general-feedback-discussion

[barren zephyr]

isle isnt realistic and never will be realistic

while it might not be realistic there needs to be some sort of realism

[paper geyser]

Isle is pretty realistic for the most part. It’s sci-fi more than fantasy

But deino making bubbles won’t end the world like you make it seem

[barren zephyr]

saying the deino should give off air bubbles because it's been under too long is dumb when all it has to do is emerge

[barren zephyr]

naw it just doesn't make sense is all im saying

[paper geyser]

It doesn’t need to make sense

Understand that

[barren zephyr]

it wouldnt break the gamer or anything

it just seems like a dumb mechanic lol

[paper geyser]

Herrera climbing trees doesnt make sense, neither does utah not having feathers

[barren zephyr]

thats my opinion as you are entitlted to yours

[paper geyser]

Of course

I’m just saying “realism” is often a weak argument

[barren zephyr]

yeah i can see where it would be

but to have a ambush predator do something like give off bubbles would be counter-productive, that's like saying the Rex should snarl and heavy breathe after being crouched for a while

[hybrid matrix]

well imo instead of bubbles, it should be like a mini wave
u kno how when u move ur hand under water but rlly close to the surface, and it makes a small wave? thats wut im talking about
the closer it gets to the surface, the bigger that wave gets, but it wouldnt be very large unless the deino is actually visible

[harsh flax]

@hybrid matrix that sounds cool

[left nacelle]

Deino can already do things that irl crocs can't do, like eating underwater. It's not like it would completely negate deino's ability to ambush or anything

[hybrid matrix]

not just cool, its also realistic

[harsh flax]

Yes

[barren zephyr]

the idea of it causing ripples would be nice

and after thinking about it it would make it more of a challenge and a bit cool @harsh flax

it just would be difficult to say how long it would stay under until the bubbles show up

and honestly i don't even think the bubbles would be detectable unless you are already expecting it

[harsh flax]

I suggest at least when the stamina bar is at least a quarter empty, so it would give it another reason to bask on land

*when it is below half

[barren zephyr]

as a Deino main it would also give us a reason to not just babysit the water

[vestal rune]

@hybrid matrix @scenic lintel iirc the reason that only adult utahs can pounce is because younger utahs pouncing caused animation issues

[scenic lintel]

Oh

[left nacelle]

@hybrid matrix I could be wrong about this, but can't utahs pounce starting at 85% now?

[hybrid matrix]

oh i didnt kno about that
but i meant like once u enter the adult stage u can pounce

[scenic lintel]

Lets hope pounce will be on 75%

[hybrid matrix]

i dont think so, but last time i played it was 100%

[scenic lintel]

Yeah before it was 85, now its 100

[left nacelle]

Oh, they must've changed it back then

[scenic lintel]

50% i think will be good option

[left nacelle]

Probably. But they'd have to find away to fix those animation issues

Maybe growth could pause when pouncing, that way you wouldn't grow during a pounce and then there would be no issues

[scenic lintel]

Are they even working on this?

To fix that issue

[left nacelle]

Yeah, they're always working on utah pounce. They need to anyway since it'll be the base for a lot of other mechanics like grappling

Don't know if they're working on making the pounce work for younger utahs tho

[deep jetty]

for utah pouncing before adulthood, it could be where it can only pounce things small enough that it can pin down, like a juvi dryo or hypsi

[left nacelle]

@tiny geyser That probably wouldn't work due to growth issues. Like what would happen if a juvy utah grows to an adult while in/on a tree?

[kind parrot]

as for the petra stam drain. It does feel way WAY to taxing just to fly up to get over the tree line. I get its a balance thing but it feels a bit over the top. Imagine if you have a nesting area on one of the mountains that it take you two or so 'rest stops' just to make it up. Petras are going to be super vulnerable if on the ground and draining their stam to such a sharp extent feels very crippling. If anything. Make the stam drain depending on how sharply you are flying up, if your just easing up it don't drain as bad, but you have to travel further to reach heights, vs if you just flap hard to head up to gain height in the spot your at. Could also give them a normal easy take off, and a 'oh no I need in the air NOW teeth are coming!' power take off that eats stam like it currently does.

[tiny geyser]

I would imagine you would get worse at climbing over time, and if you grow out of the climbing phase you just slide off the tree. I didn’t go in depth so there are really lots of issues with the thought.

[kind parrot]

It would be nice if there were a few new trees, or tall tree stumps that petras can land and rest on. It could pave way for dinos that climb trees. As it is I don't see the petra being able to land in any of the existing trees.

[left nacelle]

Ptera isn't made for landing in trees tho. There's plenty of large rocks and cliffs for them to land on

Ptera will even be able to cling onto the sides of cliffs and stuff

[kind parrot]

Theres only a few areas of rocks that are heigh enough to be seen as safe for a petra to land on that another dino isn't tall enough or able to easily jump onto. Many of the rock formations are seen as utah areas due to them being able to find a means on top.

I think there was like, 4 areas with rocks that were tall enough and in a way that I couldn't hop on top of.

[left nacelle]

Those areas take utahs a while to climb onto. You'd have plenty of time to fly away before they can get onto the rock. Plus the map is being updated. I guarentee you more rocks will be added for pteras to land on

Plus it wouldn't make sense for ptera to be able to easily get onto a tall rock that nothing else can get onto, those rocks should be rare

[kind parrot]

The issue is those areas nearly always have utahs already on them. they sit up there to be safe, jumping down to eat/hunt then back on their rocks. what im saying is it opens a means for future dinos that can climb, not just dinos that can jump.

[left nacelle]

9/10 when I see a big rock, there's no utahs on it lol. There's a few rocks that almost always have utahs on them, but there's plenty of rock areas that utahs don't hang out at 24/7

The one area I can think of in particular that utahs are almost always at is that tall pointy rock along one of the rivers (I don't know where it is relative to landmarks)

[kind parrot]

If anything it be nice to know utahs wont be fully safe on their rocks anymor.e Bet a l;ot of players will go after them dive bombing with petras. But petras still need more places they can rest that isn't on the ground.

[left nacelle]

Pteras will be able to cling onto cliffs (Probably not as soon as they come out, but eventually) and there's plenty of places on the map where you could rest without being bothered. The last time I played The Isle, I was in an open field and I barely saw anyone

[haughty cliff]

There should def. be some cliff areas for ptera nesting! That'd be awesome. They are upping player count, though, I think--once more dinos/skin system are released I wouldn't count on fields being empty

Out of interest, have they confirmed ptera clinging/climbing? I hadn't seen that yet

[left nacelle]

@dusty depot Just an fyi, the game takes place in modern times. These aren't actual dinosaurs, they human made animals that are based on their prehistoric counterparts (I'm saying this because you said "or whatever existed back then) and random birth defects from hatching wouldn't be fun. If someone got one, they would just kill them self and ask for another nest invite, just like people od in legacy when they don't like the gender they were born with

[deep jetty]

yes pteras will be able to cling to cliffs apparently, but not climb yet

[left nacelle]

They won't be able to climb at all actually

[left nacelle]

And yeah Filipe confirmed ptera clinging multiple times, they won't climb tho, they'll only cling

[haughty cliff]

neat, ty!

[left nacelle]

Np

Btw @woven remnant Posting memes in #general-feedback is an easy way to get banned, especially considering how recently you joined

[woven remnant]

I haven't recently joined and it's not a meme

[left nacelle]

Well you have very few messages in the discord, and that very clearly is a meme

[woven remnant]

Old isle when🙏

[left nacelle]

You know mod support is coming back, right? And the reason development is taking longer is because things are a lot more polished then they used to be and we don't have legacy's old spaghetti code

[woven remnant]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/540280689103339520/814288060120170496/the_isle_then_and_now.jpg

[left nacelle]

You just gonna keep posting the same meme?

[woven remnant]

It's not a meme!!

[left nacelle]

It is tho. I don't think you know what a meme is lol

That is a meme format. Even if that's your opinion, it's still a meme

And either way, it doesn't belong in #general-feedback cause it isn't constructive feedback

[woven remnant]

It's feedback old isle when🙏

[left nacelle]

It's not feedback. It's saying "I like the old Isle" there's nothing constructive about it. Old Isle was trash, and that's coming from someone who's played since 2015

Quality > Quantity

[woven remnant]

Ok

Old isle when🙏

Old isle was best isle

[left nacelle]

Dude, you're gonna get banned lol

[barren zephyr]

AAAA

@woven remnant

icon

hilarious

[woven remnant]

Get out

This is feedback discussion!

I simply xannnot get banned I think

[vale pawn]

uh

[left nacelle]

<@&401466542140817419> Pretty sure we've got a troll here

[woven remnant]

I am not a troll

Genuine feedbCk

Back

[barren zephyr]

awww ping the mods honey

[terse hornet]

@woven remnant please do not spam the same message

[barren zephyr]

isle discord speedrun

see how long it takes to get banned

[woven remnant]

Ok

Can I be yellow please

[barren zephyr]

piss

[vale pawn]

bruh

[feral wedge]

Also don't discuss in #general-feedback @versed condor @woven remnant

You can work it into an actual feedback post to make in there, but just a meme isn't an appropriate format.

@barren zephyr You too. See here ^

[barren zephyr]

sorry about that

[left nacelle]

@barren zephyr Idk if they'll be able to knock them over for food but it's been confirmed that large animals (trike was specifically mentioned) will be able to knock over small plants, like banana trees. And iirc hypos will be able to knock down normal trees

[barren zephyr]

Honestly that's better than nothing

[left nacelle]

Yeah lol. And we will be getting more food variety with diets so maybe something like that will be added. Who knows

[modern stone]

"yeah I react with ⏲️ on suggestions in #general-feedback, how could you tell?"

https://tenor.com/view/dented-head-head-smile-gif-12205170

seriously, there are people reacting that on everything, even unconfirmed shit

[left nacelle]

The timer just means it's coming in the future. If there was a timer on something unconfirmed, either it was confirmed and you didn't know about it, it's very similar to something that was confirmed, or the person who posted the timer was wrong. And from personal experience, it's barely ever the last one

[modern stone]

50/50 chance it was never confirmed

[left nacelle]

Can you maybe give an example of something unconfirmed having a timer reaction?

[modern stone]

I don't think devs ever confirmed certain dinos being able to destroy trees to eat the leaves.

The farthest they ever went into trees is taller dinos will be able to eat from them iirc

[left nacelle]

On stream, not long before evrima was released, Dondi was saying that the trike and other large herbivores will be able to knock over banana trees. I remember this vividly

[modern stone]

dondi said a lot of things before evrima release

he's not really a credible source

[left nacelle]

But he's a dev. If he said a feature is coming eventually, even if it isn't in yet, it's confirmation until it happens. If it wasn't true, he shouldn't have said i

Plus it's not like this feature is super out there. It makes total sense

[modern stone]

I also remember dondi saying he wanted Trike to be the first AI so he could watch people kill themselves on it, although that is based as hell, look what is planned for AI right now and in the future

I remember that barely

[barren zephyr]

I really hope we get it or at least some variation of it

I feel like the herbivores need something to make them fun

Like dominance displays and fighting for a mate and stuff would be cool

[worn pumice]

They went the complete opposite of trike ai now it’s rex ai

[left nacelle]

"he wanted" trike to be the first AI. A lot of things happened that had to change plans around. There's a difference between saying "this will be the first [Insert thing here]" and saying "this will be a thing in the future"

[modern stone]

also some other things that never happened that I'm too lazy to name (spiro being the main map)

chungus

that isn't the first time he said something like that and it hasn't happened

it's likely that happened when evrima was overhyped

[left nacelle]

Just because he says a thing will be added in the future doesn't mean it needs to happen right away lol

[modern stone]

and they planned on adding a bunch of stuff on launch but couldn't

there are no mentions of it happening in the future

besides dondi saying it once

(not credible)

[left nacelle]

It's a feature that makes sense tho. I don't know how to explain it well, but it's different from other features that had to be scrapped, since this one makes sense, is a low priority, and wouldn't be hard implement

[modern stone]

"it wont be hard to add so it must be added even though its barely been mentioned at all"

durr

[left nacelle]

That's not what I'm saying. But okay then

[modern stone]

that is not how it works

thats what youre saying

[left nacelle]

It's really not

[modern stone]

you are completely ignoring the fact

that it was mentioned

fucking once

once in a dondi stream of all places

[left nacelle]

Mentioned once in a Dondi stream =/= Unconfirmed

[modern stone]

its most likely him just getting carried away and saying stuff that wont be added

there is not a single mention of it being added outside of there

[left nacelle]

If he was getting carried away, he would've mentioned crazier stuff than "Animals can knock over plants"

There isn't another mention because it's such a small feature

[modern stone]

hes literally promised like

a ton of random shit on stream

well

not random

[left nacelle]

Plus we first heard about megalania on a Dondi stream

[modern stone]

but stuff that is unlikely to come

megalania was always planned

[left nacelle]

You're forgetting about the vast amount of credible stuff we've heard from him

[modern stone]

it wasnt first heard from dondi

im pretty sure

[left nacelle]

Then when was it first heard from? I've been following the game since 2015, and I didn't hear about it at all until Dondi said it during that one stream with Paradym

[modern stone]

I thought it was one of the many dinos they wanted to add to legacy before it was fucked

and then they couldnt

[left nacelle]

I don't think it was, I never heard a single thing about it until evrima started development, and going by people's excitement, I don't think anyone did

[modern stone]

fair enough

idk

right now

I think it's unlikely

unless it's added in with the diet update

[left nacelle]

I do get your point tho, but like it wouldn't make sense for him to mention such a small feature if it isn't planned

But

[modern stone]

yeah

lol

it'd be hard to reprogram every tree to have physics to be knocked over

[left nacelle]

He didn't specifically say they'd knock it down to eat from it. He just said they could knock over trees by walking into them

[modern stone]

it's going to be like bob then where you have dinos sending trees everywhere lol

[left nacelle]

True, but that hypo knocking trees down thing could've easily been scrapped

That's why I'm not 100% sure on if it's still gonna be a thing

[modern stone]

yeah

we'll see though

[zealous violet]

@left nacelle What do you mean global chat isnt going to be a thing in the future??? Thats a horribel idea! We need global chat. It should be a player's choice if they want to toggle it off or on.

[left nacelle]

It will be the server owner's choice. It won't be a thing on official servers tho

It'll be like legacy, where it's a server option @zealous violet

And we really don't need global chat. iirc, it's being removed (from officials) really soon

[zealous violet]

ohhh okay. haha Had me freaked out for a moment there.

With servers with rules, you do need global chat. It's extremely useful too. because no matter how much the devs want a 'horror survival game' this type of gameplay will come down to socialization.

[left nacelle]

You don't need global chat tho. Local and group chat are still a thing. And the devs want the game to be able to function without rules

Once a lot of the game's systems are in, rules won't be nearly as necessary as they are now, so global chat will be useless

[zealous violet]

Hmm Im not too sure about that. You can make up rules for just about anything and ive seen severs do just that.

[barren zephyr]

Deino needs to be able to burrow in the side of a river or lake and make a little hidy hole nest area

[left nacelle]

Yeah, you can make up rules for anything, but that's not the intended way to play the game

You could make playing as a utah against the rules, but that doesn't mean anything lol

I think that should also apply to all ceratopsians except taco. Their heads would be their armor area

Especially considering it's been said that trike's head in particular will be bullet resistant

And maybe the small ones should also have the "minor" armor

Interesting

Also, don't upvote your own suggestion, it's kinda weird

Thx. Kinda scews the votes, ya know

[barren zephyr]

@golden iron i'll say it again, it doesn't have to be able to kill you to mess with you for ages, AND you can always be trusting the wrong person, you don't know. Like i've said before, if it's a two way interaction, the person who wants to pick you up will just kill you (if they plan to do that/troll) if you don't accept it. It's generally a bad idea, not to mention the stun, getting some scratches isn't going to stun something, they fight tooth and claw on the daily for food so that's a ridiculous notion. It'll always be a bad idea to give real people the option to carry around other players, as long as there's two players on the isle, at least one of them will want to mess with the others

[shut gorge]

Mercs shouldnt be apart of the main island... It should be a separate game mode, mercs will be sent into the isle land (Depends on what server) with missions they have to achieve without dying to the dino players running around and then extract. The more you succeed, the better weapons you get and the better things you find. Kinda like Escape from Tarkov. But I think this way, we will keep people happy and also maybe see a whole new player base!

[paper geyser]

not the plan

it's a survival game

not a raid/extract game

[barren zephyr]

horror survival game

[paper geyser]

^

mercs will likely be an option for servers though so don't worry

[barren zephyr]

Mercs (humans in general) are a big thing in the story/lore of the Isle

[paper geyser]

i usually make jokes about new players disliking humans but this is actually pretty funny

[barren zephyr]

yes

[celest furnace]

@left nacelle I like your apex small Dino idea, except instead of Ava being the apex, make it proto. How does that sound?

[low flame]

@deep jetty i know ive said this before but perks should reflect skills your dino learns, not physical/biological attributes

[deep jetty]

The physical changes are more like a side effect. The perks are like better swim speed or better stamina while on land

Or just any perks that would make you better suited for either land or water

[left nacelle]

Uhh, you might've tagged the wrong person, I don't remember making any suggestions like that

[celest furnace]

Oops sorry

@barren zephyrI like your apex small Dino idea, except instead of Ava being the apex, make it proto. How does that sound?

[wary sparrow]

Proto is way smaller than ava

[left nacelle]

No it isn't

[elder rivet]

ava is 620 and proto is 130 it's much smaller

[jovial sleet]

Ngl I wouldn't mind seeing hatz eventually in game and it being it's own animal. Nocturnal quetz doc should be coming later on today and I think its now unique in its abilites...basing it off my doc, hatz can actually be given something different.

[left nacelle]

Oh wait oops, I got mixed up with pachyrhino. My bad @wary sparrow

Yeah proto is tiny lol

[wary sparrow]

I have the feeling a bunch of people overestimate how big proto is

[left nacelle]

Yeah, since we have fossil evidence of it fighting velociraptor, and people think velo is the size of a utahraptor lol

Thanks JP

[celest furnace]

Really? I thought it would be bigger?? Isnt proto sheep sized?

[wary sparrow]

Not at all

[left nacelle]

Even ava is bigger than a sheep

Proto is the size of a small dog

[wary sparrow]

It is like a small dog

[celest furnace]

Oh wow!

I had no idea!

[left nacelle]

Proto is the pink one in this image

[celest furnace]

Dang that’s small!

I see now

[left nacelle]

Proto is one of the animals that'll likely be able to burrow too. So at least there's that

[celest furnace]

It’s hard to tell on their dinosaur preview, you can’t tell what’s big and what’s small

[left nacelle]

Yeah, no frame of reference. I remember back when pachy was first added years ago, and playing it made me realize just how big rex really is. Cause back then there was nothing to show how big the game's animals were

[celest furnace]

Ahhh XD

[wary sparrow]

Once humans are added it will be a lot easier to visualize how big each Dino is in game

[celest furnace]

Yup ^^

[wary sparrow]

Most dinos in legacy felt really small even though they were huge

[celest furnace]

That’s troo

[left nacelle]

Yeah. Especially cause region 2 had massive bushes everywhere

[deep jetty]

i cant wait to be compy, imagine looking up to see a giant rex above you

[celest furnace]

I just wanna be MAGY

Don’t yell at me for saying this

Because update 3 is exciting

But I’m really only hyped for the 4+ updates

[deep jetty]

i wont yell
i just dont like magy

[celest furnace]

Ty

[deep jetty]

im more hyped for update 8, customization & nesting will bring a lot of players back
plus my favorite skins

[celest furnace]

Deino and ptera are cool, but it’s more exciting where there’s even more dinos they can fight with

[deep jetty]

yea definitely

[celest furnace]

I’m excited for diets, poison (I’d like to be scared at night it’ll be fun) obvi nesting, I wanna have my own babas to migrate with, and dimorphism (as long as male and female are the same strength).

[wary sparrow]

Update 4-5 and 7 are the Updates I’m most excited for

[deep jetty]

im excited for dimorphism, if that means females will also have crest colors since theyll have physical differences instead

[hybrid matrix]

im only excited for update 3 bc of ptera
i cant wait to soar around the island :D

[wary sparrow]

Flying will be great

[paper geyser]

inb4 ptera has no stamina and it just becomes hopping simulator

[celest furnace]

Mine are 5, 6, 7 and 8

[celest furnace]

Ikr!!!

Especially the para crest, I wonder what they’re gonna do with trike and all that stuff. Will there be dimorphism for every dino?

[deep jetty]

im pretty sure itll be for every dino in small ways, like giga

[celest furnace]

Ahh

[deep jetty]

i just really want females to have crest colors

[celest furnace]

What about stego and Gallo?

[deep jetty]

stego already has plans or it, think females will have rounded plates

[celest furnace]

They might not have them though, males are known to have crest colors only to be realistic as “being impressive for mating”

[celest furnace]

Hmm...interesting

[deep jetty]

yea, i mean female crest colors dont have to be as vibrant, like females have all the crest colors males have, but theyre less vibrant

wait this is general feedback discussion
i thought i was in isle discussion

[celest furnace]

That makes sense

[celest furnace]

It’s better here, you can have an actual convo about dinos without 50 people spamming constantly and no one listening to you

[deep jetty]

true

[worn pumice]

i forgot who said how long update 4 is gonna take

but im gonna predict at least 2-4 months

heavily mechanic based updates take much longer as its all coding

[celest furnace]

Not bad

Makes sense

[worn pumice]

i believe the isle uses C++ for coding correct me if im wrong

[celest furnace]

Other than the perk system, the game is gonna be a tad boring since they’re adding only 1 dino. I’m not bothered by it and I don’t want them to change it, but we’re gonna have basically the same dinos throughout and after update 4

[worn pumice]

coding takes awhile

[celest furnace]

Ik it does

[worn pumice]

so this might be a very long update

[celest furnace]

Pls don’t say it’ll take for ever if we add another dino

Many people have already said that

All I’m saying is that there’s only 1 new dino to choose from for 6 months s

[worn pumice]

it wont take forever but it may make the update 2-3 weeks longer maybe more

[deep jetty]

what about adding compy? doesnt have to be playable in the update, but it could fit since its nothing new

[celest furnace]

That’s ok

We have troodon in 6

[worn pumice]

compy ai i believe is coming in gore update

hopefully

[celest furnace]

And we don’t want update 4 to last half a year

[celest furnace]

You mean diet update?

[deep jetty]

im hoping playable compy with the gore update, but i doubt itd come that quickly
being playable that is

[worn pumice]

gore update

[hybrid matrix]

@worldly meteor a lot of the time updates take so long because the devs literally cannot develop them faster

[celest furnace]

That’s number 5

[deep jetty]

theyre both in the same update

[worn pumice]

yea

[celest furnace]

Which is also diets 😂

[worn pumice]

its not diets its just in the same update

diets and gore are seperate systems

[hybrid matrix]

updates with a little less content is a better idea than just faster updates

[worn pumice]

although gore will tie into diets which is cool

[deep jetty]

theyre closely together tho, cant have a scavenger diet without gore

[worn pumice]

.

[deep jetty]

i was typing when you said that, didnt see it until after

[worn pumice]

yea its fine

i just replied that way cuz its faster lol

[celest furnace]

It’s called diets, but it includes BOTH gore and diets

[worn pumice]

as i said before

[worn pumice]

.

[celest furnace]

We’re saying the same thing

[worn pumice]

yea

lol

[celest furnace]

But it’s called diets, you said “it’s not diets”

[worn pumice]

gore and diets arent the same thing

they go together

and their in the same update

[celest furnace]

Ik they aren’t, but they are in the same update which is what I’m saying

[worn pumice]

yea

i already stated this b4 tho lol

[celest furnace]

lol

[worn pumice]

what do you think of the tail multiplier on stego?

[celest furnace]

?

[worn pumice]

the location dmg on the stegos tail is strange

[brave rampart]

Hm yes

Playcount is apparently dying

[worn pumice]

playercount is just staying on legacy thats all

[hybrid matrix]

yeah theyre right

[celest furnace]

This is 2020 lol

[hybrid matrix]

ive migrated to legacy while waiting for update 3

[brave rampart]

429+ is 2020?

No it isnt

Its 2021

January 2021

[worn pumice]

this is 2021 steam charts:

Last 30 Days 3,207.7 +64.2 +2.04% 4,960

[hybrid matrix]

omg

it went up 429 ppl and then it went up 64 ppl
PAIN

[worn pumice]

Month Avg. Players Gain % Gain Peak Players
Last 30 Days 3,207.7 +64.2 +2.04% 4,960

[celest furnace]

I wish I could stick to legacy but I am working for a server that is only on evrima. I’m not bothered by it I’m just starting to get bored of the same 6 dinos

[brave rampart]

Oh yeah definitely

[hybrid matrix]

same

i think its fine the way it is bc ppl can just go back and forth until evrima has enough content

[celest furnace]

May I ask what server you are working for?

[worn pumice]

tfw the isle gained 5000 players because of the recode lol

[celest furnace]

Ye

[brave rampart]

11000 players total in one day lol

[hybrid matrix]

no i dont work for a server im just bored of 6 dinos

[worn pumice]

lol

[celest furnace]

Ah i see

[hybrid matrix]

although i have been trying to start my own server since evrima dropped

[celest furnace]

Rlly?

[hybrid matrix]

i just dont have an actual server database

[paper geyser]

dying?

[celest furnace]

That’s kool!

[hybrid matrix]

ima try and save up for the parts to convert my old computer into a server

[worn pumice]

its been a stable 5k to 6k playerbase

[celest furnace]

Nice! What’s it called?

[hybrid matrix]

Isle of Eve

[worn pumice]

isnt it called the cult of derptah lol

[celest furnace]

That’s yearly, which is why you don’t see the terrible drop in players in 2019-2020

[paper geyser]

hasn't been 5k since december. It's 3-4k for the past two ish months

[celest furnace]

I’ll have to check it out!

[hybrid matrix]

no thats my channel server
isle of eve is the Isle server

[worn pumice]

ah

[celest furnace]

[worn pumice]

i still dont understand the stego tail multiplier tho

[celest furnace]

Does anyone know why most people prefer deino over ptera?

[hybrid matrix]

i think i might sell the parts in my old computer so i can try and buy the server parts

[worn pumice]

deino was teased 2-3 years ago

so everyone was waiting for it

[celest furnace]

What site are you using? I’d like to look at it if that’s ok

[paper geyser]

deino is a massive alligator. More appealing than a bird i'd say

[worn pumice]

also ppl just like crocs and gator more then a bird

[hybrid matrix]

big stronk croc vs squeaky pigeon lizard

[celest furnace]

Oooh I seee

[paper geyser]

steam charts. Just google "steam charts [game name]"

[celest furnace]

Lol

[celest furnace]

Ty!

[worn pumice]

bookmark steam charts

its useful

[paper geyser]

yeah i probably should

been using it a lot recently

[worn pumice]

its useful for data

im thinking of making a suggestion for stegos tail

its tail multiplier is over 1.0 which shouldnt be a thing

all tail hits are supposed to do very little dmg

[mild socket]

there was a suggestion about armor for dinosaurs like anky that could totally for for stego as well. Essentially if you a brand new fancy stego or anky taking damage was something you didn't know. If someone bit the anky on the hard shell it wouldn't feel a thing, but depending on the type of animal that bites it will wear down the armor. Going from 100% effectiveness down to 75% and then some. Until the armor cracks and now the armor is cracked and the flesh is revealed. that could work for stego and just over time if someone keeps biting the thagomizers they will take damage from biting asnd getting hit, but will also have a chance of wearing it down

[low flame]

wait why is compy coming as AI in the diet update but not as a playable in that same update?

[icy lion]

compy isnt in the diet update

[worn pumice]

[hexed badger]

We need dancing teno

[valid elk]

Would love to hear why someone disagrees instead of them going "Haha, no."

[jovial sleet]

someone in feedback said quetz should be able to pick up a allo...i-😐 ...

[paper oriole]

Thats like thinking an eagle should be picking up a great dane lol

Even worse actually since quetz has no grabbing claws and good luck gripping an allo size body with your beak

[jovial sleet]

ikr. it didn't make sense to me ngl. ..also there is other ways to make quetz viable and unique..he literally doesn't need to be made into a hatz clone..why can't both just be in the game with their own abilities..we have multiples of other animals so hatz isn't too far off...besides nocturnal quetz has his own unique abilities which will be presented today/tomorrow in feedback hopefully.

[paper oriole]

Yeah many better ways of making quetz work aside from having it pick up and fly away with animals 4-5 times its weight

[jovial sleet]

^ that plus im already kind of thinking about unique abilities/mechanics for hatz (el pyro had an idea for him too) ..but im going to wait to see what the devs do with quetz first.

Art by withoutrhythmandreason (nocturnal quetz)..putting this in the doc btw

[valid elk]

Anyone wanna tell me what they think?

[paper oriole]

crashed vehicles? they'd be pretty cool, would be neat to use one as a den on a small dino

[worn pumice]

actually

it would cool when mercs r a thing

where certain vehicles are broken but fixable

so u can fix it and use it

[paper oriole]

im still hoping for small dinos and tribals to be able to break into unattended merc vehicles and drive them uncontrollably, leaving a path of destruction until they crash and die

[left nacelle]

@turbid stratus If ptera could regain stam while gliding, it would never need to land except to eat and drink, and flying wouldn't require any skill. Since ptera doesn't regain stam while gliding, you need to be resourceful and be smart about how you use your stamina

[barren zephyr]

@jaunty quartz nice

[left nacelle]

They aren't in the discord anymore

[barren zephyr]

wait what? F

[left nacelle]

Idk if they left on their own or what lol

[barren zephyr]

i can still ping them though?

[left nacelle]

Yeah, the messages don't always get deleted right away. If you right click them, go to their profile and go to mutual servers, you can see whether their in the discord or not

[barren zephyr]

oh, L

i mean i think they might've just left, i call this game bad all the time and nothing happens

i talk shit cause i love it though, been with it for ages now

[left nacelle]

Yeah they probably did leave. Would explain why their messages weren't deleted

[paper oriole]

tbh they shouldn't even bother balancing compy to be viable, it was made to be AI, servers should be allowed to just let people play it for the sake of fucking around but that's basically all it's worth lol

[zenith onyx]

others might disagree with that

brachi IS supposed to be ai, but alot of people want it to be playable

same for creatures like campy

compy*

[paper oriole]

Difference is brachi isnt an ant that will be oneshot by velo trample lol

[zenith onyx]

its supposed to be a scavenger so its first instinct is to run anyway

but some want small creatures to be able to atleast defend themselves to the slightest ability

same reasoning as magy lovers wanting it to not get mauled by literally everything for no reason

[paper oriole]

Compy's size is a proper defense enough honestly, he will be awfully hard to see at his size

And magy was a mistake

[zenith onyx]

same could be said for troodon, but he's going to be a whole lot faster if he is made

compy won't have that

[paper oriole]

Troodon is huge compared to compy

[zenith onyx]

true

[paper oriole]

Like even compared to velo he'd hardly be a snack

[zenith onyx]

there's till the issue of killing it just for fun

magy faces that issue now

[paper oriole]

but magy also faces the issue of being a fatass who won't be able to hide nearly as easy as the speck that is compy

[zenith onyx]

I wonder if they could just make him completely toxic to bite or eat

then nothing would want to kill it

like a poison dart frog almost

[paper oriole]

compy will

1. probably spawn in already grown, so dying will only cost you your location
2. be able to hide in normal grass especially if it gets the skin system

[zenith onyx]

probs the first

[paper oriole]

both

also 3. imagine how fcking small compy's footprints are, have fun tracking that

he is already equipped to deter most spite killers and lose most of the extra determined ones

[zenith onyx]

lol

[paper oriole]

honestly just give compy the best blood/gore/body smelling range in the game and he's set

[zenith onyx]

yeah, but he doesn't have anything that brings attention to him though

Hypsi has cute calls, is cute in general, and be an irritation. Something to annoy other players with

[paper oriole]

ok, 15 compies are NOT touching an allo lol

even 35

a juvie carno would be a boss battle for 15 compies

something with no grow time shouldnt even be killing utahs

[dapper pulsar]

Give Compy roll

Then it's perfect.

[paper oriole]

speaking of calls, have they showcased compy's calls?

i imagine it'll just peep and hiss though like jp

[zenith onyx]

something with no growth time like hypsi shouldn't be able to super jump the way it can

[paper oriole]

hypsi is getting a grow time

[zenith onyx]

no its not

[paper oriole]

and it is slower than its predators

hypsi has a juvie model, it is getting a grow time

[zenith onyx]

hypsi is gettting a nest in growth time

that's the only reason

for nesting

[paper oriole]

hypsi was designed to be playable, compy was designed to clean gore as ai

[zenith onyx]

you'll still spawn in as a full adult, if your not nested in

if you nest in, then you get the juvi growth time

[paper oriole]

hypsi could also step on compy and kill it

[dapper pulsar]

Grass is one of compi's greatest weaknesses

Hypsi eats grass

[paper oriole]

yeah a blade of grass blowing in the breeze might smack the compy and kill it

[dapper pulsar]

This is what splits the 2

What's the max size a merc should be able to lift up and throttle the neck of?

[paper oriole]

maybe troodon

idk depends on how jacked our mercs are

[paper oriole]

moobs

[dapper pulsar]

I think he could do it to like

[paper oriole]

troodon seems like the max unless we want our mercs to be shonen protagonists

[dapper pulsar]

I have a new photo to edit Hatze into.

I cannot find Ava

Where is it

[icy lion]

between magy and megalania

[dapper pulsar]

That is an awful color.

[icy lion]

yup

[hushed shadow]

@echo bridge pretty sure you meant tail on that second to last one, right?

[echo bridge]

Thank you for pointing that out, yes

[hushed shadow]

alrighty, just figured it made more sense

[barren zephyr]

@torpid nest you'll most probably be able to change this in your settings like Volumetric clouds

[coral swan]

Whoever put the stuff on my feedback: it's toggleable so you can watch the new anims,and it doesnt bother you. But it bothers me so much I have to watch theese new anims compared to the old ones..and not just me, we memeing it with my friends who also have thousands of hours in the game~ and have multiple accs so probably this little change would be deserved for them ..

[azure wadi]

The old animations would look even worse because of the new speeds and those animations aren’t available anymore, along with being recoded everything had to be re rigged and animated so it’d just be more work and waste time

[coral swan]

no they can just import it, watch the really old utah model, it had the animations it has now, but in evrima the model doesn't change at all 😄 And well I'm not quite sure they would look worse cause they basically have similar speed, just with rapid fast leg moving~oh and they can speed up the old animations with a few clicks I believe

[azure wadi]

Those old animations are on a different rig and you’d have to try and merge them with the new animations that aren’t in legacy., such as raptor pounce, carno charge, getting knocked over, wallow, drag, carry etc. just throwing in and importing the old animations don’t work

Also some of the new speeds are so drastically different that speeding up the animation just looks wrong

[coral swan]

No those are the same rig, rig is a skeleton like you have in your body, would be quite bad if you had your bones at different places ^^ Sinnce those are animations attached to speed, no they can't rly fuck up the punce, nor anything, its just an animation, not function, not coding. They work they just wanted to refresh them, but it went wrong. Half of the playerbase likes them cause they don't actually care, and half of them don't even care about this game anymore, but still paid more for the more accounts. So yeah it would be doable if they would care~ look how nicely they remade carno sitting animation when everyone was telling them it looked bad~ same thing here

[azure wadi]

@barren zephyr idk how well a king protea would do in the tropics but damn I need that plant in games, reminds me of home

A map with fynbos is general would be

[barren zephyr]

It's sorta something for rocky coastal outcrops

I guess

A drier fynbos biome for the current map would be good

[azure wadi]

Fynbos is an underused biome in games, it’s so damn beautiful

[barren zephyr]

Yeah

South Africa has a bunch of nice plants that come from there

[azure wadi]

I know, I live there

A knysna like lagoon would be cool (ignore the houses)

[lofty pagoda]

@wild verge when deino scents underwater it does that

[wild verge]

oh

damn they really think of everything lol

[lofty pagoda]

https://youtu.be/dXbspllLloI?t=406

[barren zephyr]

@low flame So dilo should be weaker then utah and pachy? And what kind of logic is "A creature that specializes in night hunting and venom should not be stronger then a creature that relies on its physical abilities to fight."

but then say a creature that relies on physical abilities to fight (ava) shouldn't have a good chance against dilo?

Ava is literally a mini trike, if a dilo just runs into its face like a idiot it should get bodied.

[strange wave]

do keep in mind that dilo is larger and stronger than most of the other small tiers, the only one that could even hope to match it pound for pound in a fight is ava if we give it some killer abilities like the block and parry mechanic i suggested a while back

[paper geyser]

"utah was just as big as dilo and possibly deadlier" hmm i think we should leave this one alone

[barren zephyr]

I agree with you, chris was disagreeing with my post in GF about dilo and ava being a good amount stronger then most things in its tier.

[strange wave]

they arent much stronger though

a utah can still murder a dilo if it plays its card right

[worn pumice]

do pls keep in mind that while dilo is bigger then ava it only weighs 80 kg more then ava

now weight isnt everything but when such a small animal holds that much weight its not going to be weak

[barren zephyr]

yeah if it plays its cards right, my post was basically saying that in a straight up brawl, dilo (and ava) would body other smalls.

[strange wave]

yes, probably

[worn pumice]

its crazy how much ava weighs honestly

u would expect it to weigh like 300 kg max

[strange wave]

its dense

[worn pumice]

ava should be like the trike of the small tiers

[strange wave]

can use that to its advantage when its fighting lighter animals

[worn pumice]

imo

i mean its up to the devs if they wanna make ava run or fight dilos

[strange wave]

posting suggestion piece in isle discussion now

[silver blaze]

@low flame while what you say makes sense dilo will likely be a bit bigger than utah

and that will give it a big advantage

[wintry monolith]

dilo and utah are have the aprox same size but is utah probably used its claws and grapeling as its main wepon and dilo used its jaws and arms as it had strong jaws and long arms

[barren zephyr]

@barren zephyr Funny that we thought about this at the same time, i also come back to Evrima after a short break and i spend my evening yesterday raising 2 baby Carnos at the Beach Pond and i was thinking the same thing...
Juvi Tenos and Juvi Stegos kept drowning in the pond like if it was a bad place to spawn in, which is sad because it's my favourite hangout place.

definitely, i was gonna talk about it yesterday but i was tired af and forgot. thats weird though because the beach offers herbis an easier place to grow than anywhere else i'd say, bushes are rare but can spawn and you can just graze otherwise, and obviously there's that pond

[low flame]

ok but giving dilo night vision, venom AND physical strength over utah will just make the dilo a better utah. Thats just bad game design. Also many people dont realize how heavy real life utahraptors were.

[barren zephyr]

Dilo is already OP, shouldn't it just stick to have incredible night vision, decent bleed but not too OP and venom?

[hybrid matrix]

ok look

it shouldnt have a strong bite

however it should be heavier than utah

end of discussion

[celest furnace]

I agree, except for incredible night vision. Make it have great bleed, weak bite, and a decent amount of poison with a normal night vision imo.

[hybrid matrix]

normal nightvision defeats the point of being nocturnal

i mean legacy NV was definitely OP

[celest furnace]

Ok then make it better than normal night vision

[hybrid matrix]

but normal nv isnt enough

[celest furnace]

But it can’t be like legacy

[hybrid matrix]

yeah

i agree

legacy was too much

[celest furnace]

Because they were the only ones who could see a crap

[hybrid matrix]

ooh

wait

[low flame]

taking away dilos night vision would be like taking away utahs pounce

[barren zephyr]

which is why i think that they should make the current night a bit darker but improve it for nocturnals instead of this current pitch black nv bullshit

[low flame]

dilo IS a nocturnal hunter. Thats its niche.

[hybrid matrix]

since dilo is nocturnal it should just be able to see well at night without the need for NV

[celest furnace]

How about above average night vision, weak bite, good bleed and decent poison?

[hybrid matrix]

BUT

since its nocturnal

its blinded by daylight

forcing it to only come out at night

[celest furnace]

Yeah! Make it a tad weaker in the day

[hybrid matrix]

by blinded i mean like if u turn on NV and stare right at the sun in legacy

[paper geyser]

are you insane

[hybrid matrix]

u mean a debuff?

[celest furnace]

LOL

[paper geyser]

literally making a dinosaur blind during the day? What the actual fuck

[hybrid matrix]

not like black screen

[paper geyser]

you two should not have suggestion privileges

hand them over

[celest furnace]

Yes because if it’s nocturnal it specializes in the day so maybe it has weaker bleed and poison in the day and it get better at night

[hybrid matrix]

ew no
no debuffs

no debuffs

[celest furnace]

I don’t agree with blinding solo

[hybrid matrix]

kato lemme explain y

[celest furnace]

Dilo*

[celest furnace]

Why not?

[paper geyser]

please explain why you want to punish day time hunting, rather than encouraging night time hunting

[hybrid matrix]

actually thats exactly wut it is

dilo is nocturnal

[low flame]

the only change dilo needs is having its bleed reduced to more moderate amounts and giving it venom instead of insane bleed.

[barren zephyr]

^^^

[paper geyser]

yeah, so it should have good nv, end of story

[hybrid matrix]

if it gets blinded by sunlight then that encourages dilo players to only come out at night

[celest furnace]

I am encouraging night time by making it weaker by day. If we make night time stronger, then it’s still making day time weaker LOL

[paper geyser]

no.

[hybrid matrix]

no debuffs mashed

[paper geyser]

making the game borderline unplayable during day is the shittiest mechanic i've ever seen suggested

[celest furnace]

Then make night fighting better! No debuff LOL

It’s the same thing

[low flame]

with that logic every dino that isnt nocturnal should be weaker at night.

[celest furnace]

Not unplayable, just weaker

[hybrid matrix]

exactly

[hybrid matrix]

theyre talking about wut i said

[celest furnace]

Oooh

[hybrid matrix]

kato ur saying ur fine with dilos being around during the day when they r NOCTURNAL?

[celest furnace]

I thought they were talking about both of us

[hexed plank]

Agreed. I’d like to actually play the game. However, we could have dense foliage to block sunlight meant for dilos to hide in

[paper geyser]

it seems like you two are thinking way too hard about this. Dilo just needs good nv, good bleed, low damage, and somewhat low speed

[celest furnace]

and poison

[barren zephyr]

dilos slow run speed and general easily noticeable colour pattern already gives it a disadvantage to day hunting compared to the other creatures

[paper geyser]

making them blind during the day is fucking ridiculous

[celest furnace]

THANK YOU

[barren zephyr]

and you want for it to be essentially useless during the day time?

[celest furnace]

Never said that

Everyone is being too extreme

[hybrid matrix]

easily noticable???!

[celest furnace]

I’m just saying make it a tad weaker

[hybrid matrix]

wow its like u color ur dinos so that its wasy to find u

its not that hard to make a dilo very green

[barren zephyr]

they already have a disadvantage, a good player hunting in the day successfully is no problem, doesnt need any debuffs

[worn pumice]

so i hear dilo being blind in the day? what?

[barren zephyr]

wasnt talking to you

[celest furnace]

Jeez someone says make it a tad weaker in the day and they come to the conclusion that I want to “make it unplayable during the day” no. I never said that. But if it’s nocturnal then it’s gonna be stronger at night and THEREFORE not as strong during the day

[strange wave]

yes, lets just remove a dinos ability to function for half their playtime, outfucking standing idea

[paper geyser]

no, don't make anything weaker during a time of day, that's shit design

[worn pumice]

dont make it weaker during the day why do that lol

[celest furnace]

Ah ok

[barren zephyr]

the green is different to the green of the grass in both evrima and slightly in legacy, not to mention that they skin system wont come for two more updates

[worn pumice]

its already gonna try and hide from stuff during the day as it suits best at night

dont make it weaker during the day

[celest furnace]

THATS WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY LOL

That it’s better suited for night

[hybrid matrix]

ur also trying to say that it should get debuffed during the day

[worn pumice]

yea its better suited for night

[celest furnace]

Bruh

Do you just read what you want to read

[barren zephyr]

its easily discernable, the green is supposed to help it hide in the bushes, most pray will be out in the fields, so nighttime is the best time to hunt, but a good player should be able to hunt in the day

[celest furnace]

Or do you actually listen

[celest furnace]

This person gets it

[hybrid matrix]

u very clearly said that it should get debuffed during the day

[celest furnace]

No

[paper geyser]

Literally number one rule of creating fun gameplay is to reward wanted behavior, that'll inherently discourage unwanted behavior. Trying to shit on a person's game 50% of the time isn't how you do that

[barren zephyr]

it should have buffs/advantages in the nighttime, not debuffs in the daytime

[celest furnace]

Do you have a brain and eyes, I’m saying make it stronger at night

[hybrid matrix]

#general-feedback-discussion message

[celest furnace]

But saying debugging it during the day is the same

[hybrid matrix]

OH SO BUFF IT AT NIGHT

[worn pumice]

even tad weaker is uncessary imo since its already gonna try n hide during the day anyways

[hybrid matrix]

THATS THE SAME FUCKING THING

[celest furnace]

So that is where I’m coming from

[celest furnace]

EXACTLY

[hybrid matrix]

mashed if it gets a buff at night then its the same thing as debuffing it during the day

[celest furnace]

Makes sense

[celest furnace]

That’s what I’m saying

[barren zephyr]

you quite literally said "yeah! make it a tad weaker in the day"

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/423939730544132096/814894342949961768

[hybrid matrix]

BUT ITS UR IDEA

[celest furnace]

Why are you even still arguing about this

[worn pumice]

What have i stumbled into

[celest furnace]

I’m not gonna change my mind

[hybrid matrix]

alright look

[barren zephyr]

cause its a dumb idea lmao

[silver blaze]

dilo will not be nearly as agile as utah and cant pounce so i dont think it could be a better utah i think it will be stronger but a lot easier to hit than utahs

[celest furnace]

Not imo

[worn pumice]

Well firstly utah can run away from dilo

[barren zephyr]

you want a creature who already struggles to hunt at day compared to other dinos to be debuffed at daytime, bruh

[celest furnace]

Yup

Slightly debuffed

[hybrid matrix]

since theres gonna be caves, dilo can live in caves during the day, and come out at night, avoiding the blinding sunlight
obviously since caves arent gonna come until after dilo it wouldnt get blinded until caves after caves get added

[celest furnace]

Not completely useless

Which is why this isn’t a bug deal

Devs aren’t even gonna read this

[silver blaze]

if you guys are talking about dilo it doesnt need nerfs/buffs at certain times

[celest furnace]

So why does it matter to you

[worn pumice]

Can we not make dilo who is already weak in the daytime even weaker

[silver blaze]

just needs really good night vison at night

[worn pumice]

^

[hybrid matrix]

exactly

[barren zephyr]

[celest furnace]

I agree except for blinding dilos

[worn pumice]

its just needs to be very good at night thats all

[hybrid matrix]

or it just doesnt need nv and it can see at night without it

[worn pumice]

no debuffs or buffs

[hybrid matrix]

ive been arguing half of my argument

[celest furnace]

How is it already weak in the day if we want night vision to be just a tad over average

[hybrid matrix]

if dilo gets blinded by sunlight it can see perfectly fine at night without the need for night vision

[silver blaze]

the isle is also trying to be somewhat realistic despite dilo having venom its not something completly unrealistic for an animal to have unlike buffs and debuffs beacuse of what time it is

[celest furnace]

That’s too extreme

I’m approaching as a tad debuffed

[worn pumice]

its weaker in the day as its a pretty decent size easy to spot and isnt gonna be very fast so it needs the trees to hide

[celest furnace]

Therefore it might see things a bit darker in the day

[celest furnace]

Makes sense

[silver blaze]

dilo is not the fastes thing so it needs to hide during day and hunt at night simple not much needs to be done to it

[hybrid matrix]

btw by blinded i dont mean black screen i mean blindingly white

like if u turn on nv during the day

[celest furnace]

But I still think it needs a tad of a debuff, devs aren’t gonna change it to this so forget about it

[celest furnace]

But you’re not gonna want to do that if you’re gonna be blinded

[hybrid matrix]

[worn pumice]

how would u debuff it tho?

and why

[hybrid matrix]

it was an example of how it would look u nimbus

[celest furnace]

Making its poison weaker, and because it’ll become stronger at night

[worn pumice]

i think that venom belongs to troodon dilo has some other venom which is supposed to give the creature u bite like hallucinations

[celest furnace]

I don’t agree with that anyways “nimbus” and I’m not gonna convince you otherwise because it’s YOUR OPINION

[celest furnace]

Ah ok

[worn pumice]

at least thast what it says in the roapmap

[hybrid matrix]

cant believe ur getting visibly upset about this

[celest furnace]

Then nvm forget it, I’m NOT going to change my mind

[celest furnace]

Ty

[celest furnace]

Can’t believe you care so much that you’re swearing about this

[barren zephyr]

it already will be, it said in the roadmap, "which if inflicted after sunset will leave you wondering what's real... and what's not." and thats fine cause its a mechanic not a base stat, i think thats enough, that its venom is less potent in day

[hybrid matrix]

"swearing"

[celest furnace]

Oh so venom is only at night?

[worn pumice]

Heres what dilos bio says exactly from roapmap:
Significantly larger than the Troodon, the Dilophosaurus is a predator that favors nocturnal hunting. Equipped with exceptional night vision and a nasty venomous bite, which if inflicted after sunset will leave you wondering what's real... and what's not.

[barren zephyr]

This isn't even General-Feedbacks anymore, can you take your conversation back to #401464048610312195 please?

[worn pumice]

no

[hybrid matrix]

no because we are in fact discussing ideas

[celest furnace]

Swearing 😬

[celest furnace]

Oooh ok

So nvm the debuffed

[worn pumice]

~~fuck ~~

[celest furnace]

I thought venom was consistent

[barren zephyr]

idk, i think that the hallucinogen only works at night but thats good enough i think, its not like the venom photosynthesises

[hybrid matrix]

i wasnt upset i just didnt understand how u still didnt get that a debuff in the day is the same as a buff at night

[worn pumice]

wait i just realized this whole convo was for nothing becuz it only works at night anyways lmao

[hybrid matrix]

[celest furnace]

But general discussion doesn’t even talk about dinos, they don’t even listen to what you have to say

[worn pumice]

welp

[hybrid matrix]

SHHHhiiiiiiitttt

[celest furnace]

Just let me have my opinion, it doesn’t even matter because it’s not ruining your life or the game because it’s not gonna happen

[barren zephyr]

True, General discussion is all about insulting each other as much as possible.

[celest furnace]

Feel the same

[barren zephyr]

thats what i was trying to say, it already has general and mechanical disadvantages in day anyways lmao

[worn pumice]

honestly it doesnt even matter lmao it literally states that the venom is only going to take effect at night soooo

[celest furnace]

But I’ll try to tone it down, sorry about the arguments

[celest furnace]

I KNOW. I just realized that lmao

[hybrid matrix]

shoulda been clearer dude

[celest furnace]

😂

[silver blaze]

i mean your the one who jumped into this conversation trying to tell them what to do

[worn pumice]

well that was all for nothing

[hybrid matrix]

OOH
burn

[barren zephyr]

It's not you 😛 It's the flood of debate that started regarding the dilo, i mean no matter how much we debate about it, the Devs has the last word and they don't read us. So it's not even useful to try to talk about it that much

[celest furnace]

It’s not always someone else fault

[barren zephyr]

I was here before you started the Dilo spam, you don't start bothering me for once.

[celest furnace]

Exactly XD

[hybrid matrix]

except it is

[barren zephyr]

this is the internet, nothing is ever your fault

[celest furnace]

Maybe to someone who isn’t mature enough not to realize that

[worn pumice]

the internet is fun place right

[silver blaze]

wait i started dilo spam thats news to me

[hybrid matrix]

u havent been on the interent very long, have you

[barren zephyr]

definitely

[silver blaze]

also its called a disscusion not spam

[celest furnace]

Ok then it’s all your fault for starting this argument, how do you like that?

[celest furnace]

How does 9+ years sound

[worn pumice]

ima keep it real everytime i see u ur always fighting with someone i dont understand why

[barren zephyr]

Don't talk to me please. I don't wish to have any kind of conversation with you.

[hybrid matrix]

sure

[barren zephyr]

nah, not my fault

"nothing is ever your fault"

i literally just said that

[brittle ivy]

Do I need to start muting people

[worn pumice]

[celest furnace]

Yes

[hybrid matrix]

BU-BUT YOU WERE THE ONE WHO TALKED TO HIM LMFAO

hey sky

[brittle ivy]

Please see a return to discussion about one of the ideas and suggestions in #general-feedback

[worn pumice]

uh

[celest furnace]

Ok let’s change subjects

[worn pumice]

the new map?

islands?

[celest furnace]

Sure!

[barren zephyr]

nah nah, beaches

[worn pumice]

yeyeyeye

beaches islands sand

[barren zephyr]

i think me and Vayla are really onto something

[celest furnace]

I heard it was a be smaller, is it this update?

[hybrid matrix]

ooh i have a subject

[barren zephyr]

crabs, floods, cave hideouts

[worn pumice]

yea its gonna be smaller but the rivers are supposed to get wider

[celest furnace]

How will that work?

[worn pumice]

[celest furnace]

Nice!

I want droughts so people want to migrate

[worn pumice]

these are just small map changes tho for the rivers, in update 3 we will be getting a lot more stuff to the map

[hybrid matrix]

guys

[celest furnace]

Nice!

[hybrid matrix]

lets discuss why dippy should be added

[celest furnace]

?

[hybrid matrix]

diplodicus

[barren zephyr]

yes! instead of a creature that literally locks off half the map from being safe, there should be droughts that cause people to move away from and back to those big water sources

[celest furnace]

I think it should be added much later on

[hybrid matrix]

dippy?

[worn pumice]

dippy?

[hybrid matrix]

or droughts

[celest furnace]

I know sorry I meant “?” By what do you thing XD

[celest furnace]

Yesssss

[worn pumice]

i found "whale replaces dippy fossil"

[worn pumice]

oh

im so smart

[barren zephyr]

yeah, the bastards at Londons NHM got rid of the dippy skeleton for a boring ass whale

[worn pumice]

lmao

damn

[celest furnace]

I think dippy should be added with another apex because its so big

[worn pumice]

why even replace it with a whale lol you literally see whales today

anways diplo is great dino too add

[barren zephyr]

with alberta. ive suggested this before but unless people like it i wont put it in general feedback. was ignored last time

i think alberta could have a rip and tear, it can rip off and eat chunks of the things a lot heavier than it. a bit more damage, longer animation and vulnerable, but you can just get food without having to kill things if you find a sauropod that doesnt know you're coming. idk i just like that one scene from Planet Dinosaur

[celest furnace]

Later though, it’s weird to add such a huge Dino so early

[hybrid matrix]

well wut niche would it have?

elephant?

[worn pumice]

would diplo be considered an apex? or like pseudo apex?

[celest furnace]

Hmm, idk Alberto is too much like acro and Rex

[hybrid matrix]

its taller than a rex, no?

[celest furnace]

Apex, it’s so big

[celest furnace]

Yes

[worn pumice]

ok

[celest furnace]

It is

[celest furnace]

Any sauropod that’s not magy is probs apex

[worn pumice]

true

actually

baja

[celest furnace]

Yeah

[worn pumice]

baja would be either mid tier or pseudo apex

[hybrid matrix]

this is the template that i used for my iguanodon suggestion

[celest furnace]

Ok other than magy and Baja sauropods are gonna be apex

[hybrid matrix]

Reasons to add Iguanodon:
Elk niche
Can switch from quad to biped, allowing it a range of attacks, and a large diet
Literally no reason to not add it
It can't handle anything larger than it alone and therefore must group with other members of its species
Roughly 4 3/4 hour grow time
Weighs roughly 4.5 tons
Health TBD
Speed is roughly 37 kph
Bipedal left click is punch and Bipedal right click is thumb hook
Quadropedal left click is bite and Quadropedal right click is thumb thrust
Punch - 100 N no bleed 3 attacks per second
Hook - 150 N 10 bleed 2 attacks per second
Bite - 75 N no bleed 2 attacks per second
Thrust - 500 N 20 bleed 1 attack per 3 seconds

[worn pumice]

text wall

[celest furnace]

Yeh I agree on adding iggy

[hybrid matrix]

niche
special ability
reason not to add it
weakness
stats
attacks

[worn pumice]

iggy would be cool honestly

[barren zephyr]

there, i updated the text, should made a new message but oh well

[celest furnace]

Why do we need to remove Maia tho

[hybrid matrix]

guys wut niche would dippy have

[celest furnace]

It’s not that bad

[worn pumice]

i doubt maia is gonna be removed devs said all old dino are coming back

pue tho

[celest furnace]

Ahh

Cool

[celest furnace]

Pue was so slow

[hybrid matrix]

"all" fokin lies

[worn pumice]

i kind of wish they kept with pue its very unused in any media

[celest furnace]

And boring cuz it’s the only of its kind most of the time

Troo

[barren zephyr]

i think alberta could have a rip and tear, it can rip off and eat chunks of the things a lot heavier than it. a bit more damage, longer animation and vulnerable, but you can just get food without having to kill things if you find a sauropod that doesnt know you're coming. idk i just like that one scene from Planet Dinosaur

[hybrid matrix]

unlike stinky brachi

[worn pumice]

don

[hybrid matrix]

guys!

dippy niche

go

name a niche

for dippy

now

right now

[worn pumice]

pounce

wait

[hybrid matrix]

or ima eat ur spleens

[celest furnace]

Mammoth niche

[barren zephyr]

...

[hybrid matrix]

mammoth? tell me more

[celest furnace]

It’s...big????

[hybrid matrix]

not good enough

[celest furnace]

And exctinct

[hybrid matrix]

[celest furnace]

And it’s gonna be massive

And roam the lands

[urban flax]

Snail niche
Goes out when it rains
Then dies

[hybrid matrix]

wut role does it play in the ecosystem

[celest furnace]

Aaand it’ll be hunted by rexs and whatnot

[worn pumice]

[celest furnace]

Oh lmao

[hybrid matrix]

yeah

[worn pumice]

wait

[hybrid matrix]

like wut does it eat

[celest furnace]

Erm, it plays giraffe

[urban flax]

Salad

[celest furnace]

It eats

And rests

And eats

[hybrid matrix]

wut does it worry about

ok

most importantly

[celest furnace]

It worries about

[hybrid matrix]

HOW DOES IT BEHAVE

[celest furnace]

Being caught off guard

[urban flax]

But it cannot use salt licks otherwise its organs will explode

[celest furnace]

Passifist

[hybrid matrix]

no i mean wut animal does it behave like

[worn pumice]

so hard to give niches to sauropods

their so similar

[urban flax]

It moves, rather slowly
And can't fucking see more than 5 centimeters in frront of itself

[celest furnace]

Erm

A

[barren zephyr]

second time my alberta idea was ignored completely

[hybrid matrix]

does it behave like an elephant? does it behave like a hippo? whale? gorilla?

[celest furnace]

It behaves like a giraffe, bar cause they are Kalm

[urban flax]

Ripping parts of ana animal and eating it alive is a big no because it leads to abuse

[worn pumice]

my dilo/utah/ava suggestion

[celest furnace]

I’m sowwy 🥺

[hybrid matrix]

giraffes are not calm

[celest furnace]

WHALE, it is kalm and eats a lot

[barren zephyr]

@barren zephyr close is relative.

[hybrid matrix]

also giraffes kick ass

[hybrid matrix]

it lives in the depths of the sea?

[celest furnace]

Whale

[hybrid matrix]

im kidding

[celest furnace]

Bruh you asked how it behaves

Not where it lives

[worn pumice]

apprently giraffe's have been known to decapitate lions with their kicks but anyways

[celest furnace]

Ah lol

[hybrid matrix]

anyway i feel like brachi is giraffe

[worn pumice]

what would dippy be good at

[celest furnace]

😳

[hybrid matrix]

and cama is elephant

[celest furnace]

Troo

[worn pumice]

don

[hybrid matrix]

so dippy could be indian elephant

[celest furnace]

Eating

[barren zephyr]

the animals would be so large it'd barely hurt them, and they'd be vulnerable to attack from the rest of the herd and the creatures tail

[celest furnace]

Troo

[celest furnace]

Ah i agrée

[hybrid matrix]

cama is african elephant
dippy is indian elephant

[celest furnace]

I prefer whale tho

[celest furnace]

Cool 👍🏼

[worn pumice]

make dippy the fastest apex sauropod?

[hybrid matrix]

oh so it eats microorganisms?

[urban flax]

The problem is that a player would willingly let alberto feed on it to grow it up

[barren zephyr]

What

[urban flax]

It's been talked abut many times before

[celest furnace]

Yes

Which are the vélos

It nibbles on velos

[barren zephyr]

You said update 3 is close. Close is relative.

[hybrid matrix]

guys be serious

[celest furnace]

It’s all just proportional

[hybrid matrix]

i say indian elephant niche

[celest furnace]

LOL

[urban flax]

Maybe we just can't find a niche for diplo ?

[celest furnace]

Yes

[hybrid matrix]

ok fine

its just a big fucking creature niche

[celest furnace]

Next subject XD

[barren zephyr]

i can see that, there's a similar issue with it as the carrying babies things. there will always be mix packing i guess, tryna think of a good way to do this now

[urban flax]

Already taken by brachi, sadly

[hybrid matrix]

ok

[celest furnace]

no offense

[hybrid matrix]

special ability

[celest furnace]

Agreed

I’m

Let’s see

[hybrid matrix]

wut special ability does dippy have that is unique to dippy

[celest furnace]

Let me think

It can lay in water

[urban flax]

Well nothing, its the most basic sauropod

Unless you give it some fictional ability

[celest furnace]

Like it can walk through water with ease

[hybrid matrix]

there could be types of trees that it can knock over and then eat

[celest furnace]

XD lol

[hybrid matrix]

like the trees would be rlly tall and theyd be at the edges of forests

[barren zephyr]

Alright, new Feedback has been posted, can you guys focus on the few last feedbacks? Otherwise please go back to Isle-Discussion.

[celest furnace]

It’s kind of too oddly shaped for that

[hybrid matrix]

and the dippy could rear up and then slam down on the tree and eat the leaves or fruits

[celest furnace]

My last point still stands, I do apologize though

[hybrid matrix]

dude we are discussing a suggestion for a dino

we are allowed to do that here

[urban flax]

Well this channel is for discussing feedback and suggestions, not for discussing precisely the last post in general feedback

[hybrid matrix]

besides theres no slowmode here

[hybrid matrix]

exactly

ok well wut is the dippy ability

[celest furnace]

Ye

[celest furnace]

Swimming

It can swiiim

Like a whalllleeee

[hybrid matrix]

oh so it cant rear up on its hind legs but it can swim?

[urban flax]

It can dislocate its vertebrae to reach futher with its neck
Like cats

[hybrid matrix]

do cats seriously do that?

shit im dumd

[celest furnace]

It’s so big it just walks in the water

[hybrid matrix]

see how dumb i am i cant even spell it

[urban flax]

Yes, did you ever wonder why cats elongate hen you hold them by the neck ?

[hybrid matrix]

no

[celest furnace]

Yeshhh

[hybrid matrix]

i dont believe u

[celest furnace]

LOL I’m jk

[hybrid matrix]

alright look be serious or we'll never get this done

special ability

[celest furnace]

What if I don’t want to get this done because dippy hasn’t even been drawn completely yet

[urban flax]

tbh I don't like adding diplo to the Isle
I don't like most new dino suggestions

If it's not already planned, that's because it doesn't have a set niche/abilities.

[celest furnace]

Same. I mean I prefer some new dinos but people don’t care for my suggestions so I try to keep to myself

[hybrid matrix]

bubulblu
not even this beauty of a suggestion?
#general-feedback message

i made that using the same format im trying to use here

[celest furnace]

Iggy is the exception

Because you worked hard on it

[hybrid matrix]

and thats wut im trying to do here

[celest furnace]

But dippy doesn’t seem necessary yet