general-feedback-discussion

[paper oriole]

Doesnt really matter with a pack that size, you can kill a dozen and still die

And have no way to flee

[cyan flame]

If there were 10 utahs vs you, and you somehow won, those utahs were not that good or coordinated. Or you had just wedged yourself between trees/rocks and they pounced you anyway I guess.

[digital vessel]

???

[brave nova]

the utahs you killed were bad

[cyan flame]

I disagree with Turbo here on a lot of things, but I'm inclined to think he would agree on this one, seeing as I know he knows his utahs at least.

[digital vessel]

If you stick them in the tree they get knocked off and hit with my tail, bucking just waste stam also you can hit them in the air as they pounce

[paper oriole]

Even a couple good utahs can beat stego, the megapacks can all collectively share a single digit count of brain cells and win due to sheer numbers because utah grows super fast and is ez raise in a group

[digital vessel]

its about timing and using tail attacks correctly maybe?

I dont know I just dont have a problem with utahs

[brave nova]

if they let you stun them against a tree when they pounce, they're bad

[cyan flame]

I'm just saying, with that number, they should not have had an issue, even with you tree hugging. You still got an open side.

[digital vessel]

Naa i just leave aside open and alt turn them into a tree

[cyan flame]

And an open head.

[digital vessel]

if they come in for a bite i alt turn and hit them?

[molten tulip]

10 utahs failing to take a stego is sad

[brave nova]

any competent player knows you can do that

[digital vessel]

You act like there is some science to evirma?

[molten tulip]

Not undermining your skill though

[limber merlin]

hm

[molten tulip]

Just know that if utah packs actually try and use their braincells they can obliterate stego

[cyan flame]

There is a bit of science to it, or whatever to call it. And yeah, not saying you're not good as a stego, or don't know what you're doing, you've clearly gotten a good deal down.

[limber merlin]

I got the black screen of death while loading in a server

I take it I am gonna lose my progress

[paper oriole]

Yeah utah is so easy to grow that preschool level IQ players can make packs and then die to things that one or two utahs who know what theyre doing can beat

[digital vessel]

Ok

[brave nova]

it's all about positioning and timing, and of course playing it safe and let the stego bleed out instead of being too aggressive

[digital vessel]

I just time my attack for when they come in if they try to pounce me i dont buck i just use the tree and know once they jump off and can run they have a slight pause before they can

So i just time it?

[brave nova]

carno vs stego is even easier, bordering on unfair imo

[molten tulip]

For steg or carno?

[digital vessel]

Just like deinos crying about there bite box, when someone tries to bite me from behind just alt bite with your camera behind you

youll lunge bite backwards isntantly

[brave nova]

for carno

[molten tulip]

I'm fine with it because carno isn't meant to take on giant prey anyway

[brave nova]

with carno you can fuck up and not die

[digital vessel]

As for stego i think there good, maybe their damage lowered and bleed raised since they kinda have both damage+bleed

[brave nova]

no I meant it's ez for carno to walk all over stegos

[digital vessel]

As for fair dein vs stego, how do you figure its fair 1v1?

[molten tulip]

Oh

[cyan flame]

@digital vessel I think the thing here is, they need to time it and go at the same time. You swing one side, good, you got one, maybe two of them. Meanwhile you're open for the other two who are now on you and dealing bleed. You turn to knock em off, they jump off, meanwhile another two is now pouncing from the free side. And if they got another one or two to spare, harass the head. Even one bite will add to it.

[paper oriole]

Stego doesnt need lowered base damage lol it doesnt even oneshot carno

Itll get steamrolled with its current stats when bigger terrestrials come out it doesnt need a nerf, quite the opposite in the future probably

[digital vessel]

Erik I know what you're saying bro it just sounds really good I think you've run into stupid stego players

[molten tulip]

A steg thagomizer to carno will take you out of the action though unless it's on the tail tip or something

[cyan flame]

Possible. Just thinking of how to counter your strategy and all that. You also need to take into account, they can run off, or even scavenge for food, and get water more importantly, while you can not. You will need water, even if you can delay food with grazing for a decent while.

[brave nova]

not even. Bait the tail swing, then attack. Don't just pray he's not swinging when you run in, make sure it's on cooldown. If he's not easy to bait, go in when he's looking the other way and be unpredictable

[digital vessel]

Grazing keeps food at 20%

so herbis never starve like carnos

[cyan flame]

That too of course, just thinking, if the stego is really good at timing to hit, you could still lose one, and win. He said about 10 utahs, that's enough for a "sacrifice" if needed.

I know, but 20% food = death by bleed

[digital vessel]

Well i killed like 7

The rest gave up

[brave nova]

anectdotal

[digital vessel]

Which I see happen alot

[cyan flame]

I'm not saying you didn't, or that you didn't play well. I'm saying the utahs could have just let you die to dehydration. At some point you'd have to move, if you were inland at least, while they can take turns to keep tab on you while getting water (and sacrifice one of them for food if needed too). And if you're low on water, you can only afford delayment so much.

[digital vessel]

You talking about a long drawn out legacy fight

Everyone in evirma dont fight like that

[brave nova]

raptors are bleeders, drawn out fights is how they win

[digital vessel]

Stego is beatable, as where is should require skill it depends ALOT on luck

[brave nova]

you're straight up saying it's people playing badly if they're not going for the drawn out fights against a competent stego

[cyan flame]

Yes. You adapt your hunting to the prey and the situation. I was once hunted by three carnos in update2 (long time ago now it seems), for almost two hours. They were determined, and they did get me (damn the tailbox thing).

And they had to hunt me for that long cause of my defensive position + some "stockpiling" of food. Unfortunately they had dryos on the field nearby, or I might have actually gotten out alive.

And this was in Evrima, not legacy.

Not that legacy fights are that outdrawn really, except maybe dilo vs rex/giga because bleed is what it is there.

[digital vessel]

I just don't like the cheesy evirma system compared to legacy hehe which I cant solo everything as a utah.

So i play stego

[cyan flame]

Huh?

What does that have to do with stego, or the matchup for that matter?

[digital vessel]

Nothing

[cyan flame]

Okay..

[digital vessel]

I don't care about you?

[dense vale]

longest fights ever were early evrima. i could log and grow a new teno by the time utahs finishes nipping me to death

[cyan flame]

Okay?.. :p

[digital vessel]

So my statement wasn't directed at you was just a statement about evirma?

[cyan flame]

Alright. Apologies for thinking it was supposed to be part of the argument then!

[digital vessel]

lol well apologies also

[compact hare]

@teal sparrow not an update, just a patch fixing bugs

[teal sparrow]

ah okay

[sand jay]

What does the bugfix mean by "bleeding not properly applying clog decrease %"?

[sonic mural]

Yea idk what they meant by that

[empty sigil]

Why was what I said shallow. The channel is called general feedback. I gave feedback on problems I've had in the game. why. (._.)

[edgy harbor]

Uh

They're referring to the fact that Adult deinos have a way harder time chasing smaller Deinos in Shallow water.

So just hang out around the shallower waters.

[empty sigil]

there really aren't many shallow enough spots to be safe

and not for large enough areas

there's one shallow river

[edgy harbor]

Okay fine but I was just clarifying what they are referring to

[empty sigil]

ok

other than that there are a few shallow river bends that only last a few meters, but a deino could just attack from the deeper water just to the side of those

[burnt bone]

@wild stone maybe not ceratopsians in particular, but that could be a very good idea for a herbivore in general

I think ceratopsians generally have a lot of different ways to have a special considering their face shield and horns

[wild stone]

I only mention ceratopsians because they're relatively heavy-built animals, and are only dangerous in close proximity. I would love them to have an ability that forces you to stay in proximity with them (Only to punish foolish hunters. It's not something that should work on a careful hunter, obviously, since I don't want to give herbs offensive capabilities. Defense only).

Plus, people were mentioning that their bite should be better than other herbivore bites in some way, without just being LMB spam.

[burnt bone]

yeah, I understand why it would be good to have it on a ceratopsian, but I feel they could have other powers too and another herb could have that uniqueness to them.

[wild stone]

I can't think of an herb with a devastating enough bite.

[steady lintel]

well theres potentially alot of ceratopsians coming to the game

i doubt the devs would make them all have the same general idea with there abilities

so i dont think it would hurt giving it to one of them

[burnt bone]

I’m just saying we should allow other herbs to also have the potential to have that ability

And not just limit it to ceratopsians

[swift dew]

well proto's main attack is probably going to be a bite, so if any cerotopsian is getting a cool bite ability it should be proto

[burnt bone]

Honestly that would fit the proto perfectly

[wild stone]

It's a pretty unique ability. I would suggest similar abilities for other creatures, but I think this one is special for creatures like avaceratops, that will have a lot of natural predators in a smaller weight class than it, and also it has a low center of mass so it makes sense for it to have some sort of "Stop!" punisher move.

Yeah, proto, that's the one! The one for which there is an example of an actual real-life grapple to the death. How iconic

[burnt bone]

Because of the fossil that has a proto and a raptor fighting and biting eachother

[wild stone]

Yezzir

[burnt bone]

Yeah I definitely agree that that would be a perfect ability on that ceratopsian

[swift dew]

it doesn't seem like it has much in the way of weapons, its bite and it doesn't really have anything else. so I cool bite attack would be perfect for this guy

[burnt bone]

Definitely

[left nacelle]

I agree. But I don't think it would used much cause of its size. Proto is so small that barely anything would be small enough for it to grab onto

Would certainly be neat tho if someone can think of a solution

[burnt bone]

That is the only problem, but there are lots of small carnivores they could fight

And they won’t stand a chance against larger ones anyway

[left nacelle]

Yeah, but I don't think the smaller ones are small enough that it could grab onto them is what I mean

[wild stone]

As smaller things are introduced, it will be more useful. Remember Evrima's roster theme is "small". They've gotten a bit off-focus with Stego and Deino, tbh.

[swift dew]

it can grab onto velo and troodon, maybe even herra. it can also grab onto an ovi that tries to steal its eggs. yeah your right not much to grab onto at that size

[left nacelle]

Yeah, but the issue is that all the smaller things are either the same size as proto, slightly bigger, or just barely smaller. I don't think any of them would be small enough to be grabbed onto unless they're juvies. It could definitely bite and hold onto them, but it wouldn't be able to do much beyond that

[wild stone]

I would allow something like avaceratops to grab onto utah, and have the utah be able to drag it around while it's grabbed it, but remember the goal of the "grappled" creature is to conserve stamina.

[swift dew]

speaking of cerotopsians wth is taco going to do? if proto burrows and taco burrows they are pretty similar

[left nacelle]

I think this ability would fit better on something like styraco or pachyrhino since they don't really have many unique traits. Proto will likely have burrowing

[wild stone]

Burrowing should be allowed for many types of creatures.

[stark dust]

^^

I already have some good ones (entering not making)

Hypsi,juvi Utah,Juvi Austro and maybe troodon

[paper oriole]

all 4 of those sound like things that should only be able to go into burrows not make them

[stark dust]

That is what I meant lol

Oh wait nvm

[paper oriole]

yeah it'd look silly to see any of those guys digging a burrow

[stark dust]

Yea XD

[paper oriole]

also troodon is already pretty saturated with abilities

[stark dust]

Taco should make burrows like the legacy taco

[paper oriole]

taco yeah, maybe he can also use his quills

[stark dust]

Yea

[paper oriole]

austro should rely on speedand his light build so he doesn't need burrows

juvie utah already disappears into foliage easy, hypsi should just have its jump and spit improved

[left nacelle]

Austro's mainly gonna be fishing so, burrows likely won't even be a concern for it

[stark dust]

^

True

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[stark dust]

Troodon in my opinion works

[paper oriole]

eh he already has venom, mimicry, nightvision and is small enough to hide in foliage easily

he doens't also need burrowing

[left nacelle]

I think anything that's small enough should be able to fit in burrows, even herbis

Troodon shouldn't be able to make burrows, but it should be able to enter ones that are already made

[paper oriole]

if there are too many things that can make burrows it kinda makes the ability lame, it should be reserved for dinos that need it more

which troodon definitely does not

[stark dust]

I suppose

I still think it should be Able to raid burrows tho then again it would be overpowered

[left nacelle]

Troodon should at least be able to go inside premade burrows tho. I think it would be odd if it couldn't considering its size

[stark dust]

^

[paper oriole]

anything small should be able to go in appropriately sized burrows, it shouldnt be able to dig up ones too small though

it has a ton of utility as is

[left nacelle]

I think psittaco, homalo, and proto would be the best candidates for digging burrows, and anything smaller than ovi should be able to enter burrows

[paper oriole]

taco should definitely keep it at least

[stark dust]

Yea

[left nacelle]

Yeah, cause I can't think of any way for psittaco to survive without burrows other than making it fast like hypsi

[stark dust]

If taco comes it definitely needs a speed buff

[left nacelle]

Oh it's definitely gonna get one

[paper oriole]

while taco can easily hide in foliage, he likely won't be fast enough to survive a chase agaionst something fit to be in the forest

it should have good fall damage resistance and burrowing, and a quill ability

[left nacelle]

Even if it hides in foliage, whatever's chasing it can just sniff it out

[stark dust]

True

[paper oriole]

yeah hiding only really works if your assailant is a dumbass or you'r ehiding from someone who hasn't seen you yet

[swift dew]

minimi?

[stark dust]

Ok for that

[left nacelle]

Sure, why not

I don't think minmi should dig burrows, but it should be able to enter them

[stark dust]

Austro should be able to enter it minmi den

And baipi

[left nacelle]

Nah, Austro's too big

[paper oriole]

maybe taco can yeet himself down steep drops and brace impact while he ragdolls down to escape predators

god i hope some small herbi or omni gets something like that even if it isnt taco

[stark dust]

Taco is immune to fall damage

[paper oriole]

taco can brace himself to make himself extremely resistant to fall damage at least

[stark dust]

Deino needs an attack buff

[paper oriole]

plus it'd just be funny to see the little fuckers tumbling down cliffs

maybe it can consume stamina each time he absorbs a fall

[left nacelle]

I think psittaco should be able to do something with its face crest horn things. Or maybe it could get a headbutt

[paper oriole]

it could probably chove tiny dinos over

[left nacelle]

That would be neat

[stark dust]

Taco should have a defense mechanism where it can shoot out it’s spine quills on its tail

[left nacelle]

Nahhhhh

I don't like that

[swift dew]

this is probably a stretch, but it would be awesome of oro has skin between its arms and legs and could jump off mountains and glide

i did not mean that pun

[paper oriole]

a headbutt and bite, thorns damage on his tail (maybe the quills can even stick into attackers and make it hurt dinos that try to eat it whole)
a burrow, and a brace to fall down steep slopes

[left nacelle]

Maybe psittaco could swing its tail upwards and stab things behind it. Similar to irl porcupines

[stark dust]

[stark dust]

[left nacelle]

Definitely a stretch imo. I think oro is a bit big to be gliding without using feathers

[paper oriole]

what if

squirrel oro

[left nacelle]

[stark dust]

People might disagree with me but spino should be deino counter meanwhile deino counters Bary and sucho and deino have a even matchup

[paper oriole]

[left nacelle]

Spino's already planned to be a deino counter iirc

[stark dust]

Ah

[left nacelle]

I don't think sucho should be even with deino tho

[paper oriole]

also bary is a mid tier so its kinda a given he'll be countered by deino, but fast enough to escape it

[left nacelle]

Sucho should be a bit weaker than deino. Somewhere between carno and stego

[paper oriole]

he looks like he'd mainly deal bleed damage which deino is resistant to

both bary and sucho look like bleeders

[stark dust]

Bary I can agree with

Sucho it has good to ok damage but more of a bleeder

[left nacelle]

Yeah, most fishers are bleeders, cause of how their snouts are

[paper oriole]

sucho would be slower but stronger and tankier yeah, but still probably average raw damage for his tier

[stark dust]

Isn’t sucho a semi apex

Or mid tier

[paper oriole]

he may be pseudo apex

[left nacelle]

I'd say it's more of a mid tier

It'll likely be weaker than it was in legacy since it can rely on eating fish and it doesn't need to hunt things on land as much

[paper oriole]

he looks more like he'd use his weight and size to overpower targets plus more bleed than raw damage

he'd deter things more often than actually hunt

[stark dust]

Spino,sucho and Bary should have a claw swipe attack

[paper oriole]

bary is more suited for hunting due to speed on land

[left nacelle]

Spino is confirmed to be getting one

[stark dust]

Bary should do the most bleed for the claw swipe cause of its one giant nail

[paper oriole]

pretty sure spino, allo and mos tlikely bary at least are using their claws

i mean they wouldnt have those big arms with the meat hooks to just not use them

[left nacelle]

Most of the theropods will likely use their claws for their alt attacks

If they don't have a standalone claw attack

[stark dust]

Tbh I would not agree with a swipe attack for allo

[left nacelle]

I could see allo using its claws for its alt attack, similar to how utah and tenonto do

[worn pumice]

Allo is mainly gonna use it for a grapple

[barren zephyr]

Just question when is the new interactive water coming?

[worn pumice]

no idea

but its supposed to come in a patch/hotfix

if not it might come with update 4

[drifting rose]

@trail mesa I dont think its showing that of what u said i think its saying "hey if you pounce a teno and it throws u off dont worry you get up really fast" think this also says fall damage while yes still will affect herreras wont be as painful because one. ur recover quick from falls(not fall damage but falls like a cat falling from a building and landing it) and 2 i assume or i hope if u fall u can save ur self by falling into a tree and saving yourself by latching on and if not u will still be able to recover. but thats just what i think they were showing with herrea being thrown by teno and him falling on his back and running away

[left nacelle]

@unkempt musk That would make it nearly impossible for carnivores to sneak up on things. Something would just hear the heartbeat and run

[stark dust]

Yea

[unkempt musk]

no when you know when its there

then when its gone it slows down

[left nacelle]

But how does the game decide whether you know it's there or not?

[unkempt musk]

hmmmmmmmm

good point

[left nacelle]

Ye lol. Plus I feel like it would be a little annoying

[unkempt musk]

yeah i guess

[paper oriole]

overdoing the heartbeat thing gets super annoying

its already there for drowning

[unkempt musk]

i hate how it takes 5 days for the slowmode to reset

oh yeah ture

[left nacelle]

It's 5 hours

[unkempt musk]

oh 5 hours lol

[left nacelle]

They put that there to discourage people from having conversations in #general-feedback, since a lot of people don't notice this channel

[unkempt musk]

oh yeah

[left nacelle]

I believe they put it down to 2 hours recently, but I guess they moved it back up for some reason

[unkempt musk]

oh i see

[minor monolith]

@mint sonnet I think a good system in the future would be for tree trunks/limbs to have relative climbability

as in, smaller dinos who can climb can climb smaller trees and limbs - but not larger ones

so a utah is probably gonna be the worst climber, but can climb large tree trunks or some limbs on massive trees

[mint sonnet]

oooo yeah thats a neat idea

[minor monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKgNGRLKlYY

glimpse into the future of raptors lol

[fallow hill]

anyone else having camera zoom in and out problems sometimes i can zoom out pretty far other times i cant.

[zealous violet]

@barren zephyr Wrong channel, my dude

You posted in general feedback, you should post probs in the isle-discussion for that.

[shell jasper]

@fathom raven #general-feedback is for giving feedback on the isle, you can find information on the updates by scrolling through #announcements

[limber hull]

i think it'd be sick if the Herrera's climbing worked similarly to how Predator Hunting Grounds climbing works

[odd sedge]

I think it'd be rad if Herras wouldn't really fall off while climbing and rather be able to climb around the tree by using A and D. W is up and S is down, Space could be a little “leap“ up the tree. Like a little speed boost with the cost of stamina

Left click bite and right click is for aiming a leap to the next tree.
Just like with Hypsi spit

[limber hull]

yea, so like Predator Hunting Grounds

[odd sedge]

I'm not familiar with that but if it's something like I just said, it'll be dope

[mint sonnet]

augh that would be awesome

[azure wadi]

I’m gonna fall out of trees all the time

[opal kestrel]

Has anyone noticed a reduction in server quality since the switch back to main branch. I was running the QA test servers at over 80 fps and now I am running at 30fps. Even with everything set to low.

[urban flax]

@barren zephyr Dilo doesn't have frills

[barren zephyr]

they don't?

Jurassic park is a lie then

[brave nova]

it is known

[urban flax]

Yes jurassic park is a big lie

[azure wadi]

Well you shouldn’t be taking dino knowledge from a 28 year old movie

[odd sedge]

(Well I mean it was obvious since their velociraptors are like 2 meters tall and don't have feathers)

[brave nova]

and even then they were taking liberties. My favourite part is how they meant to make oversized raptors and they're actually kinda small compared to utah raptors

[barren zephyr]

i didn't believed the velos were that tall though

[trail mesa]

Kinda late I just woke up, but I think the image was meant to show how Herrera can “pounce” something larger than itself and take a piece of flesh of with him. That’s what I was kinda getting at with the ability, how herra can do potentially high damage and also flesh grazing. There’s definitely a piece of meat in herreras mouth, and that was confirmed by filipe

[worn pumice]

this stego suggestion is actually ridiculous meme

[rich owl]

I do not care

[worn pumice]

first of all stego doesnt one shot carno

[rich owl]

it didd

to me

[worn pumice]

even though it should

[rich owl]

fully grown

[worn pumice]

it cant

[rich owl]

IT DID

TO ME

i was 100%

[worn pumice]

nope u must ve been missinh hp

[rich owl]

i wasn't

[worn pumice]

u cannot die by a one shot

[rich owl]

i could have showed u a replay

if i had one

[worn pumice]

its literally not possible

unless u were missing hp

[rich owl]

how would u know

[worn pumice]

dmg numbers

and locational multipliers

[rich owl]

there's different damage spots

head deals the most

[worn pumice]

yes exactly

[rich owl]

i was sitting down

and got hit somewhere i don't know where

but it might have bugged and hit me in the head

=

oneshotting a fully grown carno

[worn pumice]

if u werent at full hp then u would've died

stego technically should be one shotting a carno

but it doesnt rn for balance in the current ecosystem

[rich owl]

well it did

so i don't care

[worn pumice]

honestly even if it did

ur like 18 times faster

theres no excuses

[rich owl]

lion did u even read my entire post

[worn pumice]

yes

[dense vale]

friendly community

[worn pumice]

"If a full level stego can just 1 swing a fully grown carno with full health this is gonna change how people look at the game from being realistic to just a few dinosaurs being playable meanwhile the others are just way too underpowered or completely useless."

have u seen utah?

utah destroys stegos who arent good in packs

[rich owl]

u didn't read my entire post

"Personally i would say buff the health of the stego or make it more immune to bleed and then nerf the tail swipe damage a lot."

[worn pumice]

thats stupid tho

[rich owl]

how

it's armored

[worn pumice]

why would u debuff stegos tail lol

[urban flax]

How is stego armored

[worn pumice]

its literally the slowest thing in the game

theres no excuses to how u die to it

idc what u say

[carmine path]

Prob meant tanky

[worn pumice]

stego is anything but tanky

[carmine path]

Ehh

[worn pumice]

sure it seems like it has a lot of hp

[rich owl]

@worn pumice and how would u know

tell me

[worn pumice]

4500 hp isnt a lot

it seems like it is

[robust vine]

tbh, realistically a carno wouldn't survive being impaled by a stego. i dont think most things could.

[rich owl]

[carmine path]

Ehh subjective rn

[worn pumice]

wait till other apexes come in

[rich owl]

@worn pumice i'm talking about real life

[carmine path]

Objective then

[worn pumice]

?

[rich owl]

but then the carno would hang on the stegos tail

[worn pumice]

real life doesnt matter that much in a game about hyper dinos lol

[rich owl]

and slow the stego down too much so it wouldn't be able to even walk at all

[worn pumice]

I dont get the issue ur facing

[robust vine]

and humans existing with dinos XD

[carmine path]

Well its not based around hyper dinos and were still trying to be realistic here

[rich owl]

The goal of the game was to be realistic

[worn pumice]

the goal of the game to be realistic

with a few strains

and also humans along side dinosaurs

[hybrid matrix]

bro seriously? the carno is big enough that it slides off the spikes

[still raptor]

@rich owl A carno isn't supposed to take on a Stego.

[rich owl]

Have u ever had ur knife stuck?

[robust vine]

i have no clue how the devs will balance that out

[rich owl]

IT RAN UP ON ME

[hybrid matrix]

WOAH WOAH WOAH

[carmine path]

Be aware of your surroundings

[hybrid matrix]

U GOT KILLED AS A CARNO LIKE THAT

[worn pumice]

if this was the case we'd be getting a think they said they'll make guns and things of that nature extremely hard to find

[rich owl]

stego*

[dense vale]

i have no clue what humans will be like in game

[hybrid matrix]

no no, u said u were the carno

[worn pumice]

lmfao a stego ran up to u and killed ur carno

[rich owl]

i didn't

stop

[carmine path]

What

[worn pumice]

theres no buffs or debuffs required here

just pay more attention

[rich owl]

mhm

[still raptor]

If you died to a carno as a stego, you're bad at the game.

[rich owl]

cause the game isn't in beta right now

[carmine path]

Bro my entire brain is fucking boggled he said he was a stego not carno

[rich owl]

cause it got released today

i see

[still raptor]

You're right, it's in Alpha

[worn pumice]

or maybe itz the fact that stego is the slowest thing in the game lol

[rich owl]

where did i say that a carno killed me

tell me

[worn pumice]

just sounds like ur salty

[still raptor]

You're implying it.

[hybrid matrix]

I DIDNT FUCKING SAY THAT

[still raptor]

And it sounds like you died as a Carno for taking on a stego

[rich owl]

ofc i'm salty when the game is unballanced

[hybrid matrix]

I SAID THAT U, AS A CARNO, DIED TO A STEGO THAN RAN UP ON U

[worn pumice]

ah yes its completely unbalanced right

[rich owl]

it ran up on me in a forest meanwhile i was drinking water

[rich owl]

and i couldn't run away cause i was in the drinking animation

[dense vale]

im so confused theres 2 of them ?

[worn pumice]

let go of E and run lol

[hybrid matrix]

this is the dumbest excuse ever lmfao

[worn pumice]

i do it all the time

[rich owl]

and it hit me once with the tail and oneshotted my entire pack, we we're 4 carnos together

[worn pumice]

u cant one shot fully grown carnos as a stego no matter what u do

[still raptor]

Then that's your fault for being unaware of your surroundings.

[rich owl]

1 stego killed 4 carnos with 1 tail swipe, 1 fully grown carno with full health and 3 sub adults

[rich owl]

i wasn't unaware i was stuck in an animation

[rich owl]

stop

[worn pumice]

no hes right (or she)

[rich owl]

isn't an excuse

[carmine path]

Meme i think your on to something, you could be a genius guess that is why you have one more chromosome than the normal human being(all jokes) but i do think you should be aware of your surroundings more

[worn pumice]

if u just looked around and saw the fat ass stego rolling to u

[rich owl]

u know the shallow area?

[worn pumice]

u coulda ran away

[still raptor]

Literally its a survival game. Survival of the fittest.

[carmine path]

Does it really matter

[still raptor]

You don't have to engage in any fights

[rich owl]

if u don't pay attention to the crocs and the other side u will die

[still raptor]

You can just run away

[worn pumice]

carno is literally the fastest thing in the game theres 0 excuses to how u died to a stego

[hybrid matrix]

yes it fucking is
a sock full of oranges could take a 3rd grade math test and get a higher score than you

[rich owl]

how many times do i have to say that i never even tried to hurt the stego

[carmine path]

Look both ways thats what my mom taught me tf did yours teach you

[still raptor]

Well, if the Stego approached you, you should've backed off.

[worn pumice]

again the issue is u werent paying attention

[rich owl]

i saw a pack of raptors on the other side so i wanted to pay attention to them and not behind me'

[rich owl]

it is not

[still raptor]

1 Carno and 2 subs don't do shit do a Stego

[dense vale]

or theres a non 0 chance theres actually a bug and your all going on over false assumptions

[worn pumice]

ok but how is this stegos fault or carnos fault or the games fault??

[carmine path]

So........ how is this a balance issue?

[rich owl]

issue is that a stego can just run with full force and make no noice and end up oneshotting 4 carnos with 1 tailswipe

[rich owl]

^^

[carmine path]

Noice

[worn pumice]

what

[still raptor]

Then why are we in general feedback?

[worn pumice]

[carmine path]

Why are you ^^^ when i asked a question

[hybrid matrix]

alr theres only one thing i can say

@rich owl

git gud

[rich owl]

it's a general problem in the game that the stegos are just imune to damage and oneshot everything

[brave nova]

Stego doesn't one shot carno, what are you even on about @rich owl

[still raptor]

Yea, it one shots a Deino

[carmine path]

L2P reactions inbound

[odd sedge]

Bro, that is creative

[still raptor]

Get the fuck outta here

[rich owl]

to read the above message

[rich owl]

it 8 taps a deino

[worn pumice]

9\

[brave nova]

In fact stegos get absolutely trashed by carnos

[rich owl]

but the deino can't move away from the stego bcs it's stuck behind the tail

[hybrid matrix]

feel free to use it if u get into an argument with someone

[rich owl]

i've seen it so many times

[odd sedge]

Thank you, pal!

[worn pumice]

wtf is this statement

[still raptor]

Then that's the Deinos fault for engaging in a fight that they know is super risky.

besides Deino v Stego is a 50/50 with both being competent players.

[rich owl]

i know it's the deinos fault but we're not talking about deinos right now are we?

[carmine path]

Your joking right?

[rich owl]

no i didn't think so

[carmine path]

It is not 50/50

[worn pumice]

i wouldnt say 50/50

[carmine path]

At all

[hybrid matrix]

maybe dont fight on land if ur a deino, u salmon sushimi-brained oak tree

[worn pumice]

but its possible if ur competent

[still raptor]

Dude, we've tested it out numerous times. It's whoever gets the first hit in.

[rich owl]

it is a 0.001/99.999

[brave nova]

nah, we're talking about how a carno dying to a stego is a complete l2p issue and doesn't mean the stego needs a nerf

[worn pumice]

ill say it again stego doesnt one shot carno

it cant literally

[carmine path]

Does it oneshot headshot?

[worn pumice]

if its at full hp

[rich owl]

tell me how it is

[worn pumice]

no at a head shot it will u at 5% hp

[rich owl]

it does

[worn pumice]

it doesnt

[rich owl]

i don't care what u say

bcs it does

[worn pumice]

it doesnt lmao

[rich owl]

happened to me

so it does

[carmine path]

Bad

[still raptor]

For both creatures.

[brave nova]

it doesn't though

[worn pumice]

im on a tsting server ik my numbers

it cant one shot a carno

[carmine path]

Meme it is physically impossible to get one-shotted as a carno to a stego

[odd sedge]

God I can't-
I'm dying over here

[worn pumice]

^

[brave nova]

a competent carno can walk all over a stego, nerfing the stego will just make it an even more unfair fight

[rich owl]

how did it happen to me

[rich owl]

that's why i'm saying nerf the damage and buff the health

[worn pumice]

theres something missing either stego attacked twice or u were missing some hp

[hybrid matrix]

scars

[carmine path]

Prob bit you a few times and swung

[odd sedge]

You broke space and time

[rich owl]

he ran up on me behind me

[hybrid matrix]

scars

guys

gius

[rich owl]

and tailwiped once and oneshotted me

[dense vale]

the game never has bugs either

[hybrid matrix]

GIUSUusiS

GUYS ITS SCArs

[carmine path]

Lets be realistic here

[tepid gate]

@rich owl You either didn't have full health or you had some locked health. Cano survives a headshot from Stegosaurus with a tiny bit of hp.

[worn pumice]

it cant one shot carno

it just cant

[brave nova]

what? make the fight safer for the carno in return for extending it a bit? You make me laugh

[carmine path]

I got it big brain

[rich owl]

well maybe i had locked health at 97% then

[worn pumice]

no even then u'd survive

[rich owl]

i didn't see any blood on my screen

[hybrid matrix]

wut does l2p mean

[carmine path]

Nah he simply bled out technically that is a one shot

[worn pumice]

something is missing here

[tepid gate]

@rich owl that would very likely be enough. From what I've been told any locked health as Carno makes you die to a headshot from Stego.

[carmine path]

Learn 2 play

[worn pumice]

learn 2 play

[hybrid matrix]

ah ok

[worn pumice]

dammit u said it first

[brave nova]

Stego ran up on him! that settles it. stego OP plz nerf

[carmine path]

Gotcha bitch 😎

[worn pumice]

[rich owl]

that explains it then but locked health shouldn't affect the amount of health u currently have

[carmine path]

Could just make a noise complaint issue 🧐

[tepid gate]

@rich owl It does

[brave nova]

learn to play

[worn pumice]

locked hp makes a certain part of ur hp hard to heal for awhile

[tepid gate]

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "it shouldn't affect the amount of health you currently have"

[carmine path]

Bit late bud

[still raptor]

But @rich owl the point of this is not to engage in any fight if you feel like you can't or are unable to fight. Even if they other player is chasing you, you can use the environment to your advantage.

[tepid gate]

The way it works is you can't heal up a certain amount of hp.

[brave nova]

years late, everyone should know this

[carmine path]

Juke em through the bushes

[still raptor]

Or cross a river and wallow

[rich owl]

@tepid gate i know but if i'm locked at 97% hp i shouldn't have less than 97%

[carmine path]

Stam says no

[still raptor]

Deino says yes lmao

[hybrid matrix]

well then Say no to stam!

[worn pumice]

even if stego one shots carno whats the big deal about it?

[carmine path]

Deino says free meal

[tepid gate]

If you had 97% of health you could've been oneshot by a Stego just fyi.

[rich owl]

i didn't chase anyone, the stego simply ran up behind me and tailwiped me once and i died to it as a fully grown carno

didn't even try to harm it

[worn pumice]

then thats ur fault not the games fault

just pay more attention

[carmine path]

Yo meme ima be honest with you

Like straight ip

Up*

[hybrid matrix]

describe the scene and DONT LEAVE OUT ANY FUCKING DETAILS MAN

[odd sedge]

Then use your damn LEGS and do what CarnoI is best at

[tepid gate]

But that doesn't matter, you simply didn't pay attention to it in time. If you were looking at raptors on the other side of the river then you made a mistake of not paying attention to what behind you. If there was a hidden Deino behind you and it lunged you from the land then drowned you in a river would you also as for a nerf to Deinosuchus?

[robust vine]

Did you see the stego run up to you

[carmine path]

No one cares. You made a mistake and you payed for it this is your fault entirely, if you wanna make a sound complaint that stego should be louder when moving go ahead but don’t blame balance

[still raptor]

I bet there's more to the story than you're letting on. It's 1,000% possible that you're telling the absolute truth and you ran into a Aggro Stego. But there's also the possibility that you're leaving key info out to spread your narrative.

[carmine path]

Stegos are dicks tbh

[still raptor]

Can be yes.

[tepid gate]

There's a very high chance that he ran into an aggro Stego.

There's a tonne of aggressive stegos in the game

[carmine path]

Not can be ARE

[brave nova]

the stego used it's unparalleled stealth and speed to run up on him while he was minding his own business, what is there to leave out

[worn pumice]

yes

[rich owl]

a stego ran up behind me in the shallow area (forest north of center) and oneshotted me

[worn pumice]

so...... whats the balance issue???

[carmine path]

Well there isn’t reasoning with someone who isn’t gonna listen

[worn pumice]

convo over right?

[hybrid matrix]

oh idk
maybe... THISS???? dramatically pulls out piece of skin from pocket care to explain @rich owl

[rich owl]

stegos are too powerful

[worn pumice]

[still raptor]

No.......they aren't.

[worn pumice]

utahs exist

[carmine path]

It smells like sugar cookies from publix, im tired and need sleep

[tepid gate]

Tbh there might be something that could be done about Stegosaurus. To a large extent this animal suffers due to the fact that it either oneshots its targets or gets cheesed to the death by them unable to fight back.

[brave nova]

stegos are pushovers

[worn pumice]

actually their underpowered

[odd sedge]

dramatic music plays

zoom on meme

[carmine path]

False

[carmine path]

False

[storm scroll]

hi discord dwellers

[worn pumice]

changed ur name?

oh wait

nvm

[storm scroll]

raptor is better than stego 🙂

[worn pumice]

false

[storm scroll]

shut up

[hearty bear]

[storm scroll]

🙂

[carmine path]

In groups

[storm scroll]

no

i solo stegos

[brave nova]

no it's true, carnos and utahs can cheese stego's slow attacks all day and kill them

[hybrid matrix]

bro this is an alt account

[worn pumice]

big spiky tail hurts

[hybrid matrix]

@rich owl come talk to us

[carmine path]

Cause of speed that doesn’t mean he is underpowered tho

[rich owl]

it's not an alt

[storm scroll]

solo raptor is better 🙂

[rich owl]

do i know u?

[odd sedge]

It's the same profile pic just switched xd

[worn pumice]

imagine playing raptor

[tepid gate]

If that is the case how about giving Stego faster but weaker attacks so that it doesn't oneshot people but it can actually land them even on fast, agile targets?

[rich owl]

go general 1

everyone

[hybrid matrix]

yeah
i said that ur dumber than a sock full of oranges, remember?

[rich owl]

go general 1

[carmine path]

Imagine playing stego

[hybrid matrix]

remember my crowning insult?

[worn pumice]

imagine playing the isle in general

[storm scroll]

he won

[rich owl]

general 1

come

[worn pumice]

scam game

[rich owl]

true

[dense vale]

un-delete stegos main attack

[worn pumice]

lol

[storm scroll]

raptor is better than stego

[odd sedge]

[storm scroll]

i solo all stegos 🙂

[worn pumice]

in ur dreams its better

[rich owl]

join general 1

[worn pumice]

[brave nova]

tbh, I like bleeding them slowly while they helplessly flail their tail around

[storm scroll]

no it is you're just dog water at raptor

[rich owl]

are u coming?

[hybrid matrix]

no

[rich owl]

u asked me to come and now we're waiting for u

[storm scroll]

just dodge the attacks from the stego

[tepid gate]

As it is Stego either instagibs its opponent or gets slowly worn down without being really able to land a single hit due to how slow their attacks are.

[hybrid matrix]

thats not how it works wtf

[worn pumice]

i have yet to be killed by a solo raptor as a stego

[rich owl]

scared?

[brave nova]

And stegos are not bad in a group, tbf

[storm scroll]

cuz most raptors are bad they think its that raptor is underpowered

raptor really is the strongest hands up

[tepid gate]

I think that the fact that Stego can get cheesed by a single raptor is kind of ridiculous but at the same time the fact that Stego outright oneshots the majority of the roster is also rather absurd.

[rich owl]

^^

[odd sedge]

Bro why we taking about naked utahs now?

[hybrid matrix]

no, and if u think that i am then ur brain is smaller than a date

[storm scroll]

im a proffesional raptor player i play for Deez

[rich owl]

why are u not proving ur not scared and join vc?

[worn pumice]

oh no professional raptor player

[storm scroll]

my sponsors are Team Sukon

[hybrid matrix]

bc i dont have to?
ur the only one who thinks that im scared

u prove nothing to no one if i dont join vc

and it proves nothing to no one if i DO join vc

[rich owl]

prove ur not scared and join vc

[brave nova]

professional raptor player = streams for 3 people on twitch?

[odd sedge]

Probably because no one wants to hear a five year old screeching about how his speed lizard got wrecked

[worn pumice]

whats goin on

[rich owl]

i'm not 5 years old

[storm scroll]

im the best raptor player out there

[rich owl]

try again buddy

[hybrid matrix]

no icky's right

[rich owl]

join vc

[storm scroll]

[rich owl]

scared ?

[worn pumice]

r u guys the same person lol

same pfp

[storm scroll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCb2AMYVGTc

[rich owl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGq1Q2Cevxs&ab_channel=TheGreatLordDerptah

[storm scroll]

the content

[hybrid matrix]

oh, dyu like the video?

[storm scroll]

yeah man

i love it

[rich owl]

ur not even talking in the videos

[hybrid matrix]

u realize that by clicking on my videos i benefit

[rich owl]

i think u're scared of ur own voice

[storm scroll]

you wouldnt believe me but ive been subbed to you since before this

[odd sedge]

Who says they have to?

[hybrid matrix]

if u look at all of my other videos you'll find otherwise

[still raptor]

Why does he have to talk in his content?

[worn pumice]

#general-feedback-discussion

[still raptor]

So you're calling people who don't use face cams in streams scared because of their appearance?

[hybrid matrix]

no guys i do actually talk in my videos, i just didnt in the last two bc i didnt need commentary in such beautiful creations

[rich owl]

so u're 12

[hybrid matrix]

ur the one acting like a 12 yr old

[worn pumice]

how'd u come to that conclusion lol

[storm scroll]

[worn pumice]

is the whole stego convo over now?

[rich owl]

it wasn't an insult i just asked a question

[worn pumice]

if so ima peace out

[rich owl]

cause it would make a lot of sense if u are 12 years old

[still raptor]

Yes.

[storm scroll]

Love this game. It's spooky, and I love it, and it's awesome.

[worn pumice]

ight cheers

[still raptor]

Now it's just an argument because people don't want to join and talk, which is the most depressing argument ever.

[hybrid matrix]

even if i am 12, at least my insults are magnitudes better than this garbage

[odd sedge]

Even if lol their arguments and opinions are universes better than yours

[rich owl]

u shouldn't cyberbully online

[brittle ivy]

Discuss feedback, not owning each other

I’ll begin to mute otherwise

[hybrid matrix]

ok 👍

[still raptor]

So since the Stego v Carno convo is over, lets just stop.

[hybrid matrix]

i'll stop

[rich owl]

anyway stegos are too op

[hybrid matrix]

but this was fun

[rich owl]

pls nerf

[carmine path]

Meme

[storm scroll]

stego is worse than raptor

[carmine path]

Please

[storm scroll]

🙂

[worn pumice]

r u guys both trolls or something?

[still raptor]

Yes

[storm scroll]

i solo every stego out there waht server you play on ill come hunt you solo

i promise

[hybrid matrix]

no but i think theyre related maybe

[carmine path]

Shut up if you don’t have any reasoning to support this besides your clear BIAS

[hybrid matrix]

they both just joined my server

[storm scroll]

im not trolling lmao

im better than you

🙂

professional raptor player btw

[worn pumice]

def a troll

[rich owl]

dude ur server is so good

[storm scroll]

ok buddy dont hate me because i claim to be better than you at raptor lol

[rich owl]

this

[carmine path]

Whuh why are you?

[storm scroll]

which is fact btw

[worn pumice]

i dont even play raptor lol

[storm scroll]

ok then dont talk lol

[worn pumice]

what

[still raptor]

what?

[worn pumice]

ur trolling

[rich owl]

the fortnite burger

[storm scroll]

you hate on me for what reason?

[worn pumice]

?

[carmine path]

Stego 🤮

[odd sedge]

[storm scroll]

im not im stating factual evidence that i solo any stego

[worn pumice]

better then utah

[storm scroll]

and you're saying im trolling which is hating

so yikes to you kid

[worn pumice]

lol

[rich owl]

trueeeeeeeee

[carmine path]

Mega cap detected

[worn pumice]

[storm scroll]

he knows it

[carmine path]

[worn pumice]

im sniffing a lot of cap

[carmine path]

You aren’t allowed to agree with me

[brittle ivy]

Hop into #401464048610312195 if you’re not going to contribute to an actual discussion, @rich owl @storm scroll

[digital belfry]

we rly need a 20 min slowmode here

[halcyon geyser]

Exactly, back on topic, feedback.

[worn pumice]

holy shit pls no

[carmine path]

Fuck no

[storm scroll]

[carmine path]

Are you crazy?

[halcyon geyser]

Okay, anyone have any other concerns. Let's get the ball rolling again.

[worn pumice]

i might actually die if that happens lol

nope convo is over now

[brittle ivy]

20min cool down isn’t going to happen, please don’t panic.

[halcyon geyser]

I meant new convo

[storm scroll]

ok i have a good contribution hold on

[halcyon geyser]

Back to feedback, new topic

[carmine path]

Just the thought 😱

[worn pumice]

[brittle ivy]

Perish the thought :p

Onto feedback discussion

[storm scroll]

ok so less team damage on your party members should be a thing 🙂

[urban flax]

It's already a thing

[storm scroll]

issit?

[worn pumice]

isnt that already in

ye

[storm scroll]

increase it

[urban flax]

no

[worn pumice]

y

[odd sedge]

Nah

[rich owl]

if u're in a squad u should do 200% more damage to them

[storm scroll]

im a juve and i get killed by my friendly carno friend

[odd sedge]

[brittle ivy]

This is not pertaining to recent feedback in #general-feedback, please converse only about posts within that channel.

[rich owl]

ok

[brittle ivy]

Otherwise go to #401464048610312195

[storm scroll]

look again sir

[rich owl]

yeah damage should be either 200% or 20%

[carmine path]

We can discuss future posts and make our concepts in here too tho right?

[odd sedge]

Oof

[storm scroll]

dude i posted the less damage to party members since yesterday

if you scroll up you can see i did

[brittle ivy]

Best to do that in isle discussion, it clogs conversation about posts in the feedback channel otherwise.

[carmine path]

Man you’re just a troll

[storm scroll]

im being serious about the less party damage

[still raptor]

Both of them are.

[odd sedge]

Already in

[rich owl]

how are we trolling

[carmine path]

You have shut down the entirety of General Feedback all that flows in here is concepts 😂

[rich owl]

stegos are op and party damage difference should be a thing

[storm scroll]

so what do we talk in here about if not for ideas?

[brittle ivy]

It’s how this channel is meant to be used.

[storm scroll]

@brittle ivy start a convo about something

[brave nova]

Try not to hit your party members instead of expecting the game to punish you less for doing so.

[brittle ivy]

Discuss the feedback posted in #general-feedback-discussion.

[odd sedge]

Bro

[carmine path]

🤷🏽‍♂️. Im just saying thats how we interpret it

[rich owl]

no because i want to hit my friends sometimes

[brittle ivy]

I’m going to mute you if you don’t start talking about something relevant in here.

[still raptor]

If you want to have a random conversation go to offtopic.

[odd sedge]

☝️

[rich owl]

but i want to bite my friends sometimes

[odd sedge]

What?

[rich owl]

u heard me

[still raptor]

Why

[rich owl]

to test damage

[odd sedge]

[storm scroll]

im scared to say anything now cuz the mod might think its not contributing but uuh less night time is a good idea

[rich owl]

i feel like the carno should do twice the damage at night time meanwhile the others should do 75% of their damage if u're in a party

[worn pumice]

funny how this whole thing is a meme now

ironic

[odd sedge]

You are just trolling now

[rich owl]

how?

[storm scroll]

nah id say party members depending on which stage you're at should receive less damage so if youre a juve you dont get 1 shotted by a full adult who parties with you

[still raptor]

Takes his Carno bias and literally is making it a meme.

[rich owl]

it would make the game more interesting

[still raptor]

It would make the game shit.

[worn pumice]

literally

[odd sedge]

It makes no sense

[rich owl]

i said interesting not that it would make sense

[worn pumice]

[rich owl]

like how a stego can 1 tap a carno

[odd sedge]

[rich owl]

that doesn't make sense

[still raptor]

If you feel like this about the game. Join QA.

[worn pumice]

sad times

[rich owl]

but it's interesting that it can

[odd sedge]

It cant

[rich owl]

happened to me so it can

[storm scroll]

hey meme you're not "contributing" as the mod said

every word you say should "contribute"

[dense vale]

round 2

[storm scroll]

[still raptor]

Just shitposting at this point.

[rich owl]

[odd sedge]

I'm taking mental damage reading the chat right now

[storm scroll]

ok krayt give us a topic

[brittle ivy]

Back to relevant discussion.

[worn pumice]

uhhhh

[halcyon geyser]

Anyway, the camera idea. About being able to grab them and take off with them, I think it'd be hilarious.

[worn pumice]

did they disable nvida game filter

[carmine path]

I think we are past that point

[pale bloom]

Did I miss something with the last patch? I just read something about Stego 1 shooting Carno consistently

[halcyon geyser]

Or some sort of shenaniganry with human buildings, knock over barrels or something.

[brave nova]

he's just trolling, pay him no mind

[worn pumice]

their trolls

[still raptor]

No, people being dumbasses and trolling.

[worn pumice]

stego cant do it

[pale bloom]

Ok because I thought exactly that

What a troll

[still raptor]

Trying to incite a flamewar too.

Which indeed happened.

[brittle ivy]

Move on, folks.

[still raptor]

So what about a better map?

[worn pumice]

oh ye we got jace now right

[odd sedge]

Wanna talk about Herra attacks?

[pale bloom]

Level designer got hired so yes

[brittle ivy]

Reminder:

[halcyon geyser]

Agreed, and I'm talking about the one suggestion that Feral made with messing with cameras. Why not other items in the environment? Raptors stealing stuff like scrap metal from each other, bumping barrels around, etc.

[hybrid matrix]

guys i was thinking of suggesting a quick jump for all dinos

[brave nova]

let's talk about whether or not the game should let you get away with friendly fire on the cheap instead

[brittle ivy]

Please converse about what has been posted in #general-feedback

[worn pumice]

anky jumping

[hybrid matrix]

i mean as a way to escape a lunge

shut

fine

or wait actually

[worn pumice]

lol

[hybrid matrix]

its a jump for most creatures

[pale bloom]

Mmm "Press S to dodge" while drinking

[hybrid matrix]

for heavier creatures its a stumble backwards

[hybrid matrix]

sorta

[worn pumice]

honestly just make dinos over the weight class un able to dodge

[urban flax]

Or a rear-up ?

[brave nova]

since that is somehow something the devs want

[hybrid matrix]

yeas

[pale bloom]

It should have really small frame window making it so you need reflexes to perform it, anyways I wouldn't to add a complicated mechanic like that to make Deinos have hard time ambushing which it's their strongest ability

Sounds good on paper but better make avoiding the lunges with the self movement

[burnt bone]

well that can be hard to do with latency and cause problems later on

at the moment, crocs are just swarming rivers because of the hype

[pale bloom]

Yeah that's why I wouldn't add such mechanic, sounds complex

[burnt bone]

hopefully when it dies down, there will be much less of them and the waters will me much safer

or more dangerous because there are less to worry about and cause the pack scent

[pale bloom]

Deino is one of the coolest if not the most fun playable at the moment so people will most likely play it a lot til the next big update

[burnt bone]

yeah

but it is not as fun when everyone is playing it

[worn pumice]

all the rex mains r playing deino

or stego mainly deino

[hybrid matrix]

EXCUSE ME BUT WTF???
DOES PTERA NOT EXIST IN UR MIND???

[brittle ivy]

Return to conversation about feedback posts left in #general-feedback.

[dense vale]

if servers are really stealing names from big servers thats pretty wack, i didnt check tho

[brittle ivy]

@burnt bone Please use this channel to reply to feedback posts and further discuss. The #general-feedback channel is for posting suggestions and/or feedback only.

I’ll be muting people from here on who do not adhere to my warnings.

[inner tide]

@torn brook u just have to quick log and it will be fixed

apparentlly thats what people have told me

[torn brook]

I appreciate the help but it did not work, this is the third time, my dinos may as well jump off a cliff

[worn pumice]

did someone ping me?

[inner tide]

yeah rip idk then

[frank matrix]

What if some dinos had heat vision

What if some dinos had heat vision

[urban flax]

@clear escarp There is a public roadmap
And you're not getting any more precise info than that, devs don't do etas

[brittle ivy]

@clear escarp In a future update. Please do not ask for ETA’s, I will direct you to the #rules-and-info in asking such.

[frank matrix]

What if some dinos had heat vision in the isle in the night

[urban flax]

Seems like it'd require a lot of additionnal programming

[frank matrix]

But be worth it

[urban flax]

not really

[brittle ivy]

You can post suggestions in #general-feedback or ask about them in #401464048610312195. This channel is specifically meant to converse about topics posted in #general-feedback.

[frank matrix]

Ok

[sonic mural]

Nah that would just be unfair for the other dinos if some had heat vision being able to find anything small and almost never going hungry

And would defeat the whole purpose of having night vision if some of the dinos would have heat vision/a better more op night vision

[molten tulip]

Why were you running out of the water at a stego

You deserved that

[digital belfry]

xD

[crude girder]

Why would you tag punchpacket for that?

[sonic mural]

XD

[worn pumice]

bro poor punch man

prolly already got 1800 dm's a day

[brittle ivy]

@digital vessel You can respond to feedback in this channel only. Also, don’t tag Punch without reason, he is extremely busy and feedback response does not warrant a tag.

[worn pumice]

@torn brook no DC's r fixed

if u start out as a baby utah try logging out waiting a min

and relogging back in

losing dinos is fixed now

oh

[torn brook]

I was playing with someone, was ejected from the server, my dino was a child, I waited, logged in, logged out, checked again, still a child

[worn pumice]

maybe u died

if its not that then idk

[torn brook]

@worn pumice No, I was walking down the river with someone, I was nearly full grown, they were small, when logging back in I was way back near a spawn on top of a rock where pteras perch

[worn pumice]

idk then

try asking an admin

if u were in a community server

they might have answers

[clear escarp]

Oh Yeah, that sounds really good. 😍

[frank matrix]

Thank you

[sonic mural]

It’s not a good idea

[ebon wyvern]

I am having an issue, I can't seem to hit escape to get to my settings. I am told this is a bug. Is there a fix?

[barren zephyr]

It does have a lot of potential, but what species would fit that "niche"?

[sonic mural]

It’d be stupidly op lmao

[barren zephyr]

Depends on how implemented and what has it.

[frank matrix]

Make the littel dinos use it

[sonic mural]

Nothing will be able to sneak up on u tho making u nearly impossible to kill since u can see almost anything nearby

[urban flax]

It will be stupidly op against other small dinos

[clear escarp]

only if the dinosaurus is strong

[frank matrix]

You can use mud to hide from it

Or water

[sonic mural]

And deinosuchus would be seen in the water making its ambush useless

[barren zephyr]

Maybe Titanoboa could have it (if we get it) since it will be fricked if caught out of water anyway, this could give it an early warning.

[urban flax]

You can't always roll in mud or hide in water

Especially when something is seeing you through a wall

[frank matrix]

The dino in water cant be seen by heat vision

[carmine path]

Titanaboa doesn’t have heat vision is has heat sensors...

[barren zephyr]

Or maybe some strain could have it.

[urban flax]

Could work for a strain

But there's still the problem of programming it

[barren zephyr]

What about Titano?

[urban flax]

The only way I would see it work without requiring tons of programming would be to make dinos emit signals

[urban flax]

idk, we don't know how fictionalized titanoboa will be

[frank matrix]

Are limiting the heat vision radius

[barren zephyr]

I'm sure it will be the snake beipi. Although that may not be a bad thing...

[carmine path]

Anyone think Deinos water sense ability needs a bit more range?

[sonic mural]

U gotta sniff underwater to make the range go farther I think

[urban flax]

wdym the snake beipi ? What's its similarities with beipi ?

[frank matrix]

Are limiting the heat vision radius to 20 meters

[barren zephyr]

I just meant with fictionalization.

[carmine path]

Doesn’t the sniffing thing take like 1min tho and it only lasts for like 10 whole seconds

[charred lotus]

Isn't it said about the Type-N Spino to have Heat Vision in the concept-art?

[sonic mural]

Idk

[barren zephyr]

Not sure, it would be cool tho.

[carmine path]

I haven’t kept on strains in the slightest

[urban flax]

That doesn't mean much. Everything depends of whether they want titanoboa to be able to go on land, how fast it will be, how tanky, how powerful its bite will be...

[sonic mural]

If it does rip everything in the game lmao

[urban flax]

It's far from being its worst ability

[barren zephyr]

Ok...? That's pretty much what I meant.

[sonic mural]

I haven’t seen the concept art of it so what is its worst ability

[urban flax]

Neuro spino is said to be able to telepathically communicate with other dinos and maybe control them, its proximity dulls their senses and blinds them, I'm not sure but maybe it can also control weather

[sonic mural]

Oh lord

[charred lotus]

https://isle.fandom.com/wiki/Neurotenic_Spinosaurus

[barren zephyr]

O Boy Yipee

[charred lotus]

I also was right, it's written that the Neuro has Thermal Tracking Abilities

[sonic mural]

I’m gonna die lol

[frank matrix]

Deinosuchus is a reptile it's cold blooded

[barren zephyr]

Well that's nightmare fuel.

[urban flax]

Oh it also had telekinesis

I'm so hyped for neuro strains

[carmine path]

They making Type-N Spino OP as fuck

[urban flax]

It's a strain

[charred lotus]

Meh.... That was Legacy, we'll see if the Strains make it to this game or not

[urban flax]

An apex strain

[ebon wyvern]

Why did they take away the global chat entirely? Will make it difficult to contact admins on the server I play on. Is this going to be perminant?

[carmine path]

Mans gonna have a damn built i. Radar system

[barren zephyr]

Will we see strains after everything else is already implemented?

[urban flax]

They will

[urban flax]

I hope we can get them shortly after humans are implemented

[carmine path]

I’ll see you in 10years when that statement is factual

[sonic mural]

It could be permaneant but a lot of ppl are saying it should be a toggle thing for servers which I agree on so it could change

[digital vessel]

Yeah game still is crashing

[barren zephyr]

Strains are awesome, but I think it best to see them after we have a significantly larger roster.

[ebon wyvern]

@sonic mural I hope so....having the different channels to talk in was a nice touch to the games social enviroment.