general-feedback-discussion

[wooden nebula]

I’m here

[zenith sundial]

IM CRYING 😂 😂 🤣

[real galleon]

Oh okay

[limber hull]

i think we got some soon-to-be reddit residents lmao

[young gazelle]

Ur a true G @wooden nebula

[wooden agate]

how dare the moderator enforce the rules of the discord 😠

[wooden nebula]

And we got a future discord mod here^

[sturdy summit]

ngl what are you trying to achieve

[wooden nebula]

@wooden agate your true form will be achieved

[sturdy summit]

😂 😂 😂

[young gazelle]

Hahahahhah im dead

[zenith sundial]

@wooden nebula 😂 😂 🤣 Are you my lost internet twin bro hahahahah

[wooden nebula]

Lmao😂

[zenith sundial]

I was sad that servers were down... @wooden nebula you made it all worth 🫡

[wooden nebula]

I’m sad the servers down and these chair lover discord mods tryna criminalize me for that😭 get a life gang and fix the damn game💀 @zenith sundial you a G to bro don’t let these chubbs break your spirit spit all the Russian game you wanna big dawg

[sullen steeple]

Will the official servers on the isle be up tonight

[real galleon]

I'm not picking sides here, but this whole convo is fricken hilarious LMAO

[wooden nebula]

We’re looking at a 10 year hold gang gonna take as long as it took for Rex to drop

[zenith sundial]

Never brother.. Normaly i roast the mods for acting weird and kinda in the way you do it hahahaha thats why i was like my lost twin and enjoyed the show.. 🫡 Salute my brother maybe we will see eachother in Petit

[wooden nebula]

Yessir!

[sullen steeple]

A patch is gonna take as long as Rex? R we serious

[wooden nebula]

They broke ts and don’t know how😂

[limber hull]

why would you believe that at face value

lmao

[wooden nebula]

10 years was a hella exaggeration

[sullen steeple]

Well it has been a few hours and we got no news

[wooden nebula]

But idk about tonight

Me and my bro off work and planned to play tonight like 5 days ago and just as the isle devs do they broke it the one night we both don’t got work😂

[sullen steeple]

Danm sry here that

[rich bridge]

are the devs even doing anything or is there like 1 employee at this company? and could you imagine making your game worse every update? its insane

[wooden nebula]

I upvote @rich bridge

[sturdy summit]

Its past working hours, i dont know

[young gazelle]

Might be 1 🥷 working

[rich bridge]

well, that kinda their issue not our imo...

[sturdy summit]

It is our issue lol, we cant play xD

[rich bridge]

well yes that also, but you get what i mean xD they cant be so ignorant and just throw out trash updates all the time... i mean, who asked for NEW GRASS??

[sturdy summit]

I beg your pardon?

leave the grass alone

[rich bridge]

XD

[zenith sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-hammer-futurama-scruffy-gif-20750885

[rich bridge]

all im sayin is that why add new grass when there is literally alot of bugs that need fixing first 🥲

[zenith sundial]

We simple... we dont ask for much indeed... give us a dino and some combat -.-

[sturdy summit]

Well they experimented with changing qeues, which was quite broken, but it bricked even harder

[limber hull]

you'd be surprised at how many people literally did ask for new grass

[rich bridge]

thats wild

[young gazelle]

That's exactly why you need quality assurance team, and a separate environment for testing...

[limber hull]

i mean, not really, old grass was ugly and you look at it... all the time, so I can see why people wanted it changed

[zenith sundial]

i think they asked to fix the grass instead of "new"

[limber hull]

they have both

[young gazelle]

Yikes, breaking production still?

[sturdy summit]

Actually, what if I say that this was a setup to get us to join this discord for engagement

Thats why servers broke

[limber hull]

i dont think so, no

[zenith sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/jew-jews-jewish-jump-happy-gif-1531468640197245258

[young gazelle]

Its all part of the master plan

[limber hull]

i dont think they care that much about discord engagement lol

i dont think anyone cares that much about discord engagement

oh wait

[sturdy summit]

He did

[limber hull]

no i just remembered there are absolutely people who care that much

[wooden nebula]

😂😂😂

[young gazelle]

Hhhh

[wooden nebula]

@sturdy summit I love you😂😭😭😭

[sturdy summit]

lu2 fella

[wooden agate]

speak of the devil, it sounds like the servers are back

[sturdy summit]

Well, I am going to crawl back to the fields

[random sierra]

how come my migration zone never changes? making it impossible to become prime

[minor sentinel]

@merry vale there is a way, did it not work or you just didn't know you could?

[queen locust]

#general-feedback message actual good feedback but I can't upvote cause he has me blocked 💀

[fiery gorge]

A lot of people. No joke.

[merry vale]

i tried my hardest and it did not work

[plush flower]

hey guys, I think Maia's prime achievement might not be working properly!
I did all of this and still couldn't get prime. it happened more often in the hordetest. But after game updated, its the second time I try and still frail. Could you give me some help? I made sure to do everything and list it:
1 mzactive
1 mzdead
1 pzactive
1 pzdead
2 mzdead
2 pzactive
2 pzdead
3 pzdead
4 pzdead
5 pzdead
no_infertile/musclespam
perfect diet
sanct

is anybody else having the same problem with maia, or any other dino in general?

[gentle flint]

I don’t think it’s just Maia, I was playing alongside someone the other day and we both played together and went to the same areas, yet I got frail and they got prime.

And I’ve heard a couple of other cases of people doing something similar to us, or even repeating the exact same trails as they had in previous lives but failing to get prime where they had previously.
So I think it may just be buggy in general. Shame that frail is just so god awful it’s easier to die and waste the hours upon hours of your time than to continue living at that point.

[plush flower]

thanks for answering buddy! I agree, which is sad, cause spending hours doing your best to achieve something and then not achieving it and not even knowing why sucks.

[gentle flint]

Yeah, it is unfortunately. My advice would be to get to sanctuary, try to fill up as much on mushrooms as you can, and then just run all over the world haha.

If your active MZ is super far, that’s awesome because there’s a really high chance that you just run through a bunch of PZ in the process.

I’m not sure if the wounded status has anything to do with prime potential since I spent about 40% of my life with it because I just couldn’t catch a break, but definitely try to avoid it just in case? I don’t THINK it hurts your overall chances but that was one of the only things I could think of

[plush flower]

I got wounded too Citrus

as a juve in the sanctuary

and yeah, I went to the Migration too 🙁

I'm just wondering

if prime sistem is made with live percentage chances

Like every patrol zone and mz

fill up a little the percentage

that would explain why you got frail and your friend got prime

but it wouldn't be fair

Your are not the only one, who has gone through this same situation

[gentle flint]

It’s just unfortunate is all, really.

[plush flower]

yeah

I've been playing the isle aiming on reaching prime, but it kinda feels like its not worth it

[blissful atlas]

#general-feedback message

there is a reason for the colour palette changes.

[minor sentinel]

?

[wind mesa]

they're in the middle of re-doing the colour palette selections and designing new palettes

[minor sentinel]

oh yea

[eager marlin]

I love how the patch that fixes the servers broke them even more

hopefully I'm able to get into a game later

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

"good game but devs dont know how to do anything properly"

this is an oxymoron

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message
you can already estimate the amount of bleed you have by the amount of time they have been pouncing for

#general-feedback message
You dont get stunned when hit on the tip of the tail

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

you should've nested during the several hours inbetween 50%-100%

@willow prawn

[willow prawn]

Maybe, but the gameplay is totally ridiculous^^'

First of all, they should have known that I became infertile once I reached the game's goal: being fully grown.

Then, there's absolutely nothing left to do once you reach prime time? You just have to eat and kill other people? It's incredibly limited and very uninteresting. ^^'

[wooden agate]

the games goal is not reaching FG and just staying there. you hit FG at 75%, your 'prime time' is at 85%, you begin depleating after that. 100% is intended to be the end of your life.

once you hit 100%, you're very much intended to entomb. you dont have to (some animals like rex have such a great prime elder that entombing isnt really needed), but the game absolutely does not want you staying there lol.

again, you should have nested in the several hours between 50% and 100%

[willow prawn]

But we agree that the goal of the game is to survive, right? So to live as long as possible, which means possibly getting old. ^^' But once I'm old, what do I do? X'D It's a multiplayer game that lets you nest people, which is a great mechanic. And I love taking care of babies. But we can only enjoy that for a limited time? I'm sorry, but I find that ridiculous. ^^'

[wooden agate]

you entomb once you get old. thats the point.

[willow prawn]

but it's not infinite XD

[wooden agate]

yeah, thats intentional

[willow prawn]

it's really fun XD

[wooden agate]

you're more than welcome to find unofficials without the elder system

but this is the gameplay loop of the game that we've been told about for years.

you have 7+ hours to nest between 50%-100%. you hit "FG" at 75%, so even if you wanted to wait until you were FG, you still had several hours to begin nesting.

and frankly, i dont think id want a prime elder rex popping out several babies every hour for as long as it wants. that sounds like hell on the ecosystem

[willow prawn]

I totally understand that, I hadn't thought of that, and you're right about that.

I was just focused on the fact that I wanted to Nest, but I was waiting until I was old enough to have the courage to move around and meet other Rexes for that. And I thought it was sad to have missed the window because I didn't know there was one :3

Besides, the ecosystem isn't perfect right now, and that's precisely why unofficial servers exist. So I don't know... I still think it's a shame to limit players who want to roleplay and chill, when there are so many other bigger problems to deal with (mixpacks and hackers). Besides, I've managed to never kill any players with my Rex; I've always stayed with deer and boars, so it's possible to be friendly XD I understand, but I'm very conflicted^^

[wooden agate]

and you have more than enough time to nest, its just not a forever thing now. if you want to nest, you're going to have to take some risk and go out and find a rex to nest with (or, alternatively, just get the solo nesting mutation)

also, its nice that you lived off deer and boar but the chances of every single (buffed) offspring you produce also doing as much later in life is criminally low. the ecosystem not being perfect at the moment is not a reason to mess it up even more with apexes nesting 24/7.

ever since the nesting age was brought down to 50%, i genuinely dont see issue with limited nesting to 50-99% considering how much time is inbetween those %'s for most playables. there are some obvious, smaller playables that will need more time but we know they're getting additions and changes to ensure they have ways to have enough time to nest and do everything they wanna do within their life.

[wooden agate]

@nocturne relic all animals are going to have their color selection redone, they're being reduced as a whole to be expanded on later with the Theme system.

also, a note on your mention about bright colors... bright colors on any large animal is exceedingly rare. yes its true that many insects, reptiles, and birds often have bright colors but they're also usually some of the smallest of the small (or, even when they are large, they are no where near the size of the animals we have in game). big animals just dont get colorful like that

[eager hatch]

I need urgent help, I shut down my pc 2 times and the game won't close at all, neither closing steam, neither closing it with task manager

[wooden agate]

try this ^^

[eager hatch]

Already did this and won't work

[eager hatch]

tried multiple times and shut down my pc 2 times, 2 times trying this EAC way but nothingf

[hardy vine]

Delete the game then redownload it

[wooden agate]

#🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 may be able to help more. i havent personally ran into the issue so im not sure the exact ways of fixing it

[eager hatch]

cant unistall it with steam , it's running XD

[eager hatch]

i'll try there

[hardy vine]

Hold the power button on your pc to hard restart it

[wintry cipher]

I get what the devs are aiming for, but I will admit the act of removing things and then waiting months to add in the new stuff after just feels like it hinders the experience more than anything.

Examples:

Colors could have been left alone until the new ones were in.

Troodon and herra juveniles could have not been slowed down until rats/small AI were in for them to hunt.

Now you just have players with less customization, and players struggling to play the dinosaurs they like.

Remove the old stuff when you are putting the new stuff in; then players get excited about the changes and don't notice any losses. By removing things and waiting for months, it does nothing for the experience.

[glad slate]

The colors they removed are very unnatural. The skins some players were making with them were breaking the game design

[wooden agate]

i mean, the color system is being reworked to avoid people creating god awful combinations.

if they dont want bright red omnis with bright blue male displays and grey markings, removing those options are fine while we wait for the updated color system

unironically ive enjoyed seeing the animals actually all look like the same species, instead of having Bloodstone The Omniraptor OC running circles around me

[glad slate]

yep

[wooden agate]

also hasnt herrera's juvenile always been rather slow?

i can agree on the troodon part though. while it did need a pretty hefty speed nerf (running around at 40kph while smaller than grass was almost nausating, plus looked somewhat unnatural) i think they went a bit too far

[pliant elm]

They've removed pretty much all the colors, Now all that's left is brown and greenish-brown. Nature also has extremely colorful animals, so that argument doesn't hold

[wooden agate]

find me a multi ton animal thats extremely colorful, or frankly even a 400kg+ predator with bright colors

[pliant elm]

We still don't know exactly what colors the dinosaurs were, so it's impossible to guess

[glad slate]

Animals with different niches have different palletes

[wooden agate]

i mean today, living right now

[pliant elm]

The largest predators today have more saturated colors

[wooden agate]

large animals flat out just dont get extremely colorful like that. usually bright colors are reserved for animals that may need it for self defense against much larger things and/or for sexual dimorphism (which we still have in game via male display)

[pliant elm]

But it also depends on where they live

[latent olive]

technically a polar bear has bright colouring

[glad slate]

If going into evolution theory colors of a moose and of a maia would be the same if they had a (likely) similar niche
A maia with colors of a paradise bird would die because it would work like rifle sight

[pliant elm]

I'm not talking about bright colors. They removed them all. Creating a beautiful and unique skin is impossible, since now everyone practically has the same skin

Skins are useless now

[wooden agate]

arent they black, with the white coming from the light reflecting off snow and interacting with their hairs lol

[latent olive]

I was thinking about that but I thought it would be a good idea to ignore science like everybody else

[wooden agate]

you can still create relatively unique skins without having access to the entire rainbow, and again it'll just be expanded later down the road (likely in the next HT)

the colors we have now are fine for what they intend to do. limit the color selection heavily to avoid bad combinations of colors

it fixes the problems the devs had with the color system while still allowing the player base some level of customization that will only be expanded upon in the future

[glad slate]

I think it would be better if the devs made more variations of patterns than to return the rainbow
if people are so crazy about uniqueness

[wooden agate]

im always more down for patterns in addition to the theme system

im still hoping for unlockable patterns being connected to steam achievements

[glad slate]

Also reworking existing ones on some dinos, like c on cera. It's kinda weird

[glad slate]

Oh yeah :0

[wintry cipher]

Admittedly this is coming from a teno player and we already had limited options as it was. So losing half of teno's colors was just a kick in the teeth let alone other animals.

[glad slate]

Well on teno there really could be a few more

But ones which are close to the environment

[flint vortex]

by the way didnt work, i just restarted and went to bed

[stray nest]

You wait for F2 for hour or so to work, you play one F2, exit it and F2 has again cooldown xD Dondi quality

[vernal jacinth]

@acoustic wraith that’s already the point of the admins now

[acoustic wraith]

yea but no offense and with all do respect it's far few and in-between a bunch of people i play with actively in game the come up onto hackers often and they will ping you guys i understand you guys have obligations outside of just securing the servers from cheaters but if we could have just a branch of people that fight back at any given time i'm trying to think of this in a more constructive way so that would relieve you guys from worrying about that and you guys could focus more on other things?

[vernal jacinth]

Why you saying you guys???

[acoustic wraith]

well their are more than one of you aren't their?

[vernal jacinth]

Ummm hun. Check my name color. Caaauuuuse

[icy lion]

The application form is in #rules-and-info. I don't see any reports in your message history

[acoustic wraith]

well i am specifically just saying that from my point of view i don't think the hackers are really being dealt with at a great rate not trying to be rude or your typical isle hater because i love this game and i would like to see it improve and i would like to help that if i can.

[acoustic wraith]

i would love to apply but i don't feel like i have enough time to to give to this community like i feel like this community deserves alot and i just feel like personally i don't have the time that i would like to give to this community

[vernal jacinth]

A lot of people would like to see improvements

[acoustic wraith]

agreed that's why I'm sharing my opinion to see if i can take some constructive criticism is all and maybe evolve from it.

[plush rune]

anyone have this bug? All servers spawen the exact same dino

[full fox]

@livid ember @fossil stirrup i couldn't agree more, as someone who has recently been loving trike, its extremley disapotinting that rex can just crush your head, stun you and potentially even get a leg fracture ON YOUR HEAD. Spar is completley rex favored even if a trike knows what its doing rex can easily spam its stuns faster than a trike can enter defensive. I want more people talking about this so hopefully balance can be done for the apex tiers.

[hidden mist]

Rex can also just... Teleport to the sides of Trike in sparring with A-D and some additional key I dont remember iirc,

[forest quartz]

so can trike

[brittle orchid]

My 3.7 Allo just died to an 1.5 ton Rex. How is that possible that he’s pin is doing so much damage already and that he even can pin me? Allo is already so unflexible like com on

[stray nest]

If you died with 3.7 allo to 1.5 rex and he pinned you, either you were out of stam or your HP was very low, not sure about HP possibility tho

[tropic pewter]

@vapid basalt #general-feedback message
How much did your FPS change after that?

[mortal parrot]

@blissful lotus This is a hardcore survival game, that's the point of a Hardcore survival game

You're suppose to lose everything when you die, that's how Hardcore works

Unless you entomb

[blissful lotus]

so do you just not react if you die after a long time of grinding because you fall of a cliff you didn't see?

[mortal parrot]

I get annoyed depending on how I die, but I get over it and try again

This game is hardcore survival, you're not suppose to fight just to fight, gotta treat it like actual survival

[blissful lotus]

In the meantime growing is pretty boring sometimes which is why its annoying. You might be like, "then why play this game". my response is that its the only dinosaur game out there that is this good.

[foggy field]

Why are people so agaist making dibble 36km/h....

[mortal parrot]

I get that, the game should 100% add more stuff to make it more interesting like sparring is a cool thing that Trike and Dibble has to help pass time

[foggy field]

Rex just makes dibble and trike be walking meatbags, ther main defense is ignored

[blissful lotus]

Yeah so you don't die for nothing and rage yk

[wind mesa]

@vapid basalt #general-feedback message i feel like the issue is related to that lovely low FPS and not the render distance of the grass...

[mortal parrot]

Depends on how I die, like if I die to a bug or Desync I get irritated, if I fall off a cliff then honestly that is 100% on me

[pliant elm]

Some people think that giving Dibble the speed he already had will make him invincible and immortal

Primarily some who are asking for a buff to Allo

[foggy field]

Yup i know this guys, they are only scared for allosaurus, but like allo can easily out run a dibble is not a issue at all jesus

[wooden agate]

@whole lintel #general-feedback message Why would we make rexes already extremely favorable diet even more favorable?

Rexes are gonna fight regardless of if theyre on each others diet, because they already do lol. Cannibalism just leads to an easier life for animals for the most part.

[pliant elm]

Yes, it's quite funny. Dibble having that speed will only improve his situation against Sub Rex and Rex's Ambush,it will remain the same against the rest of the roster

[whole lintel]

Are official servers down? I keep getting told servers full or I get disconnected??

[foggy field]

Buffing dibbles speed and nerfing rex ambush speed a bit would solve manny issues

[whole lintel]

@wooden agate Balance.

Dude I can't join any servers what is happening??

[wooden agate]

... so making rex growth easier is balance?

[whole lintel]

No, I see your point.

Have you ever had issues like this where you can't join?

[wooden agate]

its likely the servers having a bit of a hiccup

[whole lintel]

Gotcha, ok I'll just give it a little. Thanks!

[pliant elm]

Rex has all the AIs in his diet. Do you want something more easier than that?

[wooden agate]

it may last until Monday when devs get back (most generally dont work on Weekends), but then again keep an eye out on #announcements just incase :p

[whole lintel]

No we were discussing rexes being apart of the rex diet @pliant elm

Noooooo I need to feed my addiction

[pliant elm]

Why does Rex need this

[whole lintel]

@wooden agate It doesn't necessarily - I was just making a suggestion but was quick countered with @wooden agate info.

It'd making growing rexes easier. Instead of harder.

My idea was they'd be hunt more but then I didn't think about the gains of the hunt

hunted*

[wooden agate]

its understandable at a basic level. it does lead to more minor competition in the enviornment to some degree

but it just leads to megapacks in the end, sustaining themselves off their fallen team mates and such

[whole lintel]

TRUEEE

I didn't not even think about that possibility

[wooden agate]

we saw what happens when Cannibalism is available all willy nilly on HT with the mutation being unlocked and... it is not fun LOL

[whole lintel]

LOL

[wooden agate]

and tbf that mutation is still unlocked to my great dismay

[whole lintel]

Yes, that was the root of my whole idea. That mutation is absurd.

[wooden agate]

i think it works fine when locked with some pretty extensive requirements.

plus, it very well may be getting some devious little changes soon enough. Don seemed to very much like the idea of the Cannibalism mutation removing everything from your diet, and only allowing you to gain nutrition from your own species

(other than organs, id assume)

[whole lintel]

OMG

That would be perfect

[raw hazel]

@sullen pawn Petits Pieds I know has this feature to some extent. But you prob already know that.

[leaden pivot]

so when the hell is the plant bug being fixed. literally cant eat food as a steg.

[boreal sparrow]

@blissful lotus sounds like you should try playing a deathmatch server

[grim hull]

they need to fix being pounced making you unable to run, like ASAP

[foggy field]

Its not a bug its intended

[grim hull]

what gave you the impression that its intended😂

[wind mesa]

having a big fat dino ontop of you will make it harder to walk

[foggy field]

Exactly

[wooden agate]

been a thing for a pretty long time

[grim hull]

not that you buffoons lol

[wind mesa]

if the dino is big enough you will only be able to walk

if thats what you mean.

[foggy field]

Yeah

[wind mesa]

otherwise you should perhaps explain a bit more instead of going straight to insults 👀

[grim hull]

maybe i wasnt specific enough, the bug where you have to relog when you get pounced and are now unable to run

[wind mesa]

ohhh yeah that one, i honestly have no idea why that one happens. ive seen it happen to troods and raptors alike but not allos

i assume the game doesnt properly register when the pouncing ends

[grim hull]

i play omni and troo a lot, and it happens commonly

[wind mesa]

when playing troo i see it happen most when both people are pouncing at the same time

[grim hull]

we need more attention on that bug cause its life ending most of the time

and its a new bug that came with the rex update

[foggy field]

Oh yeah this awfull thing needs fixing asap

[stray elbow]

Still fatal error

[swift dagger]

what do i have to do to joni a server? they don't look full and everytime i join it says server is full

[daring talon]

#general-feedback message

if rex didnt have perfect diet available through ai and it didnt rain so much that you could sit on a beach with reabsoprtion and eat turtles to full adult it wouldnt be as common

[minor sentinel]

#general-feedback message to be far, it been 2.7 days since this so yeah.

[dim smelt]

is there an unstuck button?

[vernal jacinth]

/unstuck

[minor sentinel]

yes, you just need to go in the games-chat and type /unstuck

[wind mesa]

@queen saddle #general-feedback message this does need to be fixed but also remember that deino does get water back by swimming in water as well, so going into the water will remove the red water damage.

[queen saddle]

I don't think fish are supposed to fly above the ground

@wind mesa I did not notice that thanks.

[junior nymph]

@tired quest change it from Deinonychus to deinosuchus lol

also most likely that growth size to 50 is for the big boy bary so it can hunt deinos

[tired quest]

I don’t know… the current growth curve for Deino feels really weird to me.
There’s basically no ambush playstyle anymore.

You’re just struggling for couple hours to reach a decent weight so you don’t get one tap by most of the roster (around 500 kg).
then suddenly your weight balloons up.,because of that, you don’t really have time to stay still and wait for prey, so you end up roaming everywhere and killing any Deino you see—since they can’t escape from you anyway

and then is the frail / prime part kicks in

[junior nymph]

maybe it has something to do with the deino rework that should be coming soon

like maybe deino can do some sort of spear fishing

[tired quest]

ppl here gonna be real mad about the idea deino can eat ai

[junior nymph]

eh

its more of a issue rn

as theres nothing to kill deino

once bary and austro come in along with spino later I dont think that will matter

as most likely all of them will have some sort of fishing mechanic

@lost basalt no shadows or clouds could become an issue but I do see where you are coming from

[tired quest]

I think fish spawning out of nowhere feels kind of lazy on the devs’ part.
Instead, AI should be spread more evenly across the map, with hotspots like deep lakes and swamps naturally having higher fish populations

giving more reason for the big guy to stay in these area instead of camping in ponds

[lost basalt]

Do you think it's even possible to do smth for the people with lower end pcs on UE5??

[junior nymph]

yes, but also it gets to the point of where its like maybe you upgrade

and I get people dont sometimes have the money to do that but

[junior nymph]

fish spawning out of nowhere is honestly quite smart

you dont get the issues with ever increasing ai causing strain to the servers

also I do reckon there should be somesort of overfishing mechanic

that could be cool and a way to stop people from just sitting holding right click

[tired quest]

that would be nice

[hasty cove]

Allo has a crazy turn radius rn and it only kinda slows down when it hits adult

[pliant elm]

These people want Allo to have Omni turn radius, it's hilarious xd

[hasty cove]

allo has a better turn then omni rn

if you stand still and turn you go so fast

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message
If a 3.7t allo loses to a 1.5t rex its a massive skillissue, cause the allo can just press 1 button to pin him

#general-feedback message
#general-feedback message
you can play on servers with increased growth rate

#general-feedback message
Thats way too long

[junior nymph]

#general-feedback message like this post as they are going to fix it next patch lmao

[serene jasper]

Hey guys, evrima has still same DMG counting system Your weight / oponent weight * bite force? or devs change it?

[urban flax]

No
All attacks deal fixed damage regardless of opponent weight

[serene jasper]

and what about trodons , when he has 3.stage purple his dmg stack as long as pouncing or there is something diffrent?

[urban flax]

Troodon only deals damage once upon pouncing the target, staying latched on does nothing
With max venom iirc that damage is about 100 or 150

[serene jasper]

thank you for info 🙂

[cosmic thorn]

Isn't Troodon venom fog disabled at the moment? I'm not sure what Rick in general feedback means.

If it's the damage/bleed, I think he caught some friendly fire from his mate next to him and thought the Troodon did that.

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message

#general-feedback message @whole lintel do you realize the implications of this? A huge, very popular carnivore that is also the biggest and capable of eating its own? Overpopulation would never be bad

It's almost as if people learned nothing from cera being everywhere before rex

[paper galleon]

???? XD

[narrow cypress]

Without pounce that is a sh1t mechanic you can still win it , the thing it is true that rex turns 4x times better than allo

[pliant elm]

Omni also turn very well when stationary, so no. But there are some people who really want Allo to have a turn like Omni and also want it to run at 40km/h. They forget that the Allo weighs 2.5t-3.6t, They treat Allo as if it weighs 500kg to have that speed and turn...

[narrow cypress]

Rex enters the chat …..

[narrow cypress]

I remind you that a 12 t is one of the dinos with best turn

[wooden agate]

bubulblu i have maybe terrible news

well nvm i cant find it anymore

[pliant elm]

One dino being poorly made in one aspect doesn't mean another should be the same...

[wooden agate]

oh here we go.

look at the chat :)

[pliant elm]

Rex's turn is overpowered, and that's is reason for a nerf, not a buff to allo xd

[wooden agate]

true and factual

[limber hull]

i love how allo players managed to inherit the perpetual victim complex from their omni main ancestors

evolution is incredible

[narrow cypress]

i am not saying allos should have more turn but your argument is based is the weight so ..... It's contradictory, that the second dino with the best turn has 12 t

[pliant elm]

What is contradictory considering I said Rex needs a nerf to the turn radius?

[narrow cypress]

needs a lot xd , i mean he should turn more or less like allo

[honest helm]

I need some reply on that to speak abt it

The current state of the official servers is honestly insane. It doesn’t matter which server you join — the moment you start growing anything big, you can be 100% sure that cheaters are everywhere. It’s not a possibility, it’s a guarantee.

They hunt you across the entire map. No matter where you go, you’re not safe. You can’t hide, you can’t avoid them, and you can’t outplay them. Using ESP, they always know exactly where you are.

On top of that, you can’t even survive naturally anymore. There is no food. The entire server feels empty because everything gets killed nonstop. Normal players die over and over again, either to cheaters directly or because there’s simply nothing left to eat.

Crashes make it even worse. When normal players crash, cheaters instantly find and kill them. When cheaters crash, they have entire groups protecting their bodies and saving their friends.

This has reached a point where even in a large group of friends, this is the only thing we talk about. Growing big dinosaurs on officials no longer feels challenging or fun — it feels pointless.

Because of that, if we don’t want to wait indefinitely for the developers to fix this, I strongly recommend for everyone go unofficials. Allo packs are too slow and will starve because cheaters wipe everything. Crocs at least give us control over water — once you outnumber them.

groups can also run simpler packs like Ceratosaurus or pachys, but not much fun. Trying to grow rexes to fight cheaters is possible, but it’s a massive long-term commitment. One death is devastating, especially with fatal errors, and it would require everyone to invest a huge amount of time.

only spoke abt officials.

I need some reply on that to speak abt it

[urban flax]

I'm actually in favor of inconsistent damage
It just depends on what it's based on

[vernal jacinth]

@random hinge check pins in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
@lofty osprey
#general-feedback is only for feedback and can’t help you. Plus we can’t chat in there or admins will give you guys warnings.

[lofty osprey]

Thanks, I looked but I dont see any help on the my issue though?

[honest helm]

nice eu2 getting killed by cheater maia clan

[vernal jacinth]

You wanna go to #evrima-eu and follow the pinned messages on how to report them

@oblique onyx you can look for a team in the server chats. Feedback channels aren’t meant for that sort of thing.

[normal shuttle]

giga should get a pounce and be the next one to complete the cycle

[pliant elm]

Shant too

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

i think its important to note that the reason speed felt better back then in the sub adult stage isnt because current speed is bad or that speed was good, but because the speed made sub adults insane back then. does no one remember 60kph carno?

outside of a few very noticeable examples (mainly diablo, rex, juvie troo) the speed in the game is relatively fine when it comes to balancing id say?

[vernal jacinth]

<@&933486433342222376>

[vernal jacinth]

@vernal cliff feedback channels aren’t for unstucks or hacker reports. Follow the pins in your servers chat.

[vernal cliff]

Wouldn't it just be easier to tell me where to report it instead of saying pins in your server chat? What is "my server"?

[vernal jacinth]

What server are you playing on?

[vernal cliff]

US 1 but I don't see US 1

[vernal jacinth]

What’s another name for the US hun?

[vernal cliff]

You try to pretend like common sense is a thing for this server but don't realize that this isn't regarding a specific server, it's regarding a map problem, which applies to all servers. It's not as obvious and you like to pretend, AFTER you've already been explained all of this.

[wise rune]

#evrima-na

[covert tiger]

Gotta balance out the anti omni / anti allo / anti pounce cult thats infected the discord

Literally everyone except omnis or allos has been playing victim complex since this update
Constant whining with little to no learning / adaptation
Every dino has its strengths and weaknesses, but ppl be playing with 2024 mentality

[urban flax]

Whats 2024 mentality

[covert tiger]

The two biggest examples are bleed, and walking around in dangerous popular areas with a "hehe I'm immune to the rest of the roster" mentality.

Dying to bleed used to be almost non-existent a year or so ago. Now that it's actually sometimes happening, people are shocked and calling it OP.
Like bro, there's a dozen things that affect bleeding, including your diet, mutations, mud pits, how much you ran, and your innate bleed resistance.
But no, rather than learning, I guess it's just easier to say allo has too much bleed (it's been nerfed quite a bit btw)

[tepid dune]

While whinning, dumbery decisions, a fair share of f-around and finda out and non-constructive criticism will always exist, i don't think it's fair to say pouncers right now are in a good spot (for the victim in this case). it's a make or break mechanic for sure. Omnis spent more than a year with a mechanic that was an "fast travel to the menu screen" but right now it's a "I win and you can't do stuff". Bucking needs another overhaul and pounce needs to more consistent. and imo Allo need a new mechanic, pounce looks awful on anything it doesn't automatically pin or really big targets.

[daring talon]

@vernal jacinth why not

[vernal jacinth]

You want no mixpacking then play unofficials with rules. Otherwise having admins start banning players just for mixpacking takes their eyes away from the hackers. Letting hackers get away, creating more work for the admins and you start making players mad to the point they won’t play the game.

[quasi scroll]

A mechanic to help prevent mix packing would be more effective than banning them for the reasons stated above. Unofficials that want mix packing could have the option to turn that mechanic off. The problem is making a mechanic that works and doesn’t inhibit player freedoms to much

[vernal jacinth]

That’s already something the devs are working on for mixpackers. So just wash and repeat is what’s being said

[wheat laurel]

good omni players know that omni's are a glass cannon and we still pick it because its fun most good raptor players are now allo players because we know how to bait swings and runs people stamina out.

a lot of raptor players are just good players. and people don't know how to react to all the good raptor players who were one shot with a pretty much everything
now going to allo.

[wheat laurel]

as for mixpacks due to the amount of stomach/hunger drop it's getting harder to feed those mega packs. the dibble ai was one of the main reasons for the mega packs with the trikes rexes etc. now with dibble ai and the prime system in the main progress it's now a lot harder for mixpacks to maintain their stronghold.

[vernal jacinth]

Then they just need to not give us big AI yet

[daring talon]

can you not just do both

and mixpacking also makes players mad enough to just not play the game.

[vernal jacinth]

Sure. Have fun on unofficials OR just avoid the packs. 👍🏻 It’s easy to move around the map and people are allowed to vote how they want. You calling out one person for a vote just makes you seem….weird.

[mystic trout]

@mystic trout We expect posts in the feedback channels to be constructive and descriptive. Your post failed to comply and was removed........ i expect that the game get fixed and ? it not get changed

[rich bridge]

5,3gb for some highlights, thats insane

[mystic trout]

😄 so again no fixes ? hahahhaha

[rich bridge]

nope, cant excpect them to fix stuff anymore xD

[mystic trout]

i gues so

[rich bridge]

they only keep braking stuff

[mystic trout]

yeaaaa, i started to have fun as pachy. NOT ANYMORE, cuase plants are broken 😄

what a great gaming experience this game is, isnt it ?

[rich bridge]

must be the INSANE new grass we got, that overlaps the plants or something, idk how they can be so good at braking stuff honestly 😂

[lofty osprey]

anyone else having issues with the game right now where their cpu is overheating? even with lowered graphics??? its crazy because i can play maxed oput settings on cyberpunk with my 9070xt and 7800x3d cpu. But since the jan patch its my AIO not handling the constant temp increases in my cpu (h150 corsair icue link) as the coolant temp hitting 50 degrees and its shutting down due to safety.

[daring talon]

oh sorry, did asking the first person to negatively respond why they disagree in a polite manner offend you in some way? If so, please, keep it to yourself and remain civil with those who have been nothing but civil with you.

unofficials all have garbage rulesets in one way or another, like body down, no herbi aggro, or they still suffer from mixpacking or give free grows (lame)

telling me to simply "Avoid them" in the game where combat is the only entertaining portion (no, sitting on the beach eating turtles/grass isnt fun), and where seemingly over 1/2 the server is mixpacking, if not more (about 2/3s of the players i run into that arent fresh spawn babies are mixing) is not a good answer either.

[vernal jacinth]

You can just leave me alone now. At this point you’re just harassing me over a simple vote.

[daring talon]

Asking you a question and responding to your snark is not harrassment. but yea. sure. move on.

[vernal jacinth]

You too.0

[pliant wadi]

anyone got any idea how to close the game when not even turning off pc works?

[distant shale]

Revert update

[covert tiger]

100% agreed

Fix pounce bugs / random pounce self stuns
Buff bucking

Then we good

[icy lion]

@flat onyx Are you 75% grown or more?

[flat onyx]

oh yeah, is it a new feature?

[icy lion]

Yep, so you have longer to play as an adult/elder

[flat onyx]

ohhh that makes sense, thank you for clarifying

[dark ether]

Is something broken with the update I keep getting a version error after the update?

[subtle swan]

Windows server build broken on some unofficial servers. IDK if it's affecting officials.

[dark ether]

Oki

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message
I dont think the speed boost is a problem, cause you will eventually be slower than a 75% adult dino anyways , even as a prime elder.
The problem with the speed mutations, is that you would keep them forever

[narrow cypress]

40 kmh from rex , for me is a big problem that broke all game balance and does that the rest cant do nothing

[pliant elm]

It doesn't matter if it's temporary. A Prime is stronger and heavier than a normal adult and still has to be faster?

This speed buff and nerf also makes the gameplay monotonous, since you can't enjoy the dino you've grown for hours because it becomes useless at 100% And even more so if it's frail

You are forced to entomb

If you want to have at least a little fun (unless you're playing as a Rex xd)

[golden horizon]

idk where u have gotten those stats from, but fg rex can only run 29 and peak prime rex is 33.7

[pliant elm]

40km with ambush

Adult ambush is 35km and Prime is 40km

[golden horizon]

where have u gotten the 40 from ?

not seen anywhere its 40

at most peak prime ambush is 38 for 15 sec with a 90 sec cooldown

rex is ambush predator, it needs the ambush speed to catch its prey

[pliant elm]

Ambush gives a 25% speed boost

[narrow cypress]

yep but he should kill his niche not all the rooster xdddd

[golden horizon]

but he doesnt tho

[pliant elm]

25% of 33 is 7. So 7 + 33 = 40

[golden horizon]

he can only catch stego and trikes, and maybe dibbles, if they dont pay attention

But imo if u dont pay attention, its the survival of the fittest

[narrow cypress]

at prime 12t ?? i can tell you he can kill everything , almost catchs me running at 39.8

[pliant elm]

Allos, Ceratos, Tenos, Hypsi...

That's without even considering if it's a 100% that has a speed nerf.

[golden horizon]

if u run in a straight line rex wont catch you, if you dont let him get close

i main cera and i always manage to run away from rexes

[narrow cypress]

running at 40? sure

[golden horizon]

u just have watch your surroundings and listen for heavy footstomps

[pliant elm]

You were lucky

[golden horizon]

brother, why u keep ignore that it only has it for 15 sec

[pliant elm]

The issue here is that there's no way a 12-ton animal can run at 40km/h

[golden horizon]

its not a big problem

[pliant elm]

He is

[golden horizon]

nope he is not

[narrow cypress]

told that to the dibbles , allos and ceras

lost 4 hours of his life because a 12 t run faster than you

[golden horizon]

if u are any of those dinos, and u let a rex come near you, shouldnt you get eaten then ?

[pliant elm]

If a Prime Rex sees a dibble, he is dead, because rex is 6 km faster

Rex doesn't need to ambush when he can just go into the open and use his speed boost without worrying about anything

[golden horizon]

dibble is 37.8

[pliant elm]

34

[pliant elm]

34 ☝️

[golden horizon]

then rex is only 29

[narrow cypress]

so your solution is giving rex every tool to kill everything , i mean the dino with best agility with 12 t and able to run 40 kmh i mean it is incredible unbalance

[pliant elm]

36 km with ambush

[golden horizon]

for 15 sec

why yall acting like if a rex sees you, you are dead

just keep distance to it, if you arent playing a trike or stego

[pliant elm]

For 15 seconds you are able to surpass something 3x Lighter in speed, Without even needing to do a proper ambush, like Herrera or Deino

And with Prime you are able to surpass something 4-5x lighter

[golden horizon]

34.8

ive gotten from doqi's rex guide

[pliant elm]

I don't understand how some people agree that you should get faster while also getting stronger and heavier xd

[golden horizon]

u cant just keep pulling randoms numbers out, please atleast say where you have gotten it from

where have u seen 36 for 75% rex from ?

[narrow cypress]

42 persons thinks like you @pliant elm

[pliant elm]

These aren't random numbers. They're basic calculations

[golden horizon]

i agree with you, rex cant run 40

[golden horizon]

Whats ure source ?

its random numbers if u dont tell me where u have gotten them from

this is how easily misinformation gets spread

[valid flame]

So I put in gen feedback, respectfully and clearly asking if the current bushes bug will be fixed, and someone deleted it...
Outstanding

[drifting mulch]

I hear you bro dw. Regardless of the actual speed numbers they act like a Rex who spent 9 hours growing to get to its sub-adult phase should have zero tools to kill anything ever unless the target is blind and deaf.

You're right, if youre playing a smaller dino its on you to be more aware when someone who put more time in on a larger dino is around. And its entirely possible to do so but these people just hate Rex

[icy lion]

#general-feedback message

#general-feedback is not a question channel nor a bug reporting channel

[pliant elm]

Kouga. Unless they've reduced the ambush percentage, it's still 25% As mentioned in videos about Hordtest

[golden horizon]

i dont even play rex myself, but acting like rex can catch and kill anything is absurd

[golden horizon]

u have link to video ?

[drifting mulch]

likewise, i cba spending all that time to grow since you can't participate till 50% anyways

[pliant elm]

It's on his channel

[normal jasper]

34.5 actually

[valid flame]

Understood 👍
I will no longer ask questions about the current state of the game or report any issues in a channel marked "feedback".
Thank you for clarifying

[golden horizon]

great...

i wasnt aware it was on his channel

[drifting mulch]

"I googled it"

[icy lion]

You can ask questions in #isle-discussion and report issues in #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[pliant elm]

You can go see it if you want, He posts quite a lot about it and other thins, like Omni pounce damage and bleed bug

[golden horizon]

yes lmk just go through all his video to find that number

[normal jasper]

But if I say fix fatal error Is that not feedback

[pliant elm]

Yes. Good luck

[icy lion]

No, that's not constructive, descriptive, or helpful in finding the issue at all, use #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[normal jasper]

Oh okayyy

[drifting mulch]

its your argument being made, YOU have to provide the evidence. He provided the chart that supported his argument. Its not his responsibility to search for something that proves your point. Your statement is just an opinion if your arent willing to back it up with actual tangable evidence

[normal jasper]

@icy lion I really hate fatal errors I lost my Rex because of it

I get really sad when I fatal errors and it happen a lot

[golden horizon]

this was from 8 days ago with patch 0.21.323

[normal jasper]

Is there anything I can do about it

[pliant elm]

He posted about Dibble, not about Rex ambush

[normal jasper]

Rex ambush is balanced @pliant elm

Well adult Rex ambush speed is. Not peak prime Rex

[pliant elm]

Yes. Adult is

[normal jasper]

Yeah

[pliant elm]

Prime not

[normal jasper]

Yeah that what I say

[drifting mulch]

the chart has all the herbis and carnivores and rex is at the bottom? whats your point?

[normal jasper]

Prime can go 40kmh

[pliant elm]

Prime should run slower than adult in normal run and ambush

[normal jasper]

Not really it should be the same speed imo

[golden horizon]

i wish somebody will give me where they got the 40 kmh from

[normal jasper]

88% Rex base speed is 33-34kmh and with ambush it go up to 40kmh

[pliant elm]

It doesn't mention the speed of the Ambush...

[golden horizon]

source?

[normal jasper]

Do you want a screen shot of peak prime Rex speed

[golden horizon]

just anything that proves rex can run 40 with ambush. Im not saying u are wrong but it would be nice if you had some evidence

i dont play rex, and i stay far away from them ingame

like any small-mid tier dinos should

if they dont wanna get eaten

[normal jasper]

Yeah I don’t have proof but I can show you base speed stats. Base speed is 33-34kmh and murder sprint gives you another 6kmh of speed for example adult Rex 29kmh run up to 34kmh with ambush so prime Rex 33-34kmh run up to 40kmh with ambush

[golden horizon]

i remember it as it can run only 38 with ambush

Thats why im confused

[drifting mulch]

Aside from the speed number I dont understand why you're dying on the hill that a PRIME REX which is only prime for a period of time before being full, shouldn't be faster than a dibble which is likely the most ill equipped dino to take on a rex since its a ceratopsian with less defense than a trike and a bit more speed

[golden horizon]

allo, teno and cera can easily outrun rex. The only time u would die to rex ambush, is if you dont pay attention to your surroundings

[drifting mulch]

Exactly, when you get ambushed. Thats the name of the game

[golden horizon]

its the same when you drink at a pond, and a deino grabs you. Some dinos are ambush predators, its just their design

[lime nexus]

plants bug

[icy lion]

#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[golden horizon]

try enable the interaction assist setting

[golden horizon]

This is why we need evidence...

This was from 8 days ago, and here Kouga says 20% not 25%

and it also fits well with 75% rex ambush being 29x1.2=34.8

[fiery kayak]

@subtle swan the way i was JUST about to comment this

[subtle swan]

https://tenor.com/view/big-head-little-arms-trex-tyrannosaurus-dinosaur-gif-3412715

T-rex would not leave one scrap of its kills let's be honest.

[golden horizon]

this means that rex at 87.5% prime elder growth can hit 40 kmh, but it can only do that for short period of time, and not to mention most people that are running around as rexes are probably 100% prime elders, and their ambush speed only goes up to 27.9x1.2=33.48

I think its fine diffrent dinos have a short peak moment, where they are both strong and fast, as long as they dont keep their speed and biteforce forever, which they dont in the current system

[pliant elm]

Oh, my bad. I must have confused it with something else then. But it's still the same, Rex Prime still reaches 40km/h

That, for something weighing 12 tons, even if temporary, shouldn't happen

[sonic jolt]

41.75

[raven summit]

allo tail needs more wiggle

[foggy field]

The issue is the prime rex not the adult

Prime rex can reach 40km+

[tiny plover]

its hell

[tiny plover]

THATS WHAT IM SAYINNNNGGG

[austere roost]

replay re bug?

[golden horizon]

At 87.5% yes, it can reach 40 km/hr with ambush for 15 sec with a 90 sec cooldown

But again, the rex will only be able to catch prey that is small to mid tier, if its doesnt pay attention to the surroundings

if u let rex get close to you, ofcourse it will kill

its apex, so it needs to be strong

[frigid mica]

I can see u lack of knowlage about rex in facts rex doesn't run that fast its main hunting trick is chasing it's prey for so so long till they exhausted to be honest 12 tons of dino cannot run that fast

[golden horizon]

Yes rex can run 40 km/hr at 87.5% prime elder stage if it uses ambush for 15 sec. If you're talking about irl, then i dont refer to real life, but ingame

[foggy field]

He can get you at that speed even in the open.

Prime should get no speed boosts

[frigid mica]

i meant in real but not only for that as a game wise still unbalanced cuz there is simple math if it's fast then its weak but can run can avoid if its big and strong then slow thats the balance of almost every game

for example as a cera slower weaker, cant run, cant escape for example if i love to play cera i must die cuz of my fault not for 12 ton rex just outrun me. u understand now?

[supple pine]

#general-feedback message
okay, that first clip was the wrong one. They fixed the Dactyl issue (again), I meant to use one of snatching Compies out of the water.

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

big carnivores don’t need dibble AI, big carnivores need to learn how to hunt actual players rather than farm free food. If you wanna play PvE, play a herbivore

[narrow cypress]

Facts

[final silo]

did anyone else notice that catfish ai have like really low hp? ive just killed one in 1 hit as a baby deino with 30 biteforce

[frail prawn]

Wolf Quest is a good example what AI could act like, especially with herding behavior.

[digital scarab]

Yeah cant use real life... this game is fictional and very little aspects from real life are used in this game. Balancing and what not

#general-feedback message
Well... It's setup that way so people cant ghost you... Imagine someone is hunting you and you hide in a bush, they could quick log, open the replay, find you in replay, then log back in

[open aspen]

#general-feedback message its realy annoying

[digital scarab]

it's annoying having to patch your game when it needs fixing? What a strange complaint...

[open aspen]

?

every time you need to re-install the beta

like first time

[digital scarab]

I promise, the base game is definitely NOT only 5 gigs

[digital scarab]

Evrima is about 25 gigs, so... 5 isnt that bad in the scope of things lol

[open aspen]

25gb isn't legacy?

[wooden agate]

isnt evrima only like 6-8gb

[icy lion]

7.56 on my pc

[wooden agate]

well i did not want to say 6-7............. but well

[icy lion]

7.56 is bigger than 7!

[wooden agate]

this is true!

[final silo]

ermmm actually its smaller than 7! cause 7! is 5040🤓

[golden horizon]

yeah if your reaction timer is that of a granny, you might get caught, but prime rexes so much sound when walking around, its hard not to notice them

[golden horizon]

according to your logic then carno shouldnt be faster than omni and dilo, since its bigger than them

[golden horizon]

thats just wrong, prime cera is 40 km/hr and you can easily outrun them. Im a cera main and i've outrun them everytime even with ambush speed

[foggy field]

Bruh your rection time will not matter when its FASTER them you

Dibbles especialy can only run at 34, rex can EASILY catch up to them even if the dibbles sees it

[golden horizon]

Bruh it only has ambush speed for 15 sec. And no prime dibble can run 37.8 stop making excuses for being bad

i dont complain when im getting run down by a carno as omni

[foggy field]

A 15 seconds is more them enought time to catch up to Dibble

Either buff adult dibble speed or nerf rex ambush

[golden horizon]

dibble players dont need buff, they just need to use their eyes and ears

if u want rex nerf, then carno also need nerf

also its not hard to spot a rex, those things are massive

[pliant elm]

15 seconds is more than enough time for something 6km faster to catch up with you without even needing to actually ambush you, Just go to the open and press a button.

[foggy field]

Dibble can be in a open field and rex can still catch up to it

[pliant elm]

And catching a Dibble Prime will be a little more difficult, but Rex is still 3km faster xd

[foggy field]

Primes has a WHOLE should not get speed boosts, rex included

[pliant elm]

Rex's Ambush isn't really an Ambush, it's just an overpowered speed boost

[golden horizon]

if rex gets close enough, that he can catch dibble with ambush speed, then I think its on the dibble, but most players will notice a rex running towards them, so thats not a problem

rex relies on ambush, so if you just keep your distance to it you will be fine

Rex CANT run down dibble from far

sure if dibble let rex gets close he's dead

[pliant elm]

Let me give you an example. Before, when teno was running 0.1km faster than the Cerato, could catch up to it without much difficulty in less than 30 seconds. What do you think would happen if something 6km faster tried it? Xd

[pliant elm]

Exactly. But Rex doesn't even need to ambush with current "ambush" mechanic

[golden horizon]

teno could outrun cera if he just run in a straight line, since they have faster trot and can run 1.86 km on full stam bar while cera could only run 1.60 km

[unkempt nacelle]

Dyno a hard one to please? Boy just went down the road whole list of things hitting the X button 😂

[pliant elm]

I didn't say outrun, I said catch. You know, where he can already bite the cera

[golden horizon]

u mean teno chase down cera ?

if teno chase cera for more than 1 min, he would catch up, but rex only have the speed boost for 15 sec

then he goes back to normal speed

[pliant elm]

Teno, with 1min and 0.1km Speed advantage , manages to reach the Cerato far enough to bite it. Rex, with a 3-6km difference from an adult and prime Dibble, the same thing will happen, and it already does

Rex doesn't even need to outrun Dibble, even though he could; he just needs to get a little closer and use Crush

There's no need to set up a clever ambush, like hiding and waiting for Dibble to pass by and then attacking, Rex just needs to go into the open and use the speed boost

Just like what happened with Stego in the Hordtest, where an adult Rex using the ambush, with a 5km speed advantage, could easily catch up. This still happens, but now Stego can fight back

[wintry cipher]

#general-feedback message

Idk 30% hp regen, bleed regen and other stats seems pretty darn rewarding if you manage your diets well. The point of removing the grow speed was so people could be prime for longer without needing to tank their diets for it.

[delicate wadi]

I feel like if you are a non-combatant dino and just want to chill/nest/etc. in some corner of the map then it doesn't matter so much, but if you are actively fighting then it makes a huge difference (boosted stats).

But imo that speaks to a broader problem which is that devs state they don't want the game to be PvP arena, but many of the game's systems actively reward/incentivize PVP over other forms of engagement

[wintry cipher]

....actually hot take. Remove advanced gestation and just put egg speed on females with good diets

Im going to suggest that if the cd is gone

[delicate wadi]

I agree

More non-combat buffs from diets pls

Give females improved egg speed, and males say... reduced food drain from feeding babies or something

#general-feedback message I get why this is said based on their size, but dilos are already extremely strong with their clones, being able to jump on rocks etc. is one of the few ways many small/mid animals can actually have a chance to fend them off, especially at night when venom is hugely buffed

[wintry cipher]

Incubation speed. Female makes egg. Male makes the baby!

[delicate wadi]

Yes!

Perfectly balanced as all things should be

Also provides greater benefit for actually pairing up instead of taking parthenogenesis

[wintry cipher]

Yep now males have a use

[hardy flame]

in my own test it looks like they can't? So are you sure it's the ram that you were subject to?

[junior nymph]

you can

[acoustic wraith]

any deino eggs?

[blissful atlas]

beat place to ask is in the regional chats, like #evrima-na or #evrima-eu .

[mortal parrot]

@midnight heath So, River Currents

[midnight heath]

Yes, I'm not sure if people would like the idea of fighting against it however, but that could be it's own mutation honestly; allowing you to swim upstream easier and allow some individuals to spec into that for escaping those who don't have it.

Like a younger deino whose not as fast, takes it and hopefully can out swim a faster, older deino without it.

[mortal parrot]

Beipi being able to latch to the ground was so it can move up streams at ease

[midnight heath]

Please, PLEASE

Maybe a little stamination regen while latched 👉 👈 Just in general?

[strange wave]

could also make it work off where you are in the water column, ie, at the surface you move significantly faster down stream, but have to fight it going upstream, where at the bottom it doesnt affect you

[midnight heath]

Oh, that would be really cool and makes sense, given we might get some bottom walkers.

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

thats not what the assist does

the assist helps you interact with interactable objects

salt, plants, water, corpses, etc

it doesnt effect pounce or anything, they did add something that slides playables along with things pinning/pouncing them but what youre experiencing is likely that + desync. but its mainly desync that would be causing that

[ancient musk]

@fallen fractal they changed omni pounce thats hwy its diff

[limber hull]

Really weird argument given that carno has godawful agility to compensate for its speed, whereas Rex has one of the best agilities in the carnivore roster

You’d have a point if you weren’t conveniently leaving out that part

[frigid mica]

omni have enough mobily to dodge carno but as a dilo yeah cuz u pretty much dead if u see a carno that is also offbalanced and thats why u almost never see a dilo

if u realised after last patch i even don't remember when i saw like a big cera or dilos cuz there is off balance in this game, it make other playables, cannot be playable 😄

and pls remember this is a realism game but still it is a game everyone has right to play every dino and i should die to my faults nothing else

[ancient kestrel]

Seen both enough ceras and dilos recently. That have nothing to do with carno balance - that just hype for rex and allo didn't fully dissapeared yet

[frigid mica]

seen ?

[ancient kestrel]

Also it's hilariously wrong to think that cera have big issues with carno

[frigid mica]

bro compare with evrima last patch

cera no issue with carno

he has with rex

dilo has with carno

making them unplayable

[ancient kestrel]

I literally played 3 days ago and got full cera party fighting full dilo party

[frigid mica]

3 days ago 😄

bro u just LMAO

[ancient kestrel]

Lmao no

[frigid mica]

stop being rex boy

[ancient kestrel]

Rex gets to cera only on ambush if cera oblivious somehow

[frigid mica]

prime rex catches prime cera

dr i can kill u every time with rex u even cannot do anyting about that

[indigo gulch]

[frigid mica]

wanna test in admin serv ?

[ancient kestrel]

I haven't played Rex a single time in evrima yet.

[indigo gulch]

Wait wasnt this about cera, dilo and carno

Where did rex come from

[frigid mica]

then stop talking about that u even dont know 😄

typical isle player

[ancient kestrel]

It isn't like I can play cera and have experience with dodging rexes

[ancient kestrel]

We all are

Like bro what's wrong with your altitude. So much arrogance towards people whose player experience isn't known for you

[indigo gulch]

Also cera finally not being the top carnivore while being a scavenger

[ancient kestrel]

I do play cera a lot so I know for a fact that Rex isn't a big deal unless you are too close to it's ambush and there is no water to swim away or cliff to safely jump from

[ancient kestrel]

Yeah. It perfectly balanced now
Its like it was purposely made for such ecosystem where bigger land predators are dominating

[indigo gulch]

Wish it hadnt been absolutely dominant until then but hey I’ll take it

[frigid mica]

he prob was begginer

[frigid mica]

bro scavenger can escape thats the point

am not saying he sould have kill he must escape but if ur not peek prime cera u will be dead most of the time

against rex

[frigid mica]

tell me about dilo and carno match up ?

can u say balanced too ?

[golden horizon]

Carno have a 180 degree drift, so they can just keep sliding till they eventually get a knockdown and then its gg for the omni or dilo

[golden horizon]

I play on a server with population control and useful admins, so you see a variety of dinos. Dont play on official, its just not worh it.

[frigid mica]

rain that means ur gameplay depends on other serv admins and rules not depends on game itself, pls be openminded

u need that cuz game itself is damn unbalanced just agree

[golden horizon]

yes like its supposed to be, no mixpacking, overpacking and cheaters, and rules to make it fair for everybody. The devs eventially want all playbase to move to community servers.

[frigid mica]

to be honest population control doesnt help with cheats like, or mixpack or overpack

u still need that cuz if there is no population control allos and rexes devour all other dinos make the game unplayable

for example dinoden before that it was a good pvp server but now its more like allo and rex pvp serv

[ocean coral]

@covert schooner fire beat 🔥

[ancient kestrel]

It's not that hard to escape rex if you have enough distance between you even as 100% prime cera

[frigid mica]

yeah if u 10 miles away

100

[ancient kestrel]

The speed difference ain't that big between rexes ambush and cera's sprint

[frigid mica]

cera max 40km/h rex with ambush almost same

soo if u not peak prime as a cera

pretty much dead

[ancient kestrel]

And that means it's not going to catch you unless it was 5 meters from you or something

[frigid mica]

but u talking about peak prime cera and it stays maybe around 30 min

after or before that ?

[ancient kestrel]

Like even the 100% prime cera not that slow to begin with

It also doesn't lose swim speed at 100% btw

And considering that people crowding on delta - you will always be near the water

And yeah. Deinos are a myth

The actual cera's issue isn't match up with rex but allos having rapid fire bite cooldown

[frigid mica]

can u tell me the speed ?

[frigid mica]

u gonna swim against rex ?

[indigo gulch]

As a deino player, this hurts but it isn’t untrue

Most primes are fed with alt accounts

[unkempt nacelle]

Can anyone explain the hate for dilos? Every post I’ve ever seen about them gets annihilated by ❌s. Everyone seems to have a hate for buffing them but really, They are the most basic little carnivore Dino in the game until they get their venom which isn’t no large feat compared to half of the specialized skills of the rest of them. No secondary attack, no pounce, no jump, no pin, no climbing, no advancing dodge type skill (speed drifting/temp speed boost/leap for exp). simply run and bite and it’s not a heavy dmg dealing Dino and backed by some super flimsy health stats. The venom which is the only thing it has isn’t ever there as a baby and you have to hit nearly half life cycle to get. And isn’t even over powering unless you’re in a pack. (But who’s not in a pack. There’s literally a pack of Rex’s and allos around every corner.) And you have to hit more than once, only decent at stacking at night. Idk let me know, what’s the reason for everyone hate to boost the dilo or give it maybe make it more then a 3 button playable Dino??

[junior nymph]

its because the ideas are mostly "lets buff dilo into oblivion!" or "lets change dilos whole idea!" Its literally just needing bug fixes and thats it

[unkempt nacelle]

I guess that makes sense, awhile ago I mentioned that the Dilo should have some sort of ability to evade a carno and I had like 30 people shoot it down. The carno out paces the dilo, out dmges the dilo, out maneuvers the dilo (his charge slide) and can tank dilos hits easily. It honestly makes it so if you're a dilo and a carno sees you.. there's no way out and you will die. Unless you straight up lose em in a bush run, but hes going to be faster then you and taller giving a sight advantage. even dryos and other smaller things are able to evade via jumping, swim speeds, climbing. and slower things are normally tankier, but dilo, nothing. A carno is just their cryptonite lol

[pliant elm]

That is the Carno purpose, Being a small tier hunter

[pliant elm]

But the dilo can escape from Carno using water

[unkempt nacelle]

Fg against fg carnos always caught me in the water. And yeah I mean simple higher tier hunter against smaller one but almost every other Dino has a fight or flight mode against one another. Chance to fight or chance to Evade while it doesn’t seem so with those too

Two* I think the only option shoot to lose in the Shrubs and stay quiet.

[ancient kestrel]

Or just be a dilo and come out of bushy areas only at nights since carno have worse nv than dilo

[formal kayak]

Evading carnos when you’re a small tier is all about using foliage to break LoS and knowing how to evade

Plus at night, I find that dilos slaughter carno (when their… venom and hallucinations work…)

Did not mean to ping reply

[wooden agate]

"you gonna use one of ceratos means of escape to escape?"

[limber hull]

lmao

true tho, ive been sticking around water as cerato and its amazing for the "no thanks" playstyle

[wooden agate]

swamps has been heaven for my ceratos lately

[limber hull]

i do agree with the concept of "why is prime rex that goddamn fast that it genuinely can outpace a prime cerato" but yea swimming is good too

thats not a joke btw prime rex ambush > prime cera sprint

it's DUMB

make prime rex slow down like allo and cera do istg

[wooden agate]

and also maybe take another look at ambush mechanic as a whole...,,,

[limber hull]

yea that too

me no likey

ive really not seen many positives to the mechanic

i still think it should have the cooldown removed and instead only be activated if you start sprinting at 100% stamina

[ancient kestrel]

I do wonder if it's intended that ambush consume same amount of stamina as normal sprint

[covert schooner]

Yo it got deleted again😂
Or I'm just blind...

[icy lion]

We expect posts in the feedback channels to be constructive and descriptive. Your post failed to comply and was removed. Use #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 to report bugs

[foggy field]

A 12 ton therapod should no be running at 40km/h

Its brainded

Primes should not have a speed boost

[golden horizon]

i play on petits peids, they have heavy pop control on apexes. Seeing a fg rex is very rare, and you see just as many allos as you see cera, carnos, omnis etc.

[pliant elm]

What would be the purpose of Carno if Dilo had an effective way to escape him xd

Unfortunately, this is the niche they chose for Carno, so he has to be good at it

[open aspen]

#moderation message i'm suggesting fixing it

[icy lion]

We expect posts in the feedback channels to be constructive and descriptive. "Fix this issue" is neither. If you want to help the devs fix the issue, report it in #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[open aspen]

alr

[fallen fractal]

It's awful, really awful, the Raptor is becoming unplayable.

[pliant elm]

Omni only had the Pounce bug fixed.

It wasn't a nerf

Before, Omni could cause over 5k bleeding damage

[icy lion]

@fierce ravine Could you dm me please?

[covert schooner]

It was not a bug report.
It was not destructive or unspecified.
It was a summary of all other feedbacks with similar matters.

At the end it does not surprise me.

I'm out.

[near pier]

Hi . I’m having problems connecting to servers.
I reinstalled the game and verified the game files, but it didn’t help.
The server status shows Error or Offline.
Maybe someone knows what to do?

[sudden forge]

put a checklist for prime when you hit tab or something. some type of checklist bcuz its super annoying and newer players dont know what to do. It just puts them at a huge disadvantage off the rip, and annoys players who are consistent.

[cyan rampart]

Yo how can I see how much health remains

I'm fed up with this mf gamw

Game

[wooden agate]

you'll have to guess via blood screens for now

[cyan rampart]

These devs are unbelievable

[wooden agate]

which tbf, im fine with a more intuitive blood screen system replacing a standard "healthbar" system. nothing says fast pasted, intense combat like breaking every 10 seconds to press tab

[cyan rampart]

Hahaha ha true

I used to fckn love this game

What has happened to it....

[wooden agate]

we know blood screens are also going to be reworked soon as part of the UI update so they'll more than likely be even easier to tell apart than they are now

[cyan rampart]

Like what's the thinking a Rex can main like 3 stegos but a single adult allo can get thrown down with one hit by a stego like there is no logic to it

[wooden agate]

if a rex manages to kill 3 stegos that are equal in growth to it those are the worst stegos i have ever seen in my life

even trike would have trouble losing that matchup

[cyan rampart]

And then until that fat Dino gets up he is dead

I have seen videos where they use the stun method and try to place them one in front of the other

So they have to move to not hit each other

But I cannot get my head around how a mf stego can one shot an allo

[wooden agate]

well it... cant, unless its prime i believe. and even then it would require follow up swings

and even then

6 ton animal with meter long spikes slapping its tail into a 2.6t animal? yah no, die

also isnt stego one of, if not the only animal we have proof of killing an adult allosaurus

[ancient kestrel]

Hmmm... Did thought rex had much slower swim speed. Weird

[ancient kestrel]

What's wrong with allo being weaker against stego than rex? Am I missing the point or what?

[cyan rampart]

The point is don't throw me down and basically one shot me

That's overpowered

And a full grown allo at that

[chrome quail]

stego hard counters allo go for maias or dibbles

[cyan rampart]

2.6 tons

How can a stego throw an allo down and one shot him

[ancient kestrel]

Stego can't one shot adult allo unless iut landed runing power swing headshot on you. So there is your skill issue clearly

[cyan rampart]

Bro he didn't hit me even in the body

I git stuck between a tree and he hit me around the tail

So not skill issue

And it was a single tree

[ancient kestrel]

So he didn't one shot you by that logic because that means 2 hits

[cyan rampart]

In that logic it was 3 hits

One to throw me down

And 2 more to the head before I even got the chance to stand up

[ancient kestrel]

Also yeah stego can knockdown things which are lower weigtht. That isn't broken and logical

[cyan rampart]

OK then it can throw down a dribble or a trike?

[ancient kestrel]

I mean hunting fg stego as solo allo is a dumb idea to begin with

[cyan rampart]

I was cornered by mixpackers

[ancient kestrel]

It's more than 2 times more than your weight and have very powerfull weapon

[cyan rampart]

And he got me

3 for stegos 1 Rex 1 prime trike and an adult trikw

Fg*

So stego is only for the t Rex?

[ancient kestrel]

I don't see any issue here since rex is 9 toins animal and allo is 2.6 tons animal

[cyan rampart]

Come on bro

U just a glazer

U can't be subjective

[ancient kestrel]

Glazer of what? I am cerato main to begin with

[cyan rampart]

Mix packing is basically cheating

And if that stego was alone

Maybe it would have been different

[ancient kestrel]

So... what it have to do with stego's balance?

[cyan rampart]

Keeping the bleed without getting hit

That it's overpowered as is

It dont need no mixpacking

And no throw downs

2.6 tones being should be able to be thrown down period

Shouldnt

Stun yes

Not thrown

[ancient kestrel]

I don't understand what are you even saying at this point. Try to learn English better

[cyan rampart]

I speak English because it's only language ur gonna understand u speak it because it's the only language u know

So chill boy

[wooden agate]

stego can be taken out in groups of allos, but generally a 1v1 between a stego and allo SHOULD result in death almost always for the allosaurus

[cyan rampart]

OK I won't disagree with that but the throw down should be able to happen

[ancient kestrel]

Stego is supposedly a strong apex herbivore so a mid tier carnivore for it isn't a big problem. They are different power levels

[wooden agate]

thats just not your ideal prey as an allo. stego is fundementally designed at protecting its flanks, something allosaurus is fundementally kitted for going towards

[wooden agate]

i think there should be a bit more of a recovery after stego knocks something down for the stego to avoid machine gun attacks, sure

but i think the knockdown is fine

[cyan rampart]

Getting stunned would be better

[wooden agate]

getting stunned wouldnt solve the problem

[ancient kestrel]

Unfortunately for you crowd control abilties like this are a staple of evrima so it won't be removed

[cyan rampart]

OK then a stego should be helpless fighting a 12 ton rex

Even a 10 ton

[wooden agate]

it is for the most part

[cyan rampart]

No stuns no nothing

[wooden agate]

unless its a prime and nearing an equal status, but even then prime stego crumbles against prime rex 99/100 times

[cyan rampart]

So what's the play

U just loose 8 hours of ur life?

[ancient kestrel]

Just either learn dodging stego or simply don't hunt it solo. It purposely balanced the way so any mid tier carni can't solo it

[cyan rampart]

Bro I was stuck in a tree because the game devs dont care

The game is laggy

The servers ain't good

What's the play if I get stuck on a tree? Like fr

[wooden agate]

do not get stuck on the tree.

[cyan rampart]

I didn't plan to man

[ancient kestrel]

Didn't you said that you defeated 3 stegos on rex before?

[cyan rampart]

I saw a video that this happened

[wooden agate]

the game doesnt force you into trees. you made a bad call, ran yourself into a corner, and died.

thats part of skill expression in survival games. not making bad plays and not putting yourselves in situations like that

[cyan rampart]

Ur just antagonizing me bro

Bro I lagged into a tree

I dont know what u dont understand

Like it wasn't a skill issue or none of that he just saw that I git stuck and took advantage

I ain't crying about it but come on

I dont remember the game being this laggy

[wooden agate]

considering this is the first time you mention lagging into the tree instead of "i got stuck on the tree", im not sure why youre acting like im purposefully misunderstanding when you wont even give proper info lol

[cyan rampart]

Bro I'm greek

English is my third language

Like dont take my word on its literal meaning come on

I didn't know lagged was even a word I knew lag sow I improvised

I'm explaining this the best I can

[icy lion]

So you want stego to get nerfed because you experienced lag+mixpacking?

[urban flax]

"I lagged into a tree, therefore nerf stego"
This is truely an islecord moment

[cyan rampart]

No just slow down it's attacks so if someone is getting hammered in the ground he can get away

It doesn't make sense something that massive to be moving that quickly and be throwing 2.6 tons in the ground

The damage and the bleep I understand

Bleed

[wooden agate]

iirc there have been studies done estimating stegos could swing the end of their tail at upwards of 90 MPH

[cyan rampart]

Bruh

[wooden agate]

thats... alot of force when it has spikes on the end and 6 tons swinging the thing

im not one for realism to be the end all, be all but it does make a decent bit of sense

[wintry cipher]

Stego for some reason gets much faster attack speed if you disable its alt and one other thing. So its not exactly consistent in game between players. Some will attack faster by doing that. Some dont attack as fast. Its very strange.

[cyan rampart]

That i can understand

[cyan rampart]

Bro u need to fact check that

90 mph is a lot

Like a lot

To swing that back and forth at that speed

Dont kniw

[wooden agate]

i mean, for the end of it? not particularly

[wintry cipher]

Id just chalk it up to a very buggy encounter. It doesnt really show how stego is balanced tbh.

[cyan rampart]

OK I get behind that

[wintry cipher]

Also, try alt attacking when getting up. That might make you get up faster.

Not proven but ive heard from a friend they do that

[icy lion]

@cyan rampart Translators exist. Read rules 2 and 7

[pliant elm]

I have the impression that you tried to go 1v1 with an adult Stego or Prime and lost miserably, and then came to complain

[narrow cypress]

dont try to fight big stegos with the allo , most of the times pounce doesnt work and GG dead

[faint folio]

I have the impression that they tried to 1v1 an adult stego, realized they were outmatched, tried to run, glitched into a tree and got stuck, and then lost miserably and came to complain.

Which... Fair, but I think the main issue is getting stuck on terrain that visually looks passable, not stego's power

[pliant elm]

Well, It wouldn't have happened if he hadn't risked entering a fight with -999999% odds of winning xd

[frigid mica]

bro what u talking about ? u telling me how good the server is not the game. LOL

[frigid mica]

i mean if there is no croc or rex is pretty far maybe works but not reliable

[golden horizon]

Did you forget you were talking about how dinoden have become rex and allo pvp server ? I dont play on dinoden and never will, since they have admin abusing their powers and boosting their playercount

[barren zephyr]

I love Dinoden i understand that everyone has preferences but please don’t spread misinformation about it lol also they have pop control on

[frigid mica]

bro why you keep trying not to understand, Petit has in game own balance that's why u playing there, there is diffrent mutation value ect. thats why people playing there and most of the time they like the server balance not in game balance there is ceras cuz there is less rex and allo THAT doesn't mean game is balanced, soo Petit's trying to balance game own unbalancing system by itself

and this clearly shows why people don't play no rule servers as much as others cuz if they play many other dinos will be unplayable cuz of bad balance

it's not to understand bro

[urban flax]

Doesn't work

It says it needs my credit card number but I don't have one

Can you plz give me yours so I can redeem ?

[wooden agate]

<@&933486433342222376>

[open aspen]

#general-feedback message tell here if you agree or want to modify it

[pale river]

I agree

[junior nymph]

@ancient musk have you used bucking yet? like since last update

its RNG has been greatly decreased and uses 0 stam which I think is why the trees dont knock anymore

I Reckon they may just go the full bucking way to knock people, something that could be cool is if you buck next to a tree the pouncer gets a little hurt

[limber hull]

imma be real, the RNG still sucks

bucking them off doesn't even put you at an advantage, it puts you back into neutral

its exceptionally unrewarding

[silver ingot]

I have the feeling that the graphics are worse

[narrow cypress]

@chrome quail i love how a scavenger is one of the best hunter And you're still saying they should nerf the Allosaurus

a pack of 5 ceras can easily kills a pack of 3 allos and the cera have better stam and has one of the best agilitys in the game , and with body near more than 2,7 weigh

[indigo gulch]

but can they keep up with them?

if the answer is yes, we need to nerf cera more and not allo

[chrome quail]

allo 100% needs nerfs and bug fixes

[indigo gulch]

first bug fixes, then nerfs

because some of those bug fixes are already nerfs

[chrome quail]

dude like 2 sub allos can pin a fg trike

[narrow cypress]

the pounce needs rework but what you are saying happens with omni same

[narrow cypress]

a pack of 5 ceras easily kills allos i dont understand why you crying

[chrome quail]

Prime cera being slower than allo is crazy aswell allo needs speed nerf

[chrome quail]

A pack of 5 stegos easily kill 2 Rexes but Rex still get nerfs it’s about 1v1s

Ik cera is supposed to not really win but it should be able to run away instead of getting tail ridden to death

[narrow cypress]

ceras 36 kmh and allos 35.4

[chrome quail]

Nah like normal allo which is 38.9 and prime cera is 38.6 or 38.2

On ceras peak too btw

[narrow cypress]

1 vs 1 xdddd , cera only survive in group same as allo , if the pack of cera is five why not reduce tyo 4?

[chrome quail]

Bro balance isn’t in groups if it was then Rex wouldn’t need to be nerfed since trike group is 4 and stego group is 5 allo is just overtuned rn

[narrow cypress]

ok reduce allos speed but same ceras group 3 same as allo

balance

say that to the omni players xdddddd

[chrome quail]

That’s Alr

[narrow cypress]

3 allos and 3 ceras , i mean ceras shouldnt be in allos menu but allos shouldnt be in ceras menu of course

[indigo gulch]

@hybrid fjord you have to go to the Petit Pieds server for that. This is the official discord with official servers

also the answer is population control.

they lock species from being played when there are too many

[paper galleon]

Not exactly bro, and btw can't kill the trike XD

[paper galleon]

Only without stam, with tactile endurance is complicated xd

[narrow cypress]

@chrome quail I have seen cera speed : in his prime 39.7 Allos prime 39.1 sorry

[narrow cypress]

always cera runs faster than allo and have more stam

[limber hull]

"always"

idk about that

sub adult allo is faster than cera can ever be

[narrow cypress]

we were talking about primes but that is true sub cera should run a little more

[chrome quail]

All good bro 👍

[vernal jacinth]

@vagrant dune that’s more of a bug report #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞

[vagrant dune]

Is it? Is that not general feedback though because my allo randomly took flight walking down a part of the terrain and broke its leg and I just logged

[vernal jacinth]

Pretty sure you shouldn’t get launched at all

[spiral mountain]

ah yes, getting 2 taped by a deer, and when pounced on, a boar can hit me?

[tired quest]

boars can even cause bleed damage if you try to nibble its feet as a deino while its swimming

[spiral mountain]

deer also give u bleed now, it shouldnt be able to kick me from behind same as the boar

[blissful wigeon]

this one is a joke right #general-feedback message

[wooden agate]

i mean hes got a point

[faint folio]

Apexes shouldn't be able to grow on AI, but ironically it's incredibly hard for small tier animals (especially the juveniles) to find and catch the same AI, and those are the playables that should be growing on AI

[eternal zinc]

its gotta be, this is based off of jurassic park dinosaurs not paleo-accurate ones

[stark flare]

guys why does this happen sometimes

[junior nymph]

turn off physics foliage\

[stark flare]

ok thanks

[heady geode]

@pale river What would the polls be for the isle? not many things to vote on pack limits example especially

Why, no, I dont like the current pack limits of Infinite rexes on officials

[latent olive]

polls wouldnt affect anything either, it would just end up being a pain in the neck

[pale river]

Some stuff could be like should x get a nerf, we updated raptors pounce do you like it? Reduced ceras pack size to 4 instead of 5, should we rewind the update for now until the bug is fixed? Like should we get rid of the new interactions assist before it is better.

Idk stuff like that would be nice

[heady geode]

I just dont see it being done, this isnt our game, its just a game we play

[pale river]

That’s valid it’s just something I would like to see

[strange wave]

just because an idea is popular doesnt mean its good

[junior nymph]

@limpid dock I wouldnt say from every animal, probs just majority of things like rex, allo etc

[limpid dock]

nah, all of em. Faster teno bullys the hell out of omnis

[ancient musk]

ohh really? i haven't used it recently
care to elaborate?

[junior nymph]

it uses 0 stam

its rng is alot better you can knock people within like 4-7 seconds

[ancient musk]

oooo

[junior nymph]

its quite good now

[ancient musk]

thats niceeee
thanks for letting me know

[midnight heath]

@wintry cipher #general-feedback message Dondi did mention something like this in a Stream with another person a while ago, it possibly being less ideal to hunt carnivores than herbivores.

26:13, it should be time-stamped.
https://youtu.be/zivjnxGz_g8?t=1573

[wintry cipher]

Oooo ty!

[junior nymph]

#general-feedback message yes please make optimization worse please please I beg

[wintry cipher]

#general-feedback message thats to save frames. I have a friend on a not great computer who can actually run this at 30fps now after the update. We dont need stark 4k detail everywhere. You might notice other games do the same thing too.

[harsh sun]

Can't they at least change the colour? It's weird seeing gravel fade into a puke green texture.

[wintry cipher]

It is. Im guessing it has something to do with their back end settings for what colors show up at what distance. I dont think you are intended to be looking at that from that distance on the last image, but thats my guess.

[blissful wigeon]

#general-feedback message the population of what? crocs? i never see any because they can't survive rn

[woven sapphire]

Is there an area that the mods post what has been buffed and nerfed on certain dinosaurs with updates? Or is it always an Easter egg hunt to try and figure out new changes?

[wintry cipher]

#announcements contains all changelogs the devs include with updates. Not every change gets posted, but I'd assume if it negatively affects a dino and nothing is posted, I would consider it a bug. For example stego spent half its stamina swinging its tail once a few patches ago and that was not intended.

[woven sapphire]

This is untrue, as raptor bleed was just nerfed with no post about it in sight. This was not a bug* sorry

[strange wave]

we have confirmation that it is unintended

[woven sapphire]

This confirms that they did intentionally change the bleed again, but that it’s not the intended value. Where did Hypno post this?

[strange wave]

dms with a youtuber talking about balance

[woven sapphire]

This is why we need a channel where they post this information. So that people don’t have to hunt down every little change that they make in vague comment sections and private messages

[wooden agate]

@gentle lichen teno was like, 900kg irl

[gusty fog]

anyone else struggling to get onto evmira servers

[gentle lichen]

at least 2k

[gusty fog]

*1k

[wooden agate]

can we not use the first result on google for a source

[gusty fog]

1000-2000

[gentle lichen]

2 as a prime jesus crist, are you people even reading? i said as prime

[wooden agate]

it reaches between 1000-2000 lbs, but thats also around 900-1000kg

[gentle lichen]

then tell me why is cera so heavy?

im also okay with nerfing all the other dinosaurs

[wooden agate]

because cerato just dies if its smaller

[gentle lichen]

teno shouldnt be lighter than cera

[gentle lichen]

ok so because you dont want your fav dinosaur to die you dont want realism

could say the same about teno. it dies due to allos

[wooden agate]

well a) the game isnt going for realism and b) tenonto outruns allo so im #confused

[gentle lichen]

not always

[wooden agate]

i mean, to say "you dont want realism?!?!" in a game that lets you climb as herrerasaurus and has a 3t diablo is heeeelarious

[gentle lichen]

well see.. wishing for more realism

[wooden agate]

but your suggestion would be the exact opposite of realism

[gentle lichen]

its still unfair that some dinosaurs, example allo, get almost 1k on top when prime. and teno 200kg. cant tell me thats fair

beipi. gets nothing

why is it always the carnis that are getting everything and the mid and small herbies get nothing

[wooden agate]

i mean yeah tenonto should probably get an elder buff but to label it as a realism change is just odd

[wooden agate]

beipi's weight is an oversight, not an intentional decision

[gentle lichen]

because everybody wants to play op carnis and not work for it. carni players always expecting the herbis to just be meat

best carni is troodon. you gotta work hard. i love it

no pin to win bs everywhere. totaly op cera with all that advantages it has. carno ram spam. whats that

[wooden agate]

really feels like youre going on a side tangent and ignoring the convo at hand

and also, this should have been in the original suggestion?

if this was the reasoning behind buffing tenonto elder, thats fine, by all means go ahead. but basing the decision in realism is just... wrong, because a) its factually incorrect and b) the game doesnt concern itself with realism

[foggy field]

Dentisulcatus was larger

[foggy field]

The main issue is that its prime gains are to small

200kg is nothing

[wooden agate]

yes thats understandable, id be open to a tenonto weight buff in its elder

but the problem comes across when, instead of addressing the issues with tenonto having such a small elder size and making the balance issues that effects it apparent, the suggestion just goes "well because realism"

theres nothing in it mentioning the issues tenonto face that can be used to justify the tenonto weight buff, other than realism. which isnt good because as said, the game isnt aiming for realism to begin with, and the weight range given is also unrealistic

[foggy field]

Yeah we have like 4ton dibble

Some dinos have to be oversized to survive, the isle should not and does not want to be a realistic game

It its more realism based

[wooden agate]

it aims moreso for immersion than realism, yah. things feel relatively grounded within the game enviornment and lore

[gentle lichen]

900kg is also incorrect

[wooden agate]

https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/dino-directory/tenontosaurus.html

[wooden agate]

are you going to disagree with the natural history museum

[tired quest]

fossil body mass depend heavily on assumptions
peer-reviewed journal studies generally offer higher accuracy and greater testability than museum exhibit labels museum usually takes median estimates to avoid presenting the public with assumptions and uncertainty ranges
and exhibit panels are not updated frequently

[wooden agate]

ive requested a 1997 paper from researchgate for more info, not sure if/when ill get access though

its not much but i couldnt find much more that would hold Tenonotosaurus mass estimates other than that on RG

i did however find a paper from jan 2025 about Tenontosaurus being found further west in texas than previously thought, so that was a cool unrelated find

[warped fog]

eh the second point is right but many dinos could easily be the same size as their real life counterparts and still survive by just changing some numbers around such as speed, agility, how fast their animations play, damage, etc

[wooden agate]

to a certain degree, yes they could be changed

but then you have to get into rebalancing the roster that is already carefully balanced around these sizes, possibly adjust mechanics/animations, etc.

for instance, if cerato got slapped down to 940kg what does it do against a carno? what does it do against allosaurus? and then if/when you speed ceratosaurus up to compensate, you begin to effect the small tiers and put cerato in a niche it was never meant to be in

diablo got some changes in dev builds of the last HT, and unfortunately it just dies at smaller sizes

[warped fog]

yeah because it wasn't sufficiently buffed and larger dinos are still extremely unhealthy for the game

940kg cera would be fine if it was as fast and agile as a 940kg creature, and carno didn't have a black sized hole hitbox with enough cc to ban someone for being afk

[wooden agate]

carno would dominate cerato because thats what carno does when its bigger than cerato, we've seen it time and time again (and currently in game as well). thats what carno does to every small tier because that is carnos niche

even without the head ram, it was kinda cook-y

cookie... coo coo

kuku? idk

then you also run into the issue of ceratosaurus just flat out not being able to do its job in stealing corpses from animals larger than it (allosaurus would just pin it, carnotaurus flattens it)

[warped fog]

because carno is a stupid playable that is carried by it's ridiculous turn speed and hitboxes

oh, and cc

[pliant elm]

So He is carried by, well, all of his abilities?

[warped fog]

his turn speed isn't his abilities and his hitboxes/cc aren't intrinsic to his abilities.

you wonder why smaller creatures like dilo can't reasonably exist when carno is as overtuned as it is.

[pliant elm]

Carno would be one of, if not the worst, playable if it didn't have a hitbox as it currently does and a good drift

Hunting small things would be the hardest thing for him too

[pliant elm]

Well, Carno was rebalanced specifically to hunt things like Dilo, so it's fulfilling the role the devs gave it