#general-feedback-discussion

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paper oriole
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Kinda a dumb mechanic

mental sleet
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Well, Elders aren't on any one place on the Trello, so tying them (diets and perks) together based on it's shared use of the Dietary system and Perks is rather odd.

white spruce
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That wasn't the only point I made, but ok

mental sleet
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I didn't mention your other points because they are good.

white spruce
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Elders are still tied to perks regardless of when they're added though, and I admit that I doubt they'll be adding elders prior to perks being added simply because shmeemeemee won't have a purpose until perks are a thing.

paper oriole
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Upvoting your own suggestion TI_Yikes

night mountain
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yes stinky feet mechanic

paper oriole
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A dinosaur that just shits itself constantly and its tracks are just a trail of shit and thats why

white spruce
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"Someone who specializes in optimization" you mean a coder?

dapper forge
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It would be awesome if your dino has to take a šŸ’© from time to time, and likewise other dinos can pick up the smell and use it as another way of tracking šŸ™‚

lofty pagoda
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no

safe galleon
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no

paper geyser
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no

languid crown
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big no

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it would be awesome if you didnt post a šŸ’© suggestion everytime you think you have a good šŸ’© idea šŸ™‚

dapper pulsar
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🚫

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I just tapped that fucking send button so many times and I feel repulsive

barren zephyr
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you surely must have that inner 5 year old of yours

dapper forge
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@languid crown I don't understand

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instead of poop I posted emoticon

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What is wrong with that? It was suggestion nothing esle

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else*

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You can like it or dislike it, why the hatred?

barren zephyr
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oh wait

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nvm

dapper forge
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Animals do poop right...and they can be traced with the smell

verbal scarab
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R cancels hypsis bile shot

inner hound
warm remnant
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to lonized's suggestion babies can really do nothing when adult pounces them TI_utah so...why

inner hound
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poop

warm remnant
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haha poopy

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stinky

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funni

inner hound
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uh oh

warm remnant
inner hound
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lmao

lofty pagoda
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cool

safe galleon
barren zephyr
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Yes, but poop is another means animals detect other animals

paper geyser
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oh god not the shit discussion again

barren zephyr
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Footprints are a visual indicator, and considering dinosaurs have very good colour vision, it's not too hard for an animal to track via footprints

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But tracking via scent can be efficient for those with strong senses of smell, such as Tyrannosaurs, Allosaurs (including acros and gigas), and Dromaeosaurs.

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N O

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and footprints are not a direct cause for a scent trail, but scent is caused primarily by secretions from the animal (typically hormones)

icy lion
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you forget this is a videogame where we smell the footprints

barren zephyr
icy lion
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i would hope so

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so why this discussion hm?

barren zephyr
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BUT because I am not a player, though I plan on getting this game, I am spitting technical facts regardless of ingame mechanics.

valid zephyr
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I’m sure Bryan would be thrilled to have to animate 60 dino pooping animations... /s

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It’s completely unneeded for the game

barren zephyr
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Well true

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But why does sniffing footprints have to the only means of detecting other animals

paper geyser
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i just think defecation isn't needed

barren zephyr
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I mean scent irl is passively let out by animals

paper geyser
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we already have footprints and blood

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smelling shit doesn't seem like something that would help all that much

barren zephyr
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yeah shit is a bit useless tbh

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So irl, predators that track prey via scent mostly rely on the wind, though the direction where the wind is blowing is critical, as is the distance of the scent trail.

valid zephyr
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Would make it very hard for the more useless part of the roster to survive

barren zephyr
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But the sense of smell in various animals depends a lot

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Most carnivorous dinosaurs had very good senses of smell AND eyesight

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T. rex maximum sight range extended 6 kilometers (for humans it's only 1.6 km)

valid zephyr
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And realism doesn’t always make good gameplay. If it was realistic half the roster would be useless

icy lion
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sight (outside of nv) is also very very hard to portray in a game without causing major accessibility issues or outright making the animal unfun

barren zephyr
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well you're playing from a 3rd person perspective and not a 1st person one, so 1st person sight doesn't matter too much

solar salmon
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what does people think about the backleg kick on Trike?

valid zephyr
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Think that should be saved more for animals like para and shant. Trikes entire thing is overwhelming frontal power

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It doesn’t even have the build to get its back legs into the right location

solar salmon
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I agree that Hadrosaurs should have a kick to, but I think it would change a bit how Trike would fight. It would also be better when fighting 2 Rexes.

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or maybe if something like a raptor keeps on following it and biting at it's legs and it just kicks it

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bam ded

valid zephyr
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No way would a trikes kick effect a rex at all.

solar salmon
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I do think it would

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Imagine a kick to the leg from a 8 ton animal

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Rex would fall over

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100%

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It's a damn powerful kick

valid zephyr
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Giving trike a powerful rear attack completely defeats the point of stego and anky

solar salmon
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no

icy lion
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trike wouldnt really be able to kick without dislocating something

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its not an elephant

solar salmon
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I know it's not an Elephant

valid zephyr
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Stego rear attack doesn’t knock carno over. And you want trike to smash rex to the ground with a single rear kick

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That’s just wanting trike to not have a weakness

solar salmon
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That Stego doesn't knock Carno over when hitting it directly to the body is something they have to work with.

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It shouldn't be able to spam kick

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it would take alot of stamina and they could maybe have a cooldown on it like with Carnos charge

valid zephyr
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It’s legit the worst built animal apart from anky for kicking

solar salmon
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I think it looks like it could pull of a kick if it tried

barren zephyr
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it could kick

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but it would be op wouldn't it

solar salmon
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I mean

barren zephyr
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unless kick does almost nothing apart from cc

solar salmon
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as I said above

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you could have a cooldown and it would only be usable if really needed because it would take alot of stamina

barren zephyr
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yea

solar salmon
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like those legs look long enough to kick

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and if it could run fast I think it will kick too if it wanted to

barren zephyr
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s p e e d

icy lion
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the legs on that toy are much longer than irl

civic sparrow
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Maybe a single legged kick, but not like a horse buck type kick (like Tenos)

worn pumice
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trike kicking seems a lil strange tbh

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instead if u want just give it a stomp

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for smaller creatures it cant get with its horns

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the whole idea of ceratopsians is the powerful frontal stuff they got their weak spot is the back

civic sparrow
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It just seems so easy for like 3 Utah’s to take one down

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It’d be easy to connect a pounce

worn pumice
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i mean utahs can kill a stego much easier too

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takes 4 pounces on a stego which isnt that hard tbh

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i think its not the trike

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but rather the poorly made pounce system

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pounce should be more strategic and it should make u use ur brain instead of clicking a button and animal dies

valid zephyr
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The idea of an animal which has its entire focus on frontal power, having a rear kick which one shots a rex to the ground is absurd.

Also the legs on that model are much longer than the in game one.

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And if the rear kick is super powerful and knocks a rex down in one hit, what do you want of the frontal attack? just one hit death?

worn pumice
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pounce being more strategic will seperate the people who play smart and the ones who just run in

civic sparrow
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Wait who said anything about it 1 shotting a Rex TI_Scream

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But yeah pounce should take way more strategy

dense wagon
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trike same size as an elephant? i thought it was bigger

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sounds like bs

civic sparrow
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Huh?

dense wagon
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on a suggestion

civic sparrow
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Someone said that TI_Wheeze

dense wagon
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Edit: I got the idea because I've seen videos of Elephants kicking with their backleg and Trike is about the same size.

civic sparrow
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Oh lmfaoo

dense wagon
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oh shit

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that croc/gator got fucking punted lmao

civic sparrow
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Yeah lmfaoo

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I think it’s a gator

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shant doing that to deino when

barren zephyr
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what

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so a triceratops kicking?

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it can't bear weight on two legs at all, or at least it can't do so for a long time period

civic sparrow
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I think they meant a one legged kick

barren zephyr
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Triceratops is such a bloody big animal

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i mean it already has horns and that big beefy body

civic sparrow
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But yeah seems kinda weird

barren zephyr
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it could do a charge like a rhinoceros though

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running over stuff with it's weight

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i mean it could maybe even topple over a rex

civic sparrow
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I’m just wonder how on earth it’ll defend itself from Utah packs

barren zephyr
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but it's not especially fast at all

civic sparrow
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It’d be so easy for like 2 Utah’s to kill by just taking turns pouncing it’s backside

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Cause it can’t face both at once

lost whale
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From what I can gather triceratops is comparable to an elephant, though an elephant is taller cuase trike is so stout. No way that it could be doing any kicking with its weight and a one legged kick probably wouldn't have enough strength to take on much.
I'd agree to it just running stuff over with weight like soup forty said.

dense wagon
civic sparrow
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Ye

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Kinda like how rhinos put their backs to things when packs come to them

valid zephyr
barren zephyr
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a kick is too little to knock over

civic sparrow
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For real!? TI_Wheeze

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Sorry didn’t know that lmfao

barren zephyr
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though trying to push over the attacker would be a lot more reasonable

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though not possible due to a lack of true physics and whatnot

fervent fable
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@civic sparrow that'd be so cool to see
i'd love to have areas to hide underwater

civic sparrow
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same!

verbal scarab
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@barren zephyr spino won’t swim, it will walk through the water like a hippo

barren zephyr
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Oh

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Seriously?

verbal scarab
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Yes

twin burrow
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I mean it'll also clearly swim

brittle ivy
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If you’re referring to texture settings, it was stated in the recent patch notes that you cannot change them at this time.

barren zephyr
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damn I havent been hit with that bug yet

solid wedge
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itll help show what you mean

worn pumice
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yes ty

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i couldnt crop the photo

solid wedge
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here i got it, i quote you and everything

worn pumice
paper geyser
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@hazy plover not cheating, a feature of a dynamic ecosystem

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just like hypsis helping stegos take down carnos and utahs, it's part of the game and makes the environment feel more alive

solid wedge
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I feel like irl they probably do something similar so they might be feed

paper geyser
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yeah its not uncommon for scavengers to lead predators to prey or follow predators themselves

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they're smart enough to know that they'll get the scraps

nimble thistle
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There is really no need to make ptera even more unattainable since it is the only flyer for a long time. Free vertical takeoff does also make the whole "running start" mechanic nearly useless. Overwhelming majority of players will prefer to look at this animation twice and forget it is even in the game.
Also, as I remember, vertical takeoff is already a thing being added for jumping from cliffs @zenith onyx

zenith onyx
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Hey, it can still be implimented

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There are always players who will use either or

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And if u actually watched the dev streams you'd understand what the Running start is for. Its basically meant to build up tons of speed for long flight

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the short jump into the air would just be to escape a predator

steady lintel
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isnt a short take off for petra already being implemented? i thought i read about it in the dev blog or something

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The takeoffs work better now as well. Starting your flight from running is free, but it only lifts you up a little. Taking off from standing still takes you much higher quickly, but you’ll feel its impact on your stamina so it’s best suited for situations where you need to get away quickly. @zenith onyx this is directly from the dev blog

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no need to jump off a mountain either from the sounds of it

barren zephyr
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@polar anchor that is the entire reason why there is evrima

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They literally cannot update legacy

polar anchor
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well they tried doing it

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legacy got fucked even more

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i'm asking to take the update back

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not try to fix the game

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cuz as said, i know the code is broken

barren zephyr
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I doubt doing that fixes it

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they've done that

polar anchor
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it was fine before weirdly enough

barren zephyr
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and its failed multiple times before

polar anchor
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Legacy didnt have this bad TP and hitbox issues before

barren zephyr
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with bugs remaining, and even getting worse when they revert

polar anchor
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also since the update ppl seem to not be able to log in and shit like that

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for me its just TPing and hitboxes, but for some people they literally can not join the game

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imagine paying for a game that you cant even play

barren zephyr
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well that's legacy

polar anchor
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and steam only refunds if youve played under 2 hours and had the game for less than 2 weeks

barren zephyr
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@barren zephyr me and akuma are having a discussion about literally the same thing

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That rex ribs poofing

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Fucked us up

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yes

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but they cannot fix it

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othersie everythign else breaks

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that is the literal reason evrima exists

steady lintel
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can they even simply switch it back to an older version?

barren zephyr
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no

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They still need to maintain legacy

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To some sort od degree

frank slate
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how

barren zephyr
safe galleon
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tentacle just keeps coming up with good ideas

barren zephyr
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@barren zephyr why

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if they do ANYTHING at all

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the entire fucking game breaks

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How the hell did that even happen

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Well

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Id rather have chinese hacking hypos

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Than not being able to literslly wall

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Wall

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Walk

frank slate
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that could also be the server you're playing on, what server you on?

barren zephyr
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Nycta 3

frank slate
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there you go

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many players = more lag

paper geyser
steady lintel
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nycta servers are always ass

barren zephyr
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Not really dragon

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It also happens w 50 players on

frank slate
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also depends on when the server restarted

barren zephyr
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Even a minute after restart

barren zephyr
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Lag is still same

frank slate
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try another server

barren zephyr
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I played isle for a few years

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And lag has never been so bad

paper geyser
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a pretty big miracle, Am went out of his way to fix legacy and then fix it some more when the fix needed fixing

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and people were ungrateful

frank slate
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If the hackers didnt touch legacy they didnt need to break it :p

barren zephyr
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I might sound dumb

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But

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Why not hire some1

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To look after Legacy

paper geyser
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waste of money

barren zephyr
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Not at all

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Legacy is still main juice

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Of the game

paper geyser
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legacy isn't worth spending time on when they're actively working on a new game

barren zephyr
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Still

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It will take so much more time

paper geyser
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There is no still, it's not worth the cost

barren zephyr
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Till Evrima comes near Legacy

paper geyser
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if it was they'd have probably have done it already

barren zephyr
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U gotta understand

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All evrima players come from legacy

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And while evrima is fun and all

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Its a baby game

paper geyser
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I understand the majority of people play legacy but there isn't much to be done about it, the code is fucked and Am did the best he could for the time being

verbal scarab
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what

frank slate
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baby game?

verbal scarab
frank slate
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do you mean new?

paper geyser
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Evrima as a base game is already way better than Legacy my guy

barren zephyr
barren zephyr
paper geyser
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and it's only been 6 months, they're working exceptionally hard

barren zephyr
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Baby meaning

frank slate
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give evrima some time and more dinos will come and people will forget about legacy

barren zephyr
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Its not fully fletched

paper geyser
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fledged

barren zephyr
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Evrima will take a while

paper geyser
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i get what you mean, but spending time and money on legacy is not the way to go

barren zephyr
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Quite a while actually

barren zephyr
paper geyser
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evrima will have apexes and mercenaries next year if everything goes according to plan, that isn't long at all

barren zephyr
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Next year

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Is alot of time

paper geyser
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not long enough to warrant an entirely new team member to take care of a dead branch

barren zephyr
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You do not need a whole team

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-_-

frank slate
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the only thing that took long was to fix the hardcore lag and teleporting, now thats fixed dinos should come as planned

paper geyser
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a new team member

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are you even listening

frank slate
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how would you get a new dev to care for broken code?

barren zephyr
# barren zephyr You do not need a whole team

You want to put all that bullshit trying to mess with spaghetti code on one person? it would take the entire dev team to go anywhere, likely not a good direction, WHICH IS THE ENTIRE FUCKING REASON THEY MADE EVRIMA

paper geyser
barren zephyr
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Ive been hearing about recode

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For YEARS

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they always taking their time

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-_-

verbal scarab
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ok, and?

frank slate
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that would take SOOOO much time that would be put better in evrima

safe galleon
paper geyser
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yes and its been out for 6 months and it's already better than legacy, please at least try to understand

frank slate
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games take time

barren zephyr
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They do

frank slate
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much time

verbal scarab
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yandere sim TI_Troll

barren zephyr
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And you also need something to play

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Meanwhile

frank slate
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XD

paper geyser
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which you have, legacy

barren zephyr
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Legacy is barely playable

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-_-

frank slate
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its playable

paper geyser
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they can't and won't spend money and time on a dead branch just so you can then complain more about how long evrima is taking.

barren zephyr
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oh wait I replied to the wrong guy

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Well

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They could also revert

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Versions

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Couldnt they

paper geyser
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"i need something playable" legacy is playable, go play it

frank slate
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and bring back hypos

barren zephyr
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I mean

frank slate
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so hackers can abuse that again

barren zephyr
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Whats the big issue in that really

paper geyser
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bring back hypers and countless hacks, great idea

barren zephyr
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Why not

verbal scarab
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There’s a server that literally found a way to play hypos again

barren zephyr
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U dont keep old versions?

paper geyser
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The code is fucked, are you even reading

barren zephyr
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THEY LITERALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT BREAKING IT

paper geyser
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let me explain

barren zephyr
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I am

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reverting has in the past broken teh game further

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But it became even more fucked

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After this patch

paper geyser
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The code, is fucked, it is spaghetti. Nobody can do anything without breaking it more. So stop asking for it to be fixed as if it can, because it cannot.

frank slate
# barren zephyr Whats the big issue in that really

the issue is that they will get money for assests made by the devs that are unfinished and not meant to be used and profit on it. i bet you would be annoyed if someone touched a game you made and started making money for stuff you made

barren zephyr
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Tfw

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They did so much work on hypos

barren zephyr
edgy harbor
barren zephyr
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They could finished alberto

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WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND

frank slate
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yep

barren zephyr
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Theri

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And other dinks

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Dinos

paper geyser
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theri was bought

edgy harbor
barren zephyr
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This is giving me flashbacks of the "all odd numbers have an 'e' in it" thing

paper geyser
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They did so much work but as I've detailed above, the code is unusable. Hence why they're creating it again from the ground up. Just be patient

frank slate
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They did make progress on those dinos BUT hypos were their dinos, any dino that wasnt finished they still let you play

edgy harbor
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I'm fine if you want to prove a point but don't provoke negative reactions.

barren zephyr
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alrright I'll chill

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Some dinos cant even nest

frank slate
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At the end of the day enjoy the game, if you hate how legacy is now wait for is successor to flourish and youll be surprised :)

barren zephyr
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Meanwhile u got so many strains

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Its just the way they go about it that confuses me

paper geyser
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It. Is. Unusable.

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they couldn't fix legacy if they tried

barren zephyr
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Hypos were out for years

paper geyser
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What part are you failing to understand

barren zephyr
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Mate

frank slate
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Tbh if they could fix the code dont you think the first thing to fix would be the broken hitboxes

barren zephyr
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So u code a bunchf of hypos

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But cant fix og dinos

paper geyser
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Yes mate, you code a bunch and realise it's too broken to go on and then scrap it

frank slate
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why

paper geyser
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I doubt they were happy about having to remake the game, but that's what's happening now

frank slate
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not to mention its free to current isle owners

steady lintel
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it should be free

barren zephyr
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They way they make u redownload it tho

barren zephyr
paper geyser
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Yeah, they could be charging people for evrima but they're not

barren zephyr
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Why not make it like PUBG

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Where when u own the original game

frank slate
paper geyser
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oh my fucking god dude, you have to be trolling at this point

verbal scarab
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V3 players when they they TI_Troll

barren zephyr
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The beta is added to librarg

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Mate

steady lintel
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yeah they could of but it would be hella wrong

barren zephyr
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Im talking about the download thing

frank slate
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exactly

paper geyser
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If it could've been done, it would've been done already. Trust me you don't know better than they do

barren zephyr
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Why do u have to switch versions all the time

barren zephyr
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\steam I guess

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I mean

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Pubg did it

verbal scarab
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Dondi wit the 10k twitch donationsTI_Champ

barren zephyr
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With their experimental servers

paper geyser
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you can get both branches at the same time too

barren zephyr
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How?

barren zephyr
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wait wat

paper geyser
barren zephyr
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Does he copy the folder?

verbal scarab
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Who would want to play legacy tho

barren zephyr
paper geyser
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you just rename one branch and then download the other

barren zephyr
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Because evrima is still nothing

verbal scarab
frank slate
paper geyser
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evrima is far better than legacy in base terms, stop trashing it just because you don't like it

verbal scarab
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Evrima is literally the best the isle has ever been

barren zephyr
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Its still just too early for me

barren zephyr
paper geyser
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Awesome, doesn't mean you need to shit on it

frank slate
verbal scarab
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All evrima players got high iq

frank slate
barren zephyr
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Never said evrima is bad its just too early for it to actually switch legacy

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Does any1 server in evrima even have rules

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I've seen nothing but dopey carnos all day long

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Beside chat

frank slate
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yep, unofficial servers

verbal scarab
paper geyser
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Have you even played evrima lol

barren zephyr
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One of the main setbacks

verbal scarab
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who needs rules when the game limits you šŸ˜Ž

barren zephyr
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Im not really into getting spawn killed

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Or getting 2017 vines

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Vibes

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With mega packs

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Just go to a dead zone

verbal scarab
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what

barren zephyr
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southeast spawn

verbal scarab
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center spawn gang 🄵

barren zephyr
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ai everywhere and no players

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Still tho u could just run into some mixpack mega gang

frank slate
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tbh you dont even need rules, only 2 rules you need is mixpacking and overpakcing

barren zephyr
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And die like that

lofty pagoda
verbal scarab
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where we dropping boys, am I right?

frank slate
barren zephyr
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Also

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I noticed evrima is really

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How do I say it

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Colorful

frank slate
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green

verbal scarab
#

is this reference to gay TI_Squint

frank slate
#

you want it dull?

barren zephyr
#

Idk tbh

verbal scarab
#

bro U play legacy with bright af dinos and stuff

frank slate
#

if i was in a forest id expect it to be colourful

verbal scarab
#

Almost said I played legacy 🄵

paper geyser
#

yeah legacy forests are really dull and desaturated

verbal scarab
#

Never ever

barren zephyr
#

If I was playing with birds of paradise dinos I'd expect colorful

verbal scarab
barren zephyr
#

Idk im prolly to used to legacy but sometimes dull is nice

frank slate
#

you cant hide either, i think theres a few places in legacy where you can hide but most of the time its open

barren zephyr
#

Kinda reminds me of

#

Progression map

#

Back in the day

frank slate
#

wasnt here for that

barren zephyr
#

I just hope evrima wont be like legacy

#

Where

frank slate
#

but i do remember carnivore dryo xD

barren zephyr
#

Majority of the server sits in GF

frank slate
#

it wont, it will be better

paper geyser
#

nah there will be punishment for afk grows and stuff like that

barren zephyr
#

I want evrima to have natural disasters

#

So people move their ass

#

From hotspots

wary sparrow
#

There will be droughts and floods

frank slate
#

^

barren zephyr
#

Lmao

barren zephyr
#

I heard somewhere I think

#

60% of progression map was opem

#

Open

frank slate
#

i love in evrima you can literally hide and avoid things if you're smart. feels good to lose that one guy on your arse

paper geyser
#

^

barren zephyr
#

Well

#

Happend to me today

#

I log in as rex

#

And a pair comes at me

paper geyser
#

evrima has amazing foliage that actually makes forests useful and its great

verbal scarab
#

Do you guys agree with my suggestion?

barren zephyr
#

Due to legacys broken Lighting

#

I escaped lmak

barren zephyr
frank slate
#

yep i love it

barren zephyr
verbal scarab
#

yay

frank slate
#

same lol

barren zephyr
#

I wonder how the game would be if they had collision

frank slate
#

with the broken hitboxes? unplayable

barren zephyr
#

xD

frank slate
#

i wonder if broken hitboxes were fixed would that cause an uproar, adding to that would players not play non alt

barren zephyr
#

Alt turn is just meh

#

Imo

#

People using it for combat are just bad

frank slate
#

alt turn is bad, i like turn evrima

barren zephyr
#

Alt turn was made

#

To get unstuck

verbal scarab
barren zephyr
#

Not to fucking dance around

#

I once went on a DM server

#

And left 2 mins after

#

Cuz of alt turning rexed n pues

frank slate
#

same consept with utah vs rex

#

just a utah biting the rexes leg for 10 mins

barren zephyr
#

It does require skill tho

#

Unlike 1 click on ur keyboard

frank slate
#

not much skill imo

barren zephyr
#

1 wrong move

verbal scarab
#

legacy is not very skill based, if you pick a dinosaur your skill is decided for you

barren zephyr
#

And u get into a rexes left hitbox ur doomed

frank slate
#

the wrong move was fighting the rex

#

as utah

barren zephyr
#

Lol why

frank slate
#

why would it?

barren zephyr
#

Why not

#

You wanna make apexes gods?

frank slate
#

thats the point of apex?

barren zephyr
#

Apex is strong

#

But

#

With power

#

Also comes a sacrifice

frank slate
#

whats the sacrifice?

barren zephyr
#

A garbo turn radius

#

For rex

#

Shitty bleed heal

#

No regen heal when standing

frank slate
#

yeah

barren zephyr
#

Spino for example

#

Got good turn

#

Stam regen

#

But a pretty weak bite

frank slate
#

i dont want to compare sandbox dinos as they werent finished

barren zephyr
#

Take the mid tiers then

#

For example

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Carno

#

garbo turn radius, for rex, ridiculously slow for spino, shitty hp for giga, and loses to literally ducking everything, for acro

#

wait I censored fuck without meaning to

#

Giga needs more HP

#

Imo

#

giga is the most speedy and slender of the apexes

#

Rex has 700 more HP than its weight

#

deals the most bleed

#

Giga will still lose most of time tho

frank slate
#

giga can choose its fight with apexes

barren zephyr
#

Even if u are good giga

#

And u fight a spoon

#

U will most likely lose

#

giga should be a speed demon(for an apex), have the best stam(for an apex), and deal the best bleed out of all apexes

#

U see thing is

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Theres bleed caps

#

So 50 bleed isnt as amazing as it sounds

frank slate
#

just remember, you dont need to fight everything you see, in a survival you wouldnt fight a rex or giga unless you are sure youd win

barren zephyr
#

an agile hunter that relies on surprise and continuous pressure on its target

#

Well

#

Dragonz

#

Id fight every giga

#

As rex or spoon

#

And many other will say so too

frank slate
#

i know they will and thats whats wrong with legacy, its less about survival and more about what to find and fight

#

you need to worry for your life in survival, if i saw an apex as an apex i would leave as that would be risky

barren zephyr
#

Well

#

You dont grow an apex

#

To kill tier 3s

paper geyser
#

you also don't grow an apex to pick fights with other apexes

barren zephyr
#

yes you do

#

Well

#

Id say otherwise

#

Most apexes

paper geyser
#

That's my point, you grow for whatever you want

barren zephyr
#

Target apexes

verbal scarab
#

tiers 🤢

barren zephyr
#

Instead of smaller creatures

paper geyser
#

ideally an apex will be killing mid tiers because they are its prey, apexes are too much of a danger to be worth the risk

barren zephyr
#

Thats realistically

paper geyser
#

strains hunt apexes

barren zephyr
#

But think about gameplay

#

Do u really want

paper geyser
#

yes

#

we do

barren zephyr
#

Apexes to bully mid tiers

frank slate
#

yes

barren zephyr
#

And have a apex fiesta

steady lintel
#

Smaller creatures are faster and can get away, what’s the prob?

paper geyser
#

strains hunt apexes, apexes hunt mids, mids hunt smalls

#

theres a chain

frank slate
#

apex should be hard af to get and rewarding when done but they should be rare to see

barren zephyr
#

Without strains

paper geyser
#

without strains great, you have nothing to worry about

frank slate
#

elder then die

barren zephyr
#

apexes are meant to hunt everything below them

#

the strains just kill everything

paper geyser
#

you can try to hunt an apex as an apex, but it will be hard and likely not worth the pain

barren zephyr
#

Well

#

I feel like its more rewarding

#

Imo

#

Hunting mid tiers

#

Is just too easy

paper geyser
#

That's fine, but the game won't be tailored that way

barren zephyr
#

its high risk high reward hutning an apex

frank slate
#

but then you sit there for 10 mins healing and more depending on body down servers

barren zephyr
#

Well

#

We killed a rex today

#

And his ribs dipped on us

#

Xd

paper geyser
#

Killing 5 allos quickly is a much better tradeoff than killing one apex then healing for half an hour

#

all the while being on the lookout for mid tiers trying to abuse you

frank slate
#

body down ruins the game for me, its needed in legacy sometimes cause of poor balancing

barren zephyr
#

Body down is greatest thing ever imo

frank slate
#

id like to run kill and eat then go off again

steady lintel
#

Body tether is the best solution

#

Imo

barren zephyr
#

Did u ever play

#

depends on how severe the body down rule is

#

Official servers

paper geyser
#

I don't like body down rules or any rules at all imo, if I wanna hunt imma hunt
in evrima*

frank slate
#

in evrima body down is not needed at all

#

in legacy i can understand why its needed

barren zephyr
#

Id still like body down rule in evrima

#

Just prevents

#

Dickheads running around

frank slate
#

just find a server with it

barren zephyr
#

Killing everyone

paper geyser
#

you can have them in unofficial servers

barren zephyr
#

Thate why im waiting till evrima is actually ripe

steady lintel
#

I feel like there’s a reason why unofficial servers always have more players

barren zephyr
#

For anythin with rules

paper geyser
#

and there's a reason why official servers aren't dead

frank slate
#

nycta has a server on evrima with rules i think

barren zephyr
#

How many players do officials even have nowadays

steady lintel
#

50 compared 100+

barren zephyr
#

Just chat rules@DRAGONZz#6660

paper geyser
#

100+ isn't intended

barren zephyr
#

50 players

paper geyser
#

it fucks with the game, said so by QA

barren zephyr
#

On V3

#

Lmao

paper geyser
#

the intended cap is 75

#

for now

steady lintel
#

Official legacy can hold more

paper geyser
#

because legacy is fucked and old

barren zephyr
#

Oh nope

#

Legacy is laggy af

#

Over 100

#

At 200

#

Its just chaos

#

At GF

#

Especially

frank slate
#

if you go higher then the offical cap it will cause problems for the game, thats why bug reports dont get accepted if you play unofficical

paper geyser
#

that makes a lot of sense actually

steady lintel
#

The official servers are over 75 is my point

paper geyser
#

for legacy

frank slate
#

they are 75

barren zephyr
#

But then again

frank slate
#

oh

barren zephyr
#

Imagine

#

50 players

frank slate
#

for legacy yeah

barren zephyr
#

On Ve

#

3

paper geyser
#

There is a reason why it's 75 on Evrima but not on legacy

steady lintel
#

Yeah I get evrima is diff

#

I haven’t seen the official servers on it so I wouldn’t know the limit or anything like that

barren zephyr
#

Afaik

#

In most gamrs

paper geyser
#

it's 75, anything higher is problematic, like dragon said

barren zephyr
#

Officials suck ass

frank slate
#

not on evrima :p

#

only bad thing is mixpacking

barren zephyr
#

Just wait till

frank slate
#

and overpacking

barren zephyr
#

They add

#

More dinks

#

And mega packs

#

Form

paper geyser
#

I though having 130 players was good but it causes a bunch of issues and tbh there is way too much player interaction, like i was in a pack of 20 utahs

barren zephyr
#

Thats cuz

#

There not many dinos

#

To choose from

paper geyser
#

not at all

#

130 players means more of each dinosaur, statistically

barren zephyr
#

But then again

paper geyser
#

75 to 130 is a big jump

barren zephyr
#

U need to look

#

At ur options

frank slate
#

i cant wait for more dinos get more variety

barren zephyr
#

Add more options

#

And u get less of esch kind

paper geyser
#

what dragon said

steady lintel
barren zephyr
#

w're getting 2 more next month ty devs ā¤ļø

paper geyser
#

im excited for more dinos because they're all just so unique

frank slate
#

no idea mate

barren zephyr
#

Tbh

paper geyser
#

compared to legacy where it's all different models and different stats, evrima actually has unique abilities and playstyles

frank slate
#

whos pumped for deino :p

barren zephyr
#

Sucho wasnt reslly an knteredting dino

paper geyser
#

meeee

#

i want to roleplay alligator and sunbathe

barren zephyr
#

Ah yes

paper geyser
#

unironically

barren zephyr
#

Wait till spoons are in evrima

frank slate
#

deino with baby lazors will make me die of cuteness

steady lintel
#

Sun bathe for hours

paper geyser
#

i really hope baby deinos have pew pew sounds

barren zephyr
#

I reslly hope spino will get a water buff

#

For once

paper geyser
#

i'll drown myself every time i become sub adult just to keep hearing pew pew

frank slate
#

lol

barren zephyr
#

Deino will be an apex right

frank slate
#

yes

verbal scarab
#

no

frank slate
#

i think dondi said that?

barren zephyr
#

Ptera will be mid tier?

verbal scarab
#

It was stated that it’s not

frank slate
#

no idea

paper geyser
#

for the time being i believe it will, not sure about overall (deino)

frank slate
#

ah ok

barren zephyr
#

Well

#

If its a mid tier

verbal scarab
barren zephyr
#

I see why they took out sucho

#

From what ive seen

#

Ptera aint that small

#

As a dryo

#

Atleast in legacy

#

It wasnt

verbal scarab
#

Ptera never was in legacy

paper geyser
#

dryo is as big as an utah in evrima

wary sparrow
#

There was no ptera in legacy

barren zephyr
#

It wss

wary sparrow
#

No

barren zephyr
#

During hypo events

verbal scarab
#

omfg

wary sparrow
#

That was a quetz

barren zephyr
#

Was it?

wary sparrow
#

Not a ptera

barren zephyr
#

They made both a quetz and a ptera?

#

-_-

paper geyser
#

oh boy

frank slate
#

quetz was in legacy iirc

verbal scarab
#

this dude TI_Squint

barren zephyr
verbal scarab
barren zephyr
#

I also saw the glitchy titsnoboa

#

Once

#

It was funny

frank slate
#

i hope they bring back the titanboa

dire peak
#

pretty sure deino hatchlings riding on adults or being carried by them is hard to do

barren zephyr
#

I think they are struggling with physics

#

For titano

frank slate
#

yeah it would be but cool af

paper geyser
#

if they just make the baby lock onto the adult's head i think it'd be easier

#

but i know nothing about game dev so ignore me

barren zephyr
#

Yall know

#

Before the isle

steady lintel
#

Pouncing is a thing they might be able to do something similar

barren zephyr
#

I played a roblox game

steady lintel
#

For the babies

paper geyser
#

yes like that

barren zephyr
#

Called Dinosaur simulayor

#

It was pretty simple

#

Yet so cool

#

They even had a mechsnic

#

Where u can grab dinos

#

With ur jaw

frank slate
#

i hope evrima does something like that with nesting

barren zephyr
#

Dads when

#

-_-

#

All them single moms need to stop

#

Lmao

#

So that hatchlings get more skin variety

frank slate
#

it would be cool

civic sparrow
#

Yeah you will have to have both genders to best in evrima

barren zephyr
#

I don't like that mechanic very much

#

Sure they go for realism in most mechanics but the nesting one I find a bit inconvenient.

dapper pulsar
#

Aerial variety pog

barren zephyr
civic sparrow
#

In the whole vid the gator just crawled off and swam away

dense wagon
#

@verbal scarab why

verbal scarab
#

because evrima won’t stay in update 2 forever

#

and I think it would take time for devs to implement the trailer

#

and that time could be used for new playable s and mechanics

dense wagon
#
  1. it will for at least a month for a new update and they are kinda taking a break from development rn
  2. sieza stated that they will be making more trailers over the course of evrima's updating so it will still stay accurate to what is currently in the game
verbal scarab
#

Yes but it will take time away from development

dense wagon
#

i wouldn't think it would take long at all, it's just replacing video files, is it not?

verbal scarab
#

Idk man the devs do like 1 thing a day

dense wagon
#

and it would take some editing but not long compared to much else

#

eh, they are on vacation so

frank slate
#

I personally like the fact you can see after death for a few seconds, add that "what would they do after me dying"

still rapids
#

After a death in evrima I like to atleast see the player actually eat my corpse so that my death wasn't totally wasted.

barren zephyr
#

Yes Seizas trailer was good.. but the hope trailer fits the game better and it's overall more appealing imo.

normal surge
#

@brave rampart what do you mean the cougar niche?

brave rampart
#

Meaning it's stealthy, it runs down its prey, it can jump pretty high

#

Theres a lot more to it than what I've just stated

#

This is one of the facts

#

Mountain Lion Adaptations: They have short yet vigorousĀ clawsĀ to help them catch and crush the animal's neck. Their hindĀ legsĀ are longer then their frontĀ legsĀ to help them jump more then 18 feet from cliff to cliff. The only issue is that they can only sprint short distances to catch prey, not long ones.

normal surge
#

It weighs 1600 kgs, if it jumped high it wound break its legs, and its plantigrade like us and bears, so a super jump isn’t an option

brave rampart
#

Take out the jump

normal surge
#

That’s why I said tiger, short distance ambush hunter that pins down and final bites it’s prey

brave rampart
#

So presto should also be a good swimmer?

normal surge
#

Compared to other land carnivores of its size maybe? Compared to aquatics hell no

#

Like teno in a sense, faster then most, but not super quick in water

brave rampart
#

Idk I just saw a chart that showed the facts about cougar, and that they use their claws a lot so I thought it was a good idea

normal surge
#

Then again, that’s a cat, and presto’s claws are more like a crocs or a dogs, there, but more for traction and less grabbing prey

dense wagon
hot spear
#

@cinder plank I dont think thats possible
Coding the option for evrima into the legacy menu would mean messing with legacy's code again
And adding a whole set of code (all of evrima's code) and mixing and merging that into legacy's messed up code
Who knows what problems that would cause

broken monolith
dense wagon
#

why deino specifically

broken monolith
#

t-rex should too

solid wedge
#

cause modern day croc cant really chew so they swallow very large portions of pry

dense wagon
#

a large portion of carnivores have that kind of jaw power

solid wedge
broken monolith
#

I feel multiple of them should do it

#

any apexes

dense wagon
#

deino head is not larger

broken monolith
#

it is a big head tho

dense wagon
#

longer maybe

#

larger, no
they are on the same scale

broken monolith
#

that's why I say all apexes cause of their massiveness

dense wagon
#

actually, not even

#

largest found rex skulls were 5 feet long

#

longer than deino by a bit

solid wedge
broken monolith
solid wedge
#

yeah

#

Deino est skull size is around 5.5-6ft in length

#

of the largest specimen they have

#

a normal deino was around 4.5-5 ft

twin burrow
broken monolith
#

the idea that gators can be over 20 ft even today really shows how little they have changed

solid wedge
#

Well evolution made them right

barren zephyr
#

They've changed so little because they're suited to their niches

#

Though Crocodilians and their kin have had far more variable forms in the past

#

Planocraniidae is an extinct family of basal crocodylians known from the Paleogene of Asia, Europe and North America. The family was coined by Li in 1976, and contains two genera, Boverisuchus and Planocrania. Planocraniids were highly specialized crocodylians that were adapted to living on land. They have extensive body armor, long legs, and bl...

#

These are the "hoofed crocs" (which include terrestrials predators such as Boverisuchus).

#

Similarly, in Australia, there was a subfamily of crocodiles (mekosuchinae), which also had members adapted for terrestrial hunting.

azure wadi
#

I really like that cerato idea and it’d make it even more similar to modern scavengers and just add to the fact that this thing doesn’t care what it eats or how it eats

barren zephyr
#

Yes

#

I mean, realistically utahs should have all the face and part of the neck with blood, it looks like they ate a body with fork and knife

#

Every carnivore

azure wadi
#

True, but it does leave a space open for cerato to get a bit more personality into its behavior and design

barren zephyr
#

Yes

#

Thats the reason why i out only cerato and not every carni

#

*put

glossy garden
#

@azure wadi I think that adding vehicles and making them actually drivable would remove the super hardcore survival aspect of the game. Idk what I'm trying to say lmao but I think they shouldn't make the cars drivable because it would make it easier for the human to survive, idk. I just like the idea of being super natural and they just go on foot and have little villages. Like what they did back in the really olden days :p

barren zephyr
#

You can make them hard to repair

#

or to find

#

A car doesnt make sounds when the engine is off

glossy garden
#

True, and when they start the car it would draw a lot of dinos to you

#

Yeah

barren zephyr
#

you are trying to find a jeep in the middle of the jungle

#

and the car is broken

#

and surely it has no fuel

glossy garden
#

mhm, but how would u find gas?

barren zephyr
#

In buildings?

azure wadi
#

Old buildings

#

Also the map will become almost impossible to traverse as a person because of its size and without a vehicle it would greatly limit your range of exploration

barren zephyr
#

yes

#

and it isnt funny to dont have cars to run over dinos and humans

azure wadi
#

There’s a lot of stuff that can be done to balance cars and still make them fun and useful without being too difficult to counter

glossy garden
barren zephyr
#

I would like to have a truck to run down rival mercs and tribals

#

The game will become a gta or a far cry then TI_LUL

glossy garden
#

Lmaooo

barren zephyr
#

Far Cry: Isle Edition

#

GTA VII

glossy garden
#

If they do add cars they should make them slow, so they aren't too easy to escape dinos with and they are just the amount of speed to save energy and explore in. They should make it around 20-35MPH depending on what car it is.

barren zephyr
#

nah

#

cars dont turn really well

#

and they skid a lot when turning or braking

#

theyre basically quadrupedal legacy carnos

#

Dinos can escape through the jungle

#

A car is only fast with a road

glossy garden
#

Well yeah but that depends on what car you have as well. If you have a truck for instance then yeah it's a truck and ofc it'll take a while the make a turn, but if you have a golf cart then it won't take as much time to make a turn.

#

Yeah true

#

But if you have a motorcycle it's more efficient in the jungle

barren zephyr
#

But you are exposed to every attack

#

and a motorcycle weights... maybe 200kg? Its a big dryo

glossy garden
# barren zephyr A car is only fast with a road

Exactly which is why I think they shouldn't add cars :P it's just a waste of energy, but I think instead of cars they should add bikes, it makes you faster but also takes energy, it doesn't make it too easy to escape dinos and it also let's you go faster

barren zephyr
#

If you dont like cars then suggest monowheels TI_Troll

glossy garden
#

LMAO

#

Y e s

barren zephyr
#

They dont need fuel and theyre maneuverable

#

You can even use a gun riding them

glossy garden
#

But you see with a bike you could easy jump off if you're in a dangerous situation and climb a tree, easy.

barren zephyr
#

Some people likes cars

glossy garden
#

Lmao imagine if they made dinos ride bikes

#

I-

paper geyser
#

Allo axe attack is cringe

#

But flesh grazing might work if it’s only possible on large sauropods

azure wadi
#

^

barren zephyr
paper geyser
#

Precisely why it is ultimate cringe

azure wadi
#

Same reason why featherlous Utah is cringe

safe galleon
#

Science has never stopped isle before TI_Troll

paper geyser
#

well it is now

barren zephyr
barren zephyr
azure wadi
barren zephyr
lofty pagoda
#

no

barren zephyr
#

no

azure wadi
#

no

barren zephyr
#

god

lofty pagoda
#

but muh realistic dino rp game nooo:no:

azure wadi
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no.

barren zephyr
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I am not asking for a realistic dinosaur rpg btw

analog ingot
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so guys... crops am I right? Crops are important, for food.
So how about let mercs farm and have small dinos able to destroy crops but as a risky thing, but the reward is there for your diet. ✨

barren zephyr
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The emu war begins again, but with time with dryos

analog ingot
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hah yes

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I'll begin on a suggestion for it, but for later prehaps when we know more about mercs

barren zephyr
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Well why not have it that tribals can tame (or at least have some forms of positive relationships) with various dinosaurs (e.g. tenos, velos and dryos)

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Some of the ones not so prone to trying to eat you or just beat the everliving daylights out of you.

analog ingot
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I think tribals is supposed to be some wild orcs ''monsters'' not the tribals like ARK or other games lol

barren zephyr
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Yes, having players taming other players sounds very odd.

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BUT due to a lack of proper communication between humans and dinosaurs, it takes corporation through in-game signals (e.g. calls n so forth). Name tags aren't necessarily visible between humans and dinosaurs either.

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And attempting to gain trust with carnivorous dinosaurs the size of Utahraptor and upwards isn't very wise (for obvious reasons).

barren zephyr
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I don't get why they thought making such a comically huge map would be a good idea. Imagine all the optimization needed, and the fact that it may be really big for players to download.

keen minnow
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Will i be able to play the game with these specs?
OS: Windows 10 pro 64 bit
Processor: Intel Core i5 - 825OU @1.60 GHz 1.80 ghz
Memory: 16GB RAM
Graphics: Intel UHD Graphics 620
DirectX: Version 12
Network : Broadband
Storage: 865 GB
Thank you in advance

barren zephyr
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Oh god.

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1.60 GHZ... yikessss.

paper geyser
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I'm sure you'll be able to play it but, I doubt it'll run very well

barren zephyr
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You can TRY to run it but those specs are not good chief.

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Especially with such a low end cpu.

paper geyser
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yep, I'd wait until you have better specs or at least until the game is better optimised

barren zephyr
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They'll never cater to low end PCs, to my knowledge at least. If you wanna run the game at a stable at least 30 frames then you'll need a much better CPU and GPU.

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I have an rtx 2070 and still run the game like shit, but that's not on the GPUs end.

keen minnow
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Ohh thanks anyway

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Do you have any idea how to improve them ?

azure wadi
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That new austro ability looks great TI_Troll

barren zephyr
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Just upgrade your specs.

keen minnow
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How?

barren zephyr
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Well first of all.. do you have a laptop or pc?

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You can't exactly upgrade a laptop.

barren zephyr
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@zenith onyx it's obvious that therizinosaurs fed from trees, since they are upright and have long necks

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It's skeletal anatomy already shows an animal that is a leaf eater

worn pumice
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isnt theri like twice the size of magy

barren zephyr
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Lol magy is a fucking pebble

barren zephyr
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Might just be me but idk.

keen minnow
barren zephyr
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Look into getting a better laptop if you want to play higher end games.

keen minnow
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Oh ok , thanks anyway

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So no chance of playing the game? šŸ˜”

compact hare
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Probably not TI_Succ

zenith onyx
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Wanted to make it clear to everyone else @barren zephyr. Not everybody is a dino nerd like us lol

strange wave
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kal, this discord is entirely dino nerds

barren zephyr
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@plucky ridge the feathers won't help them glide.

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Because the surface area of the feathers is not enough to slow down the fall

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And deinonychus couldn't glide irl

plucky ridge
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I’m not saying all feather dinos. Just ones that make sense

barren zephyr
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The only feathered dinosaurs it would make sense for are microraptor and it's close relatives, as well as protobirds like archaopteryx

plucky ridge
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Tbh I wasn’t sure if deinonychus could

barren zephyr
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ARK has a gliding deinonychyus, but that has no legitimate scientific proof

plucky ridge
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Ya but we don’t have scientific proof that hypsil could spit stomach content or that troodon or Dilo were venomous. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø this is a game and not Reality simulator. 

civic sparrow
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Well, the isle isn’t completely scientifically accurate either so if they wanted to make deinonychus glide they could

verbal scarab
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Is deinonychus planned?

civic sparrow
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I think? Not sure

barren zephyr
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The wing surface on the forelimbs is not big enough, nor has deinonychus got large leg feathers either

outer condor
verbal scarab
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yeah, Utah clone

civic sparrow
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More like velo clone

barren zephyr
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Hypsilophodon could maybe have had the ability to spit stomach contents, but it's not likely to have been true

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Troodon may have had venom, but it also wasn't likely either

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But it is fact that deinonychus could not glide or fly

civic sparrow
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But again, the isle isn’t completely scientifically accurate.

barren zephyr
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use common sense

plucky ridge
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Just a suggestion for a game not a Reality simulatorļæ¼

civic sparrow
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Are u getting mad fella

barren zephyr
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they could just give deinon big wings and made it's body small if they wanted it to fly

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but it probably shouldn't fly as a whole

barren zephyr
civic sparrow
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It doesn’t even matter since deinon isn’t even being added

barren zephyr
civic sparrow
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Giggle was using deinon as an example since it’s one of the many small feathered dinosaurs

white spruce
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how are hypsi's calls robotic?