general-feedback-discussion

[edgy hamlet]

but tbh i think players will nest anyways

[idle ibex]

one question regarding cerato, would it have a weaker bite than carno? i get the broader snout means higher biteforce thing, but it does seem little odd if carno both had a stronger bite AND was faster than cerato. not many ways to escape them in that case other than the water, but by the time cerato is out deinosuchus populations will be stable

which means most likely, considering many carnivores stay by center or areas with alot of people. deinos would too, and i think deinos would just camp out ceratos to escape trough water at that point. it doesnt seem that strong

btw i know its a scavenger generalist

[tepid gate]

Higher agility and decent speed should be enough, if it can maneuver through dense jungles with ease it will be perfectly viable against Carno. I think it should have either similar or slightly higher biteforce.

[dapper pulsar]

Cerato seems like it should have a stronger bite.

[idle ibex]

yeah, cerato cant exactly run away from a carno

unless it hides in a forest or jungle

so i think giving it the ability to fight back against carnos and run away from allos would be nice

[tepid gate]

You can run away from Carno as a smaller Carno that's slower than adult. I don't think Cerato will have that much trouble

[fresh pelican]

Back to nesting, it's simply that if there's not much benefit for the parents to nest, most players will choose not to bother like in legacy

[idle ibex]

as long as they dont bring in a "baby buff" bob feature, for parents

i think a good idea for nesting would be: children have a chance at either receiving a 1% or 2% increase of the effectiveness to some perks, or they just plain get some perks from their parents (way less balanced imo). parents would have the benefit of: getting more pack members, perhaps something else as well? im not sure, i think that would have to be looked into

so if something say increases your jump height by 5%

you would get 6% or 7%

[thorny crag]

Maybe if magy eats too much of poison plant it instantly dies or so^^ lol i like how off the rail this dino seems

[edgy hamlet]

i mean on the servers im playing on theres constantly nesting people but the officials were kinda empty yeah

[thorny crag]

Many ppl nest just to play as family, not for the buffs but something extra would indeed be nice besides getting some random colors from both parents. Maybe growth buff for own offspring as long as both parents or one parent is close to help families stay together. I kinda was annoyed by how many ppl just log off during nesting. Would be nice to get certain benefits from playing as intended

[fresh pelican]

As it stands rn only the babies have any sort og benefit with nesting, and that's only for protection insteaf of spawning in alone. And that's it, downsides include an extra 30 minutes of grow time, a combination between tje mom's colors and default which doesnt always create the best skin (which can be a big turn off for some players, but isn't the end of the world). For the parents there are no ingame benefits and having a nest only requires more food. Some players like nesting and raising their babies, but many don't bother with it. I've heard many people even state that they've never even used it once. There just needs to be more incentive for both parents and offspring otherwisr in many players eyes, nesting is a waste of time

[odd token]

@vestal hound Man you were suggesting the devs to start working on tribals/humans early and the dino people just down voted you. Gives you a good picture of how all those people wanna have their dino sim and ignore the fact that its creatures against humans.

[vestal hound]

Not only that man, it would also get new players into the game aswell as solve problems with big herds and current strongest dinos being unthreatened
I mean I love playing dino but it feels like we need them worked on alongside dinos

[icy lion]

filipe's said that 2021 is the goal for humans

[urban flax]

I'd love to see humans into the game before the end of the year

[vestal hound]

yeah they also said new dinos every 2 months..

what they say vs what is happening needs to be considered when looking at their plan

I am not dissing them or anything, gamedev is fucking hard

[urban flax]

They will be able to release dinos much faster once they finish core mechanics

[vestal hound]

I'd honestly consider humans are one of the main core mechanics
but I know what you mean

[urban flax]

True, they will change most of the game's balance and the way it works once they are out

[vestal hound]

also they probably have similar mechanics that influence them like the dinos
like they will also have something of a nightvision, there is probably bleeding as well etc

[urban flax]

I don't think humans will have any nightvision, except maybe for tribals. But at this point we can only assume

There are still people who believe mercs will spawn in with sniper rifles and RPGs...

As infants

[vestal hound]

well they may as well find nightvision googles or something
that are all things that could be considered when developing them paralel to dinos

[white spruce]

Ptera and deino are indeed true fishers. Ptera especially.

[thorny lynx]

And Ptera definitely was not a skimmer. It dove

[dapper pulsar]

I think the name of Update 3, while accurate, is kinda weird now

The update's too substantial to just summed up with "fish".

Doesn't matter that much though, Deino and Ptera are coming regardless of their update's title.

[hushed shadow]

@night mountain maybe instead of constantly slowing it, you'd have to get through the armor and it'd be back to normal speed, and if you couldn't, you'd just be stuck filling up more slowly

i'm not sure if this would be worth the time to implement but it'd be a nice detail

[azure wadi]

I’m hoping that you can only get nested by choosing an option when selecting your dinosaur and you got to a random nest

@glad herald I’m sorry what are you even talking about also using the reaction on your own “suggestion” is cringe

[paper oriole]

Wtf even is his feedback lmao is that supposed to be a suggestion or something

[barren zephyr]

@night mountain
It should be really only the body that is thick and hars to eat
But once it turns to gore it should be easy

[cobalt compass]

A slight reminder that QA is assisting the Moderatorteam on the Feedback channels and report obvious nonsense-ideas/trolls/unfitting feedback and suggestions.

[cobalt compass]

@barren zephyr

AI-Growth?
yes ai has growth, also could you please be more specific if you leave a post in #general-feedback

ai grows the same like player and spawns at different grow-lvl

[safe galleon]

@barren zephyr evrima so far is nothing like legacy, now every dino is actually unique with mechanichs and abilities

plus update 4 is almost all new mechanichs

and update 3 brings fishing

[barren zephyr]

just because its not like legacy doesnt mean its getting made in the same way with the same effort...so far yea the new things have been nice. mud baths, puking, all that stuff. but what i'm saying is...lets not make it another legacy. dont make it the same way. so far alot of what erivma is. is legacy. just different a little bit. i want to see the animations, or new sleep aniamtions i want to something new. not the same thing

i shouldnt really need to explain anymore. if u dont understand then i guess ur at a end

really all im saying is. just dont make it like legacy xD

we need more 1-9 calls

or something

why just keep the old 1-4?

[azure wadi]

You might have to explain a bit more because nothing of what you’re saying makes any sense, what the hell do you mean by “don’t make it the same way”? Most of evrima’s additions are nothing like legacy, there is no evidence that evrima is heading down the same path. 4 more calls what the hell would those even be

[barren zephyr]

adding new dinosaurs is important

[safe galleon]

why have more calls?

[barren zephyr]

see^?

why?

[safe galleon]

yeah explain

[azure wadi]

[barren zephyr]

because it would be nice to make other calls other than 1-54

1-4*

[safe galleon]

what purpose would they serve?

[azure wadi]

^

[barren zephyr]

the animals purpose of course

of just being animal

what else?

wouldnt u like to have more calls?

[azure wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/eye-roll-ugh-stanley-rolls-eyes-gif-9403428

[safe galleon]

so add useless calls for useless reasons to take up game development time?

got it

[barren zephyr]

or not even calls. use the other keys to do more actions

[safe galleon]

no more calls would be complicated and useless

you gotta give examples man, and good reasons why you should add them

[azure wadi]

Gilbert I think we’re wasting our time with this one

[safe galleon]

maybe, but dont give up yet

[barren zephyr]

thats why this is a discussion page

😛

[safe galleon]

so u gonna give examples and reasons or...?

[barren zephyr]

well dont rush me

[azure wadi]

It’s hard to not give up when this guy’s argument points are more broken than legacy’s code

[barren zephyr]

i'll say what i have to say when i'm ready

lol

^^

no

lol

just no

[tepid gate]

You should provide a concrete ideas and suggestions for the game rather than say "add more calls" - what calls do you want to be added exactly?

[azure wadi]

Give me a valid reason for what you’re suggesting, I’m all ears

[barren zephyr]

gonna have to wait now, i dont want to keep talking if i'm not making any sense lmao

i'll sort out wha ti want to say

and post it later in this disucssion

tab

[tepid gate]

Do so and then post that in the general feedback.

[barren zephyr]

or feedback i guess

[safe galleon]

bring back isle memes for 1 day, delete it forever if the memes aren't good

[azure wadi]

^

[barren zephyr]

y e s

[thorn glacier]

yes please

[night mountain]

yes

[solar salmon]

@solid wedge I do not agree with that suggestion

I don't think different animals would be able to talk to eachother

they can show signs of how they're feeling tho, but that's basically the calls

[solid wedge]

we can already talk to dinos in global why not make it a local global so your not talking to some random person cross the map

[cobalt compass]

cause you dont just talk to some random foreign person and understand each other

[white spruce]

I doubt global's planned for official server default settings

[solar salmon]

global is also for Admins talking to people if say there's a rulebreak

and you won't really understand another animal

[cobalt compass]

admins dont need global for such things anymore

[solar salmon]

well yea?

they do

[cobalt compass]

not really

[solar salmon]

yea?

how do they not need it?

they need to talk to people if something happens

[solid wedge]

yeah they can just join your group regardless of dino species

[cobalt compass]

they whisper to a single person an announcement

or selective announcement

[solar salmon]

and if they talk to a group of people while not being same species

[cobalt compass]

whatever you wanna call it

admins?

[solar salmon]

yea

if an Admin isn't the same species as the one rulebreaking they can talk to them in global

or if they aren't in global they make an announcement

[cobalt compass]

announcement are the banner in the top screen

[solar salmon]

Ik?

I know what announcement is

[cobalt compass]

so, where was i unclear?

[solar salmon]

?

[cobalt compass]

these are shown to the person they wanna speak to

[solar salmon]

You want a chat like local but so that different species can talk?

and I don't agree because it's dumb that a different species of animal can communicate with eachother

[cobalt compass]

new options to choose between a "global" and a "selective" announcement

only the selected person sees the "their" ann

its like the discords new answer, but only you could see it

[solar salmon]

I still don't agree with a local but for different species

doesn't make sense to me

[cobalt compass]

wait, did we just talk straight aside??

yes the seperate channel for different species doesnt make sense

[cobalt compass]

i was just refering to this of yours

multi local = bad

global also bad, imo

maybe admins get an action were they open a additional chat tab like whispering 🤷🏼‍♂️

[solar salmon]

I think global is good

If you have a community that you want to interact with I think global is greaty

great*

[hybrid matrix]

^

[solar salmon]

Let's say you want to announce that you have eggs ready, then global is the only option

if not an admin

[cobalt compass]

imo, if the global tab is locked to admins or other rank granted members, fine. but if the majority is talking in global its mostly a mess

[cobalt compass]

iirc, new nesting-system will improve that

[solar salmon]

how is nesting gonna be?

[cobalt compass]

no clue tbh

[solar salmon]

because if you're an adult and someone wants to tell you they have eggs

global is only option

[cobalt compass]

i think the old invites will be gone

[solar salmon]

that would be bad

[cobalt compass]

we already have the "Egg" option in selection screen

i'd like to see that if I want an egg, ppl with a "public" nest and ready eggs get some kind of notification

[solar salmon]

I still think the old invite system is great

because if you want to hatch in a friends nest they can just invite you when egg is ready

[cobalt compass]

than there should be a "ignore eggs" like the group invite ignore

or a "friends only"

@hybrid matrix what do you mean by "cycle through the tabs like legacy"?

[hybrid matrix]

in legacy if u pressed the brackets then u would cycle thru the chats. [ took u thru the chats counterclockwise and ] took u thru the chat clockwise

[cobalt compass]

in evrima you press enter and cycle with tab

[hybrid matrix]

yes but in legacy u didnt need to press enter and u could cycle in 2 directions

[cobalt compass]

hmm🤔

[hybrid matrix]

the legacy chat system was overall better in that sense

essentially my suggestion is to keep the chat the same visually but then add that mechanic

[azure wadi]

^

[glossy matrix]

https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401481371249541120/795646036269727764

Avaceratops did not live with Albertosaurus.

I don't know where you got this notion but it's incorrect.

It lived with Gorgosaurus in the Judith River Formation, but never Alberto.

[azure wadi]

North America is North America!

[white spruce]

What's the point in making feathered variants of species with feathers if you're not even going to make them good feathers?

[azure wadi]

^

[hybrid matrix]

are there gonna be edibble aquatic plants in the future? for things like minmi and beipi to eat

[torn thistle]

I would assume so

[idle ibex]

If other herbivores would be able to group, I’d say only let some group with others. Sauropods would be able to group with most others, but things like trike and stego only being able to do so with a few others that are smaller in size than them.

[errant pagoda]

We had interspecies chat for herbs in legacy and it led to megaherds that were awefully good organised, everyone carebearing eachother till death and carnivores that had to eat eachother all the time cause they couldn't get through the herds defenses. Just no. Never again please. Mixed species Groups would be even worse.

[solar salmon]

If they have grouping for herbivores they should have group limits for how many of specific dino there can be in a herd, and which dinos that can group with eachother

[thorny crag]

Grouping for same species only is OK imo

[mental sleet]

Wew, someone had a bad day.

[white spruce]

I kinda agreed with circle, the hell

[thorny crag]

Ppl join anyone anyways, just attack the ppl u don't want in your group. Use discord like anyone else. Also megapacks are a basic issue the devs want to fix via gameplay mechanics, not through rules. Atleast they try that. We'll see. Rn it's all rampage, don't trust anyone and learn the new dinos. It's not gonna be realistic anytime soon. In b4 deino and ptera overpopulation complaints

[sonic cloud]

@tepid gate lost my adult carno to that hole

[dapper pulsar]

that rex should not get less fluff

[thorn glacier]

Yes it should because Rex wasn't feathered

[white spruce]

Z-walk is just normal walking

[paper oriole]

rex shouldnt have a shaggy option because rex wasn't feathered? well, in that case spino didn't have long ass legs and utahraptor didn't have pronated wrists so what's the point lol

[night mountain]

if utah can be naked rex should have full feathered option

[white spruce]

check marking your own suggestion is kinda cringe

[thorn glacier]

Fair enough

In regards to feathered Rex thing

[dapper pulsar]

Damn Buff you took my angry words

[paper oriole]

Dimetrodon is gay, Presto is better

[night mountain]

Dimetro has magy syndrome, it gets shit on by everything big and can't run

[ancient girder]

I Havent seen Presto...?

[paper oriole]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/794109382278381628/PRESTO.png

[ancient girder]

Oh prestosuchus, eh, dimetro looks more exciting though

[paper oriole]

Presto is besto

[ancient girder]

Ahahaha

Nice

It looks mad still

[dapper pulsar]

Presto is cool

and Dimetro would need a gimmick to survive.

[paper oriole]

Presto would be more diff from megalania than dime probably gameplay wise anyway

[dapper pulsar]

That's not a bad thing

[ancient girder]

I like the back and tail

[dapper pulsar]

It's just a thing.

[paper oriole]

It makes for a better upper small tier ambusher crusher

[ancient girder]

Wouldn't mind to see that in gane

Game*

[dapper pulsar]

I'm glad Presto is what the community is attached to instead of Kapro.

[ancient girder]

There a kapro??!!

[paper oriole]

Kapro is cool but presto is still besto

[ancient girder]

Dimetro, presto and kapro?

[dapper pulsar]

No Kapro

Dimetro could be neat if we just whipped anyone who suggests venom or poison.

[paper oriole]

Plus you can yell “PRESTO!!!” when you ambush someone which automatically puts it on top

[ancient girder]

Ahaha

[dapper pulsar]

Voice chat

[sinful summit]

Kapro could be a really good med swamp ambusher.

[dapper pulsar]

Smaller crocs could be nice.

[paper oriole]

Kapro and presto could both fit in, sorta like sucho and bary, but presto is still cooler

[dapper pulsar]

Since young Deino don't stay that way forever

[ancient girder]

Oh dam, I just saw the Kaprosuchus

[dapper pulsar]

Sucho and Bary are just

[ancient girder]

I like it alot

[dapper pulsar]

It's fine to have both. Icthy would be better than Bary.

[ancient girder]

What if there was a lizard type class in The Isle which Includes Dimetrodon, Pestosuchus, Kaprosuchus and Megalania

Affirmative

[dense wagon]

they aren't really lizards tho

the only true lizard is mega

[dapper pulsar]

lizard type.

[ancient girder]

Yes

[paper oriole]

Is mega going to be venomous? Since it's a monitor type

[dapper pulsar]

Yes

[paper oriole]

Mmm not sure what dime would do then

[dapper pulsar]

Hey remember when I said whip anyone who suggests venom?

[paper oriole]

lol

[dapper pulsar]

We have enough.

[dense wagon]

hmm

what if megalania

was able to

[dapper pulsar]

It would probably be defensive.

[dense wagon]

set bacteria traps

leaving puddles of saliva

for dinosaurs to step in and get infected by

[dapper pulsar]

Megalania just stands somewhere long enough that they create a puddle of drool

[paper oriole]

If theres a way to avoid them like scent sure lol

[dense wagon]

that would be cool ngl

and yeah you could sniff it to check if it's water or spit

[paper oriole]

Mega can keep up his infectious saliva buff by eating rotten carrion too, maybe cerato as well if thats not already planned

[dapper pulsar]

Dimetrodon could spend most of it's time living in very enclosed forests with good camo. Maybe their mouths smell like fresh kills, and they can use this to lure animals in, maybe hiding in a bush or something, and most of the larger ones would be filtered out by dense foliage. Maybe there's a rare event where they come into open areas with flashy sails and start screaming, trying to attract mates. This would come at the downside of the area, and a lot of what surrounds it becoming completely void of other small to medium AI.

I'll workshop it more later, maybe into something good.

[jovial sleet]

............

[azure wadi]

Dimetrodon, I think you mean free food with a sail

[ancient girder]

With that megalania venom pools, how that could work is by dribling (or however else) into the muddy areas, where players roll in it to help their bleed, they accidentally roll in the venom causing their death.

xD

[dense wagon]

drooling should debuff thirst

[paper oriole]

that idea kinda sounds like afk gameplay. luring small preds to eat with a scent that matches a gore could be a good mechanic for some animal, but dime is basically dead meat if anything mid tier or over sees it

imo the "lives in remote corners" way of making an animal viable really doesn't sit well, dime would face the same issues as magy with basically being free kos bait

[ancient girder]

Also there needs to be environments that are suitable for species, like a rocky terrain with narrow crevices for Raptors, megalania. Where an allo or cerato would be the biggest that could fit through them.

[cobalt compass]

apex' would enter the other side as juvies or subadults and boom they entered dining room filled with silver plates

[paper oriole]

Imagine the absolute cancer of a whole separated biome where raptors can evade all large predators

Would become the new docks/raptor rock

[lone kite]

we would need a jumping preditor to hunt the raptors or a flying

[paper oriole]

I might suggest animals like dime being a sort of SUV where they are much better at scaling slopes, decent swimmers and travelers, but basically any lower tier quad would be able to do it probably. It would at least help it avoid large theropods i guess

Dime really seems like an awkward, less viable mega

[lone kite]

agreedx

mega and arthoplera would be best for rocky terain

or atleast hilly

[cobalt compass]

tho it has its charm, i dont think of a method it could be viable without heavy adjustments

[paper oriole]

at most, due to their similar lengths and stuff, dime could be a mega alt skin

[lone kite]

it wouldnt but it would need to come with a creture to patroll the new area

[cobalt compass]

giant insect makes physcally no sense as we lack the necessary oxygen i the atmosphere nowdays

[sinful summit]

I think adding the Mega would be nice, but I wonder what could be the counter to Megalania burrow invade for dino like Homalocephale ?

[languid crown]

run

and hide

[cobalt compass]

although through genetic engineering lowering their metabolism and increasing the capability for oxygen intake, maybe one could design artho n such, but not to their prehistoric size imo

@lone kite

[languid crown]

just give it oxygen tanks easy

[cobalt compass]

liquifying air to suck out more oxygen?

[paper oriole]

There's another message at the v3 docks too under the concrete near the water lol

[cobalt compass]

haxxors, you cant read them as dino so you must be cheesers

[paper oriole]

Or our dinos know instant transmission

[azure wadi]

Why is that beezlebufo look like a regular sized bull frog

[paper oriole]

Prehistoric wildlife

[azure wadi]

[cobalt compass]

@keen tartan please leave comments for posts of #general-feedback in here

[azure wadi]

Giving your own suggestion a is kinda cringe

[paper oriole]

lol yikes

[inner hound]

they ❌ their suggestion aswell whhwhw

[azure wadi]

Yeah but a ✅ would of been better than a

[hybrid matrix]

i always add ✅ 😐 ❌ to my suggestions. And if I find one that hasnt been reacted to yet then i add these 3 unless it isnt actually a suggestion.

[azure wadi]

Every threat for an adult is a threat for babies, a big toad isn’t needed

[solar salmon]

I think things like a giant frog would be really cool tho

Because babies aren't really too much food and many players don't find enjoyment killing babies so it would be good food for frogs and scary for babies

Baby that was alot of babies

[idle ibex]

beelzebufo with perks, elder and hypo

hoh

juvi nightmare

[fervent fable]

Beezlebufo justs pulls you in like Kirby

[barren zephyr]

n o m

[inner hound]

beelze fits as AI only imo

[ashen wasp]

Minmi's already gonna have a wallow-like camouflage ability-- it'll dig such that it's level with the ground

[fervent fable]

I keep forgetting minmi has that lol

[cobalt compass]

oof

[fervent fable]

XD

[hybrid matrix]

@pine cape its an interesting idea but how would u switch the sprints?

[pine cape]

@hybrid matrix Perhaps a double input of the binded key. Eg. double tapping shift to adrenaline sprint

[hybrid matrix]

but thats how u autosprint, by tapping it. if u tap it twice then u just auto sprint and immediately stop, making that the input for adrenaline sprinting would be too complicated, wut if u hold a separate button while sprinting, like T.

[pine cape]

@hybrid matrix that could work too

[barren zephyr]

@blissful onyx then it'd have to eat a lot of stuff containing carotenoids (the main example being miniscule crustaceans in lakes, which is how Flamingoes, that spoonbill and scarlet ibises become pink)

Though then there's the possibility of making it a crustacean feeder

So then makes sense more sense for it to be bright pink

[blissful onyx]

i think it is reasonable for it to eat that.

[paper geyser]

we have dinosaurs that eat every 45 minutes, i think we can ignore realism for the sake of pink feathers

[barren zephyr]

And scarlet ibises are lit btw

[barren zephyr]

Still, crustacean eater Deinocheirus would be cool

Though it probably would mainly feed on plant matter

[paper geyser]

i agree, i just thought you meant it would have to eat crustaceans if it was going to get pink feathers

[barren zephyr]

I mean if it eats more crustaceans, it gets pinker, and if it eats less crustaceans, then it doesn't get as pink and stays more of a white colour rather than a pink.

[blissful onyx]

i like the idea of it eating little shrimps like a flamingo and it could be a cool way for it to fish

[barren zephyr]

Variability in colour, you see.

[barren zephyr]

Flamingoes just passively sieve them out of water.

Ibises and spoonbills, however, snap them up

[blissful onyx]

yeah, like that. but i dont think it should be like a active mechanic. I think just like you should choose for your cherry to be white or pink

[barren zephyr]

So this snapping technique might be a good way to get them pink.

[blissful onyx]

thats cool too. i dont have any qualms with your ideas

[barren zephyr]

Deinocheirus otherwise subsists mostly on swamp vegetation, but eating shrimp, in addition to making you pink, could maybe have some benefits like boosted growth or having a slightly larger clutch of eggs.

So it encourages players to eat shrimp, but it's not a must.

[blissful onyx]

I don't think fictionlizing deinocheirus enough to eat shrimp and fish more often is huge stretch and the buff/debuff should be more substantial. After all it may of needed to extra protein and calcium. I think. Optional but very preferable would be a good way to set it up. 80% plant 20% fish and shrimp

@barren zephyr yunno going back to your idea to having cherry eat shrimp to gain the pink color. I think if the food provides enough of a buff it could be a good way to advertise that this animal is stronger than the others and act as a deterrent to predators and could add another layer of gameplay.

[blissful onyx]

@queen egret hey i dont know the plans for legacy but I would really suggest switching to evirma if you can the combat is much more engaging and its getting updated regularly

[real kraken]

They're not updating it and will eventually delete it

[blissful onyx]

i am talking about evirma. wait never mind i had a moment

[real kraken]

lol

[cobalt compass]

@safe warren all aspects of the game are being constantly being worked on, except rn as the devs took a xmas break, by the time QA and progammers working on fixes and tuning content, other members do their stuff like tapwing as artist is making concept arts or such and kissen and bryan doing animator things. these are just examples what different team members do, but please dont expect an artist to magically know how to code...

the bugs you mentioned are ready to be tackled by QA

[thorn glacier]

I don't want that design for Allo, but using it as a base could be interesting

[blissful onyx]

i saw a dev on reddit say it could be used for an elder model

[zenith onyx]

whats wrong with my idea @azure wadi?

[azure wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-everything-avengers-gif-14066494

[zenith onyx]

why?

[azure wadi]

I’m joking I just really like the current allo and don’t think any changes to its model should be made

[white spruce]

current allo is fine

[azure wadi]

spam?

@safe warren what do you mean by “spam”

[blissful onyx]

i think he is calling almost everything spam

[azure wadi]

Weird.

[dapper pulsar]

I was thinking Dimetro would just be AI, also, hypo frog

[barren zephyr]

You could have cynodonts instead

One of the bigger (and probably more ferocious) genera would be Cynognathus

Well it's about 1.2 metres long (excluding the tail)

Well, this is a decent illustration of the animal

[dapper pulsar]

I wouldn't be opposed to a Cynognathus being added, but I don't feel like it's a replacement for Dime.

[barren zephyr]

Dimetrodon doesn't really have any role, and that's the point

I mean there's competition from utahraptors, troodons, ceratosaurs and god knows what else

Cynognathus would work well as a sort of badger for The Isle

[stoic merlin]

I dont really see any other dinosaur than maybe pterosaurs making a nest out of grass or sticks

[white spruce]

Some of the ones with leathery eggs seem like they should bury them to me

[dapper pulsar]

bones

rocks

Maybe saliva and dirt

[dapper pulsar]

Ducklings get kicked out

[thorny lynx]

Give ducc

[safe warren]

@cobalt compass i know well how the gamedev works. Modelers and animators work on their own tasks. And they do a great job. Let them keep doing that. But im talking about focusing. So programmers aperantly dont handle with their job for some reason. And everytime when it says in patch notes about server crash fixing and so on we still have such issues in reality. So i'd hire more qualifyed programmers to make gameplay issues gone. And the game designer would "fix" all the balance issues after code part is done. I hope they have a game designer tho. Coz i see so many dumb messages about it in balance feedback chat. Like can u make this can u add that(of couse that doesnt mean they will make smthing that community is asking) but the carni AI (that devs want to add) will deliver even more balance issues then it is now + new bugs with Ai of couse and additional "weight" for the net code and hardware that needs to be unload.

Idk for sure but QA team might be isnt qualifyed well enough. That the most crucial issues r in code. I dont blame Just saying and trying to help kinda. And i hope ur agree about legacy is a fail as a game. And i dont want the same to evrima.

[blissful onyx]

@fallen raven do you mean steam?

[icy lion]

i think they mean merch, try #merch-discussion if you do

[icy lion]

@safe warren the general feedback channel is also the suggestions channel. read the description

additionally, if you feel like something doesnt belong, simply contact a mod

[safe warren]

Already did ty

[barren zephyr]

I think Isle is simply not a game for streaming

The content/the game's rythm is much more fitting for video creators than streamers. And a lot of game like this, this isn't an issue.

Stream snipers are also not the problem of a game. It's an issue outside of the game. Fuck all the snipers, and if the devs can give us tool to counter it somehow, sure. But it shouldn't be a basic requirement. I do both vidoes and stream, and If im extremely bothered by people who following me around, I just put on a delay.

[barren zephyr]

A lot of dinosaurs probably lined their nests with vegetation to give insulation to eggs.

And some dinosaurs like Allosaurus actually made nest mounds, like crocodilians.

[urban flax]

@glad herald I agree so much with what you said. Evrima model is a beautiful hyper spino. But I want frog spino and its paddle tail as the regular animal so much

[cobalt compass]

@dapper pulsar rn we mostly have dinosaurs that are bigger than a human, you'll get this gasp for air as a merc and change it from "oh the croc" to "oh shit, oh shit, oh shit the croc!"

[zinc anvil]

Well we as the QA team do this for free and in our own time. It’s pretty unfair of you to say we are not quite qualified for the job give the amount of time we as a team have put in. If you’d like to help dm hypno and ask to join the QA team.

[quartz lantern]

I don't think you understand that QA do this in our free time because we also love this game and want it to be a massive success. We have put HOURS of our free time into testing. Saying we aren't qualified isn't a valid argument here if you're saying we aren't coding it correctly because that's not what we do. We find bugs and report it back, while yes, some have knowledge of how to code, that's not what we sign up to do. We want this game to be as big of a success as everyone else, and to rag on us for not being qualified enough because we can't code is unfair and rude. As Syn stated, if you'd like to, shoot Hypno a DM and ask to join the QA team.

[sonic cloud]

@spiral ravine people upvoting your suggestion seem to have forgotten that Carnotaurus is a small game hunter. Perhaps Allosaurus will be more to your playstyle

[spiral ravine]

carno is one the most capable group hunter

if you play it right

[paper geyser]

it's one of two carnivores currently playable, i think you're getting a little ahead of yourself there

[sonic cloud]

Anything can group hunt if you play it well enough

Carno is still designed to hunt small prey

Play Utah if you want an animal designed to hunt animals larger than itself

[spiral ravine]

carno is designed to hunt small prey? a group of carnos can kill anything other than apexes, you cant say that about allo or cerato because they're simply not fast enough

[sinful summit]

A group of anything can take down something bigger.

[paper geyser]

just because they can doesn't mean they're supposed to. Carno hunts and should only hunt small prey, it won't be changed just because you want it to fit a different role

[spiral ravine]

if you think carno only hunts small prey then you're playing it wrong

[barren zephyr]

it is supposed to

[sonic cloud]

carno is designed to hunt small prey? a group of carnos can kill anything other than apexes, you cant say that about allo or cerato because they're simply not fast enough
@spiral ravine there aren’t any apexes in evrima

[paper geyser]

no lol that's literally its niche. You can hunt a rex if you want but you're not supposed to because you'll likely die

[cyan flame]

That may be true for legacy 70, but we're in evrima now, carno is indeed designed to hunt small prey these days

[barren zephyr]

doesn't have too

you can suicide into an apex if you want

[paper geyser]

everything in the roster has a role to fill, carno's is fast small game hunter

[cyan flame]

Carno was never meant to hunt big things, it's just been, questionably balanced in legacy, hopefully better now in evrima

[sonic cloud]

Carno’s concept art shows that it takes two Carno’s to kill a Tenonto, i’m pretty sure that’s the largest animal you should be hunting. Which carno does more than well enough right now

Upvoting own suggestion

[spiral ravine]

even in evrima at its current state carno is gonna be really capable at taking down bigger things when in a group, the speed and decent bite force/bleed make it so it's never gonna be just a "small prey hunter"

[barren zephyr]

anything in a group can fight off a larger creature

[paper geyser]

okay, but you want to improve its ability to take on big animals?

[cyan flame]

Yeah, sure, three carnos can take on a stego, but they'll have a hard time, carno is not designed for it, and as such will struggle, compared to utahs who are very much better at taking out a stego as of right now

Besides, in the future, carno might be in more trouble when we get fractures and stuff, and so on. I imagine a carno won't just run off even a single hit from a stego like it currently can

[sonic cloud]

even in evrima at its current state carno is gonna be really capable at taking down bigger things when in a group, the speed and decent bite force/bleed make it so it's never gonna be just a "small prey hunter"
@spiral ravine so if it’s already better at hunting large prey than it needs to be then why are asking for a buff?

[hybrid matrix]

carno hunts everything that is the size of (as in other carnos) or smaller than carno
thats it
end of story

[zenith onyx]

@safe warren how was I spamming?

[safe warren]

@quartz lantern i do undersrand everything. And im not raging at QA in general Just saying how it is. I dont wanna seemed rude. And i also think devs have to pay for such a job and make it a full timed. I would join to u guys but im not a coder just a game designer that devs dont need or dont wanna pay for thas job and making stuff by their own not being a GD.

@zenith onyx make it at least all in one message

[zenith onyx]

that's the reason? dude, u can only post one image at a time, so of course it going to be in parts

and there's a timer for posting, I can't post it all together

[safe warren]

Photoshop Will help u to make as many pictures as u want problem solved

[zenith onyx]

not everyone has the money

[safe warren]

Paint?

U can also make a collage in it

[zenith onyx]

just please don't put spam under every single piece that is put in there if its not in one piece. It's very annoying

[zinc anvil]

Easier said then done. And it’s very easy to be a back seat dev and tell people what they need to do but you don’t see every that goes on in the background

[quartz lantern]

Not trying to seem rude, but if you're not a coder then why lecture about the coding if you don't code? Anyone can be a game designer and start a game. Coding is easier to critique when you have no idea of the complexity of it or anything behind the scenes. I understand your frustrations of this game currently, but bashing qa and the devs isn't helpful feedback.

[barren zephyr]

@wanton hull pretty sure they are aware. Since everyone complaining and experiencing it.

[safe warren]

I dont see the background like wut? That devs dont have money to pay for the job?

[wanton hull]

will we be seeing another hotfix or do we have to wait for the fisher update

[paper geyser]

we don't know

[wanton hull]

Its really unfortunate this wasnt fixed right away after they increased AI numbers

[zinc anvil]

You don’t see what the plan is or anything like that. Like I said easy to be a armchair dev

[cobalt compass]

just to sum up said things of fellow QA's, we're volunteers that like to see the game grow and be succsessful like most of the community does. we dont code, we work with the coders. we do share our and your concerns on a shorter way and help with balancing. you could say we're not qualified enough, but we dont get paid, so please dont expect us to be professionals. we do what we do with passion in our free time for you aswell.

[zenith onyx]

dude, like try to think about it from their point of view.

instead of just your own

[cobalt compass]

keep in mind discord only allows 2.000 characters per post

[safe warren]

I have an idea wut coding is and how it looks but im not a coder(i had a Base programming couse 20+ years ago) but im not good at it at all so i wont be doing that coz there r ppl much better then me in it. Thats different. As a GD i suggest how to make things done better. And about the plan - as far as i know devs want to make something weird as a final product. Too ambitious and too hard to make everything worked well all together. Like mutations, humans, humanoids or wutever they call it, vehicles, weapons and i dont even mention "normal Dino content" . Thats in my opinion very vague. I wanna be mistaken about all these plans but thats wut i saw couple yaers ago or heard from dondi's streams and anthomnia's vids. Tell me if i still dont know the clue where developing is going to.

[cobalt compass]

over said time frame, the course changed, thats correct so far. afaik after a few founder devs left and the team mixed, goal also changed and develop in itself.

[icy lion]

additionally theres now a roadmap system so theres a more clear and defined process in making the game

[cobalt compass]

the sturcture of how the game should evolve has gotten clearer since recode and the release of evrima

[zinc anvil]

Understand in game development things don’t always go to plan it’s easier to recover if you are a big team the isle is not a big team. But it’s got some very talented people working in it.

[safe warren]

Well theactual roadmap is quite short and that doesnt show anything about humans adding but we already have humans sfructude in the game. So i guess thats a roadmap only for the year.

[quartz lantern]

You will never know what goes on behind the scenes and neither will we fully. So yes, you do not know where the game development is going. And to sit here and lecture the dev and qa team on it is idiocy in my opinion. Want to help it get better? Tell us something we don't know or offer up a solution to the devs besides pointing out the obvious.

[zinc anvil]

You need to make a foundation for it first like human buildings for a start

[icy lion]

the dev that makes human structures is exclusively making human structures, its not taking away from the actual humans

[zinc anvil]

You don’t see everything that’s being worked and that’s fine it’s how it should be.

[cobalt compass]

imo the main reason no one but the devs know more than the current roadmap tells is simply that there is a hidden plot the community has a vague understanding

games like saurian or bob didnt need them, cause they're just open world survival

[safe warren]

Ok. Did u guys tell devs to optimize the net code same way as i described before? R they aware?

[cobalt compass]

yes they are aware

[quartz lantern]

If you think they aren't aware of such issues you don't fully understand game development.

[cobalt compass]

and we didnt need to tell them, atleast not besides our regular testing sessions

almost all concerns the community brings forth are already known to the devs and us and beind tackled on

still, some issues dont solve after just one fix and take serval of hotfixes

[safe warren]

Im asking that coz the legacy had and still has same net code issue that hadnt been fixed to these days. So evrima has Just the same issue that is a problem since evrima being released

[cobalt compass]

it an ongoing process we try to smooth out as good as possible

[karmic bison]

"as good as possible", that sounds funny

[cobalt compass]

legacy's code was flawed from the base beyond economical rescue. evrima as a base offers a broader variety for solutions we can test on

[cobalt compass]

i wish it were funny all the time

[safe warren]

And one more thing i noticed the pounce stuck glitch happens mostly when desync apears between attacker and victim.

[cobalt compass]

but if you still want to offer your help E3S6, send your resume at
[e-mail]

yep we know, the eternal struggle for a multiplayer game... performance vs graphics vs net accessablitiy/stability

[safe warren]

Resume As GD? Or?

[karmic bison]

I actually noticed that if a stego, for an example, is standing on a body, and a utah pounces on it, it'll glitch out and get stuck

Might've just been coincidence, just happened a couple times while watching an event that was hosted on a server in the weekend

[safe warren]

I think its Just a coincidence coz there is no script triger between dead body and pounce action

[karmic bison]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[cobalt compass]

yes, or atleast a summary of skills you'd offer for a improved organisation

but that'd be a case for Punchpacket as a community manager

[safe warren]

Well i can try of couse but all the documentary i have as GD r in russian. And thats impossible to translate.

[odd token]

I don't know about you guys but it'd be a shit move if we will have to wait until update 3 gets released and not getting a hotfix to this laggy shit mess that is happening right now on the servers

[cobalt compass]

first attempt should happen via dm Punch

officials, vurakles?

[odd token]

the last released hotfix was with good intentions but just made it worse. Now you have two options, you either try to release a hotfix for that, or ignore all the demands of your community and let it suffer until the release of update 3

Now, the most likely thing to happen is to focus on update 3 and release it maybe the beginning of february

[cobalt compass]

im not aware of what kind the next release will be, either be it a hotfix or U3

[odd token]

Hence I said that its more likely they're just gonna keep focusing on update 3

so that its gonna be a few weeks of complete silence waiting for that update, instead of wasting your resources to work on a hotfix that might improve the server lag issues and keep your community playing your game (which they will anyway) but improve the experience

[cobalt compass]

on which server do you play most the time?

[odd token]

EU 1

[cobalt compass]

okay

[odd token]

we've seen it from previous update hiatus (update 2), everyone knew the game was in a shitty state yet they focused on update 2 which is fine, but I don't know how long the community is gonna keep up with that

[cobalt compass]

i cant tell the exact things they fixed as that would violate my nda, but most things are on a good way in current qa build

[odd token]

Again, my complaints are meaningless. It's just most likely gonna be a couple of weeks waiting for update 3 that should fix a lot of the stuff.

[cobalt compass]

also to note is that some problem just dont happen to us, as we're simply to few members at a specific time, thanks to timezone and work

[odd token]

Releasing a hotfix and leaving for the holidays without a back up plan that things might even get worse is just beyond my imagination of how much one can fuck up

[cobalt compass]

complaints get the moment meaningless if they're brought forth with an rude attitude. we encourage you to feedback

but i can understand your point

[odd token]

I'm not being rude so we can call it feedback

[cobalt compass]

didnt say you are, that was the answer to your "my complaints are meaningless"

[odd token]

got it

[cobalt compass]

constructive and kind complaints and feedback are very appreciated

like my dear mother used to say "who screams is wrong"

so in conclusion, we do read and try reproduce every bug and more you encounter, but some things pops only in public were are you as the majority of the playerbase comes into action

@karmic bison 2nd week of january

@thorn glacier perhaps its just the working title of them 🤷‍♂️

[thorn glacier]

Hopefully

But its a working title that's stuck for years if it is

[icy lion]

theyre also called cannibals right? id prefer that as the official name

[thorn glacier]

No, cannibals are something else

[icy lion]

i thought the eyeless ones didnt technically have a name

hold on i think theres a vid of don talking about it, but its old of course

[cobalt compass]

what reason should they have to "dehumanize" indigenous people? dont you think thats a tiny tad overthought?

[thorn glacier]

Not really, it happens all the time
Pretty much most media does it

[icy lion]

its pretty common

[cobalt compass]

most media is dumb

[icy lion]

and usually unintentional (as in, not malicious) BUT its still important to recognize youve done it

[thorn glacier]

There may not even be an intentional reason, I'm not accusing the devs I'm just pointing out a potential flaw in the naming that they'll may not be aware of

[thorn glacier]

^^^

[icy lion]

so the original clip has been deleted from twitch but catbug did a little animation about it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEFXKJPx35Q

"the tribals and cannibals are the same thing"

[cobalt compass]

i'd stop listening to most of that stuff and start building your own opinion on things...

like most of the ppl working for news agencies just read the teleprompter and their papers infront without having background infos

[thorn glacier]

?? What stuff
I'm just saying natives are portrayed very poorly in media, most media as far back as when we were genociding them in North America portrays them as animalistic savages

[cobalt compass]

which is wrong, i agree

but nowaday ppl stopped thinking for themselves

[thorn glacier]

I mean I'm quite literally thinking for myself right now, I'm going off of how I see natives portrayed and how they've been portrayed and I'm aligning that with the Isles tribals

[cobalt compass]

i like that you think this way for yourself, but i also think you overthink the devs intentions for the name of the tribals. its a game after all

[icy lion]

id also mention swapping the official name to cannibals in the suggestion

[cobalt compass]

imo they should get some totally different name

[icy lion]

or that, but cannibal adds to the horror a bit to me

[cobalt compass]

i still think its just their worktitle and dondi has something in the backhand

[icy lion]

and willow isnt saying the devs are malicious towards natives, just that the name should be changed because of the implications of it

[thorn glacier]

Yeah,

Cannibal would be good for them but it might seem a little bad after going from "tribal" to "cannibals" simply because Natives are often painted as cannibalistic (which isn't entirely untrue in some cultures but it's not the monstrous thing that people make it out to be)
Cannibals on its own would be fine but the transition could be a little rocky

Still I think cannibals could be an improvement, certainly

Personally I'd call them something related to their origins, or name them after whatever it is they're worshipping

[cobalt compass]

indeed, but since its a game im not bothered by what they are called

i think a good portion of the ppl on the internet try to read every text they see in their most offensive way 🙄
sometimes its just that what its depicted in the text, nothing more or less 🤷‍♂️

[thorn glacier]

I mean yes, but the fact is even things that aren't supposed to be offensive can still be offensive

It's about being critical of negative ideas so we don't let those ideas become something actually bad

Not saying they are bad at the moment, just that they could become something

[cobalt compass]

hmm i'd like to move that to dm's or #401470471750811669

[thorn glacier]

Fair

[soft hedge]

I agree with willow on the name change and I think it makes sense from a logical/gameplay standpoint too because I thought tribals would be a human but with more primitive tech and different connections to the lore but still a Human class so I was a bit sad to see the model as an almost orc thing

If it had a different name I’d be more on board ig is what I’m saying

[cobalt compass]

indeed, afaik "tribals" still exists since "The Stomping Land"

[paper geyser]

i agree. Calling them tribals seems kinda distasteful even if unintentional

[thorn glacier]

Yeah, it works better lore-wise and it doesn't carry the same potential negative connotations

[cobalt compass]

well maybe we get some kind of "Orcs"

[soft hedge]

I agree I think they should be changed to cannibals or if cannibal is still the name of another creature any fantasy/sci-fi name would work better then “tribal”

[thorn glacier]

If they want to still use the name in some regard, Tribal could become the Mercs name for the Tribals where as they could have an official and better name
It could be smart commentary as well as generally making more sense lorewise

[soft hedge]

That would be cool so in dossiers or smth they’d be the official name but in game or in journals or smth it would be tribal

[thorn glacier]

Yeah, could be interesting

[last topaz]

Aren’t the tribals supposed to be ARK players basically? I’ve heard things about them taming dinos and putting leashes on them. That doesn’t sound like something a deformed wendigo would do

[paper geyser]

sorry but another reason to rename tribals lol ^

[thorn glacier]

That's true, but they also are supposed to attack the mercs and sacrifice people and perform a lot of other activities of the kind, plus they're distinctively physically not human

[barren zephyr]

@thorn glacier so basically what youre trying to say ist that calling tribals "tribals" is rasist?

[thorn glacier]

Like they're basically a sacrificial cult, and if they are the same as the cannibals like dondi has said/implied before that makes them cannibalistic too which is also a stereotype

[thorn glacier]

No? I literally said I wasn't accusing anyone of being racist

[barren zephyr]

Dont worry im just making some fun

[thorn glacier]

What I was saying is drawing a connection between blood thirsty monster cults and indigenous people could be potentially a problem lol

[last topaz]

The thing is that in the art from #general-feedback the tribals seem like animals that hunt, so would they make houses and saddles?

[icy lion]

those arent tribals

[last topaz]

Are they humans with an animal side or animals with a human side is basically what I’m asking since I’m not up to date with the info

[icy lion]

the tribals/cannibals are the orc-like humanoids

[last topaz]

So the wendigo thingy is something else?

[thorn glacier]

The Wendigo is the walker(?) maybe?

these are the cannibal and the tribals

[last topaz]

Aight gotcha

[cobalt compass]

as stated by dondi in a stream last year "i initially called them cannibals, but i tend to leave these eyeless mofos nameless until i find a better one"

[paper geyser]

"the eyeless" is unoriginal but works fairly well as a name

[cyan flame]

Yeh, tribals/cannibals are the same, the "normal" ones, the eyeless ones are apparently something else. As for what the tribals could be named, just have the mercs refer to them as "the replicated"

[thorn glacier]

I actually like that name much better, mind if I edit my message in general feedback to include that as a name?

[cyan flame]

They don't need a name, they're not, from what old lore says at least, something original/native, they're some sort of experiment

[thorn glacier]

They also need a name on the menu of course, but still
I agree

[paper geyser]

not at all, go for it

oh wait were you talking to the other guy

my bad

[thorn glacier]

I was but the eyeless are good as well, I'll offer that as an alternative

[cyan flame]

And yes, you can offer that as a suggestion if you like it Willow

[thorn glacier]

Thank you

[white spruce]

Tribals wouldn't just refer to the cultures you mentioned, though. It's a general term for any group that is in a tribe.

[thorn glacier]

That is true, but I feel like it's still best to avoid the connection

[white spruce]

I don't know many animal group names, but I wouldn't be surprised if there are monkeys that could honestly be called "tribal"

[soft hedge]

Also I feel like calling them tribal is just too human for what you are playing as

[white spruce]

I don't think tribal communicates that the cannibals' design well, but I don't think it has anything to do with the native american culture

The fact that your first assumption when the term is brought up is that reflects poorly on you more than it does the game

[soft hedge]

Yeah I don’t think it has anything to do with actual natives but again Willow also never claimed that was the intention behind the name.

[thorn glacier]

Oh I'm sure it's not supposed to, but I can totally see there being some level of connection
Also, the only reason I pulled that connection was because tribals at one point, when they were first added to legacy and then promptly removed, were designed after natives

[soft hedge]

Well traditionally especially in western media Natives are called tribal so it isn’t willows fault lmao

[white spruce]

When they were added they were wearing whitey tighties, they were a default asset from the unreal engine store

[thorn glacier]

true but they also had headresses and stuff

[cyan flame]

They were never designed like that Willow, if you refer to the model that was used, that was some random asset probs used cause it had a bow

[white spruce]

And I'd argue that tribal rarely refers to any specific culture in any writing within the past couple centuries.

[thorn glacier]

^^^ that too
Plus it generally makes tribal people (not just native americans, just all tribal people) who have had a hard enough time already look bad
Also the name doesn't communicate the design clearly

[thorn glacier]

Oh fair enough, I didn't know that

[cyan flame]

Original concept I think had more rangers, then mercs, and poachers, but that's old as can be :p

[white spruce]

It's like saying a kiwi can't be a bird because an albatross is also a bird

[thorn glacier]

Ah

[cyan flame]

They had a merc model too, but yeah, that model was never meant to be the tribal from what I know, it was just used as a stand in

[white spruce]

tribal means that they are in a tribe. The cannibals seem to be in tribes.

[cyan flame]

And well, them testing human in game in general :p

But I can see why that would be odd. In any case, I like the name the replicated, as you said, it fits with their lore and possible origin

[white spruce]

This connection you're making is just nonexistent. Even in the most racist eras people still had specific names for native peoples, going all the way back to the Romans referring to germanic tribes as "barbarians"

[thorn glacier]

I can see that comparison Herp, but I just don't want to draw that connection at all
Like just having natives have stereotypes that line up with what the Tribals more or less are could be a weird thing to have

I mean yeah, the natives where often called Tribals, or savages
Or, also cannibals
So

[white spruce]

No, they really weren't. You can read the books written by these people.

[soft hedge]

I used to watch cowboy and Indian videos as a kid and yeah all the time it was horrible stereotypes and they were often called tribal or cannibals or savages

[white spruce]

Going all the way back to Rome, these people were referred to by specific names to denote which generalization the speaker was making of them

[thorn glacier]

That's true enough, but yeah a lot of pop culture tied connections between those terms

and they're not connections that are going to go away if we keep using similar ideas

[white spruce]

There is no connection. Some native american nations were primarily tribal, but that is, again, like saying a kiwi cannot be a bird because eagles are birds too.

it's a flat descriptor; this group lives in tribes.

I mean, shit, some of those native nations weren't even tribes. They were full empires

[thorn glacier]

Idk, I could see an argument for both points

[soft hedge]

Okay sure but some flat descriptions aren’t something you should go around saying. Referring to women as something like boob owners isn’t an incorrect statement but you sure as hell shouldn’t say it because it denotes a group of people to one single thing

[thorn glacier]

Actually yeah that's
funny but a good enough point

[white spruce]

which is why it's wrong to refer to native americans as "tribals"

[thorn glacier]

Oh I totally agree

[white spruce]

Tribal is just their societal structure

It's like saying that we're cultural or something

[soft hedge]

Yeah I mean most human societies are tribes if you get down to it

[white spruce]

I think the connection is rather contrived in this regard

[thorn glacier]

I can see both sides, feel free to vote for the thing if you want or vote against it
Thank you for this discussion Herp, you have good points

[white spruce]

You could honestly say that humans in general are tribal, and I don't think many people would disagree.

[thorn glacier]

I still wouldn't mind and might be happy if it was changed, but with this context I don't care nearly as much as I did
Still I want the name to be changed though because honestly it's just uncreative and it doesn't really explain their designs well

[white spruce]

I agree that the name should be changed, just not for the reasons you specified

[cyan flame]

I'd rather we have a name change for lore reasons than design reason, not as if "tribal" says much about their design either

[thorn glacier]

That's fair enough

[soft hedge]

I agree I have more of a problem with the name not accurately conveying the design/lore and play style of the thing

[thorn glacier]

That's fair

[cobalt compass]

cough working title cough

[white spruce]

They're big scary monsters, calling them tribals only works to humanize them

[cobalt compass]

also the first "tribals" were just workshop assets to test stuff, no own design by the team

[cyan flame]

Good times, even if the bow was stupidly op xD

[soft hedge]

With locational damage an eye shot should insta kill rex

[cyan flame]

If you wanna stand there and aim while the rex is charging at you, go ahead :p

[thorn glacier]

make mercs guns 1 hits if you shoot dinos in their gaping mouths

[cyan flame]

I'm sure they could find a gun that does that, but they apparently get to start with a knife and a pistol, so even a flock of dryos would probably be able to kill them at that point xD

Glorious death, no? Getting pecked to death by a flock of cutely squeaking dryos

[cobalt compass]

i think it was just a knife and a flashlight

blinded by hypsis

[thorn glacier]

LMAO that'd be great
Obviously a one shot is too much but boosted damage for hitting dinos inside of their mouth could encourage high risk high reward gameplay

where you have to get them to roar or have them open their mouths and then dodge them or something and shoot into their mouths

[cobalt compass]

but why should a dinoplayer roar at a human?

[cyan flame]

Well, someone is always bound to do it, threaten I guess, but if the dino is willing to threaten you, are you really going to shoot it and give it a reason to charge you? :p

[cobalt compass]

if there was an intimidation mechanic were the merc gets with a percentage chance a loss of control for lets say 1 or 2 seconds, maybe

[thorn glacier]

Some people like to go for cinematic threatening approach thing
"look at me im big scary carno"

[icy lion]

i mean theres already a headshot multiplier, trying to make one for inside the mouth sounds tough too

[thorn glacier]

That's true

[cyan flame]

Good thing we don't have loss of bodyparts, or someone would snipe all the plates of a stego or something I'm sure.. :p

[cobalt compass]

yay, i was refering every other behavior but rp

[thorn glacier]

they would and it'd be incredibly sad

[cyan flame]

Because no doubt someone would be that kind of asshole xD

[thorn glacier]

carno looses arms and legs

[cobalt compass]

i would snack them as something bigger anytime i get the chance to

[soft hedge]

Yeah I can see people with sniper weapons just killing small herbis from across the map

[thorn glacier]

dryo ai literally just chilling before it gets gunned down

[proud coral]

And then those mercs get run down by everything in a mile's radius because guns are loud

[thorn glacier]

i hope they don't add silencers

[proud coral]

If they did, they'd probably function like real ones....so not really much of a difference

Still super loud. Just a little quieter

They want guns to be good and realistic

[night mountain]

make then absolutely silent

[paper geyser]

suppressors are actually pretty good in forests and such, i think they would come in handy if made accurate.
They're meant to reduce the range of the sound, not so much so the sound itself

[cobalt compass]

silencers are most useful if the proper ammunition is used, and subsonic loses a good portion of its punch. so you'd be stuck to so close combat you could throw your knife

[thorn glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/cassowary-ostrich-gif-16223938

Mercs should have shields they can use to block small dinos attacking them

like that

[paper geyser]

maximum should be dryo, don't think that'll stop anything bigger

but i agree, thats a nice idea

[cobalt compass]

make a suggestion, include the video

[safe galleon]

Gif

[cobalt compass]

original is a video

[jade schooner]

To “willow #boarava”, don’t know if anyone said before

As far as I know, the “tribals” are no longer named tribals but cannibals (assuming they’re disfigured meat eating humans, not normal humans. Tribals was a placeholder).
Meanwhile the former “cannibals” had that name as a placeholder, and some weird explanation around that by Dondi, but they’re not the same thing and are a totally separated entity, with no current name, so... “eyeless” for now

[thorn glacier]

Fair enoughm ty

[jade schooner]

Tbh I hope we can make some sort of tribe building mechanic in the game in the future. Like an established group can make their own war paint, banners, or specified type of decoration (rex skulls for one, trikes for other, etc).
Server set of course the amount of tribes that can be made, so when building your own you don’t occupy the other’s sets. Would be a cool mechanic for servers. But a bit too complicated for now I guess

[soft hedge]

@thorn glacier I highly doubt the shield would work on an 800 pound animal like utah and even dryo might be a stretch because compared to the cassowary in the vid it is about twice as heavy and that cassowary is already knocking the guy back quite a bit but it would be really cool for stuff like velo compy and troo

[dapper pulsar]

Koolasuchus could serve as either the smaller crocodile-like creature, or a mid point between them.

[primal vault]

By the way, if my idea gets per say 50 likes/upvotes I will make a more detailed profile that will hopefully make it to the devs.

[dapper pulsar]

I think Hellbender's are just North American. Japanese Salamanders are there own thing.

[zenith onyx]

Look up Japanese Hellbenders

then you'll find them

[paper oriole]

Tupan could work too as a fruit bat, tape is compy tier lol

An herbi flyer would be nice either way, the devs have been neglecting herbis so bad

[loud hamlet]

We could have both. I think of Tupans being more like toucans

[dapper pulsar]

Yeah, that's a Japanese Giant Salamander. They're very similar animals, but the Japanese one is bigger. The Chinese one is bjgger than both!

[soft hedge]

I don’t think tape should be able to hang upside down but letting it perch in branches and eat fruit would be neat especially if haast is added in. Tupan is awesome but I think it might be a bit too big for a forest flier especially with the density of forests in evrima so far

[white spruce]

Imagine typing out utharaptor

[paper oriole]

utha's

[dapper pulsar]

Ureth

[paper oriole]

Urethraraptor

[white spruce]

is there a reason people call it utharaptor?

Are they against the state of utah for some reason?

[dapper pulsar]

It fucking sucks here but I don't really know why anyone would be that against it.

[loud hamlet]

Utahraptor = Mormon raptor

[barren zephyr]

I shouldn't be banned because I am doing the dirty work directly

[barren zephyr]

@quasi violet
No i love that idea, seeing utahs are great! But they have a boring pattern... as it's so repetitive.
Also love the pfp ;3

Around 3-5 different patterns for Utah would be great. Around 2-3, for carno
Either 2 or 3 for herbis

[white spruce]

@night mountain The other ceratopsians should have similarly nasty bites'

[paper oriole]

Utahs don't deserve more patterns than the superior dinos (all other dinos but magy)

[barren zephyr]

Minmi needs to have an all gold pattern

[azure wadi]

Ew

[barren zephyr]

[azure wadi]

If I see an all gold minmi I’d kill it, regardless of what dinosaur I am

[barren zephyr]

True, gold is worth a lot

[azure wadi]

It’s also a disgusting color to see on a dinosaur

[paper oriole]

Pteranodon calf

Deinosuchus calf

[cobalt compass]

@abstract zealot its heavely unlikely that a carry mechanic will be implemented, since it doesnt suit every species and the ones that could, would gain an advantage over other. thats just one balance reason, other are eg carrying a hatchling so long that its either subadult or, what i guess would the case doesnt grow at all while being held.

[primal vault]

@zenith onyx Thats basically my suggestion exept more refined.

[abstract zealot]

@cobalt compass ok ty

[cobalt compass]

np

[primal vault]

I feel if we combined our ideas we could have a great idea to present to the devs!

[languid cairn]

@thorny crag and make it unlimited. Whole map spawn range.

[storm rock]

Hello

They should make high mountains like the ones on the legacy island with caves on top for pterodactyls to nest, the puppies stay there and the parents have to fetch food and water

[languid crown]

Puppies?

[storm rock]

What?

[cobalt compass]

chicks would probably the more fitting term

[languid crown]

Are you referring to pteradon babies?

[storm rock]

Yes, why?

that would be very realistic!

[paper oriole]

Deinosuchus calfs and pteranodon puppies

[thorny crag]

of course

like the old spawn system

[solid wedge]

u mean hatchlings?

[odd token]

Regional spawn system is gonna be changed or removed completely. Cause it can't go on further like that

[cobalt compass]

hmm?

[odd token]

its complete bullshit

people just spawn at the same spot over and over again

[finite jacinth]

A utah came back over and over to me once because of this new spawn system

[brittle ivy]

It just needs fine tuning - it’s very much a WIP.

[odd token]

''fine tuning'' is put very politely

it needs some big changes

[brittle ivy]

A cool down timer to prevent people from selecting a region they just died in, for example, is required.

A random respawn selection button, for those who don’t care what region they spawn in, would be a welcome addition as well.

[hybrid matrix]

Or if you keep spawning in an area a carnivourus ai strong enough to kill u will spawn and it will wait for u until it despawns after a while

[brittle ivy]

Or a.. cool down timer preventing players from going back to a spot over and over again back to back lol

Easier to implement than an AI that could be forcibly spawned and abused in a manner to force it on the local populace

[hybrid matrix]

well sometimes its not because ur being a d***, i occaisionally spawn in the same spot over and over because I like that spot and i keep dying, having a cooldown timer would prevent that, however, having an ai trying to kill me would make playing more interesting

i like the cooldown, but it would get annoying after a while

[odd token]

the AI suggestion is not a solution

[hybrid matrix]

thats true

i never said it was

its sorta like a bandaid tho

[brittle ivy]

It could be abused

[odd token]

then you're just saying it'd be cool without thinking about other possible consequences

[hybrid matrix]

yea kinda

if i put the ai idea in #general-feedback i would be serious about it

or maybe #ai-feedback, im not sure

[odd token]

Whats the difference between in general feedback and discussing it here

[brittle ivy]

General feedback is pertinent specifically to both QA and developers to read. This channel is great for fine tuning suggestions amongst community members.

[hybrid matrix]

its my opinion about the channels

[paper geyser]

yeah simple answer is that one is for suggestions and the other is for discussing the suggestions

[hybrid matrix]

also, by cooldown, do u mean like a timer cooldown? or a turn-based cooldown, as in you have to wait a certain number of spawns b4 u can go back to that place

[brittle ivy]

Timer

Give like 5-10 minutes before you’re allowed to select that region again on the map. Timer length would be discussed internally, of course.

If you die in all regions, the Random respawn would still be available to you until a region unlocks on the map.

[odd token]

well gotta rely on the glorious RNG then

[brittle ivy]

That’s exactly why it’s there, so it doesn’t completely lock out a player

Or for people who just don’t care where they spawn

[hybrid matrix]

wut about a turn-based cooldown? the amount of turns it takes to re unlock a region is 1 less than the amount of regions there r, that way u can technically only spawn in an area twice b4 having to use the random spawn

theres like 6 or 7 regions, right?

[brittle ivy]

Eh, timer makes more sense

[hybrid matrix]

at least hear me out lmao

[odd token]

plus having to spawn a certain amount of times in order to unlock a spawn location just enhances the snackrificing and exploitation of that system, a timer would be better

[brittle ivy]

^

[hybrid matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/bravas-jessy-terrero-audri-nix-mila-milagrosa-gif-18901718

[odd token]

If you're just bad at surviving and used every spawn location you're being punished for your stupidity and can't choose your preferred location

its important to return to a certain professionalism we had on officials just better and more developed

[hybrid matrix]

ok first of all this is a problem with the timer too, bc either way u can still test ur luck with the random spawn

[odd token]

you would first have to have a timer on all spawn locations

because why have the option to spawn randomly when you have the regional spawn system

[hybrid matrix]

same for the turn based idea, bc once u cant choose the place u like to spawn at u can try the random spawn

[odd token]

assuming there is the option to randomly spawn on one of the spawn locations, it would completely nullify the regional spawn system

[brittle ivy]

Players shouldn’t be locked out of the game if they’re simply killed in a quick manner no matter where they spawn. The timer for that region will continue to reset to prevent abuse, yes. Random respawns at least allows players to continually try to play the game.

[hybrid matrix]

alr i gtg, can we continue this later?

[barren zephyr]

@shut raft we already have Deinosuchus.

[hybrid matrix]

tbf purrusaurus looks awesome with its rectangle mouth

[barren zephyr]

Purrusaurus is just a giant caiman.

[dapper pulsar]

I mean

Yeah

It would be neat if you could become something resembling those by your choices in the thing.

Like go into aquatic ability you become Sacro

Raw power you become something like Puru

Middle of the road stay normal Deino.

[torn thistle]

@shut raft You have to provide a reason as to why a certain creature could be added, along with what they'd add to the game or differ from any current / yet-to-be-added playable creatures.

[shut raft]

Ho ok

[torn thistle]

Can't just be a "add [x] creature cuz I think it's cool"

[hybrid matrix]

@cosmic prairie Few days ago i logged in as a fully grown teno and in about 7 or 8 seconds a carno charged me and i lost the fight

@glad dirge i think there's already gonna be a random spawn option, not sure tho

[cosmic prairie]

There's been multiple times I logged in as a utah with a decent pack near and they mercifully decided not to be cannibals that day.

Once I logged in as carno and a stego thought it would be funny to try and kill me. Didn't win but the pain of sitting for 8 years healing thagomizer holes is not fun.

[hybrid matrix]

oof

[paper oriole]

I doubt pteranodon can do much grabbing with those pathetic feet, especially at high speeds

[paper geyser]

@cosmic prairie i'd rather make it so they can't take damage but also can't deal any, since people with SSDs would abuse this and attack others while being invincible

[cosmic prairie]

oh yeah nice point Kato!

[paper geyser]

thanks :)

[primal vault]

@zenith onyx Hey man! I was wondering if you wanted to combine our efforts to get our creature into the game? My DM's are open to how we can brainstorm.

[sonic cloud]

No.

Stego having a swing in legacy meant that you couldn’t attack it without taking damage yourself.
It removed any and all skill in both attacking stego and playing as a stego. It was either be a Rex, Spino or Giga and slaughter Stego with no counterplay for the Stego or be literally any other carnivore with zero chance off hunting it successfully even in a pack.

Evrima is meant to move away from “press x button to win” not go back in that direction

[mellow maple]

@shut raft Aight so, no offense, but Pteranodon picking up something with its foot and putting the word realism is just flat out incorrect.

Pteranodon's anatomy. Both in real life and The Isle do not show any more form of raptor-like traits. Pteranodon cannot pick up anything with their feet. And they are coastal animals, who prey on fish.

Even The Isle will double down on this as Pteranodon is not going to be a very combative animal. Its shown mostly eating fish and using its beak to defend itself from animals around its size range.

I'm unsure if it's mainly because of misconceptions like Jurassic Park/World, but I wanted to get that out there as it is just not realistic in any forms.

[vast wolf]

yeah ptera wont be grabbing anything in its feet. it will stab it or swallow things whole.

that being limited to things smaller than hypsi.

so hypsi oro homalo compy area

[shut raft]

Ho ok

[mellow maple]

Just to inform ya

[night mountain]

I think they should DEF add puru but no reason for it to not just be a deino skin

would be an easy af skin to add, why not do it? Wouldnt even need any new anims

[narrow sorrel]

hello, where should i play the isle, by that i mean what server do i go, im confussed of what server to play mainly

[paper oriole]

The only servers with real activity atm are nublar and nycta most of the time so probably one of those, but tbh better to pick another if you happen upon one with good population lol

[narrow sorrel]

i found some Asura servers

can i ask about the pteranodons and deinosuchus and the big update thing ?

is it being worked on still and where do i find it when it does ?

come out

[paper oriole]

#roadmap-updates

[narrow sorrel]

ok

but where can i find the updates ingame and play the latest versions

[blissful onyx]

You mean like Evirma?

[narrow sorrel]

ye

i gotta find a specific server ?

if so, is there a main channel for that

channel - server

[blissful onyx]

Oh hold in let me get u a link

Okay so this has instructions on how you do it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SurviveTheIsle/comments/k9jxvh/ive_made_a_guide_on_everything_evrima/

Also has some basic stuff. I think some of its a little dated tho but dont be afraid to ask around for tips

[narrow sorrel]

thank you!

[blissful onyx]

No prob!

[narrow sorrel]

should i play evirma or legacy

cuz im about to switch to evirma only i think

or is that a bad idea

[paper oriole]

Lmao upvoting your own suggestion and thinking giga needs to be any stronger than it is in legacy

Giga regens stam on the move, solos camara and trike easily, can trot down almost anything across the map, has a strong bite on top of its strong bleed. Its only real threat is rex which isn't even a guaranteed loss in a fight

[blissful onyx]

Evirma is the one getting updated regularly so I would go with that.

[barren zephyr]

^

@short jewel Rex is actually one of the best balanced creatures in legacy besides dibble

It has fame of being overpowered but it isnt

the op apex is giga by far

Buff trike already said why

The only things able to kill a giga without too much risk are rex, skilled(and also lucky) trikes,camara,spino,pue and strains

“its unfair that giga is the longest to grow of all the dinosaurs right now”. About this, rex takes longer to grow than giga, giga around 6,5h and rex 7h, and juvi giga is stronger and dorsnt starve in 20 minutes like juvi rex

[paper oriole]

Any giga with two brain cells to rub together destroys both trike and camara 1v1

[barren zephyr]

Yeah

it can practically two shot everything in the game

[paper oriole]

Pue doesnt count because you have to let it kill you and giga still solos it with the blindspot

[barren zephyr]

True

The only balance need if legacy is giga nerf lmao

And also little trike buff

but rex is fine

[paper oriole]

Yeag i can't believe people want giga to be stronger, he already demolishes most of the roster

Rex is easy to avoid unless its grouped with subs

[barren zephyr]

Giga isn't supposed to be stronger. Why are people suggesting that, it's a carchar.
Their prey die from blood wounds

Not pure strength like tyrannosaurs

Because sadly many people spend more time complaining about dying than thinking about balance, the same happens with dilo. Most of the players say it is one of the strongest but if you watch the stats and compare them with other dinos, it can perfectly be the overall worst carnivore in the game besides cerato

[paper oriole]

And giga can easily flee rex if it pays attention to its surroundings

[barren zephyr]

Yes

they can trot away

Its simple

Imagine stronger/faster giga xD

[barren zephyr]

Just change its name to gigatyrannosaur

And you said theri was op...

Honestly

Just replace giga for hyper one

@cosmic prairie
What video are you referring about?

[paper oriole]

Imagine hating mid tiers so much youd buff giga speed giga lovers never consider that or just don't care

[barren zephyr]

[paper oriole]

Remember the guys who wanted 50kmh giga

[barren zephyr]

Lol

[short jewel]

well giga is good only by assriding vs a rex honestly

[cosmic prairie]

dis bad boy
https://youtu.be/kgPwsr_beiM

[paper oriole]

Lmao just walk away from the rex bro

[short jewel]

ya

but i mean in a pvp match

[paper oriole]

Giga doesnt need to steamroll everything bro

[barren zephyr]

This video is of old assets and isn't the final Ptera.
Same with Ford's deino video
But i highly argree with you

“bc remember there is alt in some servers, and in evrima,duh, turn in place” Giga has the best alt turn in the entire game, it is also untouchable for everything that isnt a rex

[short jewel]

cough allo

[barren zephyr]

Nope

[cosmic prairie]

I figured, especially with the deino munch looking very long

[barren zephyr]

allo dies

[short jewel]

ya allos alt is faster

[paper oriole]

Rex is its only counter and it isnt even a hard counter, even my dumb ass has killed rex with giga before

[barren zephyr]

one shot and bleeds out

[short jewel]

well yes vs a rex duh

and gigs

[barren zephyr]

Compare alt turns

you have them in pinned messages of general chat

giga is faster, or in the worst of the cases as fast as allo, and weights 4 tons more lmao

[short jewel]

yeah lol

but smt that isnt logic is that rex is the only one who break bones

anky no

trike no

like bruh

[paper oriole]

Because rex has ass stam

[short jewel]

and YES its legacy

well maybe thats true

[paper oriole]

It ambushes and disables

[barren zephyr]

Rex has 35s stamina and cant regen it while walking

[short jewel]

yes

[barren zephyr]

meanwhile giga stamina lasts like 70 seconds?

and regens it while trotting

[short jewel]

like a dibble bro

yes

[paper oriole]

Like sure its dumb that they took bb from slowass anky but rex isnt op having it

[short jewel]

oh well

[barren zephyr]

And to limp you rex has to catch you

[short jewel]

its players only bc we are the only ones who decide what to play

[barren zephyr]

manage distances and you will be safe

[low canopy]

sometimes i wonder if this is trolling platform or people that actually know their shit about the game

[short jewel]

what?

[barren zephyr]

Who do you think is trolling?

[low canopy]

People that think that rex is fine balancing wise in legacy

[short jewel]

we are discussing

thats all

right bois?

[paper oriole]

It is though?

[barren zephyr]

Not trolling

[paper oriole]

Better than most other dinos at least

[barren zephyr]

Just check the stats and compare them

You have them in the isle wiki

[short jewel]

yeah

[low canopy]

stats dont take into consideration double/triple bites and so on

[barren zephyr]

[short jewel]

rex dobule biting

[barren zephyr]

Thats a bug

[short jewel]

p a l

yes

[paper oriole]

Rex isnt that unbalanced, the rest of the roster is. Bugs dont count either since its unintentional

[barren zephyr]

like hitboxes

[short jewel]

but anyways it works so i use it

[paper oriole]

They cant fix legacy bugs without making more

[barren zephyr]

Legacy code is broken

[short jewel]

it is

[barren zephyr]

thats the reason evrima exists

[paper oriole]

Spaghetti code

[short jewel]

everyone knows

legacy is history rn

evrima is the future

yeah that sounded dumb...

[barren zephyr]

Not so much, but yes, a little bit

[low canopy]

yea its kinda pointless to talk about legacy tbf

[short jewel]

[barren zephyr]

Agreed

Lets see what devs do wih evrima balance

*with

[short jewel]

yeh

well guys imma head off gotta do smt

cya guys was nice to talk about the broken legacy and the not balanced rex that after all is balanced

lol

[cobalt compass]

well, good that you finally came to the conclusion that legacy will be missed in the memories like kamino did in the jedi archives. rex needed bb to catch up like all other thing but anky, either it had a bb or would be a 2shot killer, which is even more ridicoulus. saying nerf rex in evrima also doesnt make much sense, cause its not an current playable for a while and i'll promise you, we(QA) would scream and yell like lolly robbed babies until we made sure as much as possible dinos are in balance 🤷‍♂️

some things arent worth the effort being discussed anymore
LEGACY

[safe galleon]

nerd

[cobalt compass]

thank you, i worked hard for this compliment ❤️

[short jewel]

bro you broke my soul

[cobalt compass]

you need a hug to comfort, cause im not sorry and that would be all i had to offer?

[barren zephyr]

The star wars reference

But i totally agree

[cobalt compass]

well, i hope it comes to the point of were only those who are willingly dig deep in history will play legacy in the future, cause legacy has none

[azure wadi]

Putting a thumbs up on your own suggestion is kinda sad

[jovial sleet]

megal doc was decent..i guess..most of it is the same/similar to the other megal doc...i still lowkey want megal to use burrows tho like in this one https://www.reddit.com/r/SurviveTheIsle/comments/kahqsc/megalania_in_evrima/

but i like the climbing idea tho in the other one

[paper oriole]

They don't even have normal crocs made though?

If they wanted to add something modern croc size they should do it with another prehistoric species anyway

[barren zephyr]

Koolasuchus intensifies

[narrow sorrel]

aigght

[narrow sorrel]

why exactly ? xd

[barren zephyr]

I have to agree with ptera wings position

it looks too rigid

even a plane has a better position lol

[azure wadi]

If you’re the only one to put a thumbs up on your own suggestion it means that you’re trying to make it look like someone agrees with you and makes you look desperate, which is kinda sad

Also the usage of “xd” is cringe

[inner hound]

putting positive emotes on your suggestion by yourself, makes the chance higher that itll get pressed aswell.
often people dont even read the suggestion fully and just emote because 'their fav animal gets buffed in said suggestion'

it may be a tad bit manipulative

[valid zephyr]

That same person upvotes their own suggestions every time.

[random imp]

[primal vault]

Alright I got 50 likes on my suggestion, can I make a more refined one?

[inner hound]

prionosuchus > koolasuchus

[paper geyser]

axolotl

[inner hound]

big axolotl

[paper geyser]

bigxolotl

[paper geyser]

it looks cute i want it

[primal vault]

Ok maybe we can compromise

cause if we do not work together the devs will not notice it

[inner hound]

tho i think koola is cool ngl

[barren zephyr]

koola is derpy and I want to hug it

[thorn glacier]

100% get it in rn

[barren zephyr]

hug the koola

[primal vault]

The reason I want koola is because it looks like nothing else. Priono looks like a deino or gharial.

[barren zephyr]

is ervima going to get fixed? or they just going to add in everything and then later fix all of it? cause right now its messy. like utah raptor not having a walk sniff animation, pounce is missing a beginning aniamtion. most of the dino's bob their head to much when drinking water. the map needs fixing, get stuck way to often. and no admin to call to...will these issues be addressed later on after the game settles in with good content?

[wary sparrow]

The Utah sniff while walking works

[barren zephyr]

no

theres no animations for it

[wary sparrow]

It does for me

[barren zephyr]

not for utah walk sniff

utah keeps his head straight while walking

when doing the sniff

[paper geyser]

yes everything will be fixed in due time, don't worry

[wary sparrow]

Also if you have any key issues try biting it usually fixes all my movement problems

[barren zephyr]

^^