general-feedback-discussion

[desert arch]

It cant track you well even if youre bleeding

[golden lion]

because they cant control what the player does. As i said before carno can run away from a teno

like its not even "ohhh but teno has a faster trot" that doesnt matter if you are just sprinting away as a carno

[obsidian sphinx]

Teno can outstam and trot down a carno, the stam system favors trotting more than running, dinos travel longer distances while trotting than they could while running thats a fact.

If one doesn't know of it then they don't know how the game works

[finite agate]

what is this rage bait bro

i don't get what bros trying to say

[obsidian sphinx]

Its not ragebait its facts

[finite agate]

nah i was reading all yyour other chats and couldn't figure out what the problem was

everyone gave a good answer to whatever problem you were sayyying

[obsidian sphinx]

The problem is that the game is so balanced around certain obvious possibilities in this case Carnis hunting Herbis and Herbis defending themselves that the possibility of opposite happening was never considered.

[finite agate]

how so?

[finite agate]

if yyour still talking aboutt carno and teno

carno is much faster and has around the same stamina i don't see the problem with that

[obsidian sphinx]

Carno has higher stam cost than teno whether it is charging or running doesn't matter if they have same stam, the expected possibilty was teno running away from carno due to low stam costs in favor of Teno in this case 250 damage kick for only 2 % stam (less than a troodon's pounce cost and less than half of Omnis pounce cost) which is ridiculous already, the question is how these glaringly bad and unfair balancing went unnoticed.

[golden lion]

the balance is fine like we keep saying ur just not listening to us. carno can run away and a teno cant keep up or track it down

end of story

ur just wrong

[finite agate]

also teno kick is harder to hit then a normal bite or charge in carnos case because it hhas to be facing the opposite wayy

[finite agate]

also just one more thing, in the very rare situation where a carno is tracked down by a teno after them both using all of there stamina what is the teno supposed to do then? bite them to death?

oh shoot your right

[obsidian sphinx]

remember alt attacks still work even when out of stam you need to play the game more

[finite agate]

ye you right on that one mb i dont ever get to 0 stam usually tho

i would rather not play the game any more than i do XD its kinda getting boring at this point wiith all the one shot combos and stuff

[haughty trail]

this game and the devs are trash

[indigo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/expand-on-that-seth-meyers-late-night-with-seth-meyers-tell-me-more-explain-gif-20031393

[mint helm]

he's kinda right though

[finite agate]

fr

[haughty trail]

like the ai thing kind put me over the edge been a month

[finite agate]

i just want my kentro tho then ill be happy

as a little porcupine

[mint helm]

i want my elite fish 😭

[indigo gulch]

I am also right

[haughty trail]

right and nothing from devs

[indigo gulch]

I mean same bro but I like an explanation when someone says the basic stuff

[mint helm]

I wonder what will be in the devblog

if the ai fish doesn't get mentioned i'm quitting

or im switching to land herbi or carni

[finite agate]

what i thought was really funny was in the isle news video where this guy sayy and i quote "i was hired strictly for ai but it hasn't been my focus for awhile now" as well as when someone asked him about why they removed baby deer "idk i just work here" like bro

[haughty trail]

they devs just keep pushing dinos out instead of fine tuning the map and the combat and the ai doesnt make sense

[desert arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/778350675997491220/1396279329834532996/image.png?ex=6884c235&is=688370b5&hm=8e7603a1d536d51e8784d8bf074222e69d82b0138bdef640fabbc728f8250436&

[indigo gulch]

Ty, I dont have the screenshot

[desert arch]

The engine update is probably holding the ai fix up :/

[haughty trail]

and it took them a month to acknowledge

[desert arch]

Its getting fixed thats all that matters

[vital dove]

Teno easy kill Carno and Cera but grazing boys still saying that it is okay

xd

[pliant elm]

But it's okay xd

And I'm Main Carno lol

[vital dove]

Who purpose hunt on Teno than

If Carno at least faster than Teno but Ceras slower and still weaker, so Teno here predator when Ceras and Carno herbie that must run

[pliant elm]

Teno killing these two easily is no problem, the problem is that Teno cannot be killed by them in most cases, at least for Carno

Because Teno has a stability after his attacks that makes him immune to Carno's charge

[vital dove]

I not ask why Teno kill all

I ask u why u say that it is okay

[pliant elm]

Because Teno is a Brawler who weighs more than these two

[vital dove]

xd

Ask again who must hunt on Teno

[desert arch]

Cera can, omni can, dilo can, troodon can

Then eventually rex and allo

[vital dove]

"Cera can" xd

[desert arch]

Yes

[vital dove]

Finish with u

[desert arch]

Me and my friends won vs 8 tenos as 4 ceras without 0 losses and killed 7 of them.
Got the clip if you wish to see it.

[vital dove]

Me and my friend save earth vs allien atack without 0 looses and killed 109981237124 of them

[desert arch]

If teno was really that overpowered beast you believe it to be then being outnumbered 2:1 they wouldve surely won.

[desert arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1102619485334143006/1346588124586971199/The_Isle_-_2025-03-04_21-49-19.mp4?ex=688541eb&is=6883f06b&hm=34498a6b02c6ab7e6dcf3d835385d64814b6b24d0b12bc0c4be3044b797db622&
Sound quality is doodoo ik, average south plains experience

[vital dove]

If allien was really that overpowered beast u believe it to be then being outnumbered 123152356236:1 they wouldve surely won

[desert arch]

Mind you this was before cera was BUFFED even more so yeah

[vital dove]

They moving like bots

I just say to u and to ur friend

Teno run for u and atacking with forward move, if u try turn back for bite her she just go a little forward and do legs atack that u cant dodged that all

And i not say about that they can just stay in water and all

[pliant elm]

Cera is one of the only ones who can fight on equal terms with Teno, although after the buffs he is stronger than Teno

[vital dove]

He cant

U just not fight vs normal Teno

[pliant elm]

He can do it, just don't be stupid and use your agility

[vital dove]

Lie more to himself grazing boy

Kill this game more xd

Or at least 1 time in ur live go to sandbox and try check ur words

When u will loose 100 fights vs Teno go back and say sorry to me

[pliant elm]

Bait Teno attacks are easy with Cerato, man

Do you actually play the game?

[pliant elm]

15 fps 😭😭🙏

[desert arch]

Potato pc 🥀

Well tbf even my friend, who usually gets 120fps was rocking barely 30s there so yeah

We love south plains :))

[desert arch]

He said the other day he has 100 hours so far, mostly on dibble

[desert arch]

Got another clip of a troodon killing 2fg tenos if you wanna see😁

[pliant elm]

This explains why he think carnivores is weak

[hushed field]

Press N key to cancel the Trike`s thrash attack.Is this normal or a bug?

[vital dove]

Funy grazing guy

I never play on Teno but lets go on sandbox i will kill u

[junior nymph]

that is indeed a bug

[barren crater]

Bug.

[vivid mason]

insect

[sly sleet]

Arachnid

[pliant elm]

@jaunty locust Spawn code is already in the game

Your friend joins the "group" and copies and sends you the code and you put it in "spawn code" (Below "eggs")

[jaunty locust]

DUMBEST SPAWNSYSTEM EVER!

[junior nymph]

what

[faint shore]

anyone feel deinosuchus hunger drains too fast?

[charred oak]

Guys, Are there any specific spawn points for Elite Fish? or do they spawn in all fresh water bodies?

[faint shore]

I do

[faint shore]

I found two spots where they tend to spawn in water access, right next to the broken enclosure on the left , and towards the right hand side of that further off

[charred oak]

Mate, there are huge problems with Deino. food drains too fast. you go out of water , 2 mins you are 0% thirst. no food at all. no fishes nothing.

[faint shore]

patrol that side of the lake after server restarts, i find a queue for when they are about to spawn is the arrival of schooling fish, then go check again. found that to be very useful

Deino just grows up to starve lol

[charred oak]

Its too hard to survive as a Deino. there are only 20% chances you will be able to grow a 100% Deino cus of food atm. even if you succeed. then comes 2 FG Deinos and kill you xD

[faint shore]

spend 6 hours growing just for there to be 0 food and starve

[charred oak]

if devs decide not to give too much Ai to Deinos, then they should remove all the small ponds from the map so that all other dinosaurs must drink water from lakes. that can help Deino. but rn everyone just travel 5 mins to drink water from a very safe pond. as a result no food for Deinos.

[tall vine]

@ruby briar u must be new at the game if u think deino is broken cuz there are no safe spots in the water to drink, play like 100 hours and then try and tell us that again

[faint shore]

I think deino is broken due to its hunger drain

players come, just its too infrequent for the deino to sustain itself

thats what i think, i might be wrong tho

[charred oak]

They made Deino a very large Dinosaur which needs non stop eating to sustain. but they didnt maintain that. If they just remove all the small ponds from the map. there will be enough food for all the Deinos. plus it will add more realism. Dinosaurs used to travel miles for sip but here every herbi has its own swimming pool.

[urban flax]

Idk in what world is an entire island without any shallow water realistic

Safe spots are currently the only counterplay against deino, they need to exist

[faint shore]

i agree

just maybe increase the length deino hunger drains

[charred oak]

that could help yea.

[faint shore]

ambush predators cannot survive with such infrequent players water visits

[charred oak]

its because of the ponds. why will you visit a lake with deinos when you have your own swimming pool xD

[charred oak]

How does that work? join which group?

[lucid mauve]

But we are missing like bary spino sucho and cherius something. Prob will make water more alive etc

[charred oak]

yea atleast there will be food for someone in the water.

[lucid mauve]

I do think they mention something about doing some changes to deino in the future aswell

[blissful oasis]

why u playing the isle on VHS?

[ruby briar]

I have 200+ hours

I am 100% sure deino is unbalanced

And will stick to that

[junior nymph]

200 isnt alot

its also not unbalanced

prob the worst creature rn (either deino or ptera or pachy)

also deino is built to kill midtiers and lower apexes shred deino (as they should)

[scenic hollow]

#general-feedback message deino can eat rotten corpses so one hunt can last it much longer if used right

meaning it drains hunger fast but one hunt will last it till th next 90% of the time

[pliant elm]

You or your friend will spawn, so just press TAB and go to Group, copy the code, and send it to the other person on the selection screen. When you use the code, you will automatically join the group And you will be close to each other

But the code only becomes active for use a while after spawning

[blissful oasis]

#general-feedback message what a fantastic idea!

[indigo gulch]

and how many hours of those are deino?

also if you have played 200+ hours and NOT found any safe drinking places, I'm convince you just haven't looked for them

[finite agate]

@nova loom dilo literally has other buffs during the night like it's vemon allies way quicker and lasts longer also if you give it the bleed it had back in legacy it would be even more broken than it already is as well as completely removing omnis playstyle because it's focused on bleed.

One more thing the old night vision that was in legacy was straight booty I have around 500 hours on legacy and the new night vision is 10 times better imo

[pliant elm]

@nova loom Dilo kills things at night with 1-4 bites and clone spam and you want him to be even stronger? Lol

[finite agate]

Fr that's what I'm saying they need to change it so it can only send a clone if it lands a body or head bite while they are fully envemonated

[pliant elm]

Yes, that would be nice

If it were like that, it would even be possible to reduce the sound of Dilo footsteps.

[barren zephyr]

It'd be kinda cool of petra got ground effect lift, meaning it stays up easier close to the ground.

[edgy flax]

@finite agate real

[finite agate]

Bro i can't wait for kentro bruh i need ot

[edgy flax]

Same i want a defensive mid tier

Or small tier idk

[finite agate]

Kentro ain't a mid teir

Kentro is smaller then teno

[edgy flax]

In currect roster teno is kinda mid tier to me

[finite agate]

How?

[edgy flax]

Atleast till we get the real mid tiers

[finite agate]

We got dibble maia and stego

[edgy flax]

Idk its pretty big but not small

[finite agate]

Well stego is like sudo apex really

Carno and cera are both small tiers also

[edgy flax]

We need more real mid tiers for me to realise

[finite agate]

@clear saddle yk that is a really good concept but there is a very glaring problem with it. We'll uh... people are way smarter then the real animals and will not treat it like their own child as the other babies will definitely notice and call it out in the chat. If this was going to work they would have to give like a debuff to prevent you from killing your own babies but without that there is no way it would work and another thing that would probably only work for rex and Alberto cause they are the only dinos that are somewhat similar as baby's lol.

[clear saddle]

Yeeeaaaahhhh. It's a gimmick that seems interesting for maybe a minute before the complexities of even implementing it would foil it, in retrospect. It'd require the Alberto egg looking one-to-one with a Rex egg along with the player themselves being willing to be an Alberto egg/plus some other mechanics in the background that would enable it to go unnoticed especially if nest codes remain a thing; or an overhaul of the nesting mechanic entirely making it public for anyone wanting an egg with no decision on the parents' end on who's allowed in the nest to begin with. :S

It's a shame bc I wanna see Alberto again but without it just being another Rex and also take advantage of the vulnerability that young rexes would have to deal with on top of everything else.

[tall vine]

@ruby briar well, what i can tell u from someone with 1.2k is that deino is currently underwhelming and we SHOULD not get any more safespots, there are so many already

[maiden anvil]

@hushed flint I too want a better Deino but idk how appropriate it is to go so hard on it

[hushed flint]

I said how by addressing the problems

Just fix them and it’s fine

[urban flax]

Deino will be getting a kit rework

[hushed flint]

Not any time soon it won’t

[limber hull]

and your source for this is

[carmine pebble]

Will we see the old ptera come back? This new version is so frustrating to play as.

[fickle cave]

#general-feedback message @livid raven

Love that idea, and I think it can be expanded on. Swamp can boom with Frogs, Rivers and lakes like SP and Delta never run out of fish, the mudflats constantly have turtles, Etc. For meat eaters, instead of having various diets all over the place, make them travel to get their specific needs

[vital dove]

Carno destroy Cerato

But near body cant yes it is must work like this, but not near body Carno it is second biggest danger for Cerato after Teno. Good Cerato can win Carno in free field but here need some luck, not always it can be realsided even for very good Ceratos, and in 90% cases Carno player just destroy Cerato player bcs for win Carno need really know how and difficult do it even if u know, so most of Ceratos just dying or run to the wall/water

[pliant elm]

I just don't think it's fair to give Cerato a 100% chance of victory against a Carno just because it's near a body. Cerato absolutely doesn't need a buff like this, the damage reduction already increases his health to around 2100

Cerato is currently overprotected while having no consequences for spamming the charge bite

[vital dove]

Carno currently overprotected while having no consequences for spamming charge

[pliant elm]

Xd

[vital dove]

But anyway i okay with delete this Cerato buff near bodies if Cerato will get something for hunt

Bigger speed or better turning

[pliant elm]

Carno has a stam cost on the charge, as well as a reduction in its turn radius

[vital dove]

Cerato has a stam cost too if take roar too long

[pliant elm]

Bro, 6 Seconds

[vital dove]

And?

When he stop u can atack or better u just can wait when he eated and go away, just chase him and atack

U have much bigger speed

[pliant elm]

And it's completely hackable, just stop the charge bite and use it again and the stam cost won't occur

[desert arch]

#balance-feedback-discussion message Yo Vanilla, I did as you told me

Please be so kind and check it out

[vital dove]

And even if u find 1 Cerato from 100 which know how to fight vs Carno u can just run

[vital dove]

Look 15 second

[pliant elm]

This doesn't mean that Cerato should have a 100% chance of victory xd

[vital dove]

And already see that this Teno new or not play a Teno at all

[desert arch]

🤦‍♂️

[vital dove]

Just randomly spam atacks

[vital dove]

But Carno has chance on 100% be alife

[desert arch]

At this point Ive shown you more than a dozen tenos dying to ceras

[vital dove]

Teno has a 100% chance to be alife

[pliant elm]

The fight between Carno and Cerato was balanced before, 70% for Cerato and 30% for Carno

[desert arch]

And you just brush it off as "theyre bad"

[vital dove]

Maia has a 100% chance to be alife

[vital dove]

But man he is really bad, i too can win Teno like this

[desert arch]

(I also did end up losing one fight out of 5)

[pliant elm]

So Cerato must be immune to Dilo venom and Omni pounce too?

[vital dove]

Yes bcs playing Cera much mpre difficult and u can dead eve vs bad Teno

[desert arch]

😭 🙏

At this point I hope you find your inner peace, wish you the best, have a good day my man

[vital dove]

Good Teno just run for u and bites when u turning for bite here he just go a little bit right in ur model do first leg punch that a little bit push her forward and after this she can do second punch with legs so on each ur bite u got 2 punches from Teno in most cases

If Teno bad he will use tail atack and in this case ye u have window for bite Teno and not get atack in back

[pliant elm]

How many hours of gameplay do you have?

Just a curiosity...

[vital dove]

So Carno must kill Cerato and can run any time if Cerato have a chance win or Maia must kill Cerato and can run any time Teno can kill Cerato in 90% cases and can run anytime

I said to u i okay if this buff would be deleted at all but i would want bigger speed or better turning speed or smthg like this

[pliant elm]

It's not a question of having to do this, but of being able to. Carno should have the ability to do this, just as he did before, but that doesn't mean he'll always win, as Cerato has an advantage

[vital dove]

Cero shoud have ability to kill Carno but she cant bcs Carno just run, Cero shoud have ability to kill Teno but even good Cero cant bcs Teno stronger and can just run anytime, Cero should have ability to kill Maia but she cant bcs Maia can run anytime

[pliant elm]

Cerato has full capacity to kill a Teno (if played well) and can simply chase a Carno until its stam runs out, due to Cerato's sense of smell being the best at sniffing out footprints

And, well, Maia weighs 3.8t and even so Cerato handles it very well

I just want it to be fun for both of them. Carno should be a Small prey hunter but capable of hunting things up to 2t, and Cerato should be a scavenger that can also hunt things up to 2-3t

Just imagine how stupid it would be if Cerato could only be a scavenger that is completely useless at hunting? Not fun at all and it would make Cerato forgettable

[vital dove]

No he has not full capacity for kill Teno, Cero can kill bad Teno it is true, but normal Teno just destroy Ceras and any way Teno can just run if Cero do all perfect and has chance on a win, Teno will just turn back and run without any problem, In theory yes u can chase Carno but in practice this game has million bushes and Carno will very fast do big distance between u and no matter how many stamina u have if u not see ur target, smelling footrpints dont help, i lost ALL carno that try run from me, i killed just Carno that fighted with me to the end, but if Carno decide run i never catched him but tried many times, Maia weights 3.8t and still faster than Cerato and still just good Cerato can kill Maia.

I want too for it woulkd be fun for both of them but u invulnereable in any situation with ur speed and want take Ceras body defend

It is not fun for both, it is fun for Carno where he can atack Cero anytime and run anytime if something happen bad

[lucid mauve]

Why would that be ? Not everything needs to hunt, with all the playables that are coming atleast make them diffrent. So everyone can fit their playstyle etc

[pliant elm]

Dude, are you serious?

[lucid mauve]

yes, whats the prob ?

[vital dove]

And i said to u already 3 times i think this buff near bodies must be dleeted bcs Cera it is not defended dino SHE MUST HUNT not run to bodies, so better if body buff would be deleted at all and instead this Cero has bigger speed or better turning speed

[pliant elm]

Cerato being a complete scavenger and useless in hunting would make its gameplay extremely boring and not fun at all

[lucid mauve]

For you ? I wouldt mind that at all. I hate carno playstyle, some love it

[pliant elm]

I'm thinking for everyone. Cerato in this state would basically be a Dryo/Hypsi 2.0

And that would eventually become forgotten

[lucid mauve]

People still play herbis, some are useless for hunting etc. It will be plenty of hunting dinos.

Dryo hypsi agree, ive forgotten those lol

[vital dove]

U read what i write or what. I write that i dont need body buff it is totaly braindead, i want bigger speed or bigger turning speed instead

[pliant elm]

People only play with herb/Carni that can hunt something

[vital dove]

But u just want take from Cera body bufff and give nothing instead

[pliant elm]

Dryo and Hypsi are proof of this

[vital dove]

And think like it is normal

[lucid mauve]

I mean alot of people played stego back in the day, and honestly if you wanted to get killed by one of those you had to walk up to it : P

[pliant elm]

For the Cerato to have more speed it would have less damage, much less

[vital dove]

Xd

So dont touch body buff than

First u say lets go do fun gameplay for all

And want delete Ceras defend ability, but ur defend ability where u safe of 100% of time in any moment u dont want delete

Really funy guy

[pliant elm]

The body buff is good, but the charge immunity is really bad. The damage, bleed and fracture reduction already make Cerato a great body-stealing scavenger

[vital dove]

I already answer on it

So Carno must kill Cerato and can run any time if Cerato have a chance win or Maia must kill Cerato and can run any time Teno can kill Cerato in 90% cases and can run anytime
I said to u i okay if this buff would be deleted at all but i would want bigger speed or better turning speed or smthg like this

U safe by 100% of time and not agree that Cera can be safe at least near bodies

[pliant elm]

Yes. Unfortunately, not everything will be in your favor. Cerato can hunt even Dibbles if played correctly, something he can simply run away from

Of course, a group of Cerato

[vital dove]

Never, NEVER solo Cerato can hunt Dibbles

Mayeby just do bacteria on him and not give to drink water and wait when he will die

Just like this xd

[pliant elm]

Of course. Cerato only kills bad dibbles in 1v1

[vital dove]

Very bad

That enable this game first time in life

Carno can kill this too

[pliant elm]

But 2-3 ceratos can win a dibble

[vital dove]

Yes and wat?

Cero pay for this very big price by speed

That he cant catch no one

[lucid mauve]

3 good ceras vs a very good dibble, who wins ?

[vital dove]

And all game can run from her

If dibble will use walls Ceras will win but loose someone anyway

Think will loose 2 ceras

[lucid mauve]

well thats fair i guess

[pliant elm]

Cerato, especially after the buffs he received

[lucid mauve]

Easy fight ? Like no deaths for ceras ?

[pliant elm]

Perhaps

It may happen that someone dies

[lucid mauve]

Ok, well fair enough

[vital dove]

100% someone dies

Good diablo will do one shot combo

Drop down Cera, than do bottom atack in head

And all, Cera life on 15 hp and just need any 1 atack for diablo

If she will go back and try bite him cera will die, and no one guarantee to u that u can stay up and not get this last atack from dibble he can do it last atack before u run

[prime cove]

how do i reqest?

[vital dove]

2 Ceras died from 1 Teno

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_HLQHIVl1A&ab_channel=6Mephistopheles9“6Mephistopheles9”

Look at moment on 0:51

It is what about Teno

[surreal obsidian]

tbh we also often killed 4 tenos as 2 ceras

its just about the better player

but cera nerfs in last patches are very unreasonable

[vital dove]

It is just about when Teno have zero brain

[surreal obsidian]

not really

tenos with no brain often get stomped

[vital dove]

If Teno at least understand something Cera has no chanches

[surreal obsidian]

tenos with brain are the dangerous ones

[vital dove]

But ye u can kill Tenos that atacking with them tail

In that case Cera have window for atack and not get damage in back

But if Teno understand how work this dino he will kill even best Cera in 90% cases

And Ye Cera has normal atack hitbox when Teno totaly brocken

And not forget that Teno can run anytime, Ceras not

Teno must get nerfed damage or nerfed speed or nerfed turning speed, it is brocken unbalanced dino

[surreal obsidian]

cera should just get like before update

better movement

[pliant elm]

Cera hasn't received any nerfs that affect her fight against teno, just buffs.

[surreal obsidian]

so cera movement/speed nerf doesnt affect teno fight ? xD

[pliant elm]

No, it takes 6 seconds for this to happen. It's completely bypassable, just stop using the charge bite and then use it again and nothing will happen

[vital dove]

It will, Teno will run for u and do free damage when u have no ur maxx bite

[surreal obsidian]

ye and as soon as you let go of charge bite teno jumps you xDDD

[pliant elm]

Cerato can also reach max damage (350) in 2s now, previously it was 3-4s

[vital dove]

No

I tested just today, if u keep just 2-3 second u will do smaller damage

Damage stop scaling just when slow effect start work

[pliant elm]

Just use with caution, it is extremely easy to do this

[surreal obsidian]

against a very good teno not, i play both, when a cera lets go of this charge, its always free hit for me as teno

[vital dove]

U mad? What caution Teno has bigger speed if u stop roaring he just atack u immidiately

[pliant elm]

Don't get close enough to a teno to suffer an attack, always keep a distance

[surreal obsidian]

ye a teno with brain will just deal damage, nothing you can do then

[vital dove]

xd

[surreal obsidian]

bruh

[vital dove]

This text was so stupid so i even dont want seriously answer on it

[surreal obsidian]

ye i should just get my sniper out next time

i mean i never had a problem fighting tenos, just saying cera gets unreasonable nerfs

[pliant elm]

Dude, stop treating the 0.1km/h of the teno as if it were 10km/h faster

[vital dove]

It is not 0.1

[pliant elm]

It is xd

Cera 40km e Teno 40.1

[surreal obsidian]

no cera is nerfed

thats the nerf im talking about all the time

and with charge even slower

[pliant elm]

It takes 6s for the speed reduction to occur, you only let this happen if you want to xd

[vital dove]

How can i atack Teno answer me?

[surreal obsidian]

it doesnt, its way faster

it updates text after 5s but ur already slowed after like 3s

[pliant elm]

No, it's not. I tested it after the last update came out and the stam cost and speed reduction only occurs after 6s

[vital dove]

It is nothing change anyway, for do normal damage u need full charged bite

Full charged it is 6s

[surreal obsidian]

ye and a good teno just plays distance when u use charge bite

[pliant elm]

I tested this too. It takes about 2-2.3s to reach max damage.

[vital dove]

Tested today

[pliant elm]

After the last update

[vital dove]

I did it today

[pliant elm]

Well, then one of us is wrong

[vital dove]

I fight vs other Cera and loose each fight, i ask him wat the hell he answer that i am just not full charge my bite, i tested and reall 3s it is not full charged

It is u

Go and test now

[pliant elm]

Maybe, but it could be you too

[vital dove]

No cuoldnt

[pliant elm]

Maybe I'll test again

[pliant elm]

I just tested it and it's actually no longer reaching max damage in 2s, but the speed reduction and stam cost is still only after 6-7s

It's probably bugged

[vital dove]

So like i said

Or they just change it without announce

Before today i too keep just 3s and think that it is max bite power

[indigo gulch]

Holy **** are we STILL at the “teno is broken and beats cera easily” joke?

[indigo gulch]

And they never answered did they?

[pliant elm]

Well, they said he said he had about 100 hours. But I wanted to ask him directly, but he didn't answer...

[desert arch]

#general-feedback-discussion message

[indigo gulch]

just 100?

[desert arch]

He may have racked up a bit more since then, but yeah

[pliant elm]

100 hours is a short time for a game like The Isle, this explains why he finds the fight between Teno and Cera so unfair

[icy lion]

@thorny cipher Check the pinned messages in the official server channels to see how to report hackers, and tap f2 to start and save replays

[vital dove]

I with my 100 hours play better than 90%

Just 50 of them on sandbox

[icy lion]

@agile helm Have you tried clearing the config folder? And honestly I really don't think there's much they can do to help with those specs.....

[agile helm]

Some time ago my specs used to handle it to atleast 60fps at low graphics, but now it go to 20 fps at low graphics idk why

But sure, i will tey deleting this config file

*try

[icy lion]

Try this, you can/should just delete the entire TheIsle folder but that'll wipe your saved skin presets and any replays you have

1. If running The Isle, exit the game.
2. Press the Windows key
3. Type %localappdata% then press Enter.
4. Find "TheIsle" folder. Open it.
5. Open the "Saved" folder.
6. Delete the "Config" folder. Note: This will reset any of your custom settings to their defaults.
7. Restart the game. The issues should be fixed.

[agile helm]

Sure

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message

my brother in christ, its time for an upgrade 😭

oh its gone (ignore this message)

[pliant elm]

@lyric solstice Carno hit box is ok, the problem is the desync

[paper galleon]

@pliant elm the people who voted no have just enough neurons to breathe, voting no is simply being an stup, it is incredible to take someone seriously thinking that that is okay

[pliant elm]

Unfortunately, many think this was a good change for Cerato, even though no one had ever questioned anything before about the body buff, as it was already very strong

Many just want the Cerato to be strong, regardless of whether or not that will be fair to others in its weight class...

[paper galleon]

what they have to do is nerf the cerato and lower it to 1k in weight, so they will know what cerato really was, but the devs pamper it a lot as if they were herbi players

[paper galleon]

they are simply people who play nothing but herbivores and if they are killed they start crying, nothing more

[pliant elm]

Although it's funny, it's what happens most. The Isle should prioritize balance and fun instead of "That's how it was in real life."

[limber hull]

i love how we've shifted the narrative from "cera OP" to herbivores, when herbivores

A: Have nothing to do with it
B: Aren't even remotely like cerato in any way
C: Aren't even that strong if you know how to deal with them

[paper galleon]

when the game dies because it is more unbalanced than my grandmother on a skateboard, they will realize, right now the devs are a joke with the herbi players because they don't balance the game and the herb players cry for anything that touches their favorite dinos

[limber hull]

I'mma be real when did the game ever prioritise real life

If it'd prioritised real life cerato would be extinct in this game lmao

[paper galleon]

are you stupid or do you do it? Herbs and ceras are too strong, learn to read and use neurons, if you don't contribute anything, shut up

[pliant elm]

The devs treat the Playables as if they were real animals, when they are just dolls that must be played by the players

[limber hull]

"Herbs like cera"

we serious rn

like do i even need to say anything about that

[paper galleon]

like herbs

[pliant elm]

They forget about balance and fun and make something like the current cerato and the extremely exaggerated damage of the Trike

[paper galleon]

ups, my bad

[limber hull]

current cerato isn't remotely realistic

[paper galleon]

read again or else shut up XD

[paper galleon]

that is no excuse for them to be stronger than the rest, 0 sense

[limber hull]

i hunt herbis fine, idk man i never got this "herbi OP" thing

either they're easy as hell to avoid if I'm not capable of dealing with them, or they're killable

[paper galleon]

but you play on servers where people don't even know how to use the keyboard, I guess, right?

[limber hull]

what servers would those be

im genuinely curious about this apparent "server-based skill-cap"

[pliant elm]

If the Cerato was something like 2-3t tons I would agree with you. But no, Cerato weighs only 1.3t (like the Carno) and its balance should be around that at least a little

[paper galleon]

idk, I haven't played for a while but the most popular unnofficials servers have a lot of people but most of them don't even know how to play dino (literally the majority I find have to explain to them how their skills work)

[limber hull]

eh

cerato has its own niche. It's overpowered as hell because it can just choose to ignore that niche, not because it's "strong for a 1.3t animal"

[limber hull]

i dont play unofficials generally

[paper galleon]

you're making excuses and the truth is that I'm pretty upset, say what you want, but the unbalanced nature of the game is a reality, whether you want to see it or not, that's not what I'm saying, they are simply facts

[limber hull]

carno is insanely fast for a 1.3t animal and people don't complain because it has weaknesses to offset that

cerato should be the same but inversely to compliment a slower, bully playstyle

[paper galleon]

so you are agreeing with me, it is very strong, what I said about 1k in weight I said as a joke, but if you want to take it seriously, do what you want XD

[limber hull]

i honestly think besides pachy being... the worst thing ever, cerato being insanely strong (still) and dilo being either the weakest or strongest dinosaur depending on if it decides to work or not

the game's honestly pretty balanced

[limber hull]

when did i agree it should be 1k in weight lol

[narrow cypress]

right now playing carno is a waste of time , i am carno player with more of 600 hours with carno , and i considered my self like a very good carno player and i can understand that cera is a little op but carno his function was to control cera population and right now that is imposible

[paper galleon]

the only good thing about carno is its speed, it does nothing else, even its load does less damage than its bite XD

[pliant elm]

I don't mind that the Cerato might ignore its niche a bit, but it's really pushing the envelope currently. Just as Carno must be a small prey hunter that has the ability to hunt larger things, Cerato must also have the ability to do so, just as Carno must.

[limber hull]

speed is quite literally one of the best stats to have in the game

[limber hull]

carno's function is not to control the cera population, if anything, carno was changed BECAUSE it was too good at controlling the cera population

[pliant elm]

A Cerato can fight a Carno completely well in the open and still win, but should the Carno be useless when fighting the Cerato close to a body?

[narrow cypress]

lmao , so who kills ceras??

dilos??

[paper galleon]

do you read or invent what others say? you have said that cerato is very strong, you have said it yourself, since it can ignore its niche, so you are agreeing with me that cerato needs a nerf (I simply mean because nerf is not necessarily weight, in fact I wouldn't like it)

[paper galleon]

the function of the neurons is to use them and from what I see you have forgotten

[icy lion]

No more of this behavior

[paper galleon]

oh cmon, okey

[limber hull]

brother i'm quoting the devs who quite literally said carno should not be attacking a cera

"one does not simply charge a rot wagon"

[narrow cypress]

and why a scavenger should be able to hunt everything and carno no?

[limber hull]

im not a fan of it either

carno is actually well designed and put into its niche, the issue is just cera is better with basically no downsides

[paper galleon]

the devs have said that the ptera is perfectly as it is, but the majority complains that it is very bad, the devs don't have the absolute truth, that is why feedback channels exist, keep agreeing with me

[sonic peak]

yo

[pliant elm]

Carno should not be able to control the Cerato population, but he should also not be useless in fighting them and winning if played well. The fight between Carno and Cerato was completely balanced before and Cerato already had the total advantage by having Body buff. Why does Cerato need something he's never needed before And that no one has ever even questioned having it?

[sonic peak]

why is carno the shittest dino now

why am i getting blocked ramming a CERA

[limber hull]

the devs also design the game

they quite literally do not want carno hunting cera consistently

idk what to tell you, just because you don't like it doesn't make it not true

[sonic peak]

its actually unplay able

[limber hull]

carno is a small game hunter, it's not meant to be punching to its own size, especially not against an animal that is designed to bully its own size away from corpses

[sonic peak]

OMNI raptor

[narrow cypress]

but able to kill larges preys

[paper galleon]

that's why I say that the game will die for not balancing it, they can do whatever they want, but they are releasing tell us that they are useless so, they waste time I guess

[limber hull]

also carno is not unplayable what???

just don't go after ceras lol, i love playing carno atm, it's way more fun than cera imho

[sonic peak]

carno is bigger then cera and wayyy stronger

cera is a scavenger not a hunter

so why is cera so op

[paper galleon]

neither does cerate and neither does dibble

[limber hull]

it's also a brawler

get in close range and it'll beat the hell out of you

[sonic peak]

yeah but why am i playing close range as carno

[limber hull]

cerato and dibble are both designed to brawl their own size and up, carno isn't

[paper galleon]

bcs devs like cera and hate carno, they pamper it a lot

[limber hull]

they gave carno tons of great buffs in the trike update, i doubt they hate it

[pliant elm]

You know Cerato already did this very well just with damage reduction, right? Xd

[sonic peak]

its litterally designed by god to ram into the sides of dinosaurs that outway it 10 fold

[paper galleon]

but what are you telling me that they can kill a dibble or a maia if they know how to play very well

[sonic peak]

what they increased the bleed by 0.2% and increased its growth

[limber hull]

it would immediately break its neck if it did that realistically

and in-game... well it'd look dumb

[paper galleon]

ª?XD

[sonic peak]

carno took on parasa

[sonic peak]

well what about pachy

same exact feature just harder head

[pliant elm]

Okay, so the ideal would be to make Cerato useless at hunting anything, but good at stealing bodies. Sounds cool, right?

[sonic peak]

they position there neck to withstand it so does carno

[limber hull]

pachy can't ram things that outweigh it tenfold lol

[meager dagger]

Tbf carno is ment to be bigger than Cera by a good bit they should rebuff it back especially with Allo coming into the game

[sonic peak]

yes it can

carno is 1.3 tonnes and can get leg broken by a pachy

[narrow cypress]

the elder cera will weight more than carno so will be the extincion of carno

[sonic peak]

so whys that then

[limber hull]

do you know what tenfold is

[meager dagger]

Pachy can ram up till 3 tons

[limber hull]

but carno is still faster than an elder cera so it can just leave

[paper galleon]

you can argue whatever you want, but playing it is perfectly clear that carno won't try to kill a dibble but ceras come to kill everything, ceras are the only ones that can try to kill herbivores concisely, that is simply absurd no matter how well you see it

[sonic peak]

elder carno is gonna be a feeble old man that can barely walk and has to live of frogs and tacos

from what there doing to carno

[limber hull]

you're thinking of seniors

[sonic peak]

it used to be the apex of the world 1.8 tonnes and 170 odd bite force

[paper galleon]

and eat sht from what I see according to you survives by eating air

[sonic peak]

and if carno is meant for small game why can an omni 1v1 and win

same for dilo

[pliant elm]

That's pretty much it. Carno will only gain 200kg and a bit of speed, while Cerato will have his base damage increased and gain 500kg...

[limber hull]

because the carno is especially bad??

how tf are you losing 1v1 to an omni as a carno

[sonic peak]

im not

[limber hull]

none of the elder stats are done so idk why we're so stressed about it

[meager dagger]

Rn carno can’t even ram a Cera that has a body

[sonic peak]

but i can win against a carno if im omni

like carno is built with strong legs and tail

[narrow cypress]

so the point is that carno is only uselees to fight with dilo and omni , i dont wont that , after trike update the battle between carno and cera was indredible and the player with more skill should win , i put here my stats to linked wath i have said

[sonic peak]

and swims like a newborn baby

[limber hull]

then the carno was bad

genuinely that's just sad for the carno

[paper galleon]

do you think it's good that a cera sticks 300, just like all herbs, while the meat sticks 125 when attacked? (that almost all the herbs 300 dmg with some attack is absurd)

[limber hull]

if you've killed 318 ceratos and only died to 78 doesn't that mean carno's fine against cera????

[narrow cypress]

2 updates ago lmao

right now i cant kill one xd

[sonic peak]

i think carno shud be buffed to 1.5 tonnes and or have to have less time on its ram to stun

[paper galleon]

let's use the neurons, don't you think the ceras didn't know how to play?

[paper galleon]

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[limber hull]

okay so like

a bad cera vs a good carno, the carno wins

[sonic peak]

yeah

[limber hull]

i dont see the issue there

[pliant elm]

While Cerato is congratulated for being a terrible player, Carno is forced to be extremely good.

[sonic peak]

but thats like saying a good omni v a trike can win

[meager dagger]

If they are both even Cera will always win

[sonic peak]

your not winning this argument

[narrow cypress]

true but the cera should be worse than my groundmother

[limber hull]

ehhhh...

no? i play a lot of carno and it's really not that hard at all

it's a very simple animal

[sonic peak]

its obvisous that cera is wayyyy to op and carno is 6 ft under in a coffin

[limber hull]

it even auto-attacks

[pliant elm]

Yes it is xd

[limber hull]

(they are removing the autoattack tho so maybe it might be actually harder then)

[pliant elm]

Even Omni or Dilo can beat a Carno in 1v1

[sonic peak]

bro a biepe can probs bleed it to death

[limber hull]

but carno i find exceptionally simple to play

run around, avoid anything that might be remotely concerning, kill small things and keep on vibing

every time ive played carno it's been really easy because of how simple it is to control your engagements

[narrow cypress]

like a pro carno not really

2 dilos vs 1 carno is th real figt

[pliant elm]

But Cerato must be fully protected by being near a body while Carno is destroyed by what he should hunt without problems?

[limber hull]

genuinely how tf

people keep saying that but i've NEVER lost 1v1 to a dilo or omni as a carno, I don't know how you manage that

[sonic peak]

well why does cera get a body buff for existing

[limber hull]

carno is fully protected by just... moving

[limber hull]

because it's meant to be near bodies

[pliant elm]

Dilo just needs to get close to you and put it on stage, then launch 3 clones and face tank

Dilo don't even need to dodge Carno's attacks

[sonic peak]

well cera outstams a carno and can walk quicker it bite 2.3 for every 1 bite for a carno

[meager dagger]

Not really a Cera walks faster and out stams it meaning if a dedicated Cera player just tracks a carno down after even one bite the carno is dead

[sonic peak]

its gets a buff for being on a body

[limber hull]

not at all, carno has more stam as of the trike update

[pliant elm]

Only 10s more than Cerato

[sonic peak]

and cera can just walk carno depends on stam

[pliant elm]

Cerato can also chase a Carno without any problems just by sniffing the tracks

[sonic peak]

its whole life is about maintaining its stam and if it gets to low

[limber hull]

i mean, that makes sense for an animal built around movement

[sonic peak]

yeah exactly and why can i barely move then i get turning speed has to be low for a fast dino because of balance

[pliant elm]

Like, everything points to Cerato never really needed a buff like this, as its 50-80% body buff damage reduction already makes it practically immortal to a Carno.

[sonic peak]

and the bleed buff

[pliant elm]

Can you tell me why Cerato actually needs a buff like this?

[pliant elm]

This too

[sonic peak]

its now 0.5% every tick if an omni bleed pounces

[limber hull]

maybe its just me but personally im fine with the body buff and stability changes

i just DESPISE how the "downsides" of a slowdown and a stamcost for charge bite just don't matter AT ALL

[meager dagger]

Again even more now because a fully charging carno can’t ram a Cera that’s holding right click over a body

[pliant elm]

Not even with these nerfs working properly, Cerato (A minimally good player) doesn't need this to deal with a Carno while taking 50-80% less damage lol

[sonic peak]

and why does cera make everything puke with 1 bite even on full stomach

[stone hatch]

I just think 1800kg carno was nice because it meant there was more overall interaction and variety in the ecosystem. Something that terrified tenos and large herbivores that were growing and also terrified a cera. now that is completely gone and we essentially have something that is functionally a cera that cannot kill anything larger than itself but is fast as hell

it lost its niche and aura completely

[sonic peak]

not even that just make teno wait and itll be fine

[stone hatch]

and now we will have 1500kg cera and 2.5 ton allo and nothing inbetween

like 10 dinos clustered around 1 to 2 tons and then we have allo and then we have psuedo apexes and apexes

there will be no true midtier predators besides allo at all functionally

[sonic peak]

mr rex u shud just stop ur trying to argue when all you do in the survial game is eat ai and run from everything

[stone hatch]

its like having a martial arts competition and having 30 contestants at lightweight and 30 at heavyweight and a few light heavyweights then one middleweight

[sonic peak]

carno v cera was the most balanced fight ever

[limber hull]

the issue with all that is it wasn't at all what the devs wanted for carno to do within the ecosystem

carno was meant to strike terror in juvis, small animals like raptor and so on. But instead, it just nuked ceratos and tenos, and ironically, sucked at the parts at hunting the small animals due to its exceptionally poor stamina and agility

so what ended up happening is we got "nuke carnos" which basically just hunted everything the devs didn't want them to hunt and avoided the things it was meant to

[sonic peak]

now carno v cera is like hydrogen bomb v orphan baby

[stone hatch]

well if that is the direction they want to take it then who am i to tell them their concept of game is wrong. I just am extremely concerned about how well rounded the ecosystem will feel

[sonic peak]

a solo cera can take 3 carnos if it holds it right mouse button over a dead baby troodon body

[pliant elm]

I agree. It was a fair fight for both of them. Cerato had a better chance of winning because he was slower, but Carno also had a chance of winning, but now...

[stone hatch]

in spiro genuinely everything could interact with one another besides stego/deino which could only interact with one another

[limber hull]

imma be real spiro balance was dog idk why we're looking back on it fondly lmao

[meager dagger]

A carno should be able to defend itself from a Cera like before the Cera buff a good carno could kill a Cera but now a good carno basically always looses to a half decent Cera

[limber hull]

carno being a forced pack predator because solo carno was that trash

[stone hatch]

in the open fields a teno, a pachy group, a raptor group, a cera and a carno were all exactly equal in potential and capability of violence

[limber hull]

also 6.5 pachy was godawful, and carnos NEEDED groups to work well

[stone hatch]

now if i am in a populated area as say a dibble for example I am just worried about nothing besides a cera pack

and if i am a pachy i have to run from everything besides solo dilo/raptors

[limber hull]

that's been the case since cera was added tbh lol

[stone hatch]

and if i am a carno ceras/teno are something i cant really interact with anymore

[limber hull]

they nerfed pachy in 6.5 and it's been awful ever since

[sonic peak]

and when cera is already insane they have max group of 4 but carno is 3 but 10x worse

[meager dagger]

Yea people complained and they still did nothing

[stone hatch]

its just that I really am concerned about players feeling like they can actually interact. Like in legacy there was just MASSIVE VOIDS between playables

[sonic peak]

pachy is still good 2 pachy can take a cera

[limber hull]

ehhh, barely

[stone hatch]

lol absolutely not

even a cera with all fractures easily 1v1s a pachy

the thing stuns itself in order to attack at all

[pliant elm]

Maybe. Cerato is practically immune to fracture

[sonic peak]

true

[pliant elm]

And can still use the charge bite even with a broken head xd

[stone hatch]

I think pachy should lightly stun everything below 1500 and i really dont see why thats crazy to say

[sonic peak]

fr but u cant ram with a broken leg

[limber hull]

no it absolutely should not

[sonic peak]

wich is valid dont get me wrong

[limber hull]

we already had that and by GOD it was bad

[stone hatch]

its at least the only dino in the game that actually has a punishment for missing its CC

[limber hull]

any amount of stun allows pachy to break a leg then just play keepaway for the rest of the fight, constantly stunning and retreating and repeating

[stone hatch]

it has the most telegraphed CC, it stuns you on miss, and it has the lowest HP. It has by far the highest risk out of any cc in the game (Which is great and we need more of)

[pliant elm]

I agree, but only if there was a cooldown between stuns or only if it could occur when causing fractures

[stone hatch]

I think stunning on fractures would be great

[limber hull]

that's good, i like that

[stone hatch]

it could let pachy stun and give itself opportunity to escape without it doing the repeated in and out technique

[limber hull]

i generally think fractures should stun in general, regardless of if a pachy gave it or not

if i fall off a cliff it should probably stun me

[stone hatch]

because you are right the whole repeated stun thing essentially plays like carno does now lol the hit and run charge

except a repeated stun would have less counterplay

giving it 3 stuns to land would be perfect. It would give it serious firepower to defend itself while avoiding the problem you described

[limber hull]

100% agreed

[stone hatch]

but also cera's fracture resist lowkey needs to be looked at bro genuinely 6 bonks to his behind and no leg breaks not even a body break

everytime i fight them

ive only ever stunned juvi ones that I can punt. and only to the body

[limber hull]

ironically, im pretty sure cera doesnt even have frac resist, just a ton of blunt health

[stone hatch]

but I bonk a carno in the leg and he just insta breaks

may be a hitbox issue. I just know everyone i ask about it agrees its nearly impossible to fracture a cera so clearly something is harder than it is on a carno

[pliant elm]

It could also be a desync issue. Many of Pachy's headbutts land but don't count, and don't even cause damage and fracture

[finite agate]

Bro i was running to sanc while reading this on my phone and all of a sudden I stop hearing my footsteps and I look up and I am falling off a massive cliff that literally took 5 secs to get to the bottom

[lyric solstice]

pachy should have a charged jump that can jump a lil higher, it needs a little tiny buff... i really dont know what else it needs that wouldnt turn it into a monster

[ornate pewter]

While it is quite reasonable for drought to drain a pond, I'm not sure circumstances can easily be cited where lakes or even ponds were drained by drinking wild animals alone.

The one exception being humans and our livestock.

Keep in mind, in nature, what goes in, must come out. We are not required to, but animals urinate, releasing nitrates into the ground, with the remaining moisture passing through the earth back to water tables with lakes and ponds.

We are also in the tropics, and apart from the dry season, our water sources should be reasonably well renewed by rain.

[lyric solstice]

ya thatll be a good balance for all the safe drinking spots and giving deinos more opportuniites

[ornate pewter]

Just do drought, and dry season. This happens in real areas where crocodiles live.

Animals don't drink lakes to nothing, that's silly.

[toxic wren]

Pachy having stun on initial fractures would be perfect, but it shouldn’t be stunning carnos and whatnot just for landing a hit.

Regardless, Utah being able to just keep running after a missed pounce makes Pachy’s self-stun feel very strange

[vital dove]

Here never was narrative Cera OP bcs she was never OP

[vital dove]

Cerate has weakness it is her speed, he has lower speed that any what he must hunt except Diablo, and in same time weaker than all what he must hunt except Maia, but anyway 90% of Ceratos will die from Maia bcs dont know hot wo play

[vital dove]

Carnos still killing Ceras in 99% cases

No interest continue read this

Just crying babies, instead ask why u have no any carniv that can hunt on herbiv he playing on 100% safe dino and cry why he cant kill other carniv in 100% of time but just 99%

Pathethick

Instead ask devs do nomral balance where carniv can hunt on herbies he ask for other carniv will nerf without any reason whe Cera already weak

She got nerfed by last patch but babies it is not enough he still crying

[limber hull]

ive seen good ceras beat maias

90% of ceratos are bad because it is easy

you got it wrong way round brother

it is the easiest carni in the game, there's a reason it's baby's first dino for so many

[vital dove]

Yes good ceratos can beat Maia if Maia will fight

But it is still difficult and 90% of Ceratos will dead

And Maia can run anytime

And u nothing cant do vs this, she just turn back and run from u

Cerat o it is most difficult Carniv in this game

U need huge skill for win at least something

[limber hull]

it literally eats rotten meat, for free, and gets diet from it, how is that hard

[vital dove]

U have zero easy mutchaps

And ALL except diablos can run from, u

[limber hull]

pachy is an easy matchup

[vital dove]

xd

[limber hull]

raptor is an easy matchup

[vital dove]

Hypsi too

[limber hull]

what does hypsi have to do with anything lmao

[vital dove]

I say about normal dinos

And ye 2 good pachies can jkill u

[woven bane]

have u played anything else

[limber hull]

2 good pachies know to avoid you

[vital dove]

On diablo/trike

[limber hull]

because 2 good pachies will die

[vital dove]

Yes they can kill u and can run u in same time

They really not, it is 50 on 50, Cerato can get randomly head atack and it is 100% death afte this

So

U forget Hypsy and Dryo

Cerato can beat them too, hell strong Cerato!!!

Instead ask devs for they UP carniv and do them like they can hunting on herbiv u cry for carniv would be nerfed when they already very weak

Pathethick grazing player

[woven bane]

cera can beat every herbi but stego and diablo

[vital dove]

xd

Even if u very skilled Cera player and u theoretically can kill someone solo they will just run from u

Bcs Cera have no speed

[woven bane]

40.2kmh is slow yes but not that slow when you look at teno and pachy, you’re also forgetting factors like how stamina efficient cera is and tracking

[vital dove]

Teno faster, pachy faster too, when cera do RMB he got additional slow on 10%

And Teno stronger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_HLQHIVl1A&ab_channel=6Mephistopheles9“6Mephistopheles9”

Look at moment on 0:51
It is what about Teno

Here Ceras bad it is true

But vs Teno like this 1 vs 1 no one Cera cant do nothing

Even best

[woven bane]

the guy was running straight into the tenos ass lmao

[vital dove]

U cant bite teno for not get atack from legs

[woven bane]

are you willing to come on an admin server

[vital dove]

Just vs bad Tenos that using tail atack u have window for bite them, vs Teno like on this vid u cant atack her and not get punishment atack, and usuall on 1 ur bite u will get 2 legs atack

[vital dove]

Yes

[woven bane]

euomni

[vital dove]

I alrady tried

Disconnected from here

I cant log in

[woven bane]

yes, the server was down at that time, it should be up now

[vital dove]

I tried it yesterday few times

still cant

[woven bane]

can’t hurt to try again

[vital dove]

Cant now

Will try near evening

U just play on server with 5 players in prime time

With ur friends that same low skilled

[woven bane]

all bark no bite

[vital dove]

And think that if u can beat ur low skilled friend that use Tail Teno atack it is mean u can beat normal Teno. Look one more time video that i droped to u, look how Teno moves and how he get stuns for cer even if hit in the end of Ceras tail

No one Cera in the world can beat Teno like this

Just bcs this dino brocken and must be nerfed

[woven bane]

what nerfs does it need

[vital dove]

Damage or speed or hp choose what u want AND hitboxes

Or turning speed

[woven bane]

i was hoping you’d say something reasonable like stamina

[vital dove]

U will never still alive to moment when Teno will end stamina

If he not spam Tail atack, but if Teno do this she will dead before stamina end anyway

[woven bane]

my main problem with teno is how forgiving it can be to miss with its kick, it costs as much as an alt bite but has all the benefits. teno is mostly fine balance wise besides that and the fact that its other attacks dosen’t feel as useful as they should

[vital dove]

"my main problem with teno is how forgiving it can be to miss with its kick" yes thats main problem why Teno is OP, he can miss with legs kick and u still have no window for safe atack her, she can spam it like no brain monkey and u cant do nothing to this, and ye she has VERY brocken hitbox

So thats why i want nerf Tenop turning speed

[woven bane]

OP is a stretch lol

[vital dove]

Stretch?

U mean Tail atack or wat?

[limber citrus]

Is Teno OP?

[limber hull]

No lol

[vital dove]

Yes

[limber citrus]

How

[vital dove]

Read above

[woven bane]

no, that you label it as OP is stretching the truth

[vital dove]

U cant bite teno for not get legs atack, and good Teno after first legs atack and stun u do seconde legs atack, for u cant do nothing for not get this

[limber citrus]

Just dont go behind a teno

[vital dove]

Xd

Bye boy

[dawn hound]

bait the teno and then bite it

[vital dove]

U cant

[dawn hound]

how so

[junior nymph]

no point arguing with vanilla lol

[limber citrus]

[vital dove]

Even if she miss with legs atack she can enough atack speed and turning speed for atack

Thats what i write all time

Thats why Teno OP

[dawn hound]

wait for the teno to tailslam which i think stuns its attacks more

[junior nymph]

for a animal to be OP imo is it being no skill

but teno does involve skill

[limber citrus]

You stand completely still when using tail slam iirc

[junior nymph]

yeah and cant attack for 1-2 seconds

[indigo gulch]

HOLY F BRO ARE WE STILL COMING BACK TO THIS?!

[limber citrus]

Yea exactly

[dawn hound]

ive killed tenos as carno

[junior nymph]

you know what doesnt involve skill cera

[dawn hound]

it aint that hard

[vital dove]

Tailslam vs Cera using just noobs tenos, in this case cera has window for atack Teno and not get punishments. Good guys can use it too but in specific situation when they sure on 100% that Cera have no opportunity atack them

[dawn hound]

agreed

[desert arch]

Grab popcorn

[vital dove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_HLQHIVl1A&ab_channel=6Mephistopheles9“6Mephistopheles9”

Look at moment on 0:51
It is what about Teno

[woven bane]

ragebait of the century

[indigo gulch]

Clearly a non skilled player

Argument invalid

[junior nymph]

me being sleepy and not paying attention you can still kill tenos, dibbles and stegs (a bit hard but easily do able)

[limber hull]

The fact that you repost this video, which I know to be from a guy who quite literally goes to complain about herbivores every time he loses to them, is hysterical

[vital dove]

I can find banch of other videos

[indigo gulch]

I WISH it was ragebait😭

[vital dove]

Just this video shgpowing on 100% what is the Teno

[dawn hound]

the second cera after the first one's death did good until he for some reason approached teno this closely to his legs and got kicked

[limber citrus]

It doesn’t

[indigo gulch]

It won’t matter if it’s the same guy

[dawn hound]

teno's kick attacks in all direction if close up to the legs

[junior nymph]

me when we have whole kill comps of ceras just obliterating everything

[indigo gulch]

Nah is weak bro trust

[junior nymph]

and guess what the cera does? hold right click wanna know how much damage it does? 300

[limber hull]

You’d think we’d have whole kill comps of tenos given how much stronger they are haha

Unless, god forbid, cera is better

[junior nymph]

lol

[indigo gulch]

Ignore the fact that I have killed good tenos as cera while barely playin cera

[desert arch]

345 actually 🤓

[junior nymph]

vanilla rn searching the web for another cera getting killed by a teno

[vital dove]

xd

[junior nymph]

yeah I thought it got nerfed lol

[vital dove]

I even will no answer seriopusly on this fat

[junior nymph]

WDYM XD

[vital dove]

What will do skilled player?

[dawn hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1325626165964181606/1385756395932225697/togif.gif

[desert arch]

Just keep reposting the video I made for Vanilla

[vital dove]

They reall bad Ceras, but nothing change if here was good Cera 1 vs 1 Teno i describe above why. U just unskilled guys that have zero understanding of this game

[junior nymph]

ive done full streams of me just murking stegs bro

[indigo gulch]

It literally changes everything but aight

[junior nymph]

we have more understanding than you 😛

[indigo gulch]

“Guys it doesn’t matter if teno bad teno is broken” “yeah even a good cera would lose here, source: trust me bro”

Are you seriously hearing yourself?

[vital dove]

It change nothing, good Cera same will get 2 kicks on each try bite Teno that why Teno OP even if he will misses with legs Cera players has no window for safe bite

[indigo gulch]

Rules for thee but not for meeeee

[indigo gulch]

Genuine skill issue mate, I don’t know what else to tell you

[junior nymph]

does anyone else have to think really hard to understand what vanilla types

[vital dove]

U baby that trying trolling with 12 years old clowning

[junior nymph]

example in point

thank you

[indigo gulch]

Oh I WISH I was 12 here, I’d be having some fun

[junior nymph]

if I was 12 I wouldnt be allowed on discord lol

[indigo gulch]

Details details

[junior nymph]

thats why im seven

[indigo gulch]

[vital dove]

Here example"me being sleepy and not paying attention you can still kill tenos, dibbles and stegs (a bit hard but easily do able)" It is such a bad trolling, i when was children already can be much better do it

U just trying be fat and clowning, it is name like "Trolling with stupidity"

[junior nymph]

I dont understand what you are saying

ive done it before i could do it again

[indigo gulch]

Genuine question vanilla, how old are YOU if you’re calling us 12?

[vital dove]

U already not understand ur own words

Sad

[junior nymph]

I just dont think english is their first language

[indigo gulch]

It’s not mine either

[junior nymph]

but the way they talk does remind me of my youngest cousin who is nine

so I dunno

[vital dove]

U dont know what answer bcs u have zero understanding in this game and just want for all carniv will in statement like this, totaly nerfed and useless and repeat zero mean phrase like a shield

[indigo gulch]

I have more hours than you

[vital dove]

No matter how u have hours

[indigo gulch]

And I’m a carnivore main

[vital dove]

U still zero skill boy

[indigo gulch]

Try again

[dawn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/enough-tuff-gif-8398912441684524616

[vital dove]

Raptors and Deinos it is not carniv

[indigo gulch]

Oh what are they?

[vital dove]

It is same easy gameplay like on herbie

[dawn hound]

true i saw deino eating dandelions in the fields

[vital dove]

U never will kill something big u just run on ur raptor kill juvies and AI, thats alll what u do

So u never play on carniv

[junior nymph]

but cera is skillful?

[indigo gulch]

Nah I’ve killed stegos with raptor it’s not that hard

[junior nymph]

same with carno?

[vital dove]

And even if u try kill smth big ur gameplay it is just deadbrain randomly jumpings, here need zero skill and zero difference beetwenn players, zero difference jumpings from 100000 hours raptor or from raptor who enable game just today

Thats why u never played on carniv

[indigo gulch]

I mean I could say I’ve played every carnivore but you would just say they aren’t carnivores because they arent cera

[vital dove]

Take skill depend carniv like Cera and go try kill someone, than come back in this chat and say sorry for all foolish things that u wrote

[dawn hound]

I love killing ceras as herrera

[indigo gulch]

Literally played every carnivore in the roster but go on chief

[vital dove]

No, Carno carniv too, easier than Cera but still okay

[indigo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[dawn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/bruhsplosion-boom-explosion-bruh-gif-20182710

[vital dove]

As i said "Take skill depend carniv like Cera and go try kill someone, than come back in this chat and say sorry for all foolish things that u wrote"

[indigo gulch]

What part of “I’ve played every carnivore in the roster” did you fail to understand

[junior nymph]

"guys cera is weak!" me watching mr grey and mr ceratosaurus shred everything

[limber hull]

ive killed so many things as cera i stopped playing it because it literally is too easy LMAO

[vital dove]

That part that "i killing AI" it is not equal "i playing every carnivore in the roster"

[indigo gulch]

Guess the whole server was bad

[indigo gulch]

The assumptions go CRAZY

[limber hull]

yes, every time i played it the server was bad lmao

[indigo gulch]

clearly

[vital dove]

U so cool, Hypsy and Dryos destroyer!! Kneel to our king

[dawn hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/860661511969439754/1253469019357450359/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_1.gif

[limber citrus]

I dont think cera can kill bigger herbis?

[limber hull]

i killed tenos, dibbles, maias and stegs

hypsis and dryos are harder to hunt lmao

[vital dove]

Xd

[dawn hound]

i saw a pack shred a stego to pieces

[indigo gulch]

They can, depending on the herbi

[limber hull]

good luck catching a dryo as a cera, its not happening

[vital dove]

Man lying in discord channel in discussion about dino game It is totaly paethethick

[limber hull]

hypsi is up the tree in 2 seconds

[junior nymph]

it can super easily

[indigo gulch]

“Man” assuming everyone in the discord is out to lie to him

[limber citrus]

Mb i wrote “i” instead of “you”

[vital dove]

xd

[indigo gulch]

Is okay👍🏻

[limber citrus]

Yea ik spelling mistake

[junior nymph]

xd

[limber hull]

i love the fact that this entire conversation boils down to "vanilla doesn't know how to play cera, blames everyone else"

[indigo gulch]

It’s “pathetic” there ya go👍🏻

[junior nymph]

facts

[vital dove]

Just this guy that said the he killed dibbles and stegs like solo Cera

[indigo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/boburnham-inside-netflix-internet-computer-gif-21887509

[vital dove]

And about Stegs even in pack from 6 Cera he would die in 99% cases

[indigo gulch]

That’s a skill issue

[limber hull]

i wasn't always solo lmao

[vital dove]

But he dont know it bcs he never try do it

[limber hull]

i never even said i was solo idk why you're assuming

[vital dove]

Yes and skill for kill even bad Stego has just 1% of Ceras

[limber hull]

what

[junior nymph]

that makes 0 sense

[indigo gulch]

Man this reminds me of those deino players that go “anything but deino is not a real carnivore”

[vital dove]

And they 1% of Ceras must meet together in pack of 6 Ceras and play perfect

[dawn hound]

what is this conversation even about anymore 😭

[indigo gulch]

Have you JUST started reading?

[limber hull]

oh he quite literally thinks raptor isn't a real carnivore

[junior nymph]

lol

[limber hull]

ask him, its incredible

[desert arch]

Troodon too 🥀

[limber hull]

in fact im pretty sure he thinks everything that isn't cera or carno aren't real

[vital dove]

About guys just throw with clown lying about things where they have zero understandment

[junior nymph]

dude I have to use my brain to foil together what vanilla is trying to say its kinda annoying

[limber citrus]

How many carnivores do we have in the isle

[indigo gulch]

That cera is weak, all other Carnivores are not carnivores because they only hunt ai (allegedly) and teno is broken because bad cera players cant kill it

[junior nymph]

inda did you understand that

we are talking about guys

[dawn hound]

i usually see ceras kill ai but ok

[indigo gulch]

I know, he told me directly

[vital dove]

Cera, Carno and Dilo

[limber citrus]

What

[junior nymph]

oh so dilo isnt no skill anymore ok

[indigo gulch]

Ah yes because DILO is so skillful

[vital dove]

Where i write it?

[limber citrus]

This gotta be ragebait

[junior nymph]

I can pull it up

[dawn hound]

bro wdym the servers are flooded with ceras

[vital dove]

From where?

[indigo gulch]

Message history

[desert arch]

If it is then Vanilla deserves an oscar, its been going on for almost a week

[vital dove]

I just forget about him

[limber citrus]

Yea it’s crazy

[indigo gulch]

That was fast holy

[vital dove]

But Dilo skill depence too

[indigo gulch]

Clearly not

[limber hull]

LMAO

[vital dove]

He just cant kill something cool

[indigo gulch]

Cuse it’s a herbi

[junior nymph]

you literally said it wasnt 💀

[limber hull]

Vanilla argues with Vanilla

[indigo gulch]

By your own words

[junior nymph]

also here

[indigo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-the-land-shark-jeff-marvel-rivals-absolute-cinema-gif-13695558822116321078

[junior nymph]

you argue with yourself

this is not our fight anymore

[vital dove]

I see it baby, i said that i just misswords

[indigo gulch]

Suuuuuuuuuure

[vital dove]

xd

[junior nymph]

you say alot and you missword stuff 24/7

[vital dove]

I just not play for Dilo bcs he can just wait when others will fight and than atack and kill someone

[indigo gulch]

Someone we both know could never

[vital dove]

For Dilos kill something big it need be really many Dilos

[limber citrus]

Why

[junior nymph]

I have never actually seen you have a coherent sentence I cant lie

its like a child bouncing between words

[indigo gulch]

Can’t be too mad about that, but it certainly does not help his points

[desert arch]

Something something herrera

[indigo gulch]

[vital dove]

Ask devs

[indigo gulch]

No? You are making the claim, you prove it

[vital dove]

Good self-criticism continue and mayeby u will stay a man

[desert arch]

Ive tried that, dont bother
#balance-feedback-discussion message

[indigo gulch]

Still havent answered my question btw

[junior nymph]

it wasnt self criticism I can pull out a sentence

[indigo gulch]

Ah yeah true

[junior nymph]

and the way you responded does prove my point even more

[limber citrus]

Why, you seem to know

[indigo gulch]

@vital dove ^

[vital dove]

Wat question

[indigo gulch]

^this one

[vital dove]

No u cant my boy, u can just clowning and be fat

[junior nymph]

💀

[dawn hound]

https://tenor.com/view/ragebait-rage-bait-lol-lmao-gif-3554026694133497645

[limber citrus]

[junior nymph]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1142704527577985054/1378805112545476688/rage_bait_2.gif

[desert arch]

I wouldnt say that if I were you, you dont wanna be banned do you Vanilla?

[junior nymph]

im fat 😦

vanilla said so

[vital dove]

I know in what balance they did, but i didnt know why they did like this

[indigo gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-mrbean-bean-mr-bean-holiday-mr-bean-holiday-movie-gif-3228235746377647455

Me waiting for the answer

[junior nymph]

you wont get a response

[dawn hound]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/968595189323165797/1061159826207543306/HumanFly.gif

[vital dove]

26

[junior nymph]

lies.

[vital dove]

xd

[indigo gulch]

And yet you argue like someone in high school

[dawn hound]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1279533225135439903/1339501495736995892/togif.gif

[indigo gulch]

Your words are not that of an adult, that’s for sure

[desert arch]

Im catching strays 💔

[indigo gulch]

Collatoral damage, I’m sorry

[vital dove]

With valid arguments? When other guys just crying at me with powerless rage bcs no answer on facts

[indigo gulch]

Alright so

[vital dove]

Which of them?

[limber citrus]

Not sure if Cera, Carno and dilo being the only carnis is facts

[indigo gulch]

You dismissing other carnivores is not a “valid argument”. That is based on your opinion. You physically cannot provide proof of that because it’s your opinion

[dawn hound]

Yes they are!!!! I saw a raptor feeding on tree bark!!

[vital dove]

Sorry even already AI can understand context of dialogue but not u. Here i mean that just this Carniv depence from skill and can do at least something. Others have zero skill demands

[indigo gulch]

Literally almost everything you’ve said the past hour and a half

[limber citrus]

😭

[vital dove]

Fire hot it is not my opinion, it is fact

[indigo gulch]

It objectively is not

[limber citrus]

Right.. but I did ask how many carnivores we have and that’s what you said

[dawn hound]

when you click play on carnivores, do you see the other carnivores infact?

iirc theres like 5 more

wait hollon

[indigo gulch]

Secondly, when you insult people in a discussion, it is a sign of weakness because you have run out of non personal arguments and you can’t refute (google translate that if you must) them

[limber hull]

here's what you gotta do

every time vanilla says "facts", replace it with "my opinion"

it makes everything he says make a lot more sense

[indigo gulch]

And third, the “I’m right so everyone else must be wrong” mentality has historically proven to not only come from insecure people, but also people that are wrong

[vital dove]

xd

[vital dove]

Sorry even already AI can understand context of dialogue but not u. Here i mean that just this Carniv depence from skill and can do at least something. Others have zero skill demands

[indigo gulch]

Even now, while I think you can’t make a proper argument to save your life, I am not dismissing them because that is how a proper adult discussion works. You listen to the other side, reevaluate your points if needed and continue.

[limber citrus]

Noted

[limber hull]

im pretty sure not even ChatGPT could understand what you're saying brother

[limber citrus]

Not sure if you read what I said

[indigo gulch]

And as someone who shares the same age group, I am frankly disappointed at the arguing skills that you have sadly not picked up on

[vital dove]

No when i saying my opinion i say "like i think " or "on my opinion" when i say facts i named it like facts

[vital dove]

No sure what u read what i said

[dawn hound]

@vital dove Deinosuchus, Ceratosaurus, Carnotaurus, Dilophosaurus, Omniraptor, Herrerasaurus, Troodon, Pteranodon. Thats the carnivore roster.

[vital dove]

xd

[limber citrus]

[dawn hound]

xdddddddddddddd

so funny

[vital dove]

No sure that u read what i said

[indigo gulch]

@vital dove and I am glad you read what I said.

[limber hull]

you'd probably do that if you were saying a fact tbh

[indigo gulch]

Anyways, I’m going out to buy groceries, bye bye

[dawn hound]

yall i am loosing braincells can you remind me what this conversation is about anymore

[limber citrus]

This is what I asked and you answered with misinformation

[desert arch]

Hurr durr teno op, cera weak

[indigo gulch]

^

[vital dove]

I not answer missinformation

Sorry even already AI can understand context of dialogue but not u. Here i mean that just this Carniv depence from skill and can do at least something. Others have zero skill demands

If u Chat Gpt old versions just say it

[dawn hound]

didnt it like turn into ''cera, carno and dilo are the only carnis in the game'' or did i misunderstood

[vital dove]

I will understrand that u cant keep in ur head contex of dialogue

[indigo gulch]

Been part of the “discussion” since the start

[limber citrus]

That is misinformation unfortunately, and that is a fact

[vital dove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_HLQHIVl1A&ab_channel=6Mephistopheles9“6Mephistopheles9”

Look at moment on 0:51
It is what about Teno

[desert arch]

Thats desync

[junior nymph]

thats not teno hitbox thats desync

[vital dove]

Show to ur friend this video and google some more on utube from others tenos

[desert arch]

I can just keep reposting the video I made for you 2 days ago, doesnt chance a thing lol

[vital dove]

When he will understand how to play Tenos duel vs him one more

[junior nymph]

same happens for literally everything on the roster

[vital dove]

No u cant bcs in ur video Teno do wrong things

[limber hull]

and in ur video cera do wrong things

woah

[vital dove]

I can just waste 1m and find ot u another videos with tenos

Just i want for ur friend which u dueled understand how play on Teno

[junior nymph]

I also have fought tenos on cera I have a literal video on it (its a bad teno but still) if teno was OP I would have lost but no.

[desert arch]

The 2 people I fought arent my friends lol
I met them on that admin server for the first time

As random as they get

[vital dove]

U play on 5 players server

[junior nymph]

how does that matter 💀

[vital dove]

And they even not ur fridns?

[junior nymph]

your whole thing is "you played with your friends the fights are invalid"

but no as he said they were just some people who were on the server at the time

[vital dove]

No

[junior nymph]

yes

in your words... xd

[vital dove]

My whole thins is "good Cera can win vs bad Teno but have no chance vs good Teno"

[desert arch]

Do I gotta show my discord message history or something now 😭

[junior nymph]

yes.

jarvis pull up the logs

[dawn hound]

barely anything can kill a skilled cera as of rn

besides deino ofc

[vital dove]

Wat?

[junior nymph]

deinosuckus

[dawn hound]

you know what deinosuchus is, right?

[vital dove]

U know whate are u wrote right?

"barely anything can kill a skilled cera as of rn"