general-feedback-discussion

[lapis owl]

yeah thats the thing, more servers would cost more money

[swift dew]

there is at least 400 people trying to get into each server, doubling the amount of servers would still be hell to get in

[lapis owl]

yeah but in every server, there are people leaving and joining

so theres more oppertunities

[digital nest]

lotta people go absolutely rabid to get into stress test servers, adding more would just encourage more people to try out the stress test branch thus leading to the same issue of people not being able to get in and it would just wind up costing even more money for the dev team

[lapis owl]

yeah that might happen, many people might not even be bothering because the servers are hard to get into

[digital nest]

I think there's enough as is, unless they suddenly add like 20+ out of the blue I doubt adding any less than that would solve the current issue. It's just that update are in extremely high demand so people will jump on it

[paper oriole]

Beipiaosaurus and minmi are two aquatic dinos already planned so deino won't be there alone. Diplo would be fodder he is tiny @pastel flicker

[lapis owl]

i think allowing private servers would do the trick, but its still early in development so probably not

[digital nest]

it's better to just keep what we got till stress test goes fully public

[icy lion]

even then, the stress test is almost over, so hopefully it wont take too long for all servers to get the new update

[pastel flicker]

Oh, lol I didn’t realise they were aquatic lol, ty

[lapis owl]

yeah im not angry I think the devs have done a really good job, ive only crashed once in over 40 hours, and that was while i was in the main menu, so no risk to my dino, and very few bugs.

[swift dew]

oh yeah, and if you didnt know bary, sucho, spino, and austro are also coming and going to be semi-aquatic

[paper oriole]

Deinos are going to make occasional bubbles and also ripples when they love quickly so it'll be easier to spot a bad deino coming your way

Least thats what ive heard

[tepid river]

Adding more servers would just be a very expensive temporary solution to being able to get into the test imo, it's not free for the developers to run them after all. The test is almost over, and when the update is live, there will be plenty of servers to choose from

[paper oriole]

Things like poison ivy and thorns could be a way to inconvenience dinos not intended to spend a lot of time in heavy forests, though poison ivy and prickly plants can also be pretty hard to see and it would get annoying getting a debuff from walking through a plant that looks super close to other plants in a thickly wooded area

[glad dirge]

Mmm diets

[paper oriole]

Maybe dinos specialized to live in heavy undergrowth can be resistant or immune to this torture of stepping on prickly sticks or little poison plants that look super close to other plants

While those who arent supposed to make a living there can feel the burn

[glad dirge]

I like the idea of thorn bushes in thick nasty dry areas

[paper oriole]

Poison ivy is a very unassuming looking plant that you will likely miss unless you are actively looking for it or it is alone

[tepid river]

Yeah my idea on isnt that they'd be incredibly common, just something that occasionally you may find and encourage players to know the area theyre in better. Absolutely not having them like, every 10 feet

[ashen elm]

I really like these ideas chiiri!

But then again, I think the TI desperately needs more PvE content beyond just eating or drinking enough.

[tepid river]

thank you and same. As of right now, that's pretty much the only survival aspect, finding food and finding water. Going to playing something else such as green hell, it's not just food and water or accidentally walking off a cliff that can kill you, but the environment and understanding what's in it and i'd really like to see more of that

[glad dirge]

Would be cool for magy to keep its toxicity level up based on its diet

[ashen elm]

tar pits

[digital nest]

wait, magy's supposed to be toxic? or is that just an idea you had

that might be the only way to discourage big preds from griefing them tbh

[paper oriole]

It hasnt been confirmed, all we know is it ‘tasted bad’

[digital nest]

ah

[glad dirge]

Yep, just an idea

[tepid river]

its a good idea though, some amphibians and sea slugs do that to make themselves toxic to predators

[paper oriole]

Some birds do it as well, eating toxic beetles or berries to make themselves poisonous to bite

I thought a while back maybe ovi or somebody could play like a hooded pitohui and keep up a diet to be toxic and bear brighter colours while having the buff as a warning, but it could work for magy possibly minus the bright colours probably, escept maybe on his neck flap

[barren zephyr]

That's a really cool idea, but I feel it would fit Hypsi better.

[paper oriole]

Maybe, though hypsi already has a spitting gimmick that should be expanded on imo

[barren zephyr]

I'm sure it'll be updated with time.

[paper oriole]

Making it a cone aim to begin with because rn the aim is trash lol

[barren zephyr]

[paper oriole]

sigh another buff deino suggestion

[outer yoke]

deino needs to be able to drag in fully grown stegos and get its damage buffed

[barren zephyr]

lol

[outer yoke]

like

get its damage buffed tremendously

[paper oriole]

Maybe, just maybe you aren't supposed to hunt everything in the game? Right now deino can basically oneshot a full carno with its lunge by drowning it

It isnt supposed to kill with damage bro

[outer yoke]

and a stego can camp and 4 shot deinos??

[icy lion]

deino can 4shot stegos too wym

[outer yoke]

what

[paper oriole]

4 head shots

[icy lion]

headshots bro

[outer yoke]

well we cant get headshots cause the stegos ass is in our face and we are too slow to get to its head

[turbid mauve]

his on the C, dont mind him

[paper oriole]

Ok then just dont fight it

[outer yoke]

then just get camped?

stegos will literally chase you into the water as if they were an apex predator

[turbid mauve]

sucks to be u buddy

this is survival

[outer yoke]

when there not and they should not be able to kill an 8 tone croc with 4 shots lmao'

[paper oriole]

We have like 1/5th of the map rn or something, more water will come. Also turning deino into water rex doesnt fix ‘unbalance’

[turbid mauve]

stego cant tail hit in the water lmao

if u lose to astego in water i feel sorry for u

[outer yoke]

the exact reason we need to be able to take them in the wayer

[paper oriole]

Deino is supposed to be shite on land, it doesnt need more damage it needs more water and better utility in the water

Not damage

[turbid mauve]

and by uti, he means more oxy

[outer yoke]

im just furious that we cant pull in a stego

like wtf

8 tone croc with 500 newtons of biteforce????

they are meant to have about 18k newtons of biteforce

thought the isle was meant to be realistic

[paper oriole]

Yeah its because its supposed to grab and drown not snap shit in half with 20k bite force

[icy lion]

the newton label is for show

[paper oriole]

Balance has always been priority over realism

[icy lion]

has nothing to do with actual newtons

imo the N label just needs to be removed

[turbid mauve]

bruh it don't make sense for a stego to just instantly die from 6 hours of game play. this is a video game lmao lol

[outer yoke]

then why would they make it wrong then?

[paper oriole]

The devs dont want 5hr grows getting oneshot lmao

Thats just boring

[icy lion]

the N is for show, the number isnt

[paper oriole]

I agree deino needs some help but not more damage

[outer yoke]

so they make 5 hour growths get 4 shot then?

[icy lion]

hitboxes are the biggest issue rn

[outer yoke]

when its nearly impossible for a headshot for us

[turbid mauve]

well mean what are you doing getting hit by the tail in ur face da fuq?

[paper oriole]

Not enough deep water sources, no swimming grab and buggy hitboxes are the problem

Not damage

[turbid mauve]

go for teno herds like sheet, i don't understand why u tackling something way stronger then u

or carnos

or utahs

or anything else

[outer yoke]

the thing is

[turbid mauve]

but stego like wtf

[paper oriole]

Yeah deino basically executes carno with grab

[outer yoke]

stego should be weaker than the deino

[icy lion]

anything less than 4 tons, you can 1 shot

which is most of the roster

[turbid mauve]

i am confushion yo

[icy lion]

technically everything when you take growth into account

stego is weak, it gets shredded by utahs. stego is meant to be strong against big, slow stuff. deino is big and slow.

[outer yoke]

doesnt change the fact that we should bring them in the ater

crocs these days can bring in water buffaloes

[paper oriole]

Stego should shitstomp deino when its feet are firmly on the ground, you dont need to execute every other playable lmao that is boring to everybody else

[outer yoke]

which is alot bigger than the crocs

[paper oriole]

If we're talking realism maybe we should also nerf utah into the dirt and remove his pounce

[icy lion]

balance wise a 5hr grow shouldnt get 1shot by a 5hr grow

[outer yoke]

times that croc and buffaloes size by 4 times and it wouldnt be any different

[icy lion]

and also nerf carno into dust and remove the charge

[silver zephyr]

videogame =/= irl

[outer yoke]

the isle is meant to be realistic is it not?

[silver zephyr]

no not really

[paper oriole]

Yeah it baffles me how people can just toss balance completely aside and think its good design

Bro look at spino, look at anky, look at the strains. Realism doesn't matter it is only inspiration

[turbid mauve]

You do realize deinosuchus could beat stegosaurus if it's crossing a river right? Also, there is a reason why the developers don't want to overpower deinosuchus and this is just me speculating: The developers don't want deinosuchus to be able to outright kill stegosaurus on land or near the water's edge because if it did, it would have become unbalanced, you see? If things are unbalanced then they are not fun, get it? Me being a stegosaurus main, I'd sure jump to deinosuchus main, and that's saying a whole lot coming from me because rarely do I ever cater to the carnivorous side. I hope my comment helped you understand a bit more. Thanks.

[outer yoke]

ive never seen a stego cross the water, closest ive seen a stego to the water is with its ass in the water trying to KOS every croc they see

therefor

not fun for the crocs

[wispy cypress]

ptera is not a damn bat

[silver zephyr]

ptera wall clinging was confirmed by filipe iirc

[wispy cypress]

bruh srsly

[paper oriole]

Clinging doesn’t necessarily mean hanging like a bat

[silver zephyr]

yeah

[wispy cypress]

true, but he like saying that hang of a branch, how would that work btw

[compact hare]

Clinging is good imo, ptera rn is just flying simulator and no action, nothing else to do
just fly, sit, fly, sit. repeat.

[barren zephyr]

It would probably just be being able to grip on onto steep cliffs.

Pteranodon does not have the foot morphology to hang like a bat.

[wispy cypress]

yeah

[silver zephyr]

"it would be cool if ptera's could hang off the side of tree's and rocks" I think they meant side as in side not a branch

[wispy cypress]

cerato should able to fly lmao, cuz it's a vulture, sue me haha

[barren zephyr]

Isn't Pteranodon too big to get into a tree anyway.

Or at least big to the point it's awkward to do so.

[paper oriole]

Idk we apparently gonna see some bigass trees

[compact hare]

red woods

[wispy cypress]

I hope we get redwoods soon

and fenced areas

[paper oriole]

Same trees herrera hangs in

[silver zephyr]

those are confirmed for update 4

was posted in phase two a bit ago

[wispy cypress]

well for one, Herrera is a leopard, and two ptera is a crow

[silver zephyr]

what

[paper oriole]

Not really...?

Crows arent piscivores last i checked

[wispy cypress]

it's a figure of speech i think

it's so late

[paper oriole]

Its like a skimmer more than a crow if we're sorting niches

[wispy cypress]

ik

[paper oriole]

If herrera can hang out in a free why not let ptera attempt to land on some exposed branches at its own risk, even if it's not necessarily supposed to

[silver zephyr]

ptera will be most like a fishing bat rather than a crow, skimmer and can cling onto some surfaces

[wispy cypress]

sure, but let me tell ya, herrera will absolutely destroy these pterosaurs

[paper oriole]

Thats why i said at their own risk lol

[wispy cypress]

oh im dumb lol

r/oops

[compact hare]

at least one prey on trees to herra

[wispy cypress]

true

[spiral ravine]

@candid badger the devs chose to not implement that for a reason. the official servers are meant to mimic the most hardcore survival environment, community servers in the future can be modded and you'll likely be able to do global invites

[candid badger]

lord I hope so

[stable sierra]

am i missing something. i just installed the beta.. and i cant join any official stress test servers

ive tried for about 45min now

[icy lion]

whats the game version number on your main menu?

[stable sierra]

0.6.48.29

[icy lion]

swap to the qa branch

[stable sierra]

thanks 🙂

[jovial sleet]

Did i hear Nocturnal quetz

Btw. My Doc is posted somewhere up there ^if any one haven't seen it yet.

[wispy cypress]

@barren peak perfect, your like me, awesome

[swift dew]

ok and? this a game where this thing is known as utahraptor. fictionalizing ptera to hang like a bat wouldn't be the weirdest thing in this game

[swift dew]

also a game where this thing is known as spinosaurus

[dapper terrace]

I'd rather see Ptera cling to walls and trees vertically, rather than upsidedown.

[cold zealot]

I'm not sure how that's an argument point

[dapper terrace]

That's because it's not lol

[cold zealot]

I'm very lost lmao

[dapper terrace]

Having some inaccuracy for the sake of style and gameplay doesn't mean anything goes. Just because there are inconsistencies in realism, doesn't mean that every unrealistic idea is a good fit.

[cold zealot]

isn't there no way to be completely accurate anyways?

it's not like you can go outside and just see a T-rex slurping on some river water

[dapper terrace]

Why can't we aim for realism and plausibility where can, and fill the gaps with other ideas?

Having Ptera hang upsidedown doesn't really add anything when it's planned to grapple in the sides of rocks anyway. To keep this consistent, a better suggestion would be to ask if Ptera can going onto thick tree trunks, and climb up to branches.

I agree that Ptera could be useful as a visitor to aboreal places. The more we can get into the trees the better imo. Even if Ptera is just up there to rest, I like the idea of it being vulnerable to aboreal predators.

But hanging upsidedown doesn't add anything to this playstyle. It's an unnecessary aestetic.

[cold zealot]

^ yeah that's a good add, I don't know the science of it but I like the thought of one being able to grab small animals or babies for that matter.

[dapper terrace]

It's confirmed that'll be Quetz's thing

[barren zephyr]

yes but it is stupid and nobody wants bat based pterosaurs here

[cold zealot]

It makes sense for the quetz to do it for just about anything. But the pteradon is practically just a mini quetz

[dapper terrace]

It doesn't fit that Ptera could pick up juvis, even tho it would be very fun lmao

I mean with the size of Ptera

[cold zealot]

I'm not talking like, any juvi. I mean baby raptors and that weird acid spitting thing

[dapper terrace]

All the juvis would be too heavy for it to take flight

[barren zephyr]

The same would be for pterosaur based bats

[wispy cypress]

portal and gravity guns should be in the isle lol

[rocky aspen]

I think that the isle should consider adding mammoths :))

[hybrid orchid]

thats the ice age era tho

[rocky aspen]

I know I’m just messing.

Some people genuinely do suggest it tho.

[barren zephyr]

Pleistocene megafauna I might unironically add would be ground sloths or Glyptodonts.

and actually Glyptodon, Glyptotherium or Doedicurus may be good replacements for anky

[lapis tree]

Wait not ground sloths what about aquatic sloths, burrowing sloths and mountainous cliff climbing sloths because why not

[barren zephyr]

ground sloths are any sloths that do not live in trees

So Thalassocnus is technically a ground sloth, and it evolved from terrestrial ancestors

[lethal silo]

ground sloths scary, they dug rock caves

[barren zephyr]

Btw Mylodon had preserved hair and skin with osteoderms, which is quite cool

so it has some amour against carnivores

[hybrid orchid]

Make a dino that can live in trees

[barren zephyr]

we already have that, Herrerasaurus

Hypsilophodon might be another

though Hypsilophodon is more of a pheasant than some other arboreal bird since it only seems to perch on trees

and spends most of its time foraging on the ground

[hybrid orchid]

I meant like it can climb up trees and nest on them lol

Prob even eat fruit out of it idk

[outer yoke]

in future nobody will play deino

cause they get camped by stegoes

[urban flax]

Quetz is confirmed
And we're likely to get at least another flyer, many people bet on tupandactylus

[obtuse yacht]

You need to fix the cave between those rivers. You fall down and drown and are unable to get up. I have tried 2 times now... 😛

[jovial sleet]

Prestosuchus>>>>>>>fasola

[trail tide]

#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 #723294838610722847

Keep in mind that we do have channels for Bugs/Map Issues in #723294838610722847 + #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 . For issues you are having in game, go ahead and check in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 . This feedback channel is for feedback only. You'll probably get more assistance with issues you are experiencing if you use those channels provided. ^^ The entries in here that do not fall under #general-feedback will probably not get answered.

Basic Questions can be asked in #401464048610312195.

[junior crow]

A que system is already in the works @sly geode:
#general-feedback message

[sly geode]

Oh ok, thx ! 😄

[junior crow]

np!

[urban flax]

@remote cradle

For everyone posting suggestions, from now on suggestions containing 'nerf/buff x, or please add X dino' are not permissive as they add nothing of value for the development team. Please propose a possible fix/weigh balance changes.

If you post please add this dino, explain why the animal should be added and what mechanics it could have to set it apart from animals already in-game to make it unique so we don't have clone dinosaurs all over. All constructive criticism is to be discussed in #general-feedback-discussion as this channel is not for feedback or discussion. Troll suggestions will result in the poster kicked from the discord.

[remote cradle]

Perhaps

[zealous saffron]

a fully grown deino is able to get out of that spot easily by using the rmb speed boost thing. sometimes takes two uses of it, but it is very possible to get out of that nasty lil spot. 🙂

[royal stump]

does anyone know how to slow down as a ptera?

i cant enter controls meanwhile in game

[urban flax]

You have to delete your TheIsle folder in appdata/local

[royal stump]

ok

ill try that

so just delete the entire folder?

[paper geyser]

no

do not delete the whole thing

you want to reset your controls right?

[royal stump]

yes

well

i want to be able to airbrale

brake*

[paper geyser]

delete the Saved folder only

you can skip the first few steps if you already know how to find the appdata folder

[royal stump]

ok

thx for the help

[paper geyser]

no worries

[dire robin]

i must ask, when the stress test ends are all the dinos on official servers with the name "stress test" in them do we keep are dino data so if i grew a deino i would keep it for when the beta ends?

[glad dirge]

No, if you go back to evrima youll be on different stuff and servers and therefore your dino will be goone

[vast wolf]

unless you have acces to those servers, no. they will most likely be wiped.

[dire robin]

damnnnn

rip people with full deino

and stego

[vast wolf]

most people went into the testing knowing their creature would be wiped.

[spiral ravine]

just grow another one

[tame jetty]

@charred hawk DM Him

[charred hawk]

i cant :/

[tame jetty]

Cant you just tap his name and have the message bar?

[charred hawk]

i cant because im not his friend, and not accepting DM

[tame jetty]

well cheese.. TIME TO ADD the dev as friend mate

ah.. but yeh.. idk...then.. :/ hmmm you should keep eye out on isle discussion channel and when he on there u should tag and ask him about what u need

i seen him on alot lately when the stress test been going on so

[sand oar]

You can always DM Punch.

[charred hawk]

thanks m8s i will try

[glass mulch]

@kindred flare , I am gonna be completely honest with you, there is literally no need for Iguanadon

[kindred flare]

there is no need for literally half the upcoming playables aswell. why is iguanodon the exception

[glass mulch]

Because those are already confirmed, we really dont need anymore

We have over 50 playables confirmed

we don't need something that doesn't bring anything to the game

[kindred flare]

styraco wasnt confirmed until recently. what is the need for that

[glass mulch]

No we had styraco model for quite some time and it has been planned for quite some time

just they didn't confirm it to the public until recently

[kindred flare]

even still, it doesnt add much. just another ceratopsian,

[glass mulch]

In the same way iguanadon doesn't add anything

[kindred flare]

so why no iguano yet 5 ceratopsians

[glass mulch]

because we have models for those

unlike iguanadon

[kindred flare]

old models

that are being redone

so essentially, we dont have models for them

[glass mulch]

No... we have the same model for Monolophosaurus and Protoceratops as we did in 2016

exactly the same

Also just because they do something that isn't good doesn't mean you need to worsen it

What would be the reason to add Iguanadon, you have not mentioned a niche

[kindred flare]

iguanodon is still much more fun to play than like. all the hadrosaurs. they dont particularly add much aside from food for anything that can sneak up on it

[glass mulch]

I mean... Shantungosaurus adds a sauropod sized huge landwhale that could destroy anything in its path, parasaurolophus adds a unique looking yet somewhat simple animal with a very simple niche, Maiasaura adds a medium sized animal with an extremely simple niche by just being a grazing quick herbivore, Dryosaurus adds a quick moving and agile small herbivore

Tenonto adds a medium sized brawler with several attack options and good crowd control

[kindred flare]

tenonto is related to the iguanodon

[glass mulch]

So is dryo

and the rest of those

[kindred flare]

and teno is way more fun than para or maia will ever be

[glass mulch]

Tenonto is an Iguanadontid, Dryosaurus is an Iguanadontid and the hadros are decendants of iguanadontids

[glass mulch]

So... your idea is just, instead of adding something new, we just make something that was a success and do it the exact same way

[kindred flare]

what new thing can maia or para bring that iguano cant

literally nothing

[glass mulch]

I mean, Maia could bring a medium sized herbivore

Para could bring a somewhat passive and potentially combat based sound abilities...

Everything Iguanadon can add is bleed

[kindred flare]

its literally a para but actually stands a change in a fight

[glass mulch]

No, it is a Para who can use its arms in combat

that is it

literally it

It would have the niche of a theri and the look of a maia

[kindred flare]

adn what can para do? nothing. literally nothing

[glass mulch]

Again, you are taking an animal that is already in game

For example, what if we were to remove Baryonyx simply because it is a worse Suchomimus people would be upset, and if we would add ichtyovenator people would be upset because it is just a slightly larger Baryonyx

[kindred flare]

Don even said, para and maia arent hard to make, they are hard to make interesting. because they are such basic animals that is only ever depicted as food for the carnivore because it cant be anything else

[glass mulch]

Cant be anything else? Have you ever fought a Shant in legacy?

[kindred flare]

yes

as an allo

and won

[glass mulch]

T-T

[kindred flare]

plus

i didnt say shant

shant is fine

[glass mulch]

Anyways, this thing is not really "just free food"

No but you mean all hadros

[kindred flare]

i said maia and para

no, shant is the only hadro i can respect.

[glass mulch]

Alright so, Parasaurolophus could probably beat everything a Iguanadon could

[kindred flare]

but less effectively

[glass mulch]

Yes

so?

[kindred flare]

more often dying

[glass mulch]

Ehh

Idk

a 5.5 ton Parasaurolophus ramming into an Allosaurus would hurt it like fuck

probably break some ribs and legs

A 4 ton Iguanadon would also be able to beat an Allosaurus, but mostly with a pretty boring claw swipe

[kindred flare]

and a 5 ton iguanodon would do the same, but hve the added bonus of the thumb weapon

[tall oasis]

thats already in path of titans

[glass mulch]

Iggy wasn't 5 tons?

[kindred flare]

whatever, 4. its past midnight gimme a break

[kindred flare]

path of poo.

[tall oasis]

didn't u start this conversation?

[kindred flare]

yeah

so

[glass mulch]

Look, I get where you are coming from. But it would not be that useful unless it would replace something in the current roster

[tall oasis]

so ur the reason why it's past ur bed time

[kindred flare]

replace maia. done

replace teno

[tall oasis]

maia is a excellent utah killer

[glass mulch]

Why would you waste like 5 thousand bucks on replacing an already good model

[glass mulch]

What i said before

[kindred flare]

iggy would be better

[tall oasis]

it's faster and stronger

[glass mulch]

You do know they have to keep Iguanadon balanced too

[kindred flare]

tf

maia stonger than iguano

[tall oasis]

yee boi

[kindred flare]

[glass mulch]

Not stronger than iggy, stronger than utah

[tall oasis]

a utah will get it's ass kicked by a maia, same with dilos

[glass mulch]

This iggy would add more to the game

[tall oasis]

chonk

[odd sedge]

I'd rather have Cherry

[glass mulch]

Same

[barren zephyr]

well why not have Mylodon instead?

It is also slow

[tall oasis]

What about aladar?

[glass mulch]

Because they want iguanodon, so fan service

[barren zephyr]

or actually mylodon is quite small

TIME FOR THE MEGATHERIUM

[odd sedge]

I like Iguanadon, don't get me wrong.
But I'd rather have a semi-aquatic, apex omnivore than buff Maia with thumbs

[tall oasis]

im not sure about mammals being playable

i would think they would be AI only

[glass mulch]

Same, Flam made a new dossier for it, I generally hope it will be added

[barren zephyr]

they do not want to have mammals, because there will be floods of simpletons asking for mammoths to be added

[odd sedge]

Cherry deserves it in my opinion

[glass mulch]

Look at this little cutie :)

[odd sedge]

Death hug :)

[tall oasis]

well there is planned mammal ai

[barren zephyr]

and also there is an undescribed sail backed iguanodont which coexisted with Utahraptor

[glass mulch]

I called it a little cuite, but it would be the size of a realistic Spinosaurus....

[odd sedge]

Big bird

[glass mulch]

Deinocheirus is fucking huge

7 tons

[tall oasis]

I personally would like dis boi to be added as AI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqUMPitzhwM

[glass mulch]

The synodonts?

[odd sedge]

Well it better be if it's an apex

[tall oasis]

yes

[glass mulch]

Yeah, I mean... it is 2.5 tons heavier than Therizinosaurus

[barren zephyr]

The sailback is decently sized

[glass mulch]

It would be like Theri, but on steroids with less bleed and more raw damage

and semi aquatic

and omnivorous

[barren zephyr]

(and has a sail/hump which makes it cool)

[tall oasis]

more unique than iguanodon

[odd sedge]

Rad! 🍒

[glass mulch]

Cooler too

[tawny juniper]

@chilly matrix things don't just grow feathers when it colds and get rid of them when it isn't

[glass mulch]

Deinocheirus is about as similar to Therizinosaurus as Utahraptor is to Rex

[chilly matrix]

Im aware of that but to be honest it would be kinda cool

[barren zephyr]

birds have winter/summer coats, but no animal switches between being scaly and being feathered

[tawny juniper]

It would be kind of weird

Your dinosaur just grows feathers when it gets cold?

[chilly matrix]

Well thats the reason why i would love the abbilitie to choose in the skin section

[odd sedge]

Walk on two legs is probably the only similarity which is... pathetic

[chilly matrix]

Ok lets scratch the feather idea what about the season etc and the new dinosaur ?

[glass mulch]

I mean... long necks, weird proportions, huge arms, both lived in the same place at the same time, they are distantly related and tails....

But... that literally means that they can live togehter

and not be the same animal

[odd sedge]

It's like saying a cat and a dog are the same, because they both have similar bodies

[tawny juniper]

I think that would be cool but very difficult to implement

[glass mulch]

Or you know, Rex and Giga, Velo and Utah (kinda), Trike and dibble, Maia and Shant, Beipi and Theri, Quetz and Ptera.... like they all have similar body proportions, yet Deinocheirus and Therizinosaurus are more different than almost all of those

[chilly matrix]

Could be done. That reminds me of Ark where there is a desert and or the snowy moaintan areas

[tawny juniper]

That's biomes not seasons

Biomes would be a lot easier to implement

[urban flax]

And better for gameplay

[chilly matrix]

Yeah i know but since seasons was denied biomes would be the vest

[tawny juniper]

yes...

[odd sedge]

Theri is a chicken with giraffe neck and knives as claws while Cherry is a sail-back duck that hugs enemies to death

[urban flax]

Oh and I think Yutyrannus is a terrible idea

[barren zephyr]

We already have Carnotaurus and Allosaurus

[glass mulch]

Yutyrannus is just allo but furry material

[urban flax]

yes

[barren zephyr]

If it gets added, there will be tonnes of furry art about it

(probably

[glass mulch]

The hypsi flashbacks

[odd sedge]

[glass mulch]

once they showed the hypsi... that was pain

Love the design but... they had to delete quite a bit in fanart

[urban flax]

It isn't that bad
at least hypsi is cute
I've seen furry (or scalie to be more accurate) of carnos

[odd sedge]

How do you make furry art out of a walking chicken nugget. Or why rather

[glass mulch]

And the vore allo "fan art" allo scalies

[glass mulch]

There is a simple answer

The Isle

[odd sedge]

The same people who crouch and de-crouch over one another repeatedly

[glass mulch]

Yes, and the same people who say slurs in global when they die to a sucho

[tawny juniper]

"fuckin fish eating long nose"

[odd sedge]

You don't mess with suchos

[glass mulch]

Yeah... and the "How could a fucking fish eater beat a predator"

...Like have you heard about crocodiles, sharks and bears?

[odd sedge]

Reminds me of trike players who want to one shot rexes because
“the horn should impale it's throat“

[glass mulch]

Yeah omg... those people

[barren zephyr]

obviously depends on where the horn hits

[glass mulch]

And the Giga players who complain that they are the worst animal in the game, despite being one of the best... if not THE best

[barren zephyr]

why not give acro love

[glass mulch]

Acro deserves some love

[odd sedge]

Acro needs love

[barren zephyr]

you know what, you could ditch giga because it is a dinosaur for redditors who constantly pit dinosaurs in reasonless hypothetical fights

[glass mulch]

wHat iF gIga wOUlD fIGhT mApU

[barren zephyr]

That automatically makes it trash

[barren zephyr]

you could lump mapu into giga lmao

[glass mulch]

Basically

same for Tyrannotitan

[barren zephyr]

well gregory paul lumped saurornithoides (an asian taxon) into troodon, so its not that bad

[glass mulch]

What even is the difference between giga and mapu except for time and place

[barren zephyr]

mapu only lives a bit later than giga

it is very probable that it is a descendant

anyway, giga is trash because it is an acro but unepic

[glass mulch]

Exactly

[odd sedge]

Some dinosaurs in General need love

Like Oro or Taco.
Well Taco will burrow but idk 'bout Oro

[tawny juniper]

Where are the moantins I want to go

[odd sedge]

My humor is terrible, I'm sorry

[tawny juniper]

So is mine

Hence the pfp of a badger in the goku drip shirt

[glossy garden]

anyone else having tons of lag?

[swift dew]

@clever urchin if you hold down one of the calls it makes the call go farther and it sounds different. so we already have some variation

[clever urchin]

I dont think seasons would work... Deino cant just "grow feathers", its a crocodilian... ^_^''

[clever urchin]

Oh fr? Shiii I thought it was just as legacy where you just "Press 1 to Dino"

[barren zephyr]

well not all would necessarily

And actually Deino would have to brumate

Or, if being real here, it cannot live in cool climates year round because it is too big.

[swift dew]

yeah, say your utah. if you press one you bark (broadcast) if you hold one you bark with a little... idk how to explain it but it makes a slightly different sound and your bark (broadcast) is heard from farther. this applies to all calls

[barren zephyr]

High energy needs, for starters.

Though if you grow up in a cold climate as a youngster you could end up being stunted

[clever urchin]

I didnt know that was a thing, so you will have to excuse my cluelessness... XD sorry, I didnt know there were AI either since on the starting screen it said AI needs to be added

[barren zephyr]

which, while interesting, also is wacky and likely going to make people rant or go WTF MAN

[clever urchin]

Honestly If the devs figure out how to add seasons, I'd be more than happy to hear them out on it

It would work with the perks getting added

[barren zephyr]

I mean in general stunted growth or dwarving over generations if growing up in cold climates is a weird yet fun thing to play around with

[clever urchin]

Imagine a drawf rex

https://c.tenor.com/yUqKY2BlKvcAAAAM/wheeze-laugh.gif

[barren zephyr]

I mean you have then bootlegged yourself a Nanuqsaurus

[clever urchin]

Nanotyrannus -> Rex made in China

[barren zephyr]

Nanotyrannus is not chinese

it was found in the US

[clever urchin]

I know

But its like a Rex Made in China

[barren zephyr]

And was probably a juvie rex

[clever urchin]

Probably

[barren zephyr]

at least the Jane specimen

[clever urchin]

I do like the nano though

I first saw it in Jurassic Fight Club

[barren zephyr]

Yeah but still, especially with ectotherms like Deino, dwarfing due to small climates is an interesting thing to add

On the contrary, usually small species might get bigger (e.g Troodon)

[clever urchin]

Hmmm, that gives me an idea for a perk

[barren zephyr]

irl Latenivenatrix (or some other large troodontid) was found in the Alaskan arctic.

alongside nanuq

[clever urchin]

Perk that increases your growth size but decreases your stamina/speed

Perk that decreases your growth size but increases your speed and stamina

One perk would favor a tanky playstyle while the other would favor players who like to use speed to their advantige

But yes you are right, having those mechanics would make the game more interesting

[barren zephyr]

Or actually afaik the devs are not arsed to implement seasons or climates

though there are biodomes

[wet matrix]

Guys if I’m stuck what do I do?

[tawny juniper]

Sadly wait to starve to death

Make sure you get coords and put in the evrima bugs thing though

[paper geyser]

or you can wiggle around for 10 minutes hoping to get unstuck

worked for me

[ashen elm]

I think logging in and out sometimes works for some?

[dire robin]

can we please FIX THE BUG were u relogg and lose your fricking dino this has happened twice on my 100% deino and a 70% deino

i do not want to play the game anymore 😠

[paper geyser]

it's a stress test, bugs will happen

i'd recommend waiting for the full release of update 3

[gray portal]

i have a problem anyone can help me please ?

my game isnt starting

its installing ue4 and stop working

when i clink start again it say uninstall ue4

contact me on discord

[torn thistle]

@gray portal I'd suggest looking through any of the troubleshooting channels or tagging <@&818552355796287508> for help

[tawny juniper]

This is why I decided I wasn't even going to bother with the stress test

The actual update 3 will be better anyway

And the problems will be tiny compared to the test

[barren zephyr]

@barren zephyr

that would be a unfair advantage so no

would also make nesting too easy and lead to carnivore over population

@half horizon

your suggestion is like complaining a allo loses to a rex

thats the point

The teno is supposed to have a massage advantage, its a 1.6 ton pseudo mid tier and you’re a 500kg raptor

[wild prawn]

They really need to do something about the team killing. Like 50% damage increase to the person getting attacked. especially if you are herbivore

[paper oriole]

No, get punished for bad coordination

No handholding

[wild prawn]

that's kinda brain dead though. I can flip on animal planet and you don't see a bunch of buffaloes turning on eachother when wolves are trying to attack them

[paper oriole]

Yeah well they arent just spam attacking trying to kill the wolves like we do

If they did start swinging their shit around with intent to kill they wouldnt magically deal reduced damage

[cyan flame]

@wild prawn No need, plan out how you're doing stuff, and you'll be fine. We defended our juvie stego quite well until the other stego missed the camera angle and swiped the wrong way. But that I would put down to it being tricky at times to know which way the camera thinks you're looking vs where your eyes are focusing. And we still defended fine for about ten minutes before that mistake happened. Tenno and others would have it easier, now that their attacks aren't camera based in the same way.

[wild prawn]

no the stegos literally just turned on eachother and were chasing eachother around

[paper oriole]

Ok thats their choice

[wild prawn]

nah its usually a troll who starts and its just chaosafter that point

[paper oriole]

Keep a safe distance from players you dont know

[still raptor]

Its how people play the game. To give people stat nerfs for killing other people is absurd

[paper oriole]

Its a pvp survival game full of toxic bored players just wanting a fight

Dont trust anybody

[wild prawn]

yeah pretty much lul

no incentive to even team up with randoms tbh

[still raptor]

You dont have to fight all the damn time. There’s a thing called disengaging

[paper oriole]

I mean you can get lucky lol

[wild prawn]

as a stego man

[paper oriole]

Atm theres nothing else to do but go on bloodthirsty rampages

[wild prawn]

yeah sure if you are a raptor you can get a way but as a stego comon bruh

and that has the most time to evolve

[paper oriole]

I mean if you're equipped with weapons to kill and you're bored it doesnt really matter what faction youre on

[cyan flame]

Well you can escape other stegos at least, sure tennos can hunt you down but.. well, they can be fought more or less :p

[still raptor]

Then dont get in the situation in the first place. Be smart. Besides stego isnt an offensive animal

[paper oriole]

Hard to chase someone down and beat them with a weapon on your back if they arent slower than you

So just haul ass

[wild prawn]

yup just gonna pick tennos from now on which is a shame cuz you should be able to pick what you want without worrying about trolls.

when i go herbi

[still raptor]

Just dont play the game then

[icy lion]

teno players are aggro as fuck in my experience

[paper oriole]

When theres more stuff to do it will be less common. It will always be a thing that happens though

[wild prawn]

krayt you sound like the guy that now one trusts tbh

[paper oriole]

Or just wait for all the weird realism servers with anti kos rules to come to evrima

[still raptor]

Well, I like killing shit bc it’s fun

[safe galleon]

yeah he's an asshole

[wild prawn]

you just want a troll fest. some people actually like to play it right

[still raptor]

And to be honest you sound like one of those people who want a carebear and bird bath sim experience

[wild prawn]

no. its just juvenile behavior that the trolls do

i like fighting and i thought the stego was pretty fun when fighting carnos

[still raptor]

You’re damn right.

[paper oriole]

Im gonna lure and kos so many magys as an herbi when they are released

[still raptor]

Oh hell yea

[silver zephyr]

based

[still raptor]

Killing any magy that joins my herd

Fuck them

[silver zephyr]

[cyan flame]

Poor magys!

Leave the sauropodlet alone! :p

[wild prawn]

fuck it im just going rouge with carno and killing everything till they fix it

[paper oriole]

Hey there little magy i'll protect you haha sike

[safe galleon]

yorha do you think it would be fun for a bunch of carnos to stand around you as a stego and they spam bite you but they don't die because they don't hurt each other? yeah nah

[paper oriole]

Yes join the toxic bloodbath

Reduced friendly fire/species damage would just help lynch mobs and that's it

[wild prawn]

i said 50% reduction to same species @safe galleon

[silver zephyr]

they know

[still raptor]

Group damage reduction already exists

[safe galleon]

yes, and that is a huge amount

[silver zephyr]

and it does virtually nothing

[wild prawn]

@safe galleon it should be higher tbh. but they won't do it prob so its just trolling from now on

fuck it

[still raptor]

50% damage reduction for competition is a shit idea

[paper oriole]

50% reduced damage so a group can surround you and spam attack with minimal repercussions

[silver zephyr]

damage reduction is basically either useless or busted

on both ends

[icy lion]

plus it only works in a group, not to all members of the species

[safe galleon]

fun gameplay

[wild prawn]

Maybe like a certain radius it goes into effect

[cyan flame]

Group damage reduction is a bad idea anyway, shouldn't be a thing, doesn't need to be a thing. And as Luna just said, doesn't save you from random new guy killing you anyway.

[wild prawn]

i don't know . like i said f it

[still raptor]

Yea I would lowkey play bob or pot if that happens

[wild prawn]

rogue carno it is

[paper oriole]

That would fuel toxic behaviour even more than currently lmao

[still raptor]

Yup

[wild prawn]

welp i tried being a good person but all the babies get bit on sight

[paper oriole]

Join the dark side

[cyan flame]

@wild prawn Play however you see fit. And just learn to trust no one, don't let anyone get within striking range if you do not trust them, or are in position to strike first.

[still raptor]

Just go teno and be aggro lol

[compact hare]

Tail slam everything

[still raptor]

I run after carnos all the time

[wild prawn]

that would work too the teno thing. its just unfortunate cuz the stuff like herbivore circle formation is fun stuff. oh well

[paper oriole]

I dont even trust my own friends to not misclick and attack me just keep a safe distance away from the dangerous bits

[wild prawn]

gender and age equality from now on 🙂

[silver zephyr]

what

[still raptor]

If Im in a stego herd, im away from everyone else lol

Same with teno

[cyan flame]

That or trust the other stegos to aim well :p

[wild prawn]

it wasn't even a herd. I obviously do that when roaming

but when raptors and carnos are breathing down my neck....I honestly can't

[still raptor]

Then dont play the game or go ptera

[wild prawn]

@cyan flame nah im going to play the game and purge the trolls and carebears

[paper oriole]

Good luck lol

[safe galleon]

have fun

[wild prawn]

nah im going to play the game and purge the trolls and carebears

[paper oriole]

Have fun fighting hypsi utah mixpack or 13 stegos

[still raptor]

Ok. Dont come crying back when you get team killed

[wild prawn]

@still raptor Your tune changes every 5secs my guy. consistency plz. first be a troll now worry about team kill???

[still raptor]

My tune

[safe galleon]

says the guy that first wnted to prevent trolling then starts trolling

[still raptor]

I like how Im being called a troll for criticizing his terrible feedback

[cyan flame]

@wild prawn You won't succeed. But you're welcome to try I guess.

[wild prawn]

@still raptor don't play the victim

[still raptor]

Lmfao

[wild prawn]

@still raptor standard tactic I do it from time to time

t

[paper oriole]

@wispy cypress joke suggestions are against rules, just giving advice to delete it before an admin sees

[barren zephyr]

@wispy cypress I agree with this....totally

[paper oriole]

O no an admin seen

[still raptor]

Dont worry I got a ss

[paper oriole]

It is immortalized

[still raptor]

Yup

[safe galleon]

speaking of immortalized suggestions anyone got a ss of giga shark suggestion?

[still raptor]

Anyways, Im done arguing with someone whos trying to get reactions

[paper oriole]

Shid i had it saved on my computer and idk where it went lmao

[still raptor]

Lol

[safe galleon]

F, I just remembered it and wanted to read it for laughs

[still raptor]

Immortalized

[urban flax]

Wut

Giga summoning sharks

[paper oriole]

A classic

[wispy cypress]

thank u

[urban flax]

Then I want hypsi lord of flies to eat predators alive after spitting at them

[paper oriole]

Hypsi acid can melt faces off

[urban flax]

Not magical enough

[wispy cypress]

I swear to god damn good Trevor needs to be in the isle he'll be fucking immortal, but slow as hell

[barren zephyr]

^

Trevor for the isle when

[wispy cypress]

2919 that is when trevor will be released

[barren zephyr]

damn

scam game

[inner hound]

giga shark, a classic

[safe galleon]

another good one was the utah should 1 shot pachy

[elder rivet]

we do a little trolling

[wispy cypress]

bro ikr

[paper oriole]

This one?

[barren zephyr]

No, not legacy again

[safe galleon]

yes

[barren zephyr]

Because herbivore means weak to some people apparently

[paper oriole]

Some people want to just oneshot all herbis and then broadcast roar like they accomplished something for inner jp fanfiction

[barren zephyr]

some of the strongest dinosaurs of all time were herbivores, yet people want carnivores to 1 shot them

[paper oriole]

“Dead skeletons”

[barren zephyr]

calcium sticks

[paper oriole]

As opposed to living skeletons

[elder rivet]

average tailriding fan

[icy lion]

god i remember that

[paper oriole]

Lmao i remember that guy

This one is a real classic

[barren zephyr]

nooooo! I can’t tail ride a 8 ton genetic monstrosity anymore! 👎🤦‍♂️☹️

I’m leaving this game because now I have to actually think about where I’m going to attack and how I’m going to kill the animal I’m hunting! (SCAM)

[barren zephyr]

this is satire, right?

[paper oriole]

Dont think it was

[swift dew]

these are making the ideas we have in #general-feedback rn look like someone actually put some thought before pressing enter

[paper oriole]

Um

Sir

Sir

Please don't

[swift dew]

i dont see the point in that

[paper oriole]

Same

[lilac bolt]

I feel like a idiot but i was basically trying to say more iconic places than just forest

[paper oriole]

Like elephant graveyard?

But like uhh sauropod graveyard

[lilac bolt]

Kind of i guess?

[paper oriole]

Could be cool yeah

[swift dew]

well only 1/4 of the map is accesable right now, so thats part of it. im also 90% sure that the part of the map we have now is going to get redone again. but thats quite some time from now.

[lilac bolt]

Only 1/4 of the map? Jeez the map will be huge

[swift dew]

not to mention this isn't even the biggest map to come

[lilac bolt]

Huh?

[pale bloom]

?

[swift dew]

i think this one once fully released is 16x16 km. compared to isla spero which is 20x20 km iirc

[paper oriole]

Wasnt the other map so big they couldnt get it to work yet so they released this one

[icy lion]

yea

[paper oriole]

The one with a bunch of smaller islands off the coast

[swift dew]

yeah the other one was too big for the engine, so thats why we got a really rushed and bad map on release

[pale bloom]

Well, they gonna have to rework it right because the hot spots issue still exist and have a bigger map will make no sense

[lilac bolt]

The only problem i have with the map is that everything just kind of looks the same right now

[barren zephyr]

yea, personally not a fan of this map. as of now at least.

[paper oriole]

Theyre adding more biomes like the redwoods but yeah its pretty boring rn

[swift dew]

out of the 3 maps that have been confirmed (punch told me there was more coming but he didnt give me the names) im pretty sure isla spero is the biggest, certainly bigger than isla spiro and im guessing it will be bigger than the remake to thenyaw

[pale bloom]

Everyone it's at central river. From pocket pond to the very south

So yeah, still needs work

[lilac bolt]

But it works with what they have right now

[pale bloom]

Perhaps but I've seen parts of the map with huge potential to have people around there and they're just deserts

[barren zephyr]

It would be pretty nice to see a re mastered version of thenyaw or v3. that would be nice.

[lilac bolt]

I don't think desert needs to be added but red wood and more iconic places like they had in the legacy edition would be cool

[barren zephyr]

those maps were pretty simple and easy to get around

[lilac bolt]

I really dont care to much about the map right now i really just want the game to work

[barren zephyr]

right now it’s pretty promising. thankfully

[lilac bolt]

I hope what they showed in the trailer actually comes to the game

[pale bloom]

I agree, the game has huge potential at the current state, the only main issue now since the last small patch the performance on servers (FPS) its awfull

At least I had that issue today. Seems to be fixed after server restarts

But the performance gets affected sometimes by massive amount of bodies

[elder rivet]

v3 is 16x16, spiro is 20x20, and iirc spero is 32x32

[barren zephyr]

yea, it’s quite insane how your frames can get absolutely destroyed by a couple of bodies around the area. Thankfully it will be fixed in the future. but it’s just a burden to deal with atm

@acoustic finch This will happen with every new implemented dinosaur.

a bit of time and it will be fine. I can already see way more herbs than before.

[acoustic finch]

tyty

[lilac bolt]

I was thinking that it would be cool to have a herbivore migration once spiro is done

But just a idea

[swift dew]

you sure spero is that big? thats absolutly gigantic. thats more than double the size of full spiro. no wonder it was too big for the engine

[elder rivet]

i remember a map of spero with a grid, i'll try to find it

[lilac bolt]

That would be so much to walk through

[swift dew]

the wiki says spero is 20x20, but idk if thats correct

[lilac bolt]

Its a wiki so probably not

[elder rivet]

while spero itself is big, each island in it isn't all that big

[swift dew]

idk that main island looks pretty massive to me. if it is 32x32 that small island on the right is probably only slightly smaller than spiro

[lilac bolt]

Which one is spiro?

[elder rivet]

i haven't seen the map in a while so i just remembered the main island as being 3 separate ones

[swift dew]

the whole thing. its all called spero oh wrong question

[mighty light]

how do i get the colored details like red, blue etc on the dino ?

[icy lion]

spiro is the map we have now

[icy lion]

are you on the regular game or evrima?

[mighty light]

regular

[swift dew]

this is spiro shape, the light area is the section we have now, though disregard everything else, all of the other stuff is not up to date

[icy lion]

male dinosaurs have detail colors

[mighty light]

females no ?

[icy lion]

nope

[mighty light]

oh, that sucks

thank you btw xd im kind of new to the game

[icy lion]

all good!

[mighty light]

also, why some ppl have certain dinos and i dont? did they buy em or

[lilac bolt]

You dont buy dinos?

[icy lion]

admins can inject non-survival dinosaurs

some community servers let you earn free points on their discord where you can "buy" the dino

[swift dew]

are you playing legacy? because there are certain sandbox dinos that arent accessable because they weren't fully added yet.

[mighty light]

ahhhh okay i see

[mighty light]

im playing on the regular game i guess

[still raptor]

That's no the entire map

[lilac bolt]

Huh so spero and spiro are 2 different maps but spero is the main one

[still raptor]

Spero was the original planned map that took months to make and was way better than current (Update 3 Beta) Spiro.

[nimble roost]

@little nexus you can use the steam controller configurator to override the isle’s gamepad bindings and put your own, and add even more functionality, dm me if you want more details

[still raptor]

Then it had engine issues and couldn't run on any servers reliably

[swift dew]

so spero is the first picture I showed, everything in that picture is spero. spiro is the current map we have, its the second picture I showed

[still raptor]

Not everything

[lilac bolt]

Spero seems to be gigantic

[still raptor]

This is full Spero

[swift dew]

wdym not everything? is the island on the right not considered spero?

[swift dew]

oooh, so there was a smaller island to the north east

[still raptor]

Yup

4 total islands

[swift dew]

i actually never knew about that

[lilac bolt]

Jeez Spero is absolutely massive

[swift dew]

so im pretty sure the 32x32 of spero is alot of water. but its still has the most amount of land out of all the islands i think

[still raptor]

I have a sheet

hold up

Scaled properly

[lilac bolt]

Yeah so mostly water unless they decide to change it

[swift dew]

interesting. I always thought spero was the biggest and it wasn't even close. turns out its close. and pretty hard to tell which is actually the biggest

[still raptor]

Spero is the biggest map by km x km but Spero also has more landmass.

iirc

[lilac bolt]

Not sure why they wanted so much water on spero though

[swift dew]

honestly they could probably cut off some of the water to make spero run better.

[still raptor]

For Aquatics

[swift dew]

like that huge area to the top left could be cut a decent amount.

[lilac bolt]

But what would the aquatics do just eat fish?

[still raptor]

They can get rid of that 4th unnecessary island (unless Don still wants it for Humans) and get rid of a lot of water.

[elder rivet]

so there's this video about the history of the isle and one part of it had the player walk through a gargantuan map that dwarfed v3, i might be going tinfoil hat mode but maybe the devs had planned a map like spero for legacy idk

[swift dew]

oh and btw grey, they said that there will be tides and the tide will go down and you will be able to cross to the other islands. but you will be stuck there until the tide goes back down

[lilac bolt]

Huh interesting

[still raptor]

Spero was never planned for Legacy. The gargantuan map is Spero. Spero was the map in the Hope Preview and was planned. UE said "fuck you"

[swift dew]

just. dont go if you not certain the water isnt coming back up any time soon. because... you might go for an unwanted swim

[lilac bolt]

Would deinos be able to go in the sea water?

[elder rivet]

i meant a map that was similar to spero, not spero itself

minus the evrima assets

[little nexus]

Thank you very much, I didn't know they had one. I was trying to use X Padder. I've found it and will have a tinker, will get in touch If I need help with something. Thanks again

[icy lion]

@naive osprey number 4 is already a thing, theres guides on youtube. as for the rest, global and group chat are removed permanently, and cross-species grouping has been said to not be coming

[opal wagon]

any idea when stage 3 will be released?

[hybrid matrix]

@keen vapor that map is wrong

[keen vapor]

How?

[hybrid matrix]

wait hang on i think i made a mistake

yeah i did nvm

srry

[keen vapor]

lol

np

[hybrid matrix]

i was looking in the wrong spot

[naive osprey]

Well I get #4 is a thing but dont you have to go in the files and copy it to somewhere? and I didnt know it was permanent but ok then ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[barren zephyr]

When will we see Spiro again? I love that Island and can't wait to watch it progress.

[hybrid matrix]

spero u mean?

the one we have rn is spiro

[barren zephyr]

O yea sorry, I've gotten used to saying Spiro instead.

[paper oriole]

Why did they name the islands like that, spiro and spero

Im sure they coulda come up with better differing names lol

[hybrid matrix]

probably were too lazy to think of other names

i mean i get it
im lazy as fuck

[barren zephyr]

Maybe they thought people wouldn't notice the difference.

[paper oriole]

Like just call it literally anything else like idk

Rawr Island

[hybrid matrix]

Isla TBD

[paper oriole]

Isla isle

[swift dew]

like the 3 confired islands are isla spero, isla spiro, and thenyaw island. why would you do that

[hybrid matrix]

Isla island

[barren zephyr]

Isla Shrek

[paper oriole]

Isla de prueba

[oak finch]

The isle archipelago

[odd sedge]

The isles

[spiral dawn]

man these queue times are great...

[tawny juniper]

Is there going to be a difference between spero and spiro other then an e and an i

[steady lintel]

i always thought spiro was apart of spero till they finished the map and the game could handle the full thing

[swift dew]

well, the island itself is different. but in the names the only difference is the i and e

[wintry monolith]

@umbral linden then denios couldent be able to lounge bc of a to low incline exposining it better way around is making the dinos be able to get out of water on a higher incline. Might be fixed with IK

[compact hare]

@lapis owl theri is already planned

[lapis owl]

@compact hare amazing

its my favorite dino

[spark rover]

Are the ptera and the croc locked to certain servers only? I have evrima and I can't play as them.

[lapis owl]

did you download the quality assurance beta?

[compact hare]

you have to download the quallity assurance branch, in betas

[lapis owl]

right click the isle in steam then click betas, then in the drop down menu click the quality assurance @spark rover

[spark rover]

Gotcha I only downloaded the Evrima one

thanks

[compact hare]

that skin and model of the picture is from TI btw, or TSL idk, its related to the game, and they made a new model for it

[lapis owl]

nice, when do you think the Theri is coming out? @compact hare

[compact hare]

later down the line I believe, its a (I believe) "pseudo apex", a very strong one

they already made the mistake to add a huge stego in the current smal tiers roster so I dont think its coming even this year

theri boi

[lapis owl]

noice, and yeah im willing to wait, game developing is incredibly hard so i dont blame them for taking a while

[compact hare]

I cant wait to see this model with a skin and animated

[raw tide]

@still raptor Why not=?

[still raptor]

Different species

^

[raw tide]

and? its a game,

let a damn dryo chat with stegos >> lol

[still raptor]

Nah

^

[raw tide]

theres no mix packing irl?

[oak finch]

its not so common to where every herbi can do it with one another

[vernal topaz]

Is there gonna be a new system for joining a server im so sick and tired of clicking refresh for like 20 mins only to get the spot stolen

[oak finch]

and only happens during certain events like a giant migration

also not as if they speak the same language lol

[raw tide]

so make the game anti social cause realism
makes sense to make people care about smaller species

[oak finch]

its not antisocial, its just youll have to communicate in other ways, like the roars

[raw tide]

same species communicating using human language, please disable chat,
is what you basically saying

[still raptor]

No he's not lmao

[oak finch]

no

hes not

[raw tide]

and herbis can kill each other even if they can chat >>

so whats the issue

[oak finch]

you could probably play a custom server where they allow it, it just doesnt necessarilly make sense in a vanilla server

this ismt a fun game where you play easy, its a survival horror, and not being able to talk your way out helps with the immersion oof the game imo

[raw tide]

forcing people into chat rooms doesnt make the game better

[cyan flame]

There's no need to talk to other herbis, you can communicate well enough with body language and calls, same with carnis.

[oak finch]

noor does cattering to a group of people that want the devs too change the game to something that they dont want to make

[raw tide]

just like you got mute packs of rexes on legacy not using a single call, while in vc >> not making the game better

[silver zephyr]

I honestly like the dynamic of other herbis not understanding me, instead of typing "x carnivore over there" I have to use my calls and other possible body language to show em

[oak finch]

^

[still raptor]

^

[raw tide]

would you rather people use in game chat, > making sounds , or they go into private chats where they are mutes and no sounds made in game at all

[still raptor]

Making sounds

Chat only for your own species

Fuck mix species communication

[raw tide]

which will result in ppl chatting on discord overlay rather than ingame

[cyan flame]

People don't use ingame chat anyway if they can avoid it, would make no real difference, maybe global but even then. And we don't want that anyway.

[oak finch]

a custom server would be able to give you the choice to chat in game with other herbis

its called a mod

yeah people would do that either way

you cant stop em from using third party apps

[raw tide]

yep, but denying commucation, you are actively making it more important, and more people will seek to do so

[oak finch]

but you can already communicate through roars

which is more interesting than just typing what you want to tell

[silver zephyr]

eh, tbh I think you vastly overestimate the amount of people who will join a discord call with randos to communicate better

[cyan flame]

Even so Soup, different herbis shouldn't really talk to each other anyway, they're not friends, they're just slightly more tolerable entities since they're hopefully not planning to eat you.

[oak finch]

unless roars can be interpreted differently

[cyan flame]

Very much so. I'd rather the dryo squeak and run than stop to tell me "utah in the bush", I'll react well enough if the dryo isn't just crying raptor all the time. :p

[vast condor]

You need to fix the misplaced spawning. Sometimes me and my mates spawn at same location, but one of us spawns on a mountain side and cant move or else you die and so on.. i've spawned in water too and instantly drowned.

[oak finch]

as they say abut the boy who cries wolf

its fun to sometimes miscommunicate

or to misunderstand a warning of a coming predator, cause next time i hear the same roar, ill understand the warning

[raw tide]

and if you want the game to succeed you will need people to get to know eachother and make new friends along the way,

[oak finch]

well thats for the humans to do

we aint humans, we dinos

[raw tide]

its a game dude

[oak finch]

also who says a game has to be social to be successful, like look at the witcher 3, or Rust.

not all games are the same dude

you can share an experience without talking, relationships are beyond just words

[raw tide]

"Rust"?
it would be dead with 0 emergent player behaveiour lmao

[oak finch]

well depending on your species

im sure therell be some dino that cant herd at all, ooh wait thats not the issue adoy

but thats another thing

[noble plaza]

after every death against a player ur stuck in the death screen

[oak finch]

might wanna go to #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 bud @noble plaza

[paper oriole]

How can you compare the isle to witcher 3 an rpg with interactive NPCs, story, mini games and quests

Isle is designed around player interaction and pvp balance

[oak finch]

that yoou dont need interaction with real humans for it to be a game

[paper oriole]

If you have a bunch of other shit in the game that substitutes that, yes, but the isle does not

[oak finch]

their are roars

[paper oriole]

What

[oak finch]

thats a mean of social interactioon for one

for the isle

[raw tide]

your idea of everyone being a RP "im a dinosaur" guy is valiant, but it is not how it will turn out in practice at all, so letting people not part of premade groups communicate better should be a thing, you can wish for your happy RP dinosaur game, but it will never happen untill they make a game mode where you cant choose the server you join

[paper oriole]

Maybe realism servers can disable all chats and grouping and everything and then people will just use discord and barely anything will change

[oak finch]

thats clearly what the game designers want cause thats what they are doing

a immersive experience being a dinosaur, also thats not all the game will be, theirll be human with guns, monstrous mutants, and tribals that ride dinos

[cyan flame]

What are we even arguing now? The devs removed global and group chat because they did not feel it fits with what the game is going for. They also have mentioned herbis having chats together is bad because mixherding becomes an issue. As such, it's unlikely we get any such chats back. Will people just use discord? Yes. Can we stop that? Probably not. But that does not mean the game should encourage behaviour and stuff it does not want to be a thing in the first place.

[oak finch]

^

[raw tide]

Embrace a problem // ignore it

[cyan flame]

?

[oak finch]

but its not a problem, its a design choice

[swift dew]

@rocky iris i like your idea but btw that isnt even close to the entire confirmed roster, even if you add everything from legacy, there is still a good 15 animals you didn't mention, not that it matters. anyway good idea 👍

[rocky iris]

I only know of the 14 so idk what the others even are oop, not counting legacy animals.

Unless I'm going off of an older list then that's my bad.

[silver zephyr]

off the top of my head you missed megalania, idk about anything else though

[swift dew]

(Credit to Cerato444)

here is a lsit of the entire confirmed roster if you wanted to know

-Acrocanthosaurus atokensis
-Albertosaurus sarcophagus
-Allosaurus fragilis
-Ankylosaurus magniventris
-Austroraptor cabazai
-Avaceratops lammersi

-Baryonyx walkeri
-Beipiaosaurus inexpectus
-Brachiosaurus altithorax
-Brontosaurus ajax

-Camarasaurus supremus
-Carnotaurus sastrei
-Ceratosaurus nasicornis
-Compsognathus longipes

-Deinosuchus rugosus (possibly riograndensis)
-Diabloceratops eatoni
-Dilophosaurus wetherilli
-Dryosaurus altus

-Gallimimus bullatus
-Giganotosaurus carolinii

-Herrerasaurus ischigualastensis
-Homalocephale calathoceros
-Hypsilophodon foxii

-Kentrosaurus aethiopicus

-Magyarosaurus dacus
-Maiasaura peeblesorum
-Megalania (Varanus priscus)
-Minmi paravertebra
-Monolophosaurus jiangi

-Orodromeus makelai
-Oviraptor philoceratops

-Pachycephalosaurus wyomingensis
-Pachyrhinosaurus perotorum
-Parasaurolophus tubicen
-Plateosaurus engelhardti
-Protoceratops andrewsi
-Psittacosaurus mongoliensis
-Pteranodon longiceps

-Quetzalcoatlus northropi

-Rugops primus

-Shantungosaurus giganteus
-Spinosaurus aegyptiacus
-Stegosaurus stenops
-Styracosaurus albertensis
-Suchomimus tenerensis

-Tenontosaurus tilleti
-Therizinosaurus cheloniformis
-Titanoboa cerrejonens
-Triceratops horridus
-Troodon inaequalis
-Tyrannosaurus rex

-Utahraptor ostrommaysorum

-Velociraptor mongoliensis

An Unknown Community Dino and an Unknown Small Flyer are also confirmed. (I think they small flyer will be Tupandactylus.)
(If I missed anything or made any errors please contact me in #general-feedback-discussion .)
This list was made to assist players/fans and display all species found within the Isle.

The Following 3 are speculations
-Diplodocus
-Mosasaurus
-Rauisuchus

[oak finch]

rauisuchus would be so awesome

[raw tide]

The problem is people, excuse me "Dinosaurs" forming groups in 3rd party programs due to lack of letting people talk to each other in game.

Ingoring that problem, will simply lead to more people making more groups in 3rd party programs.

[rocky iris]

holy moly

[oak finch]

Why should it matter if people use third party programs

[cyan flame]

@raw tide And you can't really solve that, unless you figure out a way to prevent said programs while playing the Isle.

[oak finch]

^

[raw tide]

which is why you embrace the problem

not ignore it

to mitigate it

[cyan flame]

@raw tide Which goes against the design of the game. Which the devs don't want. Like I said, just because they can't prevent it, does not mean they should encourage it, or let the game allow it. At least that's how they see it.

[oak finch]

^

[cyan flame]

You can mitigate it by having the chats, take away the chat noise, and all that. Yes. But then you're saying this is how the game should be played, when it is not, and the devs don't want it to be that way. If you disagree, then I suggest you bring up a suggestion with good arguments as to why embracing it would be better for the game and the feel of it.

[swift dew]

useing discord to gain a tactical advantage is cheating, just as much as any other kinds of cheating are. the only time I say discord isnt cheating in a game like this is when playing with friends. thats understandable

[oak finch]

they shouldnt have to give up on the design of the game because they want to prevent people from dooing soomething on a different app

[upper summit]

❌

It isn't cheating

[cyan flame]

Just not playing as intended

[oak finch]

its doing something that going against the design of the game, id dare say it ruins the fun of the game

[cyan flame]

Not cheating, but questionable never the less

[oak finch]

its alot more boring to

[upper summit]

Bro this is why I don't like this server

it has so many dev dick riders

like

if the devs dont like afk growing

u wont do it

just play the game how u want

[silver zephyr]

[oak finch]

but afk growing is boring

[cyan flame]

Huh?

[rocky iris]

fixed my feedback 'course of the dumb 2k character limit

[upper summit]

that isnt my point

[oak finch]

at that point you arent playing the game

[silver zephyr]

agree with devs on something = dick rider

[cyan flame]

The devs don't like afkgrowing and they plan to implement things to prevent it?

[upper summit]

saying that being in a vc is cheating because it goes against the design of the game, really?

that's like saying

[cyan flame]

Well you are using third party programs, you could say that you're already "breaking" the game in some way. But people are free to do so, even if it's most likely not intended that you use them.

But I mean, the devs want us to not know stats exactly, but I'm sure people will test and post that information somewhere soon enough

[upper summit]

"the devs dont want me to use voice communication and instead want me to F call, giving away my pos at all times during a hunt and use a forced local chat so i will do just that"

[oak finch]

its just a boring and less fulfillinbg way of playing if yoou use vs

[cyan flame]

Doesn't mean they are going to give us the stats ingame just because the info will get out eventually

I don't use VC anyway, I'm fine with ingame methods, always have been, chat noise or no chat noise :p

Also learned the hard way that stopping to type during battle is bad. Use calls, body language, no need to talk if you know what you're doing and have things planned out.

[upper summit]

I am too but to say people are cheating because they are in a voice chat and hunting strategically is so stupid.

[oak finch]

but thats what animals do

[upper summit]

But that's not what I want to do so I won't do it

[cyan flame]

@upper summit I did not call it cheating. I said it wasn't playing as intended, which it is not, but I was not the one to call it cheating.

[upper summit]

my bad

[swift dew]

i called it cheating, because it kinda is. you gain a tactical advantage by useing something outside of the game that wasn't intended. but this I 100% agree with

[raw tide]

@jaunty sinew oh dinos can voice chat, but not talk in local=?

makes sense

[oak finch]

and so fuck everyone else because im super serious about winning this unfinished game

[upper summit]

woah there

calm down son, never said that

[oak finch]

but you dant want to give people the opportunity to escape by talking in game

theirs text chat in game

[upper summit]

Tracking

There's nothing wrong with using a voice chat while hunting, it's instant communication and feedback plus I almost always do it with friends

[oak finch]

i wish theyd add in game VC

[upper summit]

Assuming they lose the fight though

[oak finch]

which they will if they have no warning at all, and you dont screw up

ifd theyd add in game "VC" thatd fix some issues, but still make it so that not same species didnt hear you saying words but instead dinoo noises

so its noot just you making silence

[raw tide]

👀

oh no in game cross species chat

better to chat in steam

[oak finch]

in game cross species chat is still stupid and he still thinks that, his example is of him and his friend as gigas

[raw tide]

yep its even worse doing it as same species imo

[oak finch]

?

[raw tide]

but if you allow communication in game
you will not encourage that behaveiour

[oak finch]

are you saying creatures of the same species are incapable of communication? cause if so this whole thing is making alot more sense

[oak finch]

im not saying people cant or shouldnt do VC, its that it feels like it takes away from the game in very meaningful ways, but in all honesty if you are just looking to hunt and kill, then i can understand why really need that advantage over everyone you are hunting

[raw tide]

@oak finch no? im saying using 3rd party chat to chat to group mate is worse, than being being able to chat with a random dryo as a trike or w/e

[swift dew]

@rocky iris take away the part where it credits me, i didnt make it

[rocky iris]

i mainly credit cause you shared it but will do!

[livid fern]

anyone knows when is the stress test over?

[cyan flame]

But you will encourage the behaviour itself.

[swift dew]

hate to ping you again, but you left my name at the top. i just dont want anybody to get upset because this took them 6 months to make so I want them to have sufficient credit

[rocky iris]

understood! @swift dew