gtfo-spoiler-chat

[half hornet]

After that everyone was just too exhausted to attempt again.

[alpine spindle]

Did anyone bring scatter of gun

[half hornet]

Uh, no.

No one knows how to use it.

HCP, Choker, Machine Gun, Sniper Rifle (me).

[alpine spindle]

You can also do the 2 sentry + mine strat

2 burst funnel for both secondary and main

[half hornet]

Here's what i don't understand

What are you supposed to do with the deep hole

[wary olive]

foaming the stairs and funneling both sides from the top of them is a more consistent but more boring strat

[half hornet]

We tried spreading 2+2:
2 go down to get the MWP, 2 stay near the scan door to wait for them.

[alpine spindle]

Wrong choice

[half hornet]

All that happens is that the initial wave just spawns on top of the second squad's head.

[alpine spindle]

You want 3 and 1

[half hornet]

They survived it, but...

[alpine spindle]

Only 1 person needs to grab MWP

3 players on top of extract door

[wary olive]

one person needs to stay in the room between the big ass room and the scan door room

they can spawn on top of the MWP carrier otherwise

[alpine spindle]

I’ve never had the issue but yea you can play it safe like that too

Mine far door

Cfoam too if applicable

Place several mines actually

[half hornet]

Which far door? There's too many.

There is one starring at the security door and another one... I'm not sure actually dafaq do they keep breaking... The one leading the overhanging bridge, i guess?

[alpine spindle]

If you’re looking at extract door, the one to the right close

[half hornet]

what...

Okay, uh...

There's... 5 doors total in that area

[alpine spindle]

I’ve only seen them spawn 1 door

It’s the big door closest to the extract door

[half hornet]

2 leads to mother den - one to the side of security door and one on the bridge.
Then another 3 leading to the pit, including another to the side of security door, another bridge, and the sneaky small one under the bridge.

I honestly have no idea what to make of any and all of these doors. Enemies break them at random.

They seem to be fond of the one on the bridge.

[alpine spindle]

I’ve only seen them spawn the one side of security door

[half hornet]

From mother den?

[alpine spindle]

Ye

[half hornet]

Hm.

[alpine spindle]

I’m assuming you’re not funneling?

[half hornet]

I have no idea what that would mean in this context

[alpine spindle]

You’re not leaving a door open

[half hornet]

No, everything was closed except the door through which the MWP carrier has to walk through

2 guys stayed near the door, MWP carried went down and me staying in the room with him.

The initial relatively small wave spawns on top of the guy in security door zone, then the rest spawn closer to mother's den, break a door and completely fucking bumrush us

Oh and a small part of them broke off, broke the other door as well and just Hammer'n'Anvilled us.

[alpine spindle]

Would just mine doors that they usually come from then

And have turrets pre-setup

Cfoam if you have it

[half hornet]

I feel like 3 turrets might be the meta here...

[alpine spindle]

Maybe

[wary olive]

Just funnel stairs....

[half hornet]

What stairs

[alpine spindle]

Bridge door

They have a way down

[half hornet]

Hm.

Will try next time i guess

[wary olive]

Leave top two doors open and enemies spawning from both sides only have one way down

[half hornet]

Fair enough i suppose.

The problem is surviving long enough to open the door.

Also the fucking secondary tank

Like most of the level is not even that bad.

[alpine spindle]

Have you had double side spawn before?

[half hornet]

But i just don't fucking know what to do with the tank.

[alpine spindle]

I’ve only had mother den spawn but I can see double sided spawns

[wary olive]

What do you mean double side spawn?

[alpine spindle]

Both sides

[half hornet]

Shotgun sentries crap themselves on nightmares, Sniper sentries have no range to work with and just get bypassed. I don't know if 3 bursts are gonna do anything either...

[wary olive]

Yes, once mwp projector leaves the big drain room they can start spawning behind

[alpine spindle]

I guess we got lucky and had one or the other

Always from an unidirection

[half hornet]

Someone had some massive refill efficiency

We were swimming in ammo, but not health

[wary olive]

Secondary tank is solved by scattergun

[half hornet]

Pubs don't do that though.

Like how many shots is he gonna take? 4? 6?

[wary olive]

What's more important is you need to be constantly reaggroing the tank so your scattergun player can reload and finish it off without losing all his HP, someone just needs to keep shooting it non-stop while scattergun does it's thing

I think technically 3 can do it but normally 4 from my experience

[alpine spindle]

4

[half hornet]

That's on top of like 20 nightmares bumrushing you as well

[alpine spindle]

2 mags

[half hornet]

Tank is not even the problem, its the goddamn nightmares that no one can kill

[alpine spindle]

You play for scatter

Always

[winter wharf]

I think a theoretically perfect scattergun kills in 3 shots on tank

But most likely 4 shots, yea

[half hornet]

Alright, IGNORING scatter - what's the 2nd best boss killer right now?

[winter wharf]

Burst cannon probably

[half hornet]

Sniper? Prec? BC? I feel like none of them perform well enough these days.

[alpine spindle]

BC

But the drop off is insane

(Rank drop off)

[winter wharf]

It's slower than it used to be but it's still burst cannon

Precision rifle is pretty much as efficient as sniper for ammo

[half hornet]

I tried sniper and it just barely worked, but then i had almost nothing to do the entire rest of level. Had to be popping strikers across the draining room because my ammo was 60/100

[winter wharf]

I guess pump shotty exists but you're not taking that ever

[half hornet]

I kinda enjoyed it, but dear lord... x2 mag on top of this devastating reload is crap

[alpine spindle]

Yea, that’s why it’s an obsolete gun

🗿

[arctic sparrow]

Is the Veruta XII or Arbalist VII better?

[alpine spindle]

Poor sniper

[half hornet]

Alright. Bringing BC next time... AGAIN.

All my clears appear to be BC clears. Its starting to become a problem.

[alpine spindle]

They are pretty much the same but recent patch people said Arbalist got a reload cancel nerf, so Veruta is better

[winter wharf]

Can't wait for the rant on not enjoying burst cannon

[half hornet]

No, i enjoy the new one, but it really worries me that i only seem to be getting R8 clears with it.

[alpine spindle]

BC is fine I just wish they didn’t touch it cause boss killing I really liked

[half hornet]

Somehow it always end up being around for the extraction.

[winter wharf]

It's slightly sad how it took this happening for people to start using burst cannon

[arctic sparrow]

Will the developers be able to do things like buff/nerf weapons or are they done doing any "content" updates?

[half hornet]

There is hope for one more balance pass

They are aware of Sniper Rifle woes

[alpine spindle]

There is not hope

[half hornet]

So that should be fixed at the very least

[arctic sparrow]

What else do they need to change?

[winter wharf]

Yeah same void, was nice deleting 4 strikers at once or 1 burst into a giant and someone else finishes it

[alpine spindle]

I think we won’t be getting a balance change

I WISH we will

But I doubt it

[winter wharf]

And also 1 mag mom kills without many babiss

[half hornet]

Buff to all fully automatic weapons (various assault rifles in particular, all of them).
Slug shotgun.
Short rifle.
Sniper Rifle.

[alpine spindle]

They should rework short rifle

That gun is ass

[winter wharf]

Now its just kinda you mindlessly fire burst cannon in any situation and it works fine

[arctic sparrow]

I'm just wondering how much longer playerbase will be workable to find people to play with now that there will be no more levels created.

[alpine spindle]

You’re seeing it now

This is probably the exponential decay of the active players

[half hornet]

Yeah...

Which is why i need to get my clears ASAP before i'm forced to start modding just to get around

[alpine spindle]

There’s plenty of content

But

It’s the endgame

Literally

[arctic sparrow]

All games have an expiration date.

[half hornet]

This one's a short one due to how unwelcoming it is.

I did just burned 3 hours of my life for... Nothing, really.

And probably will burn 3 more.

[winter wharf]

Are you telling me that after all this happens and people tire of current version I can get of r4e1 lobbies going again (I'm not doing myself any favours with this stereotype)

[glossy crescent]

me wasting 20 hours of my life for a single GTFO level

[arctic sparrow]

Wondering how Den Of Wolves will fare.

[winter wharf]

It's already off to a bad start with the wolf imagery

Or maybe I'm projecting past experiences

[half hornet]

Wolf imagery?...

All i see is just edgier Payday masks

Did i miss something?

[glossy crescent]

furry payday?

[winter wharf]

Symbolism maybe is the better word

[arctic sparrow]

It just seems like Payday but more dystopian hi-tech future vibes.

[winter wharf]

You know, dangerous people being wolves or whatever they're going with

[half hornet]

I don't even remember that in the trailer

[winter wharf]

ITS IN THE NAME

[arctic sparrow]

One of the reasons why I stopped focusing on secondary/overload/PE clears.

[winter wharf]

DEN OF WOLVES

[half hornet]

But yes, i too find both the name and aesthetic somewhat boring and trying way too hard.

[arctic sparrow]

I wish secondary sectors had lore incentives for completing them.

[half hornet]

Achievements.

Anyway... Burst Cannon it is, but what about main...

I've also been running HELPP a lot recently. The gun's a damn carry.

Bullpup has been turned into the utter shitter again...

Although it does prove useful against 3 whole nightmares until i'm forced to reload and get demolished for it

[alpine spindle]

Use hel revo

[half hornet]

I refuse.

[alpine spindle]

Just for this level

[half hornet]

Maybe. Maybe i should try getting more familiar with double tap...

Or revert to Rifle again...

[alpine spindle]

Carbine

Damn I haven’t used carbine in a hot minute

[half hornet]

Same.

Nah, it'll probably be HEL PP again

So many times it just fucking clutches a close call.

[half hornet]

On a good note i got all D2 logs, so at least i don't have to waste time on that anymore.

I also found the gimmick with rushing the finale or waiting for things to occure naturally was a surprisingly nice attention to details from the devs.

Makes you feel bad either way too.

[royal lichen]

the rushed finale feels kinda cold tho.. "f him he served his purpose"

[frosty niche]

What's that

[livid heath]

@glossy crescent

[alpine spindle]

Hel Autopistol

[livid heath]

real code?

[last gust]

imo at 2.8s for the natural reload it's genuinely not very good

so I don't fault your refusal

[coarse echo]

why is b4 harder than e2

[deft kiln]

Because they didn’t test their launch build

[alpine spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

[deft kiln]

Calling e1 an e tier

Is a joke tbh

Not even a funny one

[alpine spindle]

I agree

It’s just a redone R5B4

[deft kiln]

Yeah one where you don’t need to interact with sleepers

Until the very end

[alpine spindle]

R8E1 easiest “E” tier

Shortest too

[livid heath]

ye

very fun to play as well

[crimson quarry]

anybody know the code to the a2 secondary?

[deft kiln]

@glossy crescent

[cosmic quail]

pable getting pinged every single time someone plays a2 sec

[livid heath]

hey

dont count on it

im also benefitting from it

[cosmic quail]

lmao

[near sky]

Should just have a bot command for it at this point.

[half hornet]

Kinda defeats the purpose of the whole shtick though, no?

Might as well delete the code fuckery and just make it a secondary thats unlocked through a weird hidden terminal. That's good enough.

[tough atlas]

Should have just had 1 code that didnt change tbh

[near sky]

I can see what they were going for. Get more people to replay R8 every week or something.

[tough atlas]

I'd use that crying whatever laughing emoji if I could

[livid heath]

So hilarious

Still waiting for your next return to geeteeffoo sleepo

[glossy crescent]

no

[glossy crescent]

Kiryu chan!

[cosmic quail]

hmm

[west crow]

Arrr faaar eeee waaaan

[olive shoal]

Arrrrrr faaaaw eeeee waaaan

[west crow]

Phantazm.

[olive shoal]

you wish

[winter wharf]

What the

[west crow]

What was that noise?

Must have been the wind..

[olive shoal]

Who’s there?

[glossy crescent]

you really love that sticker

lol

[kind swan]

Depends if you read what the sticker is titled

[summer holly]

Im missing some levels here for some reason, anybody know why?

[brisk jungle]

just keep playing

[pseudo lily]

skill issue

[silent kettle]

did you buy the dlc?

[mortal portal]

You need to own the Season pass, you also gotta unlock the D Cypher access key which can be farmed by playing R5D1 Ex with a 7% chance of obtaining it after every clear

[vocal geode]

R8E2 also has a 2.5% chance to give you the Deluxe Ultra Mega Giga Edition after triggering 10 Scouts

[mortal portal]

You can also just clear R8E2 260 times on overkill difficulty or above for a 100% chance

[obtuse surge]

????

u just like kiting

[cosmic quail]

What are words

[cosmic quail]

This can also be unlocked by reading every auto gen status log in the game

[woeful shadow]

Whats the current pw for A2?

[eternal dragon]

R025N-8IRXJ

[woeful shadow]

Danke

[eternal dragon]

bitte

[vocal geode]

why do they change the password every week anyway?

[hexed vapor]

Makes B2 more replayable.

[vocal geode]

I commend whoever goes through both main and secondary to get the code each week

and gives that info to other people

[winter wharf]

It's just cconsole

[vocal geode]

:(

dang not even putting the work in (don't blame them though)

[hexed vapor]

It's a mid secret.

I think worsened by the fact that the first half of the rundown is not very enjoyable.

[vocal geode]

I like C1's Overload

and B2's Secondary is fun

[woeful shadow]

Ayo A2 fuckin sucks

[hexed vapor]

A2 is based

[woeful shadow]

alright, secondary fuckin sucks

[prisma zodiac]

Secondary is based

main sucks

well

main is more boring than „sucks“

[kind swan]

Playing GTFO is Based ngl

[hexed vapor]

Main seemed fine when we played it.

Seemed more replayable than most of R8.

[vocal geode]

but Pablo

our beloved </3

[woeful shadow]

Pablo is cool, but secondary for A2 is torture lmao

[woeful shadow]

youre a masochist

[lyric knot]

Why are rundown 8s Alt side A and B tier levels so difficult, they are like D-tier difficulty for me.

[hexed vapor]

Same reason D1 and E1 are so easy.

[lyric knot]

Yeah the E level surprised me with how easy it was

Unlike the other E levels

I havent even unlocked R5 and R4 E yet... I can imagine those are the 2 hardest levels in the game.

[hexed vapor]

Top 3, yeah.

[lyric knot]

Have you played Rundown 8 E2 yet?

[woeful shadow]

I think the mains arent that bad but the secondary+ is rough

[hexed vapor]

I've beaten everything.

[woeful shadow]

Havent tried past A2 tho

[lyric knot]

Is E2 the same map as E1?

[nocturne flax]

have you beaten e2 yet

[lyric knot]

Everything seems to contain E2

[glossy crescent]

no

[hexed vapor]

Not really.

[glossy crescent]

its way WAY different

[hexed vapor]

Very different level.

[lyric knot]

I meant in terrms of the layout not pbjective/enemies

[nocturne flax]

everything

its different

[glossy crescent]

its different

all of it

[lyric knot]

ok

Ive been stuck on a few levels for months now and im stuck again on R8B4

[astral ferry]

gl

[lyric knot]

am i supposed to get 100% infected?

[astral ferry]

shooting is hard

[glossy crescent]

no?

[lyric knot]

i didnt see any fog repellers

[astral ferry]

more often than not you'll be at 100 infec

there's two stacks in reactor

[glossy crescent]

[lyric knot]

i meant the first scan in the first room

the one that moves

[glossy crescent]

no

theres a terminal

to lower the fog

i think the game even tells you

[nocturne flax]

gtfo players

[glossy crescent]

same thing in the 2nd moving scan

[nocturne flax]

ignoring warden stack since 2019

[deft kiln]

We can read

[glossy crescent]

cant*

[whole umbra]

woah wth

[glossy crescent]

its too much work

[glossy crescent]

but instead of 1 you need to activate 3 terminals

the fog will lower progressively

[inland island]

Outside

[whole umbra]

also yaay!!

[woeful shadow]

POV: GTFO player finally goes outside.

[cosmic quail]

cant wont whats the difference

[livid heath]

activate windows please

your microsoft is begging a new update

[bold widget]

r8b4 is not a b tier lvl

[alpine spindle]

#gtfo-spoiler-chat message

[narrow gulch]

b4 secondary harder than r2e1

[inland gorge]

how many big chargers are in this photo??

[vocal geode]

2 (maybe 3)

[inland gorge]

wrong 7

[vocal geode]

DAMN

that's a lotta BBC

[cosmic quail]

oh no

oh nooooooooo

[toxic shadow]

group just finished R8E1. How long is it possible to survive at the end?

we thought we wiped and of course ||the credits rolled||

laughed our asses off

[whole umbra]

cybercafe pc, this is just rental, not mine

[livid heath]

lol

[whole umbra]

omg, the DMR is my fav gun now

sometime i forgot i have 2 guns in this game

[half hornet]

Two. I know those guys. They always spawn like that. That particular room always has a predetermined spawn positioning.

[tough atlas]

As client, AFAIK, sometimes the warden message didnt appear on screen at all

No idea if it got ever fixed

[summer night]

@glossy crescent

[glossy crescent]

||like 4 mins max, after that 5 tanks will spawn||

[prisma zodiac]

again

and again

and again

im actualy interested in if there is a limit

theoretically there should be, if i remember right alarms usually have a spawn limit thats set incredibly high

[livid heath]

ere we go again

[glossy crescent]

time to spend all my day in R8E1

ill go to check it out

[livid heath]

nah

the correct saying is E2

[glossy crescent]

E deez nuts

[glossy crescent]

||how high are we talking?||

[prisma zodiac]

somewhere in the thousands

[tough atlas]

Isn't R7D1 snatcher alarm "just" 60-ish snatchers?

I thought that was more or less the limit considering that I think 1 snatcher counts more than 1 striker or stuff like that

[prisma zodiac]

Thats an event afaik

not an actual alarm

[royal lichen]

~19 events or so

[tough atlas]

I'd assume R8E1 just spawns Pablos at a certain point?

instead of tanks

[glossy crescent]

okay

at some point

the game says fuck off

and spawns 12 tanks at once

+some hordes of 10 small enemies

[tough atlas]

I feel like anything other than Pablos and someone's eventually going to survive it

[glossy crescent]

i want to post a screenshot

but idk if i will get banned

[tough atlas]

I dont feel like anyone cares that much at this point but it's all on your risk

[glossy crescent]

i been like 40 minutes in here

all audio is gone

LOl

[sick phoenix]

Does anyone know if there is any chance of survival on r8e1? even with cheats?

[glossy crescent]

im doing that right now

at some ppint the game starts spawning less and less tanks

and instead spawns small guys

[sick phoenix]

Got it, I guess it's just not physically possible, 12 tanks is too much

what do you think of GTFO's ending at all?

[glossy crescent]

meh

there was room for much more

but i guess its fine

[half hornet]

Yet to see E2

Feels rushed

[glossy crescent]

nvm
now the game went back to spawning 12 tanks again

[sick phoenix]

Wouldn't it be cool if there was a supposedly secret ending if by some miracle you survive this hell

I am about E1

[half hornet]

That ending felt hype and bittersweet

Although secondary was a mood killer

[sick phoenix]

The secondary assignments on the second branch were hell....

How difficult is this rundown compared to others? I haven't gone through r4 r5 and r7 yet

[half hornet]

Pretty brutal.

[glossy crescent]

first half is easy
the second is a kick to the balls

[half hornet]

Not quite cursed like R5 was, but it has its moments.

[glossy crescent]

[half hornet]

I'm stuck on D2 and it's being big cringe.

One of the hardest Ds I've ever played. Fucking looooong too.

[sick phoenix]

You're making a ventilaton extreme?

[half hornet]

Yes.

[sick phoenix]

I think the hardest part is the ventilation extreme, after that dealing with the giant mother is no big deal

[half hornet]

Same thoughts actually... And then it hits you with insane extraction.

[sick phoenix]

When scans have passed and mwp must be taken, the team holds the doors, and defenses in advance, and one carries the mwp

We got torn up in there

[royal lichen]

og r6c1 tactic top doors open

go thru bigdoor with mwp and close it

simple, ez, fun

[half hornet]

We'll see

[royal lichen]

also all cfoam down once final door pops

[half hornet]

If there will be any foam.

I'm thinking of 3 snipers.

Oh right... Scouts... No choice.

[royal lichen]

not to understate, d2 error bit was brutal, doesn't end with the 3 terminal scans .. m-mom was surprisingly easy

[sick phoenix]

By the way to pass d2 without going through all three terminals is almost equal to suicide, there comes a tank and so many nightmares

and if you go through the terminals, there's no tank and very few nightmares.

[west crow]

Where comes a tank

[sick phoenix]

?

[olive shoal]

there

[pliant shard]

where tank in d2

[sick phoenix]

to an error alarm if you don't do commands on all three terminals.

[pliant shard]

Ahhh the three terms for clearance alarm. I always do those since you always have time instead of sitting around for 5 minutes

[sick phoenix]

If you don't do that, there's a lot of nightmares. A lot of

[pliant shard]

Yeah it do be a surge wave of them

[glossy crescent]

so if you dont do the 3 terminals you get fucked

[pliant shard]

You can do it you’ll just have a lot of friends

[balmy robin]

It is funny to do it though :)

[meager dagger]

Where do you type in password from b level? is it A1 terminal somewhere?

Or you need to complete e1 first?

[kindred verge]

It’s in a2 which you unlock by completing e1

[meager dagger]

Oh

i thought you type in password on A1 and get access to A2 this way

i see

Thank you

[pliant shard]

You get access to a2 naturally. Secondary in a2 is what is locked behind a password

[meager dagger]

Got it, thanks

[late nebula]

R6BX

[chrome halo]

So in R8B1, is there a way to get into zone 136? Or is it just in permalockdown?

[half hornet]

Which one is that?

[chrome halo]

the one where you get the datacubes. there's a zone in lockdown, but we can see stuff on the bio tracker behind it

but we can't seem to find a way inside

[half hornet]

I honestly don't remember... Maybe it unlocks later, i don't remember any perma closed doors in R8.

[chrome halo]

yea we tried checking it a number of times, even after triggering the extraction scan. so if there is a way to open it we have not managed to find it just yet

[earnest crest]

No, there is no way to open it in B1

[chrome halo]

ah ok, thanks. Hmm wonder why we can see sleepers in there then

[earnest crest]

Not without cheats anyway

Keep playing, you'll find out eventually

[chrome halo]

we've gotten to ||R8E2|| but we haven't finished it yet (still figuring that level out)

[earnest crest]

oh lol

[half hornet]

I genuinely forget what B1 was about besides the horror show and that one supply room

[chrome halo]

yea we were just replaying another mission. guessing ||alt universe squad heads in there. blanking on which one that would be lol||

[inland island]

What's Nam v

[glossy crescent]

the infection

that caused everything you see in the game

[inland island]

Oh I see

It only infected the people in the facility

[glossy crescent]

no

[inland island]

So

What

[glossy crescent]

all earth is infected

[inland island]

So why are we still alive

[glossy crescent]

everytime we go into the HSU the virus dies

[inland island]

Also what's with the injection in the first of the game

[glossy crescent]

so we get infected in an expedition but at the time we go into the HSU its gone

[glossy crescent]

?

[inland island]

We get injected

When you start the game

[glossy crescent]

thats just the waking up process

[half hornet]

Its been a major plothole for a while, but there are 3 possible explanations:

1. We are.
2. We aren't because NAM-V is not nearly as bad as the game itself keep claiming it to be.
3. We get cured between missions.

[glossy crescent]

1st and 3rd one

[inland island]

Oh

[glossy crescent]

we get infected and we get cured between missions

[inland island]

Who is warden

Is he the protagonist

[glossy crescent]

an alien intelligence

[glossy crescent]

no

[inland island]

So he's sending us down these facilities to achieve what

[half hornet]

I swear you asked these questions before.

[glossy crescent]

we dont know

[inland island]

I don't remember

[glossy crescent]

but apparently its to "find a way to save humanity"

or the last bit of humanity left

[inland island]

Why does he care about humanity

[glossy crescent]

we dont know if he does

we know thats what he says to schaeffer

but in reality we never know the warden true intentions

[inland island]

Are we prisoners

[glossy crescent]

yes

technically

[half hornet]

Officially in name only

[inland island]

Slaves that are given weapons to do objective for the warden

[half hornet]

Worse than slaves - brainwashed drones.

[glossy crescent]

we cant think or act by ourselves

we just follow orders

[inland island]

Oh

[half hornet]

A top tier KSO does not asks questions, does not disobey and does not speak unless ordered to. Many a facility member has noted that they're basically robots in human skin.

[inland island]

Well it sure is fun getting cosmetics

Yes I would go to a deadly mission just for pants

[glossy crescent]

who wouldnt

a new pair of pants is worth the pain

[inland island]

Humans

We are not like most men

We are MERCENARIES

[half hornet]

Our official designation is KSO - Kovac Special Operative.
BIOCOM (AI before the Warden's injection) called us just "resource" or something similarly dehumanising.
It was Warden, specifically, who started calling us "Prisoners" because apparently we respond to orders better when he does that. One can only speculate as to why.

[glossy crescent]

well

yeah

we are just resources in the end

[inland island]

Kink?

Sorry but what

[glossy crescent]

[inland island]

I swear why would we like that

I wouldn't like that

[earnest crest]

Damn Warden, i didn't know you liked it like that

😊

[glossy crescent]

oh god

now this again

please no

[earnest crest]

lmao

[inland island]

Warden hmm

[half hornet]

Knowing character's backstories - it appears to the case that they themselves believe to be prisoners. Not literaly, but in spirit. And most importantly - they believe they deserve to be here.

[glossy crescent]

most of them did horrible stuff

[inland island]

Reminds me of wh40k tbh

[glossy crescent]

but no one deserves to go through all of this

hell in earth

[inland island]

So where are the characters from

One of them is Russian..

What about the other ones?

[half hornet]

Huh?

[inland island]

Also how many bots does the game have

And do we play as the bots

[half hornet]

Literally none of them are russian

[inland island]

What

[earnest crest]

Irish, American, Nigerian and BRI'ISH

[glossy crescent]

wait

[earnest crest]

No russian

[glossy crescent]

who is the brisih?

[earnest crest]

Bishop

[inland island]

Oh

[glossy crescent]

oh

[inland island]

Dude I loved bishop :(

[glossy crescent]

that makes sense

[half hornet]

Woods is American,
Dauda is... Nigerian?...
Hackett is Scotish,
and Bishop is British, i believe.

[glossy crescent]

Bishop sucks

[inland island]

What makes me a good Hackett??
Explosions!!!

[earnest crest]

Nah, Hackett is Irish

[inland island]

One of them sounds russian

Idk who

The accent is similar

[winter wharf]

Bishop is specifically English

[earnest crest]

Ye

[winter wharf]

and yes, Dauda is nigerian

[inland island]

Hmm

I can't believe bishop was so good at the game

[winter wharf]

bishop was a beast, he hacked into stuff, tried blackmailing someone, lived through a civil war in valencia

[inland island]

Actually

[winter wharf]

survived british cuisine

[glossy crescent]

wait

Pachi

[inland island]

Does each bot have its own abilities

[glossy crescent]

arent you from the uK?

[glossy crescent]

no

[winter wharf]

what about it

[glossy crescent]

just curious

[winter wharf]

yes I'm english with the worst voice you can ever think of

[glossy crescent]

i have heard worse

dont worry

[winter wharf]

I have heard that I am stoned, I am drunk, I am german, I am swedish, and other funny things

[inland island]

||"I'll tell you what, you fat little"||

Sometimes I don't understand British

Idk

[glossy crescent]

same

[prisma zodiac]

Pachi

you just toxic elitist

thats the reason

[glossy crescent]

btw

E1 is just an endless loop

a weird loop

E1*

holy shit i cant type correctly

[inland island]

I need drip

Is there a way to see the cosmetics of each run-down

[alpine spindle]

No, because it’s randomized

You can see the loot pool from the wiki

[inland island]

That's what I want

I'm pretty sure each rundown has its own cosmetics

Am I right

[alpine spindle]

Only the rundown mask

[inland island]

What?

[alpine spindle]

Otherwise ALT:// releases removed specific cosmetic drops

Prior to ALT:// releases you knew what you were getting. Overload/optional objectives also gave you specific cosmetics

[inland island]

Thank you

Wait a minute

Secondary missions give you more cosmetics?

[alpine spindle]

Used to

Not anymore

[inland island]

Where can you get those missing cosmetics now

[alpine spindle]

You can’t

Unless you get lucky

It’s randomized

[inland island]

I'm stupid

You're telling me

There is a chance for each account?

To get those?

Well in my game it says 5/6 for rundown 1

That means there is one rundown one cosmetic left

[alpine spindle]

You have a loot pool of around 100 cosmetics, excluding limited item/exclusive items. On the current build, for every main completion you get, you will get a random apparel

[inland island]

Oh so it's not rundown dependant

I'll just check the wiki

[alpine spindle]

The only one that is rundown dependent is the rundown mask

If you complete all main expeditions in a rundown, you’ll be granted the rundown mask

[inland island]

Ty

[runic socket]

FINALLY GOT THE ROBO ARM

If I ran out the cosmetic pool without getting the hand I would have been pissed

I can now rest, I've officially beaten GTFO

[glossy crescent]

i got a ping here

wassup

its okay if yall ping me lol

it doesnt bother me

[restive summit]

r8c1 glowsticks seem to change colours? yellow green without teleporting?

[cyan granite]

||https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198101622381/screenshot/2277197144435520308/ || just run

[vapid moon]

does anyone know how to get the "the inner" achievement?

[alpine spindle]

#gtfo-chat message

[vapid moon]

thats a dumb achievement wtf

its cool for lore purposes i guess tho

[half hornet]

You "only" need to beat R8A1 about 80 times.

[brisk jungle]

do we know if past completions count?

[tough atlas]

they dont

[brisk jungle]

but they kept count

that's bullshit

[tough atlas]

If you want an easy way just do R8A1 like... 80 times?

[brisk jungle]

thats like 20 hours of the same level

[livid heath]

eyyyy sleepo

[tough atlas]

hi

[livid heath]

E2 run again?

i wana do it with u

[tough atlas]

No thanks

[floral magnet]

what the fuck

and it happened again what

[half hornet]

Hey, that's good really.

You don't have to kill it then. Foam saved.

[royal lichen]

the best part is doing the class iv after and wonder why combat music won't end.. 🙂

[half hornet]

You don't have to wake up that room, you know.

[last gust]

you might need to in order to deal with our friend in that image above

(you want to deal with our friend in that image above, trust)

[half hornet]

Oh, is he a random spawner?

[last gust]

squiggle striker by the looks of it

[half hornet]

Well yeah, but surely he didn't spawn there from a scan

I was thinking he just slept there and got awoken somehow

[last gust]

uhh I believe the alarm door in the first zone can cause that spawn

[royal lichen]

it spawned on the alarm ye

[last gust]

this room is 2 away

[royal lichen]

the class xii (?) or class iv spawn 1 room away, the bastards.

[half hornet]

Well, thats an oversight...

[last gust]

I think you misspelt "inevitability"

[royal lichen]

we had loads of bioscan boost and actually did the longer scan, tough but doable, got to skip that hell entirely

[last gust]

ew boosters

[half hornet]

Wait what

We're talking D2 here right?

How does bioscsn speed help you exactly? Especially in

Scanning is not the problem, the fucking tank is.

[royal lichen]

if u have enough bioscan speed, u can skip the tank + scouts + blood door + downgrade to class iv business entirely, leave that door shut.

you'll be down on health, tool and ammo after, especially when they spawn on 2 sides (1 room away)

[royal lichen]

@jovial wind over here

[half hornet]

Oh, you just... You just skipped the class lowering business. Weird.

Not that weird I guess, but still...

What, does it remove tank from secondary extreme?

[jovial wind]

Welp this saves me another B2 secondary run, thanks for the PW

[half hornet]

Because if it does - that's fucking... Interesting.

[royal lichen]

theres no other reason to open that door.. we just didn't feel like trying it again and again, so stocked up on bio-s and went bare & raw & un-lubricated

[pliant shard]

Are you clearing all of that room with the lowering terminal command?

[royal lichen]

.. twice actually, completed the second time

[pliant shard]

You can stealth that section by opening blood door running in and hammering. Just gotta be careful a hybrid doesn’t run out too far

[half hornet]

If only that level wasn't taking 2 hours

[royal lichen]

that blood door to the downgrade terminal will wake up everything, u can't run out +1 room fast enough

[half hornet]

My squads just do the pothole strats.

[royal lichen]

or, u can run in 😄 .. ..

[half hornet]

You can't? My squads did it every time

3 people just go down the hole somewhere and 1 guy pulls and sprints.

Worked every time.

[jovial wind]

can't you also shoot at the tank from two rooms away and pull it out first/alone?

[half hornet]

Room doesn't care and we just melee them as they drop down the ladder

Almost feels intentional.

[pliant shard]

You run in, they scream in blood door room, everything stays quiet.

[pliant shard]

#gtfo-media message

Or 19 minutes 👀

Quick in and out

[half hornet]

Yeah, yeah, good players are good what else is new.

Next you tell me sun is hot

[pliant shard]

Acktually… 🤓

The sun is one of the cooler things in the universe

[royal lichen]

thanks bigdub, that's actually something i've never done or seen done .. 👍

[pliant shard]

We taking big dubs today. For real give the stealth blood door strat a try and it can save you a ton of time and ammo for extreme. Better doing class 4 than a class 12 even with bio scan speed boosters

[half hornet]

I'm surprised the hole strat doesn't work for you

Either way the 2 big parts that bother me is secondary tank and final extraction bullshit.

I guess I could try skipping the tank, but I can't imagine dealing with infection for the rest of the level.

[royal lichen]

yeah secondary be horrible.. final extraction is piss easy once u remember ogr6c1

[pliant shard]

What guns do you take for the level to deal with tank? Also how do you try and fight him?

[royal lichen]

that static + traveling scan business was worse than the ending frankly, that t-scan passed right thru sentries and friendly fire from the middle peeps

[pliant shard]

Also do you set up for extraction before pulling MWP?

[pliant shard]

Yeah when the traveling scan swings around, it gets quite hectic. If that’s a bottleneck for runs you can try to just have all 4 do the middle scan first, wait for the big wave (as it looks to be scripted to come at a specific time) and then once big scan is done, finish the t scan

Lets you avoid the friendly fire while having an easier t scan

[half hornet]

I think this wasn't the issue be cause we had HEL sentries lol, so they didn't damage us at all.

Now that you mention I'm suddenly worried about bringing a sniper one...

[royal lichen]

said bioscan boost helped with t-scan too, bruh + 2bots did the middle bit and i ran around boosted

funny btw, a bot cannot be told to pickup mwp even after the vogen comms.

[half hornet]

As for the tank: first time it was a PR stacked up +spec dmg boosters. Didn't work.
The tank is not an issue - the 20 fucking nightmares bumrushing your ass charger style is. They just surround us and down we go, we can't kill them quick enough.
I can hear Black Dragon laughing in the distance...

Second time I brought sniper Rifle and SOMEHOW we survived, first try reached mother, wiped 1 time with her, then another 2 times trying to do the extraction and then we had to quit because its been 3 hours and half the squad needed to go to sleep for work.

To cut your losses when you're literally in the extraction scan already is such a GTFO thing to do.

[royal lichen]

extraction: before + static + t-scan, open all zone 44 doors. all weakdoors must survive.

[half hornet]

Nerfed sniper Rifle wasn't helping either, of course

[royal lichen]

after static + t-scan, close zone 44 right-side bottom doors. leave top doors and left-side 2 doors open.

[half hornet]

I don't remember zone numbers period, only descriptors

[royal lichen]

just before pickup mwp: sentries bottom of right-side stairs, 3 shooters too, standing behind sentries..

one gets the mwp, walks out, turns south and goes to wide weakdoor (closed) .. .. opens it, everyone runs out, closes the door .. mwp guy drops mwp at scan and closes the bottom left door

[half hornet]

Bottom of rihg tof what

[royal lichen]

then u scan the door and all enemies only come from the top doors north of u, and down the narrow staircase, og r6c1 style.

open extract door, lay down all the cfoam u might have left, shoot gun, hi5s, tears of joy

on mwp fetch, the ppl standing in the right side of z44 push all enemy spawns 2 rooms left

[half hornet]

Oh... I get it...

[royal lichen]

u just have to open that southern weakdoor and close it when all thru it

then close that south-western wide weakdoor too and a funnel is born

[half hornet]

I'm not sure people can reach those small doors and survive

[royal lichen]

if some of those doors are closed and enemies spawn next to them, bye bye door. bye bye funnel.

u can close them before mwp is touched

[half hornet]

Isn't just leaving bridge gates enough?

[royal lichen]

before mwp, close these

after mwp, open and close arrow, run to close circled

... result for extraction

[half hornet]

Closing the door might be a killer...

[royal lichen]

with any luck most of the enemies are u-turning on the right side, going up the stairs

[half hornet]

What's the best gun against nightmares right now?

[royal lichen]

then cfoam can shoot foam at that narrow stairs bit, last picture arrow

anything that's good against chargers should be good against them too.. shotguns? helgun? machineguns both of them.. dunno

[verbal ether]

hel rifle ?

[half hornet]

What's their stats are anyway

They are clearly build around the tumor gimmick but I don't know what happens when I don't shoot the tumor

(my hit marksrs are off)

[royal lichen]

34? hp.. charger-like when not tumor-

[pliant shard]

Hel gun is good, shotgun, choke mod. All pretty much 1 shot nightmares.

[half hornet]

Alright, checked wiki. 37 HP, apparently. HEL Rifle BTFOd

[pliant shard]

It’s like hitting body on a striker vs head. Same thing with the tumor. Does extra dmg but you still deal dmg if you don’t hit tumor

[half hornet]

Damn, PR takes 2 shots too. Cringe.

Why did it had to be 37???

Burst Cannon new meta I guess...

Wonder if there's any point stacking spec damage on it

[livid heath]

@royal lichen you ever get that reactor stuff

where the wave

spawns after the whole test

making it imposibble to even

move for codes

[pallid swallow]

The only breakpoint is 30 dmg which is 37%

[half hornet]

Hm.

And what exactly does it breaks? Oneshoting chargers?

[pallid swallow]

One shot all small enemies
Kill all giant enemies in one burst to the back + nightmare scouts

[royal lichen]

definitely. r2d2. go for code entry, 3 hybrids just reach the reactor room.

[frosty niche]

Burst Cannon on back already does like 132 damage though

[livid heath]

yep

[frosty niche]

22x6x2

[livid heath]

happens to me and my team

for the whole FUCKING GAME

FUCK I HATE IT WHEN A FUCKING SHOOTER JUST SPAWNS IN THIN AIR WHERE IM CLEARING 2 SCOUTS

[royal lichen]

someone said if u hold in the reactor it doesn't happen, or even at the eastern bridge.. we held 1 room north of reactor and had the funkiest spawns period

[half hornet]

Don't they only spawn on host?

[livid heath]

nope

im host

and they spawn both on the team

but 60% of the number is on me

[boreal tendon]

reactor spawns are trash

hold in reactor

[royal lichen]

r2d2 we took a penalty round while deep south.. but the wave actually spawned more than 2 rooms south from us. felt like "as south as they can". funky.

[livid heath]

yeah

next time

ill just go alone lol

[boreal tendon]

won't matter

if you don't finish off the wave enemies they can spawn in there

[livid heath]

true

just gotta reset a 30s code

[prisma zodiac]

Hel rifle (specifically great with hel revo)

Then hel gun/choke mod/shotgun/high cal

[pseudo lily]

i like hel shotgun on them

[half hornet]

No time to reload...

[kind swan]

I've just grown to want to just riddle them with bullets.

reloads Veruta with religious intent

[royal lichen]

ye olde painless, sing to us! brrrr

[restive summit]

what is chimp theory

[half hornet]

A lore-mocking meme that's been pestering #gtfo-lore for a while until they overextended their hand and got banned from that channel.
You can still find them - they have the "NLO" role/tag.

[restive summit]

Huh
is it just sleepers are monkeys, or what is it

[half hornet]

I don't even remember at this point... Everyone was monke. Because monke funny.

[restive summit]

yeah fair

we're doing r8c1 rn and im still praying we see klaas again

[half hornet]

You will

[vocal geode]

"Nobody calls themselves a fucking hacker"

[restive summit]

yeah 😭 hes too real

[astral ferry]

what ever happened to henrikkson after r8

[vocal geode]

||it's implied he got killed by Schaeffer at some point||

[alpine spindle]

^ yea pretty sure it was a voice line, where he talked to the team and || Schaffer asked what he was doing ||, that level

My boi henrikkson

[astral ferry]

wtf my schaeffer x henrikkson ship

[half hornet]

"No need to talk to them"

and we never hear from him again

Very abrupt

My man got wasted as a character

Not even a complimentary corpse

[olive shoal]

He also mentions like “what’s done is done” in reference to henriksson on b3

Cause he calls for him and is like oh wait

[half hornet]

Yeah, that's what i was about to say.

That's not... An appropriate reaction.

And overall EXCEPTIONALLY rushed plot wise

They didn't had an altercation or anything

[alpine spindle]

JisH is going to be very upset

[kind swan]

Wtf. My Schaeffer x Schaeffer ship

Smfh

[deft kiln]

Henrikkson was used voxy. Every boys dream

[restive summit]

just finished r8d1. ||that voicecom at the end saying schaeffer is with the other team, and seeing another team dead? after he said dont trust it / why dont they just talk to you via hearsay is sus ||

[half hornet]

Yeah

Not convincing at all

I guess not like they have a choice

[restive summit]

finished r8e1

[royal lichen]

"we bleed together.. one last time.." .. dauda went all lord of the rings'y * snif *

[restive summit]

i could hardly hear them over the ||tanks|| spawning tbh

subtitles still run too fast :x

was able to make out bishop though

[royal lichen]

hee we scooted to the cheesy scooting place and watched the chaos below 😄

[restive summit]

my group assumed itd be super tough so we just dipped in to see what it was like, so didnt use boosters

:)

[royal lichen]

awesome!

[restive summit]

was planning on taking machinegun if we died though

but holy shit the mindfuckery

[royal lichen]

u just wait till u see <predator 2> thi otha side

[kind surge]

Just you wait, now you've unlocked the second half of r8!

It only gets more mindfucky

[restive summit]

I'm assuming ||a2 is us now draining the tanks that schaeffer said "must be empty" in d1?||

was kinda hoping to see that ||"big never before seen biomass" that connor bloke spoke of in a log that they were gonna release from wherever the inner was.||

[kind surge]

It's different... you aren't playing the alt//team. You are back to the OGs and our magnificent maniac schaeffer

[restive summit]

ooh

[royal lichen]

in the words of the patron saint of cursing, samuel L jackson (long kiss goodnight 1997) .. "when u make an assumption, u make an ass out of u and mption".

just play on, it's gonna be wild 🙂

[restive summit]

yeah i just looked at r8a2's intel

[kind surge]

(Also important to note that will make sense later, the second half of r8 takes place at the same time as the first.)

[royal lichen]

"this is schaeffer. i'm with the other team now.." .. * shivers *

[restive summit]

Ah, so A1 and A2 run in parallel, B1 and B3?

[kind surge]

Yes

Etc etc all the way to e1 and e2

[royal lichen]

there's slight overlap / underlap, d2 ending is actually e1 beginning etc

[restive summit]

We were so convinced that the voicecom from the other team we were helping were traps/tricks alongside schaeffer saying "dont trust it"

so so weird to then see him go "lolol bye"

[royal lichen]

.... u just wait. the answers will come.

[restive summit]

still need to find my boy klaas

[royal lichen]

damn i absolutely adore r8. duality is a stroke of genius for naming a segment of game.

[restive summit]

ikr

we just all went "ohhh" in voice

alongside ||seeing 4? tanks spawn and then asking "oh are we meant to die?"||

[solemn wigeon]

Not quite

D2 ending is the same as d1 ending

[royal lichen]

e1 starts with eery klaxon and "nuclear meltdown is taking place" .. exactly as d2 ending after spoilery spoil-city spoiled-brat tavaritsh spoilevich ?

[solemn wigeon]

Could've sworn they are the same

D1 starts with the temperature deviation warning and ends with the nuclear meltdown warning

[royal lichen]

u might be right, i stand corrected.. just got a gut-feeling like "oh boy now it started"

[solemn wigeon]

Yeah d1 and d2 end with "Warning. A nuclear emergency is occuring. Please evacuate immediately. This is not a drill"
And e1 starts with "warning. Containment vessel breached. A nuclear meltdown is in progress"

[warped canopy]

which run down si this

[royal lichen]

r8, the last one

[livid heath]

R8

[warped canopy]

sounds lit

[livid heath]

it really is

[warped canopy]

ive yet to get past a b mission but i touched r8c1 for the link one and got boned

we didnt link the ternminal

it was great

[livid heath]

dont do R8 yet

just finish up all the others

[warped canopy]

do it all in order

r1 r2 r3 etc

[glossy crescent]

you can start with R6

[warped canopy]

word

ive been bouncing around just getting people used to the game

[livid heath]

ayo?

tour guide

[warped canopy]

hell yeah

gotta collect the drip

[toxic shadow]

with as little spoilers as possible, can anyone nudge me in the right direction to access R8A2 secondary?

[deft kiln]

In another r8 level you have already completed

[toxic shadow]

oh my god awesome

OK thanks 🙂

[jaunty ferry]

R8A2 code?

[late nebula]

@glossy crescent

[cosmic quail]

how many times has pable been pinged for this now

lmao

[half hornet]

Funnily enough exact same scenario took place for the lads i did it with.

R8E1 confirmed the easiest E. Except for the part where you can't survive.

[cosmic quail]

getting completion its easiest

its like a c tier

:P

[half hornet]

More like its condensed

What's the speedrun on that? 5 minutes? 10?

[cosmic quail]

jesus

[half hornet]

But you don't get to relax for a damn second

[cosmic quail]

idt its 5 mins

cause

it takes a while for the door in the room with multiple levels to open

its probably like 15-17 mins or smth

[last gust]

r8e1? comparable to the average D tier I'd say

[cosmic quail]

hm

[half hornet]

That's more fair, yeah

[cosmic quail]

my difficulty assessment is really bad

:P

[last gust]

mind I've only done it duo, so I could be off

feels like low-end E duo imo

[cosmic quail]

it just seemed really easy

:P

[half hornet]

It isn't.

Ammo too damn sparse.

[cosmic quail]

i did it on like the first or second day

[cosmic quail]

bring mines

[last gust]

no foam, duo ammo

[half hornet]

Although i think my squad missed an ammopack somewhere on the path... We picked it up when backpedalling for secondary.

So that could be the issue.

[cosmic quail]

just do sec first

:P

[half hornet]

Maybe next-next year.

[cosmic quail]

lmao

[last gust]

oh I'm including secondary in my assessment btw

I don't actually know what it's like to play main only

[half hornet]

Exact same really. Just with shadows i guess.

[cosmic quail]

main only is easy af

i dont think there are even charger giants

its so easy

[half hornet]

I don't know if waves stack or get replaced.

[cosmic quail]

:P

do chargers still spawn main only?

idr

[half hornet]

I'm not sure. I think i saw a couple?

[last gust]

lol getting rolled by that bbc while trying to melt a lock in key zone is great

[half hornet]

Plenty of nightmares though, and they're basically chargers anyway.

[cosmic quail]

this is why we bring scatter

[inland island]

Robert and peter

[cosmic quail]

:P

[cosmic quail]

only at the end

its hard to wipe there

• checkpoint

although my experience may be biased

[inland island]

That gun is stupid

[cosmic quail]

i was playing with some...

interesting

people

[half hornet]

Oh yeah, the final super wave was horrifying.

[cosmic quail]

the last time i played it

they kept going down during the run

[half hornet]

With the whole facility shacking it felt like its true game over.

[cosmic quail]

it was so bad

[half hornet]

Very authentic experience.

[cosmic quail]

:P

[half hornet]

But we managed just barely.

[cosmic quail]

yes

[half hornet]

I think i hit 0% ammo again.

[cosmic quail]

how

[half hornet]

Had to melee a couple of last ones.

[cosmic quail]

there is a cheese spot

if youre too lazy to do it

:P

its funny

[half hornet]

I don't cheese

[cosmic quail]

mhm

ok

[half hornet]

Ladder Foam is the only one i accept because its a game mechanic and it expands tool

[last gust]

I tried some other options like scatter and BC early on, but figured out pretty quickly that I wanted hel gun for that level

[cosmic quail]

oh yea hel gun is boosted

[half hornet]

(and gives foam more reasons to exist besides door foaming which is getting kinda old if i'm being honest)

[inland island]

Hel autopistol and knife

[cosmic quail]

foam when around corner

[inland island]

My beloved

[cosmic quail]

i saw a bunch of nightmare strikers just shove each other out of the way

it was so dumb

cause some of them were foamed and they just slid horizontally across my screen

[inland island]

God that time I hit a double headshot..

I didn't even line them up

[cosmic quail]

:P

[inland island]

It was so satisfying

With hel gun

[cosmic quail]

hel gun giant kills :P

[inland island]

I usually aim the head
Legs and the limbs with hel gun

[cosmic quail]

for giants?

i mean personally

[half hornet]

Hm.

[cosmic quail]

two giants in a line

[half hornet]

Do you think HEL Gun is of any help or R8D2?

[cosmic quail]

chest shot x7

:P

[cosmic quail]

uhm

i mean its just a good gun