gtfo-related-questions

[vocal pollen]

that u doing quick bang to the back of their neck

[warm yew]

And abuse back multipliers to their advantage

[analog galleon]

I didn’t know headshots with hammers did anything

[warm yew]

:brian:

[analog galleon]

Wait do headshots with guns do more damage too

[topaz anvil]

Ye

[analog galleon]

No wonder I can’t kill anything

[topaz anvil]

You keep hitting the toes?

[analog galleon]

Bodyshots

[topaz anvil]

Lol

Dmr to head and body will kill a striker

Dmr to head will kill a shooter

2 and 1 shots respectively

[warm yew]

1 DMR HS leaves it at like... 1 hammer tap health at least

[analog galleon]

I used to think that Gun was useless because it’s like 5 body shots to kill anything

[warm yew]

3 striker bodyshots lmao

[topaz anvil]

You never once tried aiming for the head?

[analog galleon]

Nope

[topaz anvil]

Interesting

[analog galleon]

I have horrible aim

[vocal pollen]

I try to headshot everything, cuz it's waste of ammo to just body shot

[analog galleon]

I miss about 75% of my clip

[vocal pollen]

I use more of shotgun at close range, mostly wait until they charging then fire my shot

[warm yew]

Just position your crosshair such that they run towards your lof

[nimble summit]

Which guns are you using?

[analog galleon]

3 burst rifle 2 shot dmr or normal dmr and a sniper

[vocal pollen]

dont panic shooting, that's the key

[nimble summit]

If you have trouble with aim, I recommend using shotguns (either one) and fully automatic weapons like SMGs or the Assault Rifle.

I personally go with double tap rifle for mid-long range engagements and switch to pump-action shotgun when enemies get close.

The double tap is a very good gun, but it needs accurate aimed shots instead of spraying the mag around. Only fire it if you know you can hit the target.

[vocal pollen]

same, my loadout is double tap n combat shotgun, I think it's best for me to controlling my ammo

[nimble summit]

With double tap I recommend aiming at the neck of enemies, so the first shot hits the body and the recoil pulls the second shot to the head.

[warm yew]

DTR, ammo lmao

[nimble summit]

?

It is a very ammo efficient gun - seven kills for a magazine.

I hope double tap rifle will be available next rundown as well... it is my favourite gun for so many reasons, both functional and aesthetic (even though I find it a bit odd to have a sight on a rail that's attached to another rail)

[warm yew]

I wouldn't recommend it for a new player tbh, its decent, but not if you're one that can easily magdump on 2 strikers

[nimble summit]

Yeah. And it has the worst hipfire of all guns in the game

[warm yew]

And it having nearly the same ammo as DMR, you're better off with a single shot or a full auto gun

Just to start getting used to the guns

[nimble summit]

I find the recoil recovery of double tap faster than DMR so if need be, I am more efficient killing lots of enemies with it in a short time than with a DMR

But yeah, it isn't a great starter gun.

[warm yew]

The bad part about bust dmr is its a burst, and if you kill one sleeper with one bullet, you just waste the other

Its irksome

[nimble summit]

For beginners I recommend light/heavy SMG or an assault/burst rifle and either of the shotguns.

[steel valley]

please don't recommend the heavy smg

that's just sabotage

[warm yew]

Yea no, its worse than DTR

[nimble summit]

Why not? It is much like the assault rifle, just with less ammo

[steel valley]

and less range

and a longer reload

[finite plinth]

i recommend the sawn off/heavy smg and revolver

[warm yew]

But with worse fall off range

[finite plinth]

the greatest combo

[steel valley]

heavy smg is just an all around useless gun

[warm yew]

Sawed off, revo 😩

[nimble summit]

Revolver isn't so bad, but not great for beginners.

It needs a high damage main weapon to go with it though because of its inefficiency against giants

[warm yew]

Like I said, stick to either semi or full auto guns

[steel valley]

revo one mags giants to the back

[warm yew]

AND USE THEM EVENLY

Not be 0/100

[nimble summit]

More often than not you aren't going to get to shoot a giant to the back with a revolver

[warm yew]

You think that, but I quickswap giants' backs with sawed off and revo

LMAO

[nimble summit]

Oh, I actually have a question - does the yellow hit marker mean that I killed the enemy, or that I am shooting an enemy that is already dead?

[steel valley]

both

cause latency

it means you shot the enemy as it died

[warm yew]

Is it not an overkill hitmarker?

[steel valley]

don't think so

it just doesn't factor in back damage

so it's a bit inaccurate

[warm yew]

Weird

[nimble summit]

So there isn't a hit marker for killing an enemy? Only for basic hits, critical hits, hitting an already dead/dying enemy and hitting an invulnerable enemy.

[warm yew]

Just shoot it till you get the orange hit marker

[steel valley]

orange should be the kill marker

and it works as intended as host

but it's really buggy with latency

[nimble summit]

Oh, that explains it then

[floral acorn]

sometimes scout heads go red puff and damn its scary, did it die or not (usually did)

[shrewd dirge]

Or their heads pop with the orange marker and they scream

[tropic ferry]

The chad striker never dies

[distant ice]

gotta love networking

[tropic ferry]

Whats worse? Legsy or shadow scout with no head screaming

[spark wolf]

it doesnt work as intended even as host tho

because it still doesn't count back damage i think

[minor fractal]

Is shadow visibility still hardware dependent, or did the Unity update fix that?

[analog galleon]

Why do the flashlights not illuminate anything for me and the only flashlight that seems to work for me the sniper and high intensity flashlight is that intended for flashlights to be bad

[minor fractal]

What other lights aren't doing it for you?

[analog galleon]

Anything but those two and with fog I can’t see anything at all

[minor fractal]

That's just fog.

What lights have you tried besides the default/hammer light?

[analog galleon]

The hammer has a light?

[minor fractal]

Yes, there is a default light if you're not using any weapon flashlights.

[analog galleon]

Oh the head lamp

[nimble summit]

Different weapons have different flashlights of varying range.

[minor fractal]

AR/DMR/Pistol light is the one I usually use to see and sync.

[analog galleon]

I have tried the shot gun lights and the 3 burst and dmr

[minor fractal]

BR should be identical to sniper?

[analog galleon]

Sniper seems to be a stronger light

[minor fractal]

They use the same 20m light.

[analog galleon]

Is the BR the 3 burst?

[minor fractal]

Yep.

[analog galleon]

I found the BR’s dps lacking

[minor fractal]

You didn't like DMR light, though?

That one's pretty good.

[warm yew]

Its more or less the same as AR but bursts

[minor fractal]

It has some of the best DPS in the game (among main weapons)? It's just not very efficient for killing strikers specifically since it overkills.

[analog galleon]

I had trouble killing most basic sleepers

[warm yew]

If you want a gun with good kill potential, use sawed off at close range, DMR, and pistol

[analog galleon]

It was good for giants but that’s what I was running sniper for

[minor fractal]

If you're running sniper anyhow, your main weapon's light shouldn't really matter.

You just need one good flashlight for syncing and looting.

[warm yew]

Don't take sawed off and sniper unless you're prepared to not have ammo and have to hammer more

[analog galleon]

Sawed off seemed to have good ammo

When I used it I never ran out

[rigid sinew]

double tap + hel gun is all I need in my life

[minor fractal]

Double-tap is disgusting.

[warm yew]

Good

[shrewd dirge]

Dmr hel club

[analog galleon]

I have never used the hel

To me it seems like a worse sniper

[warm yew]

Hel gun is spicy revolver, and hel rifle is even spicier sniper but can't 1 shot headshot giants

[minor fractal]

It has better body damage when making use of the pen. Optimal for chargers, which are a staple enemy in R5.

[analog galleon]

I’m not sure which one is a charger

[rigid sinew]

double tap is really good at killing enemies

[analog galleon]

I don’t remember what that one was

[minor fractal]

Black and spiky. They have tongues and melee.

[warm yew]

They have the same damage according to the wiki

[neon gust]

Presicion

[warm yew]

Hel rifle is just better for body shots

[neon gust]

hs multi

[minor fractal]

Sniper gets considerably less ammunition and doesn't get penetration.

It's nice that they both do the same damage and all, but that changes pretty quickly when one of them has 3 in a mag and gets 3 shots per ammo use and the other has 5 in a mag and gets 9 per ammo use.

Without pen, HEL rifle is getting triple damage.

[analog galleon]

Does hel rifle one shot hybrids?

[minor fractal]

No.

Should be a 6 shot.

[warm yew]

I just wish sniper has 5 in a mag

[analog galleon]

That would be busted

[warm yew]

It'd still be 15 shots total, you just have to reload less

[pulsar herald]

And that is a huge difference aria

[analog galleon]

That means some one with good aim could slaughter everything even faster

[minor fractal]

Sniper is in a good spot rn, tbh. HEL Rifle is busted, though.

[rigid sinew]

imo hel gun is more fun than the hel rifle

[neon gust]

Imagine having a charge up

on hel weaponry

couldnt be me

[analog galleon]

Sniper has saved me enough times from giants to make me never want to swap it out

[minor fractal]

Just use shotguns tbh.

[hoary wedge]

Do enemies missing their heads suffer any penalty?

[warm yew]

No

[minor fractal]

No.

[shrewd dirge]

No

[distant ice]

now why would i do that

[hoary wedge]

Why would they take extra damage from head shots then if the head does nothing?

[warm yew]

I'd rather take MG than shotgun secondaries

[minor fractal]

Why wouldn't they?

[distant ice]

cuz the line between lore and balance is unclear

[minor fractal]

The penalty is that they're more dead with fewer shots.

Bam

GTFO lore solved.

[wise thicket]

🥳

We did it boys

[analog galleon]

If they lose their head they lose more body mass then there leg

[neon gust]

R1 slowdown mechanic would be nice to have back

but changed of course

[distant ice]

where's the sleeper stamina mechanic

[topaz anvil]

Its called getting lost in the world

[spark wolf]

The tank simply cannot run around in a fight for minutes (or hours..) on end without slowing down for a couple of seconds now and then.

equality

[zenith sparrow]

So uh dumb question and I looked it up at all but Google can be wrong, how many strikes to the head does it take to kill a scout?

[gleaming cradle]

1 full charge on head

[distant ice]

waiting for the day we get a different kind of charge-up weapon so that answer becomes ambiguous

[zenith sparrow]

That's a bit confusing cause Google says its two but oh well

[covert apex]

sources?

[distant ice]

you're asking about hammer right?

[zenith sparrow]

Yeah idk why it was just the first answer that popped up and that's what confused me. I found the wiki for the game though so I'll just use that

[gleaming cradle]

its 2 full charges for charger scout

1 full charge for normal

[zenith sparrow]

Ahh

[delicate trellis]

@gleaming cradle you liar it is not easy solo

i cant do 2nd level

[tropic ferry]

where did you get stuck

[delicate trellis]

the 2nd gate

[hoary wedge]

is there no way to set language to any in matchmaker

[keen solar]

Who uses matchmaking still

[hoary wedge]

so youre telling me the game doesnt have a large enought population to mm?

[keen solar]

We use Discord :3

[covert apex]

No

[faint flame]

I had to use matchmaking

it is not fun

[hoary wedge]

theres 10 games going here

thats really low

[keen solar]

You will never find E Tier mission group through Matchmaking

[hoary wedge]

i cant find A/B tier in mm

[minor fractal]

LFG is pretty fast?

[faint flame]

A tier also takes quite awhile

[minor fractal]

This rundown has ben out for like 5 months, though.

[keen solar]

Lfg is fast as hell

[faint flame]

but most of them are A1-A2

and A1 high is a score

snore

[minor fractal]

Very long delay since they're releasing 1.0, so the player population is just not gonna be that high.

[keen solar]

Cuz newbie can’t finish A1 final scan

[faint flame]

I just bring C-foam

and mine most of the annoying rooms

[keen solar]

Look at the twitch streamers, can’t even understand what area is and what zone is after 10 attempts

[faint flame]

I get super lost in the complex tho

[keen solar]

Watching Twitch streamers to play A1 legit make me dumber in so many ways

[hoary wedge]

not everyone is pro like you

[faint flame]

I mean can't you wake every room and still mostly win A1

[minor fractal]

I feel like these were things I picked up on in the first 5 hours of gameplay, tbh.

[keen solar]

Especially when they are all whites, they should have a better understanding of what English words mean

[minor fractal]

I was trying to pick up on them, though.

[keen solar]

“Why are there 3 scans in the final alarm !!!????”

[minor fractal]

Areas are a little more confusing when there's not doors between them, tho.

[keen solar]

Read the security door…?

[faint flame]

the game does not explain the doors tho

[keen solar]

I mean

[hoary wedge]

so does dimished mean diminished

[exotic lantern]

do you expect the game to walk you through?

[minor fractal]

Look, people with no agency will just never be able to perform in this game, that's just a fact.

[exotic lantern]

cause this isnt the game for that

🤨

[keen solar]

I explained like Area is separated into A B C D E to streamer once

They are still confused

[faint flame]

I don't expect that, but eventually monkey brain sees a patten

[keen solar]

I just can’t

[minor fractal]

N O A G E N C Y

[keen solar]

It does

[exotic lantern]

just means less time between waves iirc

less enemies per wave

but same amount overall iirc

[keen solar]

But diminished alarm seems to bug out from my understanding

[minor fractal]

Not really specific to diminished alarms, it just triggers the new wave conditions sooner.

[keen solar]

Need to double check

[exotic lantern]

i just fuck with the class IX diminished on D2

[faint flame]

anyways, what are the melee conditions for scouts

I know 1 fully charged shot to back of head, but is their any others

[minor fractal]

Full charge anywhere on the head, nowhere else.

[keen solar]

No…? Anywhere of the head

Doesn’t need to be the back

Just

[exotic lantern]

just dont hit the shoulder or neck

[faint flame]

ahh

thanks

[minor fractal]

Going from the back is also a really bad idea if you want consistent kills.

[exotic lantern]

or else you will go ???

[minor fractal]

Always be in-front of it.

[faint flame]

well, i did not know

[exotic lantern]

just say yolo run at it

you either throw hard or kill it

[hoary wedge]

does the melee have an arc or does it function more like a bullet

[exotic lantern]

ez practice

you can arc it

[minor fractal]

Depends on if you have a direct target or not.

If you do, hitscan, if you don't, does an arc.

[exotic lantern]

if you aim certain ways you can hit behind and in front of you with some manipulation

allows for things such as fast door breaks

nuggies shows that off really well

[minor fractal]

The most important thing is getting the targeting you want. If you go for hitscan, make sure you don't miss and get the arc. If you want the arc, make sure you're not accidentally aiming at something and getting the hitscan targetting.

[faint flame]

how would you guys kill bunched up sleepers solo

[tacit zealot]

Single tap chain

There used to be a guy in #gtfo-media who posted a bunch of C3 clips of him comboing

[minor fractal]

Be behind the second sleeper you wish to kill. Kill the first one normally, hit the other one in the head before it finishes turning around.

You have enough damage from the back to the head to kill without charging at all, which gives you fast kills.

Again, you position for the second kill so that you can go from the first kill into the second kill cleanly.

[faint flame]

ah ok

what happens if there is no chance of chain hitting

just wake the room

[tacit zealot]

If you're gonna wake them up regardless, mine door, or just circle kite and slowly. pick them off?

[minor fractal]

Extremely rare, or you can go for a half-charge or stagger-chain on the second sleeper.

[faint flame]

ahh, I guess this is just more of an experience thing

thanks

[shrewd dirge]

basically, drop solo to get a feel for it.

[faint flame]

yeah

any suggested solo drop off

I would do A1 but I don't really want to lose artifact heat

[shrewd dirge]

anything bright and without fog so, A1, A3.

[minor fractal]

They don't daisy-chain, btw. If you kill a sleeper, you only have to worry about the sleepers that wake up from that kill, the second, third, etc. kills won't bother anything, only your movement can wake more things up.

[shrewd dirge]

dont worry about heat.

[minor fractal]

^

Boosters are kinda lame, game's more fun ignoring them tbh.

[faint flame]

I mean I am just rerolling them

some day I might get a 100 infect res

[shrewd dirge]

triples only happen when sleepers are extremely close.

very rare.

[minor fractal]

Naw, triples aren't super rare, just uncommon.

[shrewd dirge]

or not common enough to matter

yeah

[minor fractal]

They're probably the threshold at which multi-kills are also still pretty easy if you have a handle on them.

Third sleeper you have enough time to stagger-chain rather than 0-charge, and the 0-charge time you get is very generous.

[shrewd dirge]

on the off chance you can get up to 4, but its unreasonably tight.

[faint flame]

so stagger chain is just stagger then kill

or just stagger till a mate kills it off

[shrewd dirge]

in terms of chaining:
Full charge, tap back of head of second. if combo stops, stop.
if 5 wake, start bonk fest.

[minor fractal]

To stagger chain, you need to hit the head, partial charge the body, and then swing again immediately.

Head destruction staggers, this gives you a window to charge enough to stagger again, and then the last hit is just to kill it.

[shrewd dirge]

if you miss, apply ^

[minor fractal]

Essentially, stagger chaining is to kill it while preventing it from screaming.

[shrewd dirge]

^

[minor fractal]

Also, charge first and ask questions later. If you don't actually need to charge, you can just shove to cancel.

Lets you save bad alerts or kill something you didn't think was alive but was.

[shrewd dirge]

always good to keep charging because you're not in solo, and there's a good chance everyone is bonking after the canopener.

you need to be around to catch other errant wakes from your mates.

if a giant is starting to wake, most decent parties will limb destruction on giants to stagger it to death.

[faint flame]

so just do body shots on giants

if awake

[shrewd dirge]

no, limb shots.

head arms legs.

[faint flame]

ah

[minor fractal]

You want to hit the individual destructible parts since this forces stagger on almost all enemies. It's also the longest form of stagger.

[faint flame]

damm

[minor fractal]

Duo giants is satisfying af, tbh.

[shrewd dirge]

definitely.

[minor fractal]

Wack, wack, wack, wack, like a well-oiled machine.

[shrewd dirge]

2 whacking chickens and hybrids is gr8/8 m8

[faint flame]

so 2 people can kill a giant without taking damage

[minor fractal]

Yes, and without an alert.

[faint flame]

wow

[minor fractal]

Essentially, one person hits after the other and you trade blows.

[faint flame]

is this full charge

[shrewd dirge]

2 hits to occ for big shooter (chicken)
3 hits for giant, must juggle 1 hit with other player.
yes, full circle.

[minor fractal]

You want roughly 70% to be safe.

It's pretty lenient, though.

[shrewd dirge]

more lenient from behind

[rigid sinew]

even solo is pretty easy

[minor fractal]

It only becomes an issue once you start getting to 4-5 hits, as you'll start running out of destructible limbs. As long as you open with full back damage, preferably to the head, it's very manageable.

I dunno about solo, feels pretty inconsistent to me.

[rigid sinew]

afaik the limbs are still there after destroyed

just invisible

[minor fractal]

You can't destroy them again, though.

[shrewd dirge]

solo is doable, its just, playing too many risks doing it unless they're already woke.

[minor fractal]

Also, they patched that for at least head, unsure if they fixed it for other limbs.

[faint flame]

if they are invisible do you still do damage?

[minor fractal]

Yes.

but for limbs that have their hitbox removed correctly you can't hit them and you can't do damage.

[strange berry]

does anyone know if the infected dudes have an AOE around them for sound alerts, or if its based on something else?

[distant ice]

i'm not sure what exactly you mean so i'll take a guess
enemies have a certain distance within which they can hear sounds, it's around 8 meters for most sounds you make (except guns and whatnot)

all enemy types, all poses have the same distance, the way they're looking doesn't matter either

[strange berry]

thats what I was asking

range of sound for alerts

and I assume then, that certain metals and doors ignore the range, IE. when they alert above you on a walkway

when youre underneath in fog with all of them squirtin and juicin

[distant ice]

line of sight can block noise, but it doesn't work for those grid catwalks and some other stuff

not sure how exactly to call it

[warm yew]

He may be asking if spitters can alert scouts

[strange berry]

no he answered it

but thats also a good question

its just sometimes I feel like my group alerts shit that shouldnt be alerted?

so was trying to dial in why

[distant ice]

best thing you can do is record

and either review yourself or let us look at it

[warm yew]

Ah, I thought infected dudes = Spitters, because it squirts infection

[strange berry]

I just wish I could kiss them instead of shoot them

😩

[distant ice]

well you can

you can also drink lava once

[exotic lantern]

wym

[topaz anvil]

Its true

[distant ice]

not sure what kind of explanation you expect to that

it's an old meme

[shrewd dirge]

you may slap it, once. ☝️

[neon gust]

Dick

[tropic ferry]

twice

that wasnt supposed to be a ping

whatever we double down @shrewd dirge

[regal canyon]

does anoyne know if an intel i7 11650g iris xe can run gtfo?

[distant ice]

this probably goes in #pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

[regal canyon]

alright

[lethal crown]

what do I need to open the D section ?

[minor fractal]

It should tell you on the Rundown screen?

6 high, 4 extreme, 1 overload.

Requires unique clears for each. You can't just beat A1 six times, you need to beat six different levels.

Your clears are tracked in the top right of the rundown screen, and each individual level lists the clears and objectives you have (1,1,0,0 is 1 high, 1 extreme, 0 overload, 0 prisoner efficiency).

[verbal sky]

From twitter:

"TOP 3 MAIN WEAPONS in R5 + Extended:

1. Malatack LX - 670k
2. Accrat ND6 - 650k
3. Shelling S49 - 530k"

Does it mean assault rifle is getting a nerf?

[neon gust]

???

How does that make any sense

Ar its finally in a good spot

After 2 years

Leave it be

[open hound]

Probably, not. The assault rifle is already pretty average, but not bad at all. Just outclassed

[verbal sky]

Stupid developers very often balance their games based on statistics.

They might think that assault needs a nerf

[open hound]

They may seem lazy, but definitely not stupid.

[neon gust]

Nah

They have bug hunters to do there balancing for them

[verbal sky]

are't bug hunters just un-paid QA and testers?

[neon gust]

Yeo

Wich makes it even more scary on balancing

Lel

Who knows maybe next primary will one shot a giant

[verbal sky]

If so, it seems that they are not better at this job than the developers themselves. If they are just gois who were fooled for their time and money

[open hound]

At least they play a game

[verbal sky]

I think the fact, that they are adding stamina is a good sign that they are not good at this. (at balancing and game direction)

[neon gust]

People who know 😩

People who dont know: 😋

A lot of the weapons are vaible nowdays

[verbal sky]

I am sure if some gaymer dudes can balance game with holding the game direction. It probably just a mess of opinions

[neon gust]

They did a good job in r5

Hel weponry still needs work

Same as heavy weaponry

[neon gust]

I mean i dunno how they administrate theyre stuff

But if its not controlled then it is most likely a mess

[verbal sky]

Most likely just some voting system, or so

[craggy pier]

#gtfo-ama-questions message

Ever going to have another AMA?

[neon gust]

Technically they did

Uramages was streaming with calle

The community manager and was answering some question

[verbal sky]

Either they have a mess there or listen only to one united and loud group of people. It couldn't be otherwise with voting

[craggy pier]

oh well

[neon gust]

It was a couple of weeks ago

I think

The vod still there i believe

[craggy pier]

ok thanks

[verbal sky]

I always thought that community managers should speak with the community without any intermediaries, and not through some trihard who have been playing for 10 years. I mean it is cool and all that they talk to people who are in the inner circle of community, but still

[desert falcon]

Im not sure what you are talking about, you could literally dm him if you wanted to, not sure how it could be any more direct.

[distant ice]

This dude is drawing conclusions of books by reading one random sentence in them

[craggy pier]

most meta secondary right now?

[verbal sky]

your mom

[craggy pier]

Funny one

[verbal sky]

And you havent yet heard any of my jokes about N_lacks

[craggy pier]

[desert falcon]

most likely Hel rifle, rly strong rn. but no idea whats considered meta tbf

[craggy pier]

thanks!

[verbal sky]

Blacks

smith

[craggy pier]

are you okay ?

[verbal sky]

are you a Blacksmith?

[neon gust]

Ah i csn feel edge from here

Just like my man duck said

You can DM him freely

Calle its a good man

He carry this entire community on his back

[verbal sky]

"Crawling in my skin" or whatever the lyrics of this song begins with

[neon gust]

Would i be a tryhard of 10 years if i speak to him

On a stream

Or on dms?

[verbal sky]

If you can ask him to join your stream and make an ama, and he agrees because he knows you - yes

[amber osprey]

Calle just joined the company

what are you on about?

[verbal sky]

and you are probably played the game for more than a year for sure

[verbal sky]

Go make a sword for your lord, mr blacksmith

[amber osprey]

idk man

you're saying like they know each other

They didn't since Calle just joined at the time

[verbal sky]

but how do I know? I am not a blacksmith

[verbal sky]

I'm sure the current CM is doing the work of the gods and good luck with that. The question was about something else

[amber osprey]

I mean at the end of the day man, you just can ask it yourself, but he probably won't talk about stuff that's currently in dev

[verbal sky]

Oh, is that 4 real? I think you will do better if you tell me a couple of facts about your blacksmith's life, at least you wont make a fool of yourself. I heard blacksmiths like rap, is that true?

[timid compass]

Let's move on from this conversation, as it's turning into an argument. 🙂

[verbal sky]

agreed. but still @amber osprey DM me some fat facts 🙂

[minor fractal]

Special weapons are highly situational.

You want to take them with a particular purpose in mind, primarily based on the level and what teammates are packing.

[craggy pier]

ahh i see right now im still struggling on A3 lmao

matchmaking doesnt seem to work for me tho in game

[minor fractal]

LFG is better.

[amber osprey]

Also be mindful of the Ammo synergy between primary and Special, two low ammo weapons can cripple you badly if you're not that clean on those shots

[minor fractal]

Matchmaking has low activity and tends to fill with pretty low caliber players.

[minor fractal]

It's kind of the opposite, or at least not completely accurate to describe it that way?

[amber osprey]

Two low ammo weapons force you to be more accurate while firing, I don't see how it's not really accurate :o

[craggy pier]

iv mainly been playing TR22 HANAWAY + Buckland AF6

[minor fractal]

Your main weapon is a general use weapon that can be specialized, but otherwise should compliment your special weapon. So, Sniper isn't really low ammo, the problem is that you will have long periods where you don't have anything to spend sniper ammo on, which is why you want to run pistol or HSMG. If you have a weapon where you cannot efficiently spend its ammo for all fights, you want a high-efficiency weapon to pair with it so that your main weapon doesn't run out of ammo.

[craggy pier]

i see

[amber osprey]

DMR + Shotgun

[minor fractal]

That loadout should work. DMR is good for both fast clear and stagger support, it should make up for the fact that shotgun burns ammo quickly if used for horde clear. Gives you a good single-target and multi-target spread, as well.

[craggy pier]

awesome :D

[amber osprey]

Tool is also a good thing to take into account when planning a mission

[craggy pier]

yea me and my other friend usually go foam + mines

but with 2 we struggle with the class 5 doors

[neon gust]

Less go

[neon gust]

If you wany a more safer loudout bring dmr and combat shotty

You have good stagger and you can deal with pretty much anything

[amber osprey]

I think AF6 is combat shotgun

[minor fractal]

I'm more of an AR CS guy.

[neon gust]

Hella ammo he gonna have

[minor fractal]

Better chip damage.

[neon gust]

Thats even more safe than mines

But im assuming he just likes semis so o said dmr

Ar cs its such a good combo

Cover the most common distances and its versatile

[craggy pier]

what is the CS?

[topaz anvil]

Combat shotgun

[minor fractal]

Both weapons have good body damage, both weapons have at least decent kill efficiency, both weapons can be used to stagger, both weapons are situationally good for single and multi-target damage, both weapons can provide chip damage and can follow one another up, AR lets you get kills and deal damage over a sustained amount of time due to its good range and short reload, and CS gives you a ton of burst damage over 12 shots against things that either close in on you or which you can close in on.

AR + CS is just two already very strong weapons that synergize extremely well.

DMR is definitely stronger individually, but just doesn't synergize quite as well imo.

[finite plinth]

matchmaking good

[shrewd dirge]

matchmaking bad

[tropic ferry]

matchmaking

[finite plinth]

biggest good

[neon gust]

Makingmatch

[keen solar]

Sounds like an adaptation of breaking bad

[finite plinth]

trust in matchmaking buddies

[hoary wedge]

Does the game round your health values?

Or does it show rounded percentages while keeping track of more exact values?

[wary linden]

if you can survived at 0% some hits i'd say the last one

though might be something else that makes you survive that 🤔

[distant ice]

Show rounded, track exact (ish)

[hoary wedge]

.0 or .00 % ?

[distant ice]

The tracking part?

[hoary wedge]

Yeah

[distant ice]

It's all floats

[tardy rain]

guys what was the command in the computer thingy to locate items

[steel valley]

list

[floral acorn]

query item

[steel valley]

or ping

idk what you mean by locate

[tardy rain]

ok

[floral acorn]

if in the same zone, ping item

[tardy rain]

thanks

yeah uhm

im kind of playing the game alone

because i have no friends to play with

and also dont know much

[distant ice]

.t lfg

[uneven gulch]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[glass sand]

does sprinting near a scout alarm it?

[rigid sinew]

yes

no...

wait...i think it just makes it deploy its feelers

I'm not sure

[tardy ingot]

it makes it deploy its feelers

but wont wake it up

[glass sand]

okay makes sense

[neon gust]

Shooting wont trigger the scout

It will pull its feelers out

[tropic ferry]

dragon why must you do this to beginners

[gleaming cradle]

its tradition

[tropic ferry]

no

tradition is saying hack tool makes scans faster

[gleaming cradle]

okk i meant its trolling

[tropic ferry]

no
trolling is saying hack tool makes scans faster

[gleaming cradle]

wait-

thats illegal

[tropic ferry]

no
illegal is saying hack tool makes scans faster

[gleaming cradle]

u can't go both sides

oh dang

u played me

i feel embarresed

[tropic ferry]

thats ok

simply bully dragon and everything is better

[weary mesa]

At least he didn’t say being between enemies gets rid of LOS

[topaz anvil]

Why bully dragon when you can bully mac

[tropic ferry]

good question

[topaz anvil]

When R7 when

[glass sand]

yes ofc

[spark wolf]

average character model los block believer

[neon gust]

I mean that is tru tho

With boosters

Tradition would be

You can only kill scouts with theyre tentacles out

[neon gust]

Now i bully you feeling dumb uh?

Poopoo

[distant ice]

Haven't ever heard that

But commonly heard people wondering whether having feelers out gives them armor or more health etc

[tropic ferry]

really?

never heard that one

i have heard you can only kill the scout to the back of the head

[covert apex]

fody told me it's true

so ur lying

[tropic ferry]

oh did he

i guess its right then

i didnt know about that ive been avoiding it

[covert apex]

nah it works trust

[tropic ferry]

ofc it works

[covert apex]

i spent 300 hours testing it

[tropic ferry]

you just said fody said it

[distant ice]

Idk i remember the armor thing from R1

Maybe feelers looked like they'd stop bullets and tangle hammers n shit

[neon gust]

Im trying to query yo dick on the terminal

Says ite cannot be listed

[tropic ferry]

[neon gust]

BOOM

Shakalka

Destroyed

[tropic ferry]

you cant query it you dont have the id

[neon gust]

YOU DIED

[tropic ferry]

only your mom has that

[neon gust]

OOOOHHH SHIIIIT

OOOOOOHHHHH SHIIIIIIIEEEET

[distant ice]

#gtfo-related-questions

[neon gust]

IM DEAD

GTFO-RELATED-ROAST

[wanton gorge]

will this game support full VR when it gets final/full release??

[keen solar]

No

Don’t even think about it

Will probably kick you out of the team if I know you are using VR for high tier level missions (because thats worse than trolling)

[ruby wasp]

For a game that relies on reactivity & stupid ass motion mechanics, forget about VR

[keen solar]

We had someone who tried. He gave negative feedback on how he cannot complete the rundown with VR

We were like, what?

[ruby wasp]

I've met such people too

[topaz anvil]

VR is an interesting experience for a group of friends on low difficulty levels, but realistically you wouldn't play the entire game on VR

[ruby wasp]

It's like playing with someone with a brain latency of 5s

[keen solar]

Bigdatez even deleted all gtfo VR content on his stream 😂😂😂

[ruby wasp]

without considering the 10% accuracy ofc

[keen solar]

I love that for him

If you buy the game just to play on VR, it’s better to refund

[ruby wasp]

Such a shame that this game could be amazing with VR in theory

but it'd need a complete rework of the mechanics

[keen solar]

Imagine do a full dive like Ready play one or Sword art online kekw

[topaz anvil]

If you die in GTFO, you die in real life

[keen solar]

Love that

I will call Bigdatez to come back and play

[topaz anvil]

R6 timer when >:c

[keen solar]

Never

Just a myth

[ruby wasp]

Ah yes

start the level

lose because someone clipped through the ground

everyone die IRL

gg

[keen solar]

Love that

[topaz anvil]

It would be really cool if the timer showed up tomorrow after the updat

[ruby wasp]

u p d a t e ?

[topaz anvil]

yeah to remove orang glowstick

[ruby wasp]

wow

very epic

They'll add white glowsticks for Xmas instead

[topaz anvil]

no, but more red glowsticks

[ruby wasp]

Let's fight santa tank

[keen solar]

My prediction is: we might get a timer like R2 where it shows random code

And they gradually change it to a date

[topaz anvil]

Thats what happened with R5 too

[desert falcon]

would be pretty sick if it actually changed gradually; from r4 to r5 it just switched one day

[keen solar]

You know, like how the new FNAF game releases an promote episode weekly then the last episode shows the release date

[topaz anvil]

???? there was a countdown timer and everything from a random code and then a definite countdown

[desert falcon]

I meant it like: Would be cool if it changed over time from the random code to actual numbers. Because from r4 to r5 they just changed from 'random code' to 'actual countdown' one day, without any changes in between ^^ Didn't mean that they just switched to r5 one day randomly 😄

[vivid plank]

OKAY so me and my friend have been trying to hack at GTFO A1 for like 2 days now, we've tried aggressive, stealth, everything, and we've made it to the ZONE_65 door so we can exfiltrate a ton now, going so far as to buy us a ton of time. We don't want to deal with randoms even though I know its is meant for more than 2 people but its ridiculous. We went through all of the effort to block off the doors with a C-foam grenade, get the doors protected with trip mines, and we had sentries set up at the C-Foam door, everything. And yet after we cleared all of the red scans it brought us a SECOND ROW OF SCANS, we had to go down there and do the other scans and by then they had broken through the doors. Why was there a second set of scans, why didnt the damn zone door open?

[rigid sinew]

multi scan alarms

[keen solar]

Kekw

[rigid sinew]

:ujel:

[keen solar]

Reading is important???

[gleaming cradle]

It's class 3

[rigid sinew]

no

[vivid plank]

oh so class 3 and above have multiple scans?

[rigid sinew]

ye

[keen solar]

Class 3 = 3 sets of scans

[gleaming cradle]

Ye

[keen solar]

Team scan, set 1 and set 2

Just like how class 2 has two sets of scans

[vivid plank]

should I bring the C-Foam launcher to barracade the rest of the doors? we need to buy time to even do the scans

[keen solar]

Just one door :3

[gleaming cradle]

C foam the outside door and the door which is under the stairs

[vivid plank]

We C-Foamed the door and they broke through it by the 2nd scan

[keen solar]

I don’t wanna explain the whole mechanics

[gleaming cradle]

Place mines and ur good

[vivid plank]

isnt that the point of the question channel?

[keen solar]

They will only break the bottom door that is inside the tunnel if you close all doors

Can you let me finish?

Jesus

[gleaming cradle]

Hehe

[exotic lantern]

zzz

[gleaming cradle]

E

[exotic lantern]

gtfo questions more like gtfo related bickering over mechanics B)

[keen solar]

You can keep reapplying foam on the same door

[vivid plank]

OH SERIOUSLY?

so its just infinitely blocked

[gleaming cradle]

Yea that's big brain strats

[exotic lantern]

if you have infinite tool ammo yes

however at some point it is no longer worth it to apply foam

instead just kill the wave

except C3 Extreme fuck C3 Ext

[keen solar]

I have tried to overly explain the wave mechanics too many times to Twitch streamers

[gleaming cradle]

U just re apply c foam untill ur fren finishes the scans

[keen solar]

They can’t understand and blame me on explaining to them and confuse them lol

[vivid plank]

in that case would it be better to bring 2 c foam things?

[exotic lantern]

for what level

[keen solar]

A1

[exotic lantern]

no

you dont even need cfoam

you can do the level with 4 sentries LOL

[vivid plank]

I need to buy time for the 3 scans

[keen solar]

He is doing as a duo

[gleaming cradle]

Eyy I like C3 ext tho :(

[keen solar]

Or she

[vivid plank]

Duo

he

thank you

[exotic lantern]

just bring mine cfoam

[vivid plank]

mine and c foam

got it

[exotic lantern]

dont bother wasting foam on first alarm

[keen solar]

Because he doesn’t wanna play with randoms

[exotic lantern]

mine first door

holdon

I have a spread sheet for this

[vivid plank]

oh shit thatll work

[keen solar]

Just

[exotic lantern]

just bring mine cfoam weps dont matter unless youre trying to min max..

[keen solar]

Foam the door and put a mine horizontally on the door frame…

That’s all you need to do…

[vivid plank]

min max?

[exotic lantern]

yes

[vivid plank]

oh yeah

[keen solar]

Well good luck

Get better and read text

[vivid plank]

one final question tho

[keen solar]

It’s important

[vivid plank]

so I know itll buy time to cfoam the door before, then should I mine and just repeat cfoam the understairs?

[exotic lantern]

for last alarm?

[vivid plank]

yes for the class 3

[keen solar]

The moment you hear banging

[vivid plank]

we dont need to worry about the other alarms at all its just that

[exotic lantern]

they should only realistically come through bottom door?

[keen solar]

It’s the time you should go foaming

[vivid plank]

aight

[vivid plank]

and what text lmao, its not like there was a tutorial

[gleaming cradle]

When the wave reaches u and starts breaking the door then go ahead and re apply c foam on it

[exotic lantern]

skill issue

[keen solar]

Read the door?

[exotic lantern]

welcome to gtfo community

the devs may not give you a tutorial

but we wont either

[keen solar]

If you read it, the first question wouldn’t be needed to ask lol

[vivid plank]

fair enough

the Class 3 part didn't specify 3 seperate scans

[keen solar]

But you did a class 2

You should at least know what will happen?

[vivid plank]

No the door for ZONE_63 is a class 1

Only one scan set

[keen solar]

62?

[vivid plank]

63

[exotic lantern]

there are no class 1's iirc

[keen solar]

That’s a class 2 bruh

[exotic lantern]

only security scans, class 2 and up

[keen solar]

Team scan and a set of scans

[vivid plank]

wuh

OH SHIT

you mean the team scan

FUCK

[exotic lantern]

lmaooo

[keen solar]

Sigh

[vivid plank]

okay yeah im dumb

[gleaming cradle]

Bruh the alarm in the dark zone with the cell is class 2

[vivid plank]

okay yeah thats my bad I completely forgot about that

[exotic lantern]

if you think A1 is hard though

[keen solar]

I hope

[vivid plank]

well in that case there's really only 2 scan sets I even need to worry about, thatll be easy

[exotic lantern]

wait till you meet A2 LOL

[keen solar]

English is not your first language

[vivid plank]

we just need to work on it

[exotic lantern]

koopa 💀

[gleaming cradle]

A2 is easier than A1 shush

[vivid plank]

And why is that?

[exotic lantern]

a2 is more fun than A1 as well

[topaz anvil]

A2 just isn't fun

[gleaming cradle]

Ye

[exotic lantern]

cap

[topaz anvil]

Wait

no A3

[exotic lantern]

a2 is fun fym

i wouldnt have done 400 resets if i wasnt having fun

😭

[gleaming cradle]

A2 is best A tier imo

[keen solar]

You forget the fact that bmo is a2 runner

[rigid sinew]

nah, A3 pe

[gleaming cradle]

B3 is best B tier

[rigid sinew]

[exotic lantern]

literally got kaneki to play A2 with me just for old times sake..

[gleaming cradle]

B3 is best girl

[keen solar]

B3 is the best

[topaz anvil]

B2 PE is best B tier

smh

[exotic lantern]

B3

anyways

any a2ers?

[vivid plank]

I am afraid of what comes later because seriously if A2 and above is harder than A1 this is some for the worthy bullshit

[rigid sinew]

C1 😩

[vivid plank]

I look forward to it

[topaz anvil]

Best levels in Tier are:

A2, B2, C3, D2, E1

[exotic lantern]

tryna get that 4:59 ? 😳

[gleaming cradle]

C1 is cursed that's all ill say

[keen solar]

Well you made your choice to play duo. And it’s gonna be like that

[exotic lantern]

A2 PE duo is honestly super fun

[keen solar]

Either you are going to learn and master all mechanics in a week or find a full team

[exotic lantern]

especially if you choose to kill ||the mom||

[vivid plank]

WELLL on the bright side we do have a POSSIBLE trio, we got a guy who might be getting it

[keen solar]

Kekw

[rigid sinew]

or quit

[vivid plank]

worst case scenario ill just buy him it

[keen solar]

Or quit yeah

[vivid plank]

I dont quit

[exotic lantern]

lmao

[vivid plank]

thats lame

[exotic lantern]

wait until you play C1

LOL

[rigid sinew]

trolololo

[keen solar]

I don’t see a possible outcome of beginners to finish E1 as a trio

Kekw

[exotic lantern]

true

[vivid plank]

simple

[gleaming cradle]

Eyy don't scare them

[vivid plank]

we wont become beginners >:)

[keen solar]

Kekw good luck

Don’t let A level fools you

[vivid plank]

also there ARE other kinds of enemies besides sleepers right?

[topaz anvil]

I don't see most players beating E1 in general

[exotic lantern]

koopa come get 4:59 with me

😳

[keen solar]

Nuh

[exotic lantern]

why not

[vivid plank]

oh

[keen solar]

Hate A2 speedrun

[exotic lantern]

its only 1 in a million chance

rng is in our favor

[keen solar]

B3 is my babe

[gleaming cradle]

Yea you'll see in b1

[vivid plank]

ok cool

[topaz anvil]

and in a2 technically

[exotic lantern]

depending on if scan cucks you

[vivid plank]

and finally is there any point at all really to do bulkheads, I heard the rewards were good so technically we could

[keen solar]

[topaz anvil]

Optional sectors unlock deeper tiers

[exotic lantern]

oweenie bud you wanna do some A2 rq?

[vivid plank]

id be fine with that actually

[keen solar]

Kekw

[vivid plank]

my friend is the one who doesnt like randoms

really im fine as long as yall are chill

[exotic lantern]

quad

A2?

[keen solar]

You can ask him to play A2 speedrun kekw

[topaz anvil]

This community is small enough that everyone will eventually not be randoms

[exotic lantern]

not A2 speed

[topaz anvil]

shut

[exotic lantern]

casual A2 PE

😳

[vivid plank]

fair enough

I really do with the community were bigger tho, GTFO is a fucking awesome game

[exotic lantern]

I dont wanna go fast today

only brisk

[vivid plank]

Ive been failing over and over and I still love it tbh

[exotic lantern]

if the community was bigger

[rigid sinew]

the gimmick is certainly not for everyone, but still fun

[exotic lantern]

i can only imagine all the complaining

[keen solar]

We have enough newbies to jump and complain about game hard because they are playing duo

[exotic lantern]

this game really is for a niche audience

[vivid plank]

true

[exotic lantern]

shut

[vivid plank]

kinda like ultrakill

[gleaming cradle]

Define niche

[topaz anvil]

EA + Hard game + lack of localisation + noone wanting to socialise with randoms = smol playerbase

[vivid plank]

oh shush

[exotic lantern]

niche for a subset of people who hate themselves

ie

[vivid plank]

hol up GTFO is an EA game?

[exotic lantern]

gtfo players

[topaz anvil]

ye

[exotic lantern]

early access

B)

[topaz anvil]

:)

[vivid plank]

oh thank fuck

[keen solar]

You have a month long to finish this Rundown

[vivid plank]

I thought you meant EA the gaming company

[keen solar]

So have fun with that

[topaz anvil]

hell no

[keen solar]

Cuz they are coming out as full release this year

[vivid plank]

ooooh

[keen solar]

It’s either on their anniversary or Christmas

[vivid plank]

I did see the rundown exclusive thing

what is a rundown

[keen solar]

[topaz anvil]

A rundown is just the set of levels available

[keen solar]

I will leave that to you guys kekw

[vivid plank]

Oh so it randomizes every so often?

understandable

[exotic lantern]

not random

[topaz anvil]

It's like a season

[exotic lantern]

^

changes every so often

new levels

new lore

new tile sets

[keen solar]

#rundown trailer

[topaz anvil]

The condition is that you can never access the old rundowns

[exotic lantern]

lore

[topaz anvil]

.rundown

[keen solar]

New weapons new lores new tools

[exotic lantern]

[topaz anvil]

.t rundown

[uneven gulch]

For information on what the Rundowns are and how they work, take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHZwiPVOVvA

[exotic lantern]

.t rundown

[uneven gulch]

For information on what the Rundowns are and how they work, take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHZwiPVOVvA

[keen solar]

New enemies

[vivid plank]

oh okay sick, kinda adds some vintage to it

[keen solar]

Kekw

[exotic lantern]

new lore

[topaz anvil]

A2 Lore

A2 Lore

[vivid plank]

aight lemme load up GTFO

bmo we calling?

[exotic lantern]

nah we will hop in pub vc

[topaz anvil]

GTFO-1 moment 😳

[exotic lantern]

give me a sec

[vivid plank]

ye

[keen solar]

Well enjoy

Gonna get lunch

[tribal pivot]

good evening. If I buy the game in early access, will I get the final version of the game?

[distant ice]

Yes ofc

[hoary wedge]

Are there any dev plans to make the map mark items you find or allow you to make notes on the map?

[distant ice]

It's a popular suggestion and natural idea + on the map legend there are markers for resources (been there since the beginning)
But devs don't usually explicitly confirm things like this before they come

I'd say it's something they want to have but low priority

[gleaming cradle]

It's a surprise obvi

[nimble summit]

When is their anniversary?

[distant ice]

EA release date is December 9

[sage belfry]

There's also a possibility that they preparing something for The Game Awards

[covert apex]

Sources?

[distant ice]

@covert apex answering this question

It's when R1 launched

Not full game date

[warm yew]

#patch-notes message

[covert apex]

Oh, confused myself for a bit, sorry

[nimble shuttle]

you were able to ping regular enemies in gtfo right?

[topaz anvil]

With a biotracker yes

[exotic lantern]

you were previously but with the introduction of the bio they removed the function as it nullified the use of bio

🤨

[nimble shuttle]

sadge

[celest bough]

Are rundowns within the same tier (IE A1 and A2) the same difficulty, or do they increase left to right as well as top to bottom?

[desert falcon]

They should be about the same difficulty for each tier, not increasing with the numbers as well.

[celest bough]

Rog, thanks

[topaz anvil]

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[modest nest]

Got it thank ya

[topaz anvil]

Pog

[faint flame]

I got a bonk in before you deleted it

also was their a nerf during R5

[topaz anvil]

nerf on what

[faint flame]

idk, i been watching fiiireblade and some of his videos IE A2 has a pre-nerf tag

[covert apex]

Yes

Couple levels received a nerf

such as A2, C2 from what i remember of the top of my head

[faint flame]

any logs to what got nerfed

[covert apex]

D1 received a change as well

[topaz anvil]

A1 got nerfed too

B1 too

C1 as well I think

more or less every level got a nerf

[faint flame]

what happened for a overall nerf

[topaz anvil]

Mostly stuff like cocoon placements

[faint flame]

did they spam respawn rooms everywhere?

[topaz anvil]

You should've seen A1

pre nerf

:^)

[desert falcon]

c2 high got its cocoons removed from the gen cluster for example

[topaz anvil]

Which is a shame

[desert falcon]

yup

[faint flame]

what was A1 before nerf

[topaz anvil]

z61 was full of cocoons

[desert falcon]

but that was one of the rooms where you left someone behind to block on c2

and they obviously didnt want that

[topaz anvil]

Or you played it properly

It's a scout, it's not hard to deal with

[faint flame]

so A1 extreme was more cancer

[topaz anvil]

A1 Extreme didn't get changed

[desert falcon]

yeah but playing properly is slightly harder in that case ^^

[topaz anvil]

Less boring tho

aand harder is the point

[faint flame]

we are mostly slaves to meta tho

[topaz anvil]

Why do you think they decided to implement team scans

for uplinks

[desert falcon]

C1 baby!

[topaz anvil]

To stop people camping

[desert falcon]

best thing was in my first tries for c1 somebody actively stayed behind and we kept going: "yo, just come with us, we don't need to block and its lame" But he just insisted to block

[topaz anvil]

C1 is the level where people realised they suck at stealth and didnt want to admit it

[neon gust]

its not even that bad

you kill 2 scouts

scan is like 2 min with 4 man team

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respawn room giving free nitro

[timid compass]

Thanks for the heads up!

[spark wolf]

A1 extreme did get changed

they made it less likely that you need all 3 zones

it was 50% before

[topaz anvil]

oh yeah that happened

[floral acorn]

a2 scout was in 16 not 19?

[minor fractal]

Still pretty poorly implemented, imo, since you have to clear that room. It rewards you for spawn blocking if you alert it at any point.

C1 would have been a lot better if the first respawn room could just be left alone if you didn't want to clear it.

[topaz anvil]

You clear it once

lel

[minor fractal]

Yeah, so if you alert it at the start you're best off spawn blocking until you do the S.

[topaz anvil]

Which is boring

[neon gust]

You guys really think spawn blocking its a feature uh

[minor fractal]

Exactly.

[neon gust]

crazy "reward"

[minor fractal]

It's optimized and unfun, which is bad design.

[topaz anvil]

it's a trinket 😔

[flat rock]

Spawn blocking best feature Dragon wym

[neon gust]

its your problem if your doing it

your ruining your own experience

[flat rock]

It shows a high amount of game knowledge and skill

Stop hating on my play style

[neon gust]

Literally kill both scouts and do the scans

its 10 min

unless you suck at crouching

shit you can pull the giant room with the scan if you want a challenge

[flat rock]

It's even faster if you have eyeballs and can look around you

And even faster than that if you know how to hold mouse 1 and release it

[neon gust]

spawnblocking or not still you clear it once, just show that people dont have some degree of patience