#gtfo-spoiler-chat

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turbid cliff
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5 days with the whole business process and other shit to do*; and weekends

livid stone
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fair point, but I'm still most anxious about balance changes

novel wasp
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Wait and see.

mossy yoke
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balance as in weapon balance? we already did weapon balance tweaking

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or balance as in trying to shake up the kiting/hammer/bhopping meta's and such? that's something that will take more time as we generally don't just want to aggressively change how things currently work just to break those elements (e.g. people have said 'just make enemies faster', well, yeah that'll make kiting harder, but it changes how everything is played). We'd generally rather introduce new enemies that make it more threatening to kite, etc

mortal granite
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the bhop/hammer thing are like aggressive gameplay

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kiting gonna be a fall back point

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we just need it to be balance as a reasonable rate so we don't have to used it everytime in every level

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some of the levels in R4 are really balance out

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need to find a way to balance the surge alarm to be

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similar to s1?

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or make the scan don't go all over the place

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my brain just go auto pilot

kindred mortar
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Bhop is funny, I don't see the point in breaking it, the only thing you can do is add some new things (enemies environment conditions) that will temporarily force the player to change their pace (for example, the same zones with ||chargers|| or ||mothers||, because of which room aggregation can be expensive). And if kiting is "killed" personally, I will not mind.

mortal granite
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well

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for b hop, giant charger are a thing to stop that to happen

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any player that are bhopping will instantly stop when they see a giant charger

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they either stealth kill it

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or full blast

cold epoch
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And also, I think the balance they need to do is between having worse enemies to kite, while also avoiding making holding the point completely unbearable.

mortal granite
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we need a normal enemy that do that

cold epoch
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Chargers and Big Chargers are nice because they're different enough to warrant priority target while on defense point, but they don't come up until halfway through the missions

mortal granite
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since we don't want to swarm every level with charger

cold epoch
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Problem is that Shooters would be horrid on S1 scans if they were to be buffed

errant vigil
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No?

mortal granite
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R1 no head shooter

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let's go

errant vigil
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There’s a few good weapons that can deal with them quickly

cold epoch
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idk, it may be a skill gap between us, but the difference between the two locations for the second E1 scan makes it look like night and day

errant vigil
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The slope is what makes shooters on second s1 hard

cold epoch
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I mean, Babies could be used in the waves I guess? They're horrible to kite, but you can dispatch them quickly

mortal granite
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the thing is

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you can't see the shooter

errant vigil
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It cover their head

mortal granite
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because of the fog

errant vigil
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You shoot above where head is typically you’ll hit it

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Especially if you’re used to bio ping on them

cold epoch
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Yeah that's a good point, I never had a problem with shooters and Hybrid on B3 Overload so ya it must be that scan

kindred mortar
errant vigil
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Yea b3’s isn’t that bad because they don’t shoot form the bridge

cold epoch
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Okay, yeah,also, what kind of kite we're talking about? to be sure
Circle + Kite back far?
Because general avoiding of the tongue by using direct environment (Thinking of the D2 Class V Scan with all the way to break line of sight) shouldn't be punished imho

errant vigil
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Typically circle kite and running away from them in a curved motion is enough

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They also lag the game if there is enough of them make it extremely easy

kindred mortar
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So that the teem scan is the second penultimate or the last, depending on the alarm

errant vigil
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Taking the team scan off the first part actually makes it easier to circle kite

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You gather them up faster with less leak sadly

dreamy bramble
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yea if theres no initial the kiter can just wait outside the doors and pull all aggro

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the easiest solution would be to mix in team scans into the middle of most alarms in addition to the starting team scan

errant vigil
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And manipulate spawn moon2S

dreamy bramble
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that too

errant vigil
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It’s hard to fix especially since it’s player choice

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I’m interested in how they’ll try to fix it

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Long kite but especially circle kite take away from the difficulty in the game pretty drastically

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Same with some short range hammer kiting

dreamy bramble
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doc did just say that they'd "rather introduce new enemies that make it more threatening to kite"

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so i'm curious to see how that plays out

errant vigil
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Yea me excited WoodsPraise

kindred mortar
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5 days left before we see for ourselves

dreamy bramble
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whatever new enemies will probably hide in the c-tier

errant vigil
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I hope not

dreamy bramble
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might take me a few days to work my way down there if i'm going for pe first in each level

errant vigil
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New common would be nicer

dreamy bramble
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i'd love to see it

errant vigil
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Chargers just need to be way more apparent in c and below

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C (except for C2) and d this rundown did well with them

dreamy bramble
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and e1 immediately forgot all about them

cold epoch
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They shouldn't replace strikers though

dreamy bramble
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they don't have to

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even just a handful of them mixed in alarms can make it significantly more threatening

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a new mid-tier threat like chargers would be nice to see though

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can't just spam them on every expedition

errant vigil
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It’s like giants but a bit more common in the alarm of lower levels

pale seal
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Can i one shot melee the giants?

dreamy bramble
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with drugs

kindred mortar
pale seal
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Thanks

errant vigil
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A full charge with the syringe to the back SHOULD also work but PirateSimon

pale seal
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Im tryingnif i can do solo

errant vigil
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Charged hit to back of head will kill it, getting comfortable with it will help

mossy yoke
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All that's in the change list that we post when it goes live

scenic holly
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so they nerfin the hammer

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o no

livid stone
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oh i know its happening, im just very anxious about the actual changes, seeing as how some weapons were basically ruined

cold epoch
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Also Doc, I hope you guys enjoyed my little write up on the lore of R4 WoodsPraise

scenic holly
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with all the equipment bhopping should be louder than running

robust marsh
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||here we go again yaaay!||

cold epoch
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?

livid stone
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good luck

turbid cliff
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Make pistol great again

pseudo mantle
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People were discussing changes to kiting and such by buffing enemies or making rooms much harder, but I think those changes would be a bit silly. If nerfs to stuff like kiting or bhopping were needed, it'd be best to apply direct changes to the way they work otherwise you're making the game much more difficult for people who both use and don't use the system when the intent is simply to make the game a little less cheesable.

turbid cliff
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the problem here is that applying those direct changes impacts other shit and you get exactly what you're describing you don't want

sick hornet
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the best way to remove kiting is to add something that nerfs it

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S1 scans were great, its very tough and sometimes impossible to clutch b3 overload out with beginners, if it didnt go down those 2 s1s would be so easy

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chargers are also ok, but not the best to stop kiting, they can still be kited decently easily

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an enemy that can climb the environment and is decently fast but does little damage would be great

atomic escarp
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Does kiting actually need nerfed though? It seems like the whole point of the game is picking your fights carefully and establishing choke points.

calm vessel
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kiting can remove that

turbid cliff
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fallback != kiting kinda

pseudo mantle
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Ye I feel like kiting is just uh

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Getting better at the game

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Lmfao

calm vessel
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you could have one guy kite the whole wave while the rest of the team does scans without problem

turbid cliff
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it's just too far past that grey area where you're taking advantage of the way the game works and more towards exploits i guess

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idk how to word it properly

pseudo mantle
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At the same time though, there's a massive difference of skill with kiting

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Like, people who have 400 hours kite 300x better than someone with 100

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Why punish players for mastering the game?

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If you want a level to be hard to kite, it makes more sense to add obstacles to the game to enhance kiting's difficutly rather than directly make kiting harder

errant vigil
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I mean mastering how guns work together and the time you need to reload when an enemy staggers is better

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Running 3 zones away from the enemy is not

pseudo mantle
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Well even the in-game lore has implications that running can sometimes be better than fighting. Look at schaffer (or however you spell it)

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I don't think my mans is waging massive wars against sleepers

errant vigil
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Yea he is a coward easy moon2SH

pseudo mantle
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Lmfao

errant vigil
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left his team to run in circles for hours

pseudo mantle
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I just feel like there's a big enough difference between someone new kiting and someone with tons of experience kiting to the point that it is a skill > abusing the system

errant vigil
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the skill comes from abusing the system

atomic escarp
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Except every game ever encourages you to kite melee based enemies. That’s why games mix it up with ranged enemies.

pseudo mantle
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The skill comes from game knowledge. You know the map layout, the routes, shortcuts, etc etc. And if you get caught out, your team is now at a significant disadvantage because a teammate is far out and down

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Why punish the most dedicated players by removing a mechanic that a lot of players don't use?

robust marsh
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well...

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hmmm

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i...

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you know what im going to let this die

errant vigil
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I've seen newbies run away to a far zone

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run back close one door

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and win the run

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where it should have ended

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it's not hard

robust marsh
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@errant vigil suggest letting the topic die

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as we all know it never gets anywhere

pseudo mantle
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I'm just discussing it! :)

atomic escarp
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Its been discussed to death

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: ^ )

pseudo mantle
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Well I'm new to the conversation.

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My b tho

nocturne flax
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Explaining things to newcomers its fine

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let him inform him about it

atomic escarp
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Explaining it by saying its bad rather than how people do it and why it works seem biased

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But Idk

nocturne flax
atomic escarp
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I'm bad at discussions

nocturne flax
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Might as well tell him to not get used to it before r5 drops

robust marsh
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funny thing is that no one cares that much until its talked about LIKE JUST DON'T TALK ABOUT IT

pseudo mantle
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I'm just bored at work and wanted anything to distract me haha

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Sorry if I was ignorant at all tho

nocturne flax
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long ride on buses be like

robust marsh
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its just stupid at this point

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like let it die

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you can talk about anything else

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but don't talk about ||kiting||

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just let it go

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it can't heart you

atomic escarp
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You just can't stop passionate people from discussing it is the thing @robust marsh

errant vigil
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like how tank is the best enemy in the game

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Makes it actually a team game

nocturne flax
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❤️

atomic escarp
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Passionate

errant vigil
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I just want a big shooter to sit on me moon2SH

candid surge
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😳

turbid cliff
turbid cliff
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in many games i know tank would get shit on for using such a forced approach to bring teamplay

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and how that's bad

errant vigil
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yes

atomic escarp
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Complex cold and frigid, but scout coochie warm and cozy

turbid cliff
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idk man

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that's not the words i'd use to describe the tentacles

atomic escarp
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Epic delete moment

turbid cliff
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indeed

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the question is who yeeted

atomic escarp
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Yes

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Know whats scarier that scout tentacle? Watching all of the white dots turn red on the bio tracker

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That one spitter that you didn't expect

turbid cliff
light totem
granite scarab
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gtfo japan 😩

pliant shard
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Disappeared when we needed it most 😩

granite scarab
sterile isle
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does anyone know how many bc shots it takes to take out a tank's tumor?

mortal granite
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a burst

queen field
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Now that i think about it, do all tumors have separate HPs ?

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Like the bigger their size, the higher ?

turbid cliff
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no or not significant in my experience

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can't say i paid a lot of attention

haughty plank
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you can also use mines to kill him if you spared some

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need 7 afaik

mortal granite
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and need to place it in the correct spot

turbid cliff
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the topic isn't about how to kill him though

mortal granite
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or else you waste 7 mines

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and like storm said it isn't the right topic

cold epoch
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I think it's like the Curse rotten Greatwood in Dark Souls 3 -> Tumour damage do damage on the general healthpool I think

turbid cliff
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not sure if you mean what i think you mean but that's how all the limbs work

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they have their own hp and dealing damage to them also damages the enemy

cold epoch
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Yeah, that's what I meant

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Except tumours are the only way to deal good damage

atomic escarp
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Wait if limbs have their own hp that adds to total hp does that mean you can in theory make crawlers?

sterile isle
sterile isle
dreamy bramble
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limb breaking is just for staggering and doesn't affect the abilities of the sleepers

atomic escarp
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I see, i saw in the suggestions list where someone proposed a more noticeable stagger animation, so maybe that will happen in the future

mortal granite
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well, we did have that in R1, headless enemy go slower but was abused to shit so they removed it

dreamy bramble
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is legsy still extremely slow in r4?

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i haven't seen him around

turbid cliff
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how is stagger animation not noticeable

mortal granite
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fking tumble black flip and stuff and still not noticeable

atomic escarp
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The guy who suggested wanted a cosmetic buff added to stagger weapons because when he would ask his team if they noticed a difference they could not see one. The ideas proposed were tracer effects for stagger weapons. Personally I just want more gore like KF2.

dreamy bramble
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tbh if your team can't notice your staggering that means you probably aren't doing it very well lol

turbid cliff
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or your team just doesn't pay attention to staggering

atomic escarp
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No idea, I use a shotgun and hel revolver.

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It’s not something I notice or look for.

jolly imp
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the stagger its pretty noticeable specially in b3 overload, if you are doing it right(1-2 shots on the ones that are about to tongue/overextending into the team)

obtuse surge
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wait till you see the birther stagger

mortal granite
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A core memory

light totem
turbid cliff
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whether an enemy is close or attacking doesn't impact what's needed to stagger it

nocturne flax
atomic escarp
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Has anyone heard about the new weapons coming in run down 5?

turbid cliff
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double-tap rifle

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didn't hear about anything else

light totem
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Mhm

nocturne flax
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A lot of returning weapons :D

light totem
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Basically from what it looks like, a two round burst even worse Dmr based on the clip we got

turbid cliff
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"pre-balancing"

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only way i see it being good is as a primary focused on damage but we'll see

light totem
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Lol ye

nocturne flax
light totem
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How about no >:)

nocturne flax
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To give an inform.opinion :)

light totem
turbid cliff
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DMR's been out for a year and he doesn't have an informed opinion about it

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kekw

nocturne flax
light totem
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Lmao storm

turbid cliff
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i don't have a shrugging emote but looking at stats DMR is not bad

nocturne flax
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Stats kekw

turbid cliff
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i just never used it because i don't like being forced into sights completely

light totem
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I mean it recent stats are better

nocturne flax
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Whats the point of looking at stats when people dont know how to use the gun :^)

light totem
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Still not a precision gun like it should be but whatever

turbid cliff
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stats show you the point-and-click part of it so

light totem
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You can get hard numbers for everything

nocturne flax
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But maming stats the be all of balancing its bad when you dont take the playstyle it promotes as a consideration

light totem
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What playstyle. Nobody uses it cause it’s a trash heap of a gun

nocturne flax
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I use it

light totem
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Exactly

nocturne flax
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And i see on twitch and other players thst people are using it wrong

light totem
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Maybe you are using it wrong

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:)

nocturne flax
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Nah im good

light totem
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Uh hu

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How do you use it

turbid cliff
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who ever said stats are the be all of balancing?

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i never did but somehow people always assume whoever mentions stats means it that way

light totem
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Lol

nocturne flax
light totem
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No

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:)

nocturne flax
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Im listening to the VA video

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bruh dauda so sexy man

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dauda its my favorite character

paper beacon
robust marsh
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crimge

rain heron
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it seems that there is or there was a war. The republic forces or something from what Hackett and Bishop tell interviewed them or something similar.

turbid cliff
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something like that but who knows what scale

frail elbow
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there a more efficient way to kill daddy in e1?

atomic escarp
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Burst Cannon, Choke Mod

novel wasp
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7 mines

atomic escarp
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Communicate to your team who's he is looking at

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don't do 7 mines and cheese him

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kill him properly

frail elbow
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yeah not realistic here

novel wasp
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It is a legitimate strategy.

atomic escarp
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its a cheese

novel wasp
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So

frail elbow
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not if it spawns them every 5 mins

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lmao

novel wasp
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It works and if it works it's right

frail elbow
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i dont have 70 mines to use sorry

novel wasp
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There is no exploit, it is tactics

atomic escarp
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Anyways Moskold I'd recommend for the tank error using choke mod or burst cannon

granite scarab
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based

forest horizon
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Why would you even use mines when its legitimately easier to just shoot him normally lmao

novel wasp
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Mines are fun.

frail elbow
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cuz cheesing it when you first encounter it is easier

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but you cant do it here

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e1 is a different beast

novel wasp
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People can say cheese all they want, but I find it silly when people make a task harder than necessary.

nocturne flax
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OK ladies

atomic escarp
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@frail elbow Use communication to your team on where the tank is looking at and also use BC or Choke Mod for good damage on the tank error

nocturne flax
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for that E1 error alarm

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just use burst canon

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literally 6-8 burst to the backs kills him

frail elbow
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mkmk yeah we had a good rotation but couldnt do damage quick

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will try it

nocturne flax
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you can "mine strat" the other one at the ened

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end of discussion

craggy orbit
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The question was specifically about tanks in E1, mine cheese doesn't really work for the alarm ones yeah

atomic escarp
forest horizon
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Yeah mining the tank waves is a bad use of resources at best and a complete waste of time at worst

craggy orbit
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Yeah I know about the end one, I specified for the alarm ones

atomic escarp
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oh i misread your question nevermind

craggy orbit
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S'ok lol

novel wasp
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If the devs didn't want mines to be used they would make the enemy smart enough to not walk into them.

atomic escarp
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Mining the tank is just wasteful in general, and even then, you need to know where its good to place if you are going to do it

forest horizon
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basically

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I wouldn't call it a cheese, but its not worth doing most of the time anyway

frail elbow
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hammer still op when will they nerf????

novel wasp
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Gavel 2 stronk

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Players are cheesing every time they bonk a snoozing sleeper, this was not how the game was ment to be played.

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You are suppose to charge into a room, guns blazing. The hammer should only be used on locks because lock meters are cheats.

atomic escarp
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I shoot locks with a full mag of autopistol

granite scarab
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imagine not shooting locks

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in full rooms

atomic escarp
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But I guess to each their own

granite scarab
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roughly 7 autopistol rounds

novel wasp
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Oh snap you can shoot locks too

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Man I am a scrub for not knowing.

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Hammer is obsolete pls remove from game

granite scarab
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get pranked

atomic escarp
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Melt sleepers with melt lockers

granite scarab
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i have a brilliant idea

atomic escarp
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Big brain time

novel wasp
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Go on

granite scarab
novel wasp
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Brilliant

obtuse surge
light totem
mild sonnet
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did anyone watch the podcast and notice the depressurizer room from R3B2??

indigo lantern
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i didnt

devout river
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Yea someone posted it earlier

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If the neonate actually comes back I may cry

west crow
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the baby crusher

devout river
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The neonate deserves it

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Stupid baby making us escort it everywhere

granite scarab
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blend it

novel wasp
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neonate smoothie

mild sonnet
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they also had the room where you pick up the neonate from R2E1 🤔

mellow creek
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feels like in r5 we gona have wall crawlers

mild sonnet
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I think theres gonna be some like... psychological hazard

teal ginkgo
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I just hope there could more new regular mobs instead of only have new boss

novel wasp
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shadow shooters

robust marsh
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aka easiest enemy to deal with alone but with other things hehe nightmare go brrrr

teal ginkgo
mortal granite
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we bring schaefer there so we can depressurization him PirateSimon

turbid cliff
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It's possible they're just something we pass through too i guess

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On the way to somewhere else

mortal granite
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decoration

eternal dragon
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I hope they finally release the captain america shield to surf on enemies, the monster truck and the mapper.

mortal granite
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i will take the mapper

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and then not use it

turbid cliff
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R5a1 4 mappers

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Rest of levels 0 mappers

eternal dragon
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I just wanna surf in the complex

turbid cliff
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Go back to the past and make gtfo devs use source engine

errant vigil
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Actually fast bhop then moon2POG

turbid cliff
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Would be fun to watch the speedruns

eternal dragon
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On a surfboard?

bold widget
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Imagine if gtfo would be as fast as apex

indigo lantern
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imagine if gunhandling was as good as in apex

turbid cliff
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Never played but i doubt it'd be as good as kf2

modest aspen
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What do you expect from people who just woke up from Hydrostasis, literally woken up and given a gun

indigo lantern
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thats funny because they have infinite stamina and depending on the player they can fight their way trough hordes with their melee weapons

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running around, charging and smashing heads

maiden kindle
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i could do that as well

mortal granite
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i could do that as well if you give me whatever the hydrostatis give me.

indigo lantern
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with rundown 5 we'll learn more about the characters

mortal granite
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LORE

indigo lantern
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more lore

maiden kindle
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let's turn gtfo into rpg

west crow
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gtfo role play 😳

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I have dibs on dauda

maiden kindle
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i wanna recreate romeo and juliet in gtfo now

austere void
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DIS PLEES IS BIIIIIIIG

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WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY DID HIA?

pulsar zodiac
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THIS PLEES IS ENROMOUS!

maiden kindle
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WATCH OUT, SLEEPERS!

austere void
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CENTA MASS!

west crow
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cryostasis was remodded 😳

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let's go

maiden kindle
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po

austere void
maiden kindle
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(g)

west crow
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po

maiden kindle
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gtfo mods when

west crow
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(g)

maiden kindle
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i wanna have cloaker giant charger

pulsar zodiac
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lfg white house secret run

hoary garden
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lf3 to rob my local bank with

maiden kindle
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wait what the fuck

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there already are gtfo mods

pulsar zodiac
hoary garden
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same difference

austere void
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We don't really support modding atm. There's a modding community in our #rules that you can join if you wish to discuss those topics.

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Modding*

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Autocorrect -.-

maiden kindle
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that's pretty fucking cool as far as i can tell

austere void
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I still have to finish C3 and E1

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Tried E1 yesterday for the first time and it was actually fun

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I really enjoyed fighting the tanks

mortal granite
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fight the tank with gun: enjoyable
fight the tank with mine: smart

austere void
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Remember the good old mines with silencers? xD

mortal granite
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ye...

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hehe....

mellow creek
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fight the tank with hammer

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best way

hexed lodge
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Oh man do you think the warden will be some kind of boss fight

sick hornet
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na

hexed lodge
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Hope it's anticlimactic

granite scarab
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Based

sick hornet
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based? based on what? PirateSimon

novel wasp
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Deez nuts

granite scarab
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Deez nuts

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LMAOOOOO

novel wasp
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Nut mind

sick hornet
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youre welcome for that e🅱️ic setup

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the ol' double tap

novel wasp
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Just like muh nutz

granite scarab
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The ‘ol one two

sick hornet
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the ol' 2 for 1 special from wendys

granite scarab
#

Wendys four for four

#

😩

sick hornet
#

if we do b3 speedruns will you say "weary emoji" in the voice chat again

granite scarab
#

I’ll say weary emoji regardless

sick hornet
granite scarab
hexed lodge
maiden kindle
#

@atomic escarp

#

if i recall correctly

#

e1 has tank and big mother in final room

atomic escarp
#

No

#

Bad

#

Bad

#

Bigger

novel wasp
#

I bet ||the parasite is inside us||

pliant shard
#

Parasites were the friends we made long the way

pulsar zodiac
#

just like scouts

granite scarab
#

the parasites split up in us 😳

fierce crag
#

What image are you referring to?

forest horizon
#

im just waiting for the egg sacks already shown to have a purpose

atomic escarp
#

R3 when people thought environmental blobs did something

west crow
#

they used to indicate a mother spawn when mothers weren't just scout variants

forest horizon
#

seems like a waste for them to be in the game and not do anything

#

game needs way more environmental storytelling like that imo

light totem
#

;)

atomic escarp
granite scarab
#

a neko variant but based

novel wasp
#

based an neko pilled

light totem
#

*and

#

UwU

mellow creek
#

what if the tentacles ar actually mutated ringworms from our intestines

turbid cliff
#

No

cold epoch
#

Might be, but it's litteraly a shot in the dark considering how litttle we actually know on the sleepers

mellow creek
#

i mean..... the tentacles has teeth

cold epoch
#

Also, I reckon you mean tapeworm?
ringworm is a skin condition, not a parasitic infection

#

Tapeworms don't have any mouth

mellow creek
#

oh right...

#

idk hahahah the worm in our body

cold epoch
#

But I get what you mean, that it would have been kinda integrated or a new kind of Parasite?

#

That's an interesting thought, although for now, we know seldom, sadly :(

pulsar zodiac
#

Rebirth

nocturne flax
#

Neonate and shit

hollow socket
#

The new environment / room at 0:35 look sick !

dreamy bramble
#

all of the new rooms look great

#
  • r1 mg is back
atomic escarp
#

Let's hope you like r5

mellow creek
#

damnn that ceiling monster

#

the mission description gona be shhhh dont wake them up

dreamy bramble
#

reminds me of the eggs from alien for whatever reason

hollow socket
dreamy bramble
#

the sight

pulsar zodiac
#

the sight

dreamy bramble
#

the blue one

hollow socket
#

Ok. R1 MG was busted no ?

dreamy bramble
#

full auto dmr with 25 in mag

#

so yes

pulsar zodiac
#

prob went through some balance

dreamy bramble
#

no way its as good as r1

#

my guess is probably 1h 2b instead of 1h 1b and a ammo nerf

turbid cliff
#

looks like R1C1 ceiling growth got upgraded

#

does that have a name?

dreamy bramble
#

not that i'm aware of

obtuse surge
#

let's see if its nerfed as much as the other mg

#

so that it's actually just shit

#

and not rly hype at all

hollow socket
#

hum. the big tentacles we're seeing at 0:04, do you think it's new sleepers attack animation ?

dreamy bramble
#

i'll go in hoping for the best

mortal granite
#

oh boi

dreamy bramble
#

just a weird angle

hollow socket
#

ok, that's what I though

nocturne flax
#

Machine gun hype

#

Ok no

Machinegun un-hype

dreamy bramble
#

machinegun cautious hype

cold epoch
#

Machinegun Maybe hype?

turbid cliff
#

R1 MG

hollow socket
#

So we're seeing R1 MG, Assault Riffle, the Double tap DMR and one other gun that's not firing

flat hamlet
#

Guns are personal preference hype!

turbid cliff
#

but it looked like the firerate went way up

flat hamlet
#

If you can aim, you can use any gun, congratz.

dreamy bramble
#

it's hard to tell firerate from a trailer cause they're constantly speeding up and down

nocturne flax
#

Stagger machine gun

#

Cant wait for the weapon rebalancing

robust marsh
#

sooooo everybodys reaction to the new trailer?

dreamy bramble
#

grant us hel rounds on a machinegun you cowards

turbid cliff
#

"Developer 10 Chambers shows off all of the new content in Rundown #5"

#

ign descriptions 10/10

dreamy bramble
#

all of the new content

turbid cliff
#

yes that's the focus

robust marsh
#

i mean all the of the vid was in the new map

#

but those sleepers looking fresh tho

turbid cliff
#

the only thing that looks different is that they weren't inside each other

#

no wait that's R4 already technically

nocturne flax
#

Shadows look better

#

Theres more color

#

New environment looks amazing

turbid cliff
#

you're not chalking that up to just trailer things?

robust marsh
#

ya and the trailer was the best we had in a long time

#

enemys look better overall as well

dreamy bramble
#

it's the only one we've had in a long time lmao

robust marsh
#

we had R3 and R4 trailers (not really a trailer but ya)

nocturne flax
#

Yeah r3 trailer was kinda dookie

#

It show you everything

#

😂

#

Fucking hell man, trailer spoiled queen in the last frame

What

robust marsh
#

at least im happy there is not a lot of nonsense sneeking around in the trailer cause we all know thats not true (:::):::(:::)::(:::

#

in my opinion screams of the enemy's are better than the enemy it self when you are looking at a trailer

hollow socket
#

The trailer is really good and they didn't do an R3 trailer's woopsie.
Good Job 10C 😄

thick burrow
#

Will snatcher be the only new mob added? Or are they hiding the rest? taptap

cold epoch
#

they probably hide it

robust marsh
#

it may not the the snatcher

thick burrow
robust marsh
#

we don't know

thick burrow
#

I need answers >:0

prisma zodiac
#

Yeah they gotta hide those charger shadow scouts and shadow mothers

dreamy bramble
#

there's got to be more than 1 new enemy

robust marsh
#

the snatcher as we know moves and doesn't stick to the roof

#

soooo

modest aspen
#

Just wanna get a hold of those NEW Weapons

cold epoch
#

Wait for Two days now~ rawrchLove

robust marsh
modest aspen
#

Yes

dreamy bramble
#

r4 had 2 variants and 1 new enemy, and r5 is probably going to be larger

robust marsh
#

new mechanic is kinda being shown as well as in a bigger blood door

atomic escarp
pulsar zodiac
#

I am excited for new warden obj

kindred mortar
thick burrow
#

Have they increased the amounts of mobs too?

robust marsh
cold epoch
#

Kerse, those smug laugh scare me

thick burrow
#

To nerf kiting i suppose?

dreamy bramble
#

i think that's just trailer shenanigans

cold epoch
#

Yeah

pulsar zodiac
atomic escarp
robust marsh
#

i mean i have no control over it

cold epoch
#

You won't see the making of but behind there's Doc pulling 5 rooms to get this shot Kappa

robust marsh
#

also kerse knows whats going on for the most part so his/shes just laughing at us right now

thick burrow
#

They even triggered a scout when shooting in the trailer

#

Noobs

modest aspen
#

keke

robust marsh
#

K now you got the nickname of he

#

gj

#

:/

modest aspen
#

New machinegun? POg

robust marsh
#

no lol

#

its R1 mg

modest aspen
#

Don't know much about R1 MG

#

But hope the recoil isn't a bitch like the R4 variant

robust marsh
#

just know it was busted in R1

solemn wigeon
#

Technically it's new because it hasn't been seen before in r5 kekw

dreamy bramble
#

i remember it kicking hard but i also was on 55 fov

solemn wigeon
#

55fov slaps stop complaining :^)

modest aspen
#

Still a Windup even in R1 im assuming

dreamy bramble
#

yeah

robust marsh
solemn wigeon
#

No u

robust marsh
#

idc how or with what bullet

#

you should be shot

modest aspen
#

Forgot how FoV sliders exist

#

55 is default?

#

kek

solemn wigeon
#

They hated him because he told the truth pensivewobble

robust marsh
dreamy bramble
#

i played on 55 for r1-3 because i was too stubborn to change

thick burrow
#

fov 120

modest aspen
#

SUPER QUAKE FOV

robust marsh
#

120 fov in gtfo is mostly normal fov for most games

thick burrow
solemn wigeon
robust marsh
dreamy bramble
#

i think most games use horizontal fov instead of ver

thick burrow
#

people want to hang me because i play 120

atomic escarp
robust marsh
#

i play on 120 :/

dreamy bramble
#

so 120 in gtfo is a lot higher than 120 in destiny

thick burrow
solemn wigeon
#

120 is bad

atomic escarp
#

90 for me

nocturne flax
#

Dmr.special

thick burrow
modest aspen
#

Destiny FoV sucks

cold epoch
#

70/75 there

robust marsh
modest aspen
#

Kek

dreamy bramble
#

higher than 90 and your flashlight just looks so weird

#

i can't get into it

thick burrow
#

what'd you mean?

dreamy bramble
#

it's so small

modest aspen
#

I could change FoV but I'd rather not bc it affects how I range things

solemn wigeon
#

20 fov is the true best fov but we are all too weak to utilise it

thick burrow
modest aspen
#

POG

#

Nah it's more easier to have my view not fish eyes as possible

#

but it feels SO GOOD when you sprint with high FoV

thick burrow
#

i wish i could put it higher....

thick burrow
modest aspen
#

But then I bump into a giant when sneaking

#

It has its flaws

solemn wigeon
#

Naw high fov sucks because it doesn't make you go faster and then you feel disappointed

robust marsh
#

but your eyes don't bleed

#

:/

thick burrow
#

lower fov is just sad..

modest aspen
#

Won't expect much from a guy who's woken up in a water sleep box

thick burrow
#

everything looks so

solemn wigeon
#

My eyes bleed on high fov

thick burrow
#

blergh

solemn wigeon
#

Everything is too far away

robust marsh
#

in this game

#

it takes 10 minutes to get used to it

solemn wigeon
#

I'm eternally walking to get to my destination on 120fov

lapis loom
#

Takes the same time, you just go f a s t e r

modest aspen
#

Y'know the Relativity of Space time stuff

solemn wigeon
#

As the physicist I counterclaim

hollow socket
prisma zodiac
#

The only problem with being faster than light is that you can only live in darkness

runs at 550 fov

robust marsh
#

wrong the only problem with is that everything is slow for you meaning if you order food it takes 100 years for you to get it

solemn wigeon
#

Yes @hollow socket

mellow creek
#

feels like we are above ground for some reason l0l

#

we need vaccine

turbid cliff
#

cuz of the grass n shit on the floors?

#

also one of the ceilings looked funny

#

but probably not

forest horizon
#

does anyone actually think the r1 mg is coming back?

#

Because that seems impossible to me

hoary garden
#

maybe it comes back, but its rebalanced?

austere void
#

There's another machinegun other than the R1 one?

hoary garden
#

who can say

forest horizon
#

more like it comes back, but actually good again

hoary garden
#

the gun with the r1 mg irons has higher firerate than in r1

austere void
#

The current machinegun sounds more like a toy tbh. The recoil is ungodly and the damage seems nonexistent.

#

R1 machinegun was BAE

dreamy bramble
#

it's not going to be as good for sure, but hopefully it'll be viable at least

forest horizon
#

it really was

atomic escarp
#

@austere void there is the R1 MG and R2 one

austere void
#

Nah I was just joking haha

atomic escarp
#

oh xD

#

you sounded serious

austere void
#

Acknowledging only ONE TRUE machinegun

#

Which is the R1 one

forest horizon
#

true

pliant shard
#

The one from r1

austere void
#

Like when I hear machinegun I wanna go like god damn RAMBO

#

I wanna see the entire map being leveled before me

#

And not fire an oversized peashooter

#

That someone brought to the rundown from the Nerf store

forest horizon
#

devs be like: Alright, how can we make this gun more like a nerf gun

austere void
#

By nerfing it?

#

Get it get it

forest horizon
#

lol

austere void
#

Plz

#

Plz guys no ban

mortal granite
#

the devs must have used some camera feature

#

because all i see is 3 players

teal ginkgo
#

I just found that lol

haughty plank
#

Was just wondering

#

Why is no one talking about it xD

#

||New weapon in the trailer||

#

Is there a policy for new rundowns? Or is spoiler-chat lawfree land?

teal ginkgo
#

1

#

I guess...

haughty plank
#

well i joined in R4 so i didnt' know about the lmg :D

light totem
#

My guess. Just like the R3 one where burst rifle made an appearance

#

Never actually was in

still geyser
#

i wonder if there is an increased amount of ||birthers|| in the rundown as it's called "Rebirth"

haughty plank
#

i mean we know there will be a lot of story

still geyser
#

would be cool

#

yeah

teal ginkgo
#

lol

haughty plank
#

So I think its more about that? Rebirth of the characters? With Schaeffer n shit

hoary garden
#

im guessing cocoons that "rebirth" enemies in the rooms they're in?

#

the ones you see on the roof

#

in the trailer

haughty plank
#

ye could be

#

Like wombs where if youre underneath it drops the real new enemy? parasite

#

OR when you extract they open up? referring to the "way out wont be as easy"

still geyser
calm vessel
#

What’s R4 called?

pliant shard
#

Contact

calm vessel
#

Oh... 😂

haughty plank
#

did we hear from schaefffer in r3?

#

👀

robust marsh
#

nope

haughty plank
#

So since in the podcast they talked about the backstories being way darker than the voice actors thought - you guys think the whole schaeffer/storyline could be that important? That Contact and Rebirth referr to it?

robust marsh
#

i mean schaeffer is just a story charecter

#

not a charecter you can play as

#

woods and bishop was very dark

haughty plank
#

ya but he or we made contact in r4 kinda

robust marsh
#

at least now we can say they had some military exp

#

as 2 of our characters were in a war of some kind

haughty plank
#

soo rebirth as the storyfactor makes sense to me since they said r5 is more story driven

robust marsh
haughty plank
#

ye tru

#

guess well see^^

turbid cliff
#

GTFO has glados looking for a body

robust marsh
#

and schaeffer story line most likely ended at E1

#

sad

#

im mostly sad for gameing

#

for not makeing more concepts like glados

#

i don't think so unless he ran away and survived a tank

haughty plank
#

what happened in e1? didnt make it

robust marsh
#

in that case he was most likely a war vet

#

we hear him running away from something

#

most likely a tank

haughty plank
#

idk men but why shouldnt he be able to run away?

robust marsh
#

not saying he can't run away

#

im just saying he may be dead cause its a tank

haughty plank
#

ah

#

hm im interested how it plays out^^

atomic escarp
robust marsh
#

i mean we mostly found tanks down in there

#

:/

atomic escarp
#

Also not sure they'd introduce him just to immediately have him die

atomic escarp
robust marsh
#

we shall know in 2 days

craggy orbit
#

Recording has to have been taken before we got there

robust marsh
#

but the recording can be made a long timeago

#

and the ppl shooting may not be you

atomic escarp
#

So assuming he "just" left it which is how it come across to me, I'd guess shadows

robust marsh
#

i mean idk

#

im just saying he may be dead

#

tbh he only survived this long because i think he has a security bypass card

haughty plank
#

? he's circle kiting since last year bro :^)

atomic escarp
#

Possible but I think highly unlikely at the moment since he was just introduced. I think soonest they kill him off is R6 if at all

robust marsh
#

i mean again we don't know how the lore can go

#

i hope to see him again

#

cause i think he gives a lot of lore by just existing

haughty plank
atomic escarp
#

I'm sure we will because right now all we have in 2 audio logs from him, it just seems very unlikely that they'd kill him off so quickly. For all we know we'll join up with him & abandoned the warden, obviously wouldn't start the mission dropping down then lol.

robust marsh
#

3

atomic escarp
#

I thought there was just the one in D2 & E1 did I miss one?

robust marsh
#

i don't think we going to join him as his lucky

#

warden mostly kills off the prisoners that don't come along

craggy orbit
#

The morse code in B1 could have also been him, but we can’t really know for sure

atomic escarp
#

I don't think we will either but we don't know for sure lol.

quick dome
#

sleeper burito when

#

ludvig pls

robust marsh
#

when you die he will put one on your grave (:

craggy orbit
robust marsh
#

one in D2 surge and last in E1

atomic escarp
#

Okay so I missed the C1 then

robust marsh
#

not surprised as before ext it wasn't there

craggy orbit
#

I think it just didn’t make any noise before ext, like the other ones do

#

Pretty sure it was still actually there, but I’m not 100% on that

robust marsh
#

if it was it doesn't make sense cause all audio log terminals make noise

#

unless at first it wasn't really important to the main lore

craggy orbit
#

They might have just forgotten, who knows

robust marsh
#

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

atomic escarp
#

It'd make more sense the audio log wasn't there

craggy orbit
#

It feels weird to me that they’d add a lore log to an existing level like that, that’s all

atomic escarp
#

Were you able to get to the D2 log before hand?

robust marsh
#

it may be that another team went in after us? but that means the theory of the teams being cloned has to be correct

robust marsh
#

as i remember anyway

#

but the log wasn't

#

only the terminal

craggy orbit
#

Okay, I found a video of all audio logs that had been in the game up to that point

#

As of Dec 12, when R4ext was Dec 16

#

It has the C1 and D2 logs in it

#

That should end that bit of confusion, pffff

hollow socket
granite scarab
#

They forgot to enable the log in d2

#

Then realized and actually enabled it later on

pulsar zodiac
#

think we would get new battle theme this rundown?

turbid cliff
#

i'll tell you in 2 days

still geyser
#

would be cool

pulsar zodiac
kindred mortar
atomic escarp
cold epoch
#

Any idea on the patch size? rawrchLove

pliant shard
#

Wasn’t rundown 4 like 1gb? If reckon something in that range

atomic escarp
#

2gb max i think

#

beacuse also the new enemie and bug fix etc

mossy yoke
#

I haven't actually measured the patch size yet lol

granite scarab
#

past ones averaged like 3 for me give or take

#

id assume around the same

#

gb that is

mossy yoke
granite scarab
atomic escarp
#

All that 2.2 gigs for networking UwU

#
  • the stuff that may or may not matter, idk, I'm not a dev
#

@mossy yoke I wanna ask why you guys didn't post the trailer on the 10cc youtube channel?

vapid moon
#

you have some explaining to do d0c

mossy yoke
#

I forgot how to use youtube

atomic escarp
#

I mean... Proclaim might know how

mossy yoke
#

he forgot as well

#

we all did

pliant shard
#

verified twitch streamers

turbid cliff
#

10CC hiring youtube manager

mossy yoke
#

you didn't know rascal has a twitch?

vapid moon
lofty sun
#

I know nothing. Period.

pliant shard
buoyant pewter
#

hmmmmm

barren notch
#

Why did the trailer only show three prisoners though? Is the game too easy so they changed it from 4 to 3?

atomic escarp
#

They needed to use 1 of them to take the video most likely

barren notch
#

Ah he was the cameraman

atomic escarp
#

Well they did say that the return won't be as easy

#

Like could hatch into snatchers when the main objective is completed

craggy orbit
#

Could be snatchers, could be something new

fierce laurel
#

maybe the new tool is the camera?

sick hornet
#

||Mapper?||

fierce laurel
#

no

sick hornet
#

:(

fierce laurel
#

like a recording camera

sick hornet
#

a camera that maps with small dots?

fierce laurel
#

no just a camera

atomic escarp
#

Bio's a camera that tags

fierce laurel
#

like for vlogging

atomic escarp
#

You mean drone camera?

fierce laurel
#

no like the stuff people carry around that takes pictures

atomic escarp
#

Bluetooth go pros would be nice

#

@mossy yoke where go pro

fierce laurel
#

exactly

#

so you can tell your prisoner friends all the quality pictures you took

fierce laurel
#

I mean I doubt theres much to do when you're locked up and not going on expeditions

#

point taken

rancid basalt
forest horizon
#

might be the "double tap rifle"

#

aka dmr but bad

nocturne flax
#

How do you know its bad lmao

#

Shit didnt even came out yet

forest horizon
#

based on the leak

nocturne flax
#

Imagine judging a gun because of a 20 second leak

#

😂 😂

#

I knew it

forest horizon
#

although I guess its possible they will make it good, but somehow I doubt it

nocturne flax
#

Yeah sure

forest horizon
#

devs aren't exactly known for perfect weapon balance

nocturne flax
#

Players arent known for giving good feedback neither

forest horizon
#

I mean, it doesn't take a genius to look at weapon stats and see that some weapons are super overtuned while some are awful

#

by comparison

nocturne flax
#

Just saying if you already giving you opinion on a 20 second clip of a unrelease rundown, i cannot even beat what your opinion will be when you get your hands on it

#

Kekw

forest horizon
#

we'll see when it comes out lol

turbid cliff
#

Eat a snickers

nocturne flax
#

I like twix anyways

craggy orbit
#

I doubt the stats in a leak are final, they feel like they're more to show off concepts and such

forest horizon
#

thats true, hopefully the double tap rifle was adjusted

#

because if not it might be one of the worse guns they've ever made

nocturne flax
#

If you believe snickers its better than twix

grand elk
nocturne flax
#

You need to reevaluate your life choices

still geyser
#

how do you know? It looks fancy in the leak

nocturne flax
#

Because twix its clearly superior

forest horizon
#

lol

nocturne flax
#

Snickers are so wack

atomic escarp
#

true.

nocturne flax
#

Bullpup in r5 or we riot

forest horizon
#

this tbh

#

also burst rifle owo

nocturne flax
#

Better fix that reload speed first

#

Blink and yoy reloaded 26/27

grand elk
#

perhaps

pliant shard
#

It has the DN multiplier

grand elk
#

true

#

ridiculous multi

nocturne flax
#

You should get one

#

1 dolla

#

I think

atomic escarp
#

warden it has the DN multiplier

nocturne flax
#

DEEZ NUTS

grand elk
#

this man gone

nocturne flax
#

I got confused with damage numerator

fierce laurel
#

when is gtfo adding the 50/51 bullet reloads

#

and empty vs partially empty mags reload speed

granite token
#

I completed E1 Extreme on the last minute completions

nocturne flax
#

Congrats!

#

Now do it again PirateSimon

warm spade
#

so I'm trying to figure out what this rundown was about. I saw a lot of flesh on the walls in the C levels

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warm spade
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Thank you!

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I also saw shadows for the first time, so that's cool. And the mother seems to be more than one person fused together?

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# warm spade Thank you!

Yeah, they're pretty hard to see, but they are the most ASMR enemy you can kill. Like ghost busters. About the Mother, without any plan, you'll probably die. It seems that they are kinda fused together with tumors on the back.

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Are you new here? @warm spade

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Not new to the game, but I haven't gotten very far into the rundown until recently

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ohhh i see

warm spade
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cleared out B last week, and I'm finishing C now

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I'd like to at least try D and E before the rundown ends, just to see

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ohhh ok 🙂

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I finished E1 Extreme on the last minute

warm spade
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nice!

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but when I say I saw stuff on the walls, I mean more that I think I saw stuff glowing on the ceiling in C2

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Splitters glow

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I mean spitters

warm spade
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I don't think C2 has spitters

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no

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its on c3

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and d2

warm spade
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yeah, that's what I mean. so I'm trying to figure out what I saw in C2

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shadow scouts?

warm spade
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I don't think so

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i see

solemn wigeon
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When you say glowing

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Is it on the walls or the ceiling

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If its the ceiling stuff then we don't have a full answer and also I'm not up to date but we believe it (last time I checked) to be some sort of biomass

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it's the ceiling yeah

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Also there are spitters in c2 overload

warm spade
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also I heard that there's a boss fight in either D or E? is that true?

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yes

warm spade
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which level is the boss in? just trying to prioritize which missions I attempt

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or which levels I should watch streams or recordings of

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Technically there is a boss in C1

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d2 e1, you faced them already but it's still kinda consider "boss"

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From C And below expect a lot of "boss" fights

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C1 has the new enemy

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You can see it from the flavor text whe you click on the mission

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..what the fuck is that?!
..Holy SHIT!
>..SHOOT THE TUMORS ON THE BACK!

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...SET ALL THE MINE UP TO KILL IT! moon2SH

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how many do you need again

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8?

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cock

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Penis

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It's all frame perfect if you do less than 7 mines.

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If he doesn't run through pixel perfectly in a spot. It just won't kill him lol

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so 8 is the standard?

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8 is very common

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Or just use 20% busrt canon and kill him instantly

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are there shadow chargers?

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Not yet : ^ )

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ok ty

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@atomic escarp do you know where u first see shadows in rundown 4

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C2 OwOload when you pick up the sphere

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oof

atomic escarp
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C3 extreme class 5 alarm and the 1st zone you get the cell in

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c3 extreme is a better place to learn them

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don't have to go through haha bad rng kite alarm

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OH

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Right

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There's a few shadows in the main extreme zone in C2

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it's really two evils for most people

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a surge or infectious fog

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where do you first run into the rammars?

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technically c1 main

atomic escarp
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Rammars?

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rammar wiener in your mouth

errant vigil
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gottem

atomic escarp
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Damn

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Got me

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was a good one not gonna lie

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easy bait

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Kinda like aliqeur

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bro ztriw did u hear about the new E10 coming in the next rundown?