general-feedback-discussion

[hexed tiger]

why do this in the first place?? what are they testing by doing this??

[full heart]

#general-feedback message you can forget it, deinos have been crapped on for a while now, seems to be the most hated playable, every update, seems they do something to ruin the experience and make them unplayable.

[tawny dirge]

still with 800 kg, he can make that with a 1400 kg cerato

[queen locust]

an 800kg rex is NOT beating a adult cerato unless the cera has a skill issue

[tawny dirge]

well it the grab thing with no countdown ? i think its 50% 50% thing of skill issue or balance

because its a big slot of time you are in the grabbed position and not able to make any damage

and if the rex have other with them its a gg

like what i'm trying to saying is have a big window of you are just on the floor not being able to do any damage, even if the rex its your front

[past cave]

#general-feedback message

Cool Idea, but I will not agree with this as I had to refund BF6 because I couldnt fix the Boot issue without Bricking my PC

[limber hull]

I don't know what that has to do with the feedback at all lol

The image isn't even real

[cunning sequoia]

forgot about ptera bro

[limber hull]

ptera's getting a whole ass rework lmao

[full heart]

Shoot my bad, yeah they despise those little flyers as well.

[junior nymph]

ptera is literally so good rn wdym

[limber hull]

ehhh, not with the current momentum issues, but yea

[valid willow]

Fr I remember when everyone wanted to play deinos now the devs want to bury Deimos for whatever reason

[spiral scaffold]

pteras on pteras diet now?

[limber hull]

no? unless you're looking confusing it for pterodactylus in the diet, which is a different thing

[spiral scaffold]

i might be

[limber hull]

@junior nymph #general-feedback message

cant wait for you to be downvoted because its the new UI and new UI bad

[junior nymph]

🙂

[frozen heron]

@round bay Instead of sending devs on a goose chase to figure out what bugs are plaguing troodon you should use the bug report form and idk... submit them

[round bay]

play troodon rn for 5 minutes, its literally instant dude

[frozen heron]

Okay then report it

[round bay]

i did brother

they've been around since the start of the ht

[frozen heron]

Then they will look at it, no need to put it in feedback if they're gonna see it

[round bay]

why not put it in feedback so others know about it

[frozen heron]

Last time i complained about bugs in feedback mods removed it and told me to use the form

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[round bay]

ok

[spiral scaffold]

I am so frustrated, I tried to use new mutation to nest alone, but can't even build nest with the laggin because the sticks just get stuck in face then I can't even build it anymore. then I gotta wait for more sticks to spawn after face sticks despawn and then growth is wasted, and its all just so very frustrating....sigh

[pliant wadi]

is multichambered lungs a third and second mutation slot?

[pliant wadi]

tysm!!

[tawny dirge]

Play stego, stego full adult with the truculence mutation and Regen mutation and a rex full adult just grab with one bite and insta kill

Yay so much fun!

And before anyone says about headshot things, nope he don't bited the head, he just literally grabbed on the back and insta kill

[junior nymph]

@gloomy cipher there is already a mutation that lets you eat bones

[gloomy cipher]

is there actually? ive never seen it/gotten it

[junior nymph]

you have to eat bones

secret mutation

[gloomy cipher]

does that allow you to eat bones, or just allow you to heal fractures when eating bones?

[junior nymph]

you can eat bones normally. Its just it helps with frac heal if you get a fracture

[gloomy cipher]

oh nice

[tawny dirge]

It's just me or they literally put so much things on rex making him not balance?

[gloomy cipher]

honestly rex doesnt seem like it has a lot, its pin is the only ability any rex uses anyway

[tawny dirge]

Like rex have ambush, pin down every dinosaur, break bones, push over

[tawny dirge]

And the pin its a thing I'm concerned of not balance because a 800 kg rex can pin a 1400 cerato and you can see how can this go

Like a full adult stego if pinned by a full adult rex you dead in one bite

[urban flax]

Yeah that's rex
Fair and balanced ™

[gloomy cipher]

honestly rex has never been balanced, even in legacy it was the easiest apex carni to grow and was by far the best, able to break a dinos leg in 1 shot, and has the ability to facetank any carni dino in the game, rex was kinda untouchable
and thats excluding its leg break, with leg break you have to trade a single hit, then you get a free tail ride to win

[urban flax]

That's no excuse for keeping it unbalanced tbh

Nothing was balanced in legacy, yet a lot of things and evrima are

[gloomy cipher]

ofc, but they did it in legacy, it doesnt surprise me that they wont do it in evrima

[tawny dirge]

Like we just gonna play with herbivores when ? When just a camarasaur being in the game ?

Like why I gonna spend 7- 8 hours when para launch to just pinned down and killed in one bite

[urban flax]

Legacy is no basis for anything

[gloomy cipher]

imo, rex shouldnt be able to pin similar sized dinos, i think that for stego a rex should only be able to pin it if they hit its head, which sounds pretty fair to me
leg break in one bite is insanity and its th exact same on evrima as legacy, 1 bit and you win because they cant turn enough to stop you from getting free hits in

[tawny dirge]

And the pinned down thing it's so frustrating, like you can't even defend yourself in anything, like you a trike pinned down with a rex in front of your head and you can't even Hit

Or in my case a stego who can't even Hit with the tail in the rex in the back

[gloomy cipher]

i think dondi just likes cc at this point, every single dino in the game has cc in one way or another

[tawny dirge]

Well most of the giant ccs are from carnivores

[gloomy cipher]

not the giant ones, i would say dibble has amazing cc, abe to one shot a knocked down (up to cera weight i mean) dino, or trike

[tawny dirge]

I know, but I'm saying like who have most ccs are carnivores like carno, raptor, cerato ( with puke thing), and even allo when launch gonna have a pounce attack

[gloomy cipher]

even troodon has cc, the only dinos that i dont think has cc is like hypsi and ptera

[tawny dirge]

And stego I think don't have cc

[gloomy cipher]

it does, if oyu can survive a power swing u get stunned, only really able to see this agianst dibbles and maias

[tawny dirge]

Oh, i didn't know that, well time to wait to sauropods to be in game to go having fun with herbivores again or they decide to balance rex

Like trike have the how much he can use the ability, but the rex can use normal the pinned down like passive

[gloomy cipher]

honestly trikes can easily kill rexes in a 1v1, they just kinda stoopid

[tawny dirge]

1v1 yeah, but as we know 60% of the servers are rexes and they go 2 or 4 in you

[gloomy cipher]

thats accurate, but theres no real way to stop that, besides playing on a server like petits pieds when rex releases to main branch, they are only gonna allow up to like 10 alive at once and they enforce mixpack/mixherd/mixdieting rules ,and pack limits aswell

[tawny dirge]

And I'm still saying have to reduce the speed of rex, a 9,5 ton animal outrun a diablo it's like wtf

[tawny dirge]

True

[gloomy cipher]

i mean that kinda makes sense ngl, weight doesnt necessarily mean slow, proportions are important too, like dibble has tiny legs, its known that people with longer legs are better at speed than those with shorter legs,

[gloomy cipher]

ik humans arent dinosaurs, but i cant imagine dibble being faster than a rex, but atleast rex runs out of stam pretty fast compared to dibble

just gotta keep your eyes open for rexes or play like maia, maia would probably be the best herbi choice on hordetest rn

[tawny dirge]

Yup, or just play some raptor, carno or cera again

And I know we gonna have this same problem when the spino, giga launch

[gloomy cipher]

honestly, probably not gonnah ave much issues with those launches i feel, based on legacy juvi giga is beyond trash, and adult is strong but slow, and for spinos the only people thats gonna be complaining is gonna be deinos tbh

[spiral scaffold]

what's the update now

[gaunt tapir]

just played the ht pt changes from today, when i tried to airbreak-peck i crashed, several times, i guess no more pecking at all now 😭

[urban flax]

woah

[limber hull]

my fave carnivore

[gleaming garden]

Help???

[minor sentinel]

#general-feedback message

gang

what

#general-feedback message they said its temporary

[tiny sparrow]

Is there an administrator around?The server kept crashing. After I crashed on the bridge, it caused the bridge to not load properly when I entered the server. My Rex died

[rancid topaz]

Fix the AI the game is unplayable FIX YOUR AI ISSUE INSTEAD OF ADDING LIITLE CUTE UI...

[junior nymph]

the AI is fine

its free food you just need to listen to it

[rancid topaz]

Not for water AI , 90% of my crocs die cause I can’t find any food.. Fish are very rare the spawn rate should be increased or balanced, compare to the land AIs.

[paper galleon]

@gentle briar the game isn't based on growing with ai, if you can grow a rex elder with ai, means that they are doing something wrong

[molten tapir]

Hey Guys 🙂 I just had an Idea for the Hypsilophodon. I think it could be really cool if implemented and could really enrich the game and the Hypsilophodon's place in the game 🙂 I hope to hear your opinions on it. I tried to make it as concise and clear as possible 🙂 Thank you for reading if you do 🙂

Here is the text. Tried to partition it so it would be easier to read on discord 🙂

[gentle briar]

Well, thank you for this extremely clever tip...
xD

I'm well aware of that, you wouldn't believe it... which is probably why I wrote that the loss of players due to the hacker/cheater problem is making it worse.

Because if you're there to test and have NOTHING to eat.
Neither players nor AI, then you can't TEST either.

But thank you, I'll take your "ADVICE" to heart. ^_-

Microphone drop

[paper galleon]

since you complained about ai in the same post, thought you wanted to grow the rex by eating only ai XD

if there is nothing to eat it's bcs there aren't many players playing bcs the servers are bad or bcs they are hidden

[gentle briar]

Sarcasm on

Of course I think that...
Of course a REX must be able to feed exclusively on AI.
What kind of game would it be otherwise?? Maybe a survival title??

God forbid! I always thought The Isle was a pony farm game.

Sarcasm off

Have a nice day ^^

[paper galleon]

XDDDDDD
you wouldn't be surprised by the number of ppl who think that this is how the game should be, as well as ppl who want to play a meet friends simulator and hang out with a herb like stego

[minor sentinel]

yea

[gentle briar]

😂 Be sure I know, which is why I put it in the sarcasm section ^.-

[minor sentinel]

#general-feedback message @chilly anchor I'm not sure about that, it's lot better.

[chilly anchor]

server is crashing every 5min and still rubberbanding

worser than befor

[safe hearth]

But this number is still small.
The most biggest number of people is
"Make my favourite dino OP strong like a comet"

sarcasm on

Of cause i want that my Anky-Wanky does bonebreak, stun and if it hit the head= one shot each none-spino-creature

sarcasm off

[gentle briar]

🫣 😂 💯

[limber hull]

please do not say "anky wanky" ever again

thank you

[gentle briar]

😂

[paper galleon]

well, the stego has been like this for a long time, the only thing doesn't have is being able to break bones, but oneshot everyone even if he doesn't hit the head XD

[paper galleon]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[safe hearth]

xDD

[minor sentinel]

The Rubberbanding is getting a lot better, With every patch its not getting more unplayable.

[minor sentinel]

the hell are you guys talking about?

[gentle briar]

👍🏻 jipp but before the Major Patch we have no Rubberbanding

[gentle briar]

The Isle ? 🤔

[safe hearth]

And anky wanky

[minor sentinel]

yeah, but it's [>GETTING<] better, and I wasn't talk about the before the Major Patch.

[gentle briar]

Yes 😌

[safe hearth]

Well of cause we know this.
Still waiting for it.
To have every 5minutes 1fps and ping of 464 its not fun to play 😄

[paper galleon]

This morning the servers crashed every 2 min, last night there was a crash and it started to go better, but after the 2:00 am restart it started to go very bad again, almost unplayable

[minor sentinel]

did I say that THE ({[>>>RUBBERANDING<<<]}) WAS GETTING A LOT BETTER

[paper galleon]

I know but XD

[minor sentinel]

I wasn't talk about the crashing

[icy lion]

@vagrant dune

[vagrant dune]

When was this posted? Is this in announcement?

[icy lion]

Yea #announcements message

[vagrant dune]

I’ll read it

[grave portal]

Developers please do sum bro waiting for 1 week and its still lagging and crashing

like wtf are these empty servers

every server was full with 50 + que

[ornate pewter]

"Skin palettes have been reset for some species. Enjoy it while it lasts."

This was part of the Unpinged Announcements.

So for those of you deeply upset about about the skin changes, don't be, it's temporary.

[rustic fog]

Las rocas necesitan un re-work tienen mucha superficie donde el dinosaurio simplemente resbala.
El abuso por parte de los jugadores de cubrirse la espalda con diversas cosas del entorno como arboles y rocas es detestable.

[rustic pilot]

is it here that i can make a suggestion to make the game more "correct" i guess ?

[gentle flint]

That specific announcement was for when the whole color palette was temporarily unlocked, causing people to make skins such as this

#isle-discussion message

But yeah it’s still temporary regardless
(unless they pushed ANOTHER silent update, which I did not check, that unlocked everything again. But most people were complaining hard about everything being brown for a bit there)

[gentle briar]

Massive Hacker/Cheater problems + Server Chrashes + Rubberbanding

Many players are having serious problems because of this.

They've lost their dinosaurs.

And probably the desire to play HT at the moment.

But as always, keep in mind this is a test server.

Everything will never run smoothly here.

[minor sentinel]

what if they made it laggy on purpose so that the Hackers lost the desire to play the game, so they go to a different one

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thinking-baby-thinking-cat-baby-thinking-cat-baby-baby-philosophical-gif-17428742062241334001

[spiral scaffold]

I miss being able to play HT Ptera 🙁

[valid willow]

@vivid acorn took the word right out my mouth if they ever add the Carch i will only ever play that dino

its the coolest dino ive ever seen

[minor sentinel]

@stray oasis

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message is this bait?

[minor sentinel]

got to be

[wooden agate]

i only ask because that used to be something a small portion of the community actually wanted for a very short amount of time

nostalgic......

[minor sentinel]

ok, but is it bait tho?

[wooden agate]

this is the true question...>!

[minor sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/deadass-kratos-are-you-serious-gif-17416856702588199050

[vivid acorn]

Agreed

[stray oasis]

this has just saved my life

but also, why even implement it if it's a temporary thing?????? like what was the reason?

[gentle briar]

What a fantastically wonderful theory ^^
Could it really be like that? xD

If that's the devs' tactic, then it would have been wise to only curse HackerACC with the rubberbanding curse xD ^^

[minor sentinel]

I think they accidentally removed it when we have the neon ones

[gentle briar]

🤔

[minor sentinel]

#general-feedback message I do NOT want to see this in the isle

@rotund hazel I have good news for you Metta

[gentle briar]

😩 Please No xDD

[slim hazel]

Why is carno and cera on Omnis diet but teno isn’t

[night raptor]

#general-feedback message I don't understand how people disagree with this. The new UI that we unfortunately got is absolutely horrendous. Dino details are nice but that doesn't help one bit.

They just changed the menu black and added like 5 colors to it. The old one was just fine.

[minor sentinel]

it's too JWE1 like, that why

[spiral scaffold]

https://tenor.com/view/level-perfectly-level-rick-and-morty-mortys-mindblowers-erased-memory-gif-9787222

I really want to go back to ht, the PT is so much better....please

[junior nymph]

@worldly oxide ah yes lets allow the same person to make a family and make 20 alt accounts or allow hackers to just switch accounts without even paying any money

[minor sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thinking-baby-thinking-cat-baby-thinking-cat-baby-baby-philosophical-gif-17428742062241334001

[west tiger]

anyone else having trouble with the single parent mutation

[abstract badger]

lol made a discussion post n they took it down right away yet they can’t ban hackers when pinged?

[spiral scaffold]

boars in this fkn game be like, you know what I think if they kill more than 3 dinos they should be able to get prime boar status

[livid burrow]

Comparison of Spiro's waterfall and a thermal spring waterfall in Colombia (screenshot taken from the spiro screenshots channel)

[tawny dirge]

just saw a speed demon rex full adult and probably was a hack

[spiral scaffold]

anyone else getting ht fatal errors alot now

[tawny dirge]

well just time out server thing but not fatal errors

like i'm seeing a padron of hackers most of all they 90% are playing rex

[minor sentinel]

@noble vortex gang are we dead ass rn?

[noble vortex]

Yes, the spacing around the top, bottom and sides are much smaller, and the space between the buttons male and female is twice the size.

[minor sentinel]

you are losing me on this rn gang

[noble vortex]

dw I got you gang

[minor sentinel]

naw, not helping.

[noble vortex]

lets just say from a graphic design perspective, this = no good spacing

[minor sentinel]

then, add a line? and I'm still not getting it.

[noble vortex]

better and even spacing

[minor sentinel]

I mean, it's nice in all but, know, you said "So much empty space" so that is why I got loss on the smaller space.

[noble vortex]

When I said the comment about there being a lot of empty space, I mean where the logo is on the left, there is a lot of just black

diss !

meawhile the right side is very full

[minor sentinel]

I don't know it's just your attention is mostly the right side so I think that's why they made it like that.

[noble vortex]

It's poor balance

They have a whole screen to work with, so shoving everything to the right like they're running out of room on the edge of a piece of paper no good

https://youtu.be/Dj9c8GgCLmQ?si=fL4-go2ra-WcF6x6

[minor sentinel]

it, just could, be, 1994 art, you know

[noble vortex]

It still can be, while also following good design principles

[minor sentinel]

yeah, but like man, I don't see the need for man.

[noble vortex]

[minor sentinel]

gang, I am more loss

[minor sentinel]

WHY. DOES IT. NEED. BALANCE?

[noble vortex]

this is bait

[minor sentinel]

I'm dead ass rn gang

[indigo gulch]

Question, could this not be considered good because it emphasizes the coloured areas more?

[minor sentinel]

yeah! see!?

[noble vortex]

If you look at the selection screen as a whole, the left side has those rather large empty spaces, where as the right side is very full and even the dino information is almost touching the edge of the screen and it feels cramped. Overall, it's poor balance and the right side should be given more room to breathe at the very least

[gentle briar]

So sorry if that's your only problem ^^

The spacing between individual buttons xD

Sorry, the devs probably have more important things to do
^.-

[noble vortex]

It's not, he was just asking about the specific section

and didn't understand

[indigo gulch]

Hmm that’s fair I suppose. But putting them all together like this can create an organized feel right? Or would you rather put something else in the black areas?

[noble vortex]

that would be nice, especially with the menu screen I miss having the dinos playing in the background

[gentle briar]

Sorry, but something is the least of my problems right now.
Such purely cosmetic things that can be visually adjusted at any time.

I understand what you mean, but that's unimportant right now.

??

[noble vortex]

I put a video on balance desing fundamentals if you're interested in that

[minor sentinel]

yeah

[noble vortex]

feedback is feedback? and the UI is something important

I am free to give my feedback on things I would personally like changed, thats what the channel is for, others have also commented about this, and I think it's abit rude and silly for you to having nothing to say other than "doesn't matter devs have better things to do" meanwhile they just put this on horde test a few days ago

[wise rune]

i thikn u have a good point, the plain black backround rlly doesnt do it for me and it feels empty in some areas and overcrowded in others

[gentle briar]

Feedback is feedback, and that's true xD I can't argue with that, but wouldn't it be better to post it on another channel where it would be seen or heard more? Did they post it there for likes, too?

[wise rune]

im sure they'll iron out most of the inconsistencies with the ui as its still new though

[noble vortex]

yes! :) some people even went as far as to make their own concepts which I think is lovely that they used their time on it #general-feedback message

[wise rune]

like for example in game the ui in the bottom right (stam, etc) is slightly higher from the bottom than it is from the side of the screen, and it looks weird

[noble vortex]

Yes, as someone who is rather OCD I would love that

Overall I'm really happy they're working on it, the UI did need an update and I like the direction they're kinda going with it

I'm just nitpicking

[minor sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/deadass-kratos-are-you-serious-gif-17416856702588199050

[gentle briar]

good thx for the link ^^

[noble vortex]

of course, there are some other really nice concepts others have made too if you look for them

my suggestion is small in comparison to theirs

[wise rune]

?

[minor sentinel]

GANG, WE DEAD, ASS RN!?

[gentle briar]

That's true. I've seen a lot of different concepts in the last few days.

I liked a lot of them.

But I think that at the moment, the focus is on the basic technique before cosmetic aspects are implemented.

[noble vortex]

if that were the case they wouldn’t be updating the UI right now on horde and would probably stick with the old one

[wise rune]

what

[noble vortex]

I’m pretty sure he is rage baiting

[minor sentinel]

you what I had a enough for this

it is 5:00 AM we stated this at 3:40

[wise rune]

i just got here

im literally jus putting my opinion here

[minor sentinel]

And no, this is not baiting

[wise rune]

then explain why ur saying that

[minor sentinel]

because I'm struggling't understand

[wise rune]

alr then say that, 1 sec

[minor sentinel]

and you want to know why?

[wise rune]

it just doesnt look neat with it being so close on the sides and not the same distance on the bottom

[noble vortex]

I can I unsee it, the spacing of the diet hexagons look slightly off

[minor sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/dunfb-uncanny-uncanny-cat-cat-gif-11115925002983264063

[noble vortex]

The y and b hexagons are definitely a little further apart

[wise rune]

oh ew ur right

[minor sentinel]

gang we ,yes we as a community, knew the new UI was coming for 2 years, and nothing not even a word but the sec it's the game it just "burn down the UI" and the fact that I've seen people complaining about the chat box (I'm dead ass about that btw) is testing my patience with the community and the love for the isle. I love the isle, but the community, the god damn community man. I always feel like I have to sick with majority opinion or I'm a fanboy. you make a good point about something? "you are a Fanboy" it's like I can't like the game for what it is. just so damn mentally draining to talk to some people in this community at times.

[cedar echo]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-the-cat-tongue-silly-gif-12392253191548833774

[noble vortex]

people have said positive stuff too, also people cant critique or give feedback on something they haven’t seen yet

[minor sentinel]

the pofffle pic

[cedar echo]

u like it?

[minor sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/meh-mediocre-so-so-kinda-maybe-gif-13935570

[cedar echo]

https://tenor.com/view/british-cop-screaming-screaming-sad-gif-1879411192175791821

[minor sentinel]

gang, this is the isle community we are talking about.

[wise rune]

umm i don't know why you're directing this at me though, I'm just making observations on something that realistically should've been more polished than it is rn.

i want it to be good because i was excited for it for ages, im not saying to "burn it down" i just want it to be improved, and chatting here and giving feedback is a good way to get that message across : )

[cedar echo]

For a serious response to this. I don't think you realise though, for the timeframe they have had to develop it, it isn't up to snuff.

[noble vortex]

so what, tha don’t matter, feedback helps.. don’t you want the game to improve? if they didn’t want feedback they wouldn’t have channels for it

[cedar echo]

but, in saying that. It's still in development so we can't be SUPER harsh

but we definitely have the right to point out things that look weird, but yeah. people that are crying about how it looks and say stuff like "ewwwwww go back to the old one" are stupid

[wise rune]

yeah most of us know its not the final iteration, we just want it to be at the point where we can say "yeah this is what we wanted for the new ui"

[minor sentinel]

naww you good just venting, that all, and it's 5:30 AM

[noble vortex]

without that feedback we would have gotten the camera changes
-# shiver

[cedar echo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1154965294859690110/1374253983773884438/9ukhar.gif

[wise rune]

no worries

[noble vortex]

this

[minor sentinel]

no, the feedback channels the most peaceful part of the community, I have been through a rabbit hole for the DEVBLOG-DISCUSSION.

[noble vortex]

well you can also choose not to interact with people too, people will be people

there is a saying “let them” since you can’t really control or change someone just let them be who they are but you can also make that choice to ignore them or walk away or whatever you feel like doing

[minor sentinel]

yeah

[noble vortex]

some people can be really tough to interact with, just gotta do your best to not let it bug ya

[minor sentinel]

yeah but the Devblogs are well "a thing"

[noble vortex]

I hear you though, with the community stuff

people are very enthusiastic at times

[minor sentinel]

or very mad

[noble vortex]

that to lol

[minor sentinel]

like I've seen people that would just repeat the same thing over 90x times and it would be something like "The dev are R-words" or something

[noble vortex]

well that’s very not nice or helpful

[minor sentinel]

yeah, and this one time, I said "you know it is bad when dondi is jumping out of a widow because triike isn't out yet" and someone said. in quote said "I hope he is on the 7th floor" so he or she, may or may not wished death on someone because they made bad company decisions...

[noble vortex]

well that’s says a lot about them as a person imo, wishing that on anyone isn’t cool

[minor sentinel]

yeah

[spiral scaffold]

did prime conditions change ? I just can't seem to get a prime beipi to save my life

[worldly ginkgo]

@limber hull what is the issue with kouga's UI concept?

[limber hull]

it doesn't fit the thematics of the game

gives me more COD vibes than anything tbh

the game isn't going for "modern AAA video game", it's going for "80s-90s old-fashioned computer"

to me, Kouga has entirely misinterpreted the thematic design of the UI redesign in the first place

[worldly ginkgo]

Ah I see, I get your point, though I feel like taking a inspiration from MS DOS fashioned ui could take it a further step

though I feel like this is the path they already want

yet the execution gives me a mix of quirky indie game but triple A quality attempt

the way they do it in the trail cams vids is the way it should be followed\

[edgy flax]

why is it going for old fashioned computer

why is the ingame ui so not old fashioned computer

[barren zephyr]

Diablo ai on?

[icy lion]

@slow hare Check the pinned messages in #evrima-eu to see how to report hackers, locations must be shared with us privately

[slow hare]

but do i also get my 3 weeks worth trike back?

[icy lion]

An admin would have to review whatever footage you have

[slow hare]

footage?

u mean their logs?

[icy lion]

Do you have a recording of your death?

[slow hare]

how would i record my own death by a random hacker 😒

thjats what logs are for gladly

also how do i check pinned messages

:x

[icy lion]

Click the thumbtack icon in the top right of that channel

[hidden pilot]

#general-feedback message @dusky swift
That's the plan, according to Don

[covert lantern]

medal ?

[night raptor]

I think you can absolutely like what you like about the game and say it out loud. But that's just you though.

Objectively, the UI is simply far from visually appealing and very low effort (Idc about the in-game menu. I haven't seen a lot of it.).
And I think that they should remake it and take inspiration from Kouga's redesign. That genuinely looks like the UI of a game that improved. Too bad the wrong game is using it.

And the only problem with saying what you like is praising the devs. If you look back in previous updates, they have done nothing but feel the game like absolute cheeks over the years (Update 3 and 4 were only good because people were still falling in love with the game and they were still genuinely enjoying it). And so far, this has not changed. Treat them the same way they been treating the players.
The only thing worth praising them for are their models and graphics, I guess...

and recently I saw a screenshot of a dev answering a question about the limited skins so I guess they proved me wrong on how they never listen to us.

Guess there are some devs in that team that are willing to listen to the players...

They used to only make a step forward and two backwards.

Now they took a whole 5 years back in time.

[minor sentinel]

ngl Kouga's redesign is too JWE1 like for

[night raptor]

idk what that is

[minor sentinel]

you what I mean now.

[night raptor]

oh

call me crazy but I would much rather have that.

[minor sentinel]

bro... what?

[night raptor]

yeah. Game's still in early access right? I think it would fit.

[minor sentinel]

no, no it would not.

[night raptor]

That one looks pretty high effort tbh. Compared to what we got.

[minor sentinel]

It just don't look right for the isle.

[night raptor]

Yeah, you right. The current UI fits the current state of the game.

At least they got rid of the same trailer we been seeing for the last 5 years. That's a plus.

[minor sentinel]

naw I like the trailer.

[night raptor]

It got kinda boring after all these years. Especially cuz most of the time it was just frozen.

Anyways. Time to disappear again until the next update bomb drops where something else breaks. Gonna lurk and see people's opinions on the Allo.

[minor sentinel]

k

[gloomy cipher]

@night hollow i agree that dibble shouldnt be able to knock over a stego, but maia and dibble use their stun differently, maia is heavier but maia doesnt have much force into the stuns, dibble puts a lot more force into the stuns, and either way people keep forgetting that maia is just a big galli, you arent really supposed to fight

wheras dibble has no choice to run away from any fight, you have to fight whatever is attacking you

[outer yacht]

Why is a kill button so controversial? It’s just like jumping off a cliff except quicker

[gentle flint]

People are afraid the salty will abuse it to body deny or get out of a fight instead of letting their attacker actually get the kill.

Or additionally, people think that they will use it to stack bodies that they can go feast on as they respawn.

[pliant idol]

Is anyone else having an issue with their cursor disappearing when you join a server?

[pliant elm]

The cursor only appears when using chat (Enter) or opening your status (Tab)

[pliant idol]

I’m in the spawn menu and I have no cursor to select a Dino

[pliant elm]

Oh, that's really weird

Try leaving the game in windowed mode

[pliant idol]

Nesting isnt working?

[patent blade]

Anyone else that gets the message about "steam subsystem failure"? In the main menu it says to make sure steam is running and to restart the pc

[spiral scaffold]

yes

It must be being cause by one of new updates

[patent blade]

I could at least try to play the game yesterday, now not even that 😂

[limber hull]

it isnt an update, its some kind of massive scale blackout for multiple games. Roblox, Fortnite and other steam games are also affected

[spiral scaffold]

what do you mean? whats going on?

[patent blade]

oh, that sounds bad

[limber hull]

its impacted legacy and EVRIMA too

[patent blade]

Someone is getting whooped at Valve today

[limber hull]

well, its not Valve's issue, because its not just impacting Valve

[patent blade]

good point

[amber yarrow]

did u solve it? i have the same problem

[median vector]

It’s a cyber attack

[patent blade]

either way, thanks for the intel, guess all we can do is wait

[median vector]

Yep

[tall vine]

@snow venture i've been there, if u relog, u are saved from their grasp

[gleaming garden]

my msg ws not included...

okay anyway, prime elder should not be left to pure luck, its meant to be an archievement where if a player lives a perfect (or near enough) life they will be rewarded with a prime elder status, one that sits above all the others.
Frail shouldnt be as weak as it is now, (which is prolly why u feel like ur being pushed) but prime should not be up to luck
all in all prime is still an optional thing, ur js 1000x better off getting it @worldly remnant

[hollow vine]

agreed. having prime be luck based and seeing 1 once a month makes me wonder why we would even have prime at all then

[wooden agate]

yeah, absolutely not worth the effort they took to make if you see them that rarely

[gleaming garden]

exactly, esp if frail elder is still a part of the game, theres just no reward, you grow, dont get prime, and either die bc ur weak or entomb and repeat
plus its removing the requirements which actually make players whom are younger travel a lot more

[hollow vine]

yup, i agree that frail elder should not get this heavily nerfed compared to normal elder example trike fg ( not elder) is 900 biteforce but the frail elder goes down to 540 like bruh... really?

have prime elder lose like 10% biteforce and frail elder 20% instead of frail losing 40% and prime 20%

[gleaming garden]

^^^^^

[hollow vine]

it would still make a difference between normal adult and a frail one without making the frail one completely useless.

if u hit frail now its just sit in a bush and wait to entomb

[gleaming garden]

although prime elder doesnt need the biteforce loss imo, it has more hp than an adult so its like yea prime elder usually wins im pretty sure

[hollow vine]

agreed it does need biteforce loss but it shouldnt be to big since u still worked hard to get the prime status

[gleaming garden]

yea

[hollow vine]

a frail elder vs a normal fg adult the advantage should be with the normal fg but the frail shouldnt just be dead meat

it should still be able to put up a fight but have the odds slightly against him since he is old and weaker

not outright oh ure frail yea buddy u ded

it should be oh look there is 2 trikes there eating i can see a frail elder and a normal adult lets go for the elder it shouldnt be oh look a frail elder hehe he dead meat

thats just motivating people to sit in a bush after hitting 75% growth and bushcamping till u can entomb there is no gameplay there

u actually want the frail elders to walk around so primes have a beter option to hunt instead of also hunting other primes

not leave it defenseless so they all cower in a bush

[gleaming garden]

yep!!!
its kinda sad

[hollow vine]

yep

not that u can bushcamp with all these cheaters running rampant

[covert patrol]

just came back to check if ptera is still dead af and unable to turn with wonky camera? ie player npc food/chatroom dino stilll?

[indigo gulch]

I’ve seen my friend kill fg carno’s with it, but I think the wonky camera thing depends on how you perceive it

[desert arch]

It just got a huge stam buff
Dare I say like a 10x stam increase

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

"remove saltwater mutation for everyone to give specifically deino a feature like it"

doesn't seem very fair

[wintry cipher]

1. everyone being able to get saltwater gives deino the potential to hunt prey that also drink saltwater

2. there are 3 other water mutations that make you able to completely avoid freshwater.

I dont think the issue is salt water which creates more engagement

[livid burrow]

This would only really work if my other mangrove suggestion was implemented i guess. That would provide a reason to go to the coast for food and juveniles, not just people wanting the salt water mutation. There would be even more engagement for deino if that was the case but as the map is now and how the mutations currently work % wise i can understand the downvotes

I don't really care about something being fair if it makes sense. Like a stego tail swing taking you out 1 shot if you get whacked in the face on certain dinosaurs. I'm not really happy with the values of the mutations and how they work overall at the moment

[urban flax]

<@&933486433342222376>

[indigo gulch]

You are correct with 1, but ocean water is so clear and the edges are so shallow that you can barely get prey anyways. (tho im sure there is some spots it would work, I dont know EVERY edge on the map XD)

[wintry cipher]

Theres been some rather funny videos with deinos hunting in the salt rivers and using the rocks for cover

[urban flax]

#general-feedback message
Everytime an update drops people forget literally everything that happened before it
That's The Isle's magic

[wind mesa]

#general-feedback message @proud coral love the honesy idea but i do think it will need a very big reward to make it worth it, with how dangerous sancs are going to be with elders coming out!

I'd like to add it would be cool if hypsi could eat those nuts that grow up super high on trees, but only the outside shell of the nuts. This would let the other parts- that bigger dinos eat- fall to the ground, allowing previously inaccessible food become available to them.

Would enable some fun mixpack interactions without it being abused! (after all, it's a hypsi.)

also incredible work on that picture

[proud coral]

Oh definitely! I always imagined it being a more "above-average" kinda food. Lotta food for such a small critter.
I also agree with the nuts idea. I really really want them to explore more stuff like that (which is weird because I think the sunflowers and radish roots are supposed to be like that but they're kinda buggy)

And thank you I figured the lil Hypsi would get some attention to the idea

[wind mesa]

Definetly! smaller dinos need way more fun interactions with the ecosystem to make them actually playable. How many hyspi's / gallis / pteras / dryos do you normally see? Far more development needs to be put into their playstyles, than just running around and being an annoying rat xD
Troodon is an exception to this cus i saw 3 of those murk two fg rexes the other day lol.

[tawny dirge]

weel picking prime with alot of hackers in this days i think its more difficult

they even not try to gide anymore, literally one rex go to 2 adult trikes

and kill both in 2 bites

[cunning crown]

Also, to avoid afking being the easiest way and safest to grow a dinosaur I think exploration should be rewarded with growth boost, otherwise why should I expose myself to dangers when I can just be afk for 3 hours in the chill?
It takes the same amount of time to grow while exposing myself, I don't really see benefits in doing that except for prime which is debatable since a fg rex can take down almost everything in the roaster even with weakened stats

[grave portal]

Guys did that 4 gb update Today fix the lagging ?

[north reef]

no

[iron knoll]

is the rubber banding fixed?

nvm, lol wasnt loading teh message above

[wintry cipher]

@signal jetty just a guess on my part but the devs have said in the past they need updated things like elders and UI in before they move Evrima to main branch. So yes, they are working on that and I'm personally hoping to see it by the end of the year, but we'll see how it shapes up

[wooden agate]

i dont think it'll happen before the end of the year but i think its very likely to happen in 2026

considering they were waiting on a full gameplay loop, which elders provide for the most part

[wintry cipher]

Yep

[night hollow]

yet a 1600kg teno can knock them over as well though. I'm just saying that maia needs a little bit of love, or at least be more consistent with weight knock overs and nerf dibble stun/knock over.

[wintry cipher]

...teno cant knock over stego what

[night hollow]

no, the feedback was based on 1300kg cera's/carno's and how a 3.8ton maia in full sprint and shove only stuns them, doesn't knock them over.

[wintry cipher]

Ah yeah that ones a bit odd

Wait were the ceras charge biting ive hunted maia as cerato and ive seen packmates get knocked

Charge bite gives stability

[night hollow]

you can't knock them over at 1300kg, if they are not 100% grown then they can get knocked over

charge bite or not

[wintry cipher]

Its prob to curb maia being used to run stuff down like it was at the start. I do agree its a bit wierd tho

[night hollow]

but teno's can do that now, and they are less than half the weight, with 2nd fastest trot speed as well

Point being, we need some consistency in the knock/stun mechanics

[signal jetty]

thanks for the info

[desert arch]

No, but it fixed the servers crashing every 20 minutes

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-freaking-out-crazy-gif-18183430815852759917

[tawny dirge]

my friend a 700 kg rex can pin down a 1400 kg cerato

nothing its ok

like a rex pin down a 9,5 ton trike with same weight and you have still wait 7-9 seconds pinned down to do some damage

to the rex, its like a joke

[elfin willow]

#general-feedback message

This is a cool concept - and maybe could also get a cool 2nd/4th locked mutation that grants them immunity to the bees and/or the bees do less dmg (have to 'steal' honey multiple times to unlock mutation).

[wooden agate]

@jagged trench

[cinder anchor]

Make the muskie a danger for any juvi

i wish they would

[indigo gulch]

“How can a game be full of bugs after x years of development?” Cuse the bugs also got x years of development

[queen locust]

#general-feedback message kind of defeats the purpose of knowing who is a prime elder just by looking at them. if frails do get an elder model it should be different than the prime one

[daring harness]

@jagged trench you gota use enter to see %'s now, i totaly think they should scale back the UI to allow us to use tab again, enter is just so far and in a wierd location for mid combat checking

[tawny dirge]

its not only movement thing

they use damage too

like the rexes kiling people with one bite

and they dont try to hide that

[junior nymph]

I don’t think that’s been a thing for a while

[frank tapir]

#general-feedback message that's normal dude

[compact timber]

<@&933486433342222376> #general-feedback message

[latent olive]

#general-feedback message

Good.

[limber hull]

"lean diet"

brother you have every animal on it

[junior nymph]

The parents with 2 and a half hour food drain and the juvies that take literally barely any food to actually fill up

I think by rex family I think they mean 5 subs and 2 primes

[gritty kernel]

its not 2 and a half hours if you're vomiting for hatchlings though

[junior nymph]

It doesn’t make that much of a difference

[gritty kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-9791600234365446047

[junior nymph]

And you could just have like 1-3 hatchlings if it’s too much

What I do is I nest when I have killed something and I’m full food

Not when I’m half food and having nothing to hunt

[gritty kernel]

it is if you're a rex cause that takes a lot to fill up unless you're in the middle of delta

[limber hull]

i mean, it should

since it has the slowest hunger drain in the entire game

[gritty kernel]

I wasn't agreeing to bring dibble ai back I just saying its not 2 and a half hours if you have hatchlings

[wintry cipher]

honestly an in-game friends list would be a good idea tbh. could also give the server filter for friends more use

[wooden agate]

wouldnt mind this tbh

have you guys noticed we never discuss good feedback here.... only the bad....

granted i understand part of that comes from the fact 80% of the feedback is genuinely useless but even then i rarely see much discussion about good feedback outside of "🔗 woag i like this!"

[wintry cipher]

ive noticed as humans its very easy to latch onto negative things usually

and then dig into all the problems

[hushed lantern]

the hord test still laggy af?

[wooden agate]

i believe so yes

[hushed lantern]

fuun

when they say rex is coming to main?

[wooden agate]

yeah i think it's easier to analyze bad takes instead of thinking of ways to elevate already good ideas

[junior nymph]

never

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

"the apex that you advertised to be extremely hard is extremely hard, please fix"

rex should be dying, there's literally too many of them

the ecosystem should not be able to support that number

[desert arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102619485334143006/1429930021144760484/holy_shit2_2.mp4?ex=68f7ed9b&is=68f69c1b&hm=b3388bc2fc47d2e9b80273a3f8a6e09bc9fd57285951b0d3d455d9efb84b6e19&

Average rex pack ^

FIVE prime elder cannibal rexes, plus several juvis

[limber hull]

the sheer fact that we had dozens of rexes per server, prime i might add, when the game should arguably only be having like, a dozen apexes per server MAX is pretty telling of how awful it was for the game

[desert arch]

Was taken yesterday too lol

[limber hull]

yup, without diablo AI they can still thrive

it's just not as ridiculously easy

[junior nymph]

hey remember when people said trike would need nerfs for rex?

[limber hull]

lmao

i genuinely am thankful for diablo AI this HT though, because it really went and showed just how much dino AI shreds the structure of the game's ecosystem

[junior nymph]

lol

I love how it had 1 set spawn

[limber hull]

like the facts are obvious from the literal armies of rexes just chilling out

[limber hull]

frankly if you diversified the spawns i don't know if that'd do anything

[junior nymph]

I wonder what would happen if the dibbles were always on the move?

[limber hull]

not much imho

id argue itd just make server performance worse

lol

[latent olive]

nothing because there’s enough chickens around the feeder to eat them as soon as they spawn

[livid ember]

#general-feedback message @frozen heron the thing is: legacy trike has overall better posture compared to broken necked evrima one. Kissen stated they won't change posture cuz of rex sparring with it (imagine breaking animal anatomy just because rex)

Trike neck in evrima is ok trust

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

somehow, this video returned

[urban flax]

I still haven't watched it
But the thumbnail alone makes me not want to

[limber hull]

the video is remarkably well made

its a shame the content itself doesn't reach the same quality as the presentation

[urban flax]

A summary ?

[limber hull]

add tutorials (valid complaint and the best part of the entire video)
spiro > gateway (lol. lmao)
roster and roadmap bad because not every playable is a mid-tier land dino
baseless accusations against dondi, explicitly citing sources that are biased against him

[urban flax]

I see

[minor sentinel]

3 words DAY. OF. DRAGONS.

[vital laurel]

@final valve the new player section is good, but a lot is just doomer digs that arent constructive or really that good faith, its just a farm for more views

[minor sentinel]

"baseless accusations against dondi, explicitly citing sources that are biased against him" like?

[limber hull]

what about it lmao

[urban flax]

The Isle is a shameless copy of Day of Dragons

[limber hull]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-american-psycho-oh-obviously-donald-kimball-gif-10547554943860686477

[minor sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/lelouch-lelouch-crying-ts-so-ass-ass-crying-gif-6181619894187492041

[low olive]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-black-gif-16157574073784775040

[opal kestrel]

My favorite part of the video which no one really knows about, is that people like me and Meta (Screenshot Provided) were asked to provide some thoughts on the isle for that video. Metta actually got an interview and said some good things about the game (privacy don't feel like sharing her messages ect).
What Zenny did was ignore everything that was said because it went against his talking points in the video.

So he interviewed creators who discussed and did ect in the Isle and then ignored them and basically copy pasted that one thread in the Isle Reddit and shoved that into a word document. Honestly cannot fault the guy.
It is amazing how much goes down behind the scenes of videos like this. I love it every time.

[minor sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

[low olive]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[limber hull]

its actually AMAZING how poorly researched the video was, like literally the basis for an entire hit-piece on the devs comes from a reddit thread with absolutely no sources

the same video which very competently showed the need for tutorials by showing the new player experience SEVERAL times over and asking for feedback too

[gleaming garden]

sad how ppl are js dumb

[limber hull]

like he genuinely had a decent point there

shame it was covered with all the spiro glaze, weird takes on the ecosystem and unfounded rumors

[gleaming garden]

yea

[opal kestrel]

I do enjoy the argument by Zenny that Spiro the map made by Dondi is the best map, but gateway the map made by jay is bad and that is dondis fault.

I agree that his point on the new players experience was valid, but that is true for literally every game that exists. Every game has a learning curve, the bare minimum requirement of game knowledge to play the game (Which a part of the game is figuring this out)
What the isle actually needed and the failure that I hope the new UI fixes was tool tips that tell you what something is and what it does.

This is a gastrolith it will speed up your hunger decay for a little bit. Perfect. how the player would use that is completely up to them.

[limber hull]

yea, this is valid, the issue pertains more to knowing what the hell things do

like, you don't need to be told "eat a gastrolith to lower your diet so you can make more space for dietary food, thus increasing your growth speed and other bonuses"

just "gastroliths will increase the rate at which your hungers decay but not your nutrients" and most players can put together what they've learned so far from that

[opal kestrel]

Exactly. I get what the isle is going for.
You load in, spooky scary.
You learn to sniff, you see symbols, you run to said symbols, go from there.

I feel the immediate disconnect is that while maybe to the devs and people like me, if I sniff and see a symbol for some palm tree location, I am going to head there to find out what it is.
For some people they can't or don't want to do that, and then feel like they missed out on the gameplay. As you very nicely wrote it, just the simple hey lets have a look at this.
Old Legend of Zelda had it, yeah the fairy was annoying but just the basic we should do this, kept it in the back of my mind while exploring, that thought of yeah I really should go do this in a second.

[latent olive]

quick thoughts on my flesh grazing idea

i didn’t put any forethought into the idea

[limber hull]

Honestly, you could make it even easier

Change the gastrolith status effect display in the char menu to

• Ingesting gastrolith, hunger rate increased

Literally simple as that, yet it means the players realise "oh, that's what it does", then they start thinking "why would they add that? How can I use that?"

[urban flax]

Permanent damage is eh

It prevents teaming, makes everything else insufferable

[urban flax]

The issue lies in the "then they start thinking" bit

[limber hull]

Well then they can do what every kid did back in the Nintendo days

Find a guide

The fact of the matter is that the joy of people who DO want to explore the world and what it has to offer should be retained

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

now i really wanna see/hear this dog

[final valve]

I guess, but the main points are:

1. Good Tutorial needed
2. A smaller map needed or somehow increase player density
3. Better AI spawning

[desert arch]

I think youll be delighted to know that in the hordetest they cut off ~25% of the map

[final valve]

yoo 🔥

[indigo gulch]

they did? What part did they cut

[wintry cipher]

The entire north part of the map and all islands got removed.

[desert arch]

West access is completely gone, every single outer island is gone, the massive beach part of north east is gone. And Im probably missing something else but I cant quite remember

[wintry cipher]

There were so many pictures posted of the diff where did those go

[desert arch]

Oh yeah north west ridge is gone too, and basically the whole area north of water access

[wintry cipher]

You can walk 5 seconds from west rail and hit coastline

[indigo gulch]

wait west access is gone? Noooo I kinda liked that place

[desert arch]

If it means more fps, delete another half of the map😄

[indigo gulch]

or get a better gaming laptop x)

[wintry cipher]

I migrated and lived on the north side of the map and around north lake and east swamp the map changes upset me by disrupting my gameplay hugely in specific lmao

Now ive been going mostly around east swamp, delta, and swamp

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

what an insane way to completely invalidate trike

imagine having the same stam as rex despite being not even remotely as fast

[pliant idol]

Is the AI on NA3 not enabled anymore? Ever since the server crashed last night I have not seen or heard any AI

[heady idol]

LMAO

[heady idol]

i noticed that too, ever since people said the servers crashed, there's rarely been any ai, barely even any goats up at hl anymore

everywhere i've traveled, there's been barely any ai

[pliant idol]

I had to log out cause nothing was spawning in the same area that everything was spawning yesterday

after the server crashed there hasn't been anything

[heady idol]

same

i had to change to playing as herbi or omnivore on most servers

i'm mainly an omnivore to help others due to lack of ai

when i was at stonehaven previously, barely anything was there, whereas there's usually tons of food

i think the ai discussion goes in ai-feedback and/or ai-feedback-discussion anyway

[pliant idol]

oh true true

theyre restarting servers anyway so maybe that'll fix ai

[frozen heron]

Of course
I would really like trike if they didn't break its neck for the sake of rex then

[chilly anchor]

My mouse is gone aftre i join a server and so i cant pick an dino on hordetest. is this a new bug?

[noble verge]

is horde test still so laggy ?

[ivory nacelle]

Lots of rubber banding yeah

[vocal urchin]

can you get prime elder on NA 3 hordetest my friend is saying that they disabled it or smth

[grave portal]

primes rexes bite force is not going up it stays at 850 thats not normal

[gentle ocean]

Any reason on why they're gutting so many Dino colors? I've noticed we're lsoing a lot more color expression

[icy shuttle]

@full comet (and everyone else interested), fluid deficiency goes away eventually if you drink more saltwater, getting rid of it like this is also a requirement of the reniculate kidneys (able to drink saltwater) mutation

[full comet]

yeah it goes away when u fully commit to drinking salt water and puking enough to unlock the muts. it sucks.

i left the beach cuz i was hungry and now my deino has this deficiency for life

[icy shuttle]

That is kind of the reason people should not drink saltwater at all unless they want the mutation
For deino/beipi who take in water while swimming, haven't thought about that tbh

[full comet]

either way i dislike that feature. should be a cool down same as muscle spasms

[patent blade]

is it just me or there's just one server available on HT and its locked?

[median flax]

@tropic pewter press the windows key, your mose will appear and you can select stuff on the menu

[tropic pewter]

Thx

[median flax]

@idle marlin carno can easily knock over 1 ton, the trike was probably a lot bigger than you expected

[junior nymph]

@autumn blaze ptera stam on Hordetest is insane

[autumn blaze]

oh ok they fixing it?

[junior nymph]

fixed*

[autumn blaze]

ah chill ok nvm then

[junior nymph]

it has sooo much stam

[autumn blaze]

I don't play hordetest that's why

[junior nymph]

ah yea

[sudden plume]

Hordtest - Health doesn't change from green even when hurt, you can tell only by the blood on screen or wounded status.

[spiral scaffold]

oh shiz not mutations

[normal shuttle]

Make utahraptor deal bonus true damage

That’s my two cents

[urban flax]

source ?

[limber hull]

the hell is true damage

[normal shuttle]

I made it up

[urban flax]

The opposite of fake damage duh

[urban flax]

Prove it

[normal shuttle]

League brainrot

[normal shuttle]

I said it, say my name now

[normal shuttle]

Damage ignoring any armor, straight to the health bar

[urban flax]

Actually a lot of games have "true damage", I'm surprised an actual game dev ™ doesn't know about it

[normal shuttle]

He got caught

Bought diploma

Honestly I should have said Utah should deal bonus magic damage and everyone would get it right on the spot

[junior nymph]

what

[normal shuttle]

Me making my monthly appearance (I wanna be around more often)

[junior nymph]

yay

[normal shuttle]

Anyways, time to do something serious

Within the context of dinosaur indie game suggestions

[urban flax]

Bruh magic damage is so bad
Can't damage buildings
Everything has at least 25% magic resistance
Not affected by attack bonus modifiers
It's utter crap, omni doesn't deserve that

[normal shuttle]

I mean the upcoming Utah

Maybe it could be like that and also gain a little bit of extra armor with some stacks on consecutive hits

And attack speed

[urban flax]

crit chance is better

[normal shuttle]

Yeah

[icy lion]

"can't damage buildings" my brother hasn't studied the explosive arts 🙏🙏🙏 get out of my fortress

[normal shuttle]

And also maybe some lifesteal

On its ultimate

So it can snowball games pretty hard if played correctly

[urban flax]

I stand by what I said
Magic can deal physical damage (the better magic)

[normal shuttle]

Now, what about creating some mutation shop to build your character properly and more efficiently than with plain mutations

All using isle coins

[limber hull]

did you see the suggestion actually posted

because that's a real thing recently posted

[normal shuttle]

No

Barely had any time to check the channel

WHAT??? I need to see it

Oh I see it now. Glorious

[plucky saddle]

Trike mutations are bugged on HT. Can't select first mut.

[icy lion]

Known issue

[plucky saddle]

Good to know, thanks!

[icy lion]

@austere latch Check the pinned messages in the official server channels to see how to report hackers, and an in-game report button is in the works

[wintry cipher]

Just posting this here for good measure

[vital laurel]

@fading pecan they’ve pushed like 10 patches without patch notes since devblog, if not more, they did a ban wave on hackers and the devs have fixed multiple hacks, why do you think the hackers are in groups and full grown dinos when they attack now? Because they can’t be a baby cerato that runs at Mach 50 and deals 9 million damage form 10 meters away

[steep canopy]

make it not rain every 5 mins

[limpid bear]

lmao the new update somehow made the rubberbanding worse

[limber hull]

ive had zero problems with rubberbanding thusfar, weird

[chrome quail]

what do u think about allo being 36kmh

[limpid bear]

im on a server in my area and its so bad llol

[limber hull]

its fine given it 100% has murder sprint

it's gonna have huge bursts of speed thanks to it

[limpid bear]

btw can u relook at my general feedback made some adjustments

[chrome quail]

yes but its gonna have like cooldown like rexes

[limber hull]

good lol

it better have a cooldown lmao

[chrome quail]

frlol

[limpid bear]

i hope allos pin doesnt pin everything bellow it auto kill mechanics are so ahh

[limber hull]

do i have funny news

in the brief moments we got allo, one of them managed to instapin another allo

allo PvP is gonna be HYSTERICAL

both allos were freshspawn, so its not like one had a size advantage

[chrome quail]

true but it will have a 2x Weight limit for pinning i hope

[chrome quail]

when waa this

[limber hull]

on a stream

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1430484480384045187/engagingallogameplay.gif?ex=68f9f1fd&is=68f8a07d&hm=55a68ca8339ff5cb1b98a662c0f9004e76fdefbf57845fdc4fdb84ee8d007142&

its already got a gif about it lmao

[chrome quail]

this recent like this month?

[limber hull]

like a few hours ago

[chrome quail]

oh it is HOW did they get allo

[chrome quail]

u got the vid?

[limpid bear]

ht is so flipping broken

genuinely makes me cry

[limber hull]

QA server for like 2 minutes

[wintry cipher]

Allo slipped its chain for one second and caused absolute havoc. Lordy the apocalypse is coming...

[chrome quail]

? nah no way lmao

[limber hull]

there's no real gameplay, the most interesting thing to happen to the allo was it got pinned lmao

[limpid bear]

vid?

i hate insta pin mechanics sm

[limber hull]

i cannot be bothered to find it, its a lightclaw stream, and you're probably gonna be disappointed if you do see it

ive shown you the only part of the allo segment where anything happens

lightclaw got instapinned

[limpid bear]

damn

[limber hull]

then the server went down

thats it

[limpid bear]

ht performance is worse than before the update for me rn

[limber hull]

i finding the performance fine

better ping, better FPS

ptera is now a ghost tho which is a funny bug

[limpid bear]

Yk the whole elder system with the way it’s designed just seems to want to este my time

[limber hull]

idk if its ptera exclusive

[limpid bear]

*waste

like troo is just ruined

[vestal terrace]

ui still doesn't fit screen, and they removed west, north, whatever?

actually the ui got worse. I can't even access the most important part of the game.
(ALSO, ui stopped being green for some reason. I did not change it)

[icy lion]

In-game UI doesn't have custom colors, and the mutation issue is being worked on

[swift raft]

Did troo get another nerf?

[pure ice]

did they reset the na servers?

[calm moon]

I send to feedback the concept of interface so what do you think guys

I just wanna know cuz I want to make with different color

[limpid bear]

no but elder system ruins it

[wintry cipher]

@young jacinth

[young jacinth]

ahhh thank you

wipe so sad

[novel geyser]

Where do Zanorak post?

[wintry cipher]

#isle-discussion like the other devs do

[novel geyser]

TY

[idle marlin]

it was one of those tiny deablo things it was small and even if it was 2 tons it should be knocked over cuz of how stuby the legs are it's just stupid how weak carnos are against herbies

[young jacinth]

also seems like if you had a dino on a server you cant join said server since update just constant "connecting to server" best part is theres no back button and ESC does nothing :)))

[swift raft]

Oh yea I’m with u on that one!

So trying to get on HT - I select server, get in, but my mouse arrow disappears when I get to the playables selection screen.

This a known bug?

[eternal ingot]

Yes use alt tab to get it to appear again

[swift raft]

thnx for confirming this, unfortunately it keeps happening for me. hope some more updates drop soon

[severe sky]

literally was just coming here to ask this too..even alt-tabbing or doing anything wasn't fixing it, kept having to alt F4 to even exit the game

[static comet]

have they fix the bug were the mutations don't show ?

[severe sky]

nah

also spearfishing seems to be disabled

[wintry cipher]

It doesnt work at night on purpose

[faint ruin]

I am concerned about some of the recent decisions made in the game. For example, changes to the interface seem unnecessary, and reducing the slots on the official servers by removing players’ dinosaurs has been frustrating. Overall, it appears that the administration may not be sufficiently attentive to the players and the community.

[wooden agate]

to be frank its not up to the community

like sorry, this is not a crowdfunded game, we dont get to dictate every little thing the devs do especially in regards to things that have very little impact on gameplay (such as the UI changes)

its actually kind of the perfect time to get the UI laid out as elders (the last main big mechanic for the dinosaurs) are now in hordetesting, meaning the UI is likely to somewhat stay the same now without many more additions

in regards to big updates, like the 'mutations tab' being added with diablo, etc

[median flax]

carno? weak against herbis? first time im saying this but genuine skill issue

carno can knock way over its bodyweight

[idle marlin]

well that's not what happened

i fought a teno and didn't knock it over

[median flax]

how big were you

[idle marlin]

full grown

[median flax]

prime elder or adult

[idle marlin]

idk how to see elder

[median flax]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-frustrated-wolf-of-wall-street-annoyed-smh-gif-9553858

[leaden violet]

Were you 100% grown or somewhere above 75%?

[idle marlin]

im 100%

[leaden violet]

So you were elder... did you have 3 mutations or 4?

[idle marlin]

idk why but my 3erd just didn't unlock

[leaden violet]

So you picked 3 mutations

Wait, I guess I should ask if you are talking Hordetest or normal Evrima

[idle marlin]

normal

i didn't pick my 4th never came

[leaden violet]

And it wont on normal, can only get that to unlock on Hordetest atm

So full grown Teno weights more than a full grown Carno

You can not knock down something that weighs more than you as a Carno

[idle marlin]

that's dumb

[leaden violet]

That does not mean that you can not do damage with the charge, you just wont knock it over and get a free follow up attack

[median flax]

you can spam stun it

@idle marlin lowkey i think its just lack of practice on your end

watch some carno tutorials

carno is more than capable

[idle marlin]

i wish ppl didn't spam cera...

hunt cera for 30 minutes and then find out half of the server is ceras

[median flax]

play the hordetest

carno can like 3v1 ceras there

[idle marlin]

the servers suck

im not rubberbanding ever 3 secs...

[small furnace]

if your on servers for your reigion it shouldnt be bad but you will just have to deal half the server being rexes

[idle marlin]

no i was on a 30 ping server and was rubber banding like hell

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

what even is a charged heavy attack in this game??

[minor sentinel]

@errant canopy that just a bug

[drifting rose]

@stark snow kissens mentioned in the past that their focused on building the game up in terms of mechanics,and general functionality so i dont expect more suvival aspects to come to the game unless its through a mechanic, or its part of a dinosaurs kit, like how water sources and water mechanics got a tuned up when deino came into the mix

[pliant elm]

@mortal anchor Quiet. If you talk, they'll fix it

[frail compass]

The iron bridge downstream of the reservoir. When you walk on it, the bridge deck will disappear and then fall into the bridge hole

Would anyone like to give it a try？

hordetesting EU1

[limber hull]

let's hope they do fix it lol

[pliant elm]

Nah

Ptera can no longer "harass" anyone on the ground, so it's fair that it has at least infinite stam

[limber hull]

i don't think that's a valid tradeoff

"it can't do something it was never supposed to anymore, so instead it should just not have to engage with a core mechanic"

[pliant elm]

But it is. One of the things that kept the Ptera fun for many has been removed. Now it can literally just fly, it must be extremely good at it Or it will probably be forgotten like Dryo and Hypsi

[limber hull]

hypsi isnt forgotten, people still play it, like me

also dryo is unfair argument because unlike ptera, it doesn't have its core mechanic functional

ofc people don't play it

[pliant elm]

Hypsi, even with the new climbing mechanic, is forgotten and always will be, because he is extremely weak and the only thing he can do is run around and see others, and spit on them. Sure, there will still be some who play with them, but not many

[limber hull]

"is forgotten and always will be"

people like different things. you dont play hypsi, good for you, but others do

[pliant elm]

This is kind of the end that every playable becomes from the point where he can only watch others play instead of being able to go out there and try something

Beipi too

They are fun to play every now and then only

Troodon for example, even as small as they are, is still completely different in gameplay both solo and in groups, For being able to do something instead of watching others having fun

[limber hull]

beipi has one of the best bleed damage of any animal in the game

honestly just sounds like you don't like small animals

because as a small animal, you should get used to the idea of not being a particularly lethal threat

i love small animals, personally

[plucky surge]

I think this game might beat Ark popularity well it should

[reef bay]

@opaque inlet really great idea to make the late game more interesting and intense

[gleaming garden]

ppl interest me to say the least
-# god i feel weird saying that

[gleaming garden]

@limpid bear can i ask why u say that frail elders shouldnt lose their full adult speed????

[limpid bear]

cause they become quite literally unplayable u cant say a 32kmh raptor is right

[urban flax]

There's a middle ground between being slow as hell and not losing speed as all

But it seems islecord doesn't do middle grounds

[gleaming garden]

i will say it shouldnt be decreased as much but do you think that an elder that deteriorates with every aspect, irl or in game, should have the same top speed as a fully mature adult???
if you were say any animal and a very old and frail elder of the species, ur leg muscles wouldve deteriorated correct?? therefore no matter what u cannot run nearly as fast as a fully mature adult of the same species

[limpid bear]

i was on the losing less speed but im so fed up now

[limpid bear]

im so fed up of frail elders idc anymore

[gleaming garden]

exactly
prime elder speed reduction makes sense, past its peak strength + bulking up a bunch more will ofc lead to a speed loss
therefore an animal whose muscles has lost a lot of strength would very easily lose much more speed

[gleaming garden]

u do understand that the elder system is still in testing right???

[limpid bear]

i do think that some dinos that dont rely on their speed should have it greatly redduced but things like troo raptor gali and the like are jsut dead on sight

[limpid bear]

u do understand i know that right

[gleaming garden]

then u do understand that the amount of speed lost is most likely going to be changed/alr is planned to be changed correct???

[limpid bear]

do u understand that it might be slightly gratin right now especially with no communication on what they wanted to change correct?? and that its very likely dondi will keep the speeds and elder stats even tho they feel like theyve been rushed correct??

and what i meant in the general feedback was they shouldnt have so much speed taken away

[gleaming garden]

the first part of ur first sentence doesnt make much sense, idk what gratin is, but they did touch in the dev log that they were still ironing the elder system out. and you cant rlly complain abt not having any communication with us as they did the exact same with the hackers
and the whole point of the ht is to have stuff feel "rushed" and put out so that players can give their opinions, its the whole point of them testing stuff b4 releasing it
considering many ppl have had issues with elders as a whole the changes of almost all the elder stats being changed is extremely likely

[gleaming garden]

probably a much better idea to have that clarified b4 u post it

[limpid bear]

the isle cord users when u say anything remotely different to what they think

[limpid bear]

grating , gratin is the slangier way of saying it ig

[gleaming garden]

i mean clarification on something like that, esp in feedback is very much neccesary

[gleaming garden]

okay

[limpid bear]

oh im so sorry for not clarifying more when i whipped something up in like 5 secs to a feedback most peeps prolly wont read

anyways

[gleaming garden]

i mean u should prolly put more effort into it
and a lot of ppl do read this stuff, including devs and admins, etc

[limpid bear]

i do put effort into many many feedbacks so idk why u feel the need to calll me out for smth so small

[gleaming garden]

i mean... in that case u have no reason to put effort into this one as well

[limpid bear]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-really-stressed-mad-angry-gif-16109475

are u bored or smth

[gleaming garden]

not rlly, its js not that hard

[limpid bear]

ye you are arent u

[gleaming garden]

as i said, not rlly

[limpid bear]

so what was the point of this then

[gleaming garden]

well one to get ur clarification on if u actually meant for the speed reduction to be removed completely on frail elders or just decreased and for two to put my own point across on why i think it shouldnt be removed at all and to be decreased less than currently

[limpid bear]

u got ur answer can we pls close this convo lol

[gleaming garden]

i mean sure i guess

[stark snow]

Of course they have other stuff prioritised now, but I do think my idea would be a good universal base mechanic bringing life to the game but also could be a kit item for many other playables (some more than others). Such as Cera being able to reduce hygiene and have its bites get infected while also not suffering from other negative effects (sure its a buff in a way but could allow nerfs in other areas), as well as encouraging movement for other playables such as herrera.

Aslo I think they have expressed ideas of Dibble/Barry being able to scratch their horns/claws to sharpen them/mark their territory or get some other benefit. My idea for the health and hygiene stuff would basically be this but applied universally, more work of course, but in for a penny. Also I used concept arts to show that such ideas and behaviours have already been considered, I just wanted to have a think how it could be meaningfully applied.

[gleaming garden]

-# lmao some of this feedback is hilarious, i love the backhanded comments guys, might be a good idea to suggest something rather than implying ur suggestion 🤣

[indigo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[gleaming garden]

nahhh
js funny

[harsh sun]

<@&933486433342222376>

[humble jetty]

I would agree… if we could test it…

[gleaming garden]

lmao 🤣

[autumn blaze]

@full comet barely any players on hordetest atm. Is there any unofficial servers on hordetesting?

[urban flax]

Hordesting, by essence of being a test branch, cannot have unofficial servers

[autumn blaze]

Ah okay. I noticed the ping is higher in hordetesting, I'm eu but it's higher than an evrima custom server.

You know rex is cool but I feel like if they're going to release it alot of player will choose rex over other dino's and overpopulate.

[urban flax]

That's why they need to make rex properly challenging to grow and play as

[autumn blaze]

Yeah, and what about a player limit?

[urban flax]

ew

[autumn blaze]

Idk, it's an option but maybe that's not fun.

[urban flax]

Play rex
Grow to subadult
Time to go to bed, log off and leave
Reconnect next day
Cannot play rex on that server, rex slots are full

It also shoehorns people into playing something they don't actually want to play as

[autumn blaze]

Yeah I understand that's annoying.

[gleaming garden]

@solar iron
ur suggestion is interesting, its pretty good i will say tho idk abt the 50% longer lifecycles, thats 5+ hrs on some dinos, its a long long time
and i still think prime should have requirements to get, tbh its more realistic with how prime and frail elders are rn then without requirements yk???

[urban flax]

Both by forcing people out of their fave because of limited slots, but also the other way around
I don't like rex, but WOAH there's a free rex slot on this server, I must not miss it out

[autumn blaze]

Hunger decreases quite slowly with rex in hordetesting. Yeah I get it

[gleaming garden]

and imagine if u died and then b4 u can respawn someone takes ur spot

[autumn blaze]

When is it speculated they will release rex and stuff?

[urban flax]

When rule 10

[gleaming garden]

after allo is all we know

[full comet]

there were enough when i was on. like 50ish. but everyones sick of the rain i think

[autumn blaze]

Yeah it happened when I was in as well. Ping is just higher like 70 to 90 sometimes and it's on eu and I'm eu.

[full comet]

Yea raining non stop, ping still isnt great, and its always dark asf

[autumn blaze]

Yeah

[solar iron]

Thanks! This is just the core of my idea. Of course, there could be some reasonable requirements, but nothing too complicated. The extra hours should give players more time to play and bond with their dinosaur. I think it’s a cool concept, since the main goal of the game isn’t to die, but to live as long as possible.

Many players have said they don’t have enough time to truly enjoy their prime stage — especially the smaller species. Those extra hours can fix this. The entomb should be a reward for a long and successful life. In my opinion, the way entomb currently works only encourages metagaming instead of promoting a healthy and immersive playstyle.

Finally, I believe the elder stage shouldn’t necessarily mean becoming extremely powerful. The frail elder should represent the final stage — the slow decline. Before that, there should be a clear adult stage and an elder stage. Elders should undoubtedly be stronger than adults, but diet buffs, variable growth percentages, and stat differences could still create meaningful diversity between individuals.

[autumn blaze]

When will ai fish be fixed and also bull frogs and sea ai?

[pliant elm]

I like small animals, Troodon being my favorite too. It's just that there's no fun at all playing something that you can only spend your stam running/flying/swimming with and not being able to do anything against the players

[limber hull]

you're allowed to only like PvP, but that doesn't mean everything needs to PvP to be worth playing

[pliant elm]

PvP is the most fun part of the game, where you put everything you know against other players. Of course, I also play with Hypsi and Dryo from time to time, but that's very rare

[limber hull]

cool, that's your provocative lol

i genuinely dont understand why you not liking a playstyle means nothing should have that be designed around it

you're allowed to want PvP. There's TONS of animals, present and future, that'll easily scratch that itch. Ptera, dryo, hypsi won't be part of that group

[pliant elm]

Seeing how "forgotten" these two are and Ptera will be, most of the community will also agree with this

This also considering the cost to grow one of them

[limber hull]

so what? scrap anything that doesn't throw down with something else? better get rid of minmi, we've already decided no one will play it lol

[pliant elm]

Even though it's less than 30 minutes, it's still a lot for something that does absolutely nothing

[limber hull]

people are going to play ptera. Maybe not for the reasons you'd like, but I think you'll find the novelty of flight is hard for people to ignore

[pliant elm]

don't need to do anything. I'm just saying that this is unfortunately the fate of playables like these

[limber hull]

i still see hypsis because their gameplay is novel and fun

we'll be seeing ptera forever because it can fly, and flying is interesting

you can use the example of the animal that hasn't been finished since it was released early into Update 1 of EVRIMA as an example, but something tells me it's less to do with the killing power and more to do with the lack of an actual gameplay mechanic for dozens upon dozens of updates and hundreds of patches

[pliant elm]

I'm also going to play with Ptera and test it, Although I believe much of the fun has been removed. Well, at least this dive animation was added

[coarse spruce]

Hypsi is fun, dryo is fun, but there is a point to be made about ptera losing some of its audience with these nerfs

Hypsi has been added to, ptera has been cut back

[limber hull]

ptera's arguably been buffed

insane stamina, insane momentum mechanics, easy food acquisition, unique PvE interactions, etc

it's probably the best it's ever been at the basic act of flying

[junior nymph]

literally everything about ptera was buffed pretty much, the only thing that wasnt is now you cant peck things in the air that are larger than you

[limber hull]

the argument that "ptera's been cut back" is so hysterically incorrect I genuinely do not understand where people get off on saying it

[pliant elm]

Yes, I agree with that. Ptera has become a great flyer

[limber hull]

it has more mechanics, its flight has actual weight and feels real, it has incredible stamina, tons of unique environmental interactions specific to only it

but it can't peck a carno as good so its trash and has been made worthless

"cut back" lmao

[pliant elm]

I feel like the only thing Ptera needs is better Stam regeneration and nothing else, Neither new animations nor removing their ability to peck larger things

[limber hull]

it also got that

it regens faster

[pliant elm]

I've never had any problems dealing with any Ptera, even the most skilled ones. I don't know why they removed that. "Harass" seems like a lame excuse to me xd

[limber hull]

"i didn't experience it so it doesn't exist"

[pliant elm]

Well, at least I hope that now Ptera will get tons of new additions

[limber hull]

the classic

[urban flax]

I've never had any problems dealing with hackers, so I don't know why people are so butthurt about them
Sounds like a skill issue to me

[limber hull]

it literally has gotten tons of new additions and is only planned to get more new additions

[limber hull]

same actually, i basically never have problems with hackers

genuine skill issue if you can't handle them i guess

[urban flax]

true true

[pliant elm]

These are difficult things to compare lol

[limber hull]

they're really not tbh

[junior nymph]

ive never had issues with cerato so its not OP

[pliant elm]

They seem like the same concept, but the comparison simply doesn't make any sense

[junior nymph]

its just bad players

[limber hull]

one's an unkillable thing that's faster than you, can easily find and track you, kills things WAY bigger than it should

and the other is a hacker

[urban flax]

It does
It's proving a point that because YOU SPECIFICALLY didn't have a certain experience with a certain type of players doesn't mean the issue does not exist

[pliant elm]

Ptera only kills players who are desperate

[urban flax]

lol

[pliant elm]

They keep spamming attacks everywhere

You see this as literally no one has ever complained about Ptera being able to do this

Mainly those who have more hours

[urban flax]

This is false

[junior nymph]

hi I have more hours

[pliant elm]

Complaining after the change has been made? I'm talking about before

[urban flax]

Proof the changes have been effective

[pliant elm]

Maybe. Or they're just happy they don't have to play against him anymore

Even before Ptera was completely killable

[urban flax]

If the ptera wanted to die yeah

[pliant elm]

If the Ptera attacks you, you could kill it

It can be difficult, but you'll get the hang of it pretty quickly

[limber hull]

depends on your creature and how stupid the ptera is

if you can jump thank goodness

if you can't and the ptera is competent, your animal is dead

[urban flax]

The only things that only ever had a chance at killing ptera are omni because it can jump (and even then it's not very effective) and stego because its tail hitbox extends 5 meters above its back

[pliant elm]

Yes, that too. Bad players will always be bad regardless of what creature they're playing

[wintry cipher]

I dealt with pteras as omni and you know what happened he couldnt hit me but he refused to quit and started screaming and following me endlessly butthurt over it. Thank god for the changes

Sometimes its not a skill issue its genuinely annoying and harmful to someone elses enjoyment of the game

[pliant elm]

Even Carno could kill, and Cerato too (Very easily)

Dilo had more difficulty, but nothing too big

[urban flax]

If the ptera lets them, sure

[wintry cipher]

I had two adult carnos pinned to a cliff as a first time ptera just because i wanted to see if i could. It was stupid. I only ever hit them once and never got close enough for them to hit me after that and yet i could control a players behavior like that

[pliant elm]

Most Ptera did not attack directly before, but rather tried to bait attack first, It was quite simple to predict

[wintry cipher]

Pt is perfectly capable of killing juvies on the ground and risking its short growth vs their short growth. Players wanted more stamina and less toxic gameplay, which we got. The knockdown was the perfect solution tbh

It also takes off faster now ive heard

[pliant elm]

Yes, the changes seem to be good. I'm not saying I didn't like it, just that now they really have to do a lot of things if they want to make Ptera as fun as before

[wintry cipher]

I think once players grasp how to use it (like maia) itll go well. They did say maia was weak at the start of its ht and by the end they were bulldozing everything lol. Not to say pt will do the same but being able to fish anywhere and have better stam suddenly frees you up a lot too

It will likely be one of the most popular dinos for social gameplay as a result

[opaque inlet]

Thanks ^^

I notice, some animals will fight to the death over mates and reproductive rights. Not all of them of course. But if we want the isle to be realistic, I think nesting needs to be a much bigger goal with much more incentive.

[faint folio]

Idk about cerato or dilo, but carno's bite box cannot reach above its head. Ptera's bite box was well below its body (tip of its beak). The result was that a skilled ptera could fly high enough above the carno that the tip of its bite box still intersected the carno's hitbox, but the carno's bite box never could overlap with the ptera's hit box. And because carno can't jump, there is very little it can do against a ptera that was skilled at flying. One of my friends was hunted down and killed like that back on Spiro.

Unless their relative bite boxes and hit boxes have since changed so that it's possible for a carno to hit a ptera that can hit the carno, I think the knockdown is a decent solution to deter ptera from harassing and killing things that really should be too big for it. Death by a thousand paper cuts is frustrating if you can't prevent the paper cuts

[woven bane]

#general-feedback message yes i agree

[urban flax]

@tawdry wraith They literally buffed ptera last patch ?

[icy lion]

@gleaming silo Check the pinned messages in the official server channels to see how to report hackers

[gleaming silo]

Does it do anything though?

[icy lion]

It notifies the admins that there's hackers on they can ban

[gleaming garden]

Np
And with the not being able to enjoy themselves at prime, instead of increasing all growth stages, we could increase the prime and adult stages by a %

And i agree with you, but i personally like having prime and frail elder being different things yk?? Frail being almost a punishment for having a poor lifestyle and prime being a reward for having a healthy one

I think the reqs now are quite simple (although not publicly announced properly, we do know the basis of it) and ofc last i checked u can get prime late atm, i think ive seen someone get it at 99% b4

[young arch]

#general-feedback message @tawny pendant thats the 4 call

[potent flower]

was about to say

@supple pine love your feedback illustrations btw

[gritty kernel]

ragebait it must be

[zenith pagoda]

@tawny pendant That's called a 4 call

[willow latch]

pt is about to have literally nothing to do other than fly around and kill ai. you won’t be able to attack anything while flying unless you air brake, and prime elder will not be able to air brake to prevent falling out of the sky. that means you can only attack things in the sky by air braking UNTIL you hit elder, then you can’t attack other players at all.

[woven bane]

can’t have fun at the expense of others lol

[willow latch]

i had someone arguing with me about how pt being able to attack players from the sky is worse than the overused, uncounterable pin mechanic

[woven bane]

pin requires no skill, ptera takes skill to master but becomes oppressive once you do, ptera practically has no limit on what it can go after, pin has a threshold to prevent things from punching up. both are bad, which one is worse is debatable and how you see it

i don’t like either

y shouldn’t justify x

[wooden zinc]

@full comet was gonna say " oh it doesnt rain on HT that much" i was then proven wrong as mid type is started raining😔

[full comet]

There is not a single full day of clear skies :(

[wooden zinc]

WHY IS IT STILL RAINING THO

IT HASNT STOPPED FROM WHEN I SENT THAT MSG😭

[full comet]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

Its literally unbearable 😭

[wooden zinc]

agreed, i dont mind rain noises and thundering and all that but idk it changing how the screen looks and everything and how it barely changes the gameplay at all other than impacting your senses is kinda annoying

if its gonna be this often and that loud surely we get wet and dry seasons or smth

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

aurora, snowfall and frost? on a tropical island?

[wooden zinc]

@full comet it stopped raining

https://tenor.com/view/man-free-man-freedom-free-chain-gif-2032133702890087634

[full comet]

Just ideas 🤷‍♀️

[wooden zinc]

I agree with some and others are a bit out there but for the most part i agree that different weathers would be pretty cool, im bigger on there being seasons that change the map (more water in wet seasons so deinos can go more places) and that sorta stuff but a meteor shower would be sickkk

[full comet]

That would be pretty cool yeah! I would especially love times when it rains but doesn’t necessarily need to be deafening and make everything dark

Like a light rain would be really nice

Also, I live on an island and sometimes it frosts on winter mornings especially the more inland you go

20 years ago it used to frost the ground to pure white most mornings during winter which provided essential conditions for Kiwifruit vines to thrive and produce lots of fruit

now the climate has changed a lil so we have to spray the vines with poison to simulate frost :(

[wooden zinc]

yeah chilly morning frost is really nice to look at, love stepping on the crunchy grass as well lol

[full comet]

The crunchy Dino walking sounds would be rlly cool imo

[storm cedar]

The UI nest is bug or just nobody want to take eggs in hordetest?

[queen locust]

new bug

[outer mulch]

Is there a way to get your dino back in hordetesting? I had like a 40% rex that got deleted bc my internet went out :(

[bitter dove]

@golden sundial if on ht, you got grabbed by a prime deino, they can go up to 11-12 tons if I remember right

[golden sundial]

Not HT, this is Evrima

[bitter dove]

Then idk

[golden sundial]

Idk either, that's why I wanna know if it's a bug or if the 75% thingy is wrong

[bitter dove]

Or hackers found another 'fun' tool

[golden sundial]

I can 100% say that my friend it not a hacker lmao, we hate hackers just as much as yall do

[minor sentinel]

@tepid palm #general-feedback message you do know that the new way is to pressing enter?

[vagrant phoenix]

#general-feedback message they actually did add Rainbows btw, not the other things but thought it was neat. This was before the recent patch (during the 300 ping patch) #gateway-screenshots message @full comet

Idk if the rainbows still exist

[full comet]

ohhhh! so pretty!

[small furnace]

anyone else getting that glitch where you fall through the terrain, ive lost a 2 hour grown rex and a 7 hour grown trike to this. the trike was my fault for logging on the rocks but the rex died to the server crashing

[minor sentinel]

I mean just the rock from what I've see :/

[small furnace]

bridges do it too my rex died to the server crashnig and me spawning on the bridge and falling through it even tho it was rendered

[minor sentinel]

ok, it seems like the way to fix it's is to make the hit box rendered in frst

[reef bay]

@supple pine I like the pictures, exactly the kind of interactions I want with other species

[junior nymph]

@violet rampart for one there is a report button on hordetest for two hordetest has fixed alot of hacks

[violet rampart]

Yea, but not playing hordetesting

[urban flax]

I already redeemed it

[stuck granite]

Im sad I have to say this, but after this recent small fix, the mass migration zones stopped spawning, meaning that players will not be able to get a prime elder

[minor sentinel]

You know I never knew what the differences is form a migration zones and mass migration zones

[stuck granite]

It's quite simple, mass migration zones are commonly known simply as migration zones in general. Then you have patrol zones, thats it.

[ornate pewter]

They do. Saw one last night.

[tall vine]

@lean escarp crazy how people downvote something interesting for herbies to have instead of eat, hide and repeat

[junior nymph]

@pale river alot of hacks have been fixed like the 1 taps and iicr speed (or atleast its been made easier to deal with)

(on horde)

[wintry cipher]

im assuming you are talking about evrima: on ht it looks like hackers cant oneshot kill anymore as babies! Some hacks still exist by the looks but a few of the big ones got nuked in the updates. The hackers frequently group up in mixpacks as well now which seems to mean no more invulnerability hacks too

Ive seen hackers die to normal players

[junior nymph]

ive killed many 😛

[pale river]

Ya I’m talking about official thanks for letting me know

[vagrant phoenix]

@stuck granite the inactive zones count on the prime elder requirements too (even if you can't smell them), just travel like 70% around the map and you'll get prime elder

[lean escarp]

lmfao it's not even a mechanic that gets in the way of anything except being able to pair with a player at all times

[faint flicker]

I just want to know why they changed the ui, no one asked for it, the state its in right now in the horde test is just straight up bad, its ugly, and i cant look at my percentages when looking at my status report. if it aint broke why fix it. why are the devs even wasting their time on garbage like his instead of working on the new dinos and the endless list of bugs

[limber hull]

something something ui devs something something not the same as the dinosaur devs or something

at some point the repetition grows tiresome

also if the game only did what people asked it to do, itd be a very boring game

[faint folio]

It is a WIP, so it's unsurprising it's worse than the previous UI that was not WIP. Kinda like how ptera went through a seriously dicey patch for a while, and now it's getting a bit better/usable again. And yeah, the devs working on new dinos aren't spending time on UI, it's a different dev. They're getting worked in parallel, not in series

[versed rivet]

@pine bone you mean, for owner servers?

[pine bone]

yeah as an option

[drowsy halo]

whos with me that the new ui shouldnt be commited for evrima because for me its firstly way too bright and secondly it looks like the inside of a nuclear reactor in that color. KEEP THE OLD UI

[faint folio]

It does look not great right now, I admit... But also I'm hoping it's in its ugly duckling stage and it'll get better before HT is pushed to live

[drowsy halo]

yes thats also fine with me

[woven bane]

you’re alone on this one partner

[drowsy halo]

but what do you like about the new one. my biggest downturn is its immense size and its radioactive glow

[rose plinth]

Is HT still having huge lag spikes? I just wanna know if its even worth trying again since i didnt see lag addressed in the announcement

[small furnace]

@maiden anvil while i do agree after playing P.E on roblox with that kind of system its ok, prime elder would be way to easy but it should be more of a thing of like a % of the diet given is of each diet but i really hope they dont add a like exersize and cleaning and that cuz that would be absolutly horible, it would make it so you have to always be paying attention and that so honestly not a great thing plus it would be much much much more mentaly draining then it is rn

[spiral scaffold]

gonna play au 1 from the states, the 200 ping has me curious. lol

[small furnace]

oh heck na lol your gonna be taking 5 minutes to walk around even like 5 feet

[spiral scaffold]

NO PING CAN DEFEAT THE HUMAN SPIRIT! LOL

[small furnace]

you should be able to choose stuff like on the tab menu where on that top bar your dif stats are and stuff like that, or even better letting you switch between the old and new ui, if you standerised the diets and ingame icons that would be great

[small furnace]

eh unless the ping is going inside walls