general-feedback-discussion

[nocturne spruce]

We have no way of knowing that dinos in that time weren't smarter or dumber than the smartest animals we have rn

[steep warren]

Nesting would have to be reworked a million times over

[cyan flame]

You could, but then you'd also remove the opportunity for that playable to nest, correct? I guess the option could exist, but it's similar to "let me pair with same sex/gender" instead of just grouping. You still got grouping, the "mated" part is far as I can tell purely for the game to go "You can make a nest and eggs now" mechanic.

[rare fractal]

Tbf the animals we play are genetically engineered weapons so I don’t think that’s particularly relevant

[lapis swallow]

males and females dont even function really differently in the isle. the only difference is that the female presses a button once to lay the eggs

[nocturne spruce]

Which makes their conscience and intelligence EVEN more probable

[outer sphinx]

And one has 1 more cuztomization choice

[untold wharf]

@nocturne spruce going off of your points before- what benefit would that bring to functionality of the game? It wouldn’t bring anything, except for a warm fuzzy feeling to the player. So for that reason- should not be implemented at the cost of besting to be worked 10000 times over.

[grand folio]

No intersex animals have a combination of male and female genitals
So they could in theory both lay eggs and impregnate others

[cyan flame]

I don't think we mean the same thing with that word then, because I'm not sure I agree on that premise to be honest. You'd have to be self aware first I think, and then eventually figure, if you even care or think in that way, which is not given just because you are sentient/sapient (never did figure out which word is the accurate one there).

[nocturne spruce]

I asked you those questions and you avoided them, so don't expect me to respect you by answering your questions now

[lapis swallow]

yeah, thats it. I dont know where you would fit intersex in that mechanic

[untold wharf]

I answered them all, so you missed them.

[rare fractal]

I just don’t see why it matters, who I am irl doesn’t translate to the super weapon I choose to play in game so I can’t relate

[nocturne spruce]

You didn't answer any of them lol

[outer sphinx]

We barely even have sexual dimorphism to begin with lol

[nocturne spruce]

That's for you, but others feel different about that

[untold wharf]

Your gender identity comfort zone should not and will not be implemented into the isle.

[nocturne spruce]

"will not" oh so you're suddenly a dev?

[steep warren]

Its a dinosaur survival game

[untold wharf]

I’m a realist.

[cyan flame]

Ah, fair enough, wasn't entirely sure on the term there. Yeah, I guess that could work then, though I feel like it'd take away from the point of requiring someone of the opposite sex for nesting, maybe making nesting too easy, especially if we also get perks and stuff from nesting and raising offspring and all that?

[outer sphinx]

One question, is your gender your personality too? General question

[cyan flame]

Kind of how like in prog, nesting kind of... ruined stuff a bit

[nocturne spruce]

This person really just said "your gender identity comfort zone should not be implemented int he isle" i'm so sure this person is phobic

[lapis swallow]

stego and ptera are pretty good regarding that, the rest... not so much

[nocturne spruce]

You're phobic

[untold wharf]

I am a user of a dinosaur game. Stop pushing your agenda on a dinosaur game.

[urban flax]

I don't understand the "third gender" argument...
In the Isle you choose your dino's sex, not gender
If you want to roleplay as a nonbinary omni or whatever, what does a little icon at character creation changes ?

[agile roost]

@nocturne spruce there were no gay or lesbian dinosaurs, hence why there's only 2 genders of dinosaurs

[steep warren]

Its a dinosaur game

[grand folio]

Also let’s make a point clear. Dinosaurs are hyper intelligent animals, on par with modern mammals and birds. That doesn’t mean that they could or couldn’t swap genders socially as a lioness does when a male lion is absent
It just wouldn’t work mechanically

[nocturne spruce]

You're literally being phobic. "gender identity comfort zone"

[nocturne spruce]

you have no way of knowing there weren't

[nocturne spruce]

Actually ,there are gay animals today too

[untold wharf]

You are the one creating issues by bringing up social constructs in a dinosaur game.

[grand folio]

There were most certainly, modern animals display homosexuality

[urban flax]

And why do people always have to be cringe on this topic

[nocturne spruce]

You're being phobic.

[agile roost]

And you have no way saying there were

[untold wharf]

@urban flax tell me about it

[outer sphinx]

Welcome to the internet basically

[grand folio]

Your being annoying lmao

[steep warren]

People dont go into the isle to think about their genders, they play to play and live as dinosaurs

[nocturne spruce]

I DO, actually. Today we have gay animals, so it's 100% probable that there also were in the dino time

[lapis swallow]

but the "male" "female" option is about sex, not gender. If you are not trans, your body is still male or female. and the isles "male" "female" option is about the dinos sex, not their gender

[rare fractal]

Nobody seems to care about how it actually…effects the game, just the logistics of animals that aren’t even relevant to the topic :p
Idk, fun to watch ig

[nocturne spruce]

They literally just said "your gender identity comfort zone" as if it was an insult.

[latent helm]

@feral rivet

[outer sphinx]

Glad I havent seen anyone arguing over vegetarian carnivores yet

[untold wharf]

I meant what I said

[nocturne spruce]

That's a transphobic agenda

[cyan flame]

And you can play as that, since it's down to your behaviour in the game

[grand folio]

It’s a dinosaur game. I’m sorry. I’m trans too I get it but it’s a game about nature

[untold wharf]

<@&505047238674874368> should read this chat.

[nocturne spruce]

You can't just say "you're either male or female"

[urban flax]

Why is an animal being gay or not even relevant to adding a third imaginary sex option to dinos ??

[nocturne spruce]

Nature also has gay animals.

[agile roost]

We don't have gay animals?

[rare fractal]

Because…..or something

[nocturne spruce]

1 word
buffalos

[lapis swallow]

i did not say that.

[nocturne spruce]

you did

[grand folio]

Ok I get that. That’s fine you can go pair with another male, but don’t push that onto other people or the game as a whole

[agile roost]

I don't believe you

[lapis swallow]

I said, if you are not trans (which the isles dinosaurs arent), you are either male or female. their body, not how they identify.

[agile roost]

I agree

[nocturne spruce]

https://www.dw.com/en/10-animal-species-that-show-how-being-gay-is-natural/g-39934832

LITERALLY

there are several species that practise homosexuality

[rare fractal]

Why is this relevant?

[grand folio]

You can do that in the game you just can’t nest

[cyan flame]

Either ask random female/male "Can you spare x minutes to mate with one of us, lay eggs and then we're good", or do the less peaceful option of "kill the parents and "adopt" their now orphaned offspring. There you go, play as you like, can still get in on nesting.

[nocturne spruce]

We have to push it onto others, otherwise they won't accept it. You can be nonbinary

[agile roost]

This is only common with mammals

[nocturne spruce]

because @agile roost denied it

[rare fractal]

[nocturne spruce]

don't make me bring you another source that disproves that

[outer sphinx]

You know what happens when you force something down ones throat? They reject it even more

[steep warren]

People dont go into the isle to think about their genders, they play to play and live as dinosaurs

[lapis swallow]

there are gay birds too

[untold wharf]

Stop bringing politics into dinosaur games.

[trim lotus]

They’re isn’t non binary in nature, there is homosexuality, but that isn’t for love it’s for survival, animals don’t have the same feelings we do

[urban flax]

In nature, animals can be either male, female, both, or none.
Humans are either male or female, like many animals.
Then you can do whatever you want with your gender or sexual preferences, but it doesn't change your natural sex, and in the context of a videogame, it boils down to RP... not mechanics
Unless the game is specifically designed to be about this topic (which it isn't)

[barren crater]

The reason we have male and females in this game are for nesting purposes

[nocturne spruce]

That's not true. The LGBTQAHRJA+ community is growing more than ever.

[lucid mauve]

I dont even know what gender i am unless someone ask me lol

[agile roost]

We didn't ask

[nocturne spruce]

You just said you can either be male or female, which is really phobic

[urban flax]

I'm not talking about genders there

[rare fractal]

Yay Lunary is here!

[icy lion]

Looks like it's time to drop the subject. This isn't going anywhere good

[trim lotus]

Are you troll?

[outer sphinx]

Exactly

[nocturne spruce]

I find that offensive. I'll drop the topic now

[agile roost]

Honestly, this is just a weird feedback suggestion, I'm not going to bother arguing over something this pointless

[untold wharf]

I’m sure you do…

[nocturne spruce]

Can someone upvote my suggestion at least #general-feedback

I had to upvote it myself

[barren crater]

I reckon they should add allo next update 🥰

[cyan flame]

How about we get kentro and remove stego instead!

[lapis swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/no-way-dude-no-oh-bugs-bunny-bugs-gif-22941840

[nocturne spruce]

Aren't they adding eldering

[grand folio]

Here.
Male, female. Options you can choose in the menu
Intersex a rare mutation you can get from being nested that allows you to reproduce asexualy

[untold wharf]

LOL

[steep warren]

People can upvote it if they think its a good idea or not

[rare fractal]

Agreee, then Hyper rex, that’s my favorite one 👍

[nocturne spruce]

Can you post that

[barren crater]

Sounds just as good

[lucid mauve]

Why? I like to play it chill and not constantly be in packs herds lol

[barren crater]

Omg hell yeah

[outer sphinx]

Finally, good ideas

[cyan flame]

Because everyone hates stego, and loves kentro xD

[grand folio]

Nah, you can save it tho

[lapis swallow]

it should be able to spawn in like hypsi

[rare fractal]

Agreed, Strains shouldn’t be worked for

[lucid mauve]

How can they hate stego, its chill and dont even bother you unless you want : P

[rare fractal]

H rex from spawn sounds fair

[rare fractal]

Trust me Erik adores stego…

[barren crater]

Tbf kentro will be just as chill

[lapis swallow]

why dont they make you responsible for game design

[rare fractal]

Because they just can’t comprehend the depth and complexity of my artistic vision

[lapis swallow]

maybe

Dondi, hire this guy

[outer sphinx]

On top of that, add the rest of the strains at the same time, Hypo Omni going at carno speed and the agility ot Omni, all from spawn, ye thats fair to me

[rare fractal]

Sounds a bit weak tbh, might need buffs

[trim lotus]

It’s a stupid suggestion, I respect the community but this? I mean, you can rp or play as non binary, but even in humans you are assigned a gender at birth, it’s just up to you if you wanna be that gender or not, you can feel how you feel, but your not born non binary

[nocturne spruce]

Really

[outer sphinx]

True, it should be albe to pin anything 50% larger than it too

[nocturne spruce]

How can you say I'm not born nonbinary?

[agile roost]

Because you are

Ask your parents

[nocturne spruce]

This right here is why we need more gender affirming care.

[grand folio]

Just calm down.
Don’t argue.

[nocturne spruce]

They literally broughti t up again

And pinged me

[agile roost]

You're still replying

[barren crater]

Yeah, they did bring it up tbf

[trim lotus]

Because when your born your not worried about your gender, just food, water and sleep

[lucid mauve]

As you said, i found that offensive, now stop

[grand folio]

I understand your angry. You were born non-binary
But you did have a sex assigned at birth too. That’s what they mean to say

[nocturne spruce]

You find it offensive that we need more gender affirming care from birth?

[lucid mauve]

yes, so now u need to stop

[trim lotus]

Thank you

[rare fractal]

I want to see hyper Cerato pin brachi

[nocturne spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/smh-kanye-west-dumbass-no-gif-20416798

[lapis swallow]

thank you

[agile roost]

That'll be interesting

[grand folio]

https://tenor.com/view/kirby-roblox-blender-kirb-man-face-gif-23759252

[outer sphinx]

No no, if it hits its legs it topples any creature and breaks all their bones, only fair, but might need buffs tbh

But lets be real, all of this is weak and should just allow all players to spawn as the Matriach from the get go

[grand folio]

Nah if we are being honest that’s too weak, we need to be able to spawn as an adult hypo

[nocturne spruce]

back to topic, this would make the map more dead

because if people sleep, people wander around less

[outer sphinx]

Matraich mercs any dino, at least if it killed the right things

[rare fractal]

It should powderize bones instead of breaking them

[outer sphinx]

Thanos snap thy calcium

[lucid mauve]

Yea could be true, i honestly dont know much about kentro. Like size and potential attacks etc, but looks cool tho

[grand folio]

Thanos

[rare fractal]

[grand folio]

“Me stego I don’t feel so good”

*mr

[outer sphinx]

Matriach: I am inevitable! thanos snaps thy calcium of Hypo rex

[trim lotus]

I think it could work, maybe make Stam regen faster, or implement something to make dinosaurs sleep at night, which also gives troodons the opportunity to hunt sleeping prey, as they are unaware, and sleeping at night could give buffs, at the risk of being hunted while asleep

[rare fractal]

The isle cinematic universe

[barren zephyr]

What are up with these non binary things
It’s not about gender it’s about sex Lmfao

[grand folio]

We have got to talk about baby triceratops
It’s so ugly but cute. Like a pug
If we don’t see this in the game I will be sad

[cyan flame]

It's hyper, please and thank you! :p

[nocturne spruce]

It would make the map more dead, consequences outweigh the advantages

[nocturne spruce]

this could be AI

[grand folio]

No it couldn’t lmao, it’s a baby apex

[outer sphinx]

It all makes sense now! Neuro Spino is Iron Man, Hypo rex is hulk, no way!

[lapis swallow]

its a baby trike, that wont be AI

[nocturne spruce]

How is that a baby trike, it has a different name than trike

[grand folio]

He’s just a little horrendous creature

[barren zephyr]

It’s called triceratops what

[outer sphinx]

And like any pug, it should be put out of its missery

[grand folio]

OML

[cyan flame]

.... I wasn't sure if you were trolling earlier, but you're kind of inching closer to being just a troll

Because you can not be serious with that statement

[nocturne spruce]

"prorsus"

[grand folio]

yeah this persons a troll

[grand folio]

THE SPECIES OML

[cyan flame]

.... xD

[lapis swallow]

there are two trike species

[barren zephyr]

Real. Freshspawns can catch these hands

[nocturne spruce]

Wdym

[lapis swallow]

horridus and prorsus

[outer sphinx]

Inching? He isnt a troll, he is the whole motherload

[nocturne spruce]

Yeah but we're getting the triceratops one

[lapis swallow]

also Sus

[cyan flame]

Fair enough, I am just trying to be polite!

[grand folio]

There’s 2 species
Triceratops Horridus
Triceratops prorosus

[icy lion]

Triceratops is a genus

[outer sphinx]

Thats a fair point

[grand folio]

This server makes me loose braincells by the day lmao

[lucid mauve]

after watching how trike was on concept, could it be omnivore ? : P

[outer sphinx]

I am certain we passed into the negatives ages ago

[grand folio]

Will baby trike look like this tho?

[cyan flame]

Oh the stories we could tell! xD

[outer sphinx]

On that topic, Hyper Herbis anyone?

[nocturne spruce]

That's condescending

[nocturne spruce]

What is a genus?

[lapis swallow]

the greek philosoph...

[grand folio]

A group of anjmal with species in it

[cyan flame]

Among so many others!

[grand folio]

So you have
tyrannosaurus as the genus
Rex as the species

[nocturne spruce]

Tyrannosaurus rex is one dinosaur, that's why we only have one of it..

[grand folio]

Then you can also have subspecies

[icy lion]

The second smallest taxonomical grouping, with the smallest being the species

[grand folio]

No, tyrannosaurus is a genus with only one named species. That doesn’t mean there aren’t more

[icy lion]

"rex" refers to the species

[nocturne spruce]

But we only have one of it

[cyan flame]

What do you mean "we only have one of it"?

[grand folio]

There is mounting evidence for 2 new tyrannosaurus species

[nocturne spruce]

We've only discovered one, but research shows the other "discoveries" may just be the same one

[grand folio]

Not enough for it to be fact tho

[icy lion]

Yup, because that's the only species that's been found and/or described

[outer sphinx]

ye we have only one Rex, thats why its the species

[grand folio]

Do you have any idea how many specimens we have of this animal

We know more about tyrannosaurus then we do about some deep see animals that are alive today

*sea

[nocturne spruce]

It could just all be the same one

[nocturne spruce]

Is that even true

[grand folio]

Yes it is

[nocturne spruce]

Teh deep sea animals are stilll alive ,rex isn't

[outer sphinx]

We know shockingly little about our deep sea

[grand folio]

Yes, humans can’t go far down, we know nothing down there

[icy lion]

Deep sea animals are mostly unstudied

[grand folio]

Even deep time is easier to traverse

[outer sphinx]

We know more about space than our own oceans

[cyan flame]

That doesn't change the statement...

[icy lion]

Rex remains are very well-studied

Partially because we have so many

[grand folio]

At this point we know something pretty close to its life appearance

[outer sphinx]

Rex is probably one of the most studied dinosaurs ever

[grand folio]

Not only does it tell us what it looked like but it also clues us in on other large theropods morphology

Modern avian theropods are also a great help in studying extinct non avian dinosaurs

[nocturne spruce]

No, because no. It's literally extinct, we don't have an alive fossil of it but we do of the sea animals. The deep ones

[outer sphinx]

Isnt rex what lead us to understanding how dinos interacted, and about their skin?

[grand folio]

This is a troll

[grand folio]

Yes my friend!

[outer sphinx]

Knew those videos from 6 years ago or smth didnt leave my brain hahaha

[icy lion]

Yup, but we very rarely take a living deep sea animal and study them. We know very little about them, even when compared to an excinct species

Fossils can tell a metric TON of information about an animal if they're preserved enough, and we have plenty of well-preserved rex remains

[outer sphinx]

Most of them would also simply die the moment they get brought outside the deep sea

[grand folio]

Plus it is nearly impossible for modern human technology to go deep enough to find these animals, most of them are completely unknown and it will likely stay that way for some time

We can however find a study fossils because they are at our safe elevation level

[icy lion]

And explode, ruining our idea of their function and appearance

[grand folio]

Sight a: the blob fish

[outer sphinx]

yep, blob fish is the first thing that comes to mind, or some fish similar to it

[icy lion]

Poor thing :(

[nocturne spruce]

I meant we don't have an alive specimen*

[outer sphinx]

poor lad

[grand folio]

They took it from its home and it’s body basically fell apart. It’s so sad

[nocturne spruce]

So you're saying we know more about extinct animals than alive ones?

[icy lion]

That doesn't mean we don't know plenty about the animal

[cyan flame]

Having living specimen do not help if you can not get to them to study them at all...

[icy lion]

Than some living ones, and some extinct ones, yes

[grand folio]

Yes and we still know plenty more about most dinosaurs than we do modern deep sea dwelling animals

[nocturne spruce]

ok so we know less about dogs than exctinct species

[grand folio]

Simply because we can’t go to them and can’t bring them to us without ruining each others bodies

[outer sphinx]

Like how many animals we know that can somewhat live in deep sea but come closer to the surface, isnt it basically just the Sperm whale and collossus squid?

[icy lion]

Given that there's undiscovered living animals I can safely say that some extinct animals have more information known about them than some living species

[barren zephyr]

Perhaps you do but not most people

[icy lion]

It seems like you're intentionally missing the point and/or misinterpreting us

[grand folio]

We have been explaining it to you for 30 minutes

[nocturne spruce]

I'm not at all, and I find it offensive of you to assume I do malicious things just to annoy people

Extinct species are literally extinct, we can't extract more information than alive ones

[agile roost]

Bruh

[nocturne spruce]

Like we have more DNA available in a dog corpse, than a trex corpse

[grand folio]

Well I mean.. you are right now
Ignoring our factual objective points and making up your own thing

[outer sphinx]

That wording... def doesnt give it away

[cyan flame]

We can if we can't get to a living animal to extract anything from it in the first place

[icy lion]

Yup, but we're not talking about common, well-researched animals, the whole conversation was referring to living animals we've barely seen, such as abyssal fishes

[nocturne spruce]

How do we know about the deep sea animals when we can't extract anything from it? It's almost as if we already extracted them

[agile roost]

What do you mean by extract?

[nocturne spruce]

What they said

[agile roost]

Hm

[icy lion]

As in to extract information

[cyan flame]

We can find out basic things just by encountering a critter, which we can apply to encountering remains as well, and depending on how much we can find out from a living vs a dead species, it is entirely possible that we know more about an extinct species than a existing one. It all comes down to how much info we can get from remains, vs just observation of a critter, and so on.

[agile roost]

Okay

[weak dune]

Big difference between "we know this thing exists" and "we understand all the intricacies of how this thing exists". Deep sea creatures are hard to study because we physically cannot reach them most of the time.

There are a lot of deep sea animals we only know exist because they came up out of the deep, usually because they were sick or had something wrong with them, and then died closer to the surface of the ocean. And what we know is a very, very small amount of anything beyond that they're a real species.

[barren zephyr]

#general-feedback message why is this losing downvotes? It was at 23

[nocturne spruce]

How do we know of it if we can't reach it?

[grand folio]

This con i is getting stupid

Troodon if you won’t listen then we won’t explain

[lapis swallow]

sphinx just said it, I cant anymore

[weak dune]

Either some specimens came up towards the surface or we caught glimpses of them on camera probes that can record video but not much else

[grand folio]

It failed

Just blobdish tho

[agile roost]

Blobfish :0

Dish

[nocturne spruce]

WE LITERALLY HAVE THEM IN A T ANK

We can reach them

[grand folio]

Normal blobfish, you’ve all seen the picture of the one that got taken on land

[grand folio]

There’s no point left, this person has an iq of -300

[icy lion]

That's not a living animal

[nocturne spruce]

Are people really allowed to say this on here?

[grand folio]

Your just not listening

We are trying to tell you politely

But you won’t listen so we have to take measures

[agile roost]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-sad-blob-fish-gif-15806450

[nocturne spruce]

You're the one with -300 iq because you're saying we can't reach them, but we already have reached them

[grand folio]

YEAH A DEAD SPECIMEN THAT HAS NO RESEMBLANCE IF THE ANIMAL IN ITS REAL ENVIRONMENT

[icy lion]

As we've said, we can't reach them often enough or long enough to properly study them or observe their natural behaviors

Anyway, this is now wildly offtopic and not going anywhere. Again

[agile roost]

yea

[barren zephyr]

It was getting good tho 😞

[nocturne spruce]

Paleo has -300 iq because we have samples of the deep sea creatures, yet he says that we cannot reach them.

[grand folio]

You said your trans now your using incorrect pronouns lmao

[agile roost]

💀

[grand folio]

Also just be polite we tried to reach you but you won’t listen

[cyan flame]

Samples do not equate to equal amounts of knowledge. You can only get so much from a sample, so it depends on the sample, and so on. We can easily have much less of a sample of a deep sea creature than samples of an extinct creature, this is possible you know.

[urban flax]

Hey that's me

[agile roost]

:0 hello there

[nocturne spruce]

I never said I was trans.

Why do you say I said that, when I never said that? refer to the message where i did, because i never did

[nocturne spruce]

Yeah but samples contain dna

[cyan flame]

So... your entire argument here is that if we have DNA, we can know everything about a being?

[weak dune]

dna by itself doesn't tell us much of anything

a lot of fish have dna more like a human than our closest cousins, monkeys and apes do. Does that make fish humans? Should we assume that fish share all the same behaviors as humans do and live in the same ecological niches? Obviously not.

[agile roost]

I don't know much about DNA, but I'm pretty sure this is true

[sharp peak]

local troodon is obvious troll lol

[weak dune]

I've gotten that impression, yes

lol

[outer sphinx]

Hmmm... where have I seen this one before...

[cyan flame]

I think we all believe that by now, I am merely trying to figure out what his actual argument is by now xD

[nocturne spruce]

No. It's just that when you say I have "-300iq" and a mod which is ACTIVE IN CHAT does nothing about it, I'm going to do it back.

[barren zephyr]

Don't stop it now, it's just getting good

[cyan flame]

No idea honestly, but I'm also somewhat sleep deprived by now so I might just be extra dumb xD

[weak dune]

Dunno, but whatever it is, its mildly entertaining

[agile roost]

He didn't say that

[barren zephyr]

Yeah but apparently mods will let some stuff so long as its true

[agile roost]

🤣

[outer sphinx]

I think we should turn that idea into the plot of a movie, trust me, its gonna bang

[sharp peak]

lol

[barren zephyr]

Why dont you just accept the complement?

[cyan flame]

Ah, yeah, okay that one was obvious to be fair, I am just too tired to be clever xD

[outer sphinx]

All good lol

[nocturne spruce]

How is it a compliment when a rude person says you have -300 iq

And a mod does nothing about it even when they're active in chat

I'm going to go around saying that to poeple now, because apparently "superlunary" showed it was acceptable

[icy lion]

What?

Oh. I missed that

Sorry, it's like... 5am for me

[cyan flame]

I... would not advice you to do that, even if both of you apparently "got away" with it this time (though Lunary might have something to say). But in any case, you can be polite even if the other person is not.

[nocturne spruce]

"i missed that"

[barren zephyr]

😭

Now its gotta end

[icy lion]

@grand folio Don't insult people. It doesn't matter if you disagree with them, if someone makes you upset you drop the convo

[icy lion]

I sent a message and looked away, my bad

[nocturne spruce]

You literally responded to my messsage where I responded to them saying I had -300iq.

[agile roost]

Troodon clearly hasn't dropped the convo though

[nocturne spruce]

No way that was missed

[untold wharf]

Can we please take care of trodon

[icy lion]

As I said, I'm barely awake. I apologize for that

[nocturne spruce]

And here is the person that said "your gender identitiy comfort zone" as an INSULT and nothing was done

[outer sphinx]

Lunary is human just like us, we are prone to mistakes

[grand folio]

You gonna ban or strike me after we repeatedly argued politely with the person?

[weak dune]

I'm not a mod but I'm fairly certain making a public show of berating mods for mistakes is not a good way to handle things. DMs are usually a good bet if you think there's an issue. But I'll say no more on that lol

[untold wharf]

It’s me!! You need to stop bringing politics into games. You’re generally unlikable trodon

[icy lion]

This is wholly unnecessary

[grand folio]

I mean that politely btw. Just asking

[cyan flame]

You got a reprimand, I imagine that's the warning for now. Try not to do it again, and you should be good if you've not been more punished already. But I could be wrong, so don't take my word for it.

[nocturne spruce]

You said I had -300iq for no reason, you kept being condescending even tho i never made a personal attack to you

[icy lion]

Having a discussion with a mod doesn't make you immune to warnings or punishments

[nocturne spruce]

You're personally attacking me while I did nothing

[icy lion]

Well, I guess I have to ask for this convo to be dropped for the third time!

[barren zephyr]

Chill out guys

[nocturne spruce]

Do we know when we get hypos?

[icy lion]

If I have to ask again, I'm going to just mute the offenders instead

[grand folio]

I know, apologies, could you dm my punishment

[barren zephyr]

At least another year

[cyan flame]

Hyper*, and no I do not think we do. But I do not imagine we're getting them before most of the game is made honestly, since everything else will have to interact with them and thus need their methods in place, and on top of that strains are kind of an end game, or something like it, from what I've understood at least.

[weak dune]

The game already has trouble balancing regular dino encounters. I don't think we will, or should, get hypers any time soon

[outer sphinx]

They're starting working on Rex so the sandbox will already have a lot of stuff to iron out as is

[cyan flame]

Oh yes, that should be interesting, rex and trike, wonder how well that'll go xD

[weak dune]

Oof yeah I am not looking forward to rex intro lol

[barren crater]

I personally am

[outer sphinx]

rex without even a trike is just.... uh, yea

[barren crater]

Just to play around on test servers

[weak dune]

Can't wait to hear carnos complain about not being able to take on a rex and rex players complaining about not being able to run as fast as carno or whatever the "issue" is gonna be

[cyan flame]

Poor stegos, we'll all die out when rex and trike show up xD

[barren crater]

Sub Rex vs whatever else or juvi Rex vs Omni

[cyan flame]

Nah nah, it'll be the omnis and troodons complaining xD

[weak dune]

Rex this and omni that and troodon when, idgaf, I just want my fishing giggle chicken 😩

[outer sphinx]

nah it'll be the Legacy Utahs crying they cant cheese Rex anymore lmao

[barren crater]

Troodon shouldn’t touch Carno nevermind rex lol

[weak dune]

do legacy utahs even exist anymore lol

[outer sphinx]

Idk, they over there schizoing or smth, and I mean those legacy utahs

[barren crater]

I can’t wait to see how they balance Rex

[outer sphinx]

Hehe.... about that

[nocturne spruce]

Hypo*

[barren crater]

Immune to 8 omnis

[nocturne spruce]

Why does it matter whether we say hyper or hypo

[outer sphinx]

2k bite + fracture

[barren zephyr]

Rexes should have wings and fly

[outer sphinx]

Oh no... who gave the Rex redbull 😭

[barren crater]

[cyan flame]

No, it's hyperendocrine, if you're talking about the strain. Hence, hyper, for short, not hypo.

[barren crater]

I hope sub Rex is more of a Carno competitor than allo and Alberto

[outer sphinx]

It... wouldnt make sense

[nocturne spruce]

Ohhh

[barren crater]

Unique weight scales

[cyan flame]

Nah, omnis got to kill rex and trike and shant of course. And troodons probably got to kill allos and maias, before all is said and done!

[outer sphinx]

And here we thought you as a Stego loser main, here you are, preach

[barren crater]

Like sub Rex gets to 2.5t then bulks in adulthood. I hope it’s like that

[barren zephyr]

Troodon should have 2k damage and speeds of up to 90km plus 2k health

Then peple would play it

[outer sphinx]

You mean Hyper Troo

Hyper troo unrionically beeing a Omni with venom lmao

[barren crater]

😭

[barren zephyr]

No, I mean the standard. Hyper is gonna be 10x all around

[weak dune]

You've got it all wrong. We need immortal hypsis that 1-shot everything by pecking their toes

[cyan flame]

Hah, I love my stego! xD

[outer sphinx]

This but a flesh wound

[weak dune]

I still think that'd be an awesome april fools joke

[outer sphinx]

Hear me out, buff for baby Hipsy, stunlocks all dinos that look at it, Medusa style

[weak dune]

Yeesss

[barren zephyr]

No, that's horrifically bad. Give it 2 biteforce like normal, but its spit should do 1M damage and give it 2M hwalth

[weak dune]

Hypsi gods

I just want one day to be an ultra cute ringtone murder machine

[barren crater]

Update 4 hypsi that could 1 shot you with spit

[barren zephyr]

Devs gotta do april fools oneday

[barren crater]

(Hackers could)

[cyan flame]

Human gameplay? xD

[barren zephyr]

Shouldnt even have to spit. Just getting in 10 meters of them yoy should drop dead

[cyan flame]

Just give spit massive range and damage and let them loose!

[weak dune]

But then where's the thrill of the hunt??? u.u

[cyan flame]

Better yet, let the humans pick up and hold the hypsi as improvised gun!

[barren zephyr]

All you gotta do is stand in the open and eachtime someone charges you, they die instantly

[cyan flame]

Add range and damage to spit, let human pick up hypsi, and we're good to go!

[outer sphinx]

Cat gun: Jurassic edition

[cyan flame]

You can't tell me it wouldn't be both amazing and hilarious to see a gen2 run from a raptor and just grab a hypsi from the nearest tree branch, point at the raptor, and hope the hypsi has a sense of self preservation xD

[weak dune]

They don't need self preservation. We live off of pure SPITE

[barren zephyr]

Imagine devs walked into this channel and took us seriously

[outer sphinx]

No no, running from Omni by climbing a tree, sees a Herra, falls a few branches, grabs a Hypsi to knock the herra down, gets away screaming like Tarzan

[weak dune]

GOD I HOPE SO

[cyan flame]

It'd be fun, no? xD

[barren zephyr]

Is this how carnos hitbox got broken and pachy is best dino in the gane

Along with omni nerf

[cyan flame]

Nah. The first is because hitbox had to compensate for terrible charge turn, the second because no one considered stunlocking poor tenos, and omni wasn't really nerfed, only that carno and pachy got a bit... overtuned, shall we say :p

[barren zephyr]

Yeah but those combinations are horrible

[cyan flame]

Yeah, they are, and will be fixed.

[barren zephyr]

Honestly I'm fine with the current omni

Aside from

If it doesnt have agility for carnos

Give it 50km/h

[nocturne spruce]

Omnis would be cool if they were faster

[lapis swallow]

Nah, the speed is fine

[nocturne spruce]

Nah, it would be more fun if it was faster

[delicate goblet]

@nocturne spruce

[barren zephyr]

Agreed

[nocturne spruce]

@delicate goblet

[delicate goblet]

Why do you want non gendered dinosaurs tho

[nocturne spruce]

Ask @icy lion for permission before you start that topic again, I don't feel like getting muted for no reason. i see you're trying to bait

[delicate goblet]

The world doesn’t revolve around you, that’s all I’m saying. It’s a dinosaur game. but continue on with whatever y’all were talking abt

[nocturne spruce]

@covert nest So you want:

• the carno to take 2-3 seconds before it reaches top speed while ambushing
• the carno only to be able to deal damage after it has knocked down the opponent

let me get this straight, you want the charge itself not to do damage? Even when the carno hits you at full speed, it don't do damage? the carno has to bite you while you're down - to do damage?
That's what I got from your suggestion, tell me if I'm wrong about what you said

[covert nest]

What Im saying is that when carno starts running, it should take 2-3 seconds to reach top speed and then it can activate the ambush. About the ambush itself, I think that it should only deal damage when it knocks down the opponent, because there is a part of the body that it wont knock down, which is a part of the tail. There is a lot of times that the carno hits your tail (excluding the hitbox bug when it can hit you without touching), doesnt knock you down but still deals damage (specially when hits you on the tip of the tail which which doesn't make even more sense) and this is the problem. It shouldnt deal damage if it didnt knock you down. You know what Im trying to say?

[cyan flame]

I'm not sure why it wouldn't still hurt if you get hit?

[urban flax]

It's not an ambush if it needs to be running for 3 seconds before activating it

[cyan flame]

You already take less damage if it hits you on tail anyway, and you don't get knocked down, so you're already way better off

Also why are you calling the charge the ambush, it's just called charge, no?

[covert nest]

Ive got killed so many times as a omni getting only hits on the tail and watched so many videos of omnis getting killed by that too

[covert nest]

isnt the same thing when we are talking about a ambush predator?

[cyan flame]

I don't see the issue, if you get hit that many times on the tail, you... kind of need to learn to juke and dodge better. Granted the hitbox is bugged, but that'll be fixed.

[cyan flame]

No, because we're not talking about an ambush predator. And even if we were, the charge is the mechanic, ambush is a specific method of hunting, of which charge doesn't fit for that matter.

[covert nest]

ah ok

[cyan flame]

Not really important to the point, but if you want the mechanic to change, you should probably refer to it, otherwise people might get confused. :p

[covert nest]

so I should put charge instead of ambush?

[nocturne spruce]

Okay, so... no ambush?
And if it hits the tail and doesn't knock down the opponent, NO damage is dealt?
am i right about your text now?

[delicate goblet]

My dinosaur pronouns are zem/her

[covert nest]

yes, when he hits you in the tip of the tail with its charge it shouldnt deal damage

[nocturne spruce]

Anywhere where you get hit, and don't get knocked down by the charge, shouldn't deal damage?

[icy lion]

@delicate goblet If you're not going to be respectful or constructive, don't start a conversation

[icy lion]

Why do you keep posting that?

[delicate goblet]

I barely said anything

[icy lion]

You didn't need to.

[covert nest]

the problem is that in every part of the body excluding the tail, you get knocked down

[nocturne spruce]

they posted a picture, so i posted one in return. nothing malicious

[delicate goblet]

This generation is ridiculous.

This whole conversation wasn’t meant to be malicious

[nocturne spruce]

can you answer the question pls

So, any time you get hit by the carno - and it doesn't knock you down, it shouldn't deal damage?

[delicate goblet]

I was making a joke (the recent comment that was deleted)

[nocturne spruce]

you made mit malicious

[delicate goblet]

Because a joke?

That’s not malicious

[covert nest]

yes, because the only time it doesnt knock you down is on the edge of the tail

[nocturne spruce]

Dave chapelle once said; every joke has a truth to them

Joyner lucas once said: "in every joke, there is a double meeting under"

[nocturne spruce]

Okay. So, what happens if it hits your tail?

What should happen I mean

[delicate goblet]

Saying my dinosaurs pronouns are (insert) is a joke about how far people are willing to take this ideology, that’s it. Im Sorry if you were offended, maybe have thicker skin if ur going to be on the internet?

But go on about ur hitbox convo, I’m going elsewhere

[nocturne spruce]

So, you're pushing an agenda

[delicate goblet]

how am I the one pushing the agenda when you ask for non binary dinosaurs,

[covert nest]

It doesnt knock down as normally it happens (because depends on the hitbox some times) and so shouldnt deal damage in my opinion

[nocturne spruce]

You shouldn't keep bringing that part up, I'm not referring to anything with nonbinary dinos. a mod recently told us to drop that topic

[delicate goblet]

Then don’t say I’m pushing an agenda when you suggested it in the first place. g’day

[nocturne spruce]

"is a joke about how far people are willing to take this ideology"
You're clearly trying to push an agenda against an "ideology" by making your joke, that's your joke's purpose

which means you're pushing an agenda w your joke

[nocturne spruce]

i'm afraid you're having trouble with the definition of agenda

[delicate goblet]

You remind me of the average redditor meme 😂

[nocturne spruce]

Yeah but I mean, what should happen if the carno hits your tail? instead of it damaging you, what should happen instead?

[nocturne spruce]

i knew you would avoid it

[steel field]

Christ almighty this clown cart is still going?

<@&401466542140817419>

[delicate goblet]

It’s called making a joke about an agenda 🤦🏽‍♀️ I said I was going now, but ur pushing it

[covert nest]

Nothing... it shouldnt happen nothing, the carno has to try again to this time hit the charge correctly

[barren zephyr]

Is this about buffing omnis speed?

[cyan flame]

If it's the specific mechanic you want to talk about, then yes. Anyway, I do not agree, especially now that carno charge hitbox is going to be fixed, omni and others can juke just fine, and should not be able to just "tailtank" something entirely. That used to be a thing and it's not good. And at least taking some damage but not being knocked over isn't that bad, compared to getting a pounce despite the pouncer not hitting your flanks, which at least used to be a thing. A tail hit does little damage on top of that, you can "tank" one or two, and if you consistently get hit a third time, I do think that's more on you than the carno, at least with fixed hitbox on charge, so I'd at least wait for the update and see how that goes before making any such change to the charge.

[modest dock]

@nocturne spruce #general-feedback I do hope that this suggestion wasn't a serious one. At least I can say that some animals cannot define themselves as a single gender like some snails I do believe and it could be really interesting to see some animals with this particularity to come into the game at some point. But remember that the animal kingdom does not really have a kind of complexity such as chosing an identity...

[faint rock]

nobody cares man

[north quiver]

second suggestion asking for a dinosaur game to have different genders. is it really that important…? all it determines is whether or not you can nest and choose more flashy colors. I’m not trying to be disrespectful, but.. dude, if you really want it, just pretend your dino isn’t male or female lol.. It’s not the end of the world, and it’s not like it’s made to be maliciously exclusive. no one’s gonna stop you from creating a head canon

[polar tiger]

Uhh has an admin seen @nocturne spruce ‘s post in general feedback? I think he might just be baiting responses to cause drama in the chat o-o

[north quiver]

I actually wouldn’t doubt it if it’s baiting

[polar tiger]

Yeah :/

[latent olive]

an admin has seen it, and warned people in this chat like 4 times already

[barren zephyr]

He's trying to get the most dislikes on a comment in the whole channel

Ngl he mightve already succeeded

In less than 12 hours lol

[urban flax]

@hollow trail That would utterly destroy performance

Also it's much more adapted for single-player game,s and small playables areas, than massive multiplayer worlds

[hollow trail]

I know you are not that type of rabat-joie 😉 , i mean if that doesnt cause lag would you not be pleased playing in the waves ? Of course If you are talkin about the actual performance of the game yeah i mean corpse are glitching every run i do agree. But in a while when the game will approach his goal of being finnished, maybe UE x or AI would be optimizing game creation / multiplayer gameplay as much as it would become a matter of connectivity only and not hardware/software performances. Its already happening with hardware performance its not a selling argument anymore. The isle is an ant rn in the tech world bro i rly don't think they're doing they're best at the moment precisely because of this (even if they're doing vry good for a small team).

[urban flax]

Well of course these waters would look super cool and all.
But right now, UE5's water simulation physics are insanely tanking on performance and, as I said earlier, designed for single-player (or at least low pop) games.
I can see that happening some day, but in the far future, when this sytem is better optimized and everyone can afford a much more powerful computer.

[hollow trail]

we'll see bro 😉

optimization is getting quicker just sayin

[gleaming reef]

@barren zephyr You are allowed to kick members out of the group already and a "ban" is just useless. Then there also is a crown next to the name if you go into "group" in the tab pop up menu. Also the 4 call is a "warning" call already.

[barren zephyr]

Ban is not useless. Someone can easily change their steam name and come back to you

[gleaming reef]

Then just kick them again

Not that hard

[barren zephyr]

Not if you dont know its them

[gleaming reef]

What even is a good reason to "ban" someone from the group

[barren zephyr]

Killing a group member, being rude/disrespectful, or just in general being an annoyance

There are several reasons why

[gleaming reef]

Then why don't you kill them

There is nothing stopping you from killing them

[barren zephyr]

They can run and hide or they might be bigger than you

There are so many reasons a ban option would be useful

[gleaming reef]

Just leave the group

[barren zephyr]

What if its my group

[gleaming reef]

You can leave your own group

[barren zephyr]

So i gotta make a new group each time

[gleaming reef]

You can kick them

[barren zephyr]

Kicking is also bugged sometimes

Plus they can come back with another name

[gleaming reef]

then leave the group

[barren zephyr]

Bro

No i dont wanna have someone be able to infiltrate my group so easily like that

Also, that second suggeation wasnt meant to be there

I meant to change that but i forgot

[gleaming reef]

Here is a quick fix

Just play with your friends

[barren zephyr]

I mostly do

But what about players who dont have many?

[gleaming reef]

Then they can just do what i stated previously

[barren zephyr]

Of course they "can" but theres really no need to if you have a ban option and disabling group invites for group members that dont have permission

[barren zephyr]

Its just like saying dont hunt players because the dinos garbage and instead hunt ai

No, instead give suggestions on how to make it able to hunt better

[gleaming reef]

No it isnt.

[barren zephyr]

How so?

[gleaming reef]

You're misunderstanding the point

Aswell ai doesnt give alot of food

[barren zephyr]

Are you genuinely serious or trolling?

[gleaming reef]

What? No, it is just you're making a simple solution complicated

Ah now i see where you're coming from

[barren zephyr]

Do you agree that a ban would work as Well though?

[gleaming reef]

Well there is always that option to hunt ai if you suck at the game.

[barren zephyr]

Hm?

[barren zephyr]

I used that as an example

But ima just assume youre trolling

[gleaming reef]

I am not

You've just made a simple solution like leaving the group or kicking the person out into, no i need a ban option.

[modest dock]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-arthur-morgan-red-dead-redemption-eyes-look-gif-25213095

[barren zephyr]

So people who you DO NOT want in your group cannot join

Give me a legitimate reason why we shouldnt

[gleaming reef]

Just don't invite them then

[barren zephyr]

Have a ban reason

[barren zephyr]

What if they changed their name?

Its easy to do

You prob dont group much and just group with friends

[gleaming reef]

Why would they change their name to play a dinosaur survival game with someone who doesnt like them

[barren zephyr]

Which is fine but you dont understand then

[barren zephyr]

Tell me truthfully you haven t done it or you haven't been the least bit tempted

[gleaming reef]

To change my name?

[barren zephyr]

Yeah

[gleaming reef]

No i have not

[barren zephyr]

Well some people are

[gleaming reef]

Like 0.000000000002%

[barren zephyr]

More like 40%+

[gleaming reef]

Maybe you're the problem

[barren zephyr]

Alr whateverth

[gleaming reef]

I have never had to kick anyone out of a group

[barren zephyr]

Good for you

[gleaming reef]

What servers do you even play on

[barren zephyr]

The servers i play on

You just seem like you're trolling

Anyway, unless you give me legitimate reasons ima go

[gleaming reef]

No it is a serious question.

[barren zephyr]

Why do you want to know?

[gleaming reef]

cause i only play on EU servers

[barren zephyr]

I play on several servers

I play na 80% of the time

[gleaming reef]

I have given you 3 ways that are already in game

[barren zephyr]

Do you get cannibalized a lot?

[barren zephyr]

And that wasnt the only suggestion

I made 3

[gleaming reef]

Depends on what dinosaur im playing

[barren zephyr]

Maybe you dont want the ban to be a thing so you can troll them

What else is wrong with my suggestion aside from banning?

[hallow umbra]

who else saw this

"I want "no gender" to be an option. Some people don't identify as "male" or "female". I think it's excludes other groups."

[modest dock]

Literally everyone saw it i think

[hallow umbra]

lol

[modest dock]

Ppl answered to it upper in this channel

[barren zephyr]

Was one of the most disliked comment in the entire channel

#general-feedback message

[hallow umbra]

sorry, didnt know

[south oar]

Lol saw this no one liked it

[barren zephyr]

Why apologize? I didnt mean it in that way if you were responding to me. I was just clarifying

[barren zephyr]

Good lol

[south oar]

I found the comment ridiculous kinda chuckled

[proud coral]

That strain idea is pretty much what Tissoplastic is/was planned to be. Smaller, faster, and camouflages

[barren zephyr]

really?

[proud coral]

Yeah. Though the concept was said to be getting reworked ages ago and we haven't heard much of it sense.

[barren zephyr]

i just realized

well, same idea different name, mine's a little bit different tho

i think more of an ambush hunter, if he attacks you, you'd better be ready next time

as the wiki portraits it, it looks more of and ambush and then chase

#general-feedback message
Stop suggesting this lol there's only 2 genders, if you wanna RP as something else go for it, but mechanically there's no reason for there to be more than 2 options

[barren zephyr]

they seriously want dinosaurs to be able to choose genders

This is the second time I've seen them suggest this just reworded, and it got the same reaction

[rare fractal]

Topic already died, best to leave it that way

[barren zephyr]

how would that work? male and female have gender dimorphism, what aspect would they have

[barren zephyr]

yea

#general-feedback message
I actually kinda like this idea

[barren zephyr]

its cool, fish should be found in different areas tho, some in sea, some in river, some in lakes

Yeah

It would encourage travel across the island while still making sense with the diets

I like the turtles and stuff but until we have a better coastal biome, I don't see it being used a whole lot outside of pteras

[zinc rivet]

i wonder why this seems relatively unpopular

#general-feedback message

do people like the fact that other troodons could potentially grief your hunt by resetting the stage 1 and stage 2 timers by pouncing too early?

[cyan flame]

Possibly because if you remove that risk of reset, you remove the coordination needed for the group and the planning for them to successfully reach the end stage to become lethal. If they can pounce "freely" during both of those stages, there's no risk of them "failing" with their venom application, I don't think at least.

And yes, people can grief, but to be fair, people can do that as any species, in various amounts of ways.

[zinc rivet]

they could do something with bucking to make it potentially dangerous for troodon, or make the venom application slow and need continuous bites to make the troodon put themselves at higher risk giving the target more time to fight back

its just really weird to have the potential to reset a venom timer by pouncing too early, thats not realistic

venom is basically bleed 2, Omniraptor needs plenty of coordination as it is with just bleed

[cyan flame]

Bucking wouldn't do much, I don't think, since the venom is applied on impact, as is the damage, so you don't need to hold on (but you can, to add confusion to when you dismount I believe). Well, yes and no, venom seems to work on a "massively increased raw damage", whereas bleed is well, slow loss of "health" (bleed pool).

[zinc rivet]

could be changed so venom isn't immediately on impact

[zinc rivet]

plenty of ways it could theoretically be changed. i just dont think this is it

[faint folio]

Idk, I don't think the game mechanics need to be hyper realistic. And honestly I don't think they can be-- otherwise you'd have a bunch of dinos play basically the same because a lot of the roster is cherry picked from different times and ecosystems... We have a lot of dinos that occupied the same niches in their ecosystems and which behaved very similarly. But same face syndrome isn't super fun for games.

[zinc rivet]

I don't think that's really relevent

allot of game mechanics are designed to be relatively realistic and immersive. i don't think asking for venom to be different is asking for something hyper-realistic to such a degree that it'd negatively affect the experience lol

[faint folio]

Well... The problem is if troodon venom works like how you describe, then it's either essentially recolored Utah (simple DOT) or similar to dilo venom. I know it's not realistic, but the goal was for it to be different enough from other playables that there's a unique playstyle and always a reason to play every dino

[zinc rivet]

we dont have dilo venom yet

donno how itll work

n u can still have that goal of it being different, can still change it to be something else

[weak dune]

It is kind of weird that troodon venom will just cancel out troodon venom I'm fine with it not being realistic, but its a little bit silly even in unrealistic context

Your average Isle player is just not that coordinated in groups, no matter the species

Pachy are a stunning example of that when someone goes to headbutt something else and hits you instead

[jovial hazel]

Making a dino more boring so that it's easier to play seems like a bad route.

[rare fractal]

It's necessary so that troodon has...any sort of limits

[last lily]

Personally, it’s also kind of needlessly complicated, but that’s just me

[rare fractal]

Otherwise it's mechanics would be stupid easy

[weak dune]

tbf I haven't played troodon yet or watched much about it, so maybe I'll feel different once I get my hands on it, but I foresee a lot of troodon packs just falling apart because no one is on the same page lol

Similar to how hard it is to find an actually decent omni pack

Except at least omni is large enough to support itself solo

[south oar]

This will be the case if you don't play with friends in vc, sometimes it's hard for this to work perfectly with a bunch of strangers you aren't talking to allowed, unless everyone is very coordinated and gets and understands each sound que

[rare fractal]

No different from any other animal really

Teamwork typically relies on each player knowing what to do

If they don't they'll screw it up

[south oar]

Pretty much

[weak dune]

True but most dinos aren't as small as troodon, which is about the same size as Hypsi is, right?

Its w/e either way, if it suffers to the point people can't play it, I'm sure it'll probably get some tweaks after a long time asking for them, but if its something that can die in one hit like Hypsi, playing it without a good group is going to be hard

[proud coral]

If it helps make Troodon venom cancelling itself out sound less odd, you can think of it like this!

Prey's immune system can more easily detect and fight larger quantities of venom. Too much = less effective. But if you inject just enough, more venom is able to slip past the filters of the immune system and, eventually, build up enough to be deadly

Made up and prolly wouldn't actually work that way in reality, but it's something

Of course in the end, it doesn't matter since balance is more important. But it's fun to imagine it this way.

[weak dune]

Honestly the explanation doesn't matter to me so much as viability. A lot of people who play the game don't read info about the dinosaur, they just plug and play, and its generally poor game design to make something that people have to pause/exit the game and go read a probably not accurate anyway wiki page or watch a bunch of youtube videos just to figure out what the "correct way" to play something without ruining your own experience is

When that "correct way" is literally your core mechanic that you can't really do without

[rare fractal]

That's why we need ability info

In game

Like how much damage does teno do with tailslam, etc

[modest dock]

@fresh loom #general-feedback bruh first thing i saw is suggesting to decrease omni speed while it is already pretty slow 💀

[rare fractal]

Omni is slow?! xD

[modest dock]

At least a little bit slower than i usually expected

But decreasing its actual speed would make it really slow in my thoughts

By the way and hopefully its still agile enough

[rare fractal]

How fast did you expect it to be

It's been the same speed since U3.75

[urban flax]

117 like in update 1

[rare fractal]

OH my mistake seems reasonable 👍

[fresh loom]

Well with decreased speed, it'll make you ambush things, instead of tail-ride a dinosaur untill it'll ran out of stamina to ez kill it. And i also suggested a stamina drain to be less whenever you pounce, so there is that

[lapis swallow]

but omni is not a ambusher

[fresh loom]

Since when?

Isn't the part of hunting where you need to ambush prey to have at least a chance to hunt and kill its prey

[clever tapir]

Its not slow just needs its animation sped up

the only things faster than it are gali and carno

[lapis swallow]

but why make it worse at ambushing?

[clever tapir]

I believe he is trying to say is make ambushing a bigger part of its playstyle.

[lapis swallow]

but making something worse at ambushing will not help with that lol

[fresh loom]

^^

[clever tapir]

Huh no one said make it worse?

[lapis swallow]

if you are slower, you are worse at ambushing

because the prey has a large timewindow to react

[fresh loom]

All i said is make it slower, and i have not how slow it needs to be, so it can be like 0.01 slower. Also, it has a pounce, you can use the pounce as a atwantage when it comes fo ambushing

[clever tapir]

thats why you need to find a balance, dont make it too slow but allow other creatures to at least have a chance

[lapis swallow]

pounce does not look like a good ambush tool for me. pin is a good ambush tool tho

[clever tapir]

I don't think you should be trying to pounce a dryo/hypsi/troodon, not when its fast or that small. pounce should be for things like teno and carno

[clever tapir]

its hard to hit a moving dryo

[lapis swallow]

but why make omni a ambusher when its better as a endurance pack hunter?lets give the ambush niche to utah, it fits it much better

omni needs the speed it has

[clever tapir]

I dont think he means make it a full ambusher just do something about raptor being overpowered against smaller creatures

[tight oxide]

isnt omni already a menace to anything smaller?

[lapis swallow]

yes

[tight oxide]

if you're lighter, you get pinned
so if omni manages to even pin something like mono...

[clever tapir]

yeah have you ever tried to play dryo against it

[tight oxide]

Nah, dryo isnt up to my taste yet
but trying to catch one is a chore at times

[lapis swallow]

a pin rework would be better, I think. because a instadelete button against everything smaller is just just lame and unhealthy for the game

[clever tapir]

that should be the point dont make catching a dryo too easy like it is now

[lapis swallow]

but the other stuff is a issue too, omni is just way too dominant against smaller creatures

[tight oxide]

PlS dOnT tAkE aWaY oMnI's OnE ePiC pErK

[tight oxide]

I never said to make it easy, so uh

[clever tapir]

I know im just saying its too easy rn

[tight oxide]

I mean eh, Dryo agility seems good enough, dodge is the iffy thing ig
also doesnt help how its missing what makes it dryo

[modest dock]

Well maybe i'm wrong and its just the animation that makes it feels kinda slow. I don't really think either that's really slow i just felt that it seems "slow" enough, neither i ever said it needed to be quicker. For me its alright as it is right now.

But no, don't make it slowier that's ridiculous if you have to escape something like a carno.

[modest dock]

I don't really see how decreasing speed changes ambushing... Like @lapis swallow said upper it just gives the prey a large timewindow to react. And making travels to long distances even worse

[fresh loom]

well i was mostly focusing onto Omni and smaller creatures that are smaller than Omni, like the dryo and Beipi, and it just feels un-fair for Smaller Creatures, aiming at the Dryo the most, is slower than a omni, and Omni can use the "tail-riding Technique" to kill its prey, to which it sounds just un-fair and boring

which is why nerfing the speed, it's not for "Waah waah i am so slow than a carno" as if it has its charge to Train-destroy you already, but for hunting purposes, to make the hunts, as a omni, less boring, and more of a having a purpose. this also add the prey, like dryo, have a chance of escaping and using its dodge as a advantage

[lapis swallow]

omni dont just hunt dryos and stuff. they need the speed to hunt other stuff, like tenos and pachys

[fresh loom]

but the tenos and pachys are A fighters, so they will fight you like you wound fight a goat as a example

[rare fractal]

Omni should totally be made by some means, worse at targeting animals smaller than itself or around its own size simply by virtue of pounce being a tool in its arsenal

It increases its prey range far beyond what most animals in its size range can reasonably even attack

Like I genuinely don’t care how they plan on rebalancing pin

[urban flax]

There's a lot of things that need to be looked at regarding omni and the fact it entirely decides the balance of every animal within its size range

[rare fractal]

It just needs to go

[urban flax]

Like the absolutely ridiculous weights we're getting for galli, dryo, and omni itself

[rare fractal]

Animals are balanced specifically around it above most other engagements simply by virtue of Omni lacking bad circumstances

It’s effective everywhere and can fight almost everything

[urban flax]

What if pin did a set amount of damage and bleed then released its prey ?
Like 150/200 damage and then the prey frees itself
I know it's not great but still better than an instakill move

[rare fractal]

It’s better

It should still be completely removed

Because that’s still an instant kill against most animals that attack lands on

But also because the attack is just incredibly lame and shouldn’t exist in omnis hands

[urban flax]

I think pinning should stay, for the sake of coherence
Else what would happen if you try to pounce something smaller than yourself ?

[rare fractal]

Maybe for a different creature but not it

[rare fractal]

Probably just does a bites worth of damage

[urban flax]

Also, maybe pin should only work from behind

[rare fractal]

Agreed

Like if it’s going to exist it has to be insanely difficult to land on a creature that knows you exist

[urban flax]

And we need locational pounce too...

[rare fractal]

Also also that

Because I’m sorta tired of teleportation

And animals lacking any bad angles

You jump into a creature anywhere and you’ve succeeded

[urban flax]

I remember someone asking for more auto-aim for pounce because they complained they kept pouncing their packmate who were already latched on a target instead of automatically teleporting to their target's other side

[rare fractal]

I….wow…that’s genuinely quite sad

It’s almost like players just want any sort of critical though removed from the playables to simplify them as much as possible

Like imagine wanting to play a creature because it’s emblematic of strategy and punching above your weight, the underdog so to speak….
The identity of the creature attracts you to it, then you lobby for the animals identity to be essentially stripped away piece by piece until it practically performs the steps for you

[lapis swallow]

that would be cool

[urban flax]

We live in a society

[rare fractal]

Allegedly

[modest dock]

Well yeah, i really do agree that pounce need an overhaul

But lets be honest a lot of things in this game needs to be reworked too at some point.

[rare fractal]

Pounce is just at the top of that list

Or at least close to it

[modest dock]

With carno-charge hitbox too

And flying fishes

And ragdolls

Anyway, you know the rest

[barren zephyr]

@fresh loom was that suggestion a joke?

[fresh loom]

depends on how you would view it, why?

[barren zephyr]

"Delete troodon"

[fresh loom]

what is troodon, i've never heard of it

[barren zephyr]

...is that sarcasm?

I genuinely cant tell

[fresh loom]

oke in honesty, idk what's the point of Troodon in the first place. Troodon is just a weak smaller Omni that the only unique thing about it, its the fact that its small and has a venom,

[urban flax]

Let me guess, you're one of those people who thinks "bigger=better" right ?

Omni shouldn't exist, it's just a smaller rex with pounce

[barren zephyr]

Logic

[fresh loom]

well not rlly, because you have beipi, dryo and Hypsi, and while they're small, they can be fun from time to time

[urban flax]

But for some reason, troodon can't ?

[barren zephyr]

Devs have worked hard on troodon and you're asking them to just delete it? Its literally already finished

[fresh loom]

the thing is: With troodon, you have to rely on a horde, work co-ordingally and use venom as your advantage to hunt creatures, that also counts for Omni, in which its the same neash, exept it's a pack-wise, and you don't have a venom. What makes Troodon unfun, its the fact of its small size and it can be killed. Hell, a dryo can 3 Tap it and it'll die, unless a troodon is a skilled Player. Now with a groups of 2, a dryo would not stand a chance, but it could try. Aslo with a horde of Troodons, it will be so much difficult to co-operate, bc sometimes the other Troods would do their own thing.

[urban flax]

So your point is "bigger=better"

[barren zephyr]

Dryo vs troodon the better player should win in that scenario

2 vs a dryo the troodons should definitely win

Dryo can just run away though

[fresh loom]

yeah

it's just the whole (why play this, if you already have this) thing

[urban flax]

So when rex releases you're gonna play it exclusively ?

[fresh loom]

No, because A: It's gonna be on a Unofficial. And B: i prefer to play more than just a rex

[barren zephyr]

Devs are apparently only letting the smaller dinos on (for now) officials. Even stego is going to be replaced from officials

That way they dont have to make humans super strong to kill rexes without them being op against smaller creatures

@potent flower but i think its better if they encourage unofficials

We need unofficial servers with rules

[fresh loom]

well humans exist there to just exist for now, and they would finish humans later, but not now. also they are Exclusive to Unofficials so there's that

[barren zephyr]

But they will be transported to officials

[fresh loom]

well it depends on what update, we could potentially get them at U7 or later down the updates

[barren zephyr]

Ngl after reading your suggestion again

I am so glad you're not a dev

[fresh loom]

thank you for the Opinion, i will make sure i'll make another one better

[potent flower]

Don't you have to apply to get on those?

[lucid mauve]

Well depends prob on how you play,if you want to rely on others as omni does more is better. If you wanne solo/duo larger is good since you can kill and defend yourself.

The good thing is if you have both options,so people can choose more their own playstyle

[hallow umbra]

I honestly dont know lol

[grand folio]

the pain of waiting to play the murder duck

[hallow umbra]

the pain of waiting to play anything

[barren zephyr]

I mean, people have made several servers already

Nobody plays them though

Some unofficial servers need passwords but not many

Make sure you're in the unofficial tab

[potent flower]

oh i can see them

[nocturne spruce]

I just want people to understand where I'm coming from

I'm often misgendered in isle chat, so this could work in a way that makes the game more inclusive.

[shrewd phoenix]

considering how the isle community is thats never going to be a thing. This may or may not help, but if you arent already try think about the fact that people may be adressing your dinosaur and not really you

[nocturne spruce]

My dinosaur has pronouns if I do

[jovial hazel]

Dinosaurs can't talk.

[proud coral]

I mean they're changing it in 6.5 from select gender to select sex anyways

[feral solstice]

Excuse me

[shrewd phoenix]

youre assigning human-only gender roles to animals that do not have a sense of gender, you can headcannon your character as using pronouns and such but you cant expect the game to reflect that as its meant to be realistic in that regard

[feral solstice]

I get you want to be pronounced properly but like, this is a dinosaur game. Or hell, even other games don’t even bother with it because why? You can just tell people your pronouns or ignore people who don’t bother respecting it.

[shrewd phoenix]

i do think purposefully missgendering someone should be an actionable offense, but i dont think the dev team has any resources put into moderating the game at all atm, i dont think theres even a block button? it can be rough (lots of kids and kids can be cruel), but placing a pronoun box over dinos head isnt the way to go around it imo

[steep warren]

then just put your pronouns in your nametag, simple as that

[scenic oriole]

With the different scent markers I think that's a great idea! I believe the devs are playing on doing that but with feathers for Theri??? I'm not a 100% sure but if they are I'm sure adding shed, feces and other scent markers wouldn't be as bad. Seeing as they did it with puke just fine for cerato

[bleak bison]

@nocturne spruce

[dense plover]

Continuing on a bit about the hatchling play behavior, perhaps the stat boosts could boost 1-3 RANDOM stats entirely. (Except growth rate.) This could be a pretty small way to have nested-in dinosaurs to be unique from one another in small ways.

[rare fractal]

Nah

Just sends balance into a hellish whirlpool of dysfunction

Stats are ideally not even effected by perks much let alone nesting

[dense plover]

Why I was saying have the stat boosts be small overall. Or perhaps make it semi-random. Where depending on the species the stat boost could affect 1 of 3 stats that would help that species.

[rare fractal]

Or just none at all

Because it’s entirely unnecessary and really messes with breakpoints

[dense plover]

It was just an idea to help incentivize nesting. By having hatchlings have the ability to play with each other to simulate how many animals learn how to be adults by playing as babies.

[rare fractal]

That’s entirely fine

The stat boosts are the only issue

[jovial hazel]

I think something was said about elder system tied into being nested in? Or am I misremembering.

Maybe that's just community speculation.

[rare fractal]

Yes, I believe that’s still planned

[dense plover]

But then what else could play do other than be a cute cosmetic thing?

[rare fractal]

Elders

Oh play?

[dense plover]

Other than give a minimal stat boost

[rare fractal]

Practicing mechanical skill

[dense plover]

Yeah

[rare fractal]

Sparring should exist in game anyway

There doesn’t need to be a reward for doing so accept for the experience tbh

It’s combat practice

[dense plover]

I was thinking having it activated like courting behavior would be the simplest way to do it for developers.

And I was thinking how much you played directly tied to how large of a stat boost. With a max 5% boost to a single stat. With perhaps a cool down (longer cooldown for slower growing Dino’s.) so people can’t spam playing.

And losing the ability to play upon reaching Juvie stage

[rare fractal]

The stat boost is entirely unnecessary still

[dense plover]

Let’s agree to disagree

[south oar]

glad to see my cave suggestion was taken well : D

[shrewd phoenix]

@barren zephyr your suggestion is good, but in the meantime you can move where you want your steam notifications to show up to other corners of the screen

[barren zephyr]

Fr? I have always wanted that

Can you tell me how?

[shrewd phoenix]

Ive seen this guide a few times, havent used it so im not sure if it still works though
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2231640938

[barren zephyr]

Ty, I'll have to try it later though

[shrewd phoenix]

[subtle moss]

I would like to address things I have seen from you in the server as I have read all your messages and seen arguments in the server started BY YOU it's not all about you or your sexually, it's a dino survival game, don't get me wrong I'm LGBT but don't start this stuff the game doesn't need Pronouns for dinos, the game has its set genders/sex we don't need a "no Gender" or Pronouns, you have fought with mod(s) in the server over small things, tbh I'm tired of seeing you annoy others in this server they don't deserve that, so please stop starting fights in the server it's annoying for everyone. :D

[cyan flame]

@stray leaf @steep ginkgo I think part of the point of limited chats is to avoid making it too social and "birdbath sim". Much as it would be nice at times to talk to others, mixing is already bad and shouldn't be helped out. On top of that, this is meant to be hardcore survival horror, probably not the game you're meant to be friendly and chill in. The "proper" attitude towards others is far more likely to be "kill them before they kill you" honestly, and if you think the other guy can kill you and you can't return the sentiment, you run very far away.

[stray leaf]

Survival horror game? to me It's a player driven eco system. Dunno how this is a horror game but ok..

mixing is bad but the KOSing and lack of player interactivity is worse in my opinion. Animals hunting to eat is as apart of an eco system is the point. The isle isn't a deathmatch my guy, killing everyone before they kill you makes the game senseless and unrealistic. The game plays so much better on private servers. Theres nothing "proper" about officials at all.

[maiden anvil]

@clear kindle It is a cool idea indeed. The only thing that concerns me is if they body will stay up in the tree with it or fall down. Then it also depends how heavy it is

[cyan flame]

That is their intention at least. Sure, for now it's not really much of that, but they do want it. It's not really a dino/eco sim, or at least not meant to be. Also we do have AI as well for the ecosystem, such as it is. Now for the KoS, far as I know, the devs don't see that as a problem at all, it's fine to kill as you see fit in the game. And you're right, it's not a deathmatch, not at all, I wasn't trying to say it was. More so trying to point out the mentality you as the player should have. No you're not meant to actively go around and fight and kill all the time, far from it, but you're meant to have the mentality of "Its me, and possibly my pack vs everything else, and everything else wants me dead more often than not" and act accordingly. Officials is also how the game is meant to be played, or how the devs intend it, be it unfinished for now, so there is that. What rules may be needed, they plan to fix with in game mechanics as much as they can.

[stray leaf]

How do you know their intention?

[rare fractal]

That’s what they said they’re going for

On numerous occasions

[stray leaf]

Where?

got a statement or patch notes i can read?

[rare fractal]

Not on hand

It’s not worth debating it’s just so demonstrably true

[stray leaf]

is it in like steam update things?

[rare fractal]

Ask any dev when they’re in chat and they’ll confirm it

[stray leaf]

Devs don't talk to ppl lol

[rare fractal]

I can’t remember, might be, whenever they pop into the general discussion chat from time to time they tell us things

The fact that the end goal is a horror game has been reiterated hundreds of times

[stray leaf]

gross

[rare fractal]

Kissen, punch, dondi…etc

[stray leaf]

ok ty tho

[rare fractal]

Mhm

[cyan flame]

Punch do, Kissen occasionally do as well, and even one or two of the others have talked in Isle discussion a few times.

[rare fractal]

Oh most main devs have

Bryan, Jace, Tap

Etc

[cyan flame]

Also for the intentions, no I do not have any statements on hand, but well, they removed chats for a reason and have said people will have to wait for mods to get things like global chat back. I think that would be close enough to take for "They don't want you to sit around and chat with others", but maybe not.

[stray leaf]

fair enough.

[rare fractal]

It’s primarily to limit communication across species

To make each animal feel more like a faction than just a class

[stray leaf]

scary call of duty dinosaurs gotcha

[cyan flame]

@formal axle Humans are very much part of the "base" of the game, and have always been intended. It is not just a dino sim, even if it seems that way for now. Also we're getting four new dinos in the next update, so they're already doing what you're asking for. Oh and the devs working on dinos can do so while the devs working on humans do that, so no worries.

[formal axle]

That's not exactly my point...
Devs splitting work is what keeping the isle in a. Slow development...
All the devs should first finish the roster then they all should finish other things...
Making two paintings at once will take more time then making just one...

[rare fractal]

Not even close

[rare fractal]

The people who work on humans don’t work on dinosaurs

[formal axle]

Right now humans aren't the base...
Remove humans from game and no one would care.
But remove dinos and everyone would lose their mind....
So dinos are and will always be the base.
Humans are the cheese in isle pizza

[rare fractal]

There’s no work being split, there are divisions of the team hired to do specific things

[stray leaf]

You'd think optimization would be the first thing tbh..

rather that than new dinos

[rare fractal]

The people who optimize the game don’t usually make those Dino’s

[stray leaf]

i see

[rare fractal]

People have different jobs based on what they were hired for

Also optimization is a borderline infinite process, any new addition needs to be optimized for

[formal axle]

Then they should have hired more for dinos instead 🤠
Because yk Right now we only have 9 dinos.
And even after 4 more are added it wouldn't change a lot.
Until they add nearly 30+ dinos...
Because Isle map is huge...

[stray leaf]

indie company btw

[rare fractal]

There’s no such thing as “right now they’re not the base”
It’s an objective truth that humans are apart of the base, the game is fundamentally reliant on them, they’re fundamental to the games completion, both to their own gameplay as well as the Dino’s.

[rare fractal]

They literally just did that ironically

What was it….2-3 new animators just got hired

[stray leaf]

nice

[formal axle]

Let's hope it speeds things up..!!!

[rare fractal]

Speed isn’t particularly important tbh

[formal axle]

Waiting for update 6.5 is killing me 🤣

[rare fractal]

Quality should always come before speed

[cyan flame]

You're right, because we don't have humans in the game, my point was more so that we need them. Focusing more on dinos when there's things like humans/tribals missing isn't ideal. We got a 60 or so roster, I don't think we'll wait to get all of them before getting humans or tribals honestly, since those two are as much a part of it, or has been said to be, as the dinos themselves.

[rare fractal]

Simply hiring more devs doesn’t aid that

[rare fractal]

If humans don’t get added alongside the Dino’s the Dino’s won’t be fully designed for the completed version of the game

[formal axle]

Even if that's true which I know it is.
But you can't deny the fact that removing dinos from the game would impact it more then humans. And that's a Fact.
No arguing that.
Even if they are in the base ..

[rare fractal]

Redesigning the entire roster to account for them is bad

[cyan flame]

Well yes, but... no one argued for removing them?

[rare fractal]

Well yeah, because they’re more necessary for development in the earlier stages to establish the baseline for creatures going forward…
Also the value of features yet to be developed can’t be determined by how impactful it would be to remove them now

Because they are, again, underdeveloped

Comparatively

[cyan flame]

Guns go pew pew! :D

[rare fractal]

Basically

[formal axle]

They shouldn't remove anything...
Humans should be added...
But once the dinos are done.

[rare fractal]

No

That would lead to the Dino’s being poorly designed

[formal axle]

Why?

[rare fractal]

Because they wouldn’t be designed with the ability to account for humans since they’ve been balanced and mechanically generated without them

[formal axle]

You said people who work on dinos are different from the ones that work on humans

[rare fractal]

They’d have to do a redesign pass on each dino

Which is a waste of time

[formal axle]

They already like to do that.
They miss features on purpose and add them later on.
Remember troodon mimic?

[rare fractal]

Yeah the mechanic that is specifically meant for human interaction? Wasn’t designed yet because it wasn’t necessary for the animal rn

It wouldn’t be able to use it in any meaningful way currently

[formal axle]

Imagine if call of duty had less guns and less skins.
People would immediately start complaining about that.
Then why is it any different with the isle having less dinos 🤔

[cyan flame]

But no one argued that things should be removed, or have less? More so that they shouldn't only focus on adding dinos because they're only a part of what the game is meant to be. It'd be a better comparison if CoD had more in it than just guns and skins, but kept adding only the guns and skins, and only after added the rest of what the game was supposed to contain.

[formal axle]

But cod did add guns and other things first then added vehicles structures etc.
The priority was always guns and skins.
And other things were just icing on the mountain...

They didn't delete a thing and same can be done for the isle

[cyan flame]

So their priority was only part of what the game was promised to contain then? Also why do you keep claiming deletion of things, again, no one argued that. Where do you get that from?

[formal axle]

I never wanted them to delete a thing.
I wanted them to focus on dinos more.

[cyan flame]

... So why do you keep talking about that when no one ever mentioned deleting things? I'm sorry but I don't see why that is even a concern. You want them to focus on dinos more, which is fair, but I'd rather they add the rest of the game, first and foremost the full lifecycle and reason to survive for the dinos, and then adding humans and other things, at least together with adding a new dino here and there as it's done.

[formal axle]

The best way. But I don't think they are going down that route 😔😕

[latent olive]

[rare fractal]

Well first off, I want to delegitimize the example entirely because it's not at all relevant how people would react if all the dinosaurs were removed or if all the human content was removed....the value of both isn't determined by how people would react NOW, it's determined by their importance to the completion of the game, humans are no more or less necessary to all of the dinos combined for the game to function...

That is intrinsically true by virtue of the dinosaur's entire progression system tying in with humans directly

Like why does it matter what the community at large would prefer be removed from the game, the answer is obviously the dinos because they've recieved more developement

That doesn't mean the theoretical future of human developement is any less important

[worthy gorge]

@nocturne spruce i don’t think you should be able to pick “non gender” for your dinosaur. For one thing dinosaurs can’t be non gendered, and another, we are controlling the dinosaur. This is not to sound anti lgbtq (hint: i’m gay as hell) but i don’t think that should be brought into a dinosaur game

[inland wind]

LGBTQ 🏳️‍🌈 in the isle that's one of the wildest Suggestions ever 😂🤣

[nocturne spruce]

@stray leaf

This game has been, by the devs, described as a survival horror game. Currently it may not be, but "survival horror game" is the path this game is taking

Take your aspirations for chat-sim dinogames elsewhere

[nocturne spruce]

It's way different

Dinos in the isle is far different than guns and skins in CoD

[outer sphinx]

Yea we have 9 dinos, 9 very unique dinos that fill different niches

This beats in every way the mess of legacy's roster of copycats with statchanges

[nocturne spruce]

also

The dinos aren't what makes EVRIMA special. Many other games have dinos in them..

What makes EVRIMA special is how our dino game is the only dino-game out there that focuses alot on attention to detail, and quality. Rather than quantity

[outer sphinx]

What makes EVRIMA EVRIMA is more or less everything, from dino playables, night time, survival, gore, mechanics, combat etc

[nocturne spruce]

The key thing we see in EVRIMA opposed to other dino games is how quality-based this game is

We never get half-assed updates

[outer sphinx]

Welll.... depends if you count balancing half assed

[nocturne spruce]

We always get something big and gamechanging

[stray leaf]

Never said i wanted a dino chat sim you half wit

Go seek delusional gender conforming else where

[nocturne spruce]

you're literally implying it here

[stray leaf]

not the same as chat sim

[nocturne spruce]

I'm not allowing you to be condescending, so you'll stop saying stuff like "half wit" and phobic stuff from now on. Thanks

[stray leaf]

You started being condescending first

[nocturne spruce]

It is, because if you remove the elements you just criticized - what we get is a chat sim

I was never condescending or insulting, you're the one that outright insulted me lol

If we remove "KOS" from EVRIMA, you get a chat sim

[stray leaf]

Go find xxxx else where is condescending and exclusionist

You were being a d head

[nocturne spruce]

I don't like when EVRIMA is suggested to be a chat sim by some random

[nocturne spruce]

Refer to a message where I insulted you. (it doesn't exist)

[nocturne spruce]

meanwhile you calling me a halfwit

[stray leaf]

refer to where i said you were condescending

didn't say u insulted me

directly

[nocturne spruce]

lmao

[nocturne spruce]

I never directly, nor indirectly insulted you. you're just twisting my words

[stray leaf]

No i'm not. "go take your chat sim aspiration was you being intentionally rude.

don't be obtuse

[nocturne spruce]

You're making an assumption suggesting I was rude, yet you can't objectively define that sentence as "rude"

First you twist my words, then you twist my intention

[stray leaf]

It was rude mate, stop trying to be big brain about this

[nocturne spruce]

Bottom line is that EVRIMA should not be a chat sim,

so I respectfully reject your suggestion

[stray leaf]

respect me and i will respect you

thats it

[stray leaf]

never suggested it should be one.

[nocturne spruce]

You did

[stray leaf]

No you are mistaken

[nocturne spruce]

I don't identify as being mistaken

[stray leaf]

allowing local chat doesn't make the game a chat simulation

[nocturne spruce]

YES IT DOES

[lucid mauve]

But why not just keep it to species? If not you promote mixpacking

[graceful raven]

@nocturne spruce intersex dinos did exist but youre not supposed to identify with the dino? it doesnt represent you so why would you need that

[nocturne spruce]

With all due respect, local chat and "no kos"

would 100% make the game a chat-simulator

[graceful raven]

and can you stop typing with that font? it’s annoying

[stray leaf]

^^^^

[nocturne spruce]

Can you find me a source that says you shouldn't identify with your dino

[stray leaf]

watch out he/she or whatever mite screen shot u

[graceful raven]

common sense?? its a dinosaur?

[nocturne spruce]

There have been many people in history resorting to their idea of "common sense" and ended up committting atrocities.

"common sense" is not a valid argument