ok thats what i thought
#general-feedback-discussion
zenith onyx
alright who keeps trying to contact me in this channel? 3 times this has happened...
barren zephyr
idk
finite iron
Cant you just check the @?
inner hound
check inbox
primal vault
I contacted you once in order to joint our ideas to hopefully get our creature noticed by the devs
heavy slate
Can I speak with someone about a bug or something in my legacy game play?
azure wadi
Legacy isn’t getting any updates so I don’t think any reports about it would matter
heavy slate
So i wont be able to fix the controls?
median ore
@deep jetty I just made the same suggestion just longer #general-feedback message - would appreciate the support, I checkmarked yours 🙂
deep jetty
Alrighty
median ore
Thanks ❤️ -- The bipedal running launch is so wrong, it bothers me immensely lol.
deep jetty
yea, i dont even know proper anatomy & it still looks wrong
azure wadi
Doesn’t pterandon already have a push up launch that they’ve shown us a while ago
inner hound
theres a quadrup launch, and a albatross launch.
Albatross launch was supposed to take less stam iirc.
and quadrup is a quick launch
azure wadi
I’m pretty sure that a albatross run in reality would take more stam, imagine a quadropedel animal trying to get enough speed to fly by running on its weak hind legs
median ore
I’m pretty sure that a albatross run in reality would take more stam, imagine a ...
Yes, EXACTLY this.
If they wanted it to take less stam, implement the quad sprint into quad launch I suggested.
Because "momentum".
azure wadi
I hope in the time that they’ve been developing ptera they’ve listened to our criticisms, there’s still hope, we haven’t seen official footage of ptera gameplay in a long time and there’s always updates after launch
Yeah could be old footage from when ptera was available to server admins, also you can’t post videos of forbidden creatures here
median ore
Yeah could be old footage from when ptera was available to server admins, also y...
Forbidden? You mean in development??
azure wadi
No by forbidden I mean stuff like creatures that we’re not allowed to use eg: hypos and in development creatures
So I’d suggest you delete that
median ore
I don't see a rule in the pins or the official discord rules saying I can't post it 
azure wadi
Did you delete it or did krow
median ore
Krow did
median ore
https://tenor.com/view/wair-for-me-fullmetal-alchemist-gif-9923328
I mean I DID check the pins and discord rules, I tried.
edgy harbor
You're not on RO are ya? You're not in trouble :P
median ore
Okay. ;o; -- But yeah that makes sense, and yeah, it's. It's being shared and, well, that's why suggestion happened.
So really is doing what you said huh. 😭
azure wadi
what
barren zephyr
FFS what's going on now
So apparently you're not allows to post footage of WIP/restricted creatures for suggestions
low dock
What did you post?
median ore
No no, it was me. Referencing a video that was released by an unofficial source.
My actual suggestion is still up, because I didn't actually post it in the suggestion. But you can't link / post unofficial videos as reference for feedback on unreleased dinos.
white spruce
Here's an idea for the running quad launch; what if the forelimbs stayed in place while the body continued moving forward due to inertia? This way the running launch would be a more literal pole vault into the air than the stationary launch.
Like, it stops itself using its front limbs, then uses the momentum from its having galloped first in order to launch
barren zephyr
the quad launch of a ptera involves it using the forelimbs to launch itself during a gallop
the gallop builds up speed
white spruce
Pretty sure realistically they could do it without running, I just think transitioning directly from the gallop to the launch makes more sense than fully stopping
like, again, a real pole vault instead of a catapault
barren zephyr
Pretty sure realistically they could do it without running, I just think transit...
it's also possible without a runup
but yeah, smooth launching transition with no pause
median ore
It's possible without a runup, it is designed as a catapult. I was suggesting the runup method because, if you know how elastics (and tendons on animal legs) work, the more pressure you put on them, the faster they can "snap" back and release that pressure. Horse's and Cheetah's back legs from the ankle down are all tendon, and if you look into it, they literally work like springs to launch the animal forward and make them go faster.
So the idea is that the momentum from the sudden stop would go into the tendons, and allow an easier launch into the air.
white spruce
I'm saying remove step 3 here. Instead, have the ptera use its forelimbs to stop itself, allowing its momentum to vault it into the air.
median ore
I mean, it's not impossible, but I was working with the existing video's launch example, which requires all four limbs to get off the ground. Idk if they even considered Ptera being able to gallop in the first place.
white spruce
I think in that video it uses the hind feet to do the leap because it's stationary already. That jump is just to gain the momentum to vault, if the ptera does something similar at the end of its gallop it should be able to take off from a run like that quickly
median ore
Plus, also, I kinda like the characterization of having Pteras do a lil' "crouch and pounce" to yeet off into the air.
mellow maple
I will fight tooth and nail to get rid of that albatross run. I hate that thing
cobalt compass
The savior of Paleonerds has spoken...
mellow maple
Mhm
cobalt compass
@inner hound
shitty anmial...🤢
cool suggestion 👍
cobalt compass
wait... hold up
dont mind my lack of brain power, im at work
cool painting of an suggestion for pela
just wrong channel
inner hound
oh LOl
inner hound
im still uncertain if i should put it in as a suggestion,
i would still need to draw a lil comic strip of its special ability
cobalt compass
^
inner hound
so maybe another day
cobalt compass
i'd like to see those
inner hound
once i finish the the special ability thing. for sure
cobalt compass
well "hate" may be the weong term, for something to hate you first need to feel love and affection for it, since i didnt in the first place i just heavely unlike pela
inner hound
alot of people dislike pela. which is fine.
i see why it has faults
but im trying to pull things out that can make it work
random sail
@barren zephyr they would probably want to finish each map before starting a new one, like the roadmap with dinos and mechanics
inner hound
i will keep fighting for pela, doesnt matter when it comes. but once we get a confirmation it wont be ingame. my fight ends
random sail
@nova anchor they are adding 5 total new maps, we already know about Isla Spiro, Isla Spero, and Thenyaw Island. Each island will have their own uniqueness. We just have to be patient.
inner hound
Thenyaw most likely wont be a thing
Dinosauriac left the team.
and the 5 maps statement is so long ago, we dont even know if that still stands, after they took the action of trying to find a new mapper
random sail
I don’t think they would scrap everything because Dinosauriac left though
inner hound
it was his map. in dondis words "dinosauriacs baby"
theres a big chance it wont come back. as upsetting as it is for me, since i adored thenyaw.
nova anchor
<@!462748815582035968> they are adding 5 total new maps, we already know about I...
I know they plan to add more maps. What I want is diversity in ONE map
random sail
You are right, but I think they are still adding 5 total maps
inner hound
diversity is heavily needed for any map
i dont want one or two biomes on one map tbf
nova anchor
yes
inner hound
and then you have to switch map for another biome like wh 
nova anchor
right now we have jungle, plains, and swamps, which look nice, but it'd be cool to have more. The whole map just looks identical right now.
inner hound
mhm
inner hound
no one mentioned temperate.
even tho that can work.
but theres more to tropical, than just jungles and swamps
nova anchor
you can have it be tropical and still diverse lmao
inner hound
^
nova anchor
I made a suggestion about it a while ago, lemme find it
random sail
I know that, but a lot of people want redwoods and pines, and things
inner hound
what else is missing, landmarks that help you guide through the map.
rn the only landmark that actually stands out is BP rock
nova anchor
#general-feedback message here was something I suggested a while ago
inner hound
we have aurora borealis on a tropical island. so what
oh yea stuff like savannahs nice
nova anchor
of course, the savannah would be located farther from the moist and more forested areas of the map
loud hamlet
JP Para calls are horrendous imo, also copyright issues
random sail
I’m not trying to be boring, believe me I love diversity, but I just want it to look good
I don’t want to shut down your idea, because it’s a good one, but I just don’t want it to look like they just smashed a bunch of biomes together
inner hound
honestly we need also more foliage assets. some other colors
inner hound
it all depends on the new mapper rlly. once one is hired
and uhhh
he got a job at the game primal carnage iirc
inner hound
i wasnt around then. i came when uhh when v3 became a thing
solid wedge
Remember Isle V4?
i loved that map
random sail
Too bad it never came
short jewel
Ok tell me whats the problem by showing that i approve my own suggestion?
And no, no desperation, it just shows i approve my own suggetion lol
Soo
Ya
safe galleon
just posting your own suggestions shows that you approve it
why else would you post a suggestion lol
cobalt compass
you need another story that's not in the archives?
azure wadi
what
cobalt compass
thats for alpharaptor 
safe galleon
was that another fucking stars wars reference?
azure wadi
Does it even make sense for cerato to be able to do that, it just doesn’t seem like its teeth are designed to handle that
cobalt compass
was that another fucking stars wars reference?
you didnt like it?
safe galleon
would it be treason if I didn't?
azure wadi
Isn’t drinking just hydration with an animation
zenith onyx
@exotic lava That would cause people to go on killing sprees, just for fun to get high Kill ratings
exotic lava
Its a pvp game. People are going to kill each other regardless. Besides, most private servers have their own set of behavior rules that players must follow.
cobalt compass
its also a survival genre, and not battle royale
blissful onyx
i think that could be a fun option for private servers to turn on
dense wagon
as for the mosasaur thing, i would suggest a smaller species instead of downsizing mosasaurus itself. but then again it wouldn't make sense either way, since mosasaurs are saltwater creatures
exotic lava
Having a log file doesnt take away from the survival element one bit. Its just a way for players to track their progress.
cobalt compass
indeed, but than you'd attract and mix player groups with different expectations for the game on maybe one server
cyan flame
Maybe if it's only something you can see on your own character, but then you could just as well just keep a track on your own I guess
blissful onyx
i think it would encourage undesirable behavior but i think it could work on private servers the prefer a death match style
exotic lava
You already have that mixture as we speak. There are certain servers intended for specific play, some for survival, others for sand box. Its up to the server owner to decide what model of play style they want on the server. Allowing the community to track this info isnt going to change that.
cyan flame
It might, since the game sort of says it's important
If there's an official count, then it can be seen as important, despite it not having any meaning, and might affect how people play
cobalt compass
i also agree that this is the case, but what i mean is the unwanted mix of players who play for survival and are for example killed over and over by players who play competitive for their stats
exotic lava
How? If i break a rule that a private server has, im going face the concequences that server imposes regardless of if there is a log file or not.
cobalt compass
rules will be most likely be gone with evrima, excempt for something like "dont be a dick or anti social" but thats it. ruled server you know from legacy will be no more... thats atleast the goal
also these rules and consequences wont stop the ruthless ones who dont care
exotic lava
That maybe the intention, but thats not whats being seen in practice. Even the state Evirma is in now, servers still impose thier own rules.
cobalt compass
its a hard case to decide upon... 🤷♂️
i for my part dont like it
yes, i implied 1.0
exotic lava
I just dont see the issue. Its just a simple log file that can be used to display a statistic. Hardcore pvpers will like it as they can track thier progress, and other players who are more focused on the survival elements can simply ignore it as it wont affect their game play regardless.
cobalt compass
if its just a simple log file, how would you access it as a player?
upon death with a "stat tracker" like in shooters? an external programm which can only be accessed "offline"?
exotic lava
I was thinking something along the lines of a seperate website that can access it, maybe through an API or some other means.
cobalt compass
than it had to be secured so it doesnt get manipulated from players and so on
exotic lava
If a community wants to develop something like that for thier members, I dont see why thry shouldnt be able to.
cobalt compass
like battlefield feed?
exotic lava
Its just one file.
I was thinking more along the lines of a killboard from EvE Online
exotic lava
This is a killboard for EvE Online which im referring to
It tracks a players ship loss/kill ratio.
Im not sugessting something that complex as to include values, just something the community can use to create a website to track player interactions between groups
cobalt compass
🤷♂️ we'll see how well your suggestion is being accepted
night mountain
Honestly I’d say the opposite for Deino, there’s no need to make it need water a ton. It lives in it and is going to be not good on land anyway so the only people playing terrestrial deino will be memers
A kill board would be nice, then we can see what species kills what and how often
Would probably be a help for balance and at worst just be interesting
exotic lava
Well again, im not suggesting it include any sort of artificial currency values, but if a herd and a pack fight, it would be nice to see who participated, what lived, what died, and where it all happened.
Just for the sake of information.
hot ingot
guy suggesting utahs should be faster than carnos
lmao
utahs are were capable of running around 25 mph
carnos between 50-70
"realistic" my ass
exotic lava
Prehistoric cheetahs
hot ingot
basically
night mountain
Wait what the fuck was carno literally able to run at freeway speeds
azure wadi
Carno had much larger leg muscles than Utah
exotic lava
Well i think a cheetah can run up to 60
cobalt compass
maybe someone mixed up kph and mph
night mountain
Imagine seeing a carno coming to get you going 70mph
cobalt compass
going even for 70kph is kinda cursed
median ore
rules will be most likely be gone with evrima, excempt for something like "dont ...
Honestly, sad to hear this. Realism RP servers were my main jam on Legacy, and they could only function with enforceable rule-sets.
I'm far from the only person to feel this way, too.
cobalt compass
jtbc, private server owners can freely setup any set of rules they want. the goal is just to make the game be able to run without or with minimum restrictions of rules on the officials
the game shall regulate itself in the majority of events that can happen
someone is doing something that was considered a rb in legacy, well let evrima handle it by preventing an repeating through a ingame mechanic without the intervention of an admin
thats the goal
the way until will be plastered with many fixes, suggestions and changes
median ore
Ah, okay. That's... a lot more reassuring. And I agree - on officials, I don't think rules should be necessary. But when I wana get my immersion on, can't do that with certain players interrupting.
And only way to stop that, is to have rules in place and ways to enforce those rules.
cobalt compass
just keep in mind that the play style on official server is the one thats intended by the devs. what you do on your server is just up to you
median ore
Will there be a "replay" or similar log function like there use to be? For even the ability to enforce private server rules?
cobalt compass
tbh, i have no f...ing clue atm 🤷♂️
it may or may not return
but there are some suggestions about it already in the feedback channel
median ore
I hope some kinda logging does, otherwise... well, if you don't know who broke the rule... can't do anything about it. 
I'll go dig 'em up and upvote them if I haven't
cobalt compass
^ thats why the game shall regulate itself. also not everybody is able to record its game by 3rd party or so, but an ingame solution that is flawed like the one in legacy is not desired
median ore
It's better than nothing, though. I don't see any mechanic you could implement that would prevent killing for sport and body-guarding by herbivores, which are two of the biggest rules almost any realism server had in place.
cobalt compass
why bodyguard if it gives you a debuff and decourages such behavior? for example
median ore
That's the only thing we can really think of, though. 😅
cobalt compass
im sure the team finds a compromise that appeals most the ppl
you cant make 100% happy 🤷♂️
exotic lava
I dont see how you're going to implement a debuff for bodygaurding. Like is a herbivore going to be penalized if they happen to be standing next to a body/gore pile?
paper geyser
yes.
exotic lava
So if a herd member dies of starvation because they had to go afk but didnt eat, then the whole herd is going to have to relocate their nests, hatchlings and others just because someone starved or get a debuff? Thats not right.
What about the herd members who are off eating food and come back and the herd is gone with only a body there? Not every dino in a herd is also in a group.
paper geyser
dunno, debuff for guarding a corpse is only one proposed idea
we don't even know if there'll be a deterrent at all
exotic lava
Well, IF they are going to implement a bodyguarding debuff, then to maintain balance, they will also implement a water gaurding debuff too. Hows that going to work? Are you going to be penalized for being near water if you're not drinking? Then they will need to change how the hatchlings need to eat and drink every other minute, otherwise just having hatchling means you have to put up with a constant debuff, which isnt going to sit well with players.
Theres just some things that can not be automated, nor should they.
cobalt compass
as by now, body dragging is implemented. if stupid herbis doing stupid herbi things like prevent a carni relocating their dead herdmember 🤷♂️
water guarding is no thing in evrima
paper geyser
there's nothing saying the area has to be big either, they can just move 50-100m and be fine
cobalt compass
they're much more water sources than in legacy
exotic lava
It just sounds like a bad idea imo. Punishing them for just sitting there. Because not every situation is the same.
paper geyser
well it is a problem
herbivores camp corpses very often to purposefully bait or starve carnivores, it should be addressed in some way
same deal with carnivores camping bushes
though that one is less common
exotic lava
Im not saying it isnt a problem. Im just saying the proposed solution is only going to make the situation worse.
paper geyser
well like melon said, they can just move away and let carnivores take it
and like i said, the radius doesn't need to be massive
proud coral
But what if carnivores don't want to take it and purposely leave it there to mess with them?
exotic lava
^
paper geyser
then the herbivores just moved 10-20m for no reason
proud coral
Hmm, true
paper geyser
they don't need that corpse, i don't see what the issue is
proud coral
I like the idea, that just came to mind
exotic lava
But now they cant go back. What if they have nests and hatchlings? It takes a few trips for smaller herbis to fill a nest, so now they have to destroy that nest, maje a new one, spend all that time filling it with food, all while the hatchlings are starving, only leaving more and more bodies that the herbis now have to rinse and repeat
paper geyser
then that seems like their problem to not die near their nests
another solution would be allowing herbivores to carry corpses
exotic lava
So once a herbi is hatched, they have to abandon their nest?
paper geyser
what?
exotic lava
In order to avoid dying next to or on their nest, then they just have to leave it, otherwise they will have a debuff, is what your suggesting, right?
paper geyser
well no, preferably they'd have parents to protect them
i don't know where you got this idea of hatchlings dying right out of the nest
exotic lava
Because a hatchling has to eat very often in order to not starve. If a herd is going to be penelized with a debuff because a herd member was killed where they are nesting, then they would have to relocate. Unless herds are allowed to move their nests, they would have to destroy them, and then put a new one down. They they have to go get food to refill tjat nest. Some hatchlings may not live long enough to wait for new food and would starve to death, meaning that anew body would be where the new nesting site is, resulting in the herd once again having to destroy any new nests put down and move again to avoid a debuff. This wouldnt be a problem so much with larger herbis who can have a larger stomach for food, but smaller herbis like a dryo would struggle.
paper geyser
fair point, like i said earlier that can be solved by allowing herbivores to move corpses
exotic lava
I understand that the devs dont want Evirma to be Legacy 2.0, but they also need to make sure that changes they make are going to be reasonable
paper geyser
of course
i wouldn't want this debuff to be implemented if herbi corpse dragging doesn't come with it (or another solution is found)
exotic lava
God i could just picture a Steggo dragging a body by its tail with utahs chasing it trying to take bites off the body. 😂
proud coral
Grazing is fine. It's literally just to stop you from starving, nothing more. Just keep eating grass now and then until you find food.
mighty nexus
and how hard is it to find proper food in the first place hmm
proud coral
Not too hard from my experience
But grass is everywhere so eventually you'll find food. Just keep grazing until then
mighty nexus
me and my friends have tried laying herbivore, it was fun at the begingin of evirma, but not its boring and tedious to play this way, it makes legacy herb play look better
grass would be good if it actuall gave you any worth while food points
proud coral
But in legacy if you couldn't find food, you'd just die. At least in Evrima you have grass to stave off starvation
And it fills up to 20% of your hunger. That's plenty considering grass is literally everywhere
mighty nexus
its just delaying the eventual out come
proud coral
Unless you keep moving and find food
mighty nexus
ive tried grazing, it dosent fill anything, it just stagnates at whatever food level your sitting at
ive starved so many times as a herb trying to graze and move to find food, even while sniffing for it
proud coral
That's because it's just to prevent starving. If you're above 20% food, it won't do anything
I haven't had much trouble finding food before, I guess it's different for everybody <:I
brave rampart
Grazing in the future is going to be used as a last resort due to it not giving you the required nutrients.
I'd keep it like this but that being said, we need more boosh.
dapper pulsar
the snake is planned
mighty nexus
either give more food or make grazing better, those are the options, take em or leave em
do one, i really dont care which but do on or the other
low canopy
what i can see people do currently is just ignore bushes and sit at below 20% food just to be able to play with others (there isn't enough food on the map to sustain herd)
random sail
@sturdy kayak That video is not official... it's some random dude who is good at hacking and impersonating. The only animations we are are certain of are the ones we saw a year ago on The Isle's YouTube channel; not even those are set in stone. Not trying to disagree with you, but we can't make assumptions or suggestions on anything yet.
sturdy kayak
<@!340027341986332673> That video is not official... it's some random dude who i...
Thank you for that information, and yes i understand it is still in the works, however if you go to the road map it seems like most of it is complete... I am just restating and adding to some of the prior suggestions that have been made, which include suggestions for the current launch animations and landing animations, I have seen some actual game play from a few months ago, which doesn't seem much different from the recent one, so I am assuming the albatross run and airplane like landing is still on the table, but just a suggestion like many others.
random sail
Thank you for that information, and yes i understand it is still in the works, h...
Okay nice, just wanted to make sure you were informed. 🙂
sturdy kayak
Okay nice, just wanted to make sure you were informed. 🙂
Thank you 🙂
barren zephyr
@willow hinge pterosaurs can actually take off immediately from hatching (their wing membranes will have developed by then)
willow hinge
Maybe he shouldn't as hatchling. Every bird can't fly after hatch🤔
barren zephyr
But pterosaurs can, because we know this.
They probably didn't rely on a lot of parental care, save for a bit of feeding and guarding in the first few weeks.
But a baby ptera without parents could easily survive via scavenging since it can already fly.
narrow sorrel
xd
edgy hamlet
@molten goblet Every Legacy Dino except Pue will come back, theres also models for them already
molten goblet
<@!795599302483116052> Every Legacy Dino except Pue will come back, theres also ...
yesssssssss thanks alot
edgy hamlet
np :d
tawdry holly
When will we be able to pay the updated version? I wanna pounce as a Utah :3
edgy hamlet
You wont have to pay if you already have legacy, just gotta change versions
tawdry holly
?.?
tawdry holly
I play the isle on steam
barren zephyr
Legacy and Evrima
tawdry holly
Oooh
barren zephyr
Lemme show a pic
tawdry holly
Ok
barren zephyr
tawdry holly
barren zephyr
So. Properties > betas select Evrima. No need to pay or anything, it's free as long as you've bought The Isle.
tawdry holly
I'm almost home, imma try this
barren zephyr
You have to then install the beta
edgy hamlet
yeah, press on evrima like in the screenshot, then you have to install it and youre good
paper oriole
No pteranodon shouldn't can't eat grass
It's not a chicken
If anything oviraptors are our chickens
white spruce
@willow hinge pterosaurs gained the ability to fly very early on in their lives in comparison to birds, possibly even at birth
barren zephyr
@scenic lintel
We can expect water will be improved in the next update
barren zephyr
That's why you use capitals
safe galleon
ngl that’s pretty xd
azure wadi
Stop.
safe galleon
ok sorry xD
barren zephyr
This isnt tourism game
azure wadi
Another person reacting to their own suggestion with a check 
paper geyser
pretty sure that exact person has complained about those issues a few times before
azure wadi
Demon and angel look like BoB skins, I’m not a fan of those skins
wary sparrow
I like the original and reeses but yea the other 2 have no place in the isle
safe galleon
reeses and og are good, other 2 feel out of place
paper oriole
Surprised the bone licker suggestion is still up since joke suggests are usually erased lol
azure wadi
Who said it was a joke
paper oriole
Idk it definitely looks and sounds like one
frank slate
@manic knoll It's a bug
manic knoll
idle ibex
lets just agree that megalania would be badass
azure wadi
no.
paper oriole
Big lizard go brrr
azure wadi
no.
idle ibex
the isle takes place in the modern world, there are modern birds flying around
the dinosaurs were manufactured most probablly
why would they not experiment on lizards, thus giving a reason for megalania to exist in the lore aswell
forgot to mention theres buildings on the island aswell
simply put if your researching dinosaurs who literally look like lizards in your own iteration
safe galleon
mega is soft confirmed
idle ibex
why would you not experiment on a giant lizard?
it fits in good with the lore imo, and would be a fun playable gives something for dilo mains to jerk off to
nothing was mentioned about it having great nightvision as well
so it will actually require SOME skill
azure wadi
How is scientists experimenting on lizards a good reason for mega to be in game
idle ibex
look im not a person crazed for lore, put simply. megalania adds in:
a bleeder
a generalist bleeder
the ability to counter burrowers
possibility to swim to catch up to small things in the water making camping water less viable
soft competition for cerato (only see this if they are in a pair or so)
more to flesh out the swampy biomes and possibly beaches, komodos tend to hunt things that get on beaches
a carnivore who gets representation and isnt a dino
a dope ass lizard
definitely more
azure wadi
If it aint a dinosaur or not from the Mesozoic I’m not a fan
azure wadi
Yes
Also because all the things you listed about it are just features of other cooler creatures, nothing new
idle ibex
what?
i just said what megalania would add, all the possibilities
i listed other creatures as examples to interactions it could have
glass mulch
@thorn linden I think the idea itself is pretty cool however this would be extremly EXTREMLY meta, an animal with good bleed could just bite its prey once and then leave it be, for example, if i choose to play Acrocanthosaurus and bite a Shantungasaurus and then run away it would go to wallow (since otherwise it would bleed out) which would give it sepsis which would then go and get the antibiotic plant (where ever they are) and then if it does not find it, i can just kill it, and if it finds it i can just bite it again
The idea of getting a disease while wallowing is the problem
twin burrow
Ya, this seems extremely meta and luck based
glass mulch
I would be more fond of animals eating the wrong plant (if herbivore) or carnivores eating rotten meat which would give you a sickness you could either; Wait out and get more debuffs or have to find something else to eat which could potenitally heal it
thorn linden
I tried my best to avoid that whith the timer but i get what you mean and it fair
twin burrow
Rotten flesh and eating plants that specific herbivore has a hard time digesting would make more sense
thorn linden
Rotten flesh and eating plants that specific herbivore has a hard time digesting...
Yeah that is true but i wanted to tie those mechanics togheter but i get your point now i see what you mean
Tho i guess you can just make antibiotic plants be quite common and easy to find(via smell lets say) and also make the timer until sepsis by huge
pale schooner
This is literally land giga shark
hybrid matrix
This is literally land giga shark
candygram??
twin burrow
Ok then
pale schooner
?
hybrid matrix
its from an snl skit
twin burrow
Dunno what that is, but alright
hybrid matrix
SNL, saturday night live??
pale schooner
It’s Off topic
Though yeah I know snl
Anyway, disease should be from eating bad food
hybrid matrix
ok, well there was a skit about a land shark and it said candygram to try and get u to open the door, hence y i said candygram
twin burrow
mighty nexus
i like the ideas for pelagornis ive see, very interesting and i really like your art @inner hound it really reminds me of the old dino dossiers from back in the day
inner hound
ty 
mighty nexus
do you have a deviantart or artstation?
night mountain
Adore that pela infographic
Would be cool if when eating a corpse it got that giant Petra bloodstain on it until it went in water or something
Petrel*
mighty nexus
like this
inner hound
petrels literally dont bother for blood, they put their whole head inside carcasses which is
i love them. theyre gorgeous and so underestimated
inner hound
pela 3 call pose
thorn linden
I love it
I will make a haast suggeation one of this days and i will make sure people love it
proud coral
paper geyser
pela t pose
warm flame
chai is a feathery confirmed
blissful onyx
Weve both gone dino mad. Chai is pela mad and I am cherry mad
night mountain
My favorite part is they apparently just smell fucking horrible for no reason
barren zephyr
add what chai said or im sueing the world
warm flame
they have an astounding smell, pretty sure they mean sense of smell but I wanna think that it means they smell bad
or maybe smell good
who knows
inner hound
they are great in smelling. their tube like beaks help with that
warm flame
but how does a pela smell? does it smell good?
does it smell like fish or does it smell like poptarts?
carmine path
Down with the poptarts pela
What does the current design for spinosaurus look like for Ervima I have yet to see it and want to compare it to the most recent depiction of spinosaurus
proud coral
terse hornet
@carmine path its swimming around somewhere in #phase-two-archive
random sail
@thorny crag The Isle is not meant to be played on controller... it has options but keyboard is easier. I have a 4k monitor and I don't have any issues. That might be something about your specific monitor.
@upbeat marten I think that is coming with update 3, but if it doesn't I 100% agree with you.
upbeat marten
I hope its coming cause it would give the deino more of an advantage in the water then it already does
considering everyone could just put their camera in the water and just see perfectly to check for deinos which I dont think is very realistic not to mention takes the fun away from the deino getting the jump on you
thorny crag
<@!276910116413112321> The Isle is not meant to be played on controller... it ha...
If it has Controller options that are executed very badly I can point that out. It would be a great couch game but as of now only playable while sitting at the pc. Ye we tried playing it on a 4k TV monitor. Maybe that's it. But it's a 1k € monitor. Isle is not optimized so I expect them to look into that cause many ppl have graphics issues on max settings.
Btw every game is optimized for controller. It's not even hard to program
Even counterstrike can be played on controller. We will try programming it with xpadder tomorrow
Half the settings for keyboard aren't there for controller it's so weird. Very half heartedly executed.
random sail
That's because literally no one plays The Isle on controller... literally no one. I am not trying to be rude, it is just the reality.
barren zephyr
@upbeat marten
Devs said that it is a bug currently as when Update 2 released you couldn't see very well... it was 'murky'.
But in the recently released hotfix, which implemented Human buildings, swamp water visibility was ruined.
To what was said.
It will be either fixed in a hotfix before Update 3, or in its update... as we might be getting the new Unreal engine update into Update 3
barren zephyr
That's because literally no one plays The Isle on controller... literally no one...
Actually i use controller to get cinematic panning
thorny crag
Not true my friend. They don't play it on controller cause it's awfully optimized. I doubt you know every isle player. Not try to be rude but realistic.
thorny crag
Did you use a program to get all settings on the controller? Lightclaw
random sail
I am talking about actually playing the game, controller can be good for videos.
barren zephyr
And i really need a proper controller optimization.
I don't game with controller, but the ability for controller to be used at maximum potential is needed
thorny crag
Yea it would be so great if its optimized
barren zephyr
Did you use a program to get all settings on the controller? Lightclaw
No, i haven't been able to use Controller on Evrima yet
thorny crag
Ah ok. We try doing it with xpadder tomorrow. I'll post in feedback if it works
barren zephyr
Alright
thorny crag
If devs compare other games using controller and use that as inspiration.. Literally not hard to create that. Just some fiddling with button mapping
Saying it's not made to be played with controller is weird. Why would they have the option then?
random sail
they have the option for cinematic panning like Lightclaw said, they also have the option because every game does. But the isle isnt meant to be played on controller. The Isle isnt coming to console either
thorny crag
Not talking bout console. Just having it for smooth panning is just... Weird. I believe they are planning to add full support controller but it's work at takes a Lil time to do.
random sail
that could be it
thorny crag
If u are personally against it OK but try not to make it look like isle isn't meant to support controller
random sail
but idk why you would want to play on controller, makes the isle 10 times harder
thorny crag
It's just a different type if input device
U don't have to aim in isle as dino. If u dislike it well but that's a desicion every player can make on their own
I'd like to sit on the couch and play it without mouse and keyboard
barren zephyr
I just need some good controller optimization.
Wanting to create some Evrima films soon, and pain is real with mouse and keys
thorny crag
Works for almost every single pc game ever made so why not isle. Just pointed out how shitty it is in feedback so devs may see it
random sail
If you want to play on controller, that's fine. Who am I to tell you, but I dont see it benefiting. Everyone else will be on keyboard, and since keyboard is easier to control, it will make surviving harder
thorny crag
Even turning isn't smooth on controller like whyy
Some don't play this game all that seriously. It's just a game. Comfortable gaming is very nice
barren zephyr
If you want to play on controller, that's fine. Who am I to tell you, but I dont...
I think it really helps people who are more use to console then PC.
Alongside, controllers allow for more smoother gameplay when looking (not graphics wise)
thorn glacier
I dont even see why this is an argument
People have different play styles, who cares!
Controller optimization is good for the few that prefer controllers
thorny crag
^
barren zephyr
Didn't see it as an argument XD
Just it's silly that Evrima doesn't have controller optimization.
But, excuse, Evrima is still in early development
thorny crag
Just the "isn't meant to work that way" and "why even do it" part
Just pointed out its crappy. I mainly use it on pc but tried to get it work on PC, to TV and Couch with controller and failed.
Guess they gonna fix that one day
barren zephyr
Sadly we gotta wait until devs say something about it
thorny crag
Ye let's hope
Maybe it seems like wasted effort to ppl who dislike using controller
But adding half done controller support is pretty sad in my book
random sail
I apologize for turning this into an argument, you can play how you please, but the isle is never coming to console as Dondi once said (if i remember correctly) so it just wouldn't be ideal. However, if you like playing that way, then go ahead 🙂
random sail
because normally when you play console, its on a couch with a controller
im comparing it
there isnt a difference except the platform
thorny crag
Dunno what to say. I just meant controller. I give no crap about console
Many people play on couch with their pc using a controller
barren zephyr
Tbh, that's PoT's job to take over consoles.
The Isle is a lot better in-general, being more optimized for PCs
However, The Isle could be taken to Console... seeing as the newest gen is getting a lot better then before.
But only when the isle is finished will it most probably be taken to console
barren zephyr
@tight oxide
I believe you have to put up your particle quality up
tight oxide
<@482740571471872000>
I believe you have to put up your particle quality up
How lol
barren zephyr
Go to your settings
tight oxide
K
molten goblet
ok so like im playing as a hypsi and when i hold down q it points me tomeat but im a herbi? someone plz help
proud coral
Herbivores can smell meat so they know to avoid that area since there's likely danger there.
molten goblet
Herbivores can smell meat so they know to avoid that area since there's likely d...
fair enough but i cant smell bushes anywhere
barren zephyr
fair enough but i cant smell bushes anywhere
Bushes are hard to find, i suggest going somewhere else and far away
molten goblet
Bushes are hard to find, i suggest going somewhere else and far away
fml ok, why haven tthey added more bushes? i feel like there should be more
compact hare
This will be worked in diets update, probably. You cant starve as herbi btw
barren zephyr
True, however they want it to be hard to find bushes. That's why it's a survival
molten goblet
is there a reason herbis dont starve?
molten goblet
fair point
thanks for the help fellas
oh and also is there like a map online for evrima where i can plug my cords into and it shows me where i am, kinda like the one for legacy
hexed summit
theres an evrima option in the dropdown box
molten goblet
aight thanks
thorn glacier
Cool idea for the Utah jump, but Utah is already broken enough
night mountain
make utah unable to jump like irl
azure wadi
The idea of pterasaurs picking up small live animals sounds horrible
twin burrow
Funny because the devs actually said they won't allow the pick up of live players, so.
azure wadi
make utah unable to jump like irl
No.
barren zephyr
Not to mention Pterosaur feet aren't even prehensile
azure wadi
It would be like me trying to pick up a small dog with my feet, it just doesn’t work
azure wadi
That’s why I made that comparison
barren zephyr
Yep
blissful wren
A pterosaur trying to grab someone would just not work
If it even somehow managed, it’d probably die
thin fulcrum
Cant really interpret the "hums" into 4 different calls, would be a cool F call tho...
vast wolf
@abstract zealot buildings arent causing the lag in evrima. its just that the games not optimized as of yet.
abstract zealot
oh sorry@vast wolf
vast wolf
its all good, a lot of the lag from legacy was caused by foliage and shaders.
thats not as much of the case in evrima and its just the servers having a hard time tracking players and everything at once for a long time.
abstract zealot
okk
thorny crag
also the shadows have some sort of issue in isle, idk what they did with it
plus there is still lag when something loads into your field of view. idk if that's a think they can fix
cobalt compass
@indigo verge you're one of his friends and new to this dc? please read the rules. comments for feedback is appreciated it posted in the responsive -discussion channel
hybrid matrix
@sacred minnow as long as u mean without the roars then yea thats awesome
white spruce
I honestly don't understand why people keep suggesting they hire this one guy. Did he apply for the job or something?
hybrid matrix
wut guy
white spruce
Gunter
hybrid matrix
oh
white spruce
What are the devs supposed to do? Kidnap him and force him to work on the game?
hybrid matrix
well duh
thats the only way to hire someone
otherwise they can quit whenever they want to
white spruce
They also seem to presume that our models can jiggle like those seemingly more high quality models. I don't think Gunter there is animating with video games in mind.
Like shit, yeah, it would be cool if the game could have us move as fluidly as a dinosaur documentary. Shame that we still need some way to control it.
if they actually did hire gunter, he probably wouldn't be able to do animations like these regardless. Animating for a game is vastly different from animating for a show.
thorny crag
True
solid wedge
otherwise they can quit whenever they want to
solid wedge
if they actually did hire gunter, he probably wouldn't be able to do animations ...
maybe they can ask for the rex sounds
abstract lark
@sturdy kayak could you not have just ran away from the area or got ready to set up an ambush on them
compact hare
@dire ridge read #moderation
dire ridge
Ok my bad
dapper pulsar
Since we're near hitting the standards set by Dinosaur Simulator(Roblox), it seems the community has devolved to their strats.
dire ridge
What is Beipi ?
dire ridge
Oh 👌
sturdy kayak
<@!340027341986332673> could you not have just ran away from the area or got rea...
It followed me to where I was safelogging at, and on top of DCing multiple times
barren zephyr
@eternal owl
I could imagine ourano being added, it's predator being either Carchar or Spino
However it doesn't really seem to have anything special about it
Every playable in the isle evrima, as you know, has a certain special ability that makes it different from everything else.
Unless it could do something that would make it different and people would want to play it... it would need something that makes it special
eternal owl
Mud tier semi aquatic herbivore
I don't know Ourano wasn't the only suggestion
I also said Stupendymys
barren zephyr
True
barren zephyr
@supple egret
I'll write a large suggestion for that soon! We need it
supple egret
<@322509708730564613>
I'll write a large suggestion for that soon! We need it
Agreed, sounds good!
barren zephyr
Yeah!
paper geyser
yeah i agree, loud sniffing seems like a flat disadvantage to carnivores in pretty much every situation
tepid gate
Indeed sniffing is a bit too loud, today I pretty much left the game and afked for some time in a bush and realised that someone was around me because I could hear them sniff from yards away. The sound should probably not be quite as loud as it is now.
glacial horizon
Troodon can just be renamed to a species it was merged into, simple as that
doesn't need a model change or anything just a name change
arctic nimbus
@jagged heath Or rename it to Latenivenatrix or Stenonychosaurus, but people wouldn't like that.
night mountain
rename it velociraptor
paper oriole
Rename it Troodondi
urban bear
@jagged heath its a video game that isn't meant to be realistic there's things like hypos coming to the game and different strains i don't think it would really matter
thorn glacier
<@!613876810928750592> its a video game that isn't meant to be realistic there'...
Thats true, but excluding the cannibals and tribals and such, there's no other animal in the game that's just fake. Strains are exaggerated versions of dinos, but they aren't just fake dinos. Troodon literally isn't a real thing. Its like adding a dragon into the isle with no lore explanation.
However they could rename troodon to one of the two animals it was grouped in with and not change the model and it'd be fine
paper oriole
Apollo creates the dinos who often dont even look like their irl counterparts it's not that far fetched that they'd still decide to use the name Troodon for their little abomination they created
Especially considering it's not either of the animals suggested as a rename
thorn glacier
That's fair enough, but still I'd kind of like to see at least a nod to it being misnamed in the lore. Maybe not anything big, but just a little, "we call it "troodon" but it's actually insert name here" in a mercs journal or something
paper oriole
Honestly naming it troodon is better than renaming it to an actual animal it is very inaccurate to, like what they're doing with anky and spino
night mountain
lmao just say you used the dna of something in the family but lost the labels so just bullshitted it and called it troodon
dense wagon
They're renaming Anky and Spino?
i don't think that's what trike meant
dapper pulsar
That example's a bit too generous.
paper oriole
Na im saying the anky and spino we have dont deserve to be called anky and spino, just like troodon doesn't deserve the name of any irl dino as it isn't really accurate to one, so it is better off with the fictional name
thorn glacier
I wish Anky would be more like Saurians anky
Not even for realism sake but just because Saurians anky is beautiful
paper oriole
Idc if they add fictional aspects to anky, but it should still be the walking tank/fortress it is supposed to be
thorn glacier
Oh I agree, but I like saurians anky and I think something like that would be very, very nice looking
paper oriole
Yeah their anky is pretty hot
dapper pulsar
Ok, so, I've just looked at the JWE Troodon and they're very similar excluding colors. I wanna know: Is that a valid comparison? The JWE Troodon's just kinda a generic.
azure wadi
I don’t know what you’re talking about, that’s clearly a cheetah 
dapper pulsar
I feel it'd be more accurate to place a cat tail and head on a bear.
azure wadi
No it makes more sense to put spots on a lion because it’s just a short faced baryonx with a sail
dapper pulsar
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Shit I'm dumb
Wait no
maybe
You've confused me
night mountain
its like calling this a rex
thorn glacier
Why his arms do that 👁👁️
frail light
Will there likely be any fully aquatic or semi aquatic creatures besides Deinosuchus added to the game?
paper oriole
we have more semi aquatics coming, including minmi and beipiao
small herbivore and omnivore
azure wadi
We don’t have any of those confirmed yet
barren zephyr
none confirmed but there was like mosasaurus holding tank concept art. I can see it happening later down the line
@barren zephyr
LOD is being fixed in Update 3.
While during dondis xmas stream when playing as a ptera, it didn't look back.
It was pretty good, alongside the photo by Punch in the roadmap update
oh derp I didn't see the roadmap update picture, he updates the message
thank u
No worries!
I'm here to clarify the confusion
frail light
It would be cool to see some marine creatures or other freshwater based creatures
tepid vigil
its like calling this a rex
Torvosaurus be like:
tepid vigil
Jokes a side i genuinely like the megalosaurids
barren zephyr
same they're super ripped
cobalt compass
its like calling this a rex
did you just fuse a rex with utah's jaws and spino's limbs?
night mountain
allos arms lol
cobalt compass
okay, but looks cool
paper oriole
don't really see the purpose of adding competition for mono, he already has utah and dilo to contend with
eotyrannus would just be clutter
sonic cloud
As if mono isn't already clutter
paper oriole
exactly, he's basically just utah or dilo but without the unique abilities lol
utah without pounce and dilo without venom combine to create... monolophosaurus
azure wadi
The nose dinosaur
paper oriole
At least Mono's last-minute-idea special feature is useful unlike magy's i guess
azure wadi
What is it?
azure wadi
It makes sense when you nose makes up 50% of your face
valid zephyr
@night mountain YES great idea!
Alternate species skins as high level cosmetic perk unlocks or something. Tarbo for rex, carchar for giga, cory for para, etc.
tepid gate
That would be amazing but I don't know how feasible the idea is(and again - Tarbo is way too small to be a Rex skin). I think it might be a bit too taxing on the devs to create such elaborate rewards.
safe galleon
as long as nothing about the creatures hitbox or stats change Im all for it 
cobalt compass
iirc skins were thought of as a dlc, but i dont know how accurate it is now 🤷♂️
paper oriole
Eh tarbo could be an albert skin, its like what 3-5 feet longer?
barren zephyr
its like calling this a rex
I see nothing wrong here
safe galleon
@barren zephyr sitting still while growing makes you grow slower
barren zephyr
<@456226577798135808> sitting still while growing makes you grow slower
What do you mean?
With wrong slower?
barren zephyr
Yhea but you don't become fat
safe galleon
meant grow*
barren zephyr
I want to see fat dinos
valid zephyr
as long as nothing about the creatures hitbox or stats change Im all for it <:TI...
Yeah nothing hixbox or stat related. Just a skin in the same way picking your colour or pattern is. Just some small model tweaks to make it look more like the new version.
Anything off can be explained as genetic modification stuff.
also pue skin for brachi.
versed zodiac
@barren zephyr that's confirmed last i checked. not the fat dino part but like if while you grow you walk alot your stamina is normal but if you don't your stamina is smaller.
real kraken
Yeah, it was confirmed a while back but I dont know when they'll implement it
lucid mauve
Hey, just tried Evrima. That sound i make when im going to sleep, is that someone everyone hear or just me ? I sound like a my dad when his sleeping and i can hear him 2 miles away
real kraken
Hey, just tried Evrima. That sound i make when im going to sleep, is that someon...
Yeah everyone hears it, its so people cant log out from being hunted anymore
barren zephyr
@jagged heath the species of Troodon we have, Troodon inequalis, is technically now classified as Stenonychosaurus inequalis, but it's called Troodon in The Isle cos it sounds more menacing than Stenonychosaurus.
vast wolf
and its a common name as opposed to that mess
finite jacinth
I mean troodon should still be troodon because troodon was named in the 1800s while stenonychosaurus was named in the 1900
paper geyser
TI troodon got the velociraptor treatment
finite jacinth
I don’t want that
safe galleon
it's not getting a spit?
outer condor
It's not getting spit but it is getting venom
finite jacinth
I like venom but not spit
dire ridge
So, what's the point of alt bite for utah ?
finite jacinth
I mean they could boost alt bite damage a little so it could have use
tight oxide
Velo that pesky raptor that steals human food lol
dire ridge
I mean they could boost alt bite damage a little so it could have use
Agree, imo the regular bite should deal more bleed (because utah use his claws) and alt bite more dmg
tight oxide
Yes pls
mighty nexus
velo, the raptor the size of a dog that could rip a human's throat out give half a chance
tight oxide
Watch utah just get a galli kick...
tight oxide
velo, the raptor the size of a dog that could rip a human's throat out give half...
Fear the chicken
mighty nexus
yes XD
mighty nexus
i mean if its staying the size its always been in the game
mighty nexus
finite jacinth
That doesn’t sound right
tight oxide
Velo will get pounce sooo...
Humans are just gonna fear velos out of the whole roster
finite jacinth
Unless they become surprisingly easy to kill
tight oxide
I mean
I feel like devs would make velo viable
Not as viable as bob velo
That velo was too op
finite jacinth
Bob velo broken
tight oxide
Ikrrr
finite jacinth
It can take down dinos twice it’s size
tight oxide
I saw one kill a rex...
finite jacinth
I saw one kill a apato
finite jacinth
That why this velo better not be broken like bobs
mighty nexus
well if troodon is going to be viable, and it isnt that much bigger then velo
tight oxide
Velo vs troodon hmmmm
finite jacinth
But troodon has venom
safe galleon
velo pretty useless rn, nothing too unique about it
tight oxide
Velo got bleed i guess
finite jacinth
I think troodon may have better night vision to
finite jacinth
And troodon packs
finite jacinth
But they are obviously pack hunters
finite jacinth
Dilo 1 call at night
mighty nexus
im still more scared of anything in this size range, because their size automatically makes buildings unsafe
tight oxide
Lol
barren zephyr
Troodon is planned as this asshole venomous pack hunter, and that's a dumb idea that rips off a rather good JP game
finite jacinth
Dilo probably gonna be annoying to
tight oxide
Dilo and utah are equal footing
safe galleon
unless biglo happens
tight oxide
Utah can jump is faster sooo...
finite jacinth
Utah’s have a advantage at day but when it’s night dilos rule
safe galleon
a pretty good advantage
tight oxide
But couldnt utah run you down if it saw u
safe galleon
only if it sees where you go
tight oxide
I just remembered
finite jacinth
But the dilo always know where you are
mighty nexus
im hoping we get better nightvision then this black and white nonsense
tight oxide
Yup
Isnt night vision in real life way better for animals lol
Humans gonna be lucky
finite jacinth
Night vision was so boring in legacy
safe galleon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/796088899864756274/Biglo3.png waiting for this
tight oxide
Accurate
finite jacinth
I want magyosaurus
mighty nexus
yes, it acts more like a brightness filter, so for some animals that dont have good night vision, humans or a trike for example, it will just be dark, but for something that has good night vision like a cat or a raptor, they can see at night as if it were still day
tight oxide
So you mean
Dilo gonna see night like day
But utah
Can see like sun going dark
?
finite jacinth
Give the army guys good night vision but the tribals not so good
finite jacinth
Would be cool if tribals could make like tiny villages
tight oxide
Maybe
finite jacinth
And setup defenses
tight oxide
But if humans got growth system it gonna be a pain
finite jacinth
I don’t think they will get growth system
finite jacinth
Because you gonna get carnivores eating babies
mighty nexus
ok best example i can give where thats how night vision was implemented like a brightness filter is archoteck, nightvision was like turing up your gamma and each dino had a set degree it got to
finite jacinth
And the carnivores would feel bad
finite jacinth
But human child
finite jacinth
True
tight oxide
Lets be honest
finite jacinth
It’s hard to make babies look cute in games
paper oriole
I want humans to have growth just so i can eat baby
tight oxide
I want humans to have growth just so i can eat baby
Why
paper oriole
Why not
tight oxide
Sounds messed up tho XD
finite jacinth
Bad thing with humans having a growth system is that it would be very boring
tight oxide
Go for it
paper oriole
Human baby is annoying, eat baby
finite jacinth
If they did get growth it better be pretty fast
tight oxide
Humans prob take the longeat to reach full grown in real life
I think trex got full grown or mature at 18
paper oriole
99.999999999% sure humans wont have growth that'd be dumb, even if it would be fun to eat baby
paper oriole
Maybe tribals will have children if anything
tight oxide
Watch humans grow in 30 min
finite jacinth
I feel like humans are gonna be easy to kill tho
safe galleon
a tier system would make more sense
tight oxide
How about
paper oriole
Baby is easy to kill
tight oxide
Humans nest or somethin could spawn babies?
paper oriole
Human nest
finite jacinth
Human nest
paper oriole
Human nest for make baby
finite jacinth
What if tribals could pick a town made by other tribals to spawn in
paper oriole
Humans could set up beach spawns for buddies to spawn in on boats, or airdrop bases
finite jacinth
Also humans should be able to forage
tight oxide
Watch 90% of dino playerbase camp human spawns
paper oriole
Airdrop bases would be risk because dino players could see delicious human falling from sky for some distance
tight oxide
Yes
finite jacinth
And what if tribals have to craft weapons
finite jacinth
Poor man ark
tight oxide
Punching trees
paper oriole
I want tribals to be able to steal guns and use them as blunt melee weapons that can sometimes fire at random
tight oxide
Punching rocks
finite jacinth
I was rather thinking of sharpening a stick
tight oxide
Oooo
paper oriole
Let tribals and small handsy dinos break into cars and drive them with 0 control destroying everything in their path and then themselves
tight oxide
Spears would be kinda op against apexes
Trex were slower than humans if im not wrong
finite jacinth
Alt turn
safe galleon
doubt it will be faster in game
tight oxide
Humans throws spear
finite jacinth
Heck throw
arctic nimbus
what if utah had the worthless rat niche- oh wait
safe galleon
what if we deleted utah
tight oxide
Isnt utah like the isles mascot in a way
safe galleon
in a bad way
safe galleon
roleplayes, docktahs, portahs, annoying assriders claiming they are good at the game, annoying calls, ugly model
safe galleon
everyone has their own opinion and I respect that, but that's wrong
tight oxide
Whats your fav model?
safe galleon
cera, giga, pachy, para, taco, dilo and more
safe galleon
second one
zinc anvil
2016 utah model xD
arctic nimbus
Personally I wouldn't hate Utahraptor if it wasn't some unoriginal copypasta
safe galleon
the second model is just the most tolerable
tight oxide
B)
edgy harbor
@north onyx I'm not sure if that's meant to be comments on #general-feedback ? Or just your own feedback?
north onyx
just my own feedback cuz i didnt add it all in as one big paragraph...
edgy harbor
Ah okay
I'd suggest just, condensing it all, so people can upvote the whole thing
but thats just me
north onyx
i probably should. gimme a sec ill fix it
real kraken
@north onyx Austro was in the game at the very start
edgy harbor
north onyx
tbh i think itd be a good idea. giving more variety than just...getting a raptor or carno. cuz right now thats the only meat eater options we got other than deino coming in. which all 3 are HUGE compared to a micro. itd be a good starter if u wanna start small. specially if its a players first time ever playing as a meat eater.
safe galleon
fish
finite jacinth
Fish boring
north onyx
seeing all the peoples votes make me happy. im glad people agree. itd be cute to see it in game. the picture i used is just a model design i found online i dont take claim to that tho i wish i could model that good
barren zephyr
@sudden hinge What would torvo bring to the roster?
it seems like just another big dino boi
albeit a chad one
safe galleon
torvo could be made into an allo skin
barren zephyr
I mean torvo just feels like a bigger allo
Even allo is more unique with a possibility for a grapple or pounce-ish thing
arctic nimbus
I would like to see Torvo use its arms just as much as its jaws.
barren zephyr
a slow legacy carno is my best comparison
just a basic carnivore, but using it's arms sounds like a good idea
but then how would it use it's arms
in a way that makes it unique and not another grappler
sudden hinge
Torvo could take a more generalist role that the allo used to have in legacy
Torvo wouldn’t need a grapple but giving it as a secondary attack like a heavy claw smack could definitely do damage to smaller prey items and competitors
sudden hinge
Cera is a opportunitistic hunter scavenger with generalist qualities but isn’t necessarily a full generalist
Torvo wouldn’t have a need to scavenge as much and wouldn’t have the digestive system of cera
barren zephyr
well you've got an idea there
that sounds actually nice for a carni
as someone who absolutely in love with the old super generalist allo, seeing it get an evrima port sounds wonderful
arctic nimbus
This Torvo 😳😳
sudden hinge
That’s what I’m saying I’m not a huge allo fan but I love torvo and giving allos old niche to torvo I think makes more sense
Yup that’s torvo
sudden hinge
Eyyyy that’s what I’m talking about lol
arctic nimbus
We can always ask the people in #paleotalk about Torvo and understand its capabilities. It might not have to even be fictionalized to be good.
or different
sudden hinge
True that works too
sudden hinge
Oh my god terrifying
jagged heath
@inner hound I saw your pela thing and I noticed a problem, technically a baby pelagornis would be stupidly slow, it wouldn't be able to run from predators, making it only viable as a sub/adult
blissful onyx
@barren zephyr i really like this idea, its a great way to provide and incentive to keep weaker elders around
safe galleon
why would you @ the admins for a tribal suggestion 
azure wadi
blissful onyx
pretty sure they are younger just dont worry about it too hard
barren zephyr
<@456226577798135808> i really like this idea, its a great way to provide and in...
Exactly! A reason to keep em with you
blissful onyx
yeah i really like it, its a good way enforce that behavior without being over complicated
inner hound
@jagged heath chicks of birds are rather fast though. especially birds that are able to float or swim.
ie. Duck chicks
I dont see a problem with hatch-juvi pelagornis, if the same goes for them such as rl duck chicks
due to petrels, albatrosses and such being able to even run on water when starting their flight. i dont see a problem them being too slow as younglings
https://youtu.be/2in9A9lQQY4 young grebe example
jagged heath
<@!613876810928750592> chicks of birds are rather fast though. especially birds ...
Thats the problem tho, this is a pelagornis we're talking about, not a duckling, and as you showed in the picture, pelagornis would've been the size of a pteranadon, plus in the picture, the baby is small and, dare I say f a t... meaning it would have to use water as an escape route. but then another problem arises: it wouldn't be able to dive underwater because it wouldn't be able to dive far in the first place, but it wouldn't have the lung capacity to stay underwater. and with deinosuchus coming out, babies would eat baby pelagornis as a small snack.
inner hound
the duckling was an example.
as i said before many baby bird chicks are fast by nature.
nor did i mention that it needs to dive
but float
many animals in this game get fictionalized to some extent, so can pelagornis.
i mean babies rn are incredibly fast
jagged heath
Well i mean... its somethin to think about ;-;
inner hound
it is. but i dont see the problem with it being unviable and slow
rl baby chicks of any bird species are rather fast and robust than we might think
north onyx
i like the idea of making the swamps more 'lively' tho. via all the small things being added as AI
since swamps are normally super noisey/bustling with life
north onyx
yes! specially the poison dart frog option for troodons. itd be perfect
inner hound
maybe even some dragonflys buzzin around would be pog
north onyx
specially also. think of it this way. u make the mistake of eating it and ur not a troodon u poison urself
inner hound
would be cool
north onyx
itd make the troodons poison/venom bite more of a reason. like the frogs are part of its staple diet. and thats why its so dangerous
instead of just "oh this dinos got this" without a reason.
if troodons seek out the frogs too, cuz lets say theyre decently sized/fill up the troodons feed bar really well, itd have them all swarming the swamps for them and deino would have a hay day snapping them up
and itd make the swamps a suitably dangerous place for babies to be born in.
just a idea. but to me i think the swamps should be a dangerous place. cuz of multiple reasons. lol
the snapping turtle idea would be cool too. cuz itd give something for baby deino's to hide from.
thorn glacier
the snapping turtle idea would be cool too. cuz itd give something for baby dein...
baby deinos already have adult deinos and other babies to worry about
north onyx
o true
versed zodiac
@tight oxide theres.......... um a problem with that suggestion. its the fact that utah dwarfs ptera. im not sure you aware but ptera is actually very small and realistically might be able to pick up a velo. troodon is even i lttle bit big. ptera is about the size of dryo.
tight oxide
Did not relize lol
urban flax
You mean, the one I was talking about ? Nah, it's this one
dapper pulsar
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I love that thing to death but it isn't really concept art. None the less I support it.
Add it to your suggestion, It'd probably sway future "x"s.
or make an extension with the image to clarify.
urban flax
Yeah, you're right. I'm going to do it right now
dapper pulsar
since the first option isn't actually possible.
IT IS
Okay actually maybe aquatic Spino can be physically changing. I love this thing
barren zephyr
that is so adorable and derpy I want to hug that thing
barren zephyr
sailboat fisher boy
glass cliff
Hi, it's just a question. See, I have a computer mac and I love dinosaurs and I would like to play this game. Could you tell me if there is a version of the game for mac or how to download it?
carmine path
@glass cliff you have to download it on steam there is a MAC version for this, once you download it and make an account you can buy the game for $20.00USD
glass cliff
o ok thanks
carmine path
BTW Steam is a game launcher and is very reputable so don't be skeptical
dapper pulsar
Let me access the doc ya foc
paper oriole
How did that torvosaurus suggestion get so many upvotes when it has 0 ideas for its niche/mechanics/literally anything
barren zephyr
We'll never know
dapper pulsar
It has all the requirements for a good suggestion
-Torvosaurus
-Prehistoric Kingdom
barren zephyr
teehee big dino :O
zenith onyx
@mellow steppe what does that reaction spelling mean?
im confused as to what u meant
mellow steppe
zenith onyx
oh oops
dapper pulsar
It's locked.
zenith onyx
FIxed it
dapper pulsar
In my mind strains would not be effected at all by my idea, or you'd become 'em by going the neutral path.
If you're saying those should be strains, no.
merry roost
i enjoy frog spino i dont know why people dont like the idea, jp3 based spino is pog but short legged one is even more pog,
also tech i dont think magy would entirely fit that since yea its faster its still a chunky sauropod i doubt it be able to become a fst mountain goat
paper oriole
jp spino is gross, it is just wasteful to take a unique aquatic apex theropod and turn it into rex with long face
merry roost
it doesnt need to fit the same niche to fight rex, it can prob give em hell but long leg man no, short leg aqua man better, can litterally go in water to escape apexes and take its niche it was meant for
kinda like how it was already with carch
they did fight but they both had their niches
and not be the same one
barren zephyr
Most large carnivores tend to avoid eachother, I'm pretty sure
But since this is The Isle, people tend to have fights for no good reason
urban flax
Goat magy is kinda weird, but at least it's not another poison magy suggestion. So I support it.
merry roost
wait the ones where biting one would cuase side effects becuase i kinda agree with em
if it doesnt get it of course but we have to wait for that one
dapper pulsar
IRL Spino is unique and would function perfectly fine in The Isle.
Also Homalo goat
merry roost
yes