gtfo-chat

[worthy flicker]

Idk, I like 4, just not as much as I like 2

[lost lynx]

Game finished

[pastel dagger]

4 is really boring and quite cringe

gunplay better

[lost lynx]

Games end after a while you know

[pastel dagger]

thats it

[round cargo]

I bought it before realising the game stopped being dev

[lunar island]

They started working on their next game, DoW

[round cargo]

could've at least fixed matchmaking....

the matchmaking is ASS

[brisk solar]

they are doing a diffrent game

[lost lynx]

It's "fixed" wdym

[round cargo]

no its it

I keep on being

[worthy flicker]

Gunplay better, I like the funny little scooter, but I think p2 has a better vibe and atmosphere.

[lunar island]

Matchmaking is a trap.
Was dead before it was even added

[pastel dagger]

its much better than it was and actually works now

[round cargo]

shoved into like the newest map

[pastel dagger]

its jank tho yes

[lunar island]

We used discord for YEARS prior to it

[round cargo]

even tho Im like brand new

[lunar island]

Nobody was ever gonna swap over

[lost lynx]

Well
People use discord anyways in coop games

[pastel dagger]

yea, u played paradise lost?

[lost lynx]

The division, Destiny, DRG, etc

[round cargo]

eh good point

[lunar island]

Only people who use IGMM now are newbies who don't know better and hackers banned from this server

[round cargo]

not for the division

I play that game

and still loads of people

still just spam help

on the agent request thing

[lost lynx]

Unfortunate
Should solo all content

[brisk solar]

ready or not anyone know it

[round cargo]

ye

[worthy flicker]

Oh yeah, I've been playing postal for like 13 years I think

[pastel dagger]

and good players

[round cargo]

met someone called skooby jew for some reason

[lunar island]

Ready or not has ass performance

[worthy flicker]

It was one of my first pc games

[lost lynx]

another game optimized like shit

[round cargo]

nah its fine

[lunar island]

Shame because gameplay is actually pretty good

[lost lynx]

Good game tho

[worthy flicker]

Tbh

RoN disappoints me

[lost lynx]

YES

[round cargo]

needs more content

its just a loop

[worthy flicker]

It feels like it's more about larp then like, actually being cops or something

[lunar island]

I mean nothing is compared to Rainbow Six 3, but still

That game came out 20 years ago and is STILL the peak

[round cargo]

teamkill

[pastel dagger]

wow just like postal

makes u think

[worthy flicker]

You can dress up 9 gajillion ways with 4 billion guns that all feel kind of the same but the AI still reacts like garbage and there's still no real differentiation between how a crackhead and a trained soldier act

[lost lynx]

The crackhead taking 4 shots to the chest

[worthy flicker]

Crack does give you superpowers

[round cargo]

50/50 chance that a thug has ass aim or has better aim then swat sniper

[pastel dagger]

i mean he is on crack

lore reasons

[lunar island]

Nah, in rainbow the crackhead takes 1 and you take 1. Wallbanging simulator

[lost lynx]

Crackheads used to be John wick level

[pastel dagger]

so hotline miami

[worthy flicker]

Yes tbh

[lost lynx]

Scary

[round cargo]

also isn't this chat for GTFO?

[pastel dagger]

whats that

a dead game?

[worthy flicker]

But unironically the old rainbow six games and swat 4 are better then RoN is

[worthy flicker]

Do you have a question about gtfo?

[round cargo]

nah

lol

[worthy flicker]

Then who cares

[round cargo]

just checking

[lost lynx]

I just want more unique art styles games

Everything looks the same

[lunar island]

Nobody will ever convince me six 3 was not the best. You could make an argument for vegas 2... but it's close

[pastel dagger]

i have a question about gtfo

[lost lynx]

Animations look the same

[lunar island]

I can answer lore questions

[pastel dagger]

why did og schaeffer go crazy

[worthy flicker]

Vegas 2 is my pick tbh, but it's the one I have more nostalgia for

[lost lynx]

Ur mom

[worthy flicker]

So, what the fuck is a neonate

[lunar island]

That probably plays a part. I played the shit out of 6 3 as a kid with my OG xbox

[lunar island]

A baby

[worthy flicker]

Like

Actually?

[lunar island]

Neonate. Neonatal unit.

[worthy flicker]

Or test tubed?

[lunar island]

As from where they were sourced? Usually test tubes

[lost lynx]

Hackett's baby

[lunar island]

They had multiple purposes

[worthy flicker]

Iirc they were our replacements

Our being the KSOs

[pastel dagger]

is triple barreled sawed off having 4 shots in mag a part of the lore

[lunar island]

Intended to be, but RISE was never finished.

[worthy flicker]

This shit pisses me off so much

[lunar island]

The warden used the leftovers to make the conduits

[brisk solar]

it has 4?

[pastel dagger]

yeah

[lunar island]

Nah. Neither is hel revolver having magic bullets

[worthy flicker]

I tbh don't know what a conduit is really

[brisk solar]

now i i have to try itt

[pastel dagger]

i told u

its a good gun now

one of the best main weapons

[worthy flicker]

I don't pay an insane amount of attention to the fine details of what we're doing in GTFO, normally too busy shooting things.

[lunar island]

Basically, the warden took the neonates intended for RISE and turned them into what it calls the conduit, a conduit for communication, to talk to us, mainly schaeffer

In OG schaeffer bashed the conduit's brains in with a pipe

In ALT://, schaeffer listened to it

[honest parrot]

I mean our weapons are magic
--Sniper has a huge as mag yet only has 2 bullets
--Pump shotguns don't even pump
--Hel rev and sawed off having more bullets than we load for some reason
--For whatever reason, the name for scatter suggests it has 3 shots, but it has two in game

[lost lynx]

Bethesda guns

[round cargo]

the mags look either too tiny or too big

[worthy flicker]

Wait wait wait, to talk to us?

[honest parrot]

The pistol mags are mostly fine

The rest really aren't

[lost lynx]

Some of GTFO gun designs overall feel off

[worthy flicker]

I thought Warden was just an AI like, feeding us data? Why does it need a middle man?

[lunar island]

Yes.

[lost lynx]

Some of them dont make sense

[lunar island]

Listen to the alt://r6d1 conversation it had with schaeffer

[worthy flicker]

When I get there

I'm on R4E1 rn

Dark and Red

[lunar island]

You are probably thinking of biocom, the system the warden took over. The warden is an alien

[worthy flicker]

Oh

Well

That's new

[brisk solar]

in the og r6 didnt schaeffer talked in a1?

[lunar island]

Haha... just read the "for dummies" documents in the pins of the lore channel

Start with the .pdf

Then the .txt

[worthy flicker]

See but then these things aren't surprises anymore

[lunar island]

None of it spoils gameplay stuff

[worthy flicker]

Let me ask you a timeline thing rq

Is warden the thing waking us up every time?

[lunar island]

More than half of the audio from ogr6 was deleted. Some of it was moved to terminals

Community complained about "lore being forced on them"

[lost lynx]

Yeah
The game intro sequence is what the warden sees

[lunar island]

The consequences of your actions

[lost lynx]

When you have the flashing pictures and stuff

[lunar island]

Yes

[worthy flicker]

So what is that intro

[lunar island]

Pable, fetch the picture

[worthy flicker]

And is warden just an insert for "the player"?

[lunar island]

Looking through the eye

I'm on my phone and doing dishes

[lunar island]

No

[brisk solar]

after r8 i think that every time you play you are the same group but diffrent realty

[lunar island]

KSOs are like biological slaves... but we have some minor degree of free will

We aren't under anyone's control in a couple missions of r8

[lost lynx]

I don't have the pic

[lunar island]

Under biocom, before the warden, we had none at all

Basically robots

[brisk solar]

r8 is a story of 2 groups

[worthy flicker]

So the warden isn't just a clever insert for the player by having you click play then control the mechanically enslaved biological?

[round cargo]

Quick question, is there any lore reason why we don't start off with max ammo?

[lunar island]

#gtfo-lore message

[worthy flicker]

I'm not even sure there's a lore reason we get different guns

[brisk solar]

play r7c3

[round cargo]

alr

thx

[brisk solar]

you will love that you start with 50 persnt max ammo after that lvl

[pastel dagger]

could be just like a standard client care package like in void bastards

another good single player game

[daring ginkgo]

Yes

[brisk solar]

do you know the secret comands? i started the game to test the sawed off

[pastel dagger]

what do u mean

just boot up r3d1

[brisk solar]

very well

oh d1

[pastel dagger]

tip for stealth it two shots giants in the back

full mag for front

[brisk solar]

ill just shot until i die

[pastel dagger]

ye

just to get the feel of it

[brisk solar]

no bots ill see how far

[pastel dagger]

its actually kind of a special weapon

i like combat shotgun into smalls and sawed off into bigs and hybrids

but either work

[brisk solar]

one sec im in the lvl

wow

it was better then i thoght

sawed off iam sorry for saying that you are bad

[daring ginkgo]

Do not disrespect 1st/2nd best main weapon

[mellow hedge]

sawed off is juicy

[wide steeple]

Number 13 in #rules. I can't play old versions with friends even if we all have same old game build?

[gusty burrow]

If you're doing it with friends no one is going to care.

The point of the rule is to keep the whole community that is using this server on the same page so everyone can easily play and join others.

[honest parrot]

Do keep in mind if you do have the older versions, you can't play with people on the current versions
...And don't be that one guy that accidentally updates his game

(at least, I'm pretty sure you can't play with people on current)

[wide steeple]

Yeah that should be obvious for all that you cant play with others on different versions. Asked only about everyone has same version

[honest parrot]

Ye just saying
There have been people that came into tech support asking about it before

Better be safe than sorry about that

[wide steeple]

Ty anyways

Oh, and how can I access old versions btw? :D

[honest parrot]

I believe some sites have downloads for it?

That's all I know of unfortunately
The base game itself has... well, frankly too much issues for me to wrap my head around already that I haven't had much time to look into that side of things

[wide steeple]

I see, so no point to play them as a new guy?

[gusty burrow]

real quick: why do you want to play old version of the game?

[wide steeple]

Wanted to see the difference

[gusty burrow]

The difference is generally that it is less polished, has more bugs and oftentimes worse balance

[honest parrot]

unless you want to see the old light engine I guess there's not really a point going there
alts are, as far as I've been able to understand, better in most aspects

[wide steeple]

Acknowledged. Is it download only or typing a command in launch options can revert the game to old version?

[pastel dagger]

both

[pastel dagger]

they really butchered some expeditions

[honest parrot]

I wasn't there, but everyone keeps saying that alts were better, so I decided to take that as I did

[pastel dagger]

idk if its good or bad

they really removed a bunch of rooms

in r6

[pastel dagger]

its also optimized better

like way better

but yeah

i suppose in some cases u can downpatch and get more cosmetics?

[mellow hedge]

You have to download the files

If you want a specific rundown dm me

[tiny shadow]

nice

how hard would you gauge it was?
like if we ignore the error- and surge cheese you explained yesterday?

[daring ginkgo]

You mean if you do it in intended way?

[tiny shadow]

yeah

[daring ginkgo]

If you do it in intended way (ov>main>sec) with 3 bots it should be pretty hard imo, cause you will do big part of reactor inside fog (after doing ov fog lvl will rise), also 15 minutes can be not enough for sec (on my run i got awful rng with obj items)

Since there are only 1 checkpoint and it is before reactor i choose my safe strat

[tiny shadow]

i see

[daring ginkgo]

I did it on first try with this strat but i almost choked omw to 2nd terminal to disable 2nd error + incoming surge, all bots were down and i defended against error wave with low hp

Most dangerous moment was to pass respawn zone, if enemy from ov error screamed in it run is over and it was after reactor

With duo you can easily do it

[tiny shadow]

yeah i was worried about doing the z278 error because of the respawn zone with the tanks

after trying it with just bots i eventually realised the gimmik for the error

[daring ginkgo]

With duo you just split 2/2, one person try to create clear path on respawn zone, second defend against error waves and later join you

[tiny shadow]

like the waves spawning just in the one room

[tiny shadow]

yeah, in our run my friend and bots stayed to kill the waves while i went over to deactivate the alarm

[daring ginkgo]

There are also a trick how to avoid clearing respawn zone over and over again, that i did on this lvl

[tiny shadow]

im just wondering how you make it through that respawn zone with the overload error

[daring ginkgo]

Imagine this big respawn zone with tanks and other crap, then there are other respawn rooms

[daring ginkgo]

Kill wave, quickly run through respawn zone, sticking to right side, there were few small enemies, just kill them

[tiny shadow]

how long do the waves take to respawn for overload error?

[daring ginkgo]

20-30 sec iirc

[tiny shadow]

huh

[daring ginkgo]

For example big respawn room is called 0,next respawn room is 1 etc

[tiny shadow]

i mean it sound kinda hard to "run" through that zone if enemies are in the path

[daring ginkgo]

0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5

All of those are respawn rooms

[tiny shadow]

yee

[daring ginkgo]

If you kill bot/player on room 3,enemies on room 1,2,4 and 5 will not respawn (if all rooms on same zone)

Enemies cannot respawn, if you are within 2 rooms

And it count downed players

[tiny shadow]

wont the bots just revive eachother frame one?

[daring ginkgo]

If you kill bot while running they dont

[tiny shadow]

huh

so if the player is running the alive bots will follow instead of reviving?

[daring ginkgo]

Yes

[tiny shadow]

i see, okay

good to know

[daring ginkgo]

I utilized this only on this lvl, but later i realized, that i could do this on r5d2 too

[tiny shadow]

oh yeaaah, the room for the one reactor code, right?

that you have to go through the respawn zone

or atleast a zone with enemies

[daring ginkgo]

Yes, if i down bot just before leaving respawn zone, enemies will never respawn

And this respawn zone filled with giants

[tiny shadow]

yeah

[daring ginkgo]

Basically clear your path, open zone with chargers, kill them, kill bot inside respawn zone

Get code, revive bot, leave

[tiny shadow]

i havent made it to the rector yet myself, i just know about the code in the zone through respawn room

ive always failed so far on the zone 283 scan

[daring ginkgo]

Where you died? Cause clearing path to reactor is easier part of lvl

[tiny shadow]

before you get the keycard

[daring ginkgo]

After lvl 10 alarm?

[tiny shadow]

no i havent even made it past the class 10 yet

that has been my bottleneck for all my attempts

[daring ginkgo]

What loadout you using?

Tools

[tiny shadow]

i have the zones before that part down pretty consistently

[tiny shadow]

i alter between different close-quarter weapons for my loadout when ive been trying the class 10, but this is "roughly" my loadout that i use for all levels (ofcourse i often alter the bots loadouts depending on the level too)

i prefer using bio instead of a bot using it cause i dislike navigating through shadow strikers without it

wait no i cant put images here

[floral oak]

Get 1 bot to use it as well you and 1 bot use it

[tiny shadow]

#gtfo-media message

[floral oak]

Bots 24/7 uptime for scans

[daring ginkgo]

I see, this is not good

For bots use hel revo/dtr and bc (maybe hel gun, it worked fine for me)

On this lvl you better equip bio on bot, not gonna spoil it

Other tools is good, you need 2 turrets and mine deployer

[tiny shadow]

i usually run mine deployer

[daring ginkgo]

Sure, better use it yourself

[tiny shadow]

i havent really bothered using hel revo but ive heard that its pretty good

i just prefer higher fire power for myself atleast

hence usually carbine or heavy smg or burst rifle

[daring ginkgo]

Hel revo/dtr is good for bots

[vast zinc]

short rifle is calling u, really high fire power

[tiny shadow]

ive tried short rifle before.. not again

it was a mistake using it on r6d1

[dense crow]

use sawed off

short rifle is bad dont usr it

hottible damage

only used for stun

and crowd control

just slows and softens em up for ur teammates

[vast zinc]

short rifle doesnt deserve get so many hate😭 😭

[junior latch]

„For stun“

Short rifle with 0,5x stagger multi

litteraly one of the worst guns for stagger

[fringe garden]

short rifle is an excellent gun for beginners in pubs because they can't run out of ammo so at least i can eat the ammo and carry

[mellow hedge]

this might be its worst attribute

[fringe garden]

the big issue is that it has so bad stagger breakpoints

3 bodysthots on a striker for stagger is not workable

[dense crow]

it’s from experience and anecdotes, forgot to mention.

beat an r8 level with it and it held up a lot of the horde from spam

from that it’s decent in chokehold if spammed

and yes this gun has so much ammo

felt like i was shooting a drum mag

[sharp owl]

Every R1A1 clear I do is 0.1% less I must do in the future

at 1.5% done rn

[fringe garden]

are you aiming for 1000 r1a1 completions

[sharp owl]

mhm

now at 1.6%

[fringe garden]

have you considered doing something interesting with those 100 hours of your life instead

[sharp owl]

no

[fringe garden]

you should

[sharp owl]

I don't have anything important for another 6 months

other than studying

sp

I got a decent amount of free time

[fringe garden]

e2 solo

[sharp owl]

fuck ytouy

i ahte you

ok maybe I'll try e2 solo

after my 1000 a1 clears tho

its only like 110 hours

[fringe garden]

wonderful

(seek help)

[sharp owl]

Next time I’ll do 100% gtfo speedrun

Ok maybe not 100%

thats alittle too harsh

I had a 5:01 time yesterday, shame I’m running modded

(Qol)

Rainbow feelers my beloved

[junior latch]

Hey hey
Its very doable in ~30

[fringe garden]

nah

30 hours is 1.8 minutes average

[junior latch]

oh wait nvm

i had 30 days with 3 hours each day

thats where my 30 came from

[fringe garden]

50ish hours is doable if good 4man

[junior latch]

with drop time you are probably looking at 70 hours

[fringe garden]

that's fair

[junior latch]

that would be around 3-4 min ingame time per run and then insta drop again

[junior latch]

The gun does not stagger well

idk what to tell you
HAR/arbalist/veruta for example all do it on a single bullet to the body of a striker

Or 2 on a charger

[fringe garden]

to play support stagger it's just always hel auto pistol anyways

[burnt flume]

or hel shotgun

[fringe garden]

hel shotty is more in the direction of killing horde than it is in the direciton of keeping it away from team but they are both great at it

[burnt flume]

ya

if you're in a team situation you can destroy groups of enemies, or place your shots to stagger the enemies for your team

[fringe garden]

what is the max attack range of a shooter

[turbid stone]

I got over 100h and I finished the A levels in R3, wonder how long the rest will take :_)

[junior latch]

did you „only“ clear up to there

Or ONLY clear those?

[turbid stone]

I finished everything except R2E1..... my friend group gave up unfortunately TwT
I was ready to spend another 100h....

So finished R1 and almost R2, R4 and up are unknown to me

[fringe garden]

hey that's r2d1 and d2 cleared you'll get through r3 without too much trouble then

[turbid stone]

Yeaaah it was so refreshing to start R3 tbh :_)

Doing a level and actually first trying it??

[mellow hedge]

May god be with you in r4 and r5

[turbid stone]

Not waiting for everyone to get together for months trying for a couple of hours and then giving up....

[turbid stone]

Thank you.... gonna need it and I hope my friends can handle me convincing them for 10 hours

[junior latch]

You should have a mostly chill experience until about R4C2/3 at least (gtfo chill)

[worthy flicker]

Is r5 actually that bad?

[worthy flicker]

Tbf that's still a chill level(gtfo chill) if they don't PE it

[fringe garden]

r5 is like second most difficult rundown
like except for the a tiers and like b4 all levels are actually pretty hard all things considered

[worthy flicker]

Lmfao wonderful

[junior latch]

R2E1 is one of the hardest levels in the game (~5th) so its often recommended to be skipped

Gtfo is heavily knowledge based, so if they quit due to r2e1 you can always try getting them back for way more chill stuff

[junior latch]

Well im thinking about PE here

for main only the next wall would be r4e1

[worthy flicker]

God r4e1 is dark

[burnt flume]

how dark?

[fringe garden]

a solid 5

[worthy flicker]

Darker then I like my coffee

[fringe garden]

*than

[worthy flicker]

And I like my coffee how I like my men.

[sacred briar]

other rundowns are available

[mellow hedge]

Dark?

[worthy flicker]

And strong.

[nimble pumice]

larger charger

[mellow hedge]

dayum 58% off

[sharp owl]

100-120 since I’m solo w/ bots running unseeded

I’ll have to do 4 runs a day, only around 25~ mins to finish it this year

Maybe I’ll finish it in a week

Sadly I do have a life and cannot do that

[daring ginkgo]

Casual respawn zone and birther on single lvl in r5 A tier

[fringe garden]

mmm

if it weren't for the 231021210 babies also in the room it wouldn't be so bad

[sharp owl]

i hate r5

[sharp owl]

I got "The inner" Achivement after dropping into R1A1 LOL

[sharp owl]

2.1% done

certainly unoptimal but I don't want to go insane just yet

[tidal jay]

R5C2 has been a rough ride

Why am I getting cooked by this level

I beat R4E1

What is this nonsense

[daring ginkgo]

one of the harder lvls

[junior latch]

are you pubbing both?

[tidal jay]

Yeah

I still don't have static team

[daring ginkgo]

i am sure pubbing r4e1 should be harder, isnt it?

[tidal jay]

It was

2 months stuck there

I've been on R5C2 for a week

Barely anything

[junior latch]

you get better players on it

[pastel dagger]

Do it without cells in

[tidal jay]

PE

[pastel dagger]

Yes

[tidal jay]

That sounds like

Hell

[junior latch]

but ye r4e1 you can high roll good players aswell

[pastel dagger]

It is

[tidal jay]

Killing mother with that dense of a Fog? I'd rather death

[pastel dagger]

We forgor it removes fog

[tidal jay]

We always got pretty far

I just had to get good at diving

The ending always cooked us though

Tank + mom at the same time wasn't very nice by 10C

[daring ginkgo]

what is your choke point?

[pastel dagger]

Don't worry the full room scan actually provides visibility

[tidal jay]

Nono We doing secondary before Overload

[pastel dagger]

I don't remember which is which

But we've done it in full fog

[daring ginkgo]

ov - gauntlet
sec - reactor

[pastel dagger]

All of it

[tidal jay]

For wave 6 you mean? Usually defend inside tank room, but Eva suggested we actually inside reactor so wave aren't delayed

Which I haven't gotten around trying yet

[daring ginkgo]

no i mean where you dying

[tidal jay]

To mom in Wave 6

Waves are coming delayed, so we face mom + the last wave of 6 together

[junior latch]

wave 6 reactor

[hasty bobcat]

u should hold in reactor for last wave if u don't want delayed waves

[daring ginkgo]

if you def on reactor room i am pretty sure waves come with almost no delay

[junior latch]

yep

[tidal jay]

Yeeah Eva suggested that last time, I haven't gotten another chance to try it yet

[junior latch]

I do that with pubs nowadays too

[daring ginkgo]

it is harder, but faster

[pastel dagger]

Is reactor room a solution to every reactor

[hasty bobcat]

trust it's just a t4-e2 reactor

[daring ginkgo]

r2d2 bridge is better imo

[brittle schooner]

i'd argue its easier overall honestly

[tidal jay]

Killing a mom isn't a problem, we've killed many

The problem is killing her while an entire wave comes at us

Think defending reactor is what we need to push though

But

[daring ginkgo]

but mom comes last,no?

[tidal jay]

Gotta wait

[tidal jay]

Yes, but the delay

[hasty bobcat]

I thought she's mid wave

[pastel dagger]

Wait you're telling me u didn't wake mom and respawn room in r5c1 simultaneously

[brittle schooner]

she's at the end iirc

[tidal jay]

What's C1 again? I took a hiatus from the game

[daring ginkgo]

uplinks

[junior latch]

no

[pastel dagger]

It's shadow error uplink secondary

[tidal jay]

Oh yeah, we cooked her pretty quick

[pastel dagger]

We had the most scuffed run of it possible

[tidal jay]

I was scatter shot
As Host
Which I now know is not something I should do

Lmao

[pastel dagger]

Mom woke up

Gave birth

Giants from the next room were like aight bet

[mellow hedge]

reactor hold is only meant to combat global spawn push

[tidal jay]

Yeah I remember ours woke up too, but I was pretty close so I just hel shotgunned her spawns to the shadow realm

[junior latch]

honestly most reactors arent good with reactor hold ngl

[daring ginkgo]

r2d2 kind of reactor rooms sucks

[pastel dagger]

Nah we had trouble because we didn't even know what happen

[daring ginkgo]

or r1c1

[mellow hedge]

r8e2 is good for first wave

[junior latch]

R1C1, R3A3, R4B1 (arguable), R4E1, R5B1, R5D2, R6D1, R7E1, R8E2

[tidal jay]

Wasn't R2d2 that one error alarm level with the perma fog?

[junior latch]

nah reactor hold for that isnt bad
its a bit harder but the lines are easy to hold

[pastel dagger]

What

Ita a good room u twekin

[daring ginkgo]

no, it is 10 wave reactor

[tidal jay]

Which level am I thinking about?

[daring ginkgo]

r2c2 maybe

[pastel dagger]

2c2

[tidal jay]

Ooh

That level was really fun

Man.

[pastel dagger]

It's ok level

[daring ginkgo]

lvl where i gave up doing this game with real people 😂

[pastel dagger]

Why

[tidal jay]

What, did you do bots?

[daring ginkgo]

bad pub experience

[pastel dagger]

But yes

Unironically

[daring ginkgo]

yes, i clear lvls with 3 vanilla bots

[pastel dagger]

2c2 is easier the more bots you have

[tidal jay]

That sounds insanely hard

[tidal jay]

Wait how

[daring ginkgo]

on some lvls it is

[pastel dagger]

They follow you no questions asked

Bio better

[daring ginkgo]

bots immune to infection

[tidal jay]

Oh.

[pastel dagger]

That too

[tidal jay]

Huh.

Which other levels is it better to do bots?

I'm really curious now

[daring ginkgo]

none xd

[tidal jay]

Shouldn't be many right?

[pastel dagger]

Not really a trait

[tidal jay]

Figured LOL

[daring ginkgo]

full party > bots party

[pastel dagger]

But 2c2

Man

Two bots is peak

[lunar island]

infection resist boosters.

[tidal jay]

I've seen them +99%

[worthy flicker]

Biotracker bot>most biotracker randoms

[tidal jay]

Brutal

[lunar island]

if you reach 100% you are fully immune. that is the breakpoint.

otherwise just save them

[pastel dagger]

Bio randoms are fine

[tidal jay]

Isn't 99% fully immune?

[daring ginkgo]

bio bot is god for pings cause 360 degree scans

[pastel dagger]

Like actually fine

[tidal jay]

I thought 100% wasn't possible

[pastel dagger]

It's the guys who don't use it

[lunar island]

you can get over 100%

[tidal jay]

What's the point of that?

[lunar island]

pretty much always requires two boosters

[lunar island]

nothing.

[tidal jay]

Oh

[pastel dagger]

99 still infects

[lunar island]

but getting to 100% usually requires two

[pastel dagger]

You need to combo

[daring ginkgo]

infection should heal you tbh 😂

[lunar island]

they are the only boosters i bother keeping.

[tidal jay]

That is exactly what I was thinking

[tidal jay]

Main dmg for hel revo?

Gotta admit it's great

[lunar island]

i don't use hel weapons.

[tidal jay]

But I always do mutes

[lunar island]

i am a shotgun addict.

sawed off or slug

[daring ginkgo]

but hel shotgun

[tidal jay]

I always just run hel shotty and scatter

[lunar island]

when not, i use the burst rifle

[pastel dagger]

Sucks

[junior latch]

it reduces infection in fog

[tidal jay]

Haven't tried either tbh, they good?

[brittle schooner]

there is actually 1 reason to get over 100% infect, which is that standing in infection fog with over 100% infect reduces it

[lunar island]

past 100% you get no extra benefit...

[brittle schooner]

yes you do

[lunar island]

it cant reduce past 0

[daring ginkgo]

sawed off is 1st/2nd best primary weapon

[pastel dagger]

Sawed off yes

[brittle schooner]

eva literary said it lol

[junior latch]

theres a lots of broken boosters

not bringing any is the real chad move

[tidal jay]

Better than Hel shotty?

[brittle schooner]

r5e1 or syringes

[junior latch]

r5e1...

[brittle schooner]

still give u infection

[pastel dagger]

Glow stick power

[daring ginkgo]

yes

[pastel dagger]

Bring that

[tidal jay]

The hell, what makes it so good?

[junior latch]

high dmg
kills fast

[daring ginkgo]

sawed off and hel revo are 2 best primary weapons

[junior latch]

fast reload

[lunar island]

the entire context of the convo is 100% inf resist with two boosters

[junior latch]

and you realistically get over 100%

[lunar island]

you get nothing for each percent over 100

[junior latch]

you do tho

in r5e1

it reduces infection

when in fog

[lunar island]

you don't get infection with 100%

[brittle schooner]

-_-

[lunar island]

you are immune

[junior latch]

you do

r5e1 drops you at 100%

[lunar island]

cool. that has nothing to do with infection rate

[junior latch]

it

does

[brittle schooner]

???

[junior latch]

since above 100%

[brittle schooner]

ok im out

[junior latch]

it reduces you back below that

[brittle schooner]

hf eva

[junior latch]

you lose less hp

[mellow hedge]

if ur over 100% infect resist then you lose infection

you will lose all ur r5e1 infect

[junior latch]

plus syringes etc

[mellow hedge]

^

so syringes have no downside

[lunar island]

syringes aren't infection rate from fog.. they are a static amount

[mellow hedge]

you still lose it

if you stand in fog

[junior latch]

and with >100% infection resist you lower that infection again

this matters especially in r5e1

[daring ginkgo]

the higher infection resist above 100% will reduce infection quicker?

[junior latch]

yes

[brittle schooner]

ya

[lunar island]

with 100% infection resist, fog doesn't even do anything

period.

[junior latch]

but

you spawn

with 100%

infection

in r5e1

[hasty bobcat]

but r5e1

[mellow hedge]

and you get infect from syringes

[lunar island]

y'all are insufferable

goodbye

[unreal crystal]

ironic

[brittle schooner]

looool

[daring ginkgo]

[mellow hedge]

this is literally just game mechanics

what is hard to understand

[hasty bobcat]

that was hilarious

[pastel dagger]

Stick to lore next time

[mellow hedge]

^

[tidal jay]

You reckon hel shotgun or sawed off would be better for R5c2?

[hasty bobcat]

both are good

[junior latch]

"above 100% infection resist doesnt do anything"

it does, in xyz cases

"yall insufferable"

[tidal jay]

Got me thinking now

[junior latch]

sawed off

[mellow hedge]

LMAO

[brittle schooner]

this^

[daring ginkgo]

sawed off is better

[junior latch]

hel shotty is good for surges on 1 player tho and generally good

[daring ginkgo]

hel shotgun was very good for me on r2e1

[pastel dagger]

Don't recall what I did it with but it was not hel shotgun

[tidal jay]

Oh huh. Is it good dealing with babies?

[brittle schooner]

i think sawed-off prolly wins just because its an overall stronger weapon but hel shotty is still pretty nice

[unreal crystal]

i'll never fathom why people go to talk about stuff they know nothing about

[daring ginkgo]

cause tons of small fries

[pastel dagger]

So you're good with whatever

[unreal crystal]

and when theyre wrong they double down and get mad

[brittle schooner]

ya

[mellow hedge]

its more that they dont want to listen lmao

very common

with

yeah

[hasty bobcat]

erm

erm nerm

[tidal jay]

Alright, thanks for the help you guys

[junior latch]

sawed off is surprisingly good at it yea

not hel shotgun good tho

[tidal jay]

I appreciate it

[unreal crystal]

mountainman was right

i havent decided which part he was right about

but he was right about something

[hasty bobcat]

he's always right

[mellow hedge]

i love

that i kinda got him banned

he was based for that statement tho

[hasty bobcat]

what did he say

[twin shale]

Hi, I downloaded the mods and in our game the saves at the doors with security stopped working. How can I fix it?

[mellow hedge]

#gtfo-spoiler-chat message it was after this

got deleted tho

[pastel dagger]

damn, did they just leave server

[junior latch]

"the mods"

[pastel dagger]

crazy

[junior latch]

hm?

[mellow hedge]

probably blocked us all LMAOOOOOOOOO

[unreal crystal]

they do have a very long list of blocked people yes

[tidal jay]

Who's out here getting blocked

[mellow hedge]

i love

that im not

like this

[unreal crystal]

hey guys

[junior latch]

you are

[unreal crystal]

anyone

[junior latch]

you are also frosty

[unreal crystal]

wanna

play some

gtfo?

[mellow hedge]

NOOO

[hasty bobcat]

oh no

[junior latch]

we are trying ok

[hasty bobcat]

u3 bet

[pastel dagger]

Who is gonna be loremaster now

[fleet kettle]

suppose so after Frosty goes for his beauty sleep

[unreal crystal]

i was kidding im not playing gtfo today

[fleet kettle]

Frosty

[hasty bobcat]

back to idling

[junior latch]

sure

[hasty bobcat]

u should try u3 sometime tho it went pretty hard

[lunar island]

i'm not leaving the server. nice try.
but that doesn't mean i have to tolerate a conversation with you lot.

[mellow hedge]

You literally couldn't accept factual game mechanics then blocked everyone

[lunar island]

so to the block list you went.

[unreal crystal]

when enough people tell u ur drunk u should probably sit down frostty

[real monolith]

Huh

[pastel dagger]

I didn't know that's how it worked. This is my first time

[lunar island]

when we were talking about infection fog and you hijack the conversation to something entirely unrelated to be "right"? sure.

[tidal jay]

Guys uh

[mellow hedge]

Not what happened lmao

But sure

[junior latch]

@lunar island you were objectively stating smth that is wrong

R5E1 gives you 100% infection when you drop

having 100% resist booster just stops you from going above 85%
a booster combo above 100% (which is most of them since muted + aggressive end up as >100% usually) will have you not just take NO infection. But have it actually lower when you are in fog

[mellow hedge]

Maybe stay in lore chat

[tidal jay]

I think we should probably move on to something else

[mellow hedge]

Na i like this

[daring ginkgo]

b-but gtfo drama...

[junior latch]

less drama

[fleet kettle]

It's time to do another comp to sunset lore chat

[junior latch]

just someone spreading missinfo and being corrected

[unreal crystal]

just the ego of someone whos never willing to accept theyre wrong

look at lore chat lmao

[mellow hedge]

You said over 100% did nothing, which is incorrect in the situation where you start with infection which is in r5e1

[hasty bobcat]

u missed out on one

[mellow hedge]

I love reading the old lore chats

[junior latch]

@daring ginkgo how r8b4 been going btw

[mellow hedge]

Makes me feel good about myself

[brittle schooner]

pretty much sumarizises the entire convo, ill also add a "refuses to read" part

[daring ginkgo]

i have to work overtime, so i could try it only on saturday( but yesterday i tested your invisible wall moment and fog removing, so i am ready

[tidal jay]

Dawg I never thought GTFO would be the server I'd encounter drama in I'm NOT gonna lie

[unreal crystal]

gtfo drama goes crazy

[real monolith]

I love drama

[lunar island]

they harassed a person out of the server this last week. where have you been?

[mellow hedge]

LOLLLLLL

[junior latch]

yea that was bull

[daring ginkgo]

it was that player on r5d1?

[tidal jay]

I don't use general that often, only to ask questions haha

[daring ginkgo]

stuggling to deal vs tanks

[mellow hedge]

Not taking advice at all

[hasty bobcat]

it was just about tanks in general

[mellow hedge]

basically saying its impossible

[unreal crystal]

was i here for this

[junior latch]

they were asking for advice
We gave advice and they said "not possible" -> not listening at all

then said I was rude for saying those things and telling them to check out how other people solo tank and that it doesnt 1 shot you

some people dont deal well with facts ngl

[lunar island]

it's best if you don't. half of the people here are incredibly toxic.

[junior latch]

no

[unreal crystal]

LOL

[mellow hedge]

LMAOOOOOO

[junior latch]

you wouldve laughed probably

[pseudo sedge]

nah

[daring ginkgo]

nah

[unreal crystal]

we're all toxic now

[hasty bobcat]

oookayyy

[pseudo sedge]

there is a minimum level of criticism u gotta be able to take

and spreading missinfo is on that level

[unreal crystal]

all u need to do to get called toxic

is correct people

[mellow hedge]

and give advice

[unreal crystal]

ive been playing the game wrong

[pastel dagger]

Actually not false but that's why we like it here

[daring ginkgo]

you monsters

[tidal jay]

Can I just be completely honest?
Dawg this community has been nothing but helpful and kind to me for the time I've been here, Jish, Eva and Frosty being the ones that are quickest to answer my questions

Maybe others had different experiences, but to me they've been absolutely fantastic and mega kind

[hasty bobcat]

erm n erm

[junior latch]

tbh this discord rly isnt toxic

[lunar island]

when talking about fog in general one outlier expedition out of 80 is hardly misinfo

[hasty bobcat]

for whatever reason i feel bad 😔

[mellow hedge]

Ur just the goat

[daring ginkgo]

i agree

[real monolith]

False

[junior latch]

if you are wrong 1 out of 83 times, then you would still be wrong on that one

stating smth is "never" doign anything when it does is wrong still

[lunar island]

to me, this community has been incredibly hateful and vile. i've personally ended up getting dozen banned over the years due to reports.

[pseudo sedge]

when u say "it does nothing" and in fact in 1/83 runs it does... it kinda feels like u are still wrong

[hasty bobcat]

king u dropped ur 👑

[mellow hedge]

I would say infection boosters make one of the biggest impacts on that level

[real monolith]

I never see anyone being mean here

Like ever

[lunar island]

the only place i'm not undergoing constant harassment is in the lore channel

becuase that's the fastest ban. (see nlo)

[unreal crystal]

LOL

[hasty bobcat]

ok

[junior latch]

because you are trying to learn and trying to listen

you dont block the experienced opinions with a bad countertake like people do who cant accept advice

[unreal crystal]

like 3 people have NLO btw

[tidal jay]

I don't think I've had a single bad interacting here, not in chat or voice tbh

[fleet kettle]

wtf is nlo

[hasty bobcat]

wtf is nlo

[unreal crystal]

no lore

[hasty bobcat]

oh

[pastel dagger]

What

[unreal crystal]

it was made cause frostty had a meltdown over chimp theory

[mellow hedge]

Acknowledging people are better than you and taking their advice is the first step towards becoming normal

[pseudo sedge]

how is it harassement tho when u get called on bullshit tho? ( i refer to now, not history)

[unreal crystal]

couldnt handle the truth

[pastel dagger]

Still don't get wtf is nlo

[lunar island]

I... i have really bad experiences outside of lore. doesn't help my depression, so i just avoid talking when certain people are in chat

[mellow hedge]

i like this theory

[hasty bobcat]

didn't mm get banned from lore channel for that

or smth

[real monolith]

Wtf is chimp theory

[lunar island]

ah, i see you don't want a genuine conversation after all.

[unreal crystal]

it's rarely ever been "harassment" it's just people correcting her or people having a different take on the game's lore

and she's too self absorbed to see it

doesn't care for it

her perspective is the only one that matters

[mellow hedge]

^

[unreal crystal]

brick wallmaxxing

[pseudo sedge]

drop into r5e1 with 101% infection and u see ur infect going down, there is no conversation to be had in this case. I genuinely wanna know what the issue is

[mellow hedge]

trademarking this

[tidal jay]

Things get better with time, can't say I know what you're going though but things get better homie

[pastel dagger]

Huh? I'm already normal and you're all crazy! Hel shotgun bad

[fleet kettle]

You are also not the one for genuine conversation tbh when you shut down people immediately when they tried to correct a "seemingly insignificant mistake"

[tidal jay]

No buy guys I really think this convo should probably stop here, I don't think this benefits anyone

[brittle schooner]

this is the most ironic thing you can say ngl

[lunar island]

i doubt it. i've been in this channel for years. people have been banned, but it has been a constant. almost weekly reports to the moderators does little.

[pseudo sedge]

and it's not a big deal, u mentioned a game mechanic u didnt know/ignored and said missinfo, that's all

at this point it's just take the L and move on

[mellow hedge]

Its because these are baseless reports

[unreal crystal]

(the reports do nothign cause the people arent actually harassing her)

[lunar island]

i'm not reading the spew of 57 blocked messages, but i'm sure its hateful and mockery.

[real monolith]

Truth

[unreal crystal]

just truthmaxxing bestie

[daring ginkgo]

[real monolith]

No they said the convo should stop they're being pretty chill

[junior latch]

no way tgb just got blocked for explaining why shes wrong...

[hasty bobcat]

me when i talk to 57 blocked messages

brickwall moment

[real monolith]

Oh you meant the others I'm dense

[brittle schooner]

lmao

[pseudo sedge]

asking what's wrong with being wrong = harassement

[real monolith]

😭

[mellow hedge]

brick wallmaxxing

[unreal crystal]

now people get it

[junior latch]

if you only expect hate in your life, then everything will start to look like hate

[hasty bobcat]

yeah took a bit

[mellow hedge]

wait

is sleepy just frostty alt that wanted to talk in gtfo chat?

[pastel dagger]

Oh it does. There is nothing to do and I have something to read

[unreal crystal]

unfortunately

no

[junior latch]

nah that guy was worse

far worse

[mellow hedge]

yeah

[pseudo sedge]

team

can u continue this convo

i am resetting r1a1s

[mellow hedge]

im still his biggest opp

lesgo

[pseudo sedge]

i need content

[fleet kettle]

ayo I also got blocked nice

[pseudo sedge]

i had 35 E hsus in a row

[junior latch]

i told you we shouldve run every attempt

[unreal crystal]

lmao

[mellow hedge]

sorry im tabbing in to ready up every 5 seconds

[fleet kettle]

We love having reasnoable conversation when other side is brickwall moment everyone

#gtfo-chat message

[unreal crystal]

harassment is just a buzzword

[fleet kettle]

#gtfo-chat message

[hasty bobcat]

me when i get harassed by 57 blocked messages

[pastel dagger]

Harassment is recommending hel shotgun as a weapon to pick

[fleet kettle]

Huh

[mellow hedge]

its been almost a year....

surely itll die down

[junior latch]

just a rage bait bad take

[unreal crystal]

rent free

[pastel dagger]

Sure but not even bad

[real monolith]

Yea hell shotty sucks

My goat carbine tops

[mellow hedge]

80% ragebait

[pseudo sedge]

can i drop the bbc copypasta in gen chat

[pastel dagger]

100% but lots of weapons I'd take over hel shotty

It's just not that great overall

[tidal jay]

Such as?

I run Hel shotty like

90% of the time LOL

[pastel dagger]

Hel revo, sawed off, dtr

[tidal jay]

dtr being?

[junior latch]

only top 3 main yea

[hasty bobcat]

double tap balls

[pastel dagger]

Double tap

[tidal jay]

Wait double tap is good?

[junior latch]

theres like 4 maybe 5 picks that are worth over it depending on situation

[pastel dagger]

Double tap is amazing

[junior latch]

if you are cracked yea

[mellow hedge]

That is subjective, not objective

hel shotty is still busted

[tidal jay]

I used to main Dmr a while back

I'll try it

I love that type of weapons

[pastel dagger]

Nah it's just ok

[mellow hedge]

ragebait

[junior latch]

@tidal jay dtr is realistically not a top weapon. Its high input/high reward

but other weapons also have high reward (or even more) and are just easier to play

[pastel dagger]

Exactly

Only top3

Why not top1 huh

[hasty bobcat]

dtr is not top3

[tidal jay]

Well tbh, I've kinda grown bored of Hel shotty, I wanna try Sawed off and Dtr when I get back home

[pastel dagger]

Because it sucks

[mellow hedge]

sawed off gives it backshots

[junior latch]

DTR is like bottom of A or B tier

[pastel dagger]

Dtr is more fun

[brittle schooner]

sawed-off is busted, dtr is pretty gud, especially as a client

[junior latch]

fun is subjective

[tidal jay]

It's dmr but... shoot twice. No?

[hasty bobcat]

am i alting

what is this

[junior latch]

no

less dmg

[tidal jay]

It's not?

[junior latch]

more ammo

[hasty bobcat]

double ammo

[worthy flicker]

have to land both shots with it

[junior latch]

you have to also hs and body shot

[worthy flicker]

Very fun to use imo tho

[pastel dagger]

What

[junior latch]

for shooters instead of just hs

[tidal jay]

Is it 1 headshot kill on strikers?

[junior latch]

no

[pastel dagger]

Dmr sucks trust

[junior latch]

its hs + bs

[mellow hedge]

dtr is actually a weapon that needs skill

[tidal jay]

Aah dang

[junior latch]

but you need to do it in 1 burst

[tidal jay]

Okay that sounds a lot harder lol

[pseudo sedge]

team now that frosty-lore has blocked me... can i spread missinfo in gtfo-lore???

[mellow hedge]

DMR is generally better

[unreal crystal]

yes

[tidal jay]

Dmr my beloved, I genuinely like that weapon so much

It feels soo good to use

[mellow hedge]

its pretty good

guys

where do the zombies go when they die?

[hasty bobcat]

to the respawn point?

[daring ginkgo]

gone, reduced to atoms

[mellow hedge]

the fast travel station i think

[hasty bobcat]

oya prolly

[mellow hedge]

i think the warden is handsome jack and the zombies are loaders

[hasty bobcat]

YES

SO REAL

[brittle schooner]

dont they just become zombies again

[mellow hedge]

^

Read the facts

[brittle schooner]

hmmm

[mellow hedge]

They go to fast travel

[brittle schooner]

i see

[hasty bobcat]

we don't fight the warden tho

[mellow hedge]

OMG

[hasty bobcat]

in the end

not lore accurate

[mellow hedge]

AND MOTHERS ARE CONSTRUCTORS

IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE

[hasty bobcat]

LMAO

[fleet kettle]

Damn

[mellow hedge]

its the pre-sequel

[hasty bobcat]

my bad boss

u dropped ur 👑

[fleet kettle]

That's why Schaeffer talks with us

[mellow hedge]

and tank is ultimate badass loader

pablo is saturn

erm

[fleet kettle]

what's a bunker tho

[mellow hedge]

kraken

[fleet kettle]

ah fair

[mellow hedge]

i like this theory

[pastel dagger]

A game theory

[real monolith]

A thing that needs 2 players to open

It can have super credits weapons medals etc.

[mellow hedge]

Erm actually

its the BNK-3R, the greatest defence bot ever built, designed her myself, now do me a favour and die

[fleet kettle]

Thank you frosty

I was waiting just for that

[tidal jay]

Guys, quick question

[rose nova]

yes

[tidal jay]

As I typically host R5C2, it's adviced to NOT bring scattershot

Which secondary should I bring?

I'm gonna try Sawed off Primary

[rose nova]

i mean sort of whatever really, if someone else is scattergunnin u can do whatever u want

theres a few chargers in overload

and some shadows in sec and main

[tidal jay]

Is the revolver a good weapon?

[junior latch]

its ok

[rose nova]

revos good for normal enemies, might not be the pick for c2

[junior latch]

mostly for smalls

theres better choices

[rose nova]

as u battle a lot of special ones

[tidal jay]

Ah, what would you bring for Chargers/Bigs?

I know Hel gun/rifle are insane

[rose nova]

hel rifle, high cal, normal shottie

[tidal jay]

But I'm just not that much of a fan

[tidal jay]

High cal pistol?

[rose nova]

tbh as long as ur skilled u can get away with whatever
i mean saweds off kinda ur charger weapon anyway

[rose nova]

yeh

its 30 dmg

so oneshot charger

[tidal jay]

That's actually lovely

[rose nova]

normal shotties 30 too

[junior latch]

thats hel rifle but worse (still good)

[rose nova]

just make sure ur at range, high cals like 8 meters?

[rose nova]

me when i still enjoy

[tidal jay]

Huh wait

What do you mean?

[junior latch]

only within 8 meters @tidal jay

[tidal jay]

Oh

Got it

[rose nova]

after that u wont oneshot chargers

cuz of falloff dmg

[tidal jay]

And I know Precision Rifle is

Just not that good right?

[rose nova]

its fine

also for smalls but also very good for shadows

[sullen finch]

not as good as burst pistol

[rose nova]

which there is a few in this mission

so it tbh could be a bit of an option

r5c2 just favors a very big dmg gun

in almost every section