isle-lore-theories

[vast grove]

I'm in the lore pit, a place where I have no ideas and I'm stuck

[acoustic osprey]

Not even turned away. They went chaotic and grew bitter towards AE

https://docs.google.com/document/d/102ETakYa1vH0VHC9hs_i_kSuum9aVcuH0G4_CobBPr8/edit#heading=h.f5xztjmu9ha6
This is good

[rustic nexus]

Now they must DIEEEE

[acoustic osprey]

Seeing as they're a bio-engineering company, I presume they want to preserve

[frigid anvil]

I read the entire doc, it was a fun read

[rustic nexus]

True true

[vast grove]

Wait it's a bioengineering company?

[acoustic osprey]

biological engineering.
But on a sci-fi level

[rustic nexus]

^

[frigid anvil]

Well they made the dinos and genetically modified humans SOMEHOW

[acoustic osprey]

Eg. Cloning, which isn't technically sci-fi. But imagine it on a sci-fi level

[vast grove]

Well that kicks me out of my lore pit of no ideas

Haha! I feel a idea slowly forming...

[acoustic osprey]

it's ok

[acoustic osprey]

We presume this is like JP
Just an alt-history story

[long onyx]

dondi said that lore things would be coming around june

[small marsh]

Wait

[acoustic osprey]

Yep

[frigid anvil]

What's that acronym? I don't think I know that

[rustic nexus]

Thats too far man

[vast grove]

They are bioengineering Dino's, but for what? It's not bio weapons to counter them and ae must have the power to stop them...

[acoustic osprey]

Jurassic Park

[vast grove]

But they don't want to kill of their experiment...

[rustic nexus]

I actually had a theory on this before

[small marsh]

Maybe gen 1 are the Hypos? Bio-Weapons that were made, but got out of hand?

[rustic nexus]

Lemme see if i can find it

[frigid anvil]

Ohhhh okay I had a brain fart

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

Gen 1 are Tribals (aka Cannibals)

[vast grove]

I guess AE is stuck in a crises where they need to stop Dino's but they don't want to kill their experiment

[rustic nexus]

#isle-lore-theories message

[small marsh]

Ah

[vast grove]

GOODBYE LORE PIT!

I have a theory! My first actual one!

And I think it's a good one!

[acoustic osprey]

ciao

[acoustic osprey]

Yes.
Gen 2 are Mercs (humans)

[small marsh]

They cloned humans?

[vast grove]

Well any ideas to add to mine?

[acoustic osprey]

We're not sure if they cloned humans or genetically modified a person

[vast grove]

Hmmm

To monitor the dinos

Right?

Not to stop them because the Dino's went there yet

[small marsh]

Maybe we do have cctvs

But what is the deal with spawning as a Dinosaur?

[acoustic osprey]

We do in Legacy

[vast grove]

I'm stuck on the lore pit! Again!

[acoustic osprey]

Well, just the game.
We're mainly just playing either the dinosaurs left on Spiro or Humans (or Tribals)
All, to what we can believe, were made by AE

[rustic nexus]

Whats a cctv

[vast grove]

And I'm deep in the pit now

[acoustic osprey]

closed-circuit television

[rustic nexus]

Oh

[vast grove]

Can't. Get. out.

[acoustic osprey]

aka. Surveillance camera @rustic nexus

[vast grove]

No. More. Lore ideas!

[small marsh]

Or a human consciences were transferred to the dinosaurs

[rustic nexus]

Why not

[acoustic osprey]

Which eh
isn't an amazing theory

[vast grove]

I had that idea too and I'm stuck because I have no ideas

[small marsh]

Possible

[vast grove]

The lore pit has taken me....

Now what?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[vast grove]

Will I never lore on the isle again?

[small marsh]

Wait Primal and The Isle? Why does AE want to make the Dinos fight? That would just be a waste of finance right?

[vast grove]

More lore?

I can get out of the pit!

[acoustic osprey]

No

[frigid anvil]

I don't think it's their intention, it didn't seem like All-Father killing Thronebreaker was something they intended at all

[vast grove]

I can't change my name but I'm out of the pit!

[frigid anvil]

You never left the pit in the first place, this is your home now

[small marsh]

Thronebreaker?

[vast grove]

Oh no. The no idea zone the lore pit..I'm stuck there...

[frigid anvil]

nickname for the Hyperendocrin Tyrannosaurus

[vast grove]

But I can get back to you know, normal lore level?

Right?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[vast grove]

Phew

[small marsh]

"Something Colossal Is Coming This Way?"

[vast grove]

What?

[small marsh]

Hypo Spino?

[vast grove]

Would make sense

[long onyx]

are we ever gonna get a new transmission?

[rustic nexus]

Sure but not anytime soon tbh

[vast grove]

No! Arcode is in the lore pit !

[small marsh]

Or a rival companies' animal?

[vast grove]

He is out of ideas!

Ooh.

That's a good idea

[small marsh]

But who made the Hypos?

[frigid anvil]

Pretty sure AE did

[acoustic osprey]

AE

[vast grove]

A rival company to kill of AE s Dino's?

[rustic nexus]

Æ made every single strain

[acoustic osprey]

^ to what we know
Could change 🙂

[vast grove]

Hmmm

[small marsh]

Maybe to destroy the facility as a whole?

[acoustic osprey]

Could change to The Replicator

[frigid anvil]

Well didn't they steal All-Father?

[vast grove]

Wow arcode we are on fire

[acoustic osprey]

Yep

[small marsh]

A invasive species would pretty sure destroy the delicate balance of the island

[acoustic osprey]

hence why they'll starve really quickly

[vast grove]

brain lore overloaded, stop now

lore getting full

[acoustic osprey]

there's more

[frigid anvil]

Hyperendocrines need to eat constantly or they'll starve

[acoustic osprey]

^

[vast grove]

brain dying

initialise reboot

rebooting

reboot successful

[frigid anvil]

I'm more interested in the Neurotenic strains, they seem like they might be a 3rd party in the lore and there isn't a lot we know about them

[acoustic osprey]

Echidna, yes
And maybe even Eyeless too

[vast grove]

proceed with lore

[long onyx]

I have a cool idea: hypo plants, theres like 5 of em around the island and when u eat them u start becoming a hypo-my first message in islecord

[small marsh]

Do you think AE is in any kind of financial trouble?

[acoustic osprey]

No

[vast grove]

I bet! They can't control their own Dino's now!

[frigid anvil]

I think they're more like in physical trouble

[vast grove]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

an actual thing

[small marsh]

Then what does The man you owe cannot collect his debt mean

[acoustic osprey]

The Replicator, pretty much

[frigid anvil]

Also I think Neurotenic can spread through touch

Or biological material at least

[acoustic osprey]

could definitely be in reference to a favour

[vast grove]

I can't think of anything anymore

[small marsh]

a favour to who?

[vast grove]

This is so mutch lore

[acoustic osprey]

To who is a good question

[frigid anvil]

Maybe it could be related to operation inferno

[acoustic osprey]

but WHY can't he collect the debts?

The man you owe cannot collect his debt

[vast grove]

What is that?

Operation inferno?

[frigid anvil]

The operation where AE stole Phoneix's assets

Aka dinos, probably by force

[small marsh]

And moved them to Evrima

[vast grove]

Ah

[small marsh]

Deinosuchus could be one of them

[vast grove]

I need a break, my brain hurts, permission to have a break from lore?

[small marsh]

sure just go sleep in the lore cave there

[vast grove]

Thx

[long onyx]

Permission denied

[vast grove]

Noooooooo

Tied!

[small marsh]

Permission to touch grass

[vast grove]

Yes!

[long onyx]

Remain seated in your chair

[frigid anvil]

Hmm I dunno about that, I only saw those four got stolen

[vast grove]

Noo!

[long onyx]

Permission granted

[vast grove]

Yes!

[small marsh]

touches grass

[vast grove]

I was actually just pacing around my room

[small marsh]

Wait

did Phoenix create the Hypos

[vast grove]

But I'm actually going to touch grass now

[long onyx]

No get back in your chair

[vast grove]

DudgdgdgdgdtdtdNOOOOOOOO

[long onyx]

Permission denied Permission denied

[vast grove]

https://tenor.com/view/anxiety-gif-18811591

[rustic nexus]

N o Æ did

[long onyx]

Do not go past spawn do not collect 200$

[vast grove]

RusHELPdjwbxiME

[frigid anvil]

AE created the hypos, I'm not sure what did it mean by "acquired assets" as well

[small marsh]

Primal Carnage is owned by Phoenix

Æ owned the Isle

maybe?

[vast grove]

permission to temporally die to get peace

?

[small marsh]

Because Phoenix owned the Novaraptor a exclusive species to primal

[rustic nexus]

Yes correct

[frigid anvil]

Pretty much

[rustic nexus]

Permission granted

[acoustic osprey]

no

[vast grove]

Yes...

[long onyx]

Permission granted, die for 10 minutes

[vast grove]

dies

[acoustic osprey]

Pheonix made Magnas

[frigid anvil]

TheEnDiSnEvErThEEnDiSNEvEr

[small marsh]

How did Primal Carnage's assets be released into their facility...

[acoustic osprey]

Stolen

[small marsh]

And Extinction what does it mean

[acoustic osprey]

Extinction is another game
unrelated to PC and Isle

[frigid anvil]

Operation Phoneix

[frigid anvil]

I don't think that one's related to the isle?

[acoustic osprey]

yep

[frigid anvil]

Only the first one

[small marsh]

Why haven't we seen the Primal's T-rex, Acro etc

heck Novaraptor

We have only seen Hypo Rex and Quetza

[acoustic osprey]

Not everything in Primal will or can come to Evrima

[small marsh]

We have not seen novaraptor

[acoustic osprey]

Some things, in my opinion, should just be ignored from PC's lore.
With PC's actual lore being partially of what PC did in Isle's lore

Realistically, a lot of limitations given where Dondi can have more creative freedom

[vast grove]

alive

That felt really short

[small marsh]

Only one of you will remain...

[vast grove]

What?

[acoustic osprey]

Survive The Isle

[vast grove]

Ye I saw that

[small marsh]

What happens if you have a complete profile

[vast grove]

I just got back what's happening

[small marsh]

and why is chorn the only one to have a complete profile

[vast grove]

Wh...

What is happening

[long onyx]

nothing

[vast grove]

Oh hi thx for break

[long onyx]

Permission to go to sleep granted

[vast grove]

dies again

[rustic nexus]

Most likely

He has completed the cycle and fulfilled his contract

[small marsh]

Growth Cycle?

[small marsh]

and what is the contract

[rustic nexus]

Im not sure tbh

[rustic nexus]

A thousand lives

[long onyx]

why is carno so important in legacy

it had a subadult form

and a hypo

i mean its only 2 things

but only apexes have thos

[cinder shoal]

because carno is cool, thats why

[cinder shoal]

Rule of cool: is it cool, then why not?

Unless they make an actual reason to backup their choice.

[acoustic osprey]

I'm wondering if H Carno will get a redesign.
As much as it is cool, would be interesting to see

Looks nice

[loud gate]

Very nice tbh

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[sharp knoll]

Maybe H Giga will too because of the new design

Could make the horns bigger

Not actually bigger, a little bit

[acoustic osprey]

I presume a lot will, I hope

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/peacemaker-peace-thanks-hello-john-cena-gif-24581779

[long onyx]

my ears

they dead

[long onyx]

oh it got removed poggers

[lament plinth]

I just found something i think is lore related in evrima. I dont know if its been found before or not but idk

The sound is in game

[oblique surge]

that's a hidden (behind the wall) tar pit iirc

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[knotty locust]

@neon mesa i made another generalk feedbackap saopk solt

[native marsh]

Sup. I've had the Isle for a long time but I've never really been able to find or figure out the lore of the game. I watched some videos the other day about like human consciousness uploaded into the dinosaurs. Does someone have anything on that or how the island came to exist with dinosaurs and strange human buildings around? Would much appreciate a run-down on most of the main lore of the Isle 🙂

[deft maple]

you guys think theres a way to glitch through the border of the map to see the rest of the island? I have always wondered this and was trying to do so for ages, pretty much since the 3rd major update for evrima

[acoustic osprey]

You can go into spec mode as an admin and search the whole map

[deft maple]

can u spawn there tho?

[ocean vale]

You can walk and explore the rest of the map once you're outside the main borders, yes

[deft maple]

_>

damm

half a year was for nothin lol

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

It's also pretty much nothing

Just a bunch of eucalyptus

From update 2.
Alongside a tiny bit of Easter eggs and nothing

[deft maple]

oof

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

[old stone]

There's a document in pins that has most of the legacy lore iirc

[acoustic osprey]

With a good amount of Evrimas lore

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[frozen totem]

Definitely

[sharp island]

Has anyone translated the Morse code and static at the EVRIMA radio tower yet?

[silk token]

Can someone give me a run down of the isle lors

lore

[sharp island]

Check pinned posts

[silk token]

ty

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[icy onyx]

L chat

[acoustic osprey]

👍

Look, I'm not sure you understand.
The Isle HAS to be originated from the late 80s to the early 90s- which means, in the current "time"
This means we should be at least playing in a more contemporary setting. Aka. 2020s or 2030s
HOWEVER, we see in #transmissions that the person talking reports "Ident. AE-012.NHS Batch 12. Released July 23rd, 2018"
Will this stay in canon? Or are we seeing a jump in time when Dondi might spoil some lore in June

[late marsh]

[flat spear]

Hear me out, dinosaurs. Yeah, shocking, right? That’s my theory.

[strong patio]

I had The Isle since 2018 but Idk the lore so

[flat spear]

I think it’s basically site B from jurrasic park

But I think there is a bunch of weird fantasy in it too

[late marsh]

I don't think they're always talking dinks either let's be real

True that^

Dinosaurs**

My phone bruh

[flat spear]

But like, it’s dinosaurs? Why weird fantasy? Just …. Dinosaur.

[late marsh]

yes. Exact

Ure on point

[flat spear]

[late marsh]

[strong patio]

Did AE or Pheonix make those guys

[flat spear]

I know the phoenix and AE, but what do you mean? Made wut?

If you mean phoenix or AE made the Dino’s in site B, I feel like it would be both, they worked together to make it

Even though site B doesn’t exist in the isle universe, but I think something similar definitely does, maybe like primal carnage

[old stone]

I have a theory that the dinosaurs aren't dinosaurs at all, but rather a new type of organism engineered to be similar to dinosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

More like more sci-fi

[frozen totem]

Eh... Ima disagree

[glass coral]

Agreed

[long onyx]

oops this is #isle-lore-theories

[old stone]

Understandable, but I do want to hear your reason

[frozen totem]

Too similar to dinos/ no evidence

[old stone]

Well, the entire basis of me theory is reliant upon whether or not the isle universe ignores the rule of DNA decay, or has time travel

If it does ignore the rule of DNA decay, or has time travel, then my theory goes out the window

If it doesn't ignore the DNA decay rule, and doesn't have time travel, then I think that my theory is pretty solid because, well, how would they have aquired dinosaur DNA?

[strange shell]

It already ignores the most fundamental laws of physics, so...

[old stone]

I think my theory is still a possibility

Though, we'll just have to wait and see when we get lore on the dinosaurs creation

[frozen totem]

they would most likely just "reverse engineer" birds

[old stone]

Ok

Then those aren't the dinosaurs of old, they're new organisms made in the semblance of dinosaurs

[frozen totem]

still dinosaurs tho

[old stone]

Using the modern avian dinosaurs of today as a basis

[frozen totem]

ok, if what ur saying is that dinos in the isle are basically just creatures with the base genome of birds and added genomes of other animals to make them look like old dinos, then i think i kinda agree

cus initially i thought u were meaning they were like aliens or something

[old stone]

Oh no, not aliens

Definitely not

Just Æ creating creatures resembling mesozoic dinosaurs using extremely heavily modified modern DNA

[late marsh]

humans used to dig for minerals, collect resources like a group of people getting stranded on an island? before the dinosaurs would become a real threat, dinosaurs kinda took over, multiplied, it took several complications. they tore down camps and destroyed their assets. human species evolved, created large ports/buildings for protection, many died trying to find a route, a safe area. they admitted to the beaches and deep dense forests. alot were separated, they used communication devices. after a series of years, knew they were going to stay on the island had to use weapons that could hold against dinosaurs. spears, knifes, bows and hammers. because of this evolution they soon grew not too far from cavemen. the modern human still exists. humans and their amount of survival and toleration, hidden in the wild created dinosaurs to hunt more of eachother. resulting more in cannibalism. *sort of a storytime but my idea.

not gonna reference isles story to any movies or books rn either.

[old stone]

The buildings on the island were very very likely made by Æ, and the tribals aren't really humans, but rather very tall and strong humanoids with a brutal society and culture, if you can even call it a society or culture. At least, as far as we know

[frozen totem]

Ok heres my opinion, NO

wrong

❌

[late marsh]

okay gotcha, it was just the gist i got out of it, but ive never looked very deeply into the lore, just what i depicted / thought of, kinda from my imagination. my bad! kinda underestimated

[acoustic osprey]

humans used to dig for minerals, collect resources like a group of people getting stranded on an island
We're still going off a lot of AE (Apollo Engineering)

Dinosaurs "took over"
is an ok theory- We can presume it was the combination of Tribals (Gen 1 Human experiments) going insane and The Replicator.

human species evolved
Is talked about above.
Humans didn't "Evolve".
Seeing as you're talking about Tribals (AKA Gen 1, AKA Cannibals) they were genetically mutated from humans by AE- either from a human donor or DNA donor

the modern human still exists
That's just Gen 2, Mercs, which we believe have also been genetically mutated like Gen 1- but better.

[late marsh]

That makes more sense, thank you!

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[patent shell]

why is this patch 6GB

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-discussion It's mostly Structure changes and such

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ef-rjHbpANM
Just from Today's Phase Two

isle ███. Inhabitant species: Ceratosaurus - Retrieved Trail Camera Footage.

[warm musk]

will the cerato be playble?

[strong patio]

Yes

[frigid anvil]

Hmm, not a lot of clues from that vid, pretty much like every other camera footage

[icy onyx]

Really just looks like an animal reserve that keeps getting more and more dinosaurs to make the perfect ecosystem, all those sites being eventually abandoned due to something pushing them out and now they do most of their research off the island somewhere nearby

[late marsh]

i love these 😱 soso impressive so much talent

[desert barn]

I highlighted the three boxes in the description of the new video, and copied & pasted them into a block translator. It translated them to "lii", which in Roman Numerals is the number 52.

[hexed flax]

In the video it said "region 04". I highly doubt that 52 islands full of dinosaurs would go unnoticed. It might just be #04

[desert barn]

Ohh, that makes sense, I hadn't finished watching the video yet LOL

I was looking into it further and couldn't find any other "block translator", so it might have just been bs altogether

Still, I liked feeling clever there for a moment

[icy onyx]

So what is the lore of the isle?

Like origins, these cannibals i hear of, hypos, neuros, n the others.

[old stone]

I sort of doubt, since you have stuff like strains that fuck over the ecosystem, plus tribals who apparently regularly brutalize and enslave the dinos, plus the likelihood of Æ trying to perfect humans, based on the human experimentation they seem to be conducting.

[old stone]

There's a document in pins that has most of the known lore bits put together

Although, how much if it is currently canon is up in the air right now

[icy onyx]

Maybe they just dont care and are just studying the tribals in harsh environments with dinosaurs to make them stronger and adapted

[icy onyx]

Thanks

[old stone]

It's pretty clear that the tribals don't like Æ, and follow the replicator and the echidna iirc

Also, the tribals are like, 9ft tall humanoids as far as we know

[icy onyx]

Well ofcourse they dont like them, who knows, maybe they are taking some of the tribals for studies and the tribals dont like that, maybe they just use tribal DNA to inject into people to enhance their immune system eventually making things like the cannibals

[old stone]

Cannibals are just another name for tribals

The eyeless things are something we don't know the origin of

[icy onyx]

eh maybe other kinds of mutant humanoids

[old stone]

In any case, I highly doubt that Æ's goal is to make a nature reserve

[icy onyx]

atleast very simmilar to one

[strange shell]

Remember tribals are NOT natives to the island. They're people who've been brought there and genetically modified over the course of a few generations
Or if they were natives, they have nothing left in common with who they once were, be it physically, mentally or culturally

[old stone]

No, not even that. I'm fairly certain that it's hinted at that the creatures were never meant to be roaming free, they broke loose

[icy onyx]

Well makes sence since almost no human building has gates or strong fencing

[strange shell]

I'd say the opposite, since although there are ruined buildings, there is no trace of a fence or wall other than the dam (which is there to block the swamp's water, not dinos)
Also every building we see is somewhat fortified, hidden or underground
We also saw concept arts for choppers humans used to get around the island, all of this should meant that dinos were always meant to roam free on the island, with humans observing them from the relative safety of bunkers or from the sky
Things like strains are another story, there is quite a big chance that they were never meant to escape the facilities they were born in

[frozen totem]

AE isn't putting dinos on the island, the replicater is (Replicater is a freak AI)

[acoustic osprey]

Well

[frozen totem]

well what?...

am i being a stupido

[acoustic osprey]

No

[frozen totem]

[acoustic osprey]

The idea of fences in Evrima has been a thing for a while, don't forget

[frozen totem]

on one legacy map, weren't there these giant most likely wip fences?

i know legacy isnt totally canon but still

[acoustic osprey]

This is what we know

Gen 1 (Tribals) were created by AE some many years ago.
Gen 1 went insane and chaotic -> They started following The Replicator and Echidna took them down as children.
Some time later AE make Gen 2 (Humans) -> They are, like Gen 1, all genetically created
(However, we're not sure if it's via cloning or genetic addition to humans)

This is the most relevant piece of lore, excluding the loading card and pachy video you'll get

[acoustic osprey]

I say yes and no

If their basic dinosaurs "broke out" why wouldn't they have Mercs/Gen 2 use big guns and take back their dinosaurs upfront?

Or, why don't they just kill everything and redo Spiro.

I believe something did break out, which causes Spiro to be "free of AE's presence temporarily"
That being a mixture of Tribals going insane, recorded in Transmissions, and Strains and/or The Replicator and it's goons.

I presume it's not as dramatic as it seems. Either The Replicator is AE's doing or someone else's doing without their knowledge

Hence why they're still sending out Gen 2 Mercs to research Spiro and other islands

[lament matrix]

Basically like Jurassic Park in a sense. Why wouldn't they bomb everything to contain it? Unless they wanted this to happen.

[acoustic osprey]

Well yes. But I presume AE are a lot more cautionary- they prefer preserving, like Hammond, their dinosaurs.

[lament matrix]

True.

Maybe the mercs are there to only eliminate the tribals & cannibals maybe?

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe. Just, why aren't they armed. Is the question then

(Mercs)

[lament matrix]

(Well humans in the game are just there for testing until we get a firearms update.) There's endless possibilities, maybe it's idk death row or lifer inmates given another chance to survive or horribly perish from prehistoric beings & natives.

[acoustic osprey]

It's always been the idea that Mercs spawn in with a knife and flashlight- where they have to find weapons to survive

Like ProjectZomboid

[lament matrix]

They get weapons from supply drops or do they find them in the buildings located throughout the map?

[acoustic osprey]

Mostly buildings. However supply drops has been an idea before

[rustic nexus]

A field test on if they can survive in an ecosystem where virtually everything can kill them 👍

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[frozen totem]

Or they're sent there to try and gather data on stuff like the replicator?

[acoustic osprey]

maybe gather on The Replicator and how it's changed the environment?

[frozen totem]

Hmm... Lore👍

[acoustic osprey]

very true

[rustic nexus]

We need June, the isle lore theories needs him

[acoustic osprey]

true that

[last thistle]

does anyone have a theory on why dinosaurs' screens start lagging when we come near some human buildings?

[acoustic osprey]

To keep people away from sitting there

[last thistle]

ohh well alright thanks lmao

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[stone crater]

In-universe, likely some sort of chip in the brains of profiles inhabiting dinosaurs to keep them away from important human structures, or at least disorient them enough so that they aren’t as much of a threat to Apollo Engineering staff inside. If Replicated animals already have a tracker embedded in them (absent in nested animals) that allows Mercenaries to see them on their maps, it isn’t too much of a stretch

[slow delta]

im archiving the "lore sauce" from the cerato video

i see a lot of numbers that are not in binary though, maybe we need to do a hex translation

i updated my google docs

if anyone can find any additional info in the cera teaser (like background hex translated or hidden text), ping or dm me and i will credit you

google doc is in pinned messages btw for those that dont know

in hindsight i think the hope trailer might have more hex and binary code to decode but also since its been a while and most our clues have been lore sauce, i doubt it worth going back to the old stuff

ghost pinged, nice

[rustic nexus]

On the right hand side it says ae core data and some other text bellow it but i can’t really see

[slow delta]

i know, ive already wrote that down on the docs

[rustic nexus]

O

[acoustic osprey]

well, this is what I've gotten currently.
5925965798210240589604712595609706148545544154454654450554103215655(??)6694404545(??)536(?)

the (?)s and (??)s indicate that it becomes too dark to read the numbers, so it's mainly just trying outline where light forms first when you turn the opacity up from nothing and changing contrast and shadows on a histogram.
(one ? meaning the one before and two ? meaning the two before)

I also believe there are text beneath the main code, however it's quite impossible to read (the dark corner only barely).

[slow delta]

i tried decoding some numbers too but:

1. it doesnt look like hex since it doesnt contain letters
2. its hard to make out more than a few numbers at a time

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, I've been looking at other possible languages
nothing really

[slow delta]

i also tried playing with the brightness and contrast of screenshots to see if there is more text but nope

[acoustic osprey]

it mostly just reminds me of Isle's usual number set in the background

[slow delta]

true i think it's probably the same background number sequence used over and over

in previous videos like the hope one, the text and code was very visible because they wanted us to decode it

[acoustic osprey]

yea

[echo flower]

is there anyone bothered enough to decode stuff

[slow delta]

we have decoded most stuff already, the problem is finding more stuff to decode

[dapper basin]

the dinos r humans but wearing skins

[acoustic osprey]

no

[wicked brook]

the dinos have human brainssss

[acoustic osprey]

no

[teal junco]

The Dinos are Dinos

[half linden]

Someone told me it was a bit of a Dirk Gently situation, with human souls (or something) put into dinosaur bodies

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah that's a very yeah theory.

Highly unlikely.

[pure linden]

It's big brain time

[bronze moth]

This is The one that is ureadeable?

[dapper basin]

dinos r actually big lizards 🙂

[frozen totem]

Even though I know its a joke, by brain still wants to yell at you for saying that

[dapper basin]

🙂

[dapper basin]

What if the isle isn't real what if it's a simulation

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks

[gloomy hill]

Nah

[raven imp]

i took the numbers you guys pointed out and put them into coordinates. put me somewhere if Nigeria. i doubt it means anything but it's still interesting

[lament matrix]

Cloned prehistoric beings in Nigeria? Wouldn't doubt it.

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[honest pine]

I'm like 200% new to Isle lore (yes big noob here) but this is near the congo basin rainforest, home to Mokole-mbembe, supposedly a dinosaur cryptid living there, along with several lesser known dinosaur cryptids. Perhaps this has something to do with that?

[frozen totem]

Thats extremely racist and and im reporting you!

[lament matrix]

[warm nest]

Is there more info on this? I’m interested in reading it!

[acoustic osprey]

No

[warm nest]

[woeful chasm]

Best you can do is go through the pinned resources and watch Meatylock’s “What we know so far” Isle videos. None of us really know what lore/theories are still cannon. Last hint from Dondi was that June would be a time of potential lore drops

[acoustic osprey]

Which is still very old compared to Evrima.
Take it with a grain of salt till anything reconfirmed is announced

[woeful chasm]

Hence why I said we don't really know what is still relevant lol

[acoustic osprey]

You could be right about that

[manic viper]

alright?

[frozen totem]

Alright👍

[vocal relic]

Insightful 👍

[runic coral]

Truly the best analysis of the lore that any of us have ever seen

[peak raven]

not much analysis here but what if the isle takes place on an earth like planet owned by some money hungry corporation (creative ik) testing the dinos for some money scheme, weather that be for entertainment or war. hence why they have seemingly unlimited space for the dinos and have gigantic trees and bushes

[frozen totem]

This doesnt make sense. And the isle doesnt have giant trees and bushes

[peak raven]

yeah, in evrima at least, you can hide a full carno in 90% of the bushes in center

[acoustic osprey]

Well, it does have giant trees and plants.

[frozen totem]

Have u guys never seen big bushes irl?

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/893279859680366632/Strain_Plant_1.jpg

Which may or may not come

[peak raven]

I mean its possible ig but I feel like their way to common in evrima

at least

[frozen totem]

Not rly

[acoustic osprey]

Also money hungry is ehh etc etc
We know AE aren't "Evil generic corp"

[frozen totem]

And it IS earth

[acoustic osprey]

Earth (?)

[peak raven]

I mean I kinda just pulled it out my ass tbh

[oblique surge]

my beloved

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[frozen totem]

They said isle wasn't on earth

[acoustic osprey]

Dondi said Earth (?)

[peak raven]

it was kinda just a random thought I had while waiting around

[frozen totem]

Nothing pointing towards it being an alien planet

[acoustic osprey]

just Earth (?)

[frozen totem]

Its earth.

[acoustic osprey]

https://twitter.com/NotTheDondi/status/1421948680781713409

Dondi (@NotTheDondi)

Should probably update the Isle's Twitter page location to say "Earth(?)"

Likes

119

Twitter · Aug 1, 2021, 9:39 PM

[peak raven]

I just proposed it sense it you would need a significantly higher Oxygen content for it to be on earth for some of the trees and dinos and they fairly large amount of space they seem to have just for dinos and some operations

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-mandalorian-laugh-cry-gif-21495683

[peak raven]

if that makes sense

[frozen totem]

Isle goes by the sacred rule of "No realism, just vibes"

[acoustic osprey]

This is still a sci-fi game
and in a game with a bio-engineering company

[peak raven]

yeah, like I said just a kinda random thought I had randomly I definitely dont think im anywhere close to the reality just a random thought

[peak raven]

somewhat arguable but eh I see where you're coming from

[frozen totem]

Science

[pseudo fable]

Reminder: Many realistic games take place on a fictional Earth where it has its shit together just enough for the plot to work.

[oblique surge]

Cool theory dondi but I’m no so sure about it 🤔

[tranquil galleon]

hard to say

[frozen totem]

Did dindo rly just support my theory?

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, limitations to "real earth" boundaries (worldbuilding) are never the way to go for video games.
Especially ones like this.

where "Sci-Fi" is definitely stressed

[raw flare]

My overly complicated theory (bear in mind though I'm on QA I have zero additional story knowledge)

• Scientific island in South America somewhere trying to clone & make dinos
• Dinos prove to be too social, first gen is totally screwed up without parents to show them how to act, like with elephants raised as orphans
• They take imprints of the scientists' minds and use those in the dinos to see if they can get better behavior patterns, which is fine because the dinos' brains are too stupid to really make the most of that but the social conditioning is now there
• Something horrific happens, maybe some dinos get too smart or a rival company sends mercs, and all the scientists die. The park starts falling into a wild state
• the Replicator that makes dinos and shoves human minds inside now desperately tries to preserve the dead peoples' minds and memories by putting them into the dinos, but again, dinos are too stupid
• So it starts trying to make more human-like dino creatures to "revive" the people, forming those fucked-up cannibals and so on

[acoustic osprey]

If you're referring to "First Gen" as "Gen One" (from #transmissions)
That's the Cannibals (aka. Tribals)

[raw flare]

no first gen dinos

not referring to transmissions I mean 😄

[acoustic osprey]

Alright, just checking.

[half linden]

Spooky tree

[eager terrace]

I can't believe that trees can be spooky too.

[echo gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-treebeard-gif-18964923

[zinc mica]

Has anyone seen this image somewhere in the game?
I found it near the images for the easy anticheat loading screen

[frigid anvil]

Oh crap I haven't seen that one in the docs before, maybe it's something we missed or it just lacks any important content

[zinc mica]

Nah it was in the .exe

I decompiled it with Ghidra

[frigid anvil]

hmm, I tried to screw around with the contrast and brightness to make the bushes in the back a little more visible but I got nothing, I feel like it doesn't have any clues in it

[eager terrace]

He's gorgeous.

[eager terrace]

I see bamboos and ferns on the left but that's pretty much it in my opinion though who knows.

[frigid anvil]

Yeah, all I can see are bamboos and ferns, I tried to upscale it a little but it was still just that

[frozen totem]

no ppl brains in dinos and no park

[rustic nexus]

Thats not related to the lore, the anti cheat logo is a panda and panda’s eat bamboo so there’s the correlation

[wicked brook]

I think your close

[zinc mica]

What does HADES stand for

[eager terrace]

Oh.

[zinc mica]

help
all
deceased
employees
&
scientists?

lol

[zinc mica]

yeah probably
this is where I saw it

[rustic nexus]

O

[frozen totem]

(dont lie to them)

[jovial mauve]

I am groot

[frigid anvil]

well, everyone's close if we can't even see the goalpost

[eager terrace]

Groot's cute though.

[jovial mauve]

and wrinkly

[eager terrace]

Still cute.

[carmine zephyr]

#WhatIf with the new eggs system they introduced an Oviraptor. A dino that would thrive on stealing eggs or hatchlings.

[sonic rampart]

Oviraptor is already confirmed, and this channel is for lore theories only

[carmine zephyr]

@sonic rampart where can I see the confirmation. My apologies ... Still new to discord and the isle.

[sonic rampart]

A few of the confirmed creatures are listed here, there's also every animal that was present in the legacy version and many more on top of that https://trello.com/b/G5tsb4XI/public-roadmap

[covert grove]

So what do we know about the lore so far?

[sharp knoll]

check the pins

[covert grove]

Thanks bro

[acoustic osprey]

This is what we know *about Mercs and Tribals (Cannibals)

Gen 1 (Tribals) were created by AE some many years ago.
Gen 1 went insane and chaotic -> They started following The Replicator and Echidna took them down as children.
Some time later AE make Gen 2 (Humans) -> They are, like Gen 1, all genetically created
(However, we're not sure if it's via cloning or genetic addition)

This is the most relevant piece of lore, excluding the loading card and cerato + pachy video you'll get

[covert grove]

Sweet as

AE is sus

[frozen totem]

OR gen 2 are just ppl who have had genetic edits (no creation just real ppl)

[frozen totem]

It's confirmed AE isn't an evil company. stuff just went wrong

[covert grove]

I assume phoenix corp is in the same boat then?

[rustic nexus]

Phoenix international is not in the same boat afaik

[old stone]

We know that Æ aren't bad guys

[safe ravine]

Do we tho
What if Æ just thinks they aren't bad guys
hmmmmmm

It's always interesting seeing the hoops stories jump through to make the bad guy look like not a bad guy. I enjoy poking holes in their logic

[covert grove]

Is Phoenix doing some sus shit?

Its been ages since ive played isle and primal carnage and i barely remember the lore now lmfao

[old stone]

Dondi said that they aren't "generic evil corporation"

[rustic nexus]

Possibly? The one message we have heard from Phoenix is “Carnage comes home”

[covert grove]

They gonna take revenge on AE for stealing their assets or something?

[safe ravine]

Ok but consider there is more than generic evil I'm convinced there's some pretty shady shit going on. I mean come on, they're sending mercs with minimal supplies to a monster infested island

Or is it not AE that is sending the mercs? Do we know who is sending mercs to a monster infested island?

[old stone]

My theory is that they have a noble goal, but less then noble means of achieving it

[safe ravine]

I can see that. Like the chimera researcher in full metal alchemist

[acoustic osprey]

Gen 2 are Mercs

[icy onyx]

Dinosaurs actually lived with less oxygen than what there is nowadays
the atmosphere was less rich in oxygen than it is now, although it was still survivable

[frozen totem]

Im aware

[sleek temple]

Dinosaur

[rustic nexus]

🤷🏽‍♂️

[hoary musk]

INGEN didn’t see themselves as bad guys either but look how that played out.

[maiden sundial]

So they could fuel larger sizes?

[old stone]

Ingen is very shady and their only goal is greed and profit.
Imo it's likely that Æ's goal is far more selfless

[frozen totem]

false i beleive ya definitely

[river jolt]

isnt it the opposite

[hoary musk]

I wouldn’t go so far as to say selfless, if I had to guess there’s multiple departments that handle the humans, mammals (ai), dinosaurs and other reptiles, and the mutants. I think it’s the latter that will end up taking things too far.

[old stone]

The thing is, dondi explicitly stated that Æ arent the bad guys, or at least aren't evil

[hoary musk]

Okay, “aren’t evil” doesn’t equate to “did not screw up.”

That’s my theory: AE had good intentions but flubbed something in the process.

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

I definitely don't want AE playing good guys.
They still, originally, took assets from Phoenix. If that is still canon or not, we don't know

[old stone]

Once again, my theory is they have noble goals, but less then noble means of achieving them

This making them rather "morally ambiguous"

There's also the possibility of them doing bad shit because they don't have the time to do things the nice way, maybe an impending catastrophe?

Or perhaps a catastrophe has already happened and they have to seriously step up development on whatever they're trying to do

[acoustic osprey]

(Gen 1)

[old stone]

Basically, turning themselves into monsters because the alternative is worse

[old stone]

I'm talking about like, an even greater catastrophe, perhaps the reason why they were doing such extensive human modification in the first place

[acoustic osprey]

Gen 1 was ultimately a terrible experiment that went very bad.
I guess, if you're referring to "bad shit" as like a stuff up- that's your bad shit

[old stone]

I see that as more of a serious set back, but not the cause of the human experimentation in the first place

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[old stone]

So I think that there's something worse that's happening, or is going to happen, in the outside world, something that made all this horror necessary.

Because you don't just start doing this level of unregulated biological experimentation on both human and animal test subjects for the lols

[acoustic osprey]

yea

[river jolt]

ok

[rustic nexus]

I made a theory on why the may be doing this but im not sure how accurate it is

[old stone]

Tbf, no one is sure on how accurate their theories are

[rustic nexus]

Yea true we have little knowledge on whats still cannon or not

June cant come any sooner man

[icy onyx]

Nope, the mesozoic atmosphere indeed had less oxygen. There was more carbon in the atmosphere though, hence the hothouse climate in various places

Generally speaking, oxygen and dinosaur size have no correlation, instead the rise in gigantism after the Triassic simply resulting due to vacant niches

Anyway enough over arguing about climate, since it's got no relevancy to isle lore

[rustic nexus]

Welllll if you think about it…..

[icy onyx]

The lower oxygen levels wouldn't have impacted dinosaurs much because they had significantly more efficient respiratory systems than mammals (they have unidirectional air flow that gets rid of waste air much more easily, unlike the tidal breathing mammals have)

[rustic nexus]

You learn something new everyday

[prisma bronze]

Ah great, so, after being aware of this, i assume that modern humans would have a bit of a struggle in that same atmosphere, or would it be similar to something encountered in, lets say, modern shanghai

With that in mind, do our dinosaurs, lore wise, have a perk related to higher oxygen?

[acoustic osprey]

No

They're biologically made to breathe in our atmosphere

[icy onyx]

A lot of material regarding respiration would likely be coming from modern avian dinosaurs

[prisma bronze]

I see

[frozen totem]

Well sorry I doubted you

[void laurel]

The Mesozoic had about 30% oxygen while today has 21% oxygen in the atmosphere

And that was from a .edu source

But the 30% I averaged it. It was on a range of 25-35% oxygen

[frozen totem]

isle

[hard jetty]

groundbreaking work

[frozen totem]

ikr

[rare rose]

There is a person who figured out how to resurrect dinosaurs. The reason to actually execute the plan of doing that is, that while testing and figuring out how to do that some kind of bacteria which can spread a deadly virus got resurrected as result. And it infected all the researchers. They were lucky to experiment on an abandoned island but. After inspecting and researching they found out, that that kind of sickness the bacteria triggers can only be cured by a certain dinosaur's DNA. They didn't know which and resurrected every dinosaur that could possibly have the cure in their blood. Every dinosaur which didn't have the cure in it's DNA got released on the island far away from the lab. Some day. These dinosaurs found some buildings or even cars. As the carnivores were following it's scent they found them. Some people could escape from the attacks. But never got cured. Since then they continued their research on another place. Still with no luck finding a cure. They plan to send humans down there too once they think it's time. Maybe the cure could be in plants too, which is why those people could try to get some of the plants. But first they need to survive somehow. It won't be easy because the researchers did a big mistake that will cost their lives soon enough. They didn't remove the ability to reproduce. Or at least not permanently. Soon those things will get this ability back.. The cure could maybe be in an egg's DNA? There is a possibility, that the cure could only be extracted from an egg and that the immunity cells, that contain the cure in the DNA get destroyed while aging. Maybe the cure can only be found in natural born dinosaurs. And not in genetically resurrected ones. This explains why they haven't found it yet.

That's just my theory. Nothing much. Kind of like a backstory. Sorry if I didn't involve others theories. I just made up my own

[livid shard]

Honestly, I don't think they have resurrected the dinosaurs. I feel like they found an island that had already been inhabited by dinosaurs, and somehow they survived and adapted to the climatic changes that have occurred since their appearance 66 million years ago. Some scientist must have find the island because of the cold war but it could be covered up by the government, Closing sea and air routes that cross near Spiro Island

What I agree with is that this scientist, by studying the dinosaurs, was able to find and modify a bacterium found in the dinosaurs, unleashing a disease in part of the people involved with the island.

There is another very curious fact, which could perhaps be connected to the Lore, and it is that in the "Hope" trailer of the "The isle" youtube channel, if you pause at an exact moment in the video, you can appreciate the "Phoenix International" logo that is a reference to another dinosaur game, Primal Carnage Extinction, It could be just an easter egg but it is most likely in the Lore of the Game

[rustic nexus]

While that isn’t a bad theory that would make Æ less of the big genetic engineering company we know them as

[livid shard]

Æ would be more in charge of preserving and keeping the island a secret

we also do not know if the government works with
Æ, Or is it simply a private corporation

[strange shell]

We actually know for a fact that AE created the dinosaurs
They're all genetically engineered, and that's the reason some of them have nothing in common with what they're supposed to be (like beipi, utah or teno)

[rustic nexus]

Tbh i doubt it doesn’t have government funding

[livid shard]

oh

I don't believe so much in that, As difficult as they are to be preserved for so long, AE would continue more than anything, It could be that some dinosaurs had been cloned in the same ecosystem that had already been preserved over time

My theory is contradicted only because it could not be possible that Living beings from 66 million years ago are still alive in the game today

[rustic nexus]

Well tbf

We don’t exactly know the timeline of when the first dinosaurs were cloned

[livid shard]

ik

2025?

uh..

[rustic nexus]

Not sure tmk the isle doesn’t take place in the future

Only current time

[livid shard]

how do you know that???

[rustic nexus]

Most of the technology is pretty old

[livid shard]

Wait

[rustic nexus]

The only futuristic thing is the replicator

[rustic nexus]

Yea

[livid shard]

I just found chances that my theory is wrong

[rustic nexus]

?

[livid shard]

more

[rustic nexus]

More what

[livid shard]

To begin with, the beings and dinosaurs that we see on the island appeared long after others, so it would be like putting an apatosaurus and a tyrannosaurus rex, they appeared at different times

did not coexist in the past

But, it could be that when AE was founded they took dinosaurs that were found on different islands in the world, secretly obviously, to a single island to see their behavior

[rustic nexus]

Oh lol I didn’t think of that

[livid shard]

Ye

I could see where the different types of islands were found and the most common occurrences of those dinosaurs if they survived on individual islands.

[rustic nexus]

Well tbf biologically speaking every single animal would be downsized due to insular dwarfism

[livid shard]

Remember that when they appeared the Mega continent Pangea was separating very slowly

wtf

Islands can be formed by earthquakes

[sonic rampart]

AE is a genetic engineering company that created the dinosaurs as we've gathered from the lore we've seen

[rustic nexus]

Yea

[livid shard]

The conclusion of the data that I have just given would be that, if the dinosaurs and very old species would continue to live, they would be alive on several islands, not only Spiro Island or if Legacy is canon

Spiro Island would not be the only island with dinosaurs.

or the legacy islands (If they are canon again)

[rustic nexus]

Wouldn’t see why the legacy islands aren’t cannon

[livid shard]

Ok they are

Maybe there must be more than 5 islands around the world

[rustic nexus]

Well

Brb ima find something from the doc

[livid shard]

ok..

I'll keep talking so someone else can see the theory

[rustic nexus]

Every single ae site we know of

[livid shard]

Most of the islands would be found in Ecuador or the Tropic of Cancer, More than anything because of the temperature in which the dinosaurs must have lived for a long time, Like the dinosaurs that were cloned to be sent to a single Island, Isla spiro

[livid shard]

You mean like outposts?

Those places, most of those on land must have been offices, and the rest research bases

[rustic nexus]

Yes

Mb

[livid shard]

Maybe dig sites

[rustic nexus]

Wait

[livid shard]

ohhh i found a great image

[rustic nexus]

I might be tripping but that isn’t far off from the red dot to the left of the blue one

[rustic nexus]

? What this for

[livid shard]

Most of the jungles are found in a small part of Asia and South America

By its name it is surely an island in the Caribbean

A perfect place for dinosaurs or cold-blooded beings, with heat, jungle plains and more

maybe near Mexico Gulf or Carribean

[rustic nexus]

Possibly but aren’t dinosaurs mesotherms

Like the intermediate endotherm and exotherm

[livid shard]

they are more like 36°

[livid shard]

ohh yes

[rustic nexus]

Plus there are dinosaurs here (pachyrhino) who lived in cold environments

[livid shard]

oooh

thats right

Do you think there may be a cold island?

[rustic nexus]

Possibly but we do know biodomes exist

[livid shard]

thats right

Another question I have is who invests in AE?

[rustic nexus]

Not sure

[livid shard]

LOL

Caps

[rustic nexus]

Only thing we can assume is governments and private investors

[livid shard]

But what is your form of income from AE?, There is no type of advertising

The investment would be null, unless some real investor would be interested in that

Surely it would be a global investment

[rustic nexus]

Again not really sure in June dondi said he would come out with some lore info

[livid shard]

ok

[rustic nexus]

You could try and time it and ask him these questions

[livid shard]

DM or in Server Chat?

[old stone]

Talk to him if he's in server chat, don't dm him

Also, concerning your theory, I find it unlikely that dinosaurs already existed on the islands when Æ arrived

My personal theory is that they took existing animals and modified them to look like dinosaurs, or just used genetic engineering to create "dinosaurs" out of a mix of DNA that they created as well as DNA from other archosaurs like birds and crocs

[acoustic osprey]

Being a Bio-Engineering company, the viability of dinosaurs living in other environments can be easily changed

[acoustic osprey]

Government, 3rd party, some sort of rich billionaire (John Hammond )

if you want worldbuilding right now? You'll have to wait a month or so

[livid shard]

Surely my theory is wrong, There is no way in which beings can survive since their appearance several million years, But I think I could not rule it out, Even so I believe that I am on the side of genetic cloning of extinct species

[acoustic osprey]

Cloning and mutation

[tranquil imp]

Bigger unkown oasis

Deep Desert

[sonic rampart]

What are you talking about?

[livid shard]

wut

[tranquil imp]

DEEP BIG DESERT

[livid shard]

'

[tranquil imp]

Threats and food would be Snakes, Scorpions and Mainly.....Velociraptor packs they may be small but in packs that's something. Water source would only be small watering holes and the plants that herbs eat would be Ironwood plant, Brittle bush and the Creosote bush and the other new animal that would be playing in the desert is Protoceratops.

[old stone]

Shouldn't this go in general feedback and not lore theories?

[tranquil imp]

Sand storms would blind your Dino and it bury your dino in the sand by Sufucation and you have to dig your way out and if you find a dead body in the sand you would have to dig the corpse out.

[sonic rampart]

Please use #general-feedback to share suggestions. This channel is for sharing ideas about the Isle's lore

[tranquil imp]

and their would be a big rare plane crash in a sand HILL

[old stone]

Bruh

[tranquil imp]

and huge landscapes

[sonic rampart]

As I said, please use #general-feedback to share suggestions. This channel is not for them

[tranquil imp]

And a rare egyptian towers

[old stone]

Lunary just told you to use general feedback

[sonic rampart]

I'm perfectly sane, thanks

:p

[old stone]

I hate the autocorrect on this phone

[old stone]

Also, doubt

[rustic nexus]

Even if he put this in general feedback that would be a terrible idea

Should only be a modded option

[rare rose]

Also a nice theory. There is a really good possibility that they found the island instead of used it. But I am still staying with the disease part and that the gens are recreated humans made to extract dna from plants and eggs

[rare rose]

Then they wouldn't have found it. Why is AE finding more and more dinosaurs on the island? Like boom there is a deino. Or boom there shall be a compy for example. How do they find new ones? And how would we even know such a cold one existed. After the meteor or whatever happened. Only the ones in a hot environment probably survived. On an island. Sealed off from the rest of the world. There is where they could have survived. But the immense heat of that incident would have killed the ones that aren't used to hot enviroments

[acoustic osprey]

(game development)

Best not to compare isle updates to chronological events within Lore

At least. Not till we get lore-updates in-game

[rare rose]

Yeah. But let's put it like that. What if the developers are AE. There could be a reason for the chronological order of events

But your right

I should not compare them

[acoustic osprey]

If they were, I don't see how it'd work in isle's worldbuilding

[rare rose]

Good point..

[acoustic osprey]

Like Sea of Thieves.
Every update is another "time passed" aka. Addition to lore

That's only due to the game's core and foundations being done

I can see, in the. Future, updates = lore events

But not yet

[rare rose]

That is correct. I see where your going

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

[vivid ibex]

i think the lore is sorta like jurassic park

like these peeps wanted to make a dinosaur park but it failed

[sturdy trout]

Not a Park, they were testing to make the perfect life forms, hence the hyperendocrines and stuff

[sinful shale]

Well, lore wise, it's a little harder than that because there are far too many dangerous, advanced things to really just "rebuild" things. It's just, complicated. Especially if you put cannibals and tribals into the mix.

Tribals, iirc, are past humans turned humanoid creatures of The Isle. Theories state that they're likely a product of the Replicator taking humans into a constant life and death cycle. They worship the Replicator but have no real sense of humanity.

[acoustic osprey]

They're from AE
Humans turned monsters
They then went crazy and started to worship The Replicator

Alongside Echidna took them in as children

[livid shard]

hi

[sharp knoll]

#isle-discussion

[livid shard]

my theory is based on the perfect state in which dinosaurs are found, at present it would be very difficult to find DNA samples to reconstruct the structure of a being from millions of years ago, just as my theory could only be a miracle that stay alive or find a way to clone them.

Even so, I am not on the side of any theory, I will help as I can in the lore of this game

[sharp knoll]

Replicator creates clones

[livid shard]

maybe the development of the lore could start near the cold war, while the United States was trying to overcome the USSR, some very crazy scientist wanted to reach another level in cloning technology, who knows where he got the idea of cloning various dinosaurs, so with the necessary money and equipment they began to create laboratories and theorize how they could be brought back to life, thus introducing the AE Foundation That phase could have lasted almost 30 or 50 years in development, to the point that the supervision of the project could change by at least 2 or 3 people, This until taking us to 2015 where the current supervisor of the mission would request some private territories, Taking us to the islands of the Legacy version, These islands having some outposts and surveillance, in that same year some of the facilities on those islands would not last almost at all, being abandoned or simply destroyed by the same assets of the island

If anyone finds a continuity error or something they want to mention, please correct me :)

Thats not the end

[sharp knoll]

Well from what we know is legacy lore it can be canon

[sinful shale]

Eh, I was close enough.

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[sturdy trout]

So the replicator ( giant overlord sentient so thing that's went rogue and started mass producing dinosaurs and creatures ) made tribals which aren't even biological humans they're these really messed up things that I'll send an image for. Whenever they die their soul gets put back into the replicator to live another life then die again, over and over and over until they are mindless, savage murderous slaughter machines with no sense of morality or emotion

[acoustic osprey]

didn't make tribals

Gen 1 (Tribals) were created by AE some many years ago.
Gen 1 went insane and chaotic -> They started following The Replicator and Echidna took them down as children.
Some time later AE make Gen 2 (Humans) -> They are, like Gen 1, all genetically created
(However, we're not sure if it's via cloning or genetic addition)

[sturdy trout]

Oh did it not?

I'm sorry great lightclaw master

Also here they are Mr @icy onyx

These freaks

[acoustic osprey]

Well, if we're going off the most relevant piece of lore.
They're not

[sturdy trout]

Cool

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, (this is off #transmissions)

however, talks in the past going on about "Why Gen 1 is called gen 1 and Gen 2 is called gen 2"
also led to believes that they're both connected

rather than.
Tribals are called Gen 1 because they are

#isle-lore-theories message
Basically here

[sturdy trout]

So how did AE "make" the tribals without the replicator?

[acoustic osprey]

They are a bio-engineering company.
That's it. Really.

[sturdy trout]

So what's the replicator for?

[acoustic osprey]

After the fifteenth cycle their stories compiled ...

The first generation turned to worship. Results ...

Gen 1 Prim incubation cleared at signal reach of 1,000 ...

etc etc

[sturdy trout]

Just for clarification every cycle being one of the tribals lives?

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know much. Let's be honest.

But we know Tribals turned to worship The Replicator

[acoustic osprey]

I presume "cycle" is just batch

[sturdy trout]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

or round

Presumably Tribals had multiple iterations. If not then it means "every batch from the first ones to last ones"

[sturdy trout]

I heard somewhere that dead tribals minds get put into the new batch's bodys' making them more insane with every 'cycle'

[acoustic osprey]

Probably not.

Sounds like speculation.

[sturdy trout]

I swear I heard that here

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly, it's a bit excessive too

[sturdy trout]

From somebody important

[acoustic osprey]

You've signed up (or however you were turned into Tribal) and now you look like a giant, ugly humanoid monster- why wouldn't you go crazy

[sturdy trout]

Don't the dino's have the minds of criminals in them?

[acoustic osprey]

No

[sturdy trout]

Really?

[acoustic osprey]

That's an old legacy one.

[sturdy trout]

I swear I heard that from somebody important

[sturdy trout]

Oh I see

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[sturdy trout]

Evrima and legacy lore intertwining and contradicting each other is confusing ngl 😂

[acoustic osprey]

It's best to ignore everything from Legacy till it's reconfirmed from Dondi and/or Evrima

[sturdy trout]

Also do you think all the updates are in canonic order or are they not related to lore? I assume the latter

[acoustic osprey]

No

I don't presume they're in any canonical order YET.

[sturdy trout]

Also I know the story between primal carnage and the isle with PI and AE and AE stealing PI's genetic code for the magna and stuff but Is that even relevant? Like is that actual lore?

[nocturne cosmos]

Yessssss

[acoustic osprey]

Legacy lore.
Phoenix is in Evrima

[sturdy trout]

K

[acoustic osprey]

Let me rephrase

Phoenix has been teased during Evrima (mainly early Evrima)

[sturdy trout]

Also I'm so sorry lightclaw I'm practically interviewing you 😂 sorry for keeping you

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/screaming-scream-sam-neill-madness-in-the-mouth-of-madness-gif-18813926

[nocturne cosmos]

Don’t be sorry lightclaw lives here

[acoustic osprey]

That's alright.

[nocturne cosmos]

The lore tbh is funky af rn

[acoustic osprey]

yes

But don't worry. I'm still waiting till June

[nocturne cosmos]

It’s kinda all over the place

Can’t wait for it to restart

[acoustic osprey]

yes

It's also not bad to rewatch old videos on Isle's Legacy lore; I'm predicting Dondi will be grabbing old stuff from >2018 and rehashing it

But for the time being. Lore is just tumbleweed

And maybe they'll bring some old member-easter egg characters back

[sharp knoll]

Bring Dr. Vega

[acoustic osprey]

Khorne

Or make a new character/s

Dr. Light

Not a reference to a popular islecord user and Isle YouTuber who has made multiple hits, such as Frog, Frogge and Tutel.

[nocturne cosmos]

Tbh having a call back to the people who used to sit in the vcs and talk over the lore and the people who helped compile it all would be cool

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[nocturne cosmos]

I used to sit in those vcs just with a bunch of strangers discussing why strains existed

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[nocturne cosmos]

Or when they used to come into vc and play some morse code that shit went silent so fast

[acoustic osprey]

[old stone]

Not that khorne

[rustic nexus]

Dr lightclaw of the music department

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[glad anvil]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

It'd be quite interesting to see that (anything related to islecorder easter eggs)

but it'll probably just show CCs

[frozen totem]

Sooooooooooooooooo.... isle lore time

anyone?

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[frozen totem]

what r these do we think?

neuroplastic tribals?

[acoustic osprey]

The Eyeless

[frozen totem]

ye

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[frozen totem]

oh

[icy onyx]

Did we get new eveima lore? I heard something about dondi dropping some lore idk when this was tho

[frozen totem]

in june we will

[acoustic osprey]

Hopefully in June

[icy onyx]

The homies

[cyan warren]

that's exactly what i had in my mind

[frozen totem]

ok, so we know AE isn't evil and they just want a better human(or something like that). But why did they make dinosaurs?

just for testing sake?

Except then why not use modern animals?

[vapid oak]

Well i feel like thats the ultimate way to perfect your manipulation of genetics
By bringing back once completely wiped out animals that have little to none remaining DNA for us to start with
Then maybe ya know...they have dinos now...they couldve played with that

[frozen totem]

and then the replicator just made more for some reason

[icy onyx]

Is there lore on the replicator being sentient? Or is it simply doing its purpose of replicating and the tribals decided to worship it?

[nocturne cosmos]

I feel like their pretty evil

Or at least not good people

[vapid oak]

Yeah
A company like them would atleast consider the possibilities of weaponizing genetically modified humans
Or Dinos for that matter

[frozen totem]

What if its in defence?

Also dondi I himself literally said they werent evil so ur theory's kinda out the window

[oblique surge]

I imagine they made it an AI so that it’d do its job better but things got out of control and it decided that its job was more important than everything else
Think how GLaDOS puts science and testing above literally everything else

[vapid oak]

Hey
The usa was depicted as good in the Cold war
But even they made nukes just in case a war happened
What if these nukes were weaponized dinos ready for war
Like making super weapons isnt seen as bad
If you use them then they are
AE clearly havent used them for war...yet

[icy onyx]

Yeah that was my theory for it

Altho iteould have been funny if it was just a regular machine but because it replicated entities the tribals thought it was a God and just worshiped it

[icy onyx]

nothing is inherently "evil" anyway

[vapid oak]

Reminds me alot of the Forest's lore
A primitive society would see a advanced cloning machine as a God

[nocturne cosmos]

Unless the lore has completely been rewritten they evil af

Though it most likely has which means he have absolutely nothing to go off

Or at least not very good people

[frozen totem]

just cus legacy isnt for sure cannon doesn't mean all lore is rewritten

[old stone]

Dondi stated that they weren't bad guys

This implies to me that Æ aren't the bad guys of this story

[nocturne cosmos]

They defo bad tho if lore still stands from legacy

Like didn’t they have human trials and also stealing shit from other companies

I’m just going on off legacy tho which most likely will get changed soo

[icy onyx]

Maybe he says they aren’t evil but they are by default bc they’re still the equivalent of nestle

[livid shard]

perhaps it could be that AE was part of a company dedicated to medical treatments

Why else would a genetics corporation want to clone ancient reptiles and dinosaurs? Obviously it would not be for an amusement park or weapons for the government

Isnt just for money

other than that there would be no way for them to have credits to invest in their projects, unless

[rare rose]

i am staying with my theory

[livid shard]

Me too

[rare rose]

the medical treatments is actually real similar to mine lol

[livid shard]

One of the big businesses in the world is medicine, which earns billions of dollars a year, enough to have 3 private islands with more than 15 species of dinosaurs together

[icy onyx]

But what if they got an academic sponsor so everything is basically costless. The purpose? To goof around and stroke the egos of the research team
Or maybe they want to make there own life forms to test makeup products and medicine on, so no one can legally say they’re not allowed to
Maybe they want to make unpaid workers to attend Jurassic world themed birthday parties
(Joking)

[livid shard]

and that without counting the equipment that the government grants

xD

maybe, I repeat just maybe they wanted to find a cure for something new, maybe a disease?

[livid shard]

Medicine.

[frozen totem]

U cant see evidence of something and then deny it

[acoustic osprey]

"Create the perfect man"

[livid shard]

What do you mean??

It could be that they were desperate for something, and they wanted treatment as soon as possible.

Perhaps the meaning of "Apollo" from Æ refers to the god Apollo, who was a god who represented health, medicine, beauty and archery, among others.

What I am sure of and what is closest to what I know of the lore of the game, is that Æ is related to medicine, a pharmacist with incredible genetic advances and technology for treatments

[acoustic osprey]

[noble harbor]

Has anyone ever used admin powers to look inside the NW Estuary?

[sharp knoll]

Creating the perfect human means a human with more intelligence and accurate to us from what they actually failed with Gen 1

[acoustic osprey]

And seemed to have succeeded with Gen 2

[sharp knoll]

Æ wanted to be evolved

[acoustic osprey]

if Gen 2 is deemed successful

[sharp knoll]

they wanted to find the truth of evolution

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[sharp knoll]

I guess so

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[willow pebble]

Anyone know the lore behind hypo's?

[rustic nexus]

iirc the hyperendorcine strain was created by doctor vega and had issues so they coined it to fix said issues, however there still are problems with the strain like fast metabolism drain

[willow pebble]

Right, and this got injected to the dinosaurs?

[rustic nexus]

And humans

[acoustic osprey]

Legacy

[rustic nexus]

Yeah take everything I said with a grain of salt all we really know is that strains were injected into dinosaurs the origin behind them could completely change

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[rustic nexus]

I wonder sometimes if the echidna can access the replicator

[sharp knoll]

Rodrigo Vega was a devoloper

[vague root]

Old isle concept artist, though that fact shouldn't do anything with the lore

[strange shell]

Ben

[old stone]

That's a tough one to answer, because we don't really know all that much about the lore or most context

So something that seems crazy could turn out to be a lot more normal in the context of the universe

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[stiff harness]

Theory: Humans make dinosaurs because it's cool. Everybody dies. Island ruled by dinosaurs now. The end

Yeah? Anyone?

[sonic rampart]

Keep this channel serious

[stiff harness]

okay fine

[slate pewter]

Until human arrive

Wait where the Inhabitants fit into this theory?

They are also engineered on purpose?

Not inhabited the Isle way before AE?

[outer verge]

Based on what we know they were originally made by AE

[frozen totem]

Tribals r failed experiments to make "the perfect human"

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much

[glad atlas]

does the playback recordings mean anything?

and what is "Site I-04" ?

[slate pewter]

A trail camera

[untold leaf]

nothing , it's just the cameras

[slate pewter]

So wats about this soul repture thing?

I'm all ears

[proper steppe]

Replicator makes profiles, profiles control the dinosaurs, you as a player are one of many profiles, the replicator has ways of bringing you back from the dead in other, more alien, forms

tldr: the replicator forces you to respawn against your will

[slate pewter]

onderstand

[frozen totem]

is that true? doesnt seem true from what ive heard

oh great @acoustic osprey can u tell me if this mans words are true

[strange shell]

He's gonna tell you that it isn't true but he doesn't know more than any of us here actually
For all we know everything in the old lore might be scrapped
And even that, it was very obscure to begin with so nothing is certain
Strains are most likely gonna stay since hyper rex got a redesign

[acoustic osprey]

It's old lore back when in the old discord.
Where every player technically Registered in-game as another "mind"

[frozen totem]

Oh like the weird human brain in dino theory

[acoustic osprey]

That's basically all connected and theorised with old lore

[frozen totem]

ik

[acoustic osprey]

We'll have to wait till June to see how Dondi wants to orientate player interaction (as, that old way was one) into lore- if he wants that still.
Alongside, waiting to see more about The Replicator- more than just confirmation on an artwork or that Tribals idolise it

[icy onyx]

Imagine if the dinosaurs got on mainland areas

[old stone]

I don't really think it'd be that big of a problem, honestly

[frozen totem]

Uh... Tribals, small dinos. Those would be dangerous and not easily eliminated die to size

[old stone]

I don't see tribals hiding all that well, and the small dinos that are small enough to make a difference would either die off quickly due to everything eating their eggs, or at worst just be considered another invasive species

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/968595189323165797/976819404409020446/TheIsleClient-Win64-Shipping_4AS6J8RnEm.jpg
Now I'm interested

It's probably not the finalised company name.
Unless it's just a store asset

[proper steppe]

I still don't buy into the idea that all of the lore is now forfeit just because the devs haven't mentioned it. The only reason they haven't mentioned it is because evrima is so ridiculously early in development that to start adding lore now would be fucking dumb. That doesn't mean they've abandoned all of the plans they've made up until this point.

[acoustic osprey]

Issue with this statement

That doesn't mean they've abandoned all of the plans they've made up until this point

You're presuming that "ALL" things from legacy's lore is gone in the wind- never to be seen again by the community, which isn't correct.
We still know barely anything about Evrima- we're still going off #transmissions which contain the best bits of Evrima's lore we can get currently... which says a lot

Things from Legacy's canon will probably be implemented back into The Isle's lore and other bits? Gone.

It all depends on how Dondi wants to narrate his story

[proper steppe]

It is just as likely, if not more so, that everything from the legacy lore still applies and simply hasn't been high priority

[acoustic osprey]

Well yes and no.
It still all depends.

Personally my stand point of it all, it's a lot better to restart the narrative with a similar basis.
It's already messed up within Legacy and the old discord

My standpoint coming from a person who writes his own stories professionally and off-camera.
It's messed up. Not that it's bad.

Evrima/Isle's "new" lore doesn't have to be a true new story.
Just more of a refresh. Like on a page on google. But with a few small edits

[proper steppe]

Assuming evrima was a restart of the lore is just like saying tissoplastic isn't going to be in the game because dondi didn't type it, like in the one catbug animation. The fact is that it's much harder to create a creature from scratch than it is to create a depiction of a species that already did exist. Add on to this that we've had nothing to suggest anything has been dropped from the old lore, and it really become unlikely that everythings been restarted.

To be more accurate as well, legacy never really had a story being told yet. We were drip-fed an exposition, not a story.

[acoustic osprey]

This is Dondi we're talking about.
The real perfectionist himself

[acoustic osprey]

There was a build-up. Yes.
Then nothing. Evrima said hello.

But that's mainly due to how poor Legacy was in telling it's story anyways

[proper steppe]

Hasn't Dondi repeatedly, whenever asked about shit that hasn't been talked about in a while, confirmed that the plans haven't changed? I mean, I don't want to point to the catbug animation again, but that seems pretty similar, if smaller in scope.

[acoustic osprey]

There is nothing to allude that Evrima's (The Isle) new lore will be new or will be the same.

We can just presume it'll be a mixture of both.
Balance mixture? Maybe, maybe not

[acoustic osprey]

I'd say around June you'll see condensed and canonized lore. You'll know very quickly what old stuff was binned. No guess-work needed and no hints. We're just going to start the ride.

We do know stuff will be gone.
How much? What's binned? Etc

Nothing yet till that supposed "June" drop

Etas

[proper steppe]

I would say that it is not equally split between how much lore is kept and how much is binned, though? Any given plot point is atleast somewhat more likely to have been kept than to have been lost.

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't say it's equally binned.
We never knew everything from Legacy anyways

[proper steppe]

The issue is that people are now calling into question basic lore points or assuming the destruction of some truly ancient concepts of Dondi

[acoustic osprey]

I'd say the main plot line is the same.
Some contents within, characters and etc might've been removed or added, or even touched up on

[proper steppe]

Like, some people in here are going to genuinely think that the matriarch, a concept older than almost of the roster and consistent throughout all of legacy's development, must be gone because it isn't being spoke on.

[acoustic osprey]

We still lack the basis of the story. Besides the obvious.
Dinosaur on island.
Tribals.
Mercs (Not really mercs, but mercs)

[acoustic osprey]

Best to think, in my opinion, about old things in Legacy... that we can theorize about getingt that stuff but we probably wont

it still is a theory channel.
Theories can be quite erratic

[proper steppe]

I could agree with branching comments being gone, like islandwalkers or alphonse or what have you, but to claim that something that has been so consistent for long like the matriarch is gone seems silly to me

[acoustic osprey]

Islecord

[rare rose]

Why is your name german?

Just asking cuz I'm curious

[frozen totem]

Joke I think cus it was just light claw before, but im not them so idk

[acoustic osprey]

Just funny, that's all. I tend to change it weirdly

[rare rose]

ahh okay

[old stone]

Who ping?

[icy onyx]

so whats the lore on strains? can anyone explain....

[old stone]

Uh

[icy onyx]

why did the corporations in the game make em and all that

[old stone]

I think all we know is that they're creatures that have some sort of modification or other genetic anomaly that changes their physiology

[acoustic osprey]

AE stealing magna rex from Phoenix Corp

Nothing quite "Confirmed back in" yet

[old stone]

Oh, I was about to ping you

[icy onyx]

oh wait what are the companies actually

ive never heard of phoenix corp

[old stone]

Phoenix corp is from primal carnage, and may or may not still be canon in the isle

[icy onyx]

ive heard the games where connected, never knew how much tho, has dondi given any new lore?

[old stone]

Not yet, though apparently lore is coming in June

[icy onyx]

im pretty hype about that, cant wait to be on the same page about this games lore, i love lore but i didn't get into it because i heard legacy lore stoped being cannon and evrima didn't really have much lore

[acoustic osprey]

PC as PC

[tranquil imp]

Alien Crash site

[frozen totem]

[sleek temple]

All lore doesn’t matter until new lore rewrite 😡😢🥴⁉️

[prisma bronze]

Waiting for the isle new testament

[acoustic osprey]

Something something matriarch, something something

[old stone]

Wasn't the big skeleton a young island walker?

[frozen totem]

ye but i think dondi might have said that they werent cannon anymore (dont quote)

[long onyx]

that gigantic thing, young?!?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes