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2nd or 4th only
in the switch games?
wait is it hyperbolic inanition
Yuh
yay
Yea that
HYPERS???
ijust found. a deer in petits
dryosaurus
uh guys can u help me which server do i play on im from india i want a server that is pretty close and has a decent number or players
no
he,lo dryos aur
They switched out the body drops to ai drops instead
Do you want an austroraptor one
The isle mobile is quite the idea
Yes I play it
I DO I DO I DO!!
uh guys can u help me which server do i play on im from india i want a server that is pretty close and has a decent number or players
for reals?
Yerp
YESSSSSSS
Holy light
I just escaped a hungry dilosarus, you know the one there hunts great at night and killed the fat guy in Jurrasic park 1. I did everything from going through the jungle, to small tight tree walls narrows
light
can a grown deino grab a grown rex?
claw
75% deino can not grab 75% rex
100% frail elder deino can not grab 75% rex
100% prime elder deino can grab a rex that is swimming unless he is above 10.5t i believe
what does prime mean?

So are we getting dodgeball in the isle ✨
hey islanders
So it turns out that tenontosaurus tail scales arent too far out of the bounds of realism
When you get to a certain growth stage you either start getting weaker and become “frail” or you keep getting stronger and become prime. To get prime you have to check at least four things off of a checklist that the aisle has posted. If you look up how to get prime elder you can find it
You have to do things like visiting sanctuaries, patrol zones, migration zones, maintaining being healthy your whole growth, all before you reach about 75%. If you didn’t unlock prime you will only get to unlock your third mutation. If you did unlock prime you will get to unlock a fourth instantaneously. If I remember correctly (I haven’t played in a while so I’m going off of YouTube videos and Dev blog stuff) your movements B will decrease slightly as a prime but your weight and therefore general power will increase
Why is the new patches not being posted on Steam? That is found in #announcements <@&933486433342222376>
They're not major updates.
Ah okay so only majors get sent. Would be good though to show small ones too. Imo. Since not everyone that play this game is in this discord and may want to know what is fixed.
Rex is kinda dissapointing
in what way? its extremely strong
Extremly low bite force for a rex and the pin mechanic isnt very fun and could have been implemented in a better way
Yep Its also so agil for a big animal but somehow only does 700 damage per bite while weighing 9.4 tons and being known for having the biggest biteforce of all dinosaurs.
So its very OP but in the wrong ways imo
Hey is omni bleed pounce working rn? I've seen some comments/videos that say it isn't
its really bad just use the left mb pounce
Is anything ever working in this game wow
So it works but it just isnt good?
i think so, i just use lmb though as i know the bleed one either does not work or is just so little that its not worth
Wow and they say that omni is a bleeder
after omnis bleed was insane they nerfed it to the ground or broke it, im not sure
the damage pounce is still good from what ive seen
Ok, I like the bleed game xD I'll just play allo like everyone else lol
I feel like dilo is very weak currently or is it just me
allos pounces are buggy as hell, be careful
I don't really use allo pounce, I like the claw swipe.
cause most unofficials have short nights, and also clones dont work half the time
I mean it basically gets pinned knocked down from almost anything
its bleed res is really bad too, just like tenos
And health regen is also bad
if clones worked 100% everytime id play it and just come out at night
"Made improvements to tyrannosaurus & triceratops sparring" now rex stuns in trike head
Pachy is now stronger then a dilo by a good ammount as well and allo just Pins ir
pachy should always be good imo, its the king of small tiers but anything bigger than ceras/carnos it basically cannot touch
Adult pachy should be stronger IMO. Allo should fold dilo.
Yep so dilo gets folded by everything
vs omnis and dilos are weaker than pachy but they can also hunt larger things like dibs
dilo has been thrusted into "need a group" for gameplay that extends beyond being a fantastic juvie hunter
group dilo play allows for mistakes in the initial envenomation and makes up for its lackluster agility, while solo dilo just amplifies the problem
Aha it feels like that
Hey, did anyone noticed any changes to rex V trike sparring?
buff dilos agility, speed up his sprint animation
I think this game holds the world record of longest early access of any game, explain to me why development is taking longer than 10 years, at this rate my grandchildren will be able to play the game not me
Dilo in legacy was the juvi killer, but could still bleed anything out. It's much different now.
its very smooth now
Every update just breaks features too, any YouTube video I watch of this game never ends up teaching me anything meaningful but instead teaches me of something else the developers broke with a new update
The game will truly be better if you just reverted it a couple years back.
well, if we're going based off what the current game is, thats only been in development for about 6 years 
im not sure what the issue is either. they just finished up the last major mechanic that will be part of every playable and we can see the progress speeding up in the playables department at the very least
evrima is for, all intents and purposes, The Isle 2
they remade the game from the ground up
"best coder" meanwhile dondi had stated several times before the incident that he wouldve been fired if he wasnt a close friend
definitely not because his code was so unreadable and spaghetti'fied that updating lighting broke para
just to confirm, ava will be ai first and then playable later on, yes?
this feels like allo should be put in a medieval torture device
most likely yes
Like the one 6 hours ago?
yes
Beipi and sucho
ah, are u sure
im literally using medium effects rn
so I might be sure
What are effects
Oh my ..
beipi eating beipi (evensix sent this to me)
I did not
evensix you evil canni beipi
YEA
KILL him guards
hi
anyone elses fps take a massive hit in the last couple of updates?
i think i went from 130-160 to now 80-90 and it stutters down to 60 alot
what is he doing
real
@wheat moth LMAFO!!! #isle-discussion message
@indigo mountain #isle-discussion message
CAUSE OF what u guys said!!
LLOLLLL
Oh didn't mean to ping you frolo
turks my friend so I dont care ITS FUNNNNNNNYYYYYYYY
Discord acting up
what happen?
turk pulled a oopsie so hes doing a funny
the toxic gossip train
now that i think about it, beipi will be a dead species in the future, once all the semi aquatics are in they we be dying around every corner and then quetz will also be pecking them off the surface of the water
its already almost a dead species, i can only imagine later on
beipis will find somewhere for them
indeed
i dont mind beipi gameplay
Just a few alterations and the para is gonna be animation ready. WooHoo!
Thats neat.
With a jump start since I started animating on this creature years ago in anticipation of this moment.
well, this game try to kill my allo
this thing just crash, then anti-cheat bullieng me, nice
good old para. cant wait to bite it
What sort of alterations are you doing?
Was the rig not up to parr or something like that?
Hold shift when you click reply to disable ping.
up to para
I hate you.
oh

and full server... full server... full server... bruh
I'll lost my allo for this stupid crash and server will never comeback him... or it's forget about death, but low chance
mods please ban hacker he is openly advertising his hacking lifestyle and trying to influence others to hack the game
hes going to get my bank info and after that well im not sure
top 10 isle hackers
You don't have any proof.
Give 👍
evensix how could you say that
some will say its not hacking
i say im not using their defintion
Give me para I need to horse kick a prime maia
someone has observed hacker and he has decided
he is hacker
i personally would love to scream at another animal so loudly to the point its ears bleed
Nuh uh
Thats screenshotting me out of context, your honor, this is all a slander campaign against me. 😔
Rex players when the screaming cow dinosaur blows its head up using a specific frequency (it was discovered rexes are like viltrumites)
I have done nothing wrong ever.
Not ever.
mhm.
"how can i be the killer?!" said man named Murder McMurderson
Feel like para is such a needed dino atm, simply due to the size range of prey it fits into
looks awesome, when is it coming?
you know what is needed? MY GOAT BARY
An unfortunate coincidence but nothing about that actually indicates wrongdoing. 
is the one on the right a prime1
no
Kissen are there any news on human development that you can share? Playable humans not buildings 🙏 🙏 🙏
Those colors are very washed out.
You gotta look at your lighting again Frolo.
i like that he has lips
why does the normal model look so badass
I know i know, im still learning
Isn't Ava supposed to be coming with stuff like kentro and bary(going off of devblog)
I mess around with my lighting every render, so like
i started at the start of december hacker!
probably as AI first but yet
but who knows
devblog sounds like it may be player ready by the time its added
Man </3
I need an ava variant that's just udanoceratops
It's a refreshed rig of the 2019 version. The para at one point in time, had the most up-to-date and advanced rig out of the entire legacy roster. So this updated rig has all the current stuff we use now. So it's even better now. But still has a few kinks to work out. Nothing major though.
**A little trivia for you. **
The OG legacy para was animated using the shant rig. We literally had to open a file for a completely different animal and guestimate how the para would look with those anims, export them, cross fingers and have them retargetted onto the para. And pray they looked good. Because back then, we didn't have the time to make a whole new rig for the para with everything else Bryan and I were already doing. So I pay anyone who questions our dedication a full Nene. Yes, there exists a shantungosaurus with the para's animations that you guys didn't even know existed. lol
@sour craneGotta read the rules before anything else my friend.
Dammit
lol frolo this stupid little austrialain
Add anteater ai that viciously maul omniraptors specifically
shush trunk
Might also want to look at your camera settings, as that also has a very clear effect. The exposure in particular makes a huge difference.
If you want to get familiar with lighting and camera setting I would reccomend trying to do some more extreme scenes, something like an interior shot being fully illuminated by a large hole in the wall, with no interior lighting. That way you can mess around with the bounce lighting from the hole, exposure settings to get it looking right, and color grading to even it all out.
Tis the sort of stuff I do to practice it. 
Shantungosaurus
I wonder how that would do on my pc... ill try thankyou
I like that you guys are having fun setting up your scenes.
Also if you want to do that quickly, try learning UE5, as you will be able to set up and churn out scenes hundreds of times quicker than in blender, but it takes some getting used to, for sure.
Do we have any info on how big ava will be in evrima(id guess 600-1000kg) per chance kissen
any info u can share on bary
it is fun
Neat!
I suppose thats why para previously had a lot of repeated animations from shant?
when I started like this 2 months ago I think ive gotten quite decent
How on earth are the body bugs and performance not listed as high priority issues

where do you get bary and austro models i want to make cool stuff like this
Yeah you've made a lot of progress. It's not about where you start it's about where you end up. Looks like you cared enough to get better. Kudos to you for that.
I agree, i may start trying to do some basic animation later on so I can do some cool things
Where do you even get the models to do these, along with what do you do them on..?
files and blender
Ah, makes sense
ive been helping people like unratedu and dove get the hang of it recently
THE REPLAYS ARE FIXED
OMG
TYSM DEVS I LOVE YOU THIS IS SO HELPFUL BEST FIX IN MONTHS
filipe exists!
Hello kissen! Do you think implementing it in the game will be difficult?
I just want hardware lumen support. 
there there hacker
It would take em like 5 minutes to enable it 
its ok little one
I NEEEED MOREE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
(sorry its It's one of my favorite dinosaurs in the game.)
Hello, in the game The Isle, I no longer see the server list, is that normal? And when I host a game, the game doesn't start, I just get a black screen.
switch to evrima in steam by going on properties then betas then evrima public branch
ok i test
im going to play the isle when i wake up and try to grow something with a long growth time
maybe i will continue growing my stegosaurus on petits! or grow an allosaura on mettas den. many choices
I dunno.
hey the isle just got an update
Eventually
i wonder what's changed usually 🤔
anyone know how long the horde test servers will be down
until a new HT begins
Modding is where a lot of gamedevs and artists got their start. Remember that.
they were up last night ?
Morning Kissen
You guys really don't need to stare at the changelists like that. You're going to drive yourselves mad by staring at the clock.
Good morning!
hey kissen! I wanted to ask what the devs team thoughts are about carnos current balance if possible :3 I feel many people think the stun it can do without running is a bit too much
Good morning kissen hope you and the rest of the dev team are doing well 
Are there any French people here?
i was moreso showing him the update was the one listed in #announcements 7 hours ago, and not one that had just released :P
flashbacks of french history
Can try in #evrima-eu
Hold shift when you click reply to disable ping
im fataling every time i play after this patch........
@shut atlas What are you talking about?
What does that have to do with modding? lol
I'm just asking if there are any French people to play with
Hold shift when you click reply to disable ping
mb forgot to turn off ping
those who know it insert trollge cringe meme
When bary will be released
@shut atlas lol🤣
when it releases
S'ok. The point is to make sure you reply to something relevant to what you want to talk about. I skip those replies otherwise.
Bro
No signal boosting round hurr
When it’s ready
i heard everybody craved this
ill ask again then, whats the devs team thoughts about the state carno is currently in? including its stun without running
<t:1770382840:R>
Kissen can we expect any sort of announcement/roadmap that humans are getting more development love now that elders are implemented into the live branch and dino game play loop is for the most part finished(i guess?)
Yeah you don't need to do that. You can just ask.
HOW
I see
AND REX CRUSH GOT ANGLE NERF
they were supposed to, apparently, have been getting development after Diabloceratop Update
but i doubt it went into full fruition
love and hope, methinks
Hey kissen, is Spino close to start being animated? Since para is on its way
spino.... I cant wait
immediately tell me or face the consequences
@ time
LETS GOOOOO
Kissen, is there any news on the FSR? I heard Dondi spoke about it a while back but has not said anything since.
isle devs are so W
hello kissen any info on bary
thank you
np
Yeah, but elders are now released for quite some time and the recent devblog wasnt very informative on human development, buildings aside
kissen para will be in hordtest with cama or quetz
I haven't heard anything lately about it but to be fair, me and the animation team are fully focused on getting these new playables out. I remember thinking the headbutts were a bit fast when we made them but it was necessary for what they wanted to use it for. But haven't heard much else dev wise since.
Though I have heard whispers in the community that the carno is strong. But unfortunately, opinions in the community can be so polarizing, grounded in opinion rather than fact etc that it's hard to know what to believe or not until it's fully verified.
i am presuming that Humans are likely pushed back to post-main branch
Probably not.
sucks but tis be the curse of Isle
Humans later
at least better then lore release
any info on bary?
Gen2s did get some hidden development that Don didn't want to be shown
I.e. John Khan
Is there any news on new limited mouse pads? like for allo
john khan and john cake riding into battle
so some things
but it just seems to be just nothing of priority
Hey, can any admin help me? My dino's stuck on this branch on official eu 1
good morning Kissen
can you maybe tell us what the unique mechanic is behind oviraptor?
That could be the case tbh yeah, since bug fixing is a priority rn. It still frickin sucks
It's being implemented and it's sounds worked on. But I think you guys already knew that.
EEEEGGGGSSS
When is Ai fox coming
this is a very understandable take and it makes sense you wanna focus on getting the new playables out, i personally think the headbutts would be fine if they didnt stun similarily weighted (or slightly higher, prime cera for example) opponents if the carno was just standing still, nice to hear youve heard some of the feedback about carno though :>
🫠
hopefully there is a time that the devs consider full speed for Humans a priorty
over silly 'dinosaurs' (they weren't even real things!!!!)
lightclaw that was my quickest download of my life
Please no.
/unstuck
Silly Lightclaw, lore isn't real.
Do i type it in the chat?
yes
are we ever gonna get the AI moose that was once shown many moons ago, lol
speaking of AI, whats the current placement of ava? last i heard its still ai first playable later, but ive heard some whispers that say otherwise
おたる水族館のフンボルトペンギンです。
子供の声が入っているので気になる方はミュートでご観賞下さい。
下のURL奇襲を仕掛けるペンギンの動画です。
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CNW0GlKGaOw&feature=youtu.be
Humboldt penguin at Otaru Aquarium
#おたる水族館
#ペンギン
#...
woah rule 7
I tried it diden't work
Any ETA on when organ/body bug and performance gets fixed?
but in which way
can he grab them faster/while running ?
or something else
i wonder if there are special animations needed for the redwood trees, that is more than just swaying in the wind
Hi Kissen, do you have any estimate of the Para stats, in terms of weight and speed?
it no work if player clos to you or you sit
There isnt really an ETA for updates.
kissen who is the most finished Austro kentro bary or ovi
What do you mean?
Yeah we hear what you guys say. We have always said we pay attention to you guys critiques. We just don't take kneejerk reaction just cause you guys bring something up. And there are a lot of people that take that as "being ignored". We have to verify something is an issue and then decide if it's an issue we intend to alter. If we agree, we change it. If not, we don't. And usually, it takes awhile for us to gather enough information to make those decisions. Plus we're always doing other things all at the same time. But we do get the information so keep giving it. Respectfully of course. 😉
Wooohooo
I'd say austro and kentro are probably neck and neck.
I absolutely love the para renders u shared with us 
KENTROOOOO
the day kentro comes out to ht you wont see me outside my room for weeks
SAME
oooooo
is the tickle chicken getting any attention? 🐔
Oh yeah? What about the kentro has you so excited?
bary is just a bit behind or far?
Spiky boi
but in which way does the oviraptor it 
can he grab them faster/while running ?
or something else
i love the porcupine feel and hes just sooo cute, i really like the defensive stance, im hoping itll be able to be relatively nimble on its own so i can master it like ive mastered pachy >:3
yes! here too
love his design, love do play a stego with less grow. and i do expect he will play different in attacks
austroooooo
I'll watch this as soon as I can.
i feel like ill enjoy a smaller cuter steg sooo much, especially if its speed is around tenos speed, maybe a tiny bit slower
try again
I guess we'll just have to see.
fair
I still feel kinda clickbaited by Kentro's model versus the concept art.
Low-key Agreeable mili
thank you
He looks like a really skinny horse in the concept art
me with dilo dossier vs model
its spikes are very small yeah i noticed that while looking at its elder
Kissen, when Camara is released, will the food system in the game be redone? Because it's kind of strange that he eats a tree and the whole thing disappears.
i love defensive dinosaurs that can be equally as troublesome if played aggressively if youve mastered the dinosaur, so im super hyped for kentro
Will bary and Austro be on same hotest??
How you gonna get clickbaited when we've said over and over and over that concept art is not indicative 1 to 1 of how something will be in-game? You baited yourself.
I do like the longer tail and extra spikes though.
Guys, do you think the kentro will be able to be pinned down? Like, judging by the way the pin works, I dont know if that would be even possible in Kentros case.
Trust me, I know.

I hope not
im hoping that the shoulder spikes will deal DOT to omnis latched onto its hind legs, itd be sooooo cool
But I too, like everyone else on the dev team, does not always get what I want. None of us do. And that includes Dondi. He doesn't get everything he wants either.
There is always give and take, holding and folding.
ahhh... singleplayer
wouldnt it have been nice
i don't think singleplayer has been ruled out yet though
maybe like how omni on omni works, you will take damage and bleed but its still posible, i assume for a rex it would just pin cause it can tank it
ooooOOOOWWWWWAAAAAAAAA
o algo
if anything
it'd probably be something we'd get if The Isle finally reaches 1.0
*1.0... *
can the JOKE SIT!!!!!! and MARINATE!!!
I dont think so because the spikes are huge. I dont see a pin option due to how much damage the spikes would do.
is this iron lung
i think omni wont be able to latch onto its back, possible on its forelimbs but with dmg reducted due to the huge shoulder spike in the way, and the hindlegs the omni will get dot cuz the shoulder spike keeps hitting it as the kentro bucks
yes, sorry
That’s really weird tho how would Rex tank a giant bone going through the top of its mouth
Now why would you try to trigger me like this? Yes, it would have been fantastic. And we would have been done years ago. We'd probably be on the third installment by now.
Really enjoyed that movie.
Have some small gripes but its still a solid 9/10
ive heard polarizing opinions
look what they did to poor trike 😭
The Archipelago
(There is a reason I am solely focused on singleplayer development before daring to touch multiplayer lol)
pacing was slow
but damn was it great FOR THE GENRE!!!
which it seems people forget that genres exist
literally to help the audience find what they expect
Trike has actually been disrespected so badly that I don’t ever wanna play it again
the art requires 
Idk, but I imagine that if irl a rex would have tried to pin the kentro like it does in game, the spikes would have impaled its head and brain after one bite attempt.
lettuce insert the multiplayer iceberg of why multiplayer development is a pain :))
Precisely
now WHY would he throw that and not Bepsi?
Indeed.
I think there was a bit of detachment from what was happening on screen that I didn't expect, and that was a little annoying. Like, for instance, the coordinates don't mean a damn thing to the audience throughout the whole movie, and even early on it doesnt really show you what piloting the iron lung is like. Its more like you are sitting in the room with someone as they are playing Iron lung, rather than playing it along with them.
But, other than that.
Really loved the story, really loved the vibes, and the movie was great.
Kissen, is there anything new you can tell us about Camara? Will the food
system be the same? Will a tree disappear when it eats?
inaccurate! misinfo! get him OUTTA HERE
Kissen would quetz grow as fast as it weighs or would it grow rlly long because well it's quetz?
I am still being tempted by the siren song of co-op multiplayer for le hunting game. 
im fully expecting a 3+ hour long grow for quetzal
and i am ready for it
I hope so too

I really hope humans get some development this year or atleast some publicly known development
Wise! I've seen too many devs try to emulate our development 1 to 1. Don't do that. Incorporate the things we did right and avoid all the things we did wrong. If you have to do a recode, bloat your roster or overcommit, you're marking your project for doom. Keep it simple.
Kissen how is our favorite Magy doing 
honestly
if they wanted to show how the iron lung really worked, without boring exposition that would not have pushed the story
i.e. making the audience see what it looks like moving, outside the iron lung, then it loses that continued interior-only shot cinematography (+ continued mise en scene)
which i congratulate the DoP for achieving
I mean, if u look at Quetz size, it should be somewheere between Maia and trike imo when it comes to growth speed.
I miss seeing it 
i have a schizo theory they may possibly release in some form this year due to the work we saw leak with HT
but again, schizo theory... until its not
which work, for humans?
I have like zero clues what so ever
I mean, it's roaming around here somewhere. Patiently waiting.
the early prototype UI and john khan
To be killed for sport 😭
it wasn't in HT!!
it was just in Main
from letting Shift Insert be a thing for admins
magy got thrown on the back burner?
Just don't upset them or startle them.
they might make you puke 
Hell yea Cama is good in all but I wanna see my little man syndrome MAGY!!!!!
@dense kestrel i.e.
there is some new work for Humans
which was playable for a tiny bit
but it wasn't much of it
Kissen what is bary doing rn? 
lol They give that energy
hopefully swimming properly now
Ik I saw it in just hoping we saw more like idk publicly announced human work
im most excited for camara
humans very well could be shadow dropped
It started as a fairly rough copy of The Isle just with a different approach, then we scaled it back to a large scale singleplayer game, then we scaled it even further back to a more systems based hunting game, now its being scaled EVEN FURTHER back to a 2 hour demo for that hunting game lol
As a plus side, as the scale has been shrunk repeatedly, the design and scope for the other projects has also been refined quite a lot. To the point where if we switched back to that multiplayer title now, it would probably be 10 times easier to put together than the version we started with like 2.5 years ago... which was a complete and utter mess lol
https://tenor.com/view/rat-rats-drive-driving-car-gif-26521606 Is the Rats AI in production and are they on their way?

Oh, yeah! Will humans be a thing at some point? I am genuinely curious to see how they will be implemented. Imo they should be like the survivors in Ark, but more of mentenance workers of the compounds, scientists and maybe some guards. But to not be able to overpower the environment in any way.
strain please
humans. No. No thank you
unless it's just fully done Humans
John isle
well now i hope for it more to spite you
did you hear
Anthony Casalena is doing music for EoE
or just a track
who knows
the funny kentrosaur
The guy
the tail looks odd
I really hope they are like an extraction type of game mode like dondi said
something something man in my dreams something something
no quets, if that helps :))
Nah, I got sick of extraction shooters...
quets? thats not until after camara...
Yuppers
goodmornig kissen Neon says hello and is excited for quetz!
quests (confirmed from Don)
That’s a good thing
but things can change i suppose
but one would hope they had finalised their idea for Humans 10 years
but
i dont think this is supposed to happen...
Oh, I just meant simple things like showing the proxy sensors working before the first contact scene. Or showing some navigation along the map, by just having Simon drag his finger along the path... or showing the map in full, flashing the coordinates on screen, etc. Not anything more robust than that, but just enough to give an idea of what he's doing, and where he is going in relation to everything. Rather than just having the audience know that he's doing it I would rather them show the process of him doing it if that makes sense.
Should I watch it (ur honest opinion)
- Cant wait for Camara
- Did juvie trike speed her nerfed? feeling like a baby turtle rn
Chicken butt
Oh, thats kinda interesting.
I would figure they would want a different style of music to set themselves apart... but I guess they haven't exactly been super original before this point so its not all that surprising.
a horrible thing, in my opinion
because i am expecting Humans will be, for the most part, tool-less
as in
without any (or without a lot of) sandboxy experience things to do within non-linear world
in open world
Yeah 100%
Its a very good movie.
I doubt it’ll be like hard quests itll be more like guidelines
Good good. Best not to paint yourself into a corner. Don't make our mistakes or the mistakes of others that followed us too closely. Give me a good dino game that I didn't have to help make. The food doesn't taste as good to the chef that had to sweat and get burned in the kitchen making it. Lemme eat something good I didn't have to cook please.
this has been commented on, its disabled temporarily due to weird issues, hence why omni got a giant bleed nerf too
At most humans are gonna spawn in with like a combat knife, some rations, and a flash light i think
no quests
I’ll wait till I can watch it at home then

Hello, does Anyone know how to drop meat when G bugs out on organs?
I'll try 
chief has a new pet!
no quests! This is so
I dont think an extraction mode will fit at all.
from what we know
basically that, likely
maybe with a handgun
maybe not
No no. Adjust your attitiude now. You'll DO IT.
uhhhh... i dont think password locked servers work? I just joined my friends private server which has a password... without typing the password

I can't hit any key but Q with the bugged meat in my mouth 😭
It wouldn't be that tricky to design.
Wouldn't be the worst option they could do.
Honestly if they did that it would actually make it a lot easier to connect the dinosaur and human halves of the game. Since you could sync the extraction sites for the humans with the migration zones or hotspots of animals. Thereby creating very natural interactions as both sides of the game are doing separate objectives.
U have to relog
Can't even H for a safe log
Hi, kissen. Is there any consideration process over the fact if giga going to have ability to smell blood from the long distances? Because that might be cool little ability for a carchar🦈 adontosauride
Ty Ty, was trying that now just waiting the minutes out to relogin lol.
Yeah, but extraction shooters will make the humans more like hunters than survivors imo. I would rather see them as colonies gathered around compounds.
the fun ||hard|| part is getting people not to willingly shoot dinos (unless you have to)
hey kissen with Quetz will it have the stealth aspect similar to dino like ambushing from the sky. idk how to word it but like an ariel ambush predator
Extraction isn't a rigid format. If they went in that direction they would have a lot of room to breathe, I more just mean adding extraction elements would allow for better influence over human player location for more consistent interaction.
But yeah I do see what you mean.
I was just thinking out loud if anything lol
That is why I would see them as colonies in compounds. Quests could be a thing in the normal game for them too, since they would have to keep the mentenance of the compounds.
(Could just give creatures armor ratings to prevent people with automatic rifles from melting a rex, while still keeping them vulnurable to slower, higher caliber weapons)
Also, would be cool for the dino-human interactions to be more complex rather than carnivore-herbivore-omnivore interactions.
kissenn any news on baryonyx or no?
I love this new deino super lunge and i love how this new super lunge is staying forever
I’ve killed so many stego families with it 🥹
Would be cool then to be able to build small temporary settlements around the map, but in a limited number.
why are dilos hitboxes so buggy
Lets hope that humans don't get something as op as power armour like that lol.
Might be unfair for the dinos.
idk I've always had a vendetta against base building. I much prefer when a survival game doesn't lean into stockpiling.
I commented earlier
XDDD would be kinda dope to choke slam a raptor though...chiefs pin to win is an arm barXD
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I am not talking about actual base building. Just some tents a fence and a few with lights or something to see if something approaches you. Nothing more.
Is there any news on ava?
Hoping it's a bit more accessible and quick to grow than dibble for casual players.
Once players start focusing on hiding in a corner and gathering resources to last as long as possible, they stop actively engaging with the scavenging, and thereby reduce potential interactions out in the world.
Yeah I understand. Just telling you so you can do a search for it.
Only 'power armour' I'd want would be something like the loader from aliens.
@lapis scrollHold shift when you click reply to disable ping
I suppose. But again, promoting players to just establish themselves and sit there doesn't sound as appealing as constantly sneaking around and scouring zones for resources to stay alive. Even if its only temporary or archaic, anything past a tent in the woods to cook food would get players out of the survival mindset and into the base building mindset, even if only slightly.
Of all the upcoming stuff I think i'm most excited for ava and austro.
Love the lil guys.
Well, then again.
The game isn't really built as a challenging survival game to begin with. So maybe base building wouldn't conflict all that much.
Still, I dont see them patrolling the map like dinosaur do. That would be like us dinos chasing for prime. Not ok at all for humans. There could be tasks for exploration missions that would make humans walk around more, but that would be it imo.
yo whats needes for prime on omni?
Also, when it comes to actual hunting, they should rely on hunting deers and boars primary.
Like, to gather meat for diet for example.
I don't see why humans needing to constantly be on the move and scavenging would be "Not ok at all"
idk...
Hey Kissen what do you think? 
About what?
About humans scavenging?
I feel both approaches should be valid. Exploring the map and building up a home area.
Because they are humans and not dinosaurs. They were never meant to walk around all the time. the compounds were built for them particularly to survive there. Sure, there could be vehicles to drive them here and there, but since you dont start naked on the beach like in Ark, but with a decent variety of techonoly around, you should be able to rely on scavenging primarly, but mainly on the human colony.
Human gameplay.
Being designed around persistent scavenging or base building as the mindset to promote. Which is your preference?
Any news on the grass render?
Also, nothing would stop them from exploring and searching for resources somewhere else, let alone explore the other compounds, gathering data bout the wildlife of the island etc. I think there would be enough travelling involved this way.
None.
I have a temporary fix if you would like to try it though.
Keep in mind it has a very large effect on performance.
The grass is swaying even though I have low effects
I can try it
Like, humans need to have a different game style compared to dinosaurs.
Why does it have to be or?
But there are pros and cons to both. **None of what I'm about to say is indicative of what we're actually gonna do. Lemme preface with that. ** But the cons of one can potentially be the pros of the other. Resulting in a whole experience based around what fits you best as a player.
guys his colors are almost done 
Hello kissen, how are you today?
Also, there could be human classes too that would suit different play styles too. Like, researchers, explorers, guards, guides that would have the map of the place to lead the expeditions etc. A bit complex but I think it will suit the humans well.
And even if you were base building, scavenging would be a necessary element of that. Because the big bad wolf can come huff and puff at any moment and blow your base and your life back to square one.
i am a big fan of humans in the isle
Kissen I have a question! Jungle scene or plains scene?
volcano
helo kissen
Also, I agree about scavenging, but that could be fulfiled through hunting, and gathering plants. I am not saying it should not be a part of the human gameplay, but it shouldnt be the focus of it.
There are some players that like the idea of turtling up and hording resources to see how long they can last. Then there are players that like to stay on the move or accomplish a specific objective.
oh theres gonna be some greedy human players for sure and its gonna be great
The big bad wolf (Cerato) and I’ll chuff, and I’ll chuff, and steal your food
Regardless of how things end up, none of it will be a linear pathway. Because the animals will show up and put a stop to even your best laid plans.
How you gonna horde food? You'll only attract hungry mouths that way.
I love the quetz animations, cannot wait for it.
And if you stay on the move, you're out in the elements and exposed to danger constantly.
So there are pros and cons to whatever playstyle you guys find appealing. But one constant is that the humans are at an insane disadvantage no matter what. Cause the animals don't run out of ammo, have better senses and are always active.
Yes, that is why I believe there should be human classes with different objectives and purposes. But the gameplay has to rely on teamwork for successful survival. LIke, you can be a lonely hunter, sure. But then you cant make much of an abandoned compound other than a cold room with a roof over your head for the night for example. Let alone hunting successfuly, defending against omnis for example and overall surviving long term.
so will humans still be able to tame dinos?
Do you have any video how to do it?
I pray for the love of God that no.
Kissen, speaking of animals having better senses, do you guys still plan to rework scent?
Tame players lmao... don't think so no
My thinking is more that those two mindsets are still somewhat contradictory. By being focused on sustaining the base you already have, that is already a far cry from being solely focused on living meal to meal. It wouldn't outright eliminate the need for scavenging, but it would let players find a comfort zone that otherwise wouldn't be present if they were forced to constantly be on the move.
But Alternatively, base building allows for a lot more types of interactions to play out. Regardless of the shift in mindset, it would still allow for some fun player behavior. Fighting over a base, standoffs, creature attacks, searching for specific items to uphold that base, etc. Are all things that wouldn't be present without it, and those things are fun.
But in my opinion I don't know if those merits outweigh the effect it would have on the mindset of human players in the game. I just don't think you can actually have both without making sacrifices one way or the other, and obviously I am heavily biased towards survival as the sole focus.
theres ai dinos
Oh, sorry for getting side tracked, lemme go grab a message I sent before explaining how to do it.
I think the dev reffered to the possibility to sense nearby food, corpses and water falls. Yes, lets say u can identify a corpse if you are close through Q, a waterfall, or something like that. But nothing further than a few dozens of meters.
I think the biggest hurdle to get over is going to be dinosaurs understanding how dangerous humans can be and respecting it and humans understanding how dangerous dinosaurs can be and respecting it. That is what I'm foreseeing as the biggest hill to climb. Because both sides are going to expect to dominate the other under all circumstances and that isn't going to always be the case. There are going to be instances and situations that favor one over the other on an ever sliding scale. So until that is fully understood, there's going to be a lot of complaining on both sides in my opinion.
just the thought of being a lil guy who says "GO AWAY" as he runs through a jungle is cool to me
i dont want to spend an isleillion hours growing something like stego, i just want to be a silly little guy running around and rolling in mud while being a bit spiky
There could be...certain interactions, maybe, like with babies, but neutrality is the best you can hope for imo.
So dinosaur enjoyers should go watch Bambi and human enjoyers should go watch The Ghost and The Darkness.
Maybe a request to turn the player’s Dino into an ai for entomb perks or smth
But then it would turn into Ark wouldn't it? Humans riding dinosaur is cool to some extent. In video games its ehh, but the series Primal with the caveman was interesting. I respect ur opinion, but i'd rather not have humans riding on ai dinos .. 
Lol scary, just as i was about to finish safe logging out i heard giant footsteps near me, but i made it 😄
Kissen do you think it is possible we could see a comparison of a quetz to a human in some near future? I have a hard time grasping the scale of it based on those animations.
hilarious name but yea something like that, i know quetz concept had like a robot but its alwasy subject to change
And if I wanna watch happy feet play beipi
I'm really excited for humans not only because it is another "playable" but because it basically splits The Isle into 2 sides. Same prey-hunter concept, but totally different experience
Alright, you can increase grass render distance (and everything else) by editing the Engine.ini, this isn't modifying anything about the game, its just editing the values that are already being used by the game engine, so its effects are inherently limited, but something like render distance can be changed.
First, go into your file explorer and navigate to LocalAppData, then TheIsle, then Saved, Config, WindowsClient, and then in there should be a file called Engine, or Engine.ini
Open up that file with notepad, and paste the following cvar at the bottom:
[SystemSettings]
r.ViewDistanceScale=15
Then, save the file, and go into the files properties, and set the file to "Read Only" and once you've done that, you should be able to launch the game. If you ever want to turn it off, just go in reverse order.
Then open the file that says “Lore”
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Thank you
HERE IS A BIG QUESTION! Should humans be on every carninvores diet? Or the possibility to eat humans should be unlocked with a mutation? Like, humans are not naturally a diet for any carnivore, so I would choose the mutation to be able to eat humans.
Make it a mutation
Just like cannibalism.
based suggestion
i watch The Lions of Tsavo by Bob Gymlan on youtube just about once every two months
its such an insane story
Is anyone else seeing that a few servers are still down?
Mutation to sometimes be able to eat 1% of your stomach
The diet list doesnt really promote particular hunting behaviors at all, so its not like it would effect much unless you made humans actively harmful to consume... then a mutation to bypass it would be necessary.
Although obviously that wouldn't really happen, I doubt they would make Humans equivalent to cannibalizing or anything like that. So in the end it doesn't really matter much if its on their diet or not.
Nah, just mutation I think. It wouldnt make sense to...add anything to the diet since humans were never a part of it.
Im saying humans will give hardly any food so wasting a whole mutation slot on it seems excessive
Fantastic documentary. Highly recommend
I see what you're saying but it can't be glossed over that making/maintaining a base does not in and of itself guarantee comfort in any way. Because food is fininte and of constant concern. You won't be planting replenishing food in concrete. So eventually, you will have to leave. And even if you managed to forage a fair amount of food and store it, it's still finite, may go bad and will attract animals. So there's not going to be any getting around the survival aspects even if there is base building. I don't think building a base automatically translates to a lack of survival gameplay.
All hypothetical of course. Just chatting.
I am suggesting it in order to not make humans a pray option for dinos. Killing them, yeah, no problem. But a lot of small and average sized dinos would actively pursue hunting humans, which I dont really find ballanced.
yay im rendering
can someone give me some good unofficial servers that have discor and an inv to their discrord
?
Metta's Den
in regards to the food attracting animals thing, what would you think about oviraptor being able to use its unique beak to open tin cans/rations
i believe this was wavepoole's idea and dondi "didnt think about that"
good luck hording preservables when funny bird swarm appears
dino den server?
Also, that wouldnt make any carinvore a human hunter. They would coexist a lot easier if not every carnivore would see humans as prey.
Yeah we can probably do that in the future when we size it. Which I think is supposed to be soon.
no ew
NO. GOD NO NOT THAT ONE. THIS IS DIFFERENT
What is wrong with it?
whats the name then
Just out of curiosity, never played there
i like the visual concept in my head of an oviraptor holding a can of beans in both hands and then slamming its beak down on the top of it, all while making scrungly noises
Petits Pieds is good, have a NA and a EU server
sorta like the beginning of the Disney Dinosaur movie
Thank you very much, it would be lovely to see in the next devblog or a random drop. 🙂
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, I see what you mean, and it would obviously still be a resource battle, but the thing I'm really focusing on is the change in mentality.
Kinda like how diets shifted the focus of the player finding food from staying alive to sustaining a high growth rate. The ability to gather food and preserve it over longer periods, or just gathering multiple meals in advance in general. Would change how the player thinks about scavenging.
Instead of "I need food right now otherwise I'll die" it becomes "I need to gather food right now otherwise we will die in like an hour." It's not that big of a difference, but I still think it has a notable impact on how a player thinks about the game. Again, like with the effect that diets had.
So its just more a question of what is worth more as a designer. Even if the end behaviors are quite similar.
Kissen will you guys fix the ctrl attack on trike? Or Is It meant to do like that?
would you reccomend playing on nerf or triassic?
As long as I get to live out my Disney Carno experience as the Hyper Carno I’m happy
just need to upsize it about 6 more times
nightmare fuel
rate my first blender model (soon to be triceratops)
Kitten is this all prime missions bugged ? Or hidden. My same route 4 mz 6 pz for trike worked for first 4 trike then last two failed?
its not a bug its just going in and out of spar to use the left click attack, if thats the one your on about
Fun fact. It was initially just supposed to be a Trex. But Disney wanted something new & different, so we got Carnotaurus
Then they never made another 
would you reccomend playing on nerf or triassic?
austroraptor is having such a hard time.. im on vc with them
Stop giggling
well spamming ctrl doing the movement while attacking is op asfk that sounds like a bug?
I have done everything and the grass is still the same. I have dome something like this before and it didnt work too. I saved everything idk what is wrong.
Servers US 8, 11, 13, and 14 are still down for me since last night. Is it the same for you guys? Or do i need to fix something on my end?
its been in the game since dibble came out, you used to be able to do it without going out of spar
Odd
The ice age
Age
im going into blender with no tutorials. wish me luck
I’m sorry
not all pz and mz are active all the time maybe you just got unlucky and most were not active
I'm so sorry for your loss

i'll power through
Been playing around with Maya so I get it
it was active there was plants and diets inside
Maya
Mayasaura
Yes Maya. Not Maia
Their Rex design was so cool tho 
Oh

the maia looks terrible!
I could never get the hang of Maya, at least for modeling. Animation wise it was pretty solid though.
at least 2 of the mz and 4 of the pz?
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Iirc looked more like a giga than anything
what the hell is with its front limbs
its a older render of mine, dw about it
dont they bend the other way though
I’ve been animating since I was like 14 so I’m a bit ahead on that, modeling kicks my butt
Delta northen jungle northen plains also 3 pz literally was active in my compass other pzs had a food inside this means active for someone
14???????
quetz is a bird
was this a get it out of the way fast render
I almost always failed prime when going to north plains and north jungle MZs and PZs. COuldnt tell why, despite having more than enough active PZs.
yes
Woah!!
I think I did tgat in like 10 ish minutes
you are modeling now and look at your age its really not that crazy tho
Man time really does fly
eh, not modeling, posing
oh yeah same thing
no... no its not
Hope at least one dev explain this station its not fun to play after roaming entire map and not getting prime as a trike
baardo does modeling, like redwoods or creature models, I do the funny haha I grab skeleton and move it
has anyone tried to look upside down with a corpse recently or not
Prob because the elder requirements vs how you are supposed to play the game don’t always align. So it feels metagamy to obtain it
But also traveling isn’t all you have to do
Hey guys, can anyone please explain in detail how i get prime on an omniraptor?
Thank you!
Thats the problem only dondi said you will get prime always if you play like you should nothing more
The big man owner himself said to play the game and you'll get it more often than not
I feel you but mentality is a hard thing to predict. Because players are individuals and can each approach the same situations differently. So all you can do is focus on the gameplay reinforcing what you want. But people are still going to look at it how they look at it. And it will vary.
All in all, even if there was no base building, the players will still largely be using human structures as bases just for the added layer of perceived protection. It's better than being out in the open at night. But may not be safe enough to stay their multiple days in a row. Players will horde food regardless because it's a resources that may not be easy to find and expeditions to gain more of it will put your life (and current resources) at risk should you run into a dangerous animal. Which is like 99% of the roster. So the survival element will be ever present whether humans can build some fences and tents or not. Because there's nothing they can build that would provide complete protection. There's just too many threats. So if people have a base building mentality (whatever that means) the survival gameplay will eventually come knock knock knocking.
Bush simulator ain't getting you Prime 
Terrible fate
He can't really control that with the game as it is. The mechanics are all very binary, so its not like they have the ability to grade you on a curve. A checklist is honestly their only option, so you just happening to not complete it sometimes is just kinda how it has to be.
Oh alright, but like isnt it about getting perfect diet and visiting places?
yeah that's what mostly works
Okay tydm!
Is there a chance quetz releases this year?
what i follow is visit multiple migration zones get to sanctuary get perfect diet do not canni always keep at least 1 diet throughout your life (no infertile) and when i can: get nested in and/or nest someone else in
I don't know who sent that and got deleted but search for Kouga's Elder guide on YouTube, they cover the checklist in there.
Most requirements yes, you can just do normally while playing. But for MZ’s & PZ’s (while they are incredibly bugged and have a multitude of issues), Carnivores are fine to wander & follow zones cause that’s just how they have always played
For herbivores/omnivores it’s a different story. Because now you are encouraged to LEAVE the place your food is supposed to be, just to go find zones that have nothing to do with you that have no value to you at all
Okay tysm!!
And you have to worry about more than carnivores at that. An herbivore won't eat you but it can and will shake you down for your MREs.
So yes, I do feel that at the moment, the elder system is kinda contradictory to herbivores
hi kissen are you satisfied with rex how it is right now or will there be some major reworks or balance changes?
That checklist so bugged from south plain to swamp %90 gave prime but my entire map didnt
yay
Ideally you could just fix it by making requirements tied to herbivores following their MZ’s rather than visiting them
I mean... its kinda contradictory to most things. But it is what it is.
John Cake's chin kills every dino within a 100 meter radius
cause its an OLD datamined checklist and not an official one and they said its outdated and added more requirements and maybe removed some of the ones on it so
...
We do have the updated one though.
Can we get an actual checklist in game for the prime requirements? Like, at least we know what zones work and what zones dont work.
when how TELL ME
but this is wrong like devs dont say anything about it and we just using data mine and still doing missions from datamine sad
kissen do u know if there is talk of giving herra and ptera the same prime leniancy that the other smaller small tiers have
because devs dont want us to know
At least imo, it’s not too different to how I’ve always played carnivore. Wander the map, go zone to zone and find players. Though yes there is def a bit of meta gaming I sometimes feel the need to do when it comes to hitting zones (primarily because they are so bugged, so following them is virtually impossible)
Had it since the update dropped.
It's pretty much the same as before with just the added free requirement for the little goobers.
Ok
I would hope so for Herra at least
herra prime is an absolute chore
idk i need to catch hypno 🤣
Really now, what do the devs want to keep the prime requirements a secret?
I doesnt make sense to me.
All the small dino prime are a chore, it’s literally on the clock simulator
it doesnt make sense to anyone except devs normal
It is the core mechanic of the elder system. Why keep it secret?
not really troo is quite easy to get prime same with dryo and hypsie
And this is why people will data mine 
alright islecord, ive run into an issue
my blender wont open
WAIT IT OPENED
yeap frail dinos punished hard and we dont know how to avoid this 😍
Get prime to avoid bad stats 
Yeah, tell us!
If everyone can get it with minimal effort it may as well just happen automatically. How i see it, having an enigmatic list of things to do keeps the game interesting
0/10 rage bait
So that people figure out how to do things themselves. Which imo is fine because the player gets rewarded for continuous play and learning of their gameplay experiences
That being said, The elder’s imo shouldn’t be as mandatory as they feel, but rather a bonus for going above & beyond and engaging with the game. It shouldn’t really be the end of the world if you don’t get prime elder. Unfortunately with the way frail adults are vs how some of the elders are just straight up unfair. Yes it does feel more punishing than it should be
its really hard on herra and ptera 
It is not minimal effort dude. Have u played on Petits? 80% of the time u dont make it out of highlands alone dude.
Personally, I dont think elder should have two tiers
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Do we know the exact prime requirements?
give me a megalania video
prime shouldnt be a thing you cant live without as apexes and kinda the mid tiers too, as a frail trike/stego you get pinned by a prime rex and ur done gg and as a frail omni and cera ur extremely slow (same with maia and dibble)
Man, but if I want to get it? I traveled 2/3 of the map not just once and didnt get prime. Frail elder existence is pure pain and the prime makes a huge difference.
if i ever get prime on anything regardless of the species i end myself
I'm too tired to talk about this right now so I'ma go take a nap... but just know, I'm coming for you.
I shouldn’t feel the need to throw myself off a cliff if I don’t get prime. I do think the debuffs we Eventually obtain are a bit much. Especially since the sheer speed drop makes it virtually impossible to actually entomb if you get seen by players
if you get prime you end yourself?
I really think you should know what to do to get prime. The challenge is surviving untill you get it.
Why ..
i meant dont get prime 😭
cause its peak
Also, if you feel comfortable sitting in one spot to eat and relax, it is fine. After all, you are not forced to get prime. But if I travel around the map, fight and survive untill 75%, then why shouldnt I get prime?
ok/. blender people how do i move the model
no one figure out how to do things themselves buddy either they are watching youtube video or following this datamined missions?
No, the game is figuring out that you have to pass through multiple inactive patrol and migration zones and leave the active ones which goes completely counter intuitive to the purpose of migrations in the first place. Duhhh
WAIT i figured it out maybe
Idk. I view primeship as challenge plus. There's no actual Need to unlock it to play the game
Jkjkjk (but…..)
Yeah, the MZ/PZ system is too badly implemented to fit the prime requirements.
do you see the ants on the model? select them in object mode and then go into pose mode and move them around or rotate them
Not every animal in the wild becomes the apex, ya know?
u are pretty much forced to get prime
Its peak, but if I do a video it won't be about Megalaina sadly, not that much info on it lol. Also its pretty far in the upcoming roster.
That is not really anyone’s fault other than the community no? Instead of learning people chose to just datamine
With how much of a difference it makes, yes.
thank u boss
yuppers
Which….I have my opinions about datamining, but there’s nothing stopping someone from doing it. So oh well
Bro, there are researches made, but the info gathered so far is not enough. Also, look at the gameplay itself. Do you have much else to do except eating and travelling around? Yes, nesting. But that is solely based on finding a mate. ANd in official, it is terrible. The prime system doesnt even fit the official servers gameplay.
its going well
nesting does not require a mate
Looking good
Well yes and no
Yeah, but forcing u to sacrifice a mutation slot each time u want prime isnt a bit extreme and out of place?
nesting a certain way requires a mate
nesting the other does not
meaning nesting as a whole does not require nesting
nope its devs fault not us like how you gonna find prime req by yourself in this pvp/survival game trust me even in 1-2 years no one will say guys i found prime reqs and it works 100% no way we will follow this datamined quests until devs change their mind
if you need help austro ask away my huisband can help out!
Also, I think that if u are a female dino, then u also ahve to swap your gender first. So 2 mutation slots sacrificed.
idk what youre doing wrong if you have to nest every life to achieve prime lmao
If u wanted to nest solo u will need a mutation for it and I think u have to be female I believe but I'm not sure I don't do nest it's what I've heard
thank u for the offer but im choosing to learn blender the hard way 🫡
Which means no useful mutations untill 75% when u are 1st gen
I mean, if MZ’s and PZ’s didn’t contradict each other and herbivores actually followed MZ paths, then carnivores would have some neat gameplay to learn where they migrate and follow the herbivores
why would the female dinosaur have to swap gender
The problem is "figuring out" the requirements is to forgo your active migration and start arbitrarily going to different spots on the map. The mz is supposed to guide players to a single location but the elder system is telling you to ignore this guide
If you choose to be female and then choose the parthenogenisis mutation ypu can reproduce without a mate tho.
Sorry, I meant male.
i dont think anything about the migration zone screams "COME HERE AND STAY HERE UNTIL YOU ARE FULLY GROWN"
Then it is a one sided gameplay, since it facilitates a lot playing as female to get prime, and also makes male dinos weaker in general due to sacrificed mutation slots. Which would be again stupid.
I think elder status shouldn't touch your speed at all, be it buff or debuff, it's just the speed mutations all over again, speed is too important of a stat balance wise
How is it the developers fault for the community choosing to just datamine? I’m not saying people Shouldnt because you really can’t stop someone. But this is what the community chose to do instead of trying to naturally learn
this real kentro size?
i do have two questions though... how do i make the model keep its texture........ and how do i move parts of it.... 

according to our knowledge, maybe
Im just saying its a game about choices. How the game goes is about what you choose to do
You cant implement a system that changes dramatically how the growth works and not say anything about how it works. Imo they shouldnt have added it at all then.
walk into the migration zone, eat a bit, see if you can find some friends and then move on
patrol zones are specifically there to help you outside MZ and, while i dont like the current implementation, we know theyre getting expanded functionality such as nesting grounds and such so youre obviously not expected to spend all of your time in MZs to begin with
It kinda does though? Why would herbivores willingly abandon their primary food source?
so top right of the model screen there are little circles the second one from the right is how u see the color, then to move you need to click the ants and put the model in pose mode
the humblest rule 1
RULES
What are rules
what?
Partially because A: MZ’s & PZ’s have a ton of issues that weren’t addressed before elders.
And B: The elder requirements don’t entirely align with how you should play the game (at least on the herbivore front)
Because it punish sooo hard frails if you dont become prime so no one wants to waste their time on finding prime reqs by theirself. People follow that datamined quests and it works 75% 80%
I would rather see different requirements for every dino to get prime that would suit its actual gameplay, rather than being all foggy.
Let alone small carinvores. Herras have to play like omnis to get prime. The elder system it is not fitted for every dino at all.
I think it depends. What about species like Gali or Troodon who don’t have as much UMPH behind them. Their whole thing is being agile & fast. Something like a Rex? Yeah no reason it has to be as fast as it is
The elder stats should be more tuned to a playable rather than a few generic global buffs
maybe i'll watch a tutorial because im even MORE confused now 😭
Which for some, should build upon their kits rather than just stats
and speed should definitely not be a generic global buff, sure a few species can have it
@remote sandal
I’d love if ceratopsians took less damage from their frills as elders
It would make sense
I have my own gripes with the elder system don’t get me wrong. But I do wish the elder requirements were actually based on how your dinosaur is supposed to play. Carnivores it’s mostly fine, but herbivores have no business going to zones that have nothing to do with them
herrera would like to have a word with you >:(
well
there should probably be about 5-6 generic ones alongside 2 or 3 species/niche specific ones
I think prime requirements should fit every dinos gameplay, therefore different for every dino or for most of them at least. But a checklist that makes u run around the map like crazy and still not getting it is just stupid.
It isn’t stupid when that checklist encourages you to do the things everyone was avoiding before by growing inside of a bush, imo
I 100% agree. The punishment for not getting prime is way too much and you shouldn’t feel miserable for not getting prime. I want that to be looked at
But even if it was better. Do you think people wouldn’t datamine anyways? People are tunneled into this mindset that they have to know everything instantly and need it now. So they datamine. They did it with Rex, they do it with everything. Nothing would change
Also, making nesting a requirement is stupid enough as it is now. For smaller dinos they would have to nest exactly at 50% and even then they might mature too fast to grow the baby up untill the required age to get prime.
Ok….most carnivores it is fine
the elder system is so counter intuitive with herrera's gameplay it's crazy
Exactly.
Its just one of the ways to get prime. You do not need to nest to achieve it.
Same with maias, and trikes. Not all dinos were migrating all the time. Some were bound to their environment. Like, as a Dibble, if u go north, you wont find any food.
legitimately have not had fun with herrera this patch and it's been my favorite carnivore for a long time
I mean there’s other things to do than follow zones. Visiting sanctuary’s, getting a perfect diet (which imo should be about maintaining it rather than just once and done). Nesting etc. there’s more you can do. But yes I agree, it does feel very artificial
I just want to be able to travel the map as a herbi and find the occasional plant on my diet that’s not in a zone
Man, you have no idea how many times I have done them all except nesting and hatching myself and still didnt get prime.
this is why I hoped to fix aspects of the game before elders
Unfortunately we didn’t get that so oh well 
weight is known?
no
I dont mind waiting for prime dude, as long as I will get it at 75%. I just want 2 things. To know what to do to get it and the prime requirements to fit my dinos play style.
That's weird
I've gotten it every single time
I think the only circumstance where you don't get it is if the server crashed or rolled back and therefore you lost any prime progress made
It wasnt the case either. You know what I discovered? For dibbles the north plains and north jungles dont count.
At least imo, you should be encouraged to stick to your MZ’s because that’s where the carnivores are supposed to go to search you out. Otherwise we are sending carnivores to places that herbivores don’t even exist at (what we have rn sadly)
You can go off on your own every once in awhile, but staying away from your MZ’s for too long should have consequences, ideally when it comes to nutrition
This route works for me with 100% success rate: sp > wr > hl > delta
Its basically the west part of the map, but it works
Otherwise, what’s the point of a migration system if players are just gonna go wherever anyways
Dondi get off of your alt
Same, but I am sick of it. I tried to go the other way using vulnona (HL, NP, NJ and ending in EP MZ. And it almost never worked. Why? I dont know. But I am sick of having to take each time the same route to get prime. It gets very repetitive.
DONDI WOULD KNOW HOW TO USE BLENDER. I CANT FIGURE ANYTHING OUT
the elder system isnt really a thing when ur playing an apex (atleast in my experience) bc u travel regardless and just get it cause of that
You can always invert the loop and go anti clockwise 🤣
i didnt get it lol started from delta to water access then northen jungle then northen plains
Dondi would also know how many times I have cracked him for adding Rex
Requirements based on growth would be neat
elaborate
Yeah, but again, why doesnt it work? There isnt a real biome separation at the moment, so why keep players in one side of the map?
Like, have u seen how patroled the West side is compared to the East side of the map? It is insane!
idk what to say then other than thats entirely bugged 😭
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I don't know. But it's worth reporting in #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞
With that said, since 3 years now the west side has always been more populated than the right
The last time east was more populated was when east swamp used to be east plains (does anyone remember those days? Damn feels like a century ago)
A Rex should have to do more than a Cerato because it grows for longer
absolutely , what would u suggest
omg im actually figuring blender out
prime is too easy as is for any creature
try get prime on ptera and herra lmao
It is not too easy, it is too repetitive.
wanna see my 16 mut ptera just so i can make you eat that claim?
too easy.
For dinos that have an average or slow grouth rate, yes. For smaller dinos, it is a race.
Again, Herra has to play like an omni to get prime, which I find stupid.
its just an absolute chore and makes growing it no fun
Agree! it drains your energy a lot and the gameplay is no longer that enjoyable.
sorta but still not hard. growth slows enough once you hit 50% to make it to where you need to go
precisely
Thats why I suggested to have species-related prime unlock.
Yeah, but u have to go through the same areas over and over again. Like the East side of the map doesnt even exist.
lol i still remember i visited south plain double mz then west rail then went to swamp(did this and when reached swamp i was still 45%) then camped swamp until 75 bum prime (trike) is this what devs wants from us
ive said the same sorta thing in general feedback before -- species specific prime requirements
so liek ptera could have one specific one as idk (for examples sake) eat a clam
yes but thats what makes it too easy. i know where to go to get prime 100% of the time and can spawn or travel there easily on any dino.
Watch who you call yo homie 🙁
Prob just thresholds for certain requirements. Instead of getting perfect diet it should be maintaining it. (Just random numbers out here) Something like an Cerato should have to maintain a diet of like 150% or more like 20% of its growth or more in total time
Whereas a Rex would have to maintain a diet of like 200% or more for closer to 50% of its growth
The apexs/larger animals in general should be hard to get prime, but because you grow longer you have more time
Oh thanks discord
idk how good of an idea that is 😭
Real
So you suggest we shouldnt know what to do? That would be stupid. Make it harder? Maybe. But make it achievable through normal gameplay, not by running here and there and relying on 3rd party sources to know what to do.
the only "hard" thing is not going infertile and perf diet but even those ive never failed, not even for tiny things thanks to the sanc camping adults killing off juvi left and right
I do think there should be more incentive to actually maintain a diet rather than just getting perfect diet once and forgetting about it
The hard part should always be surviving untill 75%. Not having to rely on PvP or whatever unnecesary interactions that would make the prime requirements abandon then dino playstyle.
well yea but 200% diet for 50% of ur growth which is loads of it now doesnt seem entirely feasable
yes. or atleast family specific. Like ceratopsians have a common thing, sparring. Make XY amount sparring also be a requirement that can be fulfilled. It looks great, sounds good/you can hear it from distance, it helps with immersion aswell
honestly, reqs do need to be harder. being prime shouldnt be the meta and i dont think it was intended to be but the system is simply too easy as is when inactive zones count and sanctuaries are just death zones full of bodies
mhm
salty specifically states its random numbers for an example
Yeah that'd be great
It doesn’t help that being prime gives drastic stats vs non so it’s literally be prime or die
I will take Petits for example again. With 300-400 players online, surviving becomes already a real challenge. Every noise has to alert you and you gotta stay out of sight always if you play solo. It is no ones fault that the official servers feel empty even when full. What makes prime easy to get is the low number of players, not the tasks themselves (if they wouldnt be bugged).
alr bro mb 💔
survive the isle
Well because you can only do requirements to 75% it would be half of that (or a bit under idk). But point is more so that you have alot of time on your hand, use it well and actively work towards building your nutrition
You are an apex, therefor the prime requirements should be brutal because you have far more time
very true, make prime elder rarer, and frail elder less pathetic, imo
It’s also free, spawn go to a sanc, snag a bite quick cause u know ur gonna get jumped if you overstay and then go delta and scavenge fg easy I did that the entire time carno and got prime
Dinosaur
no i agree i just think that they should be slightly more leniant when it comes to diets and harsher in other areas
Fair
we will never be able to survive the isle.. its over
Survival is a long shot
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I wanna talk with hypno
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REM REM
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I have a lot of bug to tell him about
IM HIDING behind the stick, do u guys think herbivores will notice me or
no u are very hidden
Herbivores have sideways eyes so bad vision so they can’t see you (the superior predator)
Your skin might give you away if they look hard enough. Doesn't blend into the sand.
Still, surviving with 300-400 players is still a lot harder as a baby dino. Let alone having to sneak past sanctuary campers. Again, surviving is the core challenge to getting prime, alongside visiting the necesary locations (at the moment). What harder things would you want?
I hate sanctuary troodon hordes on there
real like how is it fun to sit and spawncamp stuff that cant even fight back
I hate the cerato and allo packs that camp the HL and SP sancts. Also carnos do that from what I noticed recently.
The sparring is completely bugged, I literally can't do anything
I hardly ever see adult allos even tho they’re constantly overpopulated on that server
Theyre bushcamping fence gates
Carnos im okay with, that's like their whole thing nowadays
Trike vs rex sparring?
I kinda run into them decetly often. Also, usually after I get prime, I find some mates and just purge the HL sanctuary to give the herbis some rest. >)
google doesnt have an answer to my blender question im so sad
Yes, I think the main problem is that it's very difficult to compete with my ping
the killer
and what happen to the grass XD
Am I the only one who thinks having sanctuaries get these big pathways in the middle of them that anything can walk through, that also connect major travel routes, is kinda counterproductive for a sanctuary
Like why is delta sanc also the main highway route
View distance issues.
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Agree. Highlands Sanct shouldnt have that road. That sanc should be completely closed like the others are.
the gateway ghoul
its in epic
Also hopefully soon the boundaries of sanctuaries become more consistent so big things can’t walk in as much
Yes thats the issue.
Why would u do that 🙁
Yeah, I get sick from seeing sub adults and adult dinos just wander around and killing whatever happens to cross that road.
A carinvore. I do the same.
i didn't want to but he crashed and when he came back he was floating on top of a random diabloceratops that two called him and then murdered him
can you imagine his confusion
i don't. have been victim to aggro herbis far too often
I always spare ppl who crash or spawn in right next to me
yes

John Caked
but as i said, it was funny
just don't ask why i tried to shove my ass up his face
I have been too many times a victim myself to any carnivore even when freshly spawned. I am not sparing any easy carnivore kill. At least I reduce the potential threats.
how about this camo
Also, I have friends who crashed and got mercilessly killed before they could reconnect. I will not show mercy either for that.
I was more curious about that yeah
im getting there slowly
Interesting, what u making?
Whats the skin code?
how long does it take to grow dilo
u must pay me 5 dollar
2 hour wait no i thought you said allo
Does anyone know what dino is getting added to evrima next?
im just posing an austro while i figure out blender for the first time, its not easy tho, cant get the actual texture LMAO
We all know but we wont tell you.
Austroraptor
tarbosaurus
NOOOO
which is it lastly/
spino
idek im just yapping
friendly reminder for everyone to go read my pseudo apex brawler tarbo niche feedback from a few years ago
ik u said Austroraptor but everyone saying diffrent things
Maybe it is just me, but I would rather see spino added than Bary.
austroraptor is the right answer
Did you model/texture it? Are you animating it or just making skins?
where does it say?
i opened a blender file of all the evrima models and copied and pasted it into a new blender thingy
Devblog 64 i think
where is that?
Devblogs are on the isle steam.
So have u tried linking the texture files
my idea for tarbo was to be a non-lethal bully class of sorts
debilitating and injuring similarly sized stuff for fun/sport and to steal kills from other predators
and also tarbo would have fracture damage and not rex
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this is the list, in this order

tawbosaurus
rex and allo are done
I would love to see Tarbosaurus too, but it would need a desert biome first.
Albertarbosayrus
Damn still no barry
No texture Rex
Wasnt albertosaurus rather small?
One day my tarbo feedback will become real
Wall incoming btw
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