#gtfo-related-questions

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neon gust
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Ive seen more wipes trying to spawn block the damn thing on twitch than actually doing what is intended

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its literally r4c2 all over again

flat rock
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Not even being able to spawn block correctly smh

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What lack of game knowledge and experience

minor fractal
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If optimizing the fun out of the game isn't a balance issue, then we might as well not care about level design at all.

spark wolf
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A2 had guaranteed scout in 16 and rng scout in 19 vs now where its just guaranteed in 19

neon gust
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Why are you trying to optimize something that literally sets you back an alarm

minor fractal
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They should just throw together some randomized bs and let people make their own levels out of it.

neon gust
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it takes less time to do it the normal way

minor fractal
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No?

neon gust
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optimizing will actually do something good for the average player

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this doesnt

minor fractal
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It takes more time because you have to clear it twice

neon gust
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Who

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clears it twice

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WHO

flat rock
flat rock
neon gust
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Its a respawn room rayalot

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with fucking stealth scans

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your suppose to skip it

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you clear it once

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and thats when you actually have the ammo and health from the side rooms

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skill issue to 100

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Not every room has to be cleared

flat rock
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No I require a clean map dragon

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and respawns ruin my immersion

tropic ferry
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based

neon gust
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of course theyre exception to the rule like always

neon gust
flat rock
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when where how

tropic ferry
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C1 respawns were bad, C2 respawns were good

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i will not elaborate

covert apex
flat rock
spark wolf
tropic ferry
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D2

neon gust
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D2 hella good

tropic ferry
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D2 was fire

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the beginning was a bit slow though

covert apex
neon gust
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d2 be one of my favorite reactos

covert apex
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imagine not enjoying D2

flat rock
spark wolf
flat rock
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shadow ping sadge

neon gust
flat rock
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Definitely not being told my ass gon get ate

flat rock
minor fractal
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Unfun, but a lot easier.

covert apex
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So you deliberately choose to play an unfun way..?

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And then get.. mad over it..?

minor fractal
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It's a hardcore game, playing optimally is kind of the point.

tropic ferry
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ray are you in favor of che... cheesing? 🤮

neon gust
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When the optimization gets more people killed than anything then its not optimal

minor fractal
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???????

tropic ferry
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which optimization are we talking about

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resource management?

minor fractal
neon gust
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spawn blocking its a skill apparently now

tropic ferry
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risk?

covert apex
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in a good way!

minor fractal
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This isn't that hard to understand. If the game encourages people to play in a way that is unfun, that's bad design

neon gust
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after scan you literally have to clear that room once and thats whithout having some unfortunate soul sit in the room doing nothing

tropic ferry
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it encourages against spawn blocking

tropic ferry
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that was the point of the update with the scans

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because they overlooked something doesnt encourage it

neon gust
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Mac with some bomb there

covert apex
neon gust
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If it actually respawn enemies on top of the player you know what people will say

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yeah

covert apex
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next thing i'm going to read is that r5c1 is harder than r4c3

flat rock
tropic ferry
rigid sinew
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mf sleeper is gonna sit on me while I stealth

neon gust
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kekw

flat rock
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R4C3 was easy wym

rigid sinew
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I wonder how it would be if the only way to avoid enemy respawn was if all players are in the same room

covert apex
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you don't avoid them?

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easy

rigid sinew
flat rock
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You just do pacifist runs then ezpz

spark wolf
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i think respawn room were balance around kiting and bhop

neon gust
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GODDAMIT

rigid sinew
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trolololo

spark wolf
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OH SHIT

covert apex
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OH SHIT

flat rock
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SHIT OH

neon gust
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TISH HO

rigid sinew
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OH

shrewd dirge
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SHIT

covert apex
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guys pls keep it gtfo related thanks

flat rock
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Ok Kaneki

rigid sinew
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1984

spark wolf
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The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.

covert apex
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GTFO is osu

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click the sleepers

spark wolf
flat rock
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Where are my anime girls dancing in the background then Kaneki

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Check mate

covert apex
spark wolf
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yes

covert apex
rigid sinew
spark wolf
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joe biden

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(good ending)

covert apex
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joeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

rigid sinew
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mama

flat rock
covert apex
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haha (excuse my horrendous english)

tropic ferry
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you are excused

flat rock
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No you aren't

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Go eat a baguette and I'll excuse you

covert apex
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you're done

spark wolf
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pourqoi

rigid sinew
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ok (I’m extremely sorry for my awful use of the English_USA language)

covert apex
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oui

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english_usa

rigid sinew
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english_susa

spark wolf
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il y a un imposteur parmi nous

covert apex
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STOP

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NOW

minor fractal
rigid sinew
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hay un impostor entre nostros

neon gust
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a level in wich the players split up????

minor fractal
neon gust
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I understood what you mean, people will take the easiest path

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but spawnblocking isnt the easiest path

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like ive mention before, on twitch ive seen many people attempting it

minor fractal
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It is the easiest path given you alert the first room.

rigid sinew
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actually the easiest path is just not waking them up :ujel:

neon gust
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they all die multiple times until they do it

spark wolf
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easiest is disabling the s1 alarm

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😆

covert apex
neon gust
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then proceed to die in the next hub room

minor fractal
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Because it sounds like, if we just say that everything is player choice, that balance issues are impossible.

neon gust
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I mean it is your desicion to stay in there 15 min doing nothing

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because it makes it "easier"

minor fractal
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Which is absurd, sorry. The game shouldn't be designed such that the optimal way to engage with it isn't fun or doesn't meet the standards of difficulty it should.

neon gust
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when that person could actually be participating in the game clearing the side rooms

rigid sinew
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implying the game is fun

minor fractal
neon gust
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bro

neon gust
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and thats assuming spltting 2 and 2 for the stealth scans

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and you do it properly

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your literally defending respawn blocking

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you dont clear it twice

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you clear it once before proceding to the next hub

minor fractal
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Black, what do you think I'm saying?

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Because what you're saying doesn't make a whole lot of sense in context.

neon gust
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thats for sure

minor fractal
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Let's allege that you alert the first hub zone.

neon gust
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you saying its optimal

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it isnt

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people literally alert the room on purpuse to try to spawn block it

minor fractal
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That's not what I'm talking about?

neon gust
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you dont have to clear that room at all

minor fractal
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I'm saying you unintentionally alert it.

neon gust
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Your playing with words now because you loosing

minor fractal
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No, you need to clear it if you don't want to fight the entire room for the S.

rigid sinew
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if you alert it you should kinda be punished about it

neon gust
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theres no reason to spawn block in that level and its really far from optimal

neon gust
rigid sinew
neon gust
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i already told you that

minor fractal
neon gust
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Im stating fact here ray

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its not optimal

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its unfun

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and it teaches people to do the wrong thing

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i think im done here

minor fractal
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So it's optimal after you alert that room to allow it to respawn, return there, clear it a second time, and then do the S?

neon gust
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youll die if you trigger that room before you even open a side room

minor fractal
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Rather than spawn blocking, getting one cell as soon as you can, doing the S, and then allowing it to respawn?

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No?

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What?

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That room isn't hard to fight if you're not dogshit.

neon gust
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you have 0 ammo after the first s1 ray

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the mayority of people empty theyre guns on that first s1

minor fractal
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You'll be low on ammo, sure, but you'll have enough to clear at minimum the striker titans.

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This happens all the time in PuGs.

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Somebody pisses something off, you clear them out but have no ammo, somebody spawn blocks until they can do the S.

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Much less hassle than letting it respawn and then clearing it all over again for the S.

rigid sinew
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why are waking them up to begin with

minor fractal
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They're woken up unintentionally pretty much every time.

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I haven't seen people alerting them on purpose, yet.

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It's just that spawn blocking is a lot more straightforward than clearing it twice if it's alerted.

neon gust
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I see your point but even then Clearing it a second time its not crazy when you have ammo

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Even if i triggered that room i always go into the siderooms

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and when we come out we clear it again

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theres like what

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16 uses of ammo

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I dont like promoting something that makes the level boring for one player

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you see people on twitch, when someone tells them to sit at the room, you can clearly see the distaste of it

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even tho they wanna push forward, but sadly the will of getting the completion its higher

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re-clearing that room isnt that bad

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People overexagerate the difficulty in this game by a lot

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oh theres 3 hybrids in that room, well you got sniper with 3 bullets dontchu?

wary linden
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people can't aim though

minor fractal
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Then it kind of sounds like there's too much ammo on the level? Also, I don't think ammo is always that plentiful for weaker players, are we just going to ignore how the level is balanced for its tier?

neon gust
wary linden
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you expect pubs to be able to aim

neon gust
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You either practice or practice

wary linden
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i see still a lot of pub players who don't know the differences between hel riffle and sniper...

neon gust
minor fractal
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If ammo is tight for a group that finds the level more difficult, then it makes a lot of sense to spawn block for them, hence why I'm saying, no matter how much leeway the game gives you, it's easier/optimal to spawn block. It doesn't get a pass because the difficulty gap between the strategies doesn't matter for some players, it's still encouraging unfun play by its design.

neon gust
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there really any issue with ammo

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when it comes to clearing it a second time if you trigger the room when you first enter

rigid sinew
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is it me or everything in this game boils down to “skill issue”

wary linden
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well if the game was taking an approach where it would reward team splitting. it would force players to learn stuff more... but instead we get a lot of stuff that's the opposite

neon gust
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Mac said it on paper "because they overlooked something doesnt encourage it"

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pre neft triggerin that room was kinda of a death sentence

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so it make sense for that respawn room

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now not so much

wary linden
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which is why you did a scan first and go grab that ammo in case of a trigger

neon gust
wary linden
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you'd be surprise lol 🤣

neon gust
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unless your spatial awareness its literal 0%

rigid sinew
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actually…

wary linden
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i have stopped going in C1 pub for a reason 😛

minor fractal
neon gust
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they assumed we would move on

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but we didnt

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so they overlooked that aspect of the mechanic

vital sierra
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they could make it ignore player

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but that will be a breaking point for some player

neon gust
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also they most likely tought people would bitch if they would spawn on top of you if you stayed in that area for too long

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or because it would look wrong and not "inmersive"

minor fractal
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Tbh, I think this is just among a long lists of things the developers really didn't think about that much until it came out and it became patently obvious they hadn't thought about it that much.

neon gust
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I agree with statement

fierce oracle
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I have no sympathy for them

rigid sinew
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fair enough

neon gust
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i refuse to do it

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its something i dont like

neon gust
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6 months was the vacation

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😆

fierce oracle
gleaming cradle
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b r u h

neon gust
fierce oracle
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my mommy says I can't talk to strangers

neon gust
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add you on facebook

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woops

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i mean

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META

gleaming cradle
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meta is an illusion

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its still facebook

keen solar
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If you die in meta verse, you die in real life

neon gust
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just like GTFO!

rigid sinew
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what if you c-foam 🤔

neon gust
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bro thats an essay

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wachu typing

keen solar
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Kekw

rigid sinew
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finally, 10 years later

keen solar
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Cuz it’s a bit offensive don’t wanna get banned you know SantonianWhatElse

hoary wedge
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Whats the distance needed to make sniper sentry functuonal?

gleaming cradle
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40 m

hoary wedge
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Im asking about minimum

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Are there any rooms 40m big?

minor fractal
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It's more important that it has LoS long enough to actually take shots, which is maybe 15m.

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It can also just switch targets, though, so range isn't really a big deal if you give it any amount of runway.

hoary wedge
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if i dc from a game and rejoin do my boosts come back if i dont change anythinig at all?

shrewd dirge
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no

fierce oracle
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you can bring new ones though

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bring ammo boosters

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dc immediately to lose the negative effects

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ez game

desert falcon
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I know it's a bit late but I finally remembered that we have a patch notes channel ^^
#patch-notes message

faint flame
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thanks

steel valley
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yes

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or you can get - proj res

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same lol

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a friend of mine had all 3 steroids with low hp req and he was no charge headshotting in e1

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that looked like a lot of fun

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so far i have the muted/bold but i'm still waiting for my first aggresive :(

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might be at this point

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all i get are ammo boosters

upbeat iris
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Hey guys, me and my friend recently got the game and had a few rounds - we got to an alarmed door in B1 and saw that we need to stand in these 4 spots to unlock it.. or at least we think so. We died to the wave that spawned and didn't get a chance to figure it out but i wanna just check is it possible to get past this with only 2 players?

tropic ferry
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yes

keen solar
tropic ferry
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I would definitely start with A tier levels

upbeat iris
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Ah it might've been A1 actually, I can't quite recall

upbeat iris
light wigeon
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guys is the monster respawn mechanic gone/reworked?

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I stoped playing because of it

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and I can't find nothing about it on reddit

keen solar
keen solar
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Cocoon?

light wigeon
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yeah

keen solar
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They are still here but less spawn and less annoying

spark wolf
keen solar
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Except C1 and D1 MonkaChrist 🤦‍♂️

hoary wedge
topaz anvil
keen solar
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Not everyone is experienced and has the patience. Especially for those who think this is a shooting game

upbeat iris
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i've only got one friend with the game atm so have to learn duo

keen solar
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Which over 50% of streamers think it’s a shooting game smug_cat

upbeat iris
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at least we'll be experts by the time the other guys get it

keen solar
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Playing duo can learn a lot in this game. But that’s only when you question everything weather success or not and keep attempting.

upbeat iris
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yeah, the extra challenge makes it more interesting i guess anyway since it's more of an "oh shit" moment if you attract a horde

glass sand
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in c2's overload, do the sleepers keep on spawning or is there a set amount of them? any idea?

shrewd dirge
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they'll keep spawning im pretty sure.

tropic ferry
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there is a set amount

long ember
tropic ferry
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the "meta" strat is to hold at spawn then wait 5 min

shrewd dirge
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what about the mother and tank?

long ember
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it is set

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mother and tank spawn only once

shrewd dirge
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do they have to spawn from the side rooms?

long ember
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no

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same rules as regular waves

shrewd dirge
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k, i didnt know of this, i think ill try it next time.

spark wolf
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set spawns but they still stop once you finish the scan

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altho at default speed, if nothing gets blocked you're fighting all spawns

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so unless you bring boosters to increase the speed, there's no real reason to be in the scan to fight

glass sand
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alright that makes sense

keen solar
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Yeah you can actually hold the defense line on the bridge that is next to the extreme bulkhead DC then kill everything there till the mom is dead then go back to the scan for 5 minutes blue_bodyroll

indigo quiver
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what is each shotgun better at over the other?

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i.e the combat has more shells but less damage

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regular has less but more damage

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I dont use combat that much which is why im asking 😄

keen solar
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Never use any shotguns sad_cat_crop

shrewd dirge
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combat is pretty good if you like being the front line in an S1 or surge alarm

keen solar
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But Combat is pretty good if you don’t have any boss type enemies

fierce oracle
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Combat for stagger/killing most of a wave

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Normal shotty for chargers/giants/boss damage

finite plinth
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combat for aborting babies first then boss dps

tacit zealot
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abortion shotgun

floral acorn
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if you stand next to a hybrid at its side (90 degrees), charge hammer, flashlight him to glow, hit the back of the head (from the side), does it add up back + head multi?

desert falcon
steel valley
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back damage is based on positioning, not where you hit

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so you would have to be actually behind the hybrid for full back multi

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but yes you can stack back and head multis

floral acorn
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normal crouchy slouchy strikers can't be onetapped from 90 iirc

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gotta be behind, flash em to raise head, tap bonk

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we've attempted a few hybrids from left and right but he needed a lot more hammer / bullets after two full bonks

steel valley
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you have to be directly behind the hybrid

floral acorn
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thank you gents/ladies, appreciated

median forge
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I’ve always been on the edge as to if hybrids had head weak points

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Just seems like they would inherit that from chargers

distant ice
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when they first came out they didn't

median forge
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Hybrids are slightly redeemed in my mind

tropic ferry
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What

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In rundown 2 they didnt have a larger multiplier for head?

distant ice
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they didn't have any weakspots at first

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changed mid-rundown

vivid plank
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Anyone know the point of the optional bulkhead in A2? Far as I know it only shuts down the power and makes it more difficult, does it have any upsides?

covert apex
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You grab an HDD that is located far left of the room

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That way you get a PE clear thumbs_up

vivid plank
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oh so its just for benefit of a better clear

covert apex
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Yes

vivid plank
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got it

covert apex
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Oh wait, I misread that, sorry, A2 extreme only reroutes the power

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So basically just turns off the lights

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It’s an environmental change, nothing much too it

void swallow
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Overload is le hdd

covert apex
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It affects the whole level

distant ice
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Layers aren't supposed to have "any upsides"

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They're "optional" difficulty

void swallow
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To unlock other tiers you need some layer clears, but thats about it

wary linden
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every reactor behind a optional difficulty has the upside of giving you a lot more resources then you'd have if you didn't do it. no reactor uses all the resources you are given

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you could say that R5A3 overload give you access to the resource zone early which could be seen as an upside 🤔

spark wolf
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but in none of those cases is it easier to do the extra optional and the main vs just the main alone

floral acorn
wary linden
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well i never said it did not bring downside with it

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i just give some food for thoughts that some optional objectives do have some upsides

floral acorn
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i agree with you, ups and downs, i personally liked a3 a lot more with overload included

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.. but will never, ever, step into extreme. i'm not ready for error waves with scouts and giants. yet.

tropic ferry
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ext made the ending so much easier

spark wolf
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removing fog from that 1 alarm isn't worth it at all

tropic ferry
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not having fog on the way to extract also helps a lot

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wait is there an alarm?

spark wolf
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no

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there was nothing

tropic ferry
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nevermind i guess lol

wary linden
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it was 2 alarms. the high bulkhead one and the class 5 behind it where scans go everywhere on said room. sure it is not a room filled with fog but the pathways where enemies are gonna be traveling to you are in the fog if i recall corectly. it'S been a long time since i didn't do C3 high only

spark wolf
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yeh but you can completely ignore the other one

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as you'll be doing an alarm in the same foggy zone if you do extreme

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that's one extra class

wary linden
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the class 4 (extreme) has only 1 door they can come through. does the class 3 (high) also only come for 1 door if extreme is not open? i forgot the exact layout

spark wolf
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scans moved less and it's one class less

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you will only get a single wave

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door situation is meaningless

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it was 2 sides but double doors for both sides

wary linden
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yeah ok they would be same~ish difficulty

spark wolf
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ok

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so that leaves you with the question of whether all the rest of extreme + the main alarm without fog is easier than just the main alarm with fog

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knowing that you get showered with fog repellers in the zone where you go to grab the key

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a zone with no fog

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so you get to loot it very easily

wary linden
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well my original point was. overall it is an upside brought by extreme that infectious fog in the whole level was gone. it doesn't negate all the downside cause the whole point was just stating that there were some upsides

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like you could have it in pros : no more infectious fog, cons : you have to deal with everything inside extreme

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ofc there are more cons then pros but there are still some pros

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same thought process for R5A3 overload :
pro : you get access to resource room early
cons: infections rise making S1 scan harder, you gotta deal with overload

spark wolf
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yes

rigid sinew
wary linden
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don't put words in my mouth

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all i said is it is suppose to make it harder by rising the fog

spark wolf
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A3 its really bad for an A tier

wary linden
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it is still an A tier level hence pretty easy overall and brain dead for good and average players

spark wolf
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unfortunate alarm room layouts for meta strats that they get recommended like crazy

keen solar
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It does if you have idiots in your team. Had a teammate jumped out of the scan for 3 seconds. Everyone then kept dying and reviving and the scan went from 80 back to 20 PepeHappy

spark wolf
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most resources hidden behind an extra alarm that they just won't do

timid glade
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well nothing can save you from teammates acting like that

wary linden
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i think that extra alarm is to teach you that sometimes it's worth going out of your way

spark wolf
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but its possibly not cuz they already empty

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you could put that resource zone with its alarm early on

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so they actually still have a choice

wary linden
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well it teach them to use terminals and check ahead what's inside too and then they can make a decision

spark wolf
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it makes them pick between S1 (no idea what that shit will be) or class 2 when already being low

wary linden
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problem is.. most new players won't do that xd

spark wolf
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might as well not do the extra alarm

keen solar
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No one ever tries to use the terminal when they are new smug_cat

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Unless I force them to smug_cat

wary linden
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well some new players are like : huh a class 2. it's pretty low, we could try it.

spark wolf
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and then they die

keen solar
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Explained to a streamer that why terminal is useful on B4
Her:” I don’t want to sit next to the terminal and spend 15 mins to search for stuff. Yeah it’s annoying”

spark wolf
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because its also an unfortunate layout

wary linden
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debatable

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you can 100% react to 2 of the 3 spawns

spark wolf
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they are new players

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they dont have to know how spawns work at all

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they just see doors and realistically think they can come from everywhere possible

wary linden
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true BUT with audio you can hear which side the scream is coming

keen solar
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They don’t

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They don’t even know music stops means no more enemies PepeHappy

wary linden
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they understand that a scream means enemies though 😛

keen solar
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Excluding the bug

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Nuh

spark wolf
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layouts should favour the player in A tier

keen solar
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They know when they see the whole room turns red

spark wolf
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you slap an easier layout on A1 last alarm and it's massive for new players

wary linden
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you have an alarm going on and a scream. that's pretty easy to put 2 and 2 together though 🤷‍♂️

timid glade
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is a1 hard for new players or something? I don't remember it being anything special

keen solar
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New players are

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Special

wary linden
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not every new players are dumb though

keen solar
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Every new players on Twitch are

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Cough cough

spark wolf
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its not about being dumb

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dookie layout for last alarm on A1

wary linden
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i don't mean what you are talking about wesley

spark wolf
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heavy scan rng due to multi layer room

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meta strat is dogshit because low spawn-distance

keen solar
spark wolf
#

3 doors

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go guess

timid glade
#

I mean I guess but you gotta learn sometime

keen solar
#

Newbies are failing A1 10 times because of that scan

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And you can’t explain mechanics to them because they are so freaking dumb to understand…. 🤦‍♂️
I said two areas away and they think the class 3 area has two areas (upstairs and downstairs)

spark wolf
#

that scan increases in difficulty by an immense amount once that small door breaks

#

and that's exactly what happens

#

all the time

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when they aren't nearly done with scans

wary linden
# spark wolf 3 doors

like i said you can react to 2 of those doors though so the layout isn't that punishing if the player notice that or goes for something like that

spark wolf
#

im talking about A1 last alarm now

keen solar
#

The moment you can react, it’s too late bruh

wary linden
#

oh mb

spark wolf
#

when the small door gone, enemies spawn with 5s of reaching you

keen solar
#

You scan is upstairs and they are breaking the downstairs door

spark wolf
#

they get to you instantly

wary linden
#

true. but if they have c-foam they can experiment with it on another try. this game is suppose to be "hard" so new players shouldn't expect dropping in and completing the levels on their first attempt ever if there are no teacher in their group

spark wolf
#

thats the point

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the cfoam meta its dogshit there

wary linden
#

this game encourage the experimenting

spark wolf
#

because on a fail its almost always a wipe

#

the shit u guys tell them to do

keen solar
#

Remember

spark wolf
#

its not helpful for them

keen solar
#

Newbies hate being guided kekw

wary linden
#

c-foam is just the 1st thing people will experiment rather then trying to leave a door open

spark wolf
#

open the back door and it's a very safe strat

#

and they will still fuck up cfoam

#

the cfoam thing shouldn't even be possible

wary linden
spark wolf
#

lame mechanic

keen solar
#

Also,
A1 is a stupidly bad map for beginners because you are forcing the beginners to learn 10+ mechanics in one map

wary linden
#

you think previous A1 are better? idk did not play before R4. did see R1A1 though

timid glade
#

I think its pretty lax if you don't go for ex

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r4a1 without an ex

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was the easiest map by a longshot

stable locust
keen solar
#

The past rundowns only teach 1-3 mechanics in A1

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Scan, 3-5 enemies in one area

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And retrieve item maybe

spark wolf
#

people not being able to get past A1 without constantly foaming a door

timid glade
#

Just watched a vid of someone doing r5a1 and scans were done before the wave got there with one seafoam on each door

spark wolf
#

i dont think thats good

keen solar
#

R5 ? 15+ enemies in one room if you get bad RNG

stable locust
#

Now since Rundown 1, you have Infection, Infection Fog And Spitters, Bulkhead Keys, Sectors, Boosters, Terminal Uplinks, Cells And Generators, Different Alarm Types, etc.

spark wolf
wary linden
#

i doubt spitters will be in an A1 level

spark wolf
#

best vs worst

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its double

keen solar
#

Yeah if you don’t know door can be permafoamed, you are fucked at the end

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For newbies

timid glade
#

huh I guess I'm just too experienced to see it, a 3 alarm is pretty short. 2 are always done before mobs get to you at the very worst

keen solar
#

Because they all tend to bring 3 sentries and put one one each door

stable locust
#

Should there be like a game guide directory thing within the main menu or pause menu that gets updated each time the player encounters a new mechanic?

timid glade
#

layout wasn't that bad

wary linden
#

depends what the other players brought though. sentries can help by slowing down the horde

stable locust
#

Like, when the player first encounters a Scout, a page gets added into the directory that explains what a Scout is and what it does.

timid glade
#

would be nice if there was alike a hub with info

#

or something yeah

spark wolf
#

small door break -> you're fucked

#

difficulty is insane because they spawn almost next to you

#

everything you clear is instantly back on you

keen solar
#

Tbh if the game teaches newbies how to use terminal properly from the very beginning. It has at least solved half of the problem 🤦‍♂️

spark wolf
#

it would probably be a better learning experience overall if you allow them to clear wave and then continue with their scans

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without punishing them so much

keen solar
#

🤦‍♂️

stable locust
#

Is it in the patch notes that you can no longer type commands in a terminal while a command is currently being done?

spark wolf
#

thats really only the case for the ping command

#

and ludvig said thats actually unintentional at some point

stable locust
#

So it was a bug that players could kind of, "buffer" commands and instantly enter a new one after the current one finishes?

wary linden
#

maybe something that happened due to the -T option for ping 🤔

spark wolf
#

its more likely because they wanted to fix spam ping

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which they did

stable locust
#

Yea, that explains it.

spark wolf
#

you could use cls to insta ping

wary linden
#

well they gave you a way to continue pinging too with -T

spark wolf
#

first alarm A1 also dookie with bad rng :)

#

if they get a scan in the pit

#

they're actually insane if they survive

neon gust
#

I will fight t'all

#

cfoaming its wack

#

open door

#

fight like the badass you;are

#

confidence

#

teach confidence

#

gotta fight mothafuckas in the complex

spark wolf
#

scan in the fog pit that has 2 ladders on opposite sides

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so they'll be dropping in with invincibility from both sides

keen solar
#

BD the best teacher blue_bodyroll

spark wolf
#

and you cant even see them

neon gust
#

I mean if they bring a mine the rng variant aint that bad

#

unless theyre reaction time its like -2000

spark wolf
#

but its their first alarm so the mine will just be somewhere random

shrewd dirge
#

4 players that are used to FPS games could reasonably clear the cluster in A1 with the doors open and no tools.

keen solar
#

But they need to have enough ammos beforehand

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Which newbies don’t in lots of time

spark wolf
#

they'll need the right experience or enough luck that they brought the right weapons too

neon gust
#

A ma keep it real wichu i didnt even read what the convo was

spark wolf
#

so it's still not really reasonable

neon gust
#

whats the topic

keen solar
#

Oh

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Umm

neon gust
#

I just see permafoam on class 3 and went all in

spark wolf
neon gust
#

cuz im baboon

neon gust
#

A1 its ass

#

like gawdam

spark wolf
#

thank you mr 224

neon gust
#

class 3 its the biggest insult really like it was mention before

keen solar
#

From R4C3 layer difficulty has its up and down, to how bad beginners are, then talk about why R5A1 is hard compare to the rest of the A1

shrewd dirge
#

beginners get lost on missions that are anything but a straight path.

neon gust
#

by the time they finish the team scan, the sleepers breaking that small door already, and they dont even know

spark wolf
#

if you play A1 with 3 new players, even you will struggle if they break that door

timid glade
#

foam class 3 owns because you prob won't have to fight anything with seafoam mine

spark wolf
#

you dont want the small door gone before scans are pretty much done

neon gust
#

They close the gap too quick with small door

timid glade
#

love me some seafoam and mines

keen solar
#

I normally bring C-foam just in case

neon gust
#

Mans prepared

keen solar
#

You have to prepare for all the stupidities that would happen with newbies SantonianWhatElse

wary linden
#

meanwhile instead i just teach them some basic stuff and basically let them learn the game by doing the "harder" parts. i'm just there as a "safety" xD

timid glade
#

my group does one of each on the first run

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then later on we'll drop seaform/scanner if they don't fit

spark wolf
#

cfoam nerf when

wary linden
#

when a tool that can rival it get released? 🤔

spark wolf
#

u get to foam the door once

tropic ferry
spark wolf
#

and u get to foam 1 door per tool use

neon gust
#

They gotta rework how the door health system works

#

pretty simple really

shrewd dirge
#

they gotta rework how gtfo works

timid glade
#

mine is the mvp

spark wolf
#

people complain about tank mines

#

but still cfoam + mine for entire alarms

#

same thing

keen solar
#

10C: full release will make gtfo to be a complete mmorpg

spark wolf
#

do u want to spend a shit ton of tool to deal with this threat without doing anything

shrewd dirge
#

if i cant fish lobsters in b3 game is dead on release.

timid glade
#

I don't think thats a bad thing

spark wolf
#

how is it not a bad thing

topaz anvil
#

10 blobs per door max would be interesting

timid glade
#

tools are also a resource

spark wolf
#

do u have fun clearing alarms without doing anything

timid glade
#

nothing wrong with trading them for ammo

spark wolf
#

C3 main its one of the most boring things till you get to uplinks

#

just use your tool only

keen solar
#

Question

spark wolf
#

dookie

#

0 action

#

TOOL PART 5

shrewd dirge
#

c3 has got some hilarity when no one knows whats up though

topaz anvil
keen solar
#

Do you guys think foaming the ladder stop the entire wave from coming is a bug :/??

neon gust
#

byproduct of colission and foam

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le funny

timid glade
#

yeah c3 is fine, nothing wrong with a single tool focused level. As long as it isn't a bunch of them

spark wolf
#

tools should assist

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not carry

neon gust
#

should be nerf imo

spark wolf
#

make em fall down if they get foamed on ladder

shrewd dirge
#

i dislike missions where the runup to the hard shit takes 20 minutes.

topaz anvil
#

I mean

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It fits the name of an expedition

shrewd dirge
#

i want a mission thats only 3 zones long

topaz anvil
#

A1

neon gust
#

A1

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less go

shrewd dirge
#

but like, interesting.

neon gust
#

A1

#

R2A1 less go

tropic ferry
#

whats ur guys favorite A1

spark wolf
#

R3

topaz anvil
#

R4, no shoot

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Scout

tropic ferry
#

im stuck between 1 and 3

shrewd dirge
#

the one where beginners pick the wrong alarm door instantly.

keen solar
#

R3 has a cool map so ye

topaz anvil
#

Im literally only limited to R4 and R5

tropic ferry
#

skill issue

topaz anvil
#

Sadge

spark wolf
#

typical B2 enjoyer

topaz anvil
#

Real question is can everyone remember the name of every level

spark wolf
#

resucitation

topaz anvil
#

And objective

shrewd dirge
#

i can hardly remember my age.

spark wolf
#

put the baby in the mixer

wary linden
#

hmmmmmm baby juice

topaz anvil
#

If you cant label the levels, name, objective, and the starting zone you arent a true fan smh

tropic ferry
#

i can only name 2 levels just this rundown, i cant even say I read the names this rundown

#

does anyone know them all

topaz anvil
#

Sadly i do

shrewd dirge
#

r1c2

wary linden
#

name them all

shrewd dirge
#

oh, you're a fan of death metal? name all the bands.

topaz anvil
#

Floodways, Recollect, Mining
Smother, Discharge, Unseal, Diversion
Binary, Access, Starvation
Even Deeper, Error
KDS Deep

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Sadge

timid glade
weary mesa
#

what

timid glade
#

the ex with the huge alarm in the fucking huge room

weary mesa
#

R4A1 did not have PE

timid glade
#

oh

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was it a2

#

fuck a1 then

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myb

#

oh r1a1 was the one where you could do two alarm at once right?

#

that was neat

#

did they hire an animator in that little hiring spree I heard about

neon gust
#

we did overload many times

weary mesa
#

damn me 80 year old man thenboom

timid glade
#

damn seems like people don't know

#

I dream of a day where hybrids don't go from on the ground to standing up punching instantly

weary mesa
#

Sniper makes them not do that : )

flat rock
shrewd dirge
#

i long for the day of animation cleanups

#

if i see another fucking charger phase out of existence

#

or a tank speed punching in the air

#

or a chicken phase into a wall, get stuck and wake the room.

#

it will be too soon

indigo quiver
#

does projectile resistance reduce the damage taken from FF?

topaz anvil
#

Why dont you try it out

indigo quiver
#

it dosent

topaz anvil
#

Lol

worldly perch
#

Hello
Does this game have scaling difficulty of some sort? That scales by the amount of players.
If not, are there plans to add one?
I'm not able to get a 4 or even a 3 man party of friends for this game, but i really wanna play it. Bought it first time it became available and can't even play it.

dapper nimbus
#

No scaling difficult at the moment and there won't be any in the future.

#

The devs stated that the game is balanced around 4 players, though it is surely doable in less than 4.

worldly perch
dapper nimbus
#

But it will be much harder to complete expeditions.

distant ice
#

You can get far in duo and can always find more people from the community

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And if not then look at mods for scaling

worldly perch
#

Mods? Like on nexus or something?

keen solar
worldly perch
neon gust
#

Read the rules dingus

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Read rule 12

worldly perch
#

lmao I read 10 and 11 and thought I got trolled, because it's about mods as in moderators

keen solar
#

My sleepy brain went auto-pilot last night kekw

warm yew
#

<@&408548765599793173>

old mountain
#

ty

rigid sinew
#

Anyone knows what the time windows for killing scouts when touching the feelers is?

steel valley
#

1.2ish seconds off the top of my head

tropic ferry
#

I thought it was 1.5 flat

#

Is it less?

topaz anvil
#

Depends how much adrenaline you have

lavish gorge
#

r4c2 had a part where you need to extract a datasphere from a shadow area?

weary mesa
#

yea the overload sector

lavish gorge
#

Thank you

flat rock
#

It's time-able, I'm just hella lazy and do not care to do so

lilac fulcrum
#

it's actually 1.19999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 but we round ||I actually don't know what it's really set to||

tropic ferry
#

this is a hammer damage moment

spark wolf
#

i think you should make it insta aggro for better immersion

flat rock
#

muh immersion

tropic ferry
tough fiber
#

How do I dodge the nasty meele tentacles reliable😭

craggy pier
#

The S key

tough fiber
#

Bro

#

But I do...

desert falcon
#

Dodging to the sides is easier, because the enemies have a cone where they can hit in front of them. It's faster to leave that cone to either the left or right instead of backwards.

tough fiber
#

A cone 😲

#

Alright thanks

#

Since we gettin stamina can we get quick dodges

tardy ingot
#

dont we have those already? (Tho they are moreso a quick repositioning tool)

distant ice
#

Yeah, move a whole centimeter

#

Impressive

tardy ingot
#

1 centimeter > 0 centimeter

upbeat iris
#

hey, if i install the VR mod am i able to play alongside friends on the vanilla version?

#

also, i was wondering if there are any known quirks/bugs to look out for because i know sometimes VR mods can have issues. I'd be using index w/ knuckles

distant ice
upbeat iris
#

oh, my bad

faint flame
ruby wasp
#

😳

upbeat iris
shrewd dirge
tropic ferry
exotic lantern
#

muh immersion

rigid sinew
shrewd dirge
weary mesa
#

it do just be bhop but backwards

craggy pier
#

🤔

wooden osprey
#

@tough fiber yes they take the easiest and shortest path to you

#

first door has another door behind it so they dont want to break 2 doors to get to you

#

the 3rd door is far away so they dont want to take that one cause its far away from the target (sometimes they take it)

#

so the 2nd door downstairs is where they mostly go

wooden osprey
#

yes

tough fiber
#

Wait so they spawn TWO rooms away

wooden osprey
#

yes

tough fiber
#

Ooo

wooden osprey
#

thats how the spawn mechanics work

tough fiber
#

I mean i had a feelin but its nice to confirm it

wooden osprey
#

hm

minor fractal
# tough fiber Ah so its that extra door

Something to be aware of, in rare cases if they pass by a door on the way to the shortest path some will split off and go through two doors even if it's longer.

#

Their pathing is also generally more-so based on rooms travelled rather than doors if they lack any open routes to you.

floral acorn
#

if they pound on two doors at the same time, that's good news, it'll take a lot longer for one to break.. and when one breaks, the enemy behind the intact door may stop pounding and run to use the open path == it'll take them longer to get in

#

with luck it'll save a mine or two if that happens

brazen cargo
#

I found they dont stop pounding and break the door down.

floral acorn
#

sometimes they don't stop, and sometimes the door is pounded broken and nobody runs in " 😄 "

#

anchoragejc / robert words still echoing in my mind (youtube c3 extreme duo): "paranormal activity in the complex"

keen solar
#

Ooooh free nitro <@&408548765599793173>

modest nest
#

Thank ya, got it luv

keen solar
#

No worries

tough fiber
#

can turrets team damage you

tardy ingot
#

Yep. They wont AIM at you tho. Just dont... stand between them and the enemy they are aiming at (especially sniper sentries...)

wise thicket
#

or shotgun sentries when they were still in the game

craggy pier
#

Nah, getting 1-tapped by the shotgun sentry was a rite of passage :D

keen solar
#

Get sniped by the sniper sentry SantonianWhatElse

#

My turret has 100% accuracy of killing teammate

tough fiber
tough fiber
wise thicket
#

It was rundown specific

keen solar
#

Let see if they make a return in the next rundown

#

But it’s gonna be the hot garbage like burst sentry 🤦‍♂️

wise thicket
#

ya

tough fiber
#

Burst is bad? 🤔

keen solar
#

Bringing burst sentry to the game = you want to fail the mission curious

#

So yes

tough fiber
#

😮

#

Wtf

#

What about sentry

#

Uh

#

Auto or whatever

#

Forgot the name

#

The not sniper turret

ionic nexus
#

burst?

stable locust
#

Auto sentry.

ionic nexus
#

shotgun?

tough fiber
#

YES auto

keen solar
#

Auto is alright in this rundown

stable locust
#

It's useful for slowing down enemies but it's not very good at killing enemies.

keen solar
#

Was a must bring tool because mine was buggy before R5 smug_cat

#

Yeah auto is for staggering

tough fiber
#

Wtffff
So sniper only good turret!?

keen solar
#

Yeah kind of

tough fiber
#

🙄 bruh

keen solar
#

Sniper is also trash if you don’t know where to set up

stable locust
#

Would you rather destroy a wave of enemies or slow down a wave of enemies?

keen solar
#

And the more you kill the faster they spawn

tough fiber
#

🥺 idk

ionic nexus
#

auto is good

keen solar
#

So putting sentry outside of the door is doing nothing

#

Except for wasting resources

tough fiber
#

Im confused

keen solar
#

Too lazy to explain it and I’m not home zzzz

ionic nexus
#

why waste sentry ammo when door will hold them and mine one shots whole wave

#

no need to waste ammo

keen solar
#

Kill more, spawn more
So putting sentry outside of the door is nothing but adding enemies

covert apex
#

People actually do that?

keen solar
#

People who returned from R1 and 2 and newbies would do that kekw

#

And they all think burst sentry is awesome 😂

floral acorn
#

autosentry is the a3 s-scan sentry. 800+ ammo, stagger effect etc.

#

pisses bullets but stops enemies so that you can shoot them yourself. works on occasion.

#

.... and i was backlogged, pardon.

fair seal
#

So how does one kill a scout? Does it’s “tentacles” alert them of you like if I run through them? I know I can kill it with a sniper but idk when to shoot ;-;

keen solar
#

run toward, jump and hammer the scout :3

fair seal
#

I tried that with my buddy but it didn’t do anything

keen solar
#

when you touch the tentacles and turn red you have 1.2 seconds to kill it before she screams :3

fair seal
#

Hit it in head too

keen solar
#

full charge?

fair seal
#

Ye

#

Like it was immune

keen solar
#

And you have to aim higher because she is pretty high

#

aim slightly lower will hit the neck instead which doesn't kill her

fair seal
#

I see. I must’ve hit her in the head. That was the end of our run sadly. First time we got that far on a1

keen solar
#

fair

#

not like you will master the skill in your first run

fair seal
#

Didn’t know she could climb ladders. She fell down the hole and we thought we were safe lol

keen solar
#

oh

#

did you hit her before/during/after she climbs the ladder?????

fair seal
#

That’s true. I mean we were two manning it so it was a little difficult but we got it

#

Uh

#

Well she didn’t notice us

#

And fell into the hole behind the car

keen solar
#

mobs cannot be killed if they are in the climbing animation

fair seal
#

Then climbed up and was standing still so we ran and swung our hammer and nothin

keen solar
#

ye

#

Then it's the bug

fair seal
#

So it thinks it was still on the ladder?

floral acorn
#

maybe she got stuck climbing back down or sth

keen solar
#

You can't kill anything for a second or two after the animation

fair seal
#

Ah I see. Damn ):

keen solar
#

because they don't have dying animation while climbing so lol

fair seal
#

Thank you for the help. Appreciate it

keen solar
#

just don't kill anything if they are near the ladder

fair seal
#

Definitely would help us out on the next run

vital sierra
keen solar
#

yeah

#

promoting for you

floral acorn
#

if two people approach a scout, she's more prone to start feeling.. i suggest pick a scout killer and he/she is the only one that goes near her

keen solar
#

❤️

keen solar
#

If the scout's head were gone and screamed, that's definitely the ladder bug.

#

If the head didn't explode, you might have hit the wrong part

fair seal
#

Head gone and scream

keen solar
#

yeah

#

then it's the bug lol

fair seal
#

Damn

#

That hurts but at least we know now

keen solar
#

You guys did it successfully but the bug killed you

#

good job on "killing" it tho

fair seal
#

Thanks. We were both low from the alarm door. Said fuck it and went on swinging lol

#

There were just so many sleepers man

floral acorn
#

a bit deflating to open a door and see 20+, some bunched in tight groups.. and then the scout appears.

#

packed room w/o scout? one big door and a mine, joink ..

spiral quiver
#

So question: Do Mothers that you foam completely stay asleep after the foam wears off

fierce oracle
spiral quiver
#

Thank you so much!

spark wolf
#

or touch?

tough fiber
#

Did the devs change something in A3?
The first 3 times we went there games had at max like 6-7 sleepers (and that itself was rare) in each room that were fairly far away from each other.

We played yesterday again and all two times each room had legit over 12 sleepers tightly togheter, making it impossible to take them out togheter.

tough fiber
#

we became paranoid and now think its the boosters fault

wooden osprey
#

host luck

topaz anvil
#

Lightning does strike twice as they sat

#

Say

tough fiber
#

🤔

distant ice
#

more like, this is normal, the 6-7 was good rng

tough fiber
#

wtf how are you meant to sneak kill them

#

the bulkhead was in a locked locker next to them

#

and there was no lock melter in the two zones

steel valley
#

teamwork :)

wooden osprey
#

you do something i call massacre (if thats how you spell it i have no idea lol)

#

every person picks 1 or 2 sleepers as there first kills

#

than its all out hammer from there

distant ice
#

jokes aside stealthing them is plenty possible

wooden osprey
#

agree

tough fiber
unreal scarab
#

Having extremely packed rooms even in As is completely possible

#

A1 for example. I've had easy, light amounts of sleepers in each room. And I've had times where rooms are packed to hell, where stealthing them is tricky but not impossible if everyone is skilled enough and knows what to do.

floral acorn
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sacrifice a wide door, mine it, pull the room, close the door. boom. except a3 is tight on tool until u open z42.. but we pull packed rooms to save time often..

keen solar
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It is possible but it needs teamwork blue_bodyroll

tough fiber
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Oh MINE

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I played too much minecraft...

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Yeah A3 is fucking stingy with ressources

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Can we get a pickaxe as meele tool 🤔

keen solar
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Yeah it’s the extended rundown so they are much difficult than the normal one

minor fractal
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It has to be extremely bad to not be soloable, and even then a full team can arguably handle it.

unreal scarab
minor fractal
keen solar
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That’s just mechanics-learning. You use flashlight to reset their glowing and pulsing animation

minor fractal
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And you can only get them from single kills, anyhow.

keen solar
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So that you don’t alert the room

floral acorn
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sometimes a group of 7 will be perfectly synced, u start charging hammer, and before release u flash the closest neighbor to glow (wakey manipulation) .. but the problem is that sometimes 2 wake up. u'll get the one but the second one might scream before you get to him

minor fractal
keen solar
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I mean, if they are too close, the whole group will wake up if you kill one of them

minor fractal
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Kind of hard to imagine how this would happen w/out some sort of player error.

floral acorn
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sometimes the glow manip works beautifully, u can choose who wakes up to a kill

tacit zealot
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How much shots did the auto pistol used to take to kill babies

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Weapons data sheet doesnt account for babies at all i think

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since they normally take one hit anyways

craggy pier
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Is there anyway to access previous rundowns?

neon gust
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N O

rigid sinew
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through [redacted]

rancid stone
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can anyone help me with terminal commands i forgot how to ping somngthing

topaz anvil
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ping <item name>

rancid stone
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that it?

topaz anvil
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you must be in the same zone as it for the ping to work tho

rancid stone
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ok thanks

keen solar
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Type "Commands" teaches how to use it tbh lol

vestal girder
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why do many clips i see of ppl who do solo runs use high fov, is it just to see more or there's more technical reasons for it

rigid sinew
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you can see wider I guess

covert apex
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You’re able to see more around you and what’s happening

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Just play around with it and find your sweet spot

vestal girder
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also : for b4, do enemies just stopped spawning after 30 minutes ? I watched a guide on the stage and someone said the alarm will continue during extraction scan but the runs I watched doesn't seems to have any after he cleared the class 3 alarm to enter the last zone and the last wave of the 30 min expires

spark wolf
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There will still be some queued up but it'll stop eventually

vestal girder
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wdym by queued up

spark wolf
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The alarm tries to spawn more than the enemy cap

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Which it can't

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so the extra ones are queued up for later

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while still respecting the large wave timer on it

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so it takes a while for all the extra dudes to spawn

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you should still have like 3m between the queued up waves

tropic ferry
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just had a run on A3 overload where a c-foam tripmine spawned placed down? has anyone seen this before?

spark wolf
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yeh

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you can place them on lobby return

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and they'll be there the next run

tropic ferry
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odd

spark wolf
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was reported to doc

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maybe fix in R6

jade mica
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Do people avoid no-mics?

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Just wondering.

wooden osprey
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i mean ya and no

warm yew
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Depends on who you're playing with

cloud bough
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Do we have any word on if our current boosters that we have stocked up will be deleted once the 1.0 version of the game comes out?

distant ice
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they will stay

craggy pier
jade mica
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thats cool

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Also, how do I get better at this game. It feels like im a beginner all over again.

craggy pier
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Playing harder levels, so you can play with better players, on average.

jade mica
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When I play with better players, they are always ahead of me. Im gonna try to solo some levels so that I can improve.

craggy pier
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Don't solo

jade mica
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Why?

neon gust
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just an fyi

jade mica
craggy pier
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I mean you just follow directions

neon gust
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if your teammates cannot see chat

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thats theyre problem

jade mica
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I suppose.

neon gust
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no mic its only really a problem where liteally 3 out 4 people are no mics

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and you have one guy just talking

craggy pier
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Yeah we feel bad for that one guy talking

jade mica
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Yeah that makes sense.

craggy pier
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But 4 no mic lobby? Godbless is it a good game

rigid sinew
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what if all 4 are fast typers

craggy pier
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200WPM gamers

rigid sinew
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osu! in GTFO confirmed????

craggy pier
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mania player

covert apex
topaz anvil
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Mania sussy

craggy pier
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Quad just you wait.

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When I finally get not poor enough to buy a new tablet, you gettin these clicks in that multiplayer lobby

thorny creek
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How do Cfoam boosters work? Does it give you a faster charge? Or does it make it so that you need less globs to fully reinforce a door?

Or does it literally make you waste more Cfoam ?

craggy pier
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Your CFOAM charge takes less from the tool.

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CFOAM portion needs you to charge it.

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If you're single blotting with CFOAM portion, you're removing its purpose.

woven tinsel
shrewd dirge
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what if instead of a 2 person uplink