gtfo-chat

[modern coral]

The tap fire was its worst quality, what you mean?

[sharp siren]

To the helfun chanfe

[modern coral]

It doesn't recover fast enough for tap spam.

Good now, tho.

[jade iron]

wdym strictly better sniper

[jagged trail]

ah, i forgot

the slight buff to reload speed elevated it

[rose nova]

HEL AUTO FUCKING WHAT?

GASP

heavy assault rifle recoil

eva is gonna melt

[junior latch]

im not triggered anymore

its still worse than r6 with how it feels

[storm quartz]

I just remembered preload meta is going to comeback

[rose nova]

ah but at least its
not
that bad

[wispy bluff]

My brrrr girl is back

I shall bring it to every mission and hear her brrrrt

You're not making me change my tool

[rose nova]

and its hel what da fuck kdsmdk

i wasnt expectin that at all

[wispy bluff]

That's exactly what it needed

Otherwise it was shit

Personally I'd prefer explosive bullets but whatever

[junior latch]

dude who plays auto sentry calls autopp shit

without ever having used it

[wispy bluff]

I used it R6

It was shit

[rose nova]

thats machine

pistol

[outer gull]

HEl autopp is going to be my favorite weapon

[junior latch]

yea lol

[wispy bluff]

Wait what are walking about

[junior latch]

autopp wasnt a thing outside of r4

[rose nova]

autopistol

[rose nova]

oh god same ksmdk

[outer gull]

That shit sounds fire

[rose nova]

also they nefr burst cannon im happy fuck thhat weapon for no specific reason

:D

[outer gull]

A bit of a shame they nerfed damage, the ammo count was really the only problem imo

[wispy bluff]

I was thinking of auto turret

So no HEL turret

Big sad

[junior latch]

nah it was the damage lol

burst cannon should not 1 tap strikers

[rose nova]

how much is it now?

like
80 or somethin?

[junior latch]

its appearantly like 19 per bullet (95 total)

[outer gull]

I am of the opinion that if a weapon is fun you should nerf the efficiency not what makes it fun

[wispy bluff]

BC is useless now I assume?

[modern coral]

95 p sure

[rose nova]

ah lmao ksks

[junior latch]

youd need to nerf its efficiency to trash tho
bc was giga omega broken with 20 per bullet

lol

[rose nova]

no why

[outer gull]

Exactly, but heres hoping that needing to hit headshots is still fun to burst down waves

Havent tried the new recoil yet and honestly I didnt use BC much to begin with

[junior latch]

recoil is noticeable

but wont matter if you know it

[outer gull]

I am a machinegun enjoyer and the changes to the arbalist sound juicy

[junior latch]

arbalist is fun

but prob not that good

[outer gull]

What was the damage increase?

If you know the number

[modern coral]

5.3 apparently

[rose nova]

sounds funks

[outer gull]

Hmm, thats not bad

But with all the buffs veruta has that this still gonna be my favorite smh

[rose nova]

oh i fucking adore the model of the autopistol

for me is one of the prettiest weapons

[outer gull]

Drum mag on a pistol :)

[rose nova]

yeh >:3

and how the sights r illuminated aaa

aham yeah this is my go to weapon now huh funky

[elfin osprey]

eva

do we have a running supper long 1 full team scan in r4?

[junior latch]

what

[elfin osprey]

i remember seeing someone do it

[junior latch]

?

[elfin osprey]

a really long scan that start from down in the pit

[junior latch]

thats r6

c1

[elfin osprey]

ok

also, do u know what fun can i expect on r4e1?

[earnest forge]

Pain and suffering

[elfin osprey]

that is techniclly every single level in gtfo

suffer and pain and hell

[earnest forge]

Well, it is especially true from this one ^^

[elfin osprey]

and doom slayer

and knife

and john wick stuff

[fair escarp]

The most fun level ever made

[little ridge]

||tank error at the start (you turn it off)|| and more

[elfin osprey]

any new shrimp that we encounter?

like some bushrimp kaboom stuff

[elfin osprey]

that is mind blowing

[native zodiac]

not really

i mean tbf ive been here since the start XD

but thats the easier part

[storm quartz]

Level wasn't hard unless you didn't do extreme

[haughty burrow]

Did they run out of cosmetics?

[earnest forge]

That could be it honestly

[sharp owl]

r4 cured my stage 4 cancer this is a miracle

[rose nova]

nope
if u didnt received one i think calle asked for u to dm ur steam id?

#gtfo-spoiler-chat message

or maybs they did tbh idk

[hollow quarry]

Info in #game-announcements

[haughty burrow]

Cool. I sleep til patch.

Even though i didn't clear r6e1

[jagged trail]

@hollow quarry if you complete a level now and don't get rewarded but you complete the level again after the patch you will get a reward then, right?

[coarse grail]

"As you only get rewarded for the first completion..."

[serene berry]

The way the announcement is worded: definitely No

[jagged trail]

sooo the people that already completed some levels are cucked?

[little ridge]

I'm not gonna redo shit tbh

Fuck the random cosmetics

UNLESS that applies also towards the thing you get for completing everything

@hollow quarry does that apply towards the final mask too?

[serene berry]

it physically cannot, that cosmetic is always newly released and always locked behind Rundown clear

[little ridge]

Then tbh I dont care much

[haughty burrow]

I wonder if the clear masks will be re-released

The ones for completing the specific rundowns

[serene berry]

why would they be rereleased? they are already out

[haughty burrow]

They're in the random pool?

I don't believe that.

[serene berry]

oh, you are asking if specific drops will get added to the loot pool? uhh thats, why would they? they will just add palletes, and other robot limbs

its a more permanent solution

[lavish jay]

Chances are that the 6.0 completion stuff might be re-released as completion rewards for ALT://6.0

but they might introduce new completion rewards of a similar vibe to the original 6.0's

[haughty burrow]

Double pegleg when

[lavish jay]

double robot arm when

[wicked solstice]

mechanical head when

[serene berry]

we have seen the datacenter tile robot, give us his head!

[hollow quarry]

A new one, yes

[spare violet]

so calle

let me ask

the levels that we have completed yeah?

will we EVER get cosmetics for it

are you guys looking for a solution for it for the small % of players

[south roost]

-6 cosmetics D:

[noble cypress]

#game-announcements message - Can someone clarify what this means. My interpretation is that those who have completed everything including PEs etc are currently affected by rewards not being distributed in R4. If those who complete R4, after the patch will still not be rewarded?

[jagged trail]

if I'm understanding Calle's response to my question right, you'll have to reclear the map after the patch

[coarse grail]

idk why you would assume that

when he says specifically they are only awarded on first clears

[south roost]

you do not get anything if it is already ticked

[little ridge]

I only give HALF of a shit about the final mask tbh

[south roost]

anything you complete before their patch, you just get a huge L from them

[little ridge]

Everything else is random stuff so whatever

[jagged trail]

@coarse grail
"if you complete a level now and don't get rewarded but you complete the level again after the patch you will get a reward then, right?
A new one, yes"

[little ridge]

Just did all As PE and B1 Extreme so I can call it an afternoon

[south roost]

A new level, he misunderstood your message i think

[noble cypress]

I'll just wait then - wanted to clear entire R4 including all objectives within 1 day, I try tomorrow after patch

[jagged trail]

oj

[little ridge]

Previously CALLE wanted the SteamIDs of people affected so MAYBE they're gonna give stuff out to people that explicitly request it

[jagged trail]

oh

[serene berry]

he did not word his response espexially clearly

[coarse grail]

or it may have been that that was to diagnose the issue

[jagged trail]

well, if people who have cleared already are cucked then I'm amused

[little ridge]

Mayhaps but whatever

[jagged trail]

that they invented new way to say "fuck you" to vets

[unreal crystal]

innovation

[serene berry]

innovation

[rose nova]

innovation

[hollow quarry]

No promises, that was to check how it looked in the backend for affected people, to investigate the cause from more angles

[noble cypress]

"completed everything in Rundown 6.0 and 7.0 with all their layers, and ALT Rundown 1-3" so not exactly everyone

[jagged trail]

which is why i said "vets" in next message

[noble cypress]

200% Im not a vet

[hollow quarry]

Yea, it affects the most dedicated players.

[lavish jay]

Looks like they just forgor how many opportunities people already had to unlock cosmetics and forgor how many unlockable cosmetics they had available.

[little ridge]

I want a G11 Mask, only for me as compensation

AND it needs to snore if I go afk

[coarse grail]

Did people miss out on unlocks when they changed rewards from being given for sector clears to main clears part way through a rundown? If they hadn't cleared the sectors already

[noble cypress]

There's one piece of torso I want - I'm not sure the name but it looks like a big puffy jacket and it comes with a robot hand. The last piece I'm missing which I'm hoping to get in this R4 if I'm lucky

[lavish jay]

If you didn't play R6 and didn't play any of the extra sectors from R7 back when they awarded cosmetics, you currently have 45 opportunities to unlock cosmetics, but there are currently only 46 unlockables (not counting your free helmet, legs, or torso)

[coarse grail]

Not quite what I was getting at. At some point rewards were removed for hitting sector completion milestones, and were instead given for main completions only. For that rundown alone I was wondering if that had an impact on the number of rewards attainable for players arriving after the change

[lavish jay]

Yes, as those opportunities are now unavailable to new players/players who arrived after that change.

[coarse grail]

Hm, I don't remember a fuss being raised when that happen which is odd

I guess the people that arrived late didn't really understand it had happened

But that adds another caveat for the current situation that people would need to have gotten the full sector clears BEFORE that change

[lavish jay]

It might cause issues down the line when the final levels get added (as either they'll have to stop adding in new unlocks for veterans who had those removed unlock opportunities, or make it impossible for newer players to be able to unlock everything by missing out on those unlock opportunities, or alternatively find some workaround for the problem)

[tough oxide]

best would be to unlock all remaining cosmetics once u complete all lvls in all rundowns after r8 is out

[coarse grail]

Thats a good solution

[uneven ravine]

my team already completed half the rundown, it really sucks being penalized for being more dedicated at the game, just make it so all unlockables are awarded once the rundown is completed and call it a day.

[native zodiac]

thats stupid that we dont get cosmetics

ive done all of a and b1 fully

why not give us a hotfix to give us cosmetics on a unlock thing

so the game registers if we have the specific id for cosmetic and if the user doesnt have it they can just claim it

[jagged trail]

you realize that would require work right?

[native zodiac]

yep

[jagged trail]

so why are you proposing it?

[native zodiac]

because its stupid we dont get cosmetics for being good at the game

[jagged trail]

so?

[native zodiac]

i want my cosmetics

[jagged trail]

if you really are a vet then you shouldn't expect to get them

[native zodiac]

i dont expect them i just want them XD

[hollow quarry]

We are focusing on fixing the issue first

[uneven ravine]

So long as you have something planned in the future to address us not getting the cosmetics i don't mind.

[south roost]

also a broken room in spoiler chat

[unreal crystal]

Unaware

[hollow quarry]

We try to not make the same mistake twice

[hollow quarry]

#1049599987878723635

[finite sphinx]

So if I clear the rundown before the patch and try clearing again after the patch, I wont get any rewards cause its after my first clears?

Just wanna double check

[hollow quarry]

That is correct

[fierce viper]

out of curiosity how does hosting work in GTFO, is it peer to peer or server based?

[finite sphinx]

Thanks for clearing that up

[finite sphinx]

Peer to peer

[raw shard]

Is there not a way of resetting the checks at all? I would rather just have to beat everything again

[fair escarp]

This cosmetic situation is so fucking funny to see

[sharp owl]

the only good cosmetic is lugubrious

[thick temple]

E1 hasn't been cleared yet? I'm surprised guys
Every other alt was done by the time I woke up lol

[real dune]

türk var mı türk
#general kanalına mesaj gönder

[eternal maple]

Is it just that people are running out of cosmetics?

[raw shard]

Yes, people who aren't getting drops are people who have all of them already

[rose nova]

the gtfo grind

[hybrid rain]

So people who haven’t gotten all the cosmetics get them?

[wraith mist]

#game-announcements

As you only get rewarded for the first completion, you that are affected can choose to pause your scavenging in The Complex and continue after the patch. But if you don’t care about the wardrobe you can continue but won't get rewarded for your completion.
Does this mean if you already beat some levels you wont get the apparel from that anymore?

[rose nova]

if u have all the ones from r6 r7 and the ALTS
nope

[raw shard]

Someone literally just asked this

[rose nova]

its ok to double check

[wraith mist]

Maybe they should explain that in the announcement. Seems like a communication problem.

[jovial thistle]

#gtfo-chat message

[fair escarp]

People losing their mind lol

[rose nova]

they announced it in game announcements :^
tho yeah maybe it should b a bit more clear

[rose nova]

no, more like just a bit of confusion

no one is loosin their minds

[fair escarp]

People are finally understanding how the devs work

[rose nova]

...

um

why dont u go do r4

[fair escarp]

It affects a minority so it's not a priority

[rose nova]

we already tryin to fix this

so u dont have to worry

itll be fixed by tomorrow they said

so u can just

wait

[fair escarp]

The fix is turning cosmetics they had innthe pool that were just not active into an active set

Aka they forgot to double check before launching r4

🤣

[thick temple]

i can agree that it's just
a tad silly that it wasn't fixed before this
people were saying it might be an issue by r3, but they had just enough
but now they have a lot more so of course it was gonna be an issue

[unreal crystal]

ppl literally said there won’t be enough and they were just like

Nah it’ll be fine

and crazy

[rose nova]

wow u tell me in this gigantic mechanical movement that is releasing a rundown in such a short time they forgot one detail?
yes is a bit silly but theres a fix goin now

itll b fixed

by tomorrow they said

[unreal crystal]

It was in fact not fine

[raw shard]

*a level reseed

[unreal crystal]

Who could’ve ever foreseen this

[thick temple]

i mean i believe them, but, still
this was a problem creeping in from the beginning

[rose nova]

they still released a rundown
that what i meant

[fair escarp]

I think this guy miss the point that the people who found it out that it doesn't drop get penalized with no "fix to their problem" told

[rose nova]

sigh i guess that is true

but even so that line u said was kinda just bonkers

[fair escarp]

We are used to it by now if you have been here a long time

[rose nova]

actin as if they devs opressed minorities

[unreal crystal]

it’s a pretty common occurrence

[fair escarp]

What ?

[rose nova]

minorities being pros

[unreal crystal]

They don’t care for the vets

never have

[muted cypress]

i've done 2 levels alr

[unreal crystal]

Just the way it goes

[muted cypress]

so thats 2 cosmetics im never getting

is that correct

[raw shard]

I mean they're random drops

[hybrid rain]

Yes

[rose nova]

u prob get em on the next levels just ur apparel might be a bit more restricted to being completed

[fair escarp]

If you didn't get any drops. Yes... Until they finally bend and go for a solution that gives all cosmetics to everyone which will need to have some way to get penalized people to get them too

[muted cypress]

hahaha

[sharp owl]

can somone @ me in the lfg na east server, i cant find it

[muted cypress]

typical 10cc

[rose nova]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

check ur Channels and Roles

they r hiddin when i join the server

[pine root]

you have tyo go to channel and roles

and enable it

[sharp owl]

thank u guys so much!

[rose nova]

its okii

[junior latch]

not exactly true

but i agree that the situation rn is shitty

[odd cave]

I'm personally going to be extremely disappointed if there's no fix to this for those who already completed things.

I've loved this game from the moment I first played it.

[sharp owl]

the new cosmetics are gonna be dog reskins anyway

[muted cypress]

People who are looking for a full collection of cosmetics are going to lose their shits

[odd cave]

I don't feel it's even slightly okay to penalize people for loving the game too much.

[junior latch]

we did the same thing you did on A2, on A3 digi

feels kinda bad because a friend of us only had time today to play for the week

[odd cave]

I completed two levels

[junior latch]

subjective
i dont mind simple colours

[odd cave]

Yeah, I'm fine with the new cosmetics being simple

I just want a chance to get them

[muted cypress]

i just wanna collect stuffs

[hollow quarry]

There are more stuff made than what’s in the actual game files so the data mined information about cosmetics isn’t 100 % true.

[junior latch]

didnt you intentionally wipe on A2? then nymn probably explained it differently and i didnt understand well

[vagrant veldt]

Alright alright. Nerfed burst, buffed shot sentry. Seems I can try Heavy AAssaukt again.

[odd cave]

Intentionally wiped on A3.

[junior latch]

ahh, same as we then

[odd cave]

It sucks, because I get up at 4am for these launches and my numbers on stream are always nuts

They're some of my most popular content

[hollow quarry]

We were aware but due to unclear reasons (as of now) we missed the mark. There is a plan for R5, 6 and 8.

[odd cave]

So I'm really hoping for a solution on this.

[hollow quarry]

That is just silly. Will we be able to satisfy every vets hopes? No.

[hollow quarry]

Me too buddy

[odd cave]

Even just like...a button. Count how may cosmetics a person has unlocked, compare it to number of levels cleared, give us that many free cosmetic rolls for the disparity.

Button disappears when there is no more disparity.

[junior latch]

yeah. While im also not happy (neither is my squad )
Saying the vets are completely shat on is a very negative view on things

[wicked solstice]

that might cause problems because of the apparel drop changes

R6 and formerly R7 had drop requirements based on optional objectives

[rapid meteor]

welp.Wiki got update and if wiki's number abt Bc is correct, Now sniper>bc in about all aspects, one thing is bc's multishot on smalls but, recoil nerf kinda negates this

[wicked solstice]

so doing clears like that might screw up other peoples apparel

[odd cave]

Then check based on "number of drop requirements satisfied"

You can't possibly tell me you can't count this sort of thing, that'd be silly.

[raw shard]

I don't see why the checks that have been done so far can't just be unchecked

For just R4

[odd cave]

I think that'd be fair

[wicked solstice]

I cleared some of R7 on the old requirements and some on the new requirements, idk exactly what that does. also, I think if it was that simple they would have done it already

[odd cave]

I'd rather err on the side of "ah, people get some extra cosmetics"

[rose nova]

not really, since it wont oneshot smols but its a 5 shot burst u can still use it like that

[junior latch]

is there the same amount of drops now compared to R7 before the ALTs?

[odd cave]

Rather than deprive people

[junior latch]

this

[odd cave]

I'm not gonna screech because someone got something without completing "everything"

I'm not that elitist

[rapid meteor]

as i said, one thing. tbh in this runs we will come back to sniper/hel gun meta

sadge

[jovial thistle]

the year is 2057, r8 releases, joe nobody doesn't get a cosmetic drop on r8a32 and posts a negative review on steam

[rose nova]

well if u so desire and think its best sures

hel gun got nerfed a lil bit ksks

but just a tiny bit

[odd cave]

These are just my personal opinions, for the record.

[wispy bluff]

Good thing I always wait for day 1 patch first, eh

[rapid meteor]

after past buffs to charge up time this nerf is quite miserable

[odd cave]

I'm in here talking because I care, and I want to give my opinions based on what I'd like to see as a reasonable solution to make players happy.

[hollow quarry]

Focus now is to fix the problem, then we can talk about the missed opportunities

[junior latch]

Sniper vs BC

Smalls - BC (still better, if you kill 1 enemy per refill its the same value, and burst cannon can kill way more)
Chargers - BC (same thing here, nothing actually changed for it)
Bosses - (M -> BC, T -> slight sniper, PM, slight sniper)
Giants -> sniper
hybrids -> sniper
BBC -> BC
scout -> sameish
c scout -> BC
baby -> bc

[odd cave]

That's a fair priority list

[muted cypress]

just a tiny bit?

[rose nova]

maybs

[muted cypress]

do u even play the current hel gun

[rose nova]

i didnt tried it tbh

i tried machinegun pr i didnt had time

i just saw the patchnotes

D:

im sorry

[rapid meteor]

you wuold use bc for babies xd?

[junior latch]

sniper barely changed lol
choke mod is still better vs tank for example

[junior latch]

if i need to yes. (rarely the case )

[hollow quarry]

Eating some dinner, ping me if you want

[rose nova]

enjoy ur meal

[raw shard]

on god I would use sniper for babies

[rose nova]

!!

[rapid meteor]

❤️

[placid summit]

Does this mean we gotta beat the mission again to get the cosmetics if the 1st time completing the map? (Assuming after the fix)

[muted cypress]

i know for a fact that lot of hel gun users will prob go back to hcp and choke mod after this change

[severe shell]

Anyone know if the cosmetic unlocks they will fix tomorrow are going to be new drops for players that have all the objectives for R6, R7, and R1-3?

[rose nova]

yes but the question would b why

[raw shard]

funny

[lavish jay]

You can kill 65 babies with a BC, but only 13 with the sniper 🙏

[junior latch]

HCP?
it got buffed sure, but hel gun got no nerf stat wise outside of fire rate rly

[unreal crystal]

Hel gun still good it just takes time to adjust

[junior latch]

the gun is still rly good imo

[muted cypress]

its not just a nerf to the fire rate

it makes the gunplay feels worse

[junior latch]

THIS
god it feels off from thousands of hours of muscle memory

[raw shard]

The hel gun nerf kinda sucks for muscle memory

yeah

[junior latch]

i legit didnt shoot the first few attempts

my brain just didnt work

[rose nova]

ksks

now u need to recalculate ur auto clicker

to really spam it

[unreal crystal]

I used it for a few levels and got the hang of it

But it’s very weird

[junior latch]

yep
i didnt use it much yet

wanted to try other guns

mostly machine guns and heavy ar

[unreal crystal]

Arbalist felt ok

[junior latch]

they feel fun again (arbalist and HAR)

dont know how good they are yet

arbalist feels sick to hold smaller waves

super easy to hit shots

[rose nova]

yeah but i feel like u can get overwhelmed easily tho cause its not a high fire rate :^
its still very awesome tho i kinda like it lots more

[junior latch]

can stop 3-4 enemies melee quite easily due to instant stagger

[thick temple]

i suppose that's fair enough
but i hope you guys do actually get it sorted out so this doesn't happen again
cause, i understand that stuff happens, just since this was an issue creeping in from at least like ar2's drop that people were worried about just made it feel like a big "Really dude?" moment

[muted cypress]

how does arbalist compared to veruta now?

the hit to the ammo count is kind of a turn off

[rose nova]

its a lot more
different but
u will also notice the dmg buff a lot more

[unreal crystal]

Hitting headshots with arbalist felt very nice

[junior latch]

yea

[muted cypress]

i might give it a try then

[junior latch]

i wish they lowered fire rate even more and increased dmg even more

making it a real heavy hitter mg

[muted cypress]

had to go back to Veruta after what they did to hel gun

[rose nova]

for me is aight for a machinegun

[visual lily]

you guys think in a2 extreme there is a log in one of the 3 doors?

[primal harness]

only 60.5 mb update?

[fierce viper]

looking through the lfg posts I notice like everyone is doing rundown 4, is that the new one or something? I also can't seem to get anyone for R1A1

[rose nova]

it is!

[thick temple]

levels are pretty small filesize with how this game works so makes for small updates

[rose nova]

came out today ksks

so thats why everyones doin r4
so

u might

[fierce viper]

that would explain it

[rose nova]

have some trouble findin people to r1

[primal harness]

yeah i am impressed, they reuse all assets

[fierce viper]

I get each rundown is a seperate sort of campaign but would starting on R4 be a good idea?

[thick temple]

i think people generally agree that r4 is the hardest? i think either that or r5, but i think i hear r4 more
so, maybe not r4 specifically

[rose nova]

ummm
probs not a lot
cause r4 is harder

r5 is the hardest one but r4 is next

[fierce viper]

[rose nova]

and in A1 theres already some funky funky
decisions

so

[fierce viper]

what about r7?

[thick temple]

r7a1 is a good level to start with
but after that, if you can should def switch back to r1 after that

but i assume it's a matter of just needing people?

[fierce viper]

ye

[thick temple]

then yeah you're probably gonna have a hard time with anything that's not r4 right now, sorry to tell you

[fierce viper]

thats great timing lol

[serene berry]

sorry you had a rough day at work, i hope you have a better tomorrow

[muted cypress]

Honestly, it's not bad
but I feel like the real winner of this patch is the HAR

[thick temple]

autopistol being made hel was not something i ever expected so that's kinda neat lol

[hollow quarry]

No worries for me, It’s what I do. More sorry that people want to wait for the patch

[rose nova]

same skmdk its just weird but
nice

[wicked solstice]

only thing I disagree with hard is the Veruta buff

just watched Fireblade's crew perma stagger a birther out of any births using MG's

[muted cypress]

Veruta buff isn't needed but hardly feel like any difference

[wicked solstice]

uhhhh see the message above yours

[serene jewel]

Thoughts on new sentry to people who have played?

[rose nova]

its fine, helps with the staggers but it isnt a replacement for sniper and burst

[junior latch]

no suprise, it went from shit, to at least ok

[wicked solstice]

Auto sentry is useful as a CC tool, staggers sleepers so u can shoot them with more damaging weapons

[rose nova]

aham

its a different take on a sentry

its a bit more situational

how about shotgun sentry did someone tried it?

[junior latch]

you couldve done that before no?

[wicked solstice]

uhhh idk man

[junior latch]

its a 45% buff to stagger, but thats mostly noticeable when hitting smalls in the body

[muted cypress]

as I said, it's not a big deal

[wicked solstice]

i don't recall being able to do that before

[thick temple]

i assume shotty sentry still has the pretty big issue of wasting shots after someone dies

[junior latch]

yea

tho at some point

its just gonna have too much ammo

and it wont matter

its why i think they should just remove it

or change it HEAVILY

it doesnt work

its gonna be broken when it works

and mediocre/bad if it doesnt

[muted cypress]

stagger is nice but the why not take something else that can both stagger and kill small fast instead

im not convinced on the hel pistol yet

[junior latch]

hel pp?

take 1 and completely stop any enemy anywhere from bothering you or your team

its an insane stabilizer for reloads

[wicked solstice]

yeah you can fire it in short bursts and just stop anything moving in front of u

[junior latch]

and when you get pen it actually is pretty decent kill power wise

2dmg on 60 bullets

[muted cypress]

maybe it's useful in surge alarm

[junior latch]

it definetly is

[muted cypress]

but not much anywhere else

[junior latch]

its a specialized main

smth like hel shotty

[thick temple]

support gun

[junior latch]

just different

[muted cypress]

hel shotty can actually delete stuff

[wicked solstice]

did hel shotty get nerfed?

[rose nova]

the good thing is if u want the shootie pistol u got two, the stagger support one and the machine one

also no

[wicked solstice]

no :(

[rose nova]

its the same i think

why u want it to get nerfed?

:^

[thick temple]

calle why haven't you posted on the subreddit yet

[hollow quarry]

I am bad. Other stuff happened 😉

[muted cypress]

I really dig the increased fire rate

it feels like an AR now

[thick temple]

understandable, have a good day

[hollow quarry]

Thanks 🙂

[thick temple]

❤️

[serene berry]

what do we think the % is of players who cleared every rundown including E levels since R6 came out that are on this server?

[serene jewel]

3

[wicked solstice]

uhhh based on server total?

[rose nova]

prob more than 7

[wicked solstice]

like maybe less than 1 if I had to guess

[serene berry]

how many people who are Reddit / Steam comments only that actually will run tinto the cosmetic problem?

[wicked solstice]

as a percentage it's gotta be super low, this server has like over 200,000 people

[junior latch]

even just taking people online right now and saying 1000 people did that, that would only be 2% at best

if you include running into it

that probably lowers even more

since not everyone plays on day 1

[serene berry]

holy cannoli, so i am genuinely curious if these cosmetic warning even need to be posted to the Subreddit or Steam lol

[junior latch]

and even missing like 4-5 levels in r6 or smth makes it not happen immediatly

[serene jewel]

From what I saw, no

At least on steam

[junior latch]

they should

1% is a pretty big group already for a game

[serene jewel]

But that was almost an hour ago by now

[edgy plover]

I mean R3D1 already didn't give me a cosmetic so seeing this is nothing new lmao

[serene berry]

they should! thats true, just wondering how many people its trying to reach with that warning through those channels

[edgy plover]

I also did DM Calle about it so the devs were aware

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rose nova]

now im just confused

[serene jewel]

🤨

[serene berry]

help us help you, whats up?

[rose nova]

why is it a thing now and then just not last rundown

why is this the only case

surely its gotta be another problem

not the lack of apparel

[lavish jay]

Because people are only now running out of cosmetics to unlock

[edgy plover]

Those who unlocked cosmetics from optionals in R6 hit the wall at the end of R3 ALT

Before the system was changed to "Main only"

[quick sable]

I've gotten everything from R6-now and unless the new apparel is incredible, I don't really give a shit that I now get to miss out on rolls for all of the A tier levels + secondaries 🤷

(I'll wait for the patch for the rest though)

[lavish jay]

There are currently enough cosmetics to allow for 46 unlocks.

There are 45 expeditions currently in the game.

Factoring in the removed R6 expeditions (and the non-main sectors back when non-mains provided unlocks)...

[rose nova]

did i missed when people said they didnt got unlocks for d1

i might have i guess

[edgy plover]

I mean I doubt they will add 12 new cosmetics so eh

[junior latch]

there also were drops that happened when you cleared any expidition no?

[hollow quarry]

I’ve answered one comment about on the Steam announcement but there is no need for a separate post

[junior latch]

plus, i dont remember. but how many unlocks did r7 give with optionals vs with main onlys

[jovial thistle]

I'd still be playing right now if there was confirmation that doing so wouldn't lock me out of getting cosmetics forever

[thick temple]

There were prob ones for story missions?

[serene berry]

i did not notice people call it out

[quick sable]

wasn't it like set goalposts for unlocks? Like every 2 mains, every 2 extremes, every 1 overload?

[edgy plover]

Oh well I'm going to wait til the patch anyway and if I do play I'm just going to alt f4 at extraction

[serene berry]

especially on launch, since it changed once altR1 came out

[junior latch]

no i meant events like tiger mask and such

[quick sable]

Ah like timed ones

[serene berry]

i never made an attempt to count cosmetics in the pool vs opportunity. i am just an R7 baby

[quick sable]

I think for R6/7 it was only the release mask

[edgy plover]

There are..
21 Helmets
9 Torso
10 Legs
12 Backpacks
19 Palettes

Counting general pool, timed exclusives and the early adopter

[hollow quarry]

And people experiencing the issue had in general 71 unlock triggers

Adds up

[edgy plover]

[tough oxide]

any idea at what time tomorrow the patch will drop

[hollow quarry]

It will probably be around 10-11 CEST

[edgy plover]

@hollow quarry If there is data about the amount of unlocks per account, wouldn't it technically be possible to detect that and see if those players have completed x amount of missions and then retroactively give them apparel for those clears?

[tough oxide]

cool thx :)

[quick sable]

that sounds like a good amount of work to think about after plenty of other tasks

[hollow quarry]

In theory, but only new clears registers

[edgy plover]

Then again I assume there won't be 13 or more new apparel added in this patch so uhh

[hard shale]

Do have any brazilian here in this server?

[quick sable]

I feel like just make the last mission completion in r8 unlock everything and who cares in the meantime

[rose nova]

theres a server in #hc-latin-america

[hard shale]

ty

[rose nova]

its aight

[edgy plover]

If Azul Tinto isn't unlockable in tomorrow's patch I will riot

[rose nova]

wheres my rojo colorado

[sullen steppe]

awhhh yeah

patch notes baybeee

Sniper Rifle: Slightly increased ammo

[junior latch]

it didnt even get buffed to the 4.0 per refill we all wanted

its 3.91

[sullen steppe]

WOW

[junior latch]

like bruh

[rose nova]

HAH

[junior latch]

but hey, 1 extra bullet max
biggest buff tho is you can get 69% sniper ammo

[sullen steppe]

NOW THATS WHAT I CALL A BUFF

any stats on the HCP?

[junior latch]

check wiki chat for all stats

[sullen steppe]

ty

[rough robin]

Damn we got actual gun balance changes

But no bullpup changes :(

[rose nova]

and the world its still fine

[junior latch]

bullpup just too good

[rose nova]

:]

bullpup is too broken

[junior latch]

also PR overbuffed?

[serene berry]

lul

[rose nova]

it got like
3 secs donwload and not 3.2
so

nerf it

pls

[rough robin]

Needs a 10s reload imo

[junior latch]

3.3 instead of 3.6 now

[rough robin]

With a QTE to not fumble and drop the mag

[edgy plover]

They can't buff bullpup, there must always be one gun that is a total shitshow

[rose nova]

OH GOD TOO MUCH

[sullen steppe]

that gun is gonna take over the game

0.3 seconds off the reload

[rough robin]

Pain.

[serene berry]

you gotta win, not draw a game of tic-tak-toe to reload the PR now

[wicked solstice]

DbD skillchecks to burst cancel

[hollow quarry]

I think this evening calls for coffee

[spare violet]

Make to you rest Calle

[wicked solstice]

gonna be a long night?

[spare violet]

This is somewhat of a threat as a person who cares about your well being

[junior latch]

@spare violet says the right one here lol

go sleep

[spare violet]

It’s unfortunate that everything happened tonight but, can’t be helped that there are genuinely just not enough cosmetics in the game atm lmao

[rough robin]

Speedo cosmetic when

[spare violet]

I’m just happy since I got my speed runner fit

Yellow and lemon head

[edgy plover]

@spare violet

Go bed

[spare violet]

Heya glacius you goober

[wicked solstice]

yeah this is actually funny for people who have wanted a specific cosmetic but haven't been able to get it

[raw shard]

@spare violet go bed

[serene berry]

"have a good day!" 😃
"enjoy the next 24 hours."

[spare violet]

Bitches noooo

[wicked solstice]

they can just go until they get 71 cosmetics

[spare violet]

Can’t tell me what to dooo

[raw shard]

Sleepy time

[spare violet]

[raw shard]

💤

[edgy plover]

[spare violet]

noOOO

I’m already comfy in bed dw

Probably will pass out within the hour

[junior latch]

Now

[spare violet]

Sir I have anxiety when going to bed so

[raw shard]

[edgy plover]

Bed

[spare violet]

I’m being bullied wtf

[edgy plover]

@spare violet It's because you havent done scouts yet

[spare violet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1066922686707683378/1068610028279447623/D1604373-7A2B-41E8-A1C0-46661F9291F4.gif

NOOO

[raw shard]

epic embed fail

[junior latch]

imagine embed failing

[serene berry]

bouncy tho

[spare violet]

I HATE I CANT GIF

real

They real bouncy

Anyways pablo

[wicked solstice]

pablo

[raw shard]

🫵 💤

[edgy plover]

@spare violet Skill issue

[hollow quarry]

That is a bit unfortunate yes 🙂

[hollow quarry]

Just wanna be present and chat. And that would the same even if the release had gone smoothly. Love reading the first reactions

[wicked solstice]

what's your bet on time until first E1 clear?

[cobalt wraith]

Why exactly are we not getting cosmetics on launch day? Technical issues?

[hollow quarry]

Have you slept yet?

[hollow quarry]

I thought I read that it was already cleared?

[wicked solstice]

ah right, I meant until posted clear

[hollow quarry]

But I know Kenny wanted to pause because cosmetics

[wicked solstice]

yeah it's probably been cleared

[serene berry]

missed checkbox from the sounds of it

[uncut haven]

I believe

[serene berry]

they exist, they're just not added yet

[hollow quarry]

We all believe!

[wicked solstice]

honestly, all things considered it's not that bad

[cobalt wraith]

Then why was it glossed over?

[wicked solstice]

GTFO was never about the cosmetics tbf

[hollow quarry]

Glossed over?

[rose nova]

WHAT
im sorry but my heat palette doesnt agree >:3 /j

[placid summit]

Just the thrill of beating a level was enough back then

[serene berry]

because mistakes happen

[wicked solstice]

yeah

[cobalt wraith]

Why are we not getting the cosmetics fix today?

[wicked solstice]

they said they didn't want to rush it iirc

[cobalt wraith]

If you have found the issue

[cobalt wraith]

Why don’t they want to rush it?

[hollow quarry]

Because we want to make sure that everything we add works and 10 Chambers don't crunch.

[cobalt wraith]

Noted

[wicked solstice]

honestly understandable

one of my rules of thumb for coding is unless there is something direly and functionally wrong with my code is to never push out small fixes in the same day, simply to avoid messing up other things and take a step back

[hollow quarry]

It's not optimal patching on a Friday, but that risk we are willing to take

In this case

[rose nova]

patch in the secret day between friday and saturday

:3

[cobalt wraith]

Nonetheless it’s still a problem

[shut vapor]

Better than releasing on a Friday and patching on Saturday

[hollow quarry]

Very true 🙂

[junior latch]

b-b-but others could push it out in 10 minutes and only have bugs we dont care about!

[hollow quarry]

Darnit!

[wicked solstice]

if they're taking the time to make sure that it doesn't break anything else, let them

[junior latch]

also, posted my current „issues“ on r4 in spoiler chat

[serene berry]

everyone agrees on that

[rose nova]

what if i wanna break stuff /j

[hollow quarry]

(To be clear, I don't wanna seem like joking or glossing over it. Stuff happen, we have a plan to fix it)

[wicked solstice]

then do it alone sir

unless ur doing R7D1/2 remix, then I'll join u

[rose nova]

r7d12??

whats this extension

[wicked solstice]

there is uhhh

a silly thing u can do

:3

[rose nova]

ohh
like playin r1a3 >:3

[wicked solstice]

where you can create surges of shadow giants and chargers

:333

[rose nova]

ah that ik

u sent me the thing ksmdk

we need to do it one day

[wicked solstice]

i call it the remix level

i wonder if it works on the tank door

[rose nova]

would b fun

[harsh merlin]

is gtfo possible with just two people?

[tough oxide]

wait does that mean even if i wait until tomorrow, there might still be not enough cosmetics in the game? :C

[junior latch]

yes. With or without bots

but since theres no difficulty scaling its a lot harder

[hollow quarry]

There will be enough

[rose nova]

ohh ominous

[modern coral]

Duo is the lowest amount of people I'd say that the entire game is actually realistically clearable at.

[sullen steppe]

what do we think of the arbalist changes?

[modern coral]

Excessively hard, but doable.

[sullen steppe]

it sounds good

[rose nova]

its pretty neato

[harsh merlin]

thank you ! :-)

[rose nova]

arbalist its more special now rather than just being another mg but funks

[modern coral]

It's more of an MG and less unique, but as a consequence it's significantly stronger.

[sullen steppe]

what do you mean by less unique?

more like the HAR?

[modern coral]

It's more like Veruta.

[rose nova]

i think its more unique

[modern coral]

Has almost identical breakpoints.

[rose nova]

ah u mean stats

i guess

yeah in that case they r similar but they play very differently

[sullen steppe]

I thought the Veruta had less damage but way more rounds?

doesn't think make the arbalist more different?

[muted cypress]

Way more ammo capacity

[fierce viper]

wait something I just realised why are people lfging for R4 in beginners if R4 is the newest rundown

[muted cypress]

U can run dry on Har pretty quick if u use it like a main

[sharp siren]

Arbalist its like har but laser beam

[cobalt wraith]

Y not

[rose nova]

aham came out today :]

[sharp siren]

You have no recoil

[fierce viper]

yeah but isn't it one of the harder ones? thats what it sounded like earlier when I asked about rundown in general

[cobalt wraith]

*was

[modern coral]

Not really, the changes mean they're the same

[rose nova]

w whu?

[serene berry]

lots of people would new play A levels without clearing previous E levels i would imagine

[modern coral]

Switch between efficient bursts and spray down on swarms

[rose nova]

no they arent the arbalist is much slowe rwith more dmg now

[sullen steppe]

yeah, i'm confused

arbalist sounds like less dakka-dakka-dakka-dakka and more DUM-DUM-DUM-DUM

bigga boolet

[rose nova]

arbalist shoots a bit slower while havin more dmg and less ammo, it has not a lot of recoil
Veruta, the other machinegun shoots hella lot faster, has more recoil and lots more bullets

there kmsdk

[cobalt wraith]

Thankfully we got a shell casing buff

[rose nova]

thank u lord

[muted cypress]

I would still take Veruta over HAR or Arbalist into deeper levels

[rose nova]

im gonna take arbalist ways more

since im bad at aiming

[modern coral]

Can't reply in detail rn, but do the math

DPS is the same

TTK is the same

[rose nova]

yeah stats like i said

but they play n feel different

[modern coral]

They feel different

they do not play different

they are literally the same

[rose nova]

... um
yeah whatevs

[analog flicker]

[storm quartz]

On has charge-up the other doesn't, that already makes it less enticing

[analog flicker]

Me: bigger boolat

[sullen steppe]

does the increased recoil reduce the effective range of the big boolet?

so they're both basically short range bullet hoses?

[modern coral]

Horizontal recoil is the main factor, it seemed fine iirc.

[analog flicker]

Medium technically aren't they

[modern coral]

But you can use both at medium range

[sullen steppe]

fair

[storm dragon]

So like wait did we get new guns in the pool this time round'

[sullen steppe]

imma give the big boy boolets a spin

[analog flicker]

Close range for the hip fire shooters

[sullen steppe]

i'm all about that high-cal

[lavish jay]

V has more damage per mag, XII deals more damage from max ammo

[serene berry]

ypu, check #patch-notes

[rose nova]

autopistol and auto sentry plus a lot of nerfs buffs n stuff!

[lavish jay]

Autopistol.

[analog flicker]

While these MG changes are nice

[rose nova]

and auto sentry >w>

[analog flicker]

My BC can't 1 shot body a striker anymore

[modern coral]

Might be fair to think of it as longer range but less economical.

Hard to say rn, though

[analog flicker]

[modern coral]

Very fresh

[sullen steppe]

yeah

i'll give it a go

autopistol sounds like an automatic version of the hel-shotgun

[junior latch]

hel pp

be pretty fun

[sullen steppe]

but with less kill potential

[lavish jay]

without the shotgun

[junior latch]

but way less dmg

it needs the pen to kill

in any way efficiently

[storm dragon]

Is the new machine pistol solid?

[rose nova]

eh kinds but more bullets

more more bullets

[muted cypress]

Just take hel shotgun

[junior latch]

while hel shotty and revo are fine without pen

[junior latch]

its not about bullets alone

[rose nova]

its a coop gun, its a stagger gun with lots of bullets
its nice when in a team and some levels

[rose nova]

nah nah autopistol is noice

[storm dragon]

so its alot like Standard Handgun

[rose nova]

i guess u mean the normal main pistol
um not really, its a lot more for um cooperation, it can kill but it has low damage and it has a very big mag so u can spray it a lot more

[muted cypress]

Still no sway bug fix?

[storm dragon]

Yeah like the regular pistol has high stagger so you can kinda pepper each target and let homies finish people off

Tbh it would be kinda nice if they just had a firing range feature

[rose nova]

yeah with the difference regular pistol two shots, even if it does stagger it has lots of dmg n stuff, the autopistol is more like machinepistol but instead of close quarters combat is stagger stuf

[junior latch]

pistol staggers on each hit but can kill in 3 shots

Hel pp staggers on each hit but needs to burst a target down with like 10-15 bullets

[storm dragon]

i get what you're saying

[junior latch]

hel pp is machine pistol with bigger mag, more ammo but less dmg for way more stagger and pen

if you pen its actually rly good

if you dont its strictly support

[rose nova]

qwq

[muted cypress]

Rifle also exists you know

[junior latch]

yep, which is pistol + with worse efficiency (that rarely matters at all)

[rose nova]

it isnt at all the same

autopistol n rifle i mean

well i guess they share some

stuff but

[junior latch]

yeah cuz pistol and hel pp arent either

[rose nova]

even so

[muted cypress]

It stagger at any distance + can actually kill stuff

[storm dragon]

I dunno tbh i still will probably run Glock + Pump shotgun every level but

[rose nova]

the rifle has a limited mag, limited ammo and needs headshots to really be efficient
autopistol is bonker

[storm dragon]

good to know

[rose nova]

i would say in case u havent u try all the guns, all of em
n see whatcha like n what not

[junior latch]

only hel shotty comes close to hel pp stagger at all

[misty steeple]

what rundows are peoplke doing? I have been sitting in match making forever

[rose nova]

dont use ingame matchmaking
is gross
no one uses it
use the lfg channels!!

[storm dragon]

I mean most are pretty good but i feel like handgun and shotgun is such a good all arounder combo it doesnt make me feel bad at any specific thing

[rose nova]

.t lfg

[foggy plank]

Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania / #lfg-africa / #lfg-beginners.

If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.

[rose nova]

just some advice, rundown 4 just came out so ur not gonna have people doin r1, but if ur new that should be ur starting point
so maybe do a couple runs with bots but still try to get people
other than that
ask to not be carried, be sure to do the tutorial first [Training], and make sure that everyone joinin ur lobby joins ur vc

[rose nova]

fairs enough
i just rotate around a lot cause i feel every gun has their place on a lvl
i like shottie but the low range is just aaa sometimes

[sullen steppe]

so the autopistol turns you into an autosentry?!>!?

YOU CAN BECOME STUMBLE

[serene berry]

hello, its me:

[storm quartz]

You become a better auto sentry really

[junior latch]

especially since you dont keep shooting like an idiot (hopefully)

[storm quartz]

With pierce you shouldn't ever get hit

[junior latch]

Shooters are honestly the only thing

[wispy bluff]

"I do not know how to impress upon you that physical damage does nothing to my body"

[quartz cape]

Luckily playing gtfo deals psychic damage to the player

[junior latch]

what if someone is dark type?

[quartz cape]

uh

[serene berry]

uhh

[quartz cape]

Shut up, nerd

[serene berry]

if gtfo were a pokemon it would be dark/steel right

[quartz cape]

Is aneurysm a type

[junior latch]

dark/poison?

[quartz cape]

dauda/fog?

[rose nova]

sandwich/earth?

[little ridge]

Dauda is good

good dauda

[serene berry]

hmm poison and/or electric for some levels, maybe thats the mega evolution

[wet mica]

dauda fixed voicelines when? :(

[quartz cape]

Probably never

[serene berry]

ya

it seems like tracking down the voice actor again might be the issue, i bet those lines just weren't recorded

[wet mica]

Damn shame

[quartz cape]

Can we sentence mix them

[serene berry]

getting clean recordings to give to an AI might be tough, but after that 1000% we could

[little ridge]

Maybe if we get some Statistics on it

[wet mica]

cant wait for him to be like Payday 2 Wolf

"A FUCKING- Medi-"

[quartz cape]

I’ll get back to you on that one

[little ridge]

This BOX is BEEEG

[wet mica]

Thuh monstahs are Beeeg, wot do you theenk they are doing here?

[quartz cape]

He’s just missing no, please, and nice, right?

[little ridge]

I think he has "no"

?

[serene berry]

he has no lol

just not the kind ones

He has good job

[quartz cape]

so just please and nice?

[serene berry]

nice and thank you i believe? but ya just two

[quartz cape]

I bet we can find some substitutes in the unused voice lines

[serene berry]

if we grab all the unused we def have enough to mix two new lines, that would take a level of audio expertise i don't have but it can be done

[barren lantern]

How's the rundown computer broke so I can't play :p

[serene berry]

have someone walk up to and away from the terminal?

that can reset terminals

[wispy bluff]

Broken. Cosmetics don't drop.

[modern coral]

Yo, are we the only vet team actually playing the game rn?

No clear posters.

[wispy bluff]

Yes.

No cosmetics no game.

[modern coral]

Omegalul

[wispy bluff]

I'll be waiting for at least 1 patch and confirmation that it works.

[modern coral]

World first AltR4E1, here we come.

[jade iron]

only done trios so far

too many players to warrant posting clears

[jade iron]

also this

what's the point of playing if you don't get any reward

😭

[modern coral]

Cringe R6 players.

[jade iron]

hey I started in r5

[wispy bluff]

Playing for reward > playing to win for the sake of win

[modern coral]

That's like R4 players that say "I started in R3"

We all know when they really got into the game.

[jade iron]

rayalot is feisty today, I see

[sullen steppe]

Playing to avoid problems in your life > playing for the satisfaction of winning

[serene berry]

god does that make me an Alt R 1 player

cringe

[junior latch]

im kinda happy that i dont have to worry about clearing all of it today

my og party only played for like 2 hours and we had 1 guy who never saw any of the levels in r4 (also i have more hours than the 3 of them combined lol)
and my vet party is only starting in 1 hour, so i wont get to play past like b1 maybe

i dont rly mind no new drip, since ive got mine. But i am completionist so id love to have it all

[serene berry]

after R8 comes out, I really hope there's a way to earn the backlog of drip

[jade iron]

I'm enjoying r4 so far

[junior latch]

honestly im most hyped for experiencing some of the rare things i didnt back in r4 (stuff like r4c2pe) and speedrunning r4

[jade iron]

can't wait for the r4 vets to catalogue the nerfs

[serene berry]

*lootpool drip specifically

[modern coral]

I am alt tabbing between chat and R4D2 rn, so I have to be quippy.

[junior latch]

no giant spawns in r4a1 2nd zone

[serene berry]

I honestly am, I love the minutia and ins and outs

[jade iron]

it isn't really sarcasm

[tough oxide]

my guess would be that once you complete all lvls in all rundowns after r8 (last rundown as far as i know) is out, they just unlock the remaining cosmetics since there wont be any other way to get them otherwise

[jade iron]

so much as just kinda calling gtfo-chat like clockwork

[modern coral]

That was always RNG, tho.

p sure

[junior latch]

i havent had it happen in 12 loads now

(im mostly just running in solo (now in r7d2 trying guns) and checking stuff)

[modern coral]

That group is different

[junior latch]

hm

[modern coral]

00 got changed, random giants are in 01 now (which used to be random scouts, which is 02 now).

[junior latch]

?

random scouts in r4a1?

main

o.O

[modern coral]

No, it's always been 00

Type 0 difficulty 0

[junior latch]

ray

speak english pls

[echo oyster]

Does anyone know why Im not getting any apparels when I complete a level?

[junior latch]

i know giants could spawn in r4a1 main 2nd zone (the one where fog is slightly yellowish due to light)

[serene jewel]

Bugged

[junior latch]

check game announcements

[serene jewel]

Patch will release sometime tomorrow

[echo oyster]

How to unbug?

[serene jewel]

Wait

[junior latch]

check game announcements

[echo oyster]

Oh okay

[modern coral]

The enemy group that used to have a chance for giants doesn't anymore.

Changed in R6

[serene berry]

good call, calling it bugged is faster

[junior latch]

ah

that sucks

[earnest sinew]

uhm, so how is this apparel bug affects us? I get reward for the mains. tho I dont see if Secondaries and Overloads have rewards. even tho I did R4A1 with secondary

[analog flicker]

A portion of players who have unlocked basically all rewards since r6

Are affected iirc

[analog flicker]

Might need a specific number of Secondary/overload clears

Check the apparel objectives

[earnest sinew]

so, there are no rewards right now for doing overloads, and secondaries or that how it supposed to be in R4 now? (sorry not native english speaker) ((plus im standing at the end of B1 nearly, and dont wanna miss a secondary if i do now... tho waiting for this damn liquid visual bug to go away lol)

[analog flicker]

I haven't seen the Apparell objective/launched the game since the update started myself but you may need more secondary/overload clears

[earnest sinew]

if i remember correctly..I got 1 pants for R4A1. (did main and secondary aswell), I think the description was "Unknown".

well I try to finish B1 with the secondary now, I hope im not gonna miss out on something. I missed 1 overload on R6 which I heard has some sexy apparel, ever since im mourning . 😄

[analog flicker]

I mean.

[storm quartz]

you don't get any apparel from Secondary or Overload

Only from main

[analog flicker]

In r6 the different difficulties. Had different loot pools

[earnest sinew]

and thats not a bug right?

oh okay

[storm quartz]

that's how it's supposed to be

There is something going around that only affects people that played when there were rewards for Optionals and completed all of them

[earnest sinew]

oooookay i see. I played a bit R4 in solo when came out back in 2021~ or 2020~ ish... stopped and came back at R6 so. yeah got confused here a bit.

[steel parcel]

What does blunthead rounds mean

[lavish jay]

In what context? (where did you see them mentioned?)

[little ridge]

AFAIK they were rng on OG

[devout pulsar]

hello everyone

[serene berry]

sup

[fierce viper]

how feasible do you guys think soloing until I have the skill for the other rundowns is, or should I just dive straight into the deep end of R4

[little ridge]

Do the other rundowns first

at least 1-2-3

[lofty grotto]

GASP!!! I just saw the patch notes and sees “Sniper ammo increased”….

Hell YES!

[mystic moss]

It's only 1 extra bullet in reserve and 4 bullets per ammopack

[lavish jay]

enjoy your extra bullet

[lofty grotto]

… just one?

I’ll take it

[lavish jay]

3.91 per resupply btw (up from 3.6)

[lofty grotto]

Still! I get one more bullet to use the sniper more!

I also saw the Arbalist upgrade at ammo reduction…

That would be interesting

[lavish jay]

(full stats are live on the wiki if that's of any use to you)

[lofty grotto]

Nah. I’ll see for myself ingame when I’m able

[wicked solstice]

new arbalest feels great

[lofty grotto]

Dammit! You making me choose between Arbalist and Sniper

[wicked solstice]

do arbalest

sniper has 1 more bullet, arbalest fundamentally changed

[shut vapor]

Take choke mod

[lofty grotto]

I don’t do Close range well

[shut vapor]

Decrease your fov, makes everything bigger

[lofty grotto]

No

[analog flicker]

Where your guns aim has more fov

[shut vapor]

55 fov and proud

[lofty grotto]

Mine has always been default

XD

[analog flicker]

DefaultFoVGamers

I personally play at 100

[lofty grotto]

I don’t want to change much of my settings cuz I’m afraid that changing it could affect my ability to game

[analog flicker]

120 just feels like it begins warping the view a bit

[shut vapor]

I would go lower but it's too much effort to relearn