ai-feedback-discussion

[sleek bone]

Idk if they have plans to make dino bodies vary in nutrition depending on their diet do they

Might be too complex

[violet oak]

Health regen should be based on protein

Maybe stam regen on lipids?

Carbs for just not starving

Dunno

[sleek bone]

Starches supply energy still irl but idk what theyll do in game

[violet oak]

Stamina isn't really energy, though... It's more anabolic brown muscle fat

Anyway a good idea @mossy hawk but yeah most people are pretty against free handouts in a survival horror game

[sleek bone]

Its kind of like the dead whales on beaches thing. It would look cool but we dont need handouts for dinos designed to kill for survival

[violet oak]

Rare feast events would be neat but they would need to be rare

And a big enough deal for people to all flock there and fight over it so it's still a risk/reward proposition

[sleek bone]

rare feast events can happen when a lucky pack of gigas takes down a brachi rather than the game just spawning 90,000-300,000lb of meat on a beach

[violet oak]

@blissful drum the issue you are having is very unlikely to be AI related, unless your server has been significantly modified

While there's around 220 AI at the cap (unchanged from U3) , most of them are "sleeping" and don't even have a model being rendered (it's culled when outside players immediate vicinity)

It sounds like you are having a different issue and it just looks like it's AI related. You can wipe and disable AI in the server admin panel, but it's never made a measurable difference to framerate outside of spectator mode for me

Happy to provide a server if you want to test to verify

There are areas of the map which everyone experiences poor framerates however that is a known issue around partly complete U4 assets

[mystic stratus]

I mentioned something similar for oviraptor and ptera, to be able to stalk the beaches for sea turtle eggs hatching and a giant feast to happen.

[sleek bone]

At the very least sea turtle hatchlings would only be valuable food to smalls. Free food for high consequence predators is a hard no

[mystic stratus]

yeah it would be similiar to compy food values

you'd need to eat a shit ton of them to get full, but sea turles spawn in large clusters

i dont really seeing a rex getting full on sea turtle babies

that would be like a human trying to get full off of ants in your back yard

[stuck wadi]

@bleak raptor Feeback isn't the place for questions, but to answer you, Dryo AI have tons of spawn locations. If you're only looking for them in highly-populated areas like Center though it'll seem like they're non-existent because other players get to them first. There's really only a few places that are 100% devoid of Dryo AI, like directly northeast of Swamp, but even then, there are some places past that field that have like 10 dryo spawns clustered together, usually 3-4 adults and then the rest in varying sizes, all the way down to "literally almost too small to see"

Having said that, I have no idea why some of the Dryo AI are so small they literally make a juvie Utah look like a rex chomping down on a compy

[young horizon]

AI is just there to be around its not a 100% chance you will even find them. So don’t rely on AI to keep you alive in the survival game you are playing. With this being said keep in mind bugs ect also in this early stages of the beta.

[rotund fox]

So when is trike coming?

[chrome sable]

way way way later

[sleek bone]

Maybe in 5 years or something lol

[carmine raft]

I saw somebody post a screenshot looking down at the Everyman map and seeing all the locations of the dryo ai. How do I get to that? Or access that..

[sleek bone]

You gotta be an admin

Thats how you access it

[violet oak]

@carmine raft Courtesy of @gilded apex https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/865341419282366504/878746027920879636/AI-locations-map.png

It matches my experiences looking for Dryo. North West beaches are usually a safe bet, but it's a long run to get there

[carmine raft]

Thanks!What is the difference between the icons and green spots on the map?

[violet oak]

Icons are just the Points of Interest around the map, part of the base image, green spots are the spawn locations

[naive belfry]

anyone knows if this map works?

[violet oak]

I've checked it and it looked right on my server. Its not guaranteed - the spawns are random - but doing several AI wipe cycles it matched up

The blob sizes aren't necessarily matched to AI quantities, though.

[rustic ledge]

for the love of god, please up the numbers of fish. searching for 45 minutes now with no fish in sight

no reason fish should be so scarce

[pastel blaze]

I don't think fish respawn unless the server restarts. Also the reason why there is no fish is because just 2 growing Deinosuchus can literally clear the whole river of fish due to the stupid overly high food requirements.

[restive owl]

@glad tangle Reminds me of Spore and Subnautica's border system, love it! I doubt Mosasaurs of any kind will be playable unless they add a huge inner sea of some kind, so this seems perfect.

Depending on the size of the player, maybe a smaller 'border animal' could spawn rather than a Mosasaur. Maybe a Dunkleosteus or some smaller mosasaur or fish. There's no reason for a Mosasaur to bother with hunting a baby Dryosaurus.

[glad tangle]

Yep! Thats what i was going for. Subnautica inspiration. The dunkleosteus would be a pretty cool thing to see in game

[violet oak]

It's a bug

[pale dove]

A mosasaurus in ocean would be a lot of work for basically adding nothing to gameplay but maybe in the distant future

[chrome sable]

too much effort

[woven loom]

@coarse quiver that ai is ptera ai nothing else nothing more

[restive nebula]

what?

im confused what did i say?

[woven loom]

oh f it was mashed taytee

[restive nebula]

Oblivion conversation

[coarse quiver]

Big F hahahahaa

[coarse quiver]

Ptera AI for sure

[woven loom]

yep

[sleek bone]

I KNEW the pred AI would go terminator mode through foliage lol would have been way more surprising if it actually behaved properly

[sleek bone]

Utah AI mass KFSing and foliage exploiting must be what the devs meant when they says they wanted AI to act like players

[warped lake]

This is why I dont do "update tests"

I think I'd rage at the game way too much XD

But from what I've seen, everyone is complaining about Utahs and devs should take notes, since even pre update 4 us AI feedback people were worried this might happen

[terse aspen]

I played on this stres test and i can say that there are positives and negatives but its great overall

positives:
-better grafics
-more detailed and imo better map
-beautifull nights and sunsets

• better scent
• diets are done pretty well altho theres way too much radish root
  -theres less lag overall when u just wandering solo or with a small pack but when i fouth teno ai with my pack the whole serwer just lagged so much that u were unable to mive (and also dryo has a bit of 0,2 n so u cant kill anything xd)
• more ai like animals utah and teno

negatives:
-ai is kinda broken teno s ultra fast nocks you out without animations (atleast i had that), boars are super agresive and utah just kinda screams

• the placement of the diets is realy weird and theres too much radish root everywhere
• u can have 10% of red and 0 % of green and blue and you still have a good diet
• and there are still the usual bugs like not being able to eat or drink, nor beaing able to jump and so on

Overall i think this is a upadate very well done, with the only things to change maybe more variety of the plants and fixing problems with the ai.
Also can u please add a colorblind settings beacuse i cant see a difrence with the green and yellow food

[sleek bone]

Youve put that in multiple channels bro

[dawn crest]

It is something to consider though. Lots of people have color blindness and there are a lot of different types of color blindness. Most people aren't gonna think about it though, because its not something they have to deal with so it gets passed over in favor of other issues. If they do offer a color blind mode it will have to encompass the whole spectrum of color blindness so it is likely something that wont be covered until they finalize the particles for the effects. But mentioning it so it stays known or so it can be added to the list of things to work on is not a bad thing.

[sleek bone]

Im colourblind and can only recognize certain shades of red/pink so the particles in particular are an absolute bitch for me to deal with lmao. I think simple UI colour wheel customization can help a lot with that like it doesnt sound hard to implement

[dawn crest]

Realistically it shouldn’t be that hard, but it would need to be implemented into the physical game as well. That’s something you do all at once rather then in pieces. Since a lot of stuff is still being worked on, visuals included, we just have to wait to see if they bring up the option later down the line or not.

Worst thing to happen is that we make a petition for it to be implemented

[stuck wadi]

I don't really think anyone has a problem with colorblindness being brought up and its hardly a subject people in the discussion section and the devs aren't aware of. Pretty sure the issue is them spamming every channel with the same exact post lol

[sleek bone]

yeah they put the feedback in channels it doesnt belong in as well which is weird

[serene peak]

i can't find the servers

what's the problem?

who knows?

in testing evrima

[hot fiber]

I kinda have to say The AI seem a bit op I can't run from them its like they have wall hack and just follow me until i am dead

[gusty zealot]

True I was killed by Utah AI even though I ran through forests, trees, tall grass, swam back and forward, all until my stamina was drained so of course I was dead. The animation of the Utah was awful when running behind me though, it seemed like the head was moving back and forth or something like that. The movement as it ran didn’t look realistic either. So ai is something that can be worked on.

[vital burrow]

genuinely tired of this version of the game purely from the fact that I keep dying at half growth because I cannot find the nutrients I need and I keep getting heat seeked by random utah AI

[jolly dagger]

can somebody confirm if there is more fish AI now? or pertas are still starving?

[vital burrow]

last time i played the regular branch, I couldn't find any fish ripples

[brave magnet]

I hate all that AI it makes it so hard to play

[violet oak]

I don't think anyone has spoken in favour of the utah/teno AI

The boars are great though haha

[stuck wadi]

I haven't experienced the boars yet except one standing over a dead Dryo on the other side of a river

Didn't seem to aggro on me though

[violet oak]

If you bit them they will chase you to the ends of the earth

But they are slow so you sort of forget about them

Until you are sitting there happily munching on a root and you hear patter patter patter patter

[stuck wadi]

lmao

[stuck wadi]

confirmation that there are in fact AI crabs... that are in the jungle and not the beaches for some reason

[violet oak]

🦀 C R A B 🦀

[vital burrow]

time for crab

[glad tangle]

I found a bunch of crabs on the north beach

[glad tangle]

What is happening with these fish ?

[silver raven]

Doing what fish have always done in The Isle

[glad tangle]

lol, well thats not acceptable cmon now 😛

for now sure but not in the finished product

hope they find a way to fix it

[grand eagle]

very hard to find the blue

[bleak tundra]

@twilit rapids they are flying XDD

[bleak tundra]

See

[red furnace]

Anywhere no fishes ai …. Nothing

[next pond]

I have a few suggestions concerning updated AI models. Wild Pigs, Wild Chickens and Deer are great, as all have been introduced to tropical islands at some point. For the pigs, I would suggest the various black/brown/tan/white splotched feral pigs of the Southeastern US and Pacific Islands. For the deer, the dark grey whitetail deer of the South American jungle seems to fit best. As for the chickens, the typical Pacific Island feral chickens (or Red Junglefowl, they are identical) is visually interesting and fits best. I also have a suggestion for flying AI: Flying Foxes. They are large enough to be substantial food, are not carnivorous, and live in big groups. Herreras could climb to catch them while they are sleeping, while Pterosaurs could snatch them out of the sky in the morning and evening.

[pseudo turtle]

deer lived in dinosaur age??

[silver raven]

No, why the question ? You're aware The Isle takes place in modern times, right ?

[pseudo turtle]

offcorse

dog added when?

[sleek bone]

…

[glad tangle]

When will we get dinosaur-shaped chicken nuggets added?

[severe crown]

the isle isnt set in the dino times xD we're in the modern age

[last dust]

'Dino times'
Great term lol

[tender furnace]

The modern day animals are fed to dinos by humans. This is why we find them scattered around. They don't normally exist on the island.

[dim narwhal]

i think it would be cooler to have dinos or sum insted of mammals

[pseudo turtle]

so humans have another purpose than to just survive?

offcorse power in the place and all that, but why help the dinos

[tender furnace]

Most likely. They wouldn't be on that island for no reason. Plus the spawned dinos have a connection to the humans. A device inside them I would assume. The humans made the dinos and put them on that island. It's a type of experiment

Check #isle-lore-theories for more

[valid bloom]

I’ve seen a Dev talk about how dinosaurs NOT HATCHED from an egg will likely have some device in them. Meaning that when a player spawns into the game without hatching from someone’s egg, they will likely be able to be tracked to some extent perhaps.. sounds interesting!

[drowsy stratus]

Just saw someones idea with having monkey ai's. Would be cool to have monkeys and gorillas AI climbing and swinging around in the jungle trees. Would be a nice prey for Herra and other carnis. Maybe if a human is in danger. depending what they are in danger from. They can sometimes come and help the humans out.

[sleek bone]

Why would monkeys randomly help humans lmao also gorillas would be fodder

[uncut vector]

Monkeys could scream if they saw a carnivore roaming around, which could be useful for humans or herbivores, as they would know to look out
Apparently that's a thing that happens irl aswell
https://youtu.be/6WmeHfbWS1w?t=86

[frigid spire]

I don't know if it's already the case, but I belive AI should rest, go to eat (maybe withouth depleting the food source so that they don't take food from the players) and aproach the river to drink sometimes, mostly because of deino so that it can also hunt AI withouth having to venture out of water when it's vulnerable and so the AI it's not just running around aimlessly all the time, maybe it could be set to follow a "migratory" path with some slight variation between it's food sources and so it would be both easier to find and more realistic as well.

[cyan stirrup]

question: do ai tenotos attack baby stegos?

[hardy sequoia]

question: where's all the fish???? i played for hours yesterday and today and found none

[vale crow]

From what I’ve seen said before there’s a bug with their respawn so they only come back ever 4 hours, after the servers reset. Idk if a dev has confirmed this but it appears to be accurate since before a reset I can never find any but immediately after one I find them everywhere.

[violet oak]

Ya, well known bug. Would be nice if these known bugs were officially acknowledged so there wasn't so many people having to wonder and work it out for themselves

[hardy sequoia]

oh alright

[drowsy stratus]

@idle hill Utah and Teno ai's has come to stay in the game. Never died to one, even though i have been chased 4-5 times by a Utah. They are not fully done yet tho.
Cant wait for T-rex ai's to be added. They can track you for a great distance 😊

[idle hill]

Won't that be fun :)

[drowsy stratus]

Yes it will

[warped lake]

Yeah, it will, because AI can learn if coded right. Keep in mind this is still a beta of the new AI, I wouldnt ditch AI if Amarok worked hard to get them added in first. AI coding isnt as simple as just adding a model or an animation in. It takes time since AI needs certain conditions met for it to act a certain way.

[violet oak]

@astral trail agreed. Lipids (from muscles and outer layers) , Protein (from muscles), calcium/iron (from bones/marrow) and Vitamins/salts/etc (from organs) would be a good nutrient breakdown for carnivores

Stuff like Vitamin A is an important nutrient that is only stored in the liver and most carnivores need to get from their diet

Hence why cats will disembowel a mouse and only eat bits and pieces

Though it probably belongs in #general-feedback not #ai-feedback

[astral trail]

I wholeheartedly agree, as I intended to share it there but must've been in the wrong channel lol

[violet oak]

I think it could be fleshed out a bit more (pardon the pun) with details of how it would be implemented it game - like if you only need nutrients from organs, how does the game let you eat those first? Animations? When only the organs are missing, how is that displayed?

[idle hill]

I'm aware.

[arctic crest]

Do the Utahs still chase u to the end of the earth?

[sly mason]

found 2 baged Utah perma eating lmao xD

[fossil bronze]

UHHHH is this a compy?

[warped lake]

Possibly yes

[next pond]

I would like to adjust my previous statement regarding future deer AI: although South American Whitetail are more at home in a jungle, the Fallow Deer can survive in almost any environment, is larger, is more boldly visible, and generally looks cooler.

[plucky nova]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-waynes-world-mike-myers-الإبهام-لأعلى-gif-3916546

[sleek bone]

AI shouldnt spawn in wounded or sick wtf why do people want free handouts carni diets are already so lenient in QA lmao

[desert cargo]

@fossil bronze I found two myself today 🙂

[fossil bronze]

Nice 😃

[grand eagle]

It would be nice to try Deino and Ptera

[warped lake]

@plush swallow if you dont want AI, go play Beasts Of Bermuda

[desert valve]

...is there teno ai now? Just got killed by a teno (as a juvie stego), and he was behaving... weird. Ran in straight lines, ran towards me as soon as he could see me, plus he got stuck on me. And he has been standing on my body for the past ten to fifteen minutes. It's just weird to me xD

to answer my own question. yes. there is xD

[plush swallow]

@indigo bramble It's pretty easy to distinguish, if they do anything halfway intelligent at all instead of walking in circles, it's a player.

[indigo bramble]

Oh ok

[sly narwhal]

i finally could see a gout but it run to the sea XD

[safe hull]

@smoky thunder Not sure if i agree that all AI is a free kill tbh, it just needs more improovement, tak dryo for example

[warped lake]

Teno and Utah are currently really hard to catch according to the community and most players get their butt demolished by them. I know a lot of people complained how the Utah is a heat seeking missile at launch

[safe hull]

Utah and teno from my experince was actually really well implemented. Utahs chase you but if you run out of its line of sight it will check on your last seen position and then forget about you

Teno can be a bit buggy but i allmost got my ass kicked by one as a carno by beeing to careless

[warped lake]

I'm gonna play the new update once it gets released fully. I don't want to frustrate myself with bugs and what not so I'm just observing what the community has to say and I take mental notes

[hybrid elk]

@sick walrus what are the ai hotspots ?

[sick walrus]

places where a lot of ai spawn, like in open fields

[hybrid elk]

ah ok i thought you knew exactly cause i am having a hard time finding them

[sick walrus]

me too haha, thats why i put in the suggestion in the first place XD

[weary crypt]

No please. No spoonfeeding players ai

[chrome sable]

i mean if they can fight back efficiently

[valid bloom]

Yeah, when the boar is fully completed I’m sure it will be aggressive enough to make a young raptor or carno think before they try to take it on.

[gloomy arch]

@light cargo You could lure with meat AI. With hard to get vegies. Cool mechanic and yet again it would take time to implement. None the less, awesome idea there.

[cedar merlin]

yoooo amarok just had a vid with some AI was waaay cool. You can hide from utahs, ai ran away, and even tried to hide. Smart AI looks really good.

dude the ai sniffs and looks for you

[warped lake]

AI seems to be going well

[sleek bone]

@copper hazel what does that even mean lmao

[copper hazel]

nvm xD

[whole creek]

why is there no boar or goat AI in the US server? played for 2 days and ive never seen any >->

[slow scroll]

They are very hard to find because there is less ai then the regular version

[desert valve]

Where does ai spawn? And how? I never find any, i just die of starvation. Is it like legacy where ai spawns behind you?

[warped lake]

No man, in Evrima AI spawns randomly around the map

[desert valve]

thanks, thats what i was guessing xD. I have been running around in zigzags, too, i just got unlucky finding any i guess.

[warped lake]

You're not the only one XD before mechanic test there was only Dryo AI with fish, it was impossible not to go pvp because of how hard AI was to find

[raven quiver]

I've been having a tough time finding AI too

[cedar merlin]

best to play herbi right now unless you want to pvp to eat. AI spawns have been rough for a bit.

[sleek bone]

Land ai is plentiful enough for active servers, carnis should be encouraged to take risks

Which isnt the case for carno in qa atm but still

[trim gust]

Wait should they? I thought pretty much all carnivores irl purposefully focused on risk reduction as to maintain their physical well-being, as if they were left in a compromised state after a hunt that basically means death

[sleek bone]

Carnivores irl also dont respawn and grow in a couple hours

Thats why they avoid risk

They actually have something to lose

If carnis in game dont have to take risks and be challenging then servers will easily continue to be 90% carni

[cedar merlin]

Or people just wont play.

food should not be just given, but it has to be available.

[sleek bone]

I never said it shouldnt be available, and carnivores will always remain the majority in some measure whether they are a challenge or not

But if its just shite functioning ai covering the map that is helpless against multiple targets then carni is as easy as herbi

[stuck wadi]

Its a bad idea to make statements like this where I can see and give me ideas 🤔 Good thing I'm not an Isle dev 😂

Imagine if losing your big adult carni just locked you out of playing that species for a time

[sleek bone]

There are situations of pure bad luck where that would be pretty unfair lol

[stuck wadi]

Like I said, good thing I'm not an Isle dev 😛

[sleek bone]

I could see it as an unofficial server setting honestly, species respawn timers. Along with a lot of other varying server options

Something that can be enabled or not

[stuck wadi]

🤔

[cedar merlin]

this sucks so bad having players as the only source of food for carni

lots o starving to death

only hope is to play carno and try to bully animals smaller than you

[sleek bone]

Good thing players arent the only source because ai is there whether youve been unlucky or not

[cedar merlin]

i saw a fish and one pig after days of playing

my bad 2 pigs

[cedar merlin]

starve to death 5 times now as carno and utah even went to one of the known spawn spots. There just is no life in the game cant even test the diet mechanic.

[stuck wadi]

I've literally survived on a full stomach multiple times as Carno on mostly AI. Granted it was dino AI, not animal AI. Its really not that difficult to keep from starving though, you just have to move around, listen for AI calls, and know a few common spots where AI pop up that players don't really go to so you're not competing constantly for food

[pure spindle]

are you guys talking about the QA branch or the public branch cause i havent seen any AI on the QA branch

[pastel blaze]

I think one of the problems of AI on QA branch is that they hardly move. So its harder to spot them.

[stuck wadi]

I've found tons of dino AI on QA. Not so much animal AI, but I have found boar on rare occasions. Dryo, Utah, and Teno AI really aren't that rare though, you just have to know where and how to look

[sleek bone]

lol was just looking for fish in live branch and there was absolutely none on the whole server except in one river it seemed every fish node was crammed in a section, i can see why people get starved now

for fish at least

[stuck wadi]

Yeah on Live the fish AI are completely borked and half the time you have fish spawn visuals with no fish

[sleek bone]

All the ripples worked for me but istg they were all stuffed in one spot lmao crazy

[karmic frigate]

I also think it'd be nice if the ripples glowed when scenting. Sometimes so hard to see them against the reflections on the water as ptera and I think it'd be justified as a heightened sensitivity for pteras

[cedar merlin]

I been on QA branch for hours as herbi and carni only seen 2 ai of any type

like 20+ hours in game 2 ai...

all around the map

[livid imp]

I played for a good few hours, saw 1 crab, and a small creature that I think was a dryo, couldnt see it over the grass, but it got away, dont even know if it was ai or not

[pure spindle]

yeah i ended up witnessing them I was just in the wrong places looking and listening for the wrong things

[coral wasp]

Frogs spawn by the damn we caught some today over there

[frail zealot]

is deino the ptera counter supposevly? and is there ai pteras or deionos?

[sleek bone]

Deino isnt the ptera counter, if anything utah is best at killing pteras aside from the laggy or inexperienced ones who dunk themselves while fishing

[sleek bone]

Actually not having a bad day with fish on live today

[hollow forge]

is pachy supposed to be a counter to carno?

[wild night]

nah?

[hollow forge]

nah its facture, one fracture and ur basically dead

[wild night]

hmm here... 2 pachys needed to take one down

[hollow forge]

to me right now it seems like there a little too op

[wild night]

if u can handle the pachy well yessh

but carno is op as well and it wasnt changed

till now ig?

[keen spade]

i baited a ai carno as deino and made it swim for 3 min still had stam i lunged him as juvie and it worked lookex strange but funny anyway. i grabbed him for more then half of my stam he still had alot of stam left and could run in water and still alt bite for 5´min. i ended dying xD

[chrome sable]

deino weight rn is messed

[median storm]

Do crabs and turtles actually exist or am I just stupid

I haven’t found one anywhere yet

[chrome sable]

They do

pretty easy to find

[median storm]

Yeah I just found a turtle in coastal plains but I would’ve expected it to be closer to the beach lol

[cedar merlin]

been playing for a few hours have not found any ai covering the map with a ptera... well correction i have seen a few fish...

[hollow shard]

ai are easier to find as anything on the ground.

[cedar merlin]

yeah i have tried as dryo, stego, utah, and carno as well

[sonic notch]

Did some AI testing today looking for the mythical Sea turtle. Lat -615,170 Long - 422,257 all the way to Lat 781,267 Long - 170,057 3 times today no AI animals or ai dino's I also did 2 runs by the unfinished Port area and same results. AI are in the game but they are still to rare especially for this diet system. The real issue is they are not where they are supposed to be. I found that the only AI animal is the boar and dryo when they are not frozen stiff under a thick bush. Even then they are extremely hard to come by. This just leaves the play space lonely and boring overall.

[cedar merlin]

Precisely. Understand its QA, understand its BETA, understood game is still in early development, but would be nice to have a playable game.

[still widget]

why dont you guys add more ai to the game every one wants it in the ai feedback so.

[normal fiber]

@crisp fog be difficult to program wouldnt it?

[normal fiber]

@oblique mist bite the coconut

[oblique mist]

I did? Nothing I did worked, nor were there any indicators that something was happening. Right clicking did weird spasmy headbutts like it wanted to smash, but couldn't, and left clicking didn't seem to have any effect after 5 attempts

[normal fiber]

not sure then, i know some people are able to destroy the coconuts

[fresh locust]

sorry, late, but you have to right click the coconuts. It'll do like a glitched ram animation with no sound and break a coconut in half. THEN you can eat it. If that didnt wor, might just be a bug.

[oblique mist]

good to know. do you have to hit it only once? i tried each attack multiple times, but nothing happened. tried on a couple other 'nuts, but the relentless boar kept me from ever being able to stop for long periods of time

[stuck wadi]

If its bugged like it was for the whole server I was on, if you right click to ram but it just kinda starts the animation and then stops without cracking the coconut, its bugged and you can't eat it. At all. Was my experience and my servers' experience last night

[chrome sable]

@mental adder Im confused how you lost that fight considering it doesnt ram, it has a biteforce speed limit (and it may have reduced damage dont quote me)

[mental adder]

I was 90% grown and crashed in the middle of the fight

I couldn't escape it

the ai are all either: nonexistent, inescapable, or just stand there

[sleek bone]

The carnivore and boar ai are like heat seeking missiles rn

They dont seem to have a stam limit and they also seem to swim faster for some reason

[warped lake]

Putting a limit on their sprint should do the trick, allowing the AI to spring for a max of 30 seconds or so without stopping.
That way the AI is still dangerous, but you have to keep yourself on your toes and manage your stamina incase you run into an AI.

[sleek bone]

It should just have resources to deplete (stam, food, water, oxygen) like players do

[delicate axle]

the main problem there being that Unreal Engine 4 apparently doesn't support that for AI. word of mouth admittedly, but you'd think that it would be an easy problem to solve if it wasn't a UE4 thing.

[orchid edge]

AI should seriously get an increase on spawn rate. I barely run into any and when I do I'm a herbi

[blissful drum]

^^^ same here

[hollow birch]

Found my first seaturtle can u spot it 😂

[orchid edge]

No

[cedar merlin]

spawned in as utah ran the map looking for food only found what others had killed (mostly Deino). Got two bites from a dead patchy (ran off by carno) then starved to death. Sure my next run i just wont see anything and will starve to death again.

[hollow birch]

its on top of the palm in the right corner its has red on its shell.

[orchid edge]

This is also a common issue I have, I think they should increase the spawn rate of specifically small animals like Boars, Chickens, Deer, etc. Because starvation is starting to become common

[cedar merlin]

@orchid edge agreed. This has been a thing for a long while. I can only remember one time in evrima where ai was sufficient for carni. Ptera, Deino, and kinda carno are viable. Though Carno only because you are bigger than most things and can eat everyone else who is starving to death. Not sure how big fish spawns are.

[lyric wigeon]

the problem is right now as im aware the Ai spawn is bugged and also scales with the player on the server
so after a restart theyr are a lot of Ai when theyr killed they dont really spawn back or just randome
and if 100 players are on the server almost no ai spawns

the devs could have done it like on the Map should be like 500 crabs so when 100 get killed 100 will respawn so that it keeps always the meant population up

[cedar merlin]

i have never heard that ai scales and in the past devs have kinda given the impression that they were random spawns not linked to players in any way, though i have read that player presence triggers a spawn site to start spawning, but dont think that was from an official source. What i have from official sources is that there are spawn sites and the creatures just spawn to match the ai pop number. They used to just run into the mountains or stay on the edges of the map (bug), so bugs have been a thing impacting ai. Just sucks for land based carni, as it is almost unplayable.

[sleek bone]

Didnt tenonto damage get nerfed to shit? And somebody is still calling it op

These people would probably be happy if ai just spawned as free food corpses

[silver raven]

Well one could argue than being able to run full-speed indefinitely even underwater and being able to turn at any angle instantly, like teleporting, can be a kinda unfair advantage
Although it doesn't even compensate for current AI's stupidity

[pastel owl]

I had a AI Utah chase me (Ptera) across the map, I was searching for Rabbits and Hypsi and the Utah followed me for about 15-20minutes running at full speed the entire time while I flew and had to land to regain stamina. Once I did kill a rabbit the Utah guarded the body and never ate.

[cedar merlin]

yeah at this point even stupid ai is preferred over none. Utah is pretty much unplayable and carno only if you bully creatures smaller than you. Even Carno can get pretty unplayable if no food sources present themselves.

[hollow crown]

If I may ask, how does AI spawning work?

Are there specific areas? Does the game detect players starving and spawn them?

[chrome sable]

More players = Less Dino Ai+More animal AI

Less players is vice versa

and they spawn in the biomes specified in diets

[cold bough]

https://tenor.com/view/wat-wut-what-lolwut-gif-4850067

[vapid musk]

they dont swim for me they just become jesus and walk across the water

[chrome abyss]

what dis? 🧐

I have seen nothing about this being added. its just standing there

[sleek bone]

looks like a compy

[chrome sable]

Compy

[true hawk]

Ya that is definitely a compy

[chrome abyss]

I didn't see them announcing that it was being added to the QA branch.

[sleek kestrel]

bc theyve been around a while

[valid bloom]

Comply have been around, they are just not working properly and don’t usually move. I’ve seen them working in groups scavenging on Dev videos but I think they sit there and do nothing in QA.

[violet thistle]

Hi there, not sure where my last post went.

I've been wondering center prairies on AU1 for over an hour and seen ZERO AI

I've died twice as an infant carno from starvation

I came across 1 baby paxky and killed it

Other than that I came across 15 packy being protected by an adult carno

A full grown stego, and full grown Tenento

In about 1.3 hours scouring the prairies I saw ZERO AI....

Not sure how this is classified as a "survival game" when there is ZERO chance of survival...it's left up to chance, not survival skill

Again AU1 spawned in the NE and ran south without seeing/hearing any AI or foot steps until I died of starvation....

If AI only spawn on server reset...that's stupid

A fresh server only has AI in the "hot spots" for about 30min...then what?

[lean oasis]

Maybe because it is a Australian server? Almost no one plays there. If you expect to feed from small animal ai you ain't gonna have a good time. Go in a populated server kill a baby pachy, eat it until full food with food saving method, go hide in a bush, wait 20 minutes and you gonna be around 15%, kill more baby pachys in centar trying to go to the lake, go sit in a bush again and repeat until you are 50%. Then you go to the swamp with the wall and face tank a teno ai(pretty easy to find). Because now you are 50% and you ain't gonna find stegos or dryos it will take about 2 and a half more hours to grow to full adult. Good luck

[placid trail]

Why is stego so powerful?

[chrome sable]

Cause it was added too early

[hardy ocean]

Did something change about the way fish spawn in the last 2-3 months? Because I keep starving as a Pteranodon....

[sleek bone]

Fish doesn’t seem to respawn once its used up. I can always find it after server resets but once its gone its gone, best to head to south and hunt dryos or gamble on finding bodies at active spots as ptera

[hardy ocean]

This game....urghghh

[cloud hatch]

fish have also been super glitchy. as a deino if you can't swallow them whole it's a pain to eat them without just grabbing chunks

[light valley]

I found a workaround where when you kill a fish, just go to the surface on the spot where the fish was killed. You can then eat it from there. No matter if it's 20cm below you or 3 meters

[cloud hatch]

i'll have to try that

[light valley]

Yeah, as soon as the servers are back up and running 🙂

[cloud hatch]

ha right, my deino is on Na 1 x.x

[next pond]

I have an idea, but I don't really know whether it's amazing or terrible. Carnivore AI is widely hated, but what about... Coyotes. Small carnivores, not as fast as most dinosaurs, but better able to see and run away from players. It would only try to eat really small things, like rabbits, chickens and hatchling/fresh-spawn dinosaurs. If not Coyotes exactly, maybe some sort of Jackal.

[chrome sable]

Not Utah AI when it was initially released

it had good tracking and sound detection

and knew when to stop chasing to keep players engaged and not enraged

but then it turned into the beta-male carno AI

[desert cloud]

Dryo was standing still not moving in the southeast section. When I pounced on the Dryo with my raptor I would shift to the side where the Dryo was no longer located.

[weak stag]

Wait, just to make sure, carno AI are taken out at the moment, right?

[chrome sable]

Yeah

while they work out

kinks...

[silver raven]

This sounds like a poem
A very sad one

[sleek bone]

exerpt of the starving utah

[cedar merlin]

There should be herds of ai that a player could join. Many want ai as a side piece, but i should be able to join an ai dryo herd even if players dont want to play dryo. There was talk of battling for herd Alpha and such. Ai should be a core item for this game not a side piece. People calling for this to be a pure pvp game do not know what they are asking for. Think the battle grounds in legacy I am sure those will rise again but that is a poor model for an immersive game. Ai serves for food and a group to join.

[rare wyvern]

If this is just for QA, I have nothing to say. But if it's for Evrima, then where have the shoal fish gone from The Delta River and the Swamp? I've not seen a single shoal fish sign at the swamp for months. Go back a year or so, and it was livable as a Petra. You could go, fish, bring fish back. Now you go to the swamp just to starve.

[silver raven]

@dire bison Why the fuck would you replace boars with sharks ? If you're trolling, you should probably delete that post.

[dire bison]

If the boar can dive and burst his speed up to 70 kph to oneshot u as a peaceful juvi utah its actually a great white no ?

[silver raven]

So you're suggesting a reverse fix to a bug

[dire bison]

yh why not i mean, video game is transverse

[silver raven]

But that's just supid

[dire bison]

lol put some respek i dont know you

[silver raven]

I don't know you either, but the idea is stupid. I'm trying to be serious here, and your suggestion is about changing an actual creature from the game for something that makes no sense gameplay nor immersion-wise in order to hide a bug instead of just fixing it

[dire bison]

A better suggestion is pakicetus ai (not trolling)

shark is a bit bad i agree

[silver raven]

(Which wouldn't need a suggestion anyway, since fixing bugs is already part of the devs job)
If anything, you should write a bug report to make sure they're aware of it and work actively on it

[dire bison]

Dont tell me what i should do like u were my dad bro i'm grown man

[silver raven]

Pakicetus wouldn't make much sense either

[dire bison]

i mean if this ai can swim and dive it could :p

but ok i get it, better integrate some chicken rabits and boars

[silver raven]

Chickens rabbits and boars are here so that people realize the game is set in the modern times
Pakicetus would do the opposite of that
The game is about dinosaurs and humans, not about extinct mammals

[dire bison]

Is it prohibited to add exogenous ideas to this game ? I mean Ai rn is so messed up how could you even defend it? Just open your mind bro, the game is about what you make with it as devs but as players aswell.

so don't look down on people that are actually trying to enrich games lore

[silver raven]

You're trying to enrich game lore by suggesting to put white sharks in jungles ?

[dire bison]

Don't take everything at face value plz.. I suggest that Ai could be ancients species not just mammals. Maybe insects in forests, molluscs and fishes in ocean, flying squirrel in trees, and on and on .... There is so much possiblities rn that it makes this Ai concept, included in this early version of the game ,poor asf. They are not even coherent with modern animals ai, they put ancient species for fish and not for other terrestrials lmao. Is pteranodon a dinosaur too ?

[silver raven]

I'm pretty sure all fish species are modern ones. And that'd still make little sense to replace all modern AI by ancient species. Or I don't see the interest, at least.
As for pteranodon... archosaurs, if you prefer. The kind of things that appear in Jurassic Park.

[dire bison]

oh man

humanity deserve a descent ancient species work of art

none of this jp shit

the isle maybe be heading towards this directions

[plucky surge]

wow so JP...

[dire bison]

?

[plucky surge]

you said this game should be ancient species work of art, right? aka very acurate?

[dire bison]

yes

[silver raven]

There's something called Saurian out there, you should check it out

If you didn't want a Jurassic Park remake, then you bought the wrong game

[plucky surge]

well i doubt we got much of that ever, excluding all the jp ripoffs, with strains, humans coexsiting with dinos, a lot of bad designs

venom dinos, pach hunting

[plucky surge]

Saurian moment

[dire bison]

so much shades between saurian type of game and jp ripoffs type of game lmao

[plucky surge]

ehh, bob is in its own little world and pot is the same as Isle design wise

[dire bison]

hmmm no

[plucky surge]

sarcho, metri... hmmm?

[dire bison]

jp isnt the isle i disagree, not even design wise

lmao

[silver raven]

Isn't PoT trying to be accurate ?
...
Wait what kind of style is PoT supposed to have ?

[plucky surge]

did you look at sarcho and metri?, bc i did and it ruined them 2 for me

[silver raven]

The Isle is a love letter to Jurassic Park. Dondi is redoing JP with his own style, and his own ambience, as a videogame instead of a movie. That's basically what The Isle is.

[plucky surge]

like Isle some of its designs are good and others, not so good

PoT has the same problem, but to a less extent, there are more of the good kind thna bad ones

[silver raven]

Some designs are discutable, but understandable. I hate Utahraptors design, but its literal point is to look like the Jurassic Park raptor, and I can't really blame someone for making references to the best dinosaur movie of all times.

[dire bison]

i don't agree, the isle be muche more accurate than jp by far

[silver raven]

JP was super accurate to scientific standards when it came out

[plucky surge]

i never said it wasnt, i was more comparing isle and pot, sorry if i didnt make that clear

[dire bison]

LMAO Bubulblu you're a pimp

[fierce yoke]

^ does this guy have a point other than insults?

[silver raven]

What the hell are you on about now ?

[plucky surge]

well mostly bc they had way less dinos compared to later movies, less dinos to shrink wrap

[dire bison]

wow chill boys i be super nice with u

i just dont agree

[silver raven]

You don't agree in a rather agressive way

[dire bison]

JP was never accurate lol its a blockbuster

like, are u guys American ?

[plucky surge]

if it wasnt acurate at all then we would've had aliens not smth that at least resembles dinos

it was accuarte, just not much

[silver raven]

What JP did was rename deinonychus to velocitaptor because it sounded better (and at the time we thought deino was much bigger) and slightly enlarge rex, as well as enlarge its skull to give it a more menacing look

[dire bison]

the only thing with jp is the money that they put in modelization for dinosaurs to entertain you

[plucky surge]

true around that time deynonichus was thought to be much larger right?

[silver raven]

Yep, It was thought to be human height

And soon after Utah was discovered

[plucky surge]

ye i remember that, and now both are tiny

curious how they'll make pyroraptor

but ig they'll make it giant too

[dire bison]

you guys american ?

just to know, its not mean

[silver raven]

You can hate Jurassic Park as much as you like, but you can't deny the fact it was a super cool move to make. At the time nobody was interested into dinosaurs and a lot of people still believed rexes walked upright. They managed to make a accurate rex into a scary movie monster as well a somehing that looked like a real animal.
Jurassic World is another story though.

[silver raven]

No

[plucky surge]

JW had a chance to be great, but failed

the movie not the trilogy

[dire bison]

interest with dinosaur does not only come out with jp

[plucky surge]

JP made dinosaurs cool, that cant be disputed

at a mass market level

[silver raven]

In popular Culture ? JP did everything for dinosaurs.

[dire bison]

okok np

[cedar merlin]

This is an AI feedback discussion channel...

There is an off topic discussion channel that would be more appropriate

[silver raven]

Welp, the conversation kinda went offtopic. But it was originally related to AI.

[sleek bone]

Legacy ai system

[west token]

@honest iris That would make it so easy for carnivores to grow when they are supposed to be the harder faction. You really want legacy ai? Were you actually ok with apexes being around every corner?

[honest iris]

That's a good point.

I now see how that would be a problem.

[sleek bone]

No more dino doordash

[rich aspen]

Dino doordash

[stuck wadi]

AI isn't even that hard to find or hunt, unless you're a fresh spawn utah trying to take down a teno AI or something

[livid imp]

I dont know if this is real or just a freaky coincidence, but honestly it seems like its like that already. The amount of times ive been starving and run into ai last minute is kinda weird. Once a crab as a baby utah, a dryo as a baby pt and utah, a deer as utah again, bunch of frogs as utah, boar and fish multiple times with deino on separate occasions. I think ive only not found ai when starving twice or thrice on the qa branch

But before that nothing, its only when im starving or in a fish spot I know that I find anything

[lucid wave]

wait there's AI in this game

[glad tangle]

yes

Dryo and Fish on Evrima.
And Utah, Teno, Fish, boar, deer, frog, rabbit AI on QA (I think there might be more?)

[lucid wave]

i was making a joke on how they dont spawn

[warped lake]

WHEEZE

They spawn, but sometimes it bugs out

Usually they also hide really damn well apparently

[woven wolf]

I'm also going to make a mention that they sometimes bug out or hide really, really well, but that I do agree with @livid imp 's comment talking about how they have to be starving to find AI. That seems to be my more recent experience as well, though usually only as a Pteri. Still can't find prey as a land carnivore..... But as a Pteri, usually when I'm starving is when the fish suddenly appear, and then disappear as soon as I've caught and consumned 1 and aren't dying any more. It's kinda odd. Appreciated, but.... odd.

[old loom]

hello, I have a bug, who do I have to talk to to try to fix it?

[livid imp]

#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[obtuse frigate]

Found a deer in a tree the other day lol

Would like to see a more abundance of smaller ai something for the juvis to eat like the rabbits and frogs but maybe some insects that they can eat that won't really do anything for adults or sub adults kind of like the schools of fish in that regard it would be nice if the schools provided more food for juvie deinos.

Think that would help with the immersion and feel more realistic

But also more ai spawning in general I'm sure the dev's are working on that tho

[cedar merlin]

Hmm sounds like this last patch pumped up the AI. Really excited about that as it makes the game viable for carni. Gonna go check it out and see how it plays.

[sweet crow]

I love how deer are totally unconcerned that they're getting bitten. 😆

[zealous thorn]

Is anyone encountering giant hovering fish as a ptera? I’m going to file a bug report I’m just figuring out if it’s happening to anyone else

[sleek bone]

Ive run in to small fish schools 50ft up in the air but none of the big ones yet

[zealous thorn]

I’ve never found any fish yet, is there a place you go? I really wanna play ptera but I can only play until I starve out

[sleek bone]

On live fish are bugged. Theyll spawn when a server reset happens but once theyre gone theyre gone. They spawn in any inland river but not the swamp. In qa they are in every fresh water source including swamp

On live i usually end up having to hunt dryos which are usually easy to find east of the dam near the border barrier

[zealous thorn]

I’m in qa atm :/ is it possible for it to just be my game?

[sleek bone]

It could be, sometimes the water texture also makes it harder to see the ripples

Yesterday there was an absolute shitton of fish at the northwest falls area

So could try there

[cedar merlin]

yeah you can LOS the boars

[leaden salmon]

im having the same problems. I cant find any fish and i almost fly across the hole map every time just to starve to death.

[sleek bone]

Sea turtles are so messed up ive only ever seen a single one while searching as ptera and it was dead in the grass

[winged glacier]

Ive seen 3 Sea Turtles today at the coast as Pachy, 1 dead and 2 roaming together in the beach

[sleek bone]

lucky

maybe i should start following herbivores around because it seems like whenever valuable ai pops up an herbivore stumbles upon it lol

[winged glacier]

Thats true, never seen this amount of AI ever as Carnivore

[sleek bone]

i also havent found any cabs at all even on pachy

[winged glacier]

I had the honour to bonk a Boar and couple Goats

[sleek bone]

so the herbivore luck doesnt always strike me

i did find boar and deer on ptera but the only diet food i find is my fish and the single dead turtle. feelsbad

if frogs were on ptera diet which they should be but arent for some reason then i would have struck luck there too because frogs are absolutely everywhere

[winged glacier]

AI spawners needs tweaking, its not normal that I found a Deer, AI Teno and Dryo all 3 together in the same spot

After a server restart btw

So not a coincidence

[winged glacier]

Ive never seen a single frog

[sleek bone]

i found a shitton of dryo ai that i just kfsed because it isnt diet for me, and the tenos spam so much its hard to miss them

theres a ton of frogs in the fields east of swamp

nowhere near water too

havent found a single rabbit but ik other people are running across them

[winged glacier]

Mmm I should check the place and check for those as im doing some research to know hows AI spawners working now

[sleek bone]

ive found dryos, tenos and frogs in the east of swamp area in plentiful supply

there is also a river at the border where fish spawn

[winged glacier]

Seen 2 Rabbits also today, wish I was playing a Carnivore this sesion

[sleek bone]

herbivores are ai magnets lol

obviously not really but it sure feels like it

[winged glacier]

Even saw Elite fish outside of the rivers taking a look Lol

[sleek bone]

the elite fish love to come to shore and tease you and then go back in to the water when you get close

theyve done it to my poor ptera a lot

[winged glacier]

Yeah , I did headbutt one as 30% Pachy but the dude didnt care

[sleek bone]

i pecked at one about 50 times as fresh ptera and a juv stego took pity and finished it for me lmao

theyre pretty tolerant of being stabbed in the face

[winged glacier]

Lmao this game AI its doing everything but feeding Carnis

They exist to be found by the herbis and make memes

[sleek bone]

i bet if i go utah or carno the boar and deer will decide to just disappear

[winged glacier]

Facts

[sleek bone]

a shame all the ai i kfs on ptera doesnt do shit for my diet

[winged glacier]

I can imagine those Deinos suffering for Sea Turtles with this dumb diet path they have now

Meanwhile me as Pachy with the Coconut in my mouth

[sleek bone]

idk why they thought it would be a cool idea for the animal stuck in a river to require ai that doesnt even spawn in correct spots

turtles that spawn in the middle of fields, i ran in to 3 boar on the beach in the north where a deino aint getting them

[winged glacier]

Me neither , if this is for testing they should revert or rework that diet for crocs

[sleek bone]

only thing i regularly see near the water is deer

crocs should stay as not picky animals

they cant much afford to be picky especially if the ai theyre supposed to eat spawns in the middle of nbowhere

[winged glacier]

I usually find them in random spots next to dense jungles or plains close to shallows, I dunno if they even have a proper locational spawner

[sleek bone]

ive found a decent amount of deer in the north riverbanks but not much in the south part of the map

im assuming the only reason for that is that area is less populated too though

[winged glacier]

Tbh Deino should stick to get nutrients from everything it can catch and give nutrients depending on the food given by the prey

[sleek bone]

yeah it really should just be able to take what it can get

not every animal in the isle should be picky

some dinos should just go with the flow

"oh this looks edible" should be enough for some

not hoping that some boar happens to go to the water near where you are without another deino or a carno getting it first

[winged glacier]

Crocs are supposed to be opportunistic animals and considering theyre stuck in the rivers and swamps its not a bad idea at all

[sleek bone]

crocs are some of the least picky animals out there

they can digest the nastiest things too

rotten bloated corpse floating in stagnant water? food. some tourist throws a watermelon at you? food. a baby of your own species? food.

[winged glacier]

Imagine Pachys feeding horned Melons to Crocs

[sleek bone]

lmao paying off allies

theres actually a fruit called alligator apples that american allis apparently snack on

[winged glacier]

Thats interesting , there isnt Apples in the game yet right?

[sleek bone]

i think it is related to soursops and not actual apples

[winged glacier]

[sleek bone]

http://wildsouthflorida.com/pond.apple.html

would be cool beipi food honestly

[winged glacier]

Yeah making it so it spawns next or close to riverbeds

[chrome sable]

Poor Amaroks working on this alone

[olive sluice]

Yeah I feel like they need another person to help
Also cause Amarok doesn't just work on the AI, but a bunch of other stuff too

[cedar merlin]

ai was looking good early lots of frogs rabbits etc. now things has disappeared. pigs and some dryo still left really hard to play utah atm.

[cedar merlin]

I would settle for just having ai around for now and make them better in the future.

[warped lake]

I just got the QA working today, I agree, I think I seen a Dryo AI or whatever the AI is, it attacked me as soon as I spawned, never seen him again

Found a dead catfish on the shore though, could be a bait a deino put down, it didnt bolt to get me so... 🤷‍♂️

Apart from that I didnt see any AI, but I'll probably play more today and see if I find anything

[soft scarab]

Dryo AI needs to be increased IMO, back in update 2 there was plenty of dryo. They weren't hard to find and were more challenging to catch, as juv's anyway.

[chrome sable]

Ehhh

[sleek bone]

Dryo were just as easy to catch last patch as they are now

I killed them as juv ptera and i still can

[soft scarab]

Yeh your right they are no challenge to catch. In update 2 they were at there best as they just ran and changed direction and didn’t do the pointless hide animation. They were also more observant IMO, they would take off the moment your were in sight.

[bronze sparrow]

when tf where ai utah able to eat

[chrome sable]

Always

They clear body’s so they don’t free feed people

[warped lake]

@stoic otter I agree with your suggestion, maybe make them spawn every ingame day? Or every 12 ingame hours? I'd like to have developers add spawn points all across the map for AI to spawn consistently. It could be abused yes, but in every region of the map there should be a radius where the AI can spawn, instead of a point where it always spawns, if you know what I'm trying to imply here.

[stoic otter]

Radiuses in regions yes, that would also make players interact more, fight over food etc, make AI spawn more frequent the less players are online, not necesarily on a fixed timer like ingame days or irl hours so that would keep a carnivore player searching for AI and discourage afk growing to some extent

To not be like "oh shid its getting 6 am, gotta stop camping this bush and get ready to kill the boar that is going to spawn in front of me in 5 minutes

Radius in regions or around players sonething similar to legacy ava spawning

[warped lake]

Yeah, something like that, but I wouldnt want AI to spawn behind the player or around hungry players. I'd like to discourage spoon feeding if possible

[sleek bone]

Two crabs and a turtle in the middle of a field thanks dondi very cool

[west token]

Obtain realism

[sleek bone]

The Isle

[sleek bone]

this rabbits goin places

[olive sluice]

oh my

[west token]

They're going places. A place where god has no power.

I just realized why do all the modern animal ai look like a plastic cut out?

[sleek bone]

they are store assets

so not exactly high quality, i assume theyll make custom models at some point though

[royal fog]

I may have accidently crashed EU 3 on QA :' )
Don't headbutt sea turtles kids

[wicked isle]

lol

[glad tangle]

Just because I said I wasn't finding rabbits.

[sleek bone]

The first and only rabbit i have ever found turned in to spaghetti

[cedar merlin]

Really wonder what this means: "Based on feedback, the team and I are also reimagining our approach for the implementation of AI and the roles that they will fill within the ecosystem;" Must admit im a little nervous.

[sleek bone]

Hopefully their “re-imagination” includes removing the unnecessary tenonto and utah ai but it probably just means theyre gonna make it even worse lol

[woven wolf]

How on earth did you find it? I've hunted for those things with no luck! Were you flying low or something?

[sleek bone]

Sometimes they’re just sitting out in the open where they’re visible I guess. How i found the one and only rabbit ive ever seen while i wasn’t even looking for food

Just luck

[hazy marten]

Have they turned off AI in the QA servers today? Or are they having a break from spawning?

[sleek bone]

God please no to making dino ai more common

The ai is awful

[chrome sable]

Yeah

It has hope but it needs better pathfinding so to say

more of a mix of pathfinding and behavioural change

Like if tenos travelled from a location to a different location i think they would have a lot more potential

Carno Ai should never exist again

and utah AI could do with some combat changes

[sleek bone]

Ive run in to 2 utah ai that were super obviously ai and way too many tenonto ai that try to attack you while you arent even landed and just walk in circles spamcalling otherwise

[chrome sable]

#ai-feedback message
That would make teno AI 10x better

[sleek bone]

I ran in to one utah ai that did the same as tenonto ai walking in an oval pattern barking, and one that tried to attack me while i was hunting a dryo and phased through the map multiple times

It could, yeah, but it doesnt fix their attack patterns and robotic behaviour

[chrome sable]

Dino AI is tricky to get right let alone for one guy

[sleek bone]

Yeah he has a lot on his shoulders trying to work out this disaster ai

[chrome sable]

He hasn't done an awful job considering he also manages server sided things and a bit of bug fixes

[sleek bone]

The ai could be worse for sure

[chrome sable]

Oh hell yeah they could be 10x worse

Like if teno was brutal af in its attacks you would hate them with a passion

[sleek bone]

But with how it is right now i fail to see why anybody would want more of it

Tenonto ai definitely can be brutal in its pursuit hut it blows chunks at combat and is pretty much free food if you know how to work it

[chrome sable]

I like the idea of "Yeah you dont have to go into a server with a bunch of random people" but I also think thats overkill

[chrome sable]

Its definitely not perfect but i dont mind its combat rn, more its movement patterns and behaviour towards other herbivores

It doesnt chase you forever which is the main thing

I've seen bugs where it does but it normally wont

[sleek bone]

Personally i think ai should scale with player numbers, few players, more ai, full server, very little dino ai. Because i hate seeing that one animatronic level tenonto ai spam calling east of swamp when it 100% isnt needed

[chrome sable]

Yeah it definitely should

[sleek bone]

Thar one ai tenonto is always there its ridiculous

[chrome sable]

Another thing that would be good with spawning is locational spawn based on player positions

[sleek bone]

Walking in that same oval pattern by the tree spam calling

I dont think we need legacy again where ai spawns next to players

[chrome sable]

So if everyone is in center a teno a utah and a few other things could spawn somewhere else

[chrome sable]

Yeah no that was awful

even worse when more spawned as you nested

[sleek bone]

Oh yeah that cpuld be less bad

[chrome sable]

Does have opertunitys though

my only hope is that if they ever make apex Ai its only stego and deino

[west token]

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-troll-the-day-of-reckoning-gif-19655212

Teno ai when a juvi pachy exists within 50 miles of it:

[sleek bone]

Is this dude really claiming herbi population needs control especially with carno ai when you can hear the cancerous carno player spamcalling at every corner of the map already

[chrome sable]

He’s just trolling look at the other channels

[bold harness]

why is not ai spaning

[west token]

Wait who I wanna see

[sleek bone]

The post looks like its deleted, the dude who wrote it isnt in the server anymore either maybe he got kicked lol

[west token]

Damn what was the post?

[sleek bone]

It was just like “add carno ai back in to control the herby population”

[west token]

Pfffft

[sleek bone]

He also suggested mating animations in another channel so i guess i can see why he could have gotten kicked

[west token]

Also what's a blocker bug?

Cause if that is just major bugs then I think they may be lieing a bit

[sleek bone]

No idea lol

[west token]

I hope blocker bugs are what is stopping them from making any significant progress

But if it just means "big bugs" then I cant even count them on 3 fucking hands

[sleek bone]

yeah there's so many

[opaque badge]

Yeahhhh especially the suicidal land fish who learn to fly 🥲

[sleek bone]

Bruh 80% of the big fish i see aren’t even in the water even as deino its crazy

[west token]

They are simply evolving

[sleek bone]

This fish's powers are beyond our understanding

[west token]

Me on my way to bang your mother ^

[chrome sable]

They do need to fix that yeash

oops sorry tag lul

[sleek bone]

on a bright side, the landfish are good lunge target practice lol

[chrome sable]

Btw @deep goblet invisible not invincible I got a little confused there xD

Btw that would be so nice, teno ai are far too aggressive rn

Wish they didn’t attack dryos

[deep goblet]

Thx for correcting me!

[sleek bone]

That yellow zone is super tiny close to the tenonto, its a good concept though otherwise. The main issue is it attacks you from like 50yd away rn

I don’t think it should be so lenient that you have to get literally in breathing range before it attacks though, makes it a bit too easy

[west token]

While I think teno ai should still be pissed off constantly,

Pachy ai I think should just have malice for anything that exists

[deep goblet]

It's not the actual size of the zone. I was only putting it that close to show the zones. If this mechanic gets added, I'd suppose these zones would be far larger then what the actual image shows

[deep goblet]

Yeah teno is an animal with high temper but I think it's a little unfair for an AI that will most likely cover the map more then carnivore AI to always kill you. Pachy however i can agree that it should be stupidly aggressive

[west token]

Honestly all herbivores just hate things that breathe

Even dryo has a temper as far as I've seen

[deep goblet]

Why should herbivores be the killers when it suits carnivores better?

[west token]

I don't think they should be killers but if a carno is in a teno's line of sight its gonna react. Be it violently or by running

[chrome sable]

Ehhhh

I wouldn’t pick fights if I had the Option not to

[deep goblet]

That’s basically killing on sight. Which was the whole idea of herbivore AI not doing that because they don’t need to

[chrome sable]

We dont like killing on sight

[west token]

No I mean like that chart that guy posted just makes the agro zone way to close.

I just think that herbis shouldn't be that tolerant

[chrome sable]

Its just an example i think

[unkempt ivy]

@west token The AI you were chasing

[west token]

what?

[unkempt ivy]

https://tenor.com/view/maximum-over-drive-plankton-spongebob-gif-20257404

That was weirdly hard to find

[west token]

bro that thing just wouldt de aggro and it was scary

[unkempt ivy]

Lightspeed attack missle doesnt sound good

[deft peak]

Did I understand it correctly that with the new update there is no AI ?
"Removed Dinosaur AI until it has been further improved."

[mossy yew]

There are still ambient animals as AI, but yes, if we go by that, any dinosaur AI is gone for now.

[deft peak]

Or there is AI but are standing still (as there intelligence is "removed") ?

[mossy yew]

I doubt there's any non-player dinosaurs around. And the ambient critters work as far as I know.

[west token]

Implying that they were smart to begin with

[deft peak]

I think they were: nobody could find them, nobody could see them.... darn good AI camouflage 😉

[sleek bone]

The AI in evrima has never been good, it was just at one point a bit less shit than currently. The dryos at least attempted to run away previously

[ivory sun]

Boar AI is busted now for some reason they will legit chase u across the entire map

[hot shard]

AI in general is a bit weird sometimes... some fish straight up fly on land lol

[chrome sable]

They stop chasing you after 3 runs, unless your trying to kill it I doubt they would consistently do it

[glad tangle]

The AI dryos were pretty decent I think, they would broadcast occasionally, and if they spotted you, would run a short distance away and 4 call (if you didn't chase them), if you chased them they would zigzag, jump and dodge, actually making them a bit difficult to catch, 4 calling to let anything around know that there is danger here. It had its issues, it would freeze up and mess up but it was definitely better than what we have right now.

The (ambient) AI currently freezes up more often than not, they just kind of run in a straight line with the occasional soft turn. On my server now, I'm currently looking at an invisible deer. I can hear it eating, grunting, but I cannot see it. In admin mode it is labelled, says it's there, but I cannot interact with it or see it. And of course I cannot bug report it, because my server is not an official server despite the server itself not really being modified in any way.

[obtuse frigate]

@blazing rose Can the ai bleedout/drown now? I tried during the QA test to drown a Utah raptor at full stam and it survived. I'm pretty sure they can't run out of stam either spent a good bit of time chasing a deer as a juvie Utah and that thing wouldn't stop lol couldn't catch up of course makes sense that it's carno preferred food.

[unreal bay]

hey in my server there is no compy IA spawn :/ how to fix it pls ?

[crimson star]

Literally starved to death after two hours looking for AI on a low pop server..

[spark blade]

Wait are there supposed to be compys? Havent seen any in 10hours of new patch gameplay 😮

[unreal bay]

yes look the trailer update @spark blade

[cedar merlin]

would prefer ai over humans

[chrome sable]

@fallow widget there are no dryo AI

[fallow widget]

Then how did I saw one?

[chrome sable]

It was a player probably

[fallow widget]

No it definitely wasn't

[chrome sable]

I can quite literally grab the quote if I have to there are no Dino ai

[fallow widget]

Then it was a bug that it spawned because you could have clearly see on the Fighting behaviour that it was AI

[chrome sable]

Dryo ai didn’t fight…

They don’t exist

[fallow widget]

Then it was a Bug because it was AI
And in the QA Dryo AI Fight if your just a Baby

Because I was a Fresh spawn Utah it was fighting and not Running

[chrome sable]

But it can’t be a bug cause it doesn’t exist in the code

They quite literally don’t exist

[fallow widget]

Bruh it was a Bug end of the discussion

[chrome sable]

It can’t be a bug

[fallow widget]

It was

[chrome sable]

It Twas a player

[fallow widget]

No it wasnt

[fallow widget]

I saw it you can't say it was a player
Dummy

Lmao

[chrome sable]

It can’t be an Ai…

This is a dumb argument

[fallow widget]

If you say so

But you can't change that it was

[chrome sable]

I can’t change it cause it doesn’t exist!

God damn…

[winged glacier]

Dino AI was removed on U4 release , so theres no way you found Dryo AI

[fallow widget]

I end the discussion now because I know what happend and you know nothing

[chrome sable]

I know that it doesn’t exist!

[winged glacier]

[chrome sable]

It is quite literally impossible!

[fallow widget]

You can say it doesn't exist but if it was a Bug it's still possible

[chrome sable]

It can’t be a bug because if it was a bug it would exist!

[fallow widget]

Yeah and it exists

[chrome sable]

Sorry let me just bug an entire model, behaviour, call, sounds, and everything else into an AI that was removed

[fallow widget]

Idk how someone can't understand that it could've been a Bug

[chrome sable]

This gotta be a troll

[fallow widget]

Because how would you know of its still in the Game and just not used

[chrome sable]

Because it is disabled !!

[fallow widget]

Yeah so it was a Bug

[chrome sable]

I’ll be back in a second to prove my point brb

[fallow widget]

Ok I won't be there anymore

[arctic wraith]

are there no AI

or do they come back on server restart

[next furnace]

I've yet to see an Ai... with 10% belly fill to start with... i would expect to see at least one Ai to help a carnivore to survive.
I wasn't following stuff... is all Ai disabled or what?

[quaint quiver]

Dinosaur AI has been removed from the game temporarily because it was incredibly buggy

Some would just stand around and let themselves be murdered without any reaction, and others would aggro onto a player and chase them to hell and back seemingly with infinite stamina

[next furnace]

then all the other ai is extremely rare.? i died 4 times of hunger in searching for them. never saw any

[chrome sable]

You died of hunger?

Just go anywhere in center

[quaint quiver]

They're not exactly rare if you know where to look for them, but the problem is the refresh rate on them is incredibly low only happening with server restarts. So when the servers restart 90% of them are killed off by hungry players and aren't replaces with any kind of sustainable frequency

[next furnace]

Oh... there's my answer. All Ai is dead 😄
Thanks

[quaint quiver]

Yeah basically. Once you get big enough as a dino you basically have to hunt other players if you want to live and herbivores have to camp very specific areas to find their needed diets

[dire otter]

There's also large fields in certain locations where ai is more likely to spawn, just ask anyone that's played qa for ai fields (if of course, that spawning thing hasn't been reworked/fixed)

[violet thistle]

I haven't seen any AI on NA1 since the patch came out...any one else?

[sleek kestrel]

i guess because when everyone eats them all, they dont respawn

gotta wait til a server restart and then get online as fast as possible to get your share

[sweet crow]

Same - and probably not going to be fixed until after the devs are back from holiday, I'd imagine. They should at least add back in dryo AI. Even fish seem harder to come by.

[shut burrow]

just ate a chicken

[sweet crow]

When the servers restart, the map is full of AI. But once they're eaten, it's six hours before the server restarts and the AI is replenished, or at least that's what I'm seeing.

[young ore]

is there any uthas carnos AIs in unofficial servers?

havent c any

[fair thunder]

i dunno try Plugging the return value from the SpawnActor into a "Spawn Default Controller" to spawn wildlife

c “Custom Event” “Event BeginPlay”, “Spawn AIFrom Class” “Spawn Default Controller” use a Cast to and called that Custom Event.

[dull spindle]

the ai of the dinosaurs for when?

[glad tangle]

They took out Dino AI for now.

[ruby plover]

guys

is there ai in the game

i am playing for 9 hours and didnt

see any

[sleek bone]

Ya it just doesnt respawn after it dies until a server reset

Some fat asses probably ate it all

[restive oasis]

Even crabs and turtles?

I can't find any

[dreamy elm]

guys can i ask how i can create one server with special skins or special dinos?

server private¿

i need to dowload one app or need to pay for one server?

[prisma viper]

Anyone else having issues finding the AI? Playing a pteradon...I've found 1 chicken where the turtles/crabs should be (along the coast line) and a few spare fish puddles in the river...no crab, frog, or turtle so far

[quartz axle]

i've been playing for hours and haven't spotted a single ai either

Do they just pop up around the place like the ai before the update

[sleek bone]

They spawn with server resets and dont respawn until the next

After a server reset i saw like 10 goats, 3 rabbits, 5 crabs and a dozen sea turtles in about a 5-10min tour in a straight line across the map

Also about 2 frogs and 5 small fish schools

[glacial orchid]

only met 2 boars and and it went to town on my already below half health juvie from starving. Beach was full of sea turtles and found 3 crabs as a pteranodon (maybe the adult can kill a turtle?). mangos seem to grow around the lake alot but that's a war zone.

[sleek bone]

Juvies can kill turtles too, its quicker to just spam alt bite on it

[sleek bone]

animal ai isnt even remotely difficult to see when it's there it stands out like a sore thumb

[drifting meteor]

"when its there" is the thing tho lol, it's rarely there

[sleek bone]

Yeah they broke the spawning again

[drifting meteor]

again? When was it not broke?

[sleek bone]

Also when people see an ai they tend to kill it even if they dont want to eat it or it isnt on their diet

It seemed fine in the previous qa

[drifting meteor]

Why shouldnt they, its fun to do lol

[sleek bone]

Im not complaining that they do it, was pointing it out because it contributes to the lack of available ai

It gets kfsed, the body despawns in the middle of nowhere and doesnt get used, wont be replaced until a server reset

[drifting meteor]

True.. but its not the players fault that there is a lack of AI even if they wanna kill something they wont eat.. ya kno? Its the respawn system, if there even is one.. The devs havent explained how their AI system works at all

[sleek bone]

I spite-killed like 5 goats as ptera because i didnt want carnos benefiting of them so i aint dissing people for doing something i do too, but it contributes to the ai shortage

Idk why they havent fixed spawns it doesnt seem like it would be particularly difficult to do

[drifting meteor]

Yeah, but it shouldn't in the first place is my thinking on dat lol

but you're right for sure

and also how dare you lol

Goats are your friend!

[sleek bone]

I hate those carnos man theres gotta be sacrifices lol

[drifting meteor]

😆

[sleek bone]

I hope my efforts led to at least one carno starving or having bad diet and those poor goats didnt die in vain

[drifting meteor]

Well I hope so too lol

(That they died for a reason, not that a carno starved.. bc I play Carno)

[sleek bone]

I just associate carnos with spam calling and wall hacking im sure not all of them are shitheads

[novel crown]

No fish spawns for pteras because deinos eat them all because they have no food. I SOLVED IT!

[sleek bone]

Lmao i was doin that i ate like 3 schools of fish at the east swampwith my fat ass gator while a ptera was desperately trying to fish

I also ate all the frogs that dude had nothing left

[real pendant]

why does AI not respawn?

[quartz axle]

I dont really know but i guess they just spawn once until the next server reset then they are all eaten really fast

No more until the next reset after that

[glad tangle]

I haveseen like 20 turtles in a part of the map that no one goes. I suspect that they are over spawning in quiet areas and not in hotspots.

[sleek bone]

There are shit loads of turtles on south beach but they are only on like 2 animals' diets anyway and only one of those animals can really go there

[cedar merlin]

seems like every new feature added breaks the AI. Once or twice AI was good for a bit, then it got broke. Difficult to enjoy/play the game without ai.

[graceful gale]

Yep, defo needs atleast a fresh water spot their. Getting there isn't too much of a problem, good luck getting back though

[sleek bone]

There is a fresh water spot on south beach, however it is hard to find if you dont already know its location

Its a puddle barely bigger than a ptera

[leaden rivet]

I tryed to play as carnos but is almost impossible, Carnos players killing others carnos and this is because the IA`s is not working, and everybody is starving, the Devs must do something, I can only play as Ptero because the only IA working is fish because crabs and turtles only spawn on server resets

[sleek bone]

goats, rabbits, boar, crabs, frogs and turtles are visible from a mile away

the only actual issue is they dont respawn

finding them is a no brainer when theyre actually there

i dont use gamma and they dont blend in at all

maybe its because im colourblind but i can see them across a damn field

i can beeline for a frog from a mile away

when its night time the frogs light up like christmas lights like the lighting doesnt affect them theyre so damn bright i actually have an easier time with frogs specifically at night

i dont alter my light settings whatsoever

theyre using store asset ai that doesnt blend in with the environment

can see the bright ass solar flare sea turtles from a mile away at night too

the shadows dont seem to affect them

if you quit playing then why bother making feedback

path of titans lmao

path of titans doesnt blow shit out of the water either you collect acorns for 40 minutes and then get killed by a mega mix pack rinse and repeat

[chrome sable]

Mfs are visible for years

How many hours you got on isle?

[sleek bone]

right?? its like those mfers are bioluminescent

[chrome sable]

Bro add different types of frogs and you could make a Christmas tree

[sleek bone]

collect all 6 infinity frogs

[cinder kite]

Been going around and cant find no ai to eat on juvi.

[sleek bone]

Some fatasses probably already ate/KFSed them and you gotta wait for a server restart

After a server reset AI is everywhere so if you aint finding it then its in great shortage or just all gone

[sage veldt]

Same issue here, starved to death 5 of the 7 times Ive played carno

Two of those times I died of hunger in the middle of fighting something

[cedar merlin]

Full AI runs when the team comes back from vacation folks. Hopefully help is on the way in this regard.

[cedar merlin]

Not too long ago you could hide from ai behind a bush...

[dire otter]

People probably ate them or killed them before you got to em, it's not that there's too little ai, the ai respawn rate just needs to be a bit better, maybe with more frequent server restarts, but with announcements as to when the restarts will be happening, that'd be nice

[arctic musk]

I see a problem with herbivores running around killing every ai they see so carnivores doesnt stand a chance, And when grown and you load back in your diets are at zero, which means you have -50% attack power against the herbivores you are then going to eat.

[cerulean scarab]

It is highly improbably that anybody can survive as an adult Deino without eating every single fish themselves or eating other Deinos. Realistically, there would be more fish OR a slower hunger cycle. If I'm not mistaken, Crocodiles don't eat much throughout the day.

[zenith solar]

Crocodiles also can hold their breath for way longer then only 5 minutes and also are able to be out of the water for way longer to sunbathe to elevate their body temperature

[feral drum]

Im really tired of playing carnos and dying of starvation

[raven needle]

Crocs can go up to 2 years without food, if need be. Making them eat once a day, game time, is absurd.

[thorny dragon]

Balance has always taken priority over accuracy to the real world.

2 years would equate to over 40 real-world days if applied to this game

[cerulean scarab]

True. ^ I just think they should either have slower hunger degeneration or more food availability.

[cedar merlin]

I am also frustrated with AI, but we have to be patient. Devs are putting in a lot of mechanics right now, giving us dinos to play, and working through performance and bug issues. Devs did mention they are rethinking ai, not sure what exactly that will look like, but I am fairly certain that on the other side of this early development we will have a stable environment full of competent ai.

[vague island]

Why can a Boar literally 3 tap me

[grim jewel]

Why is a boar an immortal that can’t be killed

[sleek bone]

boars arent hard to kill if they dont kill you first

[olive sluice]

I hope you're right, and I mean I'm not asking for this stuff to be fixed and in-game overnight or anytime soon at all. I just wish they'd give us more info on what exactly they want to do with AI and what this rethinking of it is- cause I feel like it's never been clear or properly addressed.

[shy basin]

Before I even mention this, I just want to make sure I'm not missing something. Did the dev's add the scavenger AI that eats corpses? If so, has anyone actually seen them because I have not!

[zealous wraith]

They did but are not functioning great

[final phoenix]

i saw them yesterday, but as niveus mentioned, they don't function well. they kind of just stood around a turtle corpse my friend and i had and didn't move.

[dire otter]

I've seen some that I can chase after, their run and walk cycle is very nice, but I havnt seen any eating

[warped lake]

@drifting meteor unfortunately starting out with very low food is not a bug. I suggested putting hunger at a higher percentage when you spawn, but looks like its not gonna happen

[boreal delta]

I've been struggling really hard to find any other food source than schools of fish for Pteranodon. Any advice anyone?

[sleek bone]

It is likely due to the fact that ai doesnt respawn until after a server reset

I'd try the west end of north beach or the south beach, but even those areas lack in food once somebody finds it

[sweet crow]

Try the beach - there are often turtles there, from the docks all the way to the freshwater pool.

[timid summit]

Well i was about to tell my inconvenience with Ai but reading all these messages I understand it is a common problem

Died of hunger 4 times as Utah since I can’t find food sources as Ai :v

[unreal minnow]

Same issue here.

[sleek bone]

Wow i actually found 2 boar on an official server and didnt starve what a miracle

[glad tangle]

Can somebody enlighten me. Is AI a thing in Evrima? Do they respawn? In the update it said that the AI has been removed.

[sleek bone]

They removed only dino ai in evrima

Boar, turtles, crabs, deer, goats, chickens, frogs and rabbits still spawn with a server reset but then don’t respawn until the next server reset

[glad tangle]

Thank you

[sleek bone]

The ai isn’t hard to find at all when its there, i dont get how somebody can call it invisible. And its only scarce because of a respawn issue, if it respawned without needing a server reset and spawned in bigger numbers than it already does, it would be insane braindead easy to grow any carnivore. It already is braindead to grow one if you find a couple sea turtles or boar

If we had the ai that spawned now spawn in groups with the respawn fixed then high impact carnis would never have to touch another player dino and thats cringe

[mental adder]

the issue with the ai is that don't seem to respawn at all, and with them being on diets of creatures that makes it a pain

I remember on a server restart I bumped into a few ai pretty easily

I think ai respawning every 30-50 minutes would be good

[sleek bone]

Ai doesnt respawn, yeah, thats its issue. It needs constant server restarts which is what some unofficials are doing. The numbers of ai that spawn on those restarts is more than enough to aid a carni population though if it didnt have the respawn problem

Like literally 5 goats can spawn very close to eachother, the beach is coated in turtles and crabs, i find 2-3 boar in close visual proximity to eachother. And most AI are visible from a mile away

[rigid swift]

Why hasn't it been fixed then after 4 months?

[chrome sable]

Ai is hard

Dunno bout theirs

But it’s hard on unity

[upbeat pollen]

Whatever happened to the Tyrannosaurus AI that was planned?

[sleek bone]

It was luckily postponed, indefinitely

[silver raven]

Rex AI has been replaced with boar AI because it wasn't threatening enough

[dire otter]

[upbeat pollen]

Right-oh. Just wondering, since I just realized it disappeared from the Trello.

[brittle quail]

the dinosaur ai was having a ton of issues so it got pushed back

[unreal minnow]

Is Evrima AI respawning yet?

[glad tangle]

doesnt look like it

Ran the entire field around pond and then some. Found 0

[sleek bone]

I feel lucky lol i keep running in to boars on this utah

[rigid swift]

man it sucks i rly want AI fixed

[olive sluice]

Same man, same 😔

[sleek bone]

If ai spawned where there was already activity then people would have even less reason to move around the map.

[olive sluice]

Actually, quite the opposite

[livid chasm]

AI needs to be more abundant than it is now but it also needs to be spread around. If I travel too far as a carno anywhere I starve bc I cannot find anything to eat.

[sleek bone]

AI would be abundant if its respawn wasnt broken, like how tf do they still have that problem goin on its been here for so long lol

AI is insanely abundant after a server reset and then when it's gone it's gone

[upbeat pollen]

I guess the issue was just learned about recently, like while they were on break. I think I saw in an Isle News Update that they'd only just recently found out about it.

[sleek bone]

really solidifies the suspicion that they ignore the feedback channels

[thorny dragon]

The feedback channels have never been meant for bug reports. This has been stated multiple times in multiple locations. Additionally, the team has been on break

[sleek bone]

if they had actually read feedback channels though they wouldn't have "just learned about it" recently

that's a pretty poor excuse

[sleek bone]

funny, this feedback has happened before that. this was a recurring issue

[upbeat pollen]

It seems they know, now, so I'm positive that it is being looked into at this point.

[sleek bone]

hopefully, though its insane how long it took

[upbeat pollen]

It'll get there. I have faith.

[timid summit]

Let’s just give them time to develop, they are on a constant pressure to deliver a good product

[glad tangle]

@urban owl i mean true but prepare to possibly get bodied for @ing a Dev that isn't punch

He's using do not disturb anyway but rules are rules ig

[urban owl]

We paid money. we deserve a working game.

[glad tangle]

They might not make the best decisions but they're kinda trying and at least you didn't pay for a kickstarter scam

[chrome sable]

Tbf most people here have like 100+ hours

That’s worth a lot more than 15£

[radiant raven]

Most people keep playing cause its a promise thats like

just there, sorta

the game has so much potential its almost like the golden idol from indiana jones

but if you snatch it you'll be crushed by the boulder instead of making it out,

its fucked

[chrome sable]

Ah but theres the slight chance that you escape with game gold

thats what we are hoping for

[radiant raven]

its been 7 years, dont get your hopes up.

They can barely code functioning AI after 5 afterall, and they're still repeating mistakes they made in legacy (Oasis and Party Pond on Thenyaw) being examples of just bad map and game design.

[sleek bone]

Its still a fun game even if its shit right now tbh

[olive sluice]

I dont enjoy playing the game in its current state, not rly
Its just so boring JDJDSJ

But I enjoy watching its development and look forward to seeing where it goes in the future

[radiant raven]

I mean it became shit after update 3

Update 1 and 2 was good even if herbivore balance was shit

[prime sky]

we need more AI and playables in my opinion. its fun but gets sometimes boring quickly cuz of the same dinos and toxic people

[dull heron]

i see its really not in their interest to fix the ugly fish position in ptera beek

[light rain]

Fix ai would be soo nice to help carnis have their own way to graze if you think about it

Like make ai common enough to make game alive

[chrome sable]

I just found my first crab AI

Srly though they dont exist

Even on server restarts

[noble leaf]

Need to seriously ramp up how many AI spawn.

[sleek bone]

tantan

[light rain]

try finding frog ai

[sleek bone]

I found 2 crabs at the west edge of north beach where nobody ever goes once

Guess its a good thing only ptera has them on its diet

[chrome sable]

Heads up they look like this

Frog Ai are more dangerous than the boar

[jolly crag]

frog ai is like the only living ai honesstly

i go to south east and theyre all there

[radiant raven]

Boars also respawn, deer once in a blue moon tho

[keen totem]

@median warren yeah, we still need more AI poblation, because it still takes a few hours for the AI to spawn

[median warren]

i understand the developers wanted to put in some challange with this AI spawn sistem (in legacy AI automaticly spawn around you but probably everyone know this), but currently evrima AI system is almost impossible, need a huge ammount of luck to spot any kind of AI at all (exept for small fish for ptera)

[dull heron]

whre all the freaking frogs and bunnies!?!?

i see deers more then anything alse

[light rain]

so ai spawning well now?

[keen totem]

There are bunnies at the east of central plains and frogs at oasis

[light rain]

I swear im seeing more boars but not much others

[keen totem]

It did for me

[light rain]

maybe ill explore more

by that i mean look around a tiny bit

[dire otter]

frogs spawn in all swamp biomes, ive found a decent amount at south east swamp as well as oasis

[light rain]

I hope ai's make more sounds as if they're calling for help or a friend

to help carnis find them

[cyan cliff]

and louder ones, also footsteps would be awesome to have for AI!

[light rain]

ooo also tracking them

pls

i sometimes see a goat and then it goes into the bushes to never be found again

also adding hurt animations to ai would be nice one day

[mental adder]

pretty sure they do have footprints, and some have footsteps, unless they were removed

[sleek bone]

Boar at least have tracks

Goats on the other hand are plain white domestic goat assets and are easy as hell to see

Chickens also make noise, ive heard them hiding in bushes while i walk past

[median warren]

most animals have white or light grey colors, rabbits, boars, deers, all are stand out but still very hard to spot, even with ptera from the sky where foilage dont influence your vision

[sleek bone]

Ive never had issue with goats as ptera, and frogs seem to literally glow in the dark. I can understand issues with darker coloured animals in foliage like boar and chickens though, but goats, crabs, turtles, frogs and rabbits dont even seem to be affected properly by shadows so they stick out like sore thumb in the environment

[chrome perch]

Do AI animals drink?

[chrome sable]

Nope

[light rain]

Think ai should be able to lose stamina tbh

if devs are trying to make them feel more like players

[radiant raven]

just get rid of AI

focus on actual player v player interactions, it'll make the horror elements more refined and genuine

[cedar merlin]

Games without PvE die.

Unless its like a FPS, but even still there is single player/story mode.

[radiant raven]

Games with broken AI dont function either, what's scary about an AI utah just lagging towards you and it's pathing being awful?

If you're wanting a PvE experience then idk what to tell you other than gl being immersed when AI dont work half the time

[chrome sable]

That’s just cause we have 1 ai dev

Who also manages servers

[chrome sable]

Dude spent 2h on a 30% carno

[sleek bone]

How bad was he playin 2 hours for 30% and then dies to a pig lmao the pigs arent THAT strong

[light rain]

They kinda are tbh

Not sure for carno juvie but they uh

They kinda sit on juvie utahs

[sleek bone]

to be fair, juvie utah is basically a rat it even gets oneshot by a merc

i remember running up to one that was eating another dead merc and just kicking it in the face and it died instantly

[light rain]

I wonder can humans even one shot a irl rat

[sleek bone]

yeah it depends ig

[light rain]

Dunno how many of us humans tried training our bare hands to kill animals

[sleek bone]

humans can fail to oneshot a damn wasp sometimes

[light rain]

Yea sooo...

Im not sure juvie utah would go down in one kick tbh

But who knows

I never went full soccer ball on a rat

[sleek bone]

the isle utah is made of paper mache

you can oneshot a rat with a kick or a fling if you do it right

[light rain]

At least realistic utah is confrimed

[sleek bone]

but idk just running up and halfassedly kicking it anywhere and just instantly ragdolling it like the utah juvie

[light rain]

I rather fling tbh

Would be funny

[sleek bone]

yeet

[light rain]

Humans shpuld be able to get utahs off them easily tbh

I mean small ones

[sleek bone]

i hope humans can try picking animals up at some point and throw them

[light rain]

I mean we got hands

[sleek bone]

yeah even if it means we get our arms shredded

[light rain]

I dont see why humans cant grab a pouncing utah and throw it

[sleek bone]

imagine the damage a small utah would do if cats can already lacerate a human so bad

[light rain]

I mean you might take extra dmg

But eh

[light rain]

Yea

[sleek bone]

i want to grab a fresh spawn utah by its tail and just smack it in to a tree

[light rain]

Utah rn feels more rat of ti then a jaguar or somethin

Jaguar utah would be cool...

[sleek bone]

utahraptor is like that squirrel that makes a nest in your work shed and attacks you when you open the door

[light rain]

And i wanna use utah broken arms to bitch slap tenos

[sleek bone]

utahs broken arms could probably work a gun

[light rain]

Jaguar utah thooo...

[light rain]

What

I mean devs didnt say no to door opening

But a gun?

[sleek bone]

because of hand positioning

[light rain]

You telling me utah gonna be able to grab a ak47 and shoot tenos

[sleek bone]

i aint sayin it would be good at it

[light rain]

XD

[sleek bone]

imagine if we could just steal guns with those ugly grabby hands though

[light rain]

Gonna raid some humans bases now just to ahoot stegos

And maybe snipe carnos

As utah

You legit made me laugh hard man

[sleek bone]

accidentally fire the weapon off and hit your pack mate

[light rain]

Who cares

[sleek bone]

i had a feedback about this shit a while back i should re suggest it

[light rain]

Only 1 hour 15 mins of pain

[light rain]

Maybe

But ppl will prob say no

[sleek bone]

#general-feedback message

[light rain]

Since they dont want utah to get a rocket launcher or ak to shoot the roster down

[light rain]

Dont see it

[sleek bone]

well in all fairnes its not like the raptor could reliable aim said rocket launcher, so it's totally balanced

[light rain]

But imagine

[light rain]

You got the right aim

Just some how

And shot it at oasis