#general-feedback-discussion

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left geyser
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Well I heard it was really weak in legac

hybrid matrix
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A good Cera can kill a rex

glass swan
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if u know how to play cera, u can literally kil anything

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its NOT weak

cyan flame
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What? Cera is not impressive at all in legacy? It bleeds out to very few bites, and that's about it

hybrid matrix
cyan flame
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Cera is rather weak in legacy, not worth playing at all really

glass swan
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i love playing cera, idk wym. they arent that strong but theyre good if u know how to play them

left geyser
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Ye

glass swan
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they for one can kill anything smaller than it

left geyser
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Maybe it shouldn't be inedible unless it regularly eats margys?

cyan flame
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Which is what, dryo, if you can catch them. Maybe a utah if they're dumb enough to fight you :p

glass swan
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the only thing i dont fuck with in legacy are dibbles

left geyser
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Kind of like real animals can steal poison from there prey and use it

glass swan
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things cera can EASILY kill in legacy are: utah, dilo, para and anything lower than that. thing cera can kill if ur good: allo, sucho, trike, rex.

cyan flame
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Yeah, no

glass swan
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then ig u werent a good cera idk what to say

cyan flame
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Dilo bleeds you out in one bite pretty much, and the rest will just absolutely slaughter you

glass swan
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ceras can chase down dilos and kill them in 2 bites...

cyan flame
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Pretty sure dilos are faster

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So that was a dilo that did not plan its approach at all then :p

glass swan
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idk, dilos were mostly the easiest thing for me to kill/survive from because they fucked off after the first bite on them

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and the stupid cera turn didnt help it either

cyan flame
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As for the rest, what allo or sucho is not going to just turn and kill you? Para I can grant you possibly, but even rex and trike should be able to turn good enough

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Maybe the dilos were just worried, they do die easily, but their bleed will kill you in one, max two bites

glass swan
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if a allo doesnt get in ambush u can ass ride it with ease

cyan flame
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And they can heal off their own bleed, then recover health and go for another

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Assriding is not a thing

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Alt turn, if you're not using that, your every argument is invalid since that's how the balance works :p

glass swan
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im honestly lost by what ur saying rn, the amount of things that me and many of my friends have killed as ceras is beyond me idk why theyre so bad in ur opinion

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the only thing i had the most trouble with are rexes with there broken bite and smart allos, everything else u just had to have patience with

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whatever, it just matters with the skill of the player ig

cyan flame
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They're bad if you play on a official server with alt turn, since then you can't assride

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Which means the rest of your stats and abilities matter, and then the bleed res and so on makes cera pretty atrocious

glass swan
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fuck alt turn, thats pussy shit

cyan flame
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And since official is what balance goes by in legacy, I'm judging the playables based on that

glass swan
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with alt turn, then cera fucking sucks ill give u that

cyan flame
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What happens on no alt is irrelevant since it's not how the balance is made or should be

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So while cera does work out great on no alt, it's just not a base for balancing because only official counts

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Same with any bugs happening on unofficials and all that :p

glass swan
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alt turn is the complete opposite of balanced, its a dino pulling a straight 180

cyan flame
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Not that legacy matters anymore, now we have built in alt turn xD

glass swan
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we have realistic turning now not just magically drifting around

cyan flame
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Well true, alt turn lacking anims made it rather weird :p But the result is the same more or less

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Realistic turning looks better obviously, but you can turn on the spot/and or otherwise avoid assriding

glass swan
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yea i nv liked assriding but it was inevitable in legacy so thats what made cera good

cyan flame
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True enough, though I wish cera was good otherwise, much as cerato rex wasnt ideal, it was fun :p

barren zephyr
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@idle barn Use this chat to talk, that one is in Slow Mode 6 hours

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@visual vault I just don't want it to be this carnival, I want everyone to be equal, equal in nature, maybe with a certain difference but nothing of great relevance.

hoary dawn
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skin system good

zealous violet
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People need an outlet to be unique in some aspect or another, thats one of the larger draws to why people remain with legacy- aside from the social aspect of nesting and global chat.
I agree there shouldnt be an neon pink dinos roaming about, but as long as a color is done in a realistic manner- take for example, the Ovi, then I am all for it.
We have crazy colors and patterns in nature that just looking at a swatch of it you'd think someone got a hold of a sparkle dog, but no, you place it on the actual animal and a tiger, a cheetah or a male peacock all look normal.

limber hull
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when the appearance of an animal is entirely up to speculation, it makes sense that in this game, you can choose how you want it to look

zealous violet
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^^^^^^^

barren zephyr
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Still, I think to look more natural, it would be better to make all animals of the same species identical, as they do in nature. A lion is no different from another lion.

left geyser
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Normally a threatened animal goes into a defense stance

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It just seems like common dino game knowledge is that dinosaurs move like cars with legs

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Turning radius should not be a thing

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Now I'm not saying rex should be able to find insta turn, which is why PoT has the best combat in combat stanes

compact hare
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Just add a filter to enable/disable skins
both sides get happy and thats it

left geyser
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You actually move like a living creature in pot

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Not a ducking car

limber hull
zealous violet
# limber hull Not true, there's always variation within any species

Take peacock and peafowl for instance. They look very dissimilar to each other so much so that many people have confused them for being different creatures.
Angler fish being another example.
https://www.thedodo.com/6-bizarre-animal-romances-fell-739003035.html
Heres a couple more examples. The moth one I think is the best.

The Dodo
Opposites Attract? 6 Species Where The Male And Female Look Nothing...

The Dodo serves up emotionally and visually compelling, highly sharable animal-related stories and videos to help make caring about animals a viral cause.

stray holly
zealous violet
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Fun fact, they did a test with female lions to see which mame color they preferred and turns out they like em dark.

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You know what they say-
jkjk

stray holly
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Glad other people feel the same way about the state of the game as I do.

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It just hasn’t had the same feeling since the stupid logout bug.

last lily
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I don't think we could get away with literally ripping off King Kong

stray holly
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Although I doubt copyright issues would arise

manic flint
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Since when was slowmode on in the discussion channel

Also a playable ape would not fit in with dinosaurs and prehistoric reptiles

limber hull
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monkey

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:)

hybrid matrix
# stray holly

This picture is surreal
It looks so fake and real at the same time

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Monke

pale bloom
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Reject Dinosaurs , return to Monke

stray holly
median ore
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Melanism in lions simply does not show up in the wild. It is likely that they do not survive, if any arise, for whatever the reason. Either that, or they simply don't have the genes for hyperpigmentation.

weak dune
# median ore Melanism in lions simply does not show up in the wild. It is likely that they do...

My guess would be melanistic lions don't show up in nature because they'd literally die of heat exhaustion. You're talking about some of the hottest areas on earth. There's a reason why a lot of desert animals have light colored fur and dark colored skin. Light colors reflect the heat to keep cooler, while dark skin underneath protects from harmful sun rays giving them shit like skin cancer

meager tiger
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Polar bears say otherwise lol

weak dune
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That's why you do sometimes see white lions even though they're extremely rare. They can at least keep cool

weak dune
meager tiger
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Yes and you said white for cool

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black for heat

weak dune
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They wouldn't be able to ambush anything if they were black 😐 You're comparing completely different areas of the world with completely different survival needs. Polar bears adapted thick fur and huge amounts of body fat, and white fur for camouflage. It is literally completely different issues

limber hull
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polar bears don't even have white fur

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its like a hollow clear fur i believe

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its the refraction of the sun that makes the fur appear white

weak dune
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Well yes but you get my point

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Color is relative to light anyway

limber hull
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but yea polar bears are technically black in colour but the light refraction and such helps make it appear white

weak dune
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I mean either way, it appears white to the eye, which helps with camouflage, but that's not the issue I was talking about anyway

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For instance, this horse looks white too. That's just its fur. Its skin is actually grey/black

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Its a desert breed of horse, so the white helps keep it cool, as well as makes it difficult to see on the desert because of how light and heat bounces off the sand.

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The people who tend to keep these breeds of horse actually consider black horses to literally be bad luck because 1) they overheat in the desert big time and 2) you can see them from WAAAAAY farther away

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That's why you also don't see shit like melanistic lions in nature. They get too hot, and you can see them from far away, so good luck hunting

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More to the actual point though, saying something like "Well all animals of 'X' type look the same, so we shouldn't have a unique skin system" is both dumb and ill-informed

paper oriole
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Hes comparing natural animals who evolved to look a certain way to fictional science experiments too which is an incredibly dumb comparison lol

weak dune
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I mean even comparing them to real animals, its kind of a dumb point because animals don't all look exactly alike

paper oriole
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And irl animals dont all have the same exact pattern with spots and stripes in the same places

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Isle dinos with skins only being able to mildly adjust opacity and shades would still leave every utah with the same exact spots, every stego with the same splotches on its back. Even clones tend to look more different than that

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Its unnatural, contrary to their argument

weak dune
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Yeah. Even animals that have a fairly "standardized" appearance (which is most non-domestic animals, lbh, that's how genes work), they're actually pretty unique from each other if you look. Not one of these lions are exactly the same. Some are actually wildly different, in color pattern, color shade, body type, fur pattern etc despite that none of them really fall into any weird "mutation" category like albinism or melanism

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If you had all of these lions side-by-side IRL and aren't basically blind, you could tell every individual apart, minus maybe 2-3 that are similar. But every one has something different that another doesn't have even if its a slight difference

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The only reason most people can't tell Animal A from Animal B is they don't work with them on a day-to-day individual basis

paper oriole
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albinish and melanish are exceptional mutations that shouldn't be so common in-game, but they are just extremes, you can often tell two normal male lions apart by their shading if youve seen them often enough, or tell chipmunks that visit the bird feeder regularly apart, etc

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they dont have copypasted stripes and patches like isle dinos

weak dune
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Yeah. And while Melanistic dinos might do fine, I'd be surprised to see any albino ones just because they'd probably get eaten lol

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Unless you play REALLY smart and stay away from other players until large enough to defend yourself, and even then

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A big, bright white dino that's not an apex like Deino or Psuedo-Apex like adult Stego is going to be a big huge target for all carni players to easily track

sacred moat
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that and so people dont try to treat it like a glimmer skin in bob

glass swan
paper oriole
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albinism shouldnt be completely random, it should require some sort of bad behaviour to be stuck with

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like parents with awful genes having a chance to spawn one, assuming we can view the parents and their colours, perks and condition in the upcoming nesting menu

glass swan
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Well without being too realistic it would be cool

paper oriole
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the game isnt all that realistic tbf

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if its not too far fetched its fine

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the isle has had some pretty far fetched shit lol

glass swan
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Yea

weak dune
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I mean I'm fine with people choosing white dinos of their own volition but good fucking luck dodging all the hungry carnis because you have nowhere to hide that people can't see you

glass swan
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Cuz albinism and be a random X chromosome mutation but yes, it is mostly inherited

weak dune
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Unless you WANT to be hunted and play hard mode Catch-Me-If-You-Can

paper oriole
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i dont want to see a bunch of banana raptors being shielded by their packs sitting at human settlements, on rocks and trees like we had in legacy

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thats gross

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all white/yellow/peach skins shouldnt just be some thing you can make

glass swan
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By chance I mean, a less than 1% and with the more genetically fucked up u get from inbreeding, the higher chances. Or just completely fuck the idea and never mention it again

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I’m fine with whatever

paper oriole
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with some nesting variations it could be possible to have unusually pale or dark skins but by default we shouldnt have wannabe albinos and melanistic dinos running around for most species

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in some its not as bad, like a mostly white beipi or a black velociraptor

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but that's exceptions

glass swan
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Yea, I don’t want super white/yellow Dino’s cuz it just makes the game ugly

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Only in Dino’s that should have those colors

paper oriole
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with bad parenting genes, the possibility for damning colour mutations wouldnt be bad as a possibility, on top of them already having a harder time making offspring it fits

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but just any rando getting slapped with a suicide skin is lame

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dinos who think its cool to breed with bad diet, negative perks, and general poor condition should have a much harder time

limber hull
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yea the bright yellow dinos weren't the best

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but who am i to talk i literally chose to make my dinos actively resemble the colour of shit

glass swan
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I feel like is someone got that random chance of albinism, it could easily just kill itself before it got anywhere in growth

paper oriole
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hey shit colour is good camo tho at least

paper oriole
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it should be a punishment and thats it

glass swan
paper oriole
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ive made pusposely disgusting skins in legacy just because i could but i dont wanna see it in evrima

glass swan
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But like I said, the chance u get a random albino spawn, would literally be slim to none

paper oriole
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my nasty skinrex. its funny but like ugh

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would take me right out of the game to see it in evrima

glass swan
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Looks like a penis

paper oriole
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lmao

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i called it my fleshrex

glass swan
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But like, that was mostly everyone’s skin

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And while it was funny, it made the Dino’s look unrealistic

paper oriole
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yeah just plain paste skin with variatio off

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i dont wanna see fleshrex anymore

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or fleshraptor or fleshmaia

glass swan
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#nomorefleshrex

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#nomorefleshcolors

paper oriole
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cover up that flesh

glass swan
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The only exception to flesh colors is for humans, and maybe therizinosaurids on places they don’t have feathers

paper oriole
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yeah thats fine, cus like thats normal

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feathered animals with the exposed skin, but the scaled ones can stay normal

glass swan
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Yea

paper oriole
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since feathers after all are just hairscales if you think about it

glass swan
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Ig lol

paper oriole
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Quetz having high hp and low attack seems backwards

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Like a few pecks for a young utah? Meh. Quetz should be a glass cannon, it can peck a utahs guts out but would also be maimed by a pounce

final peak
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Quetz could fend off large therapods at a carcass site in real life. No one is up for getting stabbed three meters deep by that beak but yes. Something sneaks up behind it with the force to fracture it. Its in trouble.

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Realistically. A quetz dropping its beak in a peck would IRL one shot anything around teno carno size for sure.

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Jeez, you do not want to be in the plains when that thing is flying over head. Think about it. With a neck so long it could deliver a fatal dive. just like ravens do with their similar beak shape. BUT because the beak is three meters long, any animal under attack would have to reach in excess of three meters to even have a chance of retaliating and hitting it back be it in the head/eyes or body. These things were crazy well designed by nature. They could hunt from the air, their long necks and beaks keeping the body out of reach, yet. When on land. Its almost impossible to approach it from the front due to the fact that an azhdarchid dropping its skull down on anything coming strait at it is NOT going to survive from the injury.

crisp lintel
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Currently it is thought that Azhdarchids (the group of pterosaurs that quetz belongs to) werent scavengers but something more akin to storks. Spending most of the time on the ground and also hunting there.

paper oriole
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@barren zephyr when he posted the theri pic, he likely meant he wanted more theri content in phase two, which makes his post befitting of that channel

ebon girder
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@torn hare already exists

paper oriole
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Meanwhile a post criticizing another post in phase two suggestions does not belong there

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Also yeah the devs, specifically Dondi's already got lore planned

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Its just a pic of theri, the skin is irrelevant unless he specifically asked for it

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Yeah a lot do, but that post just looks like it is asking for theri content

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Yeah words would help but a picture gets that message across

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Meanwhile theres an actual suggestion there right above the theri that looks like it doesnt belong lmao

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But adding more clutter to that channel is a bit hypocritical because that too doesnt belong

lavish quail
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@tired wagon they know about carnos clearly massive population

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but they clearly have worked on it for quite a bit

tired wagon
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By adding ai?

lavish quail
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plus we've been told that carno is gonna be balanced anyway

tired wagon
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We've been told, but we haven't seen it

lavish quail
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rn the problem is that utah is broken and deino/ptera werent released

tired wagon
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Last I played utah was dog shit

lavish quail
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When i hopped on stress test before the servers died there was far too many pachys

lavish quail
tired wagon
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People wanna play the new thing

lavish quail
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the carno population will drop anyway since pachy, deino and steg are just counters to it

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if a pachy hits a carno they cant do anything

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its too risky to attack it

tired wagon
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I wouldn't call deino a counter to carno...

honest sparrow
lavish quail
tired wagon
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2 carnos can kill a deino

lavish quail
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only if its in the middle of plains

tired wagon
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If they're well coordinated

lavish quail
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doing nothing to fight back

tired wagon
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Eh

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I've seen it in shallows

lavish quail
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with diets carno is kinda fucked by deino

tired wagon
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How so?

lavish quail
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they have to reason to kill it but it has every reason to do the opposite

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and as far as im aware they cant break its bones

tired wagon
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Honestly they shouldn't be able to

lavish quail
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without alot of effort that is

tired wagon
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The only thing that should break a deino's bones rn is stego

lavish quail
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stego should definitely not

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its a stabby thing

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not a brute force object

tired wagon
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Well it's got a giant thagomzer that, if it hits a bone, breaks the bone

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That's like saying trike shouldn't break bones bc it's horns are pointy

lavish quail
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well i cant see a stego doing that

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like headshots mabye

tired wagon
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I can see it in more fragile areas

paper oriole
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Stego should deal huge damage and bleed, he doesn’t also need fracture

lavish quail
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but leg breaks seems like a stretch

paper oriole
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Thats busted if he does 3 powerful things with one attack

tired wagon
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Not leg break

lavish quail
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deino after stun locking a stego

barren zephyr
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If a trike were to ram you yes it would break some bones, stego isn't a bruiser like trike tho

tired wagon
lavish quail
paper oriole
tired wagon
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High damage, bleed and bone break

paper oriole
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Deino deals mediocre damage and grabs, it isnt op

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Deino was op when it had beyblade alt bite

tired wagon
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Does it not have that anymore?

lavish quail
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oh god the beyblade...

paper oriole
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It tires itself out now

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It isnt a land gator anymore

lavish quail
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nah its not worth using alt bite in a fight unless its against another deino

tired wagon
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I see

lavish quail
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or a small creature

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such as utah

tired wagon
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Poor utah

paper oriole
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Utah and teno are so sad in qa

tired wagon
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Gets fucked by everything

paper oriole
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Tho i havent played with pachy out so idk if teno is still crippled

tired wagon
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Teno should be able to beat pachy imo

lavish quail
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anyway back to carno, its not overpopulated as of rn

tired wagon
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At least there's that

paper oriole
lavish quail
tired wagon
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I haven't played

lavish quail
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both cripple eachother

tired wagon
paper oriole
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teno should be able to beat the shit out of carno in a brawl

lavish quail
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teno still has advantage tho

paper oriole
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They really shafted poor teno

lavish quail
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if teno hits pachy it blends it to death

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teno is in a poor state

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it has too little stam for what it is

paper oriole
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Teno cant punish a carno being played by a toddler

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In qa last time i checked

tired wagon
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Buff teno and utah back to acceptable states!!

paper oriole
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I think utahs main issue is bugs and broken mechanics rather than straight numbers

lavish quail
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teno can shitstump a dumb carno

paper oriole
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Tenos main issue is numbers

lavish quail
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utah is fine stat wise

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honestly alot of combat rn is the better diet wins

paper oriole
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Utah pounce bounces it off even in situations where it should have landed like he's all oiled up

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Greaseraptor

tired wagon
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I feel like a utah v carno 3/4v1 should result in utah winning

lavish quail
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it will if the utahs fixed

tired wagon
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But rn carno destroys the full pack of 8

paper oriole
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Carno vs a utah pack is like a fox in a henhouse if the raptors dont book it and get lucky

lavish quail
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carnos problem was mega packs

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with the diet changes that doesnt work anymore

paper oriole
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Carnos problem was also it being able to decide the outcome of a fight with teno after landing its heavy hitter, while teno's heavy hitter got reduced to rubbish

low canopy
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unless new diet debuffs are actually meaningful that means nothing

lavish quail
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diets only gave debuffs before

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it was actually sad

tired wagon
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Didn't you have to get 100% diets to get to normal growth?

honest sparrow
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I still don’t get why they decided diets should nerf damage

quasi heath
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maybe cause a predator weak from malnutrition typically is too ill to be quite as effective as it would be otherwise

torn hare
paper oriole
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The devs have dropped snippets of lore related things before, they will release more when they feel like it but its clearly already planned to come

idle ibex
stray holly
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@echo marsh I posted this in the feedback channel yesterday. Just sad to see the state of the game right now.

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echo marsh
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Yeah i think they really just need a proper structure and deadlines set for them. Waiting this long is ridiculous..

barren zephyr
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I haven’t played much with pachy so far, but got in a brawl with a baby Utah about twice my size as a fresh spawn and despite that head charge sending him FLYING. Which is amazingly amusing- he tanked 2 and I died

crude girder
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@primal spear that's a known bug, no current fix for it

primal spear
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uff.. thx @crude girder

crude girder
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np, sorry about the inconveniences of it

ebon girder
lavish quail
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People only complaining about evrima bugs now?

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It’s been like 4 months

paper oriole
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May be due to the qa updates being up and still no bug fixes

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So people may be like “you're doing this but you can't fix the bugs?”

lavish quail
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Tbf instead of bug fixes we’re getting updates with 5x the speed

torn hare
ebon girder
# torn hare where can i find it?

its not like a story to read, but the devs give hints and im sure theres a video on youtube that sums up everything, just search for the isle lore

paper oriole
agile topaz
# stray holly <@!215893537965867009> I posted this in the feedback channel yesterday. Just sad...

Replying to this super late af but it is a super solid point.

I have a discord community of just gamers that was predominantly isle gamers. We all love the game and love to play together but

The state of the game now means we might get on to check the game for an hour or so, get discouraged because the game is in a broken state, and just go play other things...

Clearly this is happening all over, I didn't realize others felt the same we did... I didn't know full on community servers are dying because the game is F

hybrid matrix
grizzled vector
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Did carno lose its charge cooldown in main branch

worn saddle
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People who try to oppose the skin system are clearly against creativity

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… and against being able to identify who the hell you are seeing in front of you

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Also. The particle system was so much better

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But the old Isle Sniff with glowing corpses/plants/water was even better, as it did not obstruct the view with so many flying particles and didn’t glitch nearly as bad every time you used it.

And it was pretty to look at, okay

worn saddle
worn saddle
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An example of vitiligo progression in a hog:

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paper oriole
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Thats what uhh michael jackson had right

worn saddle
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Supposedly

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I still think it was a coverup story for Michael being racist to paint a good image of him, but again. I have no idea

paper oriole
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It could be cool to see career cannibals and just general awfully unhealthy dinos develop that

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Or have offspring who get it

worn saddle
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Makes sense.

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I might pop that into suggestions right now

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I think that Albinism as a mutation should be a choice for people who want to play hardcore/stand out, not as a punishment really.

worn saddle
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Piebaldism is though, but piebaldism doesn’t get better or worse over time. It just stays the same throughout the whole life

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Piebald may be a skin option in the future, as a reward or something

left geyser
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pain

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i accidently sent something in general feedback and now have to wait until 10 to post my new cera ideas

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if you all want to see it here it is

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Colorblind version

signal beacon
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Hey @barren zephyr I like the idea but how will that work? Will bepi have a long elder stage or will it have a huge growth burst or something?

worn saddle
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A huge growth burst makes sense. Kinda like many sexually mature alligators are very small, but have a sudden growth spurt once they are older

compact forum
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does the queue work?

sand tundra
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no cause i sat in a loading screen forever

crystal sage
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@barren zephyr can you elaborate more on your Beipu size idea? I’m confused specifically by the image you shared. From what ive seen, nothing in the paleontology world shows Beipi being longer/bigger than what it’s been listed as so I’d love to see what you’re referring to unless I’m not understanding what you were getting at

honest sparrow
crystal sage
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Ah ok. Any link to it? I’m tryin to find it but I’m not having any luck

barren zephyr
echo marsh
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wheeze

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worn saddle
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Plenty of tiny ones

hybrid matrix
# echo marsh wheeze

U realize that this game is progressing faster than most AAA games
Updates take time
Be patient

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Or I will audit you

echo marsh
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idk what kind of AAA games youre playing

hybrid matrix
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R u just not gonna respond?

stray holly
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Just because it’s faster doesn’t mean it’s better

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If you’re talking about progression, then yes it’s progressing faster than some AAA games. Progressing faster to shit.

hybrid matrix
hoary dawn
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isle's biggest problems rn are balance related

meager tiger
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@lusty agate they have ping roles you silly goose

stray holly
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It’s better to have a a somewhat optimized/polished update that might take longer versus frequent/bug ridden updates

hybrid matrix
lusty agate
meager tiger
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why is there Carno AI. Carno was OP enough

limber hull
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its like, 2/3rds the size

left geyser
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balance

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it is supposed to be weak bc it is very strong as an adult

limber hull
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i do think you've given it a LOT lmao

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like maybe too much

left geyser
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i wanted to keep its playstyle more engagin then alt bite

limber hull
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the grapple is actually very similar to an idea i had and i think its good

left geyser
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thanks\

limber hull
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(also cera being a poor swimmer is outright wrong, it's one of the best swimmers in the game as confirmed by the devs)

left geyser
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oh

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well that can be easliy changed

limber hull
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i still disagree with the concept of cera being longer grow than carno

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being a smaller creature which is also slow

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(also it somehow surviving an apex bite seems unrealistic lmao)

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@left geyser also fracture is no longer dictated via random chance

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its not like legacy anymore

left geyser
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so how is fracture determined

limber hull
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its a health system

left geyser
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ok

limber hull
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if you lose all of either the leg, head or body fracture health, those are fractured

left geyser
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ok

barren zephyr
meager tiger
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Carno is OP enough

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Add Carno AI when things can actually kill it

barren zephyr
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I mean test the ai against multiple players etc

visual vault
#

Quick question, is ptera only planned flyer?

left geyser
left geyser
visual vault
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Can i get giddy for a quetz then lol?

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Even if it takes evrima 2 lmao

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Also to chime in on ai the ones i ran into didnt even see me and i was easily within eyesight hell i 1 called that close notjing happened was a carno and utah

icy lion
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quetz has been confirmed for a while

visual vault
icy lion
limber hull
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@zealous violet isnt that a discord issue

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also are you sure you aren't blocked by the guy lmao

zealous violet
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People I dont even know or have never spoken too. And only when its the very last/most recent comment on the page. I can leave emojis just fine on any other comment.

limber hull
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yea you might be blocked :P

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idk why but that seems to add up

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yea he's blocked ya mate lmao

tepid gate
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I'm pretty sure you can't add reactions to a post of someone who has you blocked

limber hull
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nothing wrong with the channels or with discord, dude just doesn't wanna see you

tepid gate
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But that shouldn't put him on the timer I think

limber hull
tepid gate
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He just wouldn't be able to add a reaction at all, his screen wouldn't shake iirc

limber hull
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no it shakes

tepid gate
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I've heard there was some bug that if you put a reaction on someone's post it would put you on the timer

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Actually yea I think you're right about the shaking

limber hull
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just tested with someone who i know hates me lmao

tepid gate
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I've only ever tried to react to someone who had me blocked once

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lol

zealous violet
limber hull
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no clue, but it def adds up

tepid gate
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Timer is a discord bug I think

limber hull
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timer is weird, can't explain that

tepid gate
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Not related to the block I believe

zealous violet
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Yeah this is a weird one for sure.

tepid gate
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I've seen some people complain about getting hit by the timer when they reacted to someone's feedback

limber hull
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might have something to do with a unique interaction where it believes its some kind of message, since you can technically type up a reaction, but because the block cancels it, it reads it as a message somehow

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no clue, but I know for certain he's blocked ya

zealous violet
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Huh that could be it. You guess is better than mine at least haha

tepid gate
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I will try to react to someone's feedback and let's see if I have the same issue

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Nope, doesn't put me on the timer at all, it's probably as Wavepoole said - the interaction between reacting and being blocked causes the timer to trigger.

valid elk
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Autowalk was talked about awhile ago...it was given a no.

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Unstuck button, however, good idea.

simple comet
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how do i latch with the ptera

limber hull
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RMB

zealous violet
valid elk
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You press a button once and it walks for you.

woven moss
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who's diet is the pachy on?

grim elm
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dude is there some kind of guide as to where the plants for a diet are because every time I've played I've barely found anything other than goddamn wild potato roots

sacred moat
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i want them to release the heatmap for carno activity for the past 48 hours, just to see the center plains glow neon green

wooden heath
deft ferry
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why when I try to join a server that isn't full, it boots me to the main menu?

simple comet
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man the pachy is so weak when its little. i had such a hard time growing a pachy, every croc i couldn't get away from. And raptors just stay behind your tail

next steeple
#

@barren zephyr I see that Wolvden map lol

dense vale
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idk if its only the map being too large. also has to do with lack of water and the north and west cliffs that make you feel soft locked and big expanses of forest with no visibility. these things punish exploring. V3 if you travel you know you'll find water and different biomes and be able to see where your at/going. this map is more if i wander i see a face full of bushes until dehydrating or meeting a cliff

somber coral
#

joining mechanic test servers is like waiting for covid vaccine rollouts 😉

slim wing
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LOL

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@jade schooner I really love the idea of adding specific species of fish to different areas around the map to implement a psc diet, I love that!

jade schooner
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Thanks :3

I think it would both add variety to the world and also bring about a more wide spread reach for the ptera.

Tho I do believe their air time, stamina use and stamina regen should be looked up. One, because if the Ptera rocks we saw on a concept a while ago is supposedly it's nesting ground, the sea would be most likely a death sentence, so we'd need a water take off. At least. Maybe the ptera could regain some stamina when floating on water (it's surface and light weight should be enough to allow it to float a bit). That wouldn't allow it to drown unless we include a diving ability.

But this is me going off the branches

lavish quail
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@balmy gazelle after reading a different suggestion but making it lazyer

paper oriole
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Are there really people who play ptera and just stay in one spot? That's baffling

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Its the lowest risk and fastest animal for travel like what incentive is there not to move around? Unique lake/stream/ocean/river fish would be environmentally nice though

keen vapor
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@cobalt shadow It does

lavish quail
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Just go from swamp to swamp and occasionally kill pachys

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That was I was having a good time before servers died again

sinful finch
keen reef
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I've always advocated for the option to use global in unofficials if wanted

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This truly is epic

desert quarry
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i just verified my game files and now the anti cheat thing isnt working lol

lavish quail
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it would be useful for sandbox servers, or our current equivalent, free grow servers

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rn we need the free grow servers anyway cause the devs just cant fix bugs

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2 months we had the save loss glitch were growing was pointless

hoary dawn
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it should be a thing for sandbox

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not survival

paper oriole
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Sandbox is usually used for events, training and deathmatches, global chat helps in stuff like that. It really has no reason to be in survival yeah

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Tho i do miss when i would kfs some juvie and see them cry about in in global 10 seconds later

sacred moat
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I do miss sandbox, it was the best way new players could actually learn how to defend themselves so that they don’t waste hours growing a Dino they don’t know how to play

hoary dawn
#

they should honestly add sandbox back within the next few updates now that we have 9 playables

honest sparrow
tired wagon
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🇫 🇴 🇬 PogFish

sudden glacier
#

so how does the que work? when it says im 1/1 in que then starts loading its just a forever loading screen. is the loading screen the que?

zealous violet
hoary dawn
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queue doesn't work properly yet

sudden glacier
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true

hoary dawn
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rng debuffs bad

zealous violet
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@grave walrus
After getting down to the ocean, go left and follow the beach until you see the first 'curve' where the sand meets the ocean. Go left into the woods and from there you can get back up and back to water. Sometimes you may need to follow along further down but not often.
Then once your back up, go left until your back at ocean falls.

faint wyvern
# hoary dawn rng debuffs bad

It's meant to be a Survival Game, there are many variables that should impede your ability to survive, do you think anyone has a choice about when they have a Parasite like a Leech or Tick latch onto them?

hoary dawn
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it should be up to the player's choices and skill how good they do, not randomly getting a debuff for no reason

faint wyvern
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And given that The Isle is a Tropical/Arid location, that's basically a breeding ground for Ticks and Leeches

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It also makes way for a new Gameplay style mechanic, where one could take control of small, avian Dinosaurs such as Microraptor, where they form a symbiotic relationship with larger animals to pick Parasites off of them

sick pond
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@ruby plinth @obtuse fractal what problem do you have with my suggestion

obtuse fractal
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i've been summoned and i've never spoken in here

ruby plinth
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I didn't like that u called it goofy shit so I thumbs downed it but ur opinion is fine. each 2 their own

hoary dawn
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it is pretty goofy tho

ruby plinth
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ya that's fair each to their own but I was just explaining that's why I thumbsed down it

hoary dawn
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troodon doing a pushup while broadcasting

obtuse fractal
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👉 👈 i thought the animation looked really cool, but it doesn't need to put its hands on the ground. and its tail keeps going through the floor
but i like that it shouts to the sky

ruby plinth
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not personal that's just why I did

obtuse fractal
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i dont think it looks goofy, it just looks unfinished

proud coral
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To me, the broadcast just bounces and moves too much. I love the idea, but they should tone it down just a bit.

ruby plinth
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yeah like I love it the way it is but I can agree with that, if they toned it down a bit

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I sort of imagine because it's small it has to scream with its whole body compared to something big that bellows and doesn't need to use its whole body

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but it could be.. refined?!?! yes that's the word I want

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the animation could be refined, for sure

obtuse fractal
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the vibe is good, but it needs to look like its not burning so many calories ig

proud coral
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Yeah I'm not saying completely remake it, just tone it down a tad 😛

ruby plinth
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LOOOL IT'S A WORKOUT TO SCREAM FOR THEM POOR TROODONS

proud coral
obtuse fractal
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TI_dryoAAA
i love how it raises its head up and then lowers it while calling
like i said- shouting to the skies
but it doesnt have to lower its whole body, it could do more of the movement with its neck while the body goes back to its normal position after raising up

ruby plinth
hoary dawn
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the main issue for me is the call itself

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the og call was so much cooler

long lava
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I don't hear much difference

hoary dawn
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the new one sounds like a car drifting

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while the old one was cleaner and almost sounded robotic, which i really liked

obtuse fractal
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listening to them back to back does hit home the fact that the old one sounds like its coming from a source, while the new one sounds like multiple troodon

hearty kayak
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I imagine there should be a mechanic that incentivizes herbivores to not attack carnivores for no reason, I've been attacked and killed twice, once as juvi carno and another as ptera without warning by pachys, and now just attacked again and my carno buddy died. Its really ridiculous, you'd assume herbs would want to avoid predators at all costs, especially since I was never coming into their space, they came into mine.

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I don't know what kind of mechanic that would be, but it really breaks the game for me

wild stone
hearty kayak
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I just got killed by another pachy going to eat a dead body, out of the blue didnt even know he was there

hoary dawn
hearty kayak
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Im not talking about knowing herbs are there and choosing not to move, I'm talking about random aggressiveness from herbs that randomly show up and start attacking you without warning

hoary dawn
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just run away

wild stone
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Hiding involves situational awareness. Being caught off guard implies you weren't paying very much attention

hoary dawn
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pachy cant catch you

hearty kayak
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how can I run away when they headbutt immediately and stun me

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I dont try to attack them back, I try to run

wild stone
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The goal is to avoid being seen in the first place. If you smell a dead body, assume there will be a "random" player guarding it. Even if they aren't playing a carnivore.

hearty kayak
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why should that even be a factor?

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I understand if a carnivore is guarding it, but herbivores?

wild stone
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🤷 You could also go back to realism servers lmfao

hoary dawn
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they have to be in close range to use the headbutt, if you let a pachy get close enough to stun you then that's on you not the pachy

hearty kayak
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herb aggressiveness has been a problem in the game for forever, don't act like this is a me problem

wild stone
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Because you're not fighting an herbivore or carnivore in either case. The reality is you're competing with another human player, who is using a keyboard and who has a brain and wants to shit on your day.

hoary dawn
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herbis being aggressive is not a problem

hearty kayak
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so its my fault someone wants to shit on my day? lol

hoary dawn
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survival game my guy, kill or be killed

wild stone
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No, but there are ways to avoid it. "Random player out of the blue" is just you making excuses for why you lost

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It happens to the best of us, but if you make excuses, you're making it harder for yourself to learn the game and avoid players like that. No one will be bothered if they catch you again at a dead body lol

hearty kayak
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sure, I could have seen it coming, I could have avoided it, but thats not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about herbs attacking for no reason and body guarding, if they didn't want me in the area they could have threatened before immediately attacking

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just earlier my buddy was killed from pachys when we were minding our own business, not near a body or anyone

wild stone
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🤷 Developers are in charge of the tools they give the players, they're not in charge of what the players do with them.

hearty kayak
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the devs have said before about implementing debuffs for herbs around bodies though (iirc).. they are aware of this

wild stone
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If it makes you feel better for roleplay reasons (uwu), Pachy has been marketed as one of the more aggressive herbivores for a very long time.

hearty kayak
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stegos too?

hoary dawn
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its just not a problem, herbivores attack carnivores for existing irl and in-game people wanna get rid of potential threats before they can grow up

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its not unfair or illogical, just nature

wild stone
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I doubt "debuffs" are an effective solution to your problem. They will either be implemented in a way that doesn't matter for 90% of cases, or they will be cancer and affect everyone all the time.

hearty kayak
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did I say it was a solution? I was just saying what I heard

hoary dawn
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herbivores already have a deterrent for corpse guarding via the diet system

hearty kayak
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you think that really stops them?

hoary dawn
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i think that its enough

weak dune
#

Honestly if you don't want people KOSing carni dinos, my advice is don't play carnis in a way that makes people go "Ugh, better kill it before it becomes more of a problem to me"

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Mind you this is general advice at the community, not at you explicitly

median ore
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Players kill because killing is fun. No other reason. Don't want to be killed? Be cautious, keep your distance, and check the area before you go to snatch from a body.

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Also don't pick fights you aren't willing to die from.

hearty kayak
# weak dune Honestly if you don't want people KOSing carni dinos, my advice is don't play ca...

Thank you for trying to give genuine advice instead of just telling me I'm playing the game poorly lol, I understand better now why that happens. I can honestly say I really don't play that way, I prefer to go more scavenger since I usually find a lot of dead bodies people just leave anyway, and I don't fight if its not necessary (aka basically never). I can understand why people might have bias, although I wish that wasn't a thing

hearty kayak
median ore
weak dune
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Yeah I'm pretty much the same unless I just decide a specific day is a troll day. But most of the time I'm pretty passive and try to "play nice"

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As a general rule, I don't surplus kill as a carni or KFS/KOS

median ore
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IF I am going to hunt something, I'm almost always an ambush predator. Herbi, I MIGHT fight for personal space or resources, but I give warning. Generally speaking, I avoid large groups until I'm adult and am very cautious about sounds.

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But can never fully trust any player you don't know on a personal basis. Grouping up once adult is always a gamble, but at least you have a chance.

weak dune
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Only time I really don't give "warning" to carnis is if they're already attacking/harassing anyway. Like if a carno pack has been harassing pond for the last 30 minutes, they ain't getting a warning. If you weren't paying attention and I kill you, that's on you lol

median ore
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Well yeah, if other dinos have given you plenty of warning, that counts. 🤣

weak dune
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I mean even if someone shows up new to the area and are joining in/riding coat tails of a group that's there, you should watch out. But I also discern by species and number. If there's already 20 carnos and you roll up all of a sudden as #21, I will target you

#

Fresh spawn or not

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If you're just 2-3 fresh spawn carnos who just need water and then run off somewhere, you're probably safe

hearty kayak
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thank you for restoring some of my faith in the player base lol, sometimes it feels like everyone just wants to kill on sight

weak dune
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Some people do

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I just think its generally dumb to kill for no reason except "LOL GRIEFING FUNNY"

hearty kayak
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"lol griefing funny" is not dumb? lol

weak dune
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Nah, I was saying it is dumb

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I'll generally leave people alone who are playing the game "as intended"

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Like 2-3 baby carnos rolling together

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But things like megapacking carnos totally breaks the game so bet your ass I'll try and kill megapackers

hearty kayak
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oh yeah completely fair

weak dune
#

Conversely, Utahs are supposed to pack in large numbers to be viable, so I'm more lenient on Utah packs

hearty kayak
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I usually don't pack most of the time unless I find fun people to talk to

chrome tendon
#

are there any talks of anti-cannibal mechanics maybe being put in place in the future?

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at least with deino as its the worst with them?

tired wagon
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You become infertile and other nerfs to stats n such

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Deino and cerato are meant to cannibalize

chrome tendon
#

i get deinos are somewhat cannibals, however they are not specialist cannibals. they only eat out of hunger, or a few other reasons including environmental factors and stuff. has there been any talks about the deinos specifically? because the cannibalization is out of control. i get if it is what they would do in nature but when a pack of 2-4 crocs roll up and kill 5-7 baby-sub crocs when food is around or other similar situations it feels like a big debuff is needed.

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not to mention when crocs "go hunting" and target other deinos and chase them on land and if they are slightly bigger, they will catch them 90% of the time

hoary dawn
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deino is the only thing in the game that can control its own population, it literally has no other predators until spino is in

chrome tendon
hoary dawn
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when starvation sets in then they'd just cannibalize anyway

chrome tendon
hoary dawn
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i just dont think it'll be that necessary in the long run

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cannibalism as a whole is an "issue" that fixes itself as more playables are added

chrome tendon
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as of now, the way i see it is even with more playables, the deino problem still is enormous because they are restricted to small rivers that barely fit more than a few deinos comfortably. so even if 10 more playables are added, the deino cannibal crisis will still occur as they just need to move downstream and they can kill any deino they want for no reason without repercussion.

hoary dawn
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as they should be able to

chrome tendon
honest sparrow
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Yeah

hoary dawn
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cannibalism in general is not as much of a problem as most people make it out to be

chrome tendon
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this chat with people like you(with their names literally advocating cannibalism) is getting nowhere with you. i would like to ask anyone else about my previous inquiry about cannibalism

honest sparrow
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Lmao

hoary dawn
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suit yourself, but i've yet to see an sound argument against cannibalism

#

people get killed by other species all the time but as soon as they get killed by their own suddenly its a big deal and needs to be debuffed

chrome tendon
# hoary dawn people get killed by other species all the time but as soon as they get killed b...

as a final aside, ill whisper this one to you. its almost as if in nature cannibalism is generally confined to really small places with specific circumstances and if it isnt confined, it usually is weeded out by natural selection over a generation or two. in a game that is drawing strongly from nature, it would make sense for the majority of players to look down on cannibalism. except for those who only cannibalize others.

hoary dawn
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deino is in a small place with the specific circumstances of not having a consistent way to get food other than cannibalism

chrome tendon
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Have you ever played a deino?

hoary dawn
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yep

chrome tendon
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No you obviously haven't. I recommend doing that without a taste for your own kind for once before you start making arguments for it being the only consistent source of food.

hoary dawn
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i guess i haven't

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relying on other players to perform a specific action in a specific place is not consistent, it is fun to lunge land dwellers but the opportunity to do so is not guaranteed to present itself often, if at all

chrome tendon
hoary dawn
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i never said cannibal only, im saying that cannibalism is just a good way to get food when you dont have better options

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i dont think cannibalism should be in deino's diet, but i dont think it should be debuffed either.

chrome tendon
hoary dawn
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i dont say i was hungry

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i say "I always kill my own, doesn't matter if I'm hungry or not I always kill my own."

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even though i do often do it when im hungry

chrome tendon
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this chat with people like you(with their names literally advocating cannibalism) is getting nowhere with you. i would like to ask anyone else about my previous inquiry about cannibalism

hoary dawn
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suit yourself, but i've yet to see an sound argument against cannibalism

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people get killed by other species all the time but as soon as they get killed by their own suddenly its a big deal and needs to be debuffed

chrome tendon
#

Congrats on creating the dollarstore groundhog day

tepid gate
#

Why would I wait to be hungry to cannibalise other Deinos?

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Killing other Deinos is as far as I'm concerned the best part about playing Deino

ruby plinth
zealous violet
sacred moat
#

Unpopular opinion here: troodon animations for its calls look pretty fine. I don’t understand why people are people dislike the movement on it. I heard people say that it’s moving too much up and down while broadcasting…..but have you ever seen a carnos 1 call standing animation? That S.O.A.B is just as dramatic and looks like it wants to do a yoga stretch backwards

zealous violet
#

Anyone else kinda feel like the teno is a tad slower now?

lavish quail
#

Troodon calls are fucking based man

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Also @gusty comet wtf no

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Why would anyone want shitting in a video game

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What happens when a brachi has to shit?

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It’s just gross

primal willow
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The earth trembles with his movement.

lavish quail
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The earth would speed up its destruction for its own good

urban flax
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Actually shit is planned

primal willow
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Literally AND figuratively.

paper oriole
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Shit is already added it's called current qa balance

lavish quail
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I don’t care if Filipe said it

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There will be riots if they try to add that

lavish quail
urban flax
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Filipe wasn't supposed to say it

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Because they knew people would react like you do

lavish quail
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Because it’s gross af

urban flax
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But gore isn't for some reason

primal willow
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But imagine Dark Souls-esque signposts with poop. "Big death ahead"

lavish quail
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No one wants shit in a game

urban flax
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If it has a purpose for tracking reasons, it makes sense

paper oriole
#

Filipe wants diarrhea in the game

lavish quail
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I don’t wanna see a long brown slice of shit come out of a majestic creatures ass

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Like bro

primal willow
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Wait till you see a hippo poop

paper oriole
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Shit isnt needed for tracking

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It has no reason to be in

primal willow
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Realism

paper oriole
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Like you can accomplish any of its purposes without it

lavish quail
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Realism can suck my ass we have Utah

lavish quail
paper oriole
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We have an alien cosplayer spino that controls weather probably still planned realism is a garbage excuse

urban flax
paper oriole
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Its fuckin skin we all have our skin out in the open

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If you think skin is comparable to shit idk what to say

urban flax
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Cause it's all a matter of opinion, and following a trail of dead skin is stupid, unimmersive, disgusting AND unrealistic

lavish quail
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What can shit do that basic non disgusting mechanics not do

primal willow
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You mean you don't want a bunch of Dryos to gather around a dead carnivore and poop on them while broadcasting? That sounds amazingly hilarious.

paper oriole
lavish quail
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But wait for modding to fuck the game up

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Then that can happen

paper oriole
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And the shed skin idea is dumb af too we can just have unhygienic and sickly animals' scent just be more informative we dont need shit

urban flax
paper oriole
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Shit will just make all the uwu roleplayers and trolls happy

lavish quail
primal willow
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I, for one, look forward to our Dryo overlords asserting dominance by pooping near dead bodies.

paper oriole
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Just because something happens irl doesnt mean its cool for ingame

lavish quail
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What about brown liquid leaving a large creatures ass isn’t gross

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Piss is also dumb and gross

paper oriole
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Id they add piss im fuckin done

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Dinos wouldnt even piss

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Thats unrealistic and disgusting and unnecessary

urban flax
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Yeah piss is dumb, I agree on that

paper oriole
lavish quail
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No one wants shit in a cool dinosaur game

primal willow
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I think the Mercs need a pooping mechanic.

urban flax
paper oriole
urban flax
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I don't think there would be any use for a merc pooping mechanic

paper oriole
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Blood and gore adds to the horror vibe of the game, shit adds nothing unless you are a cringy RPer or troll

lavish quail
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There is no use for a poop mechanic anywhere

primal willow
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Maybe Mercs/Tribals use it for fertilizer

paper oriole
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No stop

urban flax
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You guys are so afraid of RPers you can't even have an opinion on that

lavish quail
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I’m more scared of our game being worse than a mobile game

primal willow
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Honestly, herbivore poop would probably have more use as a fertilizer than carnivore poop. Leftover bits of plant material etc.

paper oriole
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No im irritated at the fact that these RPers and trolls will have more tools to be annoying as fuck and ruin my experience with their shitty antics

lavish quail
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This topic is dumb

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No shit ever

primal willow
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Imagine, Mercs walk into tribal territory and run headfirst into a compost heap. "Oh shit..." they say. "Indeed." says another.

paper oriole
primal willow
modern schooner
glass swan
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posted the wrong doc in general, now i need to wait the 6 hours 🙃

paper oriole
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Artificially adjusting stats based on if you're in the forest or plains etc is kinda dumb and feels artificial

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If a dino isnt supposed to live in the dense forest, it shouldnt be agile, its agility shouldn’t change depending on its biome

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Unlocking abilities especially feels artificial. Flying and swimming are different than just moving from a jungle to a plain

urban flax
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People treating The Isle as a moba TI_Yikes

stuck crater
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Troodon's call sounds like it's saying Nyaaaaaaahhhh UwU"

ebon girder
lavish quail
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God I want troodon to be able to chat with dilos

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that would make the horror tag real

paper oriole
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That sounds toxic as fuck we dont need those two having an easier time mixpacking than they probably already will lmao

lavish quail
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its cool though

paper oriole
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That wouldnt even be horror, being attacked by mixpackers is just annoying

lavish quail
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It would be pretty scary to have no clue what the fuck is happening

paper oriole
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It would be pretty obvious whats happening when troodons and dilos are both coming at you

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They have 0 reason to cross communicate

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They are both well equipped predators already

daring remnant
paper oriole
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dinos should just be happy where their food is we dont need another thing to juggle lmao

daring remnant
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why do you put "lmao" in almost every phrase?

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looks like you find everything hilarious

hoary dawn
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people say some funny shit in these channels

paper oriole
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i kind of do it subconsciously i guess

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i do it when i am replying to something i think is a silly/bad idea usually

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like also having to juggle dino happiness on top of diets

lavish quail
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some of the trees are so big its dumb

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@barren zephyr we cannot infact hear nothing

barren zephyr
lavish quail
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@alpine pumice that concept art is awesome

alpine pumice
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thank you so much @lavish quail

left geyser
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Am back

glass swan
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@rigid pelican that would be really cool especially being a big herbi seeing those grass "trails" moving toward you TI_Pog

primal willow
candid schooner
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does anyone know how to actually get into a server?

rigid pelican
full summit
graceful birch
gritty lance
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@barren zephyr 10/10, i really hope they update the map so its actually playable! especially for peasant laptop users like me people with bad pc's, and so you can go atleast a minute with being able to see infront of you

lapis tree
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@scarlet frigate they’re are planning on making an option for feathered models for most of the roster

honest ferry
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I can’t join groups though friendly call

tepid gate
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Remember that you have to hold it, not just tap it@honest ferry

last lily
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@rare fractal Isn't Pachy fodder still at the moment, or did they actually buff it?

rare fractal
zealous violet
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and wait, pachy can stun lock???

rare fractal
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Considering they're faster than teno, kinda sucks playing as a teno rn

zealous violet
#

I have noticed teno seems waaay slower since the last update when they added carno...

rare fractal
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at any group size

zealous violet
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huh! I'll have to try it out sometime then.

rare fractal
zealous violet
stiff storm
rare fractal
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@stiff storm That's a bad thing btw

stiff storm
rare fractal
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You have to remember that pachys essentially 1 shot carnos

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Because after the first hit you can't hunt or get water

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So even if the pachy breaks your leg and leaves you'll still die

stiff storm
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Has anyone found a crab as a ptera yet?

stiff storm
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and cause fractures?

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my bad @edgy harbor

edgy harbor
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You're fine

zealous violet
stiff storm
zealous violet
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XD

stiff storm
zealous violet
honest ferry
stiff storm
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ubiquitous
present, appearing, or found everywhere

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who would have known

zealous violet
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Ive been wondering that

stiff storm
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@zealous violet

zealous violet
stiff storm
zealous violet
stiff storm
zealous violet
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lol its just like, no one talks to each other or something. They all just do 1 page of the assignment and thats it.

stiff storm
meager tiger
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@vivid needle a better balanced idea is adding vegation that benfits small animals. Like thorn bushes where small animals can crawl under and bigger animals will be slowed down and might even take damage from thors. We also can have hollow logs, tree holes in the trunk or under the tree...etc

zealous violet
meager tiger
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well why don't we fix hit regirastion instead of mass changing stats based on biome or terrarian?

zealous violet
lapis tree
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@glass swan how would lambeo bring anything new or interesting to the game?

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Cause it’s basically just a re-skinned Para or Maia on how you described it’s abilities

pulsar lake
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Those footprints are so wrong

vivid needle
# meager tiger <@!448191366103826442> a better balanced idea is adding vegation that benfits s...

Idk if it's better, at least it could be one of the possible applications of a split between ground dinosaurs which (i think) should be more efficient balance wise, and also logical --> today's animals take advantage of their field when it's possible. Like you said thorns can benefit ones and hurt others because of their size which I agree on. Now vegetation has a poor influence on dinos a I think it could help balancing the island more than tweaking only dinosaurs statistics (even though those are necessary as well)

worn saddle
#

Am I the only one who hates the new scent system?

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It is absolutely awful and I cannot understand how some people voted for it

primal spear
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Has anyone noticed that the effect of blood makes you blind? In the sense that the red light is so strong that you don't see anything anymore

worn saddle
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Yep, that

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Like, fuck. Legacy Scent was totally okay

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Why would you change it 3 times ugh

tepid gate
#

The new scent system is better than what we had just before it. Arguably the scent particles were better however it seems to me that they were far more taxing on the performance so I prefer what we have now.

full summit
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I am content with the content currently in the game. I would just like viable carnis. most runs as carni end in starvation there simply is not enough to eat. i worry diets are just going to exacerbate this issue and in a sense expand it to herbi through slow growth though not starvation.

urban flax
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How are carnis not viable ?

full summit
urban flax
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People who have played the QA branch don't seem to complain about that too much

full summit
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to date every play through as carni has been hunger games

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The current QA is hard to get into but i have played all the rest and main branch. Many food problems

jovial hazel
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Mine all end in boredom. As food is so easy to get, but most options for a perfect diet end up in requiring AI hunting.

full summit
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what dino and what are you eating?

jovial hazel
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Utah mostly.

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And the AI that are everywhere, if I need to.

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Right now everything you run into is a pachy.. so kind of have to hunt AI.

full summit
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in the current QA?

jovial hazel
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Yeah.

full summit
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hmm

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seems either too much ai or not enough 90% is not enough.

jovial hazel
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Although I did just run into 2 utahs mix packing with a couple pachies.. that spiced things up a bit.

lavish quail
full summit
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i been in evrima from the beginning and refuse to go back to legacy...

jovial hazel
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What do you mean 90%?

lavish quail
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Apart from AI spawn rates the game is carni sided

full summit
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90% of the time my experience there is not enough ai/viable food items for carni

lavish quail
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I mean that mean your server is empty or your not in the right places

jovial hazel
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I run into so much teno and carno AI it's not even funny.. I end up with like 300% blue and red.

full summit
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Wheel are you camping a spawn site or moving about the map?

jovial hazel
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And spend most of my time trying to find a dryo.

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I move all over.. my typical route the past few times have been spawning south and travelling up the west side of the map. Just because the areas are better to hide as a utah if needed.

full summit
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This is only the second time in evrima i have heard of an abundance of ai

lavish quail
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Honestly with diets its easy to be a carni

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you get all 3 nutrients as a juvie incredibly easy

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then can just patrol the east side of south for food

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and have plenty of time for killing things

jovial hazel
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Yeah, utah should get a full grow before you need to even worry much about an actual diet. Getting perfect diet is problematic with dryo and hypsi as the only things giving yellow.

lavish quail
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Pachy diets are the hardest

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your slow and you have to travel alot

full summit
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i have scoured the map as ptera scouting for ai and have logged hours with nothing. Done this with dryo too.

jovial hazel
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Isn't everything pachy needs pretty much all over center?

full summit
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most other dinos revolve around center

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Plants

Evrima_Plants.png
jovial hazel
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Are we talking just the neutral AI? I do run into a lot more dino AI than the boars and shit.

full summit
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This is hours and hours of game play on many different dinos

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i wouldnt mind any type of ai just viable things to eat

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players cant really be counted on to feed carnis unless you are deino or carno to a degree

jovial hazel
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I just played for about 2 hours as a utah until I got killed by some mix packers. I killed a boar, turtle, 2 tenos, carno, and a dryo. All AI.

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And a chicken that I spawned right on top of at south. Forgot about that.

full summit
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Interesting. Maybe they uped the ai, but like i said this is only the 2nd time in what has it been 1-2 years

jovial hazel
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I grow every single utah in all of the update 3s off only AI Dryo.

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Maybe you need a better headset to hear their calls? Or maybe you don't understand how it works?

full summit
#

herbi gets boring so i would like to switch over to carni and for the most part that just ends in starvation. Thats why i say the game is kinda unplayable at this point.

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How does it work?

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LOL look at my map...

jovial hazel
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When you get within a certain range of all the dino AI they 1 call. For some reason it is client-side. So everyone hears it at different times.

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You need to be ready when you hear it to pinpoint the direction and just run straight towards it.

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Hell, if you log out and back in, it will call again if you lose the direction.

full summit
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That sounds kinda lame, but if they are present i guess thats a plus.

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and of course i understand its Beta, QA and all that but a somewhat playable game persistently would be n\ice.

barren zephyr
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they need to bring the update... evrima dies

full summit
#

Ptera cant take off after crashing sometimes...

tender orchid
#

Is it just me or can other people not get into the qa servers?

vivid willow
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my first suggestion so tell me if i did wrong

hoary dawn
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feathered options will be a thing eventually

haughty dock
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<@&505047238674874368> restart EU 1 ?

icy lion
haughty dock
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devs neither

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filipe is but not online bruh

icy lion
# haughty dock ok which one then?

The programmers are generally the ones who restart them. You can notify Punchpacket#7530 about the servers if you'd like, but I'm fairly certain he's aware

haughty dock
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ok so he doesnt care i ugess xD ?

#

good to know

icy lion
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The devs have weekends off and are likely unavailable

haughty dock
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ye np

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its not the official game so no need for hussle

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@icy lion why not make you guys available to restart ? u should be trustable dont you?

icy lion
haughty dock
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ok understandable

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and for what is the official server admin role ?

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if they have no access for restart

icy lion
haughty dock
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thanks for explaining catswat

remote plank
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Is there any way to fix the blackscreens after joining a QA server and endless loading screens at all? Or does the servers have to be restarted?

haughty dock
#

thats what i asked for because eu 1 is down but its showing up

charred canyon
#

i think EU2 is the same

remote plank
#

yeah it has to be

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sad hours

haughty dock
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no eu2 is just caped

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but would be good if they just restart and open more server

charred canyon
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No eu2 lets me in but i get a black screen

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i just tried it rn and it did it

haughty dock
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but maybe they are lacking of servers due to money

haughty dock
full summit
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use unofficial drop down with hide empty that one will let you in

lavish quail
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i hate the current roadmap

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like fr

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why nesting and skins in the same update

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followed by nightvision With no dino and then Gore AND THEN we get troodon and venom

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like fr

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dont bundle separate mechanic after mechanic with no roster changes

proud coral
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Diets and skins are not in the same update though 😮 That's nesting and skins.

paper oriole
#

Why does ptera need more health? They say “it's not a paper kite” but it kinda is lol pterosaurs are lightweight af theyre gonna die easy

hoary dawn
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yea ptera is fragile af

paper oriole
#

as it should be

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but honestly, i havent tried this in qa yet so idk if its still like this, ive been attacked by baby deinos and small utahs as ptera yet ive never been killed by them. it has a lot of wiggle room for dumb errors like getting distracted irl while on the ground. it's basically preschool level of skill ro play ptera it really doesnt need buffs afaik

sacred moat
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interesting idea about cera being able to flip things, but carno isn’t in the same weight class as cera. Even if we get 1200kg cera, carno weighs 1700kgs. I don’t really see cera flipping carno

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Also I don’t see a cera stopping a carno charge either tbh

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Or “countering” it

paper oriole
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idk who it was but somebody had the idea of cera ducking down and knocking taller threopods over from underneath

hybrid matrix
paper oriole
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so it could be sort of like utah pin where it's the same attack button but the attack itself changed depending on weight class, with the grab flip being in its weight class and the little judo knockdown punching up a bit

hybrid matrix
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Interesting

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Can you explain it some more?

paper oriole
#

of course it would need to be timed usually, like a parry of sorts

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some good skill based moveset

sacred moat
paper oriole
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lol idk i think it would look cool

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maybe i can find the suggestion

sacred moat
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Does the cera trip it’s attacker?

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Because that would be funny

paper oriole
#

no it like ducks down and uses the front of its body and head to shove the attackers torso

hybrid matrix
sacred moat
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The taller theropods in this game out class cera in weight by a shit ton.

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It only standing there while ducking wouldn’t be the best player against something like an allo or Alberto

zealous violet
#

@icy lion What did I say?
DM it to me so its not on public.
Whatever it was, haha.

sacred moat
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Or even a charging carno

honest sparrow
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honestly you could probably nerf its health

paper oriole
#

why does ptera need more damage? was it nerfed in qa?

tepid gate
#

It doesn't need more damage

honest sparrow
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it doesn't need more damage

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it would just be funni

paper oriole
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eh

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i think its stats are fine

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it doesnt need more hp, damage, or stamina

manic rampart
#

Add hats to the game

tribal torrent
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Second that

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Tops hats, big 10 gallon hats, cowboy hats, you name it.

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better yet, dino shoes.

zealous violet
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Crocs for the crocs

barren zephyr
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@calm granite pachy speed is ok it doesn't need speed boost however i agree with turn radius

hoary dawn
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the juvie is slow cuz they dont have the animations for it added yet

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the adult has a fine speed imo

tepid gate
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adult's speed seems ok, the growth time is too long and the speed of the juvenile is too low though

hoary dawn
#

ideally there won't be a "best apex", all of them should be equally viable in their own unique ways

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however unlikely it is that that will actually happen

jovial hazel
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Pachy growth is 30 minutes longer than utah?

limber hull
#

personally i think pachy can be fine as a brawler and doesn't need the speed boost

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much prefer the concept of a faster turnspeed

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make pachy too fast and it becomes too good at being an annoying-ass troll dino that runs full speed at people and breaks their legs

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allow it to turn faster and you allow it to be a defensive creature, rather than one that has to attack before their predator does (which is counter-intuitive)

sudden glacier
#

is it just me or does the server not let you join even when there are like 8 slots open?

barren zephyr
#

how i latch on to walls?

hoary dawn
barren zephyr
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thanks

tidal frigate
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With what

simple comet
#

why can carnis see footprints without sniffing?

honest sparrow
limber hull
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juvi stage can use a speed boost

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but im fine with adult phase

urban flax
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every juvie should not be both faster and more endurant than adults. There is also a thing called hiding, that more people should try.

limber hull
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yea

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you are small, remember that

urban flax
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While we're at it, shouldn't also every juvie be stronger than adults, so they can defend themselves if one attacks them ?

limber hull
#

i often find bushes an amazing salvation as a juvi lmao

hoary dawn
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juvie pachy rn is not as fast as its meant to be

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cuz its proper animations aren't hooked up to it

paper oriole
#

On humans riding herbivores, i think any extra small tiers should be able to request a ride from large herbis, humans could just be among those

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It would be cool to see a couple compies hitching a ride on a trike or hypsis lined up on the back of a cama

urban flax
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Or just buff up the collision system and lower the player count on a server to 10 so that you can walk on others

paper oriole
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That could work too but a consensual slot system would make it a little less trollabke

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Either works probably

limber hull
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A ptera vibing on the back of a stego would be sick as let's be honest

paper oriole
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Since it'd probably just be an aesthetic feature and the riders would likely get knocked off when the host attacks something to prevent carebearing

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And ya pteras sitting on a brachi or stego or something, or some homas riding on an anky would just look cool

limber hull
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the only thing that should be allowed to continue riding in a fight is a baby on a parent's back

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(if that is supported in their design)

paper oriole
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lol imagine if crocs got baby carrying and they bit something

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And all their babies just get KOd

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Some species being able to just have their babies on their back without auto dismount could be anky or minmi

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A lot of species would look weird doin it lol

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I could see very young raptors false pouncing adults to latch on but i dont think itd be good to engage in combat with those things attached

lavish quail
#

Tf when was a tagged here?

maiden bear
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the servers didnt work atm ? can't join, eu 1 is as always a black scree,

sonic current
#

Mechanic test eu 2 are down ?

stoic thorn
#

nope qa eu 2 is up rn

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i would know im on it rn

maiden bear
#

when i try to go on eu2 i'm automatically eject on the main menu

limber crater
#

yo so uh i keep getting fatal errors and theyre not the same, booted me out of na2 official, and then i couldnt join any server

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not sure where to send the error reports

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plz ping me if you have any help

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was a partly grown pachy

paper oriole
#

That carni diet suggestion sounds like carnis may as well not even have a diet lol that shit looks way too easy to maintain

bright bay
paper oriole
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No preferred food, 26% counts as good diet, 76% counts as perfect diet

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Carnis can go anywhere and eat anything for perfect diet with your design, while herbis get stuck in predictable biomes where carnis can pick and choose what is easiest for them

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Plus carnis would have better stats most of the time due to how lenient this shit is

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Your carni diet suggestion may as well just say “carnis need meat” and thats it

bright bay
paper oriole
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Your values make things extremely easy

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76% counting as perfect with such a lenient diet makes it effortless and you would only occasionally have to hunt your “preferred” food

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I dont like the shopping list shit carnis have right now, barely like it for herbis either but this aint it chief

bright bay
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Well values can be changed if needed. This is just a base of something that can be way more complex

paper oriole
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I dont think a rex should get any dietary bonus whatsoever eating some crabs on the beach, not even a little

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If any meat gives diet bonus youll have people picking medium diet benefits with afk and a little ptera friend like people did on live for a while when there werent diets

bright bay
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I don't think food being easy to find a problem, playing herbis now is kinda easy since you know the map. I just grow a full stego yesterday and had perfect diet the most time. Carnivores are kinda rare now, because everyone is having difficult to play..

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The only adult carnos I found were deinos

paper oriole
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Carnivores shouldn’t be 80% of the roster like they used to be lol. I agree the current diet system is stupid and basically just a shopping list that will become even more annoying as the roster gets larger, but they should still have requirements to even reach good diet

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Rather than specific animals, like different meat types, other tissue types, fish and invertebrates, and fat content preferences that dictates what kind of things they want to hunt rather than specific animals that narrows it down way too far

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Something that could be done especially when gore system is out

bright bay
#

Different meat types is a nice idea

paper oriole
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Like instead of carno wanting a few special dinos it could require

Lean meat
Organ meat
Whole prey (bones from small animals)
And not discriminate between herbi and carni meat

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Then theres things like rex that could prefer fatty meat, larger bones, and organs. And scavengers like cerato who may prefer bones and not need organs and not care about fat content

tepid gate
#

Carnivores should be as big a part of the roster as the playerbase wants. If you want to play a carnivore you shouldn't be forced to play a herbivore just because. Whenever that happens and people that want to play carnivores start playing the grass munchers half of this community starts whining about getting their herbivores murdered by other herbivores.

paper oriole
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I never said people whould be forced to play herbi, but if carnis are too easy then theyre basically the whole server because theyre so damn easy