Wanna know what’s not neat
#general-feedback-discussion
honest sparrow
limber hull
the lesser of two evils
honest sparrow
shit
paper oriole
id just kos them and leave the body
barren zephyr
I mean the devs could as well be arseholes and do it that apex predators cannot be toggled on or off
honest sparrow
iirc all dinos can be toggled off and on so ye
barren zephyr
As the saying goes, Survive The Isle
honest sparrow
Eventually anyway
paper oriole
imagine a server with utahs disabled, bliss
paper oriole
but magy's gotta be an outlet for people to vent on like a punching bag
limber hull
prefer a server with carnos disabled over utahs. Carnos are fucking everywhere and I don't wanna see them anymore
barren zephyr
but I am someone who sorta goes along with whatever the devs decide
honest sparrow
Just disable every dino except Dryo
barren zephyr
They are the ones in charge, not us.
paper oriole
the carno spam broadcasting really is horrendous
limber hull
Just disable every dino except Dryo
the ultimate experience
lethal flare
@oak tapir @wicked furnace The three best options imo for an ocean guard. This is an accurate size chart I made (art by Harry the Fox) comparing them to a T-Rex and Utah. Top is Mosasaurus, mid left is Temnodontosaurus, mid right is Kronosaurus.
barren zephyr
<@!680319234706112533> <@!792054124505989160> The three best options imo for an ...
...
no human for scale
secondly those are fucking jp dinosaurs
barren zephyr
lethal flare
no human for scale
Human is the raptors height. The Isle Rex and Utah are literally the same as the ones from JP
honest sparrow
Isle rex isn’t really jp except for the roars
paper oriole
and the fact that its a bit underweight like jp but that's just because it's outdated
lethal flare
Isle rex isn’t really jp except for the roars
They look very similar
honest sparrow
Not really
lethal flare
Yes
I only used the JP rex because I couldn't find a full body side view of the Isle Rex. If you want to make a better chart go for it.
honest sparrow
Did someone unironically suggest cum
limber hull
okay so thats the kind of person we dont want access to shit
honest sparrow
I am at my limit
lethal flare
Did someone unironically suggest cum
It would be as a joke
limber hull
man ACTUALLY asked for dinosaur cum
silent current
lethal flare
I'm sure it's ironic unless they are batshit
Wait is breeding actually getting added?
honest sparrow
Nesting is a thing but it’s probably just like a button thing and then the female has to incubate
limber hull
imagine being an animator forced to animate two dinos fucking. No animator should be forced to do that
paper oriole
see the devs talk about adding shit and then that type of person crawls from the shadows to ask for a step further smh
lethal flare
but there won't be any sex lmao
The guy said it like sex is going to be a thing wtf haha
honest sparrow
see the devs talk about adding shit and then that type of person crawls from the...
Don’t forget piss and body odor
paper oriole
yikers
honest sparrow
Because those were confirmed too
paper oriole
wtf is the purpose of piss
lethal flare
Why tho
honest sparrow
wtf is the purpose of piss
Nothing
paper oriole
body odor for AFKers? sure whatever, but wtf is piss for
paper oriole
they just want to add it to add it?
honest sparrow
Nothing
Idk
They have like no reasoning
Other than dondi wanted shit for tracking
lethal flare
That's dumb
honest sparrow
Or as afk deterrent
paper oriole
imagine the utah packs pissing everywhere to mawk theiw tewwitowy UWU no thanks ugh please god no
lethal flare
Brachiosaurus shit will be bigger than half the roster
paper oriole
ok if brachi can literally kill small dinos with shit and puke i'll forgive it... partially
honest sparrow
I like the isle because it’s a survival game where I’m existent as a genetically modified dinosaur who fights others, as well as multiple humans and monsters, not to watch my fucking ornithopod take a leak
paper oriole
there better not be animations or sounds
lethal flare
I don't think dinosaurs even marked their territory with piss lol
honest sparrow
Like dondi even mentioned shit like rubbing against trees for emotes or for dinos to benefit from
WHY NOT HAVE THAT INSTEAD
lethal flare
I wonder if furries will join just to be able to piss as a dinosaur
honest sparrow
Don’t even get me started
paper oriole
is it just so AFKers start stinking up a storm because that's literally the only function i can see, and this brings back memories of the 'mild diarrhea' suggestion
honest sparrow
I am up at 2 am on my birthday looking at a message that wants dino cum and devs who want shit in game
I am done
limber hull
a gift
paper oriole
true
limber hull
the way he said that
honest sparrow
It’s funny now
limber hull
the way he specified "mild"
paper oriole
a mild diarrhea
limber hull
as in there would be other variants
honest sparrow
Fucking pleasant and tame diarrhea
hasty dagger
What the actual fuck..
paper oriole
honestly they should just make afkers fall asleep and snore loud af
no body odor or whatever needed
hasty dagger
@edgy harbor you’re online, can you..
honest sparrow
honestly they should just make afkers fall asleep and snore loud af
I might afk just to see sleep anims if that were the case tbh
lethal flare
I don't see the problem with going afk lol
paper oriole
afk should just halt growth or be inconvenient to do
because afk growers are a waste of a server slot
lethal flare
because afk growers are a waste of a server slot
Some people don't have time to play for long
honest sparrow
Ok so you’re booting the game up when you know you have a short time, and you choose to make it less active and engaging
paper oriole
if you dont have the time why are you getting on just to AFK in the first place?
lethal flare
So they can play as an Adult which is a lot funnier to list than being a Juvi.
lethal flare
Ok so you’re booting the game up when you know you have a short time, and you ch...
No I mean they sit afk while they are busy
paper oriole
well when sandbox servers come back they can just go there or freegrow servers
afk should be discouraged on normal survival servers
paper oriole
if its getting up to let your dog out or taking a phone call its one thing but a lot of people tab out to watch youtube or play another game while they plop their ass in a bush in some untrafficked area
solar peak
but now smth like "ok I'll afk grow now since I'm busy"
lethal flare
Yeah ngl I'm gonna be playing on sandbox and freegrow servers when they come out because when I get a job soon I'm probably not going to have time to grow a croc for six hours
solar peak
you don't have to grow it in 1 day tho
honest sparrow
if its getting up to let your dog out or taking a phone call its one thing but a...
I mean I do, things I play grow fast anyway and the game isn’t exactly the most engaging as a juvi Dryo or Ptera
I don’t like doing it
lethal flare
No but like if I'm playing an hour a day it will take a week to get to Adult and that's if I don't die in that time
paper oriole
same im too impatient to grow some big slow apex just to get lynch mobbed by 20 utahs anyway
lethal flare
Hate it when that happens
solar peak
well that's why I don't like playing apexes and choose small or mid tiers
lethal flare
Or a mix pack of Utah's and Stegos ruins your fun
paper oriole
grow fast, run fast, die fast is much funner gameplay to me than seeing a utah megapack and knowing that i'm about to die even if i kill 12 of them
solar peak
grow fast, run fast, die fast is much funner gameplay to me than seeing a utah m...
tbh I would be satisfied if I killed that many utah players 
honest sparrow
Ngl killing a utah megapack as carno is really fun
paper oriole
yeah it feels great to rid the server of an uwutah but then they grow back so fast lol
honest sparrow
And that my friend
paper oriole
especially if they reunite with their megapack
paper oriole
dryo the juvie terminator is pretty good yeah
honest sparrow
Do you wish you could halt the growth of megapacks singlehandedly?
Well have I got news for you!
Try Dryosaurus, the cure for all those pesky juvis
paper oriole
i hope my dear gallimimus is as good at killing babies in front of their parents as legacy's galli was too
paper oriole
cant believe that suggestion is still there lol
honest sparrow
I love you juvi be gone
lofty pagoda
Try Dryosaurus, the cure for all those pesky juvis
pesky
paper oriole
funni blue carno man
solar peak
yes
lethal flare
Carnos smelly
paper oriole
also speaking of smelly carno megapacks, doesnt the megapack scent cloud kinda make the body odor and megaherd dung trails kinda useless?
limber hull
also i feel like taking a shit randomly while stalking something would be kinda lame
paper oriole
we already have the cloud, we already have foot tracks, we can have clawing and gashing for marks
if it just kinda spawns alongside normal tracks sometimes as ground texture i suppose that wouldnt be an issue
because stalking something or trying to sneak away from something and suddenly becoming a big ol scent cloud would feel so cheap
some people want involuntary sneezing and stuff too like no thanks
honest sparrow
if it just kinda spawns alongside normal tracks sometimes as ground texture i su...
but then what’s the point
honest sparrow
You’re getting the exact same info you’d get from following footsteps, just with a big ol shit on the side
paper oriole
you can already tell species and age by tracks once you learn them and that is enough information
honest sparrow
I do hope there is a way to better distinguish the large theropod tracks tho
paper oriole
if somebody wants to find a mate then people looking for one could easily flip a switch in their character menu to make their tracks a different scent within species too
yeah some of the big theropod tracks could be tricky
maybe theyll have noticable gait differences but idk
honest sparrow
Being able to give off a certain pheromone in footprints or by leaving markings on trees or rocks would be cool
To find a mate at least anyway
paper oriole
yeah and to know who actually is interested in nesting
instead of finding somebody and theyre like "lol no"
chilly matrix
ok so what do you have to say this time Mir ?
paper oriole
for some carnis i the family thing for diets could work, but for some like carnotaurus who generalizes small prey it's preferred diet should just be in a weight bracket
chilly matrix
anything i should change ?
chilly matrix
for some carnis i the family thing for diets could work, but for some like carno...
hmm ok ok
honest sparrow
Honestly specialist vs generalist carnis might impact this a lot
chilly matrix
ok let me change that up real quick
paper oriole
like with allosaurus the preference of any stegosaur or any sauropod (minus magy apparently) can work out
honest sparrow
Also like imagine pachy being included in compy’s diet because it’s a pachycephalosaur 
paper oriole
or a taco being in rex's diet because it's a ceratopsian lol
safe galleon
compy should be in pachys diet since omni pachy is real
paper oriole
omni pachy, juvie destroyer
safe galleon
omni pachy is so cursed and I refuse to believe, even if they find bones in pachys stomach
chilly matrix
or a taco being in rex's diet because it's a ceratopsian lol
could be but maybe only for juvs since it wouldnt really sustain a full grown rex
honest sparrow
I remember something about diets not changing with growth
Or something along those lines
paper oriole
personally i think rex throughout its life cycle should only gain perks from hunting things in its size range
since it is a brawler after all
honest sparrow
But I would vastly prefer rex stages hunting different things
chilly matrix
I remember something about diets not changing with growth
nah nah what i mean yeah sure it can still eat taco's but it wouldnt really grant much food since its so small
white rune
@sudden hinge the Torvo you presented is undersized tbh.
Torvo is in the 5 tons range now.
I'd like more intermediate between apexes and mid tiers tbh and Torvo with Acro could fill this part.
Unlike herbivores having Para, Theriz, Pachyrhino and even Plateosaurus.
Here we only have Acro.
Btw, everyone, don't trust Filipe on what will be added. It's similar as Kissen saying that Magy will out run Allo or previously Deinosuchus size when at a moment he didn't know.
Carcha must be a Giga skin tbh and if it is done accurate I'd play more Giga.
Ambush bleeder would be even better than endurance bleeder 
Give the endurance to Tyrannosaurus.
paper oriole
hopefully if it is, they give carcha a dewlap since they took away giga's and made him look boring and generic with its boring smooth crest and nothing on its neck
white rune
I mean.
let me check for some other paleoart
and the most recent skeletal
you can give it some bigger crests
but it wasn't as important as Giganotosaurus.
The skull shape is pretty different.
but gameplay wise I do not see it that much of unique. Like sure, it could work differently than Acro or Giga, same as Tarbo and Rex, but idk.
Carcha being a big boy now.
Also I think that shit and piss must be troll
but
who knows
they already did puke that's mostly annoying and shouldn't have been added without diet, same goes for locked health without ways to heal faster
puke is only a mammal thing, same goes for territory with piss and poop. Only mammals do that.
So :
-it is disgusting
-it is unnecessary
-it is dumb
paper oriole
i mean technically puke isnt exclusive to mammals, since snakes and birds sometimes regurgitate, but it is annoying af in game rn
eat 1% too much and you get an annoying debuff
white rune
i mean technically puke isnt exclusive to mammals, since snakes and birds someti...
This isn't puke anymore. Puke is the mammal thing that get you sick. Meanwhile reptiles can eat as much as they want and just get the thing out if they need to without any sorts of diseases.
paper oriole
true they only really do it if they need to gtfo of an area fast and drop the extra weight
barren zephyr
puke is only a mammal thing, same goes for territory with piss and poop. Only ma...
Crocodilians maintain territories by fighting or by vocalising
white rune
Yes.
barren zephyr
they do have musk glands, as did psittacosaurus (and thus other ornithischians, possibly)
ashen elm
It really depends on what exactly they want a waste mechanic for but I agree for dinosaurs they probably used scent differently than mammals. As it is, they can probably accomplish a lot of territory and scenting mechanics just with scent glands or rubbing on objects.
paper oriole
Gigantoraptor might be a good mid tier omni
It'd basically be galli on steroids as far as gameplay goes
paper oriole
Dude wrote a whole essay about shit and then upvoted his own suggestion multiple times 
barren zephyr
What do you guys think about what I wrote? :´D
compact hare
I guess they made water move when deino moves for "balancing" I guess?
You are able to avoid a lunge you know
ashen wasp
late to the puke discussion but crocodilians regurgitate as well-- not particularly due to sickness but in order to yak up undigestible materials theyve eaten
paper oriole
So like what birds do too with the pellets
I hope they rework the vomiting thing honestly
dapper terrace
Dude wrote a whole essay about shit and then upvoted his own suggestion multiple...
Only to start it off. The first few votes are the slowest to come. I remove the votes after a handful of people have voted. Like putting your own money in a tip jar at a cafe.
paper oriole
In those cases people typically drop a check and an x under their suggestion
Not a whole string of self upvotes lol
ashen wasp
i feel like the overeating system we have now is fine, actually-- ive never had a problem with the buffer between 100% and vomiting, and it prevents needless waste of resources
dapper terrace
Not a whole string of self upvotes lol
It's something I always do. And I have some of the most upvoted suggestions to be posted here.
paper oriole
It seems a bit silly that eating a tiny bit too much would make you hurl though, i can understand it being used so people dont stuff themselves to grief other people out of food though
dapper terrace
It seems a bit silly that eating a tiny bit too much would make you hurl though,...
There's a 15% buffer before you vomit
It's not as small as you'd think
It's only an issue for people who don't realise they can cancel the eating animation, and instead wait to finish eating naturally, and then overeat as a result
cyan flame
Yeah, they did add a bit of a buffer, before then it was stupidly easy to overeat, but now you have some room for an extra bite, unless you start eating again after you stopped
paper oriole
It must have changed since its beginning then
cyan flame
It has yes
dapper terrace
It has
paper oriole
Well thats good at least
dapper terrace
@cyan flame what are your thoughts on my shitty essay?
paper oriole
Was dumb eating 1% too much and not being able to get to 100% exactly because im dumb and impulsive lol
cyan flame
<@175015945360769025> what are your thoughts on my *shitty* essay?
I am way too tired to deal with your puns ^^ But I like the ideas in general, and some of it sounded close to my own ideas for those mechanics. The main thing I disagree with is the message thing. Different colors for some basic concepts would be fine, but actual text throws off immersion a bit too much for me. Not to mention people will troll with that, and most likely put questionable messages as well if they can get away with it.
dapper terrace
I know asking to type a message is a bit much of an ask, but I love the idea of leaving messages for people to find
Colours is a more realistic alternative, but I can dream 
cyan flame
Yeah, but what with the things we could find in global, I don't know on that one :p
dapper terrace
People's names would be next to messages, so offensive content could be reported to Admins
There would be a lot of "Hitler did nothing wrong" and the like tho. But on Moderated servers those people would get swift bans
ashen wasp
if "mating animations" were handled in any way, i could see some sort of courting emote where both sexes sorta bob or swing their heads or something-- just as a visual acknowledgement of the invite
dapper terrace
People can say offensive stuff in local chat too, and I don't think the solution should be removing the ability to communicate via typed messages
dapper terrace
if "mating animations" were handled in any way, i could see some sort of courtin...
I wouldn't hate that.
ashen wasp
and as an addition to the vomit discussion, an appreciated addition would be a stomach-gurgling audio cue when one has eaten into that 15% buffer, to maximize nutrition and still stop before the debuff kicks in
cyan flame
People can say offensive stuff in local chat too, and I don't think the solution...
True enough, and yes, with moderation it would fix issues. But I don't know, it's a little too strange for immersion, but then I prefer to just use calls and body-language over chat in general so maybe that's on me.
urban flax
@tame jetty How is the game supposed to be good for everyone regardless of age ?
Isn't it stated as Pegi 18 on steam ?
tame jetty
<@!389092106267787265> How is the game supposed to be good for everyone regardle...
I meant as instead of realistic mating animation.. cuddling is better ig because i seen people and even the devs are not fan of realistic mating.. so
urban flax
Do we need mating animations at all ?
tame jetty
Do we need mating animations at all ?
Yeh i really think so.. just standing beside eachother and then bomb mating.. is lame... the game already so realistic and even adding pooping and peeing so why not this :D
limber hull
just have male make nest, female make egg
i dont wanna watch two dinos fucking and i really dont want ERP in my dinosaur game
urban flax
Actually dinosaurs peeing is nowhere near realistic
haughty forge
No just go to the other and pretend rubbing neck or something boom you have your "rp mating"
tame jetty
i dont wanna watch two dinos fucking and i really dont want ERP in my dinosaur g...
Yes this is what i MEAN. Its not fucking if they just cuddling or doing friendly short close gesture beside eachother for like few seconds....
urban flax
I think the "good for everyone" is a bad argument against mating animations tho
tame jetty
I think the "good for everyone" is a bad argument against mating animations tho
Wdym.. how can some dinos just rubbing their necks for legit few seconds or side to side be bad for ANYone??
lol
cyan flame
Do we need mating animations at all ?
No, no more than we need animations for this other subject.
haughty forge
Ok then Pounce the raptor, you will have animation for raptor... a little bit violent but still work no? I'm jk
urban flax
Wdym.. how can some dinos just rubbing their necks for legit few seconds or side...
You probably misread. The Isle is not trying to be fit for every age. The problem with mating animations isn't that it's not good for children, it's that there's a lot of people with weird fetishes out there.
haughty forge
Hell yes
tame jetty
You probably misread. The Isle is not trying to be fit for every age. The proble...
So... still some dinos rubbing their necks few secs still isnt anything bad.. it more so just adds to realism .. fetish or not that a private thing for the individual lol
urban flax
@steep warren Wheelchairs would be useless on The Isle
Just grab a crutch and you're good to go, way better than a wheelchair
Wheelchairs are for when both your legs are unusable, and they only work on even terrain
cyan flame
I don't think you'll last long if you're that wounded.. just lie down and hope to die quickly :p
tame jetty
and why tf we got wheelchairs now LMAO XD
haughty forge
Idk
tame jetty
HAHA xD
best shit i seen today
imma mark that as a YES just bc its the best i seen xD
haughty forge
But anyway for my point of view, if you wanna pretend hugging the animations that we have rn can totally work with little imagination so...
tame jetty
But anyway for my point of view, if you wanna pretend hugging the animations tha...
you mean nesting wise ye?
haughty forge
I mean for rp purpose only
tame jetty
I dont see any negative side of the idea i put forward on mating animation so.. bc its not in any way grafic that way lol
cyan flame
@tame jettyI guess you could add one of those shared emotes as some form of nuzzling, could even add a touch of scent to you and your "partner", let anyone that sniffs see that you share a scent and are "bonded". But it would not relate to nesting, more so just a social thing, just like potential dominance fighting and other stuff we might get.
tame jetty
I mean for rp purpose only
Yeah i deff wouldnt mind seeing a field of stegos, on the nesting plains.. just cuddling breef :D
haughty forge
If you wanna talk dino cuddles it would be strange for me because neither birds or reptiles in the wild cuddles, especially to make a nest.
tame jetty
If you wanna talk dino cuddles it would be strange for me because neither birds ...
Yeah bc they... fuck to make kids... but since we cant have that... i just want smth that replace it in a calm manner :)
tame jetty
Bc it will add to the game... give it even more emercive feeling... like the damn abient sounds, ais that make the map not feel smaller(thats the plan atleast for the ais lol)
ect
Then what is the point of ambient sound example??
we dont need the sound of birds over us, or frog sounds...
but we have it. makes the game feel gr8 :D
haughty forge
It will not be more immersiv ambiant sound is
tame jetty
then the breef cuddling, or neck rub or just smth to show dino emotions instead of standing still. And instead of intense fucking, its a nice replecement
cyan flame
I'd think something more akin to preening/grooming, social bonding, should not relate to nesting, more if you want to mark that you're bonded for one reason or another.
tame jetty
I'd think something more akin to preening/grooming, social bonding, should not r...
yeah or this :D
cyan flame
We are getting emotes, or at least it has been talked about, including shared ones, so there's at least potential for something like that.
tame jetty
just to give the bloody dinos some personality :D
haughty forge
Dino cuddling is more of a fantasm than a real thing that could happen to birds and reptiles. And again if you wanna rp, use your imagination with the animations that already existe.
tame jetty
Dino cuddling is more of a fantasm than a real thing that could happen to birds ...
i just love isle for the realism of it.. so seeing it would rlly be nice lol
haughty forge
... but it would be NOT realist. I don't defend the realism factor in the isle but here you are on contradiction with yourself.
cyan flame
Realism varies in importance in this game anyway.. :p
tame jetty
... but it would be NOT realist. I don't defend the realism factor in the isle b...
I mean REAL realism would be dinos fucking for real. but soft realism is some kind of close reaction with eachother ig..
Btw do you guys also experience some damn sound bug, where u cant hear when u stand in serten spots on the map or by rivers ect?
eh wdym skins..
you cant get other skins in isle..
haughty forge
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compact hare
aah ...
gaunt parcel
(about that conversation above) i'm not for "dino cuddles" or whatever but just "because it doesn't serve a purpose" doesn't mean it shouldn't be added, details are much appreciated in games like these, obviously something that "doesn't serve a purpose" wouldn't be prioritized of course but being looked on later when the game is reaching stability could still be a thing.
limber hull
@digital plank i love the idea of having a fucking poison fit and just ben slowly slides in from the darkness
digital plank
exactly
gaunt parcel
😭 i want that
digital plank
the true reason the isle is a horror game
limber hull
absolutely no animation
gaunt parcel
i want to sneak into some old merc outpost and find redacted files of danger rex 
digital plank
just t-posing and sliding
gaunt parcel
absolutely no animation
T-posed 3D modeled and fully rendered
digital plank
i want to sneak into some old merc outpost and find redacted files of danger rex...
also a great idea
gaunt parcel
i'm worried for piss shit and mating in this game 
severe idol
Puking on people is fine, occasionally pooping is bad.
You guys have weird priorities.
rugged quarry
Actually searching Maori axe shows metal axes so here’s what I’m actually talking about
swift dew
@bleak atlas sure, giga acro and carchar are similar (I say fuck carchar). and ava is similar to dibble, as is styraco. but how in the FUCK is pachyrhino similar to those 3? pachyrhino is a fractures based ceratopsian, compared to the other three which do piercing attacks
urban flax
I carchar really coming to the game ? Where did people get that from ?
barren zephyr
I hope not
urban flax
I'm going to really ask myself questions if the same devs who said they didn't want clone animals in their game decided to add carcharodontosaurus along with giga, out of nowhere...
Unless they have a very good and inventive idea to make the two different
cyan flame
Why would we be getting a carcharo when we have both acro and giga. Are they're not very similar critters?
urban flax
Or maybe carchar is planned but as a giga skin
It seems weird that they'd be working on a giga skin this early though
barren zephyr
Yeah, I have no idea how they’ll separate the two making one unique from the other. Doesn’t make sense.
rugged quarry
Carcaro sounds the most unique to me do away with acro imo
Best pick for a bleeder
urban flax
Carcharo is literally giga with a slightly differently shaped chin
rugged quarry
Teeth tho
barren zephyr
Plus it’s smaller
cyan flame
So .. a subgiga? :p
cyan flame
Might cause some ingame issues, unless you just make them unable to nest but otherwise similar stats or something?
barren zephyr
No clue, I would just save the trouble and just not do anything with carchar. We already have acro and giga
cyan flame
Fair enough, I'm inclined to agree, but if it is confirmed, then they'll have to do something with it I guess
urban flax
Might cause some ingame issues, unless you just make them unable to nest but oth...
They're genetically modified 
They both have 95% frog DNA
cyan flame
Go away with your JP fanfic, we have enough of that already :p
urban flax
It's canon
cyan flame
Figures.. :p
swift dew
I carchar really coming to the game ? Where did people get that from ?
#isle-discussion message
Scroll up a little for proof of context, basically someone asked what the 56'th dinosaur was so Filipe answered this
urban flax
Oh I see
swift dew
im pretty sure its because they want to do a redo of all the creatures they have created models for
seems like a waste to me though, acro is already similar enough to giga
urban flax
It's hard to tell what devs are really planning for the game when they say things like this
I suspect Filipe likes to make the community mad by saying highly controversial things
Because they already said that if carchar was coming, it would probably be as a giga skin
swift dew
yeah, I hope they don't add it. because all of those comments about making fun of tarbo now just make them sound like a hypocrite
urban flax
If one of them says Tarbo is planned we'll know they're intentionnally driving the community mad
And honestly... I would probably do the same if I was part of the dev team
barren zephyr
Time to add yuty 
molten tulip
I think the more informative scent system could be some sort of perk you have to develop
But even then it should rely on your own intuition and experience quite a bit
Probably a perk that gives scent trails different hues based on the animal, but to figure out which is which you have to figure it out
rugged quarry
In my post about tribal weapons I mentioned how stuff like mattocks (the antler war pick) could be sourced from dinosaurs. Would it be too much to ask of a tribal to kill a huge ass Dinosaur just to get a better weapon? Killing a carno to make a fracturing hammer out of it’s horns seems like a good enough reward to me.
vale pawn
Grannie aint playin these games
urban flax
In my post about tribal weapons I mentioned how stuff like mattocks (the antler ...
I think tribals killing dinosaurs to make weapons out of their bones and body parts is pretty neat and I really hope it will be this way in-game. That gives off very strong Monster Hunter vibes
rugged quarry
@barren zephyr I like the idea of the flap in combination with the hallucinogens being a biological “flash bang”
hoary dawn
mute people that dont like poop and pee
silent current
Suggestion
severe idol
@frigid storm
Muting people for having a stable and civil opinion is literally the worst thing we could do. We didn't do it for the dark times with a former Dev, we're not doing it because there are people that are fussy over a mechanic that might not come up for months or years.
That's just silly.
abstract lark
^
frigid storm
<@!203025289641590784>
Muting people for having a stable and civil opinion is li...
it's literally getting toxic at this point, imo. It's been said over and over and they're honestly not even giving critical feedback.
hoary dawn
most feedback regarding feces i've seen seems perfectly civil
feral solstice
Muting people like that is just as toxic if not worse.
hoary dawn
a lot of people disagreeing with a development choice is not toxic
frigid storm
it's not even disagreement at this point
severe idol
I don't believe your measurement of toxicity is the same as the Moderation team's. These people have opinions, let them be voiced whether you agree or not. They're not harmful, they're just annoyed.
Think of it this direction: We don't mute people that hate the Magy, even as divisive as it is. We don't mute people that hate the Anky. We don't mute people that come in speaking out against perceived injustices in the community.
We're not muting someone because they hate a potential mechanic.
silent current
Might as well mute people who rightfully dislike alberto model, same thing following this logic
severe idol
If we muted everyone that disagreed with something then this place would be a ghost town.
silent current
Most feedback about shit and piss has been pretty civil as others said
frigid storm
nah i've definitely seen it more about mockery and the like
severe idol
Then report it when it comes up, ya dink.
We talk about reports we get. You've submitted none.
Don't complain about a problem, be part of it's solution.
frigid storm
you mean complain like all the people who don't like piss and shit?
ok
thanks for informing me on my report record
somber wraith
Don’t @ me for voicing my opinions and try to change my mind or something. I won’t respond. Thanks
sturdy widget
People are being such babies about the piss and shit, like you don't do it everyday. I get some weirdos out there fetishize it but it can be used to add neat scenarios and mechanics.
frigid storm
also @somber wraith crocodiles don't eat each other in the wild....
quiet estuary
They do
frigid storm
not like they do in this game at least
severe idol
Don’t @ me for voicing my opinions and try to change my mind or something. I won...
You put it together nicely (except for formatting, but DM me and I'll walk you through that to make it prettier).
Good job.
honest sparrow
also <@!320546776350326786> crocodiles don't eat each other in the wild....
I don’t wanna have to post gore but they do
frigid storm
okay but it's not a primary part of their diet lmao
in this game as a deino you're eating them constantly
quiet estuary
I dont see how that is much of a problem
Modern plants werent part of herbivorous dinosaur diets
quiet estuary
The diets ingame dont reflect realistic diets of these creatures
Dont see much of a problem of it swaying off that path
honest sparrow
Our herbis would only eat shit like ferns and ginkos
frigid storm
cannibalism isn't even common amongst crocodiles
nova anchor
the isle isn't supposed to be realistic, it's fine if an animal cannibalizes a lot, especially in an early state of the game where said animal has little competition .
honest sparrow
It is
frigid storm
it's kind of similar to stegos hunting each other down
idc about realism for the sake of being realistic
honest sparrow
Then don’t use realism as an argument 
frigid storm
Then don’t use realism as an argument <:TI_Trollge:811957711397978112>
realism for the sake of immersion is important, realism for the sake of just being real is not.
abstract lark
what
barren zephyr
sick pond
does piss and shit immerse you
frigid storm
yeah, actually
barren zephyr
why
quiet estuary
Realism and how it impacts the animals gameplay is the most important thing
Hundreds of apex crocodilians isnt the best for gameplay, allowing them to benefit from cannibalism can aid in such a thing
frigid storm
roaming into a territory and seeing animal droppings would add to the immersion, i'd think "oh shit, that's a big dino," or "nothing to worry about, those are smaller droppings."
cyan flame
If the game is meant to be a survival game, then neither AI, nor prevention of cannibalism is a hinder for that. Since PvP does not make a survival game, any more than PvE does. And the game is PvPvE. Nor do you need to be able to cannibalize to have a survival game. And while people are free to disagree on if there should be "shit" in the game, it has been given examples of ingame mechanics and purposes for such things, no matter the medium of choice.
frigid storm
i don't even wanna talk about shit anymore though y'all are obsessed
sick pond
I mean you're the one who wants it in the game so bad
barren zephyr
Says the one that wants it in the game
quiet estuary
Calling the ones who dont wish for it to be added obsessed seems a tad bit wrong imo
frigid storm
Realism and how it impacts the animals gameplay is the most important thing
Hu...
nobody is saying cannibalizing shouldn't be possible though
hoary dawn
i don't think anyone wants to talk about shit
abstract lark
or wants it in game
quiet estuary
Ah well then that was a simple misunderstanding unstable
frigid storm
im just saying it should be discouraged
quiet estuary
And that is where I will disagree
frigid storm
cannibalism is sometimes necessary, and i get that, but it's also unhealthy
abstract lark
im just saying it should be discouraged
some species yes, others no
frigid storm
some species yes, others no
crocs are not inherently cannibalistic, only really to young- which honestly i've seen all animals do
abstract lark
deinosuchus
hoary dawn
it will be discourage for a lot of carnivores, but for an apex alligator with 0 competition and a niche hunting style it makes perfect sense
frigid storm
the closest living relative(might be alligators idk)
frigid storm
it will be discourage for a lot of carnivores, but for an apex alligator with 0 ...
it'll have competition in form of sucho and spino
quiet estuary
I dont see the need to discourage it outside of the entire
"You are facing an animal who is a similar strength to you so you may die in the process"
frigid storm
except that's not usually when cannibalism happens
usually it's more like a group attacking a solo
quiet estuary
You can still possibly die in those situations
frigid storm
and usually that group has the express purpose of cannibalising
quiet estuary
Or be rendered useless due to the amount of injuries you take
frigid storm
as a croc idk, you don't have much room to outplay opponents
quiet estuary
Currently no
quiet estuary
More aquatic biomes
cyan flame
Maybe if nesting and generally having your species thriving would be beneficial, there would be no need for as much cannibalism deterrents.
quiet estuary
More ways to escape
hoary dawn
gator
frigid storm
gator makes more sense because of the shape of the snout
quiet estuary
Deino combat is currently facetank fiasco
Same applies to carno
Things like proper collision boxes can fix this imo
quiet estuary
Carno vs carno is far easier to just facetank the opponent
first to hit generally wins as well
frigid storm
why would you do that
quiet estuary
As thats the easiest way to win
cyan flame
You get the first hit, you're guaranteeed to win if you just make sure to trade blows?
frigid storm
it's the fastest
quiet estuary
This is a same species combat scenario
The thing you are fighting is also the fastest
frigid storm
plus locational damage means that facetanking isn't effective as going for headshots inbetween charges
and the carno has a knockdown ability...
quiet estuary
The charge is incredibly easy to dodge
frigid storm
it is, but doesn't diminish the fact that you should still use it
quiet estuary
and in some cases puts the carno in a worse position due to the stam drain
Why would I use something that will only hit if my opponent is braindead or already stuck in some other manner
Ill only charge if I have an ambush of sorts on my opponent
frigid storm
you technically run fast during a charge, so you can hit an opponent just barely ahead of you
faster*
quiet estuary
Its still very easy to dodge
Hell its pretty enjoyable to watch carnos repeatedly miss charges as well
Gives me the vibes of those bullfighters
urban flax
@thorny lynx Forced fear mechanic isn't a good idea. In a good horror game, it's the player that feels fear, not the creature itself. If a player controlling the creature doesn't feel fear, you shouldn't force it to look afraid.
thorny lynx
But why would a hypsi not fear a T-rex
urban flax
Because the rex has no reason to kill the hypsi
If the player is not afraid, it's not afraid, that's all.
hot inlet
But why would a hypsi not fear a T-rex
because many Animals experience fear diffrent
never seen tiny birds bravely attack way larger animals dont caring at all ?
hybrid matrix
I think a better idea is to just make the dino's idle animation should get more and more frantic
thorny lynx
I still say a T-rex broadcasting close by should make smaller dinos' screens shake.
Or at least fog up your screen if he is in your face and you are very small
urban flax
Because of sound, maybe, but not because of fear.
thorny lynx
Not enough to blind, but because of his hot stinky breath is sending drool and fogging up your camera
urban flax
Actually having your screen shake when something much bigger than you roars directly at you sounds pretty neat
hybrid matrix
I think a better idea is to just make the dino's idle animation should get more ...
No thoughts on this?
urban flax
No thoughts on this?
I don't think it's really necessary. If a player is nervous, they will act in a nervous way by themselves.
thorny lynx
I say a hgpsi should definitely fear a carno. Hearing it roar should automatically change its behavior.
urban flax
I say a hgpsi should definitely fear a carno. Hearing it roar should automatical...
Not automatically. Don't automate behavior in something that you're supposed to be controlling yourself.
thorny lynx
I don't think it's really necessary. If a player is nervous, they will act in a ...
What about dinosaurs turning their heads to danger noises? The fact they just stand there and scratch their heads when an allo nearby is beyond me.
hybrid matrix
I don't think it's really necessary. If a player is nervous, they will act in a ...
IK but I think it adds a nice visual touch
urban flax
What about dinosaurs turning their heads to danger noises? The fact they just st...
They turn their head in the direction you're looking at. That's enough.
hot inlet
I say a hgpsi should definitely fear a carno. Hearing it roar should automatical...
well ... then your hide in a bush (carno not seeing you)
then he roars and your hypsi starts moving and wobbling around out of fear and you get spottet
thorny lynx
I still think large dinos should fog up your screen a little bit and show drool dropping down your screen.
urban flax
I still think large dinos should fog up your screen a little bit and show drool ...
That might be a little exxagerrated
You have to stand very very close to something roaring so that its drool covers your eyes.
hot inlet
also mayn real life Animals in many cases not get spooked by an predator
a lot just freeze and duck down or dont move at all
thorny lynx
I wish big dino roars at least did... something. Other than sound scary. Shake your screen a little bit.
That would cause a problem for players in sandbox servers tho
hybrid matrix
also mayn real life Animals in many cases not get spooked by an predator
a lot...
This is sometimes the best option
It means you don't risk being spotted while running, and it lets you see what ur hiding from
urban flax
also mayn real life Animals in many cases not get spooked by an predator
a lot...
Exactly. When I play hypsi and hear a carno roar, I crouch and turn my head to search where it is. And it would be terrible to have some AI do it in my place.
hot inlet
when Animals encounter a predator or hear one /spot one
they mostly hide away
fleeing is the last resort
panicing dont bring you anything
you really have to spook an Animal extremly that it completly panics
and in most cases then even a Rabbit or deer will go on the attack
barren zephyr
Combat just needs a huge rework because it's ither just "I'm 1% bigger than you so I win" or with utahs "there's more of us than u". There needs to be some sort of actual combat with sweet spots and tank spots and grappling
So like basically dinosaur wrestling
hot inlet
So like basically dinosaur wrestling
isnt actually true
you get diffrent dmg from diffrent spots
head/throat hits make more dmg then a hit on the tail
also samll carnos utahs etc shouldnt anyway run around on an open field ,,,
they literally scream kill me
molten siren
Yep
meager tiger
Why doesn't utah raptor use its claws? They are 9 inch length daggers on its feet?
hoary dawn
pounce does not exist
meager tiger
pounce uses it mouth if you look at it
it bites during the animation
i dont see it slashing with its dagger
hell does the model even have dagger feet
paper oriole
It is latched on with its claws
meager tiger
arm claws or feet claws
hoary dawn
the utah model does have a toe claw good sir
meager tiger
well I just feel like biting is what 90% of players do
thats all i ever notice
When I think of utah in the game i just picture it using its mouth
paper oriole
Yeah utah players definitely use their mouth a lot
Bite bite bite bork bork bite bork
Its the easiest thing to do
meager tiger
maybe the claw needs to be a attack
hot inlet
When I think of utah in the game i just picture it using its mouth
when yaour look closely the utah uses the bite and scratch with theyr feet when they pounce something especially when its a pounce that pinnes someone down
meager tiger
a claw would be more effective on large prey?
since you cant put your mouth on a agood angle
paper oriole
If its bite damage was reduced by a good amount and pounce was reworked it would be better honestly
Same with carno but when more small stuff is in
paper oriole
No i mean its special ability
meager tiger
the horns?
paper oriole
Pounce and charge both being special abilities
hot inlet
maybe the claw needs to be a attack
the claws would be way to "fragile"
like the teeth of abertooth cats then use them in direct combat
in real the Raptors (any kind) would probably just pounce a prey item
then use the claw like a dagger and hit the throat
then jump of and wait until the animals bleeds out
so they dont have no worrys of getting hurt themself
meager tiger
like saurpods or the duck billed guys
paper oriole
??? Carno hunting sauropods and hadrosaurs?
feral solstice
Hell no
paper oriole
He’s supposed to be a small game hunter
meager tiger
I meant like a pack
feral solstice
You think a carno could hunt a sauropod or hadrosaur 
paper oriole
No
hot inlet
Carno was a hunter of animals not even half its size
meager tiger
not by itself
paper oriole
Carno pack limit should be reduced when more small game is in
hot inlet
Carno was not even build to hunt anythign big
meager tiger
well i dont see how you can use its horn on tiny prey
your taller
you gonna like bob your head downwards
paper oriole
Not every carni is supposed to be brawling shit
meager tiger
might as well use the mouth
hoary dawn
after a quick test i can confirm that pounce uses the toe claws a bunch
paper oriole
Its horns are mostly decorative, it is using blunt impact
meager tiger
oh
hot inlet
you gonna like bob your head downwards
in game you just can ram things over as Carno
real live Carnos probalby didnt use theyr horns for anythign combat relatet
paper oriole
Ambushing in and ramming small prey to cripple it and then finish it off
paper oriole
Carno should be ambushing with his ram not brawling yeah
Its a surprise attacker who runs in and stuns you before you can get away
feral solstice
It more or less is a quick, close-off-your-escape Dino
paper oriole
People rn use it to brawl because there isnt a lot of small game aside from utahs who are all over the place and the unfortunately apparently common idea that all carnis should hunt everything
feral solstice
When Pachy is introduced, that’s more small game for Carnos
hot inlet
People rn use it to brawl because there isnt a lot of small game aside from utah...
all i have seen so far is Utahs spending 90 % on rocks
or Team (no joke) with Deinos on the pond
hot inlet
When Pachy is introduced, that’s more small game for Carnos
depends a lot of how much a Pachy weights in the end
meager tiger
i still wanna see 2 pachys being able to cripple a carno legs and push him back 5 feet off a cliff if done right lol
feral solstice
depends a lot of how much a Pachy weights in the end
It’s going to weigh less than a Utah afaik
But still
hot inlet
Carnos 1 vs 1 have a bad time agiasnt tenos
now think a critter who can cripple you
feral solstice
Pachys ram will prob break a carnos leg
hot inlet
It’s going to weigh less than a Utah afaik
actually a real life Pachy weight up to a Ton
so two times as much as an utah
feral solstice
feral solstice
Well yeah
meager tiger
atleast a 2v1 you can take turns running in and out
or do a dual ram him off a cliff
feral solstice
But generally if carno fucks up its hunt against a Pachy, that carnos going to be low on stam and the Pachy will ram its leg and run off
meager tiger
yes
feral solstice
A single Pachy will break a carnos leg..
Now if it’s a group of Pachys..
Well
You better NOT FUCK UP THAT HUNT
Dear god
hot inlet
But generally if carno fucks up its hunt against a Pachy, that carnos going to b...
run off ..in real yes
in a game played by humans more like
oh the carno is now slower then me ?
lets kill him
feral solstice
run off ..in real yes
in a game played by humans more like
oh the carno is no...
Remember just because the carno is slow doesn’t mean it can’t alt-turn.
So if that’s the case
It’s suicide to turn back and fight the carno with a fractured leg
Especially if it’s attack damage is I don’t know, 350N
hot inlet
Especially if it’s attack damage is I don’t know, 350N
if maybe Pachy weights a ton or even more
in Legacy it weights 1,3 tonns
feral solstice
Legacy has poor balance
hot inlet
it can demolish a carno then
even the devs said Pachy will not be a pushover
feral solstice
Yeah it won’t be a pushover, but that doesn’t say it’ll demolish a carno
He’s pretty much saying Pachy is something to be cautious about
Mainly due to its fractures
Breaking a bone could cost you your life
Either by being ambushed afterwards or starving
Or dehydrated
hot inlet
probably the most thing that will hapen
randome Deino walkign towards you and kills you
vast wolf
think proto is soft confirmed to get burrows.
hot inlet
like it happens even now sometimes when your just sitting somewhere waiting
vast wolf
getting charged by a pachy as a carno seems like death if your not full on hunger.
maybe not death but a major pain.
meager tiger
@barren zephyr make a it a bit bigger and make the knobs a little more jagged. it just looks too smooth and small. Maybe that model could be the female instead?
are they fr adding shit in the game
vast wolf
what are you talking about?
vast wolf
brachi hasent said anything in a day.
vast wolf
so I suggest thats the female model
if your talking about the saurian one then thats what anky looked like
^that is cursed
meager tiger
yeah that looks too wimpy
vast wolf
that is the anky we are getting
hot inlet
yeah that looks too wimpy
wel lthat what the real animal was
meager tiger
spinosaur in the game is edited to be more mean looking
vast wolf
meager tiger
even though its only like 50% correct nowadays
all im asking is for slighty jagged knobs and some jagged horn things
and for it to be a tad bigger
vast wolf
that is a terrible size chart.
hot inlet
your asking for zuul or saichania
or the jurassic world Anky
vast wolf
or the jurassic world Anky
^
vast wolf
we dont need a glorified trilobite for an anky.
meager tiger
which is cool
vast wolf
our spino looks like trash.
meager tiger
well you want a waddle penguin croc modern spino
vast wolf
wimpy wimpy wimpy.
swift dew
wimpy wimpy wimpy.
fucking disgusting
meager tiger
like a fish
vast wolf
it has a sub rex sull in its face and its sail is tiny.
hot inlet
Yeah jurraris anky
jurassic park anky dont have anythign to do with the real thing no jP dino have
meager tiger
because thats a real spino
vast wolf
because thats a real spino
swift dew
we could have gotten this
vast wolf
meager tiger
is the modern new spino
vast wolf
actually visually appealing spino.
hot inlet
because thats a real spino
why not lol
swift dew
wimpy wimpy wimpy.
but no. we got this stupid fucker
meager tiger
wait you all want a fish croc spino
i thought yall like monster spino
that chases things in the forest
vast wolf
also our spinos color pallete is trash.
hot inlet
that chases things in the forest
for this we have rex,char ,,acro etc
swift dew
#general-feedback-discussion message
I want this, the perfect blend of accurate and monster without looking like dumb
vast wolf
carchar is such a stupid addition if it ends up being its own playable.
taps spino is golden.
meager tiger
so if you are allowed monster spino, why is my suggestion of making anky a bit biger with sharp blunt spike knobs a ludicrious idea
meager tiger
why cant we have both
meager tiger
Piggy wants monster parts
vast wolf
hot inlet
carchar is such a stupid addition if it ends up being its own playable.
maybe get rid of Acro and replace it with charc ,,,, both dont really fit
swift dew
I mean, I would prefer everything be perfectly accurate, but that would mean alot of the creatures become unviable
swift dew
maybe get rid of Acro and replace it with charc ,,,, both dont really fit
acro has more place than carchar
vast wolf
maybe get rid of Acro and replace it with charc ,,,, both dont really fit
acro is the og and a devpick. carch is a carbon coppy of giga.
swift dew
carchar is giga but ever so slightly smaller and a slightly different head shape
meager tiger
if anky is that smooth and the knobs are that far apart/small how is it gonna take a trex chomp on its back like its suppose to
vast wolf
id rather we have semi realistic designs that are still styleized but look recognizable.
vast wolf
if anky is that smooth and the knobs are that far apart/small how is it gonna ta...
by being wide so the teeth cant even get through the skin.
hot inlet
if anky is that smooth and the knobs are that far apart/small how is it gonna ta...
so how some woodlice and armadillos battle predators (not the rollign in a ball part) but its hard to bite somethign smooth
compact hare
The game is not supposed to be that realistic 
I dont like our anky too but I doubt they will change their design now...
vast wolf
our anky has spikes on the base of its tail that are super exagerated. they are perfect for keeping a predator from biting its leg muscles.
meager tiger
are the devs really adding shit and piss?
hot inlet
at least this thing is getting redone.
it somehow remidns me of an Heron ... XD
vast wolf
when i saw austro i thought it was a strain.
meager tiger
giggle chicken
vast wolf
think they were going for a heron style design but it looks like a chimera thats missing bones.
meager tiger
How many giggle chickens to defeat a Duckzilla
hot inlet
i think its funny how this guy gets the its a "semi-quatic /water dino in legacy
but Cerato who have even more stuff going on living near water dont XD
vast wolf
austro was planned to be a fisher for a long time.
cerato might get a slightly above average swim speed in evrima.
cerato wont be diving with stamina though.
hot inlet
austro was planned to be a fisher for a long time.
i mean theyr are a few fossil finds of microraptor with fish inside the stomach ,,, but that dont make it a fisher or aqatic XD
vast wolf
i mean theyr are a few fossil finds of microraptor with fish inside the stomach ...
think thats because it fell on some fish and suffocated them in the anoxic lakes.
nvm thats archa
interesting if its microraptor.
hot inlet
i would actually like if they made Cerato the one dino to "battle" the crocs
like real Cerato ate Crocodiles and Cerato sitn that small
when thinking that Evrima Deino is way to heavy
real it was only a bit over 3 tonns
honest sparrow
Cerato would get clapped by anything that isn’t a juvi
hot inlet
Cerato would get clapped by anything that isn’t a juvi
nope in Legacy yes in Evrima not anymore
hot inlet
In terms of deino anyway
when you look at Ceratos concept art you have him hunt a Deino just lsightly smaller then himself
even a Carno can now clap an Adult Deino if you know how
hot inlet
Cerato will be probalby way more dmg output then Carno but slower
vast wolf
if you want pop control for deino add sucho as it could take 3 ton deinos.
honest sparrow
Also Cera weighs less so it will be able to get grabbed earlier
vast wolf
i hope they fix the stamina drain on deinos lunge.
a utah drains the same stamina as teno and carno.
hot inlet
Also Cera weighs less so it will be able to get grabbed earlier
you could simply make animals even waying less unable to get grabbed at all
honest sparrow
Deino’s entire gameplay revolves around grabs
And Cera has nothing that would make sense for it not to get grabbed
vast wolf
something like diablo or kentro are some of the only things i can see being immune to grabs on parts of their body.
vast wolf
dont grab a diablo by the face or you get horns through your mouth. dont try grabbing kentro unless you have a perfect head shot or belly shot as you will get spiked.
hot inlet
cause animals who huntet or Hunt Crocodiles even today have generall a defens agaisnt the grab
Jaguars can even swim up to a same size Caiman and kill it
vast wolf
any deino that can grab cera is not around its size
honest sparrow
That is different than something like cera
Like I believe you have to be half the weight to get grabbed
How fat is cera again
honest sparrow
And how much does our deino weigh
honest sparrow
So the deino would have to be like a bit over 25% or something like that if it’s half the weight you can hrab
honest sparrow
Hmm
vast wolf
you go from like 4-5 tons to 8 tons in the last 20% or so
honest sparrow
Deino would only need to be around 2 tons to do so
vast wolf
if its 2x for the grab
it might be 3x as deino needs to be decently grown to grab carno
vast wolf
think its 2.5-3x for a grab
hot inlet
in the end we wil lse wehat the devs have planed in this
cause a lot of the animals have skills and stuff the real animal dont had
vast wolf
as you need to be at least 1.5 tons to grab utah.
hot inlet
like climbing for herrera or mimicing for troodon
honest sparrow
Well our Utah weighs almost a ton
hot inlet
utah is only 500 kg
vast wolf
half ton weight
vast wolf
ive been told its 3x i think
honest sparrow
Even then a deino who’s lunging at that size means Cera has little chance of escape
cyan flame
3x? Since when?
honest sparrow
As I don’t see it wriggling out of a 3 ton deino
hot inlet
the thing that anyway no matter what should be addet is
that Dinos actually can "buck" if grabbed
vast wolf
you should be able to fight back to drain more stam when grabbed/pinned
paper oriole
They shouldnt let people keep sound while minimized because it encourages afk
Literally caters to people who tab out and watch youtube
kindred flare
think its 2.5-3x for a grab
its still 2x, so you need to be 3.6 tonnes t grab carno
vast wolf
gotta love getting naseous from having your camera in a dinos face.
tidal fjord
Why is so many crying about the possibility of Dino poop in the game.... animals poop, wtf.
Blood and gore is fine but excrement is where we draw the line? XD
paper oriole
Because its unnecessary
tidal fjord
Ark has poop in the game, so does Red Dead Redemption 2 and I don't remember anyone complaining in those communities.
paper oriole
The game would look weird af without the blood and gore but it is perfectly fine without shit
tidal fjord
Well weird is very subjective... if biting and animal and it not bleeding is weird, then an animal eating and then not pooping is quite weird if u ask me.
paper oriole
We get enough info on a dino from its foot tracks and large groups also make scent clouds
tidal fjord
Well it could be a way to tell if the animal your tracking is a carni or herbi
vale pawn
We are un worthy of such a godly addition
paper oriole
No its not weird to not have shit unless youre super picky and need super realism
I dont want ark type shit especially
paper oriole
There is absolutely 0 reason for an animation and sound
honest sparrow
We already get info from footprints
paper oriole
Do you yourself shit in red dead?
tidal fjord
Makes the game more impressive
honest sparrow
Impressive
paper oriole
Lmao
paper oriole
Woah my dino took a dump i am so impressed
honest sparrow
Yeah I find taking a fat shit in the jungle impressive
barren zephyr
I love how everyone hated the idea of poop when the devs didn’t confirm it, but once they did a huge portion of the playerbase like it now.
honest sparrow
I love how everyone hated the idea of poop when the devs didn’t confirm it, but ...
The horde was alerted
tidal fjord
It's not about it being impressive... Jesus, it's just a cool addition... like chill out.
paper oriole
People think theyll get brownie points for backing the devs or something, no pun intended
Or is it even a pun... hmm
Anyway its an unnecessary mechanic
hasty dagger
But muh pooo
honest sparrow
Every tracking aspect is already accessible via footprints, group scent, and bleed, as well as any others that can be added in less revolting ways
paper oriole
They showed a carno scraping a tree in concept so stuff like that can be used to mark areas instead of piss too
honest sparrow
Goddamit I’m starting to think I live in an illumination movie
paper oriole
Drinking and eating actually has meaning as a mechanic
tidal fjord
Really now?
honest sparrow
Yes
paper oriole
Yeah its survival
paper oriole
Taking a shite in the woods has no meaning as a mechanic
tidal fjord
Where does the stuff u just eat go again?
honest sparrow
The void
tidal fjord
Go play Minecraft
honest sparrow
It’s very easy to just not have it in the game
barren zephyr
Just don’t add it-problem solved 
tidal fjord
Just add it, problem solved
paper oriole
Who actually stops and thinks while playing their dino sim “wow this game isnt immersive enough because im not dropping some fat deuces after eating a bush, time to refund”
Like just dont think about it
tidal fjord
No-one
paper oriole
Its not hard
tidal fjord
But it's the little things that add up u simpleton... I'm done.
honest sparrow
I mean what if like every game that had food of some sort added shit
honest sparrow
Or since when you die, you shit, every game where you die should add shit
hasty dagger
Fruit ninja is in desperate need of a poop mechanic, where does the fruit go?
honest sparrow
Lmao
barren zephyr
I just don’t understand why everyone likes it all the sudden
tidal fjord
That's the second time u made that joke
honest sparrow
I like to think they just come out of the woodwork
tidal fjord
If u could call it that
paper oriole
Its not a joke its the reason
barren zephyr
That’s literally the reason
paper oriole
Some people will agree with anything the devs do
barren zephyr
they literally only like the pooping mechanic just because the devs like it and they want to feel “different”
honest sparrow
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that as soon as people start supporting poop, cum and mating anim suggestions start showing up
barren zephyr
god no.
paper oriole
Exactly
silver zephyr
I don’t think it’s a coincidence that as soon as people start supporting poop, c...
wait what
paper oriole
Theres a hidden little community of degenerates
silver zephyr
tidal fjord
Yeah no, it's impossible for people to just genuinely have a different opinion on the matter... now do you realise why I called u a simpleton.
honest sparrow
Multiple people
paper oriole
Give these people an inch and they want a mile
barren zephyr
“Mute everyone that complains about the poop”
honest sparrow
My favorite part of this whole scenario
barren zephyr
asking to be laughed at
paper oriole
lol i like how someone was like “stop complaining about poop” and right after theres people complaining about poop
tidal fjord
Get over yourselves.... animals leave scat -_-
paper oriole
Animals also randomly catch diseases and die should we add that
vale pawn
minecraft piss update
paper oriole
They do it from performing everyday activity so it is
A mosquito can bite you irl and give you a fucked up disease if youre unlucky
honest sparrow
Catching illness is essentially just chance
hot inlet
this whole stuff reminds me of this one scene of Walking with beast
where a hyenodon killed a colicotherium and then entelodons showed up
and the hyenodon shits on the carcass to hide its scent XDD
tidal fjord
How the heck is that random?
paper oriole
How is it not?
honest sparrow
Because if you get bit by a mosquito
You have a chance
A chance implies randomness
How is this so hard to grasp
tidal fjord
So you would call a tiger hunting u random?
paper oriole
No
tidal fjord
Hahaha
honest sparrow
What
tidal fjord
Mosquito = tiny tiger
honest sparrow
How does that make literally any sense in the situation whatsoever
hot inlet
We especially dont need aimable shit like that
meet the penugins who use shit to fight of Vampire bats XD
its reality
dont get me wronge im not a big fan of this ides (pooping/peeing)
but well
paper oriole
I know animals do weird shit with shit irl but we dont need it in a dino pvp survival sim lol
honest sparrow
Idk man
I personally can suspend my disbelief to just not care if my animals shits and pisses or not
paper oriole
Yeah its easy to not think about it if your mind isnt in bad places
paper oriole
Im not losing immersion because of it
honest sparrow
I took a shit
hoary dawn
make every playable take years to grow so my immersion remains unbroken
silver zephyr
nah poop adds a lot, other animals can smell your poop to find out your health, gender, species, size, location, and ip adress
vale pawn
dont forget credit card information
tidal fjord
I don't know why u would go out of your way to stop such a mechanic... irl, hunters use scat and tracks to track down animals... so it adds something. Also some animals use pee pee to mark territory (there's a possible new mechanic).
hoary dawn
there are less gross ways to do both of those things
honest sparrow
nah poop adds a lot, other animals can smell your poop to find out your health, ...
That’s so much info for something you can’t control and drop on a regular basis
Why
silver zephyr
because we desperately need to give poop a reason to be added
hasty dagger
honest sparrow
I don't know why u would go out of your way to stop such a mechanic... irl, hunt...
We already have footsteps
vale pawn
honest sparrow
And territory marking is something that isn’t planned and could be done without pissing
tidal fjord
So u didn't read my entire comment... love it.
silver zephyr
like poop and pee is fine or whatever on paper, until you realize there are many other ways to achieve what it does
hasty dagger
Agree, you can’t deny that it has it’s purposes, but you can do things like that without actually adding gross shit.
hot inlet
now bigger question did dinosaurs even ,,,well peed ?
birds ,reptiles and so one not really pee ...
XD
tidal fjord
When red dead came out and I saw my horse drop a bucket of shit, I never once thought... that's unnecessary, why did the devs add that. PEOPLE -_-
paper oriole
Wasnt red dead going tryhard for realism
hoary dawn
i'm sure the majority of people would prefer you just leave some scent on plants you brush up against instead of taking a shit every so often, and it could be expanded upon so you have to take care of your dinosaur by cleaning in water and taking dust baths to lower your scent
foggy imp
Pooping is bush camping prevention tho
hoary dawn
red dead had shrinking horse balls, they were definitely going for hyper realism
hasty dagger
I’m sorry what?
paper oriole
Oh god i remember reading about that
hoary dawn
Pooping is bush camping prevention tho
diets
silver zephyr
Pooping is bush camping prevention tho
diets moment, also literally the day poop was announced punch talked about potentially creatures gaining body odor if they dont wash off enough
tidal fjord
If you think red dead is hyper realistic then I don't know what else to say to you xD
foggy imp
Whats wrong with multiple reinforcing mechanics to achieve the same thing?
hasty dagger
They’re redundant and one is gross
tidal fjord
They went for detail... there's a big difference.
paper oriole
No i mean they went through effort to add hyperrealistic details
silver zephyr
we dont need poop, pee, diets, and body odor
hasty dagger
Waste of resources
hoary dawn
They went for detail... there's a big difference.
realistic, unnecessary, detail
paper oriole
Body odor for AFKers could work but the rest is unneeded
quiet estuary
Whats wrong with multiple reinforcing mechanics to achieve the same thing?
You can do that without adding people have been against for ages now
late flower
there's gotta be an odour for afkers who sit still all day growing
quiet estuary
and is visibly disgusting
tidal fjord
Which adds to the immersion... I mean the devs of Red Dead thought it was a good idea but then what do they know about immersion, we just need to listen to u.
foggy imp
Lol whats disgusting about poop? Its literally everywhere. Like have you been in a forest ever?
quiet estuary
Visibly seeing something shit is not something I wish to look at
hasty dagger
Just because it’s everywhere doesn’t mean it isn’t disgusting to most people?
paper oriole
Ark shit isnt immersive
silver zephyr
something occurs a lot = cant be a certain thing
paper oriole
So why would it be immersive in the isle
tidal fjord
Doesn't have to be a long and painful animation lmao, it could just be a quick drop.
quiet estuary
Does it need to be an animation at all
hasty dagger
Damn, my Dino didn’t take a fat load in the forest.. immersion broken smh
quiet estuary
Does it need to be added at all when other mechanics
Which dont even need animations can do similar things