wouldn't a kenonto just be kentro, its already just a tenonto covered in spikes
#general-feedback-discussion
hoary dawn
honest sparrow
And someone is eventually gonna make hybrid mods regardless
honest sparrow
wouldn't a kenonto just be kentro, its already just a tenonto covered in spikes
Kenonto would be faster kentro with cc
paper oriole
I could see a crazy company like AE weaponizing herbivores with hybrids but in a test tube sort of way rather than breeding so idk how it would happen
karmic plank
I doubt very much we will see cross-breeding beyond colourations any time soon. Procedurally generated models and assets is really hard to do properly
karmic plank
Merc radio as playable?
honest sparrow
Would be cool
karmic plank
I could see a crazy company like AE weaponizing herbivores with hybrids but in a...
Would make a bit more sense as a merc (or better yet, tribal) tech goal. Get some wesponized AI dinos to fight for you
paper oriole
Man i would feel hella shafted if we got badass Herbi hybrids and they just ended up as ai merc tools
Maybe obtaining one could involve challenging merc input and then someone involved is “nested” in as the hybrid
karmic plank
Yeah. I think as a one-off event drop it would be cool to be able to get a tamed hybrid or strained Dino that you could control, but not as a sustained production ability
Merc tech is guns and stuff, tribal tech being cross-breeding for best stats and strains makes more sense to me
paper oriole
If herbivores got hybrids and they were ai only it would feel like yet another punch in the gut for herbivore players
karmic plank
I would expect that the hybrids would be both herbivore and carnivore. Or just stick to strains
Merc one-off tamed dinos should probably be carnivore, fits and makes them more interesting to manage
paper oriole
Like carnis are already getting strains and herbis have literally nothing to look forward to that compares
karmic plank
Wait really? No herbivore strains? Lame
paper oriole
Yeah theyve said no herbi strains, honestly i feel like theyre just playing favourites
karmic plank
Herbivore strains that require some meat in the diet would be a great idea imo
I mean I get that herbivores are meant to be carnivore food but they need to be compelling to play... IRL herbivores don't get to choose
Can't have a savannah simulator and expect crowds of people to play antelope just so the lions have something to hunt
And forcing people to play species they don't want to because diets means they'll starve on their preferred isn't really a good idea either imo
paper oriole
birds and reptiles getting rabies? is that even possible?
why would killing somebody of your own species give you rabies lmao, and it would be extra scummy to force competition on to herbivores just to punish them for doing what you stronghanded them in to doing
why introduce diet competition and then punish you for competing
hoary dawn
that is horrible
sacred moat
Carno with rabies go brrrr
hoary dawn
people coming up with any reason at all why own killing is a bad thing
sacred moat
Either get good at pvp or be better at hiding
There’s only 2 answers to these “mass killings”
fickle jacinth
Very not good and horrible suggestion of mad cows or any disease
bronze vault
Very not good and horrible suggestion of mad cows or any disease
Maybe have a super rare rabied boar spawn or smth
Only way I could see it working
And even that’s a bit shaky
paper oriole
still i doubt dinos could contract rabies at least most of them
it's pretty exclusive to mammals
paper oriole
Rabies would probably be very unfun since its all about dehydrating and having muscle spasms until you die of heart failure or probably dehydration if it was in the game
So you just get muscle spasms and cant drink water until you die
That sounds awful and unfun to me personally
paper oriole
If it isnt like that in game then it isnt rabies
bronze vault
True
paper oriole
Its some made up random disease then
paper oriole
Dinos getting rabies is already an atrocious idea like even some mammals are resistant to it
Muscle spasms were shown to be a thing already afaik but rabies prevents you from drinking. Also muscle spasms arent exactly ‘like lag’ its a straight up immobilizing siezure if youve seen how rabid animals behave
Cant post any vids here for obvious reasons
bronze vault
Ok so at first I thought rabid muscle spasms were just like seizures
But looking into it more
It seems more weird than that
It’s just spinning around, confused, but yeah
Rabies would just be more of a unnecessary punishment
XD
paper oriole
Yeah they act drunk and off balance rotating around and stumbling, if a ptera could somehow be infected i doubt it would even be able to fly, on top of the drunken behaviour there are seizures and then youd just die of dehydration because nobody would want to end your suffering and get infected themselves
Super unnecessary especially since it collides with something the devs are strong-arming people in to doing (same species conflict)
hoary dawn
Why are you pinging?
same reason you just did
hoary dawn
@fickle jacinth
barren zephyr
hi
karmic plank
Dinos are so far removed from current day mammals that rabies would be very unlikely to affect them imo
Plus fatal or near-fatal diseases feel like a pretty poor mechanic, even not considering current world events
paper oriole
Especially if that disease gets contracted through doing something that the devs specifically pushed for, sounds like mighty bullshit
meager tiger
@gentle stratus I don't really see how that makes sense. How does time affect eating/drinking speed?
gentle stratus
@meager tiger Not the speed of the action itself. But the rate at which it fills hunger/nutrients or thirst. So the longer you perform the animation, the more resource you get per tick. The idea is to encourage the player to spend longer performing a potentially risky action to gain more from it, and in turn increase the chance of PvP interaction. Whether that be predation or competition for resource.
tame jetty
@zealous violet I like the new flexability in the tail, but they could maybe make the tail stiff when attacking, and then when not, its back to being flexible could be option
fathom sierra
barren zephyr
lavish quail
unique sigil
Isn't there supposed to be a Queue system now? Or is it non-functional?
rose ice
What's the best way to ask a dev or mod a question?
paper oriole
You can wait for one to show up in isle discussion or ping punchpacket or a mod. Punch is the only dev that is pingable in the rules afaik
sterile quest
quick question have they fixed the really easy solvable bug that you lose dino when you log?
waxen bronze
any1 got an idea when the NA Q&A server will be back up?
hybrid matrix
Kenonto
left nacelle
@fickle oar A colorblind mode is planned
idk about being able to choose specific colors tho
fickle oar
<@!318074085089345538> A colorblind mode is planned
Awesome thank you for the response
left nacelle
Np! 
sacred moat
i felt really bad for a dryo player that I met randomly, they were color blind and had troubles differentiating between the green and yellow scents.
craggy ice
steam still thinks The Isle is running even when i looked through my task manager and found nothing. i even went and terminated steam and that did nothing
oh ill file a bug report
fixed it, you can't restart the PC, it won't help but if you sign out, shut down the PC, wait for a bit then turn it back on, it fixes the glitch
lavish shadow
<@243413166376091660> file a bug report
True, but have you seen that bug report form? If they oversee it, it doesn't really matter!
swift dew
ah yes, give the nearly 2 ton theropod a jump 
dapper mirage
ah yes, give the nearly 2 ton theropod a jump <:TI_Trollge:811957711397978112>
i dont think you understand that many large animals today can jump. not to mention incredibly powerful legs for its size, so.
and this inst just a carno thing. allo, cera, bary, etc should all have a small jump. just to help maneuver around small objects or jagged terrain more easily. the jump would be next to useless in combat for all of them. i dont see what the issue here is
even alberto, too
left nacelle
@barren zephyr Talk in here, and yeah those are the ones I wasn't as sure about. But mango trees are pretty tiny
swift dew
instead let larger animals be able to step over obstacles by holding space, they will just lift their legs up higher while walking while holding space. not a jump
left nacelle
Yeah i know pachy can. But stego and teno currently can't
zealous violet
<@!509222498680832011> I like the new flexability in the tail, but they could ma...
I agree! That would be the happy middle ground for both parties I think.
sacred moat
@proud coral coconut crab AI is 
imagine youre a ptera flying back to your nest to only see a giant crab feasting on your eggs/hatchlings
proud coral
zealous violet
@wooden drift Ya ever notice that the stego's eyelids also blink sideways like an aliens?
paper oriole
Is the colour options dude talking about legacy skins
sacred moat
yes, i think so
paper oriole
Didnt they take away utah colours because all the blue and indoraptor cringe RPers there
paper oriole
Lmao yeah its like come on at least be a bit original people
sacred moat
what indo raptor do you know that is soloing 2 rexes
paper oriole
Legacy utah looked better than our current utah too
sacred moat
ehhh i dont really mind either
sacred moat
legacy utah does have a slightly bulkier build than our current utah
paper oriole
I hope new skin system doesnt bring back the indos and blues
sacred moat
which i like
paper oriole
Legacy utah has normal wrists and doesnt look as malnourished
sacred moat
I hope new skin system doesnt bring back the indos and blues
its inevitable
paper oriole
sacred moat
if giga is supposedly getting a speed buff, i fear for dibbles ngl
manic flint
Dibble is getting downsized and will definitely be faster
paper oriole
i hope it also gets a model update, the two main ceratopsians rn really deserve one
sacred moat
Ohh yeah! I forgot that they’re making dibble smaller
I wonder how it’ll fair up against carno tbh. in legacy it took an army of carnos to kill a good dibble
Since dibble is lower to the ground I hope it’ll be able to flip things like cera or maybe carnos
Similar to this scene
30 second marker
paper oriole
Being a stout animal with upwards facing horns it would be a crime if it doesnt punch up with some good goring and shoving
barren zephyr
@glad herald What are your system specs
left nacelle
@glad herald It's probably something on your end. I'm getting better performance on the QA test than I ever have, even before EVRIMA
wooden drift
<@!404948917864628225> Ya ever notice that the stego's eyelids also blink sidew...
Ah ye I saw, it was horrifying ;-;. I just hope they'll make the eyes smaller because rn,
they look like they are about to fall out of their sockets xd
zealous violet
Ah ye I saw, it was horrifying ;-;. I just hope they'll make the eyes smaller be...
haha very true! The juvie stego looks like its been strung out for 3 days and has started giving names to the shadow people.
urban flax
@maiden anvil That scent suggestion not only makes scent less clear, but also makes the UI more cluttered. Also there is nothing about footprints in your suggestion. Also, the fact that us humans cannot track scent is because we have among the weakest and the least sensitive scent of all the animal reign. A lot of animals can easily pinpoint where a scent comes from. The fact it doesn't need a scenting animation also deters from gameplay and immersion. Picking up a scent has to be a pllayer-driver action, That's what makes it challenging and interesting. If scent is turned into a mere game of warm or cold, it just makes it less useful and more tedious. And you'll see dinos running around in circles trying to guess in which direction their food is.
Also, what happens if there are multiple sources of food or water in your scent range ?
paper oriole
How would you keep track of a trail from something youre following with this? And if tracks are excluded from this system it looks like it would specifically screw herbis and omnis over the most as if they weren’t already annoying enough with scent
Best to just improve on the current system rather than replace it
hybrid matrix
I have a fear of coconut crabs
Like, my skin gets itchy
But they dont scare me as bad as spiders
So i encourage coconut crabs bc of the horror
Imagine being a merc and you find yourself at the beach. You think "its pretty empty here, ima go nap on that rock"
You then wake up screaming as a bunch of giant crabs are crawling all over you eating you alive
urban flax
I highly doubt that could happen
And I don't see coconut crabs posing a threat to anything else than a sleeping human either
They'd be cool as ambient AI tho
And free food for carnis
maiden epoch
<@!359735545238257676> That scent suggestion not only makes scent less clear, bu...
But Human can at least see footprints
whole mural
This will be great when we get weather, during long periods of no rain the river and lake will drop water level then the rain come and they film up again ?
urban flax
maybe
maiden epoch
This will be great when we get weather, during long periods of no rain the river...
And footprints and Scents will disappear faster
whole mural
And footprints and Scents will disappear faster
Oh yeah
sacred moat
I highly doubt that could happen
And I don't see coconut crabs posing a threat t...
Well since they’d be coastal, they can pose a threat to pteras that either have broken wings and can’t fly or hatching/eggs left unguarded
urban flax
Hatchlings yes
Adult pteras ? No way
sacred moat
An injured ptera? I think so definitely
Coconut crabs get MASSIVE
Ntm one pinching a pteras neck would kill it
From what I’m seeing about them, they can crush shit with over 700lbs of force using their claws
urban flax
Yeah how is one gonna catch a ptera ? Even if one can't fly, I'm sure it's still way faster than a coconut crab
And even a massive one would still be much smaller than the ptera (which I remind you is 80 kg)
sacred moat
I don’t see a juvi/sub ptera that has fractured bones really moving at all
If it slams into a rock cliff and breaks it wing from that impact, it falling to the ground is sure to break more bones
You already lose half your hp from crashing to the floor if you hit a tree high enough
Add fractured wings and legs into the mix, yeah that ptera is essentially free food for anything
urban flax
Well maybe
But something that only poses a threat to a half-dead paper plane still can't really be considered a threat gameplay-wise
sacred moat
Is ptera essentially not a paper plane
urban flax
gameplay-wise it is
sacred moat
Well maybe
But something that only poses a threat to a half-dead paper plane sti...
Wait- you just explained why it would be a threat gameplay wise
urban flax
Wait- you just explained why it would be a threat gameplay wise
No, something that can only threatened a weakened version of the weakest playable (excluding hypsi) can't be considered a threat. If you go by that logic dryos are a threat to all life
sacred moat
It’s not meant to just be an active ptera hunter, it can be an opportunistic AI that feeds on small pteras or injured ones. But for the most part can just be a decent sized meal for healthy adult pteras
urban flax
Yes, on the most part coconut crabs would just be free food, that's my point
sacred moat
Yes, I was adding onto the horror factor of them if you get yourself in a shitty situation on the coast
maiden epoch
Colour blind mode is a must
Just don't be Colour blind Duh
lavish quail
Just don't be Colour blind Duh
bruh moment
maiden epoch
if you homeless just buy a house its so simple
lavish quail
👏 👏 👏
sudden kelp
@dense meteor so you are saying a dryo would grow in 20 minutes? Thats too quick in my opinion. The diets will be easy to find after everyone goes back to playing carnivore. growing a stego in 2,5 h is pretty ridicolous.
lavish quail
i mean you tried growing steg yet?
plus you can already grow it in 3h,12m if you speedrun diets
dense meteor
<@!745072724317044747> so you are saying a dryo would grow in 20 minutes? Thats ...
If a dryo is scary to you man than I'm sorry
zealous violet
<@!745072724317044747> so you are saying a dryo would grow in 20 minutes? Thats ...
Ive been growing a stego since last night on a great/perfect diet and it took forever just to reach 50% well over four hours. I dont really think there is a 2.5 hour growth. But I wont know for sure until I can get on the server, A Home Away, to find out with my admin powers.
sick star
I'm pretty sure this has been discussed already. If so, sorry for the repeat question, but are there going to three gamemodes in the new Isle. Like...
Sandbox - start as a baby and grow, or start as an adult, for any dino
Survival - start as a baby and grow into adult, stay as adult and live as long as you can earning perks
Main - start as baby, grow in adult, into elder, turn into mutations (if you want), earn perks for next life then die amd start over.
honest sparrow
No idea if elders turn into mutations personally, but both would be in survival
As survival is the “main” game mode
paper oriole
Spoiled food is one thing but I feel that having swamp water give sickness just screws over herbivores who need to go to swamps for their plants
paper oriole
What would ulgubulshsfbsisnsusaurusbeven hunt in the desert
Velo lived in a desert iirc
barren zephyr
Whatever else lived there honestly I just learned about it and thought. Hey- sandy boi
paper oriole
And proto
weak dune
We don't have a desert biome right now though so its entirely out of place unless they add one
And we don't know that they will
paper oriole
Ugleishehfisaurus' desert niche can be filled by velo easily if we get one
barren zephyr
I mean based on all the articles I read it was the largest thing in its desert environment, outsizing every other predator including the tyrannosaurus if lived along side by a lot
paper oriole
Yeah but like what herbivore would be forced to live in a desert biome just to make udhdhdidsbsaurus viable
barren zephyr
Also if maybe one day they make a range of maps and one of them has a huge desert on it that could need to be crossed to find fresh food- and we’re good was so sparce the apexes would starve out- there’s this dude
Plus you could toss a river and an oasis in the middle of the desert as a quick pit stop where deinos would also lie in wait and you have a challenge for herbivores
paper oriole
So make some herbi game cycle more tedious just so ulgusbsshusaurus has something to hunt
barren zephyr
I mean in a desert that’s kinda how things would be
This is all depending on if they make half a map a desert
paper oriole
Yeah but this is all just to add one dry allosaurus
barren zephyr
And before you say but people won’t play on it- I say yes they will
And yea- cause Allo would starve and dehydrate where this guy wouldn’t-
paper oriole
I mean hes just another allosaur relative isnt he
barren zephyr
Nah
paper oriole
Why i used the term
paper oriole
Carchars are allosaur relatives iirc
barren zephyr
Are they?
barren zephyr
Ohhh allosauria contains all them
paper oriole
Yeah theyre a pretty big group
They reigned as apexes for a long time, very diverse range
barren zephyr
Yeah idk why but I thought that they had their own little branch apart- but yeah, if it’s not broken. Don’t need to fix it. Just make it bigger
paper oriole
If theres a decent sized desert roster that doesn’t just make the life cycle for outside animals or scewed to one faction more tedious it would be better
Just like the coastal biome buildup it needs more than like one or two things
barren zephyr
I mean just like today with large creatures like giraffes and large antelope sometimes living in the desert supporting lions there would definitely have been some large prey for it back then. I mean- why else would a species have evolved to be bigger than every other predator around?
Also if they added desert stuff I’d definitely like atleast 2 desert herbivores and 2 desert carnivores, specifically designed around it
Would be cool
paper oriole
Like with the coastal idea people came up with current roster dinos that would live there while also adding new ones without interrupting any play cycles. Would probably be more constructive to build a desert biome roster that supports adding a new desert apex
For a suggestion
Like list dinos who would live there and how theyd live there
barren zephyr
Fair enough, thou through very quick research it seemed there were a few ankylosaur relatives that lived there. I don’t know the size, but those. Can bd pretty big meals
paper oriole
Aside from that how would they love there without it being miserable so people would actually be willing to play them, “this guy can eat this dino” doesn’t really get people to play that dino. Gotta build a roster thats appealing to pick over others
Like diets and perks for dinos in the desert biome
barren zephyr
True- I’ll think up a solid desert roster. And honestly considering creatures tending to be small in the desert the new thing would probably be an apex carnivore
paper oriole
Id like to play in a desert just for the aesthetic but not if its miserable lol
barren zephyr
I mean deserts are kinda miserable
barren cloud
You guys see the animations for Cera devs just posted?
Early but gives me hope they are working more on it than I thought.
weak dune
Like with the coastal idea people came up with current roster dinos that would l...
Honestly I'd rather they fill out a diverse ecosystem with what we already have to work with, beach/ocean and all, than have them go try to build and balance a whole new ecosystem around a new biome they might not even already want to make.
Would be interesting to eventually see some ocean life
paper oriole
a coastal roster probably wouldnt be too hard considering we already have a coast lol
id love to see plateo and baryonix there for starters
weak dune
Yeah, and once they get some basic swimming mechanics down for more oceanic dwelling species it wouldn't be hard to migrate those mechanics to new playables
paper oriole
pachy already visits near those areas for its diet right
weak dune
Pretty sure that's what they're trying to do with building up mechanic-heavy dinos right now as is
Not sure about Pachy
Not playable yet. I know it eats coconuts but there are coconut trees up in the plains and hills so
paper oriole
so pachy and plateo already could run in to eachother for coconut competition
since coconuts are in the plains and most likely on the coast as well
man i hope they dont make plateo some boring inland generic herbi
hoary dawn
that is already how its gonna work
carnivores have preferred prey because that prey will give them more nutrients than others
paper oriole
literally all meat would be have protein why would tenonto and pachy have more than other herbis lol
all carnis are gonna need protein that alone wouldnt keep carno to its preferred diet
tiny geyser
all carnis are gonna need protein that alone wouldnt keep carno to its preferred...
No, like carno would prefer more protein rich creatures and would have to fill its protein bar more than the others. So it would rather go after more protein rich creatures.
tiny geyser
literally all meat would be have protein why would tenonto and pachy have more t...
I was just using that as a quick example
I should have explained it better, my apologies
feral solstice
@barren zephyr honestly I think you could slip that in #phase-three-requests
barren zephyr
wait since when aren’t we getting hypers
paper oriole
Why would they do that just to remove them. Also just eating some lizard to get a strain would be dumb and luck based rather than skill based
barren zephyr
wonder how you will even get hyper in the first place
paper oriole
Hopefully a hard process that isnt rng/luck based lmao
Oh hey i happened to be where this fancy strain lizard is, time for me to collapse the whole ecosystem
barren zephyr
maybe you have to be an elder then find some sort of thing to transmutate yourself into
zealous violet
So wait, we were getting hypos, then we werent then we were and now we arnt again? Damn devs, make up your friggen mind and stop leading us on all the dang time.
paper oriole
Honey badgers and hyenas also attack other mammals who have exposed genitals to bite off
Why do you want this to be a thing
unreal ridge
i feel it is necessary to prevent over packing
paper oriole
Velos are low value dinos youd have people literally risking death just to castrate people as a loltroll moment
unreal ridge
whats a better way to stop a utah pack from multiplying than biting off their "things"
paper oriole
Pretty sure all that stuff is internal on reptiles
paper oriole
unreal ridge
the reason it works for honey badgers is that its excruciatingly painful and the larger animal just kinda has to stay there a little while to recover
paper oriole
Man im glad i saved that suggestion before it got sniped lmao
paper oriole
Mammals have exposed bits that are easy to grab, reptiles dont. If you can take the effort to dig into a dinos underbelly to just inconvenience it you may as well just dig into its neck to kill it at that point
unreal ridge
ah okay
zealous violet
Hold up- Stego cannot use its tail when its out of stamina? Its only real defense and it can't even swing it? Like at all? Why not just make it do only half damage instead or something? Thats crazy. But I guess its been working out since I never noticed it until just now.
paper oriole
Well it is swinging a big ol muscle slab on its back. The only thing wrong is its attack is stupid it needs a swing at some point too
The jab is kinda lame, it feels incomplete without the iconic swing/sweep
sacred moat
by sweep, do you mean the attack it had in legacy?
vale pawn
what was the suggestion
paper oriole
Tommy's suggestion?
paper oriole
Imagine having to animate that lol
vale pawn
oh god
paper oriole
No surprise that people consistently misuse the phase two request channel for game suggestions
Wh-
honest sparrow
I saw punch typing for a solid second and got scared
karmic plank
TI is a 15+ game but we don't need sketchy stuff ey
hoary dawn
kinda just suggesting deinos do what they already do
barren zephyr
hi
honest sparrow
monke suggestion
vale pawn
🦧
crystal trail
I saw punch typing for a solid second and got scared
Oh don't mind me, just reading feedback channels.
honest sparrow
ah ok
sick pond
punch jumpscare
barren zephyr
he is indeed reading
vale pawn
any ones that got ur attention 
sick pond
he's reading this too even
honest sparrow
we do NOT know each other
barren zephyr
not at all
hoary dawn
ptera is NOT a dondi alt
vale pawn
barren zephyr
you know his secret
sick pond
how much did dondi pay you to say that
honest sparrow
uh
hoary dawn
2
honest sparrow
7
vale pawn
;
barren zephyr
why is agave speaking
honest sparrow
agave
hoary dawn
anyway monke bad
barren zephyr
yes
sick pond
yeah monke bad
paper oriole
Why not just use birds as messengers since they wont get merked by herreras in trees or everything else on the ground
karmic plank
I think monkey AI would be good. Something for Hererra to hunt and something to mess with ptera
sick pond
can't they just use drones or something? they got the ability to clone dinosaurs why tf they training chimps to do this shit
barren zephyr
i think gwt likes quetzal
sick pond
just like america
paper oriole
Liberating utah packs
hoary dawn
drone striking utahs is a good cause
sick pond
bringing freedom to the isle
icy lion
lets not troll and derail this chat, please
sick pond
we do a little trolling (my apolocheese)
icy lion
we do a little trolling (my apolocheese)
all gouda
barren zephyr
sick pond
but for real, why trained chimps?
hoary dawn
things like carrier pigeons would make more sense since pigeon ai is confirmed
barren zephyr
:)))
vale pawn
we are confirmed
barren zephyr
^
crystal trail
@strong nymph On the QA servers we've been testing out some new servers that are hosted on Linux instead of Windows. That's likely what we'll be swapping over to entirely, as our Linux hosted servers have been completely lag free during the Mechanic Test so far.
I wouldn't eat those if I were you.
Open your character panel to see your preferred foods.
Your preferred foods are also scented in green
vale pawn
daring shuttle
but for real, why trained chimps?
cause monkes are fucking dope as shit and would be cool as rad ass and would be sick noodles
fr though, I think it would be something unique, and maybe it doesn't have to be delivery apes, just apes that they were experimenting on and you escape out of capture as a baby monke throuhg a vent and have to live in the ecosystem,
im curious to see what punch would think of my idea, as the isle team is very out there with ideas, going from jurassic park too hybrid dinos to cannibals to humans in game and shit
daring shuttle
I got exactly what you want
yeah but monkes are way hotter
honest sparrow
yeah but monkes are way hotter
for many reasons, including legal ones, I disagree
daring shuttle
for many reasons, including legal ones, I disagree
time ti make aids 2.0 😉
paper oriole
Monkeys more like bush meat
hoary dawn
having a playable that doesn't fall into any of the major factions would feel really out of place
daring shuttle
having a playable that doesn't fall into any of the major factions would feel re...
it would be in the human category, almost like the pachy is going to be in primal carnage.
hoary dawn
what
pachy is in the dinosaur category in pce, cuz its a dinosaur
who told you it was gonna be on the human side
still lily
i constantly keep rubber banding
also i keep finding food from every other dinosaurs diet except mine, horned melon, etc
i can't find raddish at all
karmic plank
Server issues are best talked about in the associated channel (e.g. #evrima-na)
hoary dawn
also i keep finding food from every other dinosaurs diet except mine, horned mel...
you have to go to the biome your preferred food is located in and use sniff, if the scent trail is green that means its your preferred food
still lily
people say that green is everything besides raddish tho
hoary dawn
well if raddish is in your diet then the green will lead you to it
people that say otherwise are misinformed
well, the green will lead to any of your diet requirements, so it isn't 100% garunteed to be raddish, you just have to keep looking
karmic plank
Several people have reported that radishes don't always have a green scent, it could be a bug
paper oriole
carno deserves to get oneshot by adult stegos it is 1000% a carno's fault if it dies to one
bet when brachi comes there'll be allo mains whining when they are oneshot by one
urban flax
I prefer carnis but I hate being part of the carni mains community
maiden epoch
As Carni Main
I'm OK with Stego one shot but not with the current Swipe Hitbox
But I Dont agree with Tento one-shot on Utahs I would rather like if they mix it with the fracture feature when they release it
But I wait because of the U4 changes because now Herbis will have a harder time so maybe tento should keep his one shot on utahs but still the Stego swipe hitbox need a bit fixes
manic flint
Ofc teno would one shot a Utah
Utah is smaller than its tail
It gets absolutely smooshed
No way it should survive
paper oriole
As Carni Main
I'm OK with Stego one shot but not with the current Swipe Hitbox
B...
is stego tail sniping carnos from 500 yards away? you have to approach one to get hit, the tail hitbox may be wonky hitting things on rocks but a carno still has to willfully approach the stego that it shouldnt even be fighting with in order to be hit by it. even with the hitbox issue it should be oneshotting carnos because carno is entirely capable of avoiding the situation alltogether
maiden epoch
is stego tail sniping carnos from 500 yards away? you have to approach one to ge...
I didn't said stego shouldn't One Shot Utah and Carno just that the Hitbox need a Bit Fixing because of it's Phantom Range
maiden epoch
Ofc teno would one shot a Utah
Utah is smaller than its tail
It gets absolutely ...
Just because it's smaller doesn't mean it has to die
You could step on a dog or kick it 5 metres away and he survives just has some bones break
manic flint
When you're 500 pounds and a 1.3 ton hadrosaur smashes you with its tail you are very dead
urban flax
There is not a 1 ton weight difference between a human and a dog though
manic flint
Exactly
maiden epoch
And that what I was up to that they mix it with the Fracture system like Utah has 15-25% but has massive bone break and probably can't escape the tento if the pack don't help him
paper oriole
at that point the utah may as well just die
also nitpick but tenonto isnt a hadro too
maiden epoch
Yes but it's not a Instant one shot but you have Let's say a 20% chance that if your pack feeds you and defends you to survive at the End
paper oriole
uf a utah is his anywhere on the front of its body its ribs are done, its skull and spine are done
maiden epoch
Head would kill of course but not the back near the tail
karmic plank
As Carni Main
I'm OK with Stego one shot but not with the current Swipe Hitbox
B...
That's nothing to do with hitboxes and all to do with client-side hit registration
paper oriole
sure utah shouldnt die one hit if it gets hit on its back end, but anywhere on the front end from the ribcage to the head should mince it
maiden epoch
Yep
karmic plank
On their screen you were in range, sucks that you weren't on your screen but the server doesn't argue with the result unless they are way, way off
maiden epoch
And why is it possible for Stego to hit above him sometimes?
Already saw a PT get Hit by a Stego
urban flax
Well otherwise stegos would be fodder to pteras
karmic plank
Oh, that one is because the hitbox is taller than it realistically should be, and yeah what Bub said
karmic plank
Ptera got a big nerf since it was last an issue but faster than you might think
urban flax
Doesn't matter if the stego can't defend itself
maiden epoch
Doesn't matter if the stego can't defend itself
Well he if you see it realistic he don't have to because of the plates on his back ( they could add that)
karmic plank
In U3 ptera did 50, 100 to stego head, and stegos had 4k hp - so 40 bites
Good ptera who could hard spin and bite ever spin could kill one in about a minute
urban flax
Well he if you see it realistic he don't have to because of the plates on his ba...
The plates on stego's back already don't take any damage
But that still changes nothing
When playing as a ptera I could easily peck a stego' head
maiden epoch
The plates on stego's back already don't take any damage
But that still changes ...
I mean that it defends him from dmg from above
urban flax
I mean that it defends him from dmg from above
Not really
karmic plank
Plates are no clip, and yeah realistically they should take no damage and collide with ptera so ptera couldn't attack stego at all... But that was probably a bit too hard so they just have them a tall tail hitbox instead
karmic plank
True, but ptera has no real place trying to kill stego anyway imo
maiden epoch
They're not armor
I mean it should not that it can atm
PT is a Baby Killer or PVE Dino
At least it's supposed to be
urban flax
True, but ptera has no real place trying to kill stego anyway imo
If they have a target that can't defend itself, they won't ignore it just because they're "not supposed to"
Remember dryo killing squads ?
karmic plank
Stego plates were probably mostly keratin and would have been too tough for Ptera to really damage, especially from the air, and yeah they could if gone to all the trouble of making the plates work properly so ptera could attack their head... But I think the solution chosen was reasonable
karmic plank
If they have a target that can't defend itself, they won't ignore it just becaus...
I regularly hunted carno as ptera for that reason haha. Plus yes also dryo gangs were a lot of fun
Anyway that's why stego has a strangely tall tail hitbox, and the other issues with getting hit when you think you are well clear is just because of how the net code has been done
simple comet
Are oranges and mountain ash going to drop from the trees. Do we know if it’s confirmed?
urban flax
Looks like so, according to the last phase two posts
quick apex
Is there away to penalization herb on herb killing on sight, or mix packing herbs and carnivores?
or even cannibalism
urban flax
Why would there be one ?
paper oriole
Cannibalism will be punished for many species with diets, mixpacking will be discouraged with diets. Dont see any reason or plausible way to punish same-species killing though
urban flax
btw @barren zephyr What makes you believe we won't be getting hypers in the recode ?
dense meteor
I think we will but it won't be as op
remote briar
plz let tribals have dino whistles. lol PLZZZZZZZ
paper oriole
I think we will but it won't be as op
Hypers are supposed to be op thats their whole point
paper oriole
How can magy possibly be made tanky enough to deal with mid tiers when its smaller than a tenonto
Diablo has a better body shape + 4 sharp spikes on its head, the two cant really be compared
karmic plank
Unless there's a change from the current "HP=Weight" formula magy will need something else to discourage predators and KoSers
It's not really enough to be a poor food source
And simply being tanky just seems like it would delay the inevitable
dense meteor
Hypers are supposed to be op thats their whole point
Let me elaborate, I think there will be hypers but not to that extent of actually being considered hypers more like elders with special perks thats it harder to kill? Maybe depending on which perk they get let's say they reach elder and get to pick 3 randomly selected perks out of a pool of 16 perks
urban flax
That'd be lame
Why remove a part of the lore and what makes it an actual sci-fi horror game for the sake of... what exactly ? balance ?
paper oriole
Let me elaborate, I think there will be hypers but not to that extent of actuall...
There is nothing to suggest this is the case
Hypers are supposed to be busted, they are ecosystem wipers
dense meteor
It probably won't be as op as yall think it will be but I guess time will only tell
Stronger than everything else? Yes unkillable God like creature? Nope
urban flax
I kinda hope strains will be looked at like gods of some sorts
Not unkillable, but not something you wanna challenge, no matter what
Something that only endgame-geared mercenaries would dare to attack
barren zephyr
The devs have really directed their toward making the elders super power, I believe they are replacing the Hypers with Elders.
But that's just my opinion.
urban flax
Elders are the bridge between the normal creature and strains I guess
Also why would they redesign strains just to scrap them ?
barren zephyr
To drag the peoples attention from what they are really working on. The isle Devs have done it before.
We haven't seen any other hypo remodels
urban flax
barren zephyr
lol
I want to make it clear, that I have nothing to support this. Its just my speculation.
urban flax
Seems far-fetched but whatever
paper oriole
No way are they replacing hypers with elders after they made a new hyper rex concept so recently lmao
karmic plank
Every time I've seen strains discussed its been a "years" type time frame
paper oriole
Plus hypers are so iconic to the isle
karmic plank
Plus hypers are so iconic to the isle
^
I highly doubt strains will be scrapped but they are much lower priority than the main roster and mechanics
paper oriole
Id guess tribals personally
Titanboa may as well get scrapped for how much of a fodder animal itd be and the added difficulty of rigging it
karmic plank
If I was placing a bet, it would be mercs
paper oriole
Mercs first yeah but of the three things up there tribals seem like the easiest to add first
urban flax
Titanboa may as well get scrapped for how much of a fodder animal itd be and the...
If both titanoboa and strains are scrapped, what are the chances of seeing a titanoboa strain ?
karmic plank
Titanboa is very unlikely (how would it even work?) tribals is a lot of work with AI interactions but it's some of the best bang-for-your-buck imo
urban flax
If I was placing a bet, it would be mercs
Mercs coming by end of the year according to devs, so yes
And I want to trust them on this
karmic plank
Mercs aren't that much in terms of mechanics, and Vis has been hard at work on them
paper oriole
Titanboa should just get replaced by palaeophis in the far future
karmic plank
The impression I got was that the mercs themselves were mostly there, mainly the structures and such that still needed to be done
urban flax
Titanboa should just get replaced by palaeophis in the far future
Bruh they're the same thing
Wait
It has legs
That's cursed as hell
karmic plank
Any snake-like Dino will be an absolute nightmare to code and implement
paper oriole
Bruh they're the same thing
Nah palaeophis is a badass sea snake and titanboa is just an obese elephant trunk snake
karmic plank
Like, name 2 games with large playable snakes
urban flax
Like, name 2 games with large playable snakes
Snake pass
Conan exiles
paper oriole
Palae would be a full aquatic so probably less of a hassle to animate but idk much about animating so
karmic plank
Conan idk much about
urban flax
It's the largest living thing in the game
urban flax
Palae would be a full aquatic so probably less of a hassle to animate but idk mu...
Well titanoboa was fully aquatic too irl
karmic plank
But it's really hard to do like snake pass has it
paper oriole
Well titanoboa was fully aquatic too irl
It is swamp aquatic aka deino fodder
Also it cant even constrict, F tier boa
urban flax
Well it can still be magically fictionalized
karmic plank
Cool but yeah dunno how it would share with deino
sacred moat
It can’t constrict?
paper oriole
It could be, but itll be fodder unless they pull some mad shit for it
karmic plank
Titanboa AI would be OK I think
paper oriole
Palae would have a much more open biome to inhabit and avoid its predators
paper oriole
It can’t constrict?
Pretty sure he couldn’t unhinge his jaw like modern boas either, just ate fish and other small stuff
karmic plank
Sucho in its own land-locked river network would be cool
Keep it segregated from deino and it would be a fun alternative
sacred moat
What’s to stop spinos from bullying it from rivers
sacred moat
That sounds a little depressing ngl
Forced to the outskirts of the island because the other dinos in your area do a better job at existing than you
sacred moat
If spino wasn’t a thing, then yeah sucho could be the king of rivers
But what’s stopping me, a spino, from pushing you, a sucho, from off the river edges
I won’t even get into why sucho would do worse in swamps
karmic plank
I mean, so are crocs (relatively speaking) and they are stealthy
Oh wait
I did a big dumb
I thought sucho was something else
sacred moat
?
karmic plank
Isn't there a smaller aquatic alligator called sucho or something similar?
sacred moat
My point still stands that sucho is a walking bag of uselessness
karmic plank
I don't think I played legacy when sucho was a thing, what was their shtick?
honest sparrow
Sucho’s schtick was that it fucked mid tiers but got fucked by apexes
lavish quail
@wanton hull after realising Magy is gonna be added
karmic plank
Was sucho just a budget spino?
sacred moat
I don't think I played legacy when sucho was a thing, what was their shtick?
Well on non official servers, they were AI hunting Care Bears that only really survived because of water protection rules. But on officials, their only threat were mid tier packs or any and every apex trotting them down
lavish quail
Was sucho just a budget spino?
Hopefully not in evrima
sacred moat
But sub Rex and sub giga still clapped
karmic plank
Ah, now I get where you were coming from about evrima and deino
dense meteor
No way are they replacing hypers with elders after they made a new hyper rex con...
They've made a hyper rex concept? Where can I find it
paper oriole
lavish quail
That’s pretty old right?
sacred moat
Ah, now I get where you were coming from about evrima and deino
Maybe if sucho was faster than deino in the water, I wouldn’t see an issue. But that would look stupid seeing a sucho outswim a deino
lavish quail
I don’t want hypos back ever
paper oriole
Its the new hyper rex, its not like last week new but it isnt the old hyper
This is evrima new
lavish quail
Maybe if sucho was faster than deino in the water, I wouldn’t see an issue. But ...
I see sucho as a swamp boi
sacred moat
Wasn’t the point of hypo Rex to literally look cool and die of starvation?
sacred moat
I see sucho as a swamp boi
Okay, but deino will literally bully them for fun.
paper oriole
Private servers will be able to disable strains
lavish quail
Okay, but deino will literally bully them for fun.
Yeah that’s probably true
lavish quail
Private servers will be able to disable strains
Oh god no their not thinking about it are they?
paper oriole
Huh?
karmic plank
There does seem to be a lot more landlocked waterways now, not all would support deino, but surely that's spino territory
paper oriole
You dont want private servers to be able to disable them?
lavish quail
Please no no no no I like my game don’t make it weird
paper oriole
The isle has always been weird
lavish quail
Don’t add sci-fi mega ark survival dinos again
sacred moat
There does seem to be a lot more landlocked waterways now, not all would support...
My point exactly, whatever deino can’t really reach, spino can easily reach it. As a spino player, would you rather compete for fish in deino infested swamps or go to safer land lock water ways where your best threat is a sucho
paper oriole
Dont forget tissoplastic and neurotenic strains
lavish quail
We don’t like strains
karmic plank
"We"?
paper oriole
I like strains, im just salty that herbis arent getting shit
The dev bias leaked through hard on strains
lavish quail
That’s why strains suck mainly
sacred moat
I hate carnivore bias
lavish quail
Other reasons too -realism game-
paper oriole
Carnis get a lot of badass cool stuff and herbis get to be a gore pile
karmic plank
I like the idea of strains, haven't yet seen a good implementation so holding judgement
lavish quail
They say they don’t want a pvp game but then strains exist
paper oriole
They didnt say it isnt a pvp game
lavish quail
They said that multiple times
cyan flame
Horror survival PvPvE That does include PvP, it's more so that they don't want a deathmatch style game.
sacred moat
Lmao I remember the days when the only thing fast enough to out run the hypo Rex were the carnos. Everything else just prayed that the hypo was feeling merciful
paper oriole
They said that not everything is intended to fight, and things that are intended to fight arent supposed to fight everything
lavish quail
They want pvp interaction but not a game about fighting
paper oriole
They said running away is something you gotta do sometimes instead of pvp
cyan flame
Then again, strains is also outside normal gameplay
lavish quail
Lmao I remember the days when the only thing fast enough to out run the hypo Rex...
The Rex just starved.
paper oriole
They didnt say it isnt a pvp game
cyan flame
At the very least hypers are
paper oriole
Hypers were lucky because 2/3 of a server would flock over to get screenshots even if it got them killed lol
lavish quail
Hypos still starved after 3/4 of players swarmed to them
paper oriole
Tbf thats kinda their purpose anyway
lavish quail
Also wtf was the neuro spino
sacred moat
Hypers were lucky because 2/3 of a server would flock over to get screenshots ev...
It’s like the people that get out of their trucks to take pictures of the bison at Yellowstone and end up getting charged at
cyan flame
And they're meant to. It's a short term powertrip, at least how it was designed
paper oriole
Destroy the ecosystem and then die
lavish quail
Why did it exist
cyan flame
Neuros were supposed to be able to control weather and stuff, at least neuro spino I think
karmic plank
Someone had a suggestion a while back for hypos being this word boss type event that you would actually be motivated to go and fight
lavish quail
That’s why strains are gay
karmic plank
Can't seem to find it now
paper oriole
Neuros are like wizards, hypers are berserkers and tissos are rogues
lavish quail
Someone had a suggestion a while back for hypos being this word boss type event ...
That would be cool but then again insta kill by larger toxic player
cyan flame
At least used to be, no idea what the tisso will be anymore, since they got a rework
sacred moat
Then there’s magna Rex
cyan flame
And the raptor for that matter
lavish quail
Strains don’t need to exist if the game continues in the way it’s heading
sacred moat
Oh god the hypo Utah was cursed
cyan flame
Maybe they don't need to, but they will because they're part of the game
lavish quail
Oh god the hypo Utah was cursed
Legacy is cursed
sacred moat
FOUR sickle claws
cyan flame
Not the hyper utah, the magnaraptor :p
karmic plank
Maybe strains could be something tribals could do, capture you and corrupt you, then you either become AI or you hullucinate too badly to function normally
lavish quail
Oh god the hypo Utah was cursed
People treat evrima raptor like that because “I DoNT WaNnA PLAy JP RaPTor It LOoKs BaD sO I’lL iGnoRe gaMePlAY
sacred moat
Itll be a sad day once someone finds out how to become a hypo and leaks the steps
lavish quail
anyone who doesn’t play Utah cause of its looks should actually just play a worse but fitting game like BoB
lavish quail
Itll be a sad day once someone finds out how to become a hypo and leaks the step...
Hypo videos on YouTube were hella gay
There is an IGP one that makes me want to vommit
cyan flame
anyone who doesn’t play Utah cause of its looks should actually just play a wors...
Why? So I shouldn't be playing this game because there are some critters, utah included, whos looks or sounds and all I don't care for all that much? ^^
cyan flame
Itll be a sad day once someone finds out how to become a hypo and leaks the step...
I think they once stated it'll be so many things to do that even if you did record it all, you'd never know which one in particular that allowed you to become a hyper. And that they might change it up even, so you'll never quite know. Or something like that
lavish quail
Why? So I shouldn't be playing this game because there are some critters, utah i...
If it was for gameplay reasons I don’t really care but looks? Really man? It looks awesome and has the best animations in evrima rn
sacred moat
I think they once stated it'll be so many things to do that even if you did reco...
Hopefully they’re constantly changing it
karmic plank
Or have it randomised. There are 100 possible things, you need 30 of them
sacred moat
Tbf it is a nightmare to the game
lavish quail
I hate strains with a passion but that’s just me
karmic plank
Idk. Strains are cool but I'm not sold
lavish quail
Mainly cause of neuro
I like my survival game without wizard apex’s
Why can they manufacture weather we’ll never know cause lore is too confusing and too little
cyan flame
If it was for gameplay reasons I don’t really care but looks? Really man? It loo...
To each their own. I'll play what I like, simple as that :p
barren cloud
Personally, whatever they look like or sound like, all I want is that they do a good job. Doesn’t matter if it’s reminiscent of JP or whatever. As long as the models are really detailed and well done and the audio is high quality then I’m happy.
karmic plank
Don't get me started on how incessantly noisy Utah is
sacred moat
Someone suggested this earlier but I they should make the dinos a lot less noisier when sitting
maiden epoch
@barren zephyr for your Idea to work and the map works there has to be Like 1000 players per server, means nearly every player would play on 1 Map
sacred moat
As a Utah I rarely sit, I just crouch and get stam back because your Utah makes no noise when crouching
karmic plank
Someone suggested this earlier but I they should make the dinos a lot less noisi...
less quiet?
karmic plank
I asked rather stridently that they be more quiet, and near silent when sniffing
Oh, I've made a few of those tonight. First day of nightshift and my brain is not working properly
There was an argument for them to be a bit noisy for anti bush grow but with diets...
lavish quail
Personally, whatever they look like or sound like, all I want is that they do a ...
its more of a small Legacy than JP
lavish quail
They should just start stinking if they afk in place too long
thats not really a problem now that diets are a thing
paper oriole
Thatll punish AFKers while not screwing over people trying to hide from a passerby
barren cloud
thats not really a problem now that diets are a thing
What do you mean?
lavish quail
What do you mean?
camping=bad
paper oriole
thats not really a problem now that diets are a thing
Not sure how hard carni diets gonna be considering they might just have to sit and wait for the herbis to come to the biomes
lavish quail
Not sure how hard carni diets gonna be considering they might just have to sit a...
cant wait for utah ambush areas for that
barren cloud
camping=bad
Oh right, I see what you mean.
paper oriole
cant wait for utah ambush areas for that
lol as if 90% of utah packs even ambush
lavish quail
cant wait for utah ambush areas for that
like hiding on a ledge or riverside waiting for unsuspecting prey
paper oriole
They just run up in your face
lavish quail
lol as if 90% of utah packs even ambush
promoted now that diets are thing
idk what utahs your up against
but lucky
paper oriole
I dont see how diets will encourage different hunting methods on the same animals
Most utahs are stupid and dont even bother trying to sneak up on people
lavish quail
deinos arent really effect neither are pteras
paper oriole
Deinos arent affected at all by diet
lavish quail
Most utahs are stupid and dont even bother trying to sneak up on people
damn your lucky af, i play utahs by bleed out after an ambush
barren cloud
I think the diet changes just affect herbies and this will organically steer carnivores into hunting in high traffic areas
paper oriole
Im usually sneakier than the raptors i see honestly
lavish quail
I think the diet changes just affect herbies and this will organically steer car...
i think it promotes a bit of competition between each carnivore
paper oriole
Yeah diets mainly just feel like a ball and chain for herbi players since all carnis have to do most likely is wait at trafficked areas
My preferred target likes coocnuts? Ill just hide in this bush near the coconut trees til one shows up
paper oriole
But well see soon i suppose
lavish quail
depends when utahs added yeah
paper oriole
I hope it makes things harder for carnis and it isnt just more work for herbis so carnis can camp plant hotspots
barren cloud
Undoubtedly it’s just going to be 100 Utahs running around killing each other
lavish quail
Undoubtedly it’s just going to be 100 Utahs running around killing each other
cannibalism is bad now
barren cloud
^
paper oriole
Tenontos kfs right now already
barren cloud
Anyone that plays an herbie in the first day is probs not gonna have a great time lmao
First day of Utahs I mean
lavish quail
i basically only play dryo rn
sullen cipher
Good job Dev with this update ! Now the game is toxic and unplayable asf, got spawn killed twice by toxic cannibals of shit.
karmic plank
Utah rarely cannibalise even without diets in my experience, hope they won't start now
lavish quail
its good for mapping out the new area without admin
lavish quail
Utah rarely cannibalise even without diets in my experience, hope they won't sta...
yeah
lavish quail
Good job Dev with this update ! Now the game is toxic and unplayable asf, got sp...
Nah your just bad
hide, run, or litterally do anything other than approach players
barren cloud
i basically only play dryo rn
I respect that. I think it’s good to swap into herbies after dying as a carnivore every once in awhile.
lavish quail
I respect that. I think it’s good to swap into herbies after dying as a carnivor...
im a hypsi main xD
lavish quail
herbis are the greatest cannibals
paper oriole
Tenonto master cannibal
paper oriole
Tenonto after eating its own kind and mutating into hyperplastitenic strain
barren cloud
You know horses are know to be opportunistic omnivores? Wouldn’t be a stretch to think dinos weren’t as well.
lavish quail
You know horses are know to be opportunistic omnivores? Wouldn’t be a stretch to...
nah im pretty sure the game doesnt let you eat other tenos
lavish quail
Yeah a lot of herbis like horses and deer eat birds
horses are weird champs
barren cloud
nah im pretty sure the game doesnt let you eat other tenos
I know lol but would be funny if they let you have a taste
paper oriole
Horses kfs too and hippos as well
lavish quail
I know lol but would be funny if they let you have a taste
MMMM the smell of blood makes me angry
time to kill some dryos
karmic plank
horses are weird champs
^
paper oriole
“I will season these agaves with your blood”
karmic plank
I still would like herbivores to have little meat snacks for nutrients, but also get sick a bit like vomiting
paper oriole
POV that dryo about to die-o
paper oriole
Dryo is what i played on legacy when i wanted to spam call some carnis and them throw myself off a cliff with 0 cost of my time
lavish quail
Dryo is what i played on legacy when i wanted to spam call some carnis and them ...
ikr
best time
when the dryo gets a rex kill by dragging it off a cliff
barren cloud
I wonder if they will implement closely related dinos being able to communicate. Like a trike being able to talk to a Dibble.
paper oriole
Man im still chuckling inside at “toxic cannibals of shit”
lavish quail
Man im still chuckling inside at “toxic cannibals of shit”
comedy
paper oriole
Most ceratopsians should be pretty antisocial with other dinos
Excluding ones like taco and proto maybe
lavish quail
I wonder if they will implement closely related dinos being able to communicate....
Please do that please let me speak to troodons as dilo let me tortue half the community
paper oriole
Hadrosaurs however…
paper oriole
Id love if all hadros could group/crosschat as one of their special perks
lavish quail
I’m not so sure troodons have closely similar ancestors lol
i think the isle closely compares them
paper oriole
But not ceratopsians theyre powerhouses in single species groups or at least should be
barren zephyr
Para having a larger communication distance would be kinda neat
lavish quail
Para having a larger communication distance would be kinda neat
having a stun attack with sound mmmmmmmmm
barren zephyr
Someone suggested that a bit ago
barren zephyr
having a stun attack with sound mmmmmmmmm
Oh yes please
barren cloud
Para having a larger communication distance would be kinda neat
Omg can’t wait for the para’s godlike bellowing to roll across the plains hahaha
paper oriole
Man ive wanted a para daze for a while
barren cloud
I love the way paras sounded as an adult. So intense
barren zephyr
Omg can’t wait for the para’s godlike bellowing to roll across the plains hahaha
Me too, one of the dinos im most excited for
paper oriole
Just deafen some stupid allo with your warhorn
lavish quail
para was an excuse for a dino in legacy tho
barren zephyr
It's deep 3 call in legacy has a special place in my heart
paper oriole
Para was giga fodder
barren zephyr
Walking meat bag
lavish quail
Para was giga fodder
the only fodder for giga cause it sucks
barren cloud
Para was giga fodder
Arguably most things were
paper oriole
I got surrounded by a para group at night in legacy before and they all 3 called at once and turned my speakers to static
Made me want a daze ability
barren zephyr
The only good thing about giga was it's calls and the trot speed
barren cloud
Imagine blowing someone’s speakers out with paras lmao golden
paper oriole
The only good thing about giga was it's calls and the trot speed
Its trot was busted
barren zephyr
Fr
barren cloud
The only good thing about giga was it's calls and the trot speed
Didn’t they also get Stam during trot?
fierce raftBOT
paper oriole
Yeah rhey did
barren zephyr
Didn’t they also get Stam during trot?
They did yes
paper oriole
So trike was fodder to them too
barren zephyr
Spino does too but slower (i think)
Rex used to but it got removed with a new update to legacy
It got a speed buff and damage buff, but in turn they removed the stam regen
barren cloud
I honestly hope they get an apex in the game soon. Not that I would play it often, I just like having something that I absolutely want to avoid. Adds a little spice of fear to the game
Soonish I mean lol
karmic plank
Cera yes, sucho... Eh? Don't really understand where they fit in
pale bloom
I honestly hope they get an apex in the game soon. Not that I would play it ofte...
Rex AI was being worked on with that intention , however seems like devs decided to stop with that for now
barren cloud
Suchomimus was big?
barren zephyr
Although it would have to fear Deino a lot more than anything
karmic plank
Tbh sucho AI might not be that stupid
barren zephyr
Sucho was pretty huge iirc
barren cloud
It looks to be the same size as a Cera IMO
cyan flame
?!
karmic plank
They could slowly wander the water ways and be a menace to anyone coming close
barren zephyr
karmic plank
Makes more sense than rex
barren zephyr
I believe this is accurate
barren cloud
Oh, the comparison I saw first was inaccurate
barren zephyr
Correct me if I'm wrong please
barren cloud
No I think your right
karmic plank
I remember reading 2.5 ton
barren cloud
The first one that popped up for me was like 2/3 that size
But the rest show different
barren zephyr
barren cloud
But I think the baryonyx would fit better than sucho for Evrima.
karmic plank
Barry is basically water carno?
barren cloud
That way spino is apex of rivers and bary can still check deinos that aren’t full grown
lavish quail
But I think the baryonyx would fit better than sucho for Evrima.
bary is first
barren zephyr
Bary would fit better for now I agree
lavish quail
bary is fodder to deino tho
karmic plank
Waterways are already so cramped with just deino, can't see how more big water loving predators would work
lavish quail
so i want to see that fight or flight happen
barren zephyr
Sucho would stand a decent chance against Deino I feel, but Bary would be screweded
barren cloud
If you have bary a shorter growth time than deino, they could easily keep the young deino pop in check
lavish quail
Waterways are already so cramped with just deino, can't see how more big water l...
more diverse water ways with different biome preferences for each
karmic plank
If we got a mid swamp and a big sprawling delta it could work
barren cloud
Which in turn keeps the adult numbers lower
lavish quail
If you have bary a shorter growth time than deino, they could easily keep the yo...
thats also true
karmic plank
Salty delta for spino maybe, swamp for deino, rivers for whatever
barren cloud
I think minimum we need a faster growing low end Dino, a slow growing middle with stronger bite and an apex that takes forever for rivers
karmic plank
Deino as big gators snoozing in the swamp fits for me, but yeah maybe waders makes more sense
barren cloud
Yeah, bary and sucho would be able to access isolated bodies of water
barren cloud
Yeah, it would be good to make them need water more often than other dinos but still be able to contest on land with other apexes
Similar to how deinos water drains quickly. But maybe not quite as fast
lavish quail
@barren zephyr not done just pressed enter instead of shift enter
ebon girder
@winter hull good idea but bad reasoning
icy lion
sex and skintone options are confirmed
wise kayak
@winter hull , the isle is a ‘Dinosaur’ game, not one of those ||shitty|| mobile Dinosaur survival games where you play as a human and try to kill the dinosaurs.
lavish quail
<@722959449630834699> , the isle is a ‘Dinosaur’ game, not one of those ||shitty...
humans
-
icy lion
<@722959449630834699> , the isle is a ‘Dinosaur’ game, not one of those ||shitty...
humans have been confirmed for as long as the game has existed
wise kayak
I know
lavish quail
humans have been confirmed for as long as the game has existed
not that we got them over 7 years
wise kayak
But it would honestly ruin the game if everyone plays as a human
icy lion
not that we got them over 7 years
the first release of the isle only had playable humans. and the isle isnt 6 years old yet
wise kayak
-for me at least
lavish quail
the first release of the isle only had playable humans. and the isle isnt 6 year...
still a pretty long time without humans
icy lion
-for me at least
you'll be able to disable humans and cannibals as a server option in the future
wise kayak
Oh that’s good
lavish quail
i think humans will be cool
wise kayak
Hmm..
lavish quail
like troodons utahs and ceras will be heavily effecting them
and they'll be rouge like so after you die you lose the gear you grinded for
wise kayak
So do they get like guns etc.?
icy lion
yes
wise kayak
Damn
winter hull
<@722959449630834699> , the isle is a ‘Dinosaur’ game, not one of those ||shitty...
Why do you think there is human buildings in legacy... Why do you think the steam picture for the game is a Utahraptor eating a human corpse... Human have been attempted in legacy and are confirmed for the game.. Look it up.. Wait till you see the cannibals too.
wise kayak
I know but in my PERSONAL opinion, I would prefer it if the dinosaurs were worked on a bit more than the people.
lavish quail
I know but in my PERSONAL opinion, I would prefer it if the dinosaurs were work...
dinos are pretty perfect rn
and humans arent gonna be a threat to things like stegs and rexes
winter hull
I know but in my PERSONAL opinion, I would prefer it if the dinosaurs were work...
And you assume I don't love playing dinosaurs? I have many hours playing many of the isle legacy and evrima as you guessed it DINOSAURS. 😉 human sex and skin colour options are still important. IF i do play human and for many others I know feel the same, Having man #1 and man #2 and only 2 skin options isn't a good thing.
icy lion
there'll be sex and skintone options, dont worry
though they might not be available on the initial release of humans
winter hull
there'll be sex and skintone options, dont worry
That's good. I'm just putting it out there because it is important and I wasnt 100 percent sure. Thank you.
wise kayak
And you assume I don't love playing dinosaurs? I have many hours playing many of...
Good point
hybrid matrix
I highly doubt that could happen
And I don't see coconut crabs posing a threat t...
coconut crabs should just eat anything they can find
especially if the food cant fight back
lavish quail
@wise kayak *alpha
wise kayak
Go on
icy lion
wise kayak
Oh, thank you
hybrid matrix
i have no real problem with it i just wanna know why
imo what makes a great suggestion great is the reasoning behind it
speaking of which, anyone wanna help me come up with some more reasons for asphyxiation?
urban flax
@hybrid matrix I don't really see the reasoning behind your suggestion. Ptera in The Isle doesn't go anywhere near to 5 km high, it is blocked by the skybox way before that... I'd be surprised if it went 1 km above sea level
hybrid matrix
<@!662789651102302238> I don't really see the reasoning behind your suggestion. ...
exactly why point about reasons
my*
urban flax
Oh so you mean, increasing its max fly height to 8 km but make it drown if it flies that high ?
hybrid matrix
and based on my math (which isnt that great), ptera, from radio tower, can fly up to a height of at least 1,000 sideways pteras
and again, that creates a range of 5 to 7 thousand meters
urban flax
I still don't get it. There is literally no purpose for that mechanic. You don't have enough stam to go high up enough to asphyxiate anyway
hybrid matrix
I still don't get it. There is literally no purpose for that mechanic. You don't...
this is why i need help coming up with a reason
usually this part comes before the suggestion
urban flax
usually yes
lavish quail
this is why i need help coming up with a reason
i mean there isnt really a reason
hybrid matrix
i spent so long coming up with a detailed (and i mean HEAVILY FUCKING DETAILED) iguanadon suggestion way back in february
urban flax
Well I can't really help you finding reasons for something I don't want to see in game so... good luck I guess
lavish quail
your gonna die if your that high up really
its kinda like one of those features we'll never need
like water pressure is also quite worthless
hybrid matrix
asphyxiation started out differently
like, i came up with it and immediately thought of so many applications that make no real sense now that i think about it
its like a drunk text
i wanted to write a suggestion and so i went "fuck it" and pulled a random idea out of a hat
ebon girder
@hybrid matrix im gonna vote
hybrid matrix
alr ima turn this into a suggestion about internal bleeding
something ive mentioned in the past
lavish quail
<@!662789651102302238> im gonna vote
that name gave me ligma
honest to god want to die
hybrid matrix
alr
shout out some ideas for internal bleeding
there needs to be categories of ideas for this to be organized
lavish quail
I cant see any times your getting it
glacial quiver
Humans - I can see where the guys with guns and helicopters are trying to capture dinos and the tribal are fighting against that.
hybrid matrix
category 1
cause
cat 2
effect
cat 3
treating it
hybrid matrix
I cant see any times your getting it
when ur bones shatter they become little shards that cut u up on the inside
that was in a suggestion i made
lavish quail
internal bleeding is complicated
hybrid matrix
immense pressure is one possibility
like sudden immense pressure
so like being grabbed by a deino
lavish quail
deino already gives bleed tho
hybrid matrix
if u escape thats great and all but now ur bleeding on the inside too, which means you gotta find the right plant
lavish quail
internal bleed just seems like giving bleed to fracturing moves
and as far as we're aware bone shattering is already a thing
hybrid matrix
and as far as we're aware bone shattering is already a thing
nice
hybrid matrix
internal bleed just seems like giving bleed to fracturing moves
it kind of is, but it isnt limited to fractures
it creates a new type of attack
a pressure based move
lavish quail
i cant really see a pressure based move not killing you
you got deinos lunge which basically kills you
other moves might be like a stomp but that doesnt really work out
hybrid matrix
pressure could be a larger variety of multiple subcategories
not definitive subcats, but grey areas
theres fatal pressure and nonfatal
lavish quail
mabye cerato and allo?
its like a mechanic that requires too much effort for too little outcome
might aswell just be normal bleed
hybrid matrix
the difference is that internal bleeding could have worse effects
those effects would be piled on with the basic ones that normal bleed has
so if u have abdominal internal bleeding, u could swell up
that would cause sickness, slowness, and if ur torso is bitten, all the internal buildup comes out
adds to the horror ig
lavish quail
really just seems like things that can already happen in other ways
sickness from eating too much
hybrid matrix
thats an idea
not a particularly good idea, but tumors are an interesting thought
lavish quail
slowness from fractures
hybrid matrix
slowness from fractures
depending on the fracture it shouldnt cause slowness
leg fractures should, jaw fracturs shouldnt
what else could cause internal bleeding??
aside from pressure and shattered bones, maybe if a bleed based attack hits an artery then it wont heal properly and that could cause it
but that seems like itd be randomized based on where u get hit...
and random internal bleeding is bad
maybe instead of internal bleeding, i could make it about lead poisoning (assuming lead bullets will be a thing)
lavish quail
its too complicated to make sense
lavish quail
huh
hybrid matrix
if u get shot with a lead bullet and it pierces ur skin
maybe i'll do lead poisoning for my next suggestion
lavish quail
lead poisoning would make humans op
hybrid matrix
first for internal bleeding, lets classify attacks, not based on their damage types, but based on how they function
hybrid matrix
lead poisoning would make humans op
true
hybrid matrix
wdym
biting and stabbing are puncture based, crushing bites as well as grabs are pressure based, rams and slaps of any kind are force based, and then theres venom based
lavish quail
so each would effect you differently?
hybrid matrix
if you classify attacks based on their effects, then you have attacks that fit into multiple categories
in this classification system, the effects can overlap between two different categories
so you could have a force based attack that also does bleed damage
or a pressure based attack that can do venom damage
hybrid matrix
so each would effect you differently?
not really
lavish quail
so hows venom based work
hybrid matrix
thats a tough one
bc the explanation relies on whether or not infections (in the way i suggested them) are added
venom based is a bad way to describe it
lavish quail
so whats the way you suggested them?
hybrid matrix
if a scavenger bites u after recently eating from a rotting corpse, then the bite which usually would only be pressure based, would also be venom based
although its not actually venom, which is why im rethinking that category
lavish quail
so its like infectious
hybrid matrix
instead of venom based attacks, it could be a subcategory
lavish quail
mega strong rabies attack
hybrid matrix
after-effect based attacks
limber pelican
Hello. I would like to speak to an admin/developer. Is this the right place to ask?
lavish quail
Hello. I would like to speak to an admin/developer. Is this the right place to a...
probably not
hybrid matrix
Hello. I would like to speak to an admin/developer. Is this the right place to a...
i mean
u can ping punchpacket in #isle-discussion, but here is more about discussing the feedback and ideas of the community
so anyway, ig the best way to categorize attacks is puncture, pressure, and force with after-effect as a subcategory
since after-effect wouldnt work as its own category
lavish quail
so its like a you fought me so there is consequences thing?
hybrid matrix
situationally, yes
so
ig internal bleeding would be an after-effect of pressure and force attacks
and bleeding could be an after-effect of puncture based attacks
if you think of it as a taxonomy it makes a little more sense
now that i think about it, limiting this to attacks makes no sense
it'd have to encompass all types of damage
this is a suggestion for another day
ima do internal bleeding after damage taxonomy
ebon girder
that name gave me ligma
your mom has ligma
ember egret
is it just me or has the game gotten worse on saving dinosaurs when u log. cause this is like the 5th or 6th dino i lost after safelogging this week
hoary dawn
is it just me or has the game gotten worse on saving dinosaurs when u log. cause...
that issue is being fixed in update 4
ember egret
i know i was saying anyone else think its gotten worse tho...? also what about fps droppage, are they working on that too?
hoary dawn
they're always working on making the game run better, its their job
ember egret
so you dont really know. thanks tho
ember egret
ok, i just didnt know if it was like still a main issue or not lol cause if not most people arent having the issue then how would they know to fix the said issue...
hoary dawn
cuz people report bugs
ember egret
as in if its like just me
ember egret
ok, thx
quick apex
I'm stuck how do i unstuck out of a hole.?
honest sparrow
I'm stuck how do i unstuck out of a hole.?
Ping an admin for help or just accept your fate
karmic plank
na3 is super laggy rn
Ping @.Official Server Admin in the #evrima-na channel and someone might be able to fix it
paper oriole
Add tawbosauwus dawndi
Do people think phase two requests is just general feedback 2 electric boogaloo
karmic plank
Tarbo just looks like a sub rex, ngl
paper oriole
Make rexes who dont follow their diet growing up get stunted and max out as a tarbosaurus species change 
karmic plank
Runtasaurus
hoary dawn
phase two requests is a disaster of a channel
silver zephyr
phase two requests is a disaster of a channel
"show animations for (insert dino that is coming way down the line here)" "show (insert something that isnt even confirmed here)" "(insert something meant for another feedback channel here)"
paper oriole
Phase two requests is a train wreck just like the fanart channel
paper oriole
Man i hope they dont redo allosaurus' model it already looks good
I dont want to see it get the acro or alberto treatment
sacred moat
chungus Allo
paper oriole
They make allo fat and change his crest into the boring smoothcrest giga and acro have now lol
lavish quail
Allo cringe
urban flax
@remote briar This thing looks like it's about to die of suffocation because it has no nose
We have better monsters planned
urban flax
Doesn't really matter if the movie is good, what matters is the design of the creature and wether it fits in the game aesthetic and lore
remote briar
i was just dreaming tbh more like a mod that would be. just a really terrifying bullet proof creature that shoots white spikes. lol
urban flax
Well there's a lot of ways to make a scary monster in a videogame
I think The Isle's monsters are pretty solid in their designs