A little ridiculous
#general-feedback-discussion
glad dirge
mental marlin
heres a smart idea , get ready for it... dont go to shallow areas where you can easily get killed
its not rocketscience people cmon
past tusk
also utah pounce needs work again, its been over-nerfed. I'm fine with the reduced damage, but the stun when missing a pounce is a brain-dead and lazy design. Right now:
you get stuck in an animation lock when you miss - utah pounce should be on a timer like carno charge./stam penalty if you miss
you successfully pounce but get a animation lock when dismounting, easily letting stegos who are watching you to get a free kill.
you cant pounce close to water as you fall off automatically even if the stego has a single law in the water
the only good thing about it is the endurance drains slower when using it
glad dirge
Isn't it when stegos have like a toe in the water you get knocked off
urban flax
@novel wing What's unrealistic is that you can bleed out a deino
But you can for balance reasons
zinc rivet
also utah pounce needs work again, its been over-nerfed. I'm fine with the reduc...
utah pounce shreds stegos from what ive been hearing
glad dirge
Tiny legs, can't drag a trike into water
past tusk
@zinc rivet ofc it does, i have a hunting discord we regulary kill them, buut there are many bugs we are finding in our testing, you should not be 100% hittable when dismountiing, wheres the skill v reward in that. its just lazy
slim trout
Crocs are more likely to make an animal lose balance than drag him in. if done right
mental marlin
where would deinosuchus even get a grip , you gonna bite its face? ;)
good luck with that
glad dirge
Trikes have tons of strength in their neck and head. They were made for brawling they can yeet deinos just fine
urban flax
You're forgetting one thing about Deino vs Trike matchup
Deino weighs 8 tons
There's no way it can pull another 8 tons into water
mental marlin
pretty much
urban flax
Even if it is exhausted, we're talking about something heavier than a truck
zinc rivet
<@!339607213146374157> ofc it does, i have a hunting discord we regulary kill th...
i mean it's a Stegosaurus :p
near hound
I haven’t looked myself so maybe you guys might know. What’s the weight of a fully grown deino and a fully grown stego in game currently?
past tusk
youtube vids arnt allowd?
glad dirge
Animal death or something
pale bloom
<@!339607213146374157> ofc it does, i have a hunting discord we regulary kill th...
So you can't sprint after dismounting? It's a thing I've seen on videos but not sure if it's a player stuff or just the mechanic itself
urban flax
This is high-school level physics. Making something bigger doesn't proportionnaly increase its strength. Otherwise t-rexes would run 120 km/h.
past tusk
@pale bloom you can sprint after dismounting but now the devs have added a dismount animation that keeps you stuck in place long enough for a tail swipe
glad dirge
What, gross
pale bloom
<@!435451875387506690> you can sprint after dismounting but now the devs have ad...
Well you can always face your tail to the Stego and survive the swing but yeah if the Stego has time to hit you waiting you to dismount it's a bit odd
glad dirge
Unless the trike is in the water, swimming. Trike would almost always win against deino
urban flax
This is why comparing what real crocs can kill to what a deino could kill makes little sense
cyan flame
Considering you don't even need four pounces, seems to be about two now, I don't know. Pounce with a full pack and the stego most likely dies before you need to dismount in the first place.
glad dirge
It's hard to exhaust an 8 ton mass of muscle and bone built for brawling
urban flax
I'm not good enough in maths to calculate it, but according to the square meter rule, considering a 500kg croc can drag 1 ton, I highly doubt a 8 ton deino could drag anything over 6 tons
past tusk
Well you can always face your tail to the Stego and survive the swing but yeah i...
thats the point im makiing, i regulary angle myself 90o do their body length, at best i get tagged int he tail, NOW though there is a short animation lock when you dismount, obviously the Q&A team dont test things thoroughly, my boys already worked this out iin update 2 and a carno can 100% bite a dismounting utah 😉
glad dirge
But even a tug of war it won't stand a chance
I think it would be cool if there was like a latch attack, yeah
pale bloom
thats the point im makiing, i regulary angle myself 90o do their body length, at...
With the nerf to missing pounce stun animation, getting Guaranteed hits after dismounting sucks, that shouldnt happen imo
glad dirge
Where you would grapple on, kinda like pounce
pale bloom
Kinds ruins the point of the pounce
glad dirge
Yeah, if they can pick up something they lunge at they should just hold on
near hound
I feel like the deino grab and drag would be limited to legs and possibly tails for the bigger dinos like trike and stego 🤔
I do hope they include something like that since that would be very interesting
glad dirge
But if you grapple onto a big ol steggie that's on you if you get curbstomped
Hopefully this doesn't lead into the 1 shot headshot convos
Because 1 shots are not fun if you are big
near hound
My only fear are the mid tier critters. It would be a bummer if they were (depending on stats and so fourth) 1 shot, or nearly, by deino. Obviously some mid tiers would just be too small to fully escape, but the balance for that I’m genuinely curious and nervous about
near hound
Yeah I can agree with that
slim trout
never seen those but thats yikes, yeah nah
near hound
Stego 1 to 2 shots utah
I think that’s reasonable
glad dirge
I agree, I hope they never make it 1 shot or 2 shot carno because that's stupid
They can already drown adult carnos
lone pumice
there needs to be more stuff to do man...i've been eating/drinking water as stego and going afk for hours because there's no point of risking yourself until you're fully grown and can actually defend
lone pumice
carnivores are fun but the concept is still the same even for hunting purposes
but i feel like 80% of the servers are carnos
lone pumice
lag is pretty rough for sure especially if you're flying around and hit a tree because of it
i will say the next update will help the game with the perk system for sure
but i don't know if it'll solve the fundamental issue of just afking until full grown
near hound
Idk if any of you have been around for ye olden times of the isle but I’ve noticed that with ptera bodies they’re doing the “tumble weeding” dealio again. I’m unsure if that’s contributing to the lag we’re seeing in QA right now
hollow minnow
I've noticed this will every body, actually..
near hound
Uh oh 😟
glad dirge
Sometimes they are grabable
hollow minnow
The only bodies i've seen not doing the postmortem break dance is fish.
slim trout
The only bodies i've seen not doing the postmortem break dance is fish.
fish like to dance too...Can confirm
urban flax
Even meat chunks do it sometimes
hollow minnow
fish like to dance too...Can confirm
When you try to eat them, yeah Lol
slim trout
I like when you see fish bobbing below deinos following them around
past tusk
nah, Ive watched them bug the hell out
this is a repeatable situation, if you kill a ptera while its jumping or flying it will spaz out on the ground. the interesting thing is if you sniff the body and see the red particles, go to them and eat, the server logs the body location despite what the visual representatioin is
carmine path
With how they are describing it, AFK growing will only punish yourself later on
near hound
With how they are describing it, AFK growing will only punish yourself later on
How is it being described from your understanding? I was wondering about this the other day when I was growing a dino and vaguely recall watching a stream where a dev member mentioned AFK growing as not being encouraged.
spiral ravine
it's called the affinity system, don't know if they changed it, but the idea is you grow slower if you afk grow
players actively moving get faster growth and potential buffs
carmine path
How is it being described from your understanding? I was wondering about this th...
Basically you get a shit ton of horrid debuffs in stam-stam regen, health, biteforce, slower growth and the only way to catch up is by making it a very tough and agonizing grind from what punch has been saying
near hound
Ohhh I see. That’s interesting 🤔
So I assume the idea is to travel around more as your dino to prevent that?
spiral ravine
yes, it's not implemented yet
swift dew
Basically you get a shit ton of horrid debuffs in stam-stam regen, health, bitef...
but, certain animals will be allowed to cannibalize, such as cera. and I wouldn't be surprised if carno and deino will be able to aswell
carmine path
but, certain animals will be allowed to cannibalize, such as cera. and I wouldn'...
Talking bout Anti-AFK system
near hound
Ahh okay got it. Well that’ll be really cool to see. Definitely curious to see the change in the environment when that is eventually added.
swift dew
Talking bout Anti-AFK system
im tired today
they were talking about cannibalism in #balance-feedback and then you said debuffs so im dumb
carmine path
The albinism thing is kinda whack, more of a reward then punishment in my opinion
Just tells you this guy is great against x dino vs x dino
urban flax
Tells you that you can't trust them
Makes them way easier to spot
Especially if they also get red eyes
tall oasis
Just tells you this guy is great against x dino vs x dino
agree
d
canibalizm is a very unhealthy playstyle
near hound
Yeah and I actually like coloring my dino albino in legacy so I’m not totally sure about that one. But hey if theyre albino and get a debuff that’s not so bad. And yes I agree that albinism would definitely be more noticeable so you can hustle away from that player.
urban flax
Yeah cannibalizing needs more a debuff than simply becoming albino
carmine path
I would be proud of being an albino hell I would SS it be like who else wanna fuck with me, there is just no real cause to not cannibalize, however I will say some dinosaurs should be immune to this like deino for example
Considering Crocodiles and Alligators alike do cannibalize frequently to kill opposing offspring and over dominance of territory
near hound
That is also a good point 🤔
barren zephyr
Noice
red viper
The fog idea for trees in the distance is so good
barren zephyr
The fog idea for trees in the distance is so good
fluid orchid
I thought so anyway, glad someone agrees.
near hound
Oh yes! That would be very visually pleasing to see. Foggy weather in a jungle atmosphere would be beautiful.
barren zephyr
Here is my feedback:
Stop putting 
emojis on peoples feedbacks.
Asking people to be quiet because they have a different opinion than yours is just wrong.
odd sedge
You do realise that's what people do when they heard the same feedback for the millionth time and or it's not for the right chat.
Like questions
It's not necessarily about the opinion
paper geyser
it literally never is about the opinion
it's for when people don't read any previous feedback, misuse the channel, or have an incredibly selfish suggestion
the cross is for disagreeing
odd sedge
Or for example when the suggestion is literally like Add this. Buff this dinosaur, etc. without any reasons. It's just junk in the channel, not disagreement
barren zephyr
I know, people who post feedback don’t read* the ones that are already there, but what do you expect with 60k+ members on the Discord 
I do agree that feedbacks should always be constructive with more details to back up your statement/suggestion. Some of them are not pertinent.
But some emojis has been used in a rude way, (not all of them of course).
odd sedge
I know, people who post feedback don’t read* the ones that are already there, bu...
Fair point but take the queue system for example.
How many times have you read that stuff already? Even after the devs spoke out about it. People keep suggesting it and after all that, there simply isn't the need to discuss it anymore
mellow tartan
EU 3 is still offline
barren zephyr
To be honest i try to read the developments everyday and follow as much as i can but Queue slipped my eyes because i never heard about it before seeing the millions feedbacks about it.
astral crescent
mental grail
Gotta love when people just laugh at your feedback lol
lone pumice
spent like 3 hours growing a stego, came on and off every so often to eat/drink, went to take a nap for like an hour, came back dead. sadge, all that hard work lost...
maybe next time i'll start up netflix or something, top tier gameplay
glad dirge
rip 
still raptor
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paper oriole
That corpse guarding debuff sounds like a great thing to use to grief nesting herbis by dragging a dryo body near them for shits and giggles
dapper fossil
Are there any plans to bring official servers back to legacy branch?
woven tree
@still raptor you lost me at the point when the bottom left of your taskbar, I cant find where to type %APPDATA%
odd sedge
The search bar
odd sedge
All good
woven tree
it says it cant be completed bc the file is open somewhere else?
or its open in another program
so im guessing this will delete all the dinos I have gotten? or that I have grown?
worldly ginkgo
@unborn monolith carnivores do too
unborn monolith
oof they should fix that then lol
paper oriole
Magy's tastebad ability sounds kinda trash, so unless it's a really good defense that can deter KFS because not being very edible won't stop KFSers, making you keep up a special diet for a lame and barely useful ability wouldn't be fun
Right now people kill for fun, people have always killed for fun, even herbis. Tasting bad or making you sick if you eat it will NOT save magy and isn't worth upkeeping
swift dew
@mellow steppe while i agree magy would be suited for beach life, you just nerfed a bad special ability into an even worse one, if magy had a poison that affected anyone who even bit it then the eating the correct plants would be fine, but if its just eating the magy makes you sick then making it eat special plants would make a terrible ability even worse
mellow steppe
<@!723257151379865753> while i agree magy would be suited for beach life, you ju...
how would it eating the plants make it worse
paper oriole
Because your passive poor defense now requires upkeep to have
swift dew
how would it eating the plants make it worse
because now you have a bad ability that only activates sometimes instead of just having a bad ability
mellow steppe
true
paper oriole
It was a useless ‘defense’ to begin with
paper oriole
Maybe if there were deadly plants like manchineels magy was immune to and could use for shelter and toxicity buffs it could help against KFSers but that probably aint great either as an ability
I really feel like the devs dont even know how to make magy viable but the model and anims are already made, the money is already spent
mellow steppe
yeah
another passive ability i was thinking abut is thick skin
that magy takes less incoming damage and has high bleed resistance
swift dew
i feel that magy should get a poison, but the problem with this is that its immpossible for the poison to be in the "sweetspot" of potency, as either magy is untouchable, or its utterly defenseless
paper oriole
Magy could use poison to be a troll and a cunt however he looks kinda slow too
hasty dagger
Maybe poison has to be “restocked” by following your diet or eating something specific, if you don’t eat a certain amount of X, you don’t get as potent poison or any poison at all.
carmine path
Tbh with the addition magy it seems like they threw a dart at a wall to see where it landed and we got magy, it has a poison dart frog type niche that just seems useless in most scenarios unless it secrets poison slime like a real poison frog
Secretes*
paper oriole
Magy can roll in and eat toxic plants to make predators not want to touch it
Google ‘dwarf sauropod’
What is the first result
Convinced this is how they picked magy
carmine path
Not magy
paper oriole
swift dew
@mighty comet did you really just ping a guy from 3 YEARS AGO
tepid ferry
Is the bug where the timer is 0 but you can’t spawn known about in QA branch?
barren zephyr
What do ya'll think of my concept that Herbis could carry fruits, branches, etc?
hollow minnow
I can get behind that.
paper oriole
more herbi quality of life yes pls
-carrying fruit and leaves n shit
-having a sneak so not only carnis get to walk around quietly
-being able to sniff while moving instead of standing in place for 30seconds moaning and grunting
pale bloom
-moving attack for the Stego
paper oriole
yeah its weird that you cant move and swing your tail at the same time as a quadruped
i can see them not letting you sprint while doing it but trot at least
north nimbus
thats gonna be so broken though 😭
pale bloom
But the sniff thing isn't 30 secs, in Evrima it's actually faster than it legacy sniff, it's not a big issue I think Carnis are able to sniff while moving to track down bleeding dinos
paper oriole
trotting while swinging aint broken
pale bloom
thats gonna be so broken though 😭
It shouldn't if the attack has less power than the standing in place swing
Give it a moving attack doing less damage
paper oriole
herbs should be able to sniff while moving to scent everything but tracks, to sniff tracks they should still need to stand still
north nimbus
better have much less power otherwise stego is just gonna shart on everything
paper oriole
i mean stego is slow af even when he runs
pale bloom
Stronger than a bite tho, but weaker than standing in place swing
paper oriole
trotting swing isnt busted at all
barren zephyr
@pseudo copper
Why did you say "probably a group of asian" people?
paper oriole
wasnt one of them typing in chinese(?)
barren zephyr
wasnt one of them typing in chinese(?)
Oh makes sense then
paper oriole
its pretty common known that a lot of the mega groups on pvp games are asians though, and they are merciless lol
barren zephyr
Dont see how race was relevant though
zinc rivet
TI has a bad history w/ mega groups of players from China going way out of their way to jus grief the game
paper geyser
every game has that issue
paper oriole
whenever im in a pvp death match or open world game and i see the asians join i know i'm about to get destroyed
paper oriole
it isnt racist it just happens
barren zephyr
TI has a bad history w/ mega groups of players from China going way out of their...
I think the isle just has issues of megagroups in general griefing not just "Chinese" megagroups
pale bloom
I've encountered those the first 3 days of the QA, they were KOSing in the east river spawn and the last Deino alive was one guy talking in Chinese, he tried to kill me with 2 PTs as support to track and they failed
zinc rivet
<:TI_GarboSquint:830454873933611038> I think the isle just has issues of megagr...
it's not being racist it's just stating that these mega groups are from a Chinese player base and have consistently fucked w/ the game to the point of notoriety
barren zephyr
it's not being racist it's just stating that these mega groups are from a Chines...
Never said it was racist
zinc rivet
you're acting edgy about it lol
barren zephyr
just a bit strange to call out only "chinese" megagroups
paper oriole
like look at the hacked servers on legacy, a majority of them seem to be chinese. can't really blame them but it's a thing that happens
pale bloom
There's megagroups of all countries and kinds, but we gotta admit Chinese are the most usual ones , on all games
paper geyser
you only say that because you only notice the chinese ones
megagroups from all countries are on all games
china stands out because of their unique script
pale bloom
you only say that because you only notice the chinese ones
No 
zinc rivet
the language rly makes it stand out yea
paper oriole
i've seen a lot of russian megapacks and cringy american megapacks with their clan tags but i've seen more chinese ones
even seen some german ones, but chinese are the biggest
regardless, the megapacks are annoying and shouldnt be allowed to come into the final product at least not with ease
unless its on their own servers or what ever
pale bloom
regardless, the megapacks are annoying and shouldnt be allowed to come into the ...
It's hard to moderate that with in game mechanics and it will be server dependant entirely
molten tulip
Workflow wise individual mechanics and dinosaurs depend entirely on each other when it comes to debugging. For example you can make a bonebreak system or whatever, debug it til it works properly, but if you release it without pachy then or any dino that can use it whats the point
Then if you add pachy to it, suddenly a lot of new bugs pop up that make the update unreleasable until you spend months untangling everything and smoothing things out
Game dev doesn't work like <program bone break> <program pachy>, its more like a heap of strings you have to organize so you cant just release small neat updates
Plus preparing the game for build and then pushing to steam for release takes much more work than just clicking an upload button
zinc rivet
@lapis tree we dont know how tf perks are even gonna work
im expecting just basic bitch stat boosts
paper oriole
Why even give velo venom lol
zinc rivet
honestly that too
paper oriole
Then its discount troodon
zinc rivet
but still like i doubt perks would work like that
im expecting a very basic version of BoBs. Tougher hide, more endurance, stronger bite, better regen etc
not actually mutating your animal
id be totally happy w/ something as simple as that honestly
swift dew
they are leaning away from perks that directly affect combat, an idea would be more like allowing utahs to scramble up trees at the cost of a small amount of regular running speed (thats just an idea)
zinc rivet
oh that's interesting
i like how that sounds
hope the execution is good
and hope it doesn't make update 4 take half a year
lethal quartz
anyone think they should make some upcoming semi-aquatics have freshwater and saltwater capabilities? kind of worried that freshwater biomes are going to be too competitive, small and constricting for the amount of semi-aquatics coming to the game, so they'll have to introduce coastal biomes to change that.
zealous violet
Interesting. Since I can garentee that grouped people would just sit and bite each other, heal then bite each other again until they are full grown in order to gain a battle perk like bite resistance or bleed resistance
zealous violet
anyone think they should make some upcoming semi-aquatics have freshwater and sa...
Honestly, I just want more places to explore. more hide away, more tunnels, more neat cliffs with secret paths, ect.
lethal quartz
@zealous violet oooh yeah, we could definitely use more underwater caves, foliage and hiding spaces, that's for sure.
pseudo copper
<@!270355038386257921>
Why did you say "probably a group of asian" people?
I only wanted to highlight that to give extra information. Why'd you ask?
ashen elm
Re the Stego and Deino interactions. Again the solution is to not nerf Stego, it's making the rivers larger and more hazardous to swim.
Because what you are gonna do when this same thing happens with other large carnivores and herbivores that Deino can't grab either. Anky, Shant, or heck a Sauropod.
Nerf them all too? No. This is an environmental and mechanic problem. BoB has this same thing, but avoids it because there are plenty of water systems to get around a herd trying to stick their butts in the water first.
Exactly. You need to change the environment because people will and do exploit using larger animals to bully semi-aquatics if it's possible.
Or any animal really. Aquatic environments just need more connections and rivers so they don't feel trapped.
If we get the larger version of Deino, I could see it preying on Stego but it is what it is. If Stego is an apex, it doesn't feel fair to just get pulled in and die from a one-shot that doesn't have counter-play outside of just drinking in swallow water.
rip
It'd be really hard to balance in a ecosystem to be fair. The dev team don't want their monster Spino getting bullied ig.
I think that's fair but we barely have deep water as it is.
TBH most of the river systems are really shallow. Spino probably wouldn't be able to hide in them as it is lol.
I think a few rivers also need to be wider. This is why sand bars exist. To create risk between swimming areas. A Utah shouldn't be able to clear 90% of the rivers in one jump.
Or failing that, you can also use man-made bridges that dinosaurs can cross.
I dislike monster Spino. I would've preferred the delicate but unique tadpole 2020 version as a coastal predator.
But apex PvP ig
paper oriole
Microraptor is too small to be valuable to the ecosystem
Compy is already kinda pushing it but at least its terrestrial so it'd be less of a hassle to catch than micro
barren zephyr
Microraptor is too small to be valuable to the ecosystem
It could add something to the atmosphere, but we already got Velo.
paper oriole
Compy would also probably beat micro for his lunch money
paper oriole
It could add something to the atmosphere, but we already got Velo.
Shanag or changyu can fit the arboreal glider niche if they dont fictionalize velo for it
They are both more sizeable than micro
barren zephyr
Shanag or changyu can fit the arboreal glider niche if they dont fictionalize ve...
What are those?
paper oriole
One sec
paper oriole
Fragmentary bastard but so was pue lol
Leaves room for creative design
Changyuraptor
Well, pretty small for dinosaurs but big enough they play a role in the food chain
barren zephyr
They're cool, but I kinda feel like we already have enough small/tiny terrestrial carnivores.
barren zephyr
Well, pretty small for dinosaurs but big enough they play a role in the food cha...
I mean, everything plays a roll in the food chain. But I see what your saying.
paper oriole
They are mostly arboreal gliders with terrestrial capability. The arboreal niche is in pretty empty save for herrera atm
swift dew
did someone say that they really wanted deino to be 14 tons? rex mains smh
barren zephyr
They are mostly arboreal gliders with terrestrial capability. The arboreal niche...
True, I think it'd be cool to have a sizeable arboreal pterosaur. R.I.P Monke.
paper oriole
They can just say theyre using one of the smaller species, bam fixed
Monke would be cool af if he wwsnt the size of a rat
Yeah
barren zephyr
Monke would be cool af if he wwsnt the size of a rat
So much missed potential...
paper oriole
He weighs less than compy
I mean they could fictionalize dimorphodon with some monkeydactyl hands lol
Or something
barren zephyr
What do ya'll think of Tupa? (Not as the arboreal pterosaur just as a normal, pterosaur.)
paper oriole
Tupandactylus, europejara or pterodaustro would all be good picks for an herbi flyer imo
Better than tapejara who is a midget
Fruit bat tupa/europ
barren zephyr
I'm may be wrong but, I'm pretty sure the new confirmed small flyer is Tupa. Because most people love it, and it's in Carnage which is in the I believe same universe.
paper oriole
Would be pretty cool, herbis are missing out on a lot of niches
So if its tupa then
swift dew
what. is. that.
paper oriole
Dam that man could store food on those skewers
Stick fish and meat slabs on them to make jerky
barren zephyr
Dam that man could store food on those skewers
The Fish-kabob Dino
paper oriole
Kebab niche
barren zephyr
what. is. that.
Nyctosaurus.
barren zephyr
Kebab niche
We've been missing it without even knowing it.
paper oriole
Handsome
barren zephyr
The main issue I see with it is size, although who knows it could be the perfect size.
barren zephyr
Hes not *terribly* small, nycto that is
Is that Nycto?
paper oriole
Yeah
barren zephyr
You mean the guy? Yea, he scares me.
paper oriole
And this is the handsome toothbrush, kinda pushing it on size though
barren zephyr
Yeah
Hm, maybe he could be a potential asset.
Big bird to function as mid tier birb is needed
barren zephyr
Big bird to function as mid tier birb is needed
...Quetz...?
I’d imagine among the birds quetzal will be the apex-
barren zephyr
I’d imagine among the birds quetzal will be the apex-
For sure.
This isn’t comparing to the rest of the other animals. Only the birds :0
But something between a ptera and quetzal is required
But why? What would it do?
shrug
Tupandactylus and Pelagornis are the two "small tiers" I think we need, or at least do good.
I liked miragaias idea of an herbi bird
paper oriole
Tupan is only a bit smaller than ptera so he good
They csn gove males tupan crest and females europ crest too for dimorphism
barren zephyr
I liked miragaias idea of an herbi bird
I think that idea stemmed from my idea...
Then I like your idea of an herbi bird :0
barren zephyr
They csn gove males tupan crest and females europ crest too for dimorphism
That would be
Also petition for judo cera
paper oriole
barren zephyr
I need it.
paper oriole
Ive wanted tupan or another similarly sized herbi flyer for so long i hope my dreams arent slammed by the devs adding another carni flyer instead but im ready for disappointment
barren zephyr
Ive wanted tupan or another similarly sized herbi flyer for so long i hope my dr...
I only recently discovered Tupa, but I'm with you 💯
paper oriole
I want the coastal biome to be filled but the devs said itll be a while
Well one did
Pelagornis, nothosaurus, atopodentatus, masiakasaurus, baryonix and plateosaurus on the beaches and mangroves mmmmm but it'll probably not happen
barren zephyr
Give us a shallow sea map- small islands dotting a large map consisting half and half of water and land- along with one large island among the plethora of smaller islands. That or do a kinda V3 thing. But this time split the map in 3 with just 3 large land masses separated by strips of ocean
Helipocornia and mega when?
barren zephyr
Mosa vs mega- match of the ages
paper oriole
Megalodon is busted op lmao
paper oriole
Yeah mega seems like the kind of thing that would spawn to oneshot you if you swim too far at the edge of the map
barren zephyr
Fair enough
No Meg then-
Just helipicornia
And then some aquatic reptiles and cephalopods
And a fish or two
Maybe add duncleo?
paper oriole
Parahelicoprion looks cooler than cretoxy so he better 
barren zephyr
Have the ambush predator that could compromise anything with one bite?
The Flyers I would like to see
Tiny Tier (Probably more of an AI or Ambiance)
-Anurognathus (Vampire bat esk creature.)
-Eudimorphodon/Rhamphorhynchus (Oxpecker like creature)
Small Tier (Playables)
-Dimorphodon (maybe)
-Nyctosaurus (maybe)
-Pelagornis
-Pteranodon
-Tupandactylus
*Pseudo Mid Tier *(Playable)
-Quetzalcoatalus
For any newcomers I had started making this while still on the topic of flyers.
Like dunkleos could just about cut clean through anything they fit into their mouth
Didn’t even have teeth. They bit with a sharper jaw BONE
that’s metal af
I mean ever seen a croc pop a turtle like a water balloon?
It’s not a pretty sight
Achelon when?
Honestly. What were sharks thinking when they made this...? Abomination
wack
Well what were fish thinking then :0
We’re they swimming through acid or something?
chilly slate
i am allowed to suggest new content in #general-feedback right?
also can i add on to other people's ideas
barren zephyr
Also give me seal plesiosaurid. Floopping around on the beaches and darting through the seas
Like did you ever play zoo tycoon 3 back in the day?
barren zephyr
Like did you ever play zoo tycoon 3 back in the day?
I played 2.
The plesios would be able to crawl up out of their water enclosure to feed and rest of the land- while flopping around like seals
I played 2.
@barren zephyr great game-
barren zephyr
> I played 2.
<@456226577798135808> great game-
Meerkats were my enemies.
Meerkats were my enemies.
@barren zephyr lol- rip the little bastards
Kimmerosaurus
Would work for a seal play style- or atleast it looks like it would?
barren zephyr
> Meerkats were my enemies.
<@456226577798135808> lol- rip the little bastards
I’m just tossing seal plesiosaur out and hoping for support here ;-;
barren zephyr
I’m just tossing seal plesiosaur out and hoping for support here ;-;
Maybe like a Orca thing, but I feel seal crosses a line.
paper oriole
I want this CHAD when coastal roster comes
paper oriole
Pachydyptes is king
barren zephyr
I want this CHAD when coastal roster comes
I'd be more scared of that than a Deino!
That’s a buff ass penguin
paper oriole
He'd pair well with a leopard seal mosasaur too
barren zephyr
Feel like it’s gonna try to body slam me-
@fringe pendant I was thinking that there could be an automatic drop button.
fringe pendant
Yeah.
barren zephyr
Probably also give the babies the ability to be dropped/picked up on command, so it can't be abused.
So was just looking around and the plesiosaur plesiosauride is like 6 ft long and can function as the kinda seal type I’m looking for
Very small but-
Probably make it very fast?
More of a passive play style like current ptera?
fringe pendant
Probably also give the babies the ability to be dropped/picked up on command, so...
Yup. People would definitely abuse it. I agree with the button.
barren zephyr
@barren zephyr We already have Deino tho.
I’m talking about for when aquatics start rolling in-
fringe pendant
I didn't know they planned on aquatics. Neat.
barren zephyr
Yup. People would definitely abuse it. I agree with the button.
Seems like a simple solution to not abusing it, but maybe I'm missing something idk.
chilly slate
they should only be able to carry nested deinos
barren zephyr
I didn't know they planned on aquatics. Neat.
I don't think they do... or at least haven't announced it.
I don’t know if it’s confirmed
barren zephyr
they should only be able to carry nested deinos
Yes
fringe pendant
Ah.
barren zephyr
I just heard somewhere that they’d like to do that Kinda stuff
barren zephyr
Nested Dinos are smaller right?
barren zephyr
Also I just remember deino nesting is Gonna be a thing. How are they gonna defend their nests?
If they get bodied by everything on land-
barren zephyr
Also I just remember deino nesting is Gonna be a thing. How are they gonna defen...
Violence
barren zephyr
Valid strat
chilly slate
that would be cool
barren zephyr
I figure much like modern crocodilians deino will have burried nests near the water that they can always watch and lunge out to protect.
fringe pendant
^
chilly slate
utahs should be able to sniff them out like monitor lizards
barren zephyr
But as stands everything on land has a way to simply body an adult deino on land
I mean it's not like a Galli is much of a threat for a mother deino
What’s a deino gonna do if a stego rolls up and decides to destroy a deino nest?
Or later on a rex, or Giga
barren zephyr
utahs should be able to sniff them out like monitor lizards
I think Megalania, at least while juvi should be a nest raider.
fringe pendant
Hmm good point.
barren zephyr
What’s a deino gonna do if a stego rolls up and decides to destroy a deino nest?
We don't even know if a stego will be able to do that.
fringe pendant
The Isle really isn't based on any certain period.
barren zephyr
I think megalania is gonna be the kind of monitor play style. Opportunistic feeders that eat eggs, fish, meat and whatever they want really
barren zephyr
megalanias are coming?
Haven't you seen the concept? If not I'll go get it.
barren zephyr
chilly slate
nice
barren zephyr
While young going for eggs and fish, and then as it gets bigger becoming an ambush predator that simply overpowers smaller prey or bleeds out bigger prey with the Komodo style venom that prevents blood from clotting
Like give it a bite that drains blood extra quickly, while making it last MUUUUCH longer
And much harder to heal off
I see Mega being a giant Komodo Dragon/Nile Monitor/ maybe even some kind of Tree Monitor for the juvis kinda lizard.
fringe pendant
Once bone break is added. Deinos will 100% do bone breaking and almost 0 bleed.
chilly slate
komodo dragons don't really have strong bites, but their saliva is so dirty that it can poison things
fringe pendant
Once bone break is added. Deinos will 100% do bone breaking and almost 0 bleed.
As crocodilians shatter bones upon biting.
barren zephyr
komodo dragons don't really have strong bites, but their saliva is so dirty that it can poison things
@chilly slate Nah they actually have venom glands
chilly slate
oh they do?
barren zephyr
komodo dragons don't really have strong bites, but their saliva is so dirty that...
Pretty sure they have venom in that bite as well, but it is debated.
And their venom prevents blood from clotting
chilly slate
nevermind then
barren zephyr
So they just bleed things like water Buffalo out without much issue
barren zephyr
So they just bleed things like water Buffalo out without much issue
I mean, there's a pissed buffalo. But yea.
chilly slate
do water buffalo live in indonesia
barren zephyr
But a super bleeding effect from megalania would be fun. Like biting the ankle of a trike and just keep pestering it until it dies
chilly slate
or komodo
barren zephyr
I just tossed out the first one I saw- I didn’t get any audio for me
wooden fulcrum
barren zephyr
I don't think players will be as forgiving as that buffalo...
Also my link got blasted
Rip
barren zephyr
But a super bleeding effect from megalania would be fun. Like biting the ankle o...
Feel like Trice is a bit of a stretch. In my opinion Maia would be about as big as prey goes.
barren zephyr
Also my link got blasted
How does that happen?
chilly slate
it should still deal a lot of damage to big dinos though
barren zephyr
I don't think players will be as forgiving as that buffalo...
@barren zephyr and no- but the player behind the megalania won’t be nearly as sluggish or straight forward
barren zephyr
> I don't think players will be as forgiving as that buffalo...
<@45622657779813...
Run in, bite the leg of something like a para- and book it. Get to cover and loose em. Then simply trail them around and attack when needed. If they make it as it should be. Para shouldn’t recover health from the poison and bleed constantly from the bite
barren zephyr
But it wouldn’t be like it’s pouring blood- just a steady loss that would need lots of wallowing to keep from death
barren zephyr
Run in, bite the leg of something like a para- and book it. Get to cover and loo...
I feel Mega should burrow and wait near said burrow (preferably with multiple entrances) for larger creatures then go in bite a heel, and just bolt.
chilly slate
i am a little new to the isle, can you smell blood on the ground?
barren zephyr
Burrow?
Yea
Large monitors like komodo and the Nile only really dig to nest
I don’t think megalania would really be burrowing-
barren zephyr
Large monitors like komodo and the Nile only really dig to nest
I mean yes, but they do dig or at least find areas to hide like burrows. Possibly something like an "abandoned" proto burrow.
Small burrows? Huh
How bout that
chilly slate
yikes
barren zephyr
I just want to see mega play the long distance tracker and venemous terror to herbis and slower carnis
chilly slate
seems cramped
barren zephyr
I just want to see mega play the long distance tracker and venemous terror to he...
Once it gets a good meal that hunger bar goes slow-mo.
Like if a few Megas find a line allo and all slowly close in, before getting in like 2 to 3 bites. I’d want to see the megas be able to track that much faster animal across the damn map-
Smelling blood through the patched up wallowed would and muddy footprints
Ight love talking lizards and all, but Ima head out now.
No one is safe from the mega-
And gotcha
I have a paper ive been procrastinating on so I gtg too
Also my vid got blasted for animals in distress, which is very fair. Sorry super!
icy lion
all good, i know you didnt post it for shock value or anything, we just try to stay away from that kind of content
zealous violet
They seriously need to change the grouping system back to something like the legacy version. Because your constantly 2 calling people, losing their names, getting too far from them, losing them again, accidentally losing them when your just 2 calling to be friendly- its bothersome. If people dont want it, then simply dont group. But its still a video game and people will want to play it with their friends.
paper oriole
if they could just bring back global chat and legacy grouping as separate toggleable server options that'd be cool
i get there's some issues with both those things but there's also issues with what we have now, let admins pick their poison
zealous violet
if they could just bring back global chat and legacy grouping as separate toggle...
I agree 100% I much more prefer the server optional option in regards to global chat and grouping. if someone doesnt want global chat, they can simply join a different server. Giving players more options is a good way on keeping them around, people tend to like variety and the freedom to choose.
Of course, ive been saying this for a little while but the devs have been wanting to eventually allow for mods to be within the game and if global chat is still an issue, im sure someone will make a mod for it.
Just seems so lonely and empty without it haha
glad dirge
they can add the grouping system from legacy but keep the usernames disappear after a certain range thing
that way you can be able to identify players but you dont have the ability to see your teammates across the map
and keep local chat so you cant chat from across the map
zealous violet
I seriously cannot bloody handle people right now. Ive been trying to grow a deino for over a week but I keep getting killed, mostly by myself and silly choices, but sometimes by assholes. like a group of stego/carnos slaughtering everyone and then full grown deinos coming in and killing everyone in the nursery? what friggen gives?
ive never had this much trouble growing a bloody dino, not even when they are like 6-8 hours of growth time. This is ridiculous.
at least this time I could actually try and tell them to stop cuz they were same species.
zealous violet
they can add the grouping system from legacy but keep the usernames disappear af...
Oh gosh, I really hate that haha. When the user names vanish I mean. Theres no reason they should do that. I can only see that being useful for humans and their distance range communication devices.
Oh wait, I see better what your saying. Yeah that could work out pretty well. Best of both worlds.
glad dirge
Oh gosh, I really hate that haha. When the user names vanish I mean. Theres no r...
I... have to agree with you on that lol, I hate the vanishing of names but Id rather have the distance vanishing with the ability to add your friends in the pack rather then this 2 calling crap we have now
zealous violet
oh for sure! its annoying as hell to have your calls linked to an actual mechanic. I once had a ptera group and we spent like 20 minutes before giving up just 2 calling each other. Looked like our names were having a rave dance party XD Jumping all over the place.
glad dirge
Oh man! Yeah this group mechanic totally demolishes any use of the 2 call
zealous violet
Agreed! Its so stupid. They really need to be deperated again. I have no idea what the devs were even thinking, implementing this
ALSO, I dunno if this is a big or not, but I keep freezing and having to leave the game completely after I die.
also, this cooldown thing is BS. I get it, its a good idea, I understand why they did it but sometimes the frusteration eats at me
paper oriole
4 pteras picking up a carno? bro one ptera probably couldnt pick up a hypsi lmao
not with their beak, and especially not with those useless ass feet of theirs
sweet rapids
4 pteras picking up a carno? bro one ptera probably couldnt pick up a hypsi lmao
lol sry
carmine path
Only a few more days till stress test is over ladies and gents, just a suggestion don't complain about more servers that should be added
barren zephyr
To be honest
Maybe a system where if you invited someone, old legacy system, and they were too far away you'd get a message saying the player was too far to invite.
Could kind of work for a second grouping option that server owners could choose instead of the 2 call invite
Obviously an option
zealous violet
I kind alike that
barren zephyr
It would balance that out a little
zealous violet
yeah the two calling to invite to a group is stupid. 2 calling = friendly, nothing more. wanting to group is something else. they shouldnt be connected
gaunt mica
Mix packs is a big issue
sudden kelp
@swift dew So to add to your suggestion first of all sucho was a fisher so if you say that it prefers teno and not fish you are making it a land animal and not a semiaquatic. Also spino is not a cannibal and it would also never eat its own family, only challenge them for fishing spots. And spino fed upon 8m sawfish that could be implemented as AI or as playables to balance deino out. Also no carnivore prefers anky. Its the only herbivore that is not preferred by a carnivore making it high risk low reward hunting that would unbalance the roster. Otherwise I like your suggestion very much.
paper oriole
Also sucho shouldnt be running fast enough to be regularly killing tenos
Spino should have cannibalism removed from his diet and that should instead go to rex
Bary on the other hand might like tenontos considering baryonix hunted an iguanadontid in its time im pretty sure, so maybe remove minmi and replace it with tenonto
pulsar oasis
Deinos should have a bite and drag feature in open water. With the current bite force the deino has (less than a human mind you) it should be able to bite and pull prey under the water mid river. If they aren't going to buff the bite it sure as heck could pull an adult carno under in a river crossing.
paper oriole
I mean yeah they should but why put that in here and balance feedback
Imo deino should have a swimming grab and terrestrials should have their weight values lowered while swimming, this way deino can be the water apex he was supposed to be and also not be water rex blowing people up with 20000 bite force
pulsar oasis
I put it here since uts discussion. Just want other people's takes on the idea.
Yeah that's my point, in the water the deino should be unchallenged by a land predator crossing open water.
past dune
Question for the people that reacted " ⏲️ " does it mean we'll eventually have to wait to have Evrima to get Fossorial and Subfossorial creatures?
icy lion
it means that theyre confirmed for the game, yup
past dune
OMG
fossorial are my favorite kind of dinos, they can provide a stable safe house, just try to get it hidden well enough so the carnis dont come waiting
carmine path
@covert epoch this is not the channel to discuss that refer your self to #401464048610312195 if you want help on finding Isle Servers on Legacy or Evrima
covert epoch
how is it not feedback ?
carmine path
How is it feedback?
covert epoch
the fact that i want larger group sizes wasnt clear ?
i think thats pretty good feed back for players who play in large groups
carmine path
Not at all seemed like you were complaining and wanted to find a server with larger group sizes
covert epoch
no no servers have large group sizes because they are full of weak cowards who cant go outside and make friends to play with
and get mad when more than one dino attacks them
carmine path
What dino are you referring to and if so is it a legacy or evrima issue
covert epoch
im on the test branch because i want to play a gang of crocs with my friends
but we cant because you can only have 2 people in a group lmao
carmine path
Ima be honest the biggest size a deino should ever have is 3-4 nothing above that
covert epoch
so how do i then play with my group of friends on anyserver ?
urban flax
Play something else than deino
carmine path
Pick another dino or you make sure not to kill your friends
covert epoch
i dont understand how you think thats a fair and inclusive game strategy
urban flax
You can't play big dinos AND make large packs for balance reasons.
covert epoch
what if we all want to play trex
urban flax
What if I want to be immortal ? Should I be allowed to be so ?
covert epoch
you should be able to play any dino you want with your group of friends
carmine path
we want to have fun and play the bigger dinos
Play utah, even if you like bigger dinos, Utah is exceptionally fun to play and is top of the tier list in terms of carnivores rn as it can face anything with its pouncd
pulsar oasis
Crocs are packs unlike traditional animals, more communal and opportunistic so I think there really isn't a Pack size that would work other then doing so for game play sake.
covert epoch
utah are boring as
zealous violet
Im so fucking sick of getting killed because the damn deino doesnt know how to BREATH when it breaks the surface. People sit on either side of a river, cage you in and take turns swimming and biting and then your dying of air because for whatever reason they thought it would be a grand ol idea for you to I dunno, learn how to breath??? No. Take the damn bubbles and have them be regained the moment you hit the surface of the water.
carmine path
utah are boring as
Lies
urban flax
you should be able to play any dino you want with your group of friends
You can
But don't expect the game to hold your hand with it
covert epoch
its not the game
in legacy you can have 10 people in a group you just have to be shit dinos
carmine path
This isn’t legacy
Get that through your skull rn cause this is nothing like legacy and never will
covert epoch
yeah so why in the test branch can i only have 2 in a group lmao ?
urban flax
BALANCE
urban flax
Then you shouldn't play pvp games
pulsar oasis
Well you can there's no rule servers you can play on
carmine path
i play wow that has no balance
Completely different type of game
covert epoch
its a pvp game is it not ?
carmine path
its a pvp game is it not ?
Not at all more RPG
carmine path
i play apex that isnt very balanced
Apex is a battle royale
carmine path
you said dont play pvp games
No one said that
urban flax
I said it
carmine path
Then you shouldn't play pvp games
Reread this
pulsar oasis
Dugite you sound like a carno player who just KOS in servers 🤣
urban flax
And the fact you can play unbalanced games doesn't mean every other game has to be unbalanced
carmine path
im sorry ?
Reread the message he didn’t say “You don’t play pvp games”
carmine path
Honestly if im being honest i think you are just bad at the game and have to play big dinos
covert epoch
im not bad at it haha
i just want to be able to play with all my mates without getting kicked and banned from servers
carmine path
And you want your friends to join you so your invincible
urban flax
i just want to be able to play with all my mates without getting kicked and bann...
That's not how the game is intended to be played
pulsar oasis
Well good or bad, deinos are balanced to 2 of them, agree or not its how it is currently
carmine path
Follow the rules or don’t play simple, go play on a no rules server were limits aren’t a problem
carmine path
Well good or bad, deinos are balanced to 2 of them, agree or not its how it is c...
I think 3 is better since it is pseudo apex imo
covert epoch
there are none because people are cowards and cant hack getting romped
pulsar oasis
I think 2 adults and 3 juvis is fine personally but no way to enforce that with server setting
carmine path
Im sorry i just absolutely cannot take you serious with that pfp
carmine path
Many things.
urban flax
anyway ive had my fun
You had your fun ? So you were just trolling from the beginning ?
covert epoch
no i was genuinely having a whinge
it wont change though because people like you exist
carmine path
Calls me an incel...
urban flax
People like me, huh ?
covert epoch
yeah people who dont have a large group to play and whinge when people do so it makes it harder for them to group up and have fun
pulsar oasis
It's a discussion thread not a therapy where did the isle hurt you thread.
covert epoch
ive never been hurt by the isle brah
its a cool game
its just shit that i cant be in a bigger group of large dinos
all im trying to say
pulsar oasis
Okay so then realize things take time to process and change
carmine path
yeah people who dont have a large group to play and whinge when people do so it ...
Your whining that the game is balanced because you can’t play with 10 rex friends cause you think that is “balanced”
pulsar oasis
Comparing you and your boys can run together as a deino isn't going to change that right now.
carmine path
its not about balance mate
100% about balance
covert epoch
being in the same group so we can have and play together its why we bought the game
pulsar oasis
There's nothing stopping you in QA branch from super packing right now. So go do it while you can and play.
urban flax
Well you have to make a choice
Either you play together, either you play the big dinos
carmine path
Lemme put it like this, no one cares about you and your “mates” we care about balance and realism and the fun we can have within those bounds
covert epoch
there is you can only have 2 people i na group as deino
pulsar oasis
So
covert epoch
how are we meant to group ?
pulsar oasis
Roll around together
carmine path
So protest for 3-4 not 1000
covert epoch
when we cant distinguish our selfs visually
pulsar oasis
That's a you problem
carmine path
That’s punishment for not following original group sizes
covert epoch
why because they are too lazy to add deino customising ?
pulsar oasis
If u cant stay as a group then you larger issues
odd sedge
You don't have to be in a group to write in the local chat
urban flax
why because they are too lazy to add deino customising ?
I would explain to you why there is no customization yet but that would probably be a waste of time
craggy charm
@night anchor luckily i believe once diets are added some dinosaurs wont like eating their own kind so dont worry
carmine path
why because they are too lazy to add deino customising ?
What customizing skin update is coming stop complaining about the future
pulsar oasis
Your making rocket science out of staying together packed up or not.. ffs
covert epoch
yeah so example
if we are packed up
and another deino comes in and start chomping one of us
carmine path
You’re problem
pulsar oasis
That's why we have DC
covert epoch
you are problem ?
carmine path
Already know where this is going
odd sedge
Then it's your problem
covert epoch
look all of you ganging up on me
pulsar oasis
So u can VC with ur boys
covert epoch
its very mean
carmine path
I will be honest anyone think deino should get at least 3 group members?
odd sedge
look all of you ganging up on me
Almost like there is a reason, huh mate
pulsar oasis
I think 2 adults and 3 juvis is fine for deino personally
covert epoch
what because i want bigger group sizes mate ?
a reason for 6 blokes to jump all over me lmao
urban flax
I will be honest anyone think deino should get at least 3 group members?
Honestly I don't care they already hang out with 6+ people in the same place
covert epoch
your laughable
odd sedge
your laughable
What about my laughable?
carmine path
I think 2 adults and 3 juvis is fine for deino personally
Harder to implement when it is juvi cause if having to kick them automatically after sub stage
carmine path
Honestly I don't care they already hang out with 6+ people in the same place
Yeah but you gotta remember that is just croc gangs not groups themselves
pulsar oasis
No one's jumping all over you just trying to understand your argument over and over because the 4 brains cells you have can't understand the game
urban flax
Yeah but you gotta remember that is just croc gangs not groups themselves
Then 2 is fine
covert epoch
i understand the game just fine
sand oar
Calm down guys, no need to insult each other.
covert epoch
i just think that if i want to play 7 rexes with my mates i should be able to
urban flax
i just think that if i want to play 7 rexes with my mates i should be able to
Well in fact, not really
covert epoch
i bought the game
covert epoch
so your telling me i have to play the game how you want me to play it because you cant get a group together to stop my group ?
pulsar oasis
🤣🤣🤣🤣
carmine path
Then 2 is fine
Im still thinking 3 cause when real apexes come out there group is gonna be 2, feels more balanced if deino has a one up advantage at least for groups
urban flax
i bought the game
So WoW should allow you to play as Arthas himself right when you hop into the game too ?
pulsar oasis
odd sedge
i just think that if i want to play 7 rexes with my mates i should be able to
Hell nah that is so unbalanced.
I get you want to play the game but guess what, so do other people
zealous violet
goodness, what is going on in here
urban flax
Im still thinking 3 cause when real apexes come out there group is gonna be 2, f...
That's more a reason of gameplay imo, dino really is a solitary animal (well it should be) as for rexes, I can imagine a group limit of 3 for them to have 2 parents and a baby
covert epoch
Hell nah that is so unbalanced.
I get you want to play the game but guess what, ...
why dont you find some more friends to play with and make your own large group of rexes
zealous violet
Arnt groups going to eventually be server optional anyways?
pulsar oasis
Dugite feels his need to voice is concern for he and his bros because they can't super pack as deinos..... oh well
carmine path
That's more a reason of gameplay imo, dino really is a solitary animal (well it ...
Personally im just hoping it gets knocked up to 3 cause it just seems like the perfect # for deino groups
urban flax
Maybe
odd sedge
why dont you find some more friends to play with and make your own large group o...
It's not about that, mate.
Have you any clue how unfun the game would be if you have a truck load of rexes grouping?
For others that is
carmine path
It's not about that, mate.
Have you any clue how unfun the game would be if you ...
Gotta remember he doesn’t care about balance haha
covert epoch
well its not because if there is another group of rexes that big and larger dinos it would be fun ya cuck
edgy harbor
Yo
carmine path
See 😂
carmine path
I'm always watching
Is the krow 😱
odd sedge
well its not because if there is another group of rexes that big and larger dino...
Wow, how heroic of you to insult me
trail tide
pulsar oasis
Ha if you think this is uncivil .. hold my beer
edgy harbor
Wow, how heroic of you to insult me
What did I just say.
trail tide
We are dropping the insults and returning to a civil discussion on the topic.
edgy harbor
Take it to dms.
carmine path
Rut row the admins are watching 🧐
covert epoch
civil im getting ganged up on lmao
zealous violet
Oh yeah? whatchu gonna do, Krow? >:D just kidding, haha im not a part of all this mess.
covert epoch
real civil to group up and hate on me because i think it should be different
urban flax
That's sad how most conversations in here ends this way...
zealous violet
<:judgement:714622782415306794>
❤️
edgy harbor
real civil to group up and hate on me because i think it should be different
Move on
pulsar oasis
Dugite you're just complaining without a solution.
covert epoch
I SAID THE SOLUTION
edgy harbor
Aight like I've given 4 warnings
covert epoch
allow bigger groups
carmine path
Oh *yeah?* whatchu gonna do, Krow? >:D just kidding, haha im not a part of all t...
We can take the staff (We’ll die in 3.5sec if we say somethinf bad)
trail tide
aaannndddd
night anchor
<@!263355568301801472> luckily i believe once diets are added some dinosaurs won...
In 7 years
edgy harbor
eps you muted me
urban flax
allow bigger groups
You can just accept the fact that most people don't agree with this, and they gave you reasons for it
edgy harbor
I cri
carmine path
allow bigger groups
I think it is balanced as is any bigger than 2 for apexes is unbalanced
zealous violet
I recommend adding that servers have the freedom to create their own group limits in General-Feedback and be done with it. :3 Hopefully thatll help it become a thing in the future.
odd sedge
allow bigger groups
And that's fine. Just not 7 rexes because it's neither realistic nor balanced
craggy charm
In 7 years
nahhh it wont take as long as this recent update did, this recent one was very unique and thats why it had so many problems
carmine path
Krow with the big iron on his hip ready to mute people 😎
trail tide
eps you muted me
You muted yourself. Lol.
night anchor
nahhh it wont take as long as this recent update did, this recent one was very u...
Tbf, every update is unique
kindred flare
if they were to give admins freedom to set group limits, it should be limited. for example a rex can mave minimum 2 maximum 3 for balance and realistic purposes, whereas something like dryo can have minimum 2 maximum 15 or something like that
craggy charm
Tbf, every update is unique
by unique i mean the reason why update 3 took so long was bc it introduced very new animals and mechanics never even hinted at in game before. The diet system wont be nearly as bad since its legit just a fancier version of hunger combined with the perk system which will be added before diets i believe
urban flax
if they were to give admins freedom to set group limits, it should be limited. f...
If gonna give admins the option to customize something, might as well do it all the way and don't make limits
But officials should remain as they are
kindred flare
If gonna give admins the option to customize something, might as well do it all ...
unfortunately officials dont have a much of a playerbase.
carmine path
Once Update 3 is out the servers will rise however i wonder if they will drop again
kindred flare
They do on evrima
thats only cause those servers have the least amount of cuck players online as admins dont give them grows all the time
kindred flare
Once Update 3 is out the servers will rise however i wonder if they will drop ag...
likely, some people just really think legacy is better still.
carmine path
likely, some people just really think legacy is better still.
I personally love evrima cause the special attacks just make it for me
zealous violet
if they were to give admins freedom to set group limits, it should be limited. f...
Right, thats exactly it. Allow each individual server to create their own group limitations. Some servers may be no-rules and allow for some crazy grouping. Others will be more civilized and create groups based off of what they think is fair, realistic and or balances.
kindred flare
I personally love evrima cause the special attacks just make it for me
me too, the visuals, faster pace, and more skilled/ engaging combat is a huge win for me. but apparently people liked assriding...
carmine path
Hard to believe people still like legacy, can’t complain tho it was the broken foundation that started The Isle and evrima is the new foundation that The Isle will build on
kindred flare
evrima already feels like a more complete game, sure some of the bugs are a little funky in the beta, but thats to be expected.
carmine path
My Dilo/Allo Apex killing days is over 😭
zealous violet
Hard to believe people still like legacy, can’t complain tho it was the broken f...
Its cuz of the social aspect. People still enjoy legacy because its familiar to them and they have friends on there.
kindred flare
Apex allo oh god, if you saw more than 2 allos your best bet was to run no w=matter what you where
zealous violet
Apex allo oh god, if you saw more than 2 allos your best bet was to run no w=mat...
Not true, sucho easily bests allo.
kindred flare
i have killed literally 80% of the suchos ive come across as an allo
the turn is so shit that if you get behind them they are screwed
zealous violet
i have killed literally 80% of the suchos ive come across as an allo
Same here! except the other way around. On the server I played on, I was a sucho for so long, people who played allos stopped coming to the lake I was at.
night anchor
by unique i mean the reason why update 3 took so long was bc it introduced very ...
Never hinted at in the game before, so I guess quetz can go fuk itself
kindred flare
the only time they escape is do wht all sucho players do and just sit i the water 3 caling but dont come out
carmine path
I killed Allos as Dilo 😎
zealous violet
Youve been playing some crummy sucho players then, friend.
craggy charm
Never hinted at in the game before, so I guess quetz can go fuk itself
quetz's flying mechanics were exrtremely barebones compared to the current ones, not to mention all the other mechanics such as lunging, air collision, air braking, water skimming, etc. etc.
this update added a lot of little things with the two creatures that quetz or sucho being the closest thing to deino never had before
and bc of that it introduced a ton of bugs, which took up a ton of time to fix before beta branch was released (which was released to fix MORE bugs)
night anchor
Tbf i was referring to the prospect of flight being added and not the extent
pulsar oasis
Please don't change the Tera crashing sounds ever... they are the best and I die laughing often
craggy charm
the extent of it is the my point tho, its the reason this one update took so long thats all
im just saying dw about the next updates taking as long as this one did, cuz they shouldnt as far as i can tell
devs said so as well
craggy charm
maybe? maybe like... a month or 2 per new dino, and like 3 months for smth like diets? idk.. we'll have to see how the new roadmap looks bc theyre adjusting it
pulsar oasis
Well next update is UI which shouldn't be to difficult
craggy charm
Well next update is UI which shouldn't be to difficult
on the roadmap its UI pachy and perks all together, but i think thatll change cuz theres gonna be a new roadmap
night anchor
Yea i wonder how that will look
pulsar oasis
I'm pumped for new admin tools, it will make servers much smoother I hope
urban flax
on the roadmap its UI pachy and perks all together, but i think thatll change cu...
Wasn't the new roadmap planned to be revealed after update 4 ?
urban flax
Oh ok
royal stump
will the spino be playable in evrima, wouldl love to cuz with the rework it looks awesome
lapis tree
Nah
royal stump
why not
lapis tree
Spino would take a lot of time to make
lapis tree
Yeah
royal stump
cant wait to play it.
lapis tree
Yeah
royal stump
just vibin with some deinos in swamps
lapis tree
K
royal stump
i mean it would be fun if spinos and deinos could squad up
frank bone
an online admin i wanna ask them how i can put commands my server private like that dalaowang server private from china they have website and private commands free for players like : /g =5m time cooldown delay and more like that /info /kill all have access to that someone can respond to me if know ?
lapis tree
True
urban flax
When the time comes spino will probably eat deinos rather than teaming up with them
royal stump
true
but they could make that spinos is slow on land
and a bit slower than deinos in water
so they can get away
royal stump
yeah
but like slower than other stuff so they can get away
but when they add the magy they should add spino
sinmce magy kinda big
urban flax
No
lapis tree
No
royal stump
isnt it=
urban flax
Magy is 2 meters
lapis tree
Magy is a small sauropod
lapis tree
It lived on an island with little resources so it adapted to be small
royal stump
ok
lapis tree
Maybe when they add Rex or are another large theropod
royal stump
yeah
keen vapor
@spiral ravine Happened to me too. Its a bug where dmg wont register onto the stego
spiral ravine
gotcha, and the devs are aware of it i assume?
verbal vine
Why EU6 if offline now?
tiny geyser
Piggy I like the ideas, just I feel carno should like Teno more than say something like Dryo or galli. Kind of like a more difficult meal but much better quality as the matchup between the two is about 50/50. That might just be me though...
glad dirge
I dint think there should really be a dislikes food. Unless it's a completely different substance like fish or something. Just have its preferred food give more benefits
barren zephyr
Yeah I feel you should be able to hunt whatever you want without having something against hunting it so if you ate something you would still get the same amount of food but Dino’s could have certain creatures that could possibly give them more food than normal for eating preferred creatures
slim venture
Really wish some of the faster dinos were just slower across the board. I'm honestly surprised utah raptors aren't taking flight when they come over hills from how fast they're going, they've got some glue feet or something to keep them on the ground.
barren zephyr
Really wish some of the faster dinos were just slower across the board. I'm hone...
Well here is the thing, Utah and carno are the two fastest Dino’s in the game, it’s just a coincidence that they have the two fastest Dino’s in rn
pale prairie
utah's only 50 km/h right?
barren zephyr
Once they add stuff like cerato, allo, and other stuff you won’t just have springting carnos and Utah’s
pale prairie
animals alive today run much faster than that lmao
yet they're not taking off and flying.
they're actually much lighter too.
slim venture
Well the bushes and trees are small in comparison so it seems like they're absolutely zooming
It's very disorienting moving that fast.
barren zephyr
I mean dinosaurs are BIG compared to modern day stuff
pale prairie
fair enough.
but in reality they're not that fast,
barren zephyr
You realize Utah is basically as tall as a human, that should give you perspective
pale prairie
i honestly can't remember evrima utahs speed off by heart, but i'm pretty sure it's around 50-60 km/h
lions can be faster than that.
slim venture
Yeah but lions live in the african savannah not in the jungle
pale prairie
point being?
Utahraptors spend a lot of their time in the plains anyway, not to mention this is a videogame.
just pointing out that animals alive today in the real world can run much faster than our utahraptor.
slim venture
Im just saying either land 2 small or raptor 2 fast make my brain not worky
barren zephyr
That’s a you problem
slim venture
Well goin 60 over a hill is going to send you flying.
pale prairie
and it does over certain hills.
slim venture
Maybe it's just the lack of intertia they just seem more like tiny lizards in a model forest than actual dinosaurs
urban flax
@analog mountain What's the difference between the drawing you showed and current evrima pachy ?
analog mountain
<@!815994534286721035> What's the difference between the drawing you showed and ...
see, body, skull, hands
urban flax
You've taken the worst possible picture of evrima pachy
The perspective is fucked up on this one
carmine path
Hard to see back of the head
urban flax
When comparing the drawing with what's just been posted in isle phase two, I barely see a difference
carmine path
I wanna see the one thing ima be staring at the entire game but you shut that off
Feedback discussion been pretty quiet lately
analog mountain
Feedback discussion been pretty quiet lately
yep
urban flax
Feedback discussion been pretty quiet lately
Just post some feedback about deinosuchus biteforce and we're good to go for a few hours
carmine path
It works cause of the deino pfp
analog mountain
unreal moat
Bro wtf is that pachy
urban flax
Looks a bit monsterified
analog mountain
elder
urban flax
ooh
unreal moat
Pachy on roids
urban flax
Haha you did it
swift dew
<@594297562601750548> So to add to your suggestion first of all sucho was a fish...
i didnt want to give very many things fish as their favorite food because it would be too easy to catch, I only gave elite fish to austro because I was thinking they would be hard enough to catch for the duck that it wouldn't give them too many favorite food buffs. I also gave spino itself because I thought it might be a good way to not have 20 spinos in the same swamp like we have now but with deinos.
swift dew
i didnt want to give very many things fish as their favorite food because it wo...
also my reasoning behind teno being sucho food was becaus dondi said on stream that teno would have its favorite food in the middle of swamps, so it would probably come across sucho often.
strange wave
tenonto also then got its swimming nerfed to high hell
urban flax
@carmine path You've got an opponent in general feedback
strange wave
@analog mountain you do know that pachy, carno, galli, dilo, rex, etc, arent getting new models? only the animals that really need it or have really old models, like stego and spino
jolly void
Utah... wrecking deino on land.... that's bad.
devout sun
@barren zephyr why the hell should utah be able to 1v1 a Deino on land
It weighs less than an 8th as much as it does
devout sun
Realistically it shouldn't even be able to injure it
barren zephyr
It's a water crocodile lol a fricking raptor should fuck it up
jolly void
It's a water crocodile lol a fricking raptor should fuck it up
First of all, deino's tough skin, realistically, would not let the raptor injure it
devout sun
yeah..
jolly void
Utah would normally get 1 shot.
barren zephyr
It's a game not real life and mechanically the crocs are busted ass OP lol
devout sun
actually I thank you shin, fr your suggestion was the first laugh I had to today and I appreciate it
barren zephyr
Deino players are deluded
jolly void
A lone utahraptor can not and will never defeat a deino
barren zephyr
Most broken Dino in the game right now but yall want buffs
jolly void
Most broken Dino in the game right now but yall want buffs
Buffs? When did I say buff deino?
You just want stupid nerfs.
devout sun
your utah shouldn't be able to 1v1 anything that isn't smaller than you
this isn't legacy
barren zephyr
I've killed loads of Deino as Utah takes ages though
jolly void
I've killed loads of Deino as Utah takes ages though
Then why are you fucking complaining?
devout sun
It's more balanced than if this thing grew for 6 hours and you killed it with a 2 hour growth 1v1
at least you have the option to NOT FIGHT IT
jolly void
BECAUSE IT'S A 500KG ANIMAL
barren zephyr
They come onto land and hang out in the plains like they're Rex? Utah had massive advantage there
jolly void
My god.
devout sun
you weight literally 1/16th of how much it does
barren zephyr
If they don't play near River it's the deino players fault
devout sun
then maybe a group of carnos could kill it
compact hare
Oh really imbalanced running from a predator, no animal should do that 
jolly void
They come onto land and hang out in the plains like they're Rex? Utah had massiv...
Carnos can kill deino on land, stegos can kill deino on land. What are you thinking.
devout sun
barren zephyr
Utah should be able to kill Rex lol
cyan flame
Even so, a solo utah is way more dangeorus than it should be as of right now. So for that matter is a solo carno. But that's balance for now. Besides, a deino that goes too far inland is pretty screwed, as it should be.
pale bloom
Utah should be able to kill Rex lol
No
jolly void
Utah should be able to kill Rex lol
Ok legacy utah main.
pale bloom
Just no
devout sun
Utah should be able to kill Rex lol
Look, how is this good balancing!?
what is fun about that
urban flax
I think they're just trolling
pale bloom
Legacy Utah main indeed
barren zephyr
Not even trolling I'm dead serious
devout sun
yeah tbh this isn't a discussion worth having
jolly void
I think they're just trolling
If they're trolling, then that suggestion should be removed.
compact hare
this is funny ngl
devout sun
get the allo popcorn xD
cyan flame
Utah should be able to kill Rex lol
Sure, if the rex is afk/or just doesn't do anything in return. But otherwise, no it should take a fair few, at the very least two thirds of a pack, same as it should take for stego. I would say 8 utahs to have a fair chance vs rex and stuff, 6 for stego and the other "weaker" ones possibly. But that's about it.
cyan flame
I think they're just trolling
Ah, that might be true. But you never do know.. :p
devout sun
@barren zephyr haven't you noticed how much they are pushing solo utahs to find some friends? The reason you bite so slow in evrima is to push you to run in and out with friends to do damage quickly, not ride something to death like legacy. Legacy was a mess, utah could 1v1 anything in the game and it sucked. The only thing that was balanced was carno, since it had the option to run away.
Your supposed to be a pack
not solo
solo utah should be useless at hunting anything bigger than itself
a pack however
that's a force to be reckoned with, even by an 8 ton 40 food prehistoric murder log
barren zephyr
Sure, if the rex is afk/or just doesn't do anything in return. But otherwise, no...
There's functionally (in game mechanics) no difference other than time to kill based on how many Utah there are, they get 1hit, so either you get hit and die or you eventually kill the enemy
Solo Utah is viable always and that's fine
devout sun
your solo "skilled" utah killing everything is not balanced at all
barren zephyr
Shin, there will be larger carnivores in the future that will keep Deinosuchus in check
devout sun
and I think anyone who cares about the balance of the game is pushing for you to loose to bigger things solo consistently, your only option should be to run away.
cyan flame
@barren zephyr Viable does not equate to being able to kill something else. And sure, if the rex or stego just doesn't play, but if they give it even half an effort, a solo utah should just not stand a chance.
devout sun
Shin, there will be larger carnivores in the future that will keep Deinosuchus i...
If a deino is trying to chase a carno in a field right now, it's not in danger, but if a giga shows up it's totally screwed. There's it's punishment
@barren zephyr your utah is not it's reckoning
and should never be
barren zephyr
Besides the crocs have shit stamina
devout sun
Everyone seems to ignore that actually ^^^
"oh no if you buff damage it will kill stego on land!!!!
no it wont
stego just runs away for 10 seconds and boom
then it turns around and deletes the mega slow bullet sponge behind it
barren zephyr
Besides the crocs have shit stamina
they cannot in any way get the fuck from a rex away unless they are close to water.
And they can be killed by a pair or mob of albertos, too
I mean I'll agree that the issue right now is mainly that only 2 things can kill Deino and that's #1 Stego #2 Deino goes 5 million miles from water and gets gradually killed by Utah/Carno - so bigger Carnivores might solve the problem
A bit gory, but it gets the point across
devout sun
Deinosuchus isn't useless on land
it's already weak to group attacks, the alt bite sucks if your surrounded
barren zephyr
Cry about it, though it will eventually be balanced with a more complete food chain.
devout sun
and when things big enough to give it a good hurtin come along in groups
it's totally screwed
barren zephyr
They should be not as strong as a group of land Carnivores on land
Being able to go underwater is such a huge advantage
devout sun
no carnivore in the game without a full pack should be going near a Deinosuchus
jolly void
I mean I'll agree that the issue right now is mainly that only 2 things can kill...
Exactly, deino has to worry about other deinos underwater, and sometimes even carnos if they're skilled and in a pack.
devout sun
carnos are meant to hunt low tiers, mid tiers with a full group
they still shouldn't be hunting Deinos
utah pack should be hunting anything though
that's a threat to Deinos
barren zephyr
Exactly, deino has to worry about other deinos underwater, and sometimes even ca...
Not right now tho but I agree that later on in the updates it'll feel more balanced as they'll have bigger predators
steady lintel
carnos can hunt anything they want currently including stegos
barren zephyr
Just saying right now they feel basically invincible
devout sun
Yeah, carnos aren't what they are supposed to be
I think when diets come along if they limit it pretty hard to small things it will do just fine
jolly void
Just saying right now they feel basically invincible
I've seen carnos kill deinos, i've seen stegos kill deinos, i've seen utahs kill deinos, not invincible
pale bloom
Carnos do that basically because there isn't bigger carnis yet
barren zephyr
I've seen carnos kill deinos, i've seen stegos kill deinos, i've seen utahs kill...
Just bad Deino players
Just go to water lol
Gg
devout sun
just because it's "supposed" to be in water doesn't mean it just gets instant death on land
jolly void
Just bad Deino players
Yes, what's your point?