#ai-feedback

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lunar valley
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I feel like it just makes since to have Compy on pt diet ¯_(ツ)_/¯

winter cave
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Agreed^ Dacta is, so why not compy. Plus, with the added bonus of ptera being able to eat rotten meat, this could encourage scavenging behavior for ptera more.

clear meadow
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Add boar back to troodons diet pls

tulip kite
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AI just need to be more spread out to encourage moving away from hotspots

wide barn
sand ginkgo
# tulip kite AI just need to be more spread out to encourage moving away from hotspots

Seconding this. I tried to convince a bunch of legacy players to join Evrima and they said they hadn't heard much good about it, but would give it a try... They rage quit after an hour because they kept starving. The AI spawns are relegated to hotspots you have to already be playing the game regularly to know about. We know where highlands is, but they don't. We know boars spawn in jungles near roads, but they don't. They see deer spawn in "all land biomes," but can never seem to find one unless it's off in a grassland twenty minutes from their spawn point... Disperse the AI a little better like it was in legacy, maybe go back to the lifesaving ava-appears-when-hungry mechanic, and this would all be a lot less frustrating for legacy players attempting to migrate over in good faith. The consensus says no one wants to feel pressured they have to already know the game before they ever touch it.

keen chasm
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Dodos...

slow ether
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Even AI Deers fighting back a bit against Juvies is nice.
Ai being able to rott is awesome! ( Rotten Boar gives cera the third AI diet now dont know if thats intended tho but its scav by rotten ig)

brave musk
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i would give my left leg if they doubled ai on officials so baby carnis can grow without having to risk getting killed the moment they spawn scavenging :X

young ferry
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  • Even with 200 players online, the map still feels empty—please increase ambient activity.

  • We need a lot more AI across the board, especially AI dinosaurs, not just small critters.

  • The ocean is lifeless right now: no fish, no marine AI, nothing to interact with.

  • Rivers often run completely dry of wildlife, which breaks immersion.

  • Swamps feel barren and static; add AI creatures and environmental hazards to bring them to life.

  • When you don’t run into other players, the whole world feels dead—more AI would keep the experience engaging between encounters.

round seal
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I suspect a large portion of the map exists as placeholder for future content releases, but without an actual mapping system, the AI spawns and high activity areas being so dispersed, it can feel overwhelming and uninviting to new players.

wide barn
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The ai spawns around multiple people to try and encourage people to look for others I guess. But deino does not live around groups of people, so unless people happen to be near your waterway…you don’t get fish unless there’s other deino’s you get eaten by as the fish ai can’t be spawned by the single deino who needs it alone

glossy juniper
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I starved my second deino in the last 7 days since there are way too few ai to sustain oneself and since players have nearly everywhere on the map a safe drinking spot, you can only really Hunt ai as deino (or rarely another croc)

So maybe tie ai spawns to singular players and please add bigger ai (small sharks in saltwater could be similar to fiah… just bigger)

pseudo sequoia
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Add a 1 to 2 ton hippo to swamps for good food for deino, bary and spino but it'll be a hard fight for young ones

dusky sky
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There need to be at least 2 schools of fish in each body of water and on every beach there should one every 25 meters and ten crabs on beach that respawn every 5 mins once killed and 10 crab under water same respawn time

shrewd bone
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large ai fish for large pescivores

dusky sky
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Or aleast frequently spawn

fading burrow
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Add extra machanics to AI as introductions to what you can expect as you grow:

Boars - gets carno charge, telegraphed with a loud scream and an aggressive gesture
Deer - Gets dryo juke
Goats - get spachy ram with fracture (Only when/if we get variable fractures), and is telegraphed by rearing up on two legs
Chickens - does bleed damage (may already do this I cant remember)
Rabbits - flee into burrows (may already do this, I haven't seen a rabbit in a long time)

Additional AI to show mechanics
Snake - inflicts Venom
Stray dog/Big cat - inflicts grapple/pin (will require a telegraph so you have a chance to get out of the way)

dusky sky
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More frequent fish and fish that swim on this river bed and fish in the beaches Waters

smoky monolith
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AI spawns seem to be non existant in the North lake area, no deer, no boar, no goat. and absolutely not fish or frogs. i am spawn locked here as a deino because i keep starving. Horde test branch

After way too much time fish spawned in North lake. the AI still seems pretty barren in this area

primal epoch
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Some positive feedback here for the devs. Ai came a long way in the Isle Evrima. I didn´t play for a year almost and i remember back then it was almost impossible for me to grow a carno to full adult. I remember i needed to eat sea turtles to stay alive at least. Becuase i couldnt find other ai. let alone nesting with one. because ai was so rare and gave such little food that i was constantly looking for food, and not enjoying my dino. And now in the official servers there are so many ai that nesting with carno is quite easy. its really enjoyable to play as a carnivore again because of many ai spawns. also i really like the small ai packs. I want to say thank you to the devs for this awesome ai development!

wheat flare
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Mske migration zones bigger and make AI/patrol zones just be a part of migration. Not completely, like small amounts of AI should spawn near you if youre hungry, but within migration is where most of the food should be. In my opinion a migration zone is supposed to be an area where the animals go because where they are/were is becoming barren or inhospitable. A big reason why the game can feel empty at times is because players can go and sit in a corner of the map and they know that eventually food will spawn. Players are gonna go where the food is and if the food is only ever in migration zones, players will cross paths more frequently and the map won't feel as empty. Also we need more variety for AI. Just deer, pigs, goats, and fish can get really boring. we should have giant arthropods, swarming carnivorous fish, other small non-playable dinosaurs. It would make the game feel more alive

broken stream
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I think there should be more gore for ai

solid folio
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Where is all the AI now? This is a huge problem that needs to be fixed

floral obsidian
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Since the Update the AI is bucked i think.,.. as a carnivor its too hard

radiant mantle
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I was already dreading this. Every main branch updates goes like that: Ai is fine, next patch theres 0. We are back to the 0 AI. Absolutely impossible to play carnivore.

atomic mesa
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its true - ai was fine early HT but this most recent ported version had a significant drop to almost 0 ai

jade vessel
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No AI spawns / too rare / fish flying in the sky as usual or on land.

tall bough
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Dosen't seem like it spawns any fish.

candid inlet
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Deino is in a terrible state:

Water AI is completely dead on official servers. Just spent three hours growing a deino. In the entire time of rolling up and down river delta and near water access, I saw one pack of schooling fish, and ZERO elite fish. The only reason I survived three hours is because I found a carcass of a presumably starved Deino that I was able to eat, after eating that, I didn't find any other food except for a few small meals near the water, until I starved.

I also saw no players drinking in this area of the map the ENTIRE time. I think it REALLY needs to be easier getting to other water sources as Deino. AND there definitely needs to be more food for them to survive.

When you hit near FG, schooling fish and elite fish do virtually nothing. And many times you're at such a point of starvation, that even taking the trip on land to a more popular hotspot is basically suicide at that point.

tawny coyote
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Why is there no AI spawns? the update made being a carnivore inpossible

neon slate
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No AI..... No fish.... No nothing out there for food source. Please please please fix this ASAP.

abstract orchid
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make it so frogs don't move too far away from a water source

dusky sky
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Add schools of fish on beaches and make sure they spawn frequently

glacial moon
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What is ai? ive never seen any

karmic halo
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basically impossible to play juvi raptor right now. No AI, nothing to scavenge, player bodies disappear pretty fast if you can even get to one, boar are stupid rare with an insane health pool compared to a fresh spawn raptor. Rabbits don't spawn at all. I've had a fight with one invisible chicken, and seen 1 taco at all. AI flee distances are insanely high. Tacos should not be fleeing as far as delta.

little sequoia
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The AI seems to be less. Or its invisible. Please take care of this. it should be as much as before the update. sometimes you hear ai but you cant find it

simple topaz
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Went from North Lake to South Plains and didn't see a single AI besides a taco once we got to south plains on a red stomach. Would love a fix for this.

tawny tangle
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Need AI spawns fixed ASAP!

heady orchid
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I haven't seen a single sea turtle nor any fish in delta. been playing non stop ptera eating anything i can outside the west side of the map

light anvil
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FIX AI , you’re gonna lose many players if you don’t listen to our complaints .

sharp zealot
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the game is literally unplayable as a carni atm starved at least three times now

twilit pivot
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I played Dino for four hours yesterday and didn't see a single Elite fish. I had to chase pigs and goats into the water to survive. I only saw 2 adult trikes. Please fix the AI ​​fish. (Picture my rod).

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mental zephyr
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still having problems finding ai and with the trooden food drain increased as juvie its impossble grow

fading cipher
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No food at all for anyone as AI, please take this as priority, because people can't grow up and start some fights or something

late monolith
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After update I die not from fight, but from starving....

balmy turret
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I have played 2 fresh deinos and i died from starvation looking for food their whole lifetime and not finding a single fish, be it school or elite

peak bough
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I have died 20 times in a row from starvation, am tired of making new dinos every 5 minutes. The only way not to die is to be a vegan/herbivore which is no fun. I think many players will leave "the isle" community due to lack of food. There are 100 players with 0 AI. It's already survival enough to be on a deserted island with 100 predators why make it impossible to live?

buoyant wolf
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The AI spawnrate makes it impossible to play any carnivore. I hope this is a bug and not something that was implemented because it takes away the fun in playing the game.

elder summit
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Fix Croc ai ( fish )
Impossible to play without a single fish

Not a single fish in the whole water

crisp bramble
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How are we past the first 24 hours of this patch and still haven't gotten an AI spawn fix? Absolutely inexcusable the Dev team let this happen.

light anvil
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To be honest this is unacceptable, players probably would just stop playing it , cause why waste time if there’s literally NO FOOD ! For carnivores

versed yoke
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The AI needs adressing asap!!.. i dont play deino but they litrally have no way to grow - even as land carnivore theres next to no AI people will stop playing if they cant grow there dinos to adulthood please help us little dinos!!

ancient locust
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this is the third time ive found dead AI on the ground without a bones symbol or flies above it and when i go to eat it i get sick. i feel like there is an issue with lack of AI spawning but also its making it hard to survive if i cant tell if the food is decayed already or not

cold stirrup
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No fish spawning on EU8 atleast, didn't checked other Servers. But the spawn rate of ai dropped really Bad, almost impossible now to grow a carnivore

errant phoenix
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Game is unplayable for carnivores. May be done playing until it's fixed or at least acknowledged

mystic crane
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0 Fish AI on NA4

cerulean hollow
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4 EU servers tried today, 4 baby Deino’s = 4 starvation deaths. Zero fish.

2 x baby Cera, 2 starvation deaths.

little sequoia
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there is no damn ai, youre doomed with troodon, yopu cant even scavange with troodon because there is nothing to scavange because you keep spawning on rediculous places, cant even kill urself. what is this. give the server more ai

unique vessel
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we found all the na elite fish.....

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undone dawn
lean coyote
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So are ai fish spwans just completely nonexistant, i patroled the delta for an hour and saw nothing, only getting a bepi for food. Im fixing to starve to death so i had to log

snow kiln
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This is the starvation patch

jagged fjord
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I get what the devs were intending to do with this update with making AI less frequent so things like cera and carno cant live off it. But it also impacts other playables like troodon and ptera. So I suggest adding more smaller AI and make Deer and boar and goat the same frequency but just make things like chicken, rabbit, frog and schooling fish more abundant

viscid granite
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as a pteranodon I've been flying around and died twice off spawn and didn't find anything to eat after literally searching the entire map for food, Im still looking and havent found anything other than a herd of trikes I literally cannot live.

little sequoia
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if you do not increase the ai so troodons can scavange then please at least make chickens rabbits frogs slower so we can catch them or make the troodon faster again

silver latch
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we are troodons at south east waterways and heaps of ai spawning just sometimes they invisible for a bit at times

vivid crystal
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the fish spawns are totally broken, i fly as pteranodon over the complete map and not finding any fishes since a hour maybe now, only one fishspawn and then we can only get 2 of them then it despawn. And we didnt see any other ai either, there is litary no food for carnivors

brave musk
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I havent seen any ai besides one psitto since update... eesh....

safe yoke
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No food anywhere for every carnivore species. It’s a starvation simulator at this point. Wtf

mossy brook
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I don’t think deer should be fighting back and 1 shotting 30% grown Herreras just seems stupid for juvies that are starving

tough hull
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After an hour of playing, I only heard a deer. AIs for carnivores are almost nonexistent. I logged off because I was already starving in na10.

jade vessel
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No AI

mild mountain
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I just played as a raptor. In east swamps is a lot of deers and boars. Thats nice. But after I leave this location I cannot find any single AI.

spark hare
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Crossed 40% of the map checking hot spots and AI spawn Locations on an Adult Omni Raptor. I starved to death. Pretty crazy.

vital ravine
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fish basically not spawning, spent a few hours tonight and last night across 3 or so servers to nest as a Ptera and its looking pretty impossible. Have only been scavenging stuff off diet. unrelated to AI, but sidenote the Ptera stam still is really rough

wicked frigate
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Ai makes Sound before even spawning.
Idk if I'm the only one but I've noticed that there's no Mammal AI until you get close to the sound you last heard them and only then will they appear, so basically you can't spot ai from far distances anymore and you're heavily required to be able to hear the faintest of AI sounds, no wonder people say there's no AI.

paper rain
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ITS BROKEN! New strat is to scavange on other dinos that starved.

echo jay
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Playing carnivore is almost miserable now, no Ai and mostly lots of people are trikes (nearly impossible to take down and kill). Waited for restart to happen, and still no Ai to eat. Ended up losing my Cerato. Please add a fix to this to make the game playable and enjoyable for carni players.

urban sparrow
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Quick Ptera Feedback After the Update (Full Steam Discussion Linked Below)

Hey all, just wanted to share my experience after grinding this weekend post-update. Tried growing about 40 Pteranodons — only 4 made it to adulthood. Not PvP deaths, not predators, just plain starvation because AI spawns are practically non-existent for flyers.

Funny thing? I also tried Deinosuchus and Cerato on other servers — AI everywhere, easy to sustain. So clearly, this issue hits Pteras hardest.

Here’s why it’s broken for Pteras:

You rely entirely on sound to hunt, but flying limits hearing distance.

Weather completely drowns out AI sounds, can’t hear a thing.

Spotting small AI from the air? Nearly impossible at speed.

So it becomes a "respawn simulator" instead of actual survival gameplay. You spend more time dying than playing.

Suggestions?

Give Pteras some visual hunting aid — think glow/highlight for AI from above.

Boost AI sound cues for flyers so you can actually locate prey.

Full deep dive and suggestions here:
👉 Steam Discussion Link

Would love to hear if anyone else had similar issues or ideas.

Ongoing Frustration with AI Spawns – A Plea from a Long-Time Play...

Dear Development Team, As a long-time player of The Isle and Evrima, I want to start by acknowledging the aspects of this game that keep pulling me back: the immersive world, the realism, and the unforgettable tension of survival. It’s clear that a great deal of passion and hard work has gone into this project over the years, which is why I’...

dusty peak
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As Carnivore, we have much more problems to Grow and stay stable with the Hunger. I have Deinosuchus and the fish spawn are to low. In the normal Ponds does not spawn any AI, No Elite fishes and no schooling fishes in the Ponds. Im very Lucky if i saw one Elite Fish im allways have low food, its very hard to stay Alive. The Schooling fishes needs a buff i think to get a bit more food from that. They give me as Full Grown Croc 0.30% food

mighty adder
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You guys need to fix the ai problem or these skill issues are out and the feeding frenzy will end lol.

lean basin
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Unplayable. Not nearly enough food.

unique vessel
molten reef
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where are the turtles?!?!?!

amber wind
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Played for hours and died because there was no ai spawning. I've seen countless posts about ai not spawning and people dying not able to play carnis because there's no ai food to grow. How are people supposed to play rex and allo when they release if there no food? Babies can't go around killing fg trikes, tenos, or stegos it's impossible. Playing as a carni is impossible right now. Ai spawns need to up upped and fixed.

quartz magnet
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no ai, no fish in ponds

brave musk
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Finally saw an ai... as a maia... a pig swimming lol

cerulean hollow
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As deino I started in swamp and quickly migrated to the rivers (swamp was always hard to find fish so I didn't chance it) but even in the rivers I saw 0 fish. I kept hearing deer so I would walk around and when I got close enough they would materialize right in front of me and run into the water. If I managed to catch them I had my only source of food so far but no nutrition. By the time I made it to the waterfalls I gave up on seeing fish and suicided the deino to play cera for the 100th time.

fickle hull
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Just lost a FG carno to starvation… saw plenty of ai around south plains when I spawned in but when I moved locations I couldn’t find a single ai the whole time until I starved

rain kestrel
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Just starved again for the 4th timd as deino. Noticed there's no deinos almost anywhere, I wonder why lmfao. During that time of like 5 hours only had 2 small fish and 1 elite fish.

warped lagoon
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what is wrong with the lack of ai theres NOTHING in north lake

molten reef
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Can we get a poll going to see if the old ai should be implemented back in the game? Green check old ai and Red X for we like the new ways (I added one "X" just so its there)

mild wyvern
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fr tho games kinda ass when my last 4 dinos have starved or died bc low health,bc there isnt any damn ai really is jus a game for herbis ig

solemn ingot
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The amount of times I’ve starved on Ptera are genuinely insane. I am so thrilled they got an update but I’ve had at least 20 die of starvation in the past few days. Have not made it to adult a single time😃
Give ptera better hunting aids or SPAWN MORE FISH. I have seen a single fish spawn in the past week and it is getting increasingly frustrating

stoic quiver
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i would love to give AI feedback but unfortunately i'm yet to bloody see one

wispy edge
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needs up ai mans here in a river and not one fish

sand ginkgo
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Seeing plenty in here about AI being almost nonexistent, will echo the notion. I hear ghosts of deer, but literally nothing. Was standing in an open field and heard a deer calling just nearby, couldn't see it at all. Invisible deer? Or deer that spawn in and instantly vanish after calling?
Another issue was having respawned five actual times from starvation, and two of those times finding a dead boar that instantly rotted the moment I touched it, and it gave me a bite and a half... It smelled fine until I put my mouth on it, an that bite and a half made me instantly vomit out anything I could have gained. Then I was starving, dehydrated, and unable to run to chase down ghost deer.
Other than hearing ghost deer and encountering two boar that rotted on contact, literally no AI spawned otherwise. No tacos, no fish, no rabbits or chickens, I don't even remember the last time I'd seen a compy... What's happening here, guys? This better be a bug and not more effort to force players into fighting more. That already happens just fine. Wasting thirty minutes of my life trying to play a game that formerly was very fun for me is not fine. You shouldn't have to already be an adult with a pack in order to survive as a carnivore.
Please fix the AI spawns. That is all.

obtuse flame
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Fix ai

sage cypress
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No water Ai whatsoever 😡

molten bone
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Fix ai please

warped lagoon
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Honestly if this whole ai problem ain’t fix I don’t see myself playing the game anymore all you can play is a herbivore now as soon as you are a carnivore either you hunt other players … or you pray that the deer you just heard isn’t glitched or simply not there ! This is getting ridiculous

elder summit
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i will post every day the same post

  • Day 2

Fix Croc or gen. carnivore AI ( fish / Boars etc. )
Impossible to play without a single fish / or meat as other Dino

unique vessel
merry mango
tropic scaffold
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Fish spawns are borked.
They work for maybe an hour after reset then go all weird constantly spawning into rocks, waterfalls and logs IF they spawn at all.

On Server reset, fish spawns are clumped with multiple elites, school fish all spawning on top of each other, while this looks cool, once other ai gets to cap, fish spawns end.

Deino Gameplay is now ultra difficult setting. GL.

sage scaffold
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Any updates when AI will be fixed???

late mango
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about 6 different tries died 6 times consecutively because there is just no ai to be found

earnest drum
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what ai?!

median plank
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Honestly, the complete silence on this issue from the dev team is disheartening to me. I would feel better if they at least popped in to say "We see the issues that are happening with AI. We don't have a solution right now, but we are working to fix this soon" would go a long way in making me feel like the issue is at least known to them.
Right now I wonder if they are not secretly glad about the lack of AI spawn, or this is a new feature that is working as they want it to. I just don't know.

ivory terrace
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I just found like 4-5 times in 3 hours AI(deer;boar).
But actually i cant even say "found". I heard the noises, ran a few times over the place in circles, suddenly a deer just spawns right infront of me.

This has nothing to do with hunting anymore, listening and waiting till it appears in your mouth. thats just dumb. But now try not to starve while walking in those loud as bushes while it rains and thunders xDDD

And its not just that the AI is invisible or spawns in only after you are ontop of the spawnpoint, since the update dropped i havnt found a single baby deer or boar and all the spawns i have encountered where single animals only.

summer saffron
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The adjustment to the ai water spawns has now made ptera unplayable, love the new moves, very very tired of starving to death. Turned what was my favourite playable into unplayable and now the game just isn't fun anymore. I have no issue with ai being more spread across the water biomes and beaches but we've gone from decent hot spots to almost nothing. I have seen one fish spawn since the update and I play most days. I really hope the devs can find the time to fix this issue.

tiny trellis
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The ai has been really weird on herrera, when I’m on the ground they stay near but if I go up in a tree it’s like it doesn’t register a player in the area and despawns till I’m on the ground again

vapid torrent
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Pl fix the ai and increase the spawn rate for them

runic salmon
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The deino is literally unplayable, there are no fish spawning, the only prey you can even hope for are small deinos

balmy pasture
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Please increase/fix the ai spawn, Carnis are unplayable atm. i tried it a few times but always die cause of theres no single ai.. i guess i'll leave that game until this is fixed..

fallow hollow
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its kinda sad seeing lakes and skies so empty without fish, no deinos or pternadons anywhere

mild wyvern
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do yall even play ur own game at all? if so try it without admin commands n see how long it takes to starve, fix the ai

reef veldt
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Carnivore are Not playeble, ai Spawn dont Work.

austere lake
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Ai dosent spawn

dusty peak
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Again.. A fullgrown Deinosuchus dead cuz of the lack of AI nothing found to eat, unplayable i take a break from that game

warped lagoon
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how can you find the game enjoyable anymore ... all you do is starve cause the ai is non existent ... fix your game pls ! it used to be alright before this horrible patch ! now you're forced to canni from your friends who STARVED to stay alive ! that's no longer fun anymore it's incredibly frustrating !

eternal fjord
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the ai is weird, is it supposed to be like this tho? doesnt seem so cuz it doesnt say anything about changing AI spawns in the update logs

radiant beacon
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Please make the ai spawn as before, carnivores have become unplayable 😒

safe yoke
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The games already been unplayable fir all except herbis for over a week. WTF. No AI at all

tacit stag
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Agreeing with the majority here, the Ai is horrendous.

Been playing recently, of course, due to Trike being released. While playing I have seen maybe 10 AI, if that, over the course of maybe 50+ lives.
One reason this has been happening is because Ai can hide, from what I can tell ALL Ai can hide. Deer can go in bushes, under the fallen logs, and so on. This means you just wont ever see then because as soon as they spawn they run away into a bush and just vanish till something runs into said bush or hiding spot.

The fish Ai though? I just dont even think they exist anymore. Ive barely see any elite fish or schools, even while playing a creature with those in its diet. It isnt even because im not in a migration zone, as even those are void of any AI.

Please fix this issue. Ive barely seen any FG carnis because they simply cant make it to adulthood, and when I do see them its only because the server allows trading in for points and such.

timber whale
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PLS FIX AI

fallow hollow
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I see fish ai spawn in hl and only in highlands, sometimes in delta. But it makes being a pt very boring. I wanna smoke a J and fly around the map but now when i do it i know its the end of my life cause i wont find food again

delicate gate
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Just fought a deer a DEER as raptor 15% Grown. When I finaly found it after maybe 20min search it litterly killed me with a stomp. Like what are we supose to do in this update.

ivory terrace
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i just found a boar in the craziest way.
I heard it, then i walked towards it, after i already walked past the sound it spawned behind me, as i chased it it despawend and after 2 seconds reappeared
This AI spawning is so broken

barren mural
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AI spawn is pretty much gone, i cannot grow ANY carnivore without needing to scavenge off of player kills, which is hard to find as i have starved to death 45 different times today, please fix the spawn rate...

mortal nexus
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Please add different types of aquatic AI for Deino and any future aquatic playables that fill different diet requirements other than lines.

With the recent map change, there are so many safe drinking spots that you, as a deino player, will NEVER see another player drinking water (unless they’re new or desperate). It’s quite literally a requirement to cannibalize other deinos in order to prevent starvation and even then you’ll still probably starve because of the lack of large deino players to sustain your growth with the addition of no AI. The current AI spawnrate for the elite fish and schooling fish has resulted in the complete collapse in enjoyment for playing this crocodilian. Please fix this bug, it’s been a thing for way too long and it’s extremely irritating that there still hasn’t been a hot fix for it.

Also, bring back rotting schooling fish to give you dots diet. That was such a genuinely fun little addition for the lackluster gameplay of Deinosuchus and I was devastated to learn that it was removed when I tried it again recently.

The silence regarding AI fish spawns (and AI land spawns) is extremely disheartening, demoralizing, infuriating, and straight up disrespectful to your entire player base.

pseudo dagger
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I love playing deino and this game but im genuinly about to quit due to the lack of ai. I shouldn't have to starve or eat friends to survive. I just lost a elder deino because of this. FIX YOUR GAME??

gilded adder
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Ai on land ain't any better. lol

atomic mesa
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@those giving feedback, there's no way this is an intentional AI change. For most of the hordetest it was perfectly fine.
It's clearly bugged out / invisible / inconsistent spawning at the moment.
Go file bug reports instead.

serene raven
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I don't understand this update has been in the works for a while and its released in a broken state.. Again the Ai is non existent and its hard for carnivores to try and survive which this has happened multiple times in past updates with Ai not spawning. Even resorted to hand feeding players on my unofficial to keep them alive during these times which should not have to be done. I can 100% say there is an Ai issue when I cranked up my Ai density to 5 and the time it takes to check for new spawns from 40 down to 10. Not 1 singular AI spawns after 30 minutes I just don't understand how it takes this long to work on an update to release it into a broken state almost making the game completely unplayable from certian views...

wide barn
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Hopped on after I heard about an update in the hopes I could finally play my FG deino I have at east swamp, only to hear the ai only got worse…I was barely getting by on deer and boar I feel if I log on anymore before a fix now I’m guaranteed to starve 😔

nocturne bay
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It is absolutely frustrating to play as a croc that already takes a long time to grow. And now, with the AI bugging out, it’s nearly impossible to find something to eat- you have to travel from south to north just looking for anything. Places like the river should be filled with fish.

lunar hound
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two lives as a troodon to die of starvation both time bc there is no ai to be found. traveled from verdant pond through highlands and only saw a carno...

balmy pasture
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I hope the DEVS fix the AI soon, i just started this Game and absolutely love it, iam not ready to uninstall it yet, but with this Bug it doesnt make 1% fun..

fervent needle
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Just adding to the list. Running around between south plains and west rail for 20-25 minutes and not seeing one AI causing your FG dino to die is crazy work

carmine forum
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I've had four juvi dinos die from starvation causei could not get any ai to spawn. is your're not a great player or playing solo, this just means you dino just starvs to death

cerulean geode
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We gotta fix fish ai in a ton of areas. Big time in the swamp fish can thrive in the swamp. gotta make the ai spawn more. If I'm in a place like north lake/swamp i should see fish out and about and not worry about potentially not finding anything and starving for that reason.

Maybe add different ai for the certain areas so animals could thrive more? Obviously not all these suggestions should be added just a few to make certain animals now and in the future have a better experience.

Freshwater fish like early gars bowfins and lungfish

Coelacanths and other lobe-finned fish

Sharks and rays in both salt and freshwater

Amphibians like giant salamander-type creatures

Land animials i cant really think of any good ones. but just make them actually spawn lol. deino is unplayable and the most stupid thing to try and play right now. its just starving sim

restive gull
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The best AI situation was 1,5 years ago, even angry boars was better then no boars. I will wait when devs will make Evrima great again.

pastel grail
dusty peak
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We need a Patch / Fix for the AI. The AI is bugged, and as Deino is not possible to stay alive, is lost three FG Deinos they are not playable anymore after the Patch.

bleak pebble
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You know, Im no dev. I really have no clue how hard it must be to develope a game like this and how tricky it must be, to create a good working AI. But for me the most disrespectful thing is, that a lot people are complaining about the situation with the AI. Since the update came on. But there is still not a single statement or announcement coming from the devs. just nothing. Nothing like "We see the problem, we are trying to fix it" or even something like "no, the AI works just how we want it to work". And this such a big disappointment to all players who supporting this game. If you dont want feedback or react to the feedback, just close the feedback channels. But dont give us the feeling, that there is a place where we can be heard, if you dont listen and ignore....

coral nexus
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Previously, empty locations had AIs that would spawn without any problems, but now there is simply nothing even in the most empty place on the Server.

-AIs do not spawn correctly
-AIs when spawning after hours make no noise, making it nearly impossible to locate
-AIs spawning underground
-Smaller AIs are even worse at spawning, and are also even worse at locating them

Please, release an update as soon as possible to fix this.

wraith marlin
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~~Here's the pattern:

  1. Huge patch is dropped that everyone is looking forward to.
  2. Tons of people flock back to the game. Lots of new players.
  3. Due to a major issue with the ai, the game is unplayable for most of the playerbase.
  4. After starving 6+ times in a row on carnivores (even veteran 1000+ hour players) and radio silence from the devs for at least a week (usually over a month), the game is abandoned again.

This is frustrating, and a huge waste. This is my favorite game, but I've been in a literal life-or-death survival situation and food was easier to find. I know the devs pour so much love into this game, but all the cool new features don't mean anything if the game isn't playable.~~

Edit: I would like to apologize. I still think the ai needs work, but since posting this and having someone reach out I've been finding a lot more ai.
Hanging out in areas and moving around, plus turning your headset volume WAY up seems to help. When you turn your camera, the second the sound goes from one ear to the other, that points you at them.

hasty horizon
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Can't find fishes anywhere. I just literally died 3rd time in a row playing deino by starvation. If i can't find food to even grow, how a full grown deino is supposed to?

EDIT: I invite the devs to try and grow a carnivore - specially an deino - with this current AI's poor spawning rate/quantity. I'm sure the lead team will discover how bad it is.

light fulcrum
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FIX AI NOW PLEASE ALL CARNIVORES ARE UNPLAYABLE LOST 2 FG CARNOS TO STARVATION BECAUSE OF NO AI

kindred dome
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I love dying to no food because fish don't spawn and deino can't get to the places other creatures drink at

junior python
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After careful consideration and extensive analysis, also reading through a majority of the comments. Ai spawning hasn’t been good at all since the latest update. Please fix this major issue, so we can grow our Dinosaurs again.

brave musk
vernal zealot
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3 hours of searching for diet around the map as a pteranodon. Yet some how... finds 2 fish spawns. Having to survive off of rotting corpses has me on the brink of dying

ripe harness
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Look, I don’t usually write feedback publicly at all but this is gotten beyond a joke now.. This was also an issue on HT at least in my experience it was I can’t speak for others, I tried to grow a Herrera to test out the new climbing stuff but myself and the other person I was with starved because there was no AI around except for the odd chicken that spawned which then had to be shared between me and the other person I was playing with. 2 chickens in total spawned in and we heard a deer that sounded like it was right underneath us, but it was not there it was very loud and we knew we were in the correct spot but there was nothing. It was either invisible, stuck underground or in a rock and even when we were just playing herbivores like trikes there was never AI around which we both noticed and said to each other. This obviously was not double checked before transferring over to the live branch.

Trying to grow a juvi carnivore shouldn’t be this painful, I get it’s meant to be a hard survival game but not to the point you can’t even grow unless you get super lucky and there’s corpses around which btw is only in hotspots or the places people that have jumped off a cliff (even then it’s probably rotten and inedible unless your a cerato) if you get a unlucky spawn that no one goes to or is around your just guaranteed to starve. I had a ptera starve to death because there was no fish not even in SP which is usually good for fish spawns. The last time I had this big of an issue trying to grow a carnivore was when the last big update came out on live and it was the same issue, no AI around or if it was it was invisible or just one taco. So exactly what is happening now.

To actually play the game, not starve and have fun you have to play a herbivore or omnivore which is fine I enjoy herbi’s and omnivores but I’m also an enjoyer of Herrera, Ptera, Troodon, Dilo etc. Even in hot spots where AI spawned readily there’s nothing and there’s plenty of players around and just a side note as someone who plays Herrera it’s already hard enough to kill ai given how slow they run as a juvi and if you so much as move in a tree slightly to get in a better position to jump on AI they spook and run but this is not the point of this feedback and it’s just part of the game but in terms of the AI spawns? Please fix the game. It’s disappointing to see there’s been absolutely nothing said about this not a sense of urgency or a “we are aware and trying to fix it” just communicate with your player base it would make people a lot happier and more likely to keep playing. The game has a lot of potential and is probably one of the best on the market but with bugs like this and lack of communication it really does put quite a sour taste in the mouth and just annoys your community. As everyone has been saying, please fix it.

atomic raptor
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Since this new update dropped, playing as a deinosuchus is miserable. I haven't found a single elite fish, nor small fish schools anywhere. I tried swimming up and down rivers multiple times, waiting 10 minutes in an area, played right after server reset and nothing. I have starved countless times and it feels like playing as a deino is next to impossible, let alone grow to full adult. I this gets fixed soon.

austere grotto
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I think this is why there is no AI in most areas.

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little sequoia
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there is still no ai at northlake

tall bough
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Still havent seen any Fish 😦

dusty peak
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Fish AI is bugged, and its super super Rare to find some schooling fish, at least I found 1 Elite Fish after the Patch. No Schooling fishes and no other Elite fishes..

solemn creek
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west side of river of northlake seems to have some ai spawns, no luck finding anywhere else

carmine plover
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i cant find any ai on land. running around north lake for the past 2h and 0

neon slate
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Just spent over an hr swimming up and down a specific waterway as a deino on NA 8 and didn't see any elite fish, managed to locate and eat 2 schooling fish spawns and was forced to safe log due to lack of Elite fish to fill my stomach as a FG Deino.

bronze willow
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When player close, spawn AI 🦍

spiral heart
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dying here 😦 for the third time because there are no fishes and elite fishes in the swamps in EU4 ! #ai-feedback

void tangle
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enjoy ai rework

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slow ether
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Seaturtle should be on Deino's diet since Crocs eat Turtles naturally. Also this gives Deino the chance of food around the Saltwater life.

wide barn
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Has the fish ai actually been fixed? Because I just saw someone on Reddit saying that it has but I trust this more then I trust some random person on Reddit lol

serene basin
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just finished playing as 2 deinos, 4h session, only ONE elite fish which was bugged behind a rock, and one fish spawn which gave us 5 fish. anything else was hunting land ai and waiting for it to rot, pathetic. but hey, at least land ai is fixed and dilo is finally playable!

atomic raptor
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I have died twice from starvation so I don't think so.

wind lake
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loaded in found 2 elites and like 6 schools praise the lord the patch worked.... deinos unite, after another hour, the fish were a fluke... (patch was a failure for deinos)

molten bone
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God damm the ai is not fix no fishhh🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬

nocturne bay
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I just loaded in after this new patch, yes very much of the land AI is visible and loud. But for water AI is non-existent. Looks like us Deino are in a bit of a pickle.

mild hatch
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i cant even survive as a pteranodon, i cant hunt anything, i cant scavenge much and all the fish is gone, i just starve to death.

formal osprey
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the fish are there after a server reset but once someone eats them they never seem to respawn

wide barn
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Ok so deino is still unplayable at the moment?

vivid gust
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Can we increase AI spawns? I can barely find any Elite Fish nor Frogs.

cloud shell
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The ai spawn so much in unofficial servers that they crash the server dont know if its the player count or if its because of windows servers fix it within 1 month or something would be nice because now they have to disable it

median willow
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Work out the spawn of fish bots at deinosuchus. Now she's spawning in a strange way, that is, there is no

fringe bramble
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What is going on with the turtles/crabs? 😐

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atomic mesa
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ai spawning is completely broken
because of this hyper crab/turtle spawn point at the south coast, no ai is spawning elsewhere on the map

weary bay
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Fix this please

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little sequoia
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ai not buggy at all 😄

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unique vessel
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AI fish still busted, 7 hours of deino play yesterday and only 2 elite fish right after server reset, then nothing...

stable tusk
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So I have noticed the finding of land AI has improved, however this was only good with Carno and Cera. With the smaller Carnivores I find getting food still a massive challenge early since boars insta kill, deer are really "squirrelly", and rabbits and chickens hard to find or follow in all the foliage. Deino, fish spawning... yeah i think we all see the problem.

simple topaz
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Severe lack of fish spawning still

quiet lynx
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Water access is spawning like a million fish on the south-west side near the cliff. The entire side is just full of schooling fish

little sequoia
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playing for several hours now, there was not one single goat ai, nor frog

tropic scaffold
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Ai is no longer controllable by server configs.

Beach spawns are out of control, game crashes due to beach spawns overloading max ai.

After about an hour other ai spawning breaks leaving turtles and crabs to rule the island.

Before recent patch it was just one spot on beach that was broken now it's all over, beaches south of sp, east of west access, north east of water access west of delta, the islands sw of delta, beach by swamps.

short locust
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deino still unplayable? no fish spawn

wide barn
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From what I’ve gathered in this section, it seems after a reset they spawn once…and then they never spawn again. I’d hop on and check real quick, but if it’s true which it probably is…my FG deino will starve again

cerulean geode
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fix deino. add more ai or remove more water sources and fix the main water sources. there are so many rocks u can drink through to avoid getting snatched and so many areas u can drink at where the dieno has to swim like 40 feet on land to even get to u. it sucks :p

spiral heart
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Please add frogs fishes & elite fishes in north lake I'm starving for the 5 time on eu6 how can we survive ! 😭

stuck estuary
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Fix the spawns and return the fish to the waters. Let's play on the crocodiles.TI_Succ

austere grotto
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Is there any way to make AI evenly distributed? This update has increased the total amount of AI a lot, but in some places you still can't find any AI, and in some places ... you can see ... hundreds of AI. Increasing the magnification does not change 0 into 1.

candid jewel
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NA 9 or 12 Please add frogs fishes & elite fish in water i started at water access almost to swamp with only seen two schools of fish then died of no food

muted zephyr
#

how did they managed to break the ai so badly?

thin thorn
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Turtles are overspawning and its taking away from other ai

novel totem
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I died because of starvation again playing Ptera because there's literally NO fish! It's literally unplayable! Devs do your thing please and fix the ai system. Can't imagine how it is for deino players... smh.

hushed pilot
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someone has a idea when the fish spawns visible or spawns get fixed?

croc is actually unplayable

glass blaze
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Fish spawns and crab spawns are either OFTEN or NEVER from my experience in official and unofficial servers.

Not sure if this is game engine related or server settings related.

shadow gate
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give ai more telagraphed and non instant attacks, it feels less viable to hunt some ai than a full grown carno as a baby raptor, atleast the carno might miss, boar just oneshots instantly

maiden basin
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ive cleared the hole swamp no frogs, no fish nothing died again of starvation. with Deinosuchus come on..

honest oyster
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Ive been wanting to play deino for a while so i decided to start playing, i start as juvi in northlake, i go all the way down to the vulcano lake, no fish, no elite fish, no frogs or anything. literally nothing in the water. its like a desert.

playing as deino atm is impossible without going on land to find something to eat, which is already impossible.

(i later finally found food (other deinos that had starved to death), just to be jumped on by a herra and die instantly)

wispy kernel
#

Has there been any response on when the fish will be fixed?

velvet wing
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For the love of god how about some ai spawn for crocs I’ve seen one elite fish in 3 days and one school of fish

copper goblet
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I wish for fish

vivid gust
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Deinosuchus is unplayable at the moment due to the lack of Elite fish & fish in general, so please, fix this problem with every bit of respect. 🙏

ripe harness
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yes as everyone's been saying please fix the fish spawns, its hard to survive as a Ptera but atleast we can somewhat scavenge carcasses but still that'd be difficult if you were not in a hotspot or near one. As all the deino players are saying, it's unplayable for them and its difficult for ptera's too, please fix the fish.

lean wraith
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Sooo i play on a unofficial sever and they descied to disable Ai due to how broke it is atmo, this is what the sever had to say about it, certainly makes serving as a carnie way harder especially Denisenko's

Unfortunately we have to remove AI until a new patch is released. There are so many issues with AI right now , some of the most prominent:

  • Most AI don't spawn
  • Up to 4000 AI can spawn at once causing major lag on the server.
unique vessel
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Fix AI fish! Fix AI spawns! Help us Deinos! PLEASE!

opal finch
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Please fish fixes. Croc's life as miserable as its never been b4

red spindle
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here I was thinking I was doing something wrong as a new player. played two deinos in the past few hours, and was struggling to find fish. Lost both to starvation, and both were over 20% grown before I found any fish.

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ivory terrace
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I realy like that the AI is now somewhat reliable in some regions but i still dislike that many regions seem untouched by AI at all times.
Also please bring back Baby AI like the small Boars and Deers

quiet void
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Let carnivores smell AI

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tulip rune
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no fish on all river is not serious for deino no survival game it's just died after 30 min please dev

unkempt terrace
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ELITE FISH AND SCHOOLING FISH AI dont spawn often enough, IF THEY SPAWN AT ALL

red ermine
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i was starving before but it was manageable now im just starving to death who evicted the ai bru

snow belfry
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Couldnt choose my spawn locations, gets dropped in swamp. looking for food and AI for an hours. Dies of Hunger.

Carnivore life matter.

stark swallow
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Fish only spawn after server restart for a few minutes, then see nothing, struggling while being a deino for a day

novel totem
#

Are the devs even looking at our feedback? It's been a few days. I know it's not easy to fix stuff over night but Ptera and Deino are literally unplayable...

lethal ginkgo
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No AI on Westrail

quiet quartz
radiant mantle
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Can we please have one more hotfix trying to fix AI? Its not in an extreme bad spot of nothing spawning but it could be much better 🙏

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wispy kernel
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I will donate my kidney for fish spawns to be fixed

nocturne bay
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Guys I think telling them that there is no ai (fish) spawning on this chat is pointless, better submit a bug report. Hopefully they read it. Been so long can’t play any water Dinos

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wide barn
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I love how I started adding this reaction to every fish ai related comment since I main deino…and now when I check back every so often I see this reaction everywhere even though I haven’t been on in a little while. It’s not even me doing it anymore it just took on a life of its own. Also the swamps east and the main one that the delta pours in are literally uninhabitable for deino…been that way the whole time I’ve played this game even before the ai broke

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atomic mesa
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Guys please submit bug reports about the broken beach spawns (hundreds of turtles and crabs) and lack of fish.
Also, families of ai with baby boars, goats or deer don't spawn anymore at all.

pseudo dagger
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Hows the ai and fish any better?

sharp terrace
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I got this game for the summer sale to be a croc and its kinda nice knowing that im not just comically unlucky with fish spawns, the only time ive seen Elite Fish spawn they spawn on the waters edge and start clipping into the ground/other fishes

bronze willow
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The lack of communication or any sort of updates from any of the admins or devs speaks volumes about how much they actually care about their playerbase. The fact that they haven’t sent a message being like, “sorry for the issues, we are working on a fix as quickly as possible.” is insane. I’m personally on the verge of just uninstalling and moving on. For a game that’s made millions, there’s not a lot of pride in its maintenance.

limber spear
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Please fix the ai fish and animals im basically dead because of no ai food. Deinos are unplayable.

quiet quartz
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I hope they don’t do to the Rex with ai food values like they did to the Deino.

strong sand
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If the devs are making Deino players pay for another copy of the game just so they can keep playing their favorite prehistoric crocodile by feeding it Maias and Stegos they AFK-grew, I’d say they did a pretty good job—because I’m really considering it, or maybe taking a long break.

rancid island
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just fix ai spawn rates already ✌️

sage whale
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just increase spawn rate of the ai pls

smoky junco
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fix ai spawns and make elite fish great again since the devs want to add watering holes and make players not come to rivers or ponds to drink so gonna need more food here

junior python
#

Day 9 asking to fix Ai. The fish spawn is dead

main berry
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please fix the AI so the deino is actually viable

quiet quartz
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Trike has no prob growing

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unique vessel
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For the love of Deino, PLEASE LOOK INTO FISH AI!

timber idol
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In my travels I have been noticing more species of fish spawning, but it is still eratic and very buggy. Not sure if anymore spawn after the first wave of spawns, or it doesn't spawn any more till server reset. Either way Got a deino up to half grown with no issues, using a massive spawn clump of fish. but if you dont find the location where the game dumps all the river, or lake ai you starve. Needs more tuning. Game needs a balance for semi and aquatic dino spawns of A.i to complement the dry period of no player kills.

sour bluff
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hello all,

Since the updated ghross we've been struggling to feed on deinos. I've lost 5 deinos due to lack of fish and I'm unable to catch any more dinos because they're too small. Increasing the fish pop in the water areas would only increase it a little. It would also allow the fish-breeding dinos to fish and deinos to potentially catch them. I did the delta river to north lake 0fish how do I feed my deino?

cerulean geode
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fix ai fish. u can see everybody complaining i would pick that problem up as fast as possible :3. when u fix the spawns adding a bigger fish to feed bigger deinos would also be sweet <3

exotic mauve
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playing deino is really hard with no fish, always dying bc of hunger

hard heron
#

the biggest thing that needs to be fixed with ai is the fish spawns it is the only good way to get food as a small deino beipi and ptera

spare crater
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@primal gyro Please fix this Fish AI, Deino has become unplayable.

safe yoke
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Hey maybe put some elite fish in the game. Haven’t seen one in 2 weeks. Stop ruining your own game ❤️

verbal current
#

deer and doe are immune to stun / stagger, atleast on maia's shove

wide barn
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I really want deino to be playable again, I miss this game. Please fix the fish ai spawn I beg 🙏🏼

tropic scaffold
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Ai is no longer controllable by server configs.

Beach spawns are out of control, game crashes due to beach spawns overloading max ai.

After about an hour other ai spawning breaks leaving turtles and crabs to rule the island.

Before recent patch it was just one spot on beach that was broken now it's all over, beaches south of sp, east of west access, north east of water access west of delta, the islands sw of delta, beach by swamps.

untold umbra
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Afk devs, read your ten billion fix fish comments and do something about it

median plank
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Maybe do a quick patch to turn down the rate that deino stomach drops... by like 2x or 3x, until you get your AI fish figured out?

winged bane
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I have spent 90% of my time hunting and eating turtles in spawn dumps as deino. I'm not dying but I also can't nest either cause I'm not even getting my dots. Deino can't be played unless you find a dump. Every server I've been to has deinos in massive groups lined on the shore for turtles. I'm glad I'm not dying but we aren't really playing either.

wispy kernel
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One kidney isn’t enough, I’ll donate both kidneys and a lung for fish ai to be fixed. Final offer

fickle saffron
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As a carnivore or beipi it feels like certain dietary ai is unfair, such as frogs, beipi and other carnivores cannot dig up frogs and theyre never seen around making it harder especially for croc to find certain diets, elite fish also have been very hard since the update aswell to find. Could it be added that certain dinos get more dietary or more ai spawn ?

median willow
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I wanted to suggest adding a small temporary fix to the game — a simple workaround that would automatically wipe all bots every 20–30 minutes. This could help quickly resolve or mitigate issues caused by bots without requiring a full restart or manual intervention.

It doesn’t have to be a permanent feature, just a temporary solution while the underlying problems are being investigated.

torn compass
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​𝗣𝗟𝗘𝗔𝗦𝗘, 𝗙𝗜𝗫 𝗔𝗜, 𝗪𝗘 𝗡𝗘𝗘𝗗 𝗜𝗧

sharp garnet
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Why are no Ai spawning I'm about to starve to death

willow rose
#

Finding AI feels impossible, used to be able to find some between 3-4 different areas now I can't seem to find or hear any until they start scuttling off from seemingly nowhere

viral scaffold
light anvil
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It’s hard to keep a deino alive with very low spawn of fish , so far two places I know they spawn and they’re gathered together (elite fish) mostly where the little ones are jumping

lean coyote
wide barn
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East and main swamp have never spawned fish really, even before this past update broke it. But people have been saying since the update they’ve swam up and down the delta without seeing any fish elite or schooling. We think that after a server reset, the spawner works one time, and then it doesn’t work again it seems atm

sleek mountain
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We need fish to spawn in properly again. The land AI’s is not a problem

stuck estuary
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Bring fish back to the waters TI_DeinoBruh

near path
#

5/10 fights dilo clones don't work.. I'm not even talking about water or rock fights, in the middle of wr plain...

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copper goblet
strong sand
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Not only in this patch, but today I would also like to address a long-term issue regarding fish distribution in the game.
Deino's spawn points are hellholes due to how infamously empty the map is. It's kind of insane to imagine a creature below 10 kg having to slowly travel 3–5 km into a complete different biome from its spawn, just to find its first taste of food in its life.
Normally, you might think giant water bodies such as the water access reservoir, swamps, or river delta are the final destination for grown-up Deinos, but they are actually death traps.
People keep saying that Deino shouldn't rely on fish, but as the image shows, you can't even keep yourself alive in this giant lake—even if you dominate the whole area.
There's just nothing in there—not even a freshly spawned Deino can find food.

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worn kelp
# strong sand Not only in this patch, but today I would also like to address a long-term issue...

That is so true. I have an 80% Deino and I can say goodbye to it. No fish for the second day in a row. There aren't even any other dinosaurs or animals in this location. The AI definitely needs to be adjusted, because playing as a Deino is more or less impossible. So far, I've noticed that the only time fish spawn is after a restart. Unfortunately, planning to play the game around the time of a restart is utterly ridiculous.
It’s just incredibly unfair that herbivores have food almost everywhere, while carnivores like Deino are basically screwed. Terrestrial carnivores are OK because AI spawns nicely on land.

stuck estuary
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It's been so long since the AI ​​crashed, but there's still no patch to fix it. Great job, guys.

vernal ether
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at the moment it is not possible to grow a deinosuchus, very well done, can u even try to make it look like u care pls. Immedeatly change the AI. spawns for fish again, make it atleast somewhat able that u can grow him to like 30% because at most u can get one to 20% then u die of starvation

vapid torrent
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For the love of god please add the ai back or increase it you can’t even play deino anymore

serene veldt
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more fish

gleaming falcon
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impossible to play deino with no fish

swift talon
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Yeah this is rough, 28% is the biggest I've gotten so far from a lucky scavenge and then I managed to find a couple of elites fish. Had to go all over to find those fish too.

spare crater
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i got very lucky in the server petit pieds to have a perfect diet as a deino in the SWAMPS. That would be impossible in officials because there's NONE in swamps in officials so i think we have to play unofficials until the problem is fixed

mild wyvern
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au servers are barren no ai at all

tropic scaffold
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Redesign AI mapping to area's and not the dino.
Have area's cap based on config settings to allow changing these caps to fit the server
Player ai spawning will still effect these area's

This will cap out issues with rampant spawning (crabs / turtles)

Allowing a more versatile ai spreadout throughout the map effected by players but also capped by the area's ability to spawn them in.

The issue with AI is the AI spawn mapping.

Crab and turtles do not despawn with this new mapping and the player detection mesh is not aligned / spread out properly, only specific spots are triggering the ai spawning.

This issue fills up any potential spawn slots which hurts fish spawning and other land ai spawning a lot.

The only reason I can see why this has not been fixed is that the devs are not aware of what the issue is but just see people saying no fish, fix ai spawns etc.

Please submit a trouble ticket for your official server stating this issue.

spark gazelle
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More AI is needed on the map or when you are at the limit of hunger an animal appears to satisfy your hunger

strong sand
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back when Evirma came out the schooling fish spawn in fix location
its not perfect but the water feel more alive then now, you know you can get reward by moving around

cold sundial
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animal spawns are ridiculously flawed

lyric snow
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Split the map in areas/zone and give them an max amount of Ai species. example: Highlands 2 deer, 2 boar, 4 chicken, 3 school fish, 1 elite fish, south beach 6 turtels 8 craps etc. (depending on size of the area do either more or less max. Slots obviously)
with this the entire Ai spawn problem should be solved because it stops overpopulate some Ai species (like currently turtles are sometimes 50+ on an 50x20m area so others cant spawn cause they fill the slots already

shadow gate
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Add dryo ai to main branch pls. It has been showcased before so I don't see why we can't get the little guys as ai. Are you waiting until something happens with AI already made? From what I have seen it's a smarter ai than the ones in-game aswell

wispy kernel
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How about fish spawns for deino? Could we hot fix it?

hollow tangle
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I'm using a map to try and find food, internet says to wait a long time in the area's for a spawn and I still don't get any food. I just keep dying unless I get lucky enough to run into another player to eat as a carno.

mild wyvern
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can the ai not be ankle breakers? and can we have either more ai or bigger ai please

ivory terrace
vernal ether
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i have been hunting for over 1 hour in almost every river part from north to south, not a single AI spawns, wtf are the devs even doing, like u cannot tell me that its purely luck that u find a rotting corpse just to get over for 20min, pls do something or this game will die out ffs

its not possible to survive and get even close to juvenile this just a massive skill issue from the devs, they should be fired in my opinion

(i can literally take meth and crack with an overdose, and i have more of my life then playing this garbage)

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shadow cradle
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Just came back after not playing for a year, I've starved to death 3 times in a row as deinosuchus only seeing one school of fish when I spawned one of those time, of course I was full though and didn't need them yet. It was cool being eaten by the one elite fish that I saw though. Tried staying in spawn area, also tried heading down rivers. Searched he swamp. Nothing. Offical and non-offical. Ill be back when you fix the game again but can't play it in this state.

wispy kernel
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Hey how about a hot fix to fish spawns? 🤷🏼‍♂️

mild wyvern
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can you put a minor pause on the new stuff and maybe jus focus on the ai forra sec its clearly a massive problem across the board and alot of us feel that it would help massively in player pop and fun

past flame
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I was gone for a couple months and I am so not surprised you guys did not fix the AI spawns. You have all these new things but despite that the players are begging to not die as something as stupid as starve. Come ON DEVS. Get your priorities straight because your games going to die off if players can't even get to full grown to enjoy the content you like pushing out without fixing anything else

raw yarrow
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I would love if we could get fish spawning in the water instead of boar and rabbits...

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young smelt
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I think that there is a very large issue with ai. it seems concentrated to crabs and sea turtles on the beach, no matter what dino is around. I have tested spawns in many areas, even in highlands I am unable to find boar or deer. goats no longer spawn where there are mountains and grasslands, and fish hardly spawn in lakes for deino. this is creating a huge hot spot area in the sp beach and alongside it. it's very unfortunate because even deino is becoming more saltwater, not being in streams, in most areas you can safely drink to your hearts content as a carno or cerato. this is inflating their numbers I would say as well, as they can pick off raptors from the beach easily, and then go up to the highlands to drink. it's become somewhat of a death match for survival for carnivores, which is not what I enjoy. I've tested herbivore spawns for food and they are perfect, and as intended, but with lack of spawns for carnivores, it's also more difficult to control trike populations. if a carnivore is going to camp beaches for food, they are less likely to find a young herbivore of any kind to hunt, and with the most popular being trike right now, they are a deadly and bountiful population. thanks for hearing my analysis, and please know I rarely come on here to complain... it's just gotten very bad, so I hope you find a fix to this! have a good one.

smoky sable
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I feel like some plain ol’ permanent fish spawns would help a lot and wouldn’t break anything. Add enough, and there wouldn’t be any camping issues either. It’s just bizarre when the most populated water ways on the island have zero fish.

That, or add a foragiable food source for carnivores, like CLAMS. Something that would just keep all but the tiniest guys barely alive, like Grazing, but specifically in sand and mud rather than grassy fields. That way even Deino could keep itself alive long enough to actually hunt other players.

I’m gonna keep saying it.

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noble zodiac
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WE NEED FISH!!!!

gray island
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the AI distribution, on top of being super low, is uneven as heck rn. there's basically nothing in places like northeast pond while west rail and access are relatively plentiful (west rail beach is currently the only reliable spot to find turtles). also, i hardly ever find AI in patrol zones? that's where they SHOULD be

median plank
wispy kernel
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How about a hot fix to fish spawns? 👍

zenith bolt
little sequoia
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What happened to the sanctuary mushrooms btw. They are not respawning. You have to leave the zone way to early because everything is eaten and not spawning anymore

lofty furnace
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by any chance, will we have more ai added? not only fish, but deers, boars etc, north lake dead, highlands ai no near lake, west rail hard also, w access too. Herbis has no problem with growing since they have a lot of pz, as a baby carni or solo player its hard to kill something, turtles i saw only in one spot. No balance between herbi and carni in food at all, carni became harder af.

sleek mountain
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Fix all ai but mostly fishes or you can delete deino from the game

quiet shadow
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Some trouble I have is, that there should be more spots for schooling and Elite fishs. Especially that they show up as the nutrient symbol while scenting. Talking for Deino. For Ptera as well. It's impossible to find chicken, frog, hare etc. if they don't even appear on my scent radar.

atomic mesa
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Fix all ai, not just fish.
The turtle and crab hyperspawn is eating up all ai slots in any server.

night star
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I think you need to add more schooling fish I had to fly around the hole map to fined one as a bird and they have a hard time flying or getting around as it is and when you spawn as a bird you lose food very fast so I just think they need more schooling fish to fix that I have died of starving to death more times then I can count

raw yarrow
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fix elite fish, the only spot with consistent spawns is east swamp.

worn kelp
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Let me tell you a joke. Four Deinosuchuses in the water, one Gallimimus and one Tenontosaurus by the water. What doesn’t happen? That’s right — fish don’t spawn.

wicked axle
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Sanctuary mushrooms give herbi full diet. but nothing similar for the carnos? baby deinos cant even eat elite fish, they'll kill you, how about schools of fish adds to baby deino diet.

proud gorge
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  1. Fix fish (PLEASE)
  2. Make it so that when herrara is in a tree ai cannot spot it so they may actually have a chance of surviving
  3. Please :D
round seal
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Just lost a full grown long standing Pteranodon. Thought Turtles might be spawning more generously then fish. I was wrong.

Fix fish, and crabs/turtles.

thin geode
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hear me out, release a hotfix for fish

quaint forge
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guess ill just keep saying what me and the whole community have been saying for weeks now FIX THE FISH SPAWNS!!! Its actually insane that its been this long and not one message from devs no wonder its been in beta for almost 10 years.

faint hinge
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Fish seems to not scale with player quantity on servers. (Atleast on officials)
Whether there's 1, 10 or 100 people on a server the same total amount of AI spawns. Additionally they seem to usually spawn near players.
Keep in mind this is from very limited testing.
When in an empty server, I get hordes of AI, because there's nowhere else for it to spawn. I assume Devs threw in an AI quota, and told it to just "spread out evenly between players" but if there's 1 player on, wherever they go AI will spawn around them.

misty patrol
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This fish spawning situation is frustrating

dull dove
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yeah cant be that hard to change a value in the code. of course this could have a massive performance impact on the servers. It would be cool to hear from the devs stating a reason ai fish spawn has not been changed yet. (I am a long time Isle Evrima veteran. got the game last sunday)

lofty furnace
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I repeat, I don't play deino (because I'm scared after the update) fix the fish, but not only that, normal ai too, definitely:)

young slate
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27 days since no fish

hazy shuttle
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its absolutly impossible to grow a deinosucho, if ur smart u can reach about 80% at which u will no longer be able to sustain urself without consistently killing full grown deinosaurs, as juvi's dont give enough either

clear shard
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i think AI for fish in water access is alot better now

ember dust
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What is the actual AI Spawn mechanism? I don't quite understand why it's a problem. Can't you just place spawn locations / timers / counters throughout the entire map and simply... let us hunt? Only allow X spawns for the entire map. Whenever one dies in a spot it picks the next 'last' spawn zone that hasn't been utilized and spawns it there?

Just seems like an easier handler for the spawns / if servers increase pop they can increase the count. (don't need to worry about tracking players if you're doing that)

blissful cipher
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give us more crabs and frogs

lone fern
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Devs please just try to grow a deino on one of the populated official servers. Im fully convinced that if you guys play the game you dont touch deino at all. Just actually listen to the community and fix the fish and frog spawns.

scenic kayak
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Fix literally any ai spawns in swamps. Fish, Boar, Deer chickens. It's a baren wasteland that you have to run 30 minutes out of to find actual food. I've spawned there 3 times this morning and 3 times I was starving by the time I got out, and dead by the time I could hunt.

cloud ermine
# clear shard i think AI for fish in water access is alot better now

I've seen like 10-15 schools of fish going in the concrete floor parts where you can't reach them and have to wait for them to slowly come back, that was 3-4 days ago, also went 3 times around the whole water part up there in about an hour today and saw exactly 0 fish, even in the spots I saw elites getting stuck a few times, no schools no elites.. starved to death.

Same thing in north lake and swamps, only got deino carcasses that starved before me to feed on.. Saw I think 2 elite fishes in 8h+ in delta too, 3-4 schools, so it's not like it's a get out of spawn situation.

A week ago I feel like it was better, got 3 deinos to 60% + growth on ai alone in swamps and water access although I did log out every time ai ran out, at least there was some. My problem is that we're too small to grab dinos early on so I stay in spawn areas where ai seems slightly better and grow a bit before migrating but.. in 10 hours of deino play today I've starved 5 times before hitting 40% growth, and that's with finding my own 1.2 T deino corpse.

lofty tusk
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Havent played this game in a month and could almost keep a fg denio alive off of ai fish but this past coouple days ive died from hunger with a 30% below denio. Tell me how that makes any sense. Devs, from every denio that plays in your alls servers, please fix ai spawns so we can somewhat enjoy playing a croc when opther dinos dont want to come near big lakes or rivers 🙂 Thank you!

wide remnant
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I was about to complain about how hard it is to catch a rabbit as a 700 hour ptera player but Fix Fish spawns!!

full flume
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Animal/fish AI spawn bugging in a Hardcore survival game is as impactful as bosses despawning mid-fight in Dark Souls, or oxygen not regenerating in Subnautica. Please at least acknowledge that youre aware of the importance of the problem and that you´re working hard to hotfix it.. Im trying my best not to complain, I love the game but at least let us know that you´re aware and doing everything possible to fix it cause most of us feel like its the last thing on your to-do list even if it´s not.

lean bear
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idk what is going on with the AI but set it back to before until its fixed becuase this is horrible dying of hunger not finding anything to eat for multiple days as a baby you cant kill anything (deino) and as a petra.. WELL AS A PETRA YOU CANT KILL ANYTHING trying to grab a rabbit is impossible as the person above me stated.

I've waited and waited as deino in one place what used to spawn fishes but even that doesnt work no more.

please HOT FIX this mess

lofty osprey
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Over 1 month without fish, we do miss u ❤️ TI_Succ

mild owl
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Can't find any fish as a gator.

gray island
# smoky sable I feel like some plain ol’ permanent fish spawns would help a lot and wouldn’t b...

this new "fish ai only spawns in places where players have recently been in the water" system is doubly nightmarish when you spawn up at northeast pond or somewhere nobody has visited in a hot minute (or if the server is currently quiet). spawn points should have at least one or two reliably stocked spawn points for fish in their respective bodies of water, even if they aren't particularly close to where you spawned - knowing there's more than likely SOMETHING around to keep you going would make things a lot less painful

winged mesa
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i have been sat in the water as a herra for almost 30 minutes. no fish. there were fish here just the other day
(edit: my prayers have been answered by.. a single fish. i will survive the winter yet.)

simple saffron
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Devs just put back the old code, it was perfect, why destroy something good

sleek mountain
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Fix ai’s make the game playable again

craggy egret
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The growth of the deino is impossible, due to the lack of ai fish, I am condemned to starvation.

humble locust
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love how herbis literally cant starve but deino is locked away in a corner with 0 fish ai spawns

lean bear
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you think deino has it rough? petra... PETRA is the worse since you cant kill anything and you gotta scavange but if no one is killing anything... you just die of hunger.. PLEASE HOT FIX THIS ASAP IT HAS BEEN MORE THEN A MONTH OF BAD WATER AI.. land AI no problem but it has been just unbareable to play as petra these days

wide barn
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Deino is currently guaranteed to starve, fix your fish ai so I can play the game again

novel pendant
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It's hilarious how they put in small puddles, so no one drinks at the lakes and rivers etc. anymore. Now the land Ai drinks to give Deinos the chance to catch something. Fun fact, the land AI has wall hacks and flee when Deino comes not even close enough to get the chance to catch them.
So all that and then no fish AI spawning is unbearable for Deino players. A so popular Dino is kinda unplayable for nearly a month now. I absolutely don't understand, how they don't fix that ASAP.
I did the experiment of growing Deino at two officials, one with always full players and a lower frequented one. I hadn't survived when my friends didn't play emergency food. Even with me creeping from one popular place to the next. It isn't like I want to be well fed by fish AI but I also don't want it to be necessary to be a canni to survive. What btw even now is hard bc no one wants to play Deino.

cerulean hollow
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found out about isle evrima and deinos, re-downloaded it to play deino in evrima, played it and starved since i couldn't find any fish or food outside the water. ts isnt a one time thing either, it happens every single time i play deino

shrewd belfry
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the fish spawn is outright hilarious at the moment. I've died multiple times to starvation. Just simply because of there being no fish. Then I respawn as a baby in East Lake (the worst place to spawn in as or grow as a baby Deino). To find 2 elite fish and probably 4 standard AI fish waiting for me. To not have the swamps and delta at least having some sort of semi consistent spawn times is killing this game for anyone wanting to play a Deino.

dim pagoda
#

Guys please fix the ai, its really unplayable rn...

lean coyote
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Dieno literally unplayable rn because of fish spawns....

Can we also see some attention the dienos absolute garbage NV. Before I was actually able to see but now half the time my screen is just pitch black

sour barn
#

as a deino its very hard to survive

dim pagoda
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DEINO is unplayable rn no fish etc.

sharp quarry
#

AI Fix urgent

full oasis
#

How is AI not fixed for deino yet? Thats a simple patch.. Just dont understand considering the timeframe

safe yoke
#

Yea been asking for a deino fix to the AI for about a month now! Maybe next summer I can play deino again!

lone fern
#

Ocean ai could be cool, a little incentive for a saltwater deino and maybe help the constantly starving to death issue

modest heart
#

Elite Fish just teleports out of existence when chasing it towards the shore as Deino...

empty minnow
#

I don’t know if this only happens to me, but well, I play this game since 2019, on legacy and I never had many problems on finding sources of foods as a carnivore. When there weren’t many players, a trike (I believe it was this Dino) would spawn and you could hunt it to not die of starvation. Now, I started playing again about a week ago, and I couldn’t get to 100% growth not even a SINGLE time, all that because of the complete lack of food, I never found a single AI no matter the Dino I was playing with, I know that you’re not supposed to only eat AI, but you are also not supposed to die of starvation EVERY life because of the complete lack of meat.
So please, if you’re not gonna make AI actually spawn, just make it easier to find them.

lavish zodiac
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Fish be gone

frank crater
#

Breh how? Not 1 fish in the entire swamp?????

novel hatch
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fish don’t even exist guys wdym you can’t find them 🤣

cerulean hollow
#

Fish, frogs, turtles and crabs don't respond. If I clean a lake of fish they don't respond resulting in starving.

coral vessel
#

70% grown deino, have not seen 1 elite fish 🙂 Not sure why the focus on the game seems to be new content such as maps and dinos when the basics of the game i still broken, and has been for a long time. There is no incentive to play a carnivore while the server isnt full.

stoic flame
#

Surviving as pteranodon is rng 😦
fishing not working

fluid gyro
#

they really have to take care of AI for small servers

spawn points are also broken, no one has a chance, deino doesn't really have anything to eat

quaint oxide
#

Have been playing for days now and not a single fish anywhere so im just starving to death over and over

half herald
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Fish/frog spawns need to be fixed asap

versed crystal
#

can we please get a fix for fish and frogs, this is my second day playing and ive not seen a single fish or frog while playing the croc

lean bear
#

i am finding alot of fishes last few days but they all have weird spawns like in this picture or they have like alot of fishes in one place (it where like 6 or 7) was flying through the swamps breaking my heart becuase i was flying with food in my mouth atracting 5 baby deinos starving to death. I think alot of new players will stop playing this game thinking they can only starve to death.

also i seen a few fishes spawn in the swamps but all in really hidden places where all the small deinos werrnt.

I aint sure if i need to bug report it or if i need to put it here. but i've seen more fish lately but still need some tweaking since its really rare and i fly so its easier for me to scout whole rivers and area's then land or water dinos.

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toxic hamlet
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BOOST FROG, CRAB, TURTLE AND FISH AI

frosty jay
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So for AI marinelife Maybe have different concentrated areas. For example some places where they are known and active spawns such as swamps, lakes and inlets, and then more randomized areas in the rivers and ponds in between. Though for the concentrated areas they can still be limited so if they are overhunted they will take longer to respawn

As for the others maybe have things like deer, boars, and goats maybe have them be in herds or small groups so they can supply a food source, hell maybe even have em follow herbivore migration routes to try and give more player on player encounters.

Another thing that would be amazing would be more visual/environmental clues that your near or in an area with AI, hearing antlers colliding cause of fighting, fish eggs, nests, burrows, something to let people know and think "oh this may be nearby" and animal tracks (If they arent already in)

wise pier
#

the last time i saw a turtle was on spiro, and i play the game quite often

plain salmon
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For the past month haven’t seen fish as a croc plz fix asap

late moat
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Can we get some work done on the AI there's so many issues with them. The lack of AI on officials servers has driven me to unofficial only. The barren Swamp. The threat detection should be tweaked was much better on Legacy, be nice if we could sneak up on AI like in Legacy now they have eyes in the back of their heads. Lack of small AI for juvis. Where the dino AI at? Rex gonna need food. Compy animation were perfect at one point with the exception they didn't actually eat the corpses then that went away. Can we get AI spawns at the port I miss Dock Raptors.

pseudo sequoia
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make locational ai for each area for example a hippo ai with baby model for swamps and east for deinos, barys, suchos, and spinos. But make it pretty strong to give players a high risk high reward for growing dinos.

sick solstice
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I dunno what's going on with ai spawns but I hopped on after a couple month break and starved to death twice in a row. Didn't even hear a single ai the entire time.

barren geode
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I spawned in the very southernmost swamp as a Deino and almost made it all the way to the very northern lake with only seeing a singular "normal" fish in the rivers/waterways/lakes/etc which disappeared from existence when swimming toward a shoreline.

Only saw 1-2 of the small fish schools which kept me from starving before getting to northern water area by the dam and dying to a larger Deino who was also likely starving due to AI spawning being nonexistent. Something is very broken with AI spawners.

modest scarab
#

I was playing the other day and a deer kept spawning on the other side of a river and getting stuck cause it was spawned in between 2 rock spires 💔

grizzled vapor
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Make Fish spawn more often, or Deer not able to see u when clearly underwater or when there back is turned. ❤️

rigid mirage
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Do Turtles spawn in 100 times less, it is literally nothing on the map just turtles on south beach

stable tusk
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Render Ai distance is to close, making it impossible to see or hear them unless you are basically on them. Increasing the distance they render would be beneficial for everyone.

lofty mist
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Buff IA spawning, finding food is getting hard for carnivores

lavish belfry
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Hotfix disable turtle spawns for the official servers until the next patch. This fixes land AI and puts turtles back to normal amounts.

little sequoia
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i feel like the ai spawnrate droped again. please increase it

late moat
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Even when the fish spawned the food amount given is over nerfed. Also food bushes need to be buffed with larger food amounts for large herbivores like trike and any sauropods that come in. You don't even get to enjoy a full eating animation as an adult it's tap eat button and gone.

whole notch
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Youve created a wonderful swamp its really stunning,... id just love to not starve because theres not a single fish in the whole area....

pseudo sequoia
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another locational ai for the highlands or vast plains could be a bison or and ox that if threatened would charge you and if your small enough break your bones, but they would not pursue you just fight you off, and would give lots of food to whoever would kill it.

dull vigil
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The combination of events listed are destroying deinos.
1)water drinking bug where you hold e until the head touches water then let go and hold e again to then be able to drink water on land.
2) ai can see you in the water even if a player couldn't see you. Effectively making it so deino have to go on land and herd the ai into the water. Even then the ai will run straight into to you sometimes to not go in water.
3) lack of any consistency with schooling fish and elite fish spawn.
4) Bridges conveniently near every river.
5) No land Dino activity near any of the deino spawn locations.

These collectively make me want to quit play deino even though there's nothing more that I want to do in this game than play deino.

tardy haven
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PLEASE SAVE THE DEINOS, SINCE THE LAST UPDATE ITS BEEN A PURE STARVE SIMULATOR PLEASE

lavish belfry
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AI seem to all be interconnected in a way where if one thing (this patch its too many turtles) breaks, it affects the entire chain.

Separate AI by type. Land, Shoreline, Aerial, and Aquatic. Limit the number of spawns based by type (300/200/100/200), rather than as a whole (800 AI). This way if one breaks, the others theoretically will be less affected or not affected (shoreline turtles should not be overspawning and limiting land taco spawns).

Also tip for unofficial servers: disable turtle spawns. That seems to reset them back to normal and fixes the other AI. Fish are still broken though sadly.

dim pagoda
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Worst ai ever seen in a game...

toxic hamlet
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Food chain is broken bro, means no circle of life, only death circle of ptera's deinos and whatever need to eat fish, crab, turtle or frog

umbral wigeon
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Yeah so I was really excited to play this game as a Deino until I realized that there is literally no food in the spawns anymore... I hardly ever see elite fish... and all the big prey are in areas that are essentially inaccessible due to the lack of food. Lame

urban sparrow
# urban sparrow Quick Ptera Feedback After the Update (Full Steam Discussion Linked Below) Hey ...

🦖 Ptera Update & Feedback 🦖

Hey devs and community — just wanted to post an update based on the last month of playing!

I've taken to the skies again with one of my all-time favorites: the Pteranodon — and I’ve successfully raised 20+ in recent weeks. 🎉
This is largely thanks to better AI spawn rates, especially fish in lakes and rivers. Massive thanks for that — it's made Ptera playable and actually fun again.

That said, coastal areas are still a problem. Crabs rarely spawn and are super hard to spot from above. Feels like a high-risk/low-reward zone right now.

🔹 HUGE WIN: The addition of Psittacosaurus!
It’s the first AI I can actually hunt from the air — spotting them in open fields and tracking via their nests finally gave me that “death from above” experience.
Honestly, this made the aerial gameplay feel meaningful again. 🙌

🔊 Also, storms aren’t blowing out my eardrums anymore — thank you for the audio improvements! It’s much easier to focus during bad weather now.

🛠️ Suggestions to Improve Ptera Even More:

"Eagle Vision" or Scout Mode:
Give Ptera a way to visually highlight AI from above — like a pulse, outline, or heat signature. Spotting prey while flying fast or high is almost impossible right now.

Better Visibility of Small AI (Chickens/Rabbits):
These are super hard to hunt in flight. Maybe use something like Deino’s “splash vision” mechanic — detect small prey movement with a shimmer or ping?

lean bear
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hey i wanted to say í've been seeing some more fish lately but they all spawn at the same spot kinda hidden away but i am seeing some improvements but thats only from today with 30-40min gameplay because earlier i was for like 4 hours in a lake with nothing spawning in.

ashen carbon
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Traveled from water access to south plains as croc, i saw 1 singular school of fish, not a single elite fish, how are we meant to get past 25% growth?

modest nexus
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traveled from swamp all the way to north lake no elite fish at all

shadow gate
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Make fish spawns random aswell as spawning next to people who touch the water, it's a barely functional system anyway and just straight up doesn't work for ptera since they don't enter the water meaning you can barely catch fish as a creature that relies on them as it's main food source. Low spawns don't help

dusky sky
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Just ai that’s alll I ask besides Pter stam regen changes but dev pls more ai

inland path
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I am trying to play a Deinosuchus and am finding 0 fish. Where do I need to go? I started off in the swamp and then heading north searching for them and died from starvation. What am i doing wrong?

wide dirge
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Dying of hunger over and over again bc there arent any AI/Fish in water, tried east swamp, swamp and westlake.

lean bear
#

one grabbed me and now is drowing me but i aint dying nor drowning and i feel like i am too big for them to eat atm... so now i am stuck with all kinds of ai surrounding me

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fresh vigil
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Pls, fix the spawn for IA. It's unbelievable going everywhere and not finding nothing to eat...

frosty flower
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My feedback after 10hrs of solo gameplay today: In 6 runs as a Deino, i´ve died from cannibalism because everyone´s trying to delay starvation by a minute. In those 10hrs, i didnt find at least one single fish. Pls fix this.TI_DryoFix
Love and good night

tropic bobcat
#

As deino you go into the water and shortly after the schools of fish appear now nothing happens no matter in which pond was yesterday 5 hours in the eastswamp not a single school of fish spawned

severe stratus
#

There's no crabs, no fish, no frogs. Troodons(juvs), herras(juvs), pteras and deinos are crying. Only deers and boars can spawn sometimes and somewhere, but goats also have a problems with spawn

proven dove
#

give me ai fish spawns 😭

modest nexus
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i refuse to play until AI is fixed i have just starved to death on 3 raptors in a row didnt see a single AI once

blazing pewter
#

increase fish spawn on all water and make that ai can't detect you from underwater and increase deer and boar crossing lakes and rivers

shadow gate
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Add insects asap. It would solve the issues with small juvie carnis starving before they can find a chicken or frog to eat

ashen carbon
#

Traveled from water access, to delta, to swamp, to south plains, I found 1 SINGULAR school of fish, 0 Eite fish, how are deinos supposed to grow, the only way i survived was cuz my friend starved to death and i had to eat him

tidal vapor
#

let Ai spawn Near Carnivores like in Legacy or let them be smellable or trackable by foot prints

earnest sparrow
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need more elite fish in rivers and swamps so hard to see in swamp its so black as a croc

median willow
#

I raised a denosuchus without seeing a single fish...

vivid nymph
#

i just did half of that without a single fish had to genuinely catch a deer. where are all the fish?

crimson shadow
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I played Deinosuchus, didn't find any fish or AI whatsoever got a tip to get saltwater mutation and look for turtles, did that and right when i started to starve i found 3 turtles my stamina was almost gone. I hit the first turtle and it started to slide away. And now my question is How is a Turtle faster then a damn Croc (Walking) i starved to death trying to catch up with no stamina

fair galleon
#

I joined a 5/100 official server as ptera. In 30 minutes I spawned about 11 clusters of fish and 12 elite fish in North Lake alone. But even after 2 hours, no frogs. Why dont frogs spawn anymore? Why do i spawn elite fish as ptera when i cant eat them?

valid scroll
#

We need some way to track ai other than purely sound

Maybe ai on your diet occasionally leave behind dung or any sort of mark you can smell? Just anything

heady nest
#

19/100 player no food walking for 30mins

dull hollow
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noticed more fish spawning, including elites on certain NA servers. Not sure if a hotfix was deployed but I was happy this mornig on my deino 😄, 8 schools and 6 elites spawned within an hour when i logged on, only deino in the lake too..

restive gull
#

There have been a series of fish nerfs over the past year. Coupled with the presence of four mutations that allow dinosaurs to literally not go near fresh water, and the presence of a huge number of safe drinking points, it is not clear how to play Deinosuchus now.

dull hollow
calm dawn
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Just lost another fa Deinosuchus due to starvation. This ai sucks and the devs who don't care about players complaints, as well+

last spoke
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the amout of times ive died to starvation crossing the entire map looking for food as a deino is WILD

pseudo dagger
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Hey hows the ai doing I haven't played in like a month due to it and I dont wanna spend 20 minutes for it not to work please lmk especially about the fish?

bold stone
shrewd tapir
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Different regions of the map should have an "amount of animals here" counter that would regulate how many of what AI spawns in what region of the map. It'd just be a simple integer value, programmers sure know what I mean; AI should of course only physically spawn when a player is there. Regions' animal count would then reduce by one per each of those animals killed, and slowly replenish over time.
The idea is that AI shouldn't just cause extra lag by mostly spawning where there's already many players carnivores can hunt; they should, eventually, be most abundant where the amount of players is low, incentivizing migration to less overhunted areas from time to time, and making it so players don't all clump up in the same region of the map everytime (the general consensus by players right now is that everyone is in either West Access, Highlands or South Plains most of the time while the eastern side of the map dies of boredom or starvation, which pains me).
These AI counts should show up in the Diets/Growth Tab for all carnivore players. Moreover, the same system could be used for spawning plants for herbivores; likewise incentivizing migration in a realistic way. No food cuz everyone ate it? You either decide to chase rivals off your territory so it doesn't happen again, or you migrate to another zone.

Example of how it could kinda look in the Tab menu:
Carbs - Boar - Swamp (40), West Rail (30), Delta (35)

naive saffron
#

Deinosuchus nation want fish

naive saffron
# naive saffron Deinosuchus nation want fish

But seriously Deinosuchus has been in a very frustrating position here. Our croc nation really need some fish ai real quick. due this situation. It really been hard to play, Not talking about my own skill. A lot people including one of my friend. We have conversation about how difficult Deinosuchus been. Not just me but several people facing this kind of starving and lack of food

thank you for the space and sorry about my english. it's not my first languageTI_DeinoBruh

carmine steppe
hoary plover
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Please fix fish spawn. Sincerely starved deino x

inner rover
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As fixing fish seems to either be taking a long time or a low priority, could we temporarily give crocs the ability to dig out crabs like beipis do? It wouldn't give them much but at least would prevent starvation

dapper oxide
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most unofficial servers these days are opting to do body drops and corpse clean ups every now and then due to the no ai issue.... Still horrible to deal with though

narrow shuttle
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Plssssssss fix the infinite spawning of crabs and turtles + we cant disable crabspawning 🤙

vast grove
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AI are not spawning when i play carnivore. pls fix
-from Ari, who has the blood of 4 baby Ceratosaurus on his hands

fickle spoke
#

How long has the AI been like this? im a new player and i was ligit screaming about the fact i cant refund, and i walk across the entire map without a single marker on my radar. Zone icons only, maybe a water diet icon if im literally knee deep in water already. Seriously unplayable. Unoffical servers are just spawning goats on your position periodically. what a joke. Why would anyone play this over Path of Titans

wide barn
#

Months at this point, still no word on whether they’ve even realized it

brave grove
#

Just buff ai spawns

brittle silo
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Fix the fish spawns devs, it's like playing starve simulator for Deinosuchus

quaint cape
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no fish both species no frogs no baby deers/boars at all.

grizzled dagger
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no fish spawns for Denio at all spent hours and multiple days in almost every spawn and outside and nothin

pulsar flax
#

I have a idea for 2 new kinds of Ai one on land and one in the water
For the land Ai it’s a bigger land animal than the wild boar/boar it’s a steer/buffalo that can defend itself okay but not that can kill a cerato but can damage him a bit so that there is a better food scours ai but we do have to limit there spawn rate so to make 3-5 buffaloes to spawn per hour.
The water Ai is a hippo that can kind of hop around in the water for the bigger deinos so they can have food that not only gives them 3% of food from fish or less

unborn wagon
#

can you respawn some fish in north lake? im here in this giant lake and not even 1 single fish... looks like an atom bomb killed everything and the contamination stops them from respawning... its so unfun

tacit copper
#

Look I'll give you this, land AI is the best it's ever been not too hard but also not too easy. But water AI is nonexistent which it seems pretty easy to fix even though I don't have experience in coding. And on servers Petits Pieds all AI is nonexistent so maybe make a server option towards the whole more players less AI.

muted cove
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Fish AI Arowana (Swamp , Lakes , Rivers)
Fish AI Arapaima (Swamp, Lakes , Rivers)
Fish AI Onchopristis (Ocean, River)
Fish AI Dipnorhynchus (Ocean)
AI Horseshoe Crab (Beach, Coastal)
AI Ammonite (Ocean)

uneven fog
#

FIsh has been so broken, for so long, what are we doing here?

wary summit
#

Idk man, I don't know if it's necessary to say it in another language, that por favor, no sé qué está pasando que vamos 2 meses prácticamente con la IA rota, y es infumable la situación

median rover
#

Another month, still no fish. What are we even doing here??

warped pike
#

honestly if there was a way to make the land based ai visit water more often to make them a chance for deinos, that would be cool

dreamy pond
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In light of the AI dibbles, there should NEVER be a species that’s both AI and playable on the same server. It only creates confusion for players of that species as it makes it extremely frustrating to find herdmates. And really, the isle excels at player interaction, the game needs to be structured around encouraging player interaction, and not making what is essentially a single player game where other people are just optional.
AI dinosaurs are not a bad thing, but they shouldn’t be of species that are also playable, devote specific AI species if that must happen. Like there shouldn’t be ai dibbles, but Styraco? Perhaps

halcyon adder
#

Fix the fish Ai its unplayable

wind kiln
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Fish need to be fixed, dieno is already stumped by all the safe drinking holes, at least let there be fish.

carmine steppe
shadow nacelle
#

i was on the river that goes to the delta, my deino started starving, and guess what spawned near to me? a deer. so yeah, it basically forced an aquatic reptile to leave the water and chase a land animal. nice joke

bitter sail
#

the hoard test frogs move at LIGHT SPEED. would love them to move at a normal froggy speed

regal flare
#

How about replacing the diabloceratops AI with lisowicia? I haven't found any information yet on whether they were herd animals, but there is information about their semi-aquatic lifestyle. That is, they could be prey for both medium and large dinosaurs, as well as deinosuchus, which barely survives on fish.

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gray island
#

extra AI should spawn in migration/patrol zone areas, so carnivores have more reason to check them out (as opposed to just going to the parts of the map where the AI are most likely to show up and staying there)

tropic lodge
#

Live AI should be detectable with q. That way a carnivore can actually reliably find AI food that matches their diet.

severe forge
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AI should give off a scent to carnivores within range. Example: They could give off a ? symbol when first encountered. If you sniff out 25 boar you then learn what a boar smells like and instead of a ?, it'll give off a boar symbol so you know what your're hunting. This will solve carnivores only being able to hunt AI by sound which is impossible unless you know where they spawn and it'll give players incentive while they're growing to learn all animal scents, instead of afk growing.

heady orchid
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Make ai spawn rates higher when playing Pteranodon. Why have most of the diet ai if sea turtles only spawn in mudflats and fish spawn rates are around a 'maybe'. Having a spawn in water access is terrible, there is never any fish and it takes forever to kill anything as a fresh spawn in west rail. And get rid of pterodactyls steal food. If a robin doesnt steal from a hawk then pterodactyls shouldn't steal from a Pteranodon

willow vine
#

Crabs and Bullfrogs should give more food to Gali, it doesn't need to be a lot, but they give so little food that its barely even worth the effort to hunt them, only providing 2 or 3% food. Upping it to 5-8% food and diet would make it more viable as an option. Gali doesn't play like an omnivore it plays like a herbivore. Long the same vein would like to see Compy added into Gali diet, to give it more omnivore type options.

olive juniper
#

Elite fish on the Horde testing just hold you in their mouth forever when they grab you and don't kill you. Literally need to wait for starvation.

severe forge
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AI spawns need to be higher across the board if a new smaller more travel efficient map isn't being made. The current map is too big with procedurally generated terrain and flora which makes it hard to navigate or pinpoint AI spawn locations which leads to walking around aimlessly hoping to hear and AI sound bite. This and the current food and water drain, map size, and lack of AI makes the game miserable to survive. I understand the devs want to make this a hardcore horror survival game but at the end of the day this is a game and I'd rather not spend my free time playing a walking and starving simulator.

dawn forge
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There should be bigger AI's for bigger dinos
Let's say, for example, the croc. Elite fish are not enought to fill a sub-adult/adult croc. Maybe adding something bigger that provides at least 5% of hunger would be nice. But that AI only spawns to Subadult and Adult crocs, as I suppose younger ones wouldn't be able to hunt it.
Sometimes, even tough you might be on a hotspot water source, there isn't enough players and you end up starving. So to avoid this, might be good to add another and bigger ai

shadow gate
#

The ai situation is actually doing well now, the only issue I have it that there has STILL not been dryo ai added, instead we got dibble AI for some reason

winter sandal
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Increase the distance from which the player can see ai to the same distance a player can see another player, it is not fun being able to hear some ai and still not being able to see them, ai move differently than players bruh and don't even get me started on their weird behaviours (I will not cover their behaviours today)
Oh yeah right, I forgot to add: remove ai ESP too if that is possible, because that sure is one hell of a way to ruin immersion

mighty adder
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AI is extremely inconsistent and largely absent from the map.

north mesa
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I have been playing for hours and the most of ai i have found is a rabbit. There is literally no ai!

boreal patio
#

slowly watching your juvie deino starve to death because not a single fish will spawn has to be one of the worst experiences in gaming

plucky edge
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I think all of us would really appreciate AI being fixed before the next update. Like, actually fixed. Spawn behaviors and navigation need to be adjusted. Elite fish get stuck in or under terrain, and schooling fish (once again) are phantoms flying around in the sky.

This isn't just a Deino issue. A lot of smaller carnivores are completely helpless to hunt larger AI for themselves, and their hunger drains quickly. If you're not lucky enough, you'll find ZERO AI anywhere, in the water or on land, and it's just a "Starve to Death" simulator. Sometimes you're TOO lucky, and you'll find so much AI that carnivores hardly need to work at all to grow. I've found many Rexes sitting on their butts doing nothing for a good 30 minutes, because there's deer everywhere they walk.

It's a problem, not just to feed the smaller bellies, but to even have players interact with each other and the map.

torpid nest
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Hordetest AI is slow and seems to spawn on cliffs a lot

obsidian hill
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i love the new dibble ai, only thing i've noticed are when lots of them spawn it can cause some bad lag or a fatal error crash. also noticed they only seem to spawn after a server restart. with some small changes it could be perfect. definitely like the direction of ai dinos you guys are doing instead of farm animals as a main source of food.

hardy pewter
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can we put an end to elite fish glitching thru the banks of a waterway and into the water under the map where they can never be caught?

granite scroll
#

hordetest

on HT NA4 - East and foraging for bullfrogs as galli. once unearthed, they zoom away impossibly fast before you can do anything.

smoky sable
#

THANK you for adding clams to the game!!!! You know what you need to do next, right?

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warped gazelle
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@DEVSSS Ive now died for the 8th time to starvation in 3 hours, Fix the AI. Im finding herbivore plants like crazy but cant even get a chicken to spawn. There is a HUGE difference from Evrima. Ive done nothing but run around the entire map and im not even able to find a dead body. Hell im not even able to find rotten meat or bones. LITERALLY NOTHING. As of right now, NA3 is completely un-playable as a Herrerasaurus, EVEN with Efficient Digestion Mutation (Selected as soon as i spawn into the map).

sacred jolt
#

just have ai respawn in set places on a timer like WoW does at this point, whatever system you are using does not work

naive sand
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New HL is sick, wish there were fish in the lake so I can grow once I get here

stray dagger
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diablo spawn in delta get's camped alot and there only place i seen them spawn would be nice to have them spawn randomly around island instead of just one location

icy timber
#

maybe spawn 1 or 2 ai on hordetest

spiral osprey
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Weight AI spawning using growth (and maybe dinosaur type). Usually, adults and sub adults are expected to hunt other players to get food. That's fine, but many juveniles rely on either scavenging food from abandoned kills, or AI spawns because they can't effectively hunt other animals yet (unless the other animal is juvi as well). AI should ideally spawn slightly more often for juveniles than adults, to make getting food easier. Additionally, the spawn mechanic could also take into account species - adult pterodons for example are still extremely reliant on AI, while perhaps a juvenile apex should be less reliant on AI than others due to its risk/reward payoff

severe grail
#

So, noting this for AI.
Spawns aren't entirely consistent as many others have said. Sometimes I get more food than I can ever eat, sometimes I starve to death after searching around everywhere.

One thing that may help (in addition to having AI spawn more around younger carnivores) could be to have the AI show up when you are sniffing the air.
Maybe it doesn't give an exact location but gives the player at least a general idea of where it is, and then they can hunt from there. It seems like AI have set spawn zones but none of those zones are inherently clear. Additionally those zones seem to be very, very sparse leading to everyone congregating in the same places.

I also recall in the original version of the game that AI was a lot easier to find since you could just f call twice and they would call back. While it was no walk in the park it at least made it helpful for hunting.

faint chasm
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Improved Audio for AI Vocalization

I feel that the AI calls (Deer, Boar etc) would benefit from more nuance when sounds interact with the environment. At the moment there does not seem to be much difference between a Deer bellowing fairly close to the player and one that is at long range. This makes locating it difficult. The trees or rock cliffs do not seem to have any muffle effect on the audio. We can hear an AI on the other side of a building or rock wall with the same clarity as if it was in the open. The spatial information is good but the sound interaction with the environment could be improved.

While I was thinking about how to explain this, I spotted this YT video about a paid plugin for Unreal Engine that is being developed. It is intended to give better audio cues through Software Ray Tracing and is worth a watch to see if it could be of benefit to the game in the future... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6EuAUjq92k

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rough scarab
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I've been playing this game for so long. Then you guys came up with this not-so-great idea with the new AI spawn. When you played as Deino, you starved to death the whole time. So you put the game aside and played it again after a long break. And it's still the same garbage. Tell me, do you even listen to what the community is telling you? Or are you just too limited to get a handle on it? If I don't see a single damn fish in 10 hours of playing as Deino, then I guess I have to eat the nasty grass? Now get your act together. This is just unbelievable.

sacred jolt
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ai boars can run down baby troodon and there's nothing they can do about it if there's nothing to jump on... revert the baby troodon speed nerf, or nerf boars so they aren't terminators that never stop chasing you

wise cave
#

bad AI system, swamps are trash as well

nocturne coyote
#

Ai system is great, However once the dibbles stop spawning . I have to hunt deer with my rex for 2 hours. Which are also eaten by other rexes. I keep having to log and wait for server restart to keep my rex alive.

compact haven
#

More AI please. There's never enough no matter where I go.

thorny matrix
#

We need a better fish Ai, or more fish as Ai added?

restive quartz
#

So I just had a boar track me (a new spawn) through a thick cement wall, then chase me down after it found the open gate 30m away.....

dreamy pond
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Please isle devs… I beg of you… DO NOT implement playable species as AI.
To clarify what I mean, for whatever species is implemented in game, it can be either playable or AI, but it should NEVER be both. When this is allowed to happen, players just get confused with who are players or AI.
One of the best things I’ve learned the isle excels at is player on player interaction, and I really want to see that prioritized more. AI playables hurt this, because they make it difficult to discern players from AI. This ultimately makes forming groups a nightmare, and also makes combat less engaging, cause let’s be real, AI is more often than not easily exploitable and easier to fight than actual players (also less fun).
AI as a whole is not bad, but there should only be dedicated AI species, not AI dibbles, or tenos, or carnos, or Omnis, or Rexes, etc etc. Please prioritize player on player interaction.

buoyant verge
#

On HT, AI Gali display all 3 nutrients on the scent bar after you do the organ removal move. however, aftr consuming all of it, only the lipid nutrient increases. has happened on 5 Gali in a row now

cursive notch
#

Remove the dibble AI at delta or make it so the spawns are in dynamic locations. Saw a pack of 10 rexes subsisting off the dibbles alone.

coarse temple
#

need more ai , for deino... in this patch its imposible play with us, no fishes , no dinos , implement to.ai , go drink in rivers and lakes ... play deinos its imposible!!!

scarlet ether
#

Why is there no fish ai in HT?

slow iron
#

There is like no fish anywhere. Plz fix spawning so they spawn all over. Like not just on 1 place on a massive lake…

mighty adder
#

The dino ai on HT is just perfect, TY!

lavish belfry
#

A potentially healthier way to balance dino AI in the ecosystem is having all dino AI start out as a fresh spawn juvenile just as players do. That way if the dinosaur goes unkilled for a long enough period, it hits adult or frail elder, and provides more food, but isn't such a consistent and large amount of food that spawns over and over again. Otherwise the ecosystem will too easilly sustain too many large predators when it shouldn't.

willow vine
#

Visited the beach area to the west of south plains/west rail, on Hordetest NA 3 and 4. On 4, there was a good amount of turtles and even a few crabs. On 3, there was nothing, at all, stayed there until I starved to death trying to find something. AI seems at best highly inconsistent, sometimes there is more than I could eat, other times its like trying to find a needle in a haystack. I know being able to keep your diet/food up is part of the challenge, but today I spawned in 3 times and starved to death three times in a row not being able to find any food (Herra on Hordetest NA 3). Of those three lives, the only AI I found was a single school of fish, which I was then chased off of by a deino I was luck to hear coming. Being able to scent AI might help with this a lot, I know this has been suggested a lot, but try finding a frog in the tall grass as a Herra or Troodon by sight and sound alone is near impossible.

late moat
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When the HT started within the first fews days AI was plentiful. Now I can barely find anything and having to rely on cannibalism just to survive. It was fun when there was AI to eat but now the game is just a miserable experience. I've brought this up many times here but the ai can detect players way too easily as if they have x ray vision and start running before you even see them has been aggravating. With the exception of the dino ai they don't seem to notice you until you bite them although I have only seen one ai galli since I've been playing. I think I'm going to play other games until the ai gets fixed because playing starvation simulator is no fun.

flat isle
#

The experience is much more enjoyable when there’s plenty of AI. You get to experience the environment in a calmer way. Right now it’s a stress and frustration simulator where you spawn in, run around for a couple of hours, and then die of starvation. So more AI is definitely a winner

timber idol
#

The A.I should spawn in there respectable zones which at current they do not the A.I should be around the map not bulked in locations so you have to move the dibble should have set spawns in there habitats. Turtles and crabs should be on every beach as it stands there is only one place to get crabs and one place to get turtles. The constant changing of the map every hordetest whithout messing with the locations of the Ai is exaclty what started the drought in fish. Start of horde test the a.i plenty was great just location spawing needed to be changed now its like there is none. Soo I don't know who is in charge of this but the constant up and down does not constitute a great experience with challenge.

radiant mantle
#

....I wonder if compys will ever come back.
They used to be the best starter food, specially for troodon.

manic rover
#

I noticed that the AI dibbles used to never spawn more than once unless the server restarted. Now after a few of those updates, the dibble herds are spawning at pretty respectable rates and makes it actually viable to hunt without being a canni as a more adult rex.

sacred pollen
#

Am I the only one who thinks that AI should be tied to MZ/PZ locations and then some odd ones here and there in a forests. It would encourage people to move about the map. As it stands right now moving away from the hot spot means certain death to the starvation monster.

solar knoll
#

On hordetest, AI spawn seems to be very abundant at server restart, a huge amount of boars and deers everywhere. But after a while, it’s almost like they just stopped spawning, and there would be no AI anywhere on the map for hours

feral hatch
#

Small AI is barely existent or easy to find.

Crabs and rabbits are silent.

Compys only spawn if a corpse is present, and only rarely.

Frogs and chickens are only found with luck.

And if you go to places where you expect them, there are none.

Like on the beach, there are no crabs.
No frogs by rivers.
No rabbits or chickens in the meadow.

You follow the rules of where you should find food without getting anything.

They're nowhere near as good at finding deer or wild boars, which are more common, louder, and easier to see.

unborn wagon
#

How long does fish AI- need to respawn? I spawned in a lake and got lots of fish but now the lake is empty for like 5 hours

tiny yacht
#

I don’t know if I was just unlucky but it’s hard to survive as a juvie beipi on hordetesting. No mushrooms in sanctuarys, no patrol zones, no fish spawns. I starved several times before I made it to survive on non-diet bushes to 50% growth so I could dig for crabs.

keen kiln
#

something is wrong withh all AI on HT. AI is respawning only after server restart and maybe after one hour they stop respawning..

frail laurel
#

Please fix AI spawning, easy fix is to wipe the AI every 2-3 hours because after that time they barely spawn if at all. I believe they are glitching out the map and becoming unreachable and never despawning etc...

lavish belfry
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https://medal.tv/games/the-isle/clips/l3jlpwZFquPGG5Hkz?invite=cr-MSw3aFUsMjM4Njc2Njkx&v=94

Its not perfect, but this is already leagues more immersive than chasing chickens, deer, and boar around. I'm very excited to see where AI goes if you guys can get it to cooperate!

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tidal vapor
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Two Ideas Idea 1 Let Ai like Bugs spawn in Sanctuary to feed carnivores, let Ai spawn Specifially in Patrol zones, Let Ai Spawn in Migration zone. Idea 2 Increase Ai amount but let them Despawn after not being nearby a player for a while. and give them a complete Wipe after 2-3 Hour to prevent Lag by Ai

severe forge
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Tacos need spawns at river delta and highlands in HT, they are currently slim to none, there should be spawns in every grass field on the map.

keen kiln
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i was 40 min on HIGHLANDS AI didnt respawn once... i have all recorded, i died bc of that from starvation on my 90% prime elder Rex.... great gameplay..

obtuse flame
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WE NEED ai better spawns for people like big dinos (trex and others) cant find no one else, people leaves the game and wait for a server restart to just get ai pls try fixing ai spawns ! (in hordesting)

burnt onyx
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The Ai has some problems in Hordetesting. After server restart, there's plenty of Ai respawning in the first hour, more than needed actually. As time passes by, Ai starts respawning less and less. On the third hour after server restart, there's no chance you will find any kind of Ai.

Basically, each server restart, you have 1-2 hours to feed yourself with Ai because after that, in the next 6 hours, you HAVE to log out and wait for the next restart.

I'm playing Rex and I'm adult (about 70%), there's no way to feed myself, except when the Dibble Ai respawns and that's seriously unbalanced.

About the herbivores, I guess they have food everywhere because they come out in the open only when they are Fully grown. I know it's Hordetesting but Ai is not working as it should, and about herbies, give them less food spawning points or something so they actually have to move around the map and have to face Carnivores.

unique wigeon
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Please for the love of god weaken the boars or make them not turn so fast

unborn wagon
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80% deino died because no ai spawns D;

sand ginkgo
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(Hordetesting)
Noticed boars are now impossible to hunt as young omni... Can detect you behind them immediately, can rapidly alt-turn to face you and make it impossible to pounce, and they appear to damage you on contact from all sides, potentially two-shotting anything in quick succession. So even if you are quick enough to sprint a circle around them and get to the back end or the side, they still somehow are able to bite as soon as you get up to them and you teleport directly into their face. My ping is very low, mind you. No rubberbanding, no latency, nothing. This is purely the boars being monk class and able to just easy-kill anything they can aggro towards... Which is most everything that needs them to grow. Making them a preferred meal for small carnivores was a choice. I've encountered three boars as a starving omni and all three have managed to pirouette in place the moment I get within sprint range and proceed to eat my face in less than two seconds.
Solution...? I dunno, make it to where the AI isn't PSYCHIC anymore? I'm glad the spawn rate seems to be fixed, but by the ancestors, finding literally anyone on this map to group up and at least land a single tap on one is virtually impossible as any species it won't run from. Making it to where AI (this includes those deer that will hyperdrive away from you as soon as they notice you) can't detect your presence a field away like they have a radar will at least allow juveniles the ability to get one hit in before they either outrun them on infinite stam or instantly spin and go Randy Savage on their jugular. I feel like the only AI that wouldn't need any modification is the slow little taco, and you have to be in a very specific area to find them... I found a dozen taco nests after following calls, dug them all up, and zero tacos. Also mysteriously haven't seen deer yet, and saw one (1) goat in the last three days...
...Also, patrol zones are back to doing nothing again. No spawns. None.

cobalt tartan
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Just one thing: maybe remove rabbit from the diet of Dinosaurs that are not capable of catching it. For example: How am I gonna catch a rabbit at supersonic speed on ground as a ptera with super limited stam and the missing ability to Run after it? I mean I could fly but since its movement is so random and sudden its almost Impossible to hit it during flight, also very hard to keep it in sight. I only was able to catch a few because they ran into a rock and got Stuck there for some time but I dont think its the purpose of ai to only be able to be catched when bugged. Make rabbits catchable for ptera or remove them from their diet. Maybe replace rabbits with the clam, who still has no place in the pteras diet. I think the clam would make a perfect replacement for S nutrients!

ripe jolt
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The Isle Deinosuchus Struggle

Understandably, this should be one of the most difficult species to evolve and maintain since it is the game's current Apex Predator.

Despite of that, the fish/frog/turtle spawn are incredibly low making it nearly impossible to enjoy the game as a Deinosuchus.

My last 10 experiences as a Deinosuchus:

  • Spawn, roam for 1 hour, not a single fish/frog/turtle sighted, die to starvation.
  • Spawn, roam for 1 hour feeding from lucky findings, dying to another starving Deinosuchus.
  • Spawn, dying to a fully grown Deinosuchus because well, there is no other food around for him to be pleased.
  • Spawn, roam, reaching 50% development and once again die to a fully grown Deinosuchus.

I mean, obviously the fact that fully grown Deinosuchus are found throughout the Isle shows us that it is still possible to thrive as one but those are the 5% of the Deinosuchus playerbase that made it through cannibalism and pure LUCK. The remaining 95% of the Deinosuchus playerbase are pure masochists that simply are driven insane, logout and never comeback playing as Deinosuchus in a near future.

Please, I beg the devs to really consider on simply fixing the AI coding for the game. I'm not asking to make Deinosuchus survival a piece of cake, simply asking for the devs to fix the water AI spawn.

Consider this and maybe me and other people like me might consider playing the game again.

PS:. I've also published this on a Steam's Discussion thread where multiple people are at the moment discussing it hence devs might consider also checking it in order to have even more feedback regarding the issue.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/376210/discussions/14/600788619628940058/

The Isle Deinosuchus Struggle :: The Isle General Discussions

Understandably, this should be the most difficult species to evolve and maintain since it is the game's current Apex Predator. Despite of that, the fish/frog/turtle spawn are incredibly low making it nearly impossible to enjoy the game as a Deinosuchus. My last 10 experiences as a Deinosuchus: - Spawn, roam for 1 hour, not a single fish/frog/tur...

wicked frigate
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This is controversial and will probably get down votes, but hear me out.

At the moment on the normal horde testing servers, there's a lot of imbalance in the ai, there's Galli and dibble ai, both major food sources to the rex, which encourages people to play rex because as of now, rex at an early stage is a better Carno and Raptor hybrid. Why would anyone play anything else besides the time it takes to grow a rex? 10 full grown rexes in one spot is... Weird in terms of balance.

No AI servers on the other hand, seem to be a lot more healthy because players rely on players, you often see every playable being played all around, and managing to grow a rex feels like an actual reward and a majestic sight to behold.

This still creates a lot of problems for the smaller tiers, so I suggest the following:

Add small AI servers. Which only allow chicken, frog, crab, rabbit and other small AI to spawn.
Or once the technical server issues get resolved add more player slots in servers, would go a long way.

feral hatch
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Gives Troodon the ability to dig up Compys.
Galli can, and they don't even like eating them.

Maybe also frogs and crabs by rivers and beaches.
These are the few AIs you might be able to hunt as a juvenile.

warm hound
nimble jewel
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Maybe allow goats, deer, and boars have the same or larger broadcast distance as the psittacosaurus

merry wagon
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Can there please be more AI spawns in the Highlands? I was there for almost an HOUR with absolutely no spawns at all, running around the entire area. The entire 2 hours I was on EU3, I only saw 3 deer, 1 boar, 1 taco and 1 fish spawn between south of South Plains all the way up to Highlands.

inner fable
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I've seen a couple elite fish stuck in terrain/rocks. Not able to attack them when stuck

modern flicker
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Played ptera the last couple days and success is purely based on luck.
Barely any fish spawns, rabbits and chickens are way too fast and rare.

feral hatch
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Chicken AI
changes the hens to roosters.

Louder call, more visible with colors.

It also makes more sense for them to run up to you and attack, since that's more typical of their behavior than of hens.

clear meadow
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Clams for PT in HT doesnt give any diet yet. Id suggest give em S diet for Ptera.

frail laurel
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6 month ago, fish and almost all AI spawned normally even till the end of restart. To me it's crazy that herbivores plants always spawn regardless of location, players around, etc....

It's fine if the herbivores are migrating and actually moving around giving player carnivores chance to find food, though this is completely up to the herbivores choice as they can literally sit at river delta in a bush and get all 3 diets.

Please just revert AI spawns if anything if they are not broken cause it's kind of crazy you have these Apex herbis not starving lol.

willow vine
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I think most of us can agree the swamps can be a bit baren of life sometimes, which to me always felt off as swamps should be teaming with life. I was thinking Anaconda's/Pythons would be a good thing to add, they could come in various sizes, smaller ones could be hunted by beipi's/herrera's, with the larger ones being hunted by deino's, plus any other future semi-aquatic/water adjacent playables, and they could only spawn in the swamps, making it something unique to the area and give people a reason to visit. Plus as an added perk, soon as AI pythons get added the discord will see 10 times the number of "Titanoboa playable when" post, something I'm sure the dev's would enjoy.

smoky sable
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I’m not sure what the plan with AI Dinosaurs is, but I agree with the general sentiment that AI shouldn’t include playable species, just for clarity (accept maybe Avaceratops for chaos).

On that note, every time I see the turkey on this mug, it reminds me of Dryosaur. Wild turkeys aren’t typically puffed up. They’re actually pretty smart, flock browsers that can really heck you up with their kicks if they feel like it. It would fit surprisingly well to have large island turkeys as the AI Dryo analog.

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steel iris
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I would love to give some feedback on AI but I simply can not find anything. been wandering for 3 hrs now and nothing. no deer, no boar, no nothing.

I get that interactian is what the devs want but cmon give me at least something every once in a while...

cerulean anchor
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I personally don't mind there being ai herbivores. But the ai spawning in general is not working , or is so low that it feels broken.

frail laurel
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Make all land AI come drink water, give Deinos chances to catch land AI. IDK maybe every 20-30 mins have them get thirsty and drink for 1 min.

split stag
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it's bewildering to me that we're adding not only diablo and galli AI with full organs, but an entire herd of them that respawns so rex's can megapack and rule servers. I would preface by saying remove dinosaur AI entirely but thats another post for another time lol. please 4 the love of god remove the cheap AI dibbles that make rex growth a walk in the park, and a living hell to anyone who doesn't have friends that can defend them in the AI dibble area.

steady drum
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Not sure if this has been called... I can't get any herbi food spawns for galli on horde-test. Tried a couple servers. I can with other species even if I can't see the PZs.

graceful crescent
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I've played Omni on EU 4 - Central for the past week and been roaming pretty much the entire map since I took every spawn the game gave me.
Yes AI is spawning around the map, but scarcely and nothing even came close to the plethora of AI that could be found at "Forks Plains" right above "Delta".
Just smelling once your entire compass lit up like a christmas tree with diet symbols. Dead AI everywhere, in fact so much AI that even the up to 3 rex families I saw there and all the crocs in the water wouldn't even touch them anymore.
It feels like dibble AI spawns there or at least funnels into that area. I've only seen 1 dibble AI somewhere around "South Plains" if I remember correctly, but like 30 plus at "Forks Plains".
Obviously this makes growing apexes there extremely easy since they don't have to go out and hunt anymore or even have to compete over food, which should definitely be the case for rexes and deinos.
Really needs some looking into.

gaunt jackal
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Playing on HT on NA4 today. Everytime I have run into AI dibble as a deino the rag doll is buggy (cant grab when prompted or not prompted to E or G), Twice the game has crashed "Fatal Error" when trying to interact with them.

latent yarrow
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Frogs on HT (the only 2 that I've managed to find in 12+ hours as a ptera) are running/swimming around at lightning speeds, would also love to see their spawn rate increased around the riverdelta and swamp again. Back to what it was around a year or so ago. I find chickens and rabbits more than I find frogs, and rabbits are silent for petes sake. I used to be able to fly to swamp and find a frog either in swamp or the southern end of river delta in under 5 mins. Since about a year ago I barely ever see them.
Also, trutles.... I only ever see them at the beach southwest of west rail access. They used to be all over. Spread them around a bit and lower the spawn rate so only 2 or so can spawn within a certain distance from each other. There's always like 5 or 6 rolling around on that beach at any one time.

humble gorge
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Over time a lot of AI are spawning under the ground or inside trees, i think thats why there is way more AI after a fresh server reset, and waaay less after the server has been going for a while, since the underground AI is taking up more and more AI slots (hordetest)

smoky sable
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I am beyond stoked that we actually have clams now! My only complaint is that I would like to see MORE clams!!

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clear meadow
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Pls let Clams give Ptera S diet

winter cave
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Since we know Ai herding is doable ingame, can we expand it to chickens? They are social, flocking animals that thrive best in small to medium groups. This would also make them a more reliable food source for small-smedium carnivores

half mason
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No ai spawning on EU 7

slow iron
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I think you guys fixed the fish spawns!!! At least excellent spawning in east lake. Thank you!!!

pulsar flax
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Can we please stay as the modern animals for Ai and not dinosaurs Ai make the dibble Ai a rhino or a buffalo and maybe ad a hippo for swamps for crocs and that’s it now you have confusing things like is it real or fake dibble or galli

brisk rock
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Not sure if feedback or bug but this goat was absolutely insane

red kettle
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if you dont fix the AI spawn close to players. Atleast make stationary areas where they do spawn. the dibble herd seem to spawn in the same place. make it the same for example elite fishes in ponds or rivers. etc

shadow apex
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If you are going to have dinosaur Ai like dibble, make them actually play like a player.

1: They shouldn’t z walk and should trot instead.

2: have them follow paths to their migration zones and go for water occasionally

3: varied groups from 1-5

pastel grail
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Fish is absolutely not fixed, 100% stomach to dead on a 72% deino starving looking for food

timber idol
pale mural
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AI should have a death timer. This would help fix stuck ai or glitched, having them die on their own would also help with the "cant find ai". and would also help clean up any ai in glitches or ones that spawned in inaccessible areas for 90% of the roster.

red kettle
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Haha what has happend to south coast beach and east coast? zero turtles spawns 😂 . all the rexes are killing themselves. ( west coast is working splendid). i am salt water croc and i saw zero turtles from, estuary veir. however rexes that drowned themslves kept me alive.

turbid trail
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More ai spawns in general so carnivores arent cannibalizing each other to stay alive

torpid nest
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NA1 seems like the AI is working again GG dev’s

honest lake
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the AI on EU2 are bugged. The tend to gather at this location. -154,256.859, 228,674.024, 22,073.883

lavish belfry
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AI functions to fill in the ecosystem where players can't. I have also noticed a much more diverse dinosaur roster in servers with no AI, which was very refreshing and I wondered how we might get both that and keep AI.

As such, perhaps consider tweaking AI spawning behavior to only fill in "gaps" present in the environment. If a lot of creatures are present in an area (or are overpacking), make AI spawn less as they can sustain off each other more. Thus, if there are less players to interact with, AI should conversely spawn more frequently to fill gaps.

Finally, make AI more difficult than the average player to deal with. This will act to encourage player on player interaction more than AI dependancy, and improve the game feeling more like a hard-core survival

copper goblet
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AI Dibbles & Gallis only serve to stagnate gameplay & should be removed ASAP

real lily
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love to spend 10hrs growing a rex and cant find any ai anywhere big rex packs everywhere so no food. but no worries i only play 2 hours a night while my kids sleep

red kettle
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You could even add spawn locations, like the dibble herd. but for fish and turtles. spread out over the coasts, that trigger every 15-20 min. i had to log out from my 67% deino because i could not get any food on EU2 HT. or just have like in legacy, when you reach below 50% a AI will spawn in your proximity. you have good game here, just solve this AI issue.

hushed violet
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AI rex and trike so they can fight

feral hatch
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Crabs should spawn in groups of 5. On the beach

There's barely any meat on one of them.

vivid flower
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Ai dibble makes Rex players form mega packs and have no care in the world about their stomachs. I say remove ai dibbles so there’s a more diverse roster other than just full grown Rexes running around

lilac radish
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Fix AI spawns on the horde test, if you go on any AI server, NOTHING spawns. You can search everywhere at anytime and something only seems to spawn at the server restarts or in-between crashes. It's completely ruining the PvE aspect of the game and making survivability as a solo player, or anything that requires a lot of food to be completely screwed. And make them spawn in areas with not a lot of players, why? I've noticed on the no AI servers the eco-system is a lot more diverse because of the lack of food. My hopes is that if an AI system like this is implemented, more player dense areas will have less AI, but in return, a more varying eco-system. And in low dense player areas, juveniles and small stuff will be given an opportunity to grow in a PvE environment, with the smaller threat of mass amounts of players gathering to one localized AI spawn point, opposed to with the threat of mass amounts of players gathering to one localized AI spawn point and making growth nearly impossible for juveniles and other solo players.

pulsar pebble
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I don't know if dilophosaurus clones are considered as AI, but I noticed that when I ran into the water, the clones didn't start swimming but continued to run in the water at the same speed as on land, even though there was enough depth for them to swim.

crude plank
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On the note of AI galli and dibble, I suspect they were implemented to ensure enough rexes would grow to maturity for proper testing. While AI galli are rare and fast enough to be a good addition to mainline evrima, I'm sure the heatmaps are showing what the dibble spawns have done to player density and species variation. There's something heartbreaking about seeing nearly thirty rexes sitting around waiting for the dinner bell. I think it's important to the health of the ecosystem that large carnivores are forced to hunt other large players for food.

red kettle
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You need to fix AI spawns on Hordetest. i have now done two separete journeys with salt water deino. in the first picture i found my first turtle at the cross.(i eventually starved at westrail the only place with decent turtle spawn). So i decided to try again and see if this was a fluke. i kid you not, not a single turtle on the entire journey from south beach. I also would like to add on normal evrima on a unoffical server with 250 players, south beach is vibrant and filled with Ai life. but here all the coasts is like a baren wasteland.

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surreal bloom
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The AI spawning in Hordetest is bugged. Sometimes, even if you camp at the fixed AI spawn points until your hunger depletes, no AI spawns. Hope this gets fixed.

cedar crown
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You don't have the correct AI appearance card right now, but there is a problem with them.

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shadow gate
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put clams on ptera diet for later

serene blaze
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This game is in a terrible spot rn, Why is there MZ and PZ if they aren't gonna spawn AI. Walked around MZ for 2 hours, found/heard no AI then died of starvation. Loosing a 12 hour rex is the worst feeling specifically if you loose it to hunger. Make the AI spawn 10 fold and/or fix the broken mechanics that you haven't for multiple years. Stop working on stuff that nobody cares about. Every month we get dev blogs of the team working on Bugs and human structures(NOT GAME BUGS, Bug AI). Fix the game and accept criticism. I've read thousands of feedback messages and I'm wondering why this is even a tab because you don't listen. OPTIMIZE, your making a game for the consumer to enjoy so listen to the consumers. Doesn't take long of reading in this tab to see that people want optimization. We wanna see this game be the best it can be.

tender remnant
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Deino is having an issue picking up dibble AI but rexes seem to be able to do it perfectly... not sure what can cause that but its really bad lol

manic rover
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Good news everyone! FISH EXIST! They just swim through the mesh so you can't get them.

manic oriole
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interesting how when there are little to no players u get more spawns ? north east lake, official evrima server btw

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strong sand
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It’s kind of funny how chill Deino players on HT have become.
most of them only log in right after a server restart or crash, just to grab the dibble buffet ( if a Rex happens to be nearby, they’ll just push it into the water ,if there is no rex to help you out? congrats you have to log off)

on my way to raising my Deino to elder, I’ve run into more Dryo players than elite fish.

gleaming dawn
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE fix the fished on Official servers there is LITERALLY NO more fishes since the last update! Please fix this. Everything I like to play needs to eat fish and I die of starvation the entire time PLEASE I BEG YOU GUYS!! This made me so negative about the game 🙁 and its sad cause I like the game but this just makes it a bad experience for me 🙁

dire sedge
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baby ai

other ai seem to spawn fine but baby ai has seemingly disappeared

buoyant bear
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i can never find AI food, it’s kind of annoying starving all the time needs to spawn more frequent

median willow
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here's a fish

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heady orchid
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If you are a juvi carnivore then baby animal ai's should spawn

I am sick and tired of spawning as a raptor or a dilo and get killed by a boar. Or have a deer run of to oblivion. I dont know if adding more code to ai is good but there should be something for the baby dinos.

P.S Can we please get a herbi sanctuary dino. Maybe Hypsi or Dryo (we have troodon for carnivore) but having a herbi almost guaranteed live there give more reason to go there and find food

feral hatch
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AI should only chase and attack you if you attack them first

cerulean hollow
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needs higher spawn rate as for many players they just starve as there are barely any ai

tough aurora
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To the developer who work with AI in The Isle:

A lot of changes need to be done with AI.
Here are some examples of how things can be improved:

  • Make AI spawn only nearby carnivore and omnivore dinos. There is NO point animals to spawn if there are only herbies. This would reduce the amount of resources and also less stress to the server. And also this will be a hint to all herbies - if AI spawn nearby - that means predator is close.
  • Make fish spawn only to deino, ptera, herrera and beipi.
wide barn
tender meteor
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Sometimes Ai (evil boars) will camp spawn areas, which is very annoying if you are a slower dino that can't outrun them, or if you are loading in slowly..

Some people are losing entombed dinosaurs because of this.

frail laurel
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Fix Fish please... Literally see every elite fish take off like they all evolve and grow wings as soon as they spawn bro what is this...

steel iris
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AI spawns are terrible. There are some spots on the map where you might be lucky but walking for 30+ minutes without any AI should not be a thing...

cerulean anchor
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Can we have the ai make noise? The amount of times I may have passed possible food may attribute to just not knowing they spawned 20m from me and ran off.

slow escarp
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Suggestions to the developers. 1 - The ocean ought to have fauna and flora. 2 - Land carnivores and omnivores ought to be able to catch and eat fish too. 3 - Default spawn volume ought to keep players from starving to death. Thank you for your consideration.

slow iron
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Fish keep spawning in the air and under the water map…

unborn wagon
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so I grow a deino over 8 hours. I start in North lake- terrible spawn. i go down to delta and died nearly 4 times. i have to do cannibalism 4 times because (ofc) no AI- Spwans. I go down delta. No AI- I go up delta.- No AI. I go down delta. No AI- I go up delta.- No AI so 5 hours wasted being cannibalistic because there are no fish spawns. literally a river should be full of life and not dead like an atom bomb exploded there 5 years ago. I ate more deer than fish and now I died because literally no AI/food on a full server. And the weridest thing is. evry single day it has to rain so you see even less sh*t. plsssss change something or let deino smell fish idk

slow escarp
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Deinos cannot be easily brought to full grown on AI alone; as apex they need so much food. Did you miss opportunities to ambush players?

latent yarrow
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elite fish, goats and frogs all moving a crazy fast speeds. schooling fish STILL up in the air and under the map, Turtles only spawning in general area of the map (winding beach near west rail) when they should spawn at serveral different beaches across the map.

hasty trellis
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Deino has very little viability for achieving and maintaining a perfect diet, let alone even a great diet. AI in the rivers and lakes is incredibly scarce, and only barely covers deinos diet. Attempting to traverse for the most part leads to death due to being too young and incapable of self defense. Deinos should get decent access to AI that can cover a perfect diet, and even with some struggle would be fine, but it is currently almost impossible to grow a deino solo.

feral hatch
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Why should Rex even have crabs in his diet?

Even as fresh spawns, they get almost nothing out of a crab.

And if you're lucky, you only get about three on one beach.

fickle prawn
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Make special fish for ocean or make turtles able to swim in ocean so you have a bigger reason to go there also it would make absolutely sense that deino for example can smell fish or that if he smells he gets a notification if there is ai near or not so that u dont stay if there is nothing, or more general make ai just work, and to say that real crocs can survive without food for months so it would make sense that u dont starve so fast as deino

round seal
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Yes, put turtles in the ocean, let small playables ride on their backs, like a scene from some 1980s unmentionable animal film.

red kettle
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AI SPAWNS SPECIFICALLY FISH AND TURTLES. two pictures of my path without turtles. quite literally 90% only exists in west rail.

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jolly raven
sand ginkgo
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Goats are currently the best things ever. They have no animations, shrink and grow randomly when chased, leave dibble footprints behind, and proceed to turn into helicopters when you pick them up... My sides hurt. lmao
For real, though... Things I'd like to see fixed on AI:

  • Spawn rates fixed for things like tacos, goats, and crabs.
  • Boar's detection, movement, and attack rate fixed so it doesn't ESP you fifty feet behind it, spin like a ballerina to hit you from any point on its body, and rapid-fire attacks that would one-or-two-shot any fresh spawn juvie.
  • Bleed on deer being so high, and for some reason can bleed forever before they drop or leave spawn range.
  • ...I don't know when's the last time I've seen a compy, but I miss the little buggers. I think it's been since like, almost a year.
silver hill
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AI fish perfectly working 👍
i had to rejoin, i was out of its jaws. Now i went back to it, grew a little bit. He couldnt eat me back then, but now when i was bigger he can...

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sleek elm
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The spawnrate for all ai should be increased significantly. In like 5 hours of playtime today I've come across one singular deer and that's it. Ended up starving as a baby rex bc I found absolutely nothing

winged bane
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When deinos have to hunt boar there is a problem. Please give me fish 😮‍💨😮‍💨

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viscid fossil
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Emm... idk how to explain but.,., i jumped into the swamp as a freshspawn rex, now an elitefish is carrying me through the whole swamp but i dont lose health neiter do i lose O2. idk if thats a onetime thing, but that might be a thing.
Hordetest Eu3 No AI

wide barn
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Think it’s a bug, when the fish swallows a player it’s supposed to kill them. But if it glitches you just get stuck inside the fish indefinitely because the game still thinks that you died

winter sandal
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Elite fish should not swallow players, not because it's anything realism related, but because it's simply not fair and completely useless to EVERYONE, imagine like idk, spending 20+ hours grinding a deino to prime elder several times somehow only to entomb and get spawnkilled by an elitefish, nobody gains anything from this, remove the mechanic, and the way they spawn. No negotiation. This has to change.

last hornet
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Can the Ai Diablo herds form a circle when they feel threatened? Kinda like yaks do, only breaking the circle when attacked

native adder
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So I had I thought about AI. Deinos are very dependent on Fish AI. By shouldn't all AI be programmed to want to come take a drink from the water every now and then?

cerulean anchor
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Just had a 56% Rex get chased down by one of the broken infinite stamina Dibbles and killed after breaking away from the pack. Make them have a leash that keeps them near their herd, or give them a pool of stamina for god's sake.

tiny ice
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Perhaps land AI could use a change in the way they react to players. With fish being scarce as a deino, it sucks starving when you hear deer or boar all around but can't touch them. Doesn't matter how quiet you move or from what angle, or even underwater, they know you're there and immediately move away. A line of sight or maybe noise level requirement (walking vs running) could give deins a chance to hunt them.

cerulean hollow
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When I’m on Trike I can touch water and make fish appear like I’m God. But when I’m on Ptera or Beipi I could sacrifice my first born and they still won’t appear. Seriously, they never appear but will for my Trike within seconds to a couple minutes. I’m not sure why herbivores spawn fish when they don’t eat them. Maybe reverse that? This was on HT by the way.

sleek elm
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Please add fish and other aquatic AI to the ocean around the island, give it more of a purpose than just slightly faster travel for anyone with the saltwater mutation

wispy kernel
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Month 2 of not playing the isle because no fish spawns. Lmk when the devs care again!

candid mortar
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WHERE IS THE FISH SPAWNS LIKE FIX THAT OMG.

lyric pine
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Outside of Dibbles and Fishes AI, there is a serious need to review the algorythm behind land-AI spawns.
It seems that as of now, AI mostly spawn when a player stays inside a same specific area for a few minutes (and of course, it isn't always accurate).
The AI spawning mapping is terrible, as they all spawn on specific spots and never on the others.
You can roam the edges of the entire map for an hour and not fall on a single AI. This is not an exageration.
The advantage of Legacy was that whenever your dino was low on food, the AI algorythm was dynamic enough and made an AI spawn in your direct listening-area, with barely any exception.
The current way doesn't encourage players to venture toward the discovery of the map, and instead always pushes them to go back to the usual "hotspots" where food is ever-present, be it in AI-spawning or player carcasses. It is anti-productive for both immersivity and the gameplay's enjoyment.
Yes, AIs should not make players too dependent, because it would break the need to interact/hunt actual players.
But with how low the player count is in HT for the size of the map, or even the current officials on Evrima Branch (not HT), their low number is simply too unreasonable.
If the AI disposition stands the same when coming on Evrima Public Branch, it will be terrible.

As a legitimate illustration, here is my "adventure" with one of my Rex, which did not have food for an entire hour (it starved to death soon after this screenshot). Venturing from East Lake beach to South-West Beach. I am of course back to camp AI-dibble spawn, delta bridge, and Highlands.
Note: obviously, I was on "active listening" the entire time.

Thank you for your understanding, and hopefully something will be made to fix this issue.

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somber niche
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Please fix the fish AI and frog AI. Like damn, almost impposible to try deino

marsh matrix
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Complete overhaul is needed with AI. ESPECIALLY if your going to introduce DinoAI, and not just Fodder Creatures.

Ai Have no Needs, No desires, and no Resources. They are Designed as Killing machines, or fodder machines.
If you want to introduce creatures that can actually live on the isle, then they need resources. No body likes being chased by an Infinite sprinting Boar, Dibble, Whatever. Its dumb, it feels bad.

If you want to introduce AI, to be a bigger part of the game, then just emergency food, They need to exist in the same way a player does. They need to require Drink and food, know how to go to and from to get it, and not Auto detect every body within a Radius of them but rather See and hear.

Personally i feel thats not possible in its current form, so my suggestion is to leave AI as food, and not try to fill out the world with them. Instead concentrate on stability, Synchronization, and increasing Player caps.

buoyant verge
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Boar turn speed is absurd.

twin surge
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I got this game yesterday, I played four different times and I didn't meet any AI food for hours, wherever I went there was absolutely nothing to eat, I died all four time by starvation, PLEASE fix this problem, the game is not enjoyable right now, I am wondering why I got it at this point

next portal
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they need to fix ai Spawns its hard for smaller dinos to survive

lavish belfry
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Players want to engage with others, but AI also help them with basic survival.

Perhaps to make up for dino AI behavior not being the most ideal and to improve both, allow same species players to group with AI, and the AI in a players group to behave based on how the player calls.

  • You can only group up to your normal group limit of AI, and have to remove an AI from the group to allow a player in if full.
  • If you 3 call and your mouse is facing toward an enemy, the AI will become aggressive.
  • If you 4 call, the AI will behave flighty and herd up with you, allowing galli players for example to use their f call and flee.
  • 2 Call will calm the AI down and reset them to normal behavior.
  • Allow players to pair with and nest with opposite gender AI and have it give random mutations. This will allow solo players both to nest in more AI for their group to recover after hunts, or to try and nest in other players.

The catch? You have to take care of your AI's needs or they will leave your herd. You have to feed them and get them water, and they only have so much stamina and health; all displayed in your group menu.

I feel like this would help with the generally lower number of herbivore players seen, give more interactive experiences with AI and players, and add more variety to survival strategies, especially if added after you guys implement your plans to counter mixpacking and megapacking.

hazy blade
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I was a baby deino and stuck in the animation from an elite fish eating me

final cliff
#

Add duck AI for into small ponds for pteras and small carnivorous who are really hungry

frail laurel
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Dibbies should not spawn in one area(Delta), and should also spawn in other spots(old hotspots). Either Highland, North Lake, Sp... give crocs and rexes reasons to go back to the old hotspots cause atm all the food is concentrated at center of delta which means rexes and crocs will always congregate at Delta.

If you don't want to see megapacks of rexes or crocs at delta, add more dibbies throughout the map not just one area. I personally think the dibbies was a good addition(AI needs works ofc) but spawning them in only one area has extreme downsides. As a croc player, it's nice to see the delta alive again but I would much rather get the old hotspots back and this can be done with dibbles spawning in those old hotspots...

ashen carbon
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Add goats to highlands theyre non existant

odd swallow
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An idea I thought of for when ai dinosaurs get brought to the main branch is that there could be a server setting that can be enabled or disabled for carnivores to smell them out. So let’s say there is a herd of diablos or tenos but they aren’t making any sound. Carnivores (if close enough) could smell them and track them down. It will make getting food easier, plus if creatures stay in one area for long enough they do tend to smell. Just a thought though

rancid bane
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Add ai Megalodon to saltwater so that Deinosuchus doesn't become too strong in saltwater.

smoky sable
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Expand the availability and diet function of clams to more animals. It’s a really cool food source!! And it could help keep all carnivores alive, while being a vital diet for small fellers like Beipi, flyers, or even Troo.

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balmy trellis
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While I was playing as a Maia, there was a few AI Dibbles and they where acting, very goofy and one was spar stanceing and side shining, and also 2 baby rexes chasing a dibble. One was biting its butt and the other was being chased

last schooner
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A strange behavior I've observed from the Diabloceratops AI is that they have a weird habit of just standing completely still in bushes. I have no idea if they spawn there or if they just wander into said bushes.

They only seem to move if something approaches them and triggers them to flee.

A second bit of feedback I want to throw in here since there's a slowmode is the combat with an AI.

Just had an actual "fight" with a Diabloceratops AI for the first time, one that didn't get stuck or fail at fleeing.

The fight was pretty unengaging, the AI would just constantly spam the trash/horn attack and sprint directly towards me, I would step out of the way and as it slowly turned around I would run up behind it, bite it on the backend and then it would continue charging after me.

This repeated ad nauseum until it assumedly reached low enough health to change its behaviour to run away, where I easily kept up with it and bit it until death.

smoky sable
zenith bolt
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please drastically reduce the amount of dibble ai and spread them across the map more evenly, 4 sub/adult tyrannosaurus shouldnt be able to sustain themselves in one spot like this instead of actually fighting over resources.

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round seal
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A suggestion for fish spawn behaviors

Encourage Deino to lay on muddy banks outside of the water, so as not to spook the fish, (causing them to spawn).

Real players avoid areas with active predators who could harm them, so to should AI.

haughty spade
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4 hours of gameplay and not a single elite fish was found. Is it confirmed that elite fish do not spawn in horde test?

elder geode
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Ive died due to starvation on 3 different servers, and saw no AI or any real player each time.

proven dove
#

give us like 5 or so more different varients of elite fish ( for spinos sake) and some marine reptile ai would be very cool

dusk estuary
haughty spade
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^ i would love to see some larger aquatic ai to make hunting interesting for deino

haughty spade
#

Just a daily reminder to you great folks that ai spawning remains broken.

cerulean hollow
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I just want the ai to spread out. I can go from seeing zero fish to 10 elite fish in one spot…

wicked frigate
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Ai that hasn't been killed in let's say 30 minutes should despawn, and if you manage to find AI that are about to despawn, they should cancel that timer the moment they detect the player, this would be a small sacrifice to unlucky players who finally find AI and it despawns on them... But way better than no AI after like an hour after restart, this means for every AI that despawns, new one spawns elsewhere, this would also keep the fish ai consistent. (Legit found 7 elite fish in one hidden spot near the bank of the swamp the other day)

last junco
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hi this is an accurate depiction of me running about an hour 30 minutes to find 1 crab at the end of the line barely staying alive of other t rexes on hordetest do what you want but at this point its a feature ( i ran along the coast all the way) so put dynamic spawn or something ty

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elder night
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let ai take fall damage simple as that

feral hatch
#

Can we please bring in the new little AI?
They're not unimportant just because they're small.

sand ginkgo
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Effectively pounced a boar for once... I got maybe three kicks in before I randomly got knocked off in open air, complete with the falldown stunlock, and just instantly died. Very sure I didn't see the boar's subtle little bite animation, it wasn't even facing me for once. Likely because it was running from a rex. First the boar are virtually impossible to kill thanks to their ESP, ballerina training, and rapid strikes, but now they can instantly kill young omni from... Almost a body length off its hip? That's like standing on the sidewalk near the rear quarter panel of a vehicle and still somehow registering a fatal collision with the front bumper. I didn't think the boar could get any worse than they already are, this better be some ridiculous fluke.

tulip hollow
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elite fish ai is broken where is the all fishh

clever gust
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i find there to be no fish i have traveled up and down stream for like 30 mins and have not seen a single fish it makes playing the gator really hard bc other then fish there is not much to eat when no players are around it would be cool if deer a boar where also on a drinking route so you could possibly have a goo at them

lean bear
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After months y’all still don’t fix the ai and make it worse but why? We been asking for some ai to spawn so we can actually play the game without starving

runic anvil
#

please increase the fish spawns I can never find any

sand peak
vague pasture
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Just lost 7 hours as a sub rex to a dibble herd, didnt even engage, they started running after me, I run until my stamina is drained but all of them are still on me and I die. What an amazing game

fast creek
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Love trying to play croc and swimming across the whole map to not find any fish anywhere

hasty trellis
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Either I'm seriously unlucky, or the fish AI still needs reworking. Even on HT, I spawned as my 38% deino in the river between Delta and Water Access, and swam all the way to Water Access. Not one fish. Starved, and spawned at south Swamps. Swam around, touched the sanctuary, swam all the way up to Delta starving and becoming infertile, ruining my chances of Prime, all before I was even 75kg to handle an elite fish. Please acknowledge and correct this issue.

last hornet
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More intense Ai with environment interaction, like if grazing and they hear something they’ll stop and stare in your direction for a few seconds before going back to what they were doing if they don’t see you

vague pasture
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Yo dondi nice job making the ai dinos chase you until you are dead, i was a baby rex and they start chasing for 10 mins until they finalyl kill me

fading kelp
#

there is no ai in na 12

daring kettle
#

Why is there zero AI like an hour before reset, literally every time

merry lake
#

Played for 30 hours so far, roam the coast for atleast 40 percent each life, not 1 turtle. Bruh...

brittle vector
#

There should be a donkey or horse ai

gloomy oak
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And as troodon.....why do the board turn on a dime and kill you in 2 hits as adult? Turned as i pounced so i hit its face, stunned and then killed (horstest).

copper goblet
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Remove a.i. dibble herds. The reliability of their respawns trivializes survival for t-rex & allows an unhealthy amount of apex predators to co-exist without any competition for food. They add nothing to the game while being extremely unhealthy for its ecosystem.

visual spire
# hasty trellis Either I'm seriously unlucky, or the fish AI still needs reworking. Even on HT,...

i started off at water acceses made my way all the way down the waterfalls not a single fish to j sector went back up j sector river then back down and starved to death died at 31 ppercent also i also feel like fish ai needs re working Please acknowledge and correct this issue. i feel like i have seen over half of dieno players say "dieno needs more gameplay, new ai not just fish mayhbe some land ai i thought dieno players cry and no one cares about dieno gameplay being boring think that should be a bigger issue

vestal flume
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It'd be nice if fish spawned every 30 minutes or so, or if not maybe we could have other animals approach lakes for a drink or fall in by accident sometimes?

feral hatch
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Troodon should be able to dig up AI.

They are the only small hunters that can't spawn AI or have easy access to it.

Herra, Beibi, and Peter all have easy access to AI.

Even Galli can, and they have no vital need for it, as he can simply eat plants.

  • Crabs, on the beach
  • Frogs, by rivers/ponds
  • Compys, in grassy areas

These AIs usually have major spawn problems or don't spawn naturally at all, making them virtually impossible to obtain.

half mason
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You need to fix the fish spawns on official it’s a joke for deinos

bitter nest
# half mason You need to fix the fish spawns on official it’s a joke for deinos

Ye it is. As Deino I hear deer, boar and chicken on Land. I grew last weekend from fresh spawn to 50% in the ***** and that entire time there was no elite fish nor schooling fish. I was forced to kill other fresh spawned Deino, which I personaly don't really like to do. I know we are cannibals, but in my eyes it scares off Lots of ppl to play deino in the first place.

tall carbon
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The new Hordetest patch, saw a new change with implications specifically for the BOAR. The changes I have so far seen is gaurding and eating of bodies, with some new attacks thrown in which i have not seen before.

This is a bit much in my opinion as how are juvies expected to make kills with boars being around able to body guard and then eat the bodies, whilst also being very powerful for juvies.

Not a bad feature, but one that needs to be balanced perhaps by making the boar more susceptible to swift strikes by giving the boar a longish telegraphed attack for juvies to avoid. This will at least start to allow the juvies to combat the boar threat without having to constantly pull the aggro of the beast away from the bodies.

smoky sable
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Clam expansion??

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humble fog
# half mason You need to fix the fish spawns on official it’s a joke for deinos

For real i can put up with constant cannibalism from any croc 5% bigger than me, i can put up with giving "Safe drinking" areas to terrestral dinos by going from spawn to the hidden ponds and puddles, I can reasonably understand that as a deino you are always going to be close to starvation

What i really cant put up with is 99% of my dieno runs ending in starvation due to no fault of my own because of the above design choices of the devs. We need more AI, new waterbound species, removal of safe drinking spots too far for dienos to walk to ect. We need something man its getting sad out here

lunar valley
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I feel like Clams should give Lipids or Proteins instead of Carbs. Currently fish also gives carbs, doesn't require being opened, and has more food inside. Since you get clams from mud, and mud is always near water, there is 0 incentive to fish for clams. Other than novelty. I think I would prefer protein but it really doesn't matter which of the two!

sand ginkgo
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Thank you for the clams. 🤍

Question, though... To tacos exist? I mean, AI has been sparse for a long while, but I haven't seen our little raccoon dino in months, it feels like. I think I heard one last week, but I suspect they're doing what the deer did to me previously and just doing ghost things. Pretty much impossible to elder omni since no one plays dryo and you kind of need a pack to hunt the other two, unless I'm just not in the right server. Or just finding other omnis is a requirement for prime elder... Feel like I'm hunting morel mushrooms out here, people hoarding their tacos like they're a precious delicacy.
Also, still can't find AI in general. Feels like a starving simulator unless you know exactly where all the AI spawns, and that's definitely not beginner friendly... Unless you're a rex. Then go to delta and get fat. With like, twelve other rexes.

spice pasture
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is it just me or is there no dibbles spawning, ive been to delta few times and theres been NO dibbles and ive seen a few rexes at dibble island but no dibble bodys its kinda weird

wispy mesa
#

Hopefully the dibbles are gone. Made growing way too easy

visual spire
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the fish spawns for deinos is so bad there is 0 fish all the time ... u go this part u see 1 fish.. then another BIG AREA and the whole area only has 1 elite fish... then u go to another HUGE AREA and there is 0 or 1 fish. most of the time its ALL this water But 0 fish or 1 fish spawns... my question is if there is so much water why would there only be a single fish in a single area where there is tons of water it makes no sense whatsoever there should be 40x the ammount of fish for dienos ... if we not eating fish we are dead

keen pendant
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same with pteras

molten owl
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dibbles on eu 2 weren t spawning idk why tho :/

strong elbow
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on eu 1 spawn after 5 hours zero ai dibbels in river delta

wheat storm
topaz goblet
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They removed dibbles no more dibbles

small saddle
#

ya running around the entire map trying to feed my raptor family and not finding 1 ai in 2 hours is absolutely stupid. the world should be crawling with ai like it is herb food.

jaunty crystal
#

Can the ai not have esp and not follow you until it gets bored? (HT)

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frigid ore
tight geode
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AI needs to spawn in realistic numbers across the map

My average playthrough feels like I'm playing on an empty map unless I tie myself to one of the small areas that seems to have AI

I shouldnt be wandering the map for hours and only encountering maybe 6-8 AI

molten owl
slow iron
#

Please fix flying fish lol

wet charm
#

need more fish in the rivers literally only some after reset never can find any as a deino

frigid cipher
#

The ground AI shouldn’t react to Deinosuchus while it’s underwater.

vestal flume
#

If I can hear bull frogs as a Deino I would like to be able to sniff them out as well. I can't tell which stuff is just ambient sound and which is something near by that I can actually eat since fish aren't spawning

tardy egret
thin river
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Wait, ai actually exists in this game? Joking aside, this game is basically just spawn in and run around until you starve now. I have seen a few here and there. Then in the same area I will see nothing for an hour. Then I will walk for an hour and find nothing until I die. One time I did hear a chicken and then for the life of me could not locate it. Stopped hearing it and it seemed to disappear. Sniffing did nothing to help me pick up a trail. For all it's problems, legacy at least felt possible to grow with how it worked. Had 500+ hours in legacy. Won't waste one more hour of my time in this until something changes.

smoky sable
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Clams rock, but can we have more. Mostly I just want more and more animals to benefit from clams. Beipie should be a clam FIEND, and I wanna see the different ways that other animals will open or just swallow clams to eat.

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haughty urchin
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i'll let the picture explain itself. (server hordtest NA )

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clear meadow
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Please make clams S diet for PTs

cedar spindle
#

maybe just have the ai spawn at all

clear meadow
#

Let Troodon dig for clams in mud too

snow sequoia
#

Keep the small ai like chickens rabbits crabs frogs and fishes(also big fishes for deino) and then remove every bigger ai from the game. I think this offers a much healthier gameplay.

midnight thunder
sharp matrix
#

better capture of a.i. sounds in the correct direction

dry sundial
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I think little ai - like bullfrogs rabbits and crabs should have some sort of scent to them - Since herbivores are able to smell thier diet i think those tiny ones should be able to have some sort of scent to them

smoky sable
sinful shell
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reverse AI to original
the current ai problem is a known one with limited ai the carnivores are struggling at baby stage since the Ai are the worst hackers the isle will ever see with more esp and stamina then a hacker could ever muster. with this problem though there needs to be a little change of it.
the preferred food for carnivores should also consist like herbies i.e should be able to go from swamp to highlands and have their diets change to the ecosystem which would make it better then having to fight deers and boars and getting oneshot or 2 shot by them at baby stage.

or have more of an option of ai where you spawn in as i.e if you spawn in at highlands your ai diet changes from deers and boars to deers and goats or something along the lines
also dilo's diet didnt need to change to a chicken. when they hard turtle

cobalt hill
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The boar, deer and other Ai's fatal error players when they engage with them.

spare knoll
uncut agate
#

Boar and dear are to aggressive if u keep this behavior only will encourage new players to leave the game

sinful shell
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for simple mind
make ai less deadly add more ai to diet
easier ai=better gameplay

shell coral
#

Spread dibble ai out so half the server doesnt camp the spawn 24/7

willow perch
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Just wanna say ai has been much better with its spawning and being able to find it u guys did good definitely needs a bit more work

steep breach
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The dibbles need to have independent agro, like if one is separated from the pack, and de-agro after a time frame out of combat with them at least because having them with infinite stam and perfect vision being faster than 99% of dinos is literally insane and makes a whole spot unplayable. Even if they're adolesent instead of fully grown. You literally cant split the pack because all of them change target at the exact same time.

sage badger
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AI Diablo herd feedback and the problems they cause for the game in the current state

  • Not a viable food source for solo/small packs because of how many spawn and how deadly they are(outside of cheesing the turn radius as cerato). HOWEVER with the numbers they have and how much food they give it makes them an easy meal for megapacks and mixpacks letting massive numbers sustain off of them. Making less of them spawn in a group would make them feed mega/mixpacks less but then they are even easier to kill with less players.

  • Extremely easy to cheese kills on them. I have seen them get stuck on rocks as a rex walks up and eats them I have also seen people using small fast dinos to lure them into rex friends or corners so they cant escape or into rivers so deinos can kill them. Mentioned above but they dont alt attack or know how to drift like a player so if you dodge an attack you can stay on its back killing it legacy style

  • Extremely predictable spawns is a huge issue combined with how easy they are to kill/cheese. Players will always be able to map out the spawns for them but they spawn in like 1-2 spots right now so you just dont see players at any spot of the map except for the diablo spawns.

  • I have heard they are aggressive to player diablos and honestly feels like terrible gameplay to hear another diablo 1 calling and walking up to them only to get ganged up on by a full group of ai...

As cool as it is to see a big herd of dinosaurs making areas feel more alive the amount of problems they cause feels majorly not worth it at least on official servers/servers with 100 or more player cap. Players will always find a way to cheese/farm ai for free food and the way they are now encourages hotspotting and megamixpacking. I fear for a day when we get trike ai spawns because people are just going to mixpack against it for free food TI_Succ

TLDR: Ai diablos are free food and spawns are highly predictable both encouraging unwanted behavior

slow iron
somber sigil
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Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find any AI opponents for the last two or three days. I've been on five different official servers with various dinos, but I'm starving everywhere because I can't hear any pigs, goats, or deer. Everything was great before, but something's broken for the last two or three days. It's really a shame because it's just not fun anymore.

warped monolith
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Have not been here for a month or two, hoping the AI would get better. It seems to have gotten worse though. have made about 20 different dinos spread out on 5 servers EU and have seen 2 pigs in all. Starved with all of them.

tight geode
#

There needs to be more AI.

I got back into this game roughly a month ago and in that month I have encountered ONLY

2 elite fish
3 fish schools
3 chickens
Around 12 deer
Maybe 6 boar
3 triceratops AI (and I'd hesitate to even count them since all I did was fly over them as a petra)
2 troodons

I have yet to encounter a bullfrog, a turtle or any of the main dietary requirements for the species I play

quaint cape
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Main dev doesn't want bright dinosaurs to exist (even those that were supposed to be bright in the name of realism). but he also doesn't want any predatory dinosaurs to exist, cutting down on AI spawn with each update?

inland path
shell beacon
somber sigil
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I can't find any AI either. I'm playing as Raptor on EU4, as Cera on EU10, and as Carno on EU11, and I've tried everything. But I keep dying from eating everywhere. The game is unplayable like this, sorry.

visual raptor
#

Maybe it's just me, but goats don't seem to spawning on the HT

untold agate
#

Brother, one simple fix, MORE AI. Where the hell is all of the AI, if someone is in a spot for at least a couple minutes or even less there should be AI especially for starving players, this makes no sense

teal magnet
#

we need more ai i had a 2hr play through as allo and i didnt see a single ai

quaint cape
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AI is missing on most servers or behaves strangely like on eu 12. on HT, I came across a gallimim running in circles and not responding. I think it's related to the Hello updates. as well as a fatal error when connecting

inland path
#

Carnivores are basically unplayable right now.

kindred galleon
#

been swimming around north lake for a few in game days, not a single fish has spawned, im gunna starve in the spawn area. dieno is unplayable like this

teal jolt
#

zero AI 2 days now!

coarse inlet
late moat
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Be great to see a huge overhaul to AI behaviors. I still feel Legacy AI is superior to Envirma despite the fact we have more variety in Envirma. The AI have unlimited Stamina and blood pools. They can detect players 360 degrees around them despite how quiet the player is or if there is an obstruction blocking line of sight. Also AI spawning has been a constant problem. It is better in some respects in the current HT but still needs work as they only spawn in certain areas creating hotspots. In Legacy the AI had limited blood and stamina pools and couldn't detect you unless they had line of sight.

dusty badger
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came back to this game after 5 years, spent 3 hours and 6 lives flying around a pteradon looking for fish without any luck over sea, lake or river, didnt see any other dinos either for that matter, on a full official server i had to wait in que for, no suicide button or ways to drown yourself so had to wait out dying of hunger every time 👍 i tried an unofficial server since those supposedly have more ai to eat but same problem there, this game is just a lonely starving simulator. ppl on youtube make nice videos but they are playing a different game. also 10 year old game still in "early access" that should be illegal.

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late moat
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Be great to see Bary, Sucho, and Spino have a similar mechanic to spear fishing were they put their jaws in the water and wait for a fish to swim by and snatch them. Starting with schooling fish at juvenlie stage and once big enough to carry, elite fish. Also the Deino could sit at the bottom with it's jaws open waiting for fish to swim thru. I think this would solve the problem of AI fish not spawning. Still would like to see AI elite fish again swimming around cos I think fresh spawn deinos getting eaten by fish is pretty funny. Also be nice to see larger prehistoric fish in the future to make it worth it for an adult Spino.

stark turret
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is it normal to not see any AI (Deer or Boar) anymore

pastel dove
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there are ai spawns but they feel very inconsistent and localized. Many fish spawns seem to be in the air

inland path
zealous arch
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Boar should be less aggressive and less damage

lucid quest
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HordeTest Fish and Elite Fish need to be looked at ASAP its beyond a joke

restive kraken
flat smelt
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HordeTest Fish and EliteFish not spawing at all. (makes trying to play deino near impossible)

turbid canopy
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why hordetest ai dont move it makes playing anything impossible, i cant even grow cuz i cant eat anything

peak gazelle
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Hordetest AI is invincible (deer, boar, goat) and also dont move at all

floral wedge
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fish school and elite fish do not spawin on main server either, the deino may aswell be removed due to it being unplayable. ive played 10 lives today alone and many times more in the past month and every life ends in starvation. the only way to survive to any growth is to hope for other deinos to spawn. the fact that this a problem thats many months old is absolutely shameful. deinos is one of the best creatures the game has and no other game has close to as good a croc as this and u managed to make it unplayable...

atomic mesa
#

The most recent HT patch broke the ai

split latch
#

GLITCHED AI HT, FIX
IM LOSING MY MIND

frosty token
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HT boar deer and goat ai is invisible and makes no sound, impossible to hunt

thick oracle
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HT / EU1 & EU2: Ai stuck in default pose, no sounds and unable to hunt

finite ferry
#

Na 2 official not spawning AI

errant yoke
#

Dang those boars, just standing there and messing us up

solemn field
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HT be broken, boars and deers are turned into ninja's

round seal
#

When I first joined Evirma, this past spring, there were AI animal families.

Pigs with piglets, deer with fawns. These smaller AI served as potential targets for smaller or not yet grown predators, and they were very visually appealing to come across.

It would be nice to see these families again.

feral hatch
#

Dibbel AI is a mistake to have introduced into the game now.

Especially when they spawn in groups of 5.

They're just easy prey for the largest carnivores.

While the smaller ones can barely find food.

The regular AI needs far more attention.

Everything except wild boar and deer has major problems.

-Fish have been flying for years.

-The small AI is almost completely silent and much harder to see because of its size (crabs, rabbits, chickens). Meanwhile, you can hear boat,deer call from 100 meters away.

-Spawns are completely unreliable (you can walk all over beaches and mountains and find one crab or goat if you're lucky).

-Or they were completely removed from the game (baby boar, baby deer, compy).

-New small AIs were supposed to be available, but we haven't heard anything about them in a year.

restive gull
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I haven't played the game for a few days or even weeks. Yesterday, I logged into EU4 and EU10, and after a few hours of play, I only encountered two boars in the same spot, neither making any sounds. Today, I logged into EU10, and with 22 players online, there wasn't a single AI, even though I know exactly where to look; I even have a list of coordinates. I immediately logged into EU6 on Gallimimus, and there were boars and deer everywhere. I even saw two glitchy elite fish, even though there were only four players online. I think there's some kind of AI glitch on some servers. I've been playing for a long time and pay a lot of attention to the AI, so I know exactly when there are issues. The game was at its healthiest about a year and a half ago, when the AI ​​roamed in families and the ponds were full of fish (which filled the hunger bar nicely). Why not return everything to the way it was?

tame belfry
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We need AI back... Deino is a mess right now now fish to grow as juveni no elite fish to grow past 50%...

forest socket
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Ai still seems bugged . Boar is Tposing unable to eat v.v

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daring tapir
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while the AI is definetly present and can now be interacted whit,i also couldnt help but notice that the fish schools started acting in....unsuspecting ways in the horde test

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plucky edge
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Lower the threshold of players it takes for AI to spawn in a region of a map, and reduce the number that is spawned in total. RN it's a negative feedback loop of more AI than what is needed in highly populated areas, and areas remaining highly populated because AI will ONLY spawn there.

If players want to explore literally any other region of the map then they better have a pack with them that the game will spawn AI for. If you're running solo you're basically region locked to delta or any hotspot for your entire life (see: herra, with its fast hunger drain + ineffective at travel)

I've also noticed in Hordetest that PZ and MZs remain in one place for an extremely long period of time, and PZ often won't even show/move for solo carnivores trying to travel. (Probably due to the fact that there are no herbivores to trigger a PZ elsewhere, and everybody remains in Delta, so the MZ keeps reappearing there)

Despite removing an entire third of the map and having a completely full server, 80% of the map still feels incredibly barren and lifeless. Don't leave it to unofficial server owners to make up for this fault themselves. Don't inadvertently punish players for trying new things and exploring, because that's how you completely turn away dino diversity.

narrow valve
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I’d love to give feedback but ai are completely nonexistent in officials

tiny ice
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Something needs to be done yesterday about this AI problem on Official servers (NOT HORDETEST). AI was already hard enough to come across as it was, but the game is like 99% unplayable as a baby carnivore without AI to kill. OK, let's just say we should rely on hunting other players the old fashion way. Now we've got multiple other cans of worms- for starters- the map is FAR TOO BIG FOR 100 PLAYERS (that's if you are even on a server with 100 players). I'm assuming this recent AI issue has something to do with the servers not doing their regular restarts. I have to assume because, to my knowledge, there have been 0 announcements or PSAs made about this problem, which is wild to me. I've wasted numerous hours spawning and dying of starvation that could have been prevented had I known I'm just not going to be able to find food. I don't know where priorities are at the moment, but a huge portion of your playerbase are being alienated. Imagine new people coming into the game to try it out. What kind of first impression is this leaving? I understand that this game is very much a work in progress, but at some point in time, even a work in progress needs to adhere to some standards.

south fossil
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I would live to see the dibbel ai get a leader it would be a prime dibbel all the dibbel stay by his side not running from anything unless the prime dibbel dies.

shell forge
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There is no AI, game breaking. Starved to death too many times. I'll be back when its updated. official servers

twin willow
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lost a 50% cera, it was only fed by other starving ceras, when is the AI coming back, I wanna play carnivores

shell beacon
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plese, please, please. fix ai b4 u add any more dinos or plants.

candid imp
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Yeah, pretty unplayable without ai. I'll be back when it's worth playing

distant aspen
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Feedback: If an elite fish grabs your fresh deino, you can enjoy 15min of him dragging you around without killing you because it takes forever to drown, you either have to log out and wait 5 minutes in the hope the fish moved on. or you can just enjoy the show untill you grow to heavy for it to hold on XD either way: 0/10 would not recommend trying elite fish

high vortex
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Where's the AI? Don't make me kill a cerato with my troodon

brisk rock
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I like how the AI behaves compared to when I started playing 3 months ago. The Boar attack animation used to be a weird and oddly fast nose flick and now it actually has the weight of an attack and is more predictable making it more possible to dodge. I also really like "riding" the boar when I pounce it and it buckles madly. It's fun.
The deer behaves in a believable way but I still hate the way it keeps swimming away lol
I haven't seen a goat in ages
Maybe chickens, rabbits and crabs should be more numerous. It's expected from said species.
Tacos' burrows actually work now. Love to see it.
Dibbles behave much better compared to before they were removed. Such big AIs should in fact be aggressive and hard to kill, especially in big groups (they still bug a little tho). It was also nice removing their broadcast when they spawn, it was pretty much a "dinner is ready".
I still think dino AIs should spawn in diferent places to avoid campers.
Turtles still have the silly footprints lolol.

All in all nice improvement.

gloomy lark
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I would like to propose a solution to the ai discourse, that being y/n on the dino ai. My solution is this; all the ai should be Miocene mammals. this keeps the prehistoric feel, while also allowing for larger creatures to support the big carnivores without falling into the same category as playables. I would also like to say that this should be done as a final polish sort of thing. There's no need to replace all of the things right now, but i think it would be a nice touch for when the game eventually releases completely.

raven storm
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No AI spawns around you when playing as Dieno or as Ptero, especially fish, making them completely unplayable and based on luck on if you find a dead dino or not. PLEASE fix! Just realized more things:

  1. Fish related AI dont spawn at all. Only schooling fish spawn sometimes (unless your Dieno or Ptero)

  2. Ai overall only spawns consistently when your playing as T-Rex (except non schooling fish)

median willow
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Fix the fish, developers, are you kidding? the problem is half a year old

dim fulcrum
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Can’t find ai turtles on ht

bleak jay
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literally nothing spawns on erivmia can yall either up the spawn rate or fix whatever bug is preventing it? you starve before you even get a chance to play the game

idle coyote
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I’m glad to see that the AI was somewhat improved in the HT. My only complaint is that on the south side of the map there’s literally no AI. There are tons of boars and deer around Delta, but once you get out of that area, you pretty much have to rely on finding something to kill, which is almost impossible now that everyone is playing Allo. I haven’t seen any herbis tbh. Please make it so the AI is spread more evenly around the map, because if you get out of the hotspots there’s nothing to eat.

verbal panther
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Hey tried out The Isle basicly for the first time yesterday. Starved to death 4 times on my baby Deino. Where is the food? Shouldn't there be wildlife? Didn't see a single fish. Spent hours yesterday looking around. Even had a sea expedition.

upbeat basalt
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all of the tacos in the server are at one place fromm 100 fps i went down to 8 xd ( HT btw )

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raven storm
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i have been flying around the dam sea, no scooling fish

finite slate
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ive tried to grow a dienosuches 5x in a row and i die from starving before i see a single fish at all lmfao

spare knoll
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I'm not convinced there are any AI atm

tropic vapor
#

Would LOVE if they added AI at some point! (minor sarcasm)

fleet merlin
#

Fix elite fish & schooling fish spawn

brittle radish
#

why do deers chase you now?

distant aspen
#

can you please make the turtles and crabs stop eating dead turtles and crabs

peak escarp
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can we have fish back. Even just the elite fish. who cares about the jumping fish

versed gulch
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I just want to play ptera but no ai ever spawns either on normal or testing. I have only ever died due to starvation, never another dino. This is so sad and frustrating, making me not want to play. It used to not be as bad but it seems with every update it just gets worse. Even when slowly gliding over rivers back and forth waiting for schooling fish to spawn, nothing.
I like the rework on the ptera's flying and stam on the testing branch. However, due to how fast its hunger drains the stam regen needs to compensate for this. I have literally had to sit/latch and watch my hunger just plumet.
Please, at the very least, make ai show on the compass. I remember it used to long ago but now it just doesn't.

fading kernel
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found a spot ai fall off the cliff but dont die hangout on edge

feral hatch
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AI shouldn't kill and eat each other.

Instead, AI should eat plants.

So, if carnivores eat AI, that would also increase the number of available plants for herbivores.

Just like in real life.

Carnivores benefit from herbivores.
Herbivores from plants.
Plants from carnivores.

AI would also feel more alive.

atomic mesa
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Or, just diversify.
Have board eat other ai the way it is now, and have deer eat plants.

quaint cape
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Just bring the AI back to the Northern Plains. I look with sadness at the Northern River and the surroundings of the volcano, which were teeming with life at the beginning of this summer. But now they're dead, just like the South. Just bring back the spawns of goats, boars, deer, and fish. It's very nostalgic.

thorn gyro
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  1. First of all. If u are not in a very populated area there is no chance for AI spawn.
  2. 100 players is very low number when the AI spawn is this bad.
  3. Bring back baby animals for small and baby dinos. ( At least at HT I csnt find them)
  4. A deer should not be able to kill a 30% Rex with 3 kick.
  5. Being back the “friendly” deer because no chance to hunt for AI when u are a baby.
  6. Add all AI to all Dinos diet at least while they are baby.
gray island
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Have the types of AI that spawn near you depend on your growth stage and size. If you're a juvi of something that can get vaporised in a hit or two by a boar, larger adult AI should have babies with them to target instead. When you're big enough to pin or tank a few hits from an adult deer or boar (or old enough for venom, in the cases of troodon and dilo), baby AI won't spawn for you anymore. (Baby boar will still be a hard mode target in this concept, because you still have to draw the adult away before you can safely hunt the baby.)

faint cave
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The Diablo ai chases you way too far from where they spawn. They don't care if they are alone or in a herd so when you try to run away you quickly run out of stamina and they dog pile you. They are far too aggressive and persistent for herbivores imo especially when you accidently come across them then they won't leave you alone. It sucks to loose your almost fully grown dino when all you wanted was a drink of water and the ai spawns right on top of you and won't leave you alone even after running far away.

bitter sail
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Goats are crazy rare i have never seen one. I would love to see baby ai come back too!

young ferry
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30% tyrannosaurus got killed be a deer 😍

radiant mantle
#

Please add more life in water, with bary and austro being the next ones I feel like the ai in lakes and rivers should be more diverse and cool.
Like add giant crabs or water snakes\beavers stuff like this.
Fish is very bugged also rn

round seal
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Many predators, particularly the smaller ones, have very few options when they are young, and in some cases, spawn far from viable prey animal zones.

If small playables represent the bottom of the food chain, why is finding food for them so hard?

A baby Herrera, Troo, Omni may think twice about a deer, and will usually avoid boar at all cost. And the new large predators gobble up all of their kills leaving nothing to scavenge.

In many cases, it's, Spawn, rush chicken zone. Rabbits are too fast, frogs aren't around most the time. Not all beaches hold food reliably.

magic plover
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Where can i find goats at HT servers? I was two times in hl and there was nothing...no goats, no gallis..only dead land -.-

modest geyser
#

Velo IA
(dangerous for baby dinosaurs)

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solid hamlet
#

Elite fish never spawn after your deino over 90kg.

hallow lake
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so turns out that herreras can be softlocked by elite fish
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gentle hare
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Bringing this over from #general-feedback-discussion message:

Consider the introduction of limited foraging for certain species of small carnivores (at your discretion), as an equivalent to herbi grazing. No diets, only fills a very small amount of food, so players are still incentivized to seek real prey as they grow. If a gallimimus can dig up a compy or a frog AI every few minutes, why can't omni, troo, or others? They already have the animations for disturbing taco burrows, so I don't expect it would be a hugely resource-intensive task to implement. It would be more useful for small or growing dinosaurs, but might allow medium-sized ones to temporarily stave off starvation for just a little longer until their next meal. Even with HT map shrinkage, it's still so big that many carnis (especially troos, who are small, venomless on spawn, with rapid hunger decay and get their sh*t rocked by chickens, let alone deer or boars) will starve before even making contact with other players. Also, allowing smaller tier carnivores to survive longer will help to prop up the food web, giving larger carnivores more things to hunt.

median rover
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Why haven't the AI spawns been fixed yet? There's still no elite fish and I can rarely find any other animals to hunt.

hardy imp
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WHEN I POUNCED A TACO ON REX THE GAM GLICTCH IT INTO ME AND COUDLT MOVE sorry all caps

cinder rock
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Been playing for weeks now and i have barely been able to find anything for ai please address no fish no schools nothing

proven dove
#

bring back baby ai

round seal
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At this point it seems fairly clear to me.

The presence or absence of food sources, including AI, along with freshwater, determines if an area is viable for persistent player presence or just a corridor on route to an area that is.

There are so many cool areas that'd would be neat to hang out in for more then a minute or two in passing.

lunar valley
#

Just saw a deer hunting a rabbit. Im not sure if it's intentional or not, but I love it 🤣

carmine stump
#

It makes sense for boar to attack players but not deer. Deer naturally run from predators regardless on if they can fight or not. Boar will happily gore anything that gets to close to them. Bring back the baby AI for fresh spawn players so we have something to survive on. Otherwise let us kill AI without them killing us! We already have enough players hunting spawn points to weed out any players trying to grow. We don’t need AI adding onto it.

cunning yew
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w a n t s n a i l .

ruby totem
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just had 2 ai trikes smash me in a bush after logging in to my 26% any rex chance i can get that rex back?

tulip pelican
#

When you get swallowed by a elite fish as a Deino you dont seem to die. So now im just alive inside a big fish and waiting to decay lol

feral hatch
#

Is work still being done on the small AI?

The lizards and rats and such?

The last time we heard anything was November 2024.

But instead of getting them, we got Diablo AI to feed the biggest carnivores and the small ones starved.

spare knoll
#

boars are so aggressive they are even hunting each other

feral hatch
#

Compy's seem to work from what I've seen so far. But they don't walk, they glide across the floor.

lunar valley
#

Add Compy to Pt diet!

zealous path
#

Increase goat spawn (probably saw only 1 goat in all of my evrima carrier)

unkempt peak
#

Any land dino can find food fairly easy, but if your a deino, you're starving to death... I've done it twice today, fix it! There should be no reason why a lake as big as dam lake only has 1 elite fish in it every 3 hours with only myself in the lake, should be plentiful as long as the body of water isn't overcrowded!

bitter sail
#

Small ai for small hunters. Frogs (havent seen one since forever), Chickens, and a return of juvenile boar/goat/deer. even having them spawn in sact could be nice to give carnivores the chance to hang around for longer

timid quiver
#

AI can hear deinosuchus swimming while fully underwater. there's no chance of hunting anything that isn't fish, and the spawns for those are absolutely abysmal. I have better luck hunting boar as a ptera than a deino

novel pendant
#

Imagine being an about 80% Trike getting killed by 4 AI Dibble....

tacit python
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This is a AI review for HT!
1.)Ai will head straight to other bodies and eat them!! Kinda sucks since juvie carnis are forced to scavenge kills!
2.)AI boar are now corpse body-guards that juvi carnis cant kill!!
3.)You've recently added back the lil bird AI that attacks pteras while carrying a fish which is just absolutely idiotic! ( Just lost my 5x entomb in less than 3 sec at night because of this! )( Had JUST entombed. )
4.) The Ai that everyone calls "Tacos" sometimes randomly disappear beneath the map preventing us from killing them!
5.) The AI deer are far to powerful!
6.) Ai boar can hit me as a herrerra WHILE POUNCING IT! It also has an absurd amount of health before it dies!
7.)No AI spawn at north lake area which forces people to go delta, jungles, savanna, west rail access, and highlands! (Hardly an ai spawn highlands!)
8.) The Galli Ai spawn one at a time and dont stick together!
9.) The AI dibbles spawn all together as a herd and stay together from what i can tell! If im wrong sry about this please feel free to correct me!
10.) The dibble AI also end up spawning on cliff ledges and in trees preventing anyone form killing them and also preventing more from spawning taking up AI spawn slots!
11.) The AI mechanic that lets them turn sharper than you prevents juvi carnis from out maneuvering them to try to bite the rears! And AI boar can hit you even if u are behind it!
12.) AI deer DOES BLEED DAMAGE to you when kicked which is weird, If Galli cant do bleed the deer shouldn't ither!!
13.) Ai doesn't seem to die of blood loss which it should!
14.) AI should have stamina that runs out just like player dinos!
15.) AI shouldn't be able to lock on to you while sitting or crouched in bushes! Or while im flying unless it is facing me! (trying to kill anything small as a ptera is impossible while flying and EATS a ton of your stamina while running after it!
16.) For some odd reason i keep finding Goat Ai following the chicken AI when i fly between water access and highlands!!
17.) Ai show up as the Mega Pack symbol when smelling!

I understand this is the HORDE TEST branch which means alot of things are just temp and due to change in the future, That being said for most juvi carnis spawning in AI Boar and Deer, are like mini boss fights!
It looks like you guys are planning on forcing people to entomb so they aren't a peak dino forever harrassing others, Which is fine but i shouldn't have to worry about dying in less than 5 minutes after entombing to AI or from lack of being able to kill one!! I dont play the isle to fight AI!
The fact that AI can sense you from far away and start running even if u are crouch or sitting is to much when you are so limited on time to find food as a juvi and this fact is made even worse now that entombment and old age is a thing in the HT!
Im not saying entombment should come without risks, im just saying the AI shouldnt be the one all be all for juvi carnis or slow juvi herbis such as stego!

This is just my observations and a few thoughts for AI !! I am just hoping that the developers will read this and fix some of this stuff! The AI need some TLC!

fresh stirrup
#

add bugs for early game food source

sick estuary
#

AI fish keep going into rocks at water access

plucky plover
#

i love how this isnt getting fixed it is impossible to survive as babies or any small dino beacuse there no ai

real ice
#

sometimes i see a sworm of fishes flyign around

gentle hare
green osprey
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My biggest complaint about the game (Enriva) : fix Ai so there's always lots of it no matter how many players are on the server.
My second biggest complaint : fix smell so it can find living Ai. Shouldn't be limited to corpses.

half mason
#

Sort it out!!! EU 4 north lake

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verbal wagon
#

change the color of turtles or their shell to make them more visible, its rlly impossible sometimes to spot them

shut owl
#

It seems that elite fish spawns in lakes do not respawn. Immediately after a server restart they are there. Once they are eaten, they are gone until next restart. Tested this several times over a couple days. This explains why you often find no elite fish at all at water access or north lake. Only schooling fish. (Which often are bugged out and flying in the air)

rigid rune
#

On official Evrima is Ai OFFline? really boring this gameplay -.-

tacit stag
#

While most spawns work correctly... This one might be a bit gliched and needs to be worked on

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low wharf
#

in my opinion you should make ai an actually good food source but make it harder to hunt, right now ai just walks away at 5kmh when your big and kills you if your small

tough aurora
#

AI feedback for HT (Horde Test)

  • Make AI spawn all over the map (even the islands), but ONLY if player is in the area. No need for AI spawning at empty parts.
  • Make AI spawn only if the player is carnivore or omnivore. No need for rabbits, deers, boars, fish, chicken, crabs and other animals to spawn if you are Herbivore.
    This will reduce the amount of AI spawned - so this way less stress for the servers.
    Also will be good addition to the servers if there is automatic corpse cleanup every 1 hour or 2 hours
marble ginkgo
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been like this for 20 mins. Hordetest pls fix. Was around 29% and this fish didnt even move just bobbing up and down

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warm condor
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Hotspots are worse than ever. AI spawns need to be spread across the map better, and they need to eventually deplete for a time before rejuvenating to discourage stagnation. I came across a megapack of at least 9 big rexes all crammed on the middle fork (Stonehaven/dibble island) in delta the other night, living their best life off dibble AI. That is actually ridiculous. That many HUGE carnivores should not in any world be able to sit and camp one spot without fear of starvation. NE could use a few teno AI herds or something out in those big open plains.

Spawns should be particularly plentiful in migration zones, and zones should change more frequently, regardless of player congregation. This would motivate movement to avoid starving.

AI "deadzones" need attention. Some parts of the map have sufficient AI, while others are totally devoid of any life. There isn't really much of a point in traveling to those locations. It should be an option for the smaller, weaker playables that are all but fodder for those actually capable of survival to thrive incognito and not get snapped up by the first desperate carnivore that comes along.

Why is there a grand total of only like 2 beaches with turtles, when we're on a literal island?

verbal wagon
#

Make Ai slower. Impossible to catch as a baby. Nothing but ragebait

umbral agate
#

Spent 3 hours in the swamp, quite literally on their spawn point. Not a single frog.

lunar valley
#

Im pretty sure Compy groups are causing the overpack icon to show up on the compass. There's nothing else around me ¯_(ツ)_/¯

wispy gull
#

As a Pteranodon, fish spawns are obviously broken and only appear at server restart on Hordetest (not much of an issue for pt specifically) but they are sometimes also seemingly invisible and only noticeable if you listen out for the water sounds they make and they pop into existence after a second (of which I would have went right past them had I not heard). Its happened a fair few times but not every time.

Its not really an issue more than it is just odd.

solemn bloom
#

let us sniff ai 🙁 (While ir is alive) WHY IS THERE SO MUCH HATE FOR THIS IDEA 😭

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slow iron
#

Please fix fish!! Elites and schooling. They keep flying out of the water and some areas have 0 fish at all

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jovial venture
#

yeah ive starved 5 deinos just running the river not finding a single fish in the river the few i seen were flying

twin roost
#

On hoardtest the 5x growth server a deino starved before it gets to any diet

visual orchid
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I literally haven't seen or heard a single AI, I've been running around as Juvie Omni for the past 4-5 Lives now. (Official Server). Growing feels like an impossibility.

slow ether
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Still think Seaturtles should be part of Deino diet. its not like it could just live by that and Turtles being diet makes a lot of sense. Also this would give Saltwater Deinos a bit of a chance to roam around the map instead of just stay at west rail beaches.. Just my Opinion tho...

bold raptor
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New AI Spawn Areas

Topic(s): AI Spawns, Elder-System, Patrol Zones, Dynamic Environment

AI should be attracted to the food in Patrol Zones and spawn nearby an activated PZ. This makes exploring much more feasible for carnivores and give herbivores a dilemma - do they share the food with the stupid deer, or do they murder the ungulate and risk attracting predators who either heard or smelled the commotion?

In addition, migration zones should spawn more AI and plants or let them respawn/re-grow faster in this area.

fallow dome
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would be nice if Herbis dont spawn ais. there dont eat them and other carnis need them somwhere els.

uneven dust
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All we want is for fish spawns to be somewhat consistent please
As well as more ai around the beaches around the map so salt water deino can be viable

round seal
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Today on hordetest AI spawned extremely well for me, comparable to how well they did on Evirma.

As a freshspawn (recently entombed) Troodon, I spent a good bit running down, and tracking, an especially pesky chicken, but thereafter filled my belly on not just chickens, but deer, rabbit, compy, taco, and crab.

I did not achieve perfect diet with this, but it was a very good run, and I felt like I could both explore the Isle, and enjoy some varied hunting.

violet kelp
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Goat AI's sounds (at least the pain sounds) are not great. Doesn't sound like an animal... It sounds like a human making goat noises

blissful remnant
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Increase the (graphic) size of chickens a little, or add a particle effect to their footsteps when they run, or have them make more noise more frequently. I can hear them when I'm a hatchling, but can't tell where they run after a couple dashes because I can't see them and they've run out of my audible range. A growing baby needs chicken dinner 🙏

echo inlet
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FIX THE LACK OF FISH!!!! DIED 3 TIMES LOOKING FOR A DAMN FEED

winged raptor
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It would be awesome if AI spawns were more reliable, spawned closer to players, that there wasn’t insane hotspots and that AI actually filled my stomach more. as an allo it doesn’t provide much or itleast it feels like it doesn’t . Currently on test the game feels like avoid the T rex’s simulator because regardless of where I go there’s about 50 of them all best friends all well fed all ready to send me to oblivion and thanks to that there’s not enough AI in most spaces or if there is I’m fighting with the apex predator and his 7 buddies who are somehow fast quiet and have the touch of god.

drowsy jungle
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There needs to be a serious look at AI spawn for aquatic life. Based on the limited runs I had on my Deino, I noticed time and again that Boars and Deer were spawning all around me, but not a single school of fish or Elite Fish. Being the slowest on land, this serves almost zero purpose to a Deino, because I have almost no chance in catching them by foot. It's quite literally wasting my AI spawn ticks on Land AI instead of giving me a sustainable food source.

The new spear fishing mechanic is wonderful for PT's but while that drastically improves sustainability for PT's, it does almost nothing for Deino's. My suggestion would be to instead allow each large body of water to have a consistent spawn timer that meets/matches a dedicated spawn count. IE: North Lake can have up to 10~ schools that spawn randomly throughout the lake, and another 10~ elite fish that can spawn throughout the lake. Give more depth to the lakes and allow the schools to spawn under water along with the Elite Fish. Create a desire to swim to the bottom of the lake.

While the Deino is an Apex, and it should be a moderate challenge to survive as Prime/Elder, it shouldn't come to a point where you're online and its low pop that day, so you're just going to die/starve. Provide additional aquatic AI (Larger than Elite Fish that only spawn in large lakes/bodies of water) that can help to sustain larger Deino's. Another option would be to allow Deinos to go "Noodling" underwater for Elite Fish as a food source as well.

I know AI aren't intended to be the end all be all, but currently, survival as a Deino is unruly and savage to an unnecessary degree. Getting spawn camped by larger Deino's that can't find a proper meal ruins the experience.

quiet sierra
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SLOW THE CHICKENS, RABBITS AND COMPIES DOWN!!!!!

lavish belfry
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Look into potentially extending AI spawn timers the more frequently they are eaten in an area to discourage camping. For example I believe Subnautica has a system where if you drain an area of resources or fish, initially it will bounce back, but the more often you do it, the longer and longer it takes for things to respawn, forcing you to do more than sit in one area. This might help reduce issues in future with large AI spawning in the same area over and over by forcing the game to move them elsewhere.

smoky sable
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It’d be nice if the carnivorous AI, like chickens and Compies, were more bold and attacked things larger than themselves. ESPECIALLY the Compies since they seem to actually travel in groups now. I’d love to get jumped by like five of these little critters as practice for getting jumped by actually dangerous packs, and it would look like iconic Compie behavior. Also, Dactyls already do this to their larger, predatory, playable counterpart to steal fish, so make the Compies a little vicious please, and they can run away once one dies (also like Dactyls).

Super happy to see them back and fairly common, compared to chickens at least. Keep up the AI improvements! It’s noticeable and it’s working!

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obtuse helm
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Being a deisonuchus is a terrible experience. It's very difficult to grow one because there isn't a single fish on the entire map. Please fix that.

uneven dust
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Maybe add some bigger fresh water ai for deino and future river-living dino (like fresh water turtles)

smoky sable
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Dactyls are invisible (again), if y’all weren’t already aware. I tested it a couple times and they never hurt me mid-air, but they ate my food when I landed.

Something similar has happened in the past, so I hope y’all can find em without much trouble, out on the edge of the skybox or wherever they’re hiding.

feral hatch
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Bring back Dryo AI so that tiny and small hunters can also get AI with organs.

Dryo should be the most common AI dinosaur.

Galli (medium)

Diablo (few)

dense snow
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Remove the ai diabloceratops pretty please

short island
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Keep AI spawns constant instead of there being common spawns one moment and the next there's nothing on the entire map

blissful remnant
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(HT) Please add turtle and crab spawns to the Dam/Northern Jungle beaches. They would be a lifesaver to fresh spawn PTs when spearfishing isn't available so much of the time.

delicate heron
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make so if you're swimming in ocean for too long there's a small % chance an AI mosasaurus spawns and hunts you

smoky sable
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These little bastards definitely pounced on my half grown Allo like a day before this, so it feels weird that they are all terrified of my fresh spawn Dryo?? I like them being aggressive for carnivores, so they’re easier to catch, but it’d be nice if they also attacked herbivores, as a teaser of getting pounced by animals that can actually kill you.

Unless they just attack animals of higher weight unlike hogs and such, in which case, that’d be neat. Some documentation on their intended behavior would be nice too, if it exists.

muted oar
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I think I cracked how the AI works here,
There can only be a certain amount of AI's in one area, fx 3 fish schools, 2 deer and 1 boar.
Now if you eat all the fish, it makes room for new spawns, but the 2 deers and 1 boar will stay there until they get killed.
This might be the reason that you feel like there are no AI's at all, because they are all clumped together in a small spot that no one has been.

This becomes a slight problem for deino players and vice versa, deinos cant really chase down deers, rabbits, boars and goats - And most carnivores cant kill/eat fish.

Now,
I reckon AI's should after 20 minutes of being alive and untouched, lay down and slowly start dying while crying and making noises, so it gives us a chance to kill them before they die themselves.

This means that that AI spot becomes active again, and new AI can spawn in other spots in the area, that might be available for others to eat so they arent completely useless.

(Picture) This is one of those small "glitch" spots where no one goes to check, that I randomly found all the AI's at, causing there to be zero other AI

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grand cape
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Clams get stuck in the Pt mouth

thorn gyro
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Deer makes Extreme high bleed effect

smoky sable
young ferry
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Increase AI and add some new type of AI

short island
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Make AI spawns consistent, rather than inconsistent in which there are either AI everywhere like they should be, or there's none on the entire map. And while you're at it, add more AI spawns because I just died to starvation in an enormous field of tropical plants and bushes because there was no dinos and more importantly, no AI.

sinful sandal
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The goats slide around with no animation and if you hit them when you are fresh spawn you go deaf with how loud it is

short island
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Fix crab turtle spawns, because see crabs legit spawn nowhere and turtles only spawn on west rail access beach.

blissful remnant
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This is something I've noted for a long time in regards to the AI in this game. They sound much closer to you than they actually are. It makes it really hard to estimate how far away they are in the undergrowth when they sound like they're a foot in front of you, but are actually 15 feet away. I screw up my hunting all the time cuz I can't tell if that deer is actually screaming right next to me or if its in the next stand of trees. It's not that I have bad headphones-- i have sennheisers that have really good 3d sound in general.

timber echo
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please increase fish spawns. deinosuchus literally have the most difficult time on spawn (which 9/10 is swamp) you can barely grow up like at all. or at least add different Ai to the diet. growth is basically stunted because the only thing we can eat to survive is deer or boar that decided to take a swim. or at least add ocean ai spawns, i mean its the ocean...

rose flax
pallid raptor
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I know there's already 8 million complaints about this but trying to grow a deino right now is so difficult and bad, I've had to just log out of my deino on officials or else it'd starve, please fix the elite fish/make fish ai spawns more consistent :(

cobalt tartan
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Please make the ai boars stop screaming constantly like theyre getting skinned allive. Its really annoying and makes me go mad. I have no problem with the small sounds they make but 24/7 broadcast screaming like theyre ready to fight god is just useless and annoying for everyone involved. Please fix

hot mesa
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let's us sniff ai because at some point you cant even find some and fix the ai spawn since sometime you can schearch everywhere and find nothing and sometime it's impossible to survive as a baby

jaunty lance
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I don’t think the final product should include ai playables

smoky sable
# jaunty lance I don’t think the final product should include ai playables

I’ve seen this concern a few times, and I think the solution would be to reskin the AI playables to be a visually distinct. The behavior between a player and their AI version is already different, so re-skinning AI Galli to a feathered Strutheomimus would result in the two species playing differently as well.
And you could distinguish them in different ways. Hypsirophus for example looks almost identically to Stegosaurus, but you could give it a very different pattern and selection of colors, so it’s easy to tell AI from players.

atomic mesa
short island
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Make deer slightly faster because they legit hit a 1990s jog away from you, after you just trucked them with a carno. To balance deer becoming faster, create an ambush mechanic for AI. Allow the player to crouch close a certain distance to the AI before being spotted, rather than every single species, including hypsi and dryo for some reason, getting within 15 feet of a deer and it runs away.

summer epoch
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NO DEER - NO BOAR - NO DIBBLE - NO GALLI - NO GOAT - SAD CARNIS 💔 😢 😓 TI_Boar

icy flame
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When AI makes noises have it show up as a signal on the scent display to help those of us with hearing issues

normal void
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remove ai dibbels from the game there is no challenge growing an apex ik that they are temporary but still they shouldnt go live

violet kelp
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Move ai dibbles to swamps to encourage players to go there. Right now, swamps is a completely dead zone devoid of all life. Putting a very valuable source of nutrients there would encourage more players into the biome. Swamps is also difficult for any dinosaur to traverse, and with the number of deinos living there, it would give more of a challenge to players trying to hunt easy, sustainable AI. If diablo isn't the right fit for the swamp biome, consider changing them to AI tenos- some sort of dinosaur that enjoys marshland.

opal flicker
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Rework AI spawns in general

Before the AI was disabled, there was a BIZARRE spawning methodology to AI. Dibbles, boars, turtles and deer were exceptionally common, while other AI was shockingly rare. Then, when AI was removed, suddenly I noticed growth feeling satisfying, players being spread out, and a wider variety of growth. However, small animals like troodon and ptera suffered, given how reliant they are on AI for growth or survival.

My suggestion is pretty simple, shift spawning preference to animals like rabbits, frogs, crabs and chickens, while making larger AI like boars, deer and turtles rarer. Small AI should be like schooling fish and larger AI should be like elite fish (okay maybe not that rare but you get the point).

Not only does this make sense (all of these smaller animals typically are found in crazy high populations irl), this enables smaller animals and makes it far more difficult to grow mid-tiers and apexes off AI alone, forcing actual hunts and engagement.

As for dino AI... personally I'd just not add it since all it's been doing is feeding said megapacks with little contest, but ultimately that's a side-issue to my main point of making a more varied and fun ecosystem with less emphasis on AFK/AI growing.

lavish belfry
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A possible change for dino AI to get the benefits of no-ai servers without screwing over carnis who want to join low pop servers!

Make dino AI take up empty player slots. Then as servers get filled, there are less and less AI, but more players to fill in those niches.

This way carnivore players can still grow on empty servers just like herbivores, while the lower AI count on full servers will be less of a burden and gradually make the ecosystem balance itself out just as non ai servers naturally do.

obtuse grove
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It'd be cool if fish could spawn in the swamp. Especially with being able to spawn there as a deino👌 👌

smoky sable
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Please put Compies on Pteranodon’s diet, right next to Troodon. Fits, and also they’re fun to grab while they’re swimming.

uncut agate
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Make ai not give diet after 50% and the problem of afk and megapacks will be solved u will make ppl want to go for players and ai is just for not dying of starvation when traveling

smoky sable
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Oh, and Dactyls are invisible again.

vagrant jacinth
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the fish are flying again

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dense goblet
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Everytime I leave the delta region to explore the map, I am forced to go back because the AI in any other spot is unsustainable. All of the AI clumps together on that one spot, and makes every other area a deadzone.

tiny rune
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Not sure if anyone mentioned this, but. . .

  1. More consistent and realistic behavior
    If an AI dinosaur decides to run, it should fully commit to running. If it decides to fight, it should actually fight. Right now they constantly switch between fleeing and attacking, which makes their behavior feel confused and unrealistic.

  2. Smarter spawning based on player activity
    AI dinosaurs should only spawn when there aren’t many players playing that species. This would help fill the gaps for dinos that aren’t chosen often, giving smaller carnivores more appropriate prey instead of forcing them to go after large herbivores (which most players tend to pick). This change would also make the world feel more alive.

  3. Remove fixed spawn zones
    Static spawn points are predictable and easily abused by large carnivores, who camp them for free food. Randomizing their spawn locations would prevent this and push predators to explore the map instead of staying in one spot forever.

I haven’t played in about two weeks, so if any of this has been updated or the AI has changed, feel free to correct me.

floral wind
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AI is wayyyy louder than normal dinos, to the point where a hog sounds like its right by you when its 100s of feet away

edgy rapids
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can we PLEASE, tone down the boar audio? the calls are driving me nuts..or add a slider for ai sounds

short island
echo inlet
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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE add more fish..... so hard as a croc to grow. only way is to eat other crocs for food

smoky sable
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Have the AI Dibble actually phalanx at the first sign of trouble, so you’re only getting to them through those armored faces. As is, they scatter and swap between running and fighting, which lets Rex packs just pick them apart and kill every single one, one by one. Though maybe make their reaction based on species or weight, so a Carno or a Cera can still try to get a kill on a disorganized herd.
Players and real life animals will react differently to bigger threats, so I think it’s kindof vital for AI to be able recognize a predators’s size (which i think chickens at least do when they switch from aggressive to fearful as you get bigger).

Do the phalanx so that they’re actually a challenge to take down and could kill a careless or reckless Rex player. That or make them better at running away from Rexes, so they’re hard to catch up with.

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floral wind
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Deer shouldn't attack things at all, especially does, their very skiddish animals

snow sequoia
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remove dibble ai asap

granite grove
pseudo star
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Wish there was ai in the water haven’t played since it was broken with the one update a while ago played this week and still can’t find any fish just a bland empty river

modest geyser
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Back in Spiro's day, we could tell where fish were by their movement in the water; this was a much more realistic way to identify fish than seeing them jumping in slow motion out of the water.

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gray tartan
pseudo star
feral hatch
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AI should have swimming speed and not just run in water

proven dove
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bring back baby ai

pale bluff
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ai need fall damage and better collisions. On HT Ai is falling of a cliff and survived it. Also if you hunt AI they running up cliffs and you are lost in front of it

smoky sable
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Dactyls are still invisible. They were working perfectly a couple patches ago, but they are completely un-eatable AGAIN.

trim mist
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Maybe prioritize Fish for Deino and not Boars.. been trying to grow a Deino on HT and can't even find any food because only Deer, boar, rabbit, and chickens spawn... I can't hunt those, so I just starve and die.

pseudo star
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Everyone in here begging for ai fish to be fixed for months now and it hasn’t been addressed not a single time by the dev team or even mentioned lol this discord and dev team is a absolute joke but they’ll continue to rush and pump out updates that continually break the game. Deino has practically been unplayable for months now especially on official and even in community. im talking to you Dondi. I just want to be able to play the game I love and can’t

crisp onyx
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Please just drop the “currently in development” dinosaurs and fix the AI system. Most people can’t even PLAY THE GAME due to the lack of food. DEINO is currently unplayable do to the bugged fish. Please stop with the game breaking updates and fix the game.

red kettle
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Either fix the AI or give carnivores WAY slower food drop and more nutrients from eating.

wide barn
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Fix the ai problem or the game will die

trim mist
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Turtles need to Rot faster. Currently, they take 35minutes, shouldn't be more than 20minutes.

upper relic
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just got the game recently, and have stopped playing, because ill boot it up and then spen 4 hours trying to find food only to find MAYBE one boar, and then proceed to starve to death, i just straight up dont find anything as Deino, and as Herbis its not clear to me, what plants are actually edible.

smoky sable
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I’ve watched as few as two Rex, only one full grown, pick apart 5-6 Ai Dibble, because the Ai panics and scatters. So the Rexes just kill them one by one, no sweat.

My main recommendation here is to make an actual Hadrosaur Herd/nesting ground that is populated by Several BIG Ai Hadrosaurs and their babies.

Zones:

  • Have the Ai judge threat by weight. A fresh spawn raptor is invisible, but an adult is a threat. Chickens already do this in game. Also bees, but the size of a T-Rex.
  • Troo and Oviraptor and other tiny carnivores will be able to roam around the nests un-harmed UNLESS they stand on a nest or steal an egg, but again, run out of the Zone and the Hadro will forget you.
  • Standing on nest will trigger a warning slap, so big herbivores run the constant risk of being bullied.
  • Even if you are a Trike, the Buddy System will get you killed if you wander in and think you can just bully The Herd.

Buddy System:

  • Pick a big Hadrosaur that is at LEAST as big as Rex. I drew Lambeosaurus, but anything in that weight class would work.
  • Within their Zone, each Ai Hadro watches one other Hadro in a chain, so that every Hadro is watched by another.
  • Player carnivores will need to hard focus one animal, or risk snowballing the ENTIRE herd into combat.
  • If an Ai Hadro in the chain dies or despawns, the others just shift their buddy target to the next Hadro in the chain.

WATER:

  • On a schedule, have a small group of 1-3 Hadrosaurs leave their Zone to path to the nearest water source to drink. Player hunters will want to strike then, while they’re far enough from the zone that The Herd can’t back them up. Also, it’s a BIG Ai animal going to water consistently. Deino rejoice.
  • There will always be animals coming and going.

So, the TLDR is, make them organized and a huge threat in a group, but give them a consistent reason why one or two will isolate themselves from time to time.

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tulip walrus
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i would like more schooling fish reason is: i died multiple times now as ptera because there were no fish(or crabs, turtles have to much hp)

winter magnet
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I think there should be little lizards or something that spawn in sanctuaries that act like the sanctuary mushrooms that herbivores have. Once you are too big for sanct, they go off your diet. I think schooling fish should act like this for crocs as well. Hit a certain size, no more diet.

smoky sable
smoky sable
# smoky sable I’ve watched as few as two Rex, only one full grown, pick apart 5-6 Ai Dibble, b...

MORE! I’m just having fun at this point, but I like the idea of an Ai Hypsi-like inside of sanctuaries the most, so even if a baby Carnivore can’t find any players, there’s something to hunt that will fight back that won’t just slaughter them like deer and boar. Or just steal an egg and run!
Also Troodon colonies would have a reliable, though threatening, food source. I couldn’t pick an actual animal for this Ai though. There are too many small Hypsi-like dinos.
Zapmoxes if you want a girthy little guy, a Heterodontasaur if you want teeth, Isasicursor for basically just Dryo, or Chakisaurus for a tiny guy.

Either way, getting an Ai to climb like Hypsi sounds like a nightmare, so maybe just let it jump on specific things.

And for that last one, I just like the Idea of Hypodraco as basically an Ai Dryo that’s bigger and has thumb spikes, so they can stand up to mid sized carnivores. I’m just not sure where to put them that Rex can’t reach other than across a lot of water. It’d be cool if the big islands had populations.

I’m less worried about Taco, since their burrows seem to spawn in pairs now and are basically this, minus the agro bull Taco.

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lethal bloom
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Put schooling fish on the diet for juvi deinos. It’s almost impossible for deinos to get decent diet from the start (elite fish will kill you and you can’t grab them until your hunger bar has depleted at least twice and I barely ever see frogs) and they give the same diet as the starting diet so you won’t boost the growth rate too much by giving a new diet. Rotting the schooling fish is a neat trick, but I don’t see why it’s not on there to begin with.
You can remove the fish at the later stages, like with sanctuary mushrooms, as they don’t give any food then anyway.

Feel free to ping me if you have issues with the suggestion, trying to see if it can be improved upon.

wide barn
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Honestly I think adding fish back to the game in any capacity would be a great start, if we have to rot the fish to get the nutrient, I agree why not just give it to us

reef lily
jovial venture
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can we give ai blood pools nothing worse then using almost all of your stam on a boar as a juvie and tracking it for ages and it never bleeds out

plain salmon
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im so tried of playing deino and not having boar and deer on our diet plz make this happen!

gray idol
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I just want to say it where the f is the fish if this is a bug then why haven't they have fixed it?

frail laurel
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Fix fish, or honestly just remove Deino at this point. Literally unplayable unless you have a ubereats....

quaint cape
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bring back ai dinos. we cannot raise super predator without big prey. it literally dies from hunger after reaching sub-adult

young ferry
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Where is the fish? 🙁

tidal raft
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In my opinion, the main priority right now is to fix the AI because it makes no sense to play Deino when 80% of deaths are due to starvation. Literally, the times I've gotten far are due to luck because I almost never find fish.

merry wagon
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FIX THE HIGHLAND AI SPAWNS!
Over an hour running around the entire Highlands area with only 1 Deer in an obscure spot on the side of a mountain and 1 Goat (found at literal last second before death of starvation.)
That is ridiculous.

left tusk
gray idol
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in my opinion the should fix the fish and bring back the old map

short island
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Fix AI. Their spawns are 100% perfect after the update. But they're still stupidly OP. As a Juvi Rex, it's either starve, scavenge a body, or kill an AI. To start, scavenging is almost impossible because there's almost always a fully grown allo across the field waiting to pin you. And killing an AI means spending the next 10 minutes biting a boars butthole while it trots away until it hits 50% health and starts running and swinging its head around. Deer are off the menu because they're not deer, they're skinwalkers. You get too close to a deer and it breaks its neck and stares into the sky as it runs at you trying to kick your face off. I just chased a boar for 5 minutes and it ran into a tree briefly, then got free, ran 5 feet, and then 2 shot me. I lost 20 minutes of gametime because of this. Dondi, I shouldn't have to go AFK for the first 30 minutes of my rex's life in order to be able to get food. Every single body I've ever found since this patch has been camped by Allos or Carnos or any other carnivore. I spent an hour growing my Rex just to get slimed by a troodon because it took 20% of my health every second it was on me. The troodon was 1/4 my size! Please fix the balancing and make AI actually killable for Juvis, because right now the survival rate is freaking zero. I've spawned at least 30 times as Rex since the patch released, and I've only grown Rex past 50% 1 time. And that was because my friend had a group of Allos a few hours after the update released and they were protecting me. Despite this unfair advantage I had, I lost that Rex because the server I was playing got taken down! So my suggestion is that you guys make AI more killable for juvis because not everyone wants to be nested in or have others protecting them for the first 3 hours of their life.

valid lance
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How come after sooooooo many updates and new dinos, fishes are still not there, somehow managed to do the entire delta,swamp and north lakes and only found 1 fish. Just remove deino at this point

pale folio
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Deer are getting on my nerves. Can’t eat them as a young rex, can’t catch them, been killed by more as a juvie than I’ve eaten. Especially having just got the game it’s lame

heady thicket
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Pteradactyls are invisible and untouchable. Fish do not spawn anymore. Fix this please

crystal ferry
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it is really frustrating that people are complaining about fish population (which is zero) for a veeeery long time and devs are not giving a damn about this. playing deino is just waste of time. keep adding more dinos devs. good job

gray idol
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the part that im mad about is last year there was bunches of fish and now zero

ocean rune
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I was having a hard time finding fish too but I've been finding them a lot recently, so it could just be bad timing

narrow sable
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Spawn rate seems to be extremely inconsistent across map rn. Seeing an extreme amount of AI in jungle sector 1 but little to no AI in other areas of the map

old mortar
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i get that the ai is suppose to give juvis a hard time but they turn on a darn dime and when you least expect it its unnatural and dose not give me the opportunity to pounce on it due to it instant tuning to face me witch puts me in a stun then im just dead

slate goblet
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Check the behaviour of rabbits. They swarm bodies like scavangers and one rabbit ate a whole dibble-ai straight up and left only bones. If you carry a piece of meat or a body, the rabbits follow you to snatch that food. Crazy stuff. I can understand that you need scavangers like the compi, but rabbits? That's not monthy python.

mossy socket
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fix the goat spawns. ran around the entire map didnt see or hear a single one. kinda hard to get a perfect diet when a quarter of the nutritions doesnt spawn

pale bluff
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Dino-Ai settings for game.ini.
let us decide, which of them we want ingame.
including dibble-ai from HT

vernal wasp
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make the AI spawns more consistent, sometimes ill have all too much spawning on me its overwhelming, sometimes ill only find boar for an hour or more, sometimes i roam the beaches in search of turtles, just to not find any for 2+ hours, and after all that they dont bleed so it makes them very hard to kill as juvis who rely on bleed, like allo, raptor, or just in general. chasing an AI so it bleeds to death is much better than tail riding it for 5 minutes just to run out of stam and not have it die. (i know you guys are working on the AI bleeding, but maybe prioritize it a little more, i dont know how weve gone so many years without AI bleed...)

wispy yarrow
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Yesterday while playing as a pair of rex's me and a friend found a gallimimus glitches out on a tree getting attacked by some bees

wide barn
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Fish spawns have been broken for more then a year now

timid quiver
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the fact that AI can hear deino swimming fully underwater is insane. it's an ambush predator, and I can't ambush any food. the deer that are designed to be food for players will hear me before I can even see them, then gallop off to the other side of the island

midnight linden
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Fix fish AI pls!

charred quail
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Ai for small playables (Mainly Troodon) are extremely difficult to work with, make it so ai burrows spawn naturally inside sanctuaries so carnivores can at least get food there if no herbivores or other players are there

smoky sable
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Pteradactylus are still broken. They were working just before the update that added Compies back into the game, so PLEASE compare with that version and fix them (again).

Dactyls are one of my fav AI to eat, since there’s genuinely a knack to killing one without losing a ton of HP, so it’s frustrating that this one AI keeps getting broken, then fixed, then broken again. They were working GREAT.

stoic yew
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Yet another FIX THE DAMN FISH. I thought you guys did something, as North Lake on Official NA #4 had a very consistent and healthy population that would have grown me to adult between drying school fish and munching on elites.

But, on the topic of school fish, they need to dry for 7 minutes. And, VERY short after, they despawn. And they don't show up as rotten, or summon flies, they just go from regular fish to despawned fish.

EDIT: I feel like it would be a pretty simple fix to prioritize aquatic AI spawns if there is a Deino or Ptero, or whatever that penguin thing is, in the area. And, if the Deino is underwater, code in the means to make AI ignore them.

vague briar
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Happy to see that frogs are back!

strong sand
fading forum
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how about bring the mega fish back already?
Edit: How about making me able to see them too 🥲

next raven
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AI spawns are either broken or you guys need to specify EXACTLY where AI will spawn. I just spent 20 minutes flying around the northern beach behind the dam looking for turtles or crabs, and nothing happened. I then tried my luck at the beach at the western edge of the map with a new ptera (cause, y'know, can't really become prime elder when I can't find sh!t) and voilà. Same with frogs; in the menu, it says they spawn in water biomes, yet I was only able to find a single one at the dam lake and heard another spawn in a cave inside a mountain that had a pond or something. I was at the big swamp and delta a few times as well now and all that spawned there were deer, boars and some rabbits. The former two seem to be the only AIs that spawn sufficiently and reliably.

echo pecan
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bring back avas, oros, and tacos!

graceful yew
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they really need to up the AI spawn rate

smoky sable
crude plank
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I feel like when AI try to fight the player, they have a good balance in how they do it. It's not just "path to player -> when player is within attack hitbox, attack" like some other games. They seem to attack when the player gets close, letting you kind of... bait out attacks. I seem to have a really decent time doing this against deer and it's really fun and I enjoy it a lot! It's not, in the end, all that different from how players attack.

That being said, there's some issues with ai movement that I'd personally like to see addressed. When they get spooked, they seem to just kinda... keep running? For like, sometimes minutes at a time. And then wherever they end up, they just kinda stay there until they are killed or the server restarts. Sometimes that's up against a wall. Sometimes it's... in the middle of a river. On hordetest, I followed an Ai dibble's tracks after I'd spooked it and it ran from the usual spawn in the delta almost up to the sanctuary in northern jungle before it went back to idle pathing around the area. I feel like it could be relatively simple to have the Ai try to path every... five minutes or so, towards the nearest region that AI type could spawn in. I'm not gonna tell you how to code, I just think adding a general direction for the meandering ai to go in if they get chased way far away might ensure they get eaten... eventually... and not clutter up the server so much.

ancient birch
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BRING BACK THE FISH THE DIENO CANNI IS STUPID HIGH Eliete fish specifically they arent spawning in water access at all or in rivers

strong sand
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peak experience, playing as a deino feels like being a beggar—especially during the juvi stage, when most of your food depends on other players pushing AI into the water for you.
even then, the AI will start running away at this distance, even if you’re sitting completely still

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wispy gull
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Nice to see bullfrogs spawning more frequently but they are no less broken.

When they hit the water they turn sporadic. After luring or waiting for them to come back onto land, they become insanely fast (for like three seconds before normal speed but by then its usually too late to react to) and are back in the water to freak out again. Cycle repeats.

Lucky to catch one that's spawned too far from water to get the "speed boost" or one stuck somewhere.

smoky sable
# wispy gull Nice to see bullfrogs spawning more frequently but they are no less broken. Whe...

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Bullfrogs especially are not fast, and I don’t know of any frog that zips around like the frogs in game. Every frog I’ve ever met has always stuck to standing still as a stone until touched, or until you’re at an appropriate distance (like birds) at which point they dive for safety (unlike birds, who do the opposite of dive).

I would recommend making the bullfrogs in game more like real life bullfrogs: slow, truculent, aggressive, and territorial. Have them stick to their spawn like a magnet, willing to dive into water if a threat shows up, but eager to get back and willing to bite a tiny fresh spawn.
Also, I think it would be more than appropriate to spawn them in mud, where big carnivores won’t be able to keep up with an Ai that is MADE for mud, but maybe small stuff like Troo, Beipi, and Austro could.
Bullfrogs give so little food that, at the speeds they currently move, they are not worth chasing at all, even as things that are meant to eat them. I’ve literally never caught one as Ptera, Troo, Herera, or anything else. I only know how much food they’re worth because Tacos used to catch them.

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errant imp
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After a few months of inactivity I wanted to play Deinosuchus again cuz hes my favorite. The level of disappointment I experienced during the last two days of ATTEMPTS to play is indescribable. The fish AI is absolutely broken - not broken, it simply isn't there anymore. Before, Deinosuchus gameplay was pretty clear - eat small fish - eat big fish - hunt dinosaurs. Now I feel like the biggest poor guy on the map, literally waiting for some deer or pig to deign to go into the water so I don't starve to death - which will happen later anyway, because a bigger croc simply can't survive that way. One option is to be a cannibal, so we have to patrol the river non-stop in an attempt to find a smaller croc that we can eat. The Herbies are hooked - they just go to the safe spot to drink and I figure that no one wants to play with a crocodile anymore. I'm glad that three new dinosaurs have been added since I last played (trike, rex and allo). I just can't understand why it's such a problem to focus on fixing something that broke the game for everyone instead of focusing on adding new features for a while. On behalf of the entire crocodile community, I hope that these issues are resolved and we can hunt well again and have fun again. RIP Deinosuchus

white tiger
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I'm not sure if this falls under the AI ​​category, but the herbivore food supply needs rebalancing.

Large herbivores are devastating migration zones; the plants currently on the Isle need to be given more resources.

tepid sage
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Deer and boar ai should not be able to stop, turn and attack all within .1 seconds

frail laurel
little sequoia
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why exactly is taco now as well running faster than troodon? are we not supposed to eat anything anymore?

proper estuary
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Elite Fish in rivers are very rare and bugged. I've encountered three of them in 5 hours of gameplay, and only in the main rivers. Furthermore, they don't move at all; they're stuck in one place, bugged. Growing a crocodile is currently a pain. There's also a bug with the crocodile's vision; other dinosaurs don't light up when drinking from the bank or swimming in the river. Add more frogs that swim. Add a diet for small schools of fish.

bleak flicker
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Stop bunnies from eating meat on dead bodies

earnest dagger
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Can we add elite fish spawns in ponds back please 😀. I also feel like due to not much semi aquatics, fish ai spawns should be priorities in the global ai count rather than others like chickens / rabbits

weak rain
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The Elite Fish is SO BAD stuck in walls Despawn and there are too few

summer cloud
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I saw a lot of turtles in the hordetest but haven't seen any since the update. I feel like more beaches should have them. Heard west rail is best but hoping there's other spawns. I tried the spots on the vulnona map and still couldn't find any...

viscid dome
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Ur goats aren't working right and Fish there still big issue

cosmic frost
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I've only played as a deinosuchus and I'm on my 10th attempt. I haven't seen a single fish or frog since my very first time spawning in on my first attempt. WHY ARE THE AI FISH BUGGED?

uneven fog
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New patch, no mention of fish? For the love of god, please fix Elite fish.

tender sail
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FIX AI FISH PLS. AND WHY ISNT SMALL FISH DIET?

wide barn
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Fish ai has been broken for more then a year now, more then 365 days without fish…I swim across delta sometimes by the bridge and never get caught by a deino cause no one plays them anymore 😔

smoky sable
# smoky sable Thank you, devs! I love you!

Looks like my last feedback got deleted, but the Dactyls are back again, so thank you devs! I’ll keep checking when new updates drop.

Also, I noticed now that they don’t hurt you any more, they just make you drop your food. I kinda preferred picking where I dropped it, but this is probably the better way anyhow. Safer overall.

sullen wraith
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HOW ABOUT WE LET DEINOS CATCH THE SCHOOLS OF FISH INTEAD OF TELEPORTING AWAY!!!!

quiet cove
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Do less big ai like boar and deer and do more little like chickens and rabbit, little pters and back the frogs! I didn't see it from early rex hordetest plus why crabs get new model that didn't have move animations? That just absurd when you see rolling crab and where is our rats, butterfly, dragonfly and other?

hushed rose
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schools of fish seen flying in the air up north in delta.

nova rune
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Deer and boar should rot faster

silent light
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Certain AI, like boars, deer, goats and maybe taco's should periodically go and "drink" from a water source if one is nearby to open up more ambush opportunities for both crocs and other carnis.

Could really help AI feel slightly more dynamic since they are very simple at the moment. Cool idea.(moved to correct channel)

weary quarry
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Please make Elite fish spawn in more sections of the rivers( its currently at 1 fish per section/body of water... Also make them swim around again, Right now they just sit in place and are hard to spot.

Ive been in the waters before a restart and after, in a whole day of gaming most Ive seen was 2 elite fish in all my traveling as a deino.

hollow shore
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AI can spot deino underwater dud

plain cosmos
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It shouldn’t take me 15 minutes as a fresh spawn allo to (maybe) kill a boar, and then for it to 2-tap me :,) maybe make it so juvi’s/fresh spawns have an easier time getting AI so we’re not in a cycle of dying because we can’t get our own food

gentle dune
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Ai galis are faster than 50% grown allos and thats really sad. i starved to death trying to chase one. please make them a tad slowerr

smoky sable