#general-feedback-discussion
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My point is I've already explored the map and the rift barrier is constricting me and its making me sad that I cannot cross and explore more.
Well that sucks because the rest of the map is unfinished and there's not enough players to populate the rest of the map
and our point is that expanding the barriers would make issues be much more noticeable and worse than if you didn't quadruple the space in the map
There aren't enough players to populate the singular part of map that is left for us to explore anyways as is for current time being, your point?
stop ignoring our points
There is no life on the isle, and its sad.
I disagree, even if you were to make it even smaller, I would still be ptera and remain bored to the constraints of the rift barrier blocking me from seeing beyond.
sucks to suck doesn't it
Yeah, the game in it's current state does. Maybe it's time I do my review on the isle, it's mind-numbingly boring in my perspective.
Eh, I'll wait till it's within its finished product.
the deino makes the game unplayable..it's so cancerous, impossible to evolve in the game now
elaborate
@fast stratus you are supposed to slow your speed before landing. Hold Z to do so or you will crash and die as you did
If you're encountering a bug in which you cannot slow down using the z button Then please try this fix:
Open File Explorer from the taskbar.
Select View > Options > Change folder and search options.
Select the View tab and, in Advanced settings, select Show hidden files, folders, and drives and OK.
Afterwards, at the bottom left of your taskbar there should be a white search bar.
Type %LOCALAPPDATA% in there and open your %LOCALAPPDATA% folder.
Search for TheIsle folder and delete it. It'll regenerate a fresh version when you relaunch the game.
And for any bug reports please state what you've found using the link in #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞
ik how to slow down, it's just something i found which i thought was accurate lol
Every time I join a server and pick my dino I keep getting a picture of the landscape
HALP
You say, Make the map bigger so I can explore, Then you say the map is too big the isle is lifeless. What the hell is your point
@brave halo
Your comment I believe is better suited for #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞
Please use the link there to report any bugs you may find
@icy lion (sorry for the ping) how do i use this info? ive been looking for my creatures and its wasting my time when i could be playing
are you in the qa branch? its essentially been implemented exactly as you said (nice guess :D)
@unreal ridge You can already do that. If you click on a server you'd played on previously, it'll show your current animal on there
im on the quality assurance beta
Oops I'm late lol
im looking for my 52% grown deinosuchus
yea, if youve played a dino itll show the outline, hunger, water, and health
It could've been reset. Things got reset when the servers were upgraded iirc
the only problem is that the test servers are being reset constantly, and on top of that are having issues saving people's dinosaurs
oh
well then my hard work is probably gone
oh well
ill just play ptera
thanks anyway for your help
Yeah, that's why i haven't been playing deino. Try not to get attached to the stuff you do on these servers
yeah ill play deino when the update gets fully released
but i had a good memory on that thing
was aiming to grab a utah but the a ptera flew in the way and i grabbed it
and i was just as surprised that there were still utah players
yea, ive seen a lot of carnos too
I've only seen a handful of each. Haven't seen any tenontos or stegos tho
oh yeah one bit me and during the time i was with a larger deino , so the next time he attacked me , he got frickin wrecked
I've only seen a small teno so far
ive seen ai dryos but they never get too close to the river
the only time i saw a dryo cross the river was when there was like twelve all heading in the same direction
all AI
Pt growth how long
1 hour
thank you for that piece of information
I heard a stego earlier as a ptera
Oh lucky
@carmine vector bro that croc is twice your size
And it goes by weight. Since you're under half the weight of the croc, it can drag you
it didn't seem like it was all that much bigger
Just depends on the camera angle and stuff, it's pretty big. Plus it's kinda your fault for letting them get that close anyway, ya should've ran, whether it's able to drag you or not
I think that's intentional. Dondi said on stream that the reason cute animals like minmi and hypsi are in game is to destroy you emotionally and add to the dark atmosphere and horror that the game will have
Cause seeing only scary monsters get violently killed isn't scary. Seeing a cute animal get ripped to bits is tho
I thought I would be able to take it on from the angle I initially looked at it
Yeah, probably just an odd angle. Cause at the beginning of the vid you do look like you're too big to drag, but once the camera starts moving it looks a lot less weird
yeah I should probably take a look at the depth perception and look back in hindsight I shouldn't have tried
alright appreciate the feedback on my feedback
also in hindsight should have taken the chance at mercy he gave me at the end of the grab
I think that's he swam back afterwards
@tepid gate I legit also got stuck in that same spot
I've reported it, perhaps they will fix it.
I like this so much, adds a lot of immersion
@daring shuttle LMAO! I was that Utah! You dont know how to play as Deino yet thats all. Utah is fast my guy. Also, respect the Stegos or suffer their wrath. 🤷♂️
@daring shuttle Also, I did take a bit of damage during that fight. However, it wasnt enough to worry me and the bleed was so little I didnt need to wallow. Also id like to point out the POG move of mine. When you all swarmed me, i bobbed and weaved between and bit all 15 of you in a row pats self on back
@neat hamlet Ptera has bad stamina as a juvy to simulate the juvy not being good at flying. Once you get to subadult, flying becomes much easier and when you reach adult you can full on fly for minutes at a time. It's all about stamina management. Don't try flying as high as you possibly can right when you take off, be smart about how you use up your stamina
after about an hour of getting spawn killed over and over again I got into a server, found a nice spot with everything I need, then my wifi went out now I can't join any servers :/
I feel like a slab of meat; I can't get away from anything, or even fly away from the danger because take-off both ways seems to drain to half or less immediately
I have to GET to sub adult, but I can't fish because I almost always fall in the water, and all food atm is guarded by other dinos.
I got into a fight with a denio as a baby Ptera I was so small he couldn't hit me I lasted about 2 min before he killed me
I haven't had any of those issues. You can get to subadult without eating at all, just stay away from other animals. Once you get to subadult you can fish easily
hhhh I have bad luck, evidently.
And the fishing has a bit of a learning curve
Keep tapping space bar when skimming the water to keep yourself above the surface, and try and slow down before you actually get close to the water
But space bar drains stamina, and then you hit the water.
And swimming drains what's left if you had any at all
dont hold space
It doesn't drain nearly as much stamina when you're skimming the water
Don't hold it, tap it
Also don't hold W when you're fishing
why am I getting kicked out of servers with 13/110 players now
This implies I get that far. > > I start to skim and always plant
i can fly for a solid 2-5 minutes off of one standing launch as a fresh spawn
its got a pretty steep learning curve, and itll take time to learn
As a fresh spawn? I thought I mastered ptera but even I can't do that lol
obviously i have to avoid crashing.... which i still do, a lot, but yea
it takes practice
it seems like its at such a disadvantage compared to any other juvie
No health, damage, and almost no regular movement. o-o
Yeah, cuase it's fragile. But it grows very very fast
How fast is very fast?
theyre actually pretty quick when they sprint. well, for their size
theyre still slow in comparison because theyre so tiny
When I play ptera juvy I just rely on "glorified jumps." I fly, run out of stam, land, regen, repeat lol
Ptera grows in like an hour, you'll only be a juvy for like 10-15 minutes
Just avoid other animals until you're able to fly above the treeline
And try to avoid fishing until you're subadult or a young adult
Hi! Not sure where to put this because it might be a steam issue or pc issue, but I went to apply the patch and it's refusing to finish updating because "CONTENT FILE LOCKED".
The devs have said how to fix it already, but it isn't pinned anywhere so I'd say go to #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
Okay thanks!
Np 
Restarting computer fixed it all up. Thanks for your help ^_^
try spawning in north and try to find the place where 3 rivers meet. I'm usually able to make it to the cliffs there in one go, from where I am spawned. Cliffs give you safety from anything trying to eat you and the rivers have plenty of food
Can Dryos no longer burrow in the latest tester patch?
How do you skim as a ptera? I left click and just stab the water.
Also, there's a place along one of the major rivers that's perfect for ptera with water you can wade in and plenty of ledges to fly to. Only issue is that there's zero fish so you have to leave the area to hunt.
From where ocean falls/river used to be fly down river and just stay to the right even when there's a Y in the river, stay right. Youll find it in no time.
its RMB not LMB
Oh thank you superlunary!
https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/831394379842846740 Giving away other people's locations should be a rulebreak. Not a reason to delete global
I agree. In most servers it is a rulebreak to reveal locations in global.
Without global the game feels so empty and tbh kind of boring once you've done all the growing that you need to do.
But Punch said they want to do mods again in the future so if its still an issue im sure someone will create a global chat mod.
I just got munched by a deino while trying to snatch a fish as a ptera.... AWEESOME
@faint cypress #830660455487373352
Ah yes, ty dear!
I have a question regarding my settings.
As long as evrima has been out I have never been able to use right mouse click. My mouse is fine and is brand new but for some reason I can't lunge or pounce what could be my problem?
Can you skim as a ptera or use tail attacks as a stego or teno ?
It may be a problem about control mapping or mouse recognition in the game
What is z turn ?
It slows you down
z walk you mean then
The devs took down all the servers for a min cuz they identified an issue with some physics, so maybe thatll help fix your skimming and Z button bugs?
I've had the problem ever since evrima came out
Also you can delete TheIsle in your appdata\local folder, it fixed some bugs for me
But you'll have to remap your controls
https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/831403210039230525 As so many people say no: birds having their wings spread can gain altitude on convection and can fly hundreds of kilometers. In the isle, you can't even reach high or far places with some fun instead of time wasting, even lethal obstacles just to get there. As if finding food isn't hard enough, with even worse underwater vision than deino (but yeah, that's realistic of course). The isle isn't about exploration anymore. It's about limitations. Play BOB and you get what I mean. Don't say it's just a game for fun, originally based on the skin colors which some people find as bad as the whole game
Yet in most videogames, you can't usually run for more than 1-2 mins whereas irl humans can run for 30 minutes
But when I switch the primary attack from left mouse to right mouse I'm able to pounce. but not regular bite.
That's a balance problem
Looks like a problem directly tied to your mouse then. Does it happen in other games ?
There's probably something about your mouse that this game doesn't like... Does it have like, accurate utahraptor stickers on it ?
Accurate utah stickers?
That was a joke, something that could piss off the game
You think the mouse can really do that tho???
All other games and this one is the only one that has a problem??
I don't know how hardware works, but I know that sometimes a specific game or software won't work with a specific hardware
It's entirely possible. Until you can figure out why the rmb isn't registering, I'd suggest rebinding that action key to a different key on your keyboard so you'll at least have full range
I have a graphic tablet, and for example there where some applications that refused to handle its pressure function, while others worked fine
If you have another spare mouse, you should try using it to see if you can right-click
I'm stuck at 100% update wut do?
could see under water here
-174,883.141, -231,728.703, -30,945.709
seems its missing a whole lot of ground here
could someone put this in general feedback?
What do I do it it says content file locked?
hey has anyone measured out the deino growth yet?
5 hours
@bold palm planned for diets
Deino probably won't get any debuffs from cannibalism tho
Does the sea have fish?
no
currently everyone is mostly testing the deino and ptera. So fish get's eaten fast and only prey are other crocs and ptera's, i'm sure once the species get balanced again after the QA it will be more fun to play as deino than now, love it, just hate the cannibals 🙂
@elder rivet that weird effect is from the lack of night vision, so night has to be brightened so much, otherwise we’d be stumbling around. When night vision is implemented lighting will be better.
hey anyone know what to do if you catch a fish but it won't let you eat it? like it's just stuck in your mouth
You flying?
no as a croc
Oh, idk sorry, maybe it’s too big
Keep in mind that we do have channels for Bugs/Map Issues in #723294838610722847 + #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 . For issues you are having in game, go ahead and check in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 . This feedback channel is for feedback only. You'll probably get more assistance with issues you are experiencing if you use those channels provided. ^^
Sorry for the occasional copy/paste but it seems to be necessary.
is afk growing still a thing in QA test servers or allready much slower than normal? How does the game decide if you're afke or not?
How is setting up a discord server have to do smt with the isle a game about dinosaur survival
There's nothing about AFK growing
@frozen heron
You heard of geforce now? If you have decent internet and a Ethernet cord you should try using that, it supports the isle to.
A gtx 1650 + ryzen 4600H should be able to run evrima on medium settings, I don't have them myself but going off of what I know about them and other peoples experience, it should be fine.
Yeah I have to agree, I think the Pteras food drain should be higher or it shouldn't get that much food from one fish.
It gets pretty boring when you catch a fish, have a full belly and just sit there like a duck on a rock for the next day. I've noticed myself hoarding fish and not eating them, because I wasn't hungry but still looked for things to do before I get to full adult and go look at the map until I die
Dude I've been playing this game for five years bro I feel like i know when i see something, I rendered at least 4 hits on you, i saw the blood effect, heard the sound, i was an 80% adult Deino. Either this game is as broken as my last relationship or your hacking.
@barren zephyr not the right chat for questions.
This is for feedback
nah man i had the same thing happened to me last night. i was like a 35% deino and i bit a juvie utah like 3-4 times and he didnt take any damage.
yeah dude i had the same thing, I was a fresh deino and killed a sub utah in 5-6, as it should be. So i don't know why when i was an adult, it didn't apply. I'm not going to take that guys word for it as he was being an asshole to everyone including those stegos, they body camped for forty minutes at a time.
i have gtx 1060, 8 gb ram, i5 7400(i think) and the isle on a hdd can run it with everything but textures/effect(the one locked to epic) and shadows on cinematic or on but i have clouds on 2d/the lowest and its runing super smooth
Seriously? Wow I really underestimated those cards then lol
no it's the new lods i think or my card i duno
Utah mains am i right
i mean, if you were hitting the tail your not going to do much damage
Where are the NA server in the beta branch? There are only EU Servers... And if i'm lucky to join one of these 8 (or something like that) Servers i'm stuck in loading screen for almost 30min....
But the worst thing is, that i have to grow a new dino after each update ...
pls change that
i think the Update will be very nice but there is a thing i want to say ^^ me and a few people on the server had a discussion and we think that it would be very nice if the Nesting Mechanic will get released a bit earlier so that you can have more fun with Friends and that these mechanics are soo huge in the isle it needs to be there ^^ maybe in update 4 or 5 that you guys maybe release nesting mechanic that would be like a dream came true in evrima ^^
@mint hazel they turned down the ambient sounds in the latest patch
oooooh
Why should killing another deino make you sick? Gators eat eachother irl
Gators dont care what they eat, meat is meat
Ptera stam is fine as it is, it can almost fly forever without needing stam regen mid-air
Stam while flying is fine. If anything pteras stam regen should be faster
I lose HP for no good reason with my Ptera, my food and water are at 100%. No bleeding too.. Do you have this problem too ?
I saw some people have it, apparently it gets fixed by taking actual damage (getting bitten for example)
#need more eu servers
+1
actually we need community server able to host the update
Need a game can actually all play. The game itself is good. But "Wait to join an actual server" THEN "Wait for dino to grow!" (then get eaten :P). Should have been called "Waiting simulator" :/ literately most frustrating thing about the game is not being able to actually join a decent server.
stress test is stressing me out
The queue thing should be host optional if they even decide to make that a thing, and I’m sure there won’t be much issue when the update is fully released, maybe just on official stress test but it might turn out like that one Minecraft server that takes 8 hours to get into
@north onyx you need to change to the quality assurance branch
how...do i do that?
the same way you swapped to evrima, therell be a new option called quality assurance
also, if youre on the quality assurance branch you can only play on the stress test servers
ok. understood. 🙂 it says theres a Beta Code i need?
you dont have to enter anything, just select quality assurance from the dropdown c: if it doesnt start downloading automatically, you might need to restart steam
ok! thank you 😄
@kind parrot #general-feedback is for posting suggestions and feedback relating to the game. Bug reports should be posted using the form in #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 , and if youd like to use the image you posted in the report, you can post it in #723294838610722847 to get the link
you probably need to adjust the max pings/minute setting in your steam client
Ive been trying to log into a server but no matter how many times I restart or re download the game I cant get past the connect button
If you find yourself getting booted back to the menu after attempting to join a stress test server it's likely because the server is full, even if the playercount says otherwise. That's because of the sheer amount of users attempting to connect to these servers, resulting in the playercounts not displaying the correct number immediately
@crystal trail i think the Update will be very nice but there is a thing i want to say ^^ me and a few people on the server had a discussion and we think that it would be very nice if the Nesting Mechanic will get released a bit earlier so that you can have more fun with Friends and that these mechanics are soo huge in the isle it needs to be there ^^ maybe in update 4 or 5 that you guys maybe release nesting mechanic that would be like a dream came true in evrima ^^
alright but it doest work even on an empty server
the other servers are locked i think.
ok thanks
Balancing cerato based on a 2v1 pairup with allo seems unfair to cerato. If he is slow he should have something that really makes an allo or alberto think twice before picking a fight, like a septic bite or something.
also I'm pretty sure they've stated they won't do balancing primarily based on grouping
The slower opponent should have an advantage if they cant just escape
Yeah balancing on grouping just ends up screwing solo players
im also pretty sure nobody ever said cerato was going to be slower than allo
It makes sense on some things like troodon and utah meeding groups for good sized kills but those two dinos are also able to escape threats
There is a suggestion asking it to be slow
Unless I misinterpreted it which is possible cus im a dummy
idk why so many people are trying to balance animals in groups, its so flawed to do that in this type of game
"And where it can get a speed nerf. Ik if cerato got a speed nerf then allo would just catch up to it no problem. But if they're are more than 1 cerato's than they can take an allo. " I assume you mean this
Slower than allo based on the assumption that the ceratos could just outnumber them, which is very situational and screws solo players
Yea
Group dependency makes Dino viablity unlikely, which makes It less popular which makes grouping even more unlikely, vicious cycle
dont play the game if you dont think the content is apiling. And you dont need to play QA branch just do normal evrima/legacy if you cba wating
they can fix everything by removing magy and then everything non apex be slower than apex/be able to defend itself and making a fun allo that is fast and an ambusher
@uneven mantle rn the QA branch is public for everyone so get that branch and test update 3 if you can get
@hollow wraith hold h while sitting and you will sleep
it saves anyway BUT your charter stays in the game for 5 min so if you like risks
If it's on the quality assurance branch then the servers are often reset so it's unlikely your progress will be saved for the next time you play
i think they fixed that bc i had my denio after last patch
I don't think it's a glitch and more just the servers being deliberately reset
might have been update corupted the save files by being non compatible with old update
@real kraken the human structures will stay, but server owners will have the option to disable humans if they wish
Yeah I knew that humans could be disabled but I just feel like it would be nice if we could also remove the structures aswell :/
Ahaha I like you man. The blood effects were your blood. You need to actually hit with your bites, this isn't legacy. Welcome to Evrima, sorry to hear about your last relationship lmao
@steady cosmos Already planned
Yeah the surface stuff is
what is this?? Why cant I do anything?
you're dead
you might have to alt f4, im not aware of a fix
the spawn menu?
how would you flop into a fishing bird when you leave bubbles as croc?
Sometimes when you spawn you won't respawn immediately. I've noticed this happens pretty often when trying to spawn as a deino
ima put it here cuz i already went over with my issues a bit ago but now that its uhh swapped over to where i should be able to join the new servers. i dunno if its cuz its so full and i dont load in in time to snag the last spot or what but i cant join the stress test servers. With me fixed to the right beta setting.
yea, the servers are almost always full. you have to refresh frequently and get lucky
ah damn
It's cause the servers are so full. Just keep trying to join servers that aren't at the player cap and you'll get in eventually
everyones so hyped to get into the new dinos to try em out 
I don't blame them tho, ptera and dino are incredibly well made and the servers are performing very well
The amount of times I have read "add a queue system" in general feedback
jesus christ
maybe because its necesary? hmmmmmm?
its already planned
well then i think i didnt make a change from my feedback, sorry
No shit it's needed 
somebody can help me?
@potent haven #general-feedback isnt for that would you maybe delete the message and ask for help in the troubleshooting channels
if you need help #401464048610312195 #🔧-legacy-troubleshooting-🔧 #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 #pinned-troubleshooting are the channels
oops, wrong channel
@keen kettle
Make sure you're on the "QA" branch, also you can only join "stress test" servers.
Most servers are full and we dont have a que system, so you get booted to the menu.
Oh I forgot there was a "beta" called Quality Assurance, cheers. Hopefully now when servers arent full I can try those new dinos out.
@shadow night i thin sucho would be better because the bary while would kill some small deinos would give the adult ones any trouble probardly while sucho could kill smaller deinos and give larger ones more competition
Can a pteradon break it's wings so it can't fly? I was in a fight. On screen i a fully healed, but can't take off?
first of all, the original question shouldn't be in #general-feedback and second of all, sucho has no possible way of competing with deino
try swimming, that normally fixes it
no, but there is a bug that can prevent people from flying. swimming for a little bit will fix it
Thanks for a genuine opinion instead of spelling things with emoji
no porblem man
So should it be in #balance-feedback
no it should be in #401464048610312195 since your not giving feedback or suggestions
bary cant compete against deino either but while bary would start to struggle with mid-large sized ones sucho could kill mid sized ones and fight larger ones in pairs or packs i never said it could compete with adults just larger ones so not tiny ones it would help keep deino population at a reasonable level more than bary
deino would destroy sucho, but sucho would also destroy everything that isnt stego or deino in evrima, bary doesnt do that, instead it adds another playable that fits into the roster
im going to bring this to #401464048610312195 since this dosn't belong here
Wouldnt a knockback just screw over deinosuchus?
It's biting you not headbutting you
If we were being honest, it would be more appropriate for a similar mechanic to the utah where it would latch on and cause immense bleeding
If a Deino ambushes you from the water and sucessfully hits you, you should die
Thats like, what its built for
They are supposedly adding indicators for deinos moving faster underwater and occasional air bubbles for cautious players anyway
I'm fine with some sort of "tells" for non water based animals to see
I just hope they dont make them obnoxiously obvious
Making deino's lunge push its target out of its advantage zone would be kinda shitty unless perhaps it missed and just whapped into something
Speaking of which, I do wish it had some kind of tail whip secondary attack
It is a bit ridiculous that deino doesnt have that when its something crocs do all the time
And its pretty deadly when modern crocs do it, too
@dreamy wharf just to clarify you mean the only young deinosuchus get better stamina regeneration right?
That's the keyword there, yeah. Adults don't really have a problem, they're slugs and they're slow as fuck, but they're not god AWFULLY slow.
I just hate the poor balancing of the godawful stamina pool, drain, and regen for the juvie.
might want to bold the part where it says juveniles
It's at the 2k character limit. I can't. 
oof
Adding negative effects for cannibalism is dumb.
@jaunty quartz Having negative effects for cannibalism is already confirmed. (With most species)
Who ever suggested that
But why
It is the only thing that stabalises apex populations
rexes at least should be encouraged to eat the young of other rexes
only some species should be penalized
deino, cerato, rex, carno etc
Baby Rexes should just be hated by all 
yeah killing baby rexes should give everyone a grow boost lmao
if the only food you have is your own kind. Eat them
Dryo stomps hatchling Rex 
lol
cant wait to have juvie hunter galli back
That debuff will cause people to kill but not eat the body...
The Galli Gang, out on the plains to exterminate all Juvi's.
what im saying tho is the devs seems to want punishment for cannibalism already, so it should just be for a few species. personally carnis eating eachother doesnt even matter to me, they are birds/reptiles and they do this already irl even chickens do it
but if they want to add it, it should be for the most social species only
fair...
I don't see Bearded Dragons having negative effects for cannibalism...
i dont see chickens minding a bit about lunch-lynching one of their own when they get a lil scratch
So what do ya'll think about Drepanosaurus?
how big is he? one sec
Like a Squirrel.
yea he is pretty small. they do plan on adding small lizards and stuff though right, he could fit
i don't think he'd be very significant though
Na, but it'd be kinda neat to be walking through the Trees as a Herrera and ones just frozen out on a branch.
juvie herrera or a pteranodon might appreciate it as a snack so i mean i suppose why not
I wonder if the AI lizards will be prehistoric creatures like the Drepano or if they will be actual species (I rlly hope they aren't fictional)
Considering the modern fish i'd predict it would be more modern lizards with possible prehistorics mixed in but who knows
_Possible Solutions:
- Adjust Deinosuchus' water sense to only work if you're not sprinting (this is rationalized by the water turbulance generated).
- Add in interact-able foliage, or just foliage in general for the rivers. This is so smaller juvies and subs can actually allow adults/future aquatic predators to pass over since the rivers are just narrow straights for the most part. Solves the part of juvie deino not having the option to even hide._
This. Absolutely this.
I feel like deino's water sense should be more ambush/focused based instead of just active all the time regardless of movement. Maybe holding Q could slow your speed and give you a smaller area of focus. And while stationary it would be constantly active with a wider area. Also foliage would be great. Pls. Swamp is beautiful and I love all the little nooks and crannies. Would love to see portions of the rivers at least a bit more rocky with foliage around the water edges.
Any species ideas?
iguanas seem to be a given, since they are some of the largest arboreal lizards these days, blue tree monitors are a possibility too.
jesus lizards could be good food for some of the smaller juvies by the water, like beipiaosaurus and austroraptor
This might sound weird but, I think it'd cool if Apollo Engineering had genetically altered the Lizards making them have features of various of different strains. I also think it'd be cool if Invasive species were used.
i think emily stepp had fanart with a lizard carrying the hyperendocrin gen, something like that?
though i dont think something as easy as stumbling across a hyperendocrin lizard should be used to get strains lol
Like this Cuban Knight Anole having a Jaw that splits at the bottom like a Hyper Giga.
funky little features like that could work yea, a bit of an extra hint of how the island is tainted with so much weird shit that it affects other wildlife on it
Maybe like Utahraptor Tegus
(I'm being serious)
Although I guess that's kinda already monitors...
baby beipi snack (these guys can run on water so tricky catch)
Yeah! A basilisk is a definitive need.
It'd also be cool to see something like the Giant Day Gecko just hanging around in the canopy.
to look at or as playables?
Just as a part of the Non Prehistoric Ecosystem
seems cool
Imagine what Giant Tokays could do...
having different ai in the forests would be nice
tree monitors, giant geckos, basilisks, sailfin dragons?
these guys look neat, not sure how well theyd do as ai though if they'd be too easy to catch or not
Having certain species being able to loose tails and dart away from Juvi Utahs
monitor or iguana ai could even maybe whip an overconfident young juvies in the face
Sailfins are something I can see creatures in the Canopy and the Water hunting since they're semiaquatic and arboreal.
The only issue I have with Monitors is that I think that Juvi Megalania already plays those rolls, but all the way with Iguanas 
true possibly, though depends on how arboreal juvie megalanias are if they are given that
I think they should be, but your right it ain't confirmed.
I wanna see upsized AI White-Lipped Vipers striking small pteras and juvi Hypsi's.
@elder prism because there are hundreds of people trying to get into the server at once, you have to get lucky, also next time ask questions in #401464048610312195
drepano could be a fun addition but they'll need to oversize it
Bruh how tf is ptera gonna pick ANYTHING up with those lil nub toes lmao
Should we add some functionality to carno's arms too
lol
You can pick up juvie ptera after you kill them
Pteras legs aren't made to pick things up
It lacks in weight as well because of how small it is
I seem to suddenly be unable to jump/take off as a Ptera despite having full stam, does anyone know a solution to this?
Swim or fall from another place
Thank you, much appreciated!
Is there a tip for getting into any stress servers?
choose a server you want to go in, write it in the filter text
Keep refreshing untill an open slop shows up, try to log in it as fast as you can
if you are sent to the menu screen, try again, someone took the slot before you
this is what I do
@long lancePlease use #401464048610312195 for general questions, #general-feedback is for feedback and suggestions
it's a nice idea tho it's been suggested many times
i see, is it planned to be added?
i've seen some things that looked sorta like hidey holes in mapping streams before but idk about hollow logs and stuff
i honestly think it's a good idea since the thick grass is just obvious to check
and bushes
@barren zephyr if you need help with trying to get into the QA branch to participate in the stress test, please see #830660455487373352.
@empty rapids #general-feedback is not the place to chat, if you want to talk about feedback do so in this channel.
Sorry I didn’t know until I realised the name and slow mode
My game doesn't have a server.Give me a way
ive been trying to get into my first evirma match since 10pm NAE
Did this dude really try to ping the devs lmao
@zealous violet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noF-CLNSUZU The 2-call for Ptera is its beak clattering! :40 or so
Is it just me, or when you play Ptera it says your an adult but you still have the juvie model?
i just downloaded for the first time and when i try load the server they never load and its just loads forever and no servers come up
Hmmmm... I think I had that with the normal evrima branch before. But hitting refresh one time always helped
it wont let me click refresh
That is strange
Do you have the problem with your mouse curser being a bit off from the actual 'hitbox' ?
i was using the default before and am currently downloading the evirma public branch
will that help?
curser seems fine
ok
D
ptera should totally be able to get water while skimming, yeah! It has the whole throat-pouch and tons of birds DO do that already
someone help meee
oh! Thank you, haha. They might need a little animation to go with it. it was driving me crazy trying to figure it out!
Np!! I think they do clatter their beaks as an animation! I love it personally but i def. have seen a few ppl confused haha
Just noticed that I've never heard a Komodo dragon or any monitor lizard make a sound so what would the mega sound like 🤔
hiss?
I mean... tegus hiss and they are probably pretty similar to the megalania. Lizards tend to be very quiet in general, so it might end up being just a sort of low growl or hiss thats barely hearable.
Well technically Carnos are cannibals
@placid salmon its fast bc it can barely hold its own in juvie vs full adult fight
Well what do you want baby pteras to do? They can't hunt if they can't fly, or do you think that little chick, weaker than a hypsi is supposed to take down other prey right at the beginning
u addressing william?
Aye
Ptera's growth is fine imo because they're trash in combat, which is largely what determines how fast things grow in this game
An adult ptera that plays it smart is pretty untouchable. But that's like saying galli shouldn't grow fast because adult gallis are so fast and nothing can catch them
Even as an adult ptera, I had to bite a very very very small deino several times to even kill it. They're not great fighters
Yea, but nothing can? right?
what im saying is a 100% adult ptera cannot really fight alot of the juvie dinos like a 25% and up utah will smack them
most adult dinos can take on a 25% utah but not the pt
Hi guys just want to know how to lunge and turn at the same time as im really struggling to do it
I like that dryo suggestion, because this is something that can tie into diets as well. Herbi AI will naturally spawn around the food type their species is meant to eat, and carni AI spawn around the food source of the herbi's they're meant to eat
And those pteras are biting me which i cant stop
Is it only above a certain growth percentage i can do it??
Because other than that i love everthing about deinosuchus so far a great job has been done
Dumb that as a 60 percent carno i bit a deino 6 times and he lunged me once and i died. But no one likes my idea of giving them a predator to keep them in check 
Hope everyone gets bored of deino fast. No one is playing herbis and ai spawns are dumb. I wish ai spawned like legacy. Around carni players so i didnt have to fight deino after deino to grow only to get lunged once and die when im almost grown
I think the lunge in water should be changed as there has been multiple times i clearly got a ptera when fishing but i didnt.
Maybe if your at a certain hight in the water when u lunge in stead of doing a dash forward come out of the water like an arch because your body natrually falls at an angle
That would be amazing
@undone pike Open File Explorer from the taskbar.
Select View > Options > Change folder and search options.
Select the View tab and, in Advanced settings, select Show hidden files, folders, and drives and OK.
Afterwards, at the bottom left of your taskbar there should be a white search bar. Type %APPDATA% in there and open your %APPDATA% folder.
At the top you'll see the filepath, click "Appdata" to go back to the actual Appdata folder, then to local > TheIsle > delete the "Saved" folder.
@spice breach
From a Player standpoint, ptera is perfect for trolling other dinosaurs and I bet there are people out there playing that game but with biting and then running away. Or flying away.
But I wouldn't put that into the game, just so people can troll better and second... it's kinda gross
@odd sedge it's not more gross than throwing up. It's still a game and not reality 😉
Agreed, throwing up is kinda gross, but no one needs poop in the game
I know a bunch of player who would like to have this. They could implement that you lose an amount of hunger and thirst when doing so or make the hitted dino more smelly. Let's face the fact that they added throwing up to make the game more realistic. No one needs dinos to puke. If we follow the realistic way, we have to face that every lifeform has to poop.
It's so unnecessary tho. Puking makes sense, so dinosaurs don't over eat.
You want poo so people can troll
i'm not pro-pooping but i am anti-puke. A lot of animals actually cannot vomit. It's also unrealistic to overeat. They'd know if they're overeating, and -we- can't always tell with the UI; the old system of "can't eat if you're full" worked better imo. Puking and subsequent sickness don't add anything from just overeating, but hopefully it'll be worth more w/ diets.
That on the other hand is a pretty good point. Puking gets annoying at times, I have to admit that as well
yeah, it doesn't seem to add anything compared to legacy except an annoyance that's the fault of ui non-clarity, but hopefully it'll have more like... use/impact come diets. we'll see i guess
Also something that always concerns me generally is that those things could be used as fetish fuels and that's why I'm also heavily against any sort of mating sequence between dinosaurs.
A call or a fun little dance similar to exotic birds is fine and looks fun but anything more than that would just make really uncomfortable
Or similar to Spore, that works too
Though it's a little too cartoonish for The Isle
ya, SCUM has peeing and pooping, but people use it to kill someone then poo and pee on them... If anything, I'd say pooping and peeing would be random and not controlled by the player, maybe that could work, kinda like when you see cows just dropping loads, they just kinda do it, they're not like humans that sit down on a toilet and plan it all out. Could also set it in game so if you're on top of another dino it won't poo or pee, thus avoiding ever using it to troll. Would also make sense that the poo or pee would leave a sent so if you're another dino you could use that to track animals, eventually it dries up and goes away, but fresh would help lead you to a dino. Maybe as well only pee or poo when moving so your dino isn't dropping loads where you're sitting.
It's still gross and most people don't want it
Its temporary , after a couple of weeks only 10 percent will play deino, now its 70.
Pooing and peeing is natural and would make it more realistic, also many animals and even humans use those signs to track game so it makes sense although tedious as far as development is concerned and with or without it would be just as good as the other. I do think they should have scenting options though to mark territories. And scenting would require a scent gland or peeing.
Scent works fine right now, we don't need an extra way to track things down
What if you come into an area with a bunch of resting dinos, you smell fresh poo or pee and now you know there is something around.
You do that anyways, because there are yellow clouds in the game already
This just makes it gross
Current scent is not really good. And more ways to use scent would be interesting. As would territorial markers potentially. I don't see the issue really, it just seems like a personal problem for some people.
Saying it's "gross" is a weak argument, it would make it more realistic as it's part of natural life. Replacing things with unnatural methods makes it less realistic.
No need to make the mechanic visual anyway, could just be a scent marker on the ground or something.
It's a game, it doesn't have to be realistic in that kind of direction
And I'm fine with that. I see the point in that
right and you can easily circumvent the "gross" aspects of it, not like the map would be overrun by poo piles.
maybe use different colors each color represents a pee or a poo or a foot scent.
or a territory scent
heck you could even make different colors for different dinos to know what dino you're tracking
there will be no shitting or pissing mechanic, stop asking for it
We're discussing it, not asking for it. Thanks though.
Thank you
It's a shame though, considering it has potential as an actual mechanic.
I agree. Course I like games that are ultra realistic.
I literally just had this thought as well lmao
There is more to the discussion, you should read it.
Course that would require scrolling. 🙂
why so passive aggressive lmao
Dunno, guess that's just how i am. 😉
We had a long talk about it, talked about more than just peeing and pooing as well how that could even be implemented to make the game even more realistic.
I mean it might not be something to add to the game, that's fine, but ultimately it could along with different scents be implemented to add more realism so should at least be considered and discussed.
I think it would be good for dino life simulator. For example some Hell Creek formation dino sim. But the isle is fantastics, in future maybe there might be needed to add the smell of fuel, markers of eletromagnetic events, smell of smoke and fire. And the screen would be overcrowded.
@bold palm steer the topic back to something appropriate please.
will the tesr servers be set to 200 slots or more? 🤔
@outer yoke Quick note, do not take the ingame biteforce for real values, it's just a damage value for the game and not representative of reality. Aside from that, deinos bite may be weak, but it can oneshot (with full stamina and keeping the targets head underwater the whole time) everything except stegos above 80% growth.
@outer yoke you overestimate deino. massively. Balance is a thing. twice the bite of a rex is just stupid in terms of gameplay
Are the numbers off across the board then? Cos it's estimated the deino would've had 18000 newtons of bite force. Does newtons in game just mean points of hp damage per bite?
yes, if deino had 18000 N healt per hit. thats stupid amounts of damage in a single bite.
@chrome epoch Yes, it's just a damage value, nothing more, nothing less.
Some of them might be more accurate to reality than others, but none of them should be seen as a representation of reality, it's an ingame value, that's all.
which is why when people say "deino has this strong of a bite force it should be that" but in terms of balance and gameplay that just isnt possible
They should just rename it to damage or something, cause people take the current one as accurate to reality for some reason.
I agree
@outer yoke I saw your thing in The General Feedback, Deino is how it is due how small the ecosystem is, when more creatures like rex and spino get added, it'll get buffed to fit the ecosystem.
It's just misleading imo
Tho I think the deinos damage output currently is wonky anyways, Utah shouldn't survive a deino bite, ever lol
Anyway, it's just ingame, so take it for that. It also only applies to basic bite, so it won't tell you what a tenno tailslam or a stego swing does.
guys! thoughts on my suggestion in #general-feedback ?
hey, how to land in petra propely ?
I don't know, it's been like that once, not really ideal since herbis didn't go to water as often.
Especially now that we want players to go drink for the deinos to hunt
like hovering
@tardy patrol Z for airbrake
thx !
Do not stall in flight however, or you'll fall and potentially die, I think at least
i dont think its necessary @tardy patrol, sure leaves give some water, but its so minuscule its not really worth adding in
oh you meant like that. True, but the ptera can fly, nothing else can fly. It should be harder to grow as ptera like it is a Rex or whatever
I honestly think it's gonna be useful to have plants that gives small portions of water, this helps reduce risk of encountering a deino
thats the whole point of having deino though... to make getting a drink scary
Which would be contrary to the point of deino being a threat :p
But I want herbis near water, as a deino lol
Besides, there should be better ways to suspect deino activity anyway if anything :p
Ok
The idea behind the croc is not I bite I win, the idea is more I sneak up on you and grab you and drown you
@tardy patrol You can also rebind the key, if you find Z to be bothersome to use.
Deino makes bubbles if they're holding q
Things can always be adjusted as more things come to the game still a wip
I have actually a french keyboard and i tryed but i still don't find to land correctly haha, i need to stay on the touch Z or one click is good ?
which makes sense in giving deino an actual playstyle of waiting for the perfect moment instead of "I run in and you die". which has no suspense and is quite boring from a gameplay standpoint for both you (the deino) and is hella frustrating for the player who has to now regrow their whole dino due to "accurate bite force"
I understand but regardless I think the hitbox or/and damage calculation is being wonky, a few bites on a smaller Dino with the advertised 500 points of damage, should kill it, then again I don't really know the hp values of everything and how damage calculation is supposed to work
your weight is your HP
Ah
so deino can 1 shot a full utah
@tardy patrol No, you hold it, and you'll slow down. And like I said, do not overdo it. So you'll have to learn to judge the speed and all.
500 damage, 500 HP.
Then Idk what happened a few times
@tardy patrol Honestly, just try it out, you can grow to 50%+ without food or water, so just afk for 20-30 min, then try and fly and land. If you die, rinse and repeat until you get it :p
Then again I also found myself swimming through the air so Ima chock it up to stress test shenanigans
mustve not hit a direct hit, couldve moved just enough to not take full damage
Ok, thanks for the advice 🙂
Not true. Could be true in some cases, but far from always.
And deino does not oneshot a utah, not even on headshot, so that does not hold true in utahs case.
if you lunge it, its done for. thats what i meant, sorry for confusion, if you lunge it and pull in under its finished
Adult Utah is 1000kg apparently so 2 shot?
it is 2 shot for biting
My dumbass stego went up a waterfall, without knowing that the water plane goes with it, and now he can't get down again xD
Yeah, that's true, but with the biteforce. You said 500 damage and 500 HP, but that does not hold true.
Yeah there's a weird water glitch happening with the last update
hmm, probably
I think utah has 1K health
then again ive never found a utah to test it on so eh
Neither have I, but considering all the deinos complaining that they can't oneshot a utah, it would seem it has more than 500 HP, more than 750 most likely, since not even a headshot oneshots it with the bite.
I gave it a good few tries and then felt real punked by a few utahs at the edge
Lunge seems to be difficult to get right
We need test utahs at the edges xD
an adult deino lunges it's own length forward, so if you can visualize your distance, snap
That helps, but sometimes the bank angle is off or something cos it registers as a boost rather than a lunge, I think
Even tho I'm water walking apparently
@barren zephyr it's a new Dino on highly congested servers, which means most people are playing deino, meaning most of the food is gonna be deino. When the update gets spread across the community servers, I suspect this cannibal issue is going to die down massively. That being said, some foliage in the water could help, but due to aforementioned managing oxygen, you'll still probably find people afk chilling in bushes like normal.
@barren zephyr Make the detection only work for things swimming on the surface might help too, if that's not a thing already. Would allow other crocs to be more sneaky underwater possibly, even without more foliage to help out.
That is true, there is nothing stopping people from afk growing in bushes, except when the afk penalty comes, which I think would be good incentive. Afk penalty should not apply to deinos hiding in underwater foliage because you have to pay attention to oxygen so you arent technically afk.
I dont think the cannibal issue will fade because competition is a thing, plus Deinos will rarely ever get the chance to ambush prey large enough to fill them as an Adult since everybody is so cautious, so they will cannibalize.
Idk, I was able to stay pretty well topped up on elite fish in the western rivers, I don't think food is a huge issue unless you are congregated around 20 other deinos competing for food
And that's as a full adult deino
Hm, maybe then you are right
Probably wont work, as a Deino I always look below me to make sure I catch any juvie deinos sitting at the bottom
Fair enough, but not everyone might be that attentive. I figure it would at least not harm the smaller ones chances of survival so there is that.
the swamps are good example with the sunken logs etc where you can hide in. Expand that to the rivers and the smaller ones can survive
which im pretty sure the devs will do
The other thing is that honestly, deinos chances of survival to full adult should be low. I know it's a time sink, and really sucks when you lose your time investment, but Deino is really powerful, powerful creatures shouldn't dominate and over populate, survival of the fittest and all that
it's an apex after all true
@barren zephyr Maybe combining it with better foliage. Otherwise you'd still sense the movement and could just wait around, forcing them to move for air eventually, or just bite around, like how you'd do when someones tracks disappear and they might be hiding in the nearby bushes.
@grim trail That'd be cool! But I'd worry that with the amount of branches there already are, it would be it really hazardous to crash into the branches collision boxes ;3; Maybe just the biggest branches at the base of the trunk? 🤔
Update with diets will change everything i guess, cannibalizing will be negative for growth and development, we just need to wait little longer i think
People can still kill for the fun of it
Thats what Im suggesting, a Deino hiding in foliage at the bottom wont be detected by the sense. Also, in regards with the ''biting around the foiliage randomly'', well, I guess just make the areas with foliage very extensive, so it would be about as effective as a Carno biting at every bush it sees in the forest, idk.
They don't need to eat you
you think most do it for fun instead of hunger?
Yes
Ah, right, though I'm not sure foliage could remove the detection, not sure they can code that in. Would be easier to just remove detecting of moving in the water possibly, though maybe not.
And yes
i don't see the fun in left click and done but ok :p
Most do as a matter of fact kill for shits and giggles in this game
No matter what they play as
then i will wait once rules servers excist 🙂
I don't even know if rules servers will enforce no cannibalism for deinos as gators regularly cannibalize younger gators
the biggest issue is the kos, many rule servers forbid hunting when there are unfinished corpses around nearby
I imagine if the predators get preferred prey, that would make a difference. Most should be able to eat their own, it just shouldn't be good for growing or staying healthy. Just like how you should be able to eat rotten food, it just.. is gonna make you sick, but might allow you to last long enough to find better food.
@broken thorn
Cannibalism is not natural for every carnivore species. For crocs, yes, but cannibalism irl gives terrible diseases unless your species is specifically adapted for it.
To each their own, I dont like rule servers so I would like the game to be skill based and have ways where players are rewarded for strategic play.
mhm. I think that frequent cannibalism should be punished, outside of species intended to cannibalize each other like Ceratosaurus or possibly Deinosuchus
^
Animals that actively eats eachother do not have it as their main food source (usually)
there was dev talk a while back about a dynamic skin system that gradually turned you paler and paler as you consumed more of your own species as a visual indicator that you shouldn't be trusted
i agree, each should play as they like. i do like realism and rp, i do admire strategists, i 'm just not good at it myself :p
Pretty sure there was talk about eyes turning slightly redder too
I like a lot the idea of becoming white as you eat your own species, that way people who'd like albino dinos in the isle can have it, and it gives you a visual clue as to when someone of your species is a cannibal
'Darth Deino' xD
Without needing a dumb 0.1% chance of spawning in as an albino
plus it's a built in "hard" mode, preventing most usual ambush tactics
Yes because you would become easier to see
When you just want a white skin so you murder your babies 
Well that's the main problem of the mechanic
imagine seeing a pearly-white Psittacosaurus. "how did you even MANAGE that?"
People might start cannibalizing in order to become albinos
Albino human 
And herbs won't be able to be albinos either now that I think about it
Fun fact : Albino primates have blue eyes instead of red
Because they can't just be normal like every other animal
I miss this 
Sadly we just get funny short armed man
Wait I didn't notice how BIG cannibals are
pretty sure that's leucism and not albinism
I'm not a professionnal so maybe
Cannibals are like 9'5... look in the bottom right
I honestly want a newer cannibal concept (not the actual cannibals but the funny eyeless things)
though that was an unofficial concept
Yes but it is an official design for the cannibal... just that the concept is based of the design
99.9% sure we have seen dondi play the cannibal on a stream
yeah!! just not sure if the scale there should be treated as final
aww they dont have long arms anymore?
they never had
oh wait these are 2 different things arent they
@broken thorn this is not a similator nor is it trying to be
BUT i do canibalism shouldent be punished
Didin't say a single thing about it being one
Cannibalism should be punished
^
it will inderctly be with update 5
The isle
Yes, with Cerato
.......
cannibalism should only be allowed with dinosaurs with that playstyle
like if you dont follow ur diet(canablising) you will be punished
I just don't want little carnos running up to me and spamming 2 call, me threatning them and them still standing there 2 calling me for group.
#jk
It's how people play the game. If you don't want that to happen, then don't come across those carnos.
I actually reconcidered my thoughts and i see Cannibalism punishment working
unless cannibalism is in your diet
I guess
The Isle is very much a horror sandbox survival
do what you want to do
If you want to murder them you can't really be punished for it, but eating them... that is where the problem comes.
^
where it wont
Like eating 1 or 2 juvies of your own species isn't THAT bad, it will just bleach your skin slightly. But eating 10 you gotta have some form of punishment.
ceratos
yes i said that
yes
Becoming an albino sounds lit tho
basically, only Cerato will have cannibalism for it's diet
that's an outdated mechanic that wont be a thing
i think theres some species that should be allowed to dip their toes in cannibalism without punishment
Until you realise that everything will know that you are a cannibal and you are way easier to see
True
wait
you will be punished by not following ur diet wichs might or might not be canablism so it will be punished
I think Cerato should be slightly benefited for cannibalism
some dinos, like Carno, should have a neutral effect (but a limit)
yes, that is the diet mechanic
if cannibalism causes albinism then there shouldn't be white color customization
yeah this is exactly what I mean
you can cannibalize once in a blue moon
without issues
yes, however only for some
discord mods...
exactly
No there should definetally be a white colour option, you would just have another reason not to use it
I can certainly see compy being a cannibal
great
now they look even more like maggots
I can see compy eating literally everything
yes.
they are true rats
Jurassic park novel compy when?
there should be most collors bc everyone thinks difrent about dinos coloring some think about them like rhinos and elephants other like birds
Venom 
let's kill some John Hammonds
idr wut type of venom they had
its been years since i read the novel
Sleepy venom
I wouldn't hate some elder perks giving you some special skins
compy-dog
and John Hammonds
yes
neocompymorph
its an Alien3 reference
cuz neomorph
and doggomorph
which are the same thing
their venom only worked on those who were weak
Dawns (something with compy) form
Dalt, what's the difference between a procompy and a compy? Not bothered to search
(besides era)
I honestly have very little idea, maybe they are in different families?
Nah they are very close in size
just 60 million years between them
not carnivores, say your diet is tenonto, and nobody decided to play tenonto, you cannot be punished because nobody decided to play that animal. carnivores will only be rewarded for diets no punishments. But herbivores are always able to get their diet food, they just need to go to that location so herbies CAN be punished for not getting their diet food
for your diet, it wont be one select dinosaur that would give you a buff/positive diet point
so even if that teno wasn't there, you'd have other species to try and kill
speaking of diets
and... if you see none.
You can always try neutral diet dinosaurs
This is getting more offtopic than the isle discussion during fridays
yes, but there is around 30/40 dinosaurs on our roster, there is going to be quite a few animals that nobody is playing, and there isnt anything you can do about it
Compy diet 😳
but generally, stuff like compy would have a much wider range of food than carno
Compy should eat basically everything that is on the island (except for maybe bones and shit)
and then stuff like rex would have a much more specific diet
true
However, obviously, utah wont just teno to kill
It'll kill other dinosaurs in that environment for the same or similar diet boost
eg. Utah can kill
- Teno
- Minmi
- Beipi
- plus a few more
(all examples and not confirmed)
I mean... scavengers should be WAY more versetile in their diet, then the specific carnivores should have diets on their preferred food like Carnotaurus eating Dryo, Galli and Hypsi for their main diet
Scavengers should have a wide diet
and should be able to eat near-rotting corpses
yeah
well teno was just an example, say your a rex, and your favorite foods are trike and para, well trikes are going to be rare because they are hard to grow so there is more chance you that you straight up just wont find any. and on the day you were playing nobody played para, now your getting punished because there was one trike on the server, and nobody played para.
True, however.
You'll still have a wide (a larger range) of neutral diet dinosaurs. Which wont benefit you in any way, nor diminish you.
also
uhhh
ai exists
true
we also know that the larger ai is going to be more rare, unless I am mistaken
AI should not be THAT common so that you can actively use it as your only form of food since... actually why not
If AI will be as good as Amarok says it will be I could see the isle on singleplayer tbh
I like AI as it is currently, relatively rare and hard to get
And now imagine herd mechanics
i think certain AI should be more abundant than others
true
AI herding up... you could have huge flocks of Maias or tenontos or whatever. If it is made to be full quality it could literally be more fun on singleplayer
in certain areas
especially ai that should have herds
is diets working like this? I thought that diets were, here is a list of 3 of your favorite foods, go find them for some buffs. Not here is a list of favorite foods, foods that you tolerate, and foods that you hate.
Now... you could even have full on ecosystems like Triceratops on one side of the island with allos on the other
It's more like the later, there will be good food - neutral - and bad
because they don't want to FORCE you to go somewhere to grow fast.
However it's a temptation
although I am betting the AI won't be THAT good... but I have my hopes up tbh, It is 2021 so I don't really see why the AI can't be so complicated that this would work
yeah, while watching Amarok's AI streams, I feel pretty relaxed to say AI will be alright
I hope they force herbivores, since they can always just go get it, they just have to go get the pretty bush with red flowers sitting across the swamp
personally, I do hope it's quite binary with Herbis
either you go to a location where your favourite food exists. Or you don't and suffer the consequences.
"they just have to go get the pretty bush with red flowers sitting across the swamp"
This is hilarious when I now have found out that you can't cross the swamp with funny gator in there
uh... swim faster?
You can try, it doesn't fucking work 
lol
My goodness what an idea, why didn't I think of that?
it's all about gameplay + balance, not realism.
@tropic swan #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 or #🔧-legacy-troubleshooting-🔧
you need some aspect of realism in a game
If you have only fun and no realism it becomes stupid
You need some realistic aspects. Just not full on realism
it becomes bob*
anyone else think stego is lacking in mechanics compared to all the other current playables?
no
No
@solar salmon cera
Swing tail, win
feels like the tail swing won't be enough when other apexes start getting in
Deino should be able to cannibalise rarely
not only swing, the range on that thing
Reminder: this channel is for responding to topics posted in #general-feedback. Please take other discussion to #401464048610312195.
I've seen the tail merc like 3 adult deinos
thank you Sky
@tropic swan you might have to delete that file way edit dont do that i just relized you have the isle.exe on that way and then lose the game itself
don't worry, being fixed in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
death
@silver sierra
and the fracture update
as a juvie i could definitely see a deino surviving that fall
with early sub getting fractures
yeah see thats the thing, its happened to me multiple times throughout my attempts at growing.
juvie,
sub
fresh
dude
ur complaining that u died as an adult
i'd agree if u were a juvie
but u were an 8 ton crocodile and u fell 6 feet
thats how u die as an 8 ton crocodile
A horse cannot survive drops most of the time.
Even still, a fall into water,in my opinion would not kill it\
bad example
horse legs are practically twigs
a fall into water is just as painful as a fall onto land
and this game is beyond realism at this point, shit, a stegosaurus can litterally survive being bitten in the face by a 100 percent deino.
that's why we brake water first before we jump into it
Have you jumped belly first into a pool from a decent height?
It hurts.
And it can kill you if it is a sufficiently high drop
especially if you weigh 8 tons
and in a FPS
you can get shot in the chest multiple times and fully survive with a med pac
REALISM, huh?
This is why you dive with your hands contacting water first
My point is, i dont think you should be punished for a simple mistake, by just getting all your progress reset, for not expecting a crocodile to fucking DIE from diving into water
dont you wear a bullet proof vest in an fps?
i mean, u shouldnt be unscathed by getting shot even with the vest but u shouldnt die
yes and no
depends on the fps, however being shot in the same place does nothing most of the same time- even if the vest is broken
dude
do the math
a 6 foot drop for an 8 ton crocodile is like a 50 foot drop for a human
that's the point of a survival game
In team fortress 2 a bow shot doesn't instantly kill you and the arrow sticks on even after having healed.
Imagine the pain irl lol
It was not a drop, i will clarify, it was a slope.
shit game physics
a lot of pain
u said drop in ur suggestion
Read it.
u said u fell down a 2 meter waterfall
Properly.
that is not a slope
u said a rather steep incline and then u said a 2 meter drop
It's called a waterfall for a reason
I was going to the side of it, and there was a rather steep incline, okay? stop busting my balls for wordchoices LOL
u said u were testing the waterfall floating things
the bug
where u can float off of a waterfall
u werent going to the side of it
and you pained the price for curiosity
Okay now your telling me what I was doing in my game?? LOL
no im telling you wut you said you were doing
I was actually attempting to get evidence to submit a bug report.
@lucid hemlock #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
yeah
you werent trying to get around the waterfall
What??
lemme post ur message
Once again, while attempting to find one of those waterfall bugs where you float in the air, I slid down a rather steep incline, hit the water and died instantly, this time a 100 percent grown deino. Not a fun way to die after grinding five hours for it, but alas, I had quite some fun while playing, only gripe, obviously, is being instakilled by a meter/two drop into deep water is not too fun, and will be quite frustrating to new players, or just any player in general, who does not know the Deinosuchus inability to take a freakin dive. I'm not saying remove deino fall damage, but at least nerf the balls out of it when going into water.
the VERY first line is "Once again, while attempting to find one of those waterfall bugs where you float in the air"
@last topaz
even though the devs aren't balancing dinos on herds
Herds exist, especially with Herbis.
It should be promoted for some and negative for others
I was attempting to go around it, found the bug by accident, fell the same distance and survived, i attempted to recreate it, resulting in my death.
if u found the bug then whyd u fall
and why isnt that mentioned in ur original message
the bug is that you DONT fall
i mean, isnt this like the 5th time you have complained about dying to fall damage, so unless it was someone else then I would have thought you would know by now to be careful by anywhere that looks sketchy and you might fall
wait you're serious?
@stiff pumice
good idea
we're getting a UI overhaul in Update 4 (unless they change it). Something like this would look more pleasing to the eye
they've done this before?
ik somebody complained about dying as deino to fall damage, idk if it was this person
Well i know im not the only one then lol
Ah shame on me, I haven't been keeping up with their updates and all that. 
complaining that you died of fall damage is only valid if u fall 3 feet or less (depending on the dino)
@hybrid matrix this you bro? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY0pGKWRVYs love your vids man
Yep, into the Aurora. Pretty cool. We got the Prawn Suit recipe, and the materials to make one. Episode 9 is gonna be fun ;)
Official Discord Link - https://discord.gg/J8Yu8KX
yes that is me
didnt even know it was you
have you watched my videos before?
nah, i just assumed since only one person is that cringe to still use the word derp like its 2009 and we're all still reading rage comics
so how would you describe my pfp
y'know
"I fell from a lower bit of a waterfall, as a 30 per cent deino and died instantly. Into water aswell. Please balance out their falldamage, especially into water, deep water." lmao is was you dont try and go "im not the only one then"
the one that I based my whole social media presence off of

no im genuinely curious
what word would you use to describe my profile picture
im too tired for this man imma go read some rage comics haha trollface epic xD
wow that got off topic fast
i mean
you're the one that brought my channel up
:)
yeah, thought everyone should know about it, like ur vids bro keep em up 🤣
everyone who reads general feedback discussion in detail
actually
why did you bring my channel up
it makes no sense if you were trying to use it as an argument
and that's really the only explanation I can think of
because man like i said, i saw talent and just thought the isle community should see what i saw
not buying it
my videos are half-assed
yo can i show all the boys
It seems Borderline impossible to join a Stress Test game
I usually keep spamming join on a server that has a slot available, sometimes it works
That’s what I’m attempting lol
I just joined NA8 rn lol
Maybe it’s cause there’s so many people also trying to get in that it’s just popping people back out
I hope that if u reacted to my message, you know wut each reaction is for (yes, no, heart, dmg)
i cant join any test server it just kick me out while loarding... is this normal..?
so i always take the ones who have much place for players so it is not full
It’s been happening to a lot of ppl. It happens to me too. You just gotta keep trying until you get into one just cause so many ppl are trying to get in
ah well thats annoing;D
Yeah tell me about it XD I tried for 2 days and I’m just now in a server
But is it just me, or when playing ptera, (I’ve played it a couple times now) my model grows and gets bigger but I still look like the juvie model. Even at full grown. Like my crest is still tiny. Is it because I’m playing female? Or is this an issue?
That's because you are playing female
Ye females have a much smaller crest than males
thre are differences, overall head and eye shape for example. but your crest wont change much
I feel like if the musics based on any damage, including fall height, people wouldnt like it very much since it would just go from silence to blasting. I think it would be nice with heart rate, especially if it starts rising continuously to a point the longer it goes on if you're looking at a dino or being attacked, or till it hits a point at a roar, then goes back down to near silence, although i think for a roar like a rexs it should be more of a low note to accompany the heartbeat instead of a full song
@hybrid matrix I like your suggestion with the music.
thanks
Why is there a stress test server with 0 people on it
But it still won’t let me join it
Cause it could be down
You can look in #830660455487373352 for servers that are working usually @barren zephyr
Ok
fixed ty
This shit is so annoying you can see 108 out of 120 people. It wount let you join.. Thanks isle
@hollow flint try it but that’s an old video and I don’t think you can do this anymore
but if you can dm me
@zinc anvil Stego still does an extra bite when you're done eating, is that going to get fixed?
@real kraken humans will be optional for server admins, it won't ruin your experience as long as you play on a server without humans
ik that, I was just curios to see how many others wanted/didnt want them
I think the biggest needed update to the game is to add a queue for joining when a server becomes full. there is nothing more frustrating than trying to connect to a server at the moment.
@real kraken
Humans were always supposed to be in the game, no point in making a post about it.
oh fair enough
Ik but I was just curios, I've been dreading it since 2016
Yup 👍 give me 5 minutes to put a report in
Yay!
i put a #general-feedback and would love all of your thoughts on it. or thumbs up if you like it.
not sure if this is the right place to ask, but: I know mechanics will be put in place (or already are?) to stop AFK growing. But are there exceptions for ambush hunters like the Deino?
the way i remember it is they want things for you to do for your dino that will give a slight increase in your growth and if you afk then it takes abit longer so there mite be like eat a fish, bite somthing that is at the waters edge those things i think.
like prompts that come up?
don't know for sure but that what they talked about in one livestream
@visual cave I suspect even deino might get some preferred prey to speed up growth maybe, as well as what Croc say, some sort of "affinity" has at least been mentioned, doing this or that to keep your critter happy. But I can't say what the plans are right now, affinity hasn't been mentioned in a while from what I know. We know we're getting diets, but they might be more impactful for herbivores, since they can get their pferred food, whereas a carni obviously has to rely on the right herbi/other carni being around.
no problem i love the game
"a carni obviously has to rely on the right herbi/other carni being around" I do hope punishments for cannibalism are coming as soon as possible though 😛
ya i know but simetimes food is food
probly gonna come in update 5 with diets
awesome can't wait to see what you all have instore!!
@visual cave For some. We know cerato is into cannibalism, others might be too, but most carnis will probably not like to eat their own kind. Now, eating other carnis is probably fair game, and you could always kill your own for any other reason, or just because they happened to be there!
oh wait yo it's you! offtopic but I like your youtube 
yeah, it's really not that much of a problem in Legacy, for example. It doesn't happen too often and when it does "oh well, all in a day's work", but currently cannibalizing Deino's is a pretty big issue (for me at least). I guess introducing more species will help too
thanks mate!
im really would like to see more of the plans for humans and how they are going to be added to the game, or if there a on or off feature.
hi @visual cave
@visual cave I think the deino issue is simple hype and overpopulation right now. Similar issues every time something new comes out. I think it'll get better when update 3 drops properly, when people know all the new balance changes, and at least some have gotten the hype out of them.
i hope some servers will have humans and others don't
same!
i think that was the idea last time they mentioned it, but I don't keep up with every tidbit
thought human goes for water, croc eats human hole, croc wins heh
Yeah, that will be, from what we know right now, a server option.
I'm worried you might spend hours growing a dino and then getting sniped from kilometers away lol
So if no one else does it, just make your own server, if you can afford it and all of course.
i think that was a quote from anthm that he wanted wile reviewing the dino's
**
I'm sure someone will make a tribal only, or merc only server, just to see what will happen :p
fish wars!!
official evrima stress test - na5 isent up rn
@real kraken it can be enabled/disabled
It is supposed to be a bad thing that managing stamina on the most mobile animal in the game is somewhat of a challenge?
@paper oriole my bad thought i was typing in isle discussion
I could possibly see a buff in amount of stamina for the ptera, but it should not be getting stamina while up in the air.
@rough dome
Hey man. What's worked for me (might not for you) is to refresh until I find a server with a slot open, click it, wait a minute or so, then click connect.
@rough dome
Think about it, a thousand other people are looking for servers with a slot open and in the time that they all get booted to menu and have to refresh the list again because they all clicked connect at the same time now you're joining when the next guy leaves. Idk man 🤷🏻♂️
i think they should add the Monkeydactyl
its not a joke
its a cool lad of a dinosaur
IT ISN'T A DINOSAUR YOU UNCULTURED SWINE
It is a Pterosaur
yes but they should still add it
I don't see why
because its cool
We already have 50 animals
we dont need more if they bring nothing else than: They cool
Yes... it is the only reason they would add it, this shit happens every time
A new slightly wacky animal gets discovered and hundreds of people go: ADd tHIs AniMAL
Like no? They really wont.
pretty sure that it is the oldest thing that could have played the isle
wh-what?
@sage rivet #stresstest #betaproblems
Yeah we had it happen to 3 other friends today and now me on AU1.
Don't go into the servers expecting to keep what you're growing, they're reset often
It's not even that it's an issue with the beta, it's just that player progress is wiped
Yeah all my progress was just lost completely.
Yeah, that's intentional
Then write a proper suggestion please.
Mods and Devs alike are tired of dinosaur suggestions like
Add this dinosaur
Buff that
Nerf this
If you want it, make a proper suggestion. Best with a general description of the animal, unique features and what niche they could inhabit.
Because else no one is gonna take it seriously, because we don't need new creatures for no reason
ok
@atomic copper The whole point of stress test is to get servers full.
That's why it's called a stress test and not an update.
@barren zephyr I like your idea, but the thing is with creatures who eat venomous/posion snakes gain immunity not more toxic capabilities
The idea itself was mainly inspired from snakes such as the Keelback its self that eat Toxic Toads which make them poisonous, although not the same I still figured it could be a neat addition and ability.
Being forced to eat some venomous AI in order to be able to use venom is a bad idea I think
i think he just wants it as an option to improve the venom
It wouldn't be to force you to eat them just a bit of a venom booster.
hmm
there's also some birds who eat poisonous beetles/berries and become poisonous themselves, this could be cool for ovi and hypsi
if we are delving into that topic
Poisonous Baby Hypsi's 
venom enhanced troodons and poisoned ovis and hypsis could boast brigtened colours when they have this buff applied
hmmm I don't like where this is going
eh jus a thought
Maybe just for like Baby Hypsi's and Ovi's.
If you bring up magy I'm no longer master of my actions
atm ovi looks boring and useless as just a smaller galli, which is a shame for such a cool little dinosaur
unless they have something secret planned for it that they havent revealed
Ovi has the room for a whole lot of neat abilities
I disagree with it looking boring but I get what you mean.

