#general-feedback-discussion
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Well, Elders aren't on any one place on the Trello, so tying them (diets and perks) together based on it's shared use of the Dietary system and Perks is rather odd.
That wasn't the only point I made, but ok
I didn't mention your other points because they are good.
Elders are still tied to perks regardless of when they're added though, and I admit that I doubt they'll be adding elders prior to perks being added simply because shmeemeemee won't have a purpose until perks are a thing.
Upvoting your own suggestion 
yes stinky feet mechanic
A dinosaur that just shits itself constantly and its tracks are just a trail of shit and thats why
"Someone who specializes in optimization" you mean a coder?
It would be awesome if your dino has to take a š© from time to time, and likewise other dinos can pick up the smell and use it as another way of tracking š
no
no
no
big no
it would be awesome if you didnt post a š© suggestion everytime you think you have a good š© idea š
what's wrong with childishly laughing over poo
you surely must have that inner 5 year old of yours
@languid crown I don't understand
instead of poop I posted emoticon
What is wrong with that? It was suggestion nothing esle
else*
You can like it or dislike it, why the hatred?
Animals do poop right...and they can be traced with the smell
R cancels hypsis bile shot

to lonized's suggestion babies can really do nothing when adult pounces them
so...why
poop
uh oh

lmao
cool
you ever heard of footprints?
Yes, but poop is another means animals detect other animals
oh god not the shit discussion again
Footprints are a visual indicator, and considering dinosaurs have very good colour vision, it's not too hard for an animal to track via footprints
But tracking via scent can be efficient for those with strong senses of smell, such as Tyrannosaurs, Allosaurs (including acros and gigas), and Dromaeosaurs.
N O
and footprints are not a direct cause for a scent trail, but scent is caused primarily by secretions from the animal (typically hormones)
you forget this is a videogame where we smell the footprints
I am aware that you smell footprints.
BUT because I am not a player, though I plan on getting this game, I am spitting technical facts regardless of ingame mechanics.
Iām sure Bryan would be thrilled to have to animate 60 dino pooping animations... /s
Itās completely unneeded for the game
Well true
But why does sniffing footprints have to the only means of detecting other animals
i just think defecation isn't needed
I mean scent irl is passively let out by animals
we already have footprints and blood
smelling shit doesn't seem like something that would help all that much
yeah shit is a bit useless tbh
So irl, predators that track prey via scent mostly rely on the wind, though the direction where the wind is blowing is critical, as is the distance of the scent trail.
Would make it very hard for the more useless part of the roster to survive
But the sense of smell in various animals depends a lot
Most carnivorous dinosaurs had very good senses of smell AND eyesight
T. rex maximum sight range extended 6 kilometers (for humans it's only 1.6 km)
And realism doesnāt always make good gameplay. If it was realistic half the roster would be useless
sight (outside of nv) is also very very hard to portray in a game without causing major accessibility issues or outright making the animal unfun
well you're playing from a 3rd person perspective and not a 1st person one, so 1st person sight doesn't matter too much
what does people think about the backleg kick on Trike?
Think that should be saved more for animals like para and shant. Trikes entire thing is overwhelming frontal power
It doesnāt even have the build to get its back legs into the right location
I agree that Hadrosaurs should have a kick to, but I think it would change a bit how Trike would fight. It would also be better when fighting 2 Rexes.
or maybe if something like a raptor keeps on following it and biting at it's legs and it just kicks it
bam ded
No way would a trikes kick effect a rex at all.
I do think it would
Imagine a kick to the leg from a 8 ton animal
Rex would fall over
100%
It's a damn powerful kick
Giving trike a powerful rear attack completely defeats the point of stego and anky
no
I know it's not an Elephant
Stego rear attack doesnāt knock carno over. And you want trike to smash rex to the ground with a single rear kick
Thatās just wanting trike to not have a weakness
That Stego doesn't knock Carno over when hitting it directly to the body is something they have to work with.
It shouldn't be able to spam kick
it would take alot of stamina and they could maybe have a cooldown on it like with Carnos charge
Itās legit the worst built animal apart from anky for kicking
I mean
unless kick does almost nothing apart from cc
as I said above
you could have a cooldown and it would only be usable if really needed because it would take alot of stamina
yea
like those legs look long enough to kick
and if it could run fast I think it will kick too if it wanted to
s p e e d
the legs on that toy are much longer than irl
Maybe a single legged kick, but not like a horse buck type kick (like Tenos)
trike kicking seems a lil strange tbh
instead if u want just give it a stomp
for smaller creatures it cant get with its horns
the whole idea of ceratopsians is the powerful frontal stuff they got their weak spot is the back
It just seems so easy for like 3 Utahās to take one down
Itād be easy to connect a pounce
i mean utahs can kill a stego much easier too
takes 4 pounces on a stego which isnt that hard tbh
i think its not the trike
but rather the poorly made pounce system
pounce should be more strategic and it should make u use ur brain instead of clicking a button and animal dies
The idea of an animal which has its entire focus on frontal power, having a rear kick which one shots a rex to the ground is absurd.
Also the legs on that model are much longer than the in game one.
And if the rear kick is super powerful and knocks a rex down in one hit, what do you want of the frontal attack? just one hit death?
pounce being more strategic will seperate the people who play smart and the ones who just run in
Wait who said anything about it 1 shotting a Rex 
But yeah pounce should take way more strategy
Huh?
on a suggestion
Someone said that 
Edit: I got the idea because I've seen videos of Elephants kicking with their backleg and Trike is about the same size.
Oh lmfaoo
what
so a triceratops kicking?
it can't bear weight on two legs at all, or at least it can't do so for a long time period
I think they meant a one legged kick
Triceratops is such a bloody big animal
i mean it already has horns and that big beefy body
But yeah seems kinda weird
it could do a charge like a rhinoceros though
running over stuff with it's weight
i mean it could maybe even topple over a rex
Iām just wonder how on earth itāll defend itself from Utah packs
but it's not especially fast at all
Itād be so easy for like 2 Utahās to kill by just taking turns pouncing itās backside
Cause it canāt face both at once
From what I can gather triceratops is comparable to an elephant, though an elephant is taller cuase trike is so stout. No way that it could be doing any kicking with its weight and a one legged kick probably wouldn't have enough strength to take on much.
I'd agree to it just running stuff over with weight like soup forty said.
I imagine they would stay close to trees so they can scrape the utahs off or ram them into the tree if they get jumped
They said one kick from a trike should knock a rex to the ground.
a kick is too little to knock over
though trying to push over the attacker would be a lot more reasonable
though not possible due to a lack of true physics and whatnot
@civic sparrow that'd be so cool to see
i'd love to have areas to hide underwater
same!
@barren zephyr spino wonāt swim, it will walk through the water like a hippo
Yes
I mean it'll also clearly swim
If youāre referring to texture settings, it was stated in the recent patch notes that you cannot change them at this time.
damn I havent been hit with that bug yet
here i got it, i quote you and everything
š
@hazy plover not cheating, a feature of a dynamic ecosystem
just like hypsis helping stegos take down carnos and utahs, it's part of the game and makes the environment feel more alive
I feel like irl they probably do something similar so they might be feed
yeah its not uncommon for scavengers to lead predators to prey or follow predators themselves
they're smart enough to know that they'll get the scraps
There is really no need to make ptera even more unattainable since it is the only flyer for a long time. Free vertical takeoff does also make the whole "running start" mechanic nearly useless. Overwhelming majority of players will prefer to look at this animation twice and forget it is even in the game.
Also, as I remember, vertical takeoff is already a thing being added for jumping from cliffs @zenith onyx
Hey, it can still be implimented
There are always players who will use either or
And if u actually watched the dev streams you'd understand what the Running start is for. Its basically meant to build up tons of speed for long flight
the short jump into the air would just be to escape a predator
isnt a short take off for petra already being implemented? i thought i read about it in the dev blog or something
The takeoffs work better now as well. Starting your flight from running is free, but it only lifts you up a little. Taking off from standing still takes you much higher quickly, but youāll feel its impact on your stamina so itās best suited for situations where you need to get away quickly. @zenith onyx this is directly from the dev blog
no need to jump off a mountain either from the sounds of it
@polar anchor that is the entire reason why there is evrima
They literally cannot update legacy
well they tried doing it
legacy got fucked even more
i'm asking to take the update back
not try to fix the game
cuz as said, i know the code is broken
it was fine before weirdly enough
and its failed multiple times before
Legacy didnt have this bad TP and hitbox issues before
with bugs remaining, and even getting worse when they revert
also since the update ppl seem to not be able to log in and shit like that
for me its just TPing and hitboxes, but for some people they literally can not join the game
imagine paying for a game that you cant even play
well that's legacy
and steam only refunds if youve played under 2 hours and had the game for less than 2 weeks
@barren zephyr me and akuma are having a discussion about literally the same thing
That rex ribs poofing
Fucked us up
yes
but they cannot fix it
othersie everythign else breaks
that is the literal reason evrima exists
can they even simply switch it back to an older version?
how
I'll say it again, they literally cannot
tentacle just keeps coming up with good ideas
@barren zephyr why
if they do ANYTHING at all
the entire fucking game breaks
How the hell did that even happen
Well
Id rather have chinese hacking hypos
Than not being able to literslly wall
Wall
Walk
that could also be the server you're playing on, what server you on?
Nycta 3
not really, legacy is abandoned and tbf its a miracle they even touched it
nycta servers are always ass
also depends on when the server restarted
Even a minute after restart
not a miracle. absolute opposite
Lag is still same
try another server
a pretty big miracle, Am went out of his way to fix legacy and then fix it some more when the fix needed fixing
and people were ungrateful
If the hackers didnt touch legacy they didnt need to break it :p
waste of money
legacy isn't worth spending time on when they're actively working on a new game
nah the devs shouldn't have touched it. I feel sorry for them\
Still
It will take so much more time
There is no still, it's not worth the cost
Till Evrima comes near Legacy
if it was they'd have probably have done it already
U gotta understand
All evrima players come from legacy
And while evrima is fun and all
Its a baby game
I understand the majority of people play legacy but there isn't much to be done about it, the code is fucked and Am did the best he could for the time being
what
baby game?
... how
do you mean new?
Evrima as a base game is already way better than Legacy my guy
and you gotta understand that they CAN. NOT. UPDATE IT
This +++
what this guy said
and it's only been 6 months, they're working exceptionally hard
Baby meaning
give evrima some time and more dinos will come and people will forget about legacy
Its not fully fletched
fledged
Evrima will take a while
i get what you mean, but spending time and money on legacy is not the way to go
Quite a while actually
yes but they CANNOT UPDATE THE GAME
evrima will have apexes and mercenaries next year if everything goes according to plan, that isn't long at all
not long enough to warrant an entirely new team member to take care of a dead branch
the only thing that took long was to fix the hardcore lag and teleporting, now thats fixed dinos should come as planned
how would you get a new dev to care for broken code?
You want to put all that bullshit trying to mess with spaghetti code on one person? it would take the entire dev team to go anywhere, likely not a good direction, WHICH IS THE ENTIRE FUCKING REASON THEY MADE EVRIMA
With money and time, which aren't something they have lying around I'd assume
ok, and?
that would take SOOOO much time that would be put better in evrima
*reading 
yes and its been out for 6 months and it's already better than legacy, please at least try to understand
games take time
They do
much time
yandere sim 
XD
which you have, legacy
its playable
they can't and won't spend money and time on a dead branch just so you can then complain more about how long evrima is taking.
the 3 year wait is a but much, but come on WHY IN GOD'S NAME DO YOU WANT THEM TO BREAK LEGACY FURTHER
oh wait I replied to the wrong guy
Well
They could also revert
Versions
Couldnt they
"i need something playable" legacy is playable, go play it
and bring back hypos
I mean
so hackers can abuse that again
Whats the big issue in that really
bring back hypers and countless hacks, great idea
Thereās a server that literally found a way to play hypos again
U dont keep old versions?
The code is fucked, are you even reading
THEY LITERALLY CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT BREAKING IT
let me explain
I am
reverting has in the past broken teh game further
But it became even more fucked
After this patch
The code, is fucked, it is spaghetti. Nobody can do anything without breaking it more. So stop asking for it to be fixed as if it can, because it cannot.
the issue is that they will get money for assests made by the devs that are unfinished and not meant to be used and profit on it. i bet you would be annoyed if someone touched a game you made and started making money for stuff you made
AND IT'LL GET EVEN MORE FUCKED IF THEY ANYTHING MORE
Not to mention it's 100% illegal.
yep
theri was bought
Calm down.
This is giving me flashbacks of the "all odd numbers have an 'e' in it" thing
They did so much work but as I've detailed above, the code is unusable. Hence why they're creating it again from the ground up. Just be patient
They did make progress on those dinos BUT hypos were their dinos, any dino that wasnt finished they still let you play
I'm fine if you want to prove a point but don't provoke negative reactions.
At the end of the day enjoy the game, if you hate how legacy is now wait for is successor to flourish and youll be surprised :)
Meanwhile u got so many strains
Its just the way they go about it that confuses me
Hypos were out for years
What part are you failing to understand
Mate
Tbh if they could fix the code dont you think the first thing to fix would be the broken hitboxes
Yes mate, you code a bunch and realise it's too broken to go on and then scrap it
why
I doubt they were happy about having to remake the game, but that's what's happening now
not to mention its free to current isle owners
it should be free
They way they make u redownload it tho
t h e y c a n t f i x a n y t h i n g
Yeah, they could be charging people for evrima but they're not
They couldve gone for "Isle 2" and got money again :p
oh my fucking god dude, you have to be trolling at this point
V3 players when they they 
yeah they could of but it would be hella wrong
Im talking about the download thing
exactly
If it could've been done, it would've been done already. Trust me you don't know better than they do
Why do u have to switch versions all the time
idk
\steam I guess
I mean
Pubg did it
Dondi wit the 10k twitch donations
With their experimental servers
you can get both branches at the same time too
How?

wait wat
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Does he copy the folder?
Who would want to play legacy tho
wait wat
you just rename one branch and then download the other
Because evrima is still nothing

How so?
evrima is far better than legacy in base terms, stop trashing it just because you don't like it
Evrima is literally the best the isle has ever been
Its still just too early for me
W H E E Z E wait. You serious?
Awesome, doesn't mean you need to shit on it
Couldnt say it better
All evrima players got high iq

what server is that
Never said evrima is bad its just too early for it to actually switch legacy
Does any1 server in evrima even have rules
I've seen nothing but dopey carnos all day long
Beside chat
yep, unofficial servers

Have you even played evrima lol
nah evrima already better as a game, but yea a lot of servers don't have rules yet
One of the main setbacks
who needs rules when the game limits you š
Im not really into getting spawn killed
Or getting 2017 vines
Vibes
With mega packs
Just go to a dead zone
what
southeast spawn
center spawn gang š„µ
ai everywhere and no players
Still tho u could just run into some mixpack mega gang
tbh you dont even need rules, only 2 rules you need is mixpacking and overpakcing
And die like that
based
where we dropping boys, am I right?
Airport
green
is this reference to gay 
you want it dull?
bro U play legacy with bright af dinos and stuff
if i was in a forest id expect it to be colourful
Almost said I played legacy š„µ
yeah legacy forests are really dull and desaturated
Never ever
If I was playing with birds of paradise dinos I'd expect colorful

Idk im prolly to used to legacy but sometimes dull is nice
you cant hide either, i think theres a few places in legacy where you can hide but most of the time its open
wasnt here for that
but i do remember carnivore dryo xD
Majority of the server sits in GF
it wont, it will be better
nah there will be punishment for afk grows and stuff like that
There will be droughts and floods
^
there was gonna be
I heard somewhere I think
60% of progression map was opem
Open
i love in evrima you can literally hide and avoid things if you're smart. feels good to lose that one guy on your arse
^
evrima has amazing foliage that actually makes forests useful and its great
Do you guys agree with my suggestion?
evrima also has far more interactive combat, running away is interesting, running away actually takes skill and is intersting
yep i love it
I think it'd be nice
yay
same lol
I wonder how the game would be if they had collision
with the broken hitboxes? unplayable
xD
i wonder if broken hitboxes were fixed would that cause an uproar, adding to that would players not play non alt
alt turn is bad, i like turn evrima
Yet another reason evrima is better
Not to fucking dance around
I once went on a DM server
And left 2 mins after
Cuz of alt turning rexed n pues
not much skill imo
1 wrong move
legacy is not very skill based, if you pick a dinosaur your skill is decided for you
And u get into a rexes left hitbox ur doomed
Lol why
why would it?
thats the point of apex?
whats the sacrifice?
yeah
i dont want to compare sandbox dinos as they werent finished
Take the mid tiers then
For example
Carno
garbo turn radius, for rex, ridiculously slow for spino, shitty hp for giga, and loses to literally ducking everything, for acro
wait I censored fuck without meaning to
Giga needs more HP
Imo
giga is the most speedy and slender of the apexes
Rex has 700 more HP than its weight
deals the most bleed
Giga will still lose most of time tho
giga can choose its fight with apexes
Even if u are good giga
And u fight a spoon
U will most likely lose
giga should be a speed demon(for an apex), have the best stam(for an apex), and deal the best bleed out of all apexes
U see thing is
Theres bleed caps
So 50 bleed isnt as amazing as it sounds
just remember, you dont need to fight everything you see, in a survival you wouldnt fight a rex or giga unless you are sure youd win
an agile hunter that relies on surprise and continuous pressure on its target
Well
Dragonz
Id fight every giga
As rex or spoon
And many other will say so too
i know they will and thats whats wrong with legacy, its less about survival and more about what to find and fight
you need to worry for your life in survival, if i saw an apex as an apex i would leave as that would be risky
you also don't grow an apex to pick fights with other apexes
That's my point, you grow for whatever you want
Target apexes
tiers š¤¢
Instead of smaller creatures
ideally an apex will be killing mid tiers because they are its prey, apexes are too much of a danger to be worth the risk
Thats realistically
strains hunt apexes
this
Apexes to bully mid tiers
yes
And have a apex fiesta
Smaller creatures are faster and can get away, whatās the prob?
apex should be hard af to get and rewarding when done but they should be rare to see
Without strains
without strains great, you have nothing to worry about
elder then die
you can try to hunt an apex as an apex, but it will be hard and likely not worth the pain
That's fine, but the game won't be tailored that way
its high risk high reward hutning an apex
but then you sit there for 10 mins healing and more depending on body down servers
Killing 5 allos quickly is a much better tradeoff than killing one apex then healing for half an hour
all the while being on the lookout for mid tiers trying to abuse you
body down ruins the game for me, its needed in legacy sometimes cause of poor balancing
Body down is greatest thing ever imo
id like to run kill and eat then go off again
I don't like body down rules or any rules at all imo, if I wanna hunt imma hunt
in evrima*
just find a server with it
Killing everyone
you can have them in unofficial servers
Thate why im waiting till evrima is actually ripe
I feel like thereās a reason why unofficial servers always have more players
For anythin with rules
and there's a reason why official servers aren't dead
nycta has a server on evrima with rules i think
How many players do officials even have nowadays
50 compared 100+
Just chat rules@DRAGONZz#6660
100+ isn't intended
50 players
it fucks with the game, said so by QA
Official legacy can hold more
because legacy is fucked and old
Oh nope
Legacy is laggy af
Over 100
At 200
Its just chaos
At GF
Especially
if you go higher then the offical cap it will cause problems for the game, thats why bug reports dont get accepted if you play unofficical
that makes a lot of sense actually
The official servers are over 75 is my point
for legacy
they are 75
But then again
oh
for legacy yeah
There is a reason why it's 75 on Evrima but not on legacy
Yeah I get evrima is diff
I havenāt seen the official servers on it so I wouldnāt know the limit or anything like that
it's 75, anything higher is problematic, like dragon said
Officials suck ass
Just wait till
and overpacking
I though having 130 players was good but it causes a bunch of issues and tbh there is way too much player interaction, like i was in a pack of 20 utahs
But then again
75 to 130 is a big jump
i cant wait for more dinos get more variety
what dragon said
Do you know why sucho was taken out?
w're getting 2 more next month ty devs ā¤ļø
im excited for more dinos because they're all just so unique
no idea mate
Tbh
compared to legacy where it's all different models and different stats, evrima actually has unique abilities and playstyles
whos pumped for deino :p
Sucho wasnt reslly an knteredting dino
Ah yes
unironically
Wait till spoons are in evrima
deino with baby lazors will make me die of cuteness
Sun bathe for hours
i really hope baby deinos have pew pew sounds
i'll drown myself every time i become sub adult just to keep hearing pew pew
lol
Deino will be an apex right
yes
no
i think dondi said that?
Ptera will be mid tier?
It was stated that itās not
no idea
for the time being i believe it will, not sure about overall (deino)
ah ok
Hellll no, ptera is smaller than dryo
I see why they took out sucho
From what ive seen
Ptera aint that small
As a dryo
Atleast in legacy
It wasnt
dryo is as big as an utah in evrima
There was no ptera in legacy
It wss
No
During hypo events
omfg
That was a quetz
Was it?
Not a ptera
oh boy
quetz was in legacy iirc
this dude 

Yes as a dev exclusive
i hope they bring back the titanboa
pretty sure deino hatchlings riding on adults or being carried by them is hard to do
yeah it would be but cool af
if they just make the baby lock onto the adult's head i think it'd be easier
but i know nothing about game dev so ignore me
Pouncing is a thing they might be able to do something similar
I played a roblox game
For the babies
yes like that
Called Dinosaur simulayor
It was pretty simple
Yet so cool
They even had a mechsnic
Where u can grab dinos
With ur jaw
i hope evrima does something like that with nesting
Dads when
-_-
All them single moms need to stop
Lmao
So that hatchlings get more skin variety
it would be cool
Yeah you will have to have both genders to best in evrima
I don't like that mechanic very much
Sure they go for realism in most mechanics but the nesting one I find a bit inconvenient.
Aerial variety pog
@civic sparrow how the fuck is that animal not hurt 
Wait which one lmao
In the whole vid the gator just crawled off and swam away
@verbal scarab why
because evrima wonāt stay in update 2 forever
and I think it would take time for devs to implement the trailer
and that time could be used for new playable s and mechanics
- it will for at least a month for a new update and they are kinda taking a break from development rn
- sieza stated that they will be making more trailers over the course of evrima's updating so it will still stay accurate to what is currently in the game
Yes but it will take time away from development
i wouldn't think it would take long at all, it's just replacing video files, is it not?
Idk man the devs do like 1 thing a day
and it would take some editing but not long compared to much else
eh, they are on vacation so
I personally like the fact you can see after death for a few seconds, add that "what would they do after me dying"
After a death in evrima I like to atleast see the player actually eat my corpse so that my death wasn't totally wasted.
Yes Seizas trailer was good.. but the hope trailer fits the game better and it's overall more appealing imo.
@brave rampart what do you mean the cougar niche?
Meaning it's stealthy, it runs down its prey, it can jump pretty high
Theres a lot more to it than what I've just stated
This is one of the facts
Mountain Lion Adaptations: They have short yet vigorousĀ clawsĀ to help them catch and crush the animal's neck. Their hindĀ legsĀ are longer then their frontĀ legsĀ to help them jump more then 18 feet from cliff to cliff. The only issue is that they can only sprint short distances to catch prey, not long ones.
It weighs 1600 kgs, if it jumped high it wound break its legs, and its plantigrade like us and bears, so a super jump isnāt an option
Take out the jump
Thatās why I said tiger, short distance ambush hunter that pins down and final bites itās prey
So presto should also be a good swimmer?
Compared to other land carnivores of its size maybe? Compared to aquatics hell no
Like teno in a sense, faster then most, but not super quick in water
Idk I just saw a chart that showed the facts about cougar, and that they use their claws a lot so I thought it was a good idea
Then again, thatās a cat, and prestoās claws are more like a crocs or a dogs, there, but more for traction and less grabbing prey
@solid wedge funny enough, this feature is already being added! it's in #phase-two-archive

@cinder plank I dont think thats possible
Coding the option for evrima into the legacy menu would mean messing with legacy's code again
And adding a whole set of code (all of evrima's code) and mixing and merging that into legacy's messed up code
Who knows what problems that would cause
@dense wagon then maybe my deinosuchus gore idea
#general-feedback message did anyone get back with this guy?
why deino specifically
t-rex should too
cause modern day croc cant really chew so they swallow very large portions of pry
a large portion of carnivores have that kind of jaw power
yes, but not on that scale a deino head is much larger

deino head is not larger
it is a big head tho
that's why I say all apexes cause of their massiveness
actually, not even
largest found rex skulls were 5 feet long
longer than deino by a bit
meg is cool too
yeah
Deino est skull size is around 5.5-6ft in length
of the largest specimen they have
a normal deino was around 4.5-5 ft
the idea that gators can be over 20 ft even today really shows how little they have changed
Well evolution made them right
They've changed so little because they're suited to their niches
Though Crocodilians and their kin have had far more variable forms in the past
Planocraniidae is an extinct family of basal crocodylians known from the Paleogene of Asia, Europe and North America. The family was coined by Li in 1976, and contains two genera, Boverisuchus and Planocrania. Planocraniids were highly specialized crocodylians that were adapted to living on land. They have extensive body armor, long legs, and bl...
These are the "hoofed crocs" (which include terrestrials predators such as Boverisuchus).
Similarly, in Australia, there was a subfamily of crocodiles (mekosuchinae), which also had members adapted for terrestrial hunting.
I really like that cerato idea and itād make it even more similar to modern scavengers and just add to the fact that this thing doesnāt care what it eats or how it eats
Yes
I mean, realistically utahs should have all the face and part of the neck with blood, it looks like they ate a body with fork and knife
Every carnivore
True, but it does leave a space open for cerato to get a bit more personality into its behavior and design
@azure wadi I think that adding vehicles and making them actually drivable would remove the super hardcore survival aspect of the game. Idk what I'm trying to say lmao but I think they shouldn't make the cars drivable because it would make it easier for the human to survive, idk. I just like the idea of being super natural and they just go on foot and have little villages. Like what they did back in the really olden days :p
You can make them hard to repair
or to find
A car doesnt make sounds when the engine is off
you are trying to find a jeep in the middle of the jungle
and the car is broken
and surely it has no fuel
mhm, but how would u find gas?
In buildings?
Old buildings
Also the map will become almost impossible to traverse as a person because of its size and without a vehicle it would greatly limit your range of exploration
Thereās a lot of stuff that can be done to balance cars and still make them fun and useful without being too difficult to counter
I guess. But isn't it supposed to be a hardcore survival game? That would make it easy to be a human. A car is as fast if not faster than an adult carno or utah
I would like to have a truck to run down rival mercs and tribals
The game will become a gta or a far cry then 
Lmaooo
If they do add cars they should make them slow, so they aren't too easy to escape dinos with and they are just the amount of speed to save energy and explore in. They should make it around 20-35MPH depending on what car it is.
nah
cars dont turn really well
and they skid a lot when turning or braking
theyre basically quadrupedal legacy carnos
Dinos can escape through the jungle
A car is only fast with a road
Well yeah but that depends on what car you have as well. If you have a truck for instance then yeah it's a truck and ofc it'll take a while the make a turn, but if you have a golf cart then it won't take as much time to make a turn.
Yeah true
But if you have a motorcycle it's more efficient in the jungle
But you are exposed to every attack
and a motorcycle weights... maybe 200kg? Its a big dryo
Exactly which is why I think they shouldn't add cars :P it's just a waste of energy, but I think instead of cars they should add bikes, it makes you faster but also takes energy, it doesn't make it too easy to escape dinos and it also let's you go faster
If you dont like cars then suggest monowheels 
But you see with a bike you could easy jump off if you're in a dangerous situation and climb a tree, easy.
Some people likes cars
Allo axe attack is cringe
But flesh grazing might work if itās only possible on large sauropods
^
It's even a scientifically disproven theory
Precisely why it is ultimate cringe
Same reason why featherlous Utah is cringe
Science has never stopped isle before 
well it is now
It should, however
No
No.
ok
no
no
no
god
but muh realistic dino rp game nooo:no:
no.
I am not asking for a realistic dinosaur rpg btw
so guys... crops am I right? Crops are important, for food.
So how about let mercs farm and have small dinos able to destroy crops but as a risky thing, but the reward is there for your diet. āØ
The emu war begins again, but with time with dryos
hah yes
I'll begin on a suggestion for it, but for later prehaps when we know more about mercs
Well why not have it that tribals can tame (or at least have some forms of positive relationships) with various dinosaurs (e.g. tenos, velos and dryos)
Some of the ones not so prone to trying to eat you or just beat the everliving daylights out of you.
I think tribals is supposed to be some wild orcs ''monsters'' not the tribals like ARK or other games lol
Yes, having players taming other players sounds very odd.
BUT due to a lack of proper communication between humans and dinosaurs, it takes corporation through in-game signals (e.g. calls n so forth). Name tags aren't necessarily visible between humans and dinosaurs either.
And attempting to gain trust with carnivorous dinosaurs the size of Utahraptor and upwards isn't very wise (for obvious reasons).
I don't get why they thought making such a comically huge map would be a good idea. Imagine all the optimization needed, and the fact that it may be really big for players to download.
Will i be able to play the game with these specs?
OS: Windows 10 pro 64 bit
Processor: Intel Core i5 - 825OU @1.60 GHz 1.80 ghz
Memory: 16GB RAM
Graphics: Intel UHD Graphics 620
DirectX: Version 12
Network : Broadband
Storage: 865 GB
Thank you in advance
I'm sure you'll be able to play it but, I doubt it'll run very well
You can TRY to run it but those specs are not good chief.
Especially with such a low end cpu.
yep, I'd wait until you have better specs or at least until the game is better optimised
They'll never cater to low end PCs, to my knowledge at least. If you wanna run the game at a stable at least 30 frames then you'll need a much better CPU and GPU.
I have an rtx 2070 and still run the game like shit, but that's not on the GPUs end.
That new austro ability looks great 
Just upgrade your specs.
How?
Well first of all.. do you have a laptop or pc?
You can't exactly upgrade a laptop.
@zenith onyx it's obvious that therizinosaurs fed from trees, since they are upright and have long necks
It's skeletal anatomy already shows an animal that is a leaf eater
isnt theri like twice the size of magy
Lol magy is a fucking pebble
Yes, and thus that makes it better as a treetop feeder
Anyone notice how deinos back legs look super weird?
Might just be me but idk.
A laptop
Look into getting a better laptop if you want to play higher end games.
Probably not 
Wanted to make it clear to everyone else @barren zephyr. Not everybody is a dino nerd like us lol
kal, this discord is entirely dino nerds
@plucky ridge the feathers won't help them glide.
Because the surface area of the feathers is not enough to slow down the fall
And deinonychus couldn't glide irl
Iām not saying all feather dinos. Just ones that make sense
The only feathered dinosaurs it would make sense for are microraptor and it's close relatives, as well as protobirds like archaopteryx
Tbh I wasnāt sure if deinonychus could
ARK has a gliding deinonychyus, but that has no legitimate scientific proof
Ya but we donāt have scientific proof that hypsil could spit stomach content or that troodon or Dilo were venomous. š¤·āāļø this is a game and not Reality simulator. 
Well, the isle isnāt completely scientifically accurate either so if they wanted to make deinonychus glide they could
Is deinonychus planned?
I think? Not sure
Yes, but the fact that deinonychus can't glide comes from biomechanics not found internal organs, or traces of them
The wing surface on the forelimbs is not big enough, nor has deinonychus got large leg feathers either
Nope
yeah, Utah clone
More like velo clone
Hypsilophodon could maybe have had the ability to spit stomach contents, but it's not likely to have been true
Troodon may have had venom, but it also wasn't likely either
But it is fact that deinonychus could not glide or fly
But again, the isle isnāt completely scientifically accurate.
Yes, but nontheless it's too big to glide
use common sense
Just a suggestion for a game not a Reality simulatorļæ¼
they could just give deinon big wings and made it's body small if they wanted it to fly
but it probably shouldn't fly as a whole
well why not have microraptor for that purpose
It doesnāt even matter since deinon isnāt even being added
this.
Yes it doesn't matter obviously
Giggle was using deinon as an example since itās one of the many small feathered dinosaurs
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how are hypsi's calls robotic?
