general-feedback-discussion

[signal geode]

Making 1v1 impossible for allo making 1v2 impossible for dible

[limber hull]

no?

[narrow cypress]

I mean in the future that could be worse , in the moment they fix the allos drift allos would have a little advantage

[limber hull]

when did i say it should be impossible for dibble to win a 2v1 against allos what

[signal geode]

They can facetank

[signal geode]

Did i miss smth what is wrong with allos drift?

[narrow cypress]

Works so so bad , have strange animations and is so inconsistent

[signal geode]

For me it is consistent but ive noticed that weird slide animation bug

But that weird animation bug is for some other dinos too

[narrow cypress]

Yeah and sometimes it doesn’t work properly you need so so low dpi mouse to played good

I mean for me : allos pounce should be a tool kill big guys , the need to nerf the bite and give more focus on the clawswipe

[signal geode]

Maybe i havent noticed it cause i slide differently than most players since i learned different slides with a broken keyboard

[signal geode]

I agree with this

[narrow cypress]

Yeah I learn to do the drift with allo because I have played a lot with Carno and you need to learn to rotate with the charge-drift , they are playables that you need to play with the keyboard

For example , Rex or cera you need to play with mouse , carno , allo with keyboard

[signal geode]

Same i play carno a lot

[narrow cypress]

Yeah I really loved carno , right now it is incredible

But it is not fair for the rest of the rooster

[signal geode]

New carno is fun but op In my opinion

[narrow cypress]

He is the apex for all below 1.8

[signal geode]

Yeh

And even More when its prime

Ive managed to kill adult/frail allos as carno

[narrow cypress]

True and is one of the only old 100% primes that can still living without problems

Running at 45 kmh is not a problem for it

[signal geode]

Yep it should get like stam drain to its headbutt makes no reason for allos claw swipe to take a lot of stam but carno can freely spam its heabutt

[narrow cypress]

Yeah the claws of the allo , needs to be finished dondi said that they will inprove the claws but they are literally the same as day 1

[signal geode]

Hopefuly we get good balance changes before new HT

[urban flax]

@barren zephyr What's the point

[latent olive]

clearly we need a competitor to deinosuchus that plays exactly the same with zero differences

[urban flax]

Not necessarily with zero differences
I remember someone once asked for Purrusaurus, which would be like deinosuchus, but larger and with higher biteforce and slightly higher speed

[barren zephyr]

I think it would be fun to have more crocs

That way there could be some rivlary and reason for either species to team up more often

[urban flax]

Just play more deino then (although it's already overpopulated)

[urban flax]

All I see it would do is that the best out of the 2 species is the only one that ever gets picked
Because there's only so much you can do to differentiate a croc from another croc

[barren zephyr]

Nuh uhhh

[signal geode]

I would rather get new unique dino instead of a deino clone

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message bro got stuck while being chased by a baby pachy 🥀

[junior nymph]

@rich plinth disable physics foliage in gamplay settings

[rich plinth]

my man
it sounds like it will work, so if it does im coming back to ask you what to do about the hackers lmao

that would actually explain why the frames dropped every time a player was nearby

[wintry cipher]

@ionic raven #general-feedback message

Rosteris locked and you need to add more than "add this"

[ionic raven]

Ok, thanks

[icy lion]

Report them

[rich plinth]

then the next one will show up

[icy lion]

The anticheat and other detection methods are constantly being worked on

[pliant elm]

Allo can facetank, mainly Prime Allo.
And Dibble won't be able to run down as long as the Allo player is Intelligent and he chooses his fights. Allo has the complete freedom to choose whether or not to fight Dibble, Dibble just has to accept whatever Allo wants

[signal geode]

allo cant face tank dible

[pliant elm]

If you're an solo allo, don't try to go against a Dibble, just run away. Dibble has to have the advantage over Allo

[signal geode]

so why is dibble buff needed then

[pliant elm]

He can do it. Prime Allo especially against an adult Dibble

[signal geode]

yeah if allo is prime then yes (and dible adult)

thats not allo or dible problem its an elder problem

[pliant elm]

That's not a problem. Allo Prime Elder is one of the most balanced Elders

The problem is with Dibble and his speed

[signal geode]

what do you mean it gets 1.1 ton of weight

[pliant elm]

But its speed decreases considerably

[signal geode]

at peak prime its 39

so not really

[pliant elm]

And yet it's faster than the adult Dibble

[signal geode]

yeh thats an elder problem

[pliant elm]

36km at 100%

[signal geode]

prime rex can easilly kill trike (adult) basicly same thing

same with cera and teno if cera is prime teno cant even stun

and peak prime cera is faster

[pliant elm]

Elder has always been a problem, but this is a problem that could be solved without much difficulty for Dibble, simply by giving him the speed he's always had

And the drift too

[signal geode]

and what would those even change against an allo

they could still facetank you

[pliant elm]

Against a 100% Allo Prime and a Rex, he would have a chance to escape

[prisma hare]

I'm a prime dilo.
I sent about 30 clones to a maia on flat ground, n bit it numerous times, are clones bugged cuz they did nothing

[signal geode]

30 clones is only 2250 dmg

maia has 5400 at prime

[prisma hare]

Interesting, let me calculate bites n figure out. Thanks for that. Didn't even look like the maia was phased by them at all

[signal geode]

allo would still be faster

[prisma hare]

Thx

[signal geode]

np

[narrow cypress]

muen be serius not so many allos survive until 100% all allos dies from rexes at 94/95 %

[narrow cypress]

https://medal.tv/es/games/the-isle/clips/m3DVpKQwBxJcV1k0T?invite=cr-MSxkZmMsNTM5OTAzMDY2&v=67

literally carno is the most fun playable right now

[signal geode]

facts

[narrow cypress]

i have recorded that today and i remember your comment xdd

[signal geode]

[narrow cypress]

poor allo everyone bullies him xdddd

[pliant elm]

that doesn't make the problem go away

[narrow cypress]

you are saying that agains 100% allos , when literally no allos survive at that age? lol

dibble should run 36.5 atleast to survive from rexes in my opinion

and rex should run at max of 35 kmh

[wintry whale]

@tranquil finch They’ve said they’re working on a map, it’s got redwoods

And the redwoods on gateway are almost certainly going in the dome

[tranquil finch]

hold on so they are working on a new map + still working on gateway?

so there will be 2 maps to play on?

[wintry whale]

Thats how it sounds

[tranquil finch]

hmmm ok any eta when the new map will come? like a couple of months, 1 year, 2 years, 3 years

[wintry whale]

No etas

[tranquil finch]

Ok

[wintry cipher]

@wintry whale oh heck thats a good one ive played that!

[unkempt comet]

@rich plinth try deleting your config folder, this usually helps. It is recommended to do this after every big update

[rich plinth]

ooh ill keep that in mind thank you

[wintry whale]

@unkempt comet More completed skeletons are planned eventually

[wind mesa]

@sonic island #general-feedback message the bees should be up high enough that they won't bother big dinos and should instead be a food source for herras, hypsis and pteras 👀 (either eating the bees or the honey)

i think as a big dinosaur it would be really annoying being harassed by bees for no reason

especially if you're in the middle of trying to ambush something

[sonic island]

eh you just walk away from the buzzing sound

if it's a lone beehive it's not hard to avoid

[sonic island]

In this regard, you'll always have to account for environmental factors

[wind mesa]

idk i just feel like i get annoyed enough already cus of the smol bushes that are like concrete and logs and things, random bees might be more annoying than immersive ^^'

[nova wasp]

Rex is suprisingly quiet while sneaking, also yes we had that tech, but with omni it was never that devestaqting. Omni could not pin a full grown dino which leads to insta death.

[nova wasp]

Also if you haven't played for a long time don't really talk, first get a look at the game's state right now

[blissful atlas]

#general-feedback message

if you look in the latest devblog, they are already addressing this.

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

i like the idea of this but
A: in no universe is an alberto, which is effectively just a smaller rex, fighting a 9 ton para
B: if it's 9-12 tons, it's not in the "sub-apex" area, it's in the same weight class as the apexes. Sure it wouldn't have the same weaponry and would likely lose a 1v1 to any apex, but still

[vale pawn]

im sure that 1tinydinosaur didnt meant for bees to be literally so common that they become annoying, just something that is out there in the map but you only ever interact with sparsely on rare occasions. and im sure these jungle bees wouldn't have as big as a range as sanctuary bees since theyre not guarding anything specific, prob just the tree their attached too.

[wind mesa]

no for sure i'm aware they're a rare thing but i'm just no certain how valuable they will be for ambiance vs just bee-ing annoying outside of sancs

[vale pawn]

even if you encounter one of these rogue beehives, whats it really gonna effect. if its in a spot thats just somewhere in the middle of nowhere you pass by whats it gonna do besides get your attention for 3 seconds

[hardy flame]

I think this will help prevent pins from making the game so one-sided, have the pin be less of a instant option

[delicate wadi]

#general-feedback message
This was originally planned for troodon, but for whatever reason it was scrapped/put on indefinite hold

[leaden pivot]

i keep on trying to get prime and 50/50 chance i get it, what are the ACTUAL requirements for prime

[junior nymph]

@summer stratus they plan to maeke a new map already

[summer stratus]

Thats good to hear since the map is getting old and all the new things getting added is just going to break it

[tired quest]

really wish they can polish current content before they test some new stuff

[silk perch]

What is the glass bones debuff??

[wooden agate]

x amount of fracture damage taken in a single life leads to a debuff called glass bones

its supposed to be x amount of fractures within a life time but it no work proper

[silk perch]

We asked for this when diet system was first implemented. And I mean FIRST implemented. They haven't taken any action on it ..

[silk perch]

Wtf

[wooden agate]

because its not a priority

[wooden agate]

its been in the game for years lol, plus when working as intended i doubt it will be as bad as it is now

[silk perch]

Yeah, neither is bug fixing 😂

[wooden agate]

bug fixes are literally their main priority right now lol

[limber hull]

if devs do bug fixes then why still bugs?

[silk perch]

The main bugs aren't getting fixed. I've played this game since evrima release and there are still consistent bugs that were present then (food on face, unable to drink, falling through map with pounces)

[limber hull]

smh it just doesn't add up

[silk perch]

5+ years on those and no fix is pretty crazy.

[limber hull]

10+ years???

all of those mechanics haven't existed for 10+ years

hell i dont even think drinking was added 10 years ago

[silk perch]

Apologies, ~6 years

Drinking was added in the previous version of the game, and was implemented when evrima came out also

Diet system and nesting (for evrima) were added later

[wooden agate]

also for the record, food on face has been fixed for a majority. there may be some niche cases that lead to it again, but thats where #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 comes in handy so they can narrow down every way the bug can occur

i have no issue with drinking but i have heard of it

falling through map via pounce is something ive only seen pop up again recently, and before that havent seen it for years. its not unlikely that the bug popped up again as they sometimes do lol

[tropic talon]

Why is there nothing about glass bones in high priority?

[junior nymph]

It’s bugged rn, it’s happening at a too high value or something so it’s happening too quickly, it’s known

[wooden agate]

not bugged, hypno just confirmed

just not in a very good state and will be adjusted

[small furnace]

@vagrant phoenix this wouldnt work, the only reason rex can fight stego is because it can stun the stego long to enought to not get hit by its tail, the hold rmb is wayy to slow to ever be usefull in a fight like that, maybe its possible with a duo or trio but even now most of the time if the stego jumps the rex the rex dies

not to mention trike, you would have to constnatly be running around the trike to avoid getting even body shot, go onto a deathmatch server and try only using crush when using ambush, it wont work with this current balance

[junior nymph]

Ah

[scarlet depot]

Wth are glass bones? nothing on quick guide and we all know the wiki is outdated

[little patrol]

@scarlet depot there was a dev in chat the other night explaining it

type glass in the search bar at the top right and you should be able to find the info

[vagrant phoenix]

You've made a point but Rex has this attack way too spammable, it's the only good attack and it has only like a 5 seconds cooldown. Plus Ambush speed cooldown is about 1 minute or more? In a fight that's way too long true. So instead of that, rex could have a longer cooldown on crush and additional more stamina cost, I can imagine rex getting tired from bashing his jaws against large prey with so much force. Like 10 seconds cooldown, 15% stam cost more or less

[quick halo]

This game has become dog... and a pinslop with broken dinos left and right. No balance and the only focus is "what dino should we implement next?!"
This is the worst state of the game for more then a year on almost every aspect of the game..

[icy lion]

@mossy marten What are you talking about?

[midnight heath]

#general-feedback message Comparing BoB to Isle is baffling, they're two very, very different games. If you liked BoB's mechanics and gameplay more than Isle, it seems you just didn't like the type of game the Isle is as much.

[limber hull]

ikr, playing BoB, saying it has "better gameplay and mechanics" is bizarre

it's different, not better lmao

[midnight heath]

It makes no sense, they're only alike in the sense that they both have dinosaurs that eat, drink and scuffle on occasion.

[mossy marten]

I asked in the NA thread about the US2 server being down still and when I went back to check if anyone responded the entire Evrima-NA thread was removed from my tab. So I posted that in the feedback tab. And when I came back to check again, the NA thread was back again. So someone must’ve undone whatever they had done. I’ve been trying to find information about the server but no one responds. & I’m not sure where the appropriate tab to ask is

[icy lion]

That's not something we can do. My guess is you have the Official Servers group collapsed, which hides channels that do not have new messages. Click the Official Servers group and you will always be able to see the channel, even if there are no unread messages

[mossy marten]

Oh, I could still see the EU, AU, SA, & Legacy servers, only NA was missing which is where I had asked the question. maybe it was a bug? It’s back now, but I apologize. Can you direct me somewhere I can try ask about this server information?

[limber hull]

you probably did collapse the category in that case then

[small furnace]

I’m fine with a longer cooldown, but already with 5% stamina cost there’s often fights where you finish with 20-40% stamina, I don’t think tripping the cost would work super well but definitely needs a higher cost in some way

[granite crest]

#general-feedback message
im a main croc, and even though this sounds good in theory its not, regardless, a bigger should be able to grab you, and crush you.. hey its a croc eat croc world out there, and if you dont wana get 1 tapped by a croc dont get to close to a threat.
now i do wish we had more food in the water or slower food drain so we didnt feel like we need to kill crocs for food as often as i do, but i hope it gets fixxed soon.

[shell lynx]

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[pliant elm]

#general-feedback message I knew some Rex players would start complaining about not being able to kill a Trike like they used to, hitting the crush in the head and fracturing trike leg xd

[pale river]

60-40% and now is 20-80% is crazy

[pliant elm]

What is this %?

Do you mean Rex and Trike % of winning?

[limber hull]

how it feels to discuss matchups in this game
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3G07NZs2v18?feature=share

[chrome quail]

You could literally say the same to stego as it can spam powerswing for 5% stam

[vagrant phoenix]

Oh I forgot all about stegos stam cost, that's on me.

[chrome quail]

this change makes 0 sense 15% stam cost to crush...

and how its spammable when its the only good thing in rex arsenal (besides rmb headbutt)

[vagrant phoenix]

It was set as an example, either way it can be fine tuned, if a rex ambushes something it should get the upper hand, like I said Stego takes 2 crushes to break, then it's game over, even worse for trikes since once a rex gets behind you you're done for

[chrome quail]

right now trike wins 60-40 which is nice

[vagrant phoenix]

Yeah I think the word I was looking for is that it gives rex no reason to use any other ability in its tool kit, it's basically the rex metta.

[vagrant phoenix]

Really? Are the new changes that big

[chrome quail]

i do get this ambush thing but rex is also basically a brawler so of course it will do great in 1v1s

[chrome quail]

yes but rex vs stego is 60/40 80/20 if the rex is insane

which is alr since stego can stun and escape from a rex

[vagrant phoenix]

I don't know about brawler, maybe in movies but every realistic Dino documentary would show you how careful these giants had to be with eachother, but I guess that applies for literally everything in this game lol

[chrome quail]

its kit literally makes it a decent brawler having headbutt and crush is the best combo for fighting stegos

i just dont see the point of nerfing rex crush to the bottom of the pits without giving it any compensation

if u make rex crush cost 15% stam and have a long cooldown surely you will buff its fracture dmg and normal dmg by quite a bit

they did quite the opposite with stego

[vagrant phoenix]

Oh yeah that's what you mean, well then it makes sense in my logic, maybe I was being over dramatic with my numbers but like a 10second cooldown 10% stam cost, it can make rex fights last longer and be more interesting. Rexes are forced to be more hidden, because get the first crush on a Stego in an ambush all you need is another ambush and Stego is done, additionally with how panicked the Stego may have been. Same can apply to trike

[vagrant phoenix]

Yeah that's what I mentioned in my feedback

Like buffing it's damage is enough since bone break is already crazy

[chrome quail]

ok but you need to think about the other factors about rex rn it has terrible bleed res and bad stam + making fights last longer is BAD for rex it isnt some long lasting endurance fighter rex is supposed to make fights end quickly Giga will be that endurance hunter not rex.

[limber hull]

so, that being said, doesn't a 15% stamcost kind of line up with that idea tho? poor endurance and wanting to end things fast?

that being said i think 15% is insane overkill but still

it was too much on stego and its too much on rex

[vagrant phoenix]

Oh i didnt know about those 2 factors, i normally assumed rexes bleed was being called bad because of stegos insane bleed cause

then theres allo clawswipe also being insane

and maybe raptors too (havent heard anything about it)

[limber hull]

rex bleed res is actually just... normal

it's just that normal bleed res is no bleed res

like a lot of people say it is especially weak to bleed, it isn't, it's about as weak to bleed as most of the roster is

[vagrant phoenix]

Yeah my assumtion was true then lol

"rex bleed res SUCKS" says the guy who took 5 stego swings to the face and has traumatic mutation to make up for it

[pliant elm]

I wouldn't call Stego Powerswing spammable, that's practically Stego's only attack. Rex at least has the bite, the crush, and the head swing

[chrome quail]

stego has 3 attacks running powerswing is alr but not as good as normal powerswing however rex headbutt takes too long to hit but crush is almost instant so ofc rex players will spam crush and stego players will often spam powerswing they are the best attacks in their arsenal. Rex headbutt is useless against trike but decent on stegos its just not worth hitting a headbutt since u can literally get stunned since it takes too long to hit

[raw hedge]

It is spammy tho, it has like a second cooldown. Does alot of dmg and bleed etc plus cc.

It has a lot of openings for smaller creatures, but it’s definitely a super strong part of the kit

The normal swing is more of a last resort

[pale river]

Ya mb that’s what he said

[urban flax]

@tribal girder The very essence of a bug is that you can't estimate a fix time for it

[wanton tangle]

is cerato throwup broken now?

[desert arch]

@gentle lichen Ill show you something SO MUCH WORSE

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102619485334143006/1447287895139422318/image.png?ex=69877ee3&is=69862d63&hm=682c3a3e2fc07c061f3bb6b1ee06f3ede58eddbe5ac883b180d3119cb0f73bb4&

Enter the clown cera, made by @vivid mason

[gentle lichen]

oh my gosh what is this xDD

but honestly think mine is worse xD

[agile kite]

If I go infertile, but still get 5 tasks, i can get prime right?

[chrome quail]

nope

[wintry cipher]

If you do 6 tasks maybe but yeahhhh low chance of that

[agile kite]

I did it once, but people keep saying no so idk anymore 😂

[tribal girder]

I would say it depends on weather or not you know why it's happening. Also it wouldn't need to be a strick time and date, just "this is being worked on right now"

[opaque inlet]

Yes you can. 4 pz/2mz counts as a single task though. ( Completed when you do one or the other. ) You could be someone's baby and that would be a 6th task to make up for your temporary infertility. You could also raise your own kids and that could also make up for it.

[ripe spire]

This whole system is a scam! Forget about 5 tasks or visiting the actual migration-/patrol zones. Just watch Nickboay's video about reaching prime

And yes, you can become infertile and still reach prime

[vale pawn]

your skin doesnt even look bad really, the only thing id say is bringing it down is the red and changing it to black would make it pretty good

theres also no way yours is worse then that other one 💀 holy that looks like regurgitated crayons

[gentle lichen]

i think thats the worst skin ive ever made xD it seriously hurts my eyes

[vale pawn]

if that manages to hurt your eyes a neon highlighter dino probably obliterates your eyes out of existence then

[gentle lichen]

i see some of these when i see videos from private servers. im being honest. everytime i see one of these neon pink whatever creations i wanna bleach my eyes. i think that would hurt less than looking at this

[vale pawn]

i dont know how anyone wants to willingly have those skins if your gonna make a bright dino at least make it look good

[gentle lichen]

fr

[shadow wraith]

@low anvil this is the channel for responses n' stuff

[low anvil]

Okay

[sturdy maple]

Honestly... yes.. But that's also basically what's already happening in this game. Sanctuaries and jungle river areas are badly camped, usually with mixed packers. Look at highlands, because that still has the galli ai. Just trying to go to sanc is life-threatening right now.

This has come about because everyone is so desperate to not get frail elder etc. Every life is a frantic rat-race to not waste the time spent growing your dino. Unless you are a rex with a stupid long grow >_>

[shadow wraith]

a big chunk of that suggestion is already in game I'm pretty sure
Not sure I'd want a AI dibble tho

tweaks and adjustments obviously could be made to the system, it feels good when it works but the times where it doesn't just tanks it

[blissful lotus]

I once made a feedback where I asked to buff Ptera's flight speed and turn radius and it got hated on... Can anyone tell me what's wrong with that

[pliant idol]

Can you please fix the bug with bodies disappearing? I hate spending time killing something just for it to disappear like 5 minutes later.

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message @forest axle check devblog

[finite karma]

yo so my game crashed and i when i restarted my game and got back in my dino was gone

[wooden agate]

it's possible you were killed after your game crashed

[barren marten]

Is anyone having issues with bucking raptors? I just lost a fg maia simply cause I couldnt buck, and there were no rocks or water to get them off ☹️

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

the entire point of stego's bleed is so you bleed out midfight and die lmao

[agile kite]

I didnt really get what he said at the end. Does every dino start with 2 points at the beggining?

[ripe spire]

you get 2 points for each task:
2x for visiting sanctuary
2x for getting perfect diet above 100%
2x for visiting one of those special locations (forget about migration and patrol zones)
That's a total of 6 points, going infertile is only -1 and you still end up with 5/5 tasks done. And yes, this system is as stupid as it sounds...

[agile kite]

Look at his comments, he says its only 1 point and not 2 😵‍💫

[ripe spire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6prH6NaLrw&t=164s

this one, I've tested it and it worked

but who knows, this elder crap is a complete mess. hands down the worst thing they've ever added to the game

how this made it past HT is beyond me

[junior nymph]

@frail ore you should read the devblogs!

they tell you whats happening including giving more colours

[frail ore]

I thought it said that they were just haveing different patterns only for certain colors

[frail ore]

Is that what they ment? Thats great news!

[junior nymph]

its basically saying we will have sets of colors, lets say you have a art piece, you will pick like a range of colors depending on what you are doing, thats kinda what they are doing or if you have a animal and it will have a set of colors that the animal would have, its odd to explain

[wooden agate]

theyre bringing back more colors + introducing themes to patterns

so for instance (just for example), Rex Pattern A may have access to plains, forest, and redwood themes, while something like Rex Pattern B could have access to coastal, highlands, etc themes

[frail ore]

Thats pretty cool actually. Can't wait to check that out

Thank you for explaining!

[tranquil finch]

⁨@livid ember⁩ bro those videos are old af before the balance changes

[livid ember]

They show how rex easily gets behind trike, nothing to do with head armor fixes

[tranquil finch]

screenshot, and you also talk about trike standing flip, what is that?

[livid ember]

Fixed. Standing flip is hold LMB

[tranquil finch]

they removed standing flip btw it does a useless animation that takes a long time and stops you from turning while doing it so people have to exit spar LMB and enter spar

you can only flip with momentum

[livid ember]

They didn't, it still does cc, but overnerfed one cuz rex mains cries. It has bigged animation and uses the spar engage one

It's still a cc move tho

[tranquil finch]

its ass nobody uses it

[livid ember]

Because it can't stun rex as it should

While rex stuns trike reliably with crushes, trike can only stun rex with running flip which lands 1 time in a fight at max

Why is rex better at stunning trike than trike is at stunning rex lol

[tranquil finch]

maybe even better overall - make crush only possible with momentum

[livid ember]

Head armor has nothing to fo with it cuz rex will get behind

Rex also has advantage during spar since it can push trike to the side and crush stun it, while trike, even if it pushes rex - can only do useless standing flip or normal attack. Trike has nothing to prevent rex from riding it and this is the issue

[tranquil finch]

^?

[livid ember]

Idk how those will help trike w rex getting behind no matter what trike does

It just needs to reliably stun rex like stego does, so rex at least thinks before running head on

[tranquil finch]

i didnt say it will help with rex getting behind trike i said it to this #general-feedback-discussion message and it would also make it a LOT more easier to fight and punish rexes, for example an allo pack hunting a rex, the rex can just use the muzzle swing alt attack and then crush and pin it and its dead but with this change it cant just pin it after doing the muzzle swing so the allo has another chance

[livid ember]

Give trike back it's standing flip animation (why was it even changed with engage one), and make it stun rex

[tranquil finch]

#general-feedback message ⁨@gentle lichen⁩ they already said that they are working on the colors, that you will choose like green or red or yellow and youll get those combinations of colors but not combined together so you cant do something like you did

[gentle lichen]

Bruh you dont get the message.

[tranquil finch]

so you just say this instead of explaining it to me? nice way of thinking and dealing with things

[gentle lichen]

I dont want this ugly colors like in this picture. I am protesting that they took all the nice colors and colorcombinations but of their fav dinosaur they took nothing ofc. They kept all of the colors.

[fossil flicker]

Not anymore I think

They made improvement

[tranquil finch]

i never said you want these colors, you never said they didnt take anything from their favorite dinosaur, what you said is that you want the colors back. I was explaining they will bring them back but in a way that prevents ugly color combinations

[gentle lichen]

The message "we dont want rainbowcolors" what they said is bs when you can do this. There was legit no reason to take the colors away. So yes i want to have them back.

They couldve just waited till they have the other option instead of only giving us ugly brown yellow and red

[tranquil finch]

who knows why they didnt take them from cerato but fact is they will add them back eventually

[chrome quail]

Rn with the new changes and fixes that Rex can’t fracture trike head it’s 50/50 I don’t think Rex has priority anymore but trike can just keep getting free thrashes in sparring mode now

[livid ember]

They only fixed head armor, nothing else

[livid ember]

Rex still slams cuz of agility and crush stun spam
You all say new changes when it was only head armor fix which doesn't help trike w rex getting behind. It shouldn't even be 50/50 head on, trike should have the advantage

[chrome quail]

It does in sparring

[chrome quail]

Its agility is fine but you can’t crush stun spam if u crush once u get a stun but on ur second crush u dont get a stun there is a timer

[livid ember]

It doesn't, rex can push it to the side and crush stun it lol, watch the videos

[chrome quail]

Videos are outdated

[livid ember]

Rex gets stun on every crush btw

[livid ember]

Trike v rex sparring wasn't changed

[chrome quail]

Yes but u can’t stunlock???

[livid ember]

You still stun trike reliably while trike can't stun you

[chrome quail]

Trike can it can just do running flip

[livid ember]

Youre not running in a rex fight

[chrome quail]

They made improvements to it

[livid ember]

Just bug fixes, rex still pushes trike to the side and stuns it

[wooden agate]

trike recovers a bit faster from that now

[chrome quail]

Not priority anymore I don’t think

[livid ember]

Dude are you saying trike running flip stun is as reliable as rex crush stun or what?

[chrome quail]

Also that’s a feature in spar mode trike can do that or even better thrash in spar mode

[wooden agate]

or, seemingly does anyway

[livid ember]

Trike has no benefits from it since it can't stun rex when standing

[chrome quail]

Kinda

[chrome quail]

It can in spar

Like you have to be sparring the Rex

[livid ember]

Yeah surely an attack you use 1 time in a fight is as reliable as rex spamming crushes lol

[gentle lichen]

Ugh the game would be so much more fun if rex or allo wouldnt exist

[livid ember]

Trike can't stun rex outside of running flip

[chrome quail]

Then what would hunt trike stego lol

[gentle lichen]

Ceras

[tired quest]

is there any benefit sparring with rex? I saw that rex can expose trikes sides

[gentle lichen]

That requires skill instead of one tab win

[chrome quail]

Cera is a poor hunter

[gentle lichen]

Oh we have been 2 vs 1 cera trike before the update

[chrome quail]

Also they are bringing trike to closer power to Rex (might)

[gentle lichen]

Like i said. It requires skill

Also... Troodons. 😉

[chrome quail]

That trike is a drone I’ve 1v4 ceras

[livid ember]

It still needs help like stunning rex more reliably

[chrome quail]

And you will loose most of the player base

[gentle lichen]

Maybe the ceras werent skilled 😉

[chrome quail]

Ik that standing flip needs to comeback

[chrome quail]

Dude having no mid tier or apex carni is bad

[livid ember]

It exists, trike cc was just overnerfed

[gentle lichen]

Even 3 vs 3 works 💅

[chrome quail]

They need to revert it quick

[chrome quail]

Gotta be ragebaiting

[gentle lichen]

At least you could run from a trike.

[gentle lichen]

Oh there exists a video somewhere

[chrome quail]

Against a terrible trike

[gentle lichen]

Just dunno if my friend uploaded it on her yt. Gotta check later

[gentle lichen]

3 trike

[chrome quail]

Omds that’s worse

[gentle lichen]

Well like i said. Not everything needs to be a one tab kill.

[chrome quail]

Them trikes are 100% bad then

[chrome quail]

Trike has a one tap kill too…

[gentle lichen]

Its way nicer if you need some skill to do so. Fighting trikes with troodon is sooooo much fun. With cera was so much fun before there were rexes and allos everywhere putting theyr 5 cents in every fight

[gentle lichen]

Yeah but you can avoid it

[chrome quail]

And you can avoid a Rex crush 🥀

[gentle lichen]

Well not as much

The rex has a turnspeed thats insane

And a hitbox from the size of russia

[chrome quail]

Trike can hit u with thrash on its backside

[gentle lichen]

I know but its easier avoidable than a rex crush

[chrome quail]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-i-guess-bro-bro-i-guess-ok-man-gif-6278747235421617446

[gentle lichen]

Doesnt mean that this is good the trike can do that.

[gentle lichen]

You never even tried playing a smaller dinosaur against a big one i assume

[chrome quail]

I have many times

[gentle lichen]

You didnt succeed i guess

[chrome quail]

I did actually

[gentle lichen]

Then why are we discussing?

[chrome quail]

Because you want to remove the only apex carnivore and mid tier out of the game

[gentle lichen]

Rex isnt needed to be able to kill trikes

Cera and carno once were mid tier

[wooden agate]

to be fair it has to have like half of its entire backside under the rexes jaw

its odd but you have to really be getting in that thang for it to happen

[chrome quail]

It is.

[gentle lichen]

Nah. We never needed it. It causes more problems to the game than anything good

[chrome quail]

So does every update it causes more bugs 😭🥀 even before rex and allo cera was hated because how op it was

[chrome quail]

Try to 1v1 a trike as a cera

[gentle lichen]

Because they dont seem to be able to put a proper balance into it

[chrome quail]

So I’m guessing you want Cama in this game but no giga because it will be op?

[gentle lichen]

Now id say that for example everything is kind of balanced except for the big ones. Why not like this before. Just f that apexes fr

[chrome quail]

Allo I get Rex just needs to be a bit slower

[gentle lichen]

Well ofc thats a hard one and not really making sense. You need a pack for this

[gentle lichen]

I want neither of them

Im not an apex player and will never be

[chrome quail]

Still hard as a pack Rex is the only playable rn that can reliably kill a trike on its own (except troodon)

[chrome quail]

Ok

[gentle lichen]

I rather have allo than rex lol. But the allo either needs to loose its pin/pounce or the fast biting

[chrome quail]

I guess

[gentle lichen]

Rex at least should become slower. But then again something needs to be done with stego or we will just see rex corpses under stegos.
That crush is also to much. Longer cooldown would be good. And the glass bones.... I dont even wanna talk about this

[austere kettle]

And he kills him without any problem, so why add more dinosaurs if I'll pin them to the ground anyway and they'll fall, the same will happen with Cama, zero skill is playing as Rex

[chrome quail]

If you are talking about Rex vs trike Rex can’t insta pin it

[austere kettle]

It depends on whether he is an adult or not. If he is not an adult, i.e. has 60% growth, he is pinned. Checked information. It will be the same with Cama. You can't do anything to such a rex, you can't even defend yourself without being an adult, and running away is basically the same as on dibble =dead

[chrome quail]

What weight is 60% trike

[austere kettle]

It's so heavy that I got pinned by Rex twice😢

[chrome quail]

Damn

[austere kettle]

There is no point in playing something that can't defend itself or even escape, so game over.

[chrome portal]

fffffrfffff

[austere kettle]

I was playing prime dible now and I fought rex, it's cool that he uses one pin button and kills me 100% skill xdd cool fight

[hardy flame]

It was your fault playing against John Saur of Dino, in a dinosaur game, that's inheritly unbalanced constantly, with a broken mechanic.

The fact it was a T-Rex, or rather a specific idea of the t rex, and gets all the bells and whistles with no ACTUAL downsides (save grow time, which is easy), with the best combat stats on the roster, was your fault! Don't exist on the same server as them, your fault honestly /j

[austere kettle]

What are you saying, I don't understand xD

[hardy flame]

Honestly the time a T-Rex should be able to pin for should be cut in like half, or it should require more stamina on their part, or less on their opponent especially. It shouldn't be something you can apply to anything that isn't tired. Why can't you wriggle free? Why can he do it from the front, where the teeth/beak/horns/crest are? All sauropods should be immune, honestly, due to the crest; the pin always targets the neck

[hardy flame]

I was making a joke that it was your fault for existing on the same server as a T-Rex player; the joke being you did nothing wrong and that T-Rexes are overtuned and the fact you didn't win the machup is just how unbalanced the game is at the moment]

[austere kettle]

a ok

[lone solstice]

Yeah they really need to tone them down, they make the overall experience soooo much more boring.

[austere kettle]

I simply fought a rex. I hit him once, and he pinned me to the ground and took all my HP, so I could have run away, but I'd already been playing Dibble for a week and had to run away from the rexes several times, barely escaping because they caught up with me anyway. Secondly, it was a prime Dibble, so I assume that when Kentro comes out, it'll be the same as Dibble. Kentro=dead win rex

[hardy flame]

I have encountered 20 players other than my friends over the months I have had the game.

15 were rexes or allos specifically for their pins

I saw multiple solo rexes killing multiple carnivores.

I have seen 2 herbivores EVER, because those that cannot escape or fight a rex (AKA EVERYONE) are hindered by rex existing as it is

[lone solstice]

And you'd be right to assume that given how overtuned they are, plus how herbi defenses aren't taken into consideration at all, stego plates don't matter none for pin or pounces lol, rexes be chokin' on them and it does nothing

[hardy flame]

I dunno how but the horns on all Ceratopsidae should do damage if you run into them or something, the crest should block the neck grab pin too, that's WHY THEY EVOLVED THE CREST, to defend against this specific scenario, stego plates too

[lone solstice]

Yes! this also screws over other carnis, in the sense of: Stegos NEED to be grouped to survive rex pairs currently, this means that lower tiers cannot fight stegos cause most of them are grouped up, which ends up being boring for the herbivores, too

[hardy flame]

it's almost like, if rexes existed as they do in game they'd go extinct because they'd overhunt their own food supply

[lone solstice]

Yessss that's what im saying!

[hardy flame]

if you need 2 Apex herbivores to kill one carnivore due to an instant kill button, the game is inheritly unbalanced

there's not incentive to play herbivore; carnivores have a more inheritly appealing playstyle, they can aquire their diet easier than most herbivores due to glitchy plants or plants that wont let you knock them down to grow, until you're adult, and by that point it's too late anyways to get prime... Etc Etc

Herbivores should get extra nesting bonuses, a longer spawn code, anything to encourage team play, since pack animals cannot exist in a world where T-Rexes OUTNUMBER pack animals

dont get me started on T rex being able to have one of the largest pack sizes for a sauropod, why is Carno only 3, deinosucus 2, but REX is 4 (if not 5??)

[lone solstice]

Hmmm i do have to disagree with the food bit, the glitchy plants are a nuisance, but they do get an easier start on life than carnivores, and food is not such a pressing issue. Although they should buff the food plants give cause one singular sub-apex eats a whole migration zone to be satisfied if hungry

[hardy flame]

If herbivores like Trike had an instant kill horn gore people would be complaining, but because T-Rex is the popular kid and also obviously a house favourite in development due to how many people wanted it and allo, they tuned it up to make it hyper viable...

[hardy flame]

Yes, and food gives basically no nutrients

[lone solstice]

Honestly, this level of strength should be reserved for strains such as hypo imo. They are genetically modified killing machines that need to constantly feed to live (and should be INCREDIBLY rare because of it). THIS i could get behind, it adds horror to the game rather than the 300 op rexes we have now

[junior nymph]

@ember raven just letting you know, the elder system we have rn is the base growth for any animal

so making it so elders are just another growth cycle is already in

for example, stego elder is 7 hours, rex is 12 etc

and you cant really stop growth because how growth is done so you cant make elders a optional thing, if you did that you would need to redesign the whole growth system from the ground up

also the reason frail exists is to punish players who dont play well or how the game is envisioned to be, I get prime every life so

removing frail would lead to all the big clans just sitting in a spot growing, also making elder optional would also impact how players use the elder system as why engage in something that would make you worse down the line while you can just stay adult forever and just exist

majority of the ideas go directly against how the elder system is meant to work and play

or they just already exist (growth)

we know that having a base creatures growth doesnt work to make them rare as thats already how it works meaning that wont fix a thing

[rustic crescent]

I had an Omirapptor as an egg that I leveled to Prime. When I safely left the EU1 server, it was gone the next day?! What happened? This also happened to me once with a Prime Rex EU8 that was at 97%. This sucks! can someone help with this?

[icy lion]

@bitter oriole Your messages were deleted because you cannot use #general-feedback to report bugs. Use #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[sweet mason]

I think there are better channels in this server for this, this is merely the discussion of general feedback

I saw someone say something about bringing back old underwater visuals, trust me you don't want that. I'll tag the one who made it and post a screenshot of before the new visuals during night, I don't like it all being blue either and it causes problems when respawning for a short (but torturous) while so I certainly understand why it was made, but that is for another day, to remind what it once used to be on any other type of weather that wasn't clear skies.

[pale river]

#general-feedback message fr

[urban flax]

#general-feedback message
Each bite DOUBLE the bleed ?

Killing a rex in a split second with 512x bleeding rate let's go

[pliant elm]

@nova loom Why not make Allo even more op, right?

[nova loom]

@final leaf The graphics was better, the night vision was better. The UI was better. Now even grass rendering is bad. Feels like they do everything more bad than before.

[wanton drift]

Forgot to say in my suggestion, but species specific elder quests could also increase the attention and usefulness of otherwise unused mechanics, like needing to "win" a certain amount of sparring matches as a ceratopsian once sparring gets its rework etc.

[vernal jacinth]

You can edit it in

[wooden agate]

@crimson ruin dont think you can sniff eggs that havent been picked up out of the nest lol

[trail thistle]

#general-feedback message oh boy... it was very common for another tyrannosaurus to break the bones of others tyrannosaurus. the jaws of tyrannosaurus rex was specifically design to break bone.

[trail thistle]

yeah... i don't think people understand that part. frail is a thing to prevent people from sitting in one spot.

[soft canopy]

the performance was way worse 2 years ago too though

and so was the optimization, like it was HORRIBLE compared to now

the graphics were nice though from certain points of view

[wooden agate]

yeah

i dont think people realized that asking for better preformance would undoubtably have an effect on the graphics (alongside all the changes that come due to the engine upgrades)

[junior nymph]

its like everyone forgot how performance was on spiro

or forgot how bad spiro was in general as I see alot of people saying bring it back

[dusky canyon]

They freaking fix pounce bug yet for omni?

[junior nymph]

#general-feedback message the neck is a good suggestion, making it quad makes me wanna puke

it would have to bend in such a weird way making the sail look weird and bendy

[modest yoke]

wooowww again and again... after 2 weeks i wanted to play the isle again on server 3.
My little REX of +/- 80% ....

HE IS GONE!!!! What happend???
When i want to logg in ... the rex desipears on te log in screen. When i logg in... i need to choose a new dino.?????

[urban flax]

With how our spino's bodyplan is, that'd be like asking allo to be quad as well
They have almost the same body and with "beefy arms"

[junior nymph]

lol

[abstract geode]

@final silo I saw your post about fixing the graphic stuff because your frames are low, even with a great GPU. I wanted to ask a couple questions about your setup. I have a 5070 and run a consistent 80-160 fps and want to help you out

To add to this, I run everything on high or epic.

[junior nymph]

#general-feedback message I love how that would make allo actually broken

back to bleeding out in 2 seconds

[cursive torrent]

what a great and fun game, game crashes and 50% rex just gone, fish are bugged for a year now and hackers everywhere

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

allo fans on their way to present the most unfun, unfitting move ever to replace allo's right click (it's not pinslop tho)

allo with fracture is wild

it also, once again, does nothing to aid allo in fighting larger creatures, which people just seem to forget allo is designed to do

[wooden agate]

@vagrant phoenix have you cleared your config at all

[junior nymph]

yea, ive honestly got a performance increase over the updates

and I see people saying they have a 5070 and get like 160fps

[chrome quail]

fr rex is MEANT to pulverize bone

[tough flume]

u can still use the attack if u have more then a one digit iq plus what we have now is the most diabolical stuff ever seen to man kind an allo floating in midair biting the air and killing a stego like that. a poor cera cant play the game if its not prime elder otherwise it just gets pinned and killed with no change to escape. the idea i have presented is more viable then a floting allosarus that pins anything below 50%. just pure right click yeah u win good job

[paper galleon]

? XD, btw, stego have the most power attack and DPS in the game bcs yes, why are u crying with allo and not with that stego's dumb play? XD

[wooden agate]

meanwhile its literally stegos only way to survive against a rex that fails an ambush lol

i cant believe people can still look at this game and go "hmm yes nerf stego"

[paper galleon]

Just look that bleed and DPS, literally in one second can hit u 3 times and blood out XD

[wooden agate]

and you can just... walk away from it

its not like its a fast animal

just walk away

[paper galleon]

Just walk away vs rex, no?

[wooden agate]

rex can reach 40 kph

[paper galleon]

Hide, etx

[paper galleon]

I know, need nerf, but allo just can't walk away if he need to eat and he is supposed can kill stego in a group xd

[wooden agate]

which he can if you dont just bum rush in

[paper galleon]

U can't walk away if u are a carn bcs need to eat, a rex adult can died very easy for that DPS bcs is insanely stpd

[paper galleon]

Can hit u meanwhile u are pouncing, if he hits u u are done bcs with that DPS can kill u, no joke xd

With a mistake u are done but the stego don't have any problem bcs that's DPS

[narrow cypress]

Pounce is fun ??? Is the worst mechanic ever put in a 4 t Dino , Mr Para be serious you have played with allo ?? You know how are the fights right now , well I resume you a sh1t , it is normal that they have done a worst kit of allo , pounce : is the most unskilled mechanic I have seen , a good weapon for a Utah but weights 600 kg not 4t , second the allo doesn’t need that mechanic to kill big guys I have killed stegos and trikes without it , third allo only hunt based on his bite the rest of the kit is not at height of one of the most used dinos in the isle , right now allo hunts thanks of the bite vs mid tiers , you say is big game hunger , but not all your diet are gonna come be vs Apex’s , fight vs a apex is a bad idea and in most of the cases they one shot you , I understand that they hunt big guys but should only be in exceptional cases because there is a lot of risk in something you know you never gonna win , you don’t have the agility , strength, nothing to kill a big guy except of the pounce and is a mechanic that is destroying the game right now

Mr . Para pls before speak play with allo , try fight a rex 4t , dibble , maia , 2 ceras , you are gonna see the reality of the Dino , a Dino unfinished with bad attacks , a bad kit , bad animations except of the sniff , I really love allo my fav Dino but this playable right now is tarnishing the name of the Allosaurus.

The frustration of Allo vs Allo, the first one to bite wins, wasting 3 hours of your life because of that, not because of skill, Mr. Para, I'm serious, do a 1 vs 1, Allo against Allo and you'll be the first to ask for a change in Allo's kit

[final silo]

unc crashing out😭

[narrow cypress]

I don’t want to kill maias or dibbles , doesn’t care , I want allo that if loses is because is your fault not because the Dino was relegated to the background behind the rex, giving it all the prominence and leaving the allo so sidelined , unfinished with bad attacks : claws- have the worst hitbox I have ever seen and directional claw is the worst animation i have seen , bite , is the only weapon to kill but is op I have to admitted , pounce is the worst thing that have

[narrow cypress]

He is always complaining about allo and literally he never plays it

[astral ether]

#general-feedback message

I thought I was the only one who noticed this. There used to be benchmark videos of the isle that looked absolutely GORGEOUS, now the game just looks cluttered and flat. Crazy how the isle is losing the seldom thing that puts it above the rest 😬

[vagrant phoenix]

Yes 💀

[wooden agate]

have you tried kougas optimization guide

[vagrant phoenix]

I think i did a while ago

[wooden agate]

ive heard quite a few people had some major fps improvements after trying it, may be worth trying again after the latest patches

i think she just released another guide 3 days ago

[vagrant phoenix]

Oh yeah just found it, havent seen this one. Ty

[foggy field]

I dont think allo needs any buffs or nerfs

[cinder wave]

@vivid mason bro in that video that trike literally doesnt know how to play and you are complaining about how op is rex????? dude

trike is overpowered too, and rex need to be because is a A P E X

[wanton torrent]

isle servers are down

[foggy field]

I think he is more complaining how fast the crush cooldown is, witch is true

Id rather see crush deal more damage and have a longer cooldown

Rn is a spammy atack

[vernal jacinth]

<@&933486433342222376>

[eager hearth]

So like, as a complete outsider to the larger dinosaur players, this whole conversation about things like crush kinda just all seem like a lot of it could resolved with both tighter hit boxes for pin and pin like mechanics, and a duration limit on how long those mechanics can incapacitate another player. Also net code stability being a bit more consistent would be helpful to.

[icy lion]

@somber mountain Use spawn codes

@sudden cliff Check the pinned messages in #evrima-na #evrima-eu to see how to report hackers

[somber mountain]

Didn’t even know that’s a thing thx king

[snow dock]

they exist when you spawn when you press tab and group a long code will appear you can copy and paste

[sudden cliff]

Reporting him js gets him banned we lost 6+ hours of growth in 2 seconds while we were thinking the server crashed so we were logging out then he ran and flipped us killing us instantly

[gritty mantle]

why is always on the weekend, lol

[austere kettle]

Allo isn't as toxic as Rex with a pin you can't avoid. I fought as a Dibli vs. Adult Allo and won easily. Even when he jumped me, I still knocked him down, so it's a fair fight.

[austere kettle]

Because it's the third one, you don't understand why you're doing Dibble Prime if Rex comes and pins you with a very good Dino skill. Playing with one hit is the same as playing Stego Trike. If he's underpowered on those two, as I said, you die. Normally, the fight would be 50/50, not 90/10.

[austere kettle]

Kentro will come out and what can't defend itself against rex because it can pin without any problem and kill in a few seconds?

[narrow cypress]

you sure that allo was good? i mean pro allos literally dont uses pounce and kill the dibbles with the bite

it so useful the bite if you win the back of the dibble and you have damage advantage is a win for the allo

[austere kettle]

I don't know if this allo was good or not. I got a little bloody.

[narrow cypress]

Right now allo can kill a lot of, but it is not funny , bite - bite - bite

[austere kettle]

I turned around when he hit my ass and took damage

[narrow cypress]

But it's not the players' fault, it's the developers' and QA's fault for creating a dinosaur with a good base, but they didn't know how to take full advantage of its potential and made a mess of it.

[austere kettle]

It's like cerato bite bite or skills or like rex one animation to kill trucks

[narrow cypress]

I have kill a lot of dibbles like that but is not funny, for the poor dibbles I mean lost 4 hours of your life because devs hasn’t done his work

[austere kettle]

I know now that if they don't release the anti-rex pin, they can't release any more dinos because they're meat for the rex.

[narrow cypress]

Any Dino in the future running less than 35 kmh is a free meat for rex

[austere kettle]

That's why I don't want to play slow dinos, which should have strong defense, but they die in a few seconds game over anyway.

[narrow cypress]

In my opinion right now the big problem is prime rex , a Rex running 40 creates big problems first : destroy all rexes from 50% growth to 75% growth literally you need a lot of luck to don’t die cannied

Second playing cera , allo and dibble you know that you are gonna die from Rex in most of the cases

[cinder wave]

If you want to nerf it, you have to nerf how fast the trike attacks and Stego's attacks are if you want something fair.

[foggy field]

.

Longer cooldown but more damage

No need to change other stuff

Just so its not stupidly spammy

[cinder wave]

At least 2k damage per crush if you want so many nerfs. I'm fed up. All you ever ask for are nerfs, nerfs, and nothing but nerfs. Live and let live, bro. Literally no one ever complained when the Stego was one-shotting the entire roster, and now you're complaining about the only carnivore that counters it. I hate that you only ask for nerfs and, ON TOP OF THAT, YOU'RE ASKING FOR BUFFS FOR THE MOST BROKEN HERBIVORES. I find it really stupid and ignorant of you, honestly

im out

[foggy field]

Dude wth i just said to give it a longer cooldown but more damage... how is that a nerf? Its more a adjust

I did not even mentioned trike and stego

Only rex crush

[austere kettle]

Rex is strong, and the developers should finish the game already because it's pointless. If Spino is going to be released, what skills will he have to fight Rex? The same goes for Giga or Acro. Giga, which deals massive bleeding that deals 100 damage every second, we can have fun with that, or Acro, which strangles its prey and kills it in seconds. We can go back and forth, and people won't want to play.

[austere kettle]

That's true

[tough flume]

i feel like the best solution for crush is making it only usable when in the ambush speed (making it more like a ambush ability then just spam)

[foggy field]

Mrs.Savage zero over there would have a stroke

[tough flume]

he is just a ignorant peep that wants that rex need to be the best dino in the game no matter what

[tough flume]

the difference was that stego couldnt catch anyone but now 50% of the roster are not playable because we have a fat boy that runs 40km/h and turns on a dime while running

[austere kettle]

Pure truth

[tough flume]

nah like fr what is the QA team thinking and we still havent resived any nerfs or anything make rex actually a ambush predetor and not a giga with bone break

[foggy field]

Plus trike is not cacthing anything also

[tough flume]

excatly and trike is just getting played with by rex its really sad

[ripe spire]

Which herbivore is broken?

[tough flume]

none he is just a mad carni main that wants carnivores to dominte like in legacy

[ripe spire]

Alright, was actually wondering cuz I can't think of a single one xD

[tough flume]

trike is severly under buffed

one trike vs one rex. trike should win 85% percent of the incounters

[ripe spire]

Trike and stego are nothing but walking food atm

[foggy field]

He thinks trike and stego are overpowered

[ripe spire]

lol

[austere kettle]

I'd just like to fight normally, not die in seconds, like a Trike or Dibble or Stego. I'm slow, about 50% tall, and I can't defend myself against an adult Rex like a Trike or Stego, and Dibble. Maybe I'll escape if I'm lucky. Rex kills everything from small to large dinos.

[ripe spire]

It seems like people have forgotten the #1 rule of this game:
If you can't fight it then you should at least be able to escape it

[tough flume]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1304024371093831775/1457093915671924939/attachment.gif

[pliant elm]

Do you know why nobody complained about Stego? Because Stego couldn't chase its opponents; everyone could easily run away, and Stego couldn't catch them.

With the exception of the Trike, but Trike could handle 1-3 Stegos even before the Bite Force damage buff and Thrash dmg buff

That's why Rex needs those nerfs. Unlike Stego, Rex can catch up to and even surpass things that weigh three times less with his speed

[slow stream]

yep.. also the herbs lit got no chance to escape like nobody does

[abstract geode]

I think a good fix would be a mucher shorter ambush time. It could still be an ambush predator, but there's no way an animal waying thousands of pounds would run that fast, that long. Look at elephants.

[cinder wave]

na, im just out because people always wanna herbis be the more ops dinos in the game

The counter to overpowered herbivores is the T-Rex; it's literally a dino that has to fight the current herbivores, and you guys just want nerfs because you don't know how to play, or at least that's what I think. Because with all due respect, the proposals you're making are absurd and stupid since they don't balance it; they simply make it inferior to the dinos in its tier

[cinder wave]

thats im saying man, rex need a nerf in his ambush speed dude, not all of him

[tough flume]

no just give him less stam or more stam drain when sprinting just like in legacy making him a ambush predetor and not giga with bone break

[cinder wave]

thats a good way, more stam drain in his ambush speed is good to

[tough flume]

[cinder wave]

@vivid mason your friend doesnt know how to play dude

stop lying XD

[tawdry beacon]

Is para coming with bary in the next update? (That ❌ hurt me)

When is para coming than?

[foggy field]

Para will take a long time

[austere kettle]

But it's obvious that you're only following Rex and not seeing what's happening around him in the game. But it's obvious that if a few things change, you won't be able to play Rex anymore. XD Come on, give me a break.

[cinder wave]

so, nerf trike and stego too, im locking for all the playables, rex only need a nerf in his ambush speed, I have 2900 hours in game, you dont know how to balance him, im sure you are only thinking in trike and stego, and they are good, they are balanced with rex too dude

[austere kettle]

You can have up to ten thousand hours and still not be able to see everything people are writing and understand xD. And the second thing is that I'm not only thinking about Trike and Stego, but also about other dinos that are free from Rex + those that will also be added

[foggy field]

Rex should mantain the same adult speed it has up till he declines, like what happens with cerato and allo

Stego and trike should also not get faster too

One of the main issues that rex is being able to easily run circles around trike and stego is its unnatural speed at peak prime, once you try fighting has bot adults ( 75%) the fight is more even

• crush should get a slower cooldown but more damage

Its just a spammy atack now a days

Rex plays like a giant cerato

[austere kettle]

And if you have so many hours and you say that Trike and Stego are OP, it means you are weak on Rex xD

[tropic pewter]

personally, I was completely satisfied with the graphics and performance of the game until the map changes along with the addition of the triceratops.
I understand that the graphics degradation was done to improve performance, so why did my fps drop?

[foggy field]

Stego and trike are in a better spot now for sure, but Rex needs to be toned down a bit to few more even when fighting not only them but other dinos,sub and juv rex is still mega cracked

[cinder wave]

so, rex cant facetank trikeBut you want the Rex to be even less agile than a Trike and able to spin around it, meaning: I want the Trike to always win just because, im out

[foggy field]

I just said the needs his speed to be consistent like rex and allo. Whats the problem with that?

The fight when both are at 75% is fair

Since at that size rex is not blazing at 40km/h

Prime rex should not be faster them a adult rex

[cinder wave]

im saying they need nerf at least his ambush speed dude

[cinder wave]

trike and stego too

[foggy field]

His base speed shoult not increase

Neither should trike and stego also get speed buffs

Should be the same has ther adult speed

A 12ton trike being faster them a 9ton makes has little sense has a 12ton rex being faster them a 9ton one

Its stupid both ways

Rex should stay at 29km/h

[icy lion]

@dawn flicker Please do not give out locations

[foggy field]

Ant trike at 24 and stego at 27

No speed ups for apexes

[pliant elm]

Having all these hours and still not being able to understand why everyone is asking to nerf Rex is very strange xd

[cinder wave]

everyone??? im saying rex need a nerf in his speed ambush dude

[limber hull]

I have literally no idea what you’re on about, at no point did I say pounce was fun, I just said giving allo a fracturing bite was completely unfitting for the animal

[abstract geode]

I don't think it's a matter of players complaining even though the primary issue is their skill level. Take legacy for example. The trike and Rex were very equal in battle and felt VERY balanced. Evrima's Rex genuinely feels a little too OP. Dondi himself said he wanted trike and Rex to be able to go head to head, which trikes can win, but a lot of rex's gameplay is pin to win. They need to nerf some aspects of it until the dinosaur is less buggy.

Just yesterday I had a FG trike that died literally because of a glitch, not skill. The Rex player pinned me and glitched me into the ground to where I could not move and was a free meal.

[cinder wave]

where is the mesage of dondi??

I wanna see it

[abstract geode]

They were recordings/streams. Look into it 🙂

[cinder wave]

XD

now its very balanced, at least for me

I play trike and always win

just need fixes

in bug interactions

[abstract geode]

All in all, I do not think the Rex is too OP when it comes to stats; however the ambush could use an adjustment IMO.

I think it simply needs a nerf of some kind, mainly the ambush, until it's less buggy.

Trikes needing to be in more in a herd to fend off rexes make sense and solo players can defeat a Rex in a 1v1, overall.

[cinder wave]

the ambush need a nerf I think 15 sec to 8 second would be good

[austere kettle]

4

[cinder wave]

bruh

[abstract geode]

Exactly. If it's an ambush predator with that much weight I do not think it's realistic for it to sprint that long. Eight seconds seems perfect. Just enought time to catch up when timed right, but not so much that the other player's have no chance of getting away.

I just thought of one more thing. The vast majority of rex's movements are slower, right? Pinning, biting, etc. I think its alt/spin ability to push away/kill low tier dinos should be slower. That attack is immediate and it does a full circle with it 😅

Or make it dizzy afterwards lol

[pliant elm]

Yes, everyone. Rex needing a nerf to his ambush is the most obvious thing, but he needs nerfs and Adjustments in other areas as well

[austere kettle]

Playing diblle is fun, dying from rex catching up to you or killing you because of pin balance

[abstract geode]

Fr!

[pliant elm]

The only ones who don't want Rex to be nerfed are those who think he has to be overpowered because Rex is "The King"...

[cinder wave]

trike need adjustments too and stego too if they nerf rex

[pliant elm]

Stego and Trike are fine, they don't need buffs or nerfs

Perhaps a buff to the Trike agility in spar mode, but I honestly don't see the need

[cinder wave]

bruh

see??

[narrow cypress]

Using “allo fans” in a dismissive or negative way isn’t fair, especially when all we’re asking for is something that’s actually playable.

You also never answered the question of whether you’ve actually played Allo in PvP and put real hours into the dinosaur. And regarding pounce specifically — since you said the other mechanic wasn’t fun, I was asking if you personally find pounce fun, because for a lot of players, it really isn’t.

What that guy suggested wasn’t a good idea, sure — but that doesn’t justify criticizing or generalizing Allo mains because of it. Wanting Allo to be playable and to fulfill its intended role doesn’t make the feedback invalid.

[pliant elm]

Yes? Xd

[cinder wave]

you dont know how herbivores op are actually

[pliant elm]

They dont are

[thick creek]

#general-feedback message
No shoutout is crazy ngl✌️💔

[pliant elm]

Which herb do you think is op?

And why

[icy lion]

They had been working on that long before your feedback post

There was a test slide animation for teno like... 4 months ago ish?

[cinder wave]

The Trike and the Stego are incredibly overpowered. The Trike has a spectacular spin attack if you know how to use it, in addition to its damage. The Stego is incredibly overpowered because of its bleed and stun (at least in my playstyle, they're incredibly overpowered). The Rex has to be overpowered too; since it has low damage, it has to break enemies relatively quickly to avoid taking too much damage or bleeding. The Trike literally leaves you in the red in two combos, and you think it's not overpowered? And the Stego kills you in three tail swipes. That's what makes me angry. People say they're not overpowered, but they're incredibly overpowered when used properly

[thick creek]

yes but still I see no reason not to just fix this coding error well before they have made all of the animations and the system

its a bug, it doesnt matter if they are planning a sytem for it, it should have been fixed during legacy days✌️💔

the gifs they showed didnt even show the problem, the same would have heppened in game rn, exept trhe animation and the gradual slowing down at the end

[pliant elm]

They're not op. They have this to be able to fight Rex

Trike is the second slowest thing in the game, it has to be strong. Rex decides whether or not to fight a Trike, Trike simply has to accept Rex decision

[cinder wave]

The Trike and the Rex are designed to be balanced and counter each other; they need to be evenly matched

rex is the most op thing in the game with rex

literally oneshot stego

[pliant elm]

Stego had the Stun buff to be able to deal with Rex. Stego, even Prime, was being completely humiliated by something that, besides being stronger, is also faster

Stego was just walking food

[pliant elm]

That's not the case. Rex has a complete advantage over Trike due to his agility and ability to fracture Trike's leg in 2-4 attacks (2 combos of crush and bite)

Trike Thrash is useless against a good Rex

[fierce vale]

bru 6 hours

[cinder wave]

When I fight a T-Rex, it's even

[fierce vale]

i cant even post my suggestion now

[cinder wave]

No, currently the T-Rex can't face-tank a trike; it literally has front armor. At the very least, the T-Rex has to be able to flip it over if the trike gets careless, which is what happens; that's why it's balanced

[fierce vale]

Fix the cheating problem, This has been a reccuring problem for the better part of a few months. I am aware that efforts have been made to fix certain exploits / cheats but you have not really given the community anything descriptive or acknowledgment that cheating is a growing problem and you plan on addressing it. I feel like with the upcoming update that plans to release act least 1 new dinosaur, cheating should also be addressed as well. I am not asking your for a quick fix I just want to know progress, or plans to fix it as it can be frustrating knowing that the devs could be neglecting the problem or not seeing it for what it truly is.

^ good or no

[icy lion]

The anticheat and other detection methods are constantly being worked on. The devs do not and cannout announce when these updates come nor what specifically they're doing for obvious reasons

[fierce vale]

alr

[pliant elm]

I didn't say facetank, although Rex can do that in some situations. And the Trike doesn't choose whether or not to be careless, Rex can simply go behind the Trike without the slightest difficulty

[cinder wave]

Just because you, being a trike, can easily get a T-Rex off your back doesn't mean it's the same for everyone.

[pliant elm]

I forgot to mention that the Trike also has 20% less Health fighting against a Rex. So a Adult Trike only had 7600hp and a Prime 10000hp

Because of the Pin

[pliant elm]

What? You're on Trike's side now?

I don't know if you wrote it wrong, but no matter how good the Trike is, he won't be able to stop Rex, with that agility, from going to his back

[cinder wave]

im im both sides

[cinder wave]

yep you dont know how I play XD

rex should have more agility than trike always XD, trike doesnt need be better in all

[pliant elm]

So you're only playing against really bad Rexs

Even very good players with more hours than you can't stop Rex to going to his back as a trike

[cinder wave]

nope xd

[chrome quail]

or give back trikes standing flip and buff its turn radius a bit and slow down rex

[normal jasper]

@cinder wave REX IS BROKEN

stop trying to defend that playable its ruining the game

[chrome quail]

needs to be a lot slower

[normal jasper]

and turn slower too

trike is getting dog walked by rex its insane

[chrome quail]

its turn radius is fine with slower speed itll be harder for a rex to go behind a trike

[normal jasper]

its not even a close matchup trike just always losses

[normal jasper]

it is not fine at all

[chrome quail]

nerfing fracture i dont think its what we should do

[normal jasper]

well nerf something

[frozen heron]

@quasi stream This would not be colorblind friendly
I'd rather them just change the icons gradually

[normal jasper]

that playable is beyond broken right now

but thinking about it stego is even more broken

[chrome quail]

speed but buff trike turn radius in spar and give back its standing flip

[chrome quail]

stego has some bugs i think

[latent olive]

@agile helm that would do the opposite

[normal jasper]

yeah and make alt attack stun too (trike alt attack)

[chrome quail]

yes

[latent olive]

focusing entirely on one thing is how you have people sitting around doing nothing and waiting

[normal jasper]

would help balance the matchup for sure but even with spar being fixed trike just still losses its not even close

[chrome quail]

ik but with these changes trike will win more

even if we just take off 100 damage off trike biteforce its worth it

[chrome quail]

stego can insta powerswing after getting knocked over btw

[normal jasper]

yeah stego is buggy

[chrome quail]

needs a 1.5 second window after hitting a powerswing if it misses

[quasi stream]

I’m colorblind bro

And I don’t see how this wouldn’t work for colorblind people

The more a certain color it becomes, the more you know it’s rotten.

[frozen heron]

Deuteranopia exists

It can get muddled with the jungle

[cinder wave]

stop crying dude XD

you are the best crying player

[quasi stream]

I am a Deutan

[wooden agate]

i dont know how accurate it is but putting the image through a color blindness filter website thing, one of them was pretty hard to distinguish between (atleast the first two symbols)

i do like the idea of giving more passive information to the player via scent however, so with a few color adjustments i think its fine

[quasi stream]

Indeed. The color I picked on that example it’s a random color to show change. The end color at 90% rotten could be any color different than the initial one. Red, blue, yellow, gray, black, anything really

Could also deteriorate the symbols a bit

[limber hull]

i was making a joke because most of these "new allo ability" suggestions fail to comprehend the fact that allo is not designed to be another rex or carno and just bully stuff smaller than it but actually hunt the larger creatures of the game

you're taking this like it's a personal attack for some reason

[agile helm]

But like, more devs focusing in a feature at time would speed up the time to finish it

[wooden agate]

more people =/= faster

[limber hull]

thats not how it works at all lmao

development is often spread amongst several tasks at a time

[wooden agate]

you can throw 20 chefs in a kitchen and they will all get in each others way and slow down the process massively compared to one or two people

[limber hull]

especially if you tell them to all cook the same dish for one table at the same time

however if you tell each chef to cook a different meal for a different table, people are gonna get served faster

[wooden agate]

yay for stations in culinary enviornments!

[minor sentinel]

@shut grotto #general-feedback message I had this idea for that

[topaz dove]

does anyone know where this gate is located

[minor sentinel]

No

[topaz dove]

damn

[wooden agate]

pretty sure its one of the gates that lead up to NE lake

[topaz dove]

ty

[pliant elm]

East plains

Near east plains

[modern pollen]

@vagrant phoenix allo doesn’t get faster when it’s prime it gets slower

[wooden agate]

@hexed breach check #evrima-na pins on how to report the hacker

make sure you follow the guidelines as if you give away location, skin, or name of the hacker your report will be deleted and you will be asked to rewrite it

[hexed breach]

Thank you

[wooden agate]

no problemo

[vagrant phoenix]

How were 3 prime Allos catching up to me as I was a cera 😭

Unless adult Allo is exactly above 40.3 km/h....

[limber hull]

Cera also gets slower when prime lol

[vagrant phoenix]

Yeah but I get the feeling it takes less time than Allo... Unless Allo grows fast as well

At this point mid and low tiers gonna go extinct, why play anything else when Allo has the best of everything, faster trott than cera, is fast most of its lifetime, can pounce/pin AND has the world's most spammable bite cooldown

[signal geode]

Cera is much More agile than allo

[ripe spire]

ngl messing around with speed values as elder was next level stupid

100% prime Omni is btw faster than prime Galli

[signal geode]

If prime galli has diets its faster

Also Adult galli is slower then Adult omni without diets so not sure how prime effects that

[wooden agate]

they are the same speed (no diet galli and adult omni at 75%, 46.8kph)

as far as prime goes, galli peaks at 54 kph with no diet while omni peaks at 52kph

and then at 100%, omni is only faster if the galli has 0 diet as you said

[narrow cypress]

You have done the charge atack ?? If you uses they can catch you

You loses speed with it

[vagrant phoenix]

Bro why would anyone try to fight something that can delete you with one button (no I did not)

[pliant elm]

Allo Growth is practically the same as Cerato

Even weighing twice as much

[modern pollen]

Allo doesn’t start to drop its speed until it actually hits its prime weight, so it could be 3.5t and still running at 39.2

[vagrant phoenix]

In terms of balance still crazy to me, not to mention there's no escaping even if I were faster, their trott speed is crazy. If I didn't have 3 times entombed multichambered lungs and Map knowledge down to every single rock. Id be dead

[modern pollen]

Entombing doesn’t even increase your mutation values atm unless it has been fixed lol, but yea it needs to be changed

[vagrant phoenix]

I could have sworn it worked last time I tested it, unless specific mutations are affected

[modern pollen]

Could just be specific mutations but I know for sure multichambered wasn’t working the last time I tested it

[vagrant phoenix]

Last time I tested multichbered I was once entombed and could trott above 50%. During the chase I was talking about I never exactly went below 50% even if the value was 15 or 20% I think? So can't exactly confirm

[delicate wadi]

#general-feedback message @prisma pecan
Dibbles can already get coconuts with hold LMB attack on trees, but only if there are actual coconuts to knock down (PZ needs to spawn, I think). Also works on mangoes and those Y diet fruits (cashews? brazilnuts?), but you have to be big enough for it to work. I think it's also a little buggy.
Pachy, dibble, teno, and stego can all obtain and open coconuts with their attacks. I think it makes sense that smaller dinos like dryo or beipi can't get them without help. My big beef is that hypsi can get them by climbing, but not open them -- would be nice if dropping them from a high place would open them reliably. Also, maia kicks/stomps should definitely work, but they don't for some reason. All herbis above X size should be able to do it IMO.

[prisma pecan]

Thanks, I didn’t know this, so this is great!

[pliant elm]

#general-feedback message Why do some people treat Allo like it's a 1-ton dino to be so fast

[pale river]

Fr also it’ll be able to outrun cera which would be crazy

Its a Rex issue not allo

[rotund night]

if you could add Stenonychosaurus i would be greatful

[wintry cipher]

The problem is rex not allo. Making allo that fast would steamroll so many species its not even funny

[noble pine]

Did someone really say juvi Rex can out run anything? I can attest that is so far from the truth. Juvi Rex already moves like a train on a straight track, gets demolished by pretty much everything and is constantly hungry past 30%, it does not need another nerf to its already awful existence.

[noble pine]

Allo being faster than cerato is laughably bad balancing

[desert arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/423939730544132096/1466491303729565696/5911981.MP4?ex=698b7074&is=698a1ef4&hm=0068d621b9d0c734a4bdcacccdca4fe7cf6da5b8d3cb9a02a109c46cbc5623d9&

Are you sure about that?

Casually insta pins and kills a 700kg dilo in 2 seconds

While being faster as well

[noble pine]

That’s a whole sub Rex bro

That’s a 50% Rex, of course it killed a dilo. Juvi Rex is genuinely one of the worst experiences I’ve had with this game consistently, bite cooldown is insane, you can’t turn for anything, you’re a target for everything, and pinning is so busted you can rarely hit, plus the insane stun you get afterward.

Sub Rex is fast and powerful because it fills an entirely different niche than the other 2 Rex growth stages, Alberto will take its place when that comes out.

Is pinning busted when it works? Yeah, that’s undeniable, but the devs are already working on stuff to counter insta-death pins

[desert arch]

Nope, its a 990kg rex that still runs ~48kmh

Feel free to test it on an admin server if you dont believe me

[desert arch]

Juvi rex being as miserable as it is is okay in my opinion, especially because of how much of a power trip it becomes later in growth. (Looking at the above clip and elder rex running 40+kmh)

#general-feedback-discussion message
Oh yeah btw juvi rex pin deals 350dps as well

[rotund night]

dam

[wooden agate]

sub rex is far chunkier than that lol

[rotund night]

yea it looked like a juvie or almost sub

[desert arch]

It was a 46-47% rex as far as I remember

But a far smaller rex can do the exact same to omnis and gallis while still being 57kmh

[limber hull]

i love how the logic works

prime rex is ridiculously fast and runs me down, alongside many other members of the game's roster
don't nerf prime rex speed and instead buff allo so it can run down a ton of the game's roster, even outrunning pachy

like just nerf the prime rex lmao

[hard steeple]

why this game so poorly optimised
has to look like doodoo with the lowest evrrything just to get it to run 50+ frames on a decent pc
idk cant play the game sometimes

[wooden agate]

have you cleared config lately

[pliant elm]

Yes. I don't understand why the idea of buffing Allo, who already runs at 39km/h more than he should, came first, and not the idea of nerfing Rex, who can run at 40km/h

It's much simpler too

[barren crater]

39 is fine for allo, wym more than he should 😭

[limber hull]

honestly out of everything wrong with allo as an animal, i genuinely don't have much of a problem with its speed balance lmao

[barren crater]

But yeah, rex needs nerfing in its ambush duration (all stages) and its top speed at prime

[limber hull]

yea, those are big ones lol

[barren crater]

Slower than cerato and teno and it doesn't immediately pin them either. More than fair

[barren crater]

Honestly, I hope they rework fractures. I dislike the idea of ruining rex's agility. I think it's a good strength to be able to bait and get around a trike. Imo the issue comes from the rest of its kit.

[foggy field]

he can tail ride trike

[hard steeple]

i do it every time trust me ive followed every kouga guide every reddit post and been in the discord to hear the mods and develepers solutions
the game has just been halfhazardly put together since it was only omni and teno

[normal jasper]

no

rex agility definetly needs a nerf its far too broken

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message
as much as i hate to agree with mr "rex is perfect never nerf rex", i dont see how this fixes the problems with rex

also rex doesn't need bleed res

i still think simply reducing murder sprint duration and prime rex speed would resolve most issues with current rex

[normal jasper]

no it wouldnt

rex will still demolish trikes, stego needs to be undertoned as well hes far too broken and because people dont like the idea of "nerf stego" then buff rex bleed resistance instead

and having a worse agility makes both trikes and allos have a better chance against rex instead of buffing trike agility

[limber hull]

then other bleeders won't be able to take it down like allos or gigas

the bleed is a valid weakness

[normal jasper]

im not saying to mega buff the bleed

just buff it a little bit more its so hurrendous right now

rex shouldn't be relying on mutations just to survive its nonsense

[limber hull]

its not even that bad, it's the normal bleed res any creatures get

[normal jasper]

no its not

its the worst in the game

[limber hull]

which is zero

it has the same bleed res as an allo, carno, stego, dilo, omni, dryo, etc

[normal jasper]

why does the bleed res feel so bad then

you bleed out from anything no way its the same as the others

[limber hull]

because when you compare it with trike or deino, animals that actually have high bleed res, rex very much falls short

[wooden agate]

plus most animals that are using bleed against you (allo, stego) do insane bleed damage

like i doubt rex is going to be at risk of bleeding out from a singular omni, atleast in an amount of time that feels unusual

[limber hull]

yea, idk why rex needs to be given even more matchups its favourable against

bleeders should be a bane to it

stego may be good against rex because of its bleed but giga might be a nightmare for stego in the same department

[pale river]

@coarse juniper this is the what they are adding mostly in order. I think Ava is in there too

[coarse juniper]

Man this is all kind of messed up organization

Adding the strongest and most large theropod carnivore to have ever lived and then suddenly adding 3 critters that cant even stand up to a solo Omni before immediately jumping back into apexes

[wooden agate]

what animals there other than ovi cant stand up to omni 😭

except austro i guess but like

you explictly ask for em in the feedback

[coarse juniper]

i dont see kentro beating up omni

[wooden agate]

kentro is teno sized...

[coarse juniper]

i thought it was way smaller then that mb

[limber hull]

i mean

what is an omni doing to a kentro

even if it could pin it, its covered in spikes lmao

[coarse juniper]

id prefer if the roster started from the smaller animals to bigger

[pale river]

I think kentro can beat allo ngl cause no way he’s faster than 40 mph

[wooden agate]

thats what they did for the most part, the only two animals we had above 2t for like 4 years was deino and stego lol

[coarse juniper]

rather then the sudden adding 6+ ton stegosaurus and deinosuchus when the greatest threat were a cerato

[coarse juniper]

well to be fair not much was added in those 4 years, wasnt it cerato and some herbis being added inbetween those years

i think a few other carnis i dont remember

[wooden agate]

cerato, troodon, gallimimus, beipi, pachy, carno, hypsi, dryo

pteranodon

[pale river]

I think they want to give a little to everyone instead of a lot to one person

[wooden agate]

teno/omni (utah at the time) when evrima released

like i understand wanting more small tiers but thats almost exclusively what we got for a while

there is a decent base now to begin adding more mid/large tier animals

and even then they are mixing in small tiers with those releases for players who may want to play small tiers over large tiers

ovi and austro being good examples

[limber hull]

they initially wanted to do smalls to larges, but they realised the issues of that of needing to know HOW to balance an apex and also, people want to try bigger animals

[wooden agate]

@silver scroll read la devblogs

[pliant elm]

Well, Stego will stun Giga, and Giga won't be that much faster than Stego, probably the same speed

Unless the Giga also has an Ambush, which I wouldn't doubt

[fringe rose]

#general-feedback message

Your mutations unlock at 25%, 50% and 75%. At 75% you get to unlock two if you’re prime.

[heady geode]

@harsh socket ^

every single dinosaur

[sick finch]

has the queuing system been removed?

[latent olive]

@keen stirrup actually, funny you say that

the devs had been prototyping some kind of system that allowed Rex (and presumably other large animals) to knock over small bushes and trees

we haven’t heard much on it lately but I assume they just have other priorities

[keen stirrup]

oh damn okay that's rad, ty for the info ❤️

[tranquil finch]

@bitter dove I feel like a chance to rot out of the blue is bad

[bitter dove]

its still better than 100% infertility

and id feel it would be realistic, since they oh so love their realism

[tranquil finch]

How about you remove the random egg rotting from the suggestion, I like the rest but not that

[bitter dove]

u can give it an X, everyone is entitled to their opinion

[vernal jacinth]

@south fable #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 you can report it there

[ionic raven]

Why is the message time limit 5 hours in the feedback chat? Couldn't it just be 1 hour?

[forest quartz]

Stegosaurus is currently the most well equipped dinosaur against a Rex.

[wintry cipher]

Prob to make you consider your suggestion/feedback more fully before making it. There's guidelines in pinned that people still dont follow even with the timer.

[foggy field]

Tf do people want a giga faster them a dibble lmao

[livid ember]

Ig ppl can't get away from legacy isle

[ripe spire]

37kmh Giga is wild af xD

[chrome quail]

Idk why but it is insane

[wintry cipher]

Photo and noct speed were removed before rex was ever added tho?? Or am i crazy

[crimson ruin]

ye they went same update rex came out, shame really i loved the speed boost

[limber hull]

Thank god, I can’t imagine how godawful Rex would be with the speed muts + entombment + elder speed + murder sprint

[wooden agate]

it would genuinely start reaching like 48-49kph

[small furnace]

ah yes the isle, the game where a prime rex that is quadruple the weight and does double the damage of a 55% rex is the same speed walking, running, ambushing, and is 37.22% faster in the water (11.3 to 18.0)

if base photosynthetic increased speed by 5% then that would end up with a 85% rex ambushing around 46 kph...

if i make my own server and can im adding that to the nocturnal mut and buffing the health regen to 20% and then adding stam regen to photosynthetic at 20% as well as the 20% hp

[signal geode]

@bleak quest That Running Speed is way too fast Also stam regen should be slow

And elder Stats are busted

[sick finch]

They've actually taken queuing out of the game. Why.

[junior nymph]

it was most likely breaking

[sweet mason]

seems the screenshot was deleted unfortunate...

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message
doesn't this promote ONLY "pinslop"

why do people just want allo to be carno's lil brother

[signal geode]

💯

[gentle lichen]

#general-feedback message

I think its ok that it can pounce but it shouldnt be able to pin anything. Its absolute bs for people that play hours and then 2 allos come arround the corner and can pin almost everything. AND they desperately need to fix that you can strife them off on trees and such. Atm its not possible to get rid of them.
Smaller things shouldnt be pinnable either. Let them bite or hold onto something bigger. That be fine

[signal geode]

Hold E

[gentle lichen]

Doesnt always work

Often buggy. Still should be possible to strife them off

[signal geode]

Yes but its much better than before

[gentle lichen]

Not really much no

[signal geode]

Takes under 5 seconds to buck allo off with prime dible

[gentle lichen]

It still often doesnt work and i have to watch my dinosaur die. Or im just very unlucky

I never played dibble. Maybe it only happens for certain dinosaurs

[signal geode]

I bucked like 23 allos off yesterday and all of em were under 5 sec

[gentle lichen]

Lile i said maybe the bug is only for some dinosaurs

[signal geode]

maybe it depends on size

[gentle lichen]

Mostly it happens to me as stego

Doesnt matter which size it has. I have tried so many times growing a stego since the update and allo is always my death

[signal geode]

Doesnt stego counter allo anyways

[gentle lichen]

Idk. Im not a good stego player i have to admit but im frustrated practising more now since it doesnt matter as soon as one is on my back im doomed. I dont seem to get them off

Plus the bug that somebody just stated that often you cant sprint after allo pounced you. And with some dinosaurs thats just fed up

[signal geode]

If allo is on ur back just point it at the other allo and buck

[chrome quail]

@charred tide removing fracture from Rex is crazy it’s supposed to pulverise bone that’s like saying remove flesh graze from giga

[urban flax]

How is that comparable giga isn't even in the game
It doesn't have a single confirmed ability or stat

[latent olive]

youre not going to believe this

but "flesh graze" as a mechanic is infact not coming to the game

[chrome quail]

Say u swear

[urban flax]

I wasn't aware of that but that's refreshing news

[latent olive]

dondi was vehemently against being able to feed your mixpacking friends as a mobile food carrier

[chrome quail]

Ahh ok so what is it gonna be then

[latent olive]

dunno

i simply assume bleeding

the devs like to do wacky things with their apexes though so expect the unexpected

[chrome quail]

Alr

[latent olive]

im expecting spino to do some wild stuff, so giga might get some wild stuff too

[chrome quail]

Prob high bleed and medium damage with them claws

[latent olive]

considering currently rex can literally pick things up and full-send them into the air

[latent olive]

no i mean like being able to grab something and throw it in a direction or being able to blind things by spraying dirt everywhere

idk im just spitballing

[urban flax]

https://tenor.com/view/dinoblade-gif-3813205180109185754

[chrome quail]

Sounds wild but Alr lol

[latent olive]

but id say giga might get something good

though apparently its down the line

[latent olive]

thats the point

look at what rex can do with crush

[urban flax]

Burrower giga

[latent olive]

if you told someone in 2021 rex could use you as a volleyball between two rexes he'd get angry because rex bonebreak hnnrgh

[urban flax]

Digs like a sandworm to emerge beneath unsuspecting prey

[latent olive]

clean cut niche

the GIGANOTOSAURUS

[chrome quail]

35kmh giga 💀

[chrome quail]

Do you think giga will have a higher bite force then deino

[latent olive]

probably not

it SHOULD do a lot of damage

and it MIGHT do more than deino

but i dont think it will

emphasising bleed over damage

[chrome quail]

It’s entire thing is bleed so 450 will be alr

Spino I’m guessing 250-300

But fast dps

[urban flax]

I think spino will be dealing most of its damage via claw attacks rather than bites

[chrome quail]

Yh seems like it

[chrome quail]

What do you think about this suggestion #general-feedback message

[latent olive]

im not very good with balance suggestions

i leave that up to the mathematician nerds

[chrome quail]

Alralr

[foggy field]

I bet giga will have either 450-550

[tranquil finch]

@gritty bloom why repeat something you already suggested

[gritty bloom]

trying to get it seen to get it done, everyone that I know is wanting it but it doesnt look like anyone is really caring so im just trying to make it seen by the devs

[tranquil finch]

they said they read all suggestions there’s no reason to flood the channel with same stuff

[gritty bloom]

once a day isnt flooding

if its a rb I guess ill stop

[tranquil finch]

@bleak quest Why are you posting the same suggestion twice when your old one got downvotes? just genuinely interested in why but also they read all the suggestions so why post twice

[tranquil finch]

it’s not a rule break it’s just bad word behavior, why flood the channel even more when they read all the suggestions, it’s just unnecessary

[gritty bloom]

maybe so, but it really, really needs qol updates for climbng and not many others are going to advocate for it and dondi hates hypsi so im just really hoping tbh

[tranquil finch]

suggesting it multiple times does not change anything and I would imagine it just makes the devs irritated seeing some guy spam the same thing with just “day x” added at the beginning

[limber hull]

honestly, hypsi could be as simple as "let it climb but not sprint climb like herrera"

that's it, slow climbing to slightly reposition

[gritty bloom]

as a hypsi main with 100+ hours on hypsi, im just really tired of trees flinging me off for no reason and all other hypsi mains are too

[limber hull]

i too really like playing hypsi so i get this

[tranquil finch]

I agree, we’re on the same boat here but I don’t like seeing people suggest something multiple times as it takes up space for other amazing suggestions and makes the devs spend just a bit more time reading it while not contributing to anything at all, heck even doing the opposite.

[gritty bloom]

I understand it, but I dont think itll change otherwise. I just dont have hope with the devs lmao

[tranquil finch]

hey a lot of other people are frustrated too, Omni mains because they can’t pounce carnos, trike mains because they could get fractured by getting crushed in the head before, stego mains when stego didn’t deal cc to rex, we will all get what we want when there’s enough time, I’m sure of that. The devs want the best for the game even if it might not look like it, it’s their job

[gritty bloom]

im not saying they arent lmao

[tranquil finch]

but fact is they are and imagine if everyone suggested their thing once a day, how would the suggestion channel look? You’re not any more entitled to your opinion than everyone else is and nobody else is spamming their suggestion so I suggest you act like the good person and suggest a thing once and move on

[gritty bloom]

'^' no need to be so rude jesus

[slim hazel]

I think a combo of this and still having the jump would be perfect

[tranquil finch]

I’m not being rude, I’m just explaining the situation in a way that’s easy to understand and giving examples, really sorry if I came off as rude :)

[slim hazel]

Holy doing tricks on it

They gotta change Highlands it looks so much worse then what it did imo

[gritty bloom]

all good, but usually "so i suggest you act like a good person" tends to be considered kinda rude lmao. I understand your point, but I also know hypsi is far less likely to get tlc because no one really roots for it. if I saw more hypsi suggestions, I wouldnt do omething like this but everyone (rightfully) is focuses on their own main dinosaurs

ah, so it is a rb. noted

[tranquil finch]

is it?

[gritty bloom]

yeah just got warned XD

[tranquil finch]

I agree but maybe its better we just don’t know it

[tranquil finch]

oh awesome you can just tell the people it’s a rule break instead of arguing, that’s really nice

[gritty bloom]

yeah :D though is mini modding allowed?

[tranquil finch]

what’s that

[gritty bloom]

when someone who isnt a moderator acts like a moderator its called mini modding

[tranquil finch]

I mean why not? Informing someone that what they did is a rule break

[gritty bloom]

some servers dont allow it, idk if this one does or not. prolly does since you hjavent gotten any warnings tho

anyway imma play the game now XD

[limber hull]

yea, exactly this

keep it "jumpy" but have it still able to slowly navigate a tree

[coarse spruce]

or make the jump mildly "magnetic"

have it stick to the surface as it rises

[wintry cipher]

#general-feedback message

Grass giving food is likely to be removed in the future. Also this would not be fun gameplay nor a viable survival strategy. Play a herbivore and only eat grass and see how engaging that would be, because it isn't.

[faint folio]

I agree, except that you could make ruminants relatively easily while avoiding all of these issues. Not all grasses are equally nutritious, and not all ruminants can eat all grasses. It would be relatively easy to design a dedicated herbivore food plant to look like a specific species of grass (maybe a bunch grass like Big Bluestem to differentiate from non-diet grass). Then you could make that specific grass food plant a diet for specific herbivores, while avoiding the downsides like normal grass giving food or having to eat for 80% of the game play

[wintry cipher]

....thats just reskinning pzs and mzs to have different grasses then. I dont see that being worth the work

[faint folio]

Well, not really. It would be like adding marigold nodes. The nice thing about bunch grasses is they grow in tight clusters, so you could keep the basic "grass" texture of pzs and mzs, and spawn a node of the bunch grass like you'd spawn individual marigolds

[chilly ermine]

@old idol I like that you’re pushing for the troo mimic call. Another idea, the troo could have a reticle system and it would make mimic the call of what it is aiming at.

[modern pollen]

@violet vessel Sounds like megalania

[violet vessel]

A lot of playables sound like other playables

[modern pollen]

Yea but it’s legit just megalania

[pale river]

It sounds it would be more brawler than bleed which I don’t think would really work well assuming they are pretty slow

[vale pawn]

#general-feedback message As a long time experienced dryo player, No. In both to the comments on it and the speed buff

[potent trail]

anyone know what happened to US 7?

[junior nymph]

@loud rover because there is no need for one

the map is easy to navigate, you have literal migrations, roads and other things to direct you

[loud rover]

Easy to navigate for new players is it? Having to tab out and use the exact coordinates you are given for.. some reason is fairly annoying when a map could just be in the game to begin with.

And if it wasn't needed I wouldn't be asking.

[junior nymph]

the map thats a website isnt official, so its not really meant for actual gameplay

[urban flax]

What do you have to use the exact coordinates for ?

[junior nymph]

like theres easy ways how to navigate gateway, you running into a jungle and getting lost instead of using a road is on you mate

[limber hull]

i mean... like, do you HAVE to tab out and use your exact coordinates?

when i first played gateway i just learned by playing

same as the isle in general

[junior nymph]

like you dont even need a map, the game has massive landmarks

[loud rover]

To figure out where the hell I spawned in relation to the rest of the map.

[junior nymph]

you become dependent on a map, if you dont you would literally know the map like the back of your hand in like a few days of playing

[loud rover]

I mean, you're given things that you absolutely don't need like bite force and exact weight of your dino but can't get a marker to know where you are seems ridiculous. It should all be learn as you play, shouldn't it?

[limber hull]

weight and biteforce quite literally tell you the max health of your animal and the damage output on their bite attack, i dont see how you don't need that?

[loud rover]

I see how you could need a percentage for health, but the rest of it.. no. Should be a guessing game just like the map

[limber hull]

You can learn the map, but not knowing how fast or durable you are seems like a weird choice

[signal geode]

I guess this guy came from pot

[latent olive]

dondi DID talk about wanting a kind of map that you naturally discover as you traverse the island

something like uhhhh deeprock galactic? i think

its been a while

[loud rover]

Doing math to know exactly who you can fight, and when, and knowing how many bites it takes to kill who is fine.. but a map marker is too much. Seems silly is all.

[loud rover]

Right, a "fog of war" on the map would be cool.

[latent olive]

they took out the exact percentage of health out to prevent that

[urban flax]

Actually, doing the math isn't right, that's why the health percentage was removed, and why there isn't an indicator of the damage amount of attacks other than bite

But the biteforce indicator gotta go too, it's completely useless on almost every playable

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

making hypers admin exclusive is such a boring way to go about it

we already know hypers (and all strains) will have a very indepth and difficult unlock process and will be playable (also they die FAST so it's unlikely 15 will be able to coexist)

[loud rover]

And no I came from "Beast of Bermuda" which also has no map, buut the map is actually easy to navigate while being much bigger weirdly enough. There aren't any paths that lead you straight off a cliff as far as I know. And don't tell me there aren't any in The Isle either because I just found one and used it to kill my dino before I starved to death.. as a herbivore ffs lol. Also to the guy that said "if you run off through the woods and get lost that's on you." What else would you suggest when you are a baby dino searching for food and a large carno comes down the same path?

Anyway I'm done bitching. Just wanted to see what ya'll would say.

[signal geode]

So every1 should have access to the ultimate killing machine

[limber hull]

you're saying it like it'll just be immediately and easily accessible on the select screen lmao

no, not everyone will have access to it

[signal geode]

And what would they do to make it difficult get gen 3? Cause that Also easy to do

[limber hull]

because most people won't be able to even get one in the first place

[limber hull]

they haven't revealed the exact method but it's going to be more complicated than that

[signal geode]

Every sweat is gonna figure it out and farm hypos

[limber hull]

so the alternative is, what, no one gets to ever experience it unless they own a server or work for one?

fun

[signal geode]

Server events with hypos could be fun