#general-feedback-discussion

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feral solstice
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You really don’t have to eat your own species

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There’s a bunch of different animals

hoary dawn
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you dont have to, but there's no reason not to

feral solstice
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But if your main target is your species, you’ll be punished

hoary dawn
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its just another thing to eat

bronze vault
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Take a look at real life, not many creatures are cannibals as it effects the overall population. As well as evolution simply making cannibalism have negative side effects, like when a human eats human you get tremors and shit. Same thing would probably be with most dinosaurs

paper oriole
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Ovi should be able to find and scrape up buried nests, since he is the egg thief, but other dinos who can eat eggs may not be able to scent the underground nests maybe

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Right now ovi seems to have literally nothing going for it at all

odd sedge
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Ovi really has nothing going for it, that's why I kind of assume/hope it will be a small tier jack of all trades. Speedy, agile, jump, parcour but not very bulky and strong.
For special attacks.. I kind of wish it could carry more than one egg around, perhaps delete its footprints by swishing up the dirt with its feathers, a nest scent and I dunno... a peck and a kick?

bronze vault
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Maybe a kick that does quite a bit of bleed? Kinda like a cassowary irl. Maybe ovi could sniff nests as well. And the deleting footprint thing sounds like a nice ability for the ovi

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Maybe it could be as fast as our current Dryo so it could also steal from faster creatures like Utah.

paper oriole
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I'm hoping it can sense nests from further off, as well as determine the incubation stage of an egg that could factor in to its nutritional value. Sense buried nests from a smaller range that are hidden to everything else to dig them up, and maybe be able to sprint while in crouch at around 2/3 the speed of true sprint

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Or something like that

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It would have been cool to see ovi with mimicry but they decided troodon that already has venom and nv needed it more somehow TI_Succ

gilded jacinth
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I just wanna be nice to our pet dinos.

meager tiger
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For a second I thought that saurpod was wearing the hat

sacred moat
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Just saying as a dinosaur, if any human tried to walk up to me and hug me or tame me, I’d drag them into the bush and feed them to my hatchlings

meager tiger
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I agree though basic emotes for tribals and their pets/companions would be nice

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Maybe war crys and displays where you can stand on your hind legs

swift dew
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the only from of "taming" that this game will have is for tribals

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and its less of "taming" and its more of beating them into submission and if they don't comply they become food

bronze vault
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This is the isle not ark where you can beat a Dino half to death with a club and shove food up its ass

meager tiger
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why not both?

bronze vault
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Hmmmm

swift dew
bronze vault
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Hmmmmmm

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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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No

meager tiger
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Absloutes savages tribes and somewhat more thoughtful but still war mongering. Like barbarians with mounts

bronze vault
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More like slavery

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Taming my ass

meager tiger
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are you against multiple tribe types/options/cultures

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in the game

bronze vault
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Maybe

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Depends

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Maybe you wanna ride a Carno to hunt a Utah

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Still slavery

meager tiger
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I don't think you understand what im saying

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Culture, customs, etc...

bronze vault
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It’s a free for all survival game

swift dew
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Im pretty sure you don't understand what a tribal is

meager tiger
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each tribe could be different and live differant ways

bronze vault
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No

meager tiger
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Thats how tribes irl worked

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why dop you think they hated each other

swift dew
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yeah you definitly don't know what a tribal in this game is

bronze vault
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Yes but this is, like I said, a free for all Dino game

meager tiger
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ok

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to each there own

swift dew
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aka the cannibals

bronze vault
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There are no different tribes, just a bunch of ppl slapped together in a group, the environment your talking about with separate tribes would be almost as bad as Utah rpers

swift dew
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you are NOT playing as primitive humans, you are playing as 9 foot tall humanoid orc-like monsters

meager tiger
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ohh

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im sorry then for the confusion

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I thought there were gonna be human natives on the island

paper oriole
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deinonychus TI_Troll

bronze vault
paper oriole
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maybe deinonychus can heal himself in to existence on the isle first

bronze vault
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The Utah ripoff

paper oriole
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deinonychus is what utahs who afk grow should cap at in their growth lmao

meager tiger
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wait legit question can a croc heal in the water? I don't really know how blood clotting and healing wounds works in water. I guess since fish do it then a croc can? idk

paper oriole
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im like 99% sure they heal in the water

bronze vault
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It’s not every good

paper oriole
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which isnt a big deal either due to their already superb bleed resist

meager tiger
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but they come onto the bank often for warmth

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basking

bronze vault
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There is no warmth

meager tiger
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i meant irl

bronze vault
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OHHHHH

meager tiger
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Crocs have to bask for awhile

bronze vault
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Excuse my retardation

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Yes crocs do have to bask but it’s not a healing requirement

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It’s more of a temperature regulation

meager tiger
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i didn't know if crocs primarily heal during basking since that I think is there form of rest?

swift dew
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temperature isnt in the game. its just their sitting animation TI_Trollge

meager tiger
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I'm talking about irl

paper oriole
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they also need to raise their body temperate to metabolize faster i think

meager tiger
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Yeah energy

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Cold blodded animals gain energy from the sun to power themselves a bit

bronze vault
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Croc could do the same thing in a cold forest

tepid gate
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Deinosuchus heals just fine in the water. Its bleed healing is probably the best in the game anyways, you don't really need to get on land to heal up. Just stay in the water and you should be fine.

paper oriole
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Deino healing in the water isnt really an issue either imo, its just the fact that it is too good on land atm. Its ability to be so safe in the water should be countered by being absolute trash on land

limber hull
paper oriole
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Pretty much yeah

limber hull
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it fucking sucks to never get kills as deino because a huge portion of the map is designated safe zone

paper oriole
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Im hoping there are more waterways and that we get some lakes in the map rework

limber hull
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lakes are a big wish of mine, yea

paper oriole
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Shallows should mostly be limited to hard to sniff out woodland creeks

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So sort of like legacy where the dangerous water sources are the easiest to find because of scent

limber hull
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also i'd like shallows more with the addition of suchomimus as a form of shallow river hunter, making shallows a danger due to the potential of running into this brawling bastard

paper oriole
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Sort of ‘pick your poison’. Baryonix, suchomimus or deinosuchus

limber hull
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Deinos in swamps and rivers, sucho in shallows, spino in lakes as I see it. Bary... IDK enough about tbh

paper oriole
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Maybe bary can be coastal/mangroves and brackish areas

limber hull
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Spinos seem like the exact kind of dino to hang out in large lakes. TBH, spinos will probably like to be in any large body of water tbh.

paper oriole
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Spino and austro could be very flexible, able to pick and choose more freely than others

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Saltwater, brackish, freshwater, shallows, large sources

limber hull
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The issue I have is that deino is not designed for every kind of water area, and with deino as the only available aquatic, it makes it that certain water sources will end up being hard counters to deino. With the introduction of varied aquatics, we will likely end up with different risks for different areas.

paper oriole
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Well, only available aquatic for a while at least. If they still somehow plan on making the spino swim/hippiwalk. Coastals and brackish aources probably wont harm deino too much since most dinos wouldnt be able to drink from those sources well, so it would leave picking between shallows and deep sources for its competition

feral solstice
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Actually

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oh fuck I forgot to take off my pfp

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Anyways

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Back on Dondis stream, there were short glimpses of lakes

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This was captured from Dondis stream

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Funnily enough I don’t think we have “twin swamps” anymore

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So it can’t be that

paper oriole
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a new titan lake would be so damn nice

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i hope we get that

proud coral
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Is that....

Blue water and not ugly muddy water????

vale pawn
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id really want to see how semi aquatics play in large lakes

proud coral
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Like muddy water is fine, but there's gotta be variety ;-;

paper oriole
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new titan lake with a pue skeleton partially exposed on a small island TI_Perfect

vale pawn
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the last pue

proud coral
hoary dawn
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it died of cringe

paper oriole
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it died after seeing the austro and anky concepts

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he will be missed

hoary dawn
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jealousy does often lead to self harm

weak dune
# limber hull honestly, i'd like it more if it was worse on land but had far more waterways it...

Tbh I'd rather the Shallows area of the map were narrow but deep channels most jumping dinos could hop across (if barely), maybe an occasional tree bridge (1-2) along the way for non-jumpers, but just wide enough for a full adult Deino to fully submerge and maybe ambush if its lucky, and then have an occasional wide but shallow area where they have no choice but to waddle up on land for a short duration. Just wide and shallow enough dinos could still get a drink and run if Deino charges up, but without literally choking Deino off from an entire half of the map. Like some sort of flooded ravine channel or something.

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It wouldn't be a prime spot for Deino to hang out in for hunting, but at least it could get around

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Also late to the cannibal discussion but honestly, if cannibalism is punished either directly or indirectly through diet, and encouraged with Deino, then it just might actually encourage people to play more herbis instead of just having 20 megapacks of fuck off raptors, carnos, or deino constantly biting each others' faces off.

People tend to favor carni's over herbi's because there's less punishment to playing one outside of starvation than there is to playing herbi's. If the benefits of herbi start outweighing carni, then people are more likely to play them.

At the moment its more rewarding and fun to be a carnivore and most herbivores except Teno aren't in a great spot right now, but also most herbi's are also meant to be herd animals. If not enough players are playing herbi's to form a proper herd, of course they're going to suffer more.

tawny juniper
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I think people play carni because it's survival is almost alwasy dependant on pvp

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Which people like

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And they are easier to kill people with

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a lot more combat ability

limber hull
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herbi would be more fun if more herbis had cool gimmicks. Teno's library of attacks makes it really interesting for example. However, stego being "tail spam beefy boy", dryo being "run and then eventually you win" and hypsi being "could be cool but is missing like 75% of its features, and the one gimmick it has sucks dick" makes herbi less than desirable

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Pachy being mister bonecrack pushback, however, makes it sick as, since its unique mechanics are being able to fucking launch small tier predators and then leave while they are weakened

weak dune
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That as well yeah

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Stego definitely needs a bit of love from what I've been seeing, especially with a tail sweep rather than a jab

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The jab is just so weird and clunky idk why they thought to give it that but not a tail sweep

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Hypsi is at least allegedly missing some of its gimmicks mostly because they haven't designed and coded it yet, that being climbing. But the fact that it can't even use the one defense it DOES already have effectively really kills it, literally

feral solstice
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I’d rather it have a jab AND a swing

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Jab is for precise, heavy damage with bleed damage, while a swing is for less precise, moderate damage, but AOE and fracture damage.

weak dune
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Funnily enough, the exact distance you have to be to spit and hit as a hypsi is also the exact distance an adult Deino needs to bite you

limber hull
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Stego needs a gimmick beyond being a fucking wall with a clunky-ass mace attached

feral solstice
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Honestly they can probably reuse this animation

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They did the same with Utah’s V5 sniff animation

limber hull
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my primary issue is carnivores have

  • Swift predator that can choose to be stealthy or pack-hunters, depending on if they are hunting smaller or larger tier prey
  • Fastest runner in the game with hefty damage that can dominate most other creatures
  • Large pseudo-apex with an entirely unique aquatic ambush playstyle
  • A flyer. I mean, it can fly. What more do I have to say.

Each have unique gimmicks that make them fun for many kinds of people. Herbis have much weaker gimmicks or literally haven't had their gimmicks added yet

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Teno is justified and I like it, because it has the gimmick of "I can kill you in more ways than you can count, do not fucking test me" as a gimmick and that's sick as, but the others don't have these styles of engaging gimmicks

weak dune
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It also doesn't help that most of the carni's main gimmicks you can't do much against once they get you.

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Utah's pounce teleports it to the side of other dinos... though I know they've talked about fixing that. There's also as of right now no counter to being pinned.
Carno charge when it hits knocks you into a stunlock for several seconds
Deino's grab-and-drag doesn't seem to have a counter either

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The closest herbi's have to that is the Stego's tail jab doing insta-kills but its a clunky mechanic at best

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Teno does have a stun with tail slams/kicks but something has to be dumb enough to get directly behind it to get hit

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And in the case of most herbi's vs carni's, the carni gimmicks are active / offensive while the herbi's are mostly defensive, with some exception to Teno

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That's part of why it makes it kinda weird tbh that the devs want to focus so much on making Pachi's headbutt defensive

paper oriole
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Tail jab doesnt even oneshot carnos unless it headshots them to does it, and it loses the trade with an alt biting deino

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And its true herbis dont get shit for niches, they are neglected and the devs dont seem interested in remedying that, at least in the foreseeable future.
Carnis have cool ass strains to look forward to, they dominate the sky and the water, their juvie stages are funner, they are faster, they can walk while sniffing, they get venom, mimicry and nightvision, they can all stealth walk, and I've heard they will face less punishment with diets. Herbis get jack shit

limber hull
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That's very true. Strains are, imo, the worst part of this, as not only does it soley favour carnis, but only the select carnis that even GET strains

paper oriole
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Like what will the other dinos get to make up for that? Probably nothing

limber hull
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Herbis imo having harder diets does actually add more engagement to their playstyle, having to migrate to locate necessary foodsources is better imo than sniffing and finding like 50 fucking plants

paper oriole
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Having to stop more often to sniff out plants in specific locations the game forces me to go to in order to avoid punishment doesnt sound engaging to me but maybe theyll make it good idk, im not keeping my hopes up

limber hull
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If strains were specifically reserved for apexes, I'd be fine tbh, but I think herbi apexes should also be let in on some of the fun. A hypo stego could easily work (not too sure about the other two, but you could make more herbi-focused strains in that regard). Dislike the idea of carnos, utahs and other relatively faster and easier grows the power of a strain

paper oriole
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It just sounds like making things more tedious to find a remodel of generic berry bush for the most part. And it seems like the dev favourites get strains or something, thats why utah randomly has one

limber hull
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Also nocturnal herbis not existing seems weird to me. One could easily make a burrower part nocturnal, hiding in a burrow during the day and moving in the night to gain access to food while most competition sleeps.

weak dune
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Herbi's don't get strains? That's lame af

paper oriole
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There could easily be an herbivore flyer and nocturnal herbivores, there are also a few semiaquatic options they could use but probably wont because they threw one bottom tier animal for herbi semiaquatics in

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Yeah herbis get nothing at all lmao

limber hull
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As far as we know, there has never been any strain confirmation for herbis

weak dune
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Lame

paper oriole
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Pretty sure at least one dev said there wont be any herbi strains, not just “no confirmation” but even worse than that

limber hull
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Herbis really do need something tho imo

paper oriole
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Plants, fucking plants are getting strains but herbis get nothing

limber hull
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what

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wdym

paper oriole
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The strain plants

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Like the big ass tree

limber hull
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where

paper oriole
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One sec imma find it

limber hull
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also you'd think eating a strain plant, as a herbi, would do strain shit to your dumb herbi body and mind. Stego see plant, eat plant, big boy.

weak dune
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Its pretty dumb too because there are a lot of herbi dinos with some wicked af weaponry that carni's SHOULD be afraid of

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Stego and Kentro come to mind, if I'm remembering the name right

limber hull
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Imagine how fucking sick a hypo stego would be lets be real

weak dune
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Anky as well

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Seriously tho

paper oriole
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Big ass strain tree

weak dune
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Honestly I wouldn't mind seeing strains in some of the smaller dinos that need a bit of love too

limber hull
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what is its purpose

paper oriole
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Idk apparently the plants kill you

weak dune
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I doubt it'll happen tho

paper oriole
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And “take away things you didnt know you had”

limber hull
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eh, my issue is making strains is going to be very fucking weird, since only a few dinos can really GET strains due to the difficulty of making so many fucking models for each strain dino

paper oriole
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Ugh imagine how badass a tisso kentro would look. we'll never see the badass herbi weaponry taken advantage of because “muh cool theropod” TI_Succ

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If hypers were reserved for carnis, tissos and neuros were neutral and there was another strain reserved for herbis related to the plants or some shit it would be fine

limber hull
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idk man, i'm all for hyper steg

weak dune
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I mean if we're not getting strains* I hope we're at least going to get some sort of herbi-favoring buffs to regular dinos. Especially the ones that need it most, like Hypsi

limber hull
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motherfucker walks around and just destroys the entire local plantlife

paper oriole
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Hyper herbis with a craving for flesh TI_Troll

weak dune
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lol

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Honestly, looking at real life animals, it doesn't entirely make sense from a realism standpoint that some herbi's aren't, at the very least, meat scavengers

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Meat and bone rather

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Lots of deer eat small animals, carrion, and bones for calcium to grow their horns

paper oriole
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It may be for balance reasons, like to give less excuses for griefing

weak dune
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Just saying, some spiky motherfucker dino might follow suit

paper oriole
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It would be cool if some smaller ceratopsian at least would munch on a carcass from time to time

feral solstice
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Though

paper oriole
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Maybe diablo or ava

feral solstice
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Luckily

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Stego is getting a healthpool increase by the next update

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(Hopefully to 6K>

paper oriole
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I wish it would get a less shitty attack too

feral solstice
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Though it may be a small step, atleast it’s changing

feral solstice
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And also make it one shot carnos through the body pls or lower carnos hp

paper oriole
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It really is stupid that it doesnt oneshot carnos with a body shot

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Carno can avoid stego effortlessly it has no reason to be tanking hits from one

weak dune
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Most dinos we have right now in general shouldn't be tanking hits from anything bigger than it tbh

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Honestly give Stego the ability to tail-swipe and body smaller dinos it would be in a much better spot

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Its a big dino, it should be able to throw its weight around

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literally

hoary dawn
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make stego's wallow anim cause fracture to things standing in the way of the flop

weak dune
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lmao

paper oriole
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Since utah's voluntary dismount is getting fixed, they should let big dinos like stego crush pouncing utahs against trees and rocks too

weak dune
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Depending on how well its fixed, ya, 100% agree

paper oriole
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Like just smear them against a rock

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Make their own little paintings

weak dune
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pfft

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It'd also help if dinos running at full speed would body smaller dinos instead of the weird thing we have now where a baby utah can just stop a fully grown carno or other things in their tracks

paper oriole
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I think trample is planned to eventually come thankfully

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Animals like maia and para would make great use of it

feral solstice
paper oriole
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Imagine stego squishes something real small like a juvie homa while wallowing and it gets up with the corpse just stuck to its side until the mud effect wears off lmao

hoary dawn
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literal meat shield

feral solstice
paper oriole
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Lmao yes

pale bloom
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Are yall seriously saying Stego should 1 shot a Carno on body hits? TI_Wheeze

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It's Stupidly easy to land hits on a Carno

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And taking away 2 hours of grow on a body hit when it actually does over 50% of hp damage already its dumb, you hit a Carno once and it has to leave the fight

sacred moat
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Imagine if stego knocked carno over on body shots

feral solstice
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If you go after it and get hit, you deserve to be insta killed

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Stego is a pseudo apex for a reason

hasty dagger
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Carno has no business going anywhere near a Stego, it’s entirely it’s fault for engaging it and deserves to get one tapped if it does.

brittle sail
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you guys want stego stab to do almost 2k damage?

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That seems a bit extreme

azure wadi
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One tapped is a bit much in my opinion but in the future I believe that carno shouldn’t be capable of even taking down an adult stego

brittle sail
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especially on a body shot

hasty dagger
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Even if not a body shot, it’s absurd that Carno can tank a thagomizer to the head right now.

brittle sail
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Yeah, I'm all for the endgame of balance to place adult stegos way out of carno's reach - but with only 2 land carnivores in the game I feel like excluding 50% of them from being able to tussle with the big herbivore will get real boring for stego players

azure wadi
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I mean, I agree with stego one shooting carno in the head in the future but for now I think it’s fine that a carno GROUP can handle a stego as we need predators for stego

hasty dagger
brittle sail
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Yeah, certainly fine for now

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They had the mechanics/anims done because it was going to be added as AI

azure wadi
brittle sail
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but they couldn't get the AI part right so they just gave it as a playable

hasty dagger
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I hope they never do that again because Stegos situation right now sucks TI_Trollge

azure wadi
hasty dagger
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I love having apex predators and herbivores in an ecosystem made up of mostly smalls TI_Perfect TI_Trollge

azure wadi
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Mind set of krill

pale bloom
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That's anything but a balanced game

feral solstice
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Because it’s an apex herbivore? Lol
It makes no sense that an apex can’t one shot a pseudo mid lol

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And what balance would this throw off?

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Other then pushing carnos away from stegos more?

pale bloom
feral solstice
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I think a lot of people want stego to one shot Carno my friend

pale bloom
feral solstice
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Pseudo mid tiers shouldn’t even be attacking pseudo apexes in the first place. Serves them right for being one shotted.

feral solstice
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It’s getting a better dismount

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And a farther one at that

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Stego isn’t going to be immortal lol

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Plus Carno is a small game hunter not a large game hunter

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Which is why it shouldn’t even be antagonizing a stego

pale bloom
feral solstice
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You get jabbed it’s your fault. You lose your Dino. You had the option to disengage

feral solstice
weak dune
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Honestly I think Stego being more formidable would be better for having a Stego-Deino matchup because currently a full adult Deino ain't afraid of jack or shit except another Deino

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It takes almost no risks attacking anything else

pale bloom
feral solstice
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Carno being unable to hunt stego moment

pale bloom
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In a future with a bigger roster we can think on it, but not now, it's just dumb

weak dune
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Carno has just about everything else to choose from other than adult Deino though

feral solstice
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There’s a ton of reasons to make stego one shot Carno, especially over the fact Carno shouldn’t even be hunting or attacking it lol
Like I said, your fault for attacking. You could’ve disengaged.
And saying stego would be immortal is a big overstatement when Utah’s pounce is being fixed, giving it the option to totally fuck up stego again.

weak dune
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Hypsi, dryo, utah, baby deino, baby carno, and teno if they actually know how to fight

feral solstice
weak dune
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Its not like it doesn't have options

feral solstice
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Don’t understand why you’d go for a big game when you specialize in small game hunting

weak dune
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Stego players are already so rare idk why its even an argument because its not like stego is Carno's main source of food anyway

pale bloom
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Stego needs a reason to be worried about on land, Deinos is not a good reason because you can just fuck off from water

feral solstice
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But it going to have a reason?

weak dune
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All dinos gotta drink lol

feral solstice
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Utah’s packs exist. They specialize in larger game hunting

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when dismount is fixed

pale bloom
feral solstice
weak dune
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Literally all dinos can do that though

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Its not unique

feral solstice
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^

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You say stego should have something to fear. Well there’s Deino, other stegos (competition), and Utah.

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A dinosaur specializing in small game hunting shouldn’t even be THREATENING a pseudo apex-apex

weak dune
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Also both Utah and Carno form megapacks so saying "well they should have something to fear", they already do

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1 Stego against 20 utahs and carnos is hardly anywhere close to balanced or fair

feral solstice
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Thank god diets are going to be a thing

pale bloom
feral solstice
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That’ll be one way to drain the world of all its food

weak dune
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I'm not a Stego main but go off I guess

feral solstice
pale bloom
feral solstice
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Do you not know diets will be a thing?

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Competition for food

weak dune
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Depends on how diets function and affect species population

feral solstice
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If you fuck with other stegos they will fight or kill for food

pale bloom
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Because that fucking thing never happens my dude even with diets coming next update

weak dune
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Hell I've had Stegos kill me as a Hypsi even though I didn't do anything to them. Again, you're assuming a lot

feral solstice
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You can’t be so sure that it won’t happen. Especially since diets willencourage competition

weak dune
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Carno is a small game hunter

feral solstice
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Stego gang wars for food will probably happen, especially if people want to fulfill their diet

weak dune
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Does a stego look like small game to you?

feral solstice
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Lmfao

pale bloom
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The only time I've seen Stegos killing another one is mixpack shit to feed Deinos

feral solstice
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So current game

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Not update 4

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Got it

weak dune
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But you HAVE seen it

pale bloom
feral solstice
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Exactly

weak dune
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Irrelevent. Its in the game.

feral solstice
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So don’t let Carno antagonize stego by making stego one shot it

pale bloom
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And what you're asking for is a broken animal just like Deino is

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1 shooting everything on land but Deinos

feral solstice
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It’s not really broken if it’s balanced the way it’s supposed to LOL

weak dune
#

Carno, a small game hunter, shouldn't be hunting big game that could realistically wreck its shit

pale bloom
feral solstice
weak dune
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Unless its REALLY desperate

feral solstice
#

They can add more and more predators as time goes on

pale bloom
feral solstice
#

Atleast then it would be properly lined up instead of learning the hard way

feral solstice
weak dune
feral solstice
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Lol

weak dune
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Still gives it 5-6 other options

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Actually yeah, 6 options once Pachi is in

pale bloom
# feral solstice Okay and

The argument of "This creature should be hunting this and this, it's stupid when the roster is so limited"

feral solstice
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Which is lining them up how they’re supposed to?

#

Carno is meant to be a small game hunter. Line it up how it’s supposed to instead of redirecting its entire role

pale bloom
weak dune
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I mean it shouldn't be hunting food outside its survival niche unless its desperate to eat period

feral solstice
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You say it would make the game more unbalanced but leaving it this way currently makes it much more unbalanced LOL

weak dune
#

Just because you want Carno to basically be an Evrima rex or something doesn't mean its an Evrima rex. Its a carno. Its supposed to hunt things smaller than it

pale bloom
weak dune
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They SHOULD have a hard time killing stego

feral solstice
#

Literally making stego one shot a carno wouldn’t throw off the balance whatsoever

pale bloom
pale bloom
feral solstice
#

explain

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Cause I doubt it would

weak dune
#

Guess I should be able to hunt down and kill Utahs as a hypsi now because how dare Utah not be afraid of something smaller than it that was never meant to hunt it down

pale bloom
#

Your Stego got swarmed by 5 Carnos and they can't do shit to hunt you because you can just left click them all to death, because as you should know it's stupidly easy to land hits on a dinosaur that turns like a truck and drifts everytime it tries to get away

weak dune
#

Its almost like Carno wasn't designed to hunt Stego

feral solstice
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Carnos shouldn’t even be hunting them

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Why do you insist on carnos hunting a stego

past dune
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EDIBLE FLOWER SNACCS

weak dune
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Because they're mad they can't just decimate everything below Deino I guess

pale bloom
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I don't fucking care because what is supposed to hunt Stego it isn't even in the game

feral solstice
#

Ahem

weak dune
#

Utah is

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lol

feral solstice
#

Watch this

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UTAH

past dune
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utahs you mean

feral solstice
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Utah’s yes

pale bloom
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Pack of Utahs**

feral solstice
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Yeah well Utah is still its species

weak dune
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Which is how Utah is supposed to be played

feral solstice
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Of course I mean packs

weak dune
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In a pack

pale bloom
#

Which means basically your playable it's safe 90% of the time

weak dune
#

I guess I must have imagined the overpopulation of utahs all this time

feral solstice
#

What makes you think it’ll be safe 90% of the time

pale bloom
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That Stego will have better survavility than a Dryo

weak dune
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Because they broke Dryo's speed

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Stego is the slowest dino we have right now

pale bloom
feral solstice
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Well it is a bulky apex designed to defend itself. It’s designed to survive.

weak dune
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Its slow and its main defense is DEFENSE. Which is why it has giant effing spikes on its tail

feral solstice
weak dune
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You're basically complaining that the playables aren't filling niches they aren't supposed to fill by design

pale bloom
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Designed to survive on Evrima which is supposed to be based on small game, yeah that's what I would call a broken playable

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And yall aren't even considering Stego groups

feral solstice
#

Who said it’s based on small game?

pale bloom
weak dune
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Recently said*

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It wasn't said when they started Evrima

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Development plans change

feral solstice
#

I don’t remember them saying it’s small game focused

pale bloom
feral solstice
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If anything

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Go after multiple targets

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Bleed them out

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See which one goes down first

pale bloom
feral solstice
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This has always been update 4

pale bloom
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Update 4 is not even out, there's a lot of things to test first

feral solstice
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No shit

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I know that aswell

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I’m still doubting what you’re saying though cause it looks just fine

pale bloom
#

Even so, at this point I think even Carni Apexes are added Stego players will ask to 1 shoot Rexes as well TI_Wheeze

feral solstice
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Uh

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What the fuck are you saying now

weak dune
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That's neither here nor there

feral solstice
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I’m pretty sure people will ask to deal severe damage to apexes, not 1 shot them.

#

like we said, it’s a defensive herbivore

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You fuck with it, it’s not going down without a fight

pale bloom
#

Im thinking twice what yall asking and sounds like some salty shit "Oh I got killed by Carnos they should die in 1 shoot"

weak dune
#

Pot kettle black

feral solstice
#

See, you have no way to make an argument that you decide to take random shit out of your ass to “hopefully” make a good argument

pale bloom
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I'm gonna repeat this just in case, Carno takes 2 hours and 15 mins to grow, why it should 1 shoot it?

feral solstice
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Please stfu

feral solstice
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Woopty do

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Don’t fuck with a. Stego

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And you’re fine

pale bloom
feral solstice
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Why is this so hard to understand

pale bloom
weak dune
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  1. Because Adult Stego takes 5+ hours to grow
  2. Becuase Stego is bigger and literally has giant fuck off tail spikes that could go through a Carno's whole ass body
  3. Because Carno isn't supposed to be hunting Big Game to begin with. Its a small game hunter
feral solstice
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Yeah you’re still trying to pull shit outta your ass

pale bloom
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Don't fuck with my bush eater or I'll just left click you

hasty dagger
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Yes

pale bloom
#

Actually Right click

weak dune
#

Except that's exactly how Stego should be regarded lol

hasty dagger
#

^

feral solstice
#

And you’re still ignoring the fact Carno is a small game hunter..

pale bloom
#

BaLanCeD

feral solstice
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It is

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Thanks

weak dune
#

If you want balance, go play a browser game

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LittleBigSnake is free

feral solstice
#

Oh no, a stego that can one shot me is running after me. “Well bazinga, lemme just run away” problem solved

weak dune
#

fr tho

feral solstice
#

You act like stego is the fastest Dino in the game kek

pale bloom
#

Guess I'll play Stego and call myself a skilled survival player when that happens

weak dune
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Unless you're literally about to die to starvation, idk why you'd be taking on a stego

#

As a small game hunter

hasty dagger
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There is no reason a carno should ever die to a Stego, and if it does get one shotted like it should, that’s natural selection at work

feral solstice
#

Well if you’re patient with your attacks, you’re kinda skilled

weak dune
feral solstice
#

especially when more predators are added. It gets more skillful

pale bloom
feral solstice
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Do you not realize that having patience is a skill

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Holy shit

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No wonder

weak dune
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Argues the person who can't comprehend that Carno is a small game hunter by design as stated directly by the devs

feral solstice
pale bloom
weak dune
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Sounds like a personal problem

feral solstice
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Lmao

pale bloom
feral solstice
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Yeah sure

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King

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Go cry that your lovely Carno fetish is unable to support the ability to take down a brute mother fucker that’s way out of your league 😁

weak dune
feral solstice
#

Anyways, Kudos. I believe we won this argument

pale bloom
#

Donne discussing shit with people who doesn't seem to understand that the state of the game is early as fuck and they just want everything to be feed in a spoon like babies

feral solstice
#

You still got any more ridiculous points?

pale bloom
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Crybaby noises: PLEASE NERF CARNOS THEY'RE FAST

weak dune
#

We get it, you're big mad a stego killed your carno

feral solstice
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Poor guy probably got bit to death lmfao

pale bloom
feral solstice
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Sure

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Go rub off somewhere else

pale bloom
hasty dagger
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You have like, an entire growth cycle of vulnerability and a predator that can still kill you as an adult with more on the way, I don’t get how it’s unbalanced

feral solstice
#

Calls someone a kid 👍

Doesn’t realize he’s acting more like a child than an adult 👍

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Yeah sure

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Keep going and maybe I’ll praise your Carno fetish some more

pale bloom
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Omg you're annoying can you just shut your ass and go play bush eater simulator?

feral solstice
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No thanks

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😁

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Anyways since this guy pretty much threw off this entire discussions meaning.. I’m heading off to bed. Goodnight

weak dune
#

I mean no one is forcing anyone here to talk to anyone else

bleak atlas
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@pliant hearth than play on unofficial no ai server, when they come

compact hare
#

@long dirge You mean grab using what?

azure wadi
#

I’m waiting for them to say feet

long dirge
azure wadi
#

Definitely not their feet

long dirge
#

like how they did in the jw movie

long dirge
azure wadi
#

Have you seen pterosaur feet, it’d be like you trying to carry something with your feet

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They have flat feet with minimal muscles, for walking only

long dirge
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but what about with there beak? they could hold small dinos

azure wadi
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Depends on the pterosaur but there’s nothing small enough besides a compy for ptera to carry

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These things were SUPER limited in what they could carry in their beaks and a live struggling dinosaur, likely isn’t one of them

long dirge
azure wadi
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Quetz functions like a very front heavy airplane, probably would crash if what ever is in its beak struggles

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Carrying live prey is a no go

long dirge
#

mhmm

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alright

compact hare
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Could see it pecking up a compy or a very small hatchling/juvie

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And dive bombing thigs would break it in half

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Its a giant fly, very fragile

quetzconcept.jpg
azure wadi
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Quetz is basically a giant vulture, he’ll scavenge off of carcasses or bully smalls and Magy but won’t mess with anything close to its size

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I hope our quetz gets a fluffy skin, same with ptera

compact hare
#

Pycno maned quetz TI_HypsiPlead

azure wadi
#

Maybe some day Maci, maybe some day

odd sedge
limber hull
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I'd make galli what dryo is personally

odd sedge
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Galli can gladly be stronger than dryo but should not be as much faster than Utah, else legacy would happen all over again.
Perhaps make them equal speeds so you gotta be smart to catch Gallis and Gallis gotta be smart on how to escape

limber hull
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galli is biologically VERY fast

glass mulch
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I mean, built like an ostrich but with a tail to balance weight

#

and for better muscle attachement I think...

azure wadi
#

@alpine wyvern you do realize that tribals are monsters that eat people by default in the isle right

tribal oar
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whats yalls issue with cannibalism btw? just askin because id like to understand your view on it

paper oriole
#

There is 0 problem with galli being faster than utah, not all herbivores should be slower than all their main predators. Carnis get the best of everything and it's pretty irritating

#

Also cannibalism is only an issue because there are so few species rn and 90% of people are playing on carni with 3 (ptera honestly doesnt count) species

tribal oar
#

well less species also mean less prey right

paper oriole
#

Honestly cannibalism shouldnt even be harshly punished when diets come imo, only if it is frequent. Herbis will continue to be the minority so predators will continue to eat each other

night ruin
# azure wadi Quetz is basically a giant vulture, he’ll scavenge off of carcasses or bully sma...

I think you guys are underestimating how deadly quetz could be in combat if it's fast on the ground and has good reach with it's beak attack- it's basically a 2-3 meter long spear attached to a 3-4 meter long neck, that could translate to some seriously beefy damage against mid-tiers and possible oneshot small tiers by impaling them. I see Quetz in it's optimal balance stage being a glass cannon- it's extremely mobile both on the ground and in the air, has massive damage potential, but can't take a hit to save it's life

limber hull
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Galli should be one of, if not THE, fastest land animals. Galli in nature was known to be almost entirely reliant on its speed.

tribal oar
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i dont mind visual changess or infetility with cannibalism but actual combat debuffs seem a bit much

paper oriole
#

Galli should be between utah and carno in speed, more towards carno. Fastest of the faction

#

Suck of being slower than my predators

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I want to be fast

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And dryo is just a fake galli rn

tribal oar
#

also what will ceras place in the game be? being smaller than the carno and definetly slower

paper oriole
#

Cera is defensive and probably a brawler

barren zephyr
#

I think cera got an upsize, no?

tribal oar
barren zephyr
#

The isle btw

tribal oar
#

yes

night ruin
tribal oar
#

but isnt realism important to them?

limber hull
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Brawler. It will have a much higher turn radius, swim speed and a primary focus on standing its ground against equal sized or larger creatures. Once it has a kill, it will be difficult to scare it away

barren zephyr
#

not really no

#

Realism is subjective

paper oriole
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He'll be able to cannivalize without punishment, swim faster than other terrestrials for escape judging by his concept, and be able to eat unfavorable things like rotten meat

limber hull
#

Small animals do not necessarily mean weak animals

barren zephyr
#

Pitbulls are smaller than us, yet could maul us to death in a heartbeat

paper oriole
#

Cerato probably gets a better bite than carno as well

night ruin
#

I'm more worried about cerato's matchup against allo than carno.

tribal oar
#

well swimming will be interesting with deinos in the game

limber hull
tribal oar
paper oriole
tribal oar
#

pitbulls can maul us because we have deevolved from fighting

paper oriole
#

Carno isnt supposed to brawl

tribal oar
#

put a trained professional on it and he will snap its neck i assume

paper oriole
#

So you could say he is ‘devolved’ from fighting somewhat as well

#

He is an ambush hunter

tribal oar
#

yes chimps have stronger muscles than us they will break all our bones

barren zephyr
tribal oar
#

i mean meh

#

if you follow the steps correctly youll survive a gorilla

paper oriole
#

Id rather run into a gorilla or orangutan than a chimp lol

tribal oar
#

but if you just look at it it might kill youj

limber hull
barren zephyr
#

Chimps are quite literally insane

paper oriole
#

Chimps are all the worst human qualities put together basically

tribal oar
#

chimps cant controll their muscles they can just use full force or no force

paper oriole
#

They can go from 0 to 100 in an instant

night ruin
#

imagine if one of the ambient animals in the isle were chimps

tribal oar
#

too small

#

even an utah would probably kill a chimp

limber hull
#

Gigantopithicus but with chimp tendencies

tribal oar
#

woujld be funny

limber hull
#

lmao

night ruin
#

Not really? We're getting goats which are in the same size range as chimps

#

Unless these goats are utterly massive

paper oriole
#

Dinopithecus TI_Troll

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Baboons are batshit crazy too

tribal oar
#

theyll just run away

paper oriole
#

Goats are literally there to be fodder

tribal oar
#

and adding chimp AI that just runs away would be kinda sad ngl

paper oriole
#

It could be fun for herrera but it would feel kinda out of place

night ruin
#

one chimp can't fight a dinosaur. But a whole troop of chimps could probably be a hell of a hassle and even very deadly for juvies/low tiers

tribal oar
#

if i see a chimp in the game i want to see it snap utahs jaw like king kong to those rexes

barren zephyr
#

Yeah that would never happen lol

tribal oar
#

wouldnt make sense

barren zephyr
#

Utah is massive

limber hull
#

HYPO CHIMP HYPO CHIMP

tribal oar
#

but would make me happy

barren zephyr
#

it would be cool yeah

paper oriole
#

Hyper chimp = cannibals TI_Troll

limber hull
#

THE PURE UNGODLY FEAR OF FACING OFF AGAINST THE MIGHTY HYPO CHIMP. ALL THE RAGE OF A CHIMP WITH THE HUNGER OF A HYPO

tribal oar
#

imagine your a mercenary getting chased by an utah and a chimp jumps down from the trees und pulls of that king kong shit, ripping his jaw in 2

night ruin
#

now that's what I would call a random chimp event

tribal oar
#

awesome monke moment

odd sedge
#

Recording feature?
Yes

Global chat?
Hell nah

paper oriole
#

Global chat for sandbox servers = yes please

Global chat for survival = No.

odd sedge
#

^
Sandbox and deathmatch is fine

#

Survival not

#

Idk what some people think, but causally chatting with my neighbour carnivore like we live in perfect harmony does not feel very survival horror to me

paper oriole
#

The only thing ill miss about survival global chat is the salt when somebody dies and comes back to bitch about it

#

All the “rulebreaker!!!!1!!” Stuff was hilarious too

odd sedge
#

Rex players after a utah ate their ass to death

paper oriole
#

“We have a body!!!! Carno stop!!!! Body down!!!” It was hilarious seeing that in global

odd sedge
#

The only thing global was good for was for nesting

paper oriole
#

The nesting invites were pretty cringe though lol

#

I think nesting adverts can be replaced with an independent log list

odd sedge
#

It was cringe but it was a necessity

#

If you just implement a list, where you can chose current, available eggs, then it would be so much better

paper oriole
#

Like people can make their nests public or put it up for invite requests in a log similar to the player list, maybe if genes are still planned it can show some info on the parents like skins and perks to help people choose

odd sedge
#

And perhaps how big the pack/group is beforehand

paper oriole
#

Like i dont want to be nested by two poop brown utahs that cant let me make/get a preferable skin of my own

#

So i could see beforehand in the nest log

#

Would also help reduce nest hopping

odd sedge
#

Maybe give the list a cool down

paper oriole
#

That as well yeah

#

Similar to the regional respawn cd

odd sedge
#

Like you can't chose an egg after you have just chose one. Makes egg hopping impossible

sacred moat
#

Honestly I’ll miss people screaming admin because they desperately want their Dino back

swift dew
#

@alpine wyvern you don't know what tribals are either, ill give you a link

#

their ENTIRE thing is being cannibalistic

#

their other name is literally the "cannibals"

alpine wyvern
#

Well then I'm satisfied

hoary dawn
#

i doubt they'd hold a community trailer contest since they've hired a dedicated video editor specifically for trailers

urban flax
#

I was thinking the same thing

odd sedge
lavish quail
#

Jesus why does everyone hate global so much

compact hare
#

just depends which kind of server you have

hoary dawn
#

its terrible for a survival gamemode

swift dew
#

its not terrible for something like minecraft, which isn't a hardcore game

#

but yes, same point

hoary dawn
#

a more pvp focused survival gamemode

hasty dagger
#

Looks like off brand tribals

feral solstice
#

Global should only come back for sandbox, not the survival gamemode

jade schooner
#

@rugged quarry we already got tribals/cannibals and the eyeless/nameless

rugged quarry
#

Me want more 😠

ashen wasp
#

Dinosauroids basically ARE Tribals, just not

#

But also ew, dinosauroids

paper oriole
#

They look like some desecrated Kermit the frog

steep warren
feral solstice
meager tiger
#

Lizard people from Land of the Lost

paper oriole
#

why would troodon venom mess with chat and name tags? sounds like something dilo venom would do

sacred moat
#

Troodon venom looks like it would make your Dino throw up

#

I do hope they add venom limits to these dinos

#

Like how snakes have venom sacs

#

So should dilo and Rodin

paper oriole
#

if troodon venom affects chat at all it should only be reducing the radius of your chat due to weakened breaths

#

troodon venom looks like it will make your dino nauseus and exhausted just from the looks of it

sacred moat
#

Right

#

Like when our dinos throw up

#

And it drains our stats

#

Ngl troodon might be the best pack hunter in the game

#

Bleed, venom, and I’m assuming it’ll have amazing night vision

hoary dawn
#

i am also confused by filipe's comments about mods, seems he's been having a lot of hot takes recently

hasty dagger
#

Omni Quetz PogBlue TI_Troll

flat crypt
#

All I'll say on it is that time and time again we see the pros for mods far outweigh any negatives. They greatly increase the longevity of a game, foster creativity and a closer sense of community, and can be what turns a decent game into a fantastic one. You can have a great game without mods, don't get me wrong there. But mods are an important part of the gaming community, and have been since the very start

vale pawn
hoary dawn
#

do not

weak dune
#

@long lance If you mean in Evrima, there is no Spino yet

long lance
#

damn how come?

#

im gonna be getting the isle for steam soon

#

i wont be able to get the spino?

weak dune
#

There's Spino on Legacy servers, usually Sandbox mode, but not Evrima servers

#

The two are currently separate games, technically speaking

#

Just using the same library

icy lion
#

spino will be added in the future

#

spino is also only available in sandbox mode on legacy, not in survival

long lance
#

wait ait

#

so the isle has two games

icy lion
#

one game, 2 versions

#

you get the new version, evrima, available as a free beta branch

long lance
#

oh

weak dune
#

It has the "original" Isle which is Legacy, which has different systems and dino roster, and Evrima which is Isle 2.0 still in development

long lance
#

whitch one do i get

weak dune
#

But yeah you get both, you just can't join a Legacy server with Evrima version and vica versa

long lance
#

or do i end up getting both?

weak dune
#

You get both from the same store page

long lance
#

kk

#

and one is free, one is 23

#

lmao

icy lion
#

no, you still have to own legacy

long lance
#

yeah yeah

icy lion
#

its just that evrima is free for people who own the isle

long lance
#

so is the spino gonna be added to legacy

#

?

weak dune
#

Already in

#

in Legacy

long lance
#

in survival ;-;

#

i mean

weak dune
#

Legacy is Original Isle, Evrima is the remake

#

No, just sandbox. Sandbox isn't that different from survival though

long lance
#

how?

weak dune
#

Sandbox gives more dino options and you start as sub-adult if I remember correctly. But other than that, and having a global chat instead of species-only, nothing is really different

long lance
#

adn do you recommmend i play the normal, or the remake?

#

like as a main in a way

weak dune
#

You should automatically be able to join Legacy servers when you get the Isle. Evrima you have to opt in through settings.

#

Depends on your preference really

#

If you want to play Spino, definitely Legacy

#

As far as I know, Legacy is also not as hard on lower end computers

long lance
#

and can i get some ionfo on hypos

#

info

weak dune
#

Sadly I am not the person to ask about that, but Hypos are usually specials that you have to get through server admin grants and such. They're not part of the regular roster even on sandbox

icy lion
#

theyll eventually be added, likely as part of the diets and elders system based on hints we got on the roadmap https://trello.com/b/G5tsb4XI/public-roadmap

Trello

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long lance
#

alrightg

#

thanks for the info guys!

weak dune
#

Np

feral solstice
#

The damage tick is actually your health increasing

#

So is the bleed

#

It’s just wonky for some reason

#

@honest sparrow

#

Also

#

You have to hold 2 call to invite

honest sparrow
#

it sucks that I think I literally take damage and bleed

feral solstice
#

Yeah hoping that’s fixed within the next hotfix

icy lion
#

same with health

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blood and health are registered as pecentages

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so when your maximum pool grows, and your current value doesnt, it appears as if youve taken damage

barren zephyr
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@charred grove restart your PC/Laptop

charred grove
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Trying to..

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Have had to hard reset my PC. My entire computer broke down and nothing worked. What did you guys do???

weak dune
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Just gonna say that we probably shouldn't be expecting everything to work perfect not even 2 hours into a new patch drop. Things are just gonna be broken today while they iron out the wrinkles.

tawdry crow
dapper mirage
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@misty forum you’re not alone there, my framerate has tanked pretty darn badly this update. And I don’t have a bad computer, either. I can run most things just fine, but after this update I’m struggling to run the game above 60fps at all

misty forum
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@dapper mirage yeah its really really bad!!! when above the open grass lands its so bad i need to stop flying... i hope this is a quik fix

weak dune
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Bah I can't post in the main feedback channel yet

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I'll do a proper post later maybe but I feel the water scent particles need to be a few shades lighter

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The ones for food are both very in-your-face but the water particles are a bit difficult to see, and basically invisible if you use nightlight mode

barren zephyr
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@steep sparrow what do you suggest then?

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ah, I see

wooden agate
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i like how theres just a random rex.

barren zephyr
wooden agate
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i see a smudge, like something done got stomped

barren zephyr
wooden agate
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oh that makes sense

barren zephyr
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@steep sparrow two things. Minmi is based off it's very similar cousin Kunbarrasaurus, another Australian ankylosaurid- to which the photo you sent it a Kunbarra.

Minmi also doesn't need to be pure attack and defence based, like it's larger relatives.
Minmi has dig and water (long breath)
it being able to hide itself from predators in a hole or it's burrow

wraith ibex
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I agree with @violet magnet, I don't like the sound of this restrictive future, it'll just cause people to go to other games that have no modding restrictions, like PoT

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It's a horrible plan to restrict mods.

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And if the devs have any sense, they won't restrict them

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Yeah certain mods in the past were bad (The mod that added hypo Spino and Rex to be playable again being one)

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But so many players have so many fond memories of modded servers

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Primordial Tyrants, Rogue Realism, Pangaea Survival

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Just to name a few

rugged shore
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Mods are bleh

wraith ibex
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How so?

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Did you ever experience them?

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Any stat mods that improved gameplay

rugged shore
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In the isle no . But I've seen the crap they do to other games

wraith ibex
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Yeah, but those games aren't dead

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If they make modding so restricted there's no point

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The Isle Will die

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People will move to PoT or BoB

barren zephyr
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ok

rugged shore
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If the mod is a quality of life kind of thing to ( make the game better) devs could consider implementing their own version

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Or use the mods creator

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Just allowing it because " reasons " is a pandoras box kinda thing

barren zephyr
wraith ibex
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I realize

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But the way Filipe described it

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There's no point

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At least how I see it

flat crypt
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I wouldn't necessarily say the isle would die without modding. But I think they would be necessarily restricting themselves by placing heavy restrictions on mods. Modding is a great way of attracting a larger playerbase, and keeping that same playerbase engaged for longer

barren zephyr
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MODs are going to be filtered by us, won´t be a do any shit and add to the game

flat crypt
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I think it's pretty important in this day and age for devs to try and foster a good relationship with modders

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and vice versa

wraith ibex
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Look at Garry's mod

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Look at it

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It's survived for so damn long because of modding

flat crypt
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man how old is gmod now lmao

wraith ibex
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I have no clue

barren zephyr
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it's because Gmod has nothing to do

wraith ibex
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They're still pushing out updates so..

barren zephyr
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to help Modders and bugs

flat crypt
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I think a better comparison would be skyrim. Gmod was already a sandbox game, which skyrim (and TI) are not

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Skyrim already had a solid base game, which was made a lot more popular and a lot longer-lived thanks to modding

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Plus, the existence of mods doesn't make the base skyrim experience poor. That's still it's own thing, with it's own value

violet magnet
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with all this talk from devs about only having a certain roster of animals per official server, and "you can play the other animals in sandbox or another game mode", someone is going to make a mod that throws all of the playables together in the same server, which will also necessitate rebalancing all of them to be able to coexist without any one dino being basically fodder or any one dino being super OP

will that mod be approved?

flat crypt
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minecraft is a decent comparison too, though that is also a sandbox game

barren zephyr
violet magnet
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even unofficials

barren zephyr
violet magnet
barren zephyr
violet magnet
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my concern right now is that the dinos are being balanced around how they'll interact with other dinos that they're designated to exist alongside (devs have said that all the playables aren't going to all be in the "official survival experience"), which will result in some dinos being OP against others in a sandbox setting because those two dinos were never balanced against each other

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i mean i hope this isn't gonna be the case, and i really hope that server owners will be able to change stats without having to have a devkit

wraith ibex
violet magnet
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and as we all know everyone always follows server rules TI_DeinoOWO

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@steep sparrow good thing this is a heavily fictionalized videogame in which they can stray from reality and have things like an arboreal herrera and hyperendocrine monstrosities

minmi with tail spikes even though they haven't been confirmed isn't so outlandish imo

barren zephyr
violet magnet
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gonna stick these here so i don't lose 'em

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barren zephyr
violet magnet
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site i got em from says it's minmi

barren zephyr
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don't worry, TI minmi is a Kunbarrasaurus

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Minmi paravertebra (Molnar 1960, early Cretaceous, 3m) was recovered as the most basal anklylosaur by Thompson et al. 2011. Derived from a sister to Scelidosaurus, Minmi was close to al other ankylosaurs and nodosaurs.

Overall smaller than most ankylosaurs, the skull was larger, the torso shorter and the legs relatively longer. Distinct from Scelidosaurus the torso of Minmi was wider than tall. The pubis was a vestige. The limbs were all subequal in length, the ilia were largely horizontal, acting like armor plates, the armor plates were larger, no temporal fenestra appear on the skull.

Gut contents consist of fragments of fibrous or vascular plant tissue, fruiting bodies, spherical seeds, and vesicular tissue (possibly from fern sporangia). The fragments are uniform in size and cut cleanly, indicating oral processing supported by inset teeth probably within cheeks.

Kunbarrasaurus ieversi (Leahy et al. 2015) is the new name for the skull above, formerly Minmi sp.

violet magnet
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ooohhhh

barren zephyr
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not sure what it's suppose to be

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lol

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obiwan Jurassic Park

coral swan
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I don't know where to ask this but I've seen so many ppl asking for the global chat and so many putting an X on their wish. Why tho? If you don't want global you go to a server where is no global.. why would you ask that it shouldn't be at least toggleable? XD

karmic plank
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It would be very useful for server admins, that's for sure.

charred grove
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So this growth spurt/damage thing is just painful. My last playthrough as a raptor, I didn't fully heal or have the blood disappear from my screen until I was about 65-70%. That's a little bit extreme if you ask me

charred grove
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Imo this small patch has ruined evrima. The lag and rubber banding got me killed so many times. It also broke my computer, putting so much strain on UT that everything open at the time on my pc crashed and I had to do a hard reset on my computer. The game has been getting so much hype and the screenshots etc are looking so good that it's easy to forget that these are graphics not moving assets or terrain and they are also done on setups so expensive they would put a hard-core gamer to shame. All in all, this game has become frustrating and a large pile of bull turd

last lily
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@keen socket Yes

small quarry
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@old orbit

  1. I believe dev ban list is a list of players/servers that devs have banned from the game.
  2. character save system is the system that saves your dinosaur's data (Health, position growth etc) so when you reconnect you carry on from where you left off. In previous patch we had issues with dinos resetting to earlier stage in their growth so guessing they fixed that.
  3. spectator mode is for server admins. Lets them see player names and AI I think. There were some issues with it causing lag even if admins were not actively using it.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong about any of that.

jade schooner
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To @steep sparrow, I believe the current Minmi is based on this illustration made by Peter Schouten for the Western Australian Museum. Bear in mind it's 7 years old at least. And in the webpage of the australian museum you find it as minmi, but if you google kunbarrasaurus, the same image pops out, so... idk what to think. Let's just stick with it

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inner tide
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@queen mortar not even the rubber banding. carno teno utah is just hard to bait or move fast now

queen mortar
inner tide
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if u start running to the left or right. it doesnt do it straight away, it starts up an animation then does it

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so if u walk then try to run to the left or right it will be delayed

vestal rune
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I think that's the "turning intertia" they added

inner tide
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well its fucking trash

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feels like legacy

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i think its ok for big dinos cause there large but not small ones

vestal rune
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legacy doesn't have turning inertia

weak dune
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I don't think that's entirely the point though

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Kind of agreed on the turning inertia thing as Impala said. Bigger dinos? Yes. Small, agile dinos? Maybe turn it down just a bit

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It really feels like the devs apply certain effects across the board with no nuance to things like size, such as with Deino's little splash radar picking things up exactly the same between a Hypsi and a Stego in water

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Stego should have a much bigger "splash detection" on it than a Hypsi

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Just as an example

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@thorny cosmos Deino bleed in water was always like that

thorny cosmos
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Hopefully they make so deino can't overlap it anymore

weak dune
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Well most dinos can be tracked through their bleed on land, there's no real reason not to give Deino similar treatment in water, especially since it has such a safe escape compared to most other dinos

thorny cosmos
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cuz you can see a out line of it

pulsar lake
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I love how apparently the game is even more laggy but Filipe refuses to acknowledge that it is a program problem.

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Also Filipe against mod.

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His statement is kinda...disappointing tbh and sad.

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Mods aren't done to replace things but to add most of the time.

last lily
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That mod rant was pretty yikes....TI_TrooBruh

thorny cosmos
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Yeah it is interesting to see that but really it's up to someone of a higher power whether or not mods are in again.

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even tho I still have The isles workshop updates in my downloads lmao

pulsar lake
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Ngl

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new map, new playables, new skins

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Those are the thing I want to see.

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Unique new playables such as Gigantoraptor, Iguanodon, Torvosaurus. Better Acrocanthosaurus, Albertosaurus, Ankylosaurus.

lavish quail
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utahs so op now lol

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i can play attrition on 3 stegs at a time

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just pounce em stalk em and kill em

mystic falcon
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I like how people are mixed between saying Utah is dog water and Utah is OP lol

lavish quail
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its aweful against everything else

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i mean like if there is a carno its screwed

night ruin
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carno still good over all or does it just clown on utah?

keen reef
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It clowns on Utah

strange wave
keen reef
night ruin
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Using charge or just biting?

keen reef
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I charged killed the first one and bit all the rest

night ruin
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lol nice

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truly there is no better time to be a carno main

keen reef
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It's not nice I feel bad for Utah mains the thing sucks now lmao

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I never feel bad for Utah

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So this must be bad

lavish quail
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nah utah is good against slower than it creatures

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teno steg deino

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all of em can be attritioned

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and the fact that like 3 utahs can fit on 1 side of a steg

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utah mega packs are broken now

keen reef
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Utah is definitely not broken

pale bloom
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Utah is garbage no matter the numbers

keen reef
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Pretty sure stego still destroys utahs

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As well

pale bloom
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Megapacks can be reduced to half considering how fragile and less agile the playable is now

lavish quail
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this looks aweful to me

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pale bloom
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You have 10 Utahs, 5 of them pretty sure gonna die before that single prey goes down

lavish quail
keen reef
lavish quail
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the bounce back it massive

lavish quail
pale bloom
pulsar lake
pale bloom
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Stegos can use terrain to avoid pounce even better now that Utah damage is a joke

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Going for headshots with bites takes like 50+ headshots

lavish quail
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everything is slower

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so nothing is slower

keen reef
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Well you see, it still impacts the gameplay a lot

lavish quail
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for me not really

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i just feel small

pale bloom
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Stego swing is the same, and Stego turns faster..

lavish quail
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and this feels aweful

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keen reef
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Like when stuff was so quick in the initial release, it made Utah incredibly hard to deal with due not having enough time to react to most things. Despite your speed it didn't matter

It's the same here, now you have all the time in the world to react to things

lavish quail
lavish quail
pale bloom
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Yet to be checked by myself, rubberbanding is an issue aswell

lavish quail
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make the ground darker!

white torrent
cyan flame
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That's why you use distractions and proper ambush. Don't just be hunting something in the open and bait. There are other methods to hunting too. And stego never destroyed utahs, barring the dismount issue.

lavish quail
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jesus utah gets clowned on by carnos

white torrent
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Utah = clown

lavish quail
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nah utahs op rn

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but also aweful

white torrent
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Certainly sounds like Utah

cyan flame
lavish quail
strange wave
white torrent
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Why’s that?

strange wave
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the roster is already bloated asf
the current designs for alberto, acro, and anky are more than fine

white torrent
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No, they really aren’t

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Alberto is fine too me, but acro and anky are not

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Vast amounts of people do not like the rhino anky hybrid and it’s bulbous head

lavish quail
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anky needs a re design

white torrent
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Many people don’t like how fat acro is, I’m in that camp

lavish quail
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deino is dead meat against a carno

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against anything that can get behind it tbh

white torrent
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If people want to be able to change those less than stellar designs for a sever they own than why not? If people like the hybrid anky than they will play it on official servers

strange wave
lavish quail
strange wave
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or, follow this revolutionary new trick

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dont fucking fight carnos on land as a deino you donut

lavish quail
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tbh this game rn doesnt involve alot of skill

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and being an idiot as a deino is great

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just tank fucking everything now

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the new deino nerf is based tho

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I ANGERED THE COPS

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HELP ME

white torrent
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*crocs

lavish quail
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the steg is there too

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i angered the popo and im paying the price

mystic falcon
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lol only bad crocs are getting bodied by carnos. I've had zero issues killing carnos even with the stam cost. Double bite is still a thing. Pretty easy to not get baited into wasting all your stam. Also, it takes like 9000 hits for a carno to kill a croc. Their bleed recovery is still amazing and their health pool is insane.

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Now rubberbanding? That's the true dino killer right now. Nerf rubberbanding plz.

steep sparrow
steep sparrow
solar salmon
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@ebon geyser well you're on low settings so you shouldn't be surprised?

ebon geyser
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mud didnt look like snow on low before

solar salmon
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doesn't look like snow

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looks like mud on low settings

desert heart
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Devs should add VOIP and make it so only same species can hear the real player’s voice meanwhile all other species in the vicinity would hear dinosaur sounds while someone is speaking.

jolly prairie
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Question, is a dino and heavier with a full stomach? And if not, is he planning to do it?

lavish quail
strange wave
urban flax
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Why does everything needs attacks weapons anyway ? Dryo and ptera do fine without

pulsar lake
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Those are fine as they aren't meant to be fighters.

hoary dawn
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minmi isn't either, its a defense machine

urban flax
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And hiding

long lance
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is the spino gonna be addded to survival?

icy lion
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eventually yea

barren zephyr
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Far in the future

urban flax
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@trim gate What if you didn't try to charge at deinos as a carno and didn't try to pounce them as a raptor ? Cause either way they're just out of your prey range

trim gate
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of course you wouldn't be stupid enough to try it, but when it comes down to it there has to be atleast some way to fight back against a deino at the very least... as it stands there is literally nothing you can do to defend yourself currently

urban flax
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Run ?

trim gate
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despite that it still doesn't change the fact that those two certain abilities do not function, doesn't matter if you plan to use it or not, a Carno charge for example should at the very least do a small stun

urban flax
feral solstice
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Wait

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You’re saying

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A 1.8Ton carnivore should slightly stun an 8 ton carnivore?

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Nah nah its too much weight to allow that

somber egret
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deino "buff" health got increased oke, but the speed got reduced significantly and its alt bite takes 10% stamina per use... thats not a buff and no nerf, thats balancing things out

feral solstice
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^

trim gate
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yeah sure ballance, that explains why most of the servers i play on consists of deino who kill literally anything in sight cause you can't do anything against them

somber egret
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deinos are i.m.o in a bad spot atm without a map update since everyone is way faster and can outrun it, and noone needs to take a sip in deino water since shallows are more than abundant

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well they need smth else than other deinos to hunt them in the water in the early stages

urban flax
trim gate
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no because how the heck would a dryo fight a t rex anyway, i'm saying the devs should give people atleast more options to defend themselves against something that currently is basically unkillable unless your a stego

urban flax
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How the heck should a Utah or Carno fight a deino anyway ?

trim gate
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look im done talking about this, i've given my feedback, at the very least im more bothered by the utah speed nerf

somber egret
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yep but i agree that the deinos need smth in the future to compete against in the water so that it isnt that easy to get to adulthood

trim gate
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a Utah is a weak carni as it is, it relies on its speed to stay out of danger, the new update makes that iconic speed basically nonexistant

icy lion
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@kind fiber QA applications are always open by DMing hypno

urban flax
trim gate
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im not even talking about the deino

kind fiber
trim gate
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that topic ended when i said "i'm done talking about it"

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i have no desire to force my views onto others, i speak my mind and then end the topic

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by trying to force your view onto others just results into fighting about opinions

hoary dawn
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explaining that a small tier pack hunter and a mid tier small game hunter shouldn't be able to stand a chance against an apex supergator isn't really forcing a view, its just common sense

warped fog
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Deino is overpowered, but not in the way you may originally think.
Its stats aren't inflated, and it's not too strong, it just has no competition or enemies in its element yet.
Outside of its element it is able to be tired out with the alt bite change and potentially dragged down by even smaller carnis like utah and carno, but deinos don't usually leave their element (rightfully so). They're always a minute or two away from water. They're overpowered because they have no foreign threats in their element, and the only foreign threat near their element is a single herbivore barely anyone plays.
When suchomimus, maybe spinosaurus and possibly even baryonyx are added, deinosuchus will not have a get out of jail free card. And when more large terrestrial dinos are added, both stego and deino will have foreign threats they'll need to fight.
As of now deino is in a perfect position balance wise for these creatures to be added, the only problem is that until that happens, deinosuchus (and stego) will be more viable than the other dinos in their current state

feral solstice
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^^^^^^

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Sucho, Cerato, etc. would help with the Deino population

warped fog
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cerato is a maybe, since it might suffer similar problems as carno. Allo/rex/giga/acro are probably better guesses for terrestrial predators
I agree with sucho though, I think it alone might make deino balanced

icy lion
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pretty much anything water-oriented can deal with young deinos

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its just the big ones thatll be difficult, as they should be

pulsar lake
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Best option is running

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Just

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As simple as it is

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Don't try to fight it

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It's not a dark soul boss lmao

warped fog
lavish quail
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xD why the fuck is there a loading bar at the bottom

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i find that hillarious since it shouldnt be something im looking at anyway

quartz kiln
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what do u mean why? so u know your screen isnt frozen???

icy lion
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@hard kite this is a visual bug, you are not taking damage. please see the pins in #isle-discussion

hard kite
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thank you

lavish quail
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there is a loading bar in the cornor

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i was there for like 1/3 of a second

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so dumb

hoary dawn
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what exactly is the "pteranodon airbrake issue"