general-feedback-discussion

[heady geode]

Oh I misread what message it was replying to, that was 2 days ago on petit

[keen wharf]

oh

[heady geode]

Same flying hack I’ve seen before by Crocnado I think, where they have control over descent

[normal shuttle]

LMAO

so true actually. Still seen people complaining about a few but nowhere as much

and HT has been very quiet as of recently

https://tenor.com/view/opposingly-jake-gyllenhaal-gif-21092186

[urban flax]

You upvoted your own feedback
Cringe

[normal shuttle]

so politicians voting their own party is cringe?

I am just exercising my Isle member rights

and only this time really

either way

it seems that herrerasaurus, being unironically more fictional (and realistically more powerful) than many superheroes in media out there, is actually not that popular and fun

like bruh

beipi and herra are ridiculously fake and they are fun

still some of the best playables currently

@maiden anvil only downvoted thinking about the insane constraints of making AI capable of climbing

and well, in all honesty herras and megs in the future have so much food elsewhere to get

[limber hull]

yes

[normal shuttle]

I unironically agree

I will take the L with that

I didn't read this entirely

but HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE A BLEEDER?

#general-feedback message

[woven bane]

creatively designed playables

[normal shuttle]

yup

they are goated and I am fine with more playables like that existing

also looking forward to magy so Zenny can just cry about how the ecosystem is ruined since there's magies you cannot eat /j

"B-but they don't give as much meat as stegos and no one can eat them!!!"

[maiden anvil]

Yeah that’s a fair point. Not to mention all animations to add

[normal shuttle]

mhm, too much work imo especially when herras can jump something or even fish

[urban flax]

politicians are cringe

[normal shuttle]

facts

[normal shuttle]

anyways, how can a nodosaur be a bleeder? If this guy means causing bleed with a shoulder bash, that would look so cursed

[urban flax]

I just don't like the idea of what's effectively a bigger minmi, also having 2/3 of our ankylosaurs be semi-aquatics

I also think having it be "minmi" but bigger actually makes it worse than minmi
Because it'll be slower, worse at hiding but also not strong enough to be able to fend off the biggest threats like anky is

[normal shuttle]

and all of them performing well in the water lol

If ava gets the legacy ava treatment I will crash out

[ancient kestrel]

Filipe said that

[ancient kestrel]

Upvoted your own idea? Pathetic

[bronze matrix]

I liked your feedback because making AI of playables I don't like either
but ava is probably gonna be better AI than a playable jduging from the concept art imo
small, somewhat slow version of a diablo that is an omnivore and can raid burrows
perfect boar replacement

[urban flax]

That's not a boar replacement if it has interesting gameplay

[median hound]

People could say the same about you sitting in feedback discussion, commenting every post coming in.

You ain't no admin, you ain't chit bro.
Sit back and let people state their own opinions on this dead ass game, without plumbing in your own opinions on-top of theirs! Imagine if admins had room to comment in the discussion.

Fun fact mate no-one cares about you but your mum mate.

[urban flax]

"perfect boar replacement" would be something that does nothing apart from getting killed by every carnivore rn

[urban flax]

He said it
He said the funny dead game

[normal shuttle]

come on dude

[bronze matrix]

it's not ... it's just another size version of a diablo with bit of sprinkle untop
it's gonna be the same as hypsie
everybody wants it to be a playable but the moment people realize that it sucks to play ava they are not gonna touch it anymore

[normal shuttle]

it's okay, I think self vote was bad too

just a light hearted thing

[ancient kestrel]

If anything it can cause bleed if getting bitten. But honestly there are better nodosaurids with more spikes

[urban flax]

It's omnivore and a burrow raider
There's more setting Ava apart from diablo than there is between diablo and trike

[normal shuttle]

somewhat slow for sub 1000kg standards probably, but this thing would probably be very damn agile and that would be good

and no

Ava is a super unique and interesting playable idea

[urban flax]

Just make it quadrupedal

[normal shuttle]

not only I don't think bigger carnivores should be given breathing room and food for free

[latent olive]

................

[normal shuttle]

but Ava is just goated as a burrow raiding omnivore ceratopsian

like BRO, IMAGINE BEING HUNTED BY A PACK OF AVAS

Absolute cinema

[untold geyser]

HI

[bronze matrix]

omnivore: it can eat eggs and small animals
burrow raider: it can go into burrows (which highly depends on people actually making burrows) and do omnivore things
the rest of it: small diablo stuff

not that interesting imo

[ancient kestrel]

Lmao thats quite passive-agressive. Watch your words. And yes upvoting your own idea is pathetic because if you proposed you own idea you already support it.
And this channel exactly for discussing feedback so I am in full right to talk about them

[latent olive]

the hell you mean, thats interesting as cactus

[urban flax]

Then might as well make diablo AI too, because it has even less going for it compared to trike

[latent olive]

an avaceratops ripping apart a homalocephaloe burrow because it wants to eat them

[normal shuttle]

and I agree. It's okay

[bronze matrix]

probably gonna be more agile than a juvi diablo i give you that but the gameplay will probably feel the same
you try to hide and max out your nutrients because you can't run from anything that can kill you easily
at least i hope it can't because that would be weird

[normal shuttle]

still more in its kit than dibble and dibble will never be AI

[normal shuttle]

or maybe you can since not everything has to abide by the same rules. Nothing wrong with sub avas outrunning ceras or tenos

plus ava isn't built the same way at all

it is slimmer, less rotund

[bronze matrix]

that's on the devs, they made those two not distinct enough and I hate it
but at least a dibble can run away from an apax

[normal shuttle]

they are fairly distinct

[ancient kestrel]

Game so dead that it reached 14K active players record recentely

[normal shuttle]

they share the same core mechanics but that is like saying legacy allo plays out the same way as rex

[bronze matrix]

i saw you snuck the "sub" in there :D

what about the adults

[heady geode]

Was Ava a playable on legacy? I thought it was just ai

[bronze matrix]

just ai

[normal shuttle]

yeah because we are discussing young animal viability and I don't think younger avas have to be slower

Adults could too

[untold geyser]

technically playable with sandbox but it was AI

[heady geode]

Thought so, why would it be a playable at all though? We just need big ai, unless they make it something human like Ava is already fitting the bill

[ancient kestrel]

||I don't have mom btw||

[heady geode]

Horse Ai , Cow Ai

[normal shuttle]

BRUH

[latent olive]

why do you keep replying to his one message over and over

[untold geyser]

the ragebait worked too well 😔

[bronze matrix]

i was talking about adult avas and compared them to juvi dibbles but i think i might have messed up there size-wise

idk tho

[normal shuttle]

it was AI cuz why not in a map that huge when most players go carni, but should evrima have never been a necessity, all sandbox dinos would have made it into survival

[normal shuttle]

They could be the similar size to some juvenile dibble but still faster and more agile, or even more damage. Ava could be 100% viable and unique

[heady geode]

Fair, I get that ai and playable of the same thing is bad, I remember teno ai being bait, and not very good anyway. But if there’s not going to be many people playing niche Ava playable it doesn’t feed many carnis

[ancient kestrel]

Because it packed wit so much cringe and he uses so weird language that it takes time for me to fully understand and respond on all points he made

[heady geode]

Maybe a quick way to distinguish an ai Ava if you yourself are a playable Ava

[median hound]

Man you fr a dead chit. Ill spell it out for ya mate.

• Yup! your right, hella increase in players.
• mad unique game, who wouldnt be keen.
• Then they get one tapped by hackers after eating shrubs and growing for hours.
• They say, ah that sucks, but lets run it again, Same thing happens.
  -Third times the charm, surely not.
  -Get Full grown, start your walk to South plains as its the only spot on the entire map people group at, trash map style tbh.
  -Happens again, one tapped by a baby cera after growing for most of the day.

They say man like wut..?
Give game a break for a couple days.
Go to youtube, See the flood of youtube videos talking about/ showing hacking

Decide this game isnt ready yet, despite it being 5 years of development, WITH A TEAM, not a solo bob, already taking our money and all.

So they say, ahh its not ready yet, and go back to playing league of legends

[heady geode]

Like bringing back ai teno but if you are playing teno you can literally sniff them out as an imposter

[ancient kestrel]

You saying it like hacker problem was this big for years

[normal shuttle]

but that last line could be applied to almost everything that is underpicked. For example pachy, why not make it AI since almost no one plays it? Or Dryo? Hypsi?

But they can still bring a lot of gameplay value to the roster

[heady geode]

I have also been one to say if X playable doesn’t have many people playing it, it gains an ai population, so every dino is on the map lol

[ancient kestrel]

Also League of Legends sucks as all MOBAs do

[heady geode]

There are times when there is for sure not One dryo on the entirety of even petit, so if it reaches that absolute 0 point, put in a dozen ai dryo!

[bronze matrix]

look if they give ava something besides buffs (in comparison to dibbles of the same size), entering burrows and eating frogs that makes them actually unique then I'm all for it. Rn it just seems like a small dibble with a bit more window dressing.

[woeful latch]

the isle

[normal shuttle]

that is lame. Because then you are creating a vicious circle where people won't play that thing because they don't want to hang around AI

[untold geyser]

thank you cheesy

[heady geode]

It’s an unwinnable situation, useless niche dinosaurs suffer and then suffer more if they were to be played

[woeful latch]

doing my best

[heady geode]

Because all people want to do is eat the niche useless dinosaur because it’s Lines

[ancient kestrel]

Considering the ambitions and size of the team 5 years ain't much. Especially considering that proper big game usually takes 8-10 years of development. And Afterthought doing something which no one did before so it takes extra difficulty to make such game - it's much harder than make another wonky open-world RPG or first person shooter

[normal shuttle]

it could have a good drift, different sparring or attacks (like that damn jumping bite lmao jumping ava would be hilarious and peak) and then burrow raiding and actually being a predator if it wants the dietary boost. Seems good as a playable to me

An omnivore who actually can eat players or scavenge corpses and for once isn't a therizinosaur/ornithomimid/oviraptorid

[bronze matrix]

the predator angle could be unique but i don't see that from the concept art
I just see nest raider and small animal eater which galli is too

[untold geyser]

I think "ornithiscian omnivore" would have worked

[ancient kestrel]

Omnivore pachy

[untold geyser]

or just non-theropod

[heady geode]

it’s had Enough of the raptors

[normal shuttle]

galli can only eat tiny mid AI like crabs and compies that it can swallow, whereas this thing in the concept just goes and eats the eggs and also the babies there by pieces, because it has a beak. It can bite and chew, meaning that it absolutely has the tools to not look dumb opening a corpse and feasting on the organs of a large carcass

galli and beipi literally do not have the anatomy for that

neither does cheirus

Ava has a mouth that could work for eating large animals or even having access to cannibal mut if the devs wanted to go freaky

[median hound]

You reckon? Five years with a team.

The games not indepth AT ALL, its just a jungle map, with dinos attacking dinos.

With your logic, You would assume Skyrim, with its genuine depth, took what 30 years to build ay?

These muppets just need to make a decent map (can be done in a day), and then work on and release dinos.

Yes - it takes work, dont bother replying with such bs. Think bigger.

After five years, The biggest, most hectic/awesome/aww bringing dino, is a cera LOL.

This game is in slow mode. Dont lie.

[normal shuttle]

wow

[bronze matrix]

again cool angle!
i don't see it in the concept art
the concept art is basically just: "look it's an omnivore" which as of rn just means nests and small animals
at least that's what I think the devs will do with it

[normal shuttle]

downplaying final boss

[median hound]

im not talking to you mate. jog on.

[woeful latch]

“can be done in a day”

you know what? do it yourself if it’s that easy

[median hound]

what a backwards, dead chit comment.

[woeful latch]

do it

[median hound]

Like your name, cheesy muppet. On your way mate. noone talking to you here.

[woeful latch]

yeah sure, you said it easy then do it

[median hound]

Shut your mouth when your talking to me you proper goose. wasnt even talking to you.

[woeful latch]

alright, i feel generous, im giving you a week, should be enough

[normal shuttle]

they wanted warthog niche too from what they said a while ago, and tbh concepts can also vary and be somewhat different. Nothing wrong with allowing it to eat flesh and scavenge large carcasses (or even hunting) if it has been shown to be an omnivore

[woeful latch]

do the map, you said it’s easy

[thick summit]

What's with all of the goose hate

[woeful latch]

dude got crazy mad and left the chat

[normal shuttle]

No game/dev is immune to criticism. But neither is the critic. If someone says something that is intentionally misleading or hilariously wrong to downplay effort put into a game, I will point that out

and honestly getting this upset does not help someone sound convincing

[thick summit]

Ooo I get it...you're a jealous duck

[median hound]

hahahahah man you talk like igaf what your saying.

Do you even know how to make a map as were talking about? It takes mouse clicks. Dondi has actually released a vid of him doing so.

It doesnt take much to make the actual map. but bless your cotton socks little kid

[woeful latch]

good, make a map

it’s so easy to ragebait people nowdays, that’s crazy

[median hound]

Ayyy man talks quick. What a head ahahahah

[thick summit]

A detailed and optimised map takes a while

[median hound]

rage bait? im just talking chit to poison here. Im just talking down to you as youve stepped in where noone asked. take a hike bloke. change your DP while at it

[thick summit]

Nobody thinks you're funny so please try to be at least somewhat respectful

[woeful latch]

🥺🥺🥺 maybe you can.. hmm cry about it instead? 🥺🥺🥺

oh you already do..

[median hound]

hahahahahaha

[bronze matrix]

this guy is hilarious
I'm just gonna lean back and observe

[untold geyser]

[thick summit]

They stole their mummy's phone

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/n3gat1ve-simon-gif-22685414

[thick summit]

This is quite hilarious

[normal shuttle]

this is quite sad

[woeful latch]

i think they’re just having their first ever conversation or something LOL

[median hound]

typical americans. All spine over the internet LOL.
Best country on earth yous preach, but the rest of us say thank the lord we dont live there hahahahah!!

[thick summit]

Criticism should be done in a respectful manner yet they insult and think they're funny

[woeful latch]

i see weird stuff here time to time but this guy is special needs patient

[thick summit]

I'm british ya goober

[normal shuttle]

I am in EU...

[bronze matrix]

oh boy I'm american?

[urban flax]

Hating americans is fair
Assuming everyone who disagrees with you is american is another thing

[woeful latch]

keep crying and i’m not even from US

[thick summit]

We are American now

[untold geyser]

NOOO

[woeful latch]

lmaoo

[urban flax]

Just like Rammstein said
"We're all living in Amerika"

[untold geyser]

I think I'll use my credit card.

[woeful latch]

absolutely wild

[bronze matrix]

wow that seems wunderbar

[untold geyser]

Anything gluten free?

[normal shuttle]

time gain weight like a juvi trike

[woeful latch]

🫥

[ancient kestrel]

Yes. Absolutely.
Diet system, migrations, mutations, nesting, nice combat mechanic, playble characters where nothing plays the same, carefully designed srivival aspect in general . You in-general misunderstand this game which is sad. It's a survival-horror not a fighting game even if combat mechain present. If thats no depth for you I just don't know what's in place of your brain - Peanut?

Map is decent.
Are you ignore that they released like 6 playbles in 2023 (and another 2 in 2024)? Thats not to speak how much content they brought in the las 2 years. They had slowed down pace previously before 2023 due to UE5 transition issues but thats not the case anymore. You must be blind to not see changes.
Development going quite in a fast pace.

[normal shuttle]

It is very hard to win an argument with a smart person

It is impossible against a stupid one

give up

[bronze matrix]

it's not impossible
you just have to out-stupid that guy

[woeful latch]

yeah why would you argue with them, just make fun of them instead lol

[normal shuttle]

he will beat you by experience, as Mark Twain said

[normal shuttle]

yup

[untold geyser]

everything you are saying is wrong I can make a perfect map in 39 minutes.
delete carno, delete cera, copy paste maia's stats onto dryo

[ancient kestrel]

I am stupid too. So this might work may be

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-steve-minecraft-movie-jack-black-gif-12974288341122943699

[bronze matrix]

this guy gets it

[woeful latch]

i think i need the pink role to fish react people.

such power

[thick summit]

I love how they just vanished after their racist comment

Nvm

[normal shuttle]

lol

[untold geyser]

you just had to open that big ol mouth

[bronze matrix]

hell yeah

[thick summit]

My bad 😔

[median hound]

hahahahahah what a bunch of losers

[thick summit]

[untold geyser]

yes.
everyone else is the problem.

[thick summit]

They're like powerplex

[median hound]

Games a str8 dud. Yous enjoy growing for hours and sitting at south plains looking at AI doin FA, then getting clapped by hackers. rinse repeat! hahaha.

[thick summit]

ouch I hit my toe...IT'S INVINCIBLE'S FAULT

[untold geyser]

guy from breaking bad

[urban flax]

You probably do too, since you're still here

[thick summit]

I don't sit at South plains! I sit at West access

[bronze matrix]

yeah dude get a load of this society

[frigid mesa]

Why do you play on official servers?

[median hound]

ahahahah nah man i stopped playing a few days back. as i said, games a dud

[median hound]

Played the one aussie unnoficial, by myself, lasted about 20 mins mate

[untold geyser]

so leave lmao
game clearly isn't for you

[frigid mesa]

You guys just sit at one spot of the map? I roam around

[median hound]

already have done ya muppet. save the comment and move along hahahaha

[thick summit]

That was a joke lmao...I roam around as well

[ancient kestrel]

If you talking with someone in public channel embrace the fact that other people will join dicussion. Stop being salty to people for no reason

[bronze matrix]

i like to sit in highlands

[untold geyser]

..you're still here

[median hound]

fair.

[thick summit]

I think I'll grab a snack rq

[frigid mesa]

Oh but I do only roam the rivers and swamps since I’m a deino main

[thick summit]

This is pure cinema

[normal shuttle]

git gud

[bronze matrix]

gotta give it to him
his performance as the evirma joker
pretty good

[normal shuttle]

mad cuz bad, cannot beat the one speed hacker he found after coming across countless others

[ancient kestrel]

I am russian btw

[frigid mesa]

I’m Australian

[normal shuttle]

I am a Viltrumite

[thick summit]

Nah, all of us are 100% American

[untold geyser]

woag

[bronze matrix]

booo

[median hound]

Russia is the new iraq brother sorry bout it. Yous cant even take a small bordering country like ukraine.

Aint been chit since pre 80s player

[normal shuttle]

puny

[normal shuttle]

WHAT

[thick summit]

Why is it getting political

[normal shuttle]

BRUHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

[bronze matrix]

ohy boy it is getting political

this guy keeps on giving

where is evirma batman when you need him

[thick summit]

I think it's time to use my secret weapon

[urban flax]

I'm sorry to break everyone's fun but I think it's time to call a <@&933486433342222376> before it's not fun anymore

[thick summit]

<@&933486433342222376>

[median hound]

hahahahahah words hurt

[normal shuttle]

I am going to tell mum!! 😛 blep blep blep

<@&933486433342222376> this guy getting political in feedback discussion and has been insulting others for a while

[median hound]

typical

[thick summit]

Same brain wave

[normal shuttle]

cope and mald scrub

[frigid mesa]

Is it too late to say American food doesn’t taste good

[median hound]

spine is spelt S P I N E

if wondering.

[bronze matrix]

forgot the laugh

[untold geyser]

what is american food..

[median hound]

trust me im laughing at yous but.

[untold geyser]

I HATE THIS PHONE FHAJFBDJH

[thick summit]

XENON

[median hound]

lil muppets. rage on!!!

[thick summit]

TWO SPELLING MISTAKES??? IN A ROW?? 😭

[frigid mesa]

Good question food made from American meat products

[untold geyser]

I literally can't type on this phone it's so narrow

[frigid mesa]

Idk what’s wrong with their meat but it doesn’t taste natural

[normal shuttle]

Mr Carno on his way to have the most atrocious takes known to man

(he downvoted my plea to make ava a cool playable dino)

[untold geyser]

At least the second mistake worked since d and r are technically the same letter

[urban flax]

I don't think it is

[urban flax]

No you don't get it
He downvotes good suggestions
Proof : he always downvotes mine

[ancient kestrel]

First, what my country have to do with me talking in this chat? Second, don't talk politics here: it's just small feedback channel to talk about tiny dinosaur survival game

[frigid mesa]

Ehh maybe cause I’m Australian and our meat taste different

[latent olive]

he’s muted, so he can only rage against the iron bars through reactions

[normal shuttle]

he also did upvote ptera stamina ones which I think is hysterical

Been a whole year without saying a thing, too

[latent olive]

hes been doing this for like, 2 years now

[normal shuttle]

LMAO

[urban flax]

That's cuz he's muted

[normal shuttle]

hilarious

[latent olive]

I don’t even remember why he was muted, it’s been so long

[untold geyser]

there is lore I am missing here

[latent olive]

I think it’s because he had an argument with wavepoole that got heated but I might be thinking of, like, at least 50 different people

[normal shuttle]

Wavepoole my beloved

[frigid mesa]

Interesting

[urban flax]

His last message was during an argument with Wave
But I think that was just him being toxic in every conversation he was a part of

[latent olive]

possible

[thick summit]

Owlenstein

I like Megalania

[rotund fractal]

Why are you all arguing here? First of all, this is a place where you can respectfully discuss individual ideas and suggestions and not who downvoted which message. Guys come on, a little more together 🙂

[bronze matrix]

sometimes he likes my stuff
so I'm ok with that guy

[latent olive]

I see someone’s using internet explorer

[normal shuttle]

Megalania is good

[rotund fractal]

? and than

[latent olive]

currently we’re discussing Mr. Carnotaurus “Woke” Cannibalism, the notorious anti-herbivore feedbacker

[normal shuttle]

definitely better than titanoboa /lh

[bronze matrix]

oh boy

[normal shuttle]

How dare herbivores be competent

[urban flax]

Quad carch won't be viable and will look stupid

[latent olive]

attack this man

[normal shuttle]

I made a small edit

[latent olive]

give him mixpacking stress debuffs

[thick summit]

Jaguar carch 🔥

[urban flax]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-gif-21009408

[normal shuttle]

quad carch unironically becoming the most played apex carnivore

leaving giga and spino in the dust

[untold geyser]

herbi bias herbi bias

[bronze matrix]

a server with all the players playing quad carch

just climbing on palm trees

[normal shuttle]

peak

[latent olive]

what living in the tiny world of a lizard or skink would look like

[normal shuttle]

also please

if they make ava a playable

it better eat other players

Imagine juvenile dibbles being hunted and devoured by adult avas

[urban flax]

No
Frogs and compies only

[ancient kestrel]

#general-feedback message you missing one thing. If ava will be both playable and AI you can troll stupid carni player by pretending that you AI and then suddenly murder them like in Legacy.

[normal shuttle]

god forbid omnivores having any bit of carnivore gameplay

[bronze matrix]

boo boring

[rotund fractal]

But what did Mr Carno do or wrote that you gonna hate him here so much?

[urban flax]

Yes
Omnivores deserve nothing but to be herbis who cannot graze

[barren crater]

bro's been at it for over a year

[latent olive]

who said we were hating him

we were discussing how he got muted and that he has been muted for a long time

he downvotes ANY herbivore post

[bronze matrix]

he seems to hate a lot of the people here
not me tho
he's cool with me i think

[normal shuttle]

but then you are implying ava is the playable AI rather than having the same status as everyone else

And honestly AI ava to keep larger carnis well fed doesn't sound good

[untold geyser]

owlenstein

[normal shuttle]

hates herbi/omniv fans

[bronze matrix]

then make it smaller

[untold geyser]

when I try and type owlenstein it tries to autocorrect to @latent olive

[ancient kestrel]

I doubt that Ava will be big enough to sustain apexes

[bronze matrix]

with me as an exception
just saying / bragging

[normal shuttle]

then make ava a playable and solely a playable instead of boar but with scales and horns

[normal shuttle]

true, but it would give a lot more food than a boar

and potentially organs too, so that's a big no

[bronze matrix]

if they ever give ai organs, i'm gonna riot

[normal shuttle]

if they ever make ava or any cool dinosaur with a concept AI, I will riot

[ancient kestrel]

Eh. I really don't think that they will scrap whole new AI system because you think it will break balance. I think big AI dinos will be just rare

[bronze matrix]

i hope you have some molotov cocktails ready because they are probably gonna do that
idk if they'll use them on officials but ...

[rotund fractal]

To AI Topic, no Dinos as AI and maybe a a elk as AI whos little bit bigger than a deer and bring a little bit more and I am happy

[bronze matrix]

elk is massive
too big imo

[rotund fractal]

let me check

[normal shuttle]

just give the AI coding you're making to the animal AI

and we're good

[rotund fractal]

2 meters is a elk, good thing I think

[normal shuttle]

but weight wise? How much?

[indigo gulch]

Man that was a fun backread with the mad bri’ish bloke

How’s everyone doin

[barren crater]

damn you did him dirty

[rotund fractal]

700 kg in reallife thats max absoulutly max @normal shuttle

[ancient kestrel]

It's not exactly the same and if they pushing this - that means they have means to balance it without making apexes growth too easy by that since they definitely didn't scrapped idea that apexes supposed to be hard to grow

[barren crater]

clearly isn't British 😭

[normal shuttle]

too big

[bronze matrix]

Also somewhat controversial:
Even mammal AI is kinda off ... mammals suggest they also have organs to be harvest altho they should not offer them
Invertibrate AI all the way

[indigo gulch]

Haha shouldn’t have used so many british looking insults

[normal shuttle]

I also dont want "mid tiers" to survive for a large chunk of their growth with purely AI. Imo only carno and below should be able to sustain themselves with that

[frank tapir]

where'd you get that from? most I can find says the max is 590

[normal shuttle]

still too big really

I don't think there should be any AI above 200-300kg ever

[frank tapir]

aren't the boars 300?

[ancient kestrel]

I am pretty sure devs knowing what they are doing with that. It probably will be much more rare than boars

[rotund fractal]

wikipedia and that was male elk, female elks are ca 500

[normal shuttle]

130kg ingame

[bronze matrix]

yea they are massive
also probably would not fit the current map

[normal shuttle]

still bad if they relegate Ava to a perceived status of AI background animal that you can play as

Ava is very unique and it would be a big waste

[ancient kestrel]

So (when it releases) just play ava and make people fear ava to prove that it's not background animal
Option of being AI additionally to being playble isn't waste of potential.

[frigid mesa]

What if they added the giant frog and snapping turtle

[frank tapir]

are you sure you're looking at the kilograms? the largest weight on wikipedia is 600 kg

[urban flax]

The giant frog ? Beelzebufo ? The 3kg giant frog ?

[bronze matrix]

love the idea, implementation and how it affects players might be problematic

[rotund fractal]

yess 700 kg

[frigid mesa]

Who said it’s gonna be 3kg they could make it bigger

[frank tapir]

can you send a photo?

[urban flax]

Why ? Even more free food for deinos ?

[bronze matrix]

just put it in the mud pools only

[rotund fractal]

Its german but you can see last row

[frigid mesa]

Is that the only thing you see a giant frog and snapping turtle as just free food for deino?

[normal shuttle]

Ah yes, like frogs in rivers where they just end up wandering off into the land

[urban flax]

Yes

[bronze matrix]

it's a toad
please

[frigid mesa]

I get the frog but the snapping turtle?

[urban flax]

Food for deinos and a threat for juvie beipis, ok ? What's the point ?

[normal shuttle]

I mean, beipi right now cannot eat anything it cannot directly swallow, so yeah

[ancient kestrel]

I need those giant sawfishes from planet dinosaur in episode with spino

[normal shuttle]

Literally elite fish

[rotund fractal]

I would say, keep the AI animals and the system, just fix the spawns and maybe balance how much AI gets to specific animals in between of there size. Why add more AI animales? See no required for it, thats my point to ai

[ancient kestrel]

Are you suppose that sucho also should eat only elite fishes? We need bigger fish and freshwater turtles

[normal shuttle]

Giving Ava a fully fledged jump would be hilarious too

This thing can be so peak

Eating baby trikes and dibbles, or having cannibal mut available

[foggy field]

Its kind of stupid, since beipi can swallow a fish, but cant swallow a fresh spawn troodon

[foggy field]

Or a hacthling

[frigid mesa]

It’s a snapping turtle you can make huge if you wanted to

[normal shuttle]

And also beipi can eat fish normally as a fresh spawn

[bronze matrix]

also make AI more interesting than just fodder that sometimes runs away and sometimes attacks
there should be AI with interesting behaviour patterns

[frigid mesa]

Why stop at those when we can added more fish

[urban flax]

What for ?

[normal shuttle]

We can add candiru fish as a threat for humans crossing waterways

If you know you know

[frigid mesa]

It being a giant turtle isn’t enough

[urban flax]

Food for deinos and a threat for juvie and adult beipis ? Like beipis don't have it hard enough already with elite fish swallowing them whole ?

[bronze matrix]

stop

[frigid mesa]

They do?

[urban flax]

It could be a pink hippo with wings I wouldn't care any more about it

[frigid mesa]

Now that my friend is an idea of a playable

[normal shuttle]

Not fg but yeah, 60-70kg beipis can get eaten by elite fish

[ancient kestrel]

I mean this is fair. It's elite after all

[normal shuttle]

Beipi is the elite elite fish

[frigid mesa]

Would it hurt even more that I was gonna suggest a 6 meter carnivorous freshwater fish that some scientists speculate that could of beached it self like an orca

As a playable?

[normal shuttle]

Yup, because you have to think that AI is inherently easier to kill than a player under the same conditions

[rotund fractal]

yeah I Agree with them but add other AI animals specially Dinos, nahh dont do that dear devs! xD

[normal shuttle]

Also a playable fish sounds like deino but much worse

[urban flax]

What's with people and playable fish

In a game about dinos

[frigid mesa]

Cause it’s fish got dammit why not

[normal shuttle]

Imagine spawning in a secluded waterway and remaining there for all of your lifetime

[urban flax]

Because it's fish

[frigid mesa]

We have an overgrown crocodile and lizard as playables why not a fish

[normal shuttle]

Fish just have so many constraints and it would be such an abysmally terrible playable, on top of being out of place in a game like this.

[urban flax]

Because it's a fish

[bronze matrix]

we'll already get megalania so that door is already somewhat open

[frigid mesa]

We almost got the snake

[urban flax]

Literally deino but worse

[normal shuttle]

“Almost”

[urban flax]

Not a fish

[frigid mesa]

He gets the idea behind it

[frigid mesa]

Why not goddamn it

The lizard and crocodile are already good examples why not the fish

[normal shuttle]

We only have reptiles and fish is not a reptile afaik

And please, just think about how bad of a playable that would be balance wise

Just deino but with less prey items, weaker, zero agency over what you can eat, restricted to less than 5% of the map and with all of the hotspots disconnected from major waterways

[bronze matrix]

but tbh idk if the devs should spend resources on that
just wait for mods to add that some time in the future

[normal shuttle]

Impossible to live anywhere but in the delta or swamp

[normal shuttle]

Imagine spawning in water access and choosing to remain there forever or jumping to the lower river but with literally 0 chance to ever return there

[frank tapir]

#general-feedback message @vestal vapor that's a dlss issue, you just need to turn it off

[normal shuttle]

That’s so miserable 😭 😭 😭

[frigid mesa]

Did you forget the orca thing it was speculated it might be capable of?

[normal shuttle]

A giant predatory fish would be deino but infinitely worse somehow

[urban flax]

Exactly
Same as deino, but can't walk at all

[vestal vapor]

yes it is. but only on official servers do I have that issue.

[ancient kestrel]

7m Sawfish AI will be cool to harras deino and beipi players even more

[frigid mesa]

Why walk when it can pull or flop like a seal or orca

[frigid mesa]

Big fishy

[foggy field]

Would be more like a food source for spinos and deinos

[urban flax]

Devs have already said no to a suicide button

[frigid mesa]

Damn

[urban flax]

Unless you literally expect a fish to be able to flop its way through the jungle from one waterway to another and not die like the fish it is

[ancient kestrel]

What it have to do with suicide?

[normal shuttle]

So? That doesn’t help at all

How is it going to help that you can get beached for anything but ambushing clueless players? And you cannot walk, meaning that all of the land, Highlands Lake, Water Access (if you are downstream), South Pond, West Rail, West Access, North Lake (if you are downstream), East Plains and South Plains ARE LITERALLY UNREACHABLE

And all of your water sources are also inescapable.

do you possibly realize how absurdly awful, abysmal, mind numbing, luck reliant, boring, monotone, uninteresting, unappealing and unviable that would be?

Deino is already the worst playable in the game by a huge margin and you are proposing Deino but with less prey items available to snatch and even less terrain it can thrive in

😭

[urban flax]

Have you ever brought a fish on land and watched what happens ?

[frigid mesa]

Some fish like arapimha are air breathers

[ancient kestrel]

I mean deino also dies on land because it dies of thirst very quick

[normal shuttle]

So most water sources are still unreachable because a fish flopping forward for +5 minutes would look unfathomably stupid

Especially if it does it quickly

[urban flax]

Yes
Is that in favor of making a fish playable viable ? Because it doesn't seem like it is

[bronze matrix]

that big carnivore fish talk reminds me of that one fish from the king kong movie

[ancient kestrel]

No. Ofc fish plyable will be silly. At least until mods and more aquatic-focused maps will become a thing

[foggy field]

Fish would only work in a aquatic map, with marine reptiles, sharks

[normal shuttle]

Deinosuchus
Good water movement ✅
Can go to basically any body of water ✅
Can ambush unsuspecting prey ✅
Said prey can be 4 tons or below normally ✅
Can defend itself in land ✅
Stands a chance against other crocs and most other semi aquatics ✅
Can actually hide in land if needed when there is no escape in a secluded water area ✅

Fish
Good water movement ✅
Can go to basically any body of water ❌
Can ambush unsuspecting prey ✅
Said prey can be 4 tons or below normally ❌
Can defend itself in land ❌
Stands a chance against crocs and most other semi aquatics ❌
Can go into land if needed to hide if there’s something more or equally capable in the water ❌

[foggy field]

Xiphactinus would be cool

[normal shuttle]

Imagine a damn fish flopping its way UPHILL from water access to highlands lake

[frank tapir]

Deinosuchus
Fish ❌

Fish
Fish ✅

[normal shuttle]

Good at being bad in the isle 🔥 🔥

[bronze matrix]

play "eye of the tiger" while the fish is doing it
and you get a inspirational story of perseverance

good messaging

[frank tapir]

#general-feedback message @quaint yarrow it'll be in the next major update, if not sooner

[quaint yarrow]

Omg sweet!!! Thank you! I must of missed that

[normal shuttle]

In case it doesn’t dehydrate sprinting on land at 3kph and spending 20 minutes going from south pond to the south plains without a bary just walking up to it and finishing it off

Also fish don’t have the same organs so you would have to make new organs for that playable in particular

[bronze matrix]

nah it'd be the protagonist preferably played by silvester stalone

[normal shuttle]

We got fish will smith

Now fish silverster stallone

[bronze matrix]

it's a new franchise
like the MCU

[normal shuttle]

BRUH

DOWNVOTING AVA PLAYABLE ONLY

People need to feed their allos ig

@frank tapir

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-handshake-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-gif-22101046

[frank tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-jesse-pinkman-handshake-saul-goodman-gif-24344164

[normal shuttle]

Playables are cool!!!!

No need to turn them into glorified resources and stain their reputation like that

Ava can be amazing

[frank tapir]

I want my megalanias to eat the good stuff, not ai crap

[normal shuttle]

I want my herbivores and omnivores to not be relegated to trash tier feeders for bad players farming their allos and apexes

@gentle rampart why even copy JP further

We had enough with some rex calls and omni

[thick summit]

Simply, no.

[normal shuttle]

Although luckily rex is getting paleo calls (the only ones I’m ever you gonna use)

[thick summit]

I like rexes calls in the isle

[woeful latch]

the iceland

[thick summit]

They sound like a better and polished JW/JP roar

[normal shuttle]

I don’t want more JP stuff in the game really

[gentle rampart]

good thing they’re splitting it, so maybe your opinion doesn’t matter and doesn’t warrant you pinging me in dc? if you have multiple hate hashtags in your nickname then i don’t think you’re serious

[normal shuttle]

I want the isle to be that, the isle

[normal shuttle]

I am serious and I wanted you to read my discussion on your feedback. I am serious, curious in fact

Why should we lean further into taking after another IP when original isle things succeed

That’s the question

[gentle rampart]

they are splitting the calls, if they want more theatrical calls to be wanted for the paleo inaccurate set then why not go with something that people like?

[normal shuttle]

But…inaccurate doesn’t have to be necessarily taking after the inaccurate calls of a certain ip

[gentle rampart]

you don’t think that the jw injured rex sound would be a good addition to the inaccurate set? if you have a personal taste for paleo accuracy then why are you voting or commentating on something you won’t be using when its purely cosmetic.

people can post whatever sounds they like and if it’s for something i won’t be using guess what im gonna do? not vote on it be it’s not directed towards me. thats just toxic and unwarranted hatefulness tbh

[woeful latch]

yeah. i hate jp

[normal shuttle]

Because I also don’t think it’s that good for the fictional calls

And that the one we had in legacy worked perfectly

[woeful latch]

first movie was cool, but the rest and especially jw is just such garbage

[limber hull]

Nah me me roar loud monkey brain

[gentle rampart]

i would assume the legacy calls would be closely related to the evrima paleo calls, i’m speaking on the fictional set

[normal shuttle]

Neuron activation

[normal shuttle]

Not really. Legacy calls were heavily JPfied

Especially 1 and 3 calls. But 2 and 4 were good

[limber hull]

unironically tho i'm picking whatever call makes my neurons fire more idc about paleo accuracy

[normal shuttle]

And progression ones were…decent imo

Completely original

[gentle rampart]

eh, i’m just putting an idea out that i like. if i get flamed then i get flamed

[normal shuttle]

It’s not even getting flamed

Just getting a disagreement from one inconsequential member

My words have no authority

[gentle rampart]

ratioed would have fit better, i misspoke. my bad

[grave iris]

yknow ive been reading alot of the feedback channels and im sure 99% of it isnt being read or even if read isnt taken into consideration

its just a place to let people in the community dream

[bronze matrix]

for me personally it's a creative outlet and i love the discussions
but I suffer under no delusions that anything I write will be read or even considered by the devs

[grave iris]

yea exactly its just a place for people to dream on

[ancient kestrel]

I still not get how being both AI and playable will harm avas reputation. I only will be mad if they don't make it playable

If anything such duality of ava will cause paranoia for carni players

[ancient kestrel]

What are those paleo calls?

[lilac bolt]

some are read yeah not all though there are too many for that

[ancient kestrel]

I hope they will keep funny juvie rex sounds from legacy

[normal shuttle]

Accurate Rex calls

Presumably like those vids you can find on YouTube or how an alligator vibrates its throat

[ancient kestrel]

But why? Game really don't focus on paleo-accuracy

It is especially odd to see after your quad carchar proposal

[woeful latch]

lmao

tbf paleo accurate is so much better, it doesn’t really suit evrima rex as the main calls, but i don’t see an issue adding those as additional ones

i’d give anything for evrima rex to be at least somewhat paleo accurate looking, i hate its jaw i think it looks ugly

same with carno, can’t even look at it

[ancient kestrel]

What the deal with carno?

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/dinosaur-baby-gif-18747292

it’s not THAT noticeable on carno, but rex is just… honestly looks very goofy

tho jaw like that really suits cera, it looks badass

[ancient kestrel]

I mean carno have short jaws. It doesn't look bad on him

[woeful latch]

i still don’t like it, it’s not as bad as rex but still annoying

i’d prefer something like this, with the teeth being hidden

but it’s not my game, i can only wait for modding and someone to “fix” this

[urban flax]

make your own game

[woeful latch]

not to mention some people actually prefer that JP look and i can’t judge them

[ancient kestrel]

He looking with judging glance

[woeful latch]

carnosaurus grrrr

[ancient kestrel]

I think Isles carno way too iconic to change its jaw

[woeful latch]

same with the rex, but doesn’t change the fact that it looks goofy and i PERSONALLY don’t like it

[ancient kestrel]

It nakes look carno like pitbul of some sort (or buldog may be)

[ancient kestrel]

Btw carno looks like that when skull fracture

[woeful latch]

yeah as i said some people find that good-looking, it’s not a big deal anyway, especially with the modding being added at some point

[woeful latch]

LMAO

i wonder how rex will look like with the head fracture

[ancient kestrel]

It's overtuned here tho

[woeful latch]

👹👹👹

[ancient kestrel]

I woner how much pachys headbutts needed to break T-rexes head

[woeful latch]

they won’t be able to, they can’t break anything heavier than 2 tons as far as i know

[ancient kestrel]

Cera also have its teeth visible with closed mouth

[ancient kestrel]

Hm... May be anky closer than we think...

[normal shuttle]

Because rex paleo calls are amazing

[woeful latch]

i’m pretty sure even hypsi has those animations and stuff, those are made for the future, doesn’t mean anky is coming

[ancient kestrel]

I am just kidding. However talking about rexes and carnos jaws - pretty sure that someone will make paleo-accurate redisigns when mods will be a thing

[woeful latch]

hopefully

[ancient kestrel]

Anyway why you don't have same issue with cerato?

[woeful latch]

as i said before i just think it suits cera and doesn’t make it goofy like rex

[ancient kestrel]

Is that because it fits edgy design of this creature?

[woeful latch]

i wouldn’t call it edgy but yeah perhaps

but mostly because it just doesn’t look goofy

[urban flax]

this is the same thing as this 🤓

[woeful latch]

like THIS looks… questionable

cera looks at least decent

[normal shuttle]

rex overbite looks so cool and outdated

I love it

[ancient kestrel]

"Edgy" might be not right word but you understand what I mean. It have head crests and spikes across the vertebra which makes it look aggressive and intimidating

[woeful latch]

brother, don’t do this to me, i had to google what vertebra is 😭

but yeah i know what you mean

[ancient kestrel]

He is just 🤓

[ancient kestrel]

Funny. I am not even native to English but know this word
mostly because I watch paleo docs and some paleo-content elsewhere

[woeful latch]

valid.

[foggy field]

packy cant fracture animals larger tem 3 tons

[ancient kestrel]

At least most other upcoming carnis not going to have that prominent overbites

Acro even shown on its concepts with teeth fully covered by lips

[barren crater]

Seeing my cera image 2 years later 😭

[ancient kestrel]

It's yours?

[barren crater]

Yeah

It’s a thumbnail for a vid lol. I’ve seen it around a few times

[woeful latch]

yeah acro is so handsome, i love it

[normal shuttle]

also giga, right?

or am I tripping?

[ancient kestrel]

Yes. Probably

[normal shuttle]

yeah it does

just checked

[undone pewter]

uppercut from a trike, no doubt

[olive bolt]

#general-feedback message

[urban flax]

Torvosaurus (allo clone niche)

[olive bolt]

Better than allo 😒

[normal shuttle]

the justification of adding it and making it similar to allo because they existed in a similar time frame and place is hilarious

[urban flax]

The bar is very low

[normal shuttle]

excellent take

[olive bolt]

It has a lot of the same adaptations as allo :/

Its just better overall

[normal shuttle]

make it different then

[olive bolt]

Oh yes let me go back 150million years and configure the genetics of torvo and allo

[normal shuttle]

making a evrima dino can cost over 10k dollars

[olive bolt]

Yeah true

[urban flax]

That's where fictionalization comes into play

[normal shuttle]

we didnt need to verify whether beipi was a penguin or not.

[urban flax]

There is zero accurate to life dino in this game

[olive bolt]

Its just the base idea, why would i make the idea on a completely fictionalizex version of it?

[olive bolt]

True penguins are extinct :p

[urban flax]

Because that would give a reason to add it over suggesting an allo clone

[sly haven]

@foggy field We already have Allosaurus, Albertosaurus, Ceratosaurus ( in game already), Sucho, etc. planned as mid-tier carnivores. (acro too if we are talking sub-apexes). I just don't see what Torvosaurus would add to the game, especially since it has essentially the same size and attributes as Allosaurus, which by the way also has grappling abilities planned. I hate to break this to you, but just because you have a fixation on Torvosaurus and think it's a cool dinosaur doesn't mean we need it in the game.

[normal shuttle]

that has nothing to do with what I just said

[olive bolt]

Closer to an alberto clone than allo, just the same size as allo

[olive bolt]

What you said made zero sense 😋

[foggy field]

Tbh, if i was to add torvo i would make a very diferent sugestion, i would make torvo nocturnal

[urban flax]

Can pin just like allo
Can chat with allos
That's literally my april's fools cuckoo tarbo niche

[normal shuttle]

DUDE 😭

[foggy field]

Tawbosaurus

[normal shuttle]

tarbo was better

[olive bolt]

Why add allo, raptor can already pin
And 2nd one was just bc they were believed to have a symbiotic relationship

[urban flax]

Who the hell believes allo and tarbo had a symbiotic relationship ?

[sly haven]

Ehhh, allo but better NV doesnt really justify it. Roster bloat isn't good for the game.

[foggy field]

Torvo could POSSIBLY only work in my opnion in this game at its edmarka rex size 4.5-5tons and being a nocturnal predador, with highly diferent skills from allo

[olive bolt]

People who research em

[urban flax]

Also allo and omni at least have a massive size difference to differentiate them

[foggy field]

I would not give torvo grapple

[olive bolt]

Make torvo 12 tons

Size fixed

[normal shuttle]

what symbiosis?

Also allo is 6 times heavier than omni so there is a significant difference

[urban flax]

I mean, based on what evidence ?
It's hard enough for paleontologists to be sure trike and rex did fight, what is there to make them believe two apex predators had a symbiotic relationship

[olive bolt]

Allo and torvo....

[normal shuttle]

isn't torvo like 4-4.5?

[sly haven]

Dude torvo is not happening...

[olive bolt]

Skull adaptations ideal for eating different parts of a dino
Lack of predation marks found on skeletons from each other

[normal shuttle]

bait used to be funny AND believable

[urban flax]

That's all ??

[olive bolt]

Thats all we have left of em :/

[sly haven]

I would argue that even making allo and alberto different may be a challenge, another dinosaur with the same weight class and nothing special is pushing it

[olive bolt]

Yeah fair

[foggy field]

Edmarka rex torvo is close to 5

The main issue with torvo is not even allo, is making it diferent from alberto.

[olive bolt]

And specialized in eating game larger than itself....

[normal shuttle]

lack of predation marks on what is literally less than 0.01% of all specimens to have ever lived is such defunct argumentation also because eaten corpses normally don't fossilize, they are exposed and decompose

[urban flax]

Or eaten corpses get... you know... eaten...

[olive bolt]

Do believe that is a well known fact

[normal shuttle]

yeah what I kinda said. Even if something is left and isn't scattered it will just decompose anyway

[normal shuttle]

yeah it can be factual that there's no bite marks on the 3 fragmentary bones of torvo we have, but it is a dumb thing to say not only they did not eat each other, but also were buddies

[normal shuttle]

also just an upscaled allo

glorified elder allo unironically

[foggy field]

More like Alberto, since torvo was also know for its very strong bite, the strongest of its period

[normal shuttle]

but ability wise this stinks like glorified allo. Talking mostly about the feedback

[olive bolt]

Torvo wouldnt have been the one hunted 😭

[normal shuttle]

okay, and we have a minuscule amount of allosaurus specimens too

it is baffling to say they did not kill each other or that they formed some weird alliance only because 20 allo specimens out of the potential hundreds of millions that existed have no bite marks

"I found these skeletons from 40 cavemen and none of them have spear or arrow marks on their bones, that must mean they not only didn't fight each other but also they coexisted peacefully and teamed up!"

[olive bolt]

https://antediluviansalad.blogspot.com/2015/08/allosaurus-more-of-vulture-than-falcon.html?m=1

[normal shuttle]

2015 lol

[olive bolt]

Nash duane, hes generally regarded as being decently credible as his theories usually are from him doing hundreds of hours of research into a topic

[normal shuttle]

and a random blog instead of an academic article

[olive bolt]

Not that long ago but aight

[normal shuttle]

in 2015 the scientific community believed spinosaurus was mostly a quadrupedal theropod with a standard looking tail

[olive bolt]

Ok???? Theres still very little research into allo and torvo especially compared to spino

[normal shuttle]

there is A LOT of research on allosaurus

and I mentined that because paleontology changes so fast that even articles 3 years ago can be outdated

let alone a decade old one

like you know

you could have at least fictionalized it like Owl did to create an amazing idea for carcharodontosaurus

instead of Allo number 2

there is zero need to be accurate

@iron relic evrima is still in development and getting new playables + they are harder to develop when they have more than the model, animations and one attack

[olive bolt]

If it bothers you that much i can fictionalize it later 💀

[fickle cave]

#general-feedback message @sharp bronze ayyyy a fellow Quetz lover! I'm super excited for it too! My fav irl dino

[normal shuttle]

it doesn't bother me personally

But I know devs don't wanna spend months working on something that they have done before

so if you want to be heard, you should try to use something unique

*more likely to be heard by them

[olive bolt]

Alr I'll edit it later but its role as a sauropod hunter is still pretty unique among its size

[normal shuttle]

Allo and Giga...

And honestly I would rather propose something about torvo rather than the things it focuses on, since y'know, we're only getting cama afaik

[olive bolt]

Allo isnt a sauropod hunter bro 😭

And giga is far larger

[normal shuttle]

very much will be as a mid tier big game hunter

good allo groups defo taking on a cama

[olive bolt]

Really doubt that

[normal shuttle]

Cama is gonna be like 18 tons. Perfectly doable with like 4 allos if they're pouncers and bleeders

[olive bolt]

Still dont see it

[normal shuttle]

and as I said, an idea shouldn't focus on just capitalizing on a single matchup.

And well, we have enough big game hunters that go for tanks already

calling giga a sauropod or shant hunter doesn't sound appealing because it also needs to be its own thing

not the scissors to the paper

[olive bolt]

Everything on roster already fills every niche possible. With how the game doesn't focus on one place one timeperiod you're always gonna have overlapping niches

[normal shuttle]

not really, no

[olive bolt]

Name a niche that isnt gonna be filled when roster is complete

Or describe one

[normal shuttle]

Look at what people suggested for Carch about making it a quadrupedal apex carnivore

Not only it would have an outstanding look and feel but also having an extra pair of limbs to move could make it proficient in the water in a way similar to polar bears or jaguars that quietly use the water as an approach tool to lurk on something (instead of striking from the water, more like going to the same shore quietly) and also limited climbing and vaulting which would definitely be very unique for an apex despite maybe overlapping just a little with herra despite being 35 times heavier

you can be imaginative

and things are allowed to be very fictional

[olive bolt]

Alright, i still like the idea of torvo being a sauropod/medium to large herb hunter but I'll make it more unique rathering than being an allo alberto mix

Since thats what niche it would play rn

[normal shuttle]

okay

make it stand out then

[normal shuttle]

I could also think of taco as a porcupine

[olive bolt]

Would be pretty cool if they do that for taco

[bronze matrix]

isn't kentro kinda like a porcupine already?

[olive bolt]

Kentro is nothing like taco

[bronze matrix]

yea but the sort of "you get damaged when you attack me" niche is already in with kentro

or not already

but planned

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message LMAOOOO

I've come a long way since then

[bronze matrix]

lol

[normal shuttle]

fat shield lmfao

[bronze matrix]

walrus niche

weaponize the blubber

[normal shuttle]

Average American Citizen niche

[olive bolt]

Lmao

[strange wave]

man just when i thought we were past boldly redundant roster bloat suggestions

and removing my king ceratosaurus' ability to scavenger in favor of allo

https://tenor.com/view/no-shake-my-head-golden-girls-smh-oh-man-gif-24993306

[olive bolt]

Im redoing the torvo suggestion anyways, completely scrapping a majority of what i said lol

[strange wave]

good

[normal shuttle]

Cera can’t catch a break

[urban flax]

It doesn't need to with its stamina efficiency

[normal shuttle]

Real

[foggy field]

Cera needs to keep being the rot wagon that it is

[jagged willow]

seeing a streamer pack up with 15 of his followers nah. nope. kos

[normal shuttle]

Facts

[grave iris]

cera needs to become extinct

[supple spoke]

real

[normal shuttle]

Cera needs that charged bite to be toned down and turned into something that doesn’t allow it to be ceratorex

[supple spoke]

trruuuee

[grave iris]

cera is just an unfun experience for everyone but the cera, you cant trade bites with it, it can literally just run in to 3rd party and bite someone once and thats it, oh and if the cera runs away mid fight bec its low,, you still lose bec now you have no hunger/water

[fickle cave]

If they cut speed to 50% when doing a charge bite, it could be the defense ability it was meant to be

[grave iris]

cera also entertains the gremlin playstyle like a trood but this time without all the downsides of a trood

[supple spoke]

i think they just need to remove ceras mouth and give it a proboscis tbh

[grave iris]

but instead you are a semi tanky carni that can just do wahtever it wants pretty much

[supple spoke]

in all seriousness tho some variation of this needs to happen. right now charge bite just gets spammed until they land it

[normal shuttle]

Bile is very destructive but tbh it is something that it needs in order to pull the necessary weight and also being a deterrent

Only big problems are:

charged bite giving it a completely free attack that hits on a headshot as hard as a deino body shot (needs nerf)

The biggest and baddest land carnivore also being the easiest to grow by inherent design (doesn’t need nerf, will be solved organically with rex and allo)

[grave iris]

i just the like the concept of the "i landed a single bite, now you are going to die of starvation/thirst"

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message @urban flax I was curious after that funny fish proposal in this chat and I decided to see if someone else had done what I feared, and sadly it did happen although it does look like bait

Suggesting a fresh water megalodon. I’m crying.

#general-feedback message

Man I miss the days with free reactions

Why did they remove that??? It was hilarious

[urban flax]

If only that was the worst thing people suggested here

[urban flax]

I think the answer lies within the question

[normal shuttle]

Oh I see

Well, I guess we all gotta pay for the deeds of a few

[normal shuttle]

What’s the worst you’ve ever seen?

[urban flax]

In terms of playables ? Hmmm let me think

[normal shuttle]

How can it be worse than a meg in fresh water and presumably spiro??

Just imagine that thing trying to sneak up on something and having its body always visible

And living off elite fish and clueless deinos that somehow didn’t see it coming

[urban flax]

I think I've seen something like a 2 ton haast eagle who carries things up to 2x its size in the sky and drops them to their death

[normal shuttle]

WHAT

I need to find it

[urban flax]

I just tried to, but couldn't find it

[normal shuttle]

8 times heavier than a Quetz and snatching allos. Absolute cinema

[urban flax]

Not sure it was that much however, it was long ago

[normal shuttle]

Sure it wasn’t argentavis?

[urban flax]

Maybe ?

Not quite as bad, but I also remember the famous "add purrusaurus" to add competition for deino
And the person was basically purrusaurus should be the exact same as deino but with slightly better stats so it can cull the deino overpopulation

[normal shuttle]

Found nothing about it

But it is laughable

[normal shuttle]

And then what culls puru overpopulation

Genius idea. Truly a foolproof idea

[urban flax]

They left the conversation after being asked that

[normal shuttle]

Lmaooo

Hold on lemme browse to see if I find something else that is baffling

[urban flax]

But worst suggestion I've ever seen, all categories ?

That's hard to say, as I tend to wipe horrible memories from my brain

But I think immersive human mating system and pregnancy with morning sickness gets a place up there

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message elite fish gameplay, so peak

[normal shuttle]

WHAT?????? WHAT????

(😭)

[urban flax]

Present of a legend named Class, not on this server anymore

[junior ether]

Can we make spino sound like this please? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgLmuFwsrDA

[urban flax]

meh

[normal shuttle]

Not necessary especially when we got deino and Rex potentially for the cool bellowing

[normal shuttle]

That is wicked

[little lake]

make it hiss like a swan/j

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message these type of suggestions make me unable to breathe due to the laughter

Human growth

[little lake]

just make them 3 foot tall adults/j

[normal shuttle]

My chest it hurts after scrolling through so many potentially troll takes that got bombarded by emotes

[urban flax]

I feel like people don't understand the implications of human growth in this game

[normal shuttle]

Human nesting

[normal shuttle]

They assume everything just starts at juvenile

Imagine some random ass child surviving in the jungles of the isle

[urban flax]

Imagine having to watch as some random-ass child fails at surviving and gets their guts opened and eaten by a bunch of troodons

I'm not the kind of person who gets affected much by videogame gore, but that's on another level

[normal shuttle]

Oh well

Yeah that would be mental

[normal shuttle]

The sheer volume of juvenile humans laying around after suffering horrendous fates oh my god😭 😭 😭

[little lake]

random child hanging on the thagomiser of an angry stegosaurus

[normal shuttle]

Okay yeah that is mental

That would be horrible for the game

#general-feedback message this is hysterical despite being not that absolutely terrible

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback message

[urban flax]

Reminds me of the "wolves AI to threaten herbivores"
Some dude thinking a wolf pack would be a match against a maia

Or mentioned "imagine epic fights between a wolf pack and omni pack"

[normal shuttle]

I saw that

Hilarious. Non venomous creatures without a pounce and hardly larger than a troodon somehow threatening dibbles and maias

[untold wharf]

Mixpaxking in my mind is defined as the following:

Any assembling of carnivore & herbivore, or carnivore & carnivore species that benefit from each other’s presence.

• A large carnivore protecting a dryo while it drinks
• Diabloceratops killing the tenontosaurus that Utah raptors are actively targeting
• Multiple carnivores and herbivores serenely sharing a watering hole without showing aggression to one other
• Mass herbivore & carnivore packs traveling servers in a large grouping to exterminate anything that moves

What is NOT mixpacking is defined as:

• A grouping of herbivores of multiple species moving as a herd, regardless of the accurate historical timeline of they existed in the same period of not.

[olive bolt]

Creatures do this irl :p

For the carnivores working together part

And some herbivores benefit from carnivores being around irl too

[normal shuttle]

and this is not real life

and sucks to see scrubs being saved by their non grouped buddies

[olive bolt]

Its a hardcore survival game :p if you make it easier to survive by having a friend then ppl are gonna do that

[normal shuttle]

ik

[olive bolt]

While this is true ppl arent gonna avoid other species like they have the flu just bc mixpacking bad

[normal shuttle]

still cringe

[olive bolt]

And ppl do it as a genuine strat bc it does make surviving easier, just like animals irl do....

[normal shuttle]

honestly I still think herbivores herding together is just as scummy as carnivores cuddling

[olive bolt]

50/50

[normal shuttle]

I never liked how it is more socially accepted

[olive bolt]

I still see herbivores as mixpacking

And dont see how its so much different that a cerato and carno mixpack to hunt a herb than herbs mixpacking to make it so carnivores cant attack em

[gritty heart]

I don’t know why people think of creatures that aren’t looking to munch on each other differently

Ofc, not all herbis like others (hippo *******), and some carnis can coexist, but it’s considerably less common.

[normal shuttle]

yeah I am a herbi fan and I don't like it when I see stegos, dibbles and tenos all together protecting some random sub or juvi I was fighting ||as galli||

[gritty heart]

Badger and coyote is probably the carnivore team up I think of first, covering major weaknesses, but even then it’s not a super common thing.

With herbis it also depends on food, so if you eat the same thing you are less likely to like each other

[normal shuttle]

it is funny to me because at least carnivores actively help each other when they do stuff like this

herbivores literally don't

there is not a single herbivore-herbivore helpful/symbiotic relationship I can think of in the entire animal kingdom

which cannot be said about animals that are carnivores or omnivores with a significant part of their diet consisting of meat

crows and wolves, badgers and coyotes, dogs and humans, baboons and dogs again, orcas and humans, that bird whose name I forgot and nile crocodiles...

herbis just tolerate each other and that quickly changes if they see themselves hindered in the slighest

[gritty heart]

Giraffes, but they basically cheat by helping everyone (however, Iirc it’s zebras who actually stick close to giraffes. Zebras seem especially prone to living with other herbivores).

Generally just having a big group is an advantage, but in isle terms that is more an issue of overpacking. Herbivores in the isle are also all hippo brained

[vestal vapor]

Wish we had hippo's lol

[gritty heart]

Beipis think they are hippos

[foggy field]

trike is basicly that

[vestal vapor]

So they spend all their time in the water?

I want a water based herbie

[icy lion]

minmi

[foggy field]

Cherry is not a herb, but i guess it has the temperament of a hippo

[normal shuttle]

^ and to be fair despite not being a strict herbi, cheirus can be very much that too

[vestal vapor]

Maybe we'll get Mosasaur...

[normal shuttle]

never

that would be dumb in current isle without a game and map catering to aquatics

[frigid mesa]

Maybe not a game but either both just a map that’s only fully aquatics or a map that that caters for both fully aquatic and terrestrial

[frigid mesa]

Which one there’s multiple different species that they can put in the game

[gritty heart]

Generally mosasaurus is talking about hoff

The other mosies tend to be referred to with other names

[tardy talon]

they wont add mosasaurus.

[supple spoke]

#general-feedback message

hitboxes are busted on most playables tbf.

its especially bad on dibbles everything, carno charge, stego tail swing (width is fine, but it hits pretty far past stegos face), and maia kicks.

teno has the most accurate hitboxes in my experience. i never have many (if any) wtf moments when fighting tenos.

that being said, ptera’s bite distance could be mostly desync issues considering how fast the thing is moving all the time, but i dont have a whole bunch of experience with them tbh.

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message

yeah, the control swap has to be the most annoying thing about beipi

[past crystal]

i wonder if it has to do with alt attacks?

[frigid mesa]

Some concept art either have it or another fully aquatic swimming around in a tank

[frigid mesa]

So the big boy?

[gritty heart]

Yeah

[frigid mesa]

If that were to be added it would share the apex trio for open ocean with megalodon and predator x

But it’s playstyle is an issue

[lilac bolt]

@hardy schooner who told you or what did you find for battleye to be better then easy anti cheat? everything that i can find says that they both have a lot of the same issues in terms of protection against hacks

[gritty heart]

Finally, “it came to me in a dream”

[limber hull]

now here's the thng about human growth

gen 1 MIGHT need it, unironically. Gen 1, for reference, will likely be

• Over 100kg
• Notably faster than a regular human
• Have incredible endurance (being a human)
• Can climb
• Spawns capable of some level of competent melee combat

All this combined makes it spawn IMMEDIATELY as a stronger alternative to some ADULT playables, which is rather worrying. Unironically, part of me feels gen 1 would need to grow

[gritty heart]

Tbh I don’t consider g1 properly human

[limber hull]

they're still classified as humans

and will likely share several human traits

[gritty heart]

I mean in terms of being disturbing to see them killed. I personally wouldn’t feel anything seeing one mauled.

[frank tapir]

I hope they do, gen 1 families would be great

[thick summit]

@ocean coral We've literally only one Carno specimen

[limber hull]

oh yea true

[ocean coral]

Sub species and specimen are not the same

I didn't mean subspecies since theres only 1

[thick summit]

I am aware

But there's literally only one Carnotaurus specimen

[ocean coral]

There is multiple but only one being nearly complete holotype.

I get what you're tryna say

There IS multiple carnotaurus specimen but there are very few of them

[thick summit]

Just look it up

We found only one but that specimen was very complete

[urban flax]

Maybe instead of growing, they could progress by mutating further and further ? They spawn fairly similar in terms of capabilities to a gen2 human, then evolve into something stronger and more dangerous

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message It just got fixed in the recent hotxes, it was broken before

[woeful latch]

both dilo clones and nv are still fundamentally broken

dilo clones in a way of being op, cheesy and lame

and night vision has some crazy lighting issues

[frank tapir]

(and they're invisible sometimes)

[woeful latch]

oh..

wild

[normal shuttle]

@valid oracle stamina efficiency would still affect combat significantly

[normal shuttle]

I had been thinking about it and yeah it would be interesting. Also if imo lore wise if you are going to do a weapon that you just drop somewhere, it is far more dangerous if it can just reproduce freely once it has infiltrated the target’s location

[normal shuttle]

In fact, I did want to suggest something along those lines

Like some blend of human (with things such as rudimentary crafting) and dinosaur gameplay loops

And as I said, you could justify some life cycle by saying that it does make them better weapons, as you could drop one and have more in the matter of days or weeks and that’s far more advantageous

[urban flax]

If AE was smart they wouldn't use self-replicating weapons

[normal shuttle]

as long as there's a way to control them

And well, all companies like this in sci fi media make big mistakes

[urban flax]

But this is a stupid one
The chances of it backfiring are over 100%

[normal shuttle]

gugh

[urban flax]

"A way to control them" is literally incompatible with them being self-replicating

[normal shuttle]

something to just kill all of them once the job is done? That's mostly what I meant

or some way to guide them afterwards

[frank tapir]

Is AE a company or government run? If they're a company there'd also be financial reasons to make them unable to self-replicate, same as gmo crops

[limber hull]

gen 1 is the only creature actively used as a weapon, and the way they seem to do it appears very "hands off and let the monsters do their monster thing"

[limber hull]

they're a medicinal company

[urban flax]

Terminator
Horizon Zero Dawn
Grey Goo
Jurassic Park
Nekrons
Nier Automata

These are just a few examples off the top of my head
Which ones among them did not end terribly for their creators ?

[normal shuttle]

there's prolly something you can come up with to get rid of all the active ones

[urban flax]

Miss two and you achieved nothing

[normal shuttle]

hmmmm

yes...

right

well that's sad

[limber hull]

yea i'mma be honest, AE allowing a "self-replicating weapon they can't really control" to exist freely on their island would absolutely put them from "genius scientist" to "cave johnson" level

[urban flax]

"The group of Gen 1 we sent on the enemy facility has completed its task, but they're now heading towards the nearest settlement"
"Terminate them using the microchips we implanted in their brains"
"Done. What do we do about the rest ?"

Switch to a horde of 40 000 mutants running around killing people

[limber hull]

also when you have NEUROS that can EMP I would not rely on microchips

and the Echidna is a thing, aka the mother of cannibals, who would probably have some vested interest in keeping gen 1 alive

[urban flax]

ok
"Terminate them."
"She said no."
"Who said that ?"
"Um, the one who can control radio waves. By the way, she wants to talk to you, boss."

[limber hull]

genuinely allowing gen 1 to self-replicate would make me think AE deserves what they get lol

[normal shuttle]

Yeah you’re right

Well, what then? No sort of growth to them?

[frank tapir]

they could still need to grow, just without being able to breed. Or they could have a special way to reproduce that they would only be able to do on the island

[limber hull]

replicator would be that

[normal shuttle]

Gen 1 growth contextualized as in they just broke outside of a tube while still immature

The embryos spilled out

[normal shuttle]

@light mulch that’s not very nice to say

[light mulch]

I love this game bro. Dont get me wrong. But i speak the truth here. Spend 10 hours on a croc just to lose it to a hacking baby carno. You’ll feel the same way

[urban flax]

Did you report them ?

[supple spoke]

there would be financial reasonings either way. governments are just big businesses.

but yah, self replicating weapons is just begging for a xenomorph prometheus situation

[late plank]

did someone suggest human nesting again

[urban flax]

Not yet
It's up to you to do it

[late plank]

hell naw

[light mulch]

The admins here dont really care, as per fellow unfortunate players tell me. I’ll just post the evidence and move on to the next game. My report wont change a thing

[supple spoke]

nice pfp thats some aura

[urban flax]

So you didn't report them
There's nothing else to be said

[wooden agate]

@twilit monolith "completely remove the little effect the diet system already has on the game for carnivore" is what you just said actually

#general-feedback message

[light mulch]

There isnt even a thread explaining how or where I can go about reporting said hacker. There is so much to be said. Just won’t bother

[wooden agate]

no but this message is plastered on the pins in every evrima channel

[late plank]

haha ty

[supple spoke]

agreed but fr add dilo back to raptor diet, and i think its also missing from carno diet. maybe im missing something but i really dont see the reasoning behind those two

[wooden agate]

mostly just prep to remove most carnis from carni diets probably

[light mulch]

thanks tried to find this. Nonetheless, I was told by multiple players it wont change a thing. I’ll give it a shot but yeahh… whats gonna change

[wooden agate]

i do think carno just needs a better diet in general

[supple spoke]

interesting, is that really the plan?

[late plank]

small game hunter

[untold geyser]

small game hunter

[wooden agate]

you wont get an answer but they do infact look into every report. much else beyond that is usually not told to the members due to a) no one wants for the hackers to catch wind that admins are actively on the server looking into admin reports in that moment and b) it would get very time consuming very quickly

[wooden agate]

yah

carni diets are likely going to mainly consist of herbivores

obviously this doesnt mean much anyway since you can get perfect diet from any sizeable corpse due to organs

unless that also changes in the future

[desert arch]

The hacker gets banned and has to buy a new account for 20$

[wooden agate]

or 3$

[barren crater]

they're not paying 20 lol

[wooden agate]

because thats how hackers work 🎷

[desert arch]

Yeah ik

Regional pricing

[light mulch]

Yeah thats what im saying. Games not worth my time anymore if im gonna invest 8 hours of the game into a croc just to lose it to someone who booted the game 5 mins ago

[barren crater]

I mean even if you report 1 hacker, there will be a group the next day. Pretty endless

[desert arch]

At least the hacks themselves cost a ton of money, the most popular hack I know costs 60€ a month afaik

[light mulch]

Wish all your dinos all the luck If you wanna cry with me check out https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/401693816777867265 for the clip

[wooden agate]

i appreciate the work the devs do in terms of their anticheat, because when it does work, it works extremely well. remember when speed hackers functionally fell off the face of the earth in terms of this game? that was something done to their anticheat (their personal one, not just EAC)

the problem is... it takes time for these things to be developed. time the community either doesnt want to give or frankly, doesnt have. when a game like this is as focused around long stretches of time being rewarded, and having death = that time being lost, we dont have time to wait for 2-3 months while we wait on a patch that stops people from flying at mach 20, one shotting people, or sending them flying. EAC is not a sufficent net to catch what their personal anticheat does not.

battle eye i miss you

[signal wyvern]

why did they switch from battleye?

[light mulch]

well said

[normal shuttle]

Ive lost things that I was invested in to hackers, but the devs are already doing a lot to solve this, considering their last three updates were meant to battle cheaters. And honestly that is exactly what cheaters want: they hate the game and want people to quit it. Best you can do as a player is report them and keep playing

[wooden agate]

idk enough about their internal history to know if/when they even had battle eye

but at this point the game is screaming at us to switch the anticheat

EAC is working but its just not enough

[light mulch]

You are right, that is what the hackers want. But i would be clinically insane to press play on another croc after spending 8 hours on my day off just to have it end like this again 😂 If the devs dont want the hackers to “win” and push us normal players out. They need to fix their appeal system and actually do something about the loss of their characters when faced with hackers or exploits etc… especially when someone has a clip of it where you can clearly see its a hacker like I did. I know its 1,000 players dying to hackers every day and that can lead to alot more work. The alternative is you ignore it / let it happen and the players leave forever…like myself in a few minutes

[normal shuttle]

They are doing something

But right now the best we can do is to put up with it and keep playing

Luckily it is not like hackers are just everywhere and there’s ten of them per server

And you could also try playing other things besides deino really

[light mulch]

Listen man I respect you for pushing through hacker Bs and stuff but let’s be honest. Nothing is being done. I have a clip that happened less than an hour ago with clear signs of hacking. You just can’t sit there and say “They are doing something”. Like that’s just not true.

That being said the hackers won. I’m done with this game. Wish you all the best of luck out there hope you dont run into any hackers. 🫡 gl gamers

[barren crater]

Ran into one rn

[light mulch]

Not surprised. Remember to report! kekw

[normal shuttle]

#announcements message

#announcements message

it very much is true

HT hasn’t been touched in a while because the corresponding devs (those who know anything about anti cheats) are working on that and it has been said repeatedly

They are just not very vocal about it

Whether it works or not is up to discussion, but they are actually working on it

[past crystal]

exactly, not much is said so hackers have less info to go off of. if they're hacking in the game, they're likely watching any isle announcements to see if patches are made

[normal shuttle]

^

[past crystal]

it's definitely worked on, and there are server admins online that silently ban hackers from the game. as long as they're reported correctly, things are done

[light mulch]

Hope it works! Until then…their playerbase will continue to bleed. Like I said I love this game! Not enough to put up with hackers though. My mental fortitude is just not as strong as yours. I rather move on to the next game. Evrima has so much potential though. If they ever fix the hacker issue I would definitely reconsider. Until then.. 🫡

[past crystal]

fair fair

[normal shuttle]

Well then

Hope to see you back soon

[light mulch]

GL out there fellas

glorp out

[acoustic spruce]

@torn void giga had a giga chin irl

He was literally the giga chad of Dino’s

[inland yew]

@twilit monolith "Add everyone to all carnivore diets. It just makes sense. Carnivores shouldn't be this choosy."

No, I don't think that would be the solution. I mean, if we look at nature, then the diet depends on the effort-gain ratio of weight. I mean, imagine a fox chasing a lion, or a crocodile chasing a full-grown elephant. It simply doesn't make sense. Even if an animal dies of old age or something, it's not part of its natural diet. But I agree that the diets need to be revised, because the way they're currently structured, a lot of things just don't make sense.

[woeful latch]

well they’re definitely doing “something” but it’s obviously not enough to keep cheaters away

but tbf we only hear about the cheaters that got reported, there’s probably thousands of them getting banned without anyone knowing

[frank tapir]

is damage in evrima impacted by weight, like it was in legacy?

[limber hull]

nope

[frank tapir]

ok cool, thanks

[normal shuttle]

Hence why troo can still do damage to omnis and gallis

[normal shuttle]

[urban flax]

As I said
He downvotes good suggestions

See it as a brand of quality

[normal shuttle]

Well then

Even though it can hurt early on to guide the sheep

But I will take it with pride from the ultimate herbi hater

Unironically true because he targeted only mine recently

[lilac bolt]

it would be really nice if one day omnivores were actually omnivores but idk we'll see I guess.

[normal shuttle]

Ava just seems like the best candidate

Although Cheirus and Theri(?) could work too I guess

If Cheirus just ends up eating just fish I will be so upset

I need cherry swallowing juvenile deinos whole

[lilac bolt]

eh cherry doesn't really seem like something that would be an omnivore but that might just be me idk

[vestal vapor]

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[normal shuttle]

Would be cool to eat small crocs tho

[limber hull]

probably been blocked lol

[normal shuttle]

And by small I mean like below 300kg

Stuff about elite fish size of not a little larger even

Doable for a 9 ton giant duck