general-feedback-discussion

[hybrid matrix]

yeah it needs a long growth time but 8 hours is tiny for something that big

[candid fiber]

Maybe it is.

[hybrid matrix]

15 hours minimum

no its not

[paper oriole]

honestly it depends how they balance it

[hybrid matrix]

stego is 5 hours in game and its tiny compared to brachi

[hoary dawn]

brachi is basically immortal once it reaches sub

it should be a commitment to get one

[hybrid matrix]

yeah, if each growth stage takes 25% of the total growth

however, hatch-juvie and juvie-sub should only take up 25% of brachis growth, making the majority of its growth sub-adult and adult-full adult

[hoary dawn]

yes

[hybrid matrix]

again, 15 hours is a minimum

[barren zephyr]

it’s pretty huge

[hybrid matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-wheeze-meme-laugh-laughing-gif-21074028

[hoary dawn]

its the biggest thing coming to the game

if the brachi is bad and the gigas are really good

[barren zephyr]

sweatdrop

[hybrid matrix]

yeah, 3 giant seven ton animals

[barren zephyr]

a semi decent brachi should be able to survive pretty much everything

[hybrid matrix]

max growth time for brachi should be 24 hours

i mean that as the maximum base growth time

[barren zephyr]

unless it’s like a strain

[hybrid matrix]

not including diets

[hoary dawn]

on bad diet and low activity 24 hour brachi yes

[paper oriole]

giga will probably take like 7 hours too so if it theoretically takes a full giga pack to down 1 average brachi it shouldnt just be 8 hours

[hybrid matrix]

again, i mean this as the longest possible base growth time

[hoary dawn]

24 if you play lazy

[paper oriole]

24 is a good punishment for any AFKpex honestly

[barren zephyr]

24 hours to get mauled by a hyper rex

[paper oriole]

even the single digit growth ones

[hybrid matrix]

im trying to create a range of possible base growths for brachi

low end is 15 hrs, and high end is 24

[barren zephyr]

9 hours if you follow your diet correctly

[hoary dawn]

no

[barren zephyr]

maybe a bit higher

[paper oriole]

10hr growth if you do everything right, 15hr average, 24hour if you're a fucking idiot

[hybrid matrix]

10.5 seems fairer imo

[barren zephyr]

10 is not teeny

[hybrid matrix]

bro
ur the one who just said 15 hours is too long

[barren zephyr]

that’s a huge chunk of your day wasted on the isle

[paper oriole]

if you follow your diet on point while also surviving the heaps of predators its fair

[hybrid matrix]

#general-feedback-discussion message

[barren zephyr]

Brachi shouldn’t be unbearably long since it’s nowhere near invincible, but it should still take pretty long because it’s a brachi

[hybrid matrix]

i say 15 hour base growth, 10.5 hr if u follor ur diet perfectly, and 24 hr if ur a diehard legacy apex growing fan that wants to suffer

[barren zephyr]

longer without diets

[hybrid matrix]

a full day seems fair if u dont follow ur dietg

[barren zephyr]

why play brachi when you can play cama anyways

[hybrid matrix]

bigger giarfe

girfafe*

girafef*

[barren zephyr]

takes less time to grow too

[hybrid matrix]

GIRAfEFE**

[uneven wigeon]

girafapotomus

[hybrid matrix]

FUCKKK

[barren zephyr]

Having a hard time there derp?

[paper oriole]

girafarig

[hybrid matrix]

NO!
yes :(

[barren zephyr]

[paper oriole]

...

[hybrid matrix]

ima be poppin in and out btw

[barren zephyr]

[hybrid matrix]

i thought we decided on brachi growth

[paper oriole]

10-10.5 is fair for people who follow their diet perfect

[barren zephyr]

[paper oriole]

lmao really

holy shit

[hybrid matrix]

4 hours is way too much for magy

[barren zephyr]

magy shouldn’t even be 2

[hybrid matrix]

magy is teno-sized

[paper oriole]

do you know how small magy is

[hybrid matrix]

no wait

smaller than teno

[barren zephyr]

Cera sized

[hybrid matrix]

its like half the mass of a teno

[paper oriole]

it's barely taller than cerato

[barren zephyr]

thanks

magy should be around the same as teno growth wise

[hybrid matrix]

magy should have teno growth time

yeah

nmo

no

[paper oriole]

honestly magy should just spawn in as a gorepile

[hybrid matrix]

NO NO NO

I DIDNT AGREE TO THIS

[hybrid matrix]

yes

[barren zephyr]

Magy should just get deleted and replace it with presto

[hybrid matrix]

no

[hybrid matrix]

or amarga
or shuno
or bajada

[paper oriole]

bajada would be so much better than magy

[keen reef]

So what are we sussy bakas talking about?

[barren zephyr]

growth times

[keen reef]

Man I've been saying that for months on end

[paper oriole]

why do you want magy

[barren zephyr]

Magy is lame

[hybrid matrix]

im interested to see what they do with magy

[paper oriole]

it doesnt go zoom

well, zooming to its death maybe

[hybrid matrix]

since at face value it has literally nothing going for it

[keen reef]

Magy is literally 4Skin and Bajada is neat little spikey boy like which is better

[paper oriole]

bajada could use his spikes to turn pouncing utahs into chicken kebabs

[barren zephyr]

Can’t wait for carno to absolutely maul magy to death

[paper oriole]

it was shown throwing a troodon which is like a fraction of the size of utah

[keen reef]

Well you know what they usually do if they can't make something viable

🌊

[barren zephyr]

Carno

[paper oriole]

allo's run reel was faster than magy

allo is going to fucking destroy magy

[keen reef]

Yeah but it will defend itself and that's all we want from a Sauro

[hoary dawn]

in like 2 years when they finally get to adding allo

[paper oriole]

there was a trend in concepts where troodon was getting his ass beat

[keen reef]

Man if you want to run from predators play dryo or Galli tf

[hoary dawn]

racism

[paper oriole]

yeah def troodon

[keen reef]

Dino racism

[barren zephyr]

guys! magy pushed cera over! this means it’s op!!!!

[paper oriole]

i like how magy pushes cera over and then cera fucking decapitates magy in its concept

[keen reef]

Pog it should 1 shot rex too

[barren zephyr]

^

Although magy may suck I’m still going to play it

[paper oriole]

me when magy gets added

[barren zephyr]

[keen reef]

I generally hope that if an apex runs into anky it'll trip over and break its leg

[hoary dawn]

magy is cool and im gonna play it no matter how unbalanced it is shut up shut up shut up

[keen reef]

Fuck trex

[barren zephyr]

scam

[keen reef]

I imagine the baby tenonto call with that juvis face

[barren zephyr]

still waiting for pachy

[paper oriole]

the snack that smiles back

[keen reef]

Won't get added till they finish Diets and fractures because we can go fuck ourselves 💯 👍

[hoary dawn]

smiled

past tense

[paper oriole]

true that fit more

because magy will become past tense minutes after spawnign anyway

[barren zephyr]

Ark: Survival Evolved

[keen reef]

Smiled back when it's only predator was a big bird, now it's an entire Jurassic Park sequel

[hoary dawn]

make magy immune to the spawn timers so it can zerg anything it wants

[barren zephyr]

Make magy immune to everything because-

[paper oriole]

i love how magy went extinct so fast when a landbridge opened to its little safe space island irl but they think it's a good idea to put it on an island full of mutant killing machines

[barren zephyr]

why was magy even thought of….

[paper oriole]

i bet they googled dwarf sauropod and just picked the first resut

[hybrid matrix]

kissen wanted it

[paper oriole]

damn i can't type today

[hybrid matrix]

mira

mira

mira

wtf

magy

is the only thing that comes up

when u search

dwarf sauropod

[paper oriole]

How magy was chosen

[barren zephyr]

wow! Interesting Dino! I hope it doesn’t completely fall flat on it’s face!

[barren zephyr]

[paper oriole]

ded

[barren zephyr]

chat xd

[keen reef]

Damn, sounds like a certain land predator beginning with A

[barren zephyr]

A

[hybrid matrix]

L

[keen reef]

E

[hybrid matrix]

[paper oriole]

It's dinner

[hoary dawn]

anthomnia

youre

[paper oriole]

Any theropod over 2 tons when it sees magy: “off with his head!”

[keen reef]

*your'e

[keen reef]

anthomnia anthomnia

[hoary dawn]

his full name

[keen reef]

I killed a Utah as dryo and that means they should buff Utah

[paper oriole]

Make utah immune to damage

[barren zephyr]

Anthomnia the non clickbaiter

[keen reef]

Anthomnia is a master baiter

[barren zephyr]

[keen reef]

I like you already Jenna

[zinc rivet]

have you considered spreading your growths out over multiple sessions instead of wasting so much of your day just sitting there for one thing.

Jus try growing a Deino or Stego over two 2 and a half hour sessions across a day or two instead of 5 hours straight, it's so much comfier

I've been doing it allot lately even for the smaller guys it's so much nicer

Carno I'll do a bit in the morning and finish him off later at night

Teno and Utah can get grown in about 1 session tho

[keen reef]

Yeah lmao man even had a Croc helping it was pretty funny

[zinc rivet]

Steg and Deino you definitely should try growin over multiple sessions tho

it's so much nicer

[keen reef]

Oh definitely, in fact I feel like the final hit wasn't me but actually mightve been friendly fire from the croc on accident, though I'll need to check

[barren zephyr]

no I must grow

[keen reef]

I think it bit the same time I hit the Utah, I heard a car door shot that's for sure

Yeah it was huge

[zinc rivet]

u will still grow, u'll just also be able to actually have fun

[keen reef]

Ez game

[barren zephyr]

I personally just like to get it over with and just do it in one setting when I have time

[zinc rivet]

i recommend at least trying it and see how it feels

[barren zephyr]

I guess I could try

[zinc rivet]

i'm feeling like apexes are actually intended to be grown over multiple sessions tbh

[keen reef]

I don't even think it tried to pounce me, I don't even know if it knew how to

[zinc rivet]

seeing as how punishing it is to spend your entire day growing one only to die partway thru

if u did it over multiple sessions you arent wasting your whole day for nothin yet still workin towards it

[keen reef]

That's why I play the Isle for 5 minutes at a time, don't want to lose my dryo in one playsession

[zinc rivet]

i take four sessions at minimum to grow a dryo

it's just so much effort

[keen reef]

Cringe I take 6

Then I play for a minute at a time to preserve it

[zinc rivet]

smart,,,

[molten tulip]

Also you may have logged in during just a crappy unlucky time

[zinc rivet]

DID HE ACTUALLY

OML

if i was that utah i wouldnt even be mad

+999 respect to that dryo

[keen reef]

The health and damage difference between fresh and full is insane but still good job, mine took longer and involved a lot of hiding considering you know, 2 shot

I was scared but I did it, kinda wanna do it again

[barren zephyr]

The isle

[keen reef]

I killed a full adult Carno as dryo lol

I mean it was afk but that's besides the point

Actually, I did come kinda close

[zinc rivet]

hjkldsfhsfdjk

[barren zephyr]

Dryo is just simply amazing, it can just tear through sub utahs

[keen reef]

I fought another one later and I think from purely damage values I did about half damage before a bad hit box got me

[keen reef]

But it can also get pinned by them now cause cringe juvi pounce

[zinc rivet]

buck

smh

[keen reef]

Like roughly 11 but I can check and find out, I think it was damaged before hand

[keen reef]

It gets pinned, it's too heavy

[zinc rivet]

I said.

buck.

[keen reef]

Who's Joe?

[uneven wigeon]

Joe Mama

[keen reef]

Exactly

Still decent considering I'm 1 shot body shot lol, I'll take it

Dryo should be like 250kg and you can never change my mind

[zinc rivet]

many animals do tbh, animations could be better

[uneven wigeon]

All the extra weight comes from it's blockhead

[keen reef]

Well as a dryo main my opinion is better by default

I'm joking I don't main dryo, I main SAUSAGE

[zinc rivet]

did u not read his name smh

[keen reef]

It uses to be dio and not dryo and I didn't read the rest of it cause my brain filled the blanks

Nani?

[hoary dawn]

@lofty pagoda

[uneven wigeon]

They all play this game

ThatOnePuffinDude

[keen reef]

Man I'm dead

Anyways back to the topic at hand, yeah the weight needs an increase

It's kinda dumb that rat raptor pins it to the floor so early

Pretty cringe if you ask me

Pinning needs either a way to deal damage back or struggle

[uneven wigeon]

Roll and bunny kick

I'm not a fan of the juvie pin either, I like playing Dryo and that's just another reason to not play besides Stegos just KOSing you.

[keen reef]

Juvi pounce as a mechanic needs to be rethought

Bleed numbers and damage are still noticeable and can be game changers for bigger targets like stego and Teno when multiple juvis stack

[boreal atlas]

Hello does anyone know if the game will come to consoles ; and if not what pc do you need to run it

[hybrid matrix]

do u have steam on ur pc?

hello?

[boreal atlas]

Not anymore

But i can download it tomorrow

[hybrid matrix]

ok

well

specs

[boreal atlas]

Ok thank you very much

[hybrid matrix]

yw

[boreal atlas]

Do you know if this game will come on console too;

[hybrid matrix]

probably not, but it does have partial controller support
u can plug ur controller in to ur computer and it'll work

[boreal atlas]

Ok thank you very much !

[hybrid matrix]

yw

[barren zephyr]

that's for Legacy

a lot of the old 900s don't work anymore for Evrima

[barren zephyr]

@barren zephyr

cama shorter then stego?

stego only has 2000 more HP then teno, would cama only have like 1000 more HP then teno?

also isnt cama 18 tons? Stego is only 5

a lot of the suggestions are wild

like carno/cerato 3 hours? They aren’t even 2 tons!

they aren’t even mid tiers!

also teno longer then maia? Maia is 3 tons heavier

[feral solstice]

Yeah the suggestion is jacked

[barren zephyr]

also kentro/diablo lower then teno?

Don’t both of them have massive spikes?

Making them much harder to kill then teno

para the same growth as teno when its 4 tons heavier???

if anky is pretty much the same growth as cerato/carno, they must be apexes.

carno is like….. 1.8 tons… its even worse with cerato, who’s 1 ton.

[worn pumice]

Wow those times r so jacked

[barren zephyr]

Cera isn’t even that strong to begin with, giving it a growth time like that would be

[worn pumice]

Magy 2 hours

[barren zephyr]

can’t wait to grow this magy for 2 hours just to get bodied

[worn pumice]

Bruh

4.5 hours for cama

Lmao

[barren zephyr]

cama should be like 8-9.5 hours

With a good diet

[sonic mural]

@barren zephyr for no reason should a carno or cerato have that long of a growth time😂 they should only have at least 1 hr and 45 minutes - 2 hr and 15 minute growth time somewhere in the middle of that time

[honest sparrow]

15 hour brachi or bu

[worn pumice]

Carno and cera aren’t even mid tier lol

[sonic mural]

Oof

[worn pumice]

2.5 hours should be the limit for pseudo mids honestly

[zinc rivet]

@barren zephyr these growth suggestions are batshit tbh

[swift dew]

@barren zephyr sorry, I was going to continue the conversation but I was cut short, would you like to explain your thought process, especially for stego in relation to the other creatures

[worn pumice]

Ok but like cama is 30 minutes shorter to grow then stego lmao

Growths times r just rly poor

Wow

Trike is 4 hours

Anky is 3.5 hours wow

These growths just got so much worse

[vale pawn]

1 hour ovi

[worn pumice]

Theri 2 hours and 35 minutes

[zinc rivet]

Stego and Brachi being the same growth and Cama being shorter than Stego lets you know this person doesn't actually know wtf theyre talking about

[vast wolf]

theres only a handfull of those growth times i agree with at all and most of them are absolute garbage.

this is what i guessed for the growth times

thats just herbivores and i did not include tacco or oro. those two would be around hypsi/homalo growth.

[swift dew]

#general-feedback-discussion message

this is my list for herbi/omni growth times

[swift dew]

those times are pretty good except it only acounts for the size of the creature, not weapons, or whether they prefer to run or not

for example, while kentro is only half the size of allo, it should still be able to fight it

or maia which is almost twice as heavy as teno, but prefers to run and doesn't have much combat capability

[vast wolf]

pachy, ava, minmi, diablo and kentro take way too long
maia, para, trike, shant and brachi are too short

in that case why do trike and shant take only 6 hours?

[swift dew]

because im not trying to make growing dinos a chore, I want them to be hard, not tedious

[vast wolf]

pachy is utah sized and not much scarrier.

yet you have two 1.2 ton animals taking as long as a 5 ton one.

kentro and diablo 1.2 tons and para is 5 tons.

even if they can fight off larger animals that dosent mean anything if they take a long time to grow.

also ava and pacy are both pretty small and should be close to galli and utah reguardless.

also how in your right mind are you making minmi an hour when it has little offensive capabilites against anything larger than herrera.

[swift dew]

again, you have to look at weapons and combat capability, these are roughly the growth times of what I want. para is like maia, can shrug of a good amount of damage but prefers to run away. compared to dibble and kentro which both fight, yes dibble and kentro might be a bit too long. but the shouldn't be too short either

[honest sparrow]

Minmi is fine at an hour for me

[swift dew]

also this

[paper oriole]

Cheirus taking longer than shant

[vast wolf]

^

shant is 11 fucking tons

[swift dew]

because its an omnivore, that is the only reason

[vast wolf]

then why isnt galli 3 hours

by that logic

[swift dew]

because galli can't fight jack shit

[vast wolf]

neither can minmi

[paper oriole]

It will basically live like an herbi probably tho

Fishing and eating plant

It will be too slow to catch most dinos it can eat

[vast wolf]

and ava is extremely limited in what it can fight.

cherius is probably going to be a nightmare to keep up with in terms of diets.

[swift dew]

ava being bigger than pachy moment

[vast wolf]

ava also not being able to deal with anything outside its own tier moment.

[honest sparrow]

It should be able to swallow them tho

[paper oriole]

It isnt a high impact on the ecosystem as an omni since most of its protein will be sourced from AI fish

[honest sparrow]

Also cheirus taking longer than shant is cursed

[paper oriole]

Yeah thats what i mean, all the tinies will probably be too fast for cheirus to chase

[vast wolf]

cherius will probably eat aquatic plants, tall bushes/trees and fish.

mira you can agree my list is decent

[paper oriole]

Which list was yours again

[vast wolf]

if anything id bump up the trike shant camma and brahi another hour or two.

[honest sparrow]

Both lists have their own merits, altho I agree more with gharial’s

[vast wolf]

#general-feedback-discussion message

[paper oriole]

Yeah that list is pretty good

[vast wolf]

trike could be 7.5
shant could be 8.2
camma could be 8.75
brachi could be 12

those are min/max ranges for them as those are the ones that will probably be very hard to take down.

[swift dew]

I mean everyone thinks that shant is a crazy fighter even though I see absolutly zero weapons on the thing. just because your big doesn't mean your a good fighter, untill you get like 4 times the size of something

[vast wolf]

the idea i had with brachi was that it grows to 70% growth rapidly but then takes forever to grow the last 30%

[honest sparrow]

Shant when it can literally stomp your organs out

[vast wolf]

and during the time itsstill growing gigas and raxes could take it down if they are smart.

[paper oriole]

Depending on what the growths for rex and giga will be i'd personally want herbivore counterparts to have a bit shorter growth, across the board for the most part since they’re the much less popular factions, like only a 15-40m difference probably

[vast wolf]

shant is big enough to just push you over and step on you.

[honest sparrow]

It doesn’t really need weapons

It’s just fucking huge

[vast wolf]

trike should be like 30-60 minutes less than rex.

probably more like 30 less

as its not legacy trike with 350 damage on its horns.

[honest sparrow]

Really depends on how the balance trike

[paper oriole]

Maybe yeah, it is actually not a huge hit on the ecosystem with how slow it is if its discouraged from mix herds by diet

[honest sparrow]

Because funni brick wall playable

[swift dew]

if a guy with a machete and a sumo wrestler who weighs twice the weight of the guy with a machete fought, I would have my money on the guy with a machete. I dont give a shit that the sumo guy is twice as heavy because WEAPONS.

[steep warren]

@patent mango Wrong Chat

[honest sparrow]

Yeah but in this scenario the sumo wrestler is a unit who takes it, and then knocks over and crushes the windpipe of the guy with a machete

[swift dew]

[paper oriole]

All I hope is that these big herbivores are worth their grow time and dont play out like current stego lol

[honest sparrow]

[swift dew]

but the problem here is you want trike to be this long, but then you also want rex to be 30 minutes to an hour longer. im trying to play a game here not a chore, If i wanted a chore I would go to my grandmother. make times shorter but make growing hard.

[vast wolf]

nothing here should take more than an hour to grow if you keep up with your diet except utah

[paper oriole]

The growth could be shortened by following diets and properly caring for your dino though right

[swift dew]

yeah, obviously

[paper oriole]

That would just be the base

[vast wolf]

yet you want psuedo mids and small tier dinos to take longer to grow than some mid tiers.

why tf do diablo and kentro take twice as long as maia to grow

[fiery wraith]

I think i need to stop playing this game for a while because of the lag and hit detection. It's so frustrating. Like this game right now is a dino fighting game at its core and this is unplayable as that.

[swift dew]

can a maia fight an allo? no. can dibble and kentro fight an allo. YES. at least in my eyes

[honest sparrow]

Because combat is the only fun thing as is

Also maia can fight an allo

Actually anything can fight an allo

[swift dew]

SINCE FUCKING WHEN

[vast wolf]

maia is as heavy as allo and maia will probably be very fast.

[honest sparrow]

Since now

[swift dew]

yes, this complements its strategy of "shrug off some damage and run away" playstyle

[swift dew]

[vast wolf]

in no world should ANY mid tier take less time to grow than any psuedo mid if they follow their diets.

[honest sparrow]

You said CAN fight allo, and Maia can fight allo, it’s not as likely to win as dibble or kentro but it CAN still win

[swift dew]

we really need to stop looking at dinos in "tiers" its really stupid. weight isnt the only thing that matters

[honest sparrow]

At most dibble and kentro should take as long as mids

[vast wolf]

extra smalls should take less than an hour
smalls should take 1 - 1.5 hours
psuedo mids should take 1.5 - 2 hours
mids should take 2 - 3 hours
psudeo apex should take 3 - 5
apex should take 5+

[honest sparrow]

3 hour sucho

[vast wolf]

persionally i dont like the idea of a kentro taking almost as long to grow as an allo that is double its weight and would be a scarry fight for the kentro.

sucho and acro would be about 5

para and pachyrhino would be 3.8-4.2

might as well do the carnivores rn

[swift dew]

would also be a scary fight for the allo because if you make one wrong move and your getting a face full of spikes

[swift dew]

also tiers, stop thinking about them, the game isnt balanced by them. its a bad mindset to have thinking that one animal is directly better than one because it weighs more

#general-feedback-discussion message

anyway, I made some edits, better?

[vast wolf]

compy - 0-2 minutes
velo - 25 minutes
troodon - 30 minutes
herrera - 45 minutes
austro - 50 minutes
rugops - 53 minutes
mono - 55 minutes
utah - 1 hour
dilo - 1 hour 25 minutes
cerato - 1 hour 40 minutes
megalania - 1 hour 50 minutes
bary - 2 hours 15 minutes
carno - 2 hours 35 minutes
allo - 3 hours
alberto - 3 hours 10 minutes
sucho - 4 hours 20 minutes
acro - 4 hours 45 minutes
giga - 6 hours 35 minutes
spino - 6 hours 55 minutes
rex - 7 hours

diablo pachy ava and kentro raky way too long still shant it too short

[paper oriole]

lol a 2 minute growth youd just watch it get bigger every second

[vast wolf]

thats kind of my way of saying compy either has no growth or grows near instantly

[hoary dawn]

30 minute troodon

[swift dew]

why is utah so short? is these optimal diet pathways? utah should not be so short

[vast wolf]

your kind of biased to the big animals as you "dont want them to take ages to grow" but the small animals take way too long.

[vast wolf]

utah is slightly shorter than pachy.

[swift dew]

those aren't optimal diet pathways though. if you eat your food right as a pachy you could get 1 hour growth, or maybe even slightly shorter

[vast wolf]

the way i intend them to work is pachy is favored in that matchup and is also good against most other predators fast enough to catch it.

so your saying only 20 minutes shaved off of a 1 hour 20 minute grow with optimal diets?

theres basically no point in that then. just dont eat trash that kills your growth time and your all good.

[swift dew]

yes, you shave off 20% of your growth time seems pretty good to me

[vast wolf]

shant and trike are going to be very hard to kill once they reach adult

also the whole plan with apexes is that they are going to be hell to grow and keep healthy.

having a percentage like that heavily favors the apexes.

20% off a 6 hour shant grow is like 1 hour and 45 minutes off.

[swift dew]

well it doesn't have to be 20% for everything obviously

[hoary dawn]

a fixed percentage would be kinda weird

[honest sparrow]

The isle

[dense wagon]

@fringe sparrow normally this would be a cool mechanic
but since this is a game where hunger consumption is sped up drastically, creatures going from robust and healthy looking to skinnier than a toothpick in a timespan of less than 15 minutes would look weird af.

so you'd look like this

and ten minutes later you'd look like.. this

sounds crappy and immersion breaking to me tbh

also that would mean eating would instantly restore any fat you lost, correct?
i don't think that's how digestion works

@dapper mirage pretty sure that's the desync
server issue that the devs have been fighting with for a long while now. hitboxes sometimes lag out and players rubberband

[hoary dawn]

hi

i grew a brachi

[hoary dawn]

mercs shouldn't ride dinos, but i have seen suggestions talking about tribals enslaving them

idk if that's gonna be a thing tho

it'd be cool

[paper oriole]

Me baiting mercs who want to ride me and then eating them instead

[steady lintel]

Isn’t visual starvation already in the game

[hoary dawn]

pretty sure it is, although very subtly

[barren zephyr]

it could easily be overtime

gaining weight could happen gradually, like it does in game

so can losing weight

and it doesn’t have to show instantly

[dense wagon]

sure but that's not what the suggestion was about

the suggestion was about weight reflecting the player's hunger meter

not their overall dietary status

people don't read

[barren zephyr]

yeah but it could work

it just need tweaking

[jade schooner]

I agree with you on this.

But I thought of one way to "overcome" this, is having a separate measurement. So to say.
Depending on how long one goes with an empty stomach, a "musculature" stat would start to drain (maybe the large circle outside of the hunger meter). This could work differently, meaning you won't start to get hurt from just an empty stomach. This drainage could be slower (let's say 30-40 min?), and same goes for filling yourself up (maybe hunger could drain a little faster when your meter is under a 100%, so you'd have a bigger insensitive to look for more food). What could this affect? Base health and/or bleed resistance, but not damage, because you still gotta get through to find your meal or defend. And most importantly, how much food you give once you're a corpse.

I think that's one way it could be done. What do you think?

[wanton hull]

@fringe sparrow @dense wagon this mechanic already exists ingame most noticeable on tenno go check it out

[hybrid matrix]

@fringe sparrow that goes perfectly with my starvation suggestion

I'll try and find the link, but im on my phone so i might not be able to

Yeah i can't link it

#general-feedback message

[hoary dawn]

that noise . . .

it haunts me

[paper oriole]

I hope theri keeps his evil scream

[feral solstice]

Make it echo too

[hoary dawn]

make it immune to being out of breath so it can spam for all eternity

[paper oriole]

make its held call just an endless scream until the key is released

[hoary dawn]

fuck

[lofty pagoda]

. . .

[hoary dawn]

. . .

[vale pawn]

screech

i have other haunting calls

[haughty forge]

@fringe sparrow look it is already there :

[steady lintel]

@barren zephyr i think we should wait and see what abilities and stats the devs give the dino before growth times

[paper oriole]

Dinosaur cubs

[barren zephyr]

not hatchlings at all:

[patent garden]

nesting itself has plenty of incentive (instant group, usually somewhat organized if they manage to nest) — it doesnt need a physical buffing effect to be popular

[raw wind]

just gonna say this that skinner then a tooth pick thing that takes MONTHS not days so they could slow it down to by the day there are some animals known to be able to grow with little food such as cats for example there born and lets say there unable to get food one week later they look vary skinny assumeing they were able to get a bit of food here and there only enough to keep them alive the next week they are then wither dead or like a twig it should deppend on day cycles assumeing they can get just enough food to survive and animals dont work the way isle has it while yes its sped up there hunger is poor adapted to the every day life of said animal and get hungry multiple times a day while others dont get hungry each day unrealisticly set to large herbivores that while yes have large stomachs actualy tend to eat alot more and even large carnivores who would have actualy had to eat more often becouse there large bodys required more meat this probably isnt the current topic but i wanted to sahre this the "Realisim" dondi and other devs are trying to get to is haulted every time by the animals themselfs for example you see more large dinosours then small ones in every ecosystem in real life you as a unthreating human always hear and see the small first as they find you less of a threat same goes with other animals youd see and hear birds snails ext then youd see a fox and things would get only a bit quiet then later on you might see a wolf and so on if you tracked hard enough youd see elk and moose and bison and other big carnivores like bear and courger but for miles if there not careful you wont ever see a deer or elk near bigger carnivores sorry for poor gramur and spelling im not the best at spelling and im only just learning proper grammur and punctuation as early on i was kind of left to learn by myself and teachers never bother to try to get me to learn so i never learned properly so overall i lack in most english stuff you should be able to read it however and or put down your own punctuation i tend to type informally as well which doesnt help the issue at all

[limber hull]

why the hell are we deciding grow times before we even know their kits or design

[pure fulcrum]

15 hours for brachi?

[barren zephyr]

@barren zephyr those growth times are impractical

1 hour is more or less good for utah, since it is not incredibly powerful

on which server did they hate it?

I would not say so

I mean growing as a utah is hard enough if you are at risk of predators, including other utahraptors

[flat crypt]

I think a lot of people forget that in the grand scheme of things, utah is one of the smallest carnivores lmao

[barren zephyr]

Sure it is 5-6 meters long, but its not that big when compared to a Tyrannosaurus

its big but also not big

[flat crypt]

currently sure

[cyan flame]

It's not just about size, but power as well, and so on. As for suggested timers, I'll pass on commenting on that. But 1 hour for utah sounds a little short. It is after all designed to punch up and can do so quite well, and is plenty viable as solo/pair at that. And 12 or so hours for a big sauropod sounds good to me. It's very much one of those where you don't grow in one session. Not to mention that in that case, you can make them powerful enough soon enough that they can play quite well while still growing.

[oak tapir]

Why? , You're a brachi it aint worth half a day irl to be a long neck in a fucking video game

Ok then 8 hours , since 5 hours of ur life are gonna be hell

[flat crypt]

honestly it's entirely possible adult brachi aren't untouchable though

balance wise it's possible to make it very strong, but not invincible

Pue is damn hard to kill, one mistake and you're dead. but clever gigas/stegos/theris that know how to ride the hind leg can bring it down

i doubt it'd work the exact same way, but the apexes will probably have ways if bringing it down if they're very patient

giga could be a perfect brachi killer imo. make brachi weak to bleed. giga carefully bites it and just waits it out. it'd take time, but could be done

[cyan flame]

Yeah, brachio shouldn't be invincible. It should be huntable by packs/mobs or similar of sufficiently sized predators.

[paper oriole]

Oh lawd

Wait

[pure fulcrum]

hypos are prob gonna destroy brachi though

[flat crypt]

pretty sure strains are still planned

dondi loves em

but they're far off stuff

[paper oriole]

Why does kentro take 3 and a half hours

[pure fulcrum]

im pretty sure hypos are still gonna be a thing

[paper oriole]

Wait whoa whoa, 5hr titanoboa lmao

I think you overestimate how big titanoboa is

[limber hull]

lmao

[paper oriole]

I would be surprised to see a titanoboa even eat a tenonto

[limber hull]

imagine growing 5 hours for a long snake that only eats fish

[paper oriole]

Lmao he cant even unhinge his jaw to eat big stuff yeah lol

[limber hull]

1-2 hours is where I'd put the thing

[paper oriole]

Um

[limber hull]

a titanoboa to a rex would be like, a worm to us

[paper oriole]

You know thats a part of eating right

[limber hull]

lmao

[late cradle]

@oak tapir okay those growth times are stupid as hell

like

why would

[paper oriole]

You mean not chew

[late cradle]

it be 5 hours

[paper oriole]

Yeah he shouldnt chew that would be stupid

But he would still be eating

What games have snakes that chew wtf

[oak tapir]

what exactly is hell?

Give me a reason

[late cradle]

like

hell you know

thats like

[oak tapir]

Wtf

[late cradle]

dead rising infinity 7 day achievement levels of stupidity

ok 2 hours id be okay with

[oak tapir]

Ok you do a better one

[late cradle]

but 5 hours

[paper oriole]

Ive never seen a snake simulator game

If they really doing that shit

Then wtf

[oak tapir]

Things like apexes should be 5hours you numbskull

[late cradle]

what the hell is a apex

[paper oriole]

Top of the food chain

Like rex, giga

[late cradle]

ohhh

[limber hull]

idk if i'd qualify stego or deino as apexes tbh

[late cradle]

but cant the apexes die to like trikes and shit

[paper oriole]

Yeah

[limber hull]

they're pretty big, dont get me wrong

[flat crypt]

trike is also an apex

[late cradle]

okay so

[flat crypt]

apexes die to apexes

[oak tapir]

Ok why tf is this guy argueing?

APEX = trike , shant , rex , giga , spino , brachi , cama

[limber hull]

im kinda glad they're adding mechanics that mean little dinos at least have a chance in fighting apexes with great enough numbers

[late cradle]

well then nerf all the grow times for them lol cause its way too long

[paper oriole]

No lol

[cyan flame]

Apex is not an official term anyway, so might be better to just judge the individual critter, and mostly go by size in general possibly.

[oak tapir]

Its not coming

[flat crypt]

also GMH, i'd probably make cama take a little longer? Obviously we dunno exactly how it'll play out and how it's strength will compare to legacy, but it doesn't feel like it should be shorter than the apex carnis

[oak tapir]

OOOH RIGHt cama is getting sized up again

[paper oriole]

If apexes didnt take a long time to grow we'll have legacy all over again where half a server is just rexes because they were ez grow

[flat crypt]

im not entirely sure, but even if it isn't it's still a big beefy boy

[cyan flame]

I would say it depends, I don't think every smaller critter should be designed that way, but some could have hunting styles that suit bigger prey more than similar sized, just like carno is suited to hunt smaller things than itself (or so it's supposed to be at least).

[oak tapir]

Nah nah , They gonna make apex growth HELL , so unlike legacy where 20% of the server was JUST REX

[late cradle]

sounds like a skill issue that yall werent able to take down the rexes before they grew

😐

[oak tapir]

Nah they go afk in bushes farming AI

[paper oriole]

Not really tf

[late cradle]

fr?

[oak tapir]

Hunter u new to TI?

[paper oriole]

They hide in empty corners of the map

[late cradle]

yea

i thought it was only players

[paper oriole]

Thats why they AFKpexes

[late cradle]

theres ai now

[oak tapir]

U know what legacy is right

[late cradle]

thats the main version right

[oak tapir]

Legacy had AI spawn and they were slow andweak

[oak tapir]

THe old version

not the main

IT is a busted version , code is busted so they had to make a new game

[paper oriole]

But anyway apex growth should still be long and it should be a bitch to grow a predator that can shitstomp most of the roster in a fight

[oak tapir]

That is what is happening

[late cradle]

i never wanted to play the isle cause it sucked

the only thing that looked good were the graphics

but this isle evrima looks cool

[limber hull]

like, im talking raptors and shit. Fuckers that work really well in bleeding big things to death and moving in large packs. I'd imagine a massive pack of utahs would be one of the few little guys who could potentially stand against a fullgrown rex, but even then the rex has good chance of victory

bleed in EVIRMIA seems to me to be a tool almost designed for raptors to help them take down big scary solo things as a team.

it's much less effective when the bleeding target has backup however

[oak tapir]

I Made cama Same as brachi bc cama's back is high so gigas cant touch it , and cama is faster than brachi and over all will be more fun ngl

[late cradle]

how would you even get close to that bleeding thing

[oak tapir]

What?

What bleeding thing?

Giga?

[late cradle]

this

[keen reef]

Man can we just stop trying to make new growth times?

[paper oriole]

Nono people should keep doing it

[spark fog]

How is there already visual starvation implemented? Where?

[paper oriole]

I like to make fun of the lists

[keen reef]

That's a good idea, I might make a really bad one for memes

[azure wadi]

God damn those growth times would not work well

Ok sorry if that sounds rude but there are a lot of problems with those that I imagine people have already told you so I won’t get into it unless you want more criticism

[low canopy]

almost 2 hours for pachy just to get killed by a single pounce of utah

[azure wadi]

Also troodon and dilo having the same growth times

[keen reef]

They both have venom

[digital belfry]

xD

[azure wadi]

Ah yes, one is definitely not like 6 times the size of the other one

Also para and kentro having the same growth time

[digital belfry]

can ppl pls stop making grow time suggestions without knowing any abilities and all that stuff

[limber hull]

dinosaurs do not care about your shitty gun game skins

[ionic arch]

@barren zephyr it's a scam

He is saying that on every channel

[worn pumice]

damn another strange ass list not as bad as before but still

making growth lists in and of itself is already flawed since we dont have any info on a lot of dinos rn ther niche or their special ability

[azure wadi]

What

[limber hull]

scammer

gone now

[azure wadi]

Am I missing something

[limber hull]

yes

[azure wadi]

Oh damn

So I’m assuming someone sent an isle is scam link

[limber hull]

no

just a bot spamming "gun skin giveaways"

[azure wadi]

Oh, ew

[worn pumice]

lol wth

why do i always miss the good stuff

[limber hull]

@random hazel even then, it wont stop killing other of your kind for fun, which is a great motivator for basically most of these cannibals, including the one you posted

he didnt eat you after killing you

he did it because he could

[random hazel]

exactly

I don't know they should try finding a way around it

those players are aids

[fading fjord]

Lmao, we hating ppl for playing the game?

[ionic arch]

Yeah but carnos were cannibals so

[brisk bridge]

Exactly and that’s why I prefer servers with rules otherwise it just becomes an endless chase for the herbivores or juvies. And those people that complain about server rules can simply go off to no rule servers

[vast wolf]

people that think shant should take 6 hours and kentro should take over 2 are insane.

[ionic arch]

Yeah, some one said ava with 2 hours growth

[limber hull]

eh, i prefer the official experience rather than the moderated experience. I'd prefer they focus on handling killing your own kind, not necessarily by reducing damage, as that would create a huge power spike in pack animals, but rather punishing those who kill repeatedly, unless they are well known as cannibals

[ionic arch]

Galli 40 minutes and even dilo having a faster growth than Utah, 1 hours for Dilo and 1 hours 40 mins for Utah...

That's stupid

[vast wolf]

@tulip mason thats like bobs heavily flawed system and also greatly discourages solo gameplay. making someone that plays solo do less damage is just stupid.
half of the things it "fixes" are already planned to happen with groups having hard pack/herd limits that community servers can tweak.

[vast wolf]

they put ovi at 1 hr 20 minutes and galli at 40 minutes despite ovi being like a 10th of gallis size.

[limber hull]

for example, imo, playing cerato is putting yourself into cannibal territory. I think certain dinos should be fine with exhibiting cannibalistic behaviour, and by picking them you accept that

[tulip mason]

@vast wolf So then maybe not punish solo players with being weaker, but encourage people to do more damage when in a group

[ionic arch]

Carnos were Cannibals

[limber hull]

huh

[vast wolf]

you should not get any combat buff for being in a group except numbers.

more players = more potential damage and more targets to keep track of.

i absolutely never want to see a system like bobs grouping in any survival game again.

[tulip mason]

i dont play that game

[vast wolf]

#general-feedback-discussion message

[tulip mason]

so don't assume im just pulling an idea from another game

[vast wolf]

#general-feedback-discussion message

[tulip mason]

packs/herds should be encouraged, right now it isn't

[vast wolf]

its very similar and causes major balance issues

[tulip mason]

and having large pack/herds has no penalty currently, that's the bigger issue

[vast wolf]

packs and herds are encouraged right now as its the easiest way to stay safe/hunt

[tulip mason]

so maybe just penalize those that have too big groups

[vast wolf]

mega packs/mega herds will be addressed eventually and in fact mix herds will probably be near eradicated when diets come out.

[tulip mason]

how will it be addressed

[ionic arch]

Yeah that's good but Spino should have 15 minutes more than Rex because of health

[vast wolf]

theres a planned debuff if your exceeding the group limit or are mix packing.

[ionic arch]

The list is very well done

[vast wolf]

you forget that spino cant really hunt any other apex.

[tulip mason]

then people will simply not group, they'll just be around each other

[vast wolf]

spino is just very hard to kill.

spino is the slow defensive small game/fisher

[vast wolf]

theres already something for this in the form of the big stinky yellow clouds.

they will add another debuff in the future.

[ionic arch]

Yeah because Health

[glad dirge]

Comfort is a very abusable system

[vast wolf]

rex can probably take anything down except camma shant and brachi.

eeven then camma and shant arent safe.

spino will have a defensive slap attack that pushes back other animals.

[tulip mason]

just kinda funny because i suggest something you're saying it's being added, but my suggestion is bad lol

ok man

[vast wolf]

no apex except deino will die to spino on land and deino can swim away.

[tulip mason]

whatever you say

[vast wolf]

parts of your suggestion are being added. other parts are balance nightmares and would encourage unhealthy behavior where those who have the larger pack win in the fight every time and a solo animal vs an animal that grew up in a pack heavily favors the pack animal.

[tulip mason]

so i changed it

that's the point of dicussion

[ionic arch]

Cherry and maybe Giga could die to Spino

[tulip mason]

and how do i know for sure something is being added to nerf mega groups

[vast wolf]

giga will be able to just run away.

cherius can probably either fend off spino by doing more damage and having just as much reach if not more or it could also be able to outrun spino.

[tulip mason]

forget it not gonna waste my time giving ideas

[ionic arch]

I know but if the Giga try to fight then it'll lost

[vast wolf]

thats what defensive animals are meant to be lol. spino is intended to stand its ground as its going to be very slow on land and not especially fast in water. everything else can choose to not hunt it and it cant kill them unless they want to die to it.

spino is 5 minutes less than rex and rex can effectively kill almost any large herbivore and bullys every carnivore on land.

if spino gets its growth time increased so do rex trike shant camma and brachi.

rex and giga are meant to hunt the large herbivores. spino is meant to hunt mid tiers at best.

spino is more likely to be a corpse bully/fisher/small-mid sized game hunter.

[ionic arch]

Spino: the carnivore with the most health

Rex: most damage for carni

Giga: most stamina (for apex carni) and will be able to drain blood much faster than other

Cherry: maybe the fastest apex between those four

[vast wolf]

giga goes after fresh kills the most often and targets things like shant and camma a lot
rex steals kills and targets trike/anky the most
spino bullys mid tiers off of kills and eats fish.

rex is also planned to be able to grab something with its mouth and cause extreme fractures by doing so.

[ionic arch]

Yeah the pin down thing

[vast wolf]

all of spinos combat tools are defensive.

spino is going to be the slowest apex carnivore.

spino will also do fairly low damage for its size i would assume. it just has a knockback slap with its claws for dealing with other apexes on land. spinos entire thing is that it forces you to back off but it cant kill you unless you keep running into its face.

the growth times on my list are determined by matchups vs other animals, how its kit works, size and ability to escape or win fights within its tier.

rex is planned to be able to take down almost any herbivore.

same with giga although giga would probably prefer things like shant and camma over anky stego and trike.

[ionic arch]

Yeah your growth timers are very good

[vast wolf]

i mostly looked at size and what we know about the animal in question.

i made pachy longer than utah because pachy will likely fuck utah up in a one on one and pachy can cripple carno with its charge attack.

i made tenonto take longer than diablo and kentro because its larger, faster and just as good at combat.

kentro and diablo could end up moving up a bit depending on how they function against mid tiers like allo.

[ionic arch]

Yeah

[unkempt cave]

There is a bug where when I'm turning or z turning in circles my dino is glitching and rubbingbanding back and forth any way to fix this? (Legacy ver and as rex)

[low canopy]

would rather see species specific chat if anything to help finding others if you are herd focused species but what eves

[vast wolf]

if your being pulled in one direction logging out usually fixes it.

[swift dew]

@barren zephyr its... better, still not great though. especially ovi and galli

[oblique crane]

that @ punch tho oof

[orchid spruce]

Lol

[hybrid matrix]

Hey @vivid spade did u consider that some people who have arachnophobia might like this game? Myself included

Serious question

Did u forget that ppl have arachnophobia

[oblique crane]

i cant tell whats scarier, the spiders or him @ ing a developer in general feedback

[low bolt]

both

[hybrid matrix]

For me its definitely the spiders

But im scared of squre cm sized spiders so it wasnt rlly close

@vivid spade did u forget about arachnophobia?

[odd sedge]

The @.... oof

[oblique crane]

fr

[hybrid matrix]

The way they wrote the suggestion reminds me of this wiki fandom that im in ironically

[odd sedge]

I feel sorry for you, pal

[hybrid matrix]

https://dinosaurs-battle-world-championship.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Minecraftbear.com/Indoraptor_vs_Indominus_rex

But splatt's excused since they german

[odd sedge]

Yikes

[solar peak]

@vivid spade I don't think pinging punch for that matter is a good thing to do

[odd sedge]

Pinging a mod always gives me that kind of you will die in five seconds feeling

[vivid spade]

kp i have this idea sorry for you fobia but its a horror survival game

[hybrid matrix]

Other ways to make it scary

This isn't the kind of horror game to exploit phobias

[solar peak]

what? I just said you shouldn't ping devs only to share your feedback, imagine what would have happend if everyone did that

[vivid spade]

I still don't think that I have to apologize for my idea

[hybrid matrix]

Im not saying you do

[solar peak]

I'm not saying to apologize for anything, just don't ping devs for that

[odd sedge]

Games like Phasmophobia or Subnautica are excused for stuff like Thalassaphobia, since it's the core element of the game but a survival horror game with dinosaurs doesn't really need an arachnophobic approach

[hybrid matrix]

Im wondering if you took into account how negatively spiders would affect the game

[hybrid matrix]

Yes this is what im saying

[oblique crane]

if anything make spiders ambient creatures imo

[vivid spade]

ok what about snake fobias

[swift dew]

what about ornithoscelidaphobia

[odd sedge]

Even big modern spiders are too smol

[swift dew]

no idea if this is correct or not, I just googled dinosaur phobia

[hybrid matrix]

Few ppl actually want titanoboa
I dont want it either

[solar peak]

that's much less popular amd titanoboa is kind of different and easier to avoid

[hybrid matrix]

Maybe this is the wrong game for u if u have this phobia lmao

[odd sedge]

Well if you are scared of dinosaurs, you shouldn't play a dinosaur game.

[oblique crane]

lmfao

[odd sedge]

Same with fear of the ocean. Don't play Subnautica if you are scared of water

[swift dew]

too late

[solar peak]

I fear ocean and still play it :)

[hybrid matrix]

That is unless you wanna torture urself

[odd sedge]

True, you could also play it for the sake of being scared

[hybrid matrix]

The point of playing horror games

[odd sedge]

But spiders is just... something different

[hybrid matrix]

Gtg

Might be back in a minute tho

[vivid spade]

ok its only an idea that burns me so it comes ore not ...

[odd sedge]

No one ever said that, pal :3
Just a trigger warning could have prevented it

[swift dew]

grounded

[hasty dagger]

Chonky Keratinous Crest Dilo my beloved

[swift dew]

@rigid robin I would love to see that dilo crest come as a model variation, as I also like the current dilo crest

[barren zephyr]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ornithoscelida

[swift dew]

well there you go

[barren zephyr]

Ornithoscelida is a clade which basically revolves around the idea that theropods are closer to ornithischians than to sauropods

[hoary dawn]

why do people keep putting galli growth time so close to ovi in their suggestions

ovi goes up to like galli's knee

[ebon wyvern]

any news on fixing the rubber banding lag?

[rigid robin]

i didnt actually think of customization

so that could be really cool

i figured our best hope was that modders would get to it but with customization coming that could actually be an option

[swift dew]

and if they don't do model variations, maybe for sexual dimorphism. the males could have the proposed crest and the females could have the current crest

[rigid robin]

id love that to be an unlockable through the perk system

different crests and stuff

[paper oriole]

Lmao the cannibal feedback guy was afk tabbed out watching youtube and he didn’t even hide at least. Deserved death

[worn pumice]

while i agree with what they said that video is yikes

imagine afk'ing in central river out in the open too

[paper oriole]

Honestly that cannibal did the server a favour

[random hazel]

lol okay

I tabbed out for only a second

regardless of what I did cannibalism or killing for sport is cancerous

[paper oriole]

Eh there's nothing else to do

[random hazel]

I was resting because I ran for long

[paper oriole]

Why not rest in a hidden spot? There is foliage

[random hazel]

the foliage there wasn't good enough

would have made no difference

look I don't care I fully grew another carno after that one

[paper oriole]

Better than sitting out in the open lol, could wallow and sit less out in the open and most people pass by unless theyre actively looking

[random hazel]

all I care about is cannibalism and killing for sport

[paper oriole]

Diets wont stop kfs

[random hazel]

there should be other ways around it

[paper oriole]

Its just gonna be a part of the game unless you play on rules servers

[random hazel]

you would feel the same if it were you in my spot

[paper oriole]

Not really because i hide if i need to go afk or regen stam

[random hazel]

and if you hide and you still get spotted then killed for sport?

[paper oriole]

Then i guess i just got isled lol

[random hazel]

and would you like it?

[paper oriole]

Unless its some cringe mixpack or megapack doing it i was fair game and i dont care

Just play on a rules server where admins can monitor it

[hoary dawn]

getting killed is part of the game, with so few carnivores in the game rn you are way more likely to be killed by one of your own. dietary needs and just more carnivores being added will make cannibalism way less common

[swift dew]

wtf, how did i get teleported to this chat, oops

[paper oriole]

did i see styraco dissing

[vestal rune]

honestly cannibalism shouldn't be punished

[paper oriole]

And yeah the servers are like 80% carnis of 3 different species (not even counting ptera) so expect to be cannibalized

[swift dew]

[hoary dawn]

it shouldn't be punished, only dissuaded for some animals

[random hazel]

pointing out a problem that should or will be fixed isn't wrong to do

[vestal rune]

it's not a problem

[paper oriole]

Most carnis should just not get diet perks from it, a few could have penalties, a few can have it as a part of diet (cera, deino and rex for adult on juvie cannibalism)

[random hazel]

if it's done that way it is

[vestal rune]

all that should happen with cannibalism is that your species' food is just really low-quality and doesn't have any positive diet effects

but none of that weird turning albino shit or other weird punishments

[random hazel]

I didn't disagree to that

[hoary dawn]

yea

[vestal rune]

unless you're like a cerato where your species would be preferred food

and maybe deino

[paper oriole]

Some predators should just have juvies of their species in their diet and not benefit from eating other adults, since it happens alot irl too and it natural needed population control in the game

[random hazel]

annoyed me how he just wanted to kill for fun

if he at least ate me I would have been mildly okay with it

[vestal rune]

how do you know he wasn't hungry?

[random hazel]

he just sat down next to me

[vestal rune]

ye maybe he was waiting

[random hazel]

for what lol

[vestal rune]

food to drop

[paper oriole]

A hungry pack mate maybe

[vestal rune]

ye

[random hazel]

so his hunger to drop by an inch then fill himself up again with a small corpse

makes sense

[hoary dawn]

almost like its a survival pvp game

[vestal rune]

you know this is a hardcore game you should expect to die

especially when you're tabbed out in the open

[random hazel]

doesn't mean you can't be provoked by someone with that behavior especially if you spent an hour playing

there was nowhere else I could have gone to and I only tabbed out for a few seconds

[paper oriole]

Mud and foliage was right there to make yourself hidden by wallowing and then hiding in some trees so you arent immediately noticeable to other predators

[hoary dawn]

yea like, when you're just sitting out in the open you are just asking to be killed, killing a vulnerable target is always more profitable than waiting until you're desperate

[random hazel]

the terrain next to me was a hill

whatever

whatever I did doesn't matter

point is that behavior

it can happen anytime anywhere

[hoary dawn]

I always kill my own

[random hazel]

🙂

[paper oriole]

Doesnt matter if i'm hungry

[random hazel]

oh if you're hungry then okay

if you're being aids then no

[hoary dawn]

or not, I always

[hoary dawn]

doesn't matter

[random hazel]

yeah I can't have my own opinion

[hoary dawn]

nope

this is islecord

[honest sparrow]

it wouldn't have mattered

[swift dew]

[honest sparrow]

[odd sedge]

@solid inlet legacy is not getting updated. It's getting deleted

[solid inlet]

wait why did I get pinged

[hoary dawn]

you have the same name as the person that just made that legacy suggestion

comedic moment

[solid inlet]

ah ok

[sudden hinge]

@solid inlet#0100 legacy isn’t getting updated

Wait why did it tag you that’s so weird

[upper summit]

@jovial cypress simple fix, don't play legacy

i mean seriously it's been the same game for years and it's dead to the devs

[velvet sundial]

@idle comet A carboniferous forest simulator exists. It still awaits insects, though

[idle comet]

I was saying more of as ambient creatures that can be found. AI for some dinosaurs to feed upon

[solid wedge]

@olive helm They dont have the teeth to rip off chunks of meat, so itll have to be something quite small

[paper oriole]

Ah yes those two recent feedbacks are so valuable and constructive

[feral solstice]

“Fix the game”
Oh my god no wonder the games so broken! You’re a genius! It’s not like they’ve been fixing the game since it’s release! Wow, you get a Harvard scholarship!

[timber mesa]

Yeah guys I think we just found the solution to all the games bugs and problems, we just have to fix it!

[hasty dagger]

How did nobody think of this

[zinc rivet]

this lag's just fuckin bullshit and i'm tired of it

it's unplayable

[barren zephyr]

to be fair, the isle has always been unplayable

[zinc rivet]

idk if they're aware of it or working on a fix for it, to my knowledge they're 100% focused on update 4 so it could be months w/o a lag fix

[paper oriole]

Well luckily now they have your feedback and will be able to fix it!!1!

[zinc rivet]

fuckin frustrated

[hasty dagger]

If you’re referring to the rubberbanding, just try out different servers. Ibis and some Officials run decently

[barren zephyr]

*or just don’t play the isle at all (best decision imo)

[zinc rivet]

the officials are where it's worse and even unofficials have still been bad

[hasty dagger]

I haven’t noticed it much unless there’s tons of corpses which even happens on Legacy which is much more optimized than Evrima

[barren zephyr]

to avoid lag just avoid officials entirely. it’s a massive shitshow. unofficials still suffer but not nearly as much

[molten tulip]

Why haven't the devs pressed the magical 'fix lag' button yet??????

[hoary dawn]

the "are we there yet?" of feedback

[hoary dawn]

its literally their job to make the game as playable as possible, just because it doesn't happen quickly doesn't mean they aren't doing it

[patent garden]

"it's unplayable" ??

[severe dove]

What’s with all the « shut » reactions. Honestly one of the most disrespectful responses to a feedback. It’s an opinion, you don’t like it just put an X and that’s it no need to be rude.

[patent garden]

usually they're in response to rude suggestions tho

like "haha devs so stoopid fix ur game"

most ones that are like "please prioritize optimization prior to future updates" dont tend to get the shut emote

[feral solstice]

It’s the fact that the same feedback is repeatedly being sent over and over again

Like the devs already get it. They need to fix their game. That’s their job. That’s what they’ve BEEN trying to do for the past year lmao

And tbf

[patent garden]

even then, more polite feedback that actually attempts to be somewhat productive (i.e, giving a plan) tends to be much better received

[feral solstice]

I think the shut reactions are mainly for the last sentence of the message lmao

Not sentence

I guess the sarcasm that was put into the feedback

That’s my guess

[patent garden]

probably

[hoary dawn]

yea its the point of being a game developer, to make something that is actually playable, people whining about it in a channel meant for constructive feedback is not helpful at all

if you cant understand that optimizing a game takes time then you need to

[fiery wraith]

how do you fix the bug where you can't jump on evrima

[frigid storm]

relog

also, maybe safe-logging people when the server crashes is a good idea. tired of losing dinos to that

[turbid forge]

5 years have past. im sure they are gonna fix it next year

[hoary dawn]

you do realize that they haven't been working on the same issues for the game's entire development

they kinda switched branches last year idk if you noticed

[turbid forge]

True but it seems the issues that get fixed like rubber-banding suddenly appears again after a few days and desync has been a thing for the whole of Evrima

[hoary dawn]

yea and those are the issues that they are constantly trying to fix

they aren't choosing to take a while to fix them, these are issues that aren't easily fixed with a flick of a switch

[turbid forge]

Would hiring a specialist maybe help?

[hoary dawn]

last i heard they still had job openings

[feral solstice]

Yeah

Specifically

A netcoder

Which they’re working towards

[turbid forge]

But they aren't putting them out in the open

[hoary dawn]

what

[turbid forge]

Tweet more frequently about hiring

[feral solstice]

Uh

Last I heard

[turbid forge]

and maybe do a vid or something on their youtube and pin it in the discord and it surely wouldn't be hard

[feral solstice]

For the mapper position, they have thousands of applicants

So I’m pretty sure it’s out in the open rn lmao

[hoary dawn]

idk exactly how they go about hiring people cuz im not interested in that process but they are definitely getting it out there

[feral solstice]

Plus it’s not like they aren’t going out and looking for developers

Christ

Dondi found a developer he liked, pretty sure another artist

[hoary dawn]

in the last like 2 months they've hired at least 3 new devs, maybe more that i'm not aware of

[feral solstice]

He said “so how’s the dev discord going”

But sadly

The person said he has 1 year of school left

So they ARE trying to get developers

[turbid forge]

I would like this info to be more public so we as the community can follow development

[hoary dawn]

then suggest it

[feral solstice]

I mean regarding all that, it’s not really a priority. Giving out this info changes nothing, really.

[turbid forge]

Suggestions get buried

[feral solstice]

It’s just.. there

Plus even Punch talks about it when he’s asked to do so

He’s the one telling us about the new devs

[hoary dawn]

then dont i guess

[feral solstice]

So far, on the radar, they’re trying to hire a Netcoder, and another animator

They managed to get their video editor and map dev

So

OH and the sound designer

Wedge

[turbid forge]

Then that is good

[hoary dawn]

and they got seiza for trailers

[feral solstice]

Though

A netcoder is harder to get than it looks

They’re, for one

Less abundant, due to their higher demand

Since, we’ll, without a netcoder, you’ll struggle with the networking itself

So that’ll take time to get

Animators, however, are easier cause there’s more of them

[turbid forge]

thx for the info

[feral solstice]

No problem

[paper oriole]

New giga is honestly pretty boring

The old one will always be better, this one has 0 personality

[vast wolf]

this ones personality is that it has thick back scales that look like osteoderms.

old giga did look fine but i think the model had issues as well.

[honest sparrow]

Both look good imo

[vast wolf]

it tended to crumple into a ball when it died.

[feral solstice]

Same

[vast wolf]

at least its not spinos model

spinos sail is tiny and its face is generic

[barren zephyr]

I like both, but I prefer new giga. looks way more intimidating and stoic

[paper oriole]

I mean the design of the old model is better

[vast wolf]

also the default skin is really bland as it dosent highlight the sail.

[paper oriole]

The rough crest and dewlap just looked way better than the new ones boring smooth face

[vast wolf]

i actually like new gigas face more but old gigas body more.

[paper oriole]

It is better than the new spino though, but that aint a hard design to beat

New spino is the most boring thing theyve revamped so far imo

[vast wolf]

if spinos sail was like 25% larger and its head looked like an actual spinosaurus skull it would be good.

[paper oriole]

Long legged spinos are also disgusting cursed but if its head and sail were better it would be passable

It looks so generic and its head just looks like stretch rex because its eye is too far forward

[barren zephyr]

the spino head literally looks like an elongated rex skull.

[paper oriole]

Yeah

[vast wolf]

it is

[barren zephyr]

well, no wonder it’s bad

[vast wolf]

would love to have this as an alternitive.

just give our spino this ones face and sail and its acceptable.

also the sail patern is god awful on ours.

why isnt its sail brightly colored.

[paper oriole]

God that spino is lightyears better than ours

I honestly get a little sad whenever i see it

[jade schooner]

I’m still waiting for someone with photoshop skills to edit the isle spino’s side view into something similar to taps

Or something like this first orange one or the second one

[jade schooner]

Same

[swift dew]

why must you tease me like this

[jade schooner]

Because I did those edits and im gonna throw them in every time there’s a spino discussion

The world needs to know the possibilities we’re missing

[digital plank]

i guess

[hoary dawn]

do you have a png of just the orange silhouette

[jade schooner]

I could make one, give me a min

[hoary dawn]

i could try to perform some black magic on it

[paper oriole]

they should just make magy have a camouflage ability so nobody has to see it and also so it can survive better i guess

[jade schooner]

@hoary dawn had to revisit it, it wasn’t very well made, and had black outline. Here’s the pure shape just done in orange

Honestly, that looks beautiful XD

[dense wagon]

@digital plank removing a carni's bite is basically removing its only way to defend itself. we want magy to be viable, not op

[digital plank]

i thought of it as being very temporary so that the magy could escape but the carni wouldn't die

[paper oriole]

to be fair the carni can just leave because magy is slower

[digital plank]

exactly

[paper oriole]

jawbreak would be very helpful for slow defensives

[jade schooner]

I'd be more inclined into CC abilities. Being a hit on the head of an enemy stunning them for a few seconds