#general-feedback-discussion
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When the customization system comes out maybe we'll have feathered and featherless options
Imagine how horrifying Theri would look without feathers
perfect uncomfortable material
Some animals won't have featherless version they've said. Like ovi won't have a featherless version for example
is it just me or does the lighting look more bland and less intense than it did before the hotfix
like this
compared to this
same place, about the same time, but the lighting looks dramatically different
also same settings
I like old lighting 
Hopefully it’s just a bug or something and they’ll fix it soon
Delet virgin Magy, replace with chad Baja
delete the isle and become god
Titano is WAAAAAY down the line
Told ya people would be upset with my idea
So delay the update super long so you can get your snake with the skin update?
@barren zephyr hear us out. not only is titanoboa not even started yet, it's more closely related to dully colored pythons and anacondas. it's not gonna have bright color options, trust me
Well I mean we never knew we would get things like kentro or proto until recently and then the next roadmap update kentro is added
Titan is a bitch to animate compared to those
they'll most likely look like this
titano is much more complex compared to proto and kentro
Very true, I’m just saying it would work well for the update
Snakes in games are a nightmare, I would rather see that thing after we have a lot more of the roster
why though? i explained that it wont have bright colors
Instead of putting it in when we just barely have the same amount of playables as Legacy survival
They already said it will be way later down the line
farther than mercs maybe
Eh, mercs might not be that far. Maybe.
pretty sure a dev said they're coming sometime in 2021 most likely
i think filipe said they wanted them sometime later 2021 i think? dont remember tho since ive been gone a while
Wait how? Composted to my update drop prediction chart that would have to be its own update and I only expect update 6 to be out this year
they probably want to silent bomb it on us if they aren't putting it on the roadmap
either that or things changed
This is my prediction to the update drops
Update 3: feb
Update 4: April
Update5:July
Update 6: October
Update 7: feb 2022
Update 8: March 2022
Probably something they are working on in the background
He shoulda made elder rex a barrel body like sue ): his head look cool at least
yeah the head is cool
In general Isle’s rex doesn't have enough bulk so it's likely a bit more than just the angle
More so talking about the head itself, I definitely feel like Rex should be bulkier with more mass
A proper chunker
I'd say update 5 would drop sooner as it both doesn't add completely new playstyles nor it adds a shitload of stuff
Well the reason is because they have to make all the models for the gore, whatever else they are doing with it, make all the diets which won’t take too long and the. Two Dino’s to animate, which animation on its own is awhile
the truly bad thing about new lighting is the early nighttime/late nighttime, it just looks horrible
That too
The clouds look like endless black voids
The day lighting is just really off putting
I miss the bright daytime light
remember this is a placeholder tho
they are improving it in the night terrors update
unfortunately though, that wont be for awhile
I want to pet and hug it
Are people complaining about crane austro again?
And the head crest?
Pick one to bitch about, come on man it's 10 in the night
the brow crest seems to be a plausable creative liberty but his anatomy is fucked
the sue model or the isle rex @paper oriole
the austro
the brows arent too far fetched but the dude looks emaciated and off balance af
@keen sparrow I know I'm super late to this, but in those screenshots, were you on the same server in both pictures? Cause apparently server owners can adjust brightness, so you could've been on two different servers with different settings
Yea I’m almost positive those were both nycta
But I’ll check again tomorrow
I didn’t know that tho
@deep jetty You're not gonna become an elder if you don't follow the appropiate diet
im meaning if you are able to get to elder, it should be a choice rather than always happen (though it can be a server option)
i like to keep my dino at full food & water & make sure i have the right things, but i dont want to have to lose my dino because of it
Well, I don't think it's going to be forced onto the player anyway. Devs want elders to be a rare sight.
If i remember correctly you can become an Elder only if you follow certain rules
Like if you follow the right diet, you do all the things your "dino profile" requires
So if you do not want elder just play without following this criteria
No I think u just have to live long enough
Diets just impact ur stats but it would be cool to have different size increase or decrease depending on how good u feed urself
For elder model. But I doubt it's gonna be this detailed
Devs actually stated that it WILL be linked to diets so that you don't become one just by living long enough.
mhm
The only way you'd even have a chance of getting an elder is by choosing specific perks while also having a specific diet
perhaps even if you don't achieve the specific perks you become an elder, just a much worse one
and without the prestige upon death
That would be kinda bad
It's like "You didn't do everything as intended for your dino's playstyle, now die"
That would kinda ruin the point of having different perk paths for each dino
why not
why would that be a bad idea
well then i guess people absolutely love fps drops
My FPS is fine when I go over there 
which one of these are you talking about? the north one or the south one? because i guess people are misunderstanding which swamp i'm talking about since there's 2 swamps in the southeast
Oh didn't know that diets are bound to elders, cool!
I don’t really have any FPS drops unless I’m around a lot of other people
but i and many others have
I mean your suggestion is still getting down voted so we shall see :D
look at my FPS rate when i'm not looking at the swamp, at 40-50
now when i'm gradually looking at it, 30-40
and then looking at the immense wall of trees
@dapper terrace probably the best suggestion I’ve seen for elders thank you for sharing
Did they remove the public QA branch? just wondering
@elder rivet the low fps is because of un-optimized water. water reflection takes a huge hit on the fps atleast in unreal and requires a lot of optimizing
Upsizing them would make them looks pretty stupid, not only would you have a giant head running around(cera) and you would have something deserving of 2 tons weight(magy), so we defenitely need a downsize for them
@barren zephyr wait what do you mean we know they will get downsized?
Filipe confirmed they’re getting a downsize eventually


when
@barren zephyr isn't that already female tenonto skin?
@open sedge titanosaurs are known to be mostly terrestrial nontheless
an elephant would be a good comparision
Well was beipiao aquatic irl? Was spino terrestrial irl? the isle cares not
yeah, but aquatic sauropods is a dated idea
So is long leg spino 
unless you want to follow the footsteps of old fashioned Paleoartists like Charles R Knight, then go with modern science
Spino alone destroys any idea of following up to date paleo accuracy
I like the idea of aquatic sauropods, hope we discover one that was actually like that
it is a good piece of art, but very dated
Also dated 
Dont care about accuracy in The Isle, gimme cool interesting animals
but less dated
Still very well known as outdated
the aquatic sauropod hypothesis has been debunked several decades ago
Was beipiao ever thought to be aquatic?
we have had terrestrial sauropods in paleoart for something like 60 years or so
It is fictional, but I'm not bothered by it
@barren zephyr I think you don't quite understand my point. Did you read the article in my sources? Some species of titanosaurs specifically had adaptations that suggested an amphibious lifestyle similar to a hippopotamus
Or at least the adaptations suggested they lived in swampy habitats
they did live on floodplains
but they mostly fed on coniferous vegetation like araucarias
And there weren't araucarias and other trees in swamps?
well yeah fair enough
This is more plausible and supported than many other dino abilities in the Isle, such as venomous Troodon, night-vision Dilo, spitting Hypsi, aquatic Beipi, and tree-climbing Herrera
I don't see why it shouldn't be added
Hopefully treeclimbing will go into more detail and not just jump and high chance of miss
Yup
I think they should've given tree climbing up some kind of dromaeosaur instead, since some studies have suggested they the curvature of their claws would've enabled them to climb trees
Yeah I'm not sure about this climbing Herrera thing
Oh well
Yep
I definitely don't mind a sauropod that would live in swampy or floodplain areas but I'm not sure of the current roster would fit that theme.
Magyarosaurus is probably closet but Tenonto already has this niche.
Meanwhile Camara and Brachiosaurus are macronians I don't think exactly fit either. Brachio I think is thought to actually live in upland environments and Camara in arid.
Maybe the Diplodocid they want to add? Diplodocids are some of the most common sauropods in the Morrison, outside of Cama, and they are thought to live in floodplains. Although they don't posses the flexible backs of titanosaurs so...
Magy would just be free deino kos bait if it went semiaquatic anyway
@barren zephyr where was it confirmed they were 30% oversized?
The point of the titanosaur is that it's mostly too big to be bothered by deino
Teno is 20% oversized and Carni is 33% oversized last time I checked
Ok but who confirmed it?
it’s based on their irl weighs vs their ig weighs
Tenonto, for example is 1600kg irl and 2000kg in game. That’s a 20% oversize.
@ashen elm I don't think a diplodocid would fit the role. They're very narrow and long. Titanosaurs are characteristically wide, which would give them greater stability in the water. Think of a turtle
@ashen elm but I'm not saying they shouldn't add a diplodocid, they definitely should. Perhaps it could be a big low-browser, like feeding on ferns and cycads in more open woodlands
I think they could probably fit both an apatosaurine and a diplodocine in
I agree that was their role in real life, but unless you add a new titanosaur there isn't any sauropod on the roster that could fit what you are proposing. I don't think Cama or Brachi fit either, which is why I saying the Diplodocid would fit closet to what you saying since they did live in that environment.
That's what I'm saying, add a new titanosaur for the special role
Perhaps Savannasaurus or Saltasaurus
Or maybe Andesaurus
Eh... the other problem is that both would need to able to survive in an environment with a large crocodile like Deinosuchus. Which I don't see either doing very well
Well Savannasaurus is pretty big
Not big enough. It's around maybe 7-8 tons
Well then Andesaurus or Futalongkosaurus
They could actually use almost any titanosaur as long as it was wide enough
@barren zephyr did a dev confirm anything?
I think past 1.0 that is a possibility but remember there is already 50 plus dinosaurs planned. I don't see them adding anything to the roster anytime soon.
True, they'll probably focus on implementing the planned ones before thinking of adding new ones
Who knows, maybe they've already planned to add an amphibious titanosaur. The article that first suggested the theory came out May of last year
why does a dev need to confirm it? it's shown in the character menu how much teno weighs. it's definitely oversized
^
The question was if devs confirmed anything. I think they never really stated to make all dinos real life sized
Translation: you have no proof that the devs acknowledged Carno and Tenonto sizes
We definitely know they don't aim for realism, that's a fact
^
Who knows what they do in the future. I personally like bigger teno but hey. Idk what devs really plan. Why would they change sizes if they could just go for real sizes in the first place?
They stated in the recent devblog and past comments that their dinos are monsterfied
The reason why devs are needed to confirm it is because the community is filled with people who spread misinformation, intentionally or not, or who frankly have no idea what they’re talking about and unfortunately those same people pass off their bullshit as gospel despite the fact that, no it isn’t and they are just as clueless as everybody else
@dense wagon
Nah imo devs can leave some mystery. Who gives a shit what some nobody says. Just don't believe it. Check ur facts
Which is exactly what @barren zephyr was doing
Now that we know Carnotaurus and Tenontosaurus are gonna eventually be downsized to their real life estimates, please consider making this move in Update 5 the latest. The idea of having to balance Magy and Cera to coexist with a 33+% oversized Tenonto and Carno is not something good unless you upsize them aswell...
Despite the fact that the devs have said nothing about doing any of that
Or even acknowledged that
Filipe confirmed they’re getting a downsize at some point Ato, both Tenonto and Carno
Officially or just in discussion?
Wdym?
Cause that's the same with vague etas
I’ll have to ask Punch about that
What they aim for may not happen really is what I mean. I mean maybe but maybe not
So do you actually have proof?
In the end it doesn't really matter since these things can all be subject to change as soon as mods are supported
Ppl can get their perfect sizes if they want. I think devs aim for a stable game experience more than for realism
Yes I do. I’m trying to find the source
I checked. teno weighs about 1.5 imperial tons, which is 1500-1600 kg.
does anyone know its length in game?
Imperial ton is less than a metric one. 1.5 imperial tons is therefore slightly less than 1500kg.
@sonic cloud LMAO LOOK AT THE NEW SS
Carnotaurus is definitely oversized in the game - who knows if it's eventually getting a downsize but it seems to be about 1/3 bigger than the real animal. If real life Carnotaurus was so large it would likely weigh close to 3 metric tonnes(around the size of the largest Allosaurs).
As for Tenonto it's also too big but tbh I would be more fine with it staying at this size than I would with Carno.
Idk if the devs confirmed either is getting smaller, I remember Filipe saying at one point that they are going to stay at their current sizes.
look phase 2
mate, they just confirmed it in general, carno is smaller
yes this is right
Oh, you mean that screen in phase 2?
yeee
they just downsized it lmao
Not really....
Actually I think Teno is getting smaller as well
Tenonto looks WAY smaller
tenonto might still need some downsizing, but carno is 
Agreed Carno should be this size.
deino looks more like the apex of the roster
and teno looks like a small tier herbivore brawler
well not small tier, slightly above
tenoto and carno still look huge
that screenshot was taken as the carno is leaning right down so it looks a lot shorter
It can be seen from the birds eye view that they are smaller - Carno wasn't this small when compared to Deino before
i thought deino got an upsize?
No, this is Deino after the upsize in the second picture
Did they say anything about how thermals are gonna work when pteras released?
Centrosaurus is pretty hot but we have like 6 ceratopsians planned i think(?) already
He's also only about half a meter or a meter longer than diablo so he'd work better as a skin
it's pachyrhino, dibble, trike, taco and dibble that are planned
we have too much of them
and proto
and ava
and taco i would barely count
Taco, ava, proto, diablo, styraco, pachy, trike
kentro ceratopsian
kentro pachy 
pachyrhino
Woop meant styraco
styraco is hypest
idk if styraco is confirmed yet but yeah that would be the next most likely ceratopsian
Ceratopsians are cool as fuck but i think another group deserves more additions if anything new comes to the herbi roster
Yeah, we already have 5 planned ceratopsians
well 7 speculatively which is even more of a bulked ceratopsian roster lol
I assume one of them is styracosaurus, but what's the 7th?
taco counts
1.taco 2.proto 3.ava 4.diablo 5.styraco 6.pachy 7.trike
Oh yeah, so 6 confirst ceratopsians
i mean, that tail is supposed to be long. doesn't mean it's as heavy
Okay yeah so styraco is the only one that isn't hard confirmed then
think the stegosaurs, iguanadonts or ankylosaurs could use a bit of loving if something new gets added because ceratopsians already got a full set for every tier lol

iguanodon
not only in the tiers, they have runners, bleeders, bonebreakers and (probably)tank
iguanadon would be sexy af
ngl iguanodon feels like the most obvious inclusion ever but 
I want more pterosaurs personally. But there isn't as much as you can do with them since they're pretty much all really fragile on the ground
europejara and pterodaustro would be hot
We also don't have any birds yet. Which is where pela comes in
tbf stegosaurs and ankylosaurs are basiucally the same group so we couls say we already have 4
they are kinda separate tho still
but counting anky and stego together would be like counting pachys with ceratopsians together so idk
would be neat to eventualy get a mid tier ankylo/nodo and stegosaurid eventually
Yall are forgetting the type of animal we need the most: Mammals 
mammoths
By that emote I can tell you are also a person of culture
add dire wolves to the isle guis 
re add the wolf mod
make them oneshot spinos guis
we already have anky
poor anky got desecrated ),:
Took me a second to get that lol
and teno being a horse+dog+kangaroo
I like the new anky honestly. A lot of people seemed to like it too until recently
i hated it since the first concept art was like tf is this lmao
they turned it into a totally new animal pretty much
I think it's neat. it gives me armadillo vibes
70% rihno
30% zuul
name: AnKyLoSaUrUs
looks like they sacrificed armour for mobility but there is no way that bastard can outrun its predators still
Well all the animals in the game are technically new animals. They're made by humans. They aren't even really dinosaurs
is more like an armadillo that gives vague ankky vibes
so they basically just took a bunch of his armour away for ??? purposes
anky is one of the cases where i wish they stuck to their jp obsession
JP anky 
at least jp anky is conceptually a anky
jp anky at least looks like he'd be hard to damage
I don't have much of a say in this conversation tho. I'm not a big anky fan. They could remove it and I wouldn't be upset lol
as subpar as their anky is it gives off way mor eof the "walking fortress" vibes the animal should have
But the animal in the game won't be a "walking fortress" .....at all lol
yeah which is lame
It's not gonna have the same niche as irl
thats the reason you like anky design because you never cared about anky in first place, anky fans are rightfully pissed for getting this thing
im not blaming you, to be claer
everyone has their tastes
i heard they ruined anky because they didn't want to animate it with its original anatomy which i hope isn't the reason because that would suck to ruin a great dino because of that lol
Well it's anatomy does make it hard to animate
looks at minmi with the same anatomy and even shorter legs
Giving it a soft-looking "shell" would allow its body to bend more
ikr if they can animate minmi they can do a better anky
the only legit reason is to spit back againts the whole anky bad drama, they have allways been spiteful
Plus, we haven't seen it in game yet. Giving it color and stuff could make it look 10x better
flashbacks to para being shit just out of spite
the anatomy cant be fixed by some makeup
in spain we have a say
even if the monkey dress with silk its still a monkey
i'd thought on them ruining anky out of spite too lol wouldnt be surprised tbh bias seeps through sometimes with almost any game
the only cool thing about new anky is its tail honestly
these devs legit have a vendetta against armored herbivores, just look at tenon being a better fighter in envrima than pachy (a weaponized/armored herbi) in legacy
they have a bias against herbis in general i feel
funniest part is that its a zuul tail not anky's
not at all
the tail looks better armorued than its body tho lmao
oh yeah para got rekt hard in legacy i hope they dont make it a free giga snack in ev
magy is just another sign of herbi hate tho lol
like the want flee focused herbis to fight as well as weaponized herbis but weaponized herbis will never run as fast as fleeing herbis
let's give the worst possible species as the small end sauropod
more like defenseless herbi bias
i want to know the conversation that went down in the decision to add magy
they want magy to survive allo instead of simply picking salta, they simply prefer defenseless herbis but at the same time they want thos edefenseless herbis to be as strong as weaponized herbis
just a quick google search for dwarf sauropod
i've still yet to see how they plan on making magy able to survive an allo attack
lol i did that before magy is the first result it's actually hilarious
so many better small sauropods but they went with island quarantined hatz food
one thing is picking magy over bajada, this shows shit taste
another thing is not even considering bajada, this shows their "exhaustive" selection method
baja would have been cool and they can't allow herbivores to have something as cool as porcupine mohawk sauropod
being pterosaur food is embarrasing
only existing because you were isolated on an island is embarrassing
is paradojic, they dont want herbis to look like they are strong but they actually want herbis to be strong, shown by kissen considering magy beating allo
also both hatz and balaur who lived on the island with magy are better oprions as playables
what has been shown suggesting magy beating allo, it is apparently supposedly on par with cerato who is tiny
i remember back when magy was a new thing
kissen said "it's not going to be slow or weak" but when we got the running reels for magy and allo and allo is like twice magy's speed lmao
i may be making it up, but if i remember correctly it was said
the only thing i remember is kissen telling jaffad it wasn't going to be slow or weak, one of those two is already pretty much debunked
then i saw that it'll ... taste bad? idk if that's still a thing but good luck using that as a defense in the isle lol
the thing withc sauropods is as they arent madwe fro running and only walking they get faster the bigger they are unlike theropods that ecrease speed at bigger sizes
salta would be both fastre and stronger
almost any other sauropod would have been better
legit brachi is faster than magy
plateosaurus, a prosauropod is better equipped than magy
with sauropods the only factor to speed is leg legnth
and magy's isn't all that impressive
luckyly one of my fave carnis is cerato
yeah cera is a little beast, probably gonna kill a lot of magys
and im allways agaisnt masskilling myself if im not hungry but magy will be an exception
i might just play cera to eat as many magys as i can
but even as an herbi i will kfs them
just play carno, we allways talk about allo, but carno is even worse for magy
even faster
and still stronger than magy
carno rams into magy and just breaks every rib as it slams to the ground. perfectly balanced, as it should be
"but magy will topple carno"
magy will secretly weight 6,000lb guis
good talk tho cya
Magy genocide is not why you should play Cerato
yes it is
yes it is
Cerato is for the refined "pick off people who have finally become an adult magy" player.
who says i gotta let them grow up
me
it is only merciful to end their suffering early in life
and also when i can eat the whole body
they'll come back if you do that
let them come
You need to crush their spirits to end Magy
Also I'm pretty sure anything could eat a baby Magy
It's not that much poison
that's what i can do when im an herbi, protect young magys and then kill them when they reach adult
w h e e z e
because ark
It also did it while it was downloading
that's ark for you
@barren zephyr Quick question, are both the in game models and the character sheet size estimates too big? Or just the in game models of Teno and Carno?
Just the in game models
no, dryo should stay mad
also their* 
if ptera gets hit mid air it should slap to the ground like a piece of wet paper
checkmarking your own suggestion 
Just going to post a quick confirmation that the southern swamp has some kind of FPS drop bug--and it's definitely an error somewhere. I'll periodically drop from 60 to 3-4 fps (hard to tell since the lower visible cap is 8?) and get quite bad graphics lag when facing a certain direction. It comes and goes and I couldn't pin down the source--and it's a swamp not many people spend time in, so it might not be encountered so much. There's something off in there for sure though.
carnos don't need a short bite cd, they are intended to hunt small prey that they wouldn't need to bite spam for
Aren’t JP RPtors one of the reasons they removed a lot of the colour options in the first place?
@barren zephyr i agree with you on the carno acceleration but not with the utah pounce, without utah pounce dealing a lot of damage utah would be terrible and plus every thing in the game that is big enough to be latched onto has a buck to drain utah stam
Oh and @left nacelle the lighting thing is on all servers
Huh. Interesting. Well the lighting's always looked bland like that for me
Oh lmao
"you cant say no to this boi, look at him, hes majestic"
N O
lol yall are dirty trolls lmao
that's fair. though tbh. holding E to buck instead of maybe tapping space or something else easier would be more intuitive.
there's gonna be fishing for exactly that
ugly ones
so black
that need to fit the current night sky better
the only reason clouds are pitch black in real life at night is because of how dark it is, and since update 6 which will add the actual dark night sky is 4 updates away, i don't see how tf this is ok
totally true
they cant be this black while its so bright
Yeah nothing wrong with the clouds, it's the fact that night time isn't done
is this normal to you ?
If there are 2 factors on to why something looks horrible, and one of them would affect gameplay, then the other one is the problem
this is how it should be
still a wip relax
Nope, that isn't how it should be. Red Dead has a very bright night time, just like a lot of other games. The Isle is going to have a realistic night time, where everything is pitch black, hence why the clouds are also that dark
there's also this which by update 6 would also 100% not match the time of day
And yeah, like Synergy said, it's a work in progress
thats for update 6 bro, right now its ugly, period
Then, wait for update 6? No point in wasting time fixing something that won't be an issue in the future, especially if it doesn't effect gameplay
but its an issue now xD
Ah yes, wait 6 and a half months
especially considering how diets and perks would be a huge thing that would defenitely make update 4 and 5 take a large amount of time
understand you first need to add something to then see how it effects the game/performance then go back and change the looks ect to how you want it when the times right
so i need to wait 6 months so i can enjoy the volumetric clouds ?
I'm just saying it makes so sense to waste time changing something around that isn't gonna be an issue in future updates. You can always just change your cloud settings back if you don't like how the clouds look
this too
Yeah I can agree on that, they do get dark a little too early
and im not an expert but why do they change the color of the clouds at the first place, let the lightning change the color of the clouds automatically
It might have to do with the engine that creates the clouds. It probably automatically changes them but since the skybox is so bright right now, the game makes then darker than it should
So the game makes them dark at night, but since the skybox is bright they look strange
do you agree with me that it looks bad FOR NOW ! only for now
never said it looked good or bad just saying its a wip for now
yeah thats fair
Yeah I agree that it looks bad. But it definitely doesn't break the experience for me
if you are running around looking at the sky all the time then yes i can see it being weird
I think the problem is that they’re volumetric
So at night there’s no light hitting them, so they’re just black
And the moon isn’t set up to actually interact with the clouds
@polar verge yes
so like new things to add
?
instead of just add this dinosaur also add why
not that
was just giving an example
so like when a big dinosaur attacks another one like sneaks up on it it should grip on to it like when they bite it neck in Jurassic park it likes grips on and thrashes it around this is because it can drain the other dinosaurs stam and heath and if id is strong enough like snap it neck
you know what i mean?
Yea
thats already planned for certain dinosaurs
Desync (drop from server) issues still continues . Wanted to let you know.
yeah i agree E is a very weird button
who ever said minmi was delayed?
im
Why galli of all things in update 4? It doesn't fit any sort of theme it has at all.
Even if it did the update is already pretty huge anyways.
@opal kestrel you've made my day sir, thanks to you 
when you post the same meme on two different channels
@barren zephyr this was interesting to read, what do you think should be done to make the fight more balanced?
I had this paired with an image, but discord sucks rn
they arent adding colour customization to legacy spino because the code is broken
and bone break is being reworked to not be broken
dont add rex with its primary mechanic
don't add rex at all kappa
rex is gay af but its gotta keep bone break
yeah
also lmao that dude upvoted his own suggestion
It’s either 1. Tenoto becomes more semi aquatic, therefore being able to escape with the body of water present. 2. They buff Tenoto’ combat viability to gain leverage in the fight, this comes with an imbalance against raptor fights and other encounters. 3. They nerf Carno and have it more dependent on pack mates for combat
ngl I did that with my Stego suggestion 
oof
tho tbf it got like 50 upvotes so my upvote doesn't really matter I guess 
its funny when people give suggestions that are essentially just complaints and then upvote it
I should put this in balance rather
I could see them allowing Teno to get on its hind legs maybe or give it an aimable tail slam?
this guy does realize giga is easier to hunt with than rex and that rex has shit stam to balance his bb out right

where is the image you were talking about Nacen
a while back i came up with some ideas for bone breaks and the community responded rlly well to it, so ima just leave the link to it here for u guys to enjoy my brilliance, bc this link will also show u my innovative genius in action while tackling the issue of y stego should majorly fuck everything that attacks it. #general-feedback message
@robust spire bonebreak is changing
My discord can’t post it
its not going to be % based anymore
i dont even know how to respond to this feedback tbh, i think they are basing it off of legacy rex?
I’ll grab a link
legacy isnt changing until it is deleted
I’m talking abt in evrima
fractures will be location based and power based
bone break is being eworked with a fracture system and will be locational so you cant just run up to somebody and bite their ass and cripple them
Legacy is irrelevant. There's no point in comparing something from legacy to Evrima
Do me a favour and post it for me
Yes there is
There isn't.
getting charged by a pachy will cripple a carno but probably wont do a ton to something like rex because it can bolt
They shouldn’t make the same mistakes bc otherwise they will fuck evrima up also
@robust spire git gud just run away from a rex they can't catch shit
shouldn't the fight arrow for teno be less than? Since you stated that teno can't fight carno in your feed back?
Ok that’s fair
the mistake wasn't giving rex bb tho, its how it was implemented
the point of evrima is to not be legacy.
you'll actually have to aim for the legs to break them instead of biting somebody's tail and breaking their shin
Ambush
Rex ambush is insane
Ambush isn't in evrima
Oh fuck Im high
Give me a sec
rexes have no power if they dont sneak up on you
XD
Yes Ik that
if you pay attention to your surroundings you can literally just trot away from rex as most things
stay away from areas of high cover
which btw they can be very good at XD silent allo pain
Allowing Teno to stun Carnos with a headshot tail slam could help it out a lot tbh
Here you go
even in ambush slower fuckers like diablo can juke rex if they know what theyre doing
not if its a smart rex
if anything is broken it's giga not rex, rex is honestly one of the better balanced animals in legacy
if they dont have a ping of 500 then avoiding them is easy
Do me a favor and post that in balance feedback with my copy pasta
My discord broke i stg
yes
giga
giga has 1 bad matchup
unless its a bad giga
a bad giga stomps every non apex
I don’t play evrima and also I don’t need schooling by all of you on how to play the game,
I have played it long enough and Ik that having bone break on Rex and not anky or stego is fucked up. I haven’t played evrima so idk what the mechanics are. I’m a legacy man always will be but it is shit due to it being so fucking unbalanced
Wait you want me to do that or do you want to wait until you get on your computer?
It would, maybe if it was completely stationery it would counter oncoming Carno's with its bad turn speed, while raptors having an easy time evading those slams
even a bad giga can solo a camara and trike with ease
Cama yes but trike idk
On my pc rn, probs a bug from discord but yes.
it's literally so easy to 1v1 trikes and camaras as giga
Cama is a easy kill to like anything
ive played it for over 1k hours and idk shit about how to fight so 
since trike is slower, tanks less bleed and doesnt regen stam
camara wrecks rex
tbh im sad they broke legacy bc it was a perfect way to pass the time while waiting for the enxt evrima update
Not really
if they dont break your leg first hit with a large pack you win
Cama is a very easy kill
ive seen good rexes kill camara, but it's braindead easy as giga
just dont let them get free hits they cant out trade you even with two adults and if you manage to land one stomp somehow they cant fight anymore
Bc the cam has to be moving quite a lot otherwise it’s stomp baits and the rest of it
A shitty allo can kill a cam
giga can tank camara for 4 bites heal tank it again for 2 bites and wait
Random question FazyD. If you haven't played evrima and don't even know what the mechanics are, why are you suggesting things for evrima?
Nonono
why are you discussing legacy balance
a bad stomp spamming cam maybe but if your defensive you win
Cam is speed
Cam needs a speed reduci
no it cant, trust me, ive tried
i sense potato
Just rework bone break.
eh ive killed camas that didnt stomp, it's just a slower more agonizing death for them and i almost starved lmao
🤯
giga is faceroll easy
yea, make it like this #general-feedback message
@barren zephyr hang on let me do something real quick to give you credit
23kmph go burr
timer reaction
⏲️
Talking about legacy balance when evrima is a thing is like making a building and arguing about the scaffolding
I don't need the credit dw
As long as the feedback for my points are there
Foszor is a dev and he has brain cancer
People are putting that in their name to show support
Nooooo
well shit I have to wait another 6 hours before I can post anything can you try maybe going on the discord website and doing it yourself? @barren zephyr
I’m putting that on my name
These timers are insane
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Snap, crackle and pop! Fractures are going to be splintering their way into the game. Gone are the days of the so often infuriating bone-break mechanic of old that was in many ways, an automatic death sentence. Fractures have a range from mild to severe. Hindering your character accordingly. But also have more ways to be both applied and mitigated than you've ever experienced.
Anyone else willing to put my copy pasta with an image, in the balanced feedback channel?
The timers got me in a loop
cool
<@&401466542140817419> hey guys me again
Wait it won’t let me change my name to #teamfoszor bc it says I can’t have a #
balance feedback 6 hr cooldown 🙂
On my phone again
Lmao its crazy
@robust spire doesn't seem to fully understand the rules
have you tried posting it in #balance-feedback @barren zephyr?
Wdym
What have I done now
Yes, I have. But it got gutted since it didnt want to upload the image
I think it's because you posted stuff about Legacy balance, FazyD
He said "Ok fortnite boy" that's a pretty compelling argument for his suggestion

Ok where is the legacy feedback
Oh yeah, and that
I don’t play evrima
Legacy is abandoned.
it dosent exist because legacy is a dead end
There is no Legacy feedback because that version of the game is irrelevant and over
Also These don't go in #general-feedback
Legacy is gonna be deleted eventually, once evrima has more content
Uh.... yes?
Is there a way I can preserve it
no lmao
Like on my pc
legacy is a programming dead end
Why would you want to do that.
I hate it but I love it
i mean you can but it wont have any players on it
Why don't you try evrima?
It’s so buggy and crap but it’s also my childhood
Just never update ez
Never
Evrima is a beta
evrima is worse than legacy in two ways less playables and early development bugs
My poop pc prolly can’t run evrima graphics so ima not bother
My point
Evrima has better optimization.
evrima is easier than legacy in general
So you want improvements to Legacy, but you don't want to play the improved Legacy when [as in: not now] it has even more content?
evrima is better in litteraly every other way
Well maybe in a few updates you'll want to try evrima, FazyD
ill play all the time with update 4
By the end of the roadmap there will be more playables and more mechanics
Devs fucked legacy up so much they had too make new game
And you want to play that?
pachy perks and fractures will be quality
No but I’d rather play it than the replacement
keep in mind the old programmer fucked the code and ditched them
That.... makes no sense? lol
Okay but, and hear me out on this, that doesn't make any sense.
The fact that people say Evrima is bad, tho it isn’t even fully released. Like, Update 3 isn’t even out yet
bruh don't post in general feedback if you can't take your suggestion being downvoted
when update 3, 4 and 5 are out evrima will be better then legacy
I give up. I’ll try evrima when they add the sarcosuchus
Wrong game, but neat.
Or the deinonychus
You mean deinosuchus lol
And wdym deinonychus?
its deinosuchus 
Was that an autocorrect too?
If u talking bot BOB I don’t play that shit
Yes
I was talking about POT, they have Sarco
That’s what I meant
Gotcha
What’s that
once i got a suggestion to change hypsilophodon to xylophonist
no path of titans has sarco (it invalidates half the roster)
Ooooh
Path of Titans. Not a bad game, but it's built on Legacy's coding
yeah pot is the old legacy programmers game
I’m not gonna play these cheap the isle rip offs
thats the one with the ex dev?
Yeah
that moment when every game with dinosaurs is a rip off now
Just don't let your loyalty to legacy keep you from having an open mind about the competition or future versions of the isle
^
pot is doomed lmao
bob was partly but its deviated a lot and pot is legacy v2 but with no mechanics
I've followed The Isle since 2015 and as soon as I played evrima, I was hooked. No more legacy for me lol
Like I said I give in but I will never forget legacy
Legacy brought me up
The parents I never had
You say give in like it's a bad thing lol, it's fine to remember Legacy, it was a wild ride
Just you know, there's no future for it
It was a painful and shitty ride
i played legacy back when it was 3 months old on steam
yet i still prefer evrimas mechanics more
But
I'm getting mixed signals here lmao
It’s still amazing
just dont like the playables in evrima rn
Like carno is the apex rn 😂
Nah that's steg
wow what is this Elders thingy in the development
"Elders are larger, more powerful variations of the adult stage of life. They are only accessible by following certain diet and perk pathways. While elders start off stronger than the highest tier adult of their species, over time they depreciate in strength until time releases them from their reign. You may choose to embrace death and die with a bonus you can apply to that species later on. Or, depending on your species, you can forfeit reward, deny the reaper for a time and extend your reign as something far more terrifying."
Apex carnivore
Gallimimus
i dont care for carno hypsi or dryo hate utah dont feel tenonto is enjoyable and stego takes too long to grow
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yes
Good mechanic but I can’t lie the devs will most likely execute it wrong
the roadmap aka whats coming to evrima
People can’t say they won’t like deino or Ptera, 99% sure
okay so yeah legacy got fucked up they could have just said fuck it we are done instead they are moving onto a better version of the game thats a opt in alpha version of the new game that will be the future of the isle.there are other games you can play to keep you busy while the devs work on the game to get it where it needs to be.this game just needs time and to make a new game which evrima is,its a new game that will take time.remember legacy didnt just turn up over night it took years of development.
except this time theyre doing everything slowly so theyre gonna make sure everything works and doesnt go to shit like legacy did
I mean have you tried the other Evrima mechanics? They've actually been done rather well compared to Legacy's version, like bleed not being 2 bites and you just die
and the CC is 
if you think they will do it wrong then why dont you play another game
Like I said I haven’t tried evrima
No
Never
oh so ur a stan
I know, that was rhetorical because without trying the mechanics you can't say they feel bad or are done poorly
However crap this game goes ima stick
then stop whining about it so much. have some hope.
@crude girder i've read that.. whatas that other perk.? like save it to get a hypo?
I’ve invested too much time
FazyD, your attachment to The Isle kinda sounds unhealthy tbh
theyre a stan
We should support the developers, for spending their time into something for us, instead of leaving the Isle. They could’ve made evrima like a payable DLC, but they didn’t.
Lets not bring that word into this lol
ok 😦
Is evrima free if you already have legacy
Uh.. yeah?
I think it means you either get a perk for your next dino, or you can ditch the perk and become a strain for a bit till you die, but that remains to be seen since it isn't even a part of an update lol
Ok
It's just a separate branch of the game
plus we will need update 4 and 5 before we get elders
Will it be free for good if I have legacy?
yes
Yes
yes
Ok good
You bought the game, you have the game
I don’t wanna pay another 15 quid
Eventually Legacy will be replaced, once Evrima has the content to stand on its own
there is a method to the madness of the road map
I’ll try evrima tmr, if it’s okay I’ll consider making the switch
Tbh, I had hope in the game since update 1, already enjoy the game (tho the bugs are still a bit annoying)
I would actually wait for a bit
oh btw im pretty sure anky is going to 1 shot things if it hits their head. you literally have to bend down as anything large enough to live one hit to get hit in the face.
I say give it till we have update 5 to really get into it
And don't forget, you can switch back anytime. It's not like you're stuck with one of them
we are on update 2 rn, with update 3 being worked on
yeah update 3, 4 and 5 are going to be the good ones
#makeankygreatagain
speaking of which, i cant wait to fuck with ppl who come to drink
i cant wait to blast utahs off as pachy
Btw is spino gonna be a survival Dino in evrima??
if they jump at me im breaking their ribs
Imagine drinking when update 3 comes out, I'll just die of dehydration lmao
Can’t wait to haunt the darkness as troodons
almost everything will be a survival dino
how is this not considered political tho
Every animal will be playable in survival, just not everything on official servers
@robust spire Yes, and it's gonna be kinda like a hippo, running on the bottom of lakes and stuff
and unofficials can make whatever they want playable
Good bc I am a spino fan man, been my fav Dino for over 13 years
officials might not have brachi but an unofficial can
and all the animals will be balanced, even if they aren't playable
none of that "sandbox dinos" stat bullshit
looking at you theri
spino will be pretty tough with sucho deino bary and a ton of other animals in the same environment
cough cough Unlike theri
Is spino gonna be customiseable bit like u would get random colours when u got nested?
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look at the roadmap
thats whats planned as of now
Skin system and nesting are going to both be a thing
Ok
everything else is pretty far off
YESS
just not atm, it'll be a bit of a wait
Yes, all animals will be. But the skin system isn't in yet and won't be for a while
spino is not gonna get added any time soon btw
none of the apexes will
JP3 SPINO SHALL RETURN
ok thats too far man. ur gettin too political now
Why do I want Troodons so bad?
so you can see what is getting added, in what order
yeah im guessing apexes will be at least another year
because your inherently evil.
Because you can see the 1 braincell pinging around their skulls like a DVD screen saver lmao
I guess so
sadly however, there r no corners to slide into
troo is going to be horrifying and terible for ballance with mimicry.
Dilo is good too
...you know it's tiny af right?
"dryo might have an overloaded kit with burrowing" gives the most overloaded carnivore mimicry.
Ok I’m looking at the trello brb
Troodon is like hypsi sized lol
Like you are just gonna be able to step on a Troodon lol
yeah ik troo is tiny dosent mean 20 of the buggers wont try rexes and trikes
Whenever we get trample, if we get trample lol
trample is a must
Imagine Dryo being able to burrow

I really hope it doesn't. :/
What, trample or dryo burrow?
oh so its gonna be like that tiny little raptor from that YT video with the sauropod stepping on the watermelons and then a mujangosaurus attacks it, and then the raptor gets attacked by the giantass toad things?
ya kno the one im thinking of? lmao
but really though update 9 burrowing and sparring when.

dinosaur revolution
yes
yes
majunga
R.I.P. the sauropod
majunga gunga
Based

we do also know magys head is crunchy
speaking of majunga, if it were to be added, where would it fit in???
hence ceratos concept
maji was planned but replaced by rugops
I didn’t see spino on the roadmap
That's because it is not a part of the first 8 updates
thats because its not coming for a long time
Roadmap doesn't contain everything planned
Nooo
imo majunga would be a slower carno, with more bleed, less bite, and also more chonk
There's a lot of animals that aren't on the roadmap, that doesn't mean they won't be added
The roster is starting with Utah sized animals and working their way up
also Troodon getting dunked on is my favorite thing
maji is between rugops and cerato
Poor Troodon :c
kill the snakes with legs
also ava 2 shotting utah again when.
Are humans still gonna be a thing??
Yes
Yes
Yes
Climb trees
yep
Bc the. It’s just primal carnage
That's a deep part of the lore, humans aren't going anywhere
It will be a copy of primal carnage if u add humans
Having humans doesn't make the game a completely different genre
Humans + Dinos =/= Primal Carnage
Primal is a team deathmatch shooter, The isle is a survival game
My point
Being a human is going to be terrifying
=/= means not the same
Plus you can have servers that are just dinos, or just humans
Jurassic World =/= Primal Carnage
Humans + Dinosaurs = The Lost World novel from the 1800's
@vast wolf stop, bad
And how tf are humans gonna defend themselves? Guns. Anywhere where that sounds familiar?
There's a slash going through the equals sign. I was saying that humans and dinos doesn't equal primal carnage
Deathmatch game. Survival game. Do you know the difference?
burrow 
It's almost as if humans use guns irl
also in primal carnage hte point is the kill the other things to win
TI is gonna be, kill things for food or if they attack u, and other then that, just survive
Ark and Primal Carnage are the same game
cease
No no no
ava minmi homalo burrowing and sparring for update 9
U haven’t played pvp buddy
But they both have dinosaurs and humans and guns
so they are the same
That's what you implied
you said so yourself
Fuck
Humans with Guns + Dinosaurs = Primal Carnage
therefore, anything with those in it = Primal Carnage
Ark = Primal Carnage
gotta think before you make blanket statements
Plus humans aren't gonna just have guns. They need to find the guns, get ammo, eat and drink, hide from animals
Okay but in arks case it’s a different scenario. How many hours do u have in ark?
yeah a spawned human will basically be free food
I haven't played Ark, I don't enjoy their creature designs, but the game is a Survival game
Can you build bases in Primal Carnage?
Humans will spawn with a knife at the very most
But who on earth would be a pathetic human
you spawn with a backpack and flashlight and possibly combat knife food and water.
Can you tame dinosaurs in Primal Carnage?
people like @barren zephyr
I would. Sounds scary
humans are awesome
FazyD, you don't know about the strains and stuff either, do you?
U are insane
Maybe I am
Gotta get that horror, looting, base repairing experience with my buddies.
Ik hypo and neuro
That’s it
humans sound like food for pretty much anything if they dont have a gun
And the devs won’t let me play them which’s sucks
@civic delta bc tenontosaurus is a fucking beast and is much stronger and meatier than a raptor
And how do you think those strains came to be? Along with all the other animals in the game? They were made by humans
Tf is that
he didnt say type t in the chat its a scam!!!!
The third strain.
tissoplastic is like a living plastic or some shit
I get this joke and I find it amusing
But who cares the won’t let us play it
pretty sure tissos are being redone anyway and renamed but will still be in.
But they will in Evrima, you have to work for it though
elder system tells you that we will eventually
you can't just... play a strain. They are high tier end game content
You’ll be able to play them when the means to unlock them are put in.
You will have to be great at the game to even have a chance
just no point in adding strains when the whole roster is less than 3 tons barring stego and deino
and no that doesn't mean having a huge K/D ratio
Let me guess u have to have a degree in computer programming and 5 years experience developing games yes?
yeah elders will be tough
Obviously that's what it means, this is Primal Carnage 
and why do we need one?
No, you have to be an elder and do a bunch of random crap that we don't know about yet
Ok
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its called working hard for something very powerful u nimbus
U haven’t got a life so that type t is MINE
Bro you have to make it to elder first
which means you need the right perks and diets
Yes
not without working for it
😳
if u work hard enough
You gotta make it to elder, then you get the chance to be a strain
I don’t have a job
That is also a strain, so yes, eventually.
if you get to elder and are playing the right species and choose to become one and get every requirement
wut u think u should just be able to become a FUCKING GOD AMONGST DINOS??????? NAW SUCKA U NEED TO WORK FOR THAT
Hypo is kinda temporary tho cause the longer you live as it, the hungrier you get and you'll need to be keep killing stuff and eating until you eventually just die of starvation
I mean, you have to actually play the game to get a reward like a strain. You don't just get to play the strongest thing in the game.
yeah neuro and tisso would be smarter
neuro all the way
neruo spino is ... spooky
Yes I’m not stupid
I'm more of a tisso guy myself
I’m just saying
you can play a hypo on isla nycta, for one $420.69 you too can be a hypo rex
no its pwetty
walking emp with visual distortion that slurps your insides and baits you with calls
I haven’t seen these tisso or neuros and stuff
why are people talking here like it's isle discussion lol

exactly, its the prettiest thing ever
Alright I'm done here
because thats what this channel is made for?
thats because neuro spino is the only non hypo modled
@robust spire Here's neuro spino
no this channel is talking about the things posted in general feedback
@vast wolf Magna rex cough cough
It started with that
magna is kind of a half ass strain
Oh Ik what manga Rex is
Still a strain
ngl its just pce rex
It’s just primal carnage Rex
False. They're both based off the JP rex, hence why they look similar
hypo stands for:
I
Do
Not
Care
If
I
Am
Eventually
Going
To
Starve,
I
Just
Wanna
Murder
Shit
magna might not even be playable we literally know nothing about them except they are the max non hypo limit and can fight hypos
Yea but they look similar yet, so the primac Rex is the isle magma and the isle magma is the primac Rex
we also know that they r the primal carnage versions of the TI dinos
The Isle also takes place in the same universe as Primal Carnage iirc sooo
we literally know nothing lore wise
