general-feedback-discussion

[normal shuttle]

Why would it be unfair? Glass cannons are a thing even now in game

[woven bane]

dilos get slowed down when pounced by an omni

[bleak kestrel]

Good example its herra

[normal shuttle]

Herra can one shot dilos and it is a rat next to them

Yeah because herra is the glass cannon rn

[bleak kestrel]

Not adult one i think..

[normal shuttle]

Alongside troodons being able to kill a pachy in like 5 purple stage pounces

[normal shuttle]

It can

That’s the cap for a one shot

[normal shuttle]

I know, but even then it wouldn’t really be possible either way

I can’t see why a living paper plane wouldn’t get pinned down by a polar bear sized predator jumping at it

[woven bane]

i don’t see an omni pinning this thing lol

[bleak kestrel]

Remeber pachy can still one shot em

[ancient kestrel]

Or make dilo venom work same way as it works for troo

Not the best idea tho

[normal shuttle]

Not even that far off in terms of volume considering that Quetz’s height is because of its extremely thin legs and then it appears bigger below the neck due to the membrane. Torso itself is quite small

[normal shuttle]

And quetz could still give serious trouble to an Omni or be able to fight back in land

Nothing is preventing the giant pterosaur from flying off if things get ugly anyway 😭

Or resting at places that are very much unreachable

[frank tapir]

I imagine being pinned would stop it from flying off

[woven bane]

just overall magnitude, hell quetz is shown picking up a galli in a concept art

[normal shuttle]

Okay

[normal shuttle]

Don’t get pinned then

[frank tapir]

"get ugly" shouldn't mean a single omni showing up

[normal shuttle]

Just like how herra can avoid getting pinned by being observant and sticking near vertical surfaces

[frank tapir]

I just don't see quetz being in the same class as omni and herra

[normal shuttle]

I didn’t really mean it. Considering that quetz might be able to hunt stuff like galli I can see it fending off a galli or omni

Things could get ugly if there’s two though

[normal shuttle]

In terms of weight, it is likely going to be more or less on the same category at best in the game

It can still move fast and hit hard though

But “sky apex” is going to be a title without much weight in it really

This thing is gonna get slammed by even a single pachy catching it off guard

I have no doubt

[woeful latch]

i don’t expect quetz getting pinned with just one omni, but it should get massively punished, because it got ambushed on land.

tho 2 omnis to pin quetz sounds good.

[normal shuttle]

Omni is likely gonna kill Quetz in one pounce anyway

[frank tapir]

omni dies too if the quetz takes off

[woeful latch]

good.

[woeful latch]

it shouldn’t be able to

[frank tapir]

it picks up a galli in its concept art

[normal shuttle]

Omni too heavy

[woeful latch]

concept arts don’t matter too much, many things change all the time. and does it really pick up galli?

[frank tapir]

yes

[woeful latch]

and are you sure it’s even fully grown

[frank tapir]

are we sure quetz isn't 600kg in it's concept art?

can't tell

[normal shuttle]

Either way, it’s gonna be hilarious when new people demand quetz buffs once it releases

Because it gets destroyed by a teno in land

[woeful latch]

i don’t expect quetz being able to fly while getting pounced by omni. it’s just not good for the balance.

[frank tapir]

it's not like they care about that now

[woeful latch]

imagine ambushing bird on land for it to just fly with you lmao

[normal shuttle]

They do bruh

[woeful latch]

got ambushed on land = die

[frank tapir]

it happens with ptera, it's amazing

[normal shuttle]

Don’t be emo

[normal shuttle]

Not grown troodons and fresh spawn omnis

[frank tapir]

getting hit with your weight -1 while sprinting and you just get slowed down

[frank tapir]

definitely used to

[normal shuttle]

What

Don’t cry

[frank tapir]

I'm just saying, they don't really care

I think you might be getting confused

[normal shuttle]

Because of your explanation

But devs do care about balance

[frank tapir]

I thought they meant the literal balance

[normal shuttle]

Oh

[woeful latch]

OH LMAO

[woven bane]

by an solo omni is eh

[woeful latch]

well name me at least one dino that can do anything to flying quetz

and i said with 2 omnis, not one

[desert arch]

If you think an omni is bad, imagine a quetz getting jumped by a herrera

[woven bane]

lol

[woeful latch]

lol, that would be sick

[desert arch]

Either dies on the spot, or bleeds out shortly after

[woeful latch]

quetz having terrible bleed resistance could also be an amazing way to balance it.

[desert arch]

💀 ❌

[woeful latch]

yes! make it suffer if it gets ambushed

there’s nothing that can krill it when it’s flying, so it should be relatively easy kill in land

[desert arch]

Being weak to bleed is unfun, just look at current carno.
Dies to a papercut ahh

[limber hull]

i mean just dont give it bleed resist lol

[woeful latch]

carno is a land predator, quetz sounds more like something that you can’t chase or engage with when it doesn’t want to

[limber hull]

carno is the only animal in the game with a weakness to bleed. everything else either just either has bleed resist or doesnt

[desert arch]

Its already gonna be under 1T for sure, so even just 1 good omni pounce or herrera jump will put it into danger territory

[limber hull]

and i think HT took away that weakness

[desert arch]

It did

[woeful latch]

didn’t they fix that in ht?

[desert arch]

Thankfully

[woeful latch]

oh nice

[limber hull]

anyway just dont give quetz bleed res

make it like, 250-500 kilos

done

[normal shuttle]

Yeah

Glass cannon. Doesn’t need to be tanky if it can fly

[woeful latch]

500 sounds not bad, idk about 250

[normal shuttle]

That’s too cheesy

300 maximum

[urban flax]

300 is too low
Quetz needs to be 301 kg

[normal shuttle]

300.5

Just so it can survive getting hit by something that does 300.499 damage

[woeful latch]

why would you say that? now potato will post “mmm cheesy” gif😭😭😭

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-mmm-cheesy-cheese-cheesy-gif-19257011

[woeful latch]

NOOOOOO

[normal shuttle]

We are working together

Plotting against you

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-eating-potato-kitty-asmr-gif-17215228159060317844

[bleak kestrel]

Is taco ai forever?

It will be actual Playable right

[normal shuttle]

Yes

[normal shuttle]

Sandbox moment

[bleak kestrel]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[normal shuttle]

How I feel after getting positive ratio right off the bat with my feedback (I voted myself)

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

cringe defeatist mindset

rather than deciding it won't work, think about how it could work

[normal shuttle]

@hidden pilot don’t you dare trying to interrupt my X farm

[hidden pilot]

Nah, environmental hazard boa goes hard

[normal shuttle]

Nah

[limber hull]

making it into an environmental hazard sounds megalame

make it a playable if anything

[hidden pilot]

Like an environmental hazard ai!!

[normal shuttle]

Just be a hater or hate on me

[normal shuttle]

I agree unironically

[hidden pilot]

It'd be such a boring playable tho

[limber hull]

why? that sounds like the lamest way to introduce it

[limber hull]

how?????

[woeful latch]

x farm lmao

[limber hull]

its a literal SNAKE

[normal shuttle]

Terrible take that might dethrone my borderline troll post

[limber hull]

it is interesting on the fact that it is a snake and nothing else remotely controls or plays like a snake

[woeful latch]

you know whats real x farm? my camera changes feedback, that was the real one

[hidden pilot]

Slow, long digestion and killing, extremely easy to avoid in most scenarios

[normal shuttle]

I love this server and I also try to provide good feedback every now and then like this one #general-feedback message

[hidden pilot]

If they could make it interesting, awesome, but im not sure how

[normal shuttle]

But this is funny too. Next suggestion is gonna be tarbosaurus

[woeful latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1342793629852237824/the_days_of_laughter_and_love_are_back.gif

[hidden pilot]

Tbf they coupd stretch some realism to make it faster or and more dangerous

[limber hull]

potential to be an aquatic/arboreal fusion, ENTIRELY unique gameplay and movement unlike ANYTHING in the game, actually provides a niche that isn't redone from another generic therapod

[hidden pilot]

I suppose

[normal shuttle]

Me when I said in balance feedback that ptera stam and its regen should be nerfed and quetz should need 9 minutes to regen a full bar:

[hidden pilot]

Idk, i like boa i just don't know if it can be done well

[woeful latch]

i legit agreed with ptera stam nerf lmao

[limber hull]

i reckon its like, the easiest animal to actually make engaging and have people want to play it

[normal shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1341981138188636170/pizza_carno.gif

[woeful latch]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-dog-silly-dog-propeller-hat-propeller-hat-dog-gif-4764495627579170054

[limber hull]

its a snake. people will wanna play it because nothing else is remotely like a snake in this game

[hidden pilot]

Hey, if done right, I am all for it

[normal shuttle]

I decided to downvote my own feedback

[hidden pilot]

We shall see how it plays out

[normal shuttle]

[limber hull]

@unreal ridge it doesnt

[subtle swan]

players not knowing what desync is once more.

[subtle swan]

wait til the find out that pythons will drop out of trees onto things and constrict them.

snakes are cool a f

they were like "you know what? who needs limbs? then became muscular tube monsters.

kinda need snakes if they add burrowing tbh that'd make it very interesting.

[woven bane]

#general-feedback message why…..?

[normal shuttle]

@cedar flax no. Just catch them off guard brother

ur bad if you need to gamble

[hidden pilot]

True

[cedar flax]

yea i wasnt sure if it was really a good idea but i thought kind of sounded realistic which i know the isle likes so decided to put anyway

[normal shuttle]

also the idea of a pachy ramming a large tree and knocking over a herra is laughable

[cedar flax]

yea i said small tree

[normal shuttle]

which like

[normal shuttle]

guh

what do you consider a small tree in this game

most are huge

most of the ones with collision

[cedar flax]

wait i will try to get picture

[hidden pilot]

Palms

[cedar flax]

me on the tree as fresh spawn

basically skinny trees is what i mean

[woven bane]

yes but for what purpose

pachy dosen’t need to be able to do that

[cedar flax]

was just idea

[gusty flax]

#general-feedback message skill issue

[woeful latch]

#general-feedback message this is how real skill issue looks like

[smoky remnant]

hey all, im stuck as a baby croc in a gap under a waterfall. my coords are -198,134.947 147,848.512

[wraith cedar]

how do i make a hacker report i got their name and all?

[pliant elm]

Dillo can only kill with his venom, he was made to hunt larger dinos and not turtles.

[normal shuttle]

rework venom

because that thing working in the hordetest is just way too much

extremely cheap and unfair

[pliant elm]

Obviously poison needs a rework. But what's the problem with adding it to the public branch for now and doing a rework on that same hordtest (They won't do that, you know)

And not to mention that there are at least 4 dinos that need rework.

[woeful latch]

because too op and broken

because no one wants to die from one bite

[pliant elm]

The old dilo venom, in which its clones could be destroyed with just one bite was fair to me, I don't know why they changed that

[gusty flax]

60 agree and 5 people disagree, i think it says something

even the best omni players agree that stam is a huge issue that needs to be fixed

[woeful latch]

exactly, a lot of skill issue

[gusty flax]

look at nickboay video

[woeful latch]

omni stam is not issue at all, i’m saying this as someone who plays omni

[woeful latch]

i don’t even know who that is

[gusty flax]

send me ur hours

[gusty flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMzUsnla00w

[pliant elm]

I agree with you. Carnotaurus, which should be something focused on speed and pursuit, spends more stam running than Cerato, Tenonto and Pachy, running the same distance and with the same stam cost.

[gusty flax]

really good omni player check out his feedback

[woeful latch]

i want to spoil this to you, i will watch it and say “skill issue” right after

[gusty flax]

send a screenshot of your hours

anyway

please give a good arguement on why stamina isnt a problem

[wraith cedar]

how do i make a hacker report?

i got his id, name and allat

[pliant elm]

Run for 2 minutes, but sit for 3-4 minutes to recover your stam. That doesn't seem fair to me at all.

[gusty flax]

i dont think there is one but i would do it in bug report

[gusty flax]

exactly, this shouldnt be the case with an "endurance" creature

[wraith cedar]

ok ty

[radiant nest]

Check pins in regional server channels

[woeful latch]

because omni is a pack hunter, dude wants stam free pounce which is ridiculous, skill issue.

any competent omni pack will have the stam to take down the prey.

and is there a dev saying omni is an endurance hunter and should have best stamina in the game?

[limber hull]

omni and troodon are respectively the animals with the highest stam pools, with troodon having the best stamina pool of any carnivore

[radiant nest]

Bug report form won’t work for that

[wraith cedar]

regional server chanels?

[radiant nest]

#evrima-eu #evrima-na etc

[wraith cedar]

ok

[gusty flax]

its less to do with pounce more to do with running

[pliant elm]

Troodon, which should have the best stam in the game as well as its regeneration, uses a lot of stam and recovers slower than most. I simply feel sorry for the game currently.

[woeful latch]

you do realize that omni got a lot of running stamina?

[pliant elm]

They make unnecessary nerfs, but they don't make the changes the community asks for.

[woeful latch]

and it’s also one of the fastest dinos

[gusty flax]

not true

[limber hull]

it has everything to do with pounce lol, otherwise no one would be complaining about it

[gusty flax]

bro did you even watch the video

[woeful latch]

i did, and he is having huge skill issues

[limber hull]

absolutely true. omni has the second highest stam pool of any carnivore

its a pounce thing

[radiant nest]

Omni does not have an issue with stam

[gusty flax]

pounce got nerfed and is in a respectable place, however when it needs to rest every 2 minutes after running is ridiculous

[limber hull]

otherwise we'd hear people complaining about dilo because dilo has less stam

we don't hear people complain about dilo tho because dilo doesn't have a pounce

[radiant nest]

People just don’t like the idea of playing the long game with it

[woeful latch]

why do you need to rest every 2 minutes?

people wanting omni stam buff just says how new to the game they are

[limber hull]

also frankly i just dont think nick understands game balance at all and has the power of youtuber to have people agree with him, even if his takes are utterly bizarre

[woeful latch]

exactly.

[radiant nest]

Or that Omni is just not their playstyle

[gusty flax]

time stamp 1:05 coming from a player with 5k hours and mostly omni experience

[normal shuttle]

appeal to popularity is a logical fallacy

[woeful latch]

you shouldn’t have any issues if you truly got 5k hours

[limber hull]

and you don't think that 5k hours with mostly omni would also indicate a level of bias?

[normal shuttle]

and I really dont care about nickboay ngl

[limber hull]

i dont take hours as a respectable metric of who's worth listening to tbh

someone can play a game for a year and still not know how game balance works

[gusty flax]

most good players dont even use pounce because its too punishing on stamina and they are unable to tail their opponents later

[limber hull]

because the ability to play a game and design a game are very seperate skillsets

[gusty flax]

thats how big of an issue stamina is

[gusty flax]

why

good logical reason but "nah dont care"

[woeful latch]

it also does a lot of damage/bleed, it’s not just wasting your stamina

[radiant nest]

That’s funny, I’ve never had an issue with using pounce. However, not opening with a long pounce is fine

[limber hull]

if you're planning to use a pounce to exhaustion and not have literally anyone follow up on the prey, then yea i guess you're giving up the hunt. it's a more indepth ability than something you just use because you can. that's why it can do up to 1000 damage in a single pounce

[gusty flax]

ye one pounce then half your stamina is gone and your opponent can run away from you

[limber hull]

if you're solo hunting, sure

[woeful latch]

and bleed out? also if you’re solo don’t expect to take down bigger prey easily

[limber hull]

good raptors rotate to ensure someone is tracking and has stam otherwise you just sit there like a doofus because you threw all your stam down the drain for early damage on a larger opponent

[gusty flax]

let me ask you a skill question what type of pounce do you usually use

[normal shuttle]

because most of his takes are clearly biased and pvp brained

5k hours of pvp and deathmatch wont give you the same view of the game as someone who goes pure survival

[radiant nest]

Depends on the target, it’s health, the environment, the amount of Omnis, etc

[normal shuttle]

let alone if you switch picks instead of playing mostly one or two

[limber hull]

you dont have the pleasure of actually talking to him in an actual conversation

he likes to personally insult anyone who doesn't agree with him lmao, has done so multiple times against me because i don't see eye to eye

[gusty flax]

ok its a 1 teno vs 2 omni

which pounce do you use

[radiant nest]

Essentially, if we can just blitz the target with damage, then damage pounce. If not, bleed typically

[limber hull]

use bleed if your problem is the prey running away. use damage if you just want it over with fast

[radiant nest]

What environment and health

[normal shuttle]

I've seen comments regrettably

Also his vid about maia combat where the maia was total ass because in no world would a single maia ever get soloed by an omni

[woeful latch]

both are effective, i’d do the damage. teno bleeds a lot more if its running so you can do bleed if you’re planning to chase it after

[latent olive]

didn’t he get muted in the end

[woeful latch]

in case of cera it’s always damage pounce

[limber hull]

yea but he's in another server i'm in and he hates me lol

[gusty flax]

maia is ass, maia is so easy to solo

they have huge window

[woeful latch]

exactly lol

[woeful latch]

i highly doubt you can easily 1v1 any competent maia lmaoo

but you can dream

[gusty flax]

wanna go at it

norden admin

[radiant nest]

A good Maia will crush a solo Omni. It’s just not easy to get good at PvP with Maia cause of its animations and attack cooldown

[woeful latch]

hm, no, i’m not maia player, but we can do teno vs omni

[gusty flax]

what region are you from

[woeful latch]

eu

[normal shuttle]

if maia is a sitting duck in the open like in his videos trying to "prove" it yes

but many of his videos dont account for real survival factors like non flat terrain, water or ambushes or disengaging to find a better fighting spot

I agree maia needs a buff but Nick's takes are so biased and not properly represented from what I've seen, and it's sad when many people take them as fact and absolutely something that would happen

[hidden mist]

Maia can solo an omni wdym lol...

[gusty flax]

teno is hit or miss cose of dsync im ngl

[woeful latch]

everything is hit or miss

[hidden mist]

It can 1v2 them too, 1v3 I doubt honestly with the end lag and overwhelming pounces.

[woeful latch]

people see afk maias dying to single dilo on youtube and think that’s how it works, they don’t realize how wild maia players can be

[gusty flax]

ye but creature like omni or troodons get it the worst cose you can have bad dsync its the punishment is one shot death

[woeful latch]

skill issue

[gusty flax]

ye dsync skill issue

[limber hull]

that does suck but nothing to do with stam lol

[woeful latch]

you were trying to 1v1 to prove something now you suddenly blaming desync

[gusty flax]

what

i switched topic

[woeful latch]

🤡

[gusty flax]

did i ever claim omni is easy creature to 1v1 everything

i said maia is easy

[woeful latch]

.

[normal shuttle]

and maia is only easy in nick's videos when it never tries to go anywhere but to the open and is just sitting there in quad stance

[gusty flax]

looks like you need english lessons

[normal shuttle]

stego is also easy if it remains static

[woeful latch]

looks like someone is little mad over the game

[normal shuttle]

same as dibbles who only alt attack instead of sliding

[gusty flax]

"looks like someone is little mad over the game"

[woeful latch]

yeah that’s literally you, i don’t know what you’re trying to prove here

[ancient kestrel]

@nova loom #general-feedback message current variant already intuitive enough for players to understand where north and where south

Idk what is more staightforwad then -^- North and -v- South

[wooden agate]

#general-feedback message in general, id hate this. but as a community server option, i dont see why not. just design it in a way thats not easily exploitable and cant be monetized by server owners

after seeing how it works in POT its not awful

[lucid mauve]

It sux, ppl come back running to revenge or some change and come back running as something else that will screw u

[normal shuttle]

@patent terrace so much more fun until you kill someone and while you're healing and bleeding they pull up with a full adult teno and they finish you off

as they know your exact location

it would be like people trying to take revenge by choosing a spawn and attacking as a juvi but much worse

[lucid mauve]

Even in pot where u cant spawn in the exact location, it still takes like 5 min to run to that area

[wooden agate]

i feel this would fall under the 'make it not easily exploitable' category. there could be timers on switching, there could be exclusion zones, diet restrictions, etc.

[lucid mauve]

They have that in pot, still very easy to exploit. Atleast if you have your dinos in one area ish

[wooden agate]

POT's map is also kinda small (and the animals have far better ways of moving around the map generally)

[lucid mauve]

Like the first rule in pot, if u kill something. Eat and run lol

[wooden agate]

idk i think theres a way to get it working, and if its a community server option then why not. they always say they want server owners to have absurd levels of control over their servers

[lucid mauve]

Yea, it can be used. I mean they sorta have that now on one of the isle server. You store them, and can respawn later

[woeful latch]

that’s server side feature, how that can be an issue? just don’t play on servers with that feature enabled if you don’t like it.

[wooden agate]

yeh, islander has something similar and so does petit pieds iirc.

they monetize heavily off of it though, which i think is kinda scummy. (or atleast islander does, idk about petit) its pretty lackluster in terms of restrictions but it doesnt lead to nearly as many problems as you'd think. with more organized restrictions that better fit the general feel and gameplay of the isle, it could work fine for servers who want to give their community a slightly less hardcore experience

[lucid mauve]

Yea, agree. I mean it would be fine if you spawned in random maybe. And not with friends, so you cant just pop up as adult rex and start fighting etc

And i think islander or was it petit you can only do it every 4 hrs or something

[fair jetty]

#general-feedback message @subtle swan Full grown deinosuchus shouldn't be relying on AI to survive, its an apex creature its supposed to be difficult to grow and sustain.

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message
@haughty cliff

Yeah, even in the day if it’s shaded it can be awful for deino, like in the north lake finding fish at the bottom stinks.

I can’t comment as to if it’s the same as beipi because beipi can never see at night anyways.

[wintry cipher]

Its the same. Beipi prob has worse underwater vision if i had to guess

[gritty heart]

If it’s dark beipi can’t see, nv or not. In the day the underwater vision is decent when not buggy (ie the random black boxes)

[meager yoke]

@nova loom There's already a compass when you smell, the upwards notch is north and the downward one is south

[pliant elm]

@tall hearth Why don't you agree to add dilo back into the carnotaurus' diet? Dillo is literally perfect to be on the carnotaurus diet xd

[dawn hound]

Yall can I get to know whats wrong with this? I want to hear yall's opinion #general-feedback message

[gritty heart]

If a fat system gets added I think it should be based on being basically completely full for awhile. So if you are living the high life maybe you get full (maybe also based on not moving much)

The real issue balance wise is that speed tends to be one of the most important balancing factors, so while I don’t think your suggestion would be a big issue there, I wouldn’t suspect that could explain some of the other Xs

[stuck imp]

I don't think we need another mechanic to completely ignore the hunger aspect of the game. Food is already very easy on the live branch.

[gritty heart]

It doesn’t really seem to do that too much since you need to eat the food amount in the first place (probably even more assuming it’s inefficient energy wise to gain fat).

[tall hearth]

it doesnt really need it. theres plenty of other things on its diet. its got organs, you can easily kill enough of them to get easy diets.

i know a big reason why people want it on there is cause there's a lot of dilos currently since they're venom is fixed on HT/soon to be fixed on live. the devs have also said they want to steer further away from carnivores having lots of other carnivores on their diets, so its good to start early.

eat dilo organs, supplement with ai, and you're golden

[dawn hound]

However, I dont want to eat as small tiers or anything every now and then. I want to enjoy some little time chiling, observing or anything, instead of constantly needing to munch like a cow.

[tall hearth]

or go after a wider variety of diets and eat other players also on your diet list who also have organs.

[dawn hound]

I highly believe many small tier players want to explore and overall enjoy the game, instead of having to eat so often.

[stuck imp]

small tiers are still a part of the game. they should be surviving like everything else.

[dawn hound]

of course, but not having their hunger drained every now and then. Its not like you occasionally see an animal that is larger than a dog eat so very often

[normal shuttle]

@dire bear funnily enough, it would be far more realistic to have less underwater vision, but players are given more since eyesight is way more friendly to stealth and hiding than senses that animals tend to use underwater

Just look at river dolphins and their eye size!!

[quartz meteor]

Well… I mean… you kinda are a cow lol

[dawn hound]

But seriously, i dont wanna eat all the time. Even though I know there is a ton of food, Id much rather preffer more scarse food and slower food drain.

[quartz meteor]

That’s the best part of being a herbi, at least for me lol… whenever I feel like just having a chill time, I just choose a herbie and munch all day

Oh you’re talking about small tiers?

[dawn hound]

yes

however i kinda believe hunger drain should be slower for anything basically

[quartz meteor]

Well I mean, At least there is grass everywhere

That you can just munch on

I feel the opposite… I feel like it needs to be faster… especially for Deino. Although I also understand why it’s slow… you’re pretty much always waiting for food. Well other than fish

But sometimes deinos food drain can be a pain to wait for

[dawn hound]

Yea, but i am talking about carnis. And even though you have ai everywhere as a carni, id rather have much less ai around me and much slower metabolism. The reason why i made a fat system suggestion is because animals can survive for days, weeks in some cases YEARS without food. However, at least an hour would be nice.

[quartz meteor]

I guess it wouldn’t be such a big deal if we were able to still gain nutrients from the food when you play playables like Deino or cera… when your stomach is full

But I just feel like being able to constantly eat without gaining any dietary benefit kinda defeats the purpose of being a garbage disposal

[dawn hound]

you can, at the cost of slightly emptying your stomach. Gastroliths.

[gritty heart]

And squids have big eyes.

River dolphins live in very muddy rivers, wag muddier than the isle (ironically, the swamp has some of the clearest vision outside of the sea in my experience, since vision darkness seems almost entirely depths based and non silt etc based).

vision in water should definitely be worse than in the air, but you could be in the clearest lake around in the isle and it’s just black (not murky)

[normal shuttle]

Squids are salt water animals from what I know

[gritty heart]

Even if we think vision should be roughly as obscured, I think it also just feels weird since it’s basically just like night time. Not murky

[quartz meteor]

Yeah… but gastros are not very time efficient

Drain to little in to long of a time

[dawn hound]

What do you mean by that?

[dawn hound]

oh

it isnt that long. If it was faster, you could probably accidentally make yourself not full

[gritty heart]

You are right, Bass would have been a better example (of course, water vision should be much shorter than land, but it doesn’t feel murky or getting worse with range, just like being in an ink-field)

[ancient kestrel]

That what admins for - to punish people for revenge spawns

[gritty heart]

As it is the issue isn’t not being able to see across the lake underwater, the issue is barely being able to see to use own creature when looking hard

This is made worse by the fact you can exploit by looking at the right angle to see as if on land, and then everything is clear as day, so it’s not like you are actually hidden when in these conditions.

[normal shuttle]

Well, skill issue

(I still think visibility should improve at night)

Bruh!!! Stop agreeing with me!!!

Are my takes really that good even when I try to make them bad?

[gritty heart]

Indiana Jones upvoted

[pliant elm]

Friend, but Dillo is a small dino, so much so that it was already part of the Carnotaurus' diet. They reduced the weight, life and speed of the carnotaurus so that it could become a "small prey hunter" but now you're saying that it doesn't need one, if not, its main source of diet?

[gritty heart]

Given the dilo has carno and cera (but not omni) of it’s diet the devs are clearly of the belief that dilo is their predator xd

[pliant elm]

Many simply can't decide whether or not they want Carno as a small prey hunter. And when asked to make some changes so that Carno can remain in this niche, there are still people who disagree xd (like you)

[pliant elm]

I really don't understand this, Carno is literally Dillo's biggest threat and is the main thing that prevents Dillo from being a plague on servers

[gritty heart]

It’s obviously because dilo is nutrient deficient

[pliant elm]

dillo is not nutrient deficient. And what's more, removing it from the diet will only make it provide even fewer nutrients.

[tall hearth]

i mean if its soooo popular, you should have no trouble getting diets from mass killing them and eating their organs.

the ever respawning ai and other growing players are also super easy targets. mix up what you eat and you shouldnt have much trouble sustaining yourself

carno is absolutely fine without dilo in its diet. same as its fine without cerato. their organs are plentiful enough

[pliant elm]

So while the other carnivorous dinos can achieve diets much more easily, Carno should kill dilos by the truckload and eat their organs instead of making a simple change in diet? I understood

[tall hearth]

i have an easy enough time eating dilo organs and using carno's other diet options to get my nutrients up

[gritty heart]

The devs took dilo from carno because dilos are adorable (just look at them) and couldn’t stand having carnos bully the innocent creatures

[tall hearth]

i kill them on sight. no dilo is innocent

[pliant elm]

damn look this

dillo is so big 👌

[pliant elm]

The point is that all other carnivores can easily achieve a perfect diet, but Carno hardly finds anything that is in // his diet. Eating organs should not be the main nutrient source but rather an optional one

[tall hearth]

you should be balancing the eating of organs and players alike.

the organs arent there as a minor crutch or a helpful hand, they play a large part in achieving perfect diet as well

[pliant elm]

and organs that actually provide a considerable amount of nutrients to the Carnotaurus are only found in cerato

[tall hearth]

well i guess you better get to huntin

[pliant elm]

Well, let's change Cerato's diet to just bots, there shouldn't be any problem since he can eat organs, right?

[tall hearth]

no, it should still have to interact with players. also it can eat raw meat and bones, since its supposed to be a great scavenging dino. idk what you're on about.

also carno doesnt only have ai in its diet, not sure if you've noticed the several other playables in there. dryo is actually the toughest diet to get since there's not too many people that play it. galli and maia are popular enough i can regularly search out and find players who are playing both of these. maia's are pretty hefty playables, so they actually have a good amount of meat on them when they're young.

[dawn hound]

GYAT DAYUM

[gritty heart]

I didn’t know they couldn’t eat goats XD

I guess it makes sense because I wouldn’t trust carnos on a cliff but that’s hilarious

[normal shuttle]

All I know is that beipi should be upsized to 3.5 tons

[gritty heart]

Beipi should be upsized to be an apex glass cannon. Maybe we could remove the semi aquatic nature as a trade off. I wonder what we could Call it

[normal shuttle]

Exactly

Being able to bleed out a trike unless it wallows

[gritty heart]

#general-feedback message

@split saddle

Isn’t the water access dam, like, over a hundred feet up

[white elm]

Segnosaurus

[wooden agate]

the deino will fly

[split saddle]

they make massive changes to the map all the time. have you seen the difference in the map just between live and hordetesting? devs have showed their willingness to make huge changes to the map

[wooden agate]

doesnt most of river delta come from water access (along with NE lake)

you wouldn't change just water access, you'd have to change several areas connected to it as well to even make the area make sense

[split saddle]

if we want to talk about how "realistic" it would be to keep the lake with a channel into the ocean. then we should remove highlands lake because it doesnt have a watersource and the land clearly doesnt get enough rainfall (based on vegetation coloring) to sustain a lake there

[wooden agate]

i wasn't talking about that i meant more so how the water flows when mentioning its connection to river delta

you not only need to change water access's height to be sea level but then also change the river that connects to it, but also change a large portion of area between highlands and water access to ensure that area is still even useable to traverse (going from highlands to sea level is one hell of a dive lol). which is fine, i wouldnt mind touch ups to that area, but that's really drastic and wouldnt really feel connected very well with the map

id rather slap a water treatment/powerplant next to the dam for a bit of spice and rework the general area from the sanctuary nearby to the lake of water access itself. the area could use some touch ups anyway

[pliant elm]

Carno can only eat boar, deer and omni (occasionally) from his entire diet.

And when you're 100%, dieting won't make as much sense as it does for growing.

[pliant elm]

Pachy - There are almost no players, the pachy can simply break the carno leg if it is solo and run away

Teno - needs at least 2 Carno to hunt and if the tenonto knows How to play, he can even take care of 3 carnotaurus

Herrera- Stay in the trees
Dryo- Nobody plays with that
Troodon - it is almost never found, and when it is found it does not even provide proper food, let alone nutrients.

Diablo- Seriously? A carnotaurus can't even hunt a dibble 50%

Galli- Can only be chased and caught by a 100% carnotaurus,

Maia- Even an incompetent Maia player can handle 1-2 carnotaurus

Carnotaurus needs dilo in its diet

[split saddle]

people hardly even go to the area to begin with. mostly just crocs (because they spawn there) or people traveling from ne jungle to the otherside of the map. I just really want to see the area reworked so that more people would be in this area, because its actually quite pretty out there (sry for responding so late im playing ranked games atm)

[thick summit]

#general-feedback message @normal nymph git gud. Just don't fight the three tonne herbivore as cera

[white elm]

Dilo - extremely overpowered and can kill anything with one bite at night

[split saddle]

i fought off 9 carnos on my teno like 2 weeks ago ;P, i thought it was only 7 until i watched replays

[normal nymph]

you're playing a class that has a broken hitbox and you actually try and tell people to "git gud".

[thick summit]

yes

but it's not a broken hitbox, it's latency and desync

[normal nymph]

its also a broken hitbox

[pliant elm]

Well, in this case it's already a question of how horrible 9 carno must be to lose to 1 teno xd (I in no way want to offend you, but...)

[thick summit]

no, it's literally just desync

[pliant elm]

Dilo is op, but Carnotaurus is his main hunter. Carnotaurus is what keeps Dillo from becoming a plague on the servers.

[normal nymph]

It's not just desync. You can say the same thing 100 times but no other dino has the consistent " Desync" issues. I understand that you like dibble bc it makes you feel good at the game but your dino is broken.

[split saddle]

well if they have to run in a 3x pack that tells you all you need to know tbh

[thick summit]

that is literally wrong

[normal nymph]

nope

[covert tiger]

#general-feedback message

How is anybody possible capable of negative voting this?
I don't understand

There is no desync issue
You can stand in a perfect ping server, not moving, and test the attack
It will knock down even when hitting behind the tail

[covert tiger]

More like, you want your ridiculously easy broken overweighted herbivore to keep its crutch, not require skill and not be balanced

[thick summit]

Omni and troodon are in a rough spot due to desync, carno's charge is also affected by desync, sometimes deino's can't grab prey due to desync, etc.
So no, it's not just dibble

I get where you're coming from but you're objectively wrong

[normal nymph]

Im not though

[thick summit]

That is very bold of you to assume

[covert tiger]

Wrong.
You are wrong.

Omni and troodon have major desync issues.
Carno and dibble have attack hitbox issues, absolutely nothing to do with desync.

[normal nymph]

dibble is stupid broken and you have the nerve to argue it

[thick summit]

they do have a lot to do with desync

[thick summit]

can you run from dibbles?

[normal nymph]

LOL

[thick summit]

yes. Is it therefore broken/op? no

[covert tiger]

A lot of times yeah sure.
Not in dibbles and carnos case.

[thick summit]

I mean if you think so

[normal nymph]

BC carnivores should have to run from herbo's everytime we see them

[thick summit]

I mean

[normal nymph]

U r making yourself look goofy

[ivory wren]

Yep you gotta hunt them well

[thick summit]

there isn't really a carnivore built to take on the large herbivores besides deinosuchus

You're not forced to fight large herbivores as carno or cera

[normal nymph]

I think it should be hard still thats not what im saying. I just want it to be fair

[ivory wren]

What would make it fair?

[normal nymph]

broken hitbox

[covert tiger]

This is not an argument whether or not a carnivore should be taking on others or not.
You can replace carno with whatever you want - allo, rex, stego, whatever.
You are literally not getting the point.

Nothing should register a hit and knockdown if it wasn't actually hit.
There is no defending this

[ivory wren]

Huh

Broken hitbox makes it fair???

[normal nymph]

The dibble has a broken hitbox

[ivory wren]

Wdym by that

Like you can’t hit the dibble in the butt

[normal nymph]

how else do I explain it

[covert tiger]

You can test it against stego or anything else as well, like a smaller dibble. On a perfect ping server with both targets not moving.
A dibbles attack will hit and knockdown even when not touching

End of story

[thick summit]

I am not defending the hit/cc stuff I am just telling you that the hitboxes are most likely fine it's just the desync that matters.

[covert tiger]

And btw stego tail hit and carno ram have the exact same problem
Zero desync issue

[covert tiger]

This test is literally to prove to you that it's not desync

[thick summit]

That doesn't mean the players aren't desynchronised

[covert tiger]

Yes it does.
That's the literal definition of desync

Occurs when one is lagging more than the other so the server transmits data on your screen differently

[thick summit]

If it were a hitbox issue there'd be a way to abuse it like in legacy

[thick summit]

indeed

[covert tiger]

It is abused.
Hence the entire reason of why this post was made

Every time a dibble hits when it isn't supposed to hit, it's abuse

[thick summit]

or the dibble hit the cera's leg on their screen

[covert tiger]

It's clear to me that logical valid points with a proven test isn't enough for you and that nothing can be said or proven more for you to change your mind, so I'll stop here

It's your fav playable, there's a bias, I get it

[normal nymph]

thats bc he is a dibble main

[thick summit]

It is very immature to assume that I just want dibble to be op

[thick summit]

if you'd actually read our conversation you'll find a message of me saying that I do not defend the weird hit/cc registration

[normal nymph]

You were though

[thick summit]

I do want the issue to be fixed regardless if it's a hitbox, hitzone or desync/latency issue

[thick summit]

that is incorrect

[normal nymph]

" hitbox isnt broken git gud"

[covert tiger]

Not really
If someone wants an op mechanic to stay and blames other things like desync (which is proven not to be the case), that is the equivalent of wanting the dino to stay op

Your 'git gud' is the immature comment and you dare blame us for immaturity

[normal nymph]

well said

At the end of the day I think its awesome that you have a dino you love playing so much that you base you identity off of but you have to understand it's not in a fair or balanced state right now. So to come in chat and talk crap really just makes you look goofy. I think you should want you char to be fair not just broken. I main cera and I will be the first to say it's over tuned and the vomit mechanic probably needs to be tuned but at least I can have a fair fight with one.

[thick summit]

I shall stop arguing with you as it's only getting heated by the minute. You claim it's a hitbox issue and I claim it's a desync issue. It should get fixed as it makes combat less fair and fluent regardless of the cause of said issue. You keep claiming I just want my "main" to be broken which is literally wrong. Getting personal and rude in an argument and claiming stuff I've literally never said is very immature. I was just telling you that I believe it's a different issue. (we don't exactly now though because we don't have access to the game's hitzones iirc). You assumed a lot of random stuff which was literally never the point so I'll just drop this here. have a great day

[thick summit]

this was literally never the point. Please just read my last message and the conversation. I said multiple times that I want the issue to be fixed regardless of the cause. It's not about bias.

[normal nymph]

Dont get personal or rude? Read your first comment..... Im trying to be polite but you seem to be a child so ill dip here. Later

[thick summit]

It is very bold and rude to just assume things which literally aren't the point

[thick summit]

that was a so-called "joke"

and your last message says otherwise

anyway. have a great day

[gritty heart]

I haven’t played much of the ht, super full and I’ve been busy, and the night vision made it harder to play xd. But I’ve heard there were decent amounts of changes.

But that would be very large change. Not impossible but it would be a lot

[thick summit]

the map got a lot of changes

[covert tiger]

There are no assumptions, only disappointment, where you refuse to change your 'claim' even after it has been proven to you that it's not the case.
This blindness and inability to accept facts presented to you that disprove your claim is immature. Stop projecting that on us, thanks.

[thick summit]

Thanks!

[covert tiger]

You are most welcome.
I spent a lot of time testing this to disprove your claim.

[storm aurora]

@maiden anvil I love this idea but you cant deny this i horrifying and awesome. i would still love just an waste land with nothing at some parts

[thick summit]

just so you know before assuming things: my main main is troodon :)

[gritty heart]

Pitiable

[normal nymph]

yeah nobody believes you there

[covert tiger]

I don't care one bit what your main is.
I care about dibble knocking things down it's not touching and I care about why ppl would defend such a thing.

[storm aurora]

domain expansion cliff

[thick summit]

I do not defend the issue at all

[thick summit]

@desert arch I told you I main troodon, didn't I?

[normal nymph]

nobody cares

[desert arch]

What

[covert tiger]

You absolutely defend the issue when you shift the blame on something else which isn't applicable in this case (desync) and when your first reaction is to ask the person reporting the issue to git gud.

[thick summit]

anyway, regardless of the issue, it should get fixed

[thick summit]

👍

[desert arch]

Its midnight and Im sleepy

[thick summit]

I do

and khonshu does

[thick summit]

why are you on your phone. Good night.

[desert arch]

https://tenor.com/view/napping-sleeping-cozy-potato-gif-21321756

[normal nymph]

I think you need some sleep. You keep saying the dumbest things lol

[desert arch]

But yes, you did

[woeful latch]

good night potato

[thick summit]

#general-feedback message @bleak kestrel nah magy should have some kind of poison or toxin

[normal nymph]

not clicking on your video weirdo

[thick summit]

ok

idc

[normal nymph]

then stop spamming it into chat

[thick summit]

hey cheesy! what were the carno buffs again?

[thick summit]

👍

[woeful latch]

hey, so it’s the stam buff, they removed bleed weakness and some agility buffs

and it grows faster

[gritty heart]

It doesn’t “immediately” die to herra now? Too powerful, revert the buff

[woeful latch]

lol

[thick summit]

hell yeah

I noticed the agility buff

[woeful latch]

yeah i feel like carno is a lot better as a playable now

[thick summit]

idk if it's just me but does carno look a bit chunkier to you too?

[woeful latch]

oh idk really, i stopped playing HT after i crashed and lost my carno.

[thick summit]

Imo it does look chunkier than before

might just be the morph

#general-feedback message @supple halo if you believe dibble is too strong then don't fight it

it is that easy

[normal nymph]

yeah thats a good way to fix a broken issue.... Just dont fight it lol

[thick summit]

Stego, dibble and soon trike won't be an easy meal for small tiers

larger animals will be able to take them down

[normal nymph]

stego is not broken

[thick summit]

correct

[supple halo]

lol yeah, but they usally fight me. out of no where they will charge a pack of dilos and kill them within 5 min

[normal nymph]

dibble is mechaniclly broken

[thick summit]

just run away

I know most players just choose to fight

[normal nymph]

or fix the issue and stop saying stupid things in chat to get attention

[thick summit]

what issue? 😭

[normal nymph]

dibble has a broken hitbox... Go test it yourself

[thick summit]

I dropped it 20 minutes ago 😭

[supple halo]

still its a big issue, i understand that you play dibble and ur trying to defend it, but it ruins my, and many others experience

[lucid mauve]

I feel thats like complaining about stego is killing you as cera, chasing you down lol

[thick summit]

Imma just use the humble button

[thick summit]

it's not a big issue

[normal nymph]

its a huge issue

[thick summit]

if it were like HT maia...yeah.. but dibble is slow

[supple halo]

look, it does crazy damage, and takes almost none

[thick summit]

you're not forced to fight it unless you're a deino

[normal nymph]

dibble is the strongest class in the game and its bugged.... how dumb can you be?

[thick summit]

that's because dibble is larger than most animals in the roster

a skilled cera pack can take down a dibble

[normal nymph]

I dont care that it does a lot of dmg. I care about getting hit when im not sup to

[icy lion]

@normal nymph Enough of the insults

[thick summit]

also, dilos can take down dibbles

[supple halo]

enough?

[thick summit]

just try to use your venom as you can't win without it

[thick summit]

they told them to stop using insults

[normal nymph]

something being able to kill a dibble isnt the issue. The issue is we have to play around something that isnt intended to be in the game and you're trying to defend it

[bleak kestrel]

What making his corpse posionus?

[supple halo]

he called u dumb 1 time, enough would be used if it was an ongoing thing

[icy lion]

It has been an ongoing thing, which is why I told them to stop

[thick summit]

I mean lunary told them. I didn't do anything

[thick summit]

I shall now block you

[normal nymph]

the mods here like to abuse power a bit and overly moderate chat even though this guy inulted me first.. Mod was to lazy to look that far back though I guess

[bleak kestrel]

Like i dont get how magy posion would work

[thick summit]

oof...I dropped that argument 30 minutes ago and they still kept going

anyway. magy poison

[normal nymph]

you never stopped

[thick summit]

not really its corpse but rather Magy itself

[supple halo]

is dumb a slur or smth?

[bleak kestrel]

I think better option is to make magy spray water like elephant with his trunk

[bleak kestrel]

Corpse was already idea of devs making cera only thing that would be able to eat it and something else i think

[thick summit]

biting it results in sickness/illness

[thick summit]

yeah true

[normal nymph]

nope just your typical mod abuse

[bleak kestrel]

You know at this point just make carnis teeth brake if they hit the wrong part of magys body would make more sense

[thick summit]

so magy and its corpse are poisonous and cera is the only animal to be immune

[supple halo]

i wouldnt call it abuse, but its definetly not right to be giving out warnings for dumb

[normal nymph]

I got a 24 hour ban for telling someone to "calm down paw patrol"

[supple halo]

thats mod abuse

[thick summit]

I think magy being poisonous makes more sense as the corpse is already said to make animals sick

[bleak kestrel]

Remove whole sickness thingy

[dusk sable]

Larson u in here

[thick summit]

that'd make magy allo's dinner

[bleak kestrel]

I think magy being able to sense danger by his feet like elephants would be cooler

[normal nymph]

yup

[bleak kestrel]

No if magy knows that allo is coming

[thick summit]

but how is it gonna survive

[bleak kestrel]

Also isnt magy said to be faster than allo 😭

[thick summit]

wait what

[bleak kestrel]

Wnich is insane

[thick summit]

WHAT?

😭

[bleak kestrel]

But devs did mention that at some point but not sure

[thick summit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/859658919130824734/15.12.2020_18.53.47_REC_1_1.gif

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl i think maybe magys bite should be very strong

For sauropod

And also i think spraying water its still cool idea

[thick summit]

or just make it poisonous

it'd be hilarious

Imagine a magy just bodyguards your food and you can't do anything because its poisonous

[split saddle]

@bleak kestrel while i do love the idea because that would be a new mechanic and make the dinosaur unique. my only problem tho, is the way it would be abused by mixpacking. "oh my carno friends theres some stuff you can probably kill to the east"

[bleak kestrel]

Oh yeah...

[bleak kestrel]

This is just stupid

[thick summit]

no

it'd be funny

imagine magy just walks up to a rex family and just stands there

and the rexes don't wanna bite it cause they don't wanna get sick

I'd main magy

[bleak kestrel]

We dont really need dino that main job is to troll

And rex would just maul it

[supple halo]

may i ask why rellex got banned?

[thick summit]

if it mauls it, the rex gets sick

[gritty heart]

Did they compare it to a paraplegic allo?

[bleak kestrel]

Oh he did?

[bleak kestrel]

Not sure

[supple halo]

why did he get banned?

[bleak kestrel]

Yeah but i dont think t-rex would be affected than much

[supple halo]

was it because he spoke out?

about the staff abuse?

[bleak kestrel]

Ask a mod

[supple halo]

who?

[thick summit]

it should be

magy just going around to make people's day worse would actually be hilarious

[bleak kestrel]

Okey i just dont agree with you.

[thick summit]

you don't have to

BUT...you've to admit..it'd be funny

[coarse spruce]

Nah just make shrooms glow

[bleak kestrel]

If you find adding dino that basiclay is made to ruin other ppl expirance would be funny at this point just dont add magy at all

[bleak kestrel]

Yeah not really

[thick summit]

I mean how would it survive without some kind of poison

[bleak kestrel]

Dino that can make you sick by killing it and it doesnt reward you at all its just wierd concept

[supple halo]

i need a mod

[bleak kestrel]

Hm let me guess... My suggestion would be better idea ngl.

[thick summit]

just don't fight it but I mean cera could take it down

[bleak kestrel]

But you know it would make magy kinda boring too

Nothing wants to attack you

Expect cera

Wnich wont be a lot cause by that time cera will be like 10% of players maybe

[tardy talon]

no one will play cera when allo and rex are out

[thick summit]

while it'd be interesting, it'd be used for mixpacking and it would not really help magy..."oh! I sensed an allo! Oh man! It's charging at me...oh maa-" dead

[thick summit]

I will play cera

[thick summit]

it would not be boring

[tardy talon]

yeah i mean like 90% of people arent though

[thick summit]

you can just annoy people and you can make them suffer

[thick summit]

that's because they're META slaves

"oh! Allosaurus can kill 10x better than cera!! Screw cera!! me be allo"

[bleak kestrel]

You would know the allos location before he knows your if ur careful

[thick summit]

Magy is a sauropod

you can't really hide as a sauropod

it may be a small one but it's not that easy

[bleak kestrel]

Well you can alawas try to fight back

[thick summit]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-kaperoo-evrima-allosaurus-magyarosaurus-gif-25123484

[normal shuttle]

magy will survive

I have no doubt, jokes aside

[normal shuttle]

jungle is super dense, it will be fine

[subtle swan]

Can people stop complaining about something that's being actively worked on. #general-feedback message

[sage yoke]

Please fix deino lunge on right click im sick of getting stuck running in a straight line unable to turn with them into water.....food just getting away constantly.

[subtle swan]

Need to put this in the General Feedback, not the discussions.

Also, you're probably hitting rocks.

(but I've also had food get away just touching the sides of a narrow channel)

[radiant sinew]

i shouldnty have to install the HT to play

[limber hull]

Why not? If you wanna play the HT you’re gonna have to install it

[radiant sinew]

because i dont want to play HT

and i shouldnt be strong armed into it as a customer

[limber hull]

Then… don’t? You aren’t. Just play EVRIMA or legacy lol

Where is HT a requirement lol

[radiant sinew]

i am there havent been any servers on the list for 30 minutes

but i keep getting messaged to just play the horde test

the devs arent do any strong arming

its the messages

That shouldnt be the solution

[limber hull]

What messages?

[radiant sinew]

direct messages

[limber hull]

WTF who’s going around DMing people to HT lol

[subtle swan]

#🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 message

atm it's the solution (but Hordetest is also likely down)

[surreal scroll]

Anyone having issues finding servers

Like it just won't load any

[icy lion]

Epic Online Services are having issues again, so the server browser may not work properly until it's resolved https://status.epicgames.com/

[surreal scroll]

Does that affect steam?

[icy lion]

Yep

[warm blaze]

@placid anchor i agree what should be like this https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c2/ec/d3/c2ecd37d976a88c570f406d7bf097444.gif

[barren crater]

@long edge It’s a bug dw. Carno, cera and dilo had a similar issue earlier HT.

There are knockdown issues in general for some playables. Mainly Maia and Teno rn

[ancient kestrel]

I remember that it was confirmed that dibble have hitbox issues. it's wider than supposed to be or something like that

[ancient kestrel]

Gally/Hypsi moment

[bleak kestrel]

Ngl those are good i think

Like they still serve a puporse in ecosystem

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

so dont fight it lol what why would you leave over it if you're the one that took that fight

[junior nymph]

he DEF watched summit1gs interview

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message

what are u even suggesting here man

[normal shuttle]

@bitter depot bro, just learn how the stamina works instead of going for the rutinary suggestion to change a mechanic you cannot understand or try to exaggerate to prove a point 😭

@zealous fulcrum Mfw the slow moving, x2 damage weakspot herbivore has to be effective at defense in order to not be garbo especially with most player going for carnis and the upcoming arrival of rex and allo.

Maybe get better against stegos or just don’t bother trying to hunt them as an omni or a cera

[zealous fulcrum]

Rex and allo is very much needed

[normal shuttle]

They will come

[zealous fulcrum]

But it’s just annoying sometimes

[normal shuttle]

But stego doesn’t need a nerf

[normal shuttle]

It’s annoying if you try to fight one when it isn’t worth it more often than not

It’s the glass cannon of the apex world, mistakes have consequences

[zealous fulcrum]

A baby almost killed me as a full grown cera because it hit me when I was in front

[normal shuttle]

I like to call stego relatively overtuned

Simply because it has no real match at the moment but in a vacuum its stats are just fine and it is arguably even a bit weak

[zealous fulcrum]

Yeh ik

[normal shuttle]

No way a baby could kill you in one hit

[zealous fulcrum]

It got me real low

It must have been some sort of bug

[normal shuttle]

Then it wasn’t really a baby either

[zealous fulcrum]

It was

[normal shuttle]

Was probably already +600 kg

[zealous fulcrum]

I can assure u

Smaller than the cera

[normal shuttle]

It wasn’t a baby

Mathematically impossible that it was anywhere close to fresh spawn

[zealous fulcrum]

Nah it was

[normal shuttle]

Yeah and stego is fat. Volume doesn’t matter

[zealous fulcrum]

It probs hit me twice

[zealous fulcrum]

No like really small

Anyway

I’m just waiting for allo Ngl

[normal shuttle]

Soon

[zealous fulcrum]

Yep hopefully

I’m really excited for those mid tiers like allo and sucho

[normal shuttle]

Either way

Rex is coming and that thing is a low tier, mid tier and apex at a time

With its life cycle

[urban flax]

Make people fully grown on HT server, and have an admin teleport them all in the same place

[limber hull]

so dont actually test the server properly got it

[urban flax]

Test the server as if it was Primal Carnage or some PvP exclusive game

[limber hull]

ah, the old Summit special

[spice orbit]

@tired quest #general-feedback message. Just eat the plants instead of the fruits

[tired quest]

yeah and they are getting in the way I have to move aroundmy gaint body just to aim for the right angle so that the option will pop out ,and only provide me for like a single bite amount

[spice orbit]

just eat one fruit and you usually able to eat the plant whilst not moving afterwards

[tired quest]

that why Im leaving that suggestion, I don't mind like grazing for a longer period of time, it is just annoying, plus bigger herbi like trike are comming in to the game too

[crystal narwhal]

There should be safe drinking puddles that form after rains, and dry out after droughts

[urban flax]

@dull shuttle There is global chat on unofficial servers who choose to enable it

[dull shuttle]

thanks for the information

[vital laurel]

@dim wing they are doing organic testing on 1 concentrated server before adding the rest and QA is for getting more focused testing

[dim wing]

Justified!

[hidden burrow]

As someone that only plays official servers, does anyone else feel like with Trike and Rex being in the hordetest, they should just release them on official servers as well?

[icy lion]

Rex and trike are planned to release on officials

[trail schooner]

Is t the plan unofficial’s first for more balancing? Or am I remembering things wrong

[icy lion]

Not anymore, though the devs have said they still reserve the right to disable them at a later point

[trail schooner]

Gotcha

[weak ermine]

sub rex in legacy was a decent mid tier, i wonder if it will be the same on evrima.

[hidden burrow]

Woo hoo tysm!

[hidden burrow]

It'll probably be the same as Deino in the sense that once you get to about 55% you're gonna be big but still fast enough to catch a lot

[coarse spruce]

#general-feedback message straight up looks like your teno DIED there

ate the ground and then just lied still

[thick summit]

The devs confirmed that rex will thrive in different niches in the ecosystem as it grows

We dunno much about said niches but I believe juvi rex will hunt smaller animals like hypsi, dryo and beipi. Imma say it might be able to hold its own against dibbles and might even be able to take one down in a fight

And when it's a chunky chonker it will go for larger animals like stegosaurus and Triceratops

Keep in mind that this is just speculation

[gritty heart]

I doubt it will be getting many beipis, and there aren’t any hypsi/dryos around to eat smh

[wintry verge]

sa

[wooden agate]

juvie rex will be a solo omni nightmare

alongside pretty much every other juvie in game

[simple nebula]

I think message got deleted in general feedback

Wierd

[icy lion]

#moderation message

[simple nebula]

Oh yeah mb

[gritty heart]

@acoustic spruce I assume you mean semi aquatic and not semi automatic

[normal shuttle]

A cera getting ran down by a 1.8 ton sub rex is also gonna be hilarious

@compact rapids that brings PROBLEMS!

[acoustic spruce]

Lmaoo yea I did

[gritty heart]

Just destroy your own Dino if you want to choose your spawn, it gets their eventually

[gritty heart]

Tbf semi automatic Cory would be an awesome dinosaur combat game character xd

[acoustic spruce]

Lmaoo

[simple nebula]

@compact rapids I don't think choosing where you spawn would be good, because there's some places that nobody really like and those will just become empty, they are planning to add friend codes or smth like that, so youncan spawn at the same place as a friend

[gritty heart]

I mean that already happens (via migrations/resetting), but yeah, making it an option would effectively further encourage it

[compact rapids]

Regret putting feedback since I wasn't wanting to be pinged multiple times.

[thick summit]

@visual star may I ask why you think that way?

Herrera is a great animal and quite fun

[woven bane]

herrera offers a lot to the game, such a unique playable but people hate on it for the sake of it

[thick summit]

fr

their juvi omni got killed by a herrera and it should get removed because of it

[gritty heart]

It’s bad rn because there isn’t really anything else in the arboreal meta. It will probably lose a good deal of controversy if/when things can potentially threaten them in the trees (excluding that one guy who apparently got ninja kicked out of a tree by a galli)

[thick summit]

I mean there isn't much

Ptera, quetz and juvi megalanias

[gritty heart]

Megalania is the main one I’m referring to. Ptera is effectively worthless imo (fighting wise at least). Quetza might be dangerous on the palm trees (which have leaves that can cover herras, which would matter more if 80% of herras didn’t take neon sign skins XD).

[thick summit]

I mean adult megalanias can't climb

Ptera is getting some adjustments and it could put up a fight but we dunno yet

and I believe the devs said quetz will be a nightmare for herrera

[hidden mist]

@gentle roost Shift + F9 (or F10?) will hide the watermark.

[gritty heart]

I heard that which is a bit disappointing, but I’m more interested in whether baby mega has to climb back down or jump (if it has to climb herra won’t have any real issues, but at least it would be pressure).

I really think it’s the high single attack Damage mixed with being generally hard to force interaction with that frustrated players. Even deinos can interact more, from a technical perspective. Though herra can’t hurt as much of the roster.

I think herra’s brutal start also helps to weed out the completely incompetent players, which makes the average fg herra more competent

[thick summit]

indeed

[trim grotto]

#general-feedback message
Anyone else share my transgressions with Maias current state in the game?

Cause Maia wasn’t butchered after HT, it was like this since it’s HT arrival

[white elm]

it definitely needs buffs, and apparently it has some on the ht (faster attacks and acceleration)

[gritty heart]

Personally I don’t find them too threatening (I don’t think I’ve died to one, maybe like 1 time as a blinded (night) beipi but that may have been a cera. But it does force you on edge without ability to chase them off well (I spent like 1-2 hours closely tracking a herra around west rail access to kill it)

[trim grotto]

It’s Turn in place speed and hit detection needs to be buffed. I should be able to stand on my hind legs and knock over a Cera that’s trying to ring around the Rosie with me, right?

Cause right now it’s just abysmal for defence

[wooden agate]

well yeah isnt it supposed to be more of a runner

[white elm]

doesn't mean it shouldn't be buffed

[trim grotto]

That’s the other thing. You CANT Switch from Bipedal and Quadrupedal stance when GETTING attacked or in the “ow I got hit” animation. Its a bug that has ticked me off for so long

[white elm]

also maia CAN knock down carnos/ceras, it just has to be at maximum speed and using its front shove, not the side shoves (from what I've seen)

[trim grotto]

Even with the balance issues aside. It should be able to:

• Turn in place faster

• Paddle things that are smaller than a Dilo

• Switch between stances while getting attacked

[trim grotto]

Currently, Maia NEEDS these, Desperately

I don’t think Maia should be able to go toe to toe with 2-3 Ceratos, but at the same time, Maias shouldn’t be have such a hard time defending themselves from a singular Cerato

[normal shuttle]

@visual star mad cuz bad

if you die to them, you can just look up the next time or identify signs of their presence like corpses piling up near high places

and if you wanna kill them, stealth works best

done, there you go

suddenly the entire plan of the noob stomper has crumbled

[visual star]

I pounced 4 in 1 hour last night. died to one. I spot them. I look.. The number of heras is too high for 100 player servers imo. As things are. Too many players just up in trees. Give us 200 player servers and it will be better but as things are I would love a server without hera still to keep the ground activity higher

[normal shuttle]

if you have 200 players per server, who says 20-60 wont be playing herra?

It's just because herra is good design

it's a fun and unique carnivore, so it is popular

[visual star]

its the safest dino to play thats for sure

[normal shuttle]

easily one of the safest until cannibals show up

but they are still very much reachable and can be hunted reliably by all carnivores except for troodon

if there's a large chunk of players going for herra, then it could be indicative of the need to make others just as fun and interesting too. Nothing wrong with the playable

[visual star]

its almost good enough as a playable type to have its own game of stealth hunting. certainly a fun design. So nice to Jump on real players and stalk from above. And nice that cannibalism isn't encouraged by the diet like with Deino. So it has lead to an active player base of Hera mains, obviously. and it is safe and easy to get into. Meanwhile, the difficulty of growing any other carnivor makes for a frustrating interaction when the easy to play Hera gets to nearly end even a full grown carno or ceras life in one jump. It's part of what makes surviving so rewarding tho, avoiding dangerous ambushers. But again, It is cutting down on how many players are on the ground. Anyways. I have my opinion.

[gritty heart]

It’s for a decently fun style (reactive ambushes) but I consider unbalanced pretty much just because there isn’t much you can do to hurt a smart herra player.

Only Omni really has the tricks to reliable punish a miss (being able to pounce them, Iirc), and everyone else has to hope for a doofus herra or try and starve them out (which is easier said than done).

When they get real tree threat(s) (even if it’s not a common threat, like a quetz having to spot them and snatch) I’ll consider them balanced. But rn they could talk a nap irl and if there isn’t a rare canni they only need to worry about their bellies.

The only thing arguably less threatened is an oceanic beipi, and that can’t hurt anyone (because no one is there).

(Effectively I think the playable is fine but the ecosystem needs some sort of theoretical answer to it, even if things like quetzas don’t actual bother attacking much).

[thick summit]

one mistake and you're dead

[gritty heart]

Not really. It’s pretty agile so it’s not that hard to escape. Just jump back up a rock or tree and you will be safe again.

Some places even have trees in all direction (west rail access) so you can overshoot and then continue forwards up a tree.

[normal shuttle]

northern sanc pond is an underrated herra spot

[weak surge]

Thoghts on the stego vs 10 ceras?

[thick summit]

holy moly

[thick summit]

why didn't it cliff camp

[weak surge]

the stego won.

[thick summit]

lol

[visual star]

One mistake is what you say when you actually die. But Heras get away with a lot more than anything else that has to run to get away, leaving footprints. useing stam... Hera just jumps on a wall or tree,. all good.

[normal shuttle]

the GALLIMIMUS jumping and kicking it out of the tree if it was chasing it:

[thick summit]

this seems like revenge nerfing

[normal shuttle]

real

[thick summit]

Herrera is a glass cannon

things slower than herrera either knock it down or 1-2 shot it

[normal shuttle]

herra is fine, and in fact it has a handful horrid matchups (which isn't something I can say about other playables)

It will be far less common when stuff like megalania, and quetz show up

[thick summit]

and things faster than herrera are even more dangerous

[normal shuttle]

if a carno or galli is on you, you simply cant use climbing as an option

that's gonna get you killed even if you jump

and omni is super dangerous beyond 30% growth which is ridiculous

I'd say herra is S- tier by isle balancing standards, but mostly in terms of viability

[thick summit]

yes

if a carno spots you on the ground you're dead

most of the time

and if a cera sees you in the water and wants you dead, you ARE dead

[normal shuttle]

I have unironically swam down and killed herras as a fresh adult dilo in the past

it is hysterical how a damn dilo outperforms them in the water

[gritty heart]

It doesn’t need nerfing it’s need something to be able to contest in trees. Otherwise it’s good balance wise

[gritty heart]

Skill issue smh (isle discord user’s favorite term).

But on a serious note, unless you are hanging out in the middle of of a giant plain, just being vaguely attentive is enough to get into the numerous trees throughout the map. It’s not like gateway likes trees.

[thick summit]

"most of the time"

if you can't get to a tree in time you die

that's why I always hang out at a water source so if I can not reach a tree or rock in time, I can just jump into the water

[normal shuttle]

bro

[visual star]

@gritty heart just assuming you play a bunch of Dilo, is it just me or is our bite/damage hitbox like half way down our neck or what? Feels like i have to body slam into things to bite them.

[normal shuttle]

when will nickboay's drones shut up?

[gritty heart]

I mean yeah, but if you aren’t near a tree (or large rock) you aren’t herraring right. Most of the map is covered in trees, and most parts that aren’t have good visibility to see threats from a good way off.

If we were in a desert map with only oasis trees it would be a much bigger deal, but it’s not hard to keep in a tree

[normal shuttle]

😭

#general-feedback message apparently whether something is big or small should impact stam regen rather than its role or design

[thick summit]

mhm

[gritty heart]

I haven’t played the ht. Honestly, I can’t really say (especially if it’s hordetest).

[thick summit]

I play herrera at west access

[normal shuttle]

do these people just want to one shot a cera with a full damage pounce?

[gritty heart]

West access as in the little lake below west rail access? That does have a plain west of it I could see being dangerous

[visual star]

not in horde testing, just playing Dilo for the first times and Finding that the bite is not landing out in front of me. not like cera or carno, or raptor even. idk. might be a me thing

[thick summit]

the long pond

it's actually quite good! the plain has tons of palm trees for quick escapes and mud pits! I killed a lot of wallowing carnos after they tried to escape me

[gritty heart]

This one?

[thick summit]

#general-feedback message @normal shuttle

[thick summit]

yes

[gritty heart]

Yeah, it’s pretty much a perfectly tuned herra spot and I spend a lot of time there, so I may admittedly be seeing them in an optimal environment a lot (the long lane means herra can jump a good part of it to skip the swim).

The funny part is apparently it has a hill gallis can fling themself off of and hit the common herra camping tree, but that’s nothing I’ve personally witnessed just saw/talking with a guy it happened once to.

[normal shuttle]

@sudden whale no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

titanoboa would suck so much ass

and it only takes 2 minutes of thought

I am tired of both omni victim complex and titanoboa suggestions!!!!

[thick summit]

Carnos, omnis, dilos and stegos are usually at those plains and I know a popular drinking spot

[sudden whale]

Whyyy

[thick summit]

#general-feedback message what animal were you?

regardless, do NOT nerf dibble's bleed 😭

[gritty heart]

I swear those two “normal” looking trees always have a herra sitting on them (I find the palm trees do a much better job of being ambush spot, since the fronds cover them at the top).

But I won’t complain if they want to make it easier to spot themselves xd

[thick summit]

fr!

[gritty heart]

Deinosuchus is massive, it couldn’t be snatched up like that (and in fact would probably just end up grabbing the titan)

[thick summit]

Titanoboa could barely harm a deinosuchus

[gritty heart]

I’ve legit seen herras all but vanish before my eyes (with a decent skin) with palm trees, while the normal tree only works from 2 angles (if you see them from the side the whole silhouette is available).

[thick summit]

Deino is simply too massive

[fair jetty]

#general-feedback message @long sphinx Dilo's clones are supposed to do damage, that's an effect of the venom

[past crystal]

#general-feedback message
unfortunately, the devs have said no snakes :(

[sudden whale]

Yeah okay that's true but idk I just find playing deino so easy it's just to boring.. titanoboa could be a "lil" cool tho

[normal shuttle]

1. Potential deinosuchus or megalania clone in terms of its place in the ecosystem
2. Extremely hard to develop while also potentially just being bad design without looking stupid
3. If you wanna make it a constrictor, then it cannot attack prey who are in groups because you will get jumped by everyone
4. Too slow and lacking enough bulk and power to compete with many other things like deino in the water, spino, sucho, literally every mid tier above cera size and land apexes.
5. Deino as a solo player is not easy lmao. You gotta spend 6 hours trying not to starve while also having to watch out for cannibals that are faster and stronger than you for most of the growth. Deino is only easy with babysitters.
6. Deino does NOT need more competitors. It is already a cannibal and we are getting the three spinosaurids, cheirus and megalania already for semi aquatics or adept water enjoyers. And if anything titanoboa even with largest estimates would just be an easy meal for an adult deino
7. Even if you wanna make it a climber, lacking a jump would make it hell to catch any other climber except for young megalanias, and in land it would get bullied so hard by almost everything

[thick summit]

don't worry

your G spinosaurus will make deino gameplay much more interesting

[normal shuttle]

even bary is a more reliable threat to deino than titanoboa

[sudden whale]

Hope so, but that probably comes out in a couple years?

[normal shuttle]

while also not sucking

[normal shuttle]

I give it 2 years. It's the next apex after rex and trike I believe

but we never know

[thick summit]

Imma say next year

[sudden whale]

Damn

[normal shuttle]

could be less

or more

[thick summit]

very late 2026

(my guess)

[normal shuttle]

either way, bary is boa sized while also being viable and unique

[thick summit]

Bary will give deino the

[normal shuttle]

I think deinos are not gonna be chilling as much in south river and west pond anymore once bary drops

[sudden whale]

Tbh I would also like to see a bear but you prob have something to say about that too😭

[thick summit]

what we truly need is...Felis catus

[sudden whale]

Sum like this

[weak surge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgUbfkvskCE&t=54s

[normal shuttle]

I have always something to say about additions that aren't unique or a very valuable addition besides "It'd be cool tho"

that being

a playable can prolly cost like 10k dollars to make at the very least

and need hundreds of hours of work

that's a big investment for an indie studio, so it better be worth adding

[gentle roost]

You don’t want Titanoboa added because it’d be a waste of resources and add nothing new to the roster. I don’t want Titanoboa added because I hate snakes. We are not the same.

[normal shuttle]

also because I hate titanoboa precisely

not all snakes, titanoboa in particular

[sudden whale]

What about a bear

[gentle roost]

Then again, at least big snakes like Titanoboa don’t trigger my ophidiophobia as hard

If it was a smaller venomous snake though, then I’d had to uninstall the game lmao

[sudden whale]

Snakes aren't scary but spiders are lol

[normal shuttle]

#general-feedback-discussion message

[gritty heart]

My main concern with bary is deino underwater lower grab requirements, unless bary can claw while being grabbed to deter small ones

[gritty heart]

I don’t think a bear would fit the isle tbh

[normal shuttle]

totally acceptable for deino to drown a single bary. Bary shouldn't even be in deep water like that

However, that won't matter in places like shallow rivers and especially ponds. Crocs will get jumped there

[gentle roost]

Yeah mammals just don’t really mesh with the isle to me

Even Deino and Megalainia push it for me

[thick summit]

tbf deino should be an exception

[gritty heart]

It’s not just it being a mammal, it’s it being a mammal we have today (at least forms of).

Mega and croc are kinda pushing it, but deino was with the Dinos

[thick summit]

megalania is an ehh choice but idm cause

LIZOORD

[gentle roost]

I just don’t understand like

[thick summit]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-dance-reptile-gif-15453397

[gritty heart]

Mega is at least substantially larger than modern ones, and most modern monitors are smaller than Komodos.

[gentle roost]

You buy this super detailed game where you can play as a dinosaur and you choose to play as a croc or a big lizard?

[thick summit]

ERM ERM ERM

Deinosuchus is NOT a crocodile

it is an Alligatorid

and deinosuchus is MASSIVE and did coexist with dinosaurs

and mauled them and death rolled them and ate them

[gritty heart]

Fair enough. I suppose

I’d like them (all aquatics) to scratch attackers just enough to deter ones that wouldn’t be able to grab on land, but not enough to harm big deinos in a serious way (or to make it so if the deino has full grab threshold it “totally” grabs it in a way it can’t resist)

[normal shuttle]

You buy this super detailed game where you can play as a badass giant crocodile or huge komodo dragon and you choose to play as a dorky dino?

[thick summit]

https://tenor.com/view/hatsune-miku-miku-hatsune-miku-angry-not-happy-gif-10473291184535189680

Deinosuchus. is. an. Alligatorid.

[gritty heart]

Technically calling them crocs (but not crocodile) is fair since they are from crocodilia .

[thick summit]

both of us know they refer to it as crocodile

because big semi-aquatic reptile = crocodile

[gritty heart]

That’s a hilarious suggestion xd. I want to upvote it just because of the idea. But the devs should also add swaddling cloth

[normal shuttle]

k kid, and sucho took his girl

[merry ore]

Allosaurus carrying a 28% baby is like:
#general-feedback message

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message I think it's intended, to make it easier to spot players

#general-feedback message can also be exploited to massreport people you don't like

[ember flax]

@icy lion General feedback and you delete it?

These bugs have been reported for Months Devs still haven't done anything

And the hitboxes aren't even bugged

So how should that be a bug report?

Most of the stuff is hitboxes/Collision it's not actual bugs lol

[eternal moss]

ive literally never seen someone get 68 check marks in 20ish mins

[tame jetty]

@merry ore #general-feedback message I LOVE the carry young feedback! Can you please make for other species too? I love seeing it in life.
I really wished they already had offspring carrying in the game! We need it!!!! 😭🫂

[oblique fable]

#general-feedback message I feel like personally maybe not Allo due too the use of its arms in combat- meaning that an Allo player realistically wouldn't want to carry it due to it removing basically 2 out of the 3 offense/defense in its arsenal, but in general LOVE the idea of carrying babies

[ember flax]

28% allo is kinda big no?

25% grown cera is 450kg so a 28% Allo would be like 600kg

[oblique fable]

28% might be too big for sure, but honestly the idea of carrying babies should really go with super nomadic playstyles

[thick summit]

We dunno anything about allo's growth

[tame jetty]

Don't carry your young if you're going in compat, simple! Otherwise, his arm carry is perfect. ARG we need offsprjng carrying already! We've waited years

[oblique fable]

like Austro! (although its said to do so, some mods/devs iirc said it might not happen) :(

[gritty heart]

That was part of the balance in the post, removing those options

[oblique fable]

Well- I wouldn't want to bring it to combat XD but I mean that its just impratical in all senses imo

[gritty heart]

Imagine there is a herra about. With the baby in your arms the herra and hurt it

[oblique fable]

not saying its a bad idea, just idk how I feel about it using the arms

[tame jetty]

I love how he use his arms tbh. Fits allo perfect

[merry ore]

The Allosaurus will progressively suffer maximum speed nerf when Allo's baby has +20% Grown, as soon as it reaches 28% it will no longer be possible to carry it.

[gritty heart]

I feel the mechanic would be perfect for like bary and sucho too. Though it wouldn’t be as practical in the water Ofc, so possible less useful in practice

[normal shuttle]

@hallow kestrel yeah bro let's just pretend evaporation doesn't exist

energy isn't a thing

and water does not have hydrogen bonds either

it's all a solid with covalent bonds

[oblique fable]

Tbf, I get what they mean- it rains so much that honestly rather instead have it removed than its current state

its really unbearable at times, especially if your animal has terrible NV

[normal shuttle]

I'd only lower the sound a little since it can mask the sound of a stego herd on a stampede

[oblique fable]

(of course, the answer here is to limit it and make it less rainy but thats kinda obvious XD)

idm the masking of sound rn, its smart and can help planning hunts better

but despite that, it becomes really annoying despite the setting of the island being tropical

[merry ore]

Imagine seeing your father hunting a Cerato in real time boi.

[golden horizon]

#general-feedback message maia is a high skillcap dino, knowing when to switch stance and timing your attacks are crucial, i recommend watching prichieee combat guide on maia

[oblique fable]

it should not rain once a day on average XD longest amount of time I had without rain was 2-3 days

[oblique fable]

^^^

just to add onto this, It relies heavily on players timing with offense/defense ngl

I've had little fights with Maia sadly- but the few I had really taught me to be offensively defensive against few hunters to defensively offensive when there's more

Maia is an absolute monster in the right hands, it can demolish many species as long as its played right- even its own predators can't stand much to it

[golden horizon]

Exactly it can be tough in the beginning learning all it's diffrent attacks and how they combo with eachother, but once you get a hang of it, it can reck havoc on anything below teno. I've defended succesfully against omnipack, dilos, carno and managed to win 1v1 with fg ceras, but the hardest part is prolly multiple ceras, since they can make you vomit multiple times. But the great thing about maia, is that you don't have to fight ceras

[merry ore]

I'll think about it