general-feedback-discussion

[barren zephyr]

why dont u want a mixpacking debuff

prolly ur mixpacking

[jovial hazel]

🤣

We caught a mixpacker.

[midnight heath]

Typically any of the "suggestions" to fix mixpacking via de-buffs don't work, if you had a new idea I'm all ears.

[limber hull]

i dont mixpack lol, i just don't want mixpackers to end up using a "debuff" to make their mixpacking easier

tell me what mixpack debuffs you'd gives, because all of them that i've heard make mixpackers stronger

[lapis swallow]

Nukes

it kills everyone, but the mixpackers are gone too

[jovial hazel]

Yeah, I could abuse that.

[barren zephyr]

doesnt debuff mean make smth against mixpacking

[limber hull]

it can also be used for it

[barren zephyr]

yh thats what i meant

[barren zephyr]

i just wanted to add smth that weakens mixpacking

like stress and stuff

[limber hull]

stress would be used for mixpacking lol

[jovial hazel]

Literally everyone's first solution to mixpacking is debuffs. But if you stop and think about it, every debuff can just be used as a weapon against legit players as much as mixpackers.

[lapis swallow]

but those debuffs can be used to help mixpackers

[urban flax]

It's time for THE LIST

[lapis swallow]

Oh god

[urban flax]

9 reasons why stress debuffs are bad (Bubulblu's mixpacking List) :

1. Griefers can and will continue griefing even with debuffs, unless they lead to death, which would pose a much bigger problem.
2. Depending on the range and timing of debuffs occuring, players can abuse them by regularly getting away from each other and continue griefing.
3. It ruins prolonged fights. Some fights in the game can last for 30+ minutes, but the game cannot tell the difference between a fight where no one hits each other for some time and mixpacking.
4. Mixpacking isn't necessarily an issue. There is nothing wrong with a group of small dinos hanging around a larger one who they know cannot catch them.
5. Temporary alliances can be fine. Two groups of predators can hunt the same prey and decide to help each other until said prey is dead, or two prey animals could stand side-by-side to defeat a powerful predator, without being necessarily griefers. The point of the game is to maximize your chances of survival.
6. It promotes deathmatch gameplay instead of survival, by forcing players to either run away or kill anything that isn't their own species.
7. A fast dino can purposefully debuff a slower one by following it and causing debuffs. Again, griefers don't care if they're being debuffed.
8. It ruins hiding. In a jungle or near water, two players can be very close to each other without being aware of each other's presence. Debuffs occuring would give them away to each other.
9. Stress implies forcing psychological reactions on a player, which is a bad thing to do in a horror game. A dino has no reason to be stressed or afraid if the player controlling it isn't. The game should try to scare off the player themselves, not their character.

[jovial hazel]

👍

[boreal vessel]

Holy f##} man… an adult deino simply should not be able to grab a full frown cera / carno and just hold it there unlimited …. Wild man

[urban flax]

rejoice
That specific part of deino will be buffed

[boreal vessel]

I get that it’s 8 tons and massive… but so is the carno? A Carno is 30’ long and 13’ tall… crazy to me that it can grab me, drag me under water and hold me there .. surely with a smaller prey like Dilo, or a sub / juvi carno for sure.

But adults should get a better chance of escape

[urban flax]

I mean
Carno is under 2 tons
It's not really a matter of visual size but weight

[boreal vessel]

Yeah I know

I just find is so bizarre lol!

When you look at deino next to an adult carno you ask how

[urban flax]

It would be virtually impossible to calculate and take the visual size of dinos into account for that kind of interaction

[boreal vessel]

And don’t get my wrong, I love my deinos… I have 2 grown lol but I’m trying to figure it out how we can make it more fair

[urban flax]

Probbaly if it was possible to detect before you are in its mouth

[boreal vessel]

No no I don’t want to take away from stealth… that’s awesome

[urban flax]

But that's what makes it so unfair

[boreal vessel]

But when I’ve been deino I seemed to lose stamina rather quickly, the larger prey I have in my mouth

This guy held onto me for ever

[urban flax]

The only way to know if there is a deino right under the water if it purposely left obvious hints

[boreal vessel]

Yea, bones, bait or the eyes now give it away at times…

[urban flax]

Deino is kinda flawed by design

[boreal vessel]

But I just feel like, with the mass a Carno possess’ + being A adult… deinos shouldn’t be able to just man handle us so easily

IDK

[fluid marlin]

Is it just me or you too, when I die it's not because of other players but 90% because of bugs

[little frost]

A significant portion of my deaths are to other players or suicide. I might have issues with the game but the bugs aren't what kill me

[fluid marlin]

okay

i was 100% croc then i got kick 5 times in 10 mins and i drown to death cuz i could not move and got kickt after

[worn kraken]

Silly question probably, but what could be done to really tackle cheaters in this game? I never play and this evening I had to log out at some point because a cheating pachy was so annoying that the game wasn’t even enjoyable. It was using speed hack and constantly knew where I was. Isn’t there any possibility to permanently ban these people and force them to buy the game again for example?

[icy lion]

Check the pinned messages in the official server channels to see how to report hackers

[desert arch]

Every time a hacker is caught their account gets permanently banned. But the thing is, most hackers have dozens of accounts, so its not that easy to eliminate them all.

[regal stump]

They should make a code or script that player can click or type in) and then it will teleport them 5meters back from where they came from. If players abuse this add a cooledown to it. This is for stuck players like myself

Would save soo much time

[desert arch]

Happy to i form you that an unstuck command is being worked on

[hybrid oxide]

Could we all read the devblog where it is said what are they already working on (like nights and bad weather not being so frequent, an unstuck option, controlling which diet slot gets filled, etc) so the feedback channel is not full of comments asking for the same things over and over, which they already said they are working on?

[regal stump]

about damn time🤣

[limber hull]

no read, only demand

[urban flax]

#general-feedback message
"add more dinos"
"game is dying"
"stop working on humans"
BINGO !!!

[desert arch]

"currently the game is not balanced with the few carnivores against the grass" theres like twice as many carnivore species than herbies

[urban flax]

I'm not sure if "the grass" refers to the weak and puny grass-eaters (h*rbivores) or to the grass itself
Implying carnivores have to fight against literal grass, and that there isn't enough of them for that

[desert arch]

[jovial hazel]

The overpowered herbivores farming the poor carnivores to feed their grass.

[bold mason]

dinos will only unbalance the game more, let the devs do their thing

[urban flax]

That ain't the problem
Dinos are in the works
Mechanics, too
And humans
None of them slowing down the process of adding each other
Because it's a development team, not a single person

[bold mason]

correct?

[normal lotus]

@versed gyro if I may say, the problem isn't the lack of dinosaurs. It's that the dinosaurs are incomplete due to no mutations or elder. Among other features.

Besides developing dinosaurs takes time anyway with how things are as is.

[tired flame]

@fathom moth Yes we updated the carnivores diets 👍

[wise zinc]

Right now?

[normal lotus]

Likely not rn.

But probably in the next update

[wise zinc]

Oh ok ty

[fathom moth]

did i just miss it in the dev update?

[bold mason]

@molten lily you always spawn south of the lake. If you run straight north you will ALWAYS get to the water access well before you dehydrate/run out of stam. Also try using this map, you can check your cords and find your way much easier https://www.islemaps.com/

[molten lily]

Thanks, i do still think they should fix how far you spawn though

[bold mason]

change would be a better word, it would help newer players forsure, but once i realized this i have had 0 issues getting to water access and I play a lot of croc lives.

[crystal minnow]

@wintry whale would be a dope idea. But the reason they removed it was because the game and devs got roasted too hard.

[wintry whale]

Add stricter rules, keep it about the game and not the developers

[worthy plover]

Hey people seem to be against allowing other dinos to see the glowing dulap of herrara when herrara displays it. Could anyone tell me why people are so against it.

Its not glowing all the time and has to be initiated by pressing f and left click i think. I dont understand why people are against seeing the glowing dulaps when herraras display them. I think it would make the game a bit more atmospheric

Whenever i suggest it, people seem to not like it and i cant think of a reason as to why

[cinder kayak]

Devs got roasted hard for what?

[icy lion]

The whole point of the dewlap glow is for silent communication. If everyone could see a bright glow when an ambush predator is communicating...

[worthy plover]

That makes sense thank you

[icy lion]

You wouldn't really be an ambush predator anymore

[worthy plover]

I just barely ever see it used when i play herrara, so i thought it was just an aesthetic thing

[icy lion]

Afaik the meme channel was removed since it was just filled with low/no-effort shlock and wasn't worth the time spent moderating it

This was before my time though

[cinder kayak]

If people are upset over the Macho Man dinos F+left click glow... it would be an ignorant opinion.

[graceful raven]

no i will not use #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 for issues i may find

havent played this game in months and basically none of the fundamental issues have been fixed

[still sinew]

you forgot crying about balance in a game that IS NOT a dino fighting game

[solid belfry]

@final kettle how did he get up there?

[final kettle]

i have no idea

[tight iron]

@somber elm i believe that someone in the dev team didn't want flashbang skins or smth

(fully white)

but if you choose yellow and put the saturation to zero you actually get white

[somber elm]

I do know they said they don’t want obscurely bright colours like a hot-pink deino, but I don’t think they’re against albino or melanistic skins, as it’s realistic for those colours to exist

[tight iron]

probably

[sage sonnet]

@hybrid mica bc of deinos constantly going in and out of water it was disturbing and i am one of them they can bring back the droplets but pls not for deinos

[worn kraken]

Am I the only person who thinks that the bite cool down time is a bad thing for the game? To me, a part from the time needed for the animation, it doesn’t even make sense at all logically

[radiant nest]

The animations need to be changed, but the system is there as a direct fix to a form of hacking that had been very prevalent for a while

[worn kraken]

That’s why I say that it doesn’t make sense logically. Instead of properly tackling hackers they damage the entire player base, with absolutely no consequences on the number of hackers which is constantly rising. It’s simply useless under every aspect…maybe someone prefers it this way, but it undoubtedly makes the game more boring and had zero effect on hackers

[radiant nest]

Well it did get rid of that type of hacking, so there’s that

[worn kraken]

People simply use other hackings. And the number of people cheating is dramatically increasing, mainly because it is difficult to catch them all, but also because very little is done to properly tackle them

[barren zephyr]

It got rid of the typing of hacking where you could get 2 shotted by a baby carno/omni, at least since they've added cooldowns its been beneficial

[worn kraken]

Never happened to me, but might be a case. It I think before implementing something like that, they should’ve considered something like “how many cases are there currently vs how many players play without hacking?”. Otherwise with the same logic the next step could be remove running so nobody uses speed hacking anymore

[barren zephyr]

It helps in the balance sense as well, for example dilo can constiently do 85 damage on a 1 sec cool down, which is unfair compared to its competiton

[normal lotus]

You could also adjust the cool down so it's the same as I was pre cool down patch? So that way it's the same. But the bite speed is hard coded and cannot be changed.

[urban flax]

@acoustic palm A 1st person camera for dinos was never planned

[foggy ether]

how do i change my fov im very new?

[urban flax]

I'm not sure what you mean
You can zoom in-out with mouse scrollwheel, but that's it

[daring wraith]

Another day of me demanding to make Allo a playable like yesterday.

Cause he smooth like a criminal.

[acoustic palm]

@urban flax what is the new camera gonna be then? Like 2nd person or something?

[wintry whale]

New camera thing is unkown because they've changed it since we last saw it, and it was closer to this:

[quiet agate]

@versed gyro you do realize it takes devs a very long time to design, and balance new dinosaurs, so the game doesn't become a hell hole. These devs are working really hard on the game, and trying to make it enjoyable as possible for us. Yes it might be taking a while for new dinosaurs to come, but thats bc they are trying their hardest to work on them. Please take that into consideration.

[acoustic palm]

That’s not bad at all! Hope it’s like this! I would even go for apex’s having closer camera angle for more of a apex nurf

[wise zinc]

@kindred forge im not sure about what i said but i think when the mutation will realese do a nest will help u reach the elder stad but im very noy sure

[icy lion]

@real mural Already being worked on

[full pewter]

Tbh I don’t even know if they’re committing to camera changes anymore, at least the April fools roadmap seems to imply this

Could easily be wrong though

[limber hull]

they likely still are

the cam changes are only on the roadmap so much because its the funniest possible thing they could've put there

[full pewter]

Perhaps, wonder if something will get released or hoardetested by the end of this month

[limber hull]

more than likely

not guaranteed, but likely

[real mural]

Good - I just spent a 24 hour cycle in the game in storms and dark. This is miserable and not fun.

This. Is. Not. Fun.

[limber hull]

this is cera in the next patch with overcast night

[full pewter]

Where did you get this image?

[limber hull]

Dondi

[full pewter]

Today?

[limber hull]

Yes

[full pewter]

Did he give out more images?

[full pewter]

I also like this👌

[urban bear]

When was this?

[limber hull]

Earlier today

[urban bear]

stream?

[limber hull]

Image

[urban bear]

Makes sense, dont think hes gonna stream for a long time after the Camera incident

[fallow marten]

#general-feedback message Ermm I agree with your statement. Gateway is a horrible map and should be erased immediately! 🤓 ☝️

[limber hull]

@stray cliff they technically already added first person lol, humans have it

dinos, however, have never once even been planned to get first person camera, and anything you've heard that says it was is wrong

[stray cliff]

oh ok good

i dont mind humans with first person but dinos

hell naw

[limber hull]

good news, there's never been a single first person camera for dinos

[stray cliff]

good

[limber hull]

even the controversial previews weren't first person

idk why people call it that

[stray cliff]

thx for telling me btw

[urban flax]

Purposeful spite

They want to get as many people to hate the idea as they can

[tight iron]

@kindred forge theres mutations only available for ppl who r nested in

[kindred forge]

yeah thats for mutations not patterns which isnt out yet 😄

[tight iron]

yep, however they should be out soon

[kindred forge]

yeah but I still recommend pattern variations it would just be more incentive 😄

[viral hare]

did they release dibbl? I am not asking for Eta ... I wanna know if its in the game right now

[boreal vessel]

@hidden pilot

Any reason to vote down reasonable feedback other than being a troll lol??

[urban flax]

It's not

[viral hare]

thank you 🙂 they should xD

Have a great day

[boreal vessel]

Ahhh yes, currently the largest apex carnivore this game has to offer " A mid tier " can only eat // diet from a Dinosaur literally 1 fraction of its weight, that does literally nothing.... even when you eat afull grown ceras intestines you get maybe 1/2 of a diet full... its unfair to the carno and a little disheartening to struggle so hard to maintain //

[normal lotus]

Put Dibble on line

[acoustic palm]

lol

[tight iron]

@thick panther my man appreciate some humor

#general-feedback message ummmmmmm

pachy is NOT supposed to survive a whole raptor pack

2 raptors should already be enough to kill one

[limber hull]

tbh, no

should it survive a whole raptor pack? No

should it keel over and die to 2 raptors? Also no

[thick panther]

Fanboys voting every critical feedback down... great job devs...

[lapis swallow]

do you really think they arent working on them?

like, just completely ignoring them?

[limber hull]

why are you blaming the devs for the so-called fanboys lmao

you can't even pick one group to be mad at lmao

[radiant nest]

I’m assuming they aren’t referring to the downvotes on their own feedback, as that post is completely unhelpful and demonstrates a lack of understanding of how the development works

[limber hull]

critical feedback implies it had any criticism besides "I don't like your jokes, fix the game", which is the epitome of unhelpful lmao

fix what? don't know.

[radiant nest]

I’m waiting for moderation channel to tell em to be specific in their feedback lol

[limber hull]

they'll take it as "devs can't take valid criticism" and make another "banned for making fair critique" post on reddit

[radiant nest]

Maybe, I can hope they have more sense than that

[limber hull]

they won't

[radiant nest]

I’m not gonna judge em for something that hasn’t happened yet

[tight iron]

<@&933486433342222376>

tank u

[urban flax]

Banned for telling the truth

[normal lotus]

@thick panther they...they are. Like, there's a whole QoL update in the works did you not read the devblog?

[wooden agate]

no reading, we only demand 😡😡😡😡

[barren zephyr]

dilophosaurus

[normal lotus]

I wonder if he gonna reply?

[wooden agate]

he wont lol

[solid belfry]

Isn't that a video they just happened to post on April fools? like it has nothing to do with an April fools gag

[icy lion]

The diablo one? Yea

[solid belfry]

Ohh they were referring to this #announcements message never even saw that tbh, kinda funny

[valid brook]

@split saddle Yesterday learned thats no longer a thing D: unless this one pumpkin was bugged

[split saddle]

i honestly believe making dilo line diet for carnivores would solve a lot of problems. obviously not to dilo diet as they get cani debuff

[split saddle]

really? i saw one earlier today that was busted open!

if i find one ill try it as im currently a pachy

[rough wind]

#general-feedback message
stop adding realism and start adding fun

some of these suggestions while realistic are only going to make the game annoying to play

[limber hull]

IDC if it's realistic, I care that it's a random chance debuff

The game has done well at not adding arbitrary chance-based mechanics thusfar

[valid brook]

yeah let me know if it works!

[limber hull]

#general-feedback message
I can't go back man, I can't do it again

They JUST made the hunger and thirst slower

[opaque inlet]

@vale ridge

I agree the AFK encouragement is awful. But, when I play, say, Teno, the fast water drain makes it a pain to travel anywhere, it limits where and how you can travel based off of where the water is.

I think, afk growing would be harder, if you couldn't HIDE so easily in bushes. Like, you sit down, stay still and stay quiet in a bush, and NO one can find you or necessarily suspect you're there.

But at the same time, if the ability to hide was taken away, so many creatures would suddenly be impossible to grow.

Growing a baby cera when you can't hide would be nigh impossible.

I would like the 'meta method of surviving' for weaker creatures, not to be afk in a bush. AFK in a bush is the meta for surviving childhood in the isle, it seems.

To do this we'd need to give them ANOTHER way to survive.

In real life, baby bears can climb trees, where cannibalistic male bears cannot (or can't as easily), allowing babies a way to escape. Same story for komodo dragons, using trees as babies but loose the ability to climb later.

The sanctuary was supposed to be this for babies,

But there is no food there...

Basically though, nature has other ways for babies to survive than 'afk in a bush,' especially because in nature, AFK in a bush doesn't work very well - they can smell you, and they can hear you breathing.
But the human players cannot smell other players and our hearing is human-level hearing, as well as our seeing ability. So, afk in a bush works great against humans, not always against real animals.

I think I'd like to see more food in the sanctuary somehow, for carnivores as well as herbivores. And I'd like to see more methods for creatures to survive. The current method is so boring.

Dryo's burrows are exciting and I was happy to see Herra's climbing.

[vale ridge]

yea the fear of being seen or hunted down while scratching out resources to grow is what makes that phase fun

but i end up just AFKing most of it because...once youre full you dont have to take any risks for 15 min at a time

id like some incentive to have to do something

[limber hull]

we've done the "fast hunger and thirst" thing before. It isn't fun, it sucks

Just makes adults more unbearable while nesting to stop juvis from AFKing

[split saddle]

can confirm i just busted open a pumpkin

[teal fulcrum]

#general-feedback message

More frequent actions = more interactions and less boredom
only it isn't.
very quickly it will become clear that constantly chasing food and water is even more exhausting than just sitting in bushes AFK. experience with food and water depletion has already been there and the players didn't like it.

[opaque inlet]

It's funny, growing herbivores back on Spiro, I would afk through the day and come out at night to eat plants.
The reason why, was because at night it was harder to see me. You can't hunt what you can't see/what you don't know is there.

Night time is scary to us humans, because in real life, many animals hear and smell better than we do, and see better at night than we do, giving them an advantage at long-distance detection. Meanwhile, humans have a disadvantage in long-distance detection at night, and as consequence, they see us before we see them, and so humans instinctively and historically have been more wary at night.

But in a video game full of human players, everyone has this disadvantage. Sure some dinos have worse night vision than others, but all have a pretty small bubble of detection around themselves.

Once I found out how to get food and water quietly, 'the fear of being found' wasn't really there and it just became exceptionally boring. Y'know what I'd like more than the 'fear of being found'/2% chance someone checks my bush or walks over to the quiet field I'm eating in?
I'd like ACTUALLY BEING FOUND but then also ACTUALLY HAVING A CHANCE against them somehow. I don't mind babies being disadvantaged though. Disadvantaged is proper I'd say, they haven't invested as much time into their dino (being a baby and all) and the adult could be starving. But having like, a method or a chance of survival would be nice too.

Right now, it feels like there isn't that much action, even in the hotspots. When I fly around as a ptera, most are hiding in bushes, and sneaking around, or crocs hiding under the water where things are happening that I can't see from the bird's eye view.
The action that DOES happen, I don't see nor experience many fair fights. The action is done fast, someone dies fast, often with little pushback.

[limber hull]

@tacit hill Cannibal carnos made megapacks very strong

[opaque inlet]

'Lots of afk, with rare occasional action where someone helplessly dies and looses 2 hours of progress with no control roughly every hour of afk'ing', has been most of my observation. But, I love the combat in the game, and I love the dinos.

Most of the helpless deaths are somewhat sensible one way or another. One was a baby and one was not. Or one was outnumbered. Or a deino got them.
I think, I'd like to see everything become a bit less helpless (somehow - this could be hard to do depending on the species.) And then make it harder to hide - I'd like to see more frequent action, and less afk'ing, but I'd like that action to be less helpless and I'd like to see both sides survive more often/or, to see longer, more fair fights more often, even if those fights aren't completely fair because their conditions (baby vs adult) were not fair to begin with.

[hidden mist]

@final kettle they are working on adding an unstuck command. You can read that in the devblog. (and sorry for probable ping, dunno how to turn that off in mobile version)

[midnight heath]

@full canopy The roster isn't ready for apexes, if rex/trike are put on the roster now they'll stomp genuinely everything on the list currently and nothing other than rex/trike will be able to effectively kill them. With the current issues like respawn timers not being a thing people will just spawn in free food and go AFK for 5 hours to grow their shiny new toy. If rex is anything like it was in Legacy it'll 1-tap just about everything we have with maybe steg/deino aside with one left click.

I do think it's weird that they're working on them at all personally.

[tacit hill]

@limber hull To some degree, but it would make the carno population go down, players would see carnotaurus on their diet and actually have a justified reason to kill other carnos and not feel guilty, and tbh carno in update 3 - 5 is more balanced then it is now

[midnight heath]

It would just make more carnos, the cannibalism issue is why deinos were so wide-spread on Spiro; it was easy food.

[limber hull]

U6 was when carno was in highest amount tbh

[urban flax]

Cannibalism is a buff

[midnight heath]

100%

I think for things like Rex it won't matter as much since the growth time will ideally be a bit.

[tacit hill]

Ew I can already Imagine sub rex mains again

[midnight heath]

I think rexes will be just as toxic as they used to be but who knows.

They always had weird egos

[tacit hill]

Legacy rex mains are just weird, they think abusing a broken hit box is skill

And don't even get me started on utahs

[midnight heath]

I couldn't get into rex honestly, giga was far more fun but I was a spino main. 10/10.

[tacit hill]

Either doctahs or sweat lords

Yea same for me, I liked giga so much more

The trot speed and the cool sounds did it for me

[midnight heath]

Giga was overall really well rounded for an apex

[limber hull]

Honestly, giga was stronger lol

[midnight heath]

If a giga got behind and just tailrode rex that was it

[limber hull]

IMHO, giga was far more OP than rex lol

[midnight heath]

Rex I think was only "good" because of BB

70% was insane

Also completely off-topic but I'm starting to think tenos are more aggro than pachys or stegs. The ones I've seen at least recently.

Both towards herbies and carnis

[barren zephyr]

I’ve only seen tenos be aggressive to ceratos because they know they can run them down

[midnight heath]

All 3 of my previous pachys were killed by tenos

I got chased by one as carno too earlier today but it couldn't catch me but it did in fact try

[valid brook]

okay. well this pumpkin just didnt like me! lmao

[dry falcon]

It also had this weird hitbox which could slap tailriders if you constantly were moving to the left

[nova wasp]

I'm against better night vision for deino in terms of the range because a deino shouldnt be able to guard a whole sea, because if there is 2 deinos only, noone would be able to drink anymore

[midnight heath]

I don't think you're aware of how bad it is

This is deino NV when at the surface

Underwater NV is hit or miss, some areas you can see fine and in others not at all.

[nova wasp]

underwater night vision, yeah improve it. But you obviously got to swim to the shore to see things.. Maybe just a very little improvement so you can see like 3 Meters with NV

[nova wasp]

Even though you're in the middle of the water

[midnight heath]

Some areas seem completely fine which is strange though, it's 2 AM in this image and the water is bright but for whatever reason in some areas it's just super dark. Water access is impossible to see through.

[tight iron]

@final lotus unfortunately it aint coming back

[final lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-icemav-top-gun-maverick-top-gun-maverick-funeral-funeral-gif-26848803

[split saddle]

if a single ram drops you to 40-60% stam, you are ramming for way too long of a time. ive gotten like 6-8 rams as well as running before coming to zero stam in a fight

[hexed anchor]

Hard agree on the deino rumbling. It makes no sense for them to be making noise underwater.

[dense plover]

Why the hell does dilo hallucinations do damage? This is absurd

I can't think of any logical reason for this being a thing

Absolutely idiotic

[solid belfry]

I don't think dilo phantoms need to do damage anymore with how incredibly overtuned its basic kit is above every other land carni

[burnt bone]

The main idea is that most phantoms won’t hit because you can either juke them or hit them to make them fade out. But currently neither really works because latency

[dense plover]

Still doesn't change the fact a psychological attack afflicts physical injuries

[solid belfry]

You can't juke them, they're programmed to run straight at you without any deviation

[burnt bone]

It’s more of a manifestation of the venom that’s hurting you.

[dense plover]

Exactly, there's legit no way to evade them, all you can do is hit them to make them fade but before that they'll likely get a hit on you

[solid belfry]

Yeah 20/20 times they will trade hits with you, usually a headshot because youre forced to bite them

[dense plover]

So dilo's just supposed to one-up troodon in every way or what?

That just seems silly and extremely overpowered

I feel like they have some creatures they love and give all kinds of gimmicks and game breaking features while others are just left in the dust

[burnt bone]

Troodon is getting venom buffs apparently so it will be put more in line with dilo.

[dense plover]

Carno can't even knock down other creatures anymore but this guy can both cause hallucinations and deal free damage?

[dense plover]

No, troodon is fine where it is right now, they shouldn't upcharge other dinos they should just nerf dilo

[solid belfry]

Don't forget the extremely high dps it gets for a 700 kg animal. Without venom in the equation, it nearly matches dps of animals twice its size

[dense plover]

Exactly, I've played quite a bit of Troodon and I once killed a 500-600kg carno, granted I played well that time and didn't miss a single pounce

That's how the game is supposed to be, skill based. What Dilo is right now has nothing to do with skill

[floral spire]

I like to think about it like this: the damage from Dilos hallucinations is just the venom damaging you, but since it makes you hallucinate, your creature thinks that it's being attacked, when in reality it's just being damaged by the venom. Similar to feeling pain in a dream, then waking up to find that something fell on you in the night.

[dense plover]

Still doesn't change the fact it's overpowered

[floral spire]

I never said it wasn't!

I've fought a full grown Dilo as a 60% Carno and almost lost, I was less than 10% Health. For something that is meant to be a pack animal, it is pretty strong. But if you know what your doing you can win.

[jovial hazel]

Pachy is one of the playables that shouldn't ever be faster than its adult speed. You're almost stronger while growing because of the speed boost which actually starts pretty small.

[tight iron]

indeed

dilo is the biggest no skill thing

the other day i was playing it, a carno attacked me, i spammed left click while he had the bite cooldown, put him to purple, ran away while spamming clones taking advantage of him being blind

[arctic imp]

@fading shadow yeah the dumb thing is, irl alligators/crocodiles have some of the best vision in the animal kingdom

I could imagine an apex predator like a deino would have even better vision

[dense plover]

Yup, this is exactly what happens to me all the time. An easy solution is to add a cooldown to the venom so that you can only apply stacks once per 5-10 seconds

[tight iron]

i personally believe that what dilo needs is a big nerf to its venom (remove blindness) and a speed nerf

mfer is faster than a raptor, i don't think i have to explain why that doesn't work

and also it being able to blind others is absolutely insane

ive never seen such a stupid creature

well either remove blindness or clones as a whole

[dense plover]

Nah just remove the damage and everything is fine

[tight iron]

faster than a pachy but def not faster than a raptor

[dense plover]

Also make it slower, cause the fact it's faster than a raptor is broken

[tight iron]

yes

[dense plover]

It's faster than pachy and utah, it's more agile than carno, it has a completely broken venom system and it blinds you

[tight iron]

tis totally fine

it outruns everything but carnos

[dense plover]

Yeah man definitely, and while they were at it they also decided to nerf every other creature, like carno's charge

[tight iron]

i just find dilo to be the stupidest creature ever

[dense plover]

Well, I just hope they make some changes before they release diablo

What's the point of having a shield for a head when hallucinations can just bypass it

[tight iron]

how does it make sense for this thing to run at 47.5 km/h be able to completely blind you make you unable to smell and remotely kill you

all of these things can be activated by 1 good landed bite

the isle gaming: go around, hear dilos, go the opposite way

btw they're practically invisible during night

if you have a black skin you are completely invis to dinos with bad nv

[dense plover]

And this is all if there's 1, if there's more then you're just completely screwed

[tight iron]

stegos and ceras cant see u

they can hear u but still

the only time i hunt using my ears and not eyes is when im chasing someone in a forest

at that point i just completely stop using my eyes and only use my ears

i shouldnt have to do that as well in the rare occasion that im playing cera cause the most op dino in the game is also invis for me

dilo gaming: run at someone at 9000mph spam bite spam clones till he dies repeat till everyone in the server has died at least once

@frail prawn uh tail nibbles do practically zero damage you got lag hit

like a stego swing at the tail of a raptor puts it to yellow

^^ fully grown stego

however you can literally get 1 tapped by a carno at the tail cause they r bugged like hell

[frail prawn]

I've just watched a vid of someone playing Dilo without lagging getting nipped on the tip of his tail and put on orange from a cerato and I've had it happen to me, it may be lag or it could just be getting the base of the tail confused with the tip of the tail.

[solid belfry]

dilo is the only creature I've legitimately felt bad killing full grown players with because I did basically nothing and the game asked nothing from me to kill them. I've solod countless fg ceras in one life by facetanking at night to purple and spamming rmb while running away. the game played itself, it's actually pretty ridiculous. zero checks or balances for how abusive the venom mechanic is other than omnis jumping on rocks.

[tight iron]

that's weird, i was in a pvp server today training raptor vs stego, got tail bonked with a swing and got put to yellow

he must've been suffering from at least a bit of desync

[tight iron]

indeed, the game does the job for u

just spam clones that can't be killed 👍

[frail prawn]

Not sure what counts as a lot of damage or not, but its highly confusing but I think it also depends on how much stamina or damage taken from the attacker that matters about damage?

[tight iron]

it just depends on the location

[solid belfry]

each creature has locational damage specific to that creature too though. IE I think pachy takes much more damage to its tail than teno (pretty certain, anyway)

[tight iron]

teno takes a lotta damage to its tail

[frail prawn]

Maybe, I still think it needs a bit lookin into, but you could be right, it could be horrible desync on both ends.

[frail prawn]

I guess Dilo is the same?

[tight iron]

yis

[solid belfry]

on the thick end I think you're right, but near the tip I've seen almost 0 damage happen in my experience

[tight iron]

oh yea the tip is absolutely nothing

thought you meant the start of the tail not the end

[desert arch]

If the cerato did an alt attack then it may have had the funny damage bug that makes it do 700 damage per bite

[frail prawn]

Aaah, that'd might have been what it was.

[final kettle]

thank god

[dense plover]

Where the hell is all the food? The migration zone for pachy is literally void of anything edible except for grass...

[fading shadow]

i mean realistically they should have baller status nv too

[wooden agate]

iirc its bugged slightly, you can fight back against the venom but they damage on insta contact which isnt intended iirc

[limber hull]

doesn't need both at once. Hell, both nerfs are unnecessary when those two tools help it's survivability more than its offense

i still dont understand your undying need to make dilo unplayable

is it OP? Sure. Does it deserve to be nerfed to a point where it's slower than a raptor, while also being less agile than a raptor, and having no jump while a raptor does? Not really

[molten lily]

#general-feedback message @slim halo I do agree with the dilo, but utah and troo already have a reasonible bite speed

[slim halo]

troodon bite cooldown is insane

[limber hull]

Ehhh

They're pretty obnoxiously slow

[slim halo]

its a troodon.

[slim halo]

...??

troodon isnt slow?? guhh..

[limber hull]

The bite

[molten lily]

thats what were talking about-?

[slim halo]

what

[limber hull]

How is this confusing

The bite is obnxiously slow on omni and troodon

[slim halo]

you didnt reply to either of us

so I was confused

[molten lily]

you didnt specify thats why i was confused lol

[slim halo]

fr like what 😭

[molten lily]

But i think that utah should do a bit more damage like 5+ more? and troodon should have a much quicker since its one shot to half of the playable species

[limber hull]

anyway, point is, the reason the bite on omni and troodon (and carno too) is so slow is because of how the bite cooldown works. It's based ENTIRELY off animation time, and ESPECIALLY omni has a really long animation after the bite where it resets its stance back to normal, and in that entire time, it cannot bite

[limber hull]

Omni already does ABSURDLY high bite damage for its size, that buff isn't really something it needs

[slim halo]

they needa add pouncing from the back

unless ur a stego or teno or sum

[barren crater]

That’s coming back

[slim halo]

thank god bruh

pouncing on the side is insanely hard and when you do pounce it kicks you off for no reason

[slim halo]

also 🤓

[limber hull]

My brother in Christ you are the one who wants the faster bitespeed on omni lol

[slim halo]

🤓

[limber hull]

TF did I even do lol

[slim halo]

🤓

[limber hull]

Baffling

[slim halo]

the fact that its based on the animation

I feel like and I might be stoned for this, really stupid with not enough thought

[molten lily]

Raptor is a pretty even Dino already tbh

[slim halo]

its kinda ass rn ngl

its bleed is ok

[molten lily]

Ur just crap at it then

[slim halo]

its pounce is just, eh, and dilo just runs it down

[molten lily]

Your probably playing solo lol

[limber hull]

It is. The addition of backpounce + pounce-to-pin next update might make it OP again lol

[molten lily]

Yeah

[slim halo]

pounce to pin?

[molten lily]

You use the pounce and pin something

[slim halo]

dude I pounce on the side and game kicks me off almost 99% of the time thats not on me

[slim halo]

... doesnt that already exist?

[molten lily]

Yeah something is buggy rn

It does

[slim halo]

then..

[molten lily]

Idk I think that’s what it is

[slim halo]

bro isnt sure 😭

[molten lily]

Or it’s when multiple utahs gang up on something

[limber hull]

Omniraptors can pin larger targets with enough raptors after reducing the larger target's stam and HP in coming updates

For example, we've seen them able to pin even stego

[molten lily]

Yeah thought so

[slim halo]

pin stego???

[molten lily]

Yes

[slim halo]

that seems like alot of utahs then

[molten lily]

I if it’s low stam I think

[limber hull]

It's a lot of raptors, yes, and they need to reduce the stego's stam and health

[slim halo]

are they also adding better deino brawling

or is it just whoever decides to be a fatty mcfatbutt first

[limber hull]

I have no idea if there's an upper limit. From what we know, it could even happen to rex or trike

[slim halo]

that'd be unfair

[limber hull]

I don't think there's any plans for that lol

[slim halo]

omggg 😭

[limber hull]

If it can happen to stego, I think we've gone well-past the region of unfairness lol

Would probably require you to weaken the rex/trike a ton tho for it to even happen

[slim halo]

isnt stego 6 tons or sum

[limber hull]

Ya

[slim halo]

damn deino fat asf

I think stego gotta be atleast like 10-20% health cuz bruh

megapack + verge of death stego seems

reasonable?

WAIT!!!!

arent they gonna add the actual utahraptor, instead of bootleg bald raptor

[limber hull]

yes

[slim halo]

so what about omniraptor

[limber hull]

it'll be a different animal with different stats and stuff

omniraptor is still omniraptor

[slim halo]

NAAHH REALLY??? 🤯

[limber hull]

well, one isn't replacing the other

[slim halo]

NAAHH RELLYYY?!!??!?!! 🤯

[limber hull]

lots of people assume it'll be an omniraptor reskin lol

idk why you're being so weird lol

[slim halo]

thats like making trice diablo reskin

[slim halo]

ur weird..

[molten lily]

Uhm wrong chat bucks also what the actual hell

[barren zephyr]

@mystic parcel immune for how long..? Because I could be in a fight and just alt-f4 mid fight and act like it was a crash and the supposed people I was fighting can’t do anything about it

[limber hull]

you basically explained why it's a bad idea

alt+f4/kick the router to instantly combat log

[mystic parcel]

then whats yall suggestion because this game has the most crashes comapred to anyother game. i crashed 3 times in the span of 30 minutes. this game is heavily relied of growth time. it is not fair. so yea. if anything aslong as we didnt take any dmg for a certain amount of time and then crash, you wouldnt take dmg. and i have fine fps and ping. its just the game

[solid belfry]

this convo has me dying

[mystic parcel]

as long as you havent taken dmg from fighting fro x amount of time before ya crashed

[crude ridge]

why have i ran around the migration zone for 10 mins and 0 animals 0 bodies lmfao 0 sounds

[full pewter]

@limber hull aw cmon why not😆, just curious no need to take it seriously

@dawn goblet NV changes are already coming

[limber hull]

lots of our roster is unsuitable for those maps (herrera immediately hops to mind)

[full pewter]

Tbh I think that’s partly the point, certain Dino’s will stand out more or less on these maps, and I don’t think it’s all that bad, provides unique experiences and challenges. For Herrera it would probably stay near savanna’s more often, there could be baobab trees. Oasis biomes would also be great for them since it would localize Dino’s more. Semi aquatics would also be encouraged to play in the ocean more

Gateway would essentially be the most balanced map, but arid and temperate maps provide unique challenges for those who want that kind of experience

Slot canyons would also be great for Herrera

[limber hull]

There's also trying to put a deinosuchus or ANY aquatics in an arid environment

Or a deino/mega in a temperate environment

[full pewter]

I have considered these, tbh I’d expect aquatics to hang more in the ocean than anything in an arid map, also doesn’t mean there isn’t lakes and rivers on an arid map, they’re just more scattered.

And for a temperate map I’m not entirely thinking of it as cold necessarily, that’s why I limited snow to high elevations. It could still be an overall warm climate like the southern USA, just not full on tropical. And there’s still lakes and rivers and swamps and such, think thenyaw and V3

Snowstorms and blizzards would appear as events out of the ordinary, like natural disasters

[urban flax]

What I dislike is the amount of very large AI you put there

Even... sea lions ? Pardon me if I'm wrong, but I thought they lived... in... the sea ?

[limber hull]

Water buffalo seems... Very strong

[urban flax]

nerf water buffalos they oneshotted my freshspawn omni

[limber hull]

The arid map just kinda obliterates most arboreals and aquatics

It also just destroys stealth gameplay for smalls

[tight iron]

pretty much yes

i see it as nonsense that dilo can outrun one of the fastest dinos

it's not because im a raptor main but because raptor is the 4th fastest dino

[limber hull]

"one of the fastest dinos"

my brother in christ it's not even a real dino

it LITERALLY does not exist

[tight iron]

tis a rename of the utahraptor smh

[limber hull]

it isnt

[tight iron]

and even then im speaking about the fake

[limber hull]

the utahraptor is a different animal being added later

[tight iron]

game*

[limber hull]

omniraptor is entirely its own thing

[tight iron]

so yes in the game it's the 4th fastest dino

[limber hull]

and?

[tight iron]

making dilo slower than a raptor doesn't make it unplayable

[limber hull]

it makes it very unviable

[tight iron]

what would make it unplayable is completely removing the venom and making it slow as heck

no it doesn't it'd be op as heck still

dilo doesn't need to be fast as absolute hecc to be viable

[limber hull]

it really would not be OP if slower than raptor, ESPECIALLY with raptor's coming changes

[tight iron]

well, you know, not everything must have a way to defend itself

bad luck happens and you die

[wooden agate]

????????

[wooden agate]

???????

[tight iron]

sounded very wrong

[wooden agate]

yeah i just got here so im assuming this out of context

[limber hull]

This type of thinking is what makes the game unfun lol

[tight iron]

what i mean is not everything needs a way to defend itself from every possible threat in existence

[wooden agate]

i dont entirely agree but i dont entirely disagree

[limber hull]

It ideally should have an answer to every other creature though

If that answer isn't fight, it's flee

[tight iron]

it is quite literally a survival game, if you find 35 raptors you're dead and you can't do anything

[limber hull]

Sure. But at least let the dilo run

[tight iron]

why only dilo and not all then?

[wooden agate]

if you cant fight it, you should be able to get away from it

if you cant get away from it, you should be able to defend yourself rather well

if you cant get away or flee, you would have to rely on more mechanical features like burrowing etc

[limber hull]

Because dilo has less combat options in that scenario

An anky doesn't need to run from 35 raptors, it probably would still win lol

[tight iron]

nothing has good combat options against 5 raptors about to pin it

at least currently

your point that it makes the game unfun is true, however it's the most basic principle of nature, the reason why animals hide all the time

if you get spotted, you're pretty much dead

so don't get spotted

[limber hull]

i dont know why your obsession isnt the INSANELY HIGH damage values on venom for freewith a very slight cooldown, but instead the speed that allows dilo to flee threats and move

why not hit the ACTUAL problem, then attack dilo's base survivability, besides the fact that you want raptor to be MUCH better at killing them, which is the only justification I can find

[tight iron]

because if you can run away from it you don't have to worry about it

[limber hull]

you can already jump away from it or swim away, it can't jump and swims like a rock

[tight iron]

swims fast

and not talking about raptor rn

[limber hull]

you can also duke the hell out of it due to its very poor agility

[tight iron]

yes but this is not centered about raptor

this is centered on all dinos

only galli and carno can say "im out"

raptor has to say "alr watch this mfer" and proceed to troll the heck outta it

pachy can commit bone break, but what if it's 2 or more?

if it's 2, i mean you can still do it

but 3 is a death sentence cause you got spotted

it's bad luck, if you get spotted by something or someone that can easily overpower you and is there to kill you, such as 3 dilos after a pachy, it's over

[limber hull]

pachy still has fracture, the ability to jump, better agility, etc

it has a chance. Unlike dilo, who has garbage defensive capabilities due to its poor agility and terrible flank defense

[tight iron]

pachy's agility is not a good defense against doll

dilo*

it is agile and that is correct, but dilo isn't a boat, it can turn well enough to kill the pachy in seconds

[limber hull]

(so nerf the damage, not the speed, because dilo's damage is far more oppressive and needing of changes with how its venom works)

[tight iron]

honestly id say both but i don't feel like discussing this whole thing again

agree to disagree 🤷‍♂️

[limber hull]

why do you insist on balancing with the hammer instead of the wrench

it doesn't need to have two vital stats taken down at once

[tight iron]

a small speed nerf does nothing to dilo

raptor ain't got a chance against it anyways and when it gets pin thing it's not gonna be instant

by the time the dilo is tired enough the whole pack is dead

[limber hull]

i feel like you overestimate dilo a great deal lol

[tight iron]

maybe it's your vision and my vision of it that are way different

that would answer why we disagree so much

[limber hull]

i personally see dilo as an animal that's absolutely overtuned, but not to a degree of say, U3.75 deino, or U6 carno (who was only that strong because of a bug) or U6.5 cerato

[tight iron]

however to defend my point, there's a good reason why when night falls and dilos are heard, stegos log off, raptors and pachies get in caves, ceras hide in bushes or log off and more

[tight iron]

oh well, i see it as the most mentally insane thing ever created

i want it to have a spot in the chain

[urban flax]

Yes that's because they have no nightvision

[limber hull]

oh, compared to other "OP animals"? It's very tame

[tight iron]

just not that spot

[tight iron]

no nv and no chance

[limber hull]

in the Isle's history, it's def not near the greats of "legitimately gamebreaking broken"

[tight iron]

i find it to be there if not knocking already on the door

[limber hull]

nah, it's too killable

[tight iron]

for ceras and carnos it's an easy meal i can't disagree

[urban flax]

Remember that time when deino could facetank stegos by biting their ass

[tight iron]

LOL

[limber hull]

remember the time pachy could kill carnos solo, very easily

remember when teno ALWAYS lost against pachy, no matter what

[tight iron]

absolutely game breaking bug

[limber hull]

was not a bug

[tight iron]

tf

[limber hull]

remember when cera could run down the entire roster, and also make them incapable of attacking while they constantly vomit due to animation lock

[tight iron]

@tawdry swallow i think they're gonna release the patch pretty soon

thing is they don't release many patches because iirc the code is dumb as hell and can break for no reason

[wooden agate]

@stray cliff spiro isnt come back

unless it's modded i'm

in*

[stray cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-james-you-are-my-sunshine-tiktok-good-side-holy-gif-1666146645093941717

[limber hull]

I personally don't want 2x longer downloads so thank God it's not coming back :)

[midnight heath]

But the grass, you're forgetting the long plains of rendering and de-rendering grass

[edgy summit]

#general-feedback message only make rain shorter, nights are fine

Dilos need their fun too

[limber hull]

They're going to increase the overall brightness during weather event

[full pewter]

@limber hull @urban flax Arid maps also don’t mean stealth is eliminated or reduced. Savanna’s often have tall grass to hide in, slot canyons have rocks and crevices and such. And there’s plenty of large shrubs in shrublands and tropical deserts. The main difference would be that trees are more localized

And I thought of possibly exploring larger AI options like water buffalo and camels that may be more relevant for larger carnivores, but nothing larger than these, who are still only the size of pachys

[radiant nest]

@knotty frigate that’s not how development works, they won’t release it sooner because you simply want them to. Besides, remember what happened with the dilo/herrera update? I’d rather them take their time to make it good rather than give us something unfinished and terrible. But I do understand your pov, I’m also really hyped for the updates coming up soon and have been waiting to play until they happen.

[tight iron]

white dinos without skin or animations, sounds good

[radiant nest]

Thankfully Diablo isn’t that early in development lol

[knotty frigate]

Yes but its been like 3+ months bro, at this rate its never gonna get better and the updates they release after such long time arent even that big, maybe the team is too small idk. I just want my money back

[tight iron]

releasing them early won't fix anything, it'll make the game suck even more

[full pewter]

I’d rather be patient and get something good than get it faster and more broken

[knotty frigate]

they just gotta be quicker and get bigger team, this is not going anywhere

[radiant nest]

It’s been around 3 months I think, and that’s actually a fairly good time for the next update coming soon, as it has a lot of very important fixes and tweaks

[tight iron]

the team is big already tho

aint there like close to if not over 20 devs?

not all devs are in this discord tho

so yea it's not really an issue of being big but a speed issue, perhaps experimenting too much was a pretty bad idea

[full pewter]

They have been looking for new hires iirc

[radiant nest]

I mean personally I don’t mind the pace of updates recently, the quality of some aspects is decent enough to warrant it

[knotty frigate]

they prob spend too much time making design perfecct aswell, while overall gameplay is more important, which feels incomplete, at least for me

[radiant nest]

But yeah this next qol update is gonna be really nice

[tight iron]

you are right, the game is in early access tho

[full pewter]

We’ve actually gotten a ton of updates since gateway released, at least when compared to the usual pace before, I think we should appreciate that

[radiant nest]

The design comes before correcting gameplay from a development standpoint

[tight iron]

i'm not saying you ain't right with your complaints because you definetely are, but some aspects are uh a lil too far

[knotty frigate]

Take a look at ark, you can wonder around the world for hours. In this game, It gets boring after 30 min, for me atleast

[queen mortar]

we know

[knotty frigate]

It's just missing something...

[queen mortar]

we know

[full pewter]

Doesn’t ark have a higher budget and bigger team?

[queen mortar]

yes

[tight iron]

strange, it doesn't get boring for me pretty much

[radiant nest]

That’s why I take screenshots sometimes to pass the time. But yeah, that’s a major issue the devs are currently working on

[tight iron]

that might be cause im with a literal 6 member organized raptor pack in a discord vc but

^^ absolutely destroying everything that we come across

[radiant nest]

Playing with people makes it a lot better

[tight iron]

absolutely

[radiant nest]

I play solo so it can certainly get boring

[tight iron]

never thought i could spend 6 hours straight without even realizing time was passing

but that's not the common thing so i can't blame you for that

[knotty frigate]

maybe its cuz im playing solo a lot idk

[tight iron]

usually you play solo

[radiant nest]

Probably yeah

[tight iron]

yep, however you ain't obligated to play in a vc so

[radiant nest]

Can’t wait for the activities that the devs have planned for while growing and such

[full pewter]

Addressing a lot of these complaints, the isle will get more biomes which will help make the island less boring, and mutations will give you something to do outside of combat since some need to be unlocked by completing certain tasks

[knotty frigate]

Yeah, but the game world just lacks a bit more dynamism, which doesn't necessarily depend on the size of the team...

[tight iron]

honestly sucks to say this but you gotta wait more for the update

[knotty frigate]

Are they gonna release parimeters in next update also?

[tight iron]

ive worked with development, releasing a bad update is the worst thing you can do

[knotty frigate]

or idk what they are called, the big buildings

[full pewter]

To that i say it’s cause it’s early in development, gateway will continuously get changed over time

[knotty frigate]

Yeah, only problem is the time its taking them

I bought this game quite a while back, and tbh, it hasnt really gotten better a lot. Maybe a little

[radiant nest]

The domes and perimeter? No, not yet probably. They’re working less on the human stuff rn and more on the Dino stuff

[knotty frigate]

we gonna have humans in next update then?

[full pewter]

A lot of the work rn is being put into QOL changes to hopefully just improve the experience we have now. I see this as the response for people asking for an update devoted to improving performance and such

[radiant nest]

Next update is a bunch of qol stuff, then Diablo soon tm after

[full pewter]

Also getting core playables like Diablo and Maia out who will be very important to establishing others like them

[knotty frigate]

alr, hopefully the update wont take another 3 months...

[normal lotus]

If Dibble somehow pulls it off it could MAYBE come with the QoL

[radiant nest]

I’m guessing we get the qol this month

[knotty frigate]

that'd be nice

[full pewter]

🙏

[radiant nest]

Yeah, especially with the fact we got the dibble vid

[knotty frigate]

I'll wait bit longer but otherwise I'll prob delete the game

if it doesnt get better

[radiant nest]

You do you

[full pewter]

I’d argue the game is in the best state it’s ever been, minus everything about east plains…

[radiant nest]

East plains is still like the least oppressive hot spot we’ve had

[limber hull]

still dont like it >:(

[normal lotus]

Honestly I'd rather the hotspot be highlands. It much more beautiful and has good hiding spots. You can also aways just enter the plains of highlands to get away from the hustle and bustle.

[limber hull]

id rather the lack thereof of hotspots

because i've lived through highlands hotspot

its not as good as you make it out to be

[normal lotus]

Fair. Though at the very least. The herbis will interact with the carnivores. At least some of them will

@lyric pollen my man you COOKED

[radiant nest]

I agree, it was a nice hotspot during hordetest, but yeah no permanent hotspots is obviously better

[lyric pollen]

thank you

[tropic matrix]

#general-feedback message Just wanted to clarify what i meant here a bit better. Walking up to latch on shouldn't be the same volume as jumping from tree to tree.
If it was quiet it would make sneaking on the floors then up trees for an ambush much more enjoyable and easier without giving a dead giveaway a herrera is near you.
Thoughts?

[molten lily]

Now realisticly this would not make that much noise, yes it is annoying, but if your in the dinosuars position its gonna be a pain in the ass having to deal with a full grown herrara not only slam you but spam bite you silently.

[green wigeon]

Why are so many ppl against an ice age server with mammals?

[hot crypt]

That’s a different game entirely

[green wigeon]

kinda

[hot crypt]

I mean I could see a mod for it once mods are supported which is happening

[molten lily]

"kinda" That game would take several years to make??

[bold mason]

@quiet agate Just a tip: Deinos always spawn south of the water access lake. Just run north everytime u spawn and you will always end up at water before your stam/food runs out. Considder using https://www.islemaps.com/, all you need to do is click on the alt cord when you press tab and paste it into the map and see exactly where u need to go as a deino. The current spawns have drastically changed deino gameplay for the better IMO. Before when we had more spawns it just created a sesspool of a deino hot spot at north east lake. Now with just the one spawn we are much more spread out, still have access to the north if desired, and have time/space to actually plan/stalk kills.

[quiet agate]

But don't you think they should still spawn a little closer?

[bold mason]

Sure, but you suggested additional spawn points... but yeah i agree, closer to water access would be nice.

[slow copper]

@dense plover everything falls at the same rate irl assuming drag is the same

everything is accelerated at 9.8m/s^2

and i am not sure that the devs want to model the aerodynamics of the animals

[wooden agate]

@livid blade im sorry, its a little confusing so im asking for clarification. you want fractures caused by pachy's to last 30 seconds?

#general-feedback message

[livid blade]

Yes

[wooden agate]

that is possibly the worst idea ive ever heard

[livid blade]

Right now pachys are pretty OP. And i play them a lot. If you re a omni or dilo in a 1 vs 1 against pach you have no chances

[wooden agate]

so you nerf the thing that makes them pachy... into the ground?

[livid blade]

not into the ground

you balance it.

[wooden agate]

30 seconds is not balanced at all lol

[livid blade]

it is

[wooden agate]

that is a death sentence for pachy

takes away pretty much all consequence of engaging with pachy

[livid blade]

no, if you play it well.

keep him leg broken...

[wooden agate]

pachy is supposed to fracture and be able to run away. you shouldnt be encouraged to be fighting to the death

[livid blade]

death sentence is if you are an omni or dilo or even carno and get your leg broken...

Pachys are OP atm.

[wooden agate]

you act like its especially hard to dodge the pachy

[livid blade]

if you get caught once...its GG

no chance to scape

[wooden agate]

so you made a mistake and you die for it? its almost like its a survival game

interestingly there was pachy talk in #balance-feedback-discussion a little bit ago about this exact thing

[livid blade]

no, imagine you are drinkin water from a river and some pachy come to break your leg *this happens a lot and its very fun for the pachy)

i just think the pachy leg breakin should last way shorter. thats it

[wooden agate]

thats more so a player issue, not an animal issue. you dont cripple the entire animal because some people go around bonking others lol

[limber hull]

the fracture is supposed to be helpful for escaping. 30 seconds is some PoT type garbo lol

out of everything you could nerf about pachy, having a 30 second fracture not only is ridiculously unrealistic, it's also useless

[livid blade]

pssss whatever

still unbalanced

[limber hull]

not really lol

i haven't really been having nearly that much a problem with pachies lol

[livid blade]

you must normally play deino or stego i guess

or ptera xD

[limber hull]

i dont really like any of those animals

i've been playing mainly omni, troodon, dilo and herrera as of late

and some cera

[urban flax]

Says the stego main

[wooden agate]

i thought for a second i may have gone crazy but im glad other people see the inherent problems with it

[urban flax]

I know the game isn't supposed to be fully realistic
But it would literally take longer to fill your stomach than to recover from a broken leg xD

[midnight heath]

You can outrun pachy as most playables and their turn radius isn't great. I don't agree that it's OP.

If you get jumped while drinking that's not the fault of the pachy, it's a fault on the player not being wary enough of their surroundings and choosing to drink.

[normal lotus]

That's cuz...Omni isn't SUPPOSED TO ATTACK PACHY LIKE THAT. ITS INTENTIONAL

[sweet galleon]

Wdym? lol
I kill every pachy in a 1v1 as omni

[molten lily]

@craggy juniper Why did you dislike? 🤨

[craggy juniper]

I think having total darkness in the night is more realistic at times, I just don’t agree with it being perfectly clear to see things even during nighttime :]

[tight iron]

don't you think that it also kills the gameplay tho?

it's absolutely realistic but certain realism aspects gotta go to allow for fun, that's quite literally the point of playing da game

also whoever made it so if u say a bad word u get a 1 day mute oh my lord

wait wait wait hold on

[craggy juniper]

I honestly don’t think that it does - considering that it gives the game more ways to play, it allows for better ambushes, higher stealth, more refuge for juvis etc etc.

Having a dark night time doesn’t only make sense due to realism, it also lets you play in a totally different way.

One of the main reasons that I like The Isle soo much is because of how committed the developers are to make things fun and realistic at the same time, and my opinion is that realism is something really really big for the game.

[molten lily]

That dosent matter, it affects gameplay and its un-enjoyable and quite useless typically having me fall off a cliff

[tight iron]

ignore what i said, i thought you meant you wanted it to be zero vision

i just saw the post and i think that pachies see enough

[tight iron]

like turn off night vision style

[molten lily]

Its not the distance i see, its the fact that it goes pitch black lol

[tight iron]

i mean if it's raining or sum and you can't see anything, yea that's an issue, and it's also being fixed sooooo

but if it's uh a normal night yknow, i think we see enough

[molten lily]

If it was a "normal" night i wouldnt say anything 👁️ 👁️

[craggy juniper]

Oh, got you ! No - night vision is a great feature for the game imo - also considering that most other species have better vision during the night than we have, ESPECIALLY carnivores.

I could take some time to read more about how good the dinosaurs night vision was though, due because I don’t know THAT much about it

[tight iron]

yis

[molten lily]

wait is night vision style a setting?

[craggy juniper]

That’s what the night vision feature is for though! You always see a short distance in front of you no matter how dark it gets

[tight iron]

nope u just thought he meant he wished we didnt even have night vision

[molten lily]

Im confused asf now, I had said that it shouldnt be pitch black and he thinks its more realistic that way

[junior shuttle]

i think crocs should have way better night vision in general, for a nocturnal predator he should be able to see better than other dinos

[craggy juniper]

So, what I meant was that keeping the night as is, is the best alternative imo.

[normal lotus]

Fortunately that's being fixed from being pitch black during storms

[molten lily]

thank god

[urban flax]

@gaunt narwhal I think you mean "twins"
It's a very different thing
But IDK how you would ahieve that since eggs hatching are based on players joining the server

[gaunt narwhal]

i mean just make a 25% chance for the smale gender and skin

same*

[urban flax]

So it wouldn't actually be twins ? Just more randomness in skins ?

Or rather less

[gaunt narwhal]

it will make an impression of tweens

or maybe make so that egg has 10% chance to get used for spawning two times and it would make twins

[craggy juniper]

#general-feedback message would make things much harder for herras, even though things are already hard enough considering their super weak health.

[barren zephyr]

will i be banned or muted for critizing the devs?

[steady sage]

No, only for misinformation

[full pewter]

@barren zephyr gonna rewrite that one since many people wonder how semi aquatics or herreras and such will fare in these kinds of maps

[boreal briar]

If you mean for in ⁠general-feedback you just gotta make sure your critique is worded as actual feedback instead of "Ree f the devs, y not making it better". A lot of people complain about that happening after basically just posting an insult or hate mail to the feeback channel.

[north quiver]

@gritty kernel that’ll only cause a new hot spot to pop up

the best option is to have spawns be randomized over large general areas (e.g west side of the map, east side of the map, etc.)

playing devil’s advocate, but there was a suggestion iirc about carnivores not giving other carnivores enough nutrients to sustain themselves… I lowkey vibed with it

ai also needs to just

not spawn in hotspots

[woeful zealot]

Can beipi migration zone be highlands j sector? How does that makes sense?

[wooden agate]

randomized spawns would be better yeh

[north quiver]

#balance-feedback message here was that suggestion

I’d personally change it a bit

I’d give a sort of “nutrient value” that can change. herbivores have the highest nutrient value, carnivores spawn with a very small nutrient value

carnivores eating other carnivores with equal or less value will not cause the value of the consumer to raise and will have it lowered a little

to raise the value, an herbivore must be eaten (and then that carnivore with the new high value can be eaten and provide a higher value to other carnivores that have a less value, but it won’t provide as much as an herbivore would)

playing into the devil’s advocate with this one, but I genuinely think it’ll help a bit with constant pvp hotspots to some extent

(yes, I’d count ai as herbivore that adds to the “nutrient value” of the individual that eats it. how much it’ll add depending on the size of the playable can definitely be debated)

[barren zephyr]

ah alr i wasnt gonna bu tthanks for the advice

[scarlet forge]

@barren zephyr They are working better than you think, Quality over quantity, what they are doing now is polishing mechanics that they hope will be the pillars of dinosaurs with outstanding abilities, what I can tell you is that LET THEM COOK

[barren zephyr]

Quality over quantity isnt the problem anymore

[scarlet forge]

Outside of that, I would say that your comment is not surprising because it is something that many people think, and if you only come to complain about how good the game was and that the developers are lazy, it will not fix anything.

[barren zephyr]

but if no one complains they will keep doing the same mistakes,

I see tons of youtube videos and Steam reviews with people having the same problem as me

[scarlet forge]

I'm not saying this with the intention of offending you, but really, that kind of feedback won't change anything because it's something that many people think, or maybe because it's false and you say it because of the bad image that some developers have.

[barren zephyr]

This Community and game has just become a waiting simulator

[barren zephyr]

They have the bad image because they have done it too them selfs

[scarlet forge]

That's why your comment doesn't mean much, the developers are already working on what they can, and your comment doesn't help anything other than fanning a flame of hate for waiting.

I don't understand what you want to achieve with your suggestion.

[barren zephyr]

Heres just 1 review when u scroll

[scarlet forge]

So, don't play the isle if You don't want to

I think your problem was because of the wait.

[barren zephyr]

But why would i? the community is great and the game is FUN when updates happen

[barren zephyr]

Its not and if it was i would say it was

[scarlet forge]

Then whats your problem

[barren zephyr]

The roster is so over extended and its just them giving us false promises, The devs Lie, Dondi doesnt care about the game, Updates dont have dates its just whenever they feel like updating the game.

[scarlet forge]

ok so

what do You want to achieve with Your GAME suggestion?

[barren zephyr]

I want people to also Quit the game so the devs and creater can all see that they have messed up and need to listen to the community

[scarlet forge]

make it clear how bad the developers are?

LOL

[barren zephyr]

i dont see how its funny?

[scarlet forge]

The developers have good intentions, if they had wanted to they would have left the game in the legacy version and stayed living with its millions of copies sold

but they didnt

they kept working to improve it

[scarlet forge]

Cuz your intentions are goofy

There are like 120k people on the server

[barren zephyr]

how are they goofy its a serious problem?

[scarlet forge]

and You want a revolution

[barren zephyr]

revolution..? what?

[scarlet forge]

Cause that doesnt helps anything

[scarlet forge]

lol

@barren zephyr , if You don't like the game You can just give bad Review on steam, but don't comment that on GAME FEEDBACK, for GAME stats and GAME feedback, not like dev feedback

[barren zephyr]

And who are u to say that?

telling me where and where not i can leave a comment about the game

[scarlet forge]

I say this as a user who would like suggestions for the game and its statistics (not to complain about the staff) to have more attention, leave your comment wherever you want but I don't think it helps anything either.

I'm just saying that you shouldn't keep comments that don't help the development of the game

[barren zephyr]

ok?

[boreal briar]

@restive oar read the dev blog posted in #announcements . You will see a nice suprise in there

[normal lotus]

@restive oar boy howdy do I have news for you.

[latent olive]

"dondi doesnt care about the game" is completely wrong in every regard lmao

its HIS game, HES making it

he doesnt care for STREAMING the game anymore, due to the community

but if dondi didnt care about the game he would just stop

also what do you mean by "devs are lazy"

last year alone we got 6 dinosaurs, a new map, migrations, weather, a new NV system, prototype guns for humans, new AI creatures, a new AI spawning system, a new stamina system, sanctuaries, and more

[radiant nest]

And engine upgrade

[normal lotus]

Maybe. Instead of being a doomer. Leave, and be more productive with life.

Instead of whinging about a dinosaur game

[urban flax]

When the feedback started with "I don't want to disrespect the Isle in any form" I already knew it was gonna be a doomer/hater post

[wooden agate]

common sense is lost on doomers

[restive oar]

i prefer no pings but i just read is and it SHOUOLD have been 1 of the first things to be added imo

[echo notch]

Who / how do I contact about an issue with the discord server itself?

[hybrid mica]

@slim halo herra already has a claw attack

[slim halo]

no it doesnt

[hybrid mica]

its alt attack uses its claws

[slim halo]

Im talkin about just normal claw attack

that does like 45-50 damage

idk it got beipi lookin claws

30 bite damage is annoying when ur hunting ai

[hybrid mica]

herra is already op enough ngl i think what it has now is ok

[slim halo]

especially ai

[hybrid mica]

ambush them

[slim halo]

too much stam

it doesnt make herra too op if u let it slap u

would make ground defense a lot of fun if ur hunting ai or against a baby

[limber hull]

herrera is supposed to be bad on ground, good with pounce thing

[slim halo]

omg mr. rat is here im leaving

BYE

[limber hull]

shrimple as that

[slim halo]

🤓

[hybrid mica]

dryo beats it on the ground lol

[limber hull]

which is good imho

im glad dryo is actually strong now

[limber hull]

🐟

[uncut zephyr]

🐠

[slim halo]

🤓

[limber hull]

welcome back

let's discuss

[slim halo]

shut up

lets discuss ur NERDINESS

[limber hull]

hmm

[slim halo]

[uncut zephyr]

I think we should remain civil and kind

[slim halo]

I am very much kind

[limber hull]

let's discuss claw attack and its plethora of potential drawbacks for 30 minutes at least

[limber hull]

kind of a DWEEB haha

[uncut zephyr]

What a DORK

[slim halo]

[boreal vessel]

Honestly man, small dev team but theyre making big moves and based off the road map + the current content we have, theyre working haaaaaaaard

[full pewter]

New question for yall, the relationship between Allo and Alberto? Not just who wins in a fight (imo should be 50/50). But also what benefits one has over the other

[urban flax]

Alberto has cooler horns

[full pewter]

Nah that goes to Allo😂

[urban flax]

https://tenor.com/view/spook-spooky-scary-skeleton-spooky-scary-skeletons-gif-16675136

[urban flax]

I don't

[lyric pollen]

hold on

[scarlet forge]

Hold on

[quartz prism]

To the ones who down voted this #general-feedback message, im curious why?

[desert arch]

I dont know if you know this already, if yes, sorry for the ping.
Filipe said global chat is already complete and is coming in the next major update.

[barren zephyr]

so now i get insulted just for giving my feedback?

and i wasnt even saying anything rude to anyone?

[barren zephyr]

It didn’t even seem like you were giving feedback just ranting about how the wait is too long and dondi doesn’t care and what not.

[normal lotus]

Dawg you called the devs lazy. Which is pretty insulting and not true

[barren zephyr]

okay? so just say that no need to insult me two wrongs dont make a right😭

[quartz prism]

Oh nice, i didnt know that and did try to address it in my suggestion that it is very much going to be irrelevant if global was stated to be coming asap
Can you please link/direct me to where it was stated? since my suggestion would be redundant and i can remove it ^u^

[desert arch]

#announcements message "Added global chat as a server option. (Disabled by default)

[quartz prism]

Awesome great to see it
Ima leave up my suggestion tho, since i made the suggestion before that post and thus timeline wise, is relevant

[normal lotus]

Aight, I'm sorry for insulting you.

[vital laurel]

@green plaza they can’t it doesn’t have needed hardware/software

[safe hearth]

Added skin creator <- what did that means? Does anyone know it?

[icy lion]

You can open the skin customizer in the main menu instead of needing to join a server first

[safe hearth]

Ahhhh okay
Good addition
Thank you for explaining it

[ivory sandal]

@keen wharf why

[keen wharf]

it is expected that there will be bugs and issues with public stress tests; if people want stable builds they can always play on the live version

[ivory sandal]

i specify that i want to see it fixed WHEN the update cmes to live, not now. im making it aware that it is a game breaking issue for those who do not regularly handle single digit fps on this game, i am in no way asking for them to fix it now

[wooden agate]

@tulip totem #general-feedback message never happening, spiro is gonna be deleted eventually (just like legacy mashallah 🙏 )

[tulip totem]

terrible

[limber hull]

excellent

[wooden agate]

spiro was the worst designed map that the isle has ever had

from a gameplay pov, from a map design pov, from a realism pov

it just encouraged the PVP deathmatch mindset the community had (and some still have)

[mystic parcel]

def agree. that map was just forced deathmatch due to how it was designed. its not needed, plus arent they planning to make a smaller map later on? correct me if im wrong

[hot egret]

anyone else getting horrible performance issue in the hordeteting branch

[limber hull]

known issue

[dry falcon]

@urban bear that's awesome

[urban bear]

Yeah its super cool I hope they dont remove it after the eclipse

[dry falcon]

Yeah

[tight iron]

@faint cipher turn lumen off

lumen right now makes everything dark and bonks all your fps

[faint cipher]

Thanks worked like a charm

[tight iron]

ofc

[wooden agate]

im X'ing it simply because you used a clueless gif

mean girls superiority

i never removed my checkmark but i will remove the X

[olive hollow]

the deino doesn't get diet from bones anymore??

I just ate a big bone and got food without diet as a baby deino

kind of frustrating, diet is harder to come by now is this intentional?

[hidden mist]

If you think this is a bug, report in the #🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 (I would think so, btw. Deinos surely were getting nutrients before). Devs are now more active than ever and view reports almost immediately

[tight iron]

@hybrid mica turn lumen off

[rain hemlock]

What/where is lumen

[tight iron]

in the graphic settings there is a "lumen" option, turn it off

it gives you triple the fps and more visibility

[merry pine]

It's still low fps

[tight iron]

where in the map r u rn

[merry pine]

Everywhere I go

[tight iron]

do you have nvidia or amd

[hybrid mica]

mine was off

[merry pine]

Nvidia

[tight iron]

do you have dlss on

[tight iron]

uh

[merry pine]

No

[tight iron]

try this out

[tight iron]

try putting it on ultraperformance and see what happens

[hybrid mica]

did that as well, mine started off at 80-90 but after 30mins it got down to 5

[tight iron]

ooh yeah that damn issue

it's a memory leak

do you know what a memory leak is?

[merry pine]

Well if I do that I can't see, Everything will be blurry

[tight iron]

oh well, what are your specs?

[hybrid mica]

no

[tight iron]

basically, each task has an assigned amount of ram to it, and it frees the ram it used after finishing X thing. a memory leak is when it doesn't free the ram so it's still being used and slowly consumes all the ram there is till it just goes to hell

[merry pine]

1650 ti ,16gb ram , I5 10400 f

[tight iron]

how many fps do u get on average in the main evrima branch?

[merry pine]

Like 50 or 40 sometime 60 but before gateway always 50

[tight iron]

and what about in hordetest?

[merry pine]

20 and 10

[tight iron]

tf

alr it's probably the game shitting itself

can't really think of any other possible issue

[merry pine]

Yep just have to wait for the next update

[tight iron]

yis

[hearty sphinx]

Anyone played herrera yet on st? Does it still 1 shot omnis?

They changed fall damage

[limber hull]

i dont think that has anything to do with herrera damage

[midnight heath]

Fall DMG has nothing to do with the pounce

Did it ever one shot? I thought it was 1 big pounce + bite for most big jumps.

[hearty sphinx]

What is it then?

[limber hull]

damage from... falling off things

[hearty sphinx]

Ok well I hope so

[limber hull]

herrera can still one-tap omni iirc

[hearty sphinx]

Yes you can 1 shot an omni if you high enough

You need a head shot though

[rain hemlock]

i checked & my lumen is already off

[tight iron]

then it's probably the game shitting itself again

[rain hemlock]

awesome

[wooden agate]

thank the lord

[hearty sphinx]

😂

[brave sonnet]

Anyone else play with the new scroll out limit on the test server and not like it?

[limber hull]

@brave sonnet "I thought the camera changes weren't happening?"

They are, just not the ones we saw in that stream preview

[brave sonnet]

That's wild the limit on how far you can scroll out deff makes playing feel terrible so disappointed they heard the back lash over the camera being changed and they went for it anyways

[wooden agate]

thats why its on the hordetest and not the main branch

[earnest saffron]

Yes. I wish they would just. Stop with the cameras. Just leave them alone. Plz.

[wooden agate]

this gives them a chance to figure things out, test what works and doesnt

although to be fair, ive only seen a few people complaining about this camera change

nothing compared to before when they were sending death threats to the devs

over a camera

in a dinosaur game

[brave sonnet]

I never saw death threats personally just threats to Uninstall and not play anymore

[limber hull]

there were more than just death threats lol

[earnest saffron]

I wish they would use their resources for literally anything else than messing with angles the community has very firmly stated they're fine with

[wooden agate]

frankly, if theres a better way to do the camera then they should atleast try to get there lol. thats going to involve testing and messing around with it

and its not like the entire dev team is working on a camera change lol. they can work on multiple things at once

[midnight heath]

Not sure if it's because of troos camera being higher but if I scroll all the way out this is the most I can see of it.

[brave sonnet]

I know it's truly terrible

[earnest saffron]

What
Ew
Put it back
Sob

[wooden agate]

you'd have to check with other animals, cause that could really just be troodon having its camera higher (which is what the community begged for, for months)

[limber hull]

i literally didn't notice lmao. if anything, i thought it was better

[midnight heath]

If I sit it higher I can see it all I guess but at an angle, I just wanted to see my patterns in the lighting. I don't feel super effected by it, just noticed it.

[wooden agate]

@limber hull actually do you have a ss of the camera that has the rex and omni in it

[earnest saffron]

I'll have to play troo for myself and see. Hmm.

[midnight heath]

I don't think it feels worse at least on troo, just strange not being able to see it all head on. The grass opacity only works sometimes however for me.

[wooden agate]

id assume that the strangeness just comes from it being new

iirc people said the movement in evrima was weird when it first released lol, because they were so used to legacy

and now its generally accepted that evrima movement is better in pretty much every way

[limber hull]

i also dislike the "we didnt like this prototype so you're not authorised to try it" lol

[midnight heath]

I do like the AI changes, the feedback sounds, animations and diversity is nice.

And pounce from behind is a god-sent, deer also at least don't seem to be zig-zagging anymore for me

[earnest saffron]

They did mostly good with the QoL changes this time. I've seen so many dead deer around, they must be easier to catch now lol

Baby deer literally sound like they're screaming though lol

[limber hull]

they literally said "we're doing this", they aren't required to give into being bullied out of ideas lol

[brave sonnet]

OK? And we have the ability to voice we don't like it that's why there is a feeb back section. If they don't want feed back they should just delete these channels honestly

You told me to "wait till you've tried it" I waited I tried it I don't like it lol am I supposed to pretend it do?

[midnight heath]

I feel like they might be slower now, I can trot as troo and keep up with it just about it.

[earnest saffron]

Why on earth would they make troodon slower???

[limber hull]

thats not what he said

[earnest saffron]

Oh the deer

My bad, misread

[wooden agate]

you're allowed to not like it, and you're absolutely able to voice your opinion on it. but this is something the devs want, and what the community did was try to bully them into conforming to their ideals of what the game should be.

they want feedback, but the community does not dictate every single thing that happens in this game, and thats something they need to accept lol

is this camera change final? probably not, thats why its on hordetesting first.

[brave sonnet]

And that's why I'm calmly giving my personal feed back that I don't like it. Here in the feed back channel of people were rude 2+ months ago that's not my issue

[wooden agate]

but at the end of the day, if the game devolves into something you dont like anymore, you have the ability to stop playing it. thats not a bad thing, and thats not me saying "grrr if u hate it so much why play it!!!", im just saying that option is still there. sometimes games outgrow us, and thats ok

[wooden agate]

yeah, just like the community was writing hit pieces on the game, sending death threats to the devs, review bombing the game, etc. a massive overreaction to a camera change in a dinosaur game

[brave sonnet]

That has nothing to do with right now. Since

1. I didn't participate in that
2. that's not what I'm doing

Are we not allowed to say anything going forward about the cameras bc people were rude over it? I'm so confused

[limber hull]

hell, this camera change is VERY subtle compared to what was shown off

frankly, playing Troodon, I felt the camera was far larger and gave me a massive FOV

[wooden agate]

ill take "things no one said" for 500, alex

[normal lotus]

What's funny is. That wasn't even the worst reaction in isle history

[limber hull]

you got banned from the reddit for liking the changes lol

[brave sonnet]

I'll take "person keeps bringing it up" for 1000 alex

[midnight heath]

I don't hate the change right now, I feel like it's something I'll barely notice later. Just might make taking photos a bit rougher but they might do something for that later specifically.

[wooden agate]

"we believe in free speech, unlike the discord."

bans people who dont hate the devs

[normal lotus]

Tbh I'm not a big old fan of it. Doesn't mean I wouldn't stop playing the isle, like mahoraga I'd adapt

[earnest saffron]

This tiny change to cams feels like the devs tossing a piece of meat out into the open to see if a swarm will come devour it before they step out with the real plans for cameras

It's ominously terrifying

[wooden agate]

i just hope the camera helps bring back some horror to the game. current camera was a bit uhhh... not great for that

if only i had the omni/rex screenshot

[earnest saffron]

It gave me quite the jumpscare every time a carno charged my tail while I was eating as a cera because of eating/drinking lock

[brave sonnet]

I often wonder if having server roles has anything to do with the stances people take. But I'm going to excuse myself from this channel

[wooden agate]

what does that even mean

[limber hull]

dirty phase 3er

[midnight heath]

[normal lotus]

@brave sonnet I think it may be an issue for small animals not being able to see through the foliage cuz its buggy

[midnight heath]

Oh I love this, this lighting for a thunderstorm is what I craved.

[normal lotus]

Just dark enough to convey that stuff is going down but not crippling

[midnight heath]

Exactly I can see but it's still clearly storming. I'm down with it.

I'm overall pretty happy with a lot of the QOL changes, the only worry I have is omni and not being able to knock it off via trees and being stuck with the current buck we have.

The sounds and such I'm sure will be fixed soon enough

[normal lotus]

My only worry is either performance issues. And kinda how the opacity thing is. If it keeps being on the fritz

[midnight heath]

I'm hoping they'll level things out and that it's mostly a horde-testing exclusive for the moment. I know I turned some stuff down to medium and I'm running fine for now, heading back to East to see if that changes.

The opacity worked on and off for me too, I wasn't super fond of how it looked but glad to see their trying to tackle it at least.

[normal lotus]

I actually didn't mind it.