general-feedback-discussion

[limber hull]

evolution

[urban flax]

much better

[barren crater]

I'll play it to mainly troll. I always wanted to mess with other players in a dino game as a human. Maybe even sabotage

[uneven mist]

Sabotaged other humans as humans m

[lapis swallow]

This dude

[limber hull]

I love getting a bunch of friends and being scared shitless lmao

[urban flax]

Carnos got hemophilia

[barren crater]

[lapis swallow]

I want a push mechanic for humans to yeet your friends off cliffs

[limber hull]

i'm just excited for proxy VC

[urban flax]

Add knockback to their kick
And you can recreate the infamous "this is sparta" scene

[uneven mist]

I hope magy gets its yeet so that I can throw troodons and smal Utah off cliffs

[barren crater]

same but also yikes

[limber hull]

i still remember playing GTFO with mates, and the whole time I was loudly eating chips and the entire VC was just three other dudes going "Wavepoole, shut the fuck up"

[lapis swallow]

Imagine the screams of somebody when the person falls of a cliff

[limber hull]

there is never a yikes to proxy VC. It is ALWAYS a good feature

[urban flax]

So excited for a very loud guy with a terrible mic and his mother cooking dinner right next to him to enter VC

[barren crater]

"UTAH"

[barren crater]

Fair. Good content all round

[uneven mist]

When you play humans: you wil hear screams. When you play Dino’s you wil hear: death trooper sounds

[barren crater]

I want to see how angry I can make someone for them to call me a slur

[lapis swallow]

The simps when they realise there is a girl in the vc

[limber hull]

My official term for the "very loud, low quality mic" is "Walmart tornado mic" because
A: Very accurate
B: It's a fucking hilarious thing to call it

[urban flax]

Or that one guy who says absolutely nothing and just forgot his mic is still on while he's eating chips in front of his computer

[barren crater]

I love background noise in proxy

[limber hull]

i did that to piss off my mates in a very tense situation. It's hysterical

[lapis swallow]

The ten year old that fucked the entire vcs mother is a good one

[urban flax]

Oh and there is also this person who enters VC just to play VERY LOUD music non-stop

[uneven mist]

Funny thing is that Dino’s won’t hear it, they wil only hear death trooper sounds

[barren crater]

I hope there is finishers for humans, so I can quickly silence someone like that

[lapis swallow]

Or the super scared dude that screams constantly because of the smallest things (that would be me)

[limber hull]

i want to see the person spamming Thomas the Tank Engine earrape in VC be either
A: Immediately killed by a utahraptor
B: Immediately have their brains blown out by the person next to them

[urban flax]

good for them

[barren crater]

Let me grab them from behind and stab

[uneven mist]

I wil be both

[urban flax]

Second most likely
I'll always keep a spare bullet in case such a person arrives

[lapis swallow]

Hans get zhe flammenwerfer

[lapis swallow]

Rule number 3: always keep a bullet for annoying fucks that disturb you in vcs

[barren crater]

and people don't want humans. Look at the potential smh

[urban flax]

A silver bullet for dinos
And a steel bullet for humans

[limber hull]

I SO want non-lethal humans to be a thing. Hiding in safe zones, using what little ammo I have in the direst of emergencies, driving a jeep across the wide plains after stealing a carno egg and having both parents chase me with EXTREME conviction, so on

[lapis swallow]

I am actually hyped for humans now

[uneven mist]

Imagine playing humans while exploring docks or a huge building in the night

[urban flax]

And kick babies do death

[lapis swallow]

docktah pulls up

[uneven mist]

True

[limber hull]

kicking babies to death was actually the least fun I had in the humans beta tbh

I much preferred exploring

And being hunted by big scary shit

[urban flax]

I had epic duels with juvie utahs

And with a carno too

[barren crater]

Human beta was so cool. Very eerie sticking into the forest as carnos and utahs ran around. I still remember being chased by a stego

[visual dust]

Genuinely this would be so awesome

I don’t want humans to have guns at all

[barren crater]

guns are fine

short ranged ones that is imo

[urban flax]

As long as they're not OP or too common

I also think humans should have many close-combat options

[barren crater]

I still want a pistol and shotty

[urban flax]

In order to justify the scarceness of guns and because combat in The Isle is one of the best of any survival game

[uneven mist]

Weapons that are mostly for smals-Smal mid tiers like cera and carno

[barren crater]

Also a good dagger

[limber hull]

Nah, I really like the idea of me driving a jeep as two of my mates shoot the pursuing carno with pistols and the mate in the passenger seat just yells "DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE WHY ARE THEY SO FUCKING FAST JESUS CHRIST GO FASTER"

[visual dust]

Lol

[barren crater]

Carno charge causes the jeep to topple

[urban flax]

And the driver answers "sorry I gotta afk" then the jeep stops

[limber hull]

I really want to see a jeep get fucking totalled for crashing into trees or big animals

[barren crater]

Same

[limber hull]

Hit a trike, the trike is hurt, sure, but it's also pissed, and you're fucked

[visual dust]

Nah the driver was actually in a vc with the carno and stops the jeep so the carno can eat you

[barren crater]

Lmao probs will happen

[lapis swallow]

That is my fear, mixpacking will be on another level

[glass pecan]

What worries me is the part that touches the dinosaurs...

[limber hull]

?

[lapis swallow]

Huh?

[glass pecan]

the place where they are...

[limber hull]

Also imagine sitting in a jeep, the driver simply utters the words "check this shit" and turns a beautiful family of dryos into roadkill

[lapis swallow]

Just fucking tell me what you mean

[limber hull]

???

[barren crater]

Please. I need to see that

[lapis swallow]

"oh a baby dryo" drives over it

[glass pecan]

I mean I'm worried that dinosaurs will be relegated to second place.

[limber hull]

Imagine flying a helicopter and shredding a flock of pteras lmao

[limber hull]

Why would they be?

[barren crater]

How

Humans are the ones playing around the dinosaurs, not the other way

[lapis swallow]

A fucking 450 kg predator that can run 46.8 kmh getting supressed by fucking naked monkeys

[limber hull]

one pounce = dead human

one charge = dead human

one ram = dead human

one lunge = dead human

[urban flax]

Imagine flying a helicopter and a hyper quetz dives-bomb you, destroying the chopper and yeeting your friend screaming in the sky, although he did nothing wrong

[lapis swallow]

One kick in the nuts of a male human= dead human

[limber hull]

hyper-quetz is frankly very based and I'd love to see that thing

[low canopy]

biggest weakness of monke is the first person camera however, its really easy to sneak up on one

[limber hull]

dude the amount of vids I saw from the beta of humans getting jumpscared

and that's BEFORE we add proper nighttimes and night vision

humans are going to get fucking OBLITERATED in the dark

better to stay inside frankly

[visual dust]

I hope the flashlight is kept as a default item because that visual is soooo cool

[limber hull]

very likely will be

i love the idea of humans panicking at nightfall

since they have probably the worst night vision out of every creature in the roster

also thats when troodon come out to play and humans REALLY should not be out during troodon hours

[visual dust]

I wonder what the human gameplay loop will be, personally I’m hoping they’ll be doing maintenance around the island and observing the dinosaurs

[barren crater]

night gameplay is also very, very fun

[limber hull]

saame

I want a camera item just to make mockumentaries while risking my life

[visual dust]

Like your task could be “restart the generator at facility b” and you have to go across the island to get there

[limber hull]

I WILL creating an interesting and engaging presentation about the natural lives of these beautiful animals, even if it KILLS ME

[visual dust]

Yessssssss

[limber hull]

apparently repairs will be a thing and a necessary thing at that

imagine a radio item that ONLY works if the radio tower works lmao

uh oh, radio's out boys, time to make the climb

[visual dust]

Imagine the power goes out in your facility and you slowly hear the calls of utahraptors getting closer and closer while you desperately try to find the generator

[uneven mist]

Or troodons

[limber hull]

i think they confirmed gens can be damaged/destroyed and will need repairs

[visual dust]

Hehe nice

[limber hull]

or troodons pretending to be utahs

[uneven mist]

[limber hull]

:P

[glass pecan]

And what will the nesting of humans be like?

[barren crater]

huh

[limber hull]

it wont

mercs dont nest. they're mercs. Tribals I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure they aren't getting anything

[glass pecan]

😂

[barren crater]

ah

Tribal nesting 🥰 || Please do not be a thing||

[lapis swallow]

Tribal courting

[barren crater]

🥰

[worn pumice]

Juvi merc gameplay?

[lapis swallow]

💥 🔫 (I cant find the pistol emoji)

[worn pumice]

[crisp topaz]

Radio tower repair for working radios sounds lit af

Then you have dinos going to sabatoge it

[ebon locust]

Who downvotes a request for better performance

[jagged jewel]

@bitter jay these animals would be unique how exactly?

chalico seems like worse cheirus

and gorgonopsid like worse megalania

[zealous violet]

I think the devs dont really care what time period an animal comes from, I think they more are looking at what looks more like your typical 'dinosaur' so anything furry or fuzzy isnt going to cut it.

[jagged jewel]

^

[crimson flax]

would be nice if u could make the water look like this again

[vernal drum]

That's not important💀it would be cool seeing the natural enemy of the allo roaming on the isle

[proud coral]

[vernal drum]

More dinos=A more beautiful game

[uneven mist]

Like 56-57 animals isn’t enough

[proud coral]

One of them must be Argentavis because I said so

[vernal drum]

No, more

[uneven mist]

We don’t really need trovo bc we already have a competition for allo: Alberto

[vernal drum]

Ok I understand

[proud coral]

Me

[uneven mist]

Yes you

[uneven mist]

True, argentavis competing against rex when

[proud coral]

[bitter jay]

Then they might as well add koolasuchus or Dimetrodon lmao

[bitter jay]

YOU’RE A WORSE MEGALANIA AND CHEIRUS

[jagged jewel]

It really is

[jagged jewel]

bruh

[jagged jewel]

no lmao those look nothing like dinos and wouldn’t work

Sure your suggestion would look cool, but it wouldn’t work well for the game

[burnt bone]

I’m not sure if it’s “they look like cool dinos, so they’re in” it’s more “what can this animal do that another doesn’t?”
Chalico looks like a mid-tier theri, which could be interesting if you give it something to separate it from theri, beipi, and cheri.
And gorgonopsids likely won’t work because we already have a bloated small tier carnivore roster.

[jagged jewel]

Chalico would behave too much like a cheirus reskin with different stats to work properly

[bitter jay]

Well, it’d not be an omnivore is the thing. It’s a horse panda, ya know? Also, yeah alright. Guess it’s just not this game, eh? I mean, they’re gonna be adding that huge terrestrial crocodilomorph from South America right? That’s gotta count for something.

Yeah, Barinasuchus

[burnt bone]

I’d have to see all the abilities of them and how they play out to tell. There is definitely ways to make it work, but it may not be the best. The 3 claw bois we got are good enough for now.

[bitter jay]

Actually, Teno may be the closest to Chalicotherium sorta, with the way it uses its claws

It would be like a teno sorta that moves less often and less quickly and focuses on trees

[burnt bone]

Teno and chalico are VERY different. Teno has one claw swipe attack, that’s the only similarity. Chalico claws would basically punt most small Dinos and hurt larger dinos quite a bit. Teno uses every body part to defend itself, claw swipe is just a light attack for it.

[bitter jay]

I guess I meant how the animation it has when eating mountain ash lol

Somewhat close maybe idk very different animals though

[jagged jewel]

No they’re not. They’re adding rauisuchus, which is way smaller

Also being a herbivore doesn’t make it unique

It’d just be worse cheirus.
Less hp, less attack, less survivability.

[bitter jay]

https://tenor.com/view/big-lebowski-the-dude-gif-12898403

[jagged jewel]

i don’t see how this is subjective

[drifting steeple]

It really is subjective tbh

[jagged jewel]

How? A chal is just a smaller, faster cheirus

Same type of attack

Same niche

And also would oversaturate the roster even more

As if 56 playables weren’t enough

[bitter jay]

Nah, way different niche. Cheirus is a wetland animal and Chalicotherium was a open woodland/steppe/savannah animal

[jagged jewel]

What would it compete with? What would its main predators be? How would it fight back?

What makes it worth to play this animal over other animals?

Would this animal have any unique mechanic associated with it?

If not, what would its alt attacks be?

What are its stats?

You see where I’m going with this?

I’d love to see a cenozoic dlc for the isle when the main game is done, but i think the current main roster is too big for this

I’d enjoy seeing the team’s takes on some mammal designs

[bitter jay]

This I can definitely agree on

The rest? Give me an hour to give you full stats

[jagged jewel]

They can make creative designs, so seeing them on more modern looking animals would be interesting

[jagged jewel]

Sure thing, i’ll probably not respond soon cuz i gotta do stuff but in some hours i’ll respond to you

[bitter jay]

Kk

Oh, I’d like to see how they’d interpret ground sloths

Whether they’re furry or more sparsely haired

[drifting steeple]

Thatd be dope

[bitter jay]

Oh, and a Cenozoic dlc would have to have a much much drier and likely more open map than the current one. Maybe more like the Savannah with some Forest and steppe

[uneven mist]

@short berry do you mean more species? Also compi is a thing in eveima. It’s a small ai scavenger

[short berry]

Ohh.. Opps i did a typo there.
Sorry! But yes, it would be cool if compi were a thing

[uneven mist]

It already is a thing, it’s ai and I think you wil be able to play it further down the line inn unofficial servers

[short berry]

I still wish to see rougher herbi options

[jagged jewel]

@fathom skiff utahs can’t reliably spam pounce

wastes too much stam + there’s a delay before the pounce does actual damage and bleed

[short berry]

Hmm my request were deleted

[icy lion]

Sorry, forgot to ping you. #phase-three-requests isn't for game suggestions, it's for content ideas for the teaser channel #phase-two-archive

#general-feedback is for suggestions

[short berry]

Oh okay! Sorry and thanks for telling me

[fathom skiff]

Sorry for the late reply, you make a good point however even after they miss a pounce and you were to go in for a bite they can just re pounce you again applying more bleed then just hopping off while only being bitten once. All of that dosent take much stam and the Utah basically gets away without being bitten twice or even 3 times because it didn’t pounce like .2 seconds after failing a pounce

[limber hull]

@balmy meadow cool idea, but deinosuchus is fine making a nest as-is. It's a very accurate way of building nests as many modern day alligators are known to build debris nests. Deinosuchus is closely related to alligators, burying is more of a croc thing

besides that, really cool

[balmy meadow]

Ooh you've got a point, Ill remove deino from it

There

[limber hull]

That was only a little nitpick tho, the whole idea is really cool imho and would def be cool to see

I also like the inclusion of many semi-aquatics, since they'd be near soft mud and would like to nest near the water

[proven river]

five seconds cooldown on utah pounce? I would cry

[proven river]

also ^

[balmy meadow]

Yep! Id think it'd be mainly semi-aquatic predators because they'd need to hunt most of the time, plus, their habitat would make sense for it

[proven river]

[limber hull]

thats true, they have less time to mind their nests

[balmy meadow]

I was going to add ones like Para and such, but they seem like they'd be either Type 1 or 2 considering they'd be more "motherly"

[limber hull]

i mean, would nesting in a burrow count as a "buried" nest

because then every burrower should have one

[balmy meadow]

I wouldnt think so, since its in a Burrow instead of just a Pit, meaning Minmi and other burrowers would use type 2, probably, or 1

[jagged jewel]

@bitter jay got the stats?

[merry blaze]

Question: With update 5.5 will there be new graphics (daytime lightning/colors) overall? Or just the nightvision?

[uneven mist]

Better day/night cycle and night vision. So mabye better daytime lighting

[nimble nebula]

are the new species of "flying fish" a known thing

[drifting steeple]

Not intentionally don't thinkl but everybody knows bout them

[nimble nebula]

lol k

[zealous violet]

I think we need a little 'last active 25 seconds ago' thing or something next to the available eggs. Twice now ive tried to get an egg but im guessing the person either abandoned the nest or is far away from it because both times I just sat waiting for quite a long time before giving up.

Tho, i dont think that would really help fix it.

[burnt bone]

Perhaps that could be worked into a status thing for the parents when you look at an egg. Such as the parents colors, general proximity to the nest, what nutrients they have, names of parents, etc. It would be good to know who your parents are before you are spawned into a nest.

[zealous violet]

Or maybe its only available when the parents are near the nest?
Like, it shows up how it does now but maybe theres a red and green light in that little space to the right of what dino it is and if its red that means theres no one near the nest and green if there are parents nearby?

[burnt bone]

That could work. But it still doesn’t show if the parents are afk or not.

[zealous violet]

Ohh yes, good paint. Hmmm how to account for that then I wonder?

Id suggest maybe an afk button too but thats sort of promoting afk playing and thats no good

[burnt bone]

Guess that’s just something that there’s not much of a solution. Just hope they don’t go afk.

[icy plover]

Maybe a yellow light for if the parent(s) are near but have been inactive for 10+ mins? (Obv the time can be adjusted for whatever would work best)

[proud coral]

For that flight rework suggestion....

Y E S

[honest sparrow]

agreed

[harsh copper]

i like the flight rework suggestion, tried pt for the first time last night and the flight felt just…. unenjoyable. i wish you could regen a bit of stam while gliding, even if it’s at a much slower pace than laying down. flight itself feels like it takes too much stamina because of this. i love the idea of the speed you get while gliding straight down carrying for a little bit if you angle back into a straight glide or upwards for a brief time as well

[tight oxide]

@solemn current bleed wasnt changed this update pretty sure...

also why would run with bleed as a pachy lol

I assume you were fighting utahs

in which case high bleed is their thing

[solemn current]

i know it did not get changed this patch but they changed in some patch

before it was not that strong before

[tight oxide]

nope they simply buffed utah's bleed somewhere between update 3 and 4 I think

which was forever ago

[solemn current]

so they changed it

...

[tight oxide]

yea? because utah pounce damage was nerfed :P

[solemn current]

pointless answer

[tight oxide]

just telling you the reason

though again utah bleed isnt suppose to be a tiny nothing to worry about debuff

as a pachy you have to limit movement as much as possible

[solemn current]

before the bleed was just to make u unable to run now it look like legacy bleed what a joke

[tight oxide]

bleed does the same?

legacy bleed mechanic was bad

as in it shouldnt be compared

evrima bleed severity varies

lower the blood, the lower your stamina regen is

and hp regen I think

[solemn current]

humm but before the bleed was not going down if u dont move

now it do

so what can i do

[tight oxide]

also I mean dont you think it was dumb how you could survive any bleed encounter in legacy just by sitting? reduces the effectiveness of bleeders

like if sitting didnt stop bleed from killing you then I bet rexes wouldnt be fighting trikes or gigas as much

[tight oxide]

its always been that way

[solemn current]

nope

[tight oxide]

mhm

they just made teno and utah bleeds better

small bleed isnt that noticeable until it starts stacking lol

[solemn current]

it is

[tight oxide]

you could legit hover your mouse over your blood bar to see the percentage still went down even when sitting

[tight oxide]

I dunno what you consider small bleed

anyways just know dont run with bleed if its draining fast lol

bleed makes you have to go on defense

[solemn current]

either way

it drain fast that buff is hella dumb

[tight oxide]

its really not if you play smart lol

dont let things stack bleed on you for one

and you do know how to buck raptors off you right?

[solemn current]

of course ik

[tight oxide]

then just dont let them stack bleed on you and dont run like crazy lol

bleed is fine as long as you know what to do usually

though sometimes you just gotta accept you died of blood loss

[solemn current]

yeah ur right the bleed is fine once u got 1 ur dead

good so good

[tight oxide]

1 what?

lol

each playable can give different amounts of bleed and has their own bleed hp

pachy and utah for example have small bleed hp bars

which means they bleed out easier

[solemn current]

this discussion is pointless i made my suggestion im gone

[tight oxide]

alr man

[echo tiger]

sssda

[limber hull]

@left nacelle a beipi ain't gonna be killing deinos. I'd agree more if it were any other animal. Also gore will be out by then

[deep notch]

is there a fix to the glitch where you cant turn, ive noticed it alot on deino

[uneven mist]

You aren’t able to turn around or?

[deep notch]

like if i hold q to turn left it just doesnt let me turn

[uneven mist]

Well I think this might help: If you are experiencing issues with your controls since the latest update (can't move camera, unable to court, etc) then please try wiping your config files in localappdata.

1. If running The Isle, exit the game.
2. Open File Explorer.
3. Click the address bar at the top.
4. Type %localappdata% then press Enter.
5. Find "TheIsle" folder. Open it.
6. Open the "Saved" folder.
7. Delete the "Config" folder. Note: This will reset any of your custom settings to their defaults.
8. Restart the game. The issues should be fixed.

[deep notch]

i tried that and it comes back

its not permanent, just periodically happens then i have to restart game to fix

[uneven mist]

Hmmm, then idk best thing I could do rn is for you to check pins here #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧

[left nacelle]

That's why i said juvy deinos. I was thinking hatchlings and fresh spawns

[limber hull]

thats FAR too specific for a diet option

very limiting. A freshspawn juvi deino already outweighs a beipi and will soon be big enough to lunge and kill one

so you're limited to basically hatchlings

beipi just isn't good at all for deino killing

[left nacelle]

But yet ptera has elite fish on its diet which it literally can't get by itself. To me beipi seems like one of those animals that is very strong for its size, due to those large claws. Letting it eat small deinos just seems perfect to me. And it's not like giving it juvy deinos as part of its diet would hurt anything either

[limber hull]

and those large claws seem perfect for hefty bleed, which deino has passive resist to

if it were baryonyx, I'd agree wholeheartedly

ptera's elite fish diet option is silly as well and should be changed, let's not add another silly diet to this list

[left nacelle]

It makes sense tho, if it get nutrients from small schooling fish, it would be odd if a larger fish gave it no nutrients

[limber hull]

it also is completely unrealistic for a ptera to catch one

[left nacelle]

But back to beipi, I don't see the harm in giving it deino on it's diet. At the very least it could attack juvy deinos in pairs or packs (flocks?)

[limber hull]

i personally disagree with putting things on diets just cause. They need to be viable at hunting that diet option, not just have it because they can. Beipi is more likely to be juvi deino food than the other way around

[rocky aspen]

@left nacelle
Not Juvi, hatchlings maybe. Or Deino eggs specifically can be eaten by them.

[edgy stag]

anone know why male stegos have the smaller rounder plates?it should be the females with the smaller plates and the males with the larger pointier plates for display

[burnt bone]

males irl have the rounded plates if im correct

[zealous violet]

I thought beepy was a herbie? Or is it gonna be a omni?

[icy lion]

Omni

[limber hull]

lives on a diet of mainly plants and fish, so omni

[proud coral]

Ye think Beip would like liver when gore comes

[limber hull]

honestly, i reckon beipi wouldn't be a fan of many dinosaur meats

i'd say it'd stick with fish, frogs or other small creatures

[proud coral]

[limber hull]

beipi is very small and more focused on fleeing than fighting (although it likely would put up a decent fight against Troodon or velo)

I'd personally not be a fan of it being given any dino meats, I'd rather it focus more on a piscivore diet

[zealous violet]

Ahh thanks. L3 Ive not really done a lot of looking into beepy

[valid zephyr]

@wanton ember irl deer would be faster than even adult utahs.

I’d much rather they required an ambush and tracking to catch rather than just being too slow to run away

[deep notch]

why is everyone in this godforsaken game so against simple rules to make it more fun for people??

[limber hull]

Because doing shit like “restricting herbi aggression” kinda doesn’t seem fun, especially if herbi aggression is already easily avoided

[deep notch]

so its fun to get ran down by stegos as a carni for no good reason?

herbi aggression isnt "easily avoided"

[limber hull]

You can quite literally outrun a stego as basically any carnivore

[deep notch]

ok what about all the other herbis?

[limber hull]

In the case of deinosuchus, swim and they will never catch up

[deep notch]

or herbis randomly attacking other herbis because they are grouped with some carnis?

not fun at all

[limber hull]

Don’t trust people. Keep your distance and try to assess their intentions before approaching. In nature, not every creature you meet will be friendly, and the same applies in the Isle

[deep notch]

and going to a community server doesnt fix it because the majority of those servers are way too restrictive on their rules

that doesnt help when the case is also getting ambushed by herbis

[limber hull]

This is part of the reason I’m so against rules. Every time I’ve seen a server implement “a few, basic rules”, it quickly spirals out of control and we end up with a server where you can’t 3 call unless specifically allowed to do so

Every time

[deep notch]

i doubt that would happen with the official servers though

[limber hull]

You let people complain enough into putting rules on your server, you can just as easily give in to people begging for more rules

(Also moderating the officials sounds HORRID for our official mods)

[deep notch]

obviously not when complaining doesnt even get basic rules implemented

[limber hull]

No way could they keep up with the huge amounts of servers and players

All in different regions and time zones

Basically would make it a 24/7 full time unpaid job

[deep notch]

its not too difficult to set up a staff group

[limber hull]

For over 10 different servers in around 5 different regions?

That sounds pretty tough

[deep notch]

they wont have these many servers up indefinitely, once the influx of players from the update drops some of the servers might get dropped

plus im not even talking about people that have to be online to deal with rulebreaking

nd people laughing reaction and clown reaction bring nothing to the convo, dont even bother to talk about it in discussion. def the people the rules they should add would cuck

[lapis swallow]

@vivid needle can you send me a screenshot of v2, I dont know the map

[vivid needle]

Ma man, I made a mistake, it's V3 XD

thx

Legacy map that is not Thenyaw

[limber hull]

No V3 return pls

[lapis swallow]

wouldnt work, how many changes would have to be to make the map deino friendly enough

[vivid needle]

I don't wanna assume too much, but have seen devs drawing the map, it does seem to take really long to make few rivers (especially if you already have the model in Spiro for river). After that, i'm not the specialist here, it's just a suggestion

[valid zephyr]

wait people get ran down by stegos?

sounds like a skill issue to me.

literally the slowest land animal in the game right now

[deep notch]

yes i was eating and a stego came out of nowhere and ran me down as a dieno

not a "skill issue" when they are literally faster than you :)

[valid zephyr]

irl herbis will murder carnivores and other herbivores for shits and giggles.

they're not passive munching machines

[vivid needle]

what ? XD which ones ?

[valid zephyr]

like all of them.

[lapis swallow]

its a very hilly map, many for deinos unaccesable lakes, which would mean that deinos would become worthless because all the player would go somewhere else to drink. Hell, it was even a bad map for legacy. Everybody was at the few hotspots and you couldnt find players because the damn thing is 225 square kilometers big. Just a bad map for that small amount of players

[vivid needle]

i don't see animals risking their life for nothing :/

[valid zephyr]

irl herbis will go and stamp on crocodiles unprovoked if they're not near water.

[lapis swallow]

I think a hippo can beat up a gazelle without danger

[vivid needle]

That's one

[valid zephyr]

will have to check with the moderators if i can post the wildlife footage here.

as it does involve animals attacking each other

[deep notch]

im talking about herbivore dinosaurs, not current live herbivores. lmfao.

[valid zephyr]

they will have similar behaviour in those respects

[lapis swallow]

rhinos yeet warthogs in the air cause it was pissed

[deep notch]

is there any evidence or articles about this?

[vivid needle]

It sure would need some attention for deino, but thing is people like it. It wasn't just forest and grassland spam. There were more locations you could recognise, etc. It was still a nice map

[valid zephyr]

vid of a horse going and attacking a crocodile which was just walking along

[lapis swallow]

not that good it needs to come back

[vivid needle]

Yeh rhino as well, but others i mean, herbivores mostly avoid unecessary fights, even carnivores

[deep notch]

i can see herbis attacking other herbis for territory for a example, but not just randomly attacking herbivores nearby

they want to survive, herbis and carnis arent gonna go along and pick fights with everything they see because it could result in life threatening wounds

[vivid needle]

Yeh maybe, still it has been brought up several times in the channel, i respect your opinion

[valid zephyr]

search rhino warthog in the gifs.

i don't want to post it as not sure if it's allowed.

[lapis swallow]

first time I saw it in months

[vivid needle]

Yeh, territory is a point of survival

[deep notch]

yes, im saying that with territory as a exception

[valid zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/zebra-cheetah-chase-animals-run-gif-5786123

[deep notch]

and again... herbivore dinosaurs is what im talking about

[valid zephyr]

why would herbivore dinosaurs be all peaceful and not aggressive when modern herbivores are aggro af.

[vivid needle]

They are not, you took a gif out of context XD

[valid zephyr]

the animals which remove potential threats and competition are the ones which do better and pass on their genes.

[vivid needle]

some are maybe

[deep notch]

wheres the proof they were super aggro all the time? unless they are protecting young, or territory or food / water source i doubt they would risk life threatening wounds

[lapis swallow]

Rules will make the unenjoyable for many tbh

at least officials

[deep notch]

people that kos every single thing in the game dont deserve to enjoy it

[lapis swallow]

Yet they enjoy the game

[deep notch]

all they do is run around and ruin the game for every single person

[valid zephyr]

there are plenty of unofficials with rules

[deep notch]

unofficial with a overloaded set of rules

[vivid needle]

Kos is going to be risky as far as i understand devs.

[lapis swallow]

This

[vivid needle]

FIghting in general i mean

[deep notch]

im not playing on a server where the fight stops after a body drops and you gotta 3 call before you make a single move

[valid zephyr]

stegos tail should definitely be doing way less damage when it's hanging in the water.

[lapis swallow]

No, I am on a unoffi that has good rules

[vivid needle]

oh yeah

[valid zephyr]

water resistance should be slowing that tail a ton

[vivid needle]

of breaking it :3

or*

[deep notch]

simple rules like no spawn killing, no kosing, carni mixpacking maybee, herbi carni mixpacking isnt gonna make the game that much enjoyable

[vivid needle]

The speed and the strength of that swing is huge, water become concrete really quick with those

[valid zephyr]

would definitely like to see stegos tail do half damage to swimming targets.

[vivid needle]

it's a tail, made of flesh and bones

[lapis swallow]

When do you call KoSing KoSing?

nah, a bite on the surface isnt slowed down

[deep notch]

like, a example would be my friend recently got killed by a adult deino as a baby deino whilst he sitting next to a adult stego body and 4 baby stegos

that would qualify as kosing imo

[valid zephyr]

deino is literally on deinos diets and gives nutrients

[deep notch]

so are stegos???

im giving that as a loose example

[lapis swallow]

he needed a different nutrient

[valid zephyr]

i mean yeah the diet system sucks. having to ignore piles of meat because they're the 'wrong' type

[lapis swallow]

then it makes sense (at lest for all the non semi-aquatics)

[deep notch]

a better example of kosing i guess would be the video linked to my suggestion

even though it was only a attempt

chilling and eating, and the 4 stego babies attempted to run us down

[valid zephyr]

I defend peoples right to kill for sport in game.

While also thinking they're assholes for doing so.

[deep notch]

cringe

[lapis swallow]

that is shitty but you could have just moved from the best crossing spot in the area until they were gone

there wanted to cross, werent they?

[deep notch]

lmfao

this fucking games playerbase

[lapis swallow]

did they cross?

[limber hull]

is that the video where you're in a call with a utah as a deino lmao

[lapis swallow]

true, that dude is mixpacking too lol while complaining about shitty players

[deep notch]

yes but we arent attempting to kill things working together

[limber hull]

also you can literally just vibe in the water there and the stegos couldnt do nothing

[lapis swallow]

did you notice how he didnt include mixpacking in his rule suggestions even tho its the most basic rule of all

[limber hull]

seems to me like you're specifically mad about herbi players

[deep notch]

?

i literally main herbi, this is my first time playing carni

but aight

[lapis swallow]

in your suggestion and that is what counts for the people seeing it

[deep notch]

yeah but i aint trying to make a paragraph suggestion

[lapis swallow]

, no carnipacking

[deep notch]

in my video we were activly moving away from the stegos aswell and they still charged us

[lapis swallow]

that would have been it

[limber hull]

personally, i dont find KOS or mixpacking fun at all, but I'd still prefer having others do it to having to thinking about a list of stupid arbitrary rules that restrict what people can and can't do.

[deep notch]

aight ill edit it then since it matters that much to you

[limber hull]

i just dislike rules

[valid zephyr]

will post footage of a herbivorous dinosaur being aggro af:

https://tenor.com/view/cassowary-ostrich-gif-16223938

[limber hull]

imho, the game should be self-moderating, rules only complicate and weaken the experience

[limber hull]

LMAO TRUE

Literally a herbi dinosaur

[deep notch]

if the internet wasnt filled with assholes that would work

[valid zephyr]

the most aggro dinosaur of all is a herbivore.

his name is kevin

[limber hull]

or if the game was designed more around encouraging a specific style of play, that would also work

[valid zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/urban-rescue-ranch-rescue-ranch-kevin-ostrich-gif-22560229

[limber hull]

people's monkey brains react well when they get a big shiny reward for doing things and they will continue doing it for that reward

[safe galleon]

Dear god

[limber hull]

people's monkey brains react poorly when they just wanted to play the game and ended up getting banned for breaking rule 305 on herbivore aggression

legacy herbi always sucked, because not only were herbis almost always weaker than carnis, but herbi was also given a ton of shitass rules that made it incapable of having any fun without being banned

"can't fight that ceratosaurus, sorry, it hasn't 3 called to consent to you kicking its ass. Also if it 4 calls the fight is over and you MUST stop attacking"

[dire ridge]

Stego is in the same nutrient categorie as the elite fish, deino is not. So trust me, i will eat those smaller deino whenever i can. And no, im not ashame of that

[deep notch]

yeah i aint about that lifestyle

not ruining someone elses game experience

ill happily eat a deino that is rougly the same size as me and have a fair fight

but im not killing basically fresh spawn juvies

[dire ridge]

I just don't want to stay at 1 nutrient all of my deino life

And everyone should do the same

[limber hull]

eating smaller deino is fine. It's usually faster and sports far more endurance than you on land, so any clever little deino will be gone out of there within seconds

[deep notch]

been forced to afk grow and feed on nothing but fish in a corner of the map because everything that sees me trys to kos me

[dire ridge]

Exactly

[limber hull]

also fresh spawns aren't losing much in terms of growth

[safe galleon]

I am

[deep notch]

keyword

"basically"

[dire ridge]

There is a ton of "safer space" for little deino, like shallow water in the swamp

[lapis swallow]

"and this is called, my viewers, natural selection" insert narrator voice here

[deep notch]

and its not losing growth thats even the issue, its the rate at which it happens

[limber hull]

IDK, little deinos can grow and prosper if they know where and how to do it

There's tons of tricks to avoid the cannibals

[lapis swallow]

just dont play the isle is the best one, gotta say

[lapis swallow]

Canni croc

[safe galleon]

Clearly jus a mother croc carrying her young

[dire ridge]

They just have to run on land and or staying near shallow water with some near bushes. I don't see the prob. They have better vision, better mobility and a superior stam management

[limber hull]

You can stay still or run on land. Staying still basically makes you undetectable, I like to hide on the bottom of the river before the big bad arrives and watch him pass over, although if worst comes to worst, I'll dash towards the land and make a mad sprint for it. Cannibal counterplay has a surprising amount of depth as a little guy. I find fighting cannibals as an adult WAY more tiresome tbh

Adult deino v adult deino is just... ugh

[dire ridge]

If a Deino smaller than me run and is a little too far, i stop the chase. Its too much energy

[valid zephyr]

if i'm over 50% food and have that nutrient i'll ignore other deinos.

otherwise they're snacks.

[dire ridge]

Yeah thats trash tho

[limber hull]

I honestly have warmed up to the cannibal stuff. I like avoiding scarier deinos as a little meek deino

I wonder how cerato will handle the cannibal life

[dire ridge]

Like carno i think, the commu will ashame cannibal players and stay in megapack lmao

[valid zephyr]

i definitely don't think all carnivores should have their own species on their diet list

but some definitely should have

[tight oxide]

Wouldnt gore change that either way?

[valid zephyr]

once more stuff is in, i'd like to see carno removed from carnos diet.

[valid zephyr]

no clue what gore is going to do.

[tight oxide]

Well devs did say gore will impact carnivore diets

And gore will include bones and guts and stuff... so i think we can make a solid idea

[valid zephyr]

still hoping we can turn gore down

[vivid needle]

@somber mesa yeh auto run, especially when danger comes and u don't wanna stop to write the nature of the danger (I use 4 call a lot, but it doesn't work as efficiently as writing the nature of the danger unfortunately)

[somber mesa]

Right? its such a small change, but gets noticable fast if its missing (at least for me). It would fit the game perfectly

[vivid needle]

yeh XD

[somber mesa]

i dont like stopping the whole march column just to write "Left or right?"

[vivid needle]

Yeh or "carno !" and by the time you press enter, it is already almost on you XD

[somber mesa]

or just a recent example, writing hide to your young stegos while your on the defence from a pack

[vivid needle]

kek ! i don't play stego, but litteraly it's the same for everyone

[somber mesa]

yeah. i would just like to not hold w for the entirety of my time crossing the plains XD

[vivid needle]

ahah that's convinient too ^^

[somber mesa]

if you travel a lot (i do) your fingers starts to hurt. its just the nature of the game, that auto run would solve

[vivid needle]

Yeh that's for sure, it's just probably more a thing for stegos that are slow and way less subject to ambush (imo), so they might go for straight lines longer that other ppl
But i do support that idea no matter the context. I don't think there is a way that this feature would turn into a cheating thing, so why not

[somber mesa]

Stego is the best example, yes, but all dinos have to travel for a long way after a while, or just use it on short occasions to not stop while you type. Maybe an argument could be made, that it somehow lessens involvement, cause it "does it by itself", but i would say it also relaxes the game(and your muscles) a bit, and promotes communication.

[vivid needle]

Yup, i agree on all here ^^' especially if the maps is meant to get bigger

[somber mesa]

Thanks 😄 suprised no one mentioned it (as it seems) before, i have been moaning about it to my friends for a while

[vivid needle]

^^ yeh but i don't feel like it's changing anytime soon dw about it

[proven river]

If official rules were implemented I would cry

[low tendon]

What is the likelihood of eggs being added to the ptera diet?

[limber hull]

@brazen quiver semi-aquatic

have you seen concept art?

[uneven mist]

Semi-aquatic indeed

Sucho would probably be more terrestrial than bary but we wil wait and see

[limber hull]

sucho would just like shallows imho

[uneven mist]

Yeah it would most likely be a wadder

[brazen quiver]

Ah ok

[uneven mist]

The diver, the wadder and the hippo. That’s how I mostly see our spinosaurids

[drifting steeple]

You arent forced at all, in fact I've never grown a single dinosaur afk. I hate to break it to you, but this isnt minecraft and this isnt roblox. This is a dinosaur survival game. N dinosaurs did not have a very great survival rate. Small dinosaurs SHOULD and WOULD be eaten or killed by larger dinosaurs. Even herbies have a reason, because that baby could grow up and be a big threat. So what do you want people to do? Wait for you to grow to the point where you can kill them and then just die because you had the better dino of the two and they let you catch up to them? What about creatures who can only reliably fight hatchlings/juvies? Now they are obsolete. If you want a server with rules, go to an unofficial, dont ruin the game for people who dont wanna play it on easy mode

[limber hull]

very well said

[burnt bone]

@fallen path That’s how bucking works. It drains both the utah and the bucking dino’s stam. It drains everything’s stam about the same, so a stego loses about as much stam as a pachy and the utah loses the same amount no matter what. Also, that pounce you did on the pachy likely drained its blood to about half, even with the buck. So nerfing buck would literally make pounce a 1-shot to pachies.

[fallen path]

Yeah cool and all but draining a utahs stam in 1 sec is not okay

[lapis swallow]

Its supposed to counter the pounce

[fallen path]

True, but not like that

[lapis swallow]

which it does with rapidly draining the uthas stam so it needs to jump off asap

[burnt bone]

Then hop off sooner. Pounce isn’t latching on for like 10 seconds. It’s a quick and risky attack with a big payoff.

[lapis swallow]

how would you like it?

[fallen path]

Well they dont get the chance to pounce at all now

[lapis swallow]

huh?

[fallen path]

if u actually believe that a 1 sec pounce pays off then u must be new

[burnt bone]

You still do, just get used to the timing and hop off sooner.

[burnt bone]

I know it does because last time I got pounced as a pachy, I lost half my bleed.

[lapis swallow]

Its not a 1 second pounce, more like a 3 second pounce

[fallen path]

Ur not supposed to run when bleeding, thats why u lost half

[lapis swallow]

The pounce is already very strong even with buck

[fallen path]

stop pinging me

[lapis swallow]

ok

[burnt bone]

I will admit, I was running at the time. However, I was also being chased by 3 utahs, so I had to. Still though, pounce is very strong, if I wasn’t running I would have lost 1/3 of my bleed.

Pachies also are reliant or sprinting to hit a ram, and are forced to turn constantly to use alt attacks. So a single pounce forces a pachy to be very cautious about their bleed.

[proven geyser]

@tidal rose ur idea is amazing.

[tidal rose]

thanks

[proven geyser]

It would make survival so much better and give you more tasks to do to keep ur dinosaur alive and its also enjoyable

[queen swift]

would it be too much to ask to allow hypsi to place nests on rocks?

[bleak birch]

I second this. After having 2 nests torn up in a row by raptors, I’d like to have my nest somewhere higher

[jagged jewel]

@left nacelle baby deino is heavier than beipi

[burnt bone]

Better yet, once we get climbing, tree nests.

[deep notch]

setting basic rules doesnt make the game "easy mode" it makes it more enjoyable bc there arent gonna be dickheads walking around killing everything that they lay eyes on.

[cyan flame]

But what constitutes "basic rules"? Wouldn't there be an issue with what should or should not be part of the rules, depending on who you ask?

[deep notch]

yeah ofc, but your gonna get that every server you go. the majority of the unofficial servers have a bunch of overloaded rules though

im not talking rules like when a body drops the fight has to stop or you gotta 3 call this and that

stuff like no herbi / carni mixpacking, spawnkilling, maybe slight restrictions on group killing ive noticed that a bit aswell

[cyan flame]

True, mixing is an issue, but hopefully that'll be somewhat solved with ingame mechanics, since it can break balance. Same with spawnkilling, it should be handled with how spawning works, rather than with rules preferably.

[deep notch]

if they plan to balance it with in-game mechanics whats the harm in adding a rule until its implemented

[somber mesa]

hard thing with rules is, they must be enforced, wich requies quite some manpower to do

[deep notch]

yeah the only thing i can see helping with that at all is not have people consistently moderating the servers, just deal with discord reports

[drifting steeple]

They have unofficial servers for a reason.plenty of servers have those rules for players who want an easier time at growing. Adding rules, especially the examples that you gave, is just not a good idea. Your essentially changing major core parts of gameplay

Herbivores cant even attack shit unless provoked? That's a dumb rule in itself and I can tell you rn that in unofficial servers it is abused by carnivore players heavily @deep notch

And if you spawn and get attacked, are you really losing any progress? Hide or run and juke, and if they get you anyway so what? That's the game, just cuz you dont like it dont mean that it's not fair, spawn somewhere else n try again

[deep notch]

spawn killing includes when you are fresh spawn and spawning in / loading in on a full adukt

the only people the rules wouldnt help are the mass kosers

[lapis swallow]

@autumn seal we wont get any rules

[deep notch]

unfortunately thats lookin like the case

[drifting steeple]

Lmfao no not at all bruh. With your idea, pteros can no longer hunt hatchlings/juvies, carnivores can abuse the herbivore overaggro rule (and it happens often). Herbivore gameplay becomes more dull, and on top of that, it's a dinosaur game! Dinosaurs actually DID KOS believe it or not...

[autumn seal]

so like teaming up for ages and then backs tabbing and eating youre corpse will always be allowed?

[deep notch]

yeah youre just not understanding the rules im suggesting apparently.

[drifting steeple]

I understand them, I've played servers with them, I just think they have no place in official with players who dont want an easy grow simulator, but rather a dino survival game

[autumn seal]

well...crap

[deep notch]

nah you dont

your paragraphs make that pretty obvious

[drifting steeple]

Bruh why do you want official servers to have rules when theres literally unofficial servers with rules

Nun of it makes sense

[deep notch]

bc the unofficial servers are overloaded with rules

there just need to be a few simple ones to make gameplay better

like not killing someone whilst they are loading in, give them the chance to move.

which doesnt limit pteradons from hunting hatchlings and juvies

[drifting steeple]

A spawn protection wouldnt be a rule... that's a mechanic

[deep notch]

which is aka the spawnkilling rule you are misinterpreting

[somber mesa]

@deep notch its not rules what you seek then, incentive mechanics are miles above some silly rules no one will read or enforce

[drifting steeple]

^

[deep notch]

rules whilst those mechanics arent implemented would make the game much better

[autumn seal]

wait so does evrima have rules servers or no?

[drifting steeple]

Yes they do

Not in official tho, which is the way its gonna stay tbh, thankfully

Everyone in rules servers abuses the rules and whines constantly, it really ruins the game for me

[autumn seal]

well so is getting killed by youre own herd

[drifting steeple]

So? Shit happens bro, why limit the way people can play the game that just makes no sense, especially in a game like this that gives you so much freedom to do whatever

[deep notch]

bc i want to have a good gaming experience and not have it ruined by assholes

why is that so much to ask? if people cant self discipline themselves there needs to be some form of rules

or game mechanics that debuff you for killing your own herd and hanging out with carnis as a herbi and shit

[drifting steeple]

Than play unofficial with moderators that babysit you guys, but dont FORCE me and others to have to follow those silly rules

[deep notch]

ahh there it is

youre just mad bc these rules would limit your gameplay bc your a koser

yikesss

[drifting steeple]

If I'm a carnivore than yes I KOS it's a dinosaur game genius

[deep notch]

yikes

[autumn seal]

like the other day i got killed by a adult stego while being a 50% stego like why, there is no punishment that floows?

[candid mulch]

….

[drifting steeple]

Bruh these soft ass gamers now lmfaooo, wouldnt last a day in a cod lobby "A hungry dinosaur killed me! What an asshole"

[deep notch]

ive had my fair share of cod lobbies but aight

[somber mesa]

i got domed by a pachy as a birb some time ago, learned not to trust headbutt boys

[deep notch]

lmfao

[autumn seal]

im not talking about getting killed im talking about how i am getting killed in the most fucked up ways imagineable

[deep notch]

^

[candid mulch]

Please don’t tell me just “surviving” is fun enough to just do in Evirma at this point of development.Literally killing things is a big part why it’s fun

[drifting steeple]

They like killing stuff, they just dont like dying, it's unfair when they get killed

Lmfao

[candid mulch]

Yeah it seems like it

[deep notch]

yes killing things and dying is a part of the game

i get that, but getting randomly killed by your own herd bc they decided they dont like you or for some other reason shouldnt be a thing

[autumn seal]

getting killed by herbivores for absolutly no reason 2?

[candid mulch]

Why?

[somber mesa]

somehow limiting pack size (sniffing them out is a compromise right now) would be great tho. Getting bomb rushed by 6 carnos is not fun

[autumn seal]

because its hella toxic

[deep notch]

^

why do you want that in a game is a better question

[uneven mist]

“No reasion” like irl herbivores don’t kill other herbivores and carnivores for competition reasons

[autumn seal]

its like friendly fire is always on in cod and you will never get banned for it

[drifting steeple]

Adds more diversity and possibility for gameplay experiences, I've been betrayed by my group and then I escaped and came back with another and fought them off, it was a great experience and I'm glad no rules got in the way of that

[autumn seal]

only this is worse because you spend time and effort to grown an animal and it just dies to its own species

[candid mulch]

Limits the players freedom.Like I’m gonna be completely honest, your here doesn’t just kill you because they feel like it.It’s either because you’re being annoying or another reason

[drifting steeple]

Exactlyyy

[dark osprey]

This is comedy gold, got sandwiched between 2 stegos as a fg stego myself and got clapped, thought it was pretty funny myself, lesson of the day trust no one XD

[deep notch]

done arguing with kosers that are the reason these rules should be implemented and are the reason the games ruined for so many

[uneven mist]

Don’t trust anyone

[candid mulch]

Go cry on another game ig

[somber mesa]

you trust too easy, you get taken advantage of. easy maths

[drifting steeple]

If your so mad about dying, just join a unofficial with rules! I dont get why you crying when you have the option! Lmfaoooo

[deep notch]

its not even that i trust so easily, i get ran down randomly by other herbus

you guys are fucking stupid holy shit

[autumn seal]

i have no unofficial options in evrima

[drifting steeple]

On the right side in filters change the official to unofficial with a drop down menu then hit refresh

[candid mulch]

But you literally didn’t say that.You just gave us an example of your herd and own species killing you dumbass

[autumn seal]

how about being a 30% ptera just drinking and a dryo just shows up and decided to kick youre ass for no reason?

[drifting steeple]

I feel like it's just a skill issue at this point tbh

[deep notch]

one example doesnt equate to every single experience ive had are you dense?

i feel like its just a skill issue at this point tbh 🤓

yikes

[candid mulch]

Too bad, Dryo has nothing else to do and besides Ptera is one of the most elusive so just bad luck

[drifting steeple]

^

[somber mesa]

yeah, with ptera your barely playing the same game. if something can clap ya, gj for them

[autumn seal]

no not bad luck, fucking bullshit i get killed for no reason

[candid mulch]

So don’t call us dumb when all the examples you have us is you being too trusting

[drifting steeple]

If I give you an unofficial with the rules that you said and no more, will you stop bitching?

[autumn seal]

hebis get nothing out of killing for no reason

[uneven mist]

“No reasion” like herbivores irl don’t go out of their way to kill other herbies and carnis for competition reason

[dark osprey]

Rofl ptera getting clapped by dryo, I'm dead

[somber mesa]

revenge

[spare hearth]

Not true, its very fun

[autumn seal]

if it was litterlay and carnivore i woudnt be mad

[autumn seal]

for what?

[deep notch]

ill call you dumb when youre acting fucking dumb

[somber mesa]

his fallen brethren

[deep notch]

theres a literal example in my suggestion where im not being too trusting either

[drifting steeple]

The irony

[uneven mist]

[spare hearth]

[deep notch]

you guys are the assholes that play this game and kos. the reasons these need to be rules. ofc you guys are against it

lmfao

[candid mulch]

Very ironic, I also think you’re a big cry baby but I don’t have the emotional immaturity to bring it up multiple times

[dark osprey]

Betray your own kind to leave a body so the carnivores don't follow the rest of you

[somber mesa]

im a non agro herbie main. im still against it, now what? XD

[deep notch]

i AlsO ThInK yOURe a BiG cRyBaBY

jesus christ shut the fuck up already

[candid mulch]

Holy you’re mad lmao

[drifting steeple]

ITS A DINOSAUR GAME! THIS ISNT NYAN CAT SIMULATOR! Ffs go play roblox or sum shit. Minecraft on peaceful mode seems more your style

[deep notch]

yeah bc yall are fucking attacking me over nothing

ofc im gonna fucking curse you out and act mad when yall are being assholes

[uneven mist]

This is entertaining

[somber mesa]

whos attacking you? we just say youre wrong

[drifting steeple]

You got hostile first lmfaoo

[deep notch]

all bc i suggested rules that would restrict your shitty gamestyle

[candid mulch]

This is what one day in Evirma does to you💀💀.Can’t hold your composure because of a dinosaur game

[deep notch]

yikes

[somber mesa]

yikes

[candid mulch]

Yikes

[autumn seal]

you guys are toxic as hell

[spare hearth]

Rules in official servers r j a terrible idea, we want the freedom to do whatever we want it’s a gotdayum video game. Getting killed for no reason is just a part of the experience, be more proactive in watching out for attackers fam. Besides you can’t live forever and you’re gonna die in unexpected ways

[drifting steeple]

Can you imagine a dinosaur sitting there getting attacking and crying "STOP YOU SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO DO THIS" lmfaooo, easiest fuckin meal

[spare hearth]

Fo reallllll

[uneven mist]

^ best way to say it

[candid mulch]

Sure, seems like you’re just repeating what the other guy is repeating at this point tho

[autumn seal]

so is that a problem?

i am just standing with him

[dark osprey]

Why can't they just laugh it off. It's a survival game not a live forever game

[drifting steeple]

Well said haha

[autumn seal]

and you guys are basicaly assaulting him rn

[somber mesa]

i wouldnt call it toxicity. The clear majority dont want rules. If someone cant respect that and start arguing, then the opposition will argue back. which is, a lot of us it seems XD

[candid mulch]

Not gonna lie I was this mad the first time something like this happened to me.Just had to adapt

[drifting steeple]

Omg, he sat there talking shit calling people dumb and then plays the victim, and your gonna say we assaulted them 🤣🤣🤣

[candid mulch]

^

[drifting steeple]

Just cause nobody liked the rules idea

[deep notch]

"go cry on another game ig" "you wouldnt last in a cod lobby" "bruh these soft ass gamers" but i was the one that got toxic and hostile first

[somber mesa]

But credits where credits due, freedom inherently brings toxicity. but we rather have that, than restrict the free gamestyle there is now

[dark osprey]

It's a no win situation here, just like the game itself

[drifting steeple]

Read your messages before smart one haha, just go play an unofficial and stop trying to change the whole game when you literally have options and you just refuse them

[autumn seal]

i was just asking if rules would ever come to evrima and you guys are defending it like its the queen or something and directly insulting people who arent disagree

[candid mulch]

Yup, you’re literally not listening to a word we have to say so why tf would I continue to argue with an ignorant person?

[autumn seal]

like i said you are toxic as hell

[drifting steeple]

Bruh this is the most facepalmable moment rn, these 2 are just...

[autumn seal]

just what?

[deep notch]

i called you kosers and called you mad? soundin like youre the soft one

[deep notch]

ironic

[drifting steeple]

Who's mad? Lmfao I'm really not mad over a video game jitt

[candid mulch]

What’s ironic?Youre just spewing words lmao

[dark osprey]

The people defending no rules are defending the right to play with as much freedom as possible whether they are playing that way themselves, it's a risk they take to enjoy the freedom of choice

[drifting steeple]

^

[candid mulch]

Yup

[deep notch]

yikes

[candid mulch]

Yikes

[somber mesa]

exactly

[spare hearth]

Yikes

[drifting steeple]

Yikes

[tepid gate]

Idk, I half-agree with nyan - kos isn't a problem as far as I'm concerned but mixpacking/mixherding and other garbage is

[deep notch]

i dipped outta this convo long ago and didnt bother arguing with reason after yall started verbally harassing me bc youre mad i called you kosers

[tepid gate]

hopefully they can fix that with some in game mechanics

[candid mulch]

Cool dude

[drifting steeple]

"Verbally harrasing" when you left we didnt @ you or nothing til you came back

[somber mesa]

mix and megapacking is a problem, no one argues against it. but it should be solved by game mechanics and incentives, not by some written rules

[deep notch]

listen just own up to it

not that hard

[tepid gate]

I am a KoSer - I kill stuff pretty much on sight whenever I see anything that might be killable(and very often attack even if it is not killable by me) I still kind of/sort of agree

I would much prefer if we could get some in game mechanics that would sort it out

[candid mulch]

Why do you care so much if you dipped out of arguing with us.Just move on

[tepid gate]

but I wouldn't be opposed to some soft-rules

[spare hearth]

KoS gang

[deep notch]

bc its funny

[somber mesa]

i killed my first ever raptor today as a stego XD do i qualify as a koser?

[drifting steeple]

Yep, i am a proud KoSer and I do it whether they my nutrient or not, sometimes I do it when I'm full and not even hungry, proud of it

[autumn seal]

youre guys realy are proud that you kill on sight?

[deep notch]

yikes

[dark osprey]

Kos is sort of future proofing your own survival in my opinion, as a Utah in not letting that carno grow up and be a threat for example

[candid mulch]

Yeah definitely, but if we start “harassing” you again you’ll go crying out this chat right?

[deep notch]

so your proud you ruin other peoples experience in the game like a asshole?

[tepid gate]

neither proud nor ashamed I just do it because I love hunting and killing things

[candid mulch]

Can you tell me why it’s bad?

[tepid gate]

When i play this game I expect everyone and everything to try to kill me

[spare hearth]

Cuz ppl get upset and lord forbid we have that happen

[autumn seal]

😑 either way we are both ruining the game for eachother

[deep notch]

bc. you. ruin. the. game. for. others. you guys are so dense how many times has that been said

why is it THAT hard for you to not be a asshole?

[drifting steeple]

Killing people in dinosaur survival = ruing peoples experience. Those dinosaurs were assholes before they went extinct right man? ruining all those other innocent dinosaurs experience by killin them

[tepid gate]

no, not really, my game doesn't get ruined if another player goes out of their way to kill me

[dark osprey]

It's only ruining it if you don't see it for what it is

[deep notch]

dense

[tepid gate]

tbh I'd consider it pretty lame if people weren't trying to kill me

[deep notch]

af

[candid mulch]

Not really, when I kill a Juvi stego I’m saving at least two deinos from getting clapped by Stego when it becomes adult

[somber mesa]

getting killed is the best part of the game. gets my adrenaline pumping

[tepid gate]

it makes the game far more boring if people just ignore each other and chill, I don't want to play a birdbath simulator

[drifting steeple]

If your playing a game that allows pvp, and your crying over pvp, than that's a personal issue, not an issue wit the game

[tepid gate]

I would argue however that Deino should perhaps do slightly better vs Stego

[deep notch]

the fact that you literally cannot see what is wrong with this is mind baffling

[dark osprey]

@candid mulch haha yea that's the ecosystem coming into play

[autumn seal]

not for you nah, but i dont think i am talking here for just 2 people. kos, carnivore mix packing, agro hebis are all destroying the gamiing expereince

[burnt bone]

I understand it sucks when you’re chilling with some people for like 30 mins, then they randomly kill you. It has happened to me only a few times over my 900+ hours though. I would much rather deal with that annoyance, than have admins deal with the annoyance of people reporting everyone who kills them. Or being dragged out by an admin because I apparently killed an innocent child while fighting something else, and then get banned.

[tepid gate]

a situation where a bunch of Stegos just swims across a river to pick up your body is a bit... ugh

[deep notch]

if it was something like ark that would be a different story

[tepid gate]

I don't have a problem with kos and agro herbis, mixpacking is bad

[candid mulch]

That’s a minority statement.Most of the community doesn’t have the problem y’all have so it’s more just like it ruins the game for you

[tepid gate]

I also think that herbivore mixpacking is bad

[deep notch]

nah

[tepid gate]

each playable should be designed around being viable on its own without herding/packing up with other species

[somber mesa]

No one argues for mix or megapacking here XD

[tepid gate]

if you need other species to be viable - your dino is just bad

[drifting steeple]

How do you not understand that dinosaurs kill, eat, drink, sleep and repeat, that's all there is to do and you dont want them to be able to kill freely which is the most entertaining part of the gameplay

[tepid gate]

if it's good on its own and gets to mix on top of that - it's broken

you get to cover up for any potential weaknesses of other animals you're grouping up with

[deep notch]

yikes yikes

[uneven mist]

^

[deep notch]

youre not a fucking dinosaur

you are a person, have a ounce of fucking passion for the other player who you are ruining their experience

[somber mesa]

Thats the whole point of the game. you are one XD

[spare hearth]

💀 💀 💀

[candid mulch]

Wtf is that supposed to mean💀💀???Dinos don’t KOS for fun

[drifting steeple]

I'm playing a dinosaur game! Imma play like a dinosaur 🤣🤣🤣🤣 you go ahead and play a dinosaur while acting like a human

[burnt bone]

For me it depends on the species. Combat oriented Dinos should never group with other combat dinos. Like teno and pachy should never group. But stuff like a hypsi or dryo chillin with a stego is fine in my book though.

[autumn seal]

no no no no, this is where you are in mistake here. dinos carnivore or not kos just for fun, not for food. just to destroy someones day

[deep notch]

read the entire sentence holy shit

room temp iq

[humble sable]

If you are a person, have an ounce of common sense and know that you will be attacked in PVP games

[drifting steeple]

Killing for fun is fine too

[tepid gate]

ehhh that's fair, some combinations are alright the speed and power difference between these two is so large that I'd find it acceptable

[uneven mist]

Yeah or just herbivores tolerating eatchoter then mind their own business afterwards

[deep notch]

no fucking shit sherlock

[tepid gate]

not an issue

[candid mulch]

No I’m good, it’s a goddamn game dude.I play for MY enjoyment

[deep notch]

when in my rule did i ever say you just flat out cant kill people

[humble sable]

Thanks, watson

[tepid gate]

I don't have a problem even when I get killed by other Utahs when i play Utah

or by other Tenontos when I play Tenonto

[deep notch]

its a dog eat dog world but people shouldnt be assholes and be kosing randomly for no good reason

[tepid gate]

literally not an issue - I remember stress test to update 4 when mountain ash was in a dire shortage

Tenontos would murder each other on sight

[somber mesa]

why? no rules against it

[tepid gate]

and that was some really good stuff

[drifting steeple]

They arent killing you in real life, damn! Calm the fuck down haha, it's a game. I feel like you take it too personally

[candid mulch]

The reason is because it’s fun.Multiple people have said that to you

[deep notch]

there should be thats the whole point

[uneven mist]

Hope something like that returns

[tepid gate]

If I get seen by another player - I expect them to kill me

[drifting steeple]

Exactly

[tepid gate]

I messed up and the game should be punishing me for that

[humble sable]

Then join a custom server, they have rules against KOSing and mixpacking

[deep notch]

nah, i play the game to have fun and getting kosed isnt fun. i aint "calming down"

actual lowlife scum kosers are

[drifting steeple]

So what do you want a dinosaur to do when it sees you?

[humble sable]

Official servers are lawless lands, which someone people like and some don't

[deep notch]

im done with you people

[candid mulch]

This anger will pass tmr

[tepid gate]

idk play on a server without other players then or something

[dark osprey]

Accept that dying no matter the cause is part of the fun

[tepid gate]

The AI might still kill you tbh but well

[uneven mist]

Herbivores having competition against each other and against their own species would be pretty cool

[burnt bone]

Where do you define the line of a “good reason”? Do you have to be in mortal danger? Do they have to be at least an annoyance? Or can I just say “they got too close”?

[tepid gate]

It's just such a baffling argument, the game is supposed to get aggressive carnivore AI at some point - hell it was already in the game at one point and it didn't care one tiniest bit whether you had a body or not - it would go after you and literally murder you in cold blood

[deep notch]

im not suggesting implementing a body down rule or anything like the ridiculous 3 call rules

[candid mulch]

What do you want?

[drifting steeple]

I'm glad, cuz thatd be even more ridiculous

[deep notch]

thats too much, and why unofficial servers aint good they have a over abundant amount of rules

[burnt bone]

Because that’s my main issue: where is the line between “healthy gameplay” and “toxic gameplay” being drawn? If you push it too far, you’re impacting the game too much. If you don’t push it enough, then the rules accomplish nothing but be annoying. I’m not even sure if there is a fine line with rules, to me it’s too far either way.

[drifting steeple]

I mean the idea of rules for a wild animal simulator, especially them being dinosaurs, is just kinda contradictory in itself

[burnt bone]

this isnt a "dino sim" its a horror game missing most the true horror aspects currently.

[drifting steeple]

Yeh, rn it's more like dino survival but hopefully gore changes that

[somber mesa]

plenty of horror if you play it right XD

[candid mulch]

Yeah legacy was honestly better in a horror aspect in survival

[spare hearth]

No rules in officials is the way to go, people don’t want their freedom in game to be limited. If you can’t deal with dying because you think that the other player shouldn’t have killed you, I honestly don’t know what to say. You can’t ban someone for “being an asshole”, you’re controlling how other people play and that’s stupid

[dark osprey]

When NV and storms are here the horror will be back in full swing

[humble sable]

The real solution is to just play Hypsi.

[burnt bone]

I can admit, hearing sounds of predators not too far away and getting closer is scary, especially while hiding in a corner because you cant fight them

[humble sable]

Can't even remember the last time I felt angry at dying.

[drifting steeple]

Are storms coming soon or is that another idea that's a ways out?

[somber mesa]

hell, hearing ai footsteps make me jumpy

[candid mulch]

When dilos are back then horror will go up

[burnt bone]

EXACTLY

[spare hearth]

Oh I def get angry but I get over it cuz its a gotdayum video game, shit happens lol

[candid mulch]

It’s up9 I think?

[burnt bone]

its 8, 9 is qol

[drifting steeple]

I killed 4 juvie utahs as a hypsi with a group yesterday haha

1 at a time obviously

[humble sable]

I jumped over a family of Deinos today.

I see we've got different priorities

[drifting steeple]

Lmfaooo

I respect deimos enough to keep my distance

[burnt bone]

I'm not gonna lie, i have jumped too many times because I'm anticipating something to come around the corner, and a ptera just screeches above me

[drifting steeple]

I've seen what they capable of

[dark osprey]

@spare hearth it infuriates me when I get 1 banged after spawning in, but only because I can't spawn back there for a few mins lol

[humble sable]

I just get jumpscared by Deinos consistently

[agile lark]

Here’s the thing. At the end of the day, it’s a game - and one with mechanics that you need to utilize. If you don’t like getting killed - then learn to fight. Learn to hide, or grow a herd/pack so you have a larger chance of survival. At the end of the day, it’s a survival game, and part of it is learning how to survive for longer.

[drifting steeple]

Perfectly put

[spare hearth]

Yea that def is annoying but its funny when im a juvie utah and get rammed by a large carno outta nowhere my model goes fuckin flying sometimes lol

[drifting steeple]

Lmfaoooo fr

Or the moment when a deino catches you drinking, so terrifying haha

[dark osprey]

At least 3 times a day that happens Xd

[agile lark]

Jump scares me everytime xD

[burnt bone]

models going flying is always hilarious, its partly why I mostly play pachy atm lol

[somber mesa]

deinos have put the fear of water into my soul

[drifting steeple]

🤣🤣🤣 water in video games in general is just a nope for me

[drifting steeple]

Haha the shark from jak and daxter did that for me growing up

[somber mesa]

i dont think i can drink normally even on legacy now XD

[spare hearth]

Oh yesss my fav is kicking babies as a teno, that kick has the most hilarious trajectory to me, like kicking a baby off the dam

[deep notch]

see, thats toxic mental. people think that bc its "just a game" they can say and do whatever that want and dont bother to think about anyone else but themselves

[drifting steeple]

That's ptsd g haha

[drifting steeple]

You want people to stunt their own gameplay so that you can enjoy yours more?

Kinda entitled if you ask me

[deep notch]

yeah keep harassing me

[agile lark]

Just because you don’t want to learn how to become better at the game, doesn’t mean everyone else should have to suffer or the game have strict rules. This is a vicious nature game - the strongest/ smartest survive. If you don’t like it, then perhaps it’s not the game for you.

[spare hearth]

No its not toxic, just cuz ur feeling get hurt by things happening in a video game doesn’t make it toxic, at the end of the day I think u need to toughen up a lil how u get urself in a twist over this game is beyond me

[dark osprey]

Be more aware of your surroundings that's basically what it comes down to

[candid mulch]

You’re playing victim real bad at this point

[deep notch]

im not even talking about just the isle however, its become a issue throughout many games

[drifting steeple]

You dont know what harrassment is lmfao. When you leave I dont message you, I only reply when you say something, that's not harrassment, you can just stop replying and I will as well, and I have

[spare hearth]

Like I get it can be frustrating at times but good golly bruh its ok to have ur feeling hurt a lil

[dark osprey]

Nyan your gonna die in worse and more creative ways to come in the future, that's just the way it is lol

[humble sable]

Just offering my two cents for a moment, this channel is about the isle, so I don't see where other games come in here.

[deep notch]

i just dont want to die to kosers anymore

[drifting steeple]

I half think they trolling and half think they just really like that unfortunately

[deep notch]

or mixpacking carnis and herbis

[humble sable]

Than join an unofficial server.

[deep notch]

implementing rules would be more that just kosing aswell

[candid mulch]

Yeah I’m starting to think the same thing lmao

[somber mesa]

on the other hand, KOsers can be fun. they predictably agressive, so you can mess them up really bad

[humble sable]

They implement rules for stuff like that.

[deep notch]

unofficial servers have a over abundant amount of rules

[dark osprey]

Join them then try it yourself, your going to probably killing people that would otherwise kill you on sight too

[humble sable]

So you want rules, but not too many rules?

[agile lark]

They are my fav to kill on my teno :p

[candid mulch]

Play safe

[deep notch]

yes, just a couple simple rules

[agile lark]

Join a role play server

[deep notch]

not shit like when a body drops the fight stops, you gotta 3 call everything etc

[somber mesa]

i got an agro raptor today, gave him every chance to leave, he chose violence

[humble sable]

Some things aren't simple enough for just a couple sentences.

[spare hearth]

I get it dawg but it’s just a part of reality in how players play games and how people interact with other ppl in general, you tellin me you never fuck with other people cuz it’s entertaining, hell no aint no way

[humble sable]

But I hope you can find a server that fits your tastes.

[worn pumice]

KOSing is simply part of the game theres no way around it

[drifting steeple]

Exactly

[worn pumice]

things will kill other things for fun in very simple terms

[spare hearth]

U gotta fuck with ppl every once in a while at least

[drifting steeple]

Oh yeh its great

[somber mesa]

theres only a few things you can do in this game after you have grown

[dark osprey]

It's part of being intelligent, look at orcas they kill shit for fun irl. Lol people defo going to do it in game like this

[worn pumice]

quite frankly im not sure what else you can do apart from well just fighting

only recently was nesting added

once more things come it will be better hopefully

[agile lark]

I have to admit, I really like that you can only talk to your species, and there is no global chat. It makes the game a lot less toxic in that aspect and more about skill.

I had a 1v1 fight with a carno on my teno that lasted ages, we were both exhausted and out of stam. He eventually won and two called once I died. It was a good fight :p

[worn pumice]

def agree, global chat was sort of a nuisance since you just spend more time on that rather then actually playing the game

[agile lark]

Exactly

[somber mesa]

it had its charm. chatting while growing is fun

[dark osprey]

@agile lark being defeated in glorious battle

[worn pumice]

thats a growth issue and the isle still has very boring growth, especially for herbivores

its essentially a wait timer until your useful

[humble sable]

Imagine needing to grow

[agile lark]

[worn pumice]

if juvis were fun and viable in their own way it wouldnt be that bad

[somber mesa]

your thinking of it wrong. you play a different game. its not grow and then play, its just play

[worn pumice]

cant rly exactly "play" as a juvi

[dark osprey]

You can it's just harder

[somber mesa]

its just a different gameplay. or i just love being helpless and on the run XD

[candid mulch]

They said they’re gonna be improving Juvi gameplay so hopefully it fixes it

[worn pumice]

good

[agile lark]

You’re quite vulnerable as a juvie - so the only time you can actually ‘play’ as a juvie is to team up with confident adult dinos who know how to protect you if you get jumped, or best to play sneaky and concealed and focus on obtaining all 3 nutrients for max growth speed.

[deep notch]

the rules wouldnt be strictly against kosing however, thats the thing i think everyone focus on way too much, the kos aspect of it

[somber mesa]

yeah, the latter is where i found a lot of enjoyment. juvies are a hide and seek simulator, and im all in for it

[worn pumice]

implementing rules on official servers doesn't make sense when community servers do that

[deep notch]

community servers have wayyyy too many rules

those actually ruin the game

[worn pumice]

a lot of them do yea which is why i dont play on them

[humble sable]

I just don't have a reason to play on community servers

[somber mesa]

they have space XD

[humble sable]

a lot of their rules don't really apply to Hypsilophodon, who I kinda only play

[deep notch]

community servers are also like pay to win and admins go power hungry

[dark osprey]

I don't think most people KOS unless your on the diet, I rarely see Utah KOS Utah, though it does happen, not often enough to be a problem

[drifting steeple]

I like to KoS but I don't do it to my own species, however I dont think it shouldnt be allowed, I dont get mad when someone of my species attacks me, I just fight back or run, cuz it's part of the game

[candid mulch]

Same

[worn pumice]

the real issue is people using hacks

[dark osprey]

Fight or flight at the end of the day isn't it, I've had to take down my own kind before if they start something

[candid mulch]

Thankfully I’ve never encountered a hacker yet

[somber mesa]

wait, what can you even hack in this game?

[worn pumice]

yes i have a whole clip of me fighting a hacking stego

he got banned on the spot

[candid mulch]

Yeah I seen a clip of a Stego with Utah speed

[drifting steeple]

The anticheat is pretty decent tho isnt it?

[worn pumice]

idk

clearly people know how to get around it

[drifting steeple]

Yeh

[worn pumice]

I would've chosen BattleEye but then again idk how much that would cost

[somber mesa]

i think the price tag is a bigger detergent

but it also helps

[novel cosmos]

I mean I don't really agree I had a lot of fun talking to people, but then again i never treated the game like it was a combat game

[fading pecan]

Anyone else have the problem where they can’t lower their horizontal and vertical sensitivity lower than 2.5 in settings in the Axis category?

[agile lark]

Yeah, but then you had the issue in legacy where people would just sit around and chat the entire time and rarely ever travel about the map. Making all the herbies hide in one place and create sort of a dull environment in the world imo

[bleak birch]

And this is why you are not enjoying the game while literally everyone else is. If you’re playing this game thinking how a person should think in modern society, you’re gunna have a bad time and get eaten fast. Adapt

[agile lark]

Exactly. The whole point of the game is to think and move like a dino. If I had to guess, I'm pretty sure passion isnt on the top of a dino's list in nature.

I believe they meant compassion, but either way. Compassion really has no room in a dino survival game :p

[bleak birch]

Agreed. I’ve had plenty of crappy things happen to me in this game and I just think “man, dinosaur life must have been rough”. It makes no sense to me to get angry at this game and demand immersion breaking and gameplay limiting rules

I disagree with Carni/Herbi mix packing, but when I die to it, I just imagine that they must have figured out some kind of complementary relationship, which sometimes did happen in those times I’m sure.

I got spawn killed as an adult and my first thought was “that was unfortunate timing to log in with a carno right there”

[limber hull]

holy shit this argument was a wild ride

[humble sable]

And one that has dragged on, I think we oughta just forget it by now

[severe dove]

wth kinda dino takes 16h to grow

[worn pumice]

compy

[limber hull]

the beast

[thorny crystal]

Any of them

[limber hull]

how

how is it taking THAT long

[severe dove]

this i can believe, the god of preds

[thorny crystal]

Bad game mechanics

[limber hull]

????

[worn pumice]

[limber hull]

the only animal that can possibly take that long is deino

and you'd have to be basically avoiding your diet to do that

[severe dove]

with 0 diet

[thorny crystal]

No AI spawns or Players is the other problem

[limber hull]

then play on servers with players

[worn pumice]

idek how to avoid deino diet cuz the only ai u can reliably get is fish which is on ur diet so

[limber hull]

or eat the ton of fish in rivers

[severe dove]

just by eating fish it would take less than 16h