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undone compass
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ooh

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maybe we'll just wait till you guys decide to do those again smug

hollow ingot
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that'll never™️ happen ablobwink

undone compass
flint meadow
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Lmao

autumn oxide
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as doc said, i pulled them directly from the og careers page

leaden island
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Taunting me moyaicry

candid isle
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I mean I still think the mapper would be cool as a bio secondary function :3

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also hi dak

hushed plume
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sad times

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imagine it gets added as a bio tracker skin or something

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💀

leaden island
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honestly I don't care as long as it works like it does in the trailer

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I think it would work fine as a passive info gathering tool, opposed to the bio's more active role

limber copper
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Was back damage a bug or a feature? It always seemed to make mechanical sense (enemies take more damage from behind), and there was the general joy of the tradeoff between a sentry that faced away from you and did less damage, and one that permanently threatened to open fire in your direction.

undone compass
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I believe the bug was that it would get a back damage multiplier much higher than it should have been. Which was for some reason related to the amount of people in the game

tough lynx
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Btw, can everybody start these cool votes? (With the automatic upvote/downvote emotes)

undone compass
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I’m not sure

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Give it a try

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It’s just “.vote” then whatever text you want

tough lynx
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Oh neat

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Short poll for the location of the logs found in the extensions:

  1. Leave logs where they are now (in the middle of the pages, depending on the expedition tier)
  2. Put extended logs in a section at the bottom of the log pages.
  3. Extra pages for extension logs (R6.0 Logs and R6.5 Logs as separate pages).
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neat, you can start votes with automatic reactions
ignores those and starts a manual one anyway

undone compass
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Personally I’m not sure if logs should be separate page or not

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Cause for this extension they are kinda their own story I think so it would make more sense to have a separate page

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But If some logs are related to the main rundown logs we’d want them on the same page

lucid patio
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There should be a wiki page about the absence of gtfo-69

hushed plume
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i agree

quasi night
undone compass
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wack

lusty haven
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Sniper sentry is basically rebalanced shotgun sentry anyway.

tough lynx
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Alright, I moved the 6.5 logs below the 6.0 logs. Let me know if you have different ideas for formatting etc. Otherwise I'm gonna move the ext logs for R4/5 in a few days as well.

flint meadow
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Right

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Wiki

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So where weapon tips something we gonna do now

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Well

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Ye

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@undone compass should I start working on weapon tips

undone compass
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yeah feel free to add any tips for guns you know about

flint meadow
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Kk

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Also for HEL gun

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Would adding the fact that certain locations are a lot more appropriate for it be a good idea

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Like floodways GENERALLY has a lot of long halls

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Compared the data center which has rooms with a lot of obstacles and corners to them reducing the utility of it’s piercing

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Technically all locations have good halls to use HEL gun but idk if adding that certain locations are even better

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Floodways generally lotta long hallways but varies

Data a lot of obstacles and curves in rooms such as D4

Mine is pretty average

Lab also has quite a lot of long halls due to general layout and the increased room size generally

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I might be wrong tho but it’s just from what ive seen

undone compass
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id just put that its good for long hallways but thats just cause i dont really know much about different environments really

flint meadow
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Okay

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Yeah makes sense just drawing from the fact that like data center has a lot of computers and server racks and all that

flint meadow
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@undone compass what you think?

undone compass
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yeah those edits look good

flint meadow
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Ngl C-foam nade kinda looks like a thumbs up

flint meadow
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Slight frustration that didn’t work

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It worked but for some reason fucked the image size on the weapons page and since all weapons on that page have been assigned same size value just decided to revert it

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Wanted to change it to try and fix the spacing in the weapon navbox. If you take a look you’ll see there’s quite a lot of spacing on the side’s and it looks quite weird

tough lynx
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now I can't unsee it thenboom

flint meadow
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Yeah ikr

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I couldve fixed it but if you look at the source code of the Weapons page you’ll see that like all the images use 330px for image size and when I changed the image it went a lot bigger weirdly enough, same thing might happen to the auto-pistol when in the NavBox so im guessing I could just resize both and fix it

flint meadow
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So should I just change it to fix that spacing but change the value on the weapon page which is currently the same as all other weapons or do I keep it?

flint meadow
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Aka weird spacing and similar page values

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Or no weird spacing different page values

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Thats about it

frail echo
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put that the hel revolver is the only main weapon

flint meadow
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@undone compass I was gonna do this right away but wanted at least one opinion on it. Removing Pros and Cons on tools such as C-foam launcher to just add tips instead

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Tips can include how to use it which is a lot clearer then Pros and Cons

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Anybody in disagreement

tough lynx
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I think removing pro&cons on tools is even better than it was for weapons, tools are pretty unique 👍

flint meadow
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Alright thats all I neededp

undone compass
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yeah what he said

flint meadow
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Yeah I was sure it was

undone compass
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only reason i didnt do it when i did weapons was cause im lazy

flint meadow
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Just wanted at least one feedback on it

flint meadow
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Done

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What do you think

tough lynx
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You can get actually still get the reinforced visual on doors with just 9 blobs. As Ray cleared up for me today, the only requirement is that the last blob fired has to land on another one that's already on the door. So for example you can make 3 blobs made up of 3 blobs each and you will get the same animation.

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If I understood that correctly
I'm positive on the 3x3 blob strat giving the animation for sure, because that's what I have been doing recently.

flint meadow
tough lynx
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Idk, I'm not super deep into C-Foam lore ^^

lusty haven
flint meadow
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Ok

lusty haven
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So, if you stack all 9 in one, it will instantly lose all foam.

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(if an enemy gets frozen).

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If you want the animation, the best set-up is 8 separate balls and then add the 9th as a stack.

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As Wes has said, you can do this in one go if you do the right amount of charge and flick correctly, but you can be methodical if you want.

weak coral
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god I was vindictive when I wrote the carbine page

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if you're going to butcher my birther page at least fix how dated it is

flint meadow
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I fixed the Birther page a long time ago

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It has everything it needs currently

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Also we refer to Birthers as Mothers these days

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Actually idk

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Havent read the actual text in a while

weak coral
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"The larger variant that appears in the final room of R3D1 "Bianhua" and R4E1 "Downwards" has a pair of large rib cages that hang from its head like horns." just replace this with a link to the pbirther page

flint meadow
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Big Mother

flint meadow
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Ill do that right now

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Maybe I should read what enemy pages contain

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Some of it is probably super outdated

flint meadow
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@weak coral done

weak coral
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👍

undone compass
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Alright so wiki stuff is kinda slow right now so probably not the best time to do this but might as well.

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New role for wiki stuff called Wiki-announcements, basically it will be a role I'll use to ping for some wiki news or for bigger stuff happening like polls or if we are discussing changing an important page. You guys can also ping me if you ever want it pinged, if you're also doing something you think is important.

If you'd like the role please ping me and I'll give it to you when I get a chance, but y'know make sure you actually want it. I'm not sure how often It'll get pinged but if you think it will get annoying then probably wait and see, you can also always dm me or something if you want it removed.

tough lynx
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@undone compass Ping 🦆

undone compass
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granted

sacred lodgeBOT
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Hello <@&966836304581132309>

undone compass
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ok sorry duck, wanted to have a ping actually here so people can see that the role has been given to them just by looking in the channel

tough lynx
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no worries ^^

hushed plume
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gib

undone compass
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gibben

vernal tangle
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also do yall still use the to do list? would like to edit without writing a bunch of new content, so having a list of things to do would be pog

tough lynx
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I think the to-do was pretty neglected for a bit ^^'
But I remember Soy saying that he wants to clean that up when he gets the chance 👀

hushed plume
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yeah i was always the one to keep it up to date i think

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and idk the new features so it’s hard to do that

autumn oxide
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gibben rolen

fierce heart
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Will there ever be plans to move from fandom to a superior wiki software (wiki.gtfo.com 👀)?

autumn oxide
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it was discussed a long time ago and the answer then was it was too much work. doc was then an unpaid intern, however lots have changed since then

undone compass
undone compass
undone compass
autumn oxide
undone compass
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givd

vernal tangle
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also give me role so i can stalk this chat more efficiently

undone compass
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k

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also appreciate the offer but probably not any faster with 2 people. But if i do think of something ill let you know

vernal tangle
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k

undone compass
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so apparently some wikis have pages for the people who work on wikis

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and also have assigned patrollers

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interesting

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also funky names

tough lynx
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How did you learn about that? Just randomly? ^^

undone compass
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yuh, just checking another wiki and saw that

tough lynx
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Ah ok

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Lets make a Soy page FingerGuns

undone compass
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might also want one for you

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mr top editor smug

tough lynx
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Only recently tho, Chase with 2 accounts isn't too far away. ^^'

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Point farming with Logs smh thenboom

undone compass
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honestly

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editing gives barely any points

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achievements are where its at

tough lynx
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I didn't even realise they give points, like the same points that are listed there

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Thought that was something sperate

undone compass
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yeah

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that was pretty much the reason i logged in every day for so long

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anyway back to the original point

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cool names

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i have no idea how to do it

tough lynx
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I wouldn't even know how to search for something like that 😄

hushed plume
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yeah we should have some patrollers

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i tried to do it by myself for a while

tough lynx
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Patrolling is basically checking every new edit and approving it?

undone compass
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yeah

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ive been doing it recently

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but not particularly consistently

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not like we have that many edits every day

tough lynx
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Shocker Alias "Ravioli" thenboom

undone compass
tough lynx
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Mostly sad I didn't come up with that

autumn oxide
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i kinda check every now and then

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i used to do that a lot more often

tough lynx
undone compass
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we also still need that cfoam tripmine render i forgot about

tough lynx
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Oh yeah

undone compass
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i wonder if artifact ones would be good too

hollow ingot
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If you can get us a list of everything you'd like then we can submit one request in to our artists and see where we can fit it in priority wise

undone compass
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hmm

tough lynx
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1. Render a duck

sacred lodgeBOT
crystal quest
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I remember that

hollow ingot
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close enough to a duck

undone compass
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thats

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an old one

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anyway for renders

tough lynx
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Hm I would assume a render of the tank would be more complicated than the c-foam tripmine?

crystal quest
undone compass
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i was thinking we ask for practically everything just to be as inconvenient as possible

crystal quest
undone compass
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ooh that would be cool to add

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old logo and everything

crystal quest
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Tbh I kinda of like this model

tough lynx
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The revo has its image already, thought other ones didnt get that

crystal quest
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There’s also a bull pup one

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Idk if it’s already been added

undone compass
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that aint the bullpup

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holy shit its the bullpup

crystal quest
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Ya

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Just with a drum and a different sight

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And ig grip

tough lynx
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thats pretty cool to see the difference between the years for the bullpup now ^^

crystal quest
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This image was posted back in 19

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I hope we see that sight again

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Actually I think that’s the heavy smg sight

tough lynx
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could be, can't really see if its open at the top

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I'm gonna add these, one sec

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Ok, do we have anything that actually needs a render like the C-foam tripmine? I guess weapons and enemies could be cool but they don't really need one.

undone compass
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oh boy

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do i have a list for you

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Consumables

C-Foam Tripmine

Main weapons

Shelling S49 Pistol
Van Auken LTC 5 SMG
TR22 Hanaway DMR
Malatack LX Assault Rifle
Buckland SBS III Sawed-off Shotgun
Accrat Golok DA Bullpup Rifle
Van Auken CAB F4 Carbine
Malatack CH 4 Burst Rifle
Bataldo Model 8 HEL Revolver
Raptus Treffen 2 Machine Pistol
Drekker Pres MOD 556 Rifle
Hanaway PSB Double Tap Rifle
Raptus Steigro Autopistol
Accrat ND6 Heavy SMG

Special weapons

Buckland S870 Shotgun
Mastaba R66 Revolver
Köning PR 11 Sniper
Techman Veruta XII Machine Gun
Malatack HXC Heavy Assault Rifle
Buckland XDIST2 Choke Mod Shotgun
Drekker INEX Drei Scattergun
Omneco EXP1 HEL Gun
Techman Klust 6 Burst Cannon
Buckland AF6 Combat Shotgun
Techman Arbalist V Machine Gun

Melee weapons

Santonian HDH Sledgehammer
Mastaba Fixed Blade Knife
Kovac Peacekeeper Bat
Maco Drillhead Spear
Maul
Sledgehammer
Gavel
Mallet

Tools

D-Tek Optron IV Bio Tracker
Stalwart G2 C-Foam Launcher
Krieger 04 Mine Deployer
Mechatronic SGB3 Burst Sentry
Rad Labs Meduza Auto Sentry
AutoTek 51 RSG Sniper Sentry
Mechatronic B5 LFR Shotgun Sentry

Characters

Woods
Dauda
Hackett
Bishop

Enemies

Striker
Big Striker
Shooter
Big Shooter
Scout
Hybrid
Charger
Big Charger
Charger Scout
Shadow
Big Shadow
Shadow Scout
Baby Striker
Flyer
Mother
Big Mother
Tank
Kraken/Boss enemy from R6D1
Spitter
Cocoon
Shocker/Big Flyer

Objective items

Personnel ID
Partial Decoder
GLP-1 Canister
HDD
OSIP Hormone
Plant Samples
Data Cube
HSU
Fog Turbine
Power Cell
Matter Wave Projector
Cargo
Neonate HSU
Cryogenic Case
Datasphere
HISEC Cargo
Key
Bulkhead Key

Artifacts

Muted Artifact
Bold Artifact
Agressive Artifact

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Obviously this is literally everything i think we could actually get a render of

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and i question if we need them all, but since we're asking we might as well ask

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i also dont know how much we want to use these since in the future it might be an issue if we dont have renders for everything new

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but eh we can worry about that later

tough lynx
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I did not expect you to have just a list ready ^^

formal mason
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Common/Uncommon/Rare artifacts... Does Muted/Bold/Aggressive refer only to the boosters?

sacred lodgeBOT
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Hello <@&966836304581132309>

undone compass
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Feel free to check the list above for stuff we might want to get renders of. Let me know if i missed something or if something should be removed

undone compass
brave citrus
tough lynx
undone compass
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maybe im wrong

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i forgor

tough lynx
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Now you made me question my sanity, I'm gonna check that

undone compass
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same lmao

formal mason
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I'd never heard that terminology before but assumed you were correct 😛

undone compass
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ok so

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i was wrong

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they are muted, bold and agressive

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i have no idea where i heard that from

tough lynx
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I haven't even left the elevator yet 😭

formal mason
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💪

undone compass
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💆

crystal quest
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Better renders of the characters will be cool to see

hollow ingot
undone compass
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yeah i can slim it down

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figured asking for pretty much everything was a bit of a stretch but you never know

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that does raise the question of what we think would be most important to get

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other than Cfoam tripmine because we already have the rest of the consumables and i want it to match

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maybe objective items but that would probably be quite a lot unless we want to leave some out

hollow ingot
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calle/i can take both lists that way we can have options

autumn oxide
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bruh i just got the ping

autumn oxide
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Definetly objective items and characters, those are the most important. I don’t think the artifacts really need a tender tbh

rare pagoda
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There are a lot though..

hushed plume
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we don’t need weapon renders right ? the game already makes them

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artifact, cfoam tripmine would be cool

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objective items

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enemies maybe ? but seems like a stretch

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would be most useful tho

autumn oxide
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yeah agreed

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weapon renders are defo lower teired

undone compass
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My picks would be cfoam mine, characters and then objectives

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Weapons we already have good pics of since there are pics actually from the game

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Enemies would be cool but eh we already have pretty good pics of em

hushed plume
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i like the ingame enemy pictures

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it’s like “look at the wild shooter in its natural habitat”

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characters … eh idk

crystal quest
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Imo for the characters it should just be their signature helmets. Woods- Falcon Hackett- Twin barrel Drum ect

undone compass
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arent there masks which are actually named after the characters?

crystal quest
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Ya. But I think they would fit better because the characters also wear them in promo art

undone compass
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fair point

crystal quest
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Woods- falcon
Dauda- unknown
Hackett- twin barrel
Bishop- Piranha

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Or hell we could see their actual faces in some promo are or video

undone compass
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for now id say we could just leave them as is

crystal quest
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Ya

undone compass
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but i would be down to change it to be something more cool lookin when we have a bit more clear view of em

crystal quest
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Do you think we could us this picture for something? May be like a banner in the character page?

undone compass
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whas dat from?

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cause those would be some pretty dank portraits

crystal quest
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From the gtfo game website. In. The prisoners tab

undone compass
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oooh

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ahh its a gif

crystal quest
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Also what about this? Form the steam page

undone compass
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i mean these are defo cool and i think we could add em to wiki

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but the fact theyre gifs means they probably wont be that high quality so making pure images of them would be kinda blury

crystal quest
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Oof

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Found this form some game news website. Just a plan image

undone compass
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ew jpeg

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well

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i mean i guess we could ask for the original image

crystal quest
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Ya. Also what about the steam trading card images?

undone compass
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are those not already on the wiki?

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holy shit if not we gotta add them

crystal quest
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Idk

undone compass
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they are some sick pics

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kinda sad that there isnt a steam background with all the characters

crystal quest
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Ya. We could possibly get more steam backgrounds

undone compass
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@brave citrus mr calle would you possibly be able to see if there is an original high quality version of this image/gif if you have the time at some point? its from the GTFO website on the prisoners tab https://gtfothegame.com/prisoners.

Think it could make for a cool pic :)

undone compass
crystal quest
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Actually do you think we could use this for woods and bishops page?

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Just crop the characters

undone compass
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could do but itd be a bit weird to have 2 pics in that style then 2 more in another style

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which is why i wish we had one for every character wEARy

crystal quest
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Ya. But there’s a chance we can get dauda and Hackett in this style

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Hopefully Soon*

brave citrus
flint meadow
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Nice

flint meadow
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@undone compass ngl I am surprised nobody calls tanks big Daddy

undone compass
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like i said

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no daddy issues for the wiki

mild hatch
flint meadow
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A sniper with one other teammate can easily deal with a tank if you have the space to switch aggro while taking cover

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Just gotta get him to turn around

hushed plume
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public static void main(String[] args) {

flint meadow
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What for

ebon ledge
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it's Java

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I think he forgot to Tab out of disc lol

flint meadow
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Yeah I know

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But

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What is it for

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Where is he using it I mean

ebon ledge
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I have no clue but I'll place my bets on a class or something

flint meadow
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Well it’s a public static so

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Probably for a page

undone compass
tough lynx
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Found a bold artifact render 🙂

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good thing I failed and named it muted instead facepalm

undone compass
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holy sheet

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where did you get that

tough lynx
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twitter, they asked for wrong answers only for what the warden is collecting ^^

crystal quest
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Oh I remember this

tough lynx
undone compass
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lit

rancid granite
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Всем привет, есть кто из Снг поиграть хочет ?
Если да пишите и добавляйтесь в друзья

quasi night
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Imagine lfg in wiki chat

sand shard
# tough lynx

😐😐 Just a cube extended outwards and a snake thingy added inside

tough lynx
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Indeed

crystal quest
nimble sierra
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Привет всем, есть кто с снг? Я тут впервые посему вопрос, а как присоединиться к лобби других, в инструкции в инете вообще не понятно что куда копировать и вставлять

undone compass
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.t lfg

sacred lodgeBOT
undone compass
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@nimble sierra youll want to use these channels to find people to play with instead :)

rare pagoda
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hey I'm not really a wiki person and I think y'all have discussed this before but i still object to hybrids being common enemies.

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By my count they aren't in A1 B1 D2 and D4.

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And more than just their actual amount of appearances. They are a more advanced enemy then the other more simpler types listed.

tough lynx
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Good point actually
and the categorisation of enemies continues

formal mason
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If on this topic I also think that "Unique enemies" is definitely a misnomer for that category. Something like uncommon would be closer to the mark

rare pagoda
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You can't just count the enemies in each level and say say whatever has the least is the rarest.

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it changes significantly rundown to rundown.

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it's different for the basic enemies because they tend to be in almost every level.

formal mason
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I know it's not perfect but unique means specifically one of a kind which is demonstrably not true for every enemy in that category

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"special" might be more appropriate if "uncommon" is too focussed on enemy frequency. Just... Not unique

undone compass
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How many times has it been asked if we should categorise by enemy type? Like striker, shooter, charger, etc

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Cause maybe we should just try different stuff at this point

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An see if something sticks

quasi night
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Ehh categories very debatable

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Chargers are strikers to me for example

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Seems like threat level or something would be most categorizable

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Which correlates with frequency

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Ask calle how they categorize for themselves

undone compass
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I mean i guess we can ask

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not sure if itll be the kind of categorisation we'll want to use, or one the devs will want us to use

quasi night
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it's just for reference

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also i was part joking

tough lynx
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https://gtfo.fandom.com/wiki/User:Infinite_duck/Sandbox
Some ideas for the front page links, mostly linking the current Rundown instead of the overall Rundown page and linking the logs (or the logs category). Only problem is that the number of links is not 6 anymore so it might look a bit worse.

undone compass
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hmm yeah the main page could use some changes

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maybe we could add some other links too

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maybe apparel, boosters and locations. So its 3 rows of 4

tough lynx
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Very good idea, although we would have to force some poor dev to create extra symbols for those Aggressive_Artifact

hushed plume
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maybe this icon

undone compass
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oooh that will be good for boosters yea

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idk what we can use for locations and apparel

hushed plume
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hmm

undone compass
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so i was thinking of:

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We change the Characters page link image to this

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Then we can use this image for apparel

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We use this one for boosters like chase suggested

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The logs image you picked is already good Duck, maybe instead of changing how to play to the health icon we could use the bulkhead terminal? But health works too tbh so dont mind

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and then finally use this one for the locations link

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That one is probably the biggest stretch. That along side the apparel one are the ones im least sure about so if anyone has a better idea then let it be known

sacred lodgeBOT
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Hello <@&966836304581132309>

undone compass
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Read le above

tough lynx
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Really like the booster and character ones; think the bulkhead icon is also a bit better than the health icon.
For locations we could go with the SMC Logo maybe but that's still not really a perfect fit https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gtfo_gamepedia_en/images/1/18/SantonianLogo.png/revision/latest?cb=20191212171222
And for tools we could use the icon from the tool refill pack (if we have that) https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/gtfo_gamepedia_en/images/e/ef/ToolRefillRender.png/revision/latest?cb=20201019041907

undone compass
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ooooooh good idea

#

for the smc logo you mean just the diamond on its self? not the text

tough lynx
#

yeah ^^

undone compass
#

that is a muy bueno idea

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just gotta bleach it i guess

#

good idea for the tool pic change though i never thought of it

tough lynx
undone compass
#

so im not actually sure if we have that tool icon, maybe im just missing it. but if we dont we can also use the booster icon for tools

tough lynx
#

Thats a good one

undone compass
#

yeah that loooks

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good

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i think

tough lynx
#

👍

hushed plume
#

SLAY

autumn oxide
#

WOOO yea those look snazzy!

undone compass
#

so after procrastinating for 6 days it took me 5 mins to make the edit

#

but it is now done

tough lynx
#

Looks very nice WoodsPraise

hushed plume
#

looks so good

#

wow

flint meadow
#

Oh okay I see

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Ye I like it

flint meadow
#

New Rundown new wiki content

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Which I am gonna be working on

#

Been making a wiki for a game my friend made

#

Ngl got no idea what im doing but im figuring it out yk

crystal quest
#

You got it. I believe in you FingerGuns

flint meadow
crystal quest
#

I left the sever for awhile then re joined

flint meadow
#

Fair

tough lynx
#

Just noticed that the dropdown "Content" menu needs to have to the new stuff that we linked ^^

undone compass
#

Oh yeah

undone compass
#

@hushed plume i forgot i dont know how to change it help

icy citrus
#

Can we pls have a wiki page for inspector81 a infamous user on the food-pic chat

undone compass
#

smug 👍

hushed plume
#

jk i am confused

hoary parcel
#

hi guys

#

i have a question

#

how can i add bot in this game

tough lynx
weak coral
#

What has been happening with the Bullrush page?

#

Has one person been removing and readding punk as an alias constantly

undone compass
#

yeah two people were going back and forth with it

modest viper
#

never heard a single person call a charger a Punk.

#

i hear a good amount of people call giant strikers Franks.

undone compass
#

huh

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i thought we had that

undone compass
#

yknow maybe we should get a proper process to make aliases

tough lynx
#

Strawpoll for every enemy

undone compass
#

you joke but honestly that isnt a bad idea

#

its hard to actually judge what is a good alias

hushed plume
#

i have an idea

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we could get a google form showing a picture of each enemy and asking people to input what they call it

hushed plume
undone compass
#

yeah thatd work

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might want to wait a bit after R7 for the hype to die down to do it

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or maybe not actually since rundown release is probably the time with the most active playerbase

hushed plume
#

we can wait a week or two

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or three

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and then if there are any new enemies we can include those

undone compass
#

true

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we should probably ask calle if hed actually be willing to post it in community news before we make it

hushed plume
#

you wanna ask him or ping him

undone compass
#

@brave citrus not right now but sometime in the future after rundown release, would you mind posting a google form about what people call enemies for us in #community-news so we can figure out what aliases to use on the wiki?

hushed plume
#

we’ll make the form of course

undone compass
#

yuh

brave citrus
#

That would be fun!

hushed plume
#

slay

flint meadow
#

Hype hype hype

tardy quiver
#

Thursday*

flint meadow
#

Same thing

tardy quiver
#

No

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scam

#

Update on thursday, I wont wait another day 😔

flint meadow
#

Exactly

tardy quiver
#

Exactly

flint meadow
#

@tough lynx ready?

tough lynx
flint meadow
#

Why?

tough lynx
#

There were things happening yesterday already

hushed plume
#

@undone compass you didn’t capitalize shotgun

undone compass
#

fuck

flint meadow
undone compass
#

ok mr lfg in gtfo chat

flint meadow
#

THAT

#

WAS AN ACCIDENT

#

i thought nobody saw that lmfao

flint meadow
#

||I refuse to call that thing the Snatcher||

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||It’s not the same thing||

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||we need another and better name for it||

#

||oh pouncer okay||

hollow ingot
#

Please don't use ||pouncer||. come up with your own unique name in the community. don't make us start naming enemies "sjfklsjfklwjrklwjrklwer"

flint meadow
hollow ingot
#

how do you think people started calling it that? they be data mining.

flint meadow
#

So far it seems like ||Snatcher is the winning name but like that names already taken unless thats actually the thing from the first trailor but you cant really reveal that||

flint meadow
undone compass
#

we'll have to see what the community calls it, hopefully they come up with their own name and dont all just use that name

flint meadow
#

Also when can we get those stats for the new guns

#

So far im hating the HC Pistol a lot

undone compass
#

i will add that the guy who made the page doesnt appear to be in the discord so no easy way to contact him about it

flint meadow
#

It’s stats might change my mind tho

undone compass
#

im not sure there is a specific time when datamining is allowed, or if we have to wait at all

flint meadow
undone compass
#

if @hollow ingot would like us to wait then im fine with that

flint meadow
#

I don’t think data mining is allowed at all actually lmao

hollow ingot
#

Maybe your community poll idea for enemy names might be best, and might be best to wait some days before creating the enemy pages.

undone compass
flint meadow
#

Is the Shocker moved out of the spoiler section btw

hollow ingot
#

I just have a personal dislike against the community using our names for enemies, as we want the community to come up with names. If we wanted to name enemies, we probably would say their names more obviously like other games do "go kill enemy x"

undone compass
#

which reminds me of something

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im kinda doubting that name has actually caught on lol

flint meadow
#

Well people probably call it Big Flyer but thats too boring and literally it’s name

undone compass
#

i dont actually know what people call it

hollow ingot
#

I've heard the new enemy called the grabber, snatcher, kidnapper. most people seem confused about it being called pouncer

flint meadow
#

Havent heard anything else

undone compass
#

yeah its kinda not got one name from what ive seen

#

everyone seems to have their own name

flint meadow
#

Yeah

undone compass
#

well no point changing it for now

flint meadow
#

I could go around when im in pubs

#

And ask

#

What people call things

undone compass
#

can wait and see how the poll goes in the future

#

nah dw

flint meadow
#

Ill do it anyways easier to get opinions that way

#

@undone compass

#

Make this but

#

Replace the text with “Shotgun Sentry?”

undone compass
#

maybe

#

but its probably less funny the third time

flint meadow
undone compass
flint meadow
#

@undone compass also do you mind if I work on the weapon stuff?

#

Ill need all the new weapon stats

undone compass
#

i mean yeah go ahead you dont need my permission lol

frozen coral
#

Any numbers for the new weapon dmg? As far as I can gather HCP (high caliber pistol) deals between 20-30 dmg base so headshots on scouts will kill.

flint meadow
#

And it one shot headshots scouts I can guaranty that

#

If it deals 20 damage just the dmg multiplier to scout head would make that damage 60 lol

narrow oyster
#

@weak coral You know how much the new precision rifle deals?

flint meadow
#

Got the weapon stats

flint meadow
#

1.3 Precision multiplier

dense finch
#

its insane

#

if the sniper and the revolver had a baby

flint meadow
#

i mean same as a shotgun

dense finch
#

this would be it

#

and it sucks

flint meadow
#

nah

dense finch
#

honestly

limpid ravine
#

We need the weapon stats stuff updated

flint meadow
#

its if the revolver and shotgun had a baby

limpid ravine
#

on the wiki

#

badly

flint meadow
#

ill do it

#

i was gonna do that in a lil bit

#

lol

limpid ravine
#

Critical Flaw with 10C is they dont give those #'s on the #patch-notes

flint meadow
#

also apprently machine gun does 8 dmg per bullet now???

dense finch
dense finch
limpid ravine
flint meadow
#

it does same damage as shotgun

flint meadow
dense finch
#

I'll recommend it to friends

flint meadow
#

lol

dense finch
#

is the precision rifle good in your guys opinion

#

I kinda hate it

flint meadow
#

yeah its good

dense finch
#

hmm

flint meadow
#

thats precision

#

ill update the wiki weapons in like 10 mins just gonna finish my expedition

dense finch
#

I dont seem to be able to use that precision damage honestly

flint meadow
#

gotta hit heads

dense finch
#

well

#

the head pops off after 1 shot

#

thats the issue

limpid ravine
weak coral
#

It's a dmr in the special weapons slot with a thermal gimmick

limpid ravine
#

and Auto trigger

dense finch
#

it's only good for minors though

#

and meatballs maybe

weak coral
#

It's for cc yeah

dense finch
#

but doesnt that make it a worse machine gun

weak coral
#

Unfortunately you're sol with bullrushers

dense finch
#

I haven't tried it on reactor levels, maybe its good on there

#

but as of rn it doesnt really have any appeal to m,e

#

just a heavy dmr that can't deal with anything above a striker

weak coral
#

There are better specials

dense finch
#

sniper was and is still my main

weak coral
#

I'm a big fan of the hc pistol

#

It's like the r3 shotgun

#

But with even more range

#

It also shreds any boss enemies

#

High recommend

limpid ravine
#

@dense finch try using sniper on B3 PE in the fog

#

that is where it's better

flint meadow
#

@limpid ravine

#

ill fix it

#

are u using the visual editor

#

or code

#

source*

limpid ravine
#

visual, i was just shuffling them down

flint meadow
#

?

limpid ravine
#

yes >->

flint meadow
limpid ravine
#

<_<

flint meadow
#

im teasin

#

its fine

limpid ravine
#

7.7

flint meadow
#

but use Source editor

#

Visual editor is weird

#

wtf did you do

#

lmao

limpid ravine
#

dragged and drop

#

that was it

flint meadow
#

cuz it fucks the code up

#

Join VC 3

limpid ravine
#

just dropped

#

😛

#

I havent done code edits in forever for wiki

#

i was being lazy

flint meadow
#

@limpid ravine I fixed it

#

next time if u wanna move code around use the Source editor trust me, ive tried before with the Visual editor and it just fucks all the code up tbh

remote yacht
#

@flint meadow new enemy is called Jerry, no questions

limpid ravine
#

now we just need to add the other guns

#

and their values

#

WHY IS THE MACHINE GUN ACTUALLY 8 DMG

flint meadow
limpid ravine
#

also is the Chokemod updated?

#

they added additional ammo to it

#

is it now just the better Shotgun default

#

=/

#

oh wait it already was

flint meadow
limpid ravine
#

delv into the code and extract for us the well of info we desire

hollow ingot
narrow oyster
hollow ingot
#

Yeah I'm not finding anywhere that it went to 8 damage for machine gun. If whoever was comparing the datablocks wants to reach out to me with more info, I'd be happy to take a second look.

#

The original damage of the Machinegun at end of R6.5: "Damage": 3.21,
Damage with R7 release: "Damage": 3.51,

#

@flint meadow

opaque mortar
#

Machinegun looks fine right now

limpid ravine
limpid ravine
#

EX:

Machine Gun Damage increased: 3.21 -> 3.51
Machine Gun Max Ammo Increased: X -> Y

SMG Range Increased: X -> Y

etc etc

#

"Slightly increased"? how much increased? what is the scale of "slightly"

#

is "slightly" like .5m? or is it 3m?

opaque mortar
#

Yea, you right. I spent a lot of time now on A1 and trying every weapon

#

Heavy AR recoil now is broken imho. Too big nerf

limpid ravine
#

"Significantly Reduced Ammo Compacity" is one magazine, so the scale of "Significant" for ammo is 1 magazine?

#

????

#

I'm fine with the Showcase'y style patch notes, but having the Detailed ones kept up with can help player base significantly track what's getting shifted in power

opaque mortar
#

Especially when we have data from previous rundown to compare

limpid ravine
#

Lets not forget there is NO Encyclopedia for what these values do

#

"Stagger Multiplier"
"Range"
"Precision Multiplier"

Explaining the features of the game of this style(Tactical Shooter) is a big must

opaque mortar
#

+1

limpid ravine
#

What is stagger? How is it triggered? How is Stagger Multiplier factored in? What does Range mean? How does it affect weapon damage? What is considered a 'Precision' damage? What part of the enemy is considered that?

#

What is considered Melee, what is considered Projectile?

opaque mortar
#

We have so much new players right now. This data will help community to grow up in numbers

limpid ravine
#

I just found out 2 weeks ago Tongues are PROJECTILE even though they aren't projectiles

#

These are critical things the game desperately needs to define

opaque mortar
#

Great. I didnt know that...

limpid ravine
#

Melee is only Charger smacks, Titan(Giant) arm swings, Father(Tank) smacks, and Hybrid Smacks

#

it is a pretty weak Booster stat now that I know tongues are considered projectiles

undone compass
#

where did you get that info?

#

cuz its wrong

#

unless it got changed this rundown i guess

opaque mortar
#

OK. Im confused rn

undone compass
#

Tongues count as melee, in regards to the melee booster resistance

limpid ravine
#

Testing the value ingame

limpid ravine
undone compass
#

yeah i guess

#

some info the devs want to keep away from people though, or at least they did im not sure if any opinions have changed

#

thats why datamining datavalues was not allowed for a while

#

if it really irks you, you can suggest they make patch notes more specific

#

if you wanna dm mod mail about it and kinda give your explanation on why you think it should be done ill pass it along to a dev

limpid ravine
#

Im fine if they wanna leave some things to "learn as you go"

But some features are just stupidly vague

#

What is range and how it affects my gun is one

hollow ingot
# limpid ravine definitive #'s make players have a solid base to reference It's the biggest iss...

As the person who writes the patch notes, I want to give detailed numbers but it's a lot harder to do that just saying "just add them".

We do multiple weapon tweak passes during a rundowns development, so trying to track across those isn't easy. And if we give numbers, I want to be sure we're giving accurate information. Not saying it won't happen in the future, maybe and hopefully it will, just don't want you to get your hopes up with any promises.

limpid ravine
#

the big thing is how game mechanics work

#

We as a player base need some kind of explanation of the mechanics

#

like Stagger, Range, and Multipliers

hollow ingot
#

I know at least from past creations part of that is by design that not everything is explained and that the players need to discover things on their own, partially for learning a difficult game. It allows the community to discern and figure things out together vs us just spoon feeding all the information. Which is also why we as devs contribute very little to the wiki itself we want you guys to own the information and update it, not us. We want you guys to work together and come up with community names for enemies, not just being lazy and relying on our internal names.

limpid ravine
#

I like "Community Driven Info" but somethings need explained

#

if the gun says "Medium Range" and the other says "Long Range" what does that mean to the new player?

#

They don't know cause it isnt explained

#

What is "Hallow Point Rounds" and what are "Tungsten Rounds" to a new player

#

They sound cool

#

but all they do is confuse

#

Game clarity is still a necessity

humble oracle
#

tungsten core bullets have higher AP

#

in-game, they stagger far more than standard bullets

#

hollow points detonate (well maybe not detonate, but they basically just do direct damage, they dont dig into anything you shoot them at) on contact rather than penetrating

#

in-game, i would assume more weakspot damage to reflect this.

#

though i admit it shouldn't take a gun-nut to tell you that, but thats just abouts the same in-game as well.

limpid ravine
#

The point is, We have "Overpenetrating Rounds" "Tungsten Rounds" and "Hollow-Point Rounds" but they are not clearly defined except maybe the first

limpid ravine
#

Overpenetrating Rounds makes sense, but Tungsten are just "Penetrating Stagger Rounds"

humble oracle
#

not neccessarily tungsten rounds themselves, tungsten core, as an alternative to steel. basically just heavier bullets

limpid ravine
#

Hallow-point is exclusivly on one gun, so why even mention it instead of just saying it has a large precision multiplier

#

It confuses newer player bases

#

to have unexplained items

humble oracle
#

honestly i really like the military lingo, but i agree, there should be some clarification. maybe a "hollow-point rounds - extra critical point damage" or something along those lines

limpid ravine
#

I have

#

already

humble oracle
#

well besides that, there is nothing that can be done

limpid ravine
#

The game needs clarity on GAME MECHANICS and weapon stats

#

I have two big gripes

#

How game mechanics work and why is it not explained, and poor definition of Projectile/Melee

frail echo
#

I think it would be nice to add the stats like a lot of the mods do

#

makes it easier to compare weapons without the ambiguity

limpid ravine
#

as @hollow ingot mentioned, I understand vast weapon tweaking and keeping track is hard, but start value(what is live) vs end value(what is being patched) is all we need

flint meadow
flint meadow
hollow ingot
#

read above where i pinged you

flint meadow
#

I was sent this for the info

hollow ingot
#

someone got something wrong

flint meadow
#

Wait….

#

Yeah

#

Default clip size 25

#

What gun has a clip of 25

humble oracle
#

r1 machinegun

#

the arbalist

flint meadow
#

A h

humble oracle
#

pre-update in r5

flint meadow
#

Ah ok

humble oracle
#

the ORIGINAL MG

flint meadow
#

Lmao

#

Yeah that….

humble oracle
#

mag size

flint meadow
#

Makes a lot more sense….

#

Like 8 damahe seemed broken

humble oracle
#

it was a woodchipper

flint meadow
#

Lol

humble oracle
#

was a fantastic gun before they made it a clone of the veruta

flint meadow
#

I prefer the Veruta ngl

#

Faster TTK

#

Well mind changing wiki info real quick would take legit 5 seconds

humble oracle
#

no it isnt. the original arbalist was like a 3 shot

#

i dont remember the fire rate being that slow that the veruta would still have a faster ttk than that

opaque mortar
#

Updated wiki is the thing I need rn 🙂

flint meadow
#

I meant R5 one

flint meadow
opaque mortar
#

Curiosity. And Im the stat man

humble oracle
#

datamining isn't allowed, so that will probably take some time until somebody does it.

#

but it isn't gonna be me

flint meadow
#

Fineeeeeeeee

#

Ill do it

humble oracle
flint meadow
#

Hm?

#

Idk man I just woke up

humble oracle
#

just walking yourself to the guillotine smh

flint meadow
#

Let me have some coffee

#

Also isnt data mined info allowed just needs to be spoilered

humble oracle
#

yes, but not dataMINING

flint meadow
#

I don’t data mine

humble oracle
#

you forgot the ing and replaced it with ed

flint meadow
#

Lol

#

What

tough lynx
#

"Data mined weapon stats, enemy health and voice lines available via in-game may be shared but keep it in gtfo-spoiler-chat. "

flint meadow
#

Yeah

#

Im saying im gonna update the wiki

tough lynx
#

no worries was posting that for Frosty ^^

flint meadow
#

Not do data mining

humble oracle
#

datamining not datamined

tough lynx
#

ah ok

flint meadow
humble oracle
humble oracle
#

you drank your coffee too late to read what you were responding to

#

lol

flint meadow
flint meadow
humble oracle
#

its a minute difference my guy

#

12:46 to 12:47

flint meadow
#

No it was a second

#

In that second time changed from 46 to 47

#

Happens

humble oracle
flint meadow
weak coral
#

datamining is allowed, i will not let my fallen wiki soldiers who have died for its implementation have their death be in vain

flint meadow
#

Wha

weak coral
#

we fought for those weapon damages

humble oracle
#

why dont you have wiki roles then

#

who is we

weak coral
#

i got banned

#

i used to be a wiki wiki wiki wiki

humble oracle
#

if you got banned how are you here now?

young elk
#

he got unbanned

weak coral
#

i got unbanned

#

i served my time

flint meadow
weak coral
#

we fought for that fact that it's a public wiki page

#

any and all information is permissable

flint meadow
#

Like we should get a clear cut wiki team

weak coral
#

even if gtfo discord mods also moderate the wiki

flint meadow
#

They don’t

#

Soy does

weak coral
#

that is a gtfo mod

flint meadow
#

Yeah

#

But he is the only one

#

Other admins on the wiki are D0c and Calle

weak coral
#

that means the public wiki is moderated by gtfo moderators

flint meadow
#

So?

weak coral
#

what?

#

what are you confused about

flint meadow
#

@ Soy#8008 are wiki’s meant to be highly public or is getting a dedicated team towards the GTFO a good idea

weak coral
#

if it wasn't public you wouldn't have been able to make the submissions you have

flint meadow
#

Because from the usual wiki workers it’s usually Infinity duck doing logs, me cleaning up NavBox’s and content pages and Chase working on bigger parts

weak coral
#

thank you

flint meadow
#

@undone compass ping fail oof

flint meadow
#

Im not saying make it private

weak coral
#

but just because you put work towards the page doesn't mean others shouldn't be able to

flint meadow
#

Im just saying we make a lil wiki group to discuss about ideas more clearly

weak coral
#

they originally had that

#

that was the wiki wiki wiki wiki role

flint meadow
#

Similar to how ive asked Calle to make announcement about changing Flyers to Floaters

weak coral
#

why would you do that

flint meadow
#

Because there was an argument between Floaters and Flyers

#

In the end Flyers won

undone compass
#

what yall yaking about

flint meadow
flint meadow
#

Like

#

Well im talking about it

#

Mainly because I love working on the wiki and Id love to see it more like idk the word

#

Wiki poles and stuff

#

To see people’s opinion on names and such

weak coral
#

you said you wanted a wiki role and to be a part of a wiki team

humble oracle
#

#gtfo-lore and #wiki-chat are generally small groups of people that do the a lot of the leg work regarding the lore. not many people are interested in these kinds of things, sadly.

flint meadow
#

No not a wiki role

undone compass
#

im in the middle of a game but ill respond to this after

flint meadow
#

Thats already a thing

weak coral
flint meadow
weak coral
#

then why did you want a wiki team role

young elk
humble oracle
#

logs are duck's thing

#

he already said that

flint meadow
#

Yeah

weak coral
#

logs are for whoever wants to submit logs

#

that's what a public wiki is

humble oracle
flint meadow
#

^

humble oracle
#

our two communities are tiny

#

you severely overestimate people interested

flint meadow
#

Literally only duck does logs

weak coral
#

this does not change the fact that it's a public wiki

humble oracle
#

wiki chat is usually like 6 people tops and gtfo-lore is like 12

flint meadow
#

^^

humble oracle
weak coral
#

what?

humble oracle
#

its all just our small groups

flint meadow
#

Again ^

young elk
#

thats not how that works

humble oracle
#

no random people are maintaining the wiki

flint meadow
#

Frosty you get what I mean right

humble oracle
#

it is literally just our two channels

young elk
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that is not the point

humble oracle
flint meadow
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Ye

weak coral
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you wouldn't be able to make changes and do what you do if it wasn't public

flint meadow
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We already have a wiki team sorta it’s always the usuals that work on the wiki rarely random people

weak coral
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just because you took the chance to do so doesn't change that

humble oracle
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it doesnt change anything

weak coral
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WHAT

humble oracle
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because nobody else does it

weak coral
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WHAT

flint meadow
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Lmao

weak coral
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are you trolling?

humble oracle
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6+0 is still 6

flint meadow
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No

unkempt osprey
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MANN! this is a good bit

humble oracle
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it sounds like you are the one trolling my guy

weak coral
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if you want more people to edit the wiki

humble oracle
weak coral
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you leave it open for people who want to potentially edit the wiki

flint meadow
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We don’t need more people thats the thing

humble oracle
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its maintained. its not a forum

flint meadow
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We already have 6 people doing all the jobs

humble oracle
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you dont need 60 people running the wiki

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why would you even want that? it'd be a mess

young elk
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would you rather only 6 people had access to be able to edit the wiki?

flint meadow
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It’s gotten to a point where I click the “random page” button to see random pages and judge if they need an update

humble oracle
young elk
humble oracle
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better than having to deal with randoms coming along and screwing up posts

flint meadow
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^

humble oracle
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because again, nobody but the wiki-chat team maintains it

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i dont even work on the wiki and i know that

flint meadow
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Facts

humble oracle
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i'm from gtfo-lore

weak coral
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that is not related to anything

young elk
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then make your own private wiki

weak coral
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you wouldn't be from gtfo lore if the wiki was private

young elk
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you can have all of the control over it you like then

flint meadow
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From what ive seen it’s me, Soy, Chasetug, Duck and a few others

humble oracle
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and we do all our own research thank you

weak coral
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what

humble oracle
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we dont need the wiki to exist. gtfo-lore does its own research

flint meadow
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Well it doesn’t really matter anyways it’s something we would have to discuss with D0c I think since he made the wiki

humble oracle
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just like they dont need us

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your post makes no sense

weak coral
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"Wikis are also not owned by their founders, nor does the founder's opinion carry more weight in disagreements than any other user's opinion"

humble oracle
weak coral
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how did you get that

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from that sentence

unkempt osprey
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wait what is ur opinion again? can u run it back?

weak coral
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there's a difference between having an opinion that the wiki should be private and actual wiki policy from fandom.com

flint meadow
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But it’s not making it private it’s making a team

humble oracle
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it doesnt have to stay a .fandom tbh though

flint meadow
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I think thats what Frosty means?

humble oracle
flint meadow
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Ye

humble oracle
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none of the random players actually help or do anything for the wiki

weak coral
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that is not true

unkempt osprey
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okay, i wanna join this public team now

humble oracle
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prove me wrong

weak coral
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read the policy

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the wiki page wouldn't be what it is today without public contributions

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INCLUDING YOURS

humble oracle
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what does that have to do with randoms helping with the wiki?

humble oracle
weak coral
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you don't deserve gratification for taking the time to edit a public wiki

humble oracle
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we do all of our research in-game

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again, we dont need the wiki in gtfo-lore

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it helps, but thats not the point

flint meadow
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The point is we arent stopping random from editing the wiki at least from my point of view, what im saying is we keep our wiki group and just compact it more so we can all share the info more clearly and work more efficiently

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Obviously randoms are still gonna edit the wiki and thats fine

humble oracle
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your arguing with someone who doesn't even have anything to do with the wiki

flint meadow
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Ik ik

weak coral
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what

humble oracle
weak coral
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that is a bold assumption

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oh my bad

flint meadow
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But I can feel you are getting heated up Frosty you should cool down a bit

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Relax

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Okay

unkempt osprey
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where is my invitation to this public group!

flint meadow
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Feel free to join

weak coral
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the original disagreement was on the inclusion of data mined information

flint meadow
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What

weak coral
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that's how it started yes

humble oracle
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literally lies

flint meadow
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Frostyyyy

humble oracle
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but okay

flint meadow
humble oracle
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ing not ed

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how many times must i say it

flint meadow
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We start off at that and then I changed subject

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I changed the subject beep

weak coral
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to if a wiki should be private

humble oracle
flint meadow
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No

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I never meant to say make it private

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I meant to say compact the wiki group

undone compass
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alright

flint meadow
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Which is worthless to discuss on here since I could just discuss it with the others

undone compass
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let me just

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catch up quick

flint meadow
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Too much info

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You want a summary?

flint meadow
weak coral
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he can read it

undone compass
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yeah im gonna read the whole thing

flint meadow
weak coral
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"datamined statistics and ingame sounds are permitted."

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you can read this from the gtfo community portal