#isle-lore-theories
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aye
however, to note, what i posted is not from kadin as well
yes yes
some thoughts on the contrast of the Main Menu UI versus Neural UI
I'll be honest, it is a bit weird — that is, as cool as it is, why does it need to be a seperate UI style?
Preferably you'd want to have one consistent theme / style
however, i bring this up here in isle lore theories channel for a reason
of course, this is not really bound to any sort of theory,
But I suppose that the decision to have two contrasting styles is to enforce the idea of being in and out of EIP status
IF it is suppose to reflect lore
of course, we have no idea on how EIPs work
and we actually had an EIP reference in the old 'in-game UI" for the character menu
that being this
"PROFILE LOADED"
i.e. to give the sense / to prompt that you have now been put into the game
Look at the stupid example I made in lorecord Isaac
your eyes the camera, ludonarrative-wise
Ironman suit: the body, aka the dinosaur.
YOU are inside this body, not physically, but you see through the eyes of that body.
The neural UI gives off exactly those kind of vibes, they look like pop-ups, specifically the hints.
And in this case Iron Man’s little whatever in the mask that shows up would be the neural UI.
from Cerato, example
NO
i am not saying, not even in lorecord, Cerato that it is bad
Why did you have to share the dumb example here 😭
in lorecord, specifically, i was mentioning that we have no design-aspects that really communicate this idea
even a small mention, like this, would be nice to have
Oh yeah I agree because the UI is nowhere near its potential, but apparently “almost finished”
sadly, THAT LORE PART was basically the only thing actually removed from the character screen lol
which is painfully ironic when I am trying to communicate on behalf of why I would suppose they have done this design choice of two seperate UI styles
of course, maybe we'll get some sort of reference
like through the UI secrets or the last 'screens' to be added that don mentioned in the dblog
Maybe
thanks cerato
I feel like the preferred food section doesnt make much sense, since the map isnt officially in the game
oh you mean like how it abbreviates the locations?
yeah, the bioms would make more sense to me
to be fair, they're just abbreviations of the biomes
but i could imagine you just being able to hover over and it tells you
or just not giving the location at all
seeing as migrations invalidate needing to know
drooling
imagine having a singular consistent ui style 
🙁
this is my thoughts on that though
(if you didn't read it already, because everyone reads what i write ALWAYS!)
also wth is this hidden ui lore i keep hearing about
oh buddy....
apparently there may be (or is) some secret UI easter eggs

this info being from the recent dblog
insert the punchpacket comment on this 😔
like i understand
BUT MY it does hurt
the fact none of the new ui stuff makes like
old computer sounds
yeah that that hurts. yeah.
lore eventually brother trust
also when did they get rid of the computer startup sound the game use to play when opening i swear it use to be a thing
i believe when ui overhaul came out
we lack a boot up
HOPEFULLY its one of the missing screens that'll come out soon
its so iconic it has to come back
mmm
So what kind of ink cartridges does the QR code go to?
We talking like RICOH? Konica?
literally a QR code taking you to a website talking about if QR codes are good or bad
Sad day.
Hi Lightclaw
hi daviid
every single time i think you're raptor david

pluh

😔
havent been on this channel in a while some1 wanna explain why the gen1s are disfigured , are they failed clones or smth
We don’t know if they were a failed or a successful project, but we know they became weapons for AE. As a deterrent against other companies.
The isle
ahh ty
so speculation like usual lol
well, the physical part, definitely
was their physicality on purpose?
sadly, we only have Dondi quotes to go off — so i wish we had actual lore documents or videos inferring or directly referencing them
however, we know Don said they begun as to an over engineered answer to the question of “What if something hits AE?”
could over-engineered mean they knew what they physically wanted with Gen1s ... therefore they physically were supposed to be 'a lot monsterous'
Im guessing the latter
why cant we not permit lab grown meats for endangered animals, like let me eat a hippo or an elephant
that‘d be so cool, it‘d be like eating weird gmo‘s or finding rare exotic fruits in a shop
like i ate a pink apple from france today
thanks
youre welcome
<@&933486433342222376> free money
damn
If we as people want large intimidating looking guard dogs, why would the genetic engineering company not want their flesh abominations to also look scary
I think the intimidation factor is a biproduct of the fact you're breeding a dog to maul trespassers, a dinosaur is a dinosaur, I think the majority of people would be afraid of a dryosaurus on encounter
well, i don't think Don said they're made for intimidation purely to be fair
but i can see it being in-mind in-lore
Unless they're american
❌
i mean, those who live in rurally and go out in bear country with no gun, that takes some nerve
I didn't find the one with elephants
But there were like 10% of americans who thought they could own an elephant in a fight
i love the realism
@acoustic osprey the cameras are recording....
yea and
bins have bins inside the bins which have bins inside
i know 😔
Im surprised more people are confident against a chimp (who can do some very serious damage) rather than cobra and croc (who are relatively easy to disarm)
lol
I guess that's because one single bite from either a cobra and a croc can kill you
These are the same people who think they can kill stego as a carno
I wish there was a way to find hidden recorded videos in your The Isle folder
the same technically for humans (or a chimp) with one punch...
But americans don't know that
i wish we had a hidden secret live isle camera, something like what people playground had
although People Playground had a whole 'lore hunt' to get to there
realistically, i'd love for Isle to have something similar
HARD to do (of course)
but would be amazing, fun, cool and (hopefully) the end goal resulting in answers being answered
oh
Man I hope Gen 2 get some extensive customization.
I'd love if just about every item had some sort of functional use. Even if it's small.
Like hey, a hat! Some small heat resistance now!
Or a T-Shirt! Lil bit warmer now!
A fannypack! I can hold 3 more small items now!
etc.
Got my eyes dilated and I can’t see well but looooooore
I personally want all of that to be salvagable stuff
Like found in random containers n' such?
Mjm
Let drippy well matched armor show how long they’ve been alive to collect all that
i think the game will end with a meteor
with 2
i like stuff like that too but when its too excessive like dayz it starts to annoy me
for example i wouldn't want to see a human running around dressed like an absolute clown because those clothes have better stats than the other stuff that actually looks practical
I know exactly what ya mean yeah. Ideally things you'd actually want for good stats (like protection or whatever) would visually make sense. Not stuff like "kevlar vest - 20% armor vs puffy jacket combined with baseball cap and cargo shorts = 50% armor"
nononono
Too many times have I seen cool immersive aesthetics be ruined because of lame customization.
Insert Spider-Teno
When Gen 2s are in you won’t catch me anywhere near plains biomes
I know we're basically only getting head swaps
But actual in game customisation like that would be best
Alacanlam
I had meant more so like stuff you find in-game while trying not to die 
I THINK Kissen mentioned that there's gonna be a lot of stuff to find, but not sure.
Headswaps are...eh.
Wish we could color hair and eyes separately, but 🤷
Yeah
I wish it could be a bit more then what we know for physical customisation
-# GIVE ME FEMALE GEN 2 MODEL
true
i hope they don't stick to doing Males first, then females later
which was mentioned a few years back
well, technically that is happening right now because only males are in... but like, in terms of for their more 'full release'
I dont think they have the ability to reproduce
i doubt we'd get a full release for gen2s, looking at UI overhaul
thanks
of course
Therefore I dont think there is a male or female,
It's literally just an IT
i'd say they'd all be sterile
presumably by design or by an exterior force? who knows!
oh males were confirmed to have their 'parts'
(of course, i will refrain from talking about this because of the nature of the topic and discord)
I still think Gen 2 are made commercially as the ideal body. If this is the case, I doubt they'd be infertile
potentially
but is it like cars
where they have random paint stickers over their full body
is the fertile part necessary for testing?
I suppose it comes down to many factors
Probably easier in not worrying about it (in-lore, AE sterlising)
can baryonx grab raptor on buck animation?
yeah idk man if the lore says so
i presume, if all are EIPed, that they would know 'this is a job so we're here to do job things'
wrong channel xD
yeah
just maybe
i wonder if we'll know or if there may be a mention on a lore doc
Can anyone explain what these sounds are? The second one is like something heavy walking above on metal? or something idk
Second one is a gate of some sorts creaking open
First one is an old one that's been around for awhile, no clue on what it is. Some weird creature
yeah the first one sounds like the trike sound from Dino Squad (Tv show)
Yea but all gates are closed, and the sound from a creature is coming from the perimeter
pretty sure it is generic copyright free dino sound
(its just random ambience playing of it. Its not being played from anything, sadly)
REALLY jumpscares you haha
nah the creature can be heard all around the mapp
i've had it make me jump off my seat a few times
i mean, im kinda involved with the isle lore and wanted to record wierd sounds from the perimeter
And the gate is just a random ambience that plays around human structures. Happens at every base
sad tbh
yeah
yeah
remember that weird trumpet sound cerato
from one of the Don streams
actually might be from before you were here
is there an actually sound which is lore involved in the evrima version? Ik that the eyeless is in legacy aswell as meny other
however, it was apparently location specific
nope
the one where "Ope nope we are not going that way blah blah"
yea
yeah
Hopefully everything is arranged and such. Had to render it in pieces and one tried to escape...the time adds up, so everything should be there, but the order......hopefully it's okay.
Amarok's didn't really have anything of note, but I might scrounge something up for it. The other Dondi stream started as I was working on this one laugh. Visual...
nope
godzilla
@ruby tartan
quite literally
I wonder what it was supposed to be
time, species, location... 😔 where are you
i know Don said that that was low priority
but like!! AHHH
interesing
Looks like northern Ridge, close to the ocean, GODZILLAAAA/jk
oh well northern ridge is gone now thanks!!
it would be a pain to find in-game, stuff like that
but like
have it be like lore hunt
hints, references to lore to obtain
like I WISH we had something if you paleo call at the INTRUDER location
ohh come on, the legacy version had such a good lore
F12
I think it did a better job at world building yeah.. especially with sound design..
i loved the camera sounds in legacy
well, i think Don just wanted to give more
same issue with current Evrima though
a lot of questions
minimal answers
wide ocean
small puddle... 😔
MANY questions left unanswered from Legacy
likely never to be seen again
yeah but..
I love legacy's vibe 😔
camera or camara
camera
yea i agree but still, lore is kinda fun in those games
camera
Gamera 
yeah I agree
especialy when we have abandoned human structures
i love the movment animations in legacy especially for the omni one
A lot of the outposts are getting reworked right now on Hordetest,
Hopefully they bring the damn glance sheets in
PLEASE DO NOT LOCK THEM TO GUTS HUBS DONDI, I BEG YOU!!
i visited few outposts and its that evrything is copy paste rn
like if anything it makes more sense for the outposts to have glance sheets since they're probably the ones more prone to dinosaur interaction..
this is true though
they're really only unique for their placement
I12 is a bit different though with its big tanks
but K15 and C14/D14 are identical
besides layout
actually i think C14 does not have a 'tiny bunker model'
H6...
k15 has a cool bridge though
whats that!
had a pretty unique design I think..
outposts and the GUTS entrances for me
GUTS entrances for administration-esque-style documents
OH DTAs AS WELL
The literal things holding the dinosaurs should know what the dinosaurs behave like, usually
yeah, jace did place all the outposts (besides one) in unique areas
yeah pretty much
ive been to swamp tunnel, and saw working cameras thoo, i think the concept of "they're still watching" is cool
where did Jace go
K15 has a nice view
I12 nice in the middle next to highlands
H6 under big rock
C14 near the coast
he is still working on stuff, he was referenced recently
exactly
but who...
are there any documents lore specific or just copy paste generic ones?
ohhh good.. what is he working on-?
AE ofc
pretty sure just gateway stuff
or is it it... the replicator...
Nothing in game
Only lore papers through discord or videos
like the windows in Portal
just without seeing anything
😔
looks like big air vents thb in my opinion
we did get a video from in-game though
but served us nothing
Taurus maybe
they're windows, too dark in the picture to see the window reflection
forgot the name srry
tartaurs !
"in-game"
TARTARUS
technically yes
sorry no autocorrect
probably not tartarus though
but makes me wonder
is Tartarus still ongoing when the game is going?
define ongoing
yea that one, i also love the concept that the TARTARUS is the actuall gateway map
in any form still alive as a functioning body / facility wherever it may be
Or
A facility under the map
ik ik but still, to me it still will be air vents
through Tartarus
you must open the Gateway
Most likely not functioning, abondoned I'd guess
lol
yea but it was mentioned in one video aint it?
AugustSUS
lol
im talking about one were theres an camera set up for dibblo nesting site
ah
It wasn't actually mentioned in that video.
There was a frame where it was only that word on the screen tho
hmmmm
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Released on: 2012-08-21
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yay
and dibble!
only that word was readable*
redible
In my opinion thats sound more like something appearing, something that should not be seen
sadly the evrima lore rn is a bit shallow, i hope they add a little bit more with new update
Thanks. That’s mine now
I wonder if gen 1 will have a 1 or 3 call that can be interpreted as an alarm, and are the more solitary or group hunters
Monkey sounds
no worries
<@&933486433342222376>
i was supposed to reply to myself the morning after
but this
this was a whole shabang
a whole lore hunt, one could say
the dev of PP loves making hidden stuffs all around the game
But it was very neat having a whole non-linear-ish process for something like this
i'll be honest though, some people don't even think the 'live stream' was/is the end goal
Because it acts weirdly at times (certain times or rng? no idea)
however, the reward wasn't all that rewarding
besides being very creepy - that being, that game doesn't really have lore, so it was the dev doing what he does best
quite so
i will always wish and hope Isle will/could get anything similar but in its own way and style
i have faith and believe that Dondi could definitely make something akin/alike
of course, i could only imagine the amount of time and effort to make one would be pain
patch might be coming today, hopefully!
What are we talking about?
oh there was (is, but nothing really new a lot for quite some time) a video game on steam called People Playground
the dev basically made a whole 'lore hunt' (like the TCAM one but 'bigger' — technically more complex and longer to actually decipher)
it was a whole thing
I think biggest difference is that People Playground has no lore besides creepy arg-esque vibes all round
so they couldn't really base it upon anything — quite literally just finding random little things then trying to glue them together
basically this graph^
someone made a whole sort of board showing the progression/routes for this community 'lore hunt'
it sort of reminds me of the funny little easter eggs in Battlefield 5
although, BF5s easter eggs were very weird and wacky. From what i recall, purely all being based on pressing seemingly random things
Thanks
hey guys lois griffin from family guy here, what exactly is entombing
Oh
Stop catfishing us peetah
Did yall read what the deceased screen says yet?
Mhm
yup..
hope you come back and dont go into the footsteps of the ones before you.. if you're reading this..

Have we checked the Atrium on HT?
No visible changes
Couldn't check if the waterfall area is still there I died of hunger but I guess it is
didn't even know you could get into it, tbh.
You can literally live there as a herbivore
Well, without any diets, but still
There is a small path of grass right near the water zone on which you can graze

Wheres the lore
I ated it, sorry.
I wonder if there’s a difference in quality to AE between EIPs that are cooperative and those that are resentful
oOoOoOoh yes!!!
Friends, this Rex that we grew up with Alloya is growing in 12 hours. If I step on a single Allo, you die 100%. It's ridiculous.
helloo ^w^ im cooking up a lore theory and was just double checking/confirming that the only thing we have so fair is that humans exist and have built structures on this island, and that there's technically a horror element to the game?
i want to see if there's anything i should be considering whilst cooking :3 tyy
Check the google doc in the pinned messages here
wonderful ty ty
okay so im high and turns out the theory i was cooking up was just the lore i had heard of before and then forgot about whoops lol but!! this is very cool and can't wait for the devs to develop and implement the gen 1 humans and mutant dinos (the strains) into the game! maybe as boss monster type AI enemies in certain locations
Strains and gen 1 will be playable to a certain extent
oh cool, love that! could be a fun post death 'do you want to mutate?' prompt for the players
So I have a theory the dodo is gonna be the new apex predator

just like the troo
glass cannon
The weird "Scar" looking things are gone,
Oh well
(The first image is the old screenshot WITH the 'scars')
(hes just covering it up with makeup guys dw)
lol
F5... maybe.. we'll never know truly.. 😔
jump
no
it was a bug, similar to the dust effect galli used to have
certain areas of rexes body were brighter than they were supposed to be for some reason
it wasnt a lore thing
Yay
dear god they greenified it
lol
I wonder if Omniraptor in the lore is either:
A) A actual raptor in the universe
B) A highly engineered and modyfied raptor they made and named
What would/does Omniraptor mean?
Omni = all or every
So basically
All/every-raptor
Option B
remember when the audio codex came out and some of the songs were labeled like "The omnisaur hunts" or the "Omnisaur grows"
I mentioned here that maybe thats what the dinos are called in universe
that just reminded me of that
Could be
I figured the name omnisaur was used so that the “listener” could interpret any dinosaur they want into that soundtrack’s narrative
thus, Omni (every) saur (lizard)
Lore, people... lore
yes
There is no lore
Yus
I honestly love the new outpost reworks
They are unfinished but I think they're gonna look great.
Someones gotta call a landscaper for this
Return to fish
see
Had a weird idea for the ui. Its weird bear with me🐻
@gaunt dawn what did you do bear (this is a joke)
since rn in the hordetest theres not really a boot up screen, imagine a bootup cutscene of a first person view of someone booting up an old computer in a dark and abandoned area after putting some drive in it, then when its up (in about like 6 seconds) the game switches to the menu we have in hordetest. Doing certain things in the menu would cause a quick cutscene of switching back to the persons pov and moving to a diff monitor or quickly putting a diff drive in. Maybe this would be going into the skin creator or clicking the ever elusive extras button. Now for gameplay, its mostly the same besides dying or entombing. Dying makes the pov switch back to the person, they look at their screen and pull up a list or something before it switches back to the spawn screen. Entombing has a similar effect, but this person writes something down on a notepad or clipboard before switching back. The idea is this person is accessing surveillance logs or even live feed of the dinosaurs for some reason. Maybe doing certain things in the main menu can trigger little easter eggs, and during cutscenes you can just barely make out some LOOORE in the background. Naturally this would be a toggle as well so if you dont wanna watch a small second animation when you die after dying 9 other times you don't have to.
but yeah thats it, Im insane I know
hi
Wheres the lore
its here
i think its a cool idea!
Yippieee
is there any lore reason for the spinos design looking very different than other models? Unless its a stylistic choice? the spino's model looks like it can blend more into its old hyper model (i dont remember if there's been a new one or not)
In game lore reason, idk, out of game is because monsterfied dinosaurs are cool sometimes
Rumpleeee what do you think of my idea a bit above?
Hard to tell, are we the player the EIP or observing an EIP?
Kind of like the first call of duty black ops? I liked that back then and find it would be cool for the isle to implement something similar.
Whaaaaaaat
Looks like a troodon
i think its compy, when i killed it it did not behave like a player at all
That is definitely a Compy
more compys spawning
this is lore?
no
where has lightclaw been
Vacation from what I've heard
ah okie 
gulp...
Wheres the lore
I ate it
That bat looks FAKE
okey dokey
RAAAAAA
I will now go back to lurking in chat waiting for Austro or Ben to be mentioned
It's not lore
Compie
erm actually
i personally think its just a design choice
tho i think theres a lore behind it
maybe the current evrima spinosaurus was a attempt of hyperendocrin experimental on a basic spinosaurus yet we got the current one
who knows
legacy... tho...
They said the update would be today, but so far nothing.
Issues probably happened which delayed it
Also wrong channel
Hurts when lore chat is so dead the only thing that can be seen is people "Mistaking" it for isle discussion

Bioluminescent stuff would be dope
Neuros perchance..
WOWWWW AMAZING
Isle discussion has been very spammy lately
Here's a random lore topic: fairly certain the Replicator was said to speak in some way (or at least it was an idea) and had a feminine voice.
That's spooky!
Part of me still wants the Replicator to have some singular physical form (think GLaDOS but...not) which yes, I know can be kinda cliche and generic...but man it's also cool.
On the other hand though, it instead being a collection of systems all around the place is not only spookier, but gives off the impression of an omnipresent god.
Which seems fitting for the Replicator
If the replicator is intelligent, I would prefer it to not have once centralized database, that way individual instances of the replicator can be appalled at what other instances have created
One day.
I feel like it's cooler if it doesn't have a voice.
Just simply text.

^
maybe not text either
im inclined to believe its behind the creation of type N specimins
so in my mind, i imagine different methods of communication
maybe
I really like the genre where the thing uses audio files that it collected from different kinds of media and uses those to convey their message

Where is the lore
Going back to this, I do think something like this, even if the replicator isn’t sentient, would be best, as it isolates different things that don’t need to be consolidated for security reasons, and if you’re working with gen 1, the replicator probably doesn’t need to do the same thing as with Mendys
Replicator with cold indifference as it’s personally trait would be cool
like 2001 space odyssey
<@&933486433342222376>
yup
man i want a sauropod playable
dry szn extra dry

That is no lore, Rump..
And everything else is neither
WHERE IS THE LOOOREEE
Gone

Is the thing on the left supposed to be The Replicator ?
i think so!
might be the funny regi pokemons
That would make sense
It's one of several Replicator personifications I've made huehue
Different every time because uh
yeah
To represent the Replicator as it has changed over the years, clearly
Although it would be fun, if it ever had a physical form, for that to be changing as it updates itself
Would be fun to have some old-timey supercomputers in game
I think this is the kind mentioned in the Jurassic Park novel
cobson
Give moar
Wheres the lore
Hibernating
I wonder if we’ll end up getting smaller docks around the island for easier resupplying of ranger stations by boat
God there's so much potential with Gen 2 gameplay. Lemme transport the g o o d s across the lil islands on my boat!
It's why stuff like "make your own fun" (which has been mentioned for them before) concerns me.
-# that and it sounds like a cop out almost every time it's used for something
Get a fishing boat and sell stuff off it when you meet people at docks
(They don't know I have a pet Ptera that helps me)
-# okay that actually sounds fun as hell
How to train your dragon but with pteras
that would be so so cool
I would point at the old concept map.... but nowadays the current map is even more different from that, so idk
yeah.. map has changed a lot..
I mean,
We have a small dock on the southwestern side of the island
funny that I can instantly tell the background is spiro
Not like anyone goes there sadly
yeah no MZ in the huge grasslands.. for some reason.. yay
Only a pz
yay..
What does he mean in the patchnotes by “Exported GUTS to external map”?
im unsure
Thanks
LOL
so true
i personally prefer the older map
my beatiful west access.....
back in my day gateway was good but this is the isle and we cant have nice things forever methinks
west access was mostly ugly
I liked it, but I'm not gonna kid myself that it was an amazing zone
thats life
donts pings mes!
Back in the day we had like 3 extra domes making it even harder for people to cross the map
Also we didn't have the sweet savanna biome, or the huge waterfall area
And I personally really like the look of the east lake
The domes gave the “promise” or “chance” of once being filled with a special biome, now that is gone. I didn’t mjnd the first iteration even if it was rough
North Dome's removal did nothing to benifit or hurt people moving around the map since it was literally 25% embedded inside a mountain that's still there.
South Dome's removal did nothing to benifit or hurt people moving around the map because it was replaced with a huge cliff going down into the swamp expansion that you have to go around. (Basically the same as before South Dome got removed)
East Dome.. well... I guess that did help people move around... Only if there was actually a purpose going through that area though...
Im not gonna say that the decisions to remove these domes were dumb,
We just dont know the reason. (May be a reason with the lore constantly changing)
However its nice to point out that the changes also made the map more dead/with no purpose of going there as a normal player. (Problem with no one ever placing a damn MZ/ MZs for the relevant dinosaurs into the places that are reworked, thanks)
WE REALLY need someone to fix/adjust MZs because god its all either just Riverdelta or Highlands.
Ironically the only two places on the map that weren't touched. Well Highlands just became a flat pvp land but we're gonna ignore that
Mangroves are coming tho!
hope they add some better transitions from salt to fresh water with mangroves
Or just anything to saltwater not being a wasteland
I knew they would
Theres been a lot that I've advocated in #general-feedback for which has seen fruition. The coloured night vision is one of those things, not trying to claim that it was solely I who suggested it but I am very happy to see it happen
Im putting all my money on the area highlighted in blue
never really asked, never seen it answered, what are the purple lines here if anyone knows?
Is this on vulnona or is this the one where someone highlighted ontop of it
vulnona, its just there
Im betting on Swamp coasts for some reason
If they put it in the mudflats that route of transport between the grasslands and west rail/highlands is DESTROYED. Unless they leave some space
@snow jasper This is what I've seen
probably a better place to put it to be honest
Awhile ago I suggested it to be on the small shallow island chain coming out of east plains.. (No longer plains)
Well huh
Thats gone
the top one
nah doesn't seem geographically viable
they seem to grow around bays, estuaries, deltas and whatnot
yeah you're right
Just sayin though..
If they cover the entirety of the mudflats, that just ruins the map even more...
So I hope they would only be along the very coast leaving paths in the middle
i still think this satellite imagery is pretty insane, the cutoff between rural india/bangladesh & the sundarban mangrove forest
yay
what % does rex reach maximum weight
I was shocked when I had a ptera MZ last night that was down in "south plains" (kinda half in the jungle where south plains used to be, and half in the southwest savanna)
Also they've cleaned up highlands a bit, feels less flat
And let me guess did that MZ disappear in less than 10 minutes
Also WHY does Ptera have that as an MZ
Yes, I'm saying it's less of flat land now
some parts are still rough, I expect more changes
I'm curious what the new highlands sanc looks like
hmmm
I also really want them to clean up highlands lake
Last time I went there as deino it was extremely boring, with no rocks or logs, just a smooth ugly riverbed with no place to hide
Might be different now though
I just want North Lake to get some glory again
#revivenorthlake
just fix the MZs there please…
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASEEEEE
you guys know how much ive talked about mangroves before lol
yeah mz's could really use something, feels like I only get the delta mz these days (with that single exception)
Don mentioned them among the plants getting custom models
Guys I have the "Steam subsystem failure" and I already redtarted my pc and cleared steam cache :'v any help?
have to wait for eos fix apparently averythign is down
Eos? What?
Ty!
Wait, The isle is from Epic Games?? Since when?
i got no idea its just what the admins are saying in a different chat
Please only use this channel for its intended use
OMG WAIT NO MB
I thought I was on the Discussion channel I'm so sorry NSSK
i was just helping him 💀
was the trex removed on evrima
No its in hordetest branch, also this is lore chat
I mean, theres this
Pretty sure this isn't new tho. Might be wrong
This got changed up a bit. "Proper" dead ends lol
aha
yeah nothing around the four GUTS entrances at volcano
oh well
I return when I see raptor rush energy…
lol
It’s not new
Indeed
augh, I thought they had opened it when I saw you in there, Volcano complex I will get in someday
I wonder if any neuros will have warmer color options
what if the isle had dinosaurs.
SoonTM
Hi, could some of you guys point me to a YouTube channel that could provide me with the basics of the isle lore. The videos I've found seem to approach more complicated stuff
Lightclaw
He has a bunch of lore videos
Thanks 🙏
this creature pleases me
i only have one that might be more in line to an introduction
the 'rest' is more 50/50
trying to breakdown given lore videos — which... yeah... i do not do amazingly but some people think they're ok!
i hope to see something cool like this in the 'server room' in Atrium/Dock facility building
the bigish 3 (4?) story building that is both in the atrium and east dock
Ooooohhhh yeahhhhhh
thank you
we assumed it (the replicator) was referred to by Dondi as a she
but the context of it was my mistake
I do not believe he was specifically referring to The Replicator
however, i am going to find the original reference by Don and fact check
from this
Don — 01/11/2022, 19:56
I've narrated some directorate stuff but I'll probably pass that off to much better VO's.
Same with the AI.
Though I have considered keeping the AI since it's unnerved everyone on the team that's heard it.
what i believe this was in reference to, "the AI", is/was not about The Replicator
but actually about using a TTS system (or an actual AI voice) for "something"
what something?
hahaha!
maybe it is under the same 'directorate stuff', which would be the easiest/Occams razor answer
Ok genetically something goes wrong right
Depends on your definition of wrong
Okkkkkk elaborate
Just because something is horrendous or monstrous doesn’t mean it isn’t what was desired
Ok! So they intended for the creation of the abominations
Some of them probably, and that depends on your definition of abomination
They’re all mutated
Likely mostly intentional
Gen 1 were made to be weapons, so they likely expected and prepared for some amount of resistance
And hypers, neuros, and tissos are likely much more dangerous
So it went wrong in the sense that the mutants turned on their creators
And just exploded exponentially into what they are by evolution
Natural selection on a exponential scale
Into the monstrosities
But someone was watching……..
And wanted this to happen
For the ultimate bio weapon
I call it artificial evolution because the replicator is rapidly accelerating mutations and beneficial mutations
Yes like dog breeding ok
Gen 1 are bioweapons, not strains
Selecting desirable attributes
Which are considered gen 1?
la creature
Hypers, neuros, and tissos are strains, yes
So do the humans work with the animals
Or is there a ghost in the machine so to speak
Damn everytime I look into this channel I feel so lost ToT
There’s a guide in the pinned comments
I saw ty 
So the replicator is creating all the creatures or what is the replicator ?
I know that it is a collection of systems but I don't understand the purpose of it and if it is out of controll or is it planned
It makes the dinosaurs and gen 1, likely more
Likely under control when AE occupied the island, unknown now
Gen 1 does interact with it though for benefits
Ok so AE used that to create all the creatures now with how things went wrong it might be just creating life without any limits to it
Wonder how it creates them tho since the cretures are not robots, except the clanker pic that I saw and how it didn't get destroyed yet via plants and dinosaurs
Good to know that gen1 prolly has still human intellegence to it
Still?
They had human intelligence?
I would assume it takes some sort of intellegence to interact with a system like the Replicator
Because it seems complicated
Depends on how they interact with it
Because my first thought was that the replicator is a machine a system so they would use Data or knowledge from it
definitely those two categories
and "probably" for Gen2s
depends on 'allegiance', i suppose
if The Replicator is just an "ANI" (artificial narrow AI)
basically just given command and produces result
then I can see Gen2s still being made / 'spat out' by The Replicator
knowing 'the body' of the Replicator is not on Gateway
which makes sense, we definitely don't have any indication yet that they make things in Gateway
only seeing Injections (being brought / injected into the ecosystem of Gateway)
of course, that is just art (that we don't have) and also presuming that such 'body' is also the part of the replicator that spits out things
for all we know, could just be the 'brain' component located in "X" unknown location
but yea
and such workers could also be Gen2
as indicated by the Dibble TCAM (file recovery video) and Don's reply to someones question about the human in the frames being Gen2 or not
thus potentially Gen2s are also workers
on the same level? who knows
maybe there is some sort of prejudiced/bias caste system — Natural vs 'Non-natural'
Apollo politics !!!
Well we do have the game mechanic where we spawn in as juvies
If that is canon, I suppose maybe they are making these things on site? But as you said, without evidence of production we can't assume
ye
like, it could be something like the Flint Lockwood Diatonic Super Mutating Dynamic Food Replicator (FLDSMDFR) ||cloudy with a chance of meatballs||
where the "body" of The Replicator is like a human
something that can be observed as 'mono'-body-like, there is probably some sort of technical name for this — but basically the mind and system(s) connected into generally one central body (however big it may be, but all physically still connected into the idea of a connected body, rather then just a lengthily connected network of systems ... but i suppose that is a very philosophical argument on what counts as a body lol)
- this would include The TOMB being part of it, the CPU/brain, the things that spit out creatures, etc etc
or
like what I believe you're infering (and I more believe)
with it being more a proper network system that is far less 'body-like' then something like the FLDSMDFR
if, like you say, the actual idea of us spawning as juvies (via the replicator purely) is kept over from legacy canon, then it would definitely more on the side of the latter
So much to read I love it
Literally me absorbing information
lol
When I think about it, it is exactly like it
lol
also how late were you to finding this out Cerato 💔
with this
my presumption is that Omnisaur is used as a generic title for generic dinosaurs
I do wonder what about Megalania? and the few others who are not explicitly 'dinosaurs'
to be fair, the dinosaurs aren't really 'saurs' anyways — being not really lizards
so i suppose it isn't much of a hassle anyways
but i do believe it isn't a misspelling of Omniraptor
I knew, I just tried starting conversation…
oh and you did it a day before with c14
i swear i told about it
btw the isle is almost 10 years old! don't forget!
why
nothing ever happens in #isle-lore-theories 😔 😔 😔 😔 😔
Because The Isle
Probably nothing will happen in the game,
Maybe a discord announcement
why would they make an announcement...
nothing will happen, time will pass on
and the isle will come to 20 years soon
Hordetest is nowhere near being done and polished
because.. 10th anniversary,, is a cool thing to mention...
Yk.. games do that..
but this is the
last dblog of the year, 95% chance
or we get a two paragraph pre-xmas/holiday devblog
i just realized we might be getting a devblog in a few days
its today
it should be today
probably not
praying for that..
The Isle
the archipelago
I’d even be happy for the color palette to be readjusted…
If we count in legacy then yes it's almost 10 years
And dondi already stated smt like sale or anything similar will not happen on the 10th year
A sale isnt anything special really..
Happens every year for the game on christmas lol...
Of course we count it
It still still the isle
Thus the isle
And basically a comes when its yearly anniversary is anyways
Ik Ik just wanted to share what I know so far
Devblog tomorrow woohoo
What does it say on that cd
I think it's default text
Awe 
There's definately environmental storytelling in k15 if you guys want to go check it out lol, I like it a lot
Something broke all of these
Broke in either here or here
Then broke through both of these
All of the doors here are opened outwards, which makes me think people were fleeing
what dino was it tho I think herra is too weak to destroy that latter
Something broke in here and out there, potentially beforehand, causing the others to shelter in the base
Could be a strain maybe
The doors all opened outwards once again
Def a sign that they were fleeing I agree
This window just doesn't exist, either an error or it's supposed to be broken, this is for the medical bay
The building by the entrance with the camera attached seems fine
The one in the back seems mostly ok other than a mauled ladder on the side
Where is that k 15 like river delta ?
Mhm
Alright might check that out
I'm working on making a diagram
OO make sure to post it
I need it to be light again
Worth noting, all of the cameras are by entrances, but not all the doorways have cameras
We are so back
I believe these were here a few weeks back when k15 was updated
But still
It be pretty cool
freddy fazbear gaming
im rather more interested in what caused these
something small? i don't know, something big? maybe
something small would've did these (omniraptor/herrera)
but putting the fact that theres bent and broken ladder
absolutely lowers the fact of something small/mid causing these
i can't see an omniraptor bending or breaking those
its so confusing that its something being able to reach/climb to the ceiling window yet being able to break the ladder
maybe its a strain? i don't know
could it be an hyperendocrin? maybe but its def not the big ones like giganotosaurus, rex, etc.
i personally can't see a singular basic dinosaur to cause these damaged to the building on the roadmap
i still wonder what is it that caused all of this
definitely not a herrera
herrera would be able to break those windows unless they're made extremely strong
tho i can't see herrera bending and especially BREAKING the ladder
also i personally believe that the windows were extremely strong, atleast it should be
putting the fact that theres bunch of dinosaurs that just can enter there and break into
unless apollo forgot to make the windows extremely strong or just didn't wanted to, logically they should be made extremely strong for the safety of employees
putting the fact that the windows was possibly really strong, ladder being broken and bent, also the ceiling windows was broken, its for sure no regular dinosaur
its something strong and big enough to break those windows and climb to the ceiling.
It’s
A broken window
Similar to everything else that’s broken in bases 
Could be anything from dinosaurs to storms
Yay
true.
but yet theres a fact that this might be caused by something alive
I smell man made horrors beyond comprehension…
elder hypsi's huge girth broke those ladders and windows
fear the elder hypsi
What’s the lore behind Bary and Austro cages I wonder 
Most likely nothing other than an easter egg for players to find since they're the next dinos coming up lol
They did something naughty
If there is any lore to it then it's just world building lore
If there is even MORE to it, then it could mean that major operations are still ongoing even in the abandoned facilities. But I doubt it
Some tropical hurricanes can have wind that destroys buildings, so I wouldn't rule out storms as an option for broken windows, especially if this location has been without repairs for a long period of time
Obviously the largely-concrete structures we see in game will hold up better than a modern house, but if there is wind strong enough to destroy a house, it could knock out reinforced windows
Wouldn't the surplus of jungle act as a moderate wind barrier to some extent though
although, you can rule out the perimeter, no good reason for that to be intact
K15 is on the side of a cliff tho…
However those same buildings are also seen at I12 and C14 sooo
There’s several inch steel bars that are bent in at the top and bottom, one going into the house, one going out of the house
could still potentially be explained by flying debris in a wind storm
not saying you are wrong, just trying to be thorough (and somewhat playing devil's advocate)
True
where are devblog
hi rumple how ur day been
Eeby
what should i grow on ht
Punchpacket will post it when it's ready. Keep an eye out in #announcements
yuh
rex
kk
I'd work here
Kitchen

?
Might be the interactive audio thing that @acoustic osprey loves
In which section is this?
wedge
hmm
Maybe a christmas event?
Maybe..
maybe...
Not a single mention of The Isle's 10th anniversary tho!
lol
Wait so I kinda forgot what happened to guts again?
pretty sure that the guts werent rendering properly and making peformance terrible
5.7
Somehow broke and unable to be fixed yay
rapidly accelerated to RIP, than just being exported for possible performance issues, I think volcano base is probably gone from behind the closed doors, cant exactly check 
Yup..
Isn't "External Mapping" a thing in game programming?
not like indoors/outdoors like we would think of it
Anyone know approximately what speed adult bary will be?
you might have more luck in the non-lore channel #isle-discussion
I tryed that
well lore people probably wouldn't know 
Ha
Kill
Alive, not alive, could be alive, not alive?
lol no u wouldnt
youd be like some random construction worker and youd die while working on a fence
Yay
hopefully means that we won't have that really weird and out of place marketplace fridge
times species location...
That
likely not though, to be fair
Looks like my fridge
Oh
if it is to 'breathe life' (quote from wedge)
a 'randomly' activated lore-esque thing would not be fitting in that description
i wonder if LAB IX has been copy pasted into the new facility building
i presume it's more so assets being shuffled around
so, therefore, will it still be called LAB IX?
Ohh true
If GUTS is truly dead then there’s limited space to have over 9 labs on the surface
Wait what’s IX again..
Either way, I suppose GUTS can still exist in the lore just not on the actual map.. sadly..
9
the reference from Don might be that it's been stored
basically on the dev test map (either or)
i presume they may bring GUTS back, but likely not for Gateway (at least for a WHILE)
which is annoying
does this invalidate ERRANT-291 now?
does this mean Don may have to re-write lore to exclude all mentions of GUTS for Gateway?
having it, potentially, in-lore on another island
because you cannot simply write GUTS into Gateway's lore
then not have GUTS (in Gateway)
only if GUTS is only in Gateway, that is
or if Dondi had ERRANT-291 written in Gateway's "GUTS"
yay..
I still find it hard to believe that whatever happened to GUTS is impossible to fix..
i think it is more so not worth their time

which is weird because this isn't the first time something has come around and been a long fix to implement
i.e. both UE5 updates
but it is related to something only a niche community really care about, so we don't really weigh in. I suppose.
I mean you could
Just players wouldn’t be able to actually get in
It could exist in lore
We could have maps of it
Idk
It could just be a whole separate map tbh “GUTS of Gateway”
So basically anyone playing on “Gateway” won’t be able to get in the tunnels/they just wouldn’t be in it.
And anyone playing “GUTS of Gateway” would only have the tunnels.. with like 5 player slots lol
WHAT I MEAN is that it could be written in the lore, just not be in the game
Similar to the Matriarch fantasy lol
it being a major system and meant for Humans makes me say nay
unlike something like monorail
Oh humans..
Hah
Humans… in the isle 
They’ll survive on the surface with human structures probably..
Like it was meant to be
In the before before times...
Saying that
Rip us trying to redo the bunker trailer
So wait we won't have guts on gateway ?
Seems like a big most probably no
Likely not for quite a long while now
I thought guts would be on gateway from the sounds of it but I guess no underground for us
Unfortunately,
Maybe theres a quicker solution in the future.. maybe not.. who knows
that's super unfortunate 
They could possibly design and keep it on a separate map entirely, partitioned and accessed by a loading screen, or loading screens at various exits. This would allow it to be developed without interfering with map above.
Loading screen partition is sort of old school, but it's not a horrible idea.
It was supposed to be
yall what does it mean if outta know where my ping is at 550 and my fps is at 0 ....
Could work but....
there was a Don stream once that had the word “Lab” over what was once SW no man’s land of gateway, since then it’s been expanded into more swamp I believe but what do we think about the lab’s placement once it’s added? think it could still be in swamp or perhaps connected to the pits in south plains?
oh the "flooded visitor center" i believe?
it was on the same map from that stream
there was a lab like in the mountainside of what used to be SW iirc
idk if we still have those images saved somewhere
flooded visitor center would be so cool if we got it, with dilapidated boardwalks and such
ahh yes
i have the vod somewhere
but i'll have a look
there we are
true but
i makes no sense for apollo to make basic buildings personally
i think that apollo would have extremely strong and reinforced building putting the fact that theres hyperendocrins and other strains roaming the island
that area is now the shrubland if I remember correctly since that looks like pre trike update south plains
so maybe that new human poi there in this current hordetest will eventually be labs
More like it’s the containment facility now
@hexed forge thats what I meant by human poi here
labs is interesting tho
if not here, then where
we also have "labs" in the audio codex
There is a bunch of space for those huge buildings from the Devblog so it’s possible that they expand it with more buildings that contain the “labs”
Oh my
I hope the thing Wedge talked about is properly implementing all of the OST laying around into the game
I also hope the flooded visitor center from that stream will come as well
yes god please
remove the deino trailer music that plays at night its so obnoxious
lol
I still have music on when I play herbivores
I love this games music but it just plays at the worst time when you're a carnivore
I have it on for everything
It barely plays for me, the music plays like once every 20 minutes
However it is at like 15% so maybe I just don’t hear it sometimes
theres also the bug where combat music plays and then never ever stops
forcing me to put it at 0
Yay
I've noticed many areas across the map that are flattened and have no brush or trees, and I always wonder if they are the sites of future human bases
They will
that be why i being posted it, quite so
because it be the 'new' pits area
likely
but it also could be like the million different paths/roads we had lying gateway on launch
which lead to nowhere
and basically nothing was added at their 'ends'
but hopefully the further flattening of areas could bring some new pois
yay
Why is death messages in hordetest so goofy
The end is not the end? Other random stuff
Thousand life contract stuff and eip related
Can we get austro? So I can look into his butaful eyes 24/7
because it is about 8 years old now
