isle-discussion

[oblique geyser]

❌

[plain shale]

its a trike actually

[hazy loom]

i see quetz

[chilly burrow]

Makes me think back to the time a massive wasp landed on a fry already half in my mouth, fond memories

[gloomy atlas]

when is the quetz likely to come ? that would be terrifying

[plain shale]

in 10 + years

[hazy loom]

the day it does, im doing another 100 hour run

[dense kestrel]

https://klipy.com/gifs/path-of-titans-kaperoo-7

[cinder cave]

I’ve had 3 wasps crawl up my pajama pants leg when I was but a little lad

[hazy loom]

till than im retired from the isle

[crude girder]

I don’t have pot installed

[chilly burrow]

Fear of wasps is probably the most justified fear one can have

[dense kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/grandyidea-lonely-all-alone-no-one-likes-you-gif-21270934

[crude girder]

I like the isle more than pot

[gloomy atlas]

na that game is trash lol

[chilly burrow]

Those things are aggresive monsters

[grand grotto]

Hi

[dense kestrel]

its a joke lol

[cinder cave]

Same

[gloomy atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-thank-you-jesus-grateful-praise-gif-9591328

[dense kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/rh2-season-3-gif-2216751972410442902

[plain shale]

for real. i have really tried to befriend them but these mfs just WANT to be agressive

[cinder cave]

Sugar gliders too

[plain shale]

really?

[cinder cave]

No I’m just terrified of them

[plain shale]

well at least they look cuter than wasps

[dense kestrel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860702568145354795/1335079313266966689/attachment.gif

[nimble raven]

when bary

[cinder cave]

They look EVIL

[plain shale]

https://tenor.com/view/shino-une-une-chan-sugar-glider-sugar-glider-cute-sleepy-sugar-glider-gif-1034982338216507808

cute

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jumps-120UrZCApKrLTa

[chilly burrow]

best thing is, wasps really like my window (for some reason), said window is also always facing the afternoon sun, so I have to choose between 40 Degrees Celsius or wasps.

[cinder cave]

Spawn of satan

[cinder cave]

Frying pan

[nimble raven]

what does this even mean lmfao

[regal notch]

nah I won't eat this one

[plain shale]

that be ferrets tho

[cinder cave]

Ferrets are cute

[regal notch]

ferrets are friggin cute :(

[plain shale]

they are. i had some. but theyre really satans spawns

[grand grotto]

Baryonx spinosaurus and austro raptor are all upcoming semi aquatics coming to the isle evrima

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/tophermcgee3-denzel-washington-my-man-gictytW9IIIkNGIMcs

[chilly burrow]

No

[grand grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1449708847722795049/HypsiDrpepperThrow.gif

[frail moon]

Cherry

[regal notch]

y e s

[plain shale]

i kinda hope anky is gonna be semi aqua as well. and isnt minmi as well as... oh what was this big one called

[regal notch]

meglania

[plain shale]

nah herby actually

[regal notch]

oh idk jack about herbis

[chilly burrow]

The list was missing multiple semi aquatics that are ‚upcoming‘ depending on your definition of said word

[grand grotto]

It's Sunday btw thought y'all should know

[wheat moth]

Semi-aquatic in that it will need more oxygen than most, since it'll be spending its time under the water when it 'swims'.

[chilly burrow]

thanks

[regal notch]

we've also beem confirmed 6 months 1 month ago we'll be seeing 'em, and they've been worked on since around the same time as trike according to the devblogs a year ago, they're read and I'm ready

[wheat moth]

Not for the Aussies.

[plain shale]

deinocheirus was what i was searching for

[chilly burrow]

I hope that bary is delayed just to spite you for no legitimate reason

[craggy ridge]

So what's the general consensus when it comes to Prime Elder balancing? Anyone else feel like they're generally overtuned?

[muted basin]

where do stegos normally go. trying to find older ones

[grand grotto]

Depends on the day

[regal notch]

I hope that a seal doesn't find a fish and instead watches it swim away just to spite seals

[chilly burrow]

There is always another fish, yet not another bary added -Sokrates (trust me bro)

[sick kraken]

i think they’re fine being super powerful if every prime is like that, and there’s a tier between prime and frail, and prime is made harder to get. but as is rn yes maybe a little much lol

[oblique geyser]

thanks

[plain shale]

i think the prime/elder system makes the whole game unbalanced

[regal notch]

Bary's already on his way and his cousins not far off

[grand grotto]

I hope strains get prime elders 😋 prime elder hyper rex

[regal notch]

damn no one posted one :( I'm hongry breh

[sick kraken]

stego going from 6 to 9 tons is certainly something!

[plain shale]

and then there is teno

[feral shadow]

GOD NO

[regal notch]

wait.. pepper... ferret?.... peppered ferret...

[sick kraken]

150% weight for prime haha… yeah… okay!

[oblique geyser]

[plain shale]

https://tenor.com/view/crybob-gif-26594976

[grand grotto]

The bigger the dino the larger the prime I think

[wheat moth]

Don't bother them; they're sleeping!

[craggy ridge]

Honestly, I'm slowly warming up to Teno being the most well balanced Prime Dinosaur lmao - It just may not feel like that because of how utterly yoked most other Primes are

[crude girder]

Buff teno

[sick kraken]

well they gain more total weight sure but the % gain should be relatively similar

[plain shale]

it should have more weight. it only gets like 200kg thats nothing

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-gif-14922675818058709477

[grand grotto]

Expect deino ofc

[craggy ridge]

Lowkey.. I kinda think most Prime Weight Buffs should resemble the weight Buff Teno receives lmao

[crude girder]

Make teno like 2 tons

[leaden cobalt]

Nerf bear

[wheat moth]

Tenonto has remained the most balanced playable for years now. It's very impressive. Very humble.

[plain shale]

or not getting slower tho. id be okay with that as well. its getting way to slow for that tiny bit of weight it gets

[crude girder]

WOW! I can’t believe this

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Kx7HhNYKpFzDAl3TJz

[sick kraken]

i’m fine with deino because it was at one point gonna never stop growing, so it’s cool that atleast it’s elder gains a ton

[regal notch]

I also motion to nerf bear

[leaden cobalt]

I believe in the bear

[craggy ridge]

Truly, the Swamp Donkey is the peakest The Isle playable

[chilly burrow]

I like bears

[sick kraken]

if deino had infinite growth rn oh man. i would hate it

[regal notch]

Also nerf seals

[grand grotto]

5 whole tons of weight that's like 5 tons of cheese worth of weight

[wheat moth]

Perhaps, yes!

[sick kraken]

that’s a lot of cheese

[regal notch]

quite frankly, nerf animals altogether

[feral shadow]

top 5 best playables:

1. pachy
2. teno
3. maia
4. dibble
5. Trike

[chilly burrow]

Bary has officialy lost its seal of approval

[grand grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-sea-lion-sealion-spinna-gif-6572328635488597288

[cinder cave]

Make prime less powerful and frail more powerful, lessen the distance a little

[crude girder]

Pachy getting destroyed by everything:(

[craggy ridge]

Yeah, the slowdown is way too steep... I also think most Primes that get a speed buff shouldn't, specifically Rex, the most privileged ass playable in this ass game

[wheat moth]

I sense herbivore bias.

[vapid pumice]

you are a herbivore

[crude girder]

Honestly like rework pachys charge or something

[plain shale]

troodon, you forgot troodon.. the only thing that sucks a lot is how slow it is at the beginning. and still nobody know what this was about. they said some preparation for nice things but like... nothing happened

[regal notch]

oh we're being serious, make prime not a buff and frail a punishment for being an afk bush sitter

[wheat moth]

https://tenor.com/view/cynthia-erivo-shines-in-paris-with-unique-hat-style-notpunkanymore-cynthia-erivo-cynthia-erivo-hat-cynthia-erivo-meme-gif-10239612863483000283

[feral shadow]

i was gonna put deino above trike

[urban comet]

You want some schizo esoteric speculation?
Elders and entombing is what AE wants the dinosaurs to do, it is the cycle of rebirth the endless loop, trapped never able to take down the machine.
What if strains are breaking out of that loop, you sacrfice everything to gain the power to fundamentally change the ecosystem. They can't have elders, they will never grow old, a god does not age, it gets slain.

[wheat moth]

So why didn't you?

[blissful shoal]

because its attacks are all defensive and rear oriented and its speed is not that high, which means its still not that oppressive even if its op. And because its attacks have solid range and cc while being rear focused, it has a good ways to limit what even a strong opponent can do and tools to counter many playstyles. Plus it doesnt recieve many changes so its just stayed as an easy gold standard of balance since the game's launch.

[feral shadow]

i just love ceratopsians so much

[blissful shoal]

pachy and maia are very cool

[grand grotto]

Hypers would starve rather then die by combat

[urban comet]

Eat the rich

[craggy ridge]

I really just can't help but feel a lot of Primes get too heavy for their own good and it skews the game balance way out of whack... Prime Rex vs Non-Prime Trike is actual Thermo-Nuke Vs Coughing Baby ahh matchup, especially for Trike who literally does not get anyway out of a fight...

[grand grotto]

I alr do that dawg

Jeff Basil 😋

[wheat moth]

Its claw attack not withstanding, this looks pretty much spot-on.

[plain shale]

i disliked that elder system from beginning on and i still do

[urban comet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/smiling-friends-psychicpebbles-2

[blissful shoal]

yeah most primes are incredibly overtuned, its basically be prime or die to a prime

[chilly burrow]

Hypsi is the best playable, no competition

but pleasssseeeee make it not launch you into low earth orbit when you jump against a slightly upside-down surface

[blissful shoal]

claw still requires you to stop running, which makes it a much more defensive attack still

[urban comet]

It actually solos the whole roaster by the rules of powerscaling

[grand grotto]

You guys think If we sent Rick to Tartarus austro would come sooner? 🤔

[indigo cave]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855535605178171422/1479619393318162473/SPOILER_twitter-gif-2030032512613806435_69ab6079c4040.gif

[plain shale]

i wish it was faster tho. id play it more often to spit in peoples faces lol

[manic fulcrum]

Well my Omni died to a Carno

[wheat moth]

Oh, I thought it was changed. Did I-

One sec.

[plain shale]

lol ive watched that today

[chilly burrow]

I just like beeing invincible to fall dmg and basically playing observer mode

[wheat moth]

The feck did this come from?

[urban comet]

big birb slander is not appreciated.

[plain shale]

from the new netflix series

[manic fulcrum]

Maybe I play Cerato

[wheat moth]

Oh. How slanderous.

[regal notch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCWRq90jPcw

Bary waiting for me be like

[grand grotto]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1449909319469629631/togif.gif

[indigo cave]

So called big bird when it weights a whole 2 kilos

[stone tiger]

Rook you delightful overly confident alligator enjoyer

[blissful shoal]

unless it was snuck under the radar for teno (or I flat out missed it) alt attacks can't be used unless you stop running

[feral shadow]

thats still pretty big

[regal notch]

okay ngl the netflix documentary was.... kinda mid

[wheat moth]

WhiteFalcon, you respectable dilo appreciator.

[chilly burrow]

Anyways, it‘s 10:40pm and I got school tomorrow, good night, happy hunting, or whatever would be an appropriate the Isle™ Goodbye

[craggy ridge]

Im probably in the minority on this but across the board, most Prime Elders could really use a weight reduction... Prime Rex really ought to be 10.3 tons peak and Prime Trike 10.5 tons peak (And killlll Speed buff on Prime Rex ffs)

Maia, Dibble, Allo and Cera really all could use a Prime weight reduction too imo but those are less egregious than the larger tiers (Especially since, at the very least, Allo and Cera get Slower)

[plain shale]

you can use it when trotting if i remember correctly. it alsow as good for fghting off raptors. when they pounce against ur face. but it doesnt seem to work. they all of a sudden hang on your side when jumping your face

[regal notch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Cz6TlrRVVyv9S gl furthering your eductation for a bright future HAHA!!!!!!

[indigo cave]

Interior crocodile alligator

[regal notch]

you can sue it for trotting

[wheat moth]

I must have imagined it then

[chilly burrow]

I don’t care about beeing less sleepy in school, I just wanna have less headache from loud classroom

[regal notch]

just knock out everyone making noise obvi

[blissful shoal]

Yeah you can still use them while trotting/walking, and not being able to use it while sprinting def doesnt make it a bad ability, it just makes it defensive.

Though what you're experiencing with omnis there is most likely desync, where they have already latched on your side on their screen before your alt goes out.

[stone tiger]

Say my name

[chilly burrow]

I wish, but I don’t think that battle would end in victory

[regal notch]

it only matters that they lose

[plain shale]

but with every single one ive fought is a little weird. i might have to test that a little more

[stone tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/ai-sponge-moderators-ai-sponge-moderators-gif-2782168709508773407

[chilly burrow]

Aight, I‘ll try my best

Now gn for real

[plain shale]

im out as well. got work

[regal notch]

gn... for seal

[tall hamlet]

am i crazy or is there abug with allosaurus that makes u unable to run if u manage to escape its pin

[plain shale]

https://tenor.com/view/bye-im-out-im-gone-disappear-gif-14773411

[plain shale]

yep

[regal notch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1480056174748373202/ridiculous.mp4?ex=69aef1fa&is=69ada07a&hm=f5c7621770844aa6b8c4f1b637ac8f77e6f8e83d22e8481abee67ab3f853d99e&

might be everything lol

[tall hamlet]

omg i hateeee this dino i genuienly hope some celestial event wipes it from the games files and replaces it with spino

[plain shale]

im in lmao

[tall hamlet]

worst addition to the roster like woah. id rather be locked up against 90 dilos

[sick kraken]

austro… RELEASE

[feral shadow]

that deino juggled you

[regal notch]

I just wanted some gastroliths man :(

[regal notch]

that's no where near as strong rn

[blissful shoal]

I'd personally prefer is most primes were taken down to around teno level boosts, though I do like that some primes get much larger and slow down like cera, but those need extra special attention. Also prob not give any prime a speed boost unless it is a species specifically designed around running/has very little combat potential. Like dryo, galli, hypsi, and maybe troodon and carno getting speed boosts would be fine. But prime rex running nearly as fast as an adult allo or prime pachy running faster than dilos is genuinely crazy

Also maia 100% needs a weight decrease at prime, this thing was borderline op in the right hands before the damage buffs, its def op after the damage buffs, and is a monster with the prime buffs.

[lavish ledge]

Can we get an update

[regal notch]

it's the weekend, devs are off but maybe tomorrow or tuesday 👀

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/cheerleader-jump-emoji-smile-clap-gif-17844435

[blissful shoal]

could also be that the head hitbox doesnt move correctly during the animation or something so they latch on the body anyway

[regal notch]

regarding prime...

#general-feedback message

[blissful shoal]

They can def still stop sprinting for a moment and immediately alt claw, but then that slows them down a lot so they would have needed a good lead before using it offensively.

[tall hamlet]

huh

[regal notch]

90 dilo's are still too weak compared to an allo imo

[tall hamlet]

OH literally lol

[regal notch]

I'd rather be locked in a room with 1 troodon 💀

[tall hamlet]

why is dilos night vision so bad btw, arent they supposed to hunt at night?

[regal notch]

it's good with lumin off wym

[tall hamlet]

rex is fine imo, id nerf its speed and maybe some other things but allo genuienly needs its pounce/pin removed and replaced lmao

[tall hamlet]

lumin?

[coarse nimbus]

It’s lumen

[regal notch]

lupus

[tall hamlet]

ohhh i have lumen on

[coarse nimbus]

Turn off lumen in your settings, it’s for some odd reason making things at night darker than they should be

[formal ridge]

i wonder how far down the line alberto is

[regal notch]

trust, turn it off, it's 1000x better

[oblique geyser]

I enjoyed it

[tall hamlet]

kk i turned it off

[regal notch]

I like how it just leaves the cave and one still pokes its head out like "maybe it's gone"

[oblique geyser]

the magynotsosmartsaurus

[regal notch]

it's like when my doordasher drops the food off and I open the door to check if they're still there only for them to just now be shutting the car door

[urban comet]

Tuff Certified Big Birb classic

[pure parrot]

We all like the biggest bird.

[craggy ridge]

As much as I love Asiatic Elephant size Prime Maia.... yeah it really shouldn't get as big as it does lmao

I fully agree with everything you said. I really like the concept of Elders, Prime and all, and an actual life cycle/gameplay loop they provide, but right now the Primes are way over-tuned, and they really do invalidate young adults specifically way to much.

[regal notch]

I hope Bary isn't just a bleeder ngl

[pure parrot]

If they were going to downsize the maia, they should also have to downsize stego. Both are far above what the real animal could achieve...

To be fair, the base adult Stego is already close to the highest weight estimates.

[craggy ridge]

6-8 Ton Stego I think is actually pretty accurate, I'd have to double check though

[pure parrot]

The highest estimates are in the range of 7 tons.

[craggy ridge]

6T I'm confident is within reason, above that though I'm shakey...

But if we wanna talk about heinous size fraudulence (Barring Primes)

...Hi Dibble

[tough cave]

I crashed came back with 0 % water and 0 % food and died , well done devs of the isle you are truly a wonder of developers

[pure parrot]

But an average adult would have 5

[pure parrot]

deino too

[tough cave]

go sell the game to someone who will at least know what its doing

[regal notch]

alright I'ma sleep again and time travel to tomorrow when we clearly get the update for Bary and I'm not just huffing copium

[craggy ridge]

B-b-b-but they found a 14T Monster Deino 😱

Literal average of 4-5tons lmaoooo

[crude girder]

Early access game is going to be filled with bugs

[tough cave]

yea for 11 years early access, give me a break

plus this was not an issue before the updates, so... every update is more awful

[muted crypt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1467074106183651519/allosaur.gif

[crude girder]

They made 2 different games in those 11 years

[pure parrot]

The paper that came out last year gave deino the "dunkleosteus" treatment; There would be very few Deinosuchus specimens that exceeded 7000 kg.

[crude girder]

Evrima has only been in development for 7 of those years I believe

[tough cave]

yea very low

[crude girder]

[tough cave]

7 years is nothing they need more

[crude girder]

It’s still in development…

[regal notch]

https://tenor.com/view/zelda-the-legend-of-zelda-link-master-sword-ocarina-of-time-gif-5833491

[tough cave]

good maybe ill pass the full game to my grandchilren

[somber urchin]

there are warnings at every stage of purchase and play that you will encounter bugs etc;
its ok to take a break.

[fringe adder]

part of following this game is accepting the glacial development

[urban comet]

Were you low food and water before the crash. Either ways rip brother

[pure parrot]

Currently, the animal that would most realistically best fit the role of the deino would be Purussaurus B.

[bronze rivet]

I need da don to go on live on twitch n showcase bary like he did wit allo 2 times pls

[tough cave]

nope full on both

[craggy ridge]

Bro reawakened my seething rage towards Dinosaur size fraudulencey

Like holy crap, I get it, Dinosaurs were big, but Henry the Elephant still Mogs and twerps Scotty the Rex hard

[crude girder]

I mean it sucks dying to bugs and stuff and losing hours of progress but at the end of the day you are playing a game that is in active development.

[urban comet]

Damn, if you got a clip and copy paste your logs you can help with the bug report.

[crude girder]

Seems like that could be another bug report and hopefully devs can get it fixed by the time we get the next ht

[tough cave]

did you had any issues with crashing, organ bugs and stuff like that before? Herra climbing in air etc.?
No you did not, every update bring more bugs thats bad and you can not say its just a game in development

[urban comet]

Copy paste your logs and make the bug report mate. If the issue gets fixed you can prevent someone else going through what you did.

[pure parrot]

That's already a bit unfair; you're comparing one of the largest known elephants exemplary to an average TRex.

[crude girder]

Updates get pushed out and more stuff breaks it is the way of active development games. All we can do is make a bug report and wait until a fix happens.

[craggy ridge]

Scottys the largest known Rex specimen

[urban comet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/scottydoesntknow-eurotrip-1

[pseudo bone]

Bucking needs work so badly

[craggy ridge]

Insane reference pull

[urban comet]

What would you like done.

[pseudo bone]

For it to do something it’s really not that useful in its current state

[muted crypt]

But that's literally how game development works. You literally cannot just fix everything and optimize everything completely cause it's a waste of time as it's likely that with the introduction of new mechanics many of them will break again.

You don't really know that of other games as you usually play on 1.0 version. Isle is 0.20 something, meaning it's not even close to be a beta yet.

[pure parrot]

Of all the reasonably complete Tyrannosaurus specimens, no more than 6 are confirmed fully grown adults. With the new paper that came out alongside the nanotyrannus, the average adult Tyrannosaurus weighs between 9 and 10 tons. The largest animals of the species would certainly be much larger.

[urban comet]

Not saying I don't agree, but tell me more habibi

[muted crypt]

@tame temple

[urban comet]

Need to rewatch it but damn...

[pseudo bone]

I would like it to work more so as early stage of it you attack the stam of the pouncer heavily and if they continue to hold on an animation to either slam them or pull them off of you should occur

[craggy ridge]

Can I get a link? - Not being rude, I genuinely wanna read

[pseudo bone]

Right now they just hang on as long as they want

[pure parrot]

To make a fair comparison, an average elephant weighs between 5 and 6 tons, while an average rex weighs between 9 and 10 tons.

[oblique geyser]

looking at hypsi and seeing how great the model is makes me wanna grow one

[pure parrot]

Let me look for it here, it might take a while.

[kindred pine]

when is the delta bridge bug gonna be fixed where the dino models fall under it and other cant see them until they move?

[pseudo bone]

Rex is getting bigger and bigger

[muted crypt]

bro was clinging on the bridge and randomly vomitting 😭

[grand grotto]

Obesity

[urban comet]

That is pretty cool, what would you have the pouncers do to get around this?

[pseudo bone]

It’s likely not out of the realm of possibility that some rare individuals got up to 14-15 tons

[craggy ridge]

Even still, It's still new speculation more than cold hard fact, I don't deny there's potential legitimacy behind it, but a new hypothesis isn't immediately law

[grand grotto]

Pls buff pinning 🙏

[urban comet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/based-uh-hello-based-department-1

[pseudo bone]

Quick pouncing still applies damage and bleed and there’s other things in Omni and allos kit to utilize to apply damage and bleed it would make them exhuastion hunters for when they go after things that realistically would be much more difficult for them to take down

[untold folio]

i curse you to always be frail elder

[grand grotto]

Give troodon the ability to shoot 50 cal AP HE IR bullets

[novel valley]

Trying to bribe me I see

[grand grotto]

Absolutely

[urban comet]

Fair. How would they exhaust stuff if there mechanic of poucing cannot be used that much. Cause your idea is quick bucking that drains tons of their stamina and if they hold on your knock them over.
So is it like they bite you a load to get your weak?

[grand grotto]

Giggling globe

[kindred panther]

that sudden realization rex is shant size and is closing in onto the big sauropod realm.

[grand grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/lowcortisollevel-tayguan-tayanhguan-gif-18425416686466898059

[pseudo bone]

It wouldn’t be an immediate shake off more so the longer your on the more at risk you are to lose your stam and or get slammed the problem with police is you can freely hold on for long periods of time with very little the pounced can do in response especially with Omni who can move around your whole body and jump when it’s safe too

[pseudo bone]

Honestly is crazy to think about but I love it I’ve got a theorized to scale giant Rex in my model collection and he’s a beast compared to my normal sized ones

[novel valley]

10h complilation of troodons actually doing something that isnt camping the sanctuary and dying to the first thing they see ❤️

[muted crypt]

this is probably one of the best things I saw in my entire life.

[kindred panther]

[novel valley]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitty-small-pet-silly-alone-lonely-gif-4734322154604199486

[urban comet]

Fair. Bucking was buffed after the last hordetest but yeah, having like a bigger drain on the pouncers stamina would be cool, to see how that affects the fight.
Were you in a fight with raptors recently?

[grand grotto]

Can someone please I beg make a low cortisol minmi image

[urban comet]

Did you manage to get the bug report done? If you need anyhelp let me know.

[grand grotto]

But with like the same pose I sent before

https://tenor.com/view/lowcortisollevel-tayguan-tayanhguan-gif-18425416686466898059

[pseudo bone]

Raptors and allos recently and if they did buff it I’m not seeing it they can just hang for ages from my experience in some cases I don’t even try bucking because it really hasn’t been useful since pachy came out

[grand grotto]

This but minmi pls

[urban comet]

The buffs were a decrease in the time taken to shake them off, and there seems to be a weight factor in bucking. Where the bigger you are to the thing pouncing you the easier it is to knock them off and the less stamina you use to knock them off. I get what you mean though. Hopefully we get more changes when they are ready.

[tame sierra]

When do we think we will get the next hordetest? I was assuming april/may BUT on steam db we can see that developers are doing a lot of work but no bug fix updates so are they preparing for ht?

[elfin holly]

why can a baby raptor just pounce a baby stego in the sanc till it dies... doesn't that feel kinda unbalanced?

[oblique geyser]

maybe they are fixing those so it will all come together at once

[urban comet]

We know that there is another bug fix patch in the works and after that likely hordetest at some point. But first is the bug fix patch.

[vapid pumice]

probably getting ready for a relatively large bug fix patch

[somber urchin]

sounded like they want to do a patch for evrima before moving onto hordetest.

[pseudo bone]

I’d like it to be more dynamic in the sense of weight based playing a role in how hard you get thrown off because they just kind fall off some species should physically chuck them off when they buck imo

[urban comet]

That would be pretty cool to be honest. Like if a raptor pounces a rex for example the Rex just flings them off at a cost of some stamina,

[violet ridge]

I’m gonna be optimistic, and say late March

[feral shadow]

austro before my birthday hopefully

[pseudo bone]

I’d be all for that both parties should be experiencing stam damage when pouncing and bucking to differing degrees

[analog turret]

My guess for hordetest is end of may

[feral shadow]

i said the same thing about rex last year though...

[urban comet]

when bd?

[tame sierra]

I would be surprised if everything are bug fixes. Devs have been quiet for a while now

[feral shadow]

april 17th

[tame sierra]

I dont think that is happening 😂 dont want to ruin your thoughts tho

[urban comet]

I will be holding out hope for you. Also peak bio

[feral shadow]

thanks

[violet ridge]

Early April

[sick kraken]

i wish i was high on potenuse

[steel fog]

im stuck in between rocks how do i get an admin to help

[hoary sage]

Try using /unstuck

[terse gorge]

Is there anywhere where I can suggest things for the game?

[steel fog]

thank you.

[hoary sage]

#general-feedback

[crude girder]

/unstuck

[terse gorge]

Thanks, also am I able to suggest a new playable idea? In the feedback channel

[crude girder]

Chat Vote on that

[hoary sage]

Yes but the roster is locked, the devs aren't planning on adding anything other than what's already planned

[terse gorge]

Alr ima still send my idea

[crude girder]

@vapid laurel I know you’re here

[vapid laurel]

Persnaps.

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/cheerleader-jump-emoji-smile-clap-gif-17844435

[vapid laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/been-a-minute-severance-milchick-praise-kier-lumon-gif-9361731985395408112

[crude girder]

Docktor is back

[leaden cobalt]

Uh oh

[craggy ridge]

mute this man

[crude girder]

Why:(

[rotund iron]

this game always crashing bruh

[crude girder]

True!

[rotund iron]

i think i won a bet here when i said that they will bring back the other official servers when the game broke a few days ago

[nova trellis]

Does any know what the Dino den discord is

Thank you

[rotund iron]

np

[somber urchin]

please just dm discord links in the future.

[vapid pumice]

i still think its a little quirky that a certain unofficial has the-isle as their discord invite

[urban comet]

hmmmmmmmmmm

[crude girder]

The animatronics do get a bit quirky at night

[somber urchin]

the docktor!!

[vapid laurel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1227326314172907580/1437607536856666112/WiggleWobble.gif

[somber urchin]

yay

[crude girder]

You are the guy from YouTube?

[vapid pumice]

like, i know its not wrong at an objective level

i really can not place my finger on why it. wow i can not think of a word that it invokes. its like confusion and bothered but not enough to be actually effected, moreso just a "what...? ew" feeling

[vapid laurel]

Disgruntled

[vapid pumice]

this one is nice

[crude girder]

The turkeyDlight guy from the YouTube that does the isle YouTube videos

[urban comet]

What hapens if I say no?

[vapid laurel]

It is how I feel towards Isle much of the time. I gaze upon it and go "eugh"
and then I go do somethin' else.

[somber urchin]

fair

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/dust-ashes-thanos-gone-avengers-endgame-gif-14825403

[urban comet]

You can believe that it is me, however if a video about falling trees comes out in 2 minutes you owe me money

[tight lynx]

This is very specific

[crude girder]

Trees you say

[somber urchin]

any video about falling trees?

[crude girder]

Well he wasn’t lying

[tight lynx]

quick, be the first to leave a mean comment

[crude girder]

Done

[urban comet]

That video took an hour to upload btw. That is how bad my internet is. It is actually suffering.

[crude girder]

Good

[tight lynx]

My friend downloaded ark at 2 mbps

[vapid pumice]

i told you we had falling trees during trike ht! i wasnt crazy!

[crude girder]

You are crazy

[vapid pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-heffley-diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-i-knew-that-door-had-a-lock-on-it-schizophrenia-schizopost-gif-14431192652707590870

[crude girder]

Fear magneto

[feral shadow]

how long

[vapid pumice]

i am a c&d main i always fear that man

[crude girder]

You should (I am a hela main I always fear that man when I ult)

And strange

[feral shadow]

as a tank main this is good to hear

[oblique geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-adam-warlock-strategist-rivals-marvel-rivals-gif-14614155005896284794

[crude girder]

Born again

[feral shadow]

oh ive been wanting to make him my strat main

[misty pivot]

hi

[crude girder]

XENON

[feral shadow]

hi xenon

[oblique geyser]

best flying strat

[feral shadow]

theres only two

[oblique geyser]

exactly

[crude girder]

Dead chat

[urban comet]

How long did that take? Isn't ark like 100gb or something stupid?

[ancient crypt]

When will we get new dino

[ancient crypt]

450gb

[crude girder]

Some day

When it’s ready to be released methinks

[urban comet]

Nah. I am good. That is just nah. How? why? at what point do you go, "The game is big enough"

[crude girder]

Isn’t ASA like 200gb

[vital onyx]

ark devs are scared of file compression the same way they’re scared of actually developing the game

[crude girder]

True!

[kindred panther]

arks giga is trash, there i said it

its animation, its model, its roar. trash.

[grim compass]

Whats prime prime %?

[modern shard]

is there a playable spino in evrima?

[kindred panther]

no

[modern shard]

dang

[crude girder]

88% I believe is peak prime

[kindred panther]

like 88%?

[grim compass]

aa bet

[vapid pumice]

lol ark 2

[opal chasm]

it would be a blessing to get a bug fix patch

[vital onyx]

I can’t remember, has that actually released yet

[vapid pumice]

no and we have nothing close to a gameplay trailer or any information on a release date i believe other than a target release year

[vital onyx]

[vapid pumice]

this is really weird but do you have a large version of

[urban comet]

Wait is ark 2 really not out? I am sure I saw a new ark game

[vapid pumice]

it is not :) it will include dark souls like combat as well :)

[vital onyx]

if you’re on PC just right click the emote and copy media link or something like that

then post it

[feral shadow]

asa?

[urban comet]

A hoonter has to hoont

[feral shadow]

ark 2 will be the dark souls of dinosaur games

[vapid laurel]

ARK 2 is like Titanoboa to me; it may exist, it may not. It is merely an ethereal concept to us.
Probably.

[urban comet]

Darksouls is the darksouls of souls games

[cinder cave]

Hi Dock! Long time no see :3

[feral shadow]

😱

[vital onyx]

oh my god doctoria

[vapid laurel]

Hello peeps!

[neon elk]

hi

[vapid pumice]

i can not

[vapid laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-eyes-peeps-easter-gif-13718371

[vital onyx]

I can’t believe you’re back from a 7 month straight challenge of ONLY mvm

[urban comet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/waguri-the-fragrant-flower-blooms-with-dignity-2

[vapid laurel]

Uh yeah! Yeah uh yeah totally yeah!
Th-those dang robots! Yeah! I got em!

[manic fulcrum]

HEEES BAAAACK

[vapid laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-medic-tf2-team-fortress-2-meme-tongue-out-gif-14185572387340663237

[sick kraken]

i hate you

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-gif-25023528

[manic fulcrum]

How was Tartarus

[vital onyx]

🦎

[sick kraken]

you downvoted my feedback post about traps.

[vapid laurel]

May sound far fetched, but hear me out...
it contained stuff

[manic fulcrum]

[urban comet]

Is there any context for that gif?

[slate trellis]

Do any of you guys have like, good pointers on fighting rexes as trike?

[vapid pumice]

yes! log

[urban comet]

Do you believe in a merciful god?

[tall hamlet]

ik the isle is a survival game so stuff like non combative interactions arent that important but i do hope one day we'll get interactions like babies playing together, carrying babies in your mouth (deino) and just an expansion of the way packs interact

[vapid laurel]

I think it'd make less sense with context to be honest

[desert helm]

Is it possible to get salt water mutation on dibble? If so, how do you do it?

[rapid herald]

just left click it to death? they barely last 10 seconds

rex is so fodder in this game

[vital onyx]

the instant you get fractured, you’re better off ALT F4ing and pretending you didnt have a trike on that server

[urban comet]

Hey cool it buster 10 seconds is like a really long time

[slate trellis]

hyper true

[rapid herald]

go into sparring mode, thrash them and they die in a few seconds lol

[vapid laurel]

I'm just iffy with stuff like that for the game at this point <:I I don't like the idea of losing hours of progress because of a trap.
....though it does depend.

[slate trellis]

thrash? lol?

[sick kraken]

i want a land mine

[vapid laurel]

Reverse Herrera

[slate trellis]

we're talking about fighting rexes bud not lobotomy victims

[rapid herald]

hold left click on them and they are dead they cant even win sparring they have no win cons

[lost musk]

pray its a player playing with his feet as a challenge

[vital onyx]

RAUISUCHUS MY BELOVED

[sick kraken]

do not thrash vs rex it is going to kill you. if u have an opportunity to do damage just press m1 over and over

[rapid herald]

bro u literally drop them if u thrash wdym

[vapid laurel]

Burrowing Raui....
#Burrauisuchus

[slate trellis]

keep in mind this info isnt for me, i dont like trike very much

[sick kraken]

no u die. they can get out of stun and run behind you before the thrash is over

[kindred panther]

thrashing as trike will get you killed.

[rapid herald]

a peak prime trike can thrash a peak prime rex and kill it in that 1 scenerio

[glacial panther]

hi

[rapid herald]

no it wont how

[vapid laurel]

https://tenor.com/view/walking-with-dinosaurs-2025-bbc-nature-documentary-the-orphan-tyrannosaurus-rex-gif-11421796807316587425

[slate trellis]

i just wanna know so i can teach my friend how to play into rexes 😭

[glacial panther]

wuh oh.

[rapid herald]

trike is top 1 in this game easily

[sick kraken]

you wanna just m1, enter spar to turn, the exit spar m1, if you get into the actual spar lock thing hold right click so the rex can’t turn you

if the rex tries to turn you then you can turn the rex.

[rapid herald]

im pretty sure rex cant turn u in spar u can spam m1 and they get stuned

[sick kraken]

if the rex knows this it’ll just stare at you, press control to exit spar and sprint attack it

[sick kraken]

nope it can turn you

[rapid herald]

if you let it but if u spam lmb they'll die in 5-10 seconds

[sick kraken]

yeah so u hold right click so u don’t let it

[rapid herald]

that never works

[slate trellis]

no rex ive ever seen has died that fast ever before

[sick kraken]

if u spam lmb then it turns you lol

[haughty quail]

rex can easily get thrashed in the head for like 6k dmg

[rapid herald]

go in a sandbox server and be a trike and ask a rex for 1v1

and then go into sparring mode and rush them and left click them to death

[sick kraken]

the rex can just hold rmb…

[rapid herald]

doesn't even work bro u still get dropped literally no win con

[haughty quail]

2 thrashes ur dead

[sick kraken]

and after 1 attack it has a window to turn you…

[manic fulcrum]

How fast is prime dibble again?

[sick kraken]

u can’t thrash while ur sparring with a rex?

[haughty quail]

why u acting like ur always gonna spar a rex lol

[rapid herald]

u can't even initiate a spar with a trike they'll literally just drop you

[sick kraken]

bro i think ur a little lost

[lusty wing]

you cant thrash a rex without getting crushed lol

[haughty quail]

trike can be a worse plaayer than the rex and still win

[sick kraken]

yeah the good rexes don’t initiate spar they just circle you

they circle you and it’s very effective

[lusty wing]

no they wont sparring is literally more beneficial for the rex a lot of the time most good trikes will cancel the spar because of that

[rapid herald]

a mid trike beats a good rex 8/10 times

[sick kraken]

a good rex beats a good trike. but a mid trike beats a mid rex.

[haughty quail]

100%

[lusty wing]

Lie

[sick kraken]

these people are just mix rex that think they are good rex lol

[rapid herald]

a good trike bullies 2 rexes at the same time

[lost musk]

plain untrue 😭

[lusty wing]

Ragebait

[haughty quail]

its true

[rapid herald]

bro go on a sandbox server and fight a trike as a rex and lets see how much u die

[haughty quail]

rex has to be significantly better than trike in order to win somewhat easier.

[rapid herald]

not even counting for tactile endurance or any mutations that they use

[sick kraken]

what do u do vs a trike. like whats ur gameplan

[haughty quail]

bait him so he trashes get bites and try to break him

[rapid herald]

i gave up on fighting trikes I don't bother fighting them but if im forced to fight i try and glitch myself into their back

[sick kraken]

a good trike isn’t gonna thrash ever…

[lost musk]

players on sandboxes suck, no offense to anyone at all but its not a good place for you to get a realistic idea on how rex/players really are on survival.

a bad rex beats a mid trike easily, and ive done it

[rapid herald]

sandbox players are way better than survival players

[sick kraken]

nah rex players generally really suck and think going head on into the trike is how u do it

[lost musk]

💀 literally not true but okay

[rapid herald]

sandbox players have way more pvp experience than survival players what??? its common sense

[lost musk]

rex can literally just twirl around the trike and crush it thrice and it automatically wins

[sick kraken]

nah it is true. sandbox rexes are actually pretty decent and survival rexes blow

[rapid herald]

try and twirl around it when ur staggered and u die in 2-3 hits

[sick kraken]

in survival a rex has never tried to circle me they just crush my face. sandbox rexes always circle me

[lost musk]

what kind of sandbox have i been in

[lusty wing]

This guy is playing allo and he thinks its rex

[sick kraken]

ur just doing it wrong i fear

[rapid herald]

oh no im the trike pov

[sick kraken]

then the rex is doing it wrong

[sleek marsh]

Makes sense, sandbox is for people who Instagrow and pvp, survival is for normies

[lusty wing]

This guy is playing brachi and he thinks its trike

[lost musk]

huh?

if youre stunned, just.. twirl around the trike again

its even better if you get stunned because then you have stun immunity and can get behind the trike even easier, get a crush combo, and boom 3 crushes within 5 seconds its done for

[rapid herald]

if you get hit by a trike u get dropped on the ground and after that they can just kill you really in 2-3 hits or so

[sick kraken]

purty much. trike can kinda use terrain to save itself tho

[haughty quail]

one thrash is 3k damage, if u manage to hit head its 6k :D u can 2 shot a prime

[lost musk]

like seriously look at this crush spam and you say trike has a chance

[sick kraken]

yeah but u die for thrashing so…

[rapid herald]

he literally backed up but ok

[sick kraken]

the stun isn’t long enough to fully thrash. the rex can always run behind you

[lusty wing]

This is either ragebait or you're fighting adult rexes as prime elder trike

[lost musk]

he backed up to get another hit, didnt u see

[rapid herald]

everyone i fought was 88%

[haughty quail]

yes but u can make way more mistakes lmao

[manic fulcrum]

Rex isn’t knocked over anymore by trike

[lusty wing]

Rex doesnt get knocked over by trike its only stun

[opal chasm]

this trike was sooooo bad
didnt even know their punishes

[lost musk]

and so what he backed up? the video still proves my point

[sick kraken]

yeah that’s why i said bad trike beats bad rex. if they’re both good the trike can’t do much

[lusty wing]

Also trike cant even stun it if its even 1kg smaller

[rapid herald]

i've been knocked over by a 88% trike as a 88% rex

[lost musk]

its not that its bad, it just cant do anything

Trike is helpless

[sick kraken]

good players make few mistakes it’s why they’re good

[lusty wing]

Then you were frail elder or you're lying or that happened ages ago when trike could push rex because this doesnt happen

[rapid herald]

bro its a sandbox server i /elder primed me

[opal chasm]

trike is very capable of killing rex, its just that 95% of trike players you find are horrible

[sick kraken]

trike can only stun rex tho it can’t push it

[lusty wing]

Then the other 2 options

[rapid herald]

it happened like 6 or 7 days ago

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/idfk-gif-3761179052566277881

[manic fulcrum]

In a bit I can hop on an admin server and show if someone wants to join

[lusty wing]

Now its too obvious that you're ragebaiting you should've kept going bro

[rapid herald]

i don't remember if its feb 28 or march 1

[oblique geyser]

speed up isle videos are funny
giantic dinosaur walking around really fast

[lost musk]

yeah, yeah youre right

trike is actually really capable of killing a rex

you know when? when it does 2 stance changes in half a second with one lmb per stance change to get the normal lmb while still using spar movement and having the reaction time of a fly with movement and button micro presses of a competitive player playing the game as a sport to win a grand prize of 3 million

[slate trellis]

good players are good, making them good

[sick kraken]

even if they do this a good rex still wins lol

[lost musk]

what are we showing

[sick kraken]

but ya trike can do that and beat most rexes. just not the really good ones

[manic fulcrum]

That trike sucks

[slate trellis]

ive killed a few rexes on dibble so far

[lusty wing]

that would be 7 or 8 days ago

[lost musk]

oh yeah were on the same side

[opal chasm]

this just sounds like someone who knows how to fight rex and you say it like your insulting them because they know what to do lol

[rapid herald]

trike low-mid diffs rex and wins 9/10 times

[sick kraken]

ah i understand now

[lost musk]

thats not what im saying

what im saying is that its STUPID a rex can just twirl around a trike and spam the same one button the entire fight, while a trike has to press 5 different buttons in the span of half a second to stand a chance.

[sick kraken]

imo trike doesent suck rex is just overtuned, trike is solid strength for an apex

[lusty wing]

it should be 10/10 times

[rapid herald]

no because sometimes the rex just voids the trikes attack and actually gets behind it without being dropped

[slate trellis]

trike has massive wincons but its still abusable

[sleek marsh]

The literal only thing that makes Rex good is pin, guys. Remove that Rex sucks

[lost musk]

10/10 times, 8/10 if the rex gets a proper ambush and the trike actually doesnt see it coming

[lusty wing]

thats why i said should and not is

[sick kraken]

the issue with trike vs rex is rex wins because it can twirl around the trike, but if it couldent, trike demolishes it

[opal chasm]

thats the way with like a lot of playables rn, not just rex and trike

Some playables are built to be easier, and others harder to reach the same level

[rapid herald]

a rex died to me as a deinosuchus at 88% cause we went blow for blow

[sick kraken]

rex should probably need an ambush to take a trike yeah, or just 2 rex

[rapid herald]

deino needs to be buffed icl it needs like atleast 1.5k biteforce and needs a recode cause its so buggy and let it head fracture a rex

[lusty wing]

trike should still get better turning and its alt attack should get a stun (and they need to fix the stun threshold because its dumb right now a 9.3t trike cant stun a 9.4t rex with running flip)

[sick kraken]

yea it has a whole stance for turning and still sucks

[slate trellis]

what does prime rex weigh and what does prime trike weigh

[rapid herald]

12.5 and 12.5 i think?

[lusty wing]

meanwhile an adult rex can still crush a prime 12.5 trike with a crush heh thanks thats pretty balanced for both sides yeah thats fair

[sick kraken]

no

[lost musk]

💀 that doesnt make sense at ALL

yeahh the literal tank with a huge shield with a head that has 3 long spikes attached should be hard to play, but the fast, very agile for its size rex that can run down and outstam its own tier, and literally have a choice in picking its own fights, with a pin and literal bone breaking abilities, should be easy and able to cater for noobs

are you even hearing yourself

[lusty wing]

12.4 and 12.5 or 12.3 for rex i forgot but i think its 12.4

[rapid herald]

its 12.5

[lusty wing]

No

Its 15t actually

[slate trellis]

why does a 3 ton dib only get to 3.9 while a 2.5 allo gets to 3.6

[manic fulcrum]

Well….I think it’s a mix of both the. Trike isn’t bad per se but it does need some minor buffs. Rex def needs some small nerfs too

[sick kraken]

cuz they don’t make all prime elders increase the same

[rapid herald]

deinosuchus should be able to 2-3 shot a rex tbh

[lusty wing]

Because they hate dibble

[sick kraken]

nah all we need is rex twirling around trike removed so it needs an ambush. rex nerfs in general would be welcome tho. especially to speed

[slate trellis]

🥱

[lusty wing]

Yeah i think i agree
And rex should oneshot stego and trike and run at 36km/h without ambush that would make the game good

[rapid herald]

this game isn't realistic and this rex is more closely related to the jw/jp t rex so by all means go for it

[manic fulcrum]

I’d like a small cc buff just so it can stun prime Rex….considering adult trike can’t

[sick kraken]

well stego should also 1 shot rex don’t forget, same with trike it should 1 shot rex

[slate trellis]

jp rex would be significantly lighter

[fading aspen]

<@&505047238674874368> US 3, 1 rex, and 2 stegos using ESP

[lusty wing]

No they shouldnt because they're herbivores and herbivores only eat grass and die they're gentle giants

[sick kraken]

i mean if rex got twirling nerfed then maybe trike is too strong with that CC change

[rapid herald]

pretty sure rexy is like 13 tons in dominion

[lusty wing]

Remove all attacks from herbivores to make the game more realistic

[slate trellis]

nah, the actual scales they use put rexes at like ~7.5 tons

[opal chasm]

tbf yeah rex is way too agile for its size, can hit an instant 180 just by running and turning

and rex is harder to grow than trike aswell just another thing to add to it

and trikes are meant to be in herds generally

[rapid herald]

no that's outdated rexy is 10 tons by dominion and giga is around 13ish with spino being 16 tons?

[slate trellis]

you brought up jp bro

[lusty wing]

If i see someone use the herd argument to justify trike struggling thisi much against one single rex one more time im gonna start eating people alive

[rapid herald]

i said jw/jp

[slate trellis]

i know but i only focused on jp

[manic fulcrum]

Even if we nerf Rex’s turning, I don’t think that would be enough. Because prime Rex can afford to just sit there and tank whatever trike does, because it can’t be stunned

[sleek marsh]

Its actually pretty realistic with only a handful of exaggerations

[rapid herald]

why the rexes in jp are very young

[slate trellis]

no they arent

[sick kraken]

prime trike can’t stun prime rex?

[lusty wing]

stun immunity is what they mean i think

[slate trellis]

says so in the movies

[rapid herald]

rexy in jp is like 2 years old bull is 1 year old i think? buck and doe are like 2-3 too

[lost musk]

💀 oh my god here we go again with that mentality

the literal TANK, an armored, AND GEARED tank, needs, not even just a companion, but a HERD for backup to take on ONE rex, but not the other way around?

you cant be serious- like yeah it cant choose its own fights, its slow and has no stamina, it needs a herd to fight one rex, but one rex, which is faster, more agile, more stamina and can actually decide whether it wants to fight or not, yeahhh noo it doesnt need even at least a friend, its fineee on its own bc its T-REX!! THE KING!?

[sleek marsh]

JP Rex is 5 at time of movies

[sick kraken]

i’ve seen people say rex should beat everything because it’s king of dinosaurs so many times. you just realize you can’t agree with that person

[rapid herald]

mb i got confused with spinosaurus age

[slate trellis]

most community servers only let trikes have 2

[opal chasm]

so does that mean omni should be the greatest solo playable in its tier?
omnis are meant to be in a group and thats where they thrive, solo omnis tend to get demolished

trike is more capable of being solo than omni ofc but you are still meant to be more than solo, wheras rex is depicted to be a solo generally in concept but they ofc benefit by being duo

[sleek marsh]

JP Dinos were given accelerated growth rate anyway

[lusty wing]

herbivores have to group up to survive because they are dumb stupid fodder dont you know this

[lusty wing]

omni can afford to be bad solo because it runs at 46km/h and can avoid engagements that it cant win

[sleek marsh]

Well yes that is how almost every herbivore works irl

[sick kraken]

…

[terse gorge]

Is there anywhere I can see the upcoming playables that are definitely coming to the isle

[manic fulcrum]

Prime trike yes, adult trike can’t. It can’t run nor stun it. So it just dies

[sleek marsh]

Name a herbivore that doesn't pack up

[rapid herald]

they need to make rex in this game resemble the jw/jp ones more cause rex should be 48 kilometers per hour icl

[lost musk]

oh my GOD you actually cant be serious

[sick kraken]

that isn’t what i meant, but moose

[opal chasm]

me when carnos and dilos exist and destroy solo omnis

[manic fulcrum]

Anyways who wants to test Rex & trike rq?

[slate trellis]

trikes ironically

[rapid herald]

me

[lost musk]

moose

[lusty wing]

Dumbest thing ever by the way
if trike is even 1kg smaller than the rex it cant do anything so it falls over and starts throwing up and crying

[lusty wing]

omni is far more agile than both and has a jump it can use to escape

[sick kraken]

herbis aren’t weak, they group because it’s better and they don’t have a food issue for doing so. they aren’t weak alone tho

[sleek marsh]

Good one

[lost musk]

ikr YOU are hilarious, almost got me

[rapid herald]

hear me out guys what if we rebalance deino and give it 1,500 biteforce - 2,000 biteforce, lunge head fractures rexes and body fractures it and we can drag them into water sounds good right?

[lost musk]

yes, but ONLY against rexes, i agree

[rapid herald]

no the stegos and trikes can get it too

[manic fulcrum]

Join taco island

[sick kraken]

head fracture a trike?

[lost musk]

nah just rex to spite rexes

[rapid herald]

yes

[uneven stirrup]

alright guys does anticheat still not like reshade?

[tall hamlet]

idk about u guys but i think allo is so well balanced

[sick kraken]

yeah sure ship it

[rapid herald]

deinosuchus should crush a trike very easily easier than a rex bedcause its lower altitude

[sleek marsh]

Ehhh I wouldn't say weak, Id say in the animal kingdom fighting is dangerous for all parties involved. Even predators are wary of fights. Prey animals simply aren't meant to stand ground and fight often, flight vs fight. So an animal that relies on flight isn't gonna be very good at fight, so why fight, thats why they flee

[sonic moat]

i came back (6 months abscence at least ) and u cant even fish? omegalul devs

[rapid herald]

what do i pick trike or rex

[lusty wing]

if trike cant fight something it dies because it's the slowest thing in the game besides deino trot speed included and has absolutely no escape options
So actually yeah trike should be pretty good at solo 1v1s maybe thats just me though i dont know hah

[opal chasm]

its hard to miss an omni tbh, with carno in its state and dilo even without clones working can easily kill an omni because its so easy to hit them, and theres very few areas where omni can jump onto which means they have to live around that rock

which this logic can be used on trike aswell ecause if they are nearby a wall a solo rex cant do much about it

[sick kraken]

yea but a lot of herbis don’t do flight, especially not trike.

[rapid herald]

they did deino dirty and deinosuchus is the only reason this game is even alive or got popular and they make it so trash bruh

[sick kraken]

para should be weaker because ur runs, trike no

[slate trellis]

i wish they got rid of pounce altogether. we dont have a dedicated bleeder in the roster right now. it couldve been such a nice niche for it

[opal chasm]

clearly cant be that important now if its "so bad" and the game is way more popular than spiro days

[rapid herald]

only got popular because of deinosuchus

[sick kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/get-this-man-a-shield-get-this-man-a-true-morgan-freeman-morgan-freeman-true-gif-25958604

[manic fulcrum]

Trike

[rapid herald]

slay me i picked rex

[neon elk]

true

[manic fulcrum]

What’s your ign?

[tall hamlet]

allo having pounce just doesnt make sense lmaoo, like i dont understand how something that cant jump can somehow pounce. not to mention yeah, a bleeder would be cool allo just feels like a mix between omni and rex in the worst possible way

[rapid herald]

tyrannosaurus buck

[opal chasm]

clearly not because theres a way larger playerbase now and most people dont play deino at all

[rapid herald]

if thegamingbeaver didn't play deinosuchus this game would've been dead

[sick kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-alerted-horse-gif-16336030350313419753

[slate trellis]

i feel like it would make sense if we had much larger things in the roster. i feel like if they want to include it, it should be regulated to things beyond a certain weight

like i one hundred % believe allo should likely be able to pounce camaras when they're added

[opal chasm]

i dont think anyone cares about thegamingbeaver tbh

i watch him as a last resort and usually i cant tolerate it

[rapid herald]

how do i switch to global chat

[steel scaffold]

It pinned you

[manic fulcrum]

Enter & tab I think

[sick kraken]

he’s why i know about the game but it’s from like 7 years ago, not any new deino vid

[sleek marsh]

Allo could jump and likely did according to paleontologists just not....leaps. but more like....a dash

[tall hamlet]

can allo jump in game

[vernal creek]

how is maia vs raptors? seems rough for the maia

[sleek marsh]

Nope but it can dash forward

[lusty wing]

omni also takes like an hour to grow
carno is kinda dumb right now and killing a good omni as dilo isnt as easy as you're making it out to be omni can definitely get away or even kill the dilo because of pounce being stupid right now
i mean im pretty sure omni swims faster tthan dilo and it has a jump to get across faster so just like cross a river and you'll get enough distance to get away somewhat
point is omni has escape options which trike does not have and its a small tier carnivore while trike is meant to Be An Apex

[tall hamlet]

oh okay then im not talking about if it could jump irl

[steel scaffold]

What allo is the dedicated bleeder lol

[sick kraken]

it’s .1 faster so it just runs

[opal chasm]

im aware, but theres a difference between you and everyone else lol

[vernal creek]

it is? thought omni was the faster one

[sleek marsh]

If it can dash forward a bit IRL it can dash forward in game

[sick kraken]

unless it was changed or i’m an idiot

[tall hamlet]

which, doesnt mean it should be able to pounce and hang off the side of things when it cant even gain height lmao

[sleek marsh]

I wont disagree there

[steel scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/the-allosaurus-allo-allosaurus-the-grappling-animal-the-killer-gif-25072310

[sick kraken]

they add stuff that isn’t realjdtic if it’s fun

[steel scaffold]

People still banging on about realism in the isle

[tall hamlet]

idk, i think we just have enough things that can pin. imo omni should be it, its not fun getting pinned, its less fun getting pinned by something that u cant sway away like omni lmao

[lusty wing]

and about the rock thing
sure thats true trike does pretty well with a wall to back itself up against but uhhh it shouldnt need to do that against one single rex that didnt even bother getting an ambush on it and it also wont always have that option i think ! thought trike was meant to be like rex's rival or something i dont know

[slate trellis]

yeah and it shouldve been balanced around being a bleeder as opposed to being able to pounce

[vernal creek]

looks like at 75% it is but all other times the raptor is faster ;-;

[tall hamlet]

im not talking about the allo from a paleo standpoint. specifically the one in the isle

[crude girder]

No

[mortal copper]

am i crazy or like, half the time when i try to block in a spar it just doesnt work?

[sick kraken]

my info is pre elder so that makes sense lol

[lusty wing]

oh okay

[tall hamlet]

its not fun so theres that

[crude girder]

Sorry

[lusty wing]

sparring is like the buggiest thing in the game right now so yea it probably just isnt working half the time

[sick kraken]

to dondi it is ig

[slate trellis]

i have very little issue fighting raptors on maia

[steel scaffold]

Dilo has shadow jutsu anything else in the game is tame

[tall hamlet]

dilo's clones are from hallucinations

[steel scaffold]

It’s pounce is just a way for it to apply its bleed safely to larger creatures, if they changed its grapple thresholds it would be better

[tall hamlet]

yeah, its farfetched but its atleast balanced

[tall hamlet]

theres not enough creatures large enough to justify allo needing to be able to pin how it can with the numbers it puts out.

[slate trellis]

thats my point though. i understand that, and i agree, but what it shouldn't be able to do is pounce a maia / dibble and (practically) win the fight on basis of that alone

[sleek marsh]

I really never understood this line of thinking. "The animal can do this IRL, but it shouldn't be able to in the video game version"....like why? Lol

[tall hamlet]

exactly, its not balanced. it doesnt bleed u out it just pins u and depletes your health

[steel scaffold]

It can’t tho? With a grapple it could but not with a straight pounce

[tall hamlet]

because the isle dinos are not 1:1 copies of real dinosaurs

[steel scaffold]

Grapple not pin

[lusty wing]

its a pin

[slate trellis]

i dont know what you mean sorry bud

[sleek marsh]

All that means is they can do everything the real dinosaurs can do, and some other stuff. Not that they magically cannot do what the real animal can anymore

[tall hamlet]

omniraptor for example, is not a real raptor and is made up of utah and some other elements.

[kindred panther]

it all leads to death.

[steel scaffold]

Exactly you don’t actually know what your talking about lol

[tall hamlet]

the isle dinos are literally not actual copies of real dinosaurs and are modified to a degree

[slate trellis]

bait used to be good 🥱

[sleek marsh]

Yeah but not modified to lose existing traits the real animal had

[tall hamlet]

hes asking u to explain the difference in grapple and not pounce

[slate trellis]

thank u

[tall hamlet]

clearly so if the allo cannot jump. you're not on the dev team so u cant say how they are modified because you don't know. the isle allo cannot jump therefor it shouldnt be able to POUNCE.

also isnt it canon that they were bred to be deadlier than the regular dino's, heavier and deadlier or wtv. (correct me if im wrong) its very possible for allo to have been bred to be heavier at the cost of its agility

[sleek marsh]

That doesn't track. Being unable to jump doesn't mean you can't pounce slightly. What it means is you're too big to get too far off the ground without getting hurt. Not that you CANT do it at all

[kindred panther]

its not about realism. it's about balanced

[lusty wing]

they should just remove allo's pounce animation that has its feet up and just only have the one with its feet on the ground
also it should just not be able to pounce small stuff it should bounce off and do damage like what happens when you pounce somethings head to avoid pinslop
i think

[halcyon burrow]

man i love watching this chat

[steel scaffold]

Grapple is when 2 or more animals exceed the 101% weight of the animal they are pounced to, pin is when allo is 50% heavier then the animal it is lunging at

[tall hamlet]

do you know what a pounce is.

[lusty wing]

small stuff like dibble size i mean

[sleek marsh]

Yes its a forward lunge not a vertical leap

[kindred panther]

huh, it's like it leads to being pinned...

[tall hamlet]

a pounce is literally by definition a sudden jump or spring

[lusty wing]

thats not grapple thats just pounce to pin omni has it too

[steel scaffold]

2 different damage numbers

[lusty wing]

its a pin

[tall hamlet]

if you cannot jump, you cannot pounce. it shouldnt get a free win card off the fact that its unbalanced, but even from a realism standpoint if it cant jump how can it pounce anything

[lost musk]

pounce to pin IS grapple

[kindred panther]

🎣

[steel scaffold]

Grappled and pinned are different

[slate trellis]

does it matter to argue semantics LOL

[lost musk]

in the game's general sense

Pin is being pinned by a solo attacker

Grapple is being pinned by multiple attackers

[neon elk]

why

[lusty wing]

nothing matters ever

[slate trellis]

what

[kindred panther]

omni has grapple confirm

[lost musk]

do you mattress? because i chair

[neon elk]

oh?

[lusty wing]

You need to Save The Isle

[sleek marsh]

The essential difference in physics here is the direction of the jump. It cannot do a standing jump vertical very far, but it can do a running jump using its forward momentum to leap, and as that gif showed earlier, one leg lifted with claw gets stuck in side of prey, then it simply lifts itself like climbing a fence ontop of the prey. A pounce is a directional leap aimed forward/diagonally

[steel scaffold]

Yea cause your talking about 2 different situations, an allo cannot pin a dibble it can only grapple it with another player

[slate trellis]

spoken like a true crusader king

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-do-this-do-not-do-this-indian-guy-indian-meme-gas-station-employee-gif-16082942181812825239

[slate trellis]

ive been pinned by an allo before as a fg dibble

[kindred panther]

the isle needs to be saved

[tall hamlet]

first off that gif is a literal jump, allo cannot gain any verticality. when it 'pounces' it just rushes forward.

[neon elk]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-crusader-kings-3-ck3-gif-15281724418017964761

[kindred panther]

yeah, if you're low stam or low health.

[opal chasm]

i dont know if you noticed but the isle is just a tier system where the longer the playable grow usually means it just loses the threat of the previous tier to be replaced with a threat of the new tier

trike is no different

no playable is ever 100% safe from this

[feral shadow]

Some guy on the reddit will dw

[lusty wing]

thats because stamina bleed and health affect ptp im pretty sure (stamina shouldnt in my opinion i think its bad)

[steel scaffold]

Would only happen if there were 2 allos

[sleek marsh]

It certainly could get verticality. It's just dangerous with its mass to land back on its legs if it gets too high so it normally wouldnt

[slate trellis]

nope

[steel scaffold]

Allos solo grapple range is not that high

[sleek marsh]

But a forward leap giving a few inches of verticality is totally plausible

[rapid herald]

@manic fulcrum u in game or nah

[slate trellis]

i was low bleed thats what did it

[tall hamlet]

you're being obtuse on purpose, allo in the game does not gain verticality. it cannot pounce, u can like allo but pretending its kit makes sense is just insane lmao

[manic fulcrum]

Going to oasis

[rapid herald]

alr

[steel scaffold]

Allo cannot solo grapple an adult dibble you’re just lying

[manic fulcrum]

You have admin there?

[tall hamlet]

nobody enjoys fighting allo

[rapid herald]

yes

[sleek marsh]

Then what's your issue with a purely horizontal leap?

[kindred panther]

allo can grapple anything, what?

[slate trellis]

did all of your information come to you in dreams

[lost musk]

what server yall on

[opal chasm]

i dont enjoy fighting allos that just use pounce and dont know how to fight without it

[manic fulcrum]

Oasis admin

[sleek marsh]

No point if there's 2

[lost musk]

omw

what should i be as a backup

[steel scaffold]

No it came to me in testing, solo allo can only solo grapple 75% of its weight

[tall hamlet]

outside of the fact that its broken? it just doesnt make sense, allo literally hangs off the side of whatever it pounces on. how would it even get there lmao

[kindred panther]

allo can grapple rex.

[tall hamlet]

fr, its literally not fun losing growth because someone just instapins you

[rapid herald]

can u copy and paste the 2 arrow characters u have to me in discord so i can copy aNd paste it i cant prime elder u without that

[lusty wing]

this doesnt really address anything else that i said
also yeah dont know if you noticed this but rex and trike are in the same tier and trike is slower fatter bigger and cooler than rex therefore trike should be stronger than rex and shouldnt need to back itself up into a little corner like a chud if it wants to win against a good rex yknow

[sterile gulch]

going too but I have bad ping

[manic fulcrum]

«Ħ» Salty

[thin gazelle]

can a parent dino spawn in as their kids?

[sleek marsh]

Okay dude come on. Can you climb a fence without jumping? Yes. How? Lift one leg, place into fence hole, use as step/leverage and pull body up. An allo could easily run and lift a leg to gain a clawed foothold in the side of a big prey item, then lift the other leg, hold on with arm claws, and bite.

[slate trellis]

ur just lying

[steel scaffold]

Sure don’t believe me then

[thin gazelle]

@deep wolf

[slate trellis]

i wont 😊

[tall hamlet]

a fence is a stationary object with holes and climbing grooves from top to bottom. A rex is not a fence, theres nothing for it to put its foot on to climb. it hangs by its center back, theres literally nothing to allow it to get up there. also, i weight alot less than an allo and am way more nimble so yea

[steel scaffold]

Stay uniformed and spreading misinformation

[slate trellis]

you too sweetheart

[somber urchin]

please remain polite and constructive when talking here.

[sleek marsh]

An allo, has big toe claws. It stabs them into the side and uses them as footholds to climb/pull itself up higher ontop

[slate trellis]

what if all all animals had ladders designed into them

[tall hamlet]

how would it get its leg high enough to sink into rexes abdomen

[sleek marsh]

[sleek marsh]

It can lift its leg pretty high, it would have to or it couldn't lay down

[tall hamlet]

it can lift its leg all the way up to its head while standing

[opal chasm]

i think the main issue is where allo just insta pins solo like cera and lighter, ofc its a larger playable but everyone besides cera, allo can easily kill in a 1v1 or maybe more, pin is fine to me for like galli and below since you gotta catch them before they run, but for others allo are very capable of fighting without pinning
people just crutch allos pin and pounce too much and it makes fights boring that couldve been fun

pounce should saty built for pouncing/pinning larger enemies like stego and such

honestly they could make allo insta pin prime galli wieght and below, if you hit a target between that weight and your weight it will do the attack when you hit their head instead, and if its larger than you, you will pounce like usual

[tall hamlet]

youre doing gymnastics to defend allo rn im not gonna lie, it just doesnt make sense 😭

[rapid herald]

@manic fulcrum did my hits register at the end or nah

[manic fulcrum]

Yes

[lost musk]

yeah, just no sound

[rapid herald]

i won againts a trex blow for blow one time with perfect diet 0 hunger and 16 other muts and survived with 40 hp

[slate trellis]

its likely just an animation oversight

[opal chasm]

its toenails are definitely not large enough leverage to hold up a 2.8-3.6 ton creature

[vital onyx]

is this a realism discussion

[tropic prairie]

back on the game after a long time! whats with the pigs screaming at 1000% every 3 seconds regardless of if im near them or not??

[slate trellis]

i belive so

[slate trellis]

they're in constant agony

[lusty wing]

is the isle real

[rapid herald]

and this is why trike is top 1 and nothing can beat it and buff deinosuchus

[slate trellis]

unsure

[lusty wing]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-cat-cat-evil-red-eyes-weed-cat-stare-gif-4157694864126614194

[tall hamlet]

I agree, when it comes to fighting stuff like stego and heavier its kinda whatever. but i honestly think the main issue is just that allo isnt omni, if youre getting chased by omnis you can easily swat it away and stop it from getting the pin on you, they arent very durable and thus have to think about what to do.

Allo is a big animal, it can take alot of damage and so it has the opportunity to make a mistake or two. if 3 allos are arround you its pretty much gg's because of them just pouncing u and pinning you, even if u smack one away that same one can get back up and try again, if u smack omni away it's dead 9/10. pounce just isnt something that should belong on a creature as heavy as allo

[sleek marsh]

My gymnastics are based in current paleo models of the allo whereas your contention simply seems to be that you just dont like it

[tall hamlet]

youre using paleo models for the real life allo, which again. is not the same allo as the one from the isle, which is what im referring to

[slate trellis]

omnis still have issues with their pounce, especially if it's something small, but its inherently better designed around including pounce into their kit

[lusty wing]

actually 2 prime allos can pin one adult stego that's like not even low health for like 20 years and kill it if its at like 50-60% stamina which is really cool

[sleek marsh]

"This is a game so it has to be completely different from real life or scientific models" is not an argument. Cease.

[tall hamlet]

yeah but omnis are so light if you get pinned by one youre prob something that would die in one shot from something else anyways lmao

[lusty wing]

and it takes like so long for the stego to die and the allos dont even waste that much stamina doing it

[tall hamlet]

its not about it being a game, the isle dinos are canonically NOT the same dinos as the real life ones omg.

[crude girder]

I think remove pinning from everything besides Rex and maybe raptor.

[tall hamlet]

is pigeon here?

[lusty wing]

@fat pigeon

[crude girder]

She might be

[tall hamlet]

yeah like thats crazy

[somber urchin]

i mean. considering the lore surrounding the creation of the dinosaurs in the isle, i would expect some discrepancies.

[sleek marsh]

Well duh they're genetically modified theme park monsters like JP, but if the real animal could do it you need to explain why a company creating genetically modified versions of that animal would purposefully remove traits

[slate trellis]

i agree, i think if it is to be introduced healthily, it is only viable on the smaller pouncers like troo and omni. a good allo can already give a dibble or maia a very good run for their money, why is it they get what is basicially free damage

[crude girder]

@somber urchin wiwiwi

[somber urchin]

wiwiwi

[bitter drum]

Question; where the hell do you find freshwater when you’re a saltwater croc

[opal chasm]

yeah, i still stand on what i said with the idea, i feel thats a good balance so the only things oyu can solo pin are things that are way way smaller than you and you might actually need to pin them to catch them, the tiers where you cant pounce or pin them you are more than capable of killing without pouncing or pinning, and everything heavier than you, you usually do need to pounce because one stego hit and your dead and if the stego fails the mindgames too many times it'll be pinned

[cinder cave]

Lore?

[sleek marsh]

If real allo could pounce and Im making genetically modified Allo-like monsters why would I make it so they couldn't pounce?

[lost citrus]

I don't think they were making a theme park

[lusty wing]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-theisle-the-isle-lore-lore-gif-19857045

[cinder cave]

I need to find a good alex jones clip to make a lore reference with

[tall hamlet]

i dont have to explain anything because for one i didnt make the lore, the devs did and theyre the ones who made the model different from the real allo. HOWEVER, they could have made it heavier and less agile because a scary big dinosaur would sell more than something smaller.

[slate trellis]

allo not jumping is probably just a misjudgement with devs not animating it 😭 i dont think THATS the issue with it

[steel scaffold]

This is what it’s already like with pinning it’s just that speeds are so close

[somber urchin]

they'd remove traits that didn't suit their purposes, surely.

[tall hamlet]

yeah, like. omni for example isnt even a real raptor or dino in general. the isle has its own lore and their dinos are not 1:1 copies and have differences from the real life dinos so comparing them just doesnt really do anything

[sleek marsh]

Yeah except you need to square all your issues with the fact the devs DID make the allo in their game able to pounce LIKE the irl animal could have, and Im saying, yep makes sense based off paleo and what devs want for gameplay.

[bitter drum]

Where the hell do I find freshwater in the ocean. Just died of dehydrations after completing all PE requirements because I couldn’t find freshwater

[rapid herald]

petiton to make rex be 47 km pls

[opal chasm]

well rn you can pin up to cera solo which you #1 dont need, and #2 are very capable of winning that engagement without it, 1 claw attack and a carno bleeds out in at most 60 seconds, a couple claw attacks on cera and i bet it owuld beleed out even with its ungodly bleed res, dilo/pachy/teno is self explanatory i feel

[crude girder]

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-lobster-activity-gif-25360671

[vital onyx]

lober activty

[somber urchin]

there is no freshwater in the ocean. you would need to go back inland

[sleek marsh]

Ocean all salt water. Need rivers or ponds or lakes

[tall hamlet]

no, my argument is that it doesnt make logical sense based on other factors in its gameplay, its numbers and just how allo interacts with other dinos and your argument is that the real (unrelated) allo can jump so a different modified version should be able to do so and thus its broken mechanic makes sense

[vital onyx]

oh my god

[lusty wing]

they should add this to the isle

[sleek marsh]

Well you've yet to explain the logical inconsistency about it. If there's a mechanic issue that should be better balanced not just removed cuz you dont like it 🙂

[crude girder]

Shut up

[lusty wing]

they should kill you

[steel scaffold]

Depends on the size of the animals, adult v adult the allo can’t outright pin it.

[crude girder]

Me every time I see rumple

[opal chasm]

adult vs adult of cera and below allo can pin solo, cant remember about teno, probably can

[lusty wing]

wjhen i see rumple m,y eyes turn red and i start boiling with rage

[sleek marsh]

Yeah but allos aren't usually alone. I typically see pairs

[crude girder]

@cinder cave do you like allosaurus 😊

[sleek marsh]

So even if you're big enough for 1 not to pin you, here comes his pal

[tall hamlet]

if it cannot jump, it cannot get high enough to hang off the side of something that is much much bigger than it. allo cannot jump, so it shouldnt able to POUNCE which is literally a jump or spring. if allo could jump in-game, it would make sense. but given that its too heavy to do so, it doesnt make sense for it to be able to gain any verticality in order to scale a rex or anything else bigger than it for that matter.

[steel scaffold]

The allo can only solo grapple the cera once it gets below 35% hp, stam or bleed. Allo can solo grapple teno

[cinder cave]

https://klipy.com/gifs/alex-jones-frogs-1

[opal chasm]

pretty sure from experience that is false

[sleek marsh]

#isle-discussion message

I see what you mean now

[steel scaffold]

It’s possible the allos that were solo pinning you were actually much larger, allo doesn’t gain its elder morph until it hits 3.5t and the size difference between an adult and elder isn’t that large

[tall hamlet]

oh do u main allo

[leaden cobalt]

I am a chicken

[opal chasm]

yeah for tall things its doesnt make sense but yeah shorter things makes sense

the "pounce" isnt implying jumping, pouncing is most commonly described as a forward boost of speed which usually involves jumping but forward, not jumping far vertically

And also allo is meant to be walking alongside the playable its pouncing not looking like an omni but 1 idk how theyd do rex with that and 2 the isle being the isle its still is yet to exist

[sleek marsh]

Indeedily

[somber urchin]

🐟

[sleek marsh]

I like chicken

[lost citrus]

chicken of the sea

[opal chasm]

ive played on a pvp server where you are base wise 75% grown, you can become prime by being a patreon supporter or sum but thats peak prime which would definitely wouldnt look like an adult

[slate trellis]

ignored

[sleek marsh]

[slate trellis]

let me know when you get better

[steel scaffold]

They would of had to of solo grapple you then once you were low on hp

[tall hamlet]

i mean im not arguing against the logistics for a pin, i think gameplay wise its broken and should be removed but anything can pin something smaller than it if were following logic, a baby trike could pin a troodon because its heavier.

gameplay wise, allo just needs a new ability, idk why we got something with pin/pounce as its shtick when thats already omni and they atleast have ti put some thought into it

[sleek marsh]

Kk

[opal chasm]

you could argue i main allo but not because i really like allo rn, its just because its the closest to the playable i want

i would main dilo but dilos clones dont work for the 1000000th time

[steel scaffold]

The pounce is to give allo a safe option to apply bleed and pressure to larger animals

[manic fulcrum]

@lost musk @rapid herald tbf I’m not the best Rex player out there

[rapid herald]

Ok but do u agree trike low diffs rex

[manic fulcrum]

But even then I still won a majority of the fights

[lost musk]

nahh it doesnt

i proved it doesnt., idk if yall saw me

[rapid herald]

i had to get used to the 180 drift on trike

[sleek marsh]

I still think pin should require hitting 3 pin attacks in a row before you can actually pin. Miss an attack? Reset. Bite attack between pins? Reset. 3 pin attacks, in a row, then the 3rd pins. Thats it.

[manic fulcrum]

If a Rex player is bad sure. But that shouldn’t be how it wins

[rapid herald]

rex only wins if trike messes up trike win cons are greater imo

[tall hamlet]

they can come up with another solution because its literally just a free win at the moment lmao. i understand the thought behind it and in theory it should be fine but it just doesnt work in actuality

[bitter drum]

Where the hell do deinos get freshwater in the ocean

[crude girder]

You are in the ocean…

[rapid herald]

the only way a rex can win is if the trike makes a mistake if a rex makes a mistake it's dead on the spot you have to play a near perfect game

[sleek marsh]

Bro you dont. Lol the ocean is all salt water. You have to go to the lakes/rivers/ponds on island to drink, or you can get the saltwater mutation and not care

[tall hamlet]

i love beyonce

[steel scaffold]

If they could get scrapped off, bucking worked and the grapple condition wasn’t so easy to hit it wouldn’t be as much of an issue imo

[tall hamlet]

i cant wait to play austroraptor and blast beyonce and then get killed cus i cant hear anything but her screaming in my ear

[sleek marsh]

If bucked off, locked from latching on for 15 seconds

[silk nacelle]

who would win adult carno or cera? asking cuz im trying to hunt a fg cera

[sleek marsh]

Cmon devs I can think of ways to improve all your mechanics in 5 seconds

[rapid herald]

carno

[real charm]

any sauropods yet?

[opal chasm]

well i think pounce is important because without it fighting stegos and larger owuld be impossible or near impossible, and i think its also important for catching things like galli, but excluding these 2 cases of catching way smaller too fast prey and to safely do damage to something that will 1 shot you pounce shouldnt be a usable ability

even then against like gallis/carnos i just use claw attack, gives them a better feeling than being pinned to death and its more fun to track them while they bleed out

[manic fulcrum]

Actually I wanna try something

[sleek marsh]

No

[steel scaffold]

15 is a long time, most players would have tried to turn around by then and run face first into their target without the ability working

[somber urchin]

you can get the saltwater mutation so you can drink/be in saltwater

[manic fulcrum]

I gotta log back onto the server but I wanna do Prime Allo vs Adult Dibble

[rapid herald]

can i

[sleek marsh]

Eh adjustable time but point is to restrict immediate re-latching after being bucked off

[manic fulcrum]

👍

[rapid herald]

oh yeah a prime maia washes a prime allo idk why

[manic fulcrum]

@lost musk if you wanna join as Allo too for a 1v2 to show how busted grapple is

[steel scaffold]

Cause prime Maia gets free cc with a ton of damage and it’s faster

[tall hamlet]

they need to rework it somehow , someone suggested having to do claw attacks to then get the right to pin or something. I understand that it 'needs' it to fight against bigger creatures but thats kinda my point, they built it around pounce just like omni but its not omni, its much bigger and deadlier so theyve just made a creature thats insanely unfun to fight against and isnt even that much slower than other things (due to how close speed is in the isle). allo just needs a rework or something.

[lost musk]

ahh i got hasty @sterile gulch

but i hope it shows that trike is really helpless against rex in most situations, you see how easy it is for me to cripple you

[rapid herald]

bro i swear trike negs

[lost musk]

ggs tho

[tall hamlet]

@sleek marsh gave the idea of building the pounce and i honestly like that idea more because it stops smaller dinos from getting pinned since theyll either die before they even get to able to being pinned, or theyll outmanuver it and avoid being able to get pinned. if pin were to stay i liked that idea

[eternal sable]

I just got jumped by a Stego, a Trike and 2 rexes, and I was playing a Rex, is that normal? lol

[sleek marsh]

Yeah that was my logic

[lost musk]

bros playing the isle from a universe where its balanced 😂 take me with you

[sterile gulch]

I still maintain that with fewer bugs everything will change haha, good PvP and don't say you're bad using Rex, you're actually good, ggs

[manic fulcrum]

@rapid herald wanna go dibble?

[lusty wing]

dont play official servers

[rapid herald]

im on dibble rn

[tall hamlet]

^

[sleek marsh]

And avoid ones with body-down rules

[rapid herald]

unofficial is worse bro

[somber urchin]

mettas den is pretty chill

[eternal sable]

Why? And would you have recommendations for a non-official server friend?

[tall hamlet]

not if u play on a server with good rules

[opal chasm]

tbh there is no real alternative ot allow them to fight a stego without making their base stats absurdly OP

but yeha i mean if they made pounce pin up to prime galli weight, but made the requirements like bleed/stamina more potent so if oyu play to weaken them then you can pin

and if they arent low on bleed/stamina than they shouldnt be able to pounce targets smaller than you at all, but you can pounce things larger than you as allos already do is fine to me

[lusty wing]

metta's den is pretty much the only one i play on
i dont like playing officials because they always have a bunch of mixpackers that will eat oyu alive if they see you and also can have hackers that will also eat you alive

[tall hamlet]

yeah something like that, i agree with this statement. its just not that fun to fight against for anything that's smaller than it so yeah

[opal chasm]

my only counter is that imo prime galli wieght and below should be able to be pinned because the only playables htat re within this range are fast usually prey items and it would be nice, but like i said i usually just use claw attack anyway since its more fun for both parties involved

[sleek marsh]

Mettas den is good. Petits Pieds isn't bad

[opal chasm]

im not a huge fan of mettas den, i enjoy petits pieds but the amount of people can be overwhelming, especially as a solo

[rapid herald]

i honestly prefer being one shotted by baby trikes and dibbles as a 10 ton rex than play on petit peds