then the rest comes from Dawndi
#isle-lore-theories
acoustic osprey
echo gazelle
Perhaps Arthur Hammond 
acoustic osprey
Perhaps ~~Arthur Hammond~~ <:TI_Troll:472576085482143745>
hallow ruin
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i'd be so happyif this is intentional...
if this was lore... if it was EIP related 😈
hexed forge
I doubt so
hallow ruin
I doubt so
ever heard of the things people been saying about pigs
how its human souls trapped in a cursed body blablabla
i feel like it would be cool (not saying it is for fact) that this reflects to isle dinos being an actual human soul/mind trapped within a dinosaur
fringe berry
speaking of maps didnt one of them say there was gonna be maps with different climates? i hope if they do a snowy one all of the dinosaurs have feathers or fur as some cool little detail
hexed forge
speaking of maps didnt one of them say there was gonna be maps with different cl...
I think you are referring to the Bio-Domes having different climates. But either way I would love for some unlockable skin cosmetics via mutations/Elders
torpid roost
i feel like *it would be cool* (not saying it is for fact) that this reflects to...
i mean after all they dont have dino DNA so they should have little desing peculiarities that maybe reflect EIPs like the eyes
or the new trike model neck being to high
maybe its a desing issue or maybe its lore!
could be the reason why deino blinks vertically instead of horizontally
echo gazelle
It’s been mentioned Deino has mitochondrial RNA of the nile crocodile which wasn’t a dino but ye
echo gazelle
No wonder the radio tower had emitted an SOS, it was dying 
spiro dead or offline?
We are not a distress signal. We are a warning
hexed forge
No wonder the radio tower had emitted an SOS, it was dying <:TI_Trollge:81195771...
Not exactly what I was referencing but yes!
torpid roost
No wonder the radio tower had emitted an SOS, it was dying <:TI_Trollge:81195771...
i was the SOS
lethal moat
I want more blinky lights and clicky clacks
Lore specific items in merch store I beg
pseudo lantern
may I purchase one replicator
torpid roost
gen 1 plushie might be fire
ornate comet
may I purchase one replicator
That will be…let’s see here….the GPD of America
pseudo lantern
gross product (domestic)
lethal moat
may I purchase one replicator
They’re actually free, I myself have 32 replicators in my basement
ornate comet
gross product (domestic)
Whoops lol
low scarab
may I purchase one replicator
One lifesize replicator sculpture please 👆
low scarab
They’re actually free, I myself have 32 replicators in my basement
yea i heard they have a bunch next to the complimentary mints
acoustic osprey
No wonder the radio tower had emitted an SOS, it was dying <:TI_Trollge:81195771...
😔 lol
reef canyon
I believe they are the same though I have not checked on main branch just yet
deft perch
dont dlete it this time. this is abig isue
oh come on man i see you
a man wont respect the theory
echo gazelle
Don't spam channels with that, also read the channel description please
deft perch
I HAVE A CONSPICIRY THEORY. the goveremnt is now covering up any path of this stego
echo gazelle
oop
acoustic osprey
I believe they are the same though I have not checked on main branch just yet
yeah, most likely
acoustic osprey
was just reminded of this
is sick
does bring up the question though
what made this happen? Something 'natural?
or something unnatural...?
lethal moat
Something intentional?
acoustic osprey
(that being the unnatural)
although... if made by a human... humans are natural creatures therefore what they make is natural as well...
median shuttle
Lore specific items in merch store I beg
So if I, hypothetically, needed a Gen2 standard shirt, for a hypothetical video, I might be in luck?
lethal moat
So if I, hypothetically, needed a Gen2 standard shirt, for a hypothetical video,...
Fingers crossed
acoustic osprey
So if I, hypothetically, needed a Gen2 standard shirt, for a hypothetical video,...
potentially
i mean, we might get an artbook in the future
which would be sick
but actual lore stuff would be amazing
median shuttle
An isle branded fieldbook for excursions would be sick, an AE branded fieldbook would be even sicker
acoustic osprey
An isle branded fieldbook for excursions would be sick, an AE branded fieldbook ...
give me a LORE Branded diary-esque book 🙏
like, having the Isle logo on it is cool
but an in-lore book to write on, as if i was part of the world, would be amazing
median shuttle
like, having the Isle logo on it is cool
but an in-lore book to write on, as if ...
My thoughts exactly
knotty locust
you know what would be super insane about this
if burrowers could simply burrow through it and live on the otherside with a big tunnel all to themselves
lethal moat
if burrowers could simply burrow through it and live on the otherside with a big...
And anything small enough to fit through those burrows
Like gen 2
knotty locust
And anything small enough to fit through those burrows
Like gen 2
still insane to me that gen 2s would be physically small enough to fit in burrows dug by dryo and ava
but yeah that would be awesome
frozen totem
You can see construction equipment there, meaning this happened during or slightly prior to "the event"
twin vortex
You can see construction equipment there, meaning this happened during or slight...
I assume "the event" is when the dinos broke out and ate everyone. Likely including strains and such
frozen totem
or something like that
twin vortex
I assume its the strains that initiated it considering I believe a Dev described them with that message in mind something along the lines of "what happens when you go too far" or something
frozen totem
idk maybe
hallow ruin
may I purchase one replicator
i would hate dondi so much if this actually happens
itd be funny, i know it wont ever happen but it still got a chance of happening
fast forge
I assume "the event" is when the dinos broke out and ate everyone. Likely includ...
We used to talk about an "event"
But Don straight told us it wasn't just one event, it was a number of events
frozen totem
There's a hole in the base near west access that lets you go beneath the map. Possibly meant to be a guts entrance?
twin vortex
We used to talk about an "event"
But Don straight told us it wasn't just one eve...
I'm really excited for this to be touched on and I have a strong feeling that will happen after the humans get the love they are pending (presumably after bary judging by devblog maybe sooner)
hallow ruin
look at people flood this chat now
fast forge
they gotta talk about lore tho
compact harness
hexed forge
As Rumple said, might be something intentional? It would be really cool if it was intentional, as a means of either trapping something or hiding whatever that tunnel led to.
HOWEVER
There are cones and barriers, which makes this seem like it was a natural accident and not something made in a rush to hide something.
cerulean flax
i really like u guyss creativity
snow jasper
cerulean flax
https://tenor.com/view/12-monkeys-tweaking-crazy-losing-it-brad-pitt-12-monkeys-...
no like theyre guessing/thinking about stuff about a dinosaur game lol its really impressive
snow jasper
no like theyre guessing/thinking about stuff about a dinosaur game lol its reall...
We're all clinically insane
cerulean flax
lethal moat
We're all clinically insane
Cheers I’ll drink to that bro
snow jasper
Cheers I’ll drink to that bro
fast forge
https://tenor.com/view/pepe-iasip-charlie-conspiracy-gif-11562330
my favorite tv show
acoustic osprey
As Rumple said, might be something intentional? It would be really cool if it wa...
unless such a ploy was done in secret... therefore done as a cover-up....
although, occams razor says it is a bit too complicated
so either or, i don't mind
hexed forge
unless such a ploy was done in secret... therefore done as a cover-up....
I suppose so
Im fine with anything as long as it makes sense!
acoustic osprey
Im fine with anything as long as it makes sense!
ERRANT-291 passed through there....
sooner or later, we might actually pass 'd section interior'
acoustic osprey
wherever OLYMPUS TRANSMITTER is...
especially since it was on AE-001/V3 in legacy lore, iirc
would make sense seeing as Gateway was originally on AE-001...
acoustic osprey
Eh
i say it is a high chance
i don't imagine we wouldn't get wherver ERRANT-291 was (whatever site/facility it was)
just seems a bit silly/a lot of effort
to put in a fair amount of work into it
however, there is a good chance that the actual network graph (the abstract graph) isn't the same anymore
hexed forge
true
snow jasper
i‘d abstain from the lore map until they flesh out the perimeter fully
a lot could change before then
and after too, but it seems like a fair benchmark to wait until personally
acoustic osprey
i‘d abstain from the lore map until they flesh out the perimeter fully
i only have one really confirmed planned map atm
that being The Preserve (if we never get it)
that '2nd' map being if we get more lore on it
as we don't know if it is a Site (as in a full on island)
or a site (as in a facility on an island)
muted reef
low scarab
We yearn for the need to find our own lore in the game satiate ourselves with the fruits of our labor
Work and toil the fields of maps papers or notes for information
Please.
acoustic osprey
We yearn for the need to find our own lore in the game satiate ourselves with th...
soon!
soon..
nimble fractal
not soon.
lethal moat
https://tenor.com/view/yelena-belova-black-widow-gif-23654607
Funnily enough, I came home from work and my family was watching that movie
acoustic osprey
added a little section to the doc
Grid Coordinates: Same and/or most ‘human buildings’ (on the surface of Gateway) have some sort of Grid Coordinate, i.e. K15. However (As seen in the AUGUSTUS and File Recovery Video), Apollo Engineering seem to refer to these locational coordinates with 2 ‘sections’ instead of 1: GW_## instead of just K15.
- The only known given ‘Coords, officially, are GW_F5 and GW_H4
pseudo fable
i only have one really confirmed planned map atm
that being The Preserve (if we ...
Reserve*.
acoustic osprey
how could i have done this 😔
lol
||my mistake though, we were told the right name though||
lethal moat
Literally get wall of noped
acoustic osprey
i can't even blame tiredness for my blunder lol
it was 10am
I will blame... uh! Me calling it a hunting lodge, guh
lethal moat
The preserve (canned goods pantry)
acoustic osprey
The preserve (canned goods pantry)
I don't know if I prefer The Preserve or The Galley more
acoustic osprey
id really love to do it for fun
maybe for a future mod, would be cool
we're likely never going to get it as a proper map
so I'd like to 'do it ourselves' per se
hallow ruin
oh then cool i can do it without getting overshadowed by the official one 😃
acoustic osprey
but i wanna do it!!
hallow ruin
so I'd like to 'do it ourselves' per se
if we get more info about it would be cool too
yk, more accurately make it
acoustic osprey
the hope is there, yeah
Tamim, why don't we just do it together...
my plan was basically doing it once Modding Support comes out
and if the devs don't plan on making it a map
specifically, turning it into a proper "Hunting" experience as well - to replicate lore
whilst also replicate what i wanted from TheHunter Primal
Basically:
1-10 persons on the map (depending on the size of the map of course, maybe even push it up to 50)
Only Human playables
Dinosaurs are AI only
"Main Goal" is to hunt Dinosaurs
potentially have a Gen1 faction as well?
hallow ruin
Tamim, why don't we just do it together...
why were we originally doing it separately?
acoustic osprey
why were we originally doing it separately?
no idea 
hallow ruin
lol
acoustic osprey
i just got no clue on who can/wants to help with it
and if i can get you, you would be a life saver
hallow ruin
specifically, turning it into a proper "Hunting" experience as well - to replica...
yeah
we dont really know Gen2 gameplay yet
but would be fun to mod a new outfit and model maybe (making them look like actual people not Gen2) and make them able to hunt these stuff
acoustic osprey
yeah
we dont really know Gen2 gameplay yet
but would be fun to mod a new outfit...
we dont really know Gen2 gameplay yet
We don't gotta! that's the fun thing/part
hallow ruin
and if i can get you, you would be a life saver
i tried learning coding/doing playables for months, and i changed my mind lol
now i wanna do map design, so sure!
hallow ruin
> we dont really know Gen2 gameplay yet
We don't gotta! that's the fun thing/par...
exactly
acoustic osprey
knowing that The Reserve is supposed to be the hunting lodge in-lore is good
hallow ruin
what i meant is "i dont know if our way would be like it or very different"
acoustic osprey
what i meant is "i dont know if *our way* would be like it or very different"
true true
hallow ruin
we dont know if Gen2s will play like PC merc
or zoo keepers
or idk
hallow ruin
im telling you it, although i dislike it but im almost sure this is how it is
we'll just be humans spawning and surviving and killing just like dinos 🤷♂️
away from lore, this will be generally the gameplay
sadly
acoustic osprey
Basically:
1-10 persons on the map (depending on the size of the map of course,...
honestly, if i were any good...
We know there would be a commerical area on The Reserve as well
So turning that area into like a 'hand in your trophies and get money to buy at X kiosk/vendor' would be cool
acoustic osprey
im telling you it, although i dislike it but im almost sure this is how it is
we...
i just... 😔
yeah, I do hope it doesn't turn into that
like, it would be fun
but quite annoying for any non-humans
hallow ruin
Basically:
1-10 persons on the map (depending on the size of the map of course,...
like safari trips somewhere in africa
hallow ruin
(but including the illegal poaching)
im sure people hunting animals in some african natural preserve is also illegal lol
acoustic osprey
that's what i mean
safari trips would be legal
but the poaching part would not
wouldn't be surprised if most rich peoples have a go and pay off the government.
Alas, that mod is still a very infant dream
especially until we get Modding confirmed as 'coming real soon'
hallow ruin
Alas, that mod is still a very infant dream
i mean, some people are already working on their mods, many that i know
cuz yk, these take long to make and probably modding will be just long enough for them to finish
so im not really worried that we'll be done and have to wait....
acoustic osprey
i mean, some people are already working on their mods, many that i know
cuz yk, ...
Nova...
fair fair
I just don't know where we could start for making the map
acoustic osprey
like
we have a general outline
but how do we do the map? I suppose on Unreal Engine
hallow ruin
like
we have a general outline
but how do we *do* the map? I suppose on Unreal E...
surely, ofcourse
acoustic osprey
like
we have a general outline
but how do we *do* the map? I suppose on Unreal E...
but do we need to use assets from Isle?
hallow ruin
Hypernova...
oh yeah, lol i always dont recognize "nova"
yeah him and also us in LoseHope, you surely seen FRK posting some of the dino concepts
strange shell
but do we need to use assets from Isle?
dEPENDS ON IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DOWNLOAD A 30gb MOD
acoustic osprey
i know how to semi-mod another game, but that uses Paradox's engine
which has an inbuilt system
strange shell
dEPENDS ON IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DOWNLOAD A 30gb MOD
but reverse caps
acoustic osprey
oh yeah, lol i always dont recognize "nova"
yeah him and also us in LoseHope, ...
aye quite so!
acoustic osprey
dEPENDS ON IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DOWNLOAD A 30gb MOD
i think i will make it 31GB just for you...
i don't mind total conversion mods taking a gig or two though
hallow ruin
but do we need to use assets from Isle?
well ofcourse, and thinking of it, working ojn it whtout an actual modding kit will be pain to make it compatible and usable
but hey, we still can theorize, make rough ideas and "proof of concept" as the actual modding support comes, and we would only need redoing it the right way, no need to think again
acoustic osprey
i know how to semi-mod another game, but that uses Paradox's engine
which has an...
i.e. they have a supported system for mods
but with isle? No, of course.
So. I have no idea where to start...
acoustic osprey
well ofcourse, and thinking of it, working ojn it whtout an actual modding kit w...
working ojn it whtout an actual modding kit will be pain to make it compatible and usable
Exactly! I wish i had the dev kit from Legacy that they used for modding back in ye olden days
hallow ruin
wow u make me realize i F up with typos a lot sometimes
acoustic osprey
well ofcourse, and thinking of it, working ojn it whtout an actual modding kit w...
but with your second line
exactly!
i might make a document
if i make a document, i'll DM you
acoustic osprey
wow u make me realize i F up with typos a lot sometimes
lol
hallow ruin
> working ojn it whtout an actual modding kit will be pain to make it compatible...
hmmm.. possibly theres someway to get it still?
acoustic osprey
but with your second line
exactly!
i might make a document
if i make a document...
like a pre-production document!
hallow ruin
but with your second line
exactly!
i might make a document
if i make a document...
neat
ur a great yapper
acoustic osprey
hmmm.. possibly theres someway to get it still?
honestly, no clue.
Maybe if you or I can find someone who used to do mods back then.
But. Chances they still have it? However one could 'still have it'
Low chances...
acoustic osprey
ur a great yapper
hallow ruin
thats a hypno reference
hallow ruin
honestly, no clue.
Maybe if you or I can find someone who used to do mods back t...
oh i actually might know someone that would help, hopefully
need to check
acoustic osprey
thats a hypno reference
wah oh
acoustic osprey
also TS1, just for some context to what Don has said he has 'done' with The Reserve
polar bramble
💀
muted hill
the reserve interests me, I used to always assume AE kept the whole dinosaur thing away from the public, but the reserve being for commericial hunting (I think it was iirc) means the outside world nows of it to some degree
hallow ruin
the reserve interests me, I used to always assume AE kept the whole dinosaur thi...
ig it sounds like JP3 to me
ik isle lore is heavily inspired by JP
and i know these two lowkey match
so the reserve isnt "jurassic world or park" type thing
but rather a secret thing only the rich people get to know and have use of
muted hill
ik isle lore is heavily inspired by JP
and i know these two lowkey match
so the...
yeah thats a good way of putting it
lethal moat
the reserve interests me, I used to always assume AE kept the whole dinosaur thi...
I imagine it’s a luxury for the ridiculously wealthy
stone wedge
We get it Don. Apollo is into some satanic magic science. It doesn't have to insist on itself.
acoustic osprey
lol
austere bloom
acoustic osprey
the reserve interests me, I used to always assume AE kept the whole dinosaur thi...
show 90%... hide 10%...
acoustic osprey
the reserve interests me, I used to always assume AE kept the whole dinosaur thi...
could be a good-ish source for income, potentially?
how much does one pay to Hunt in this area? Versus how much does it cost to run?
is there a limit they're allowed to hunt depending on how much they 'paid' to be here?
makes me think — does it actually cost AE to make dinosaur?
hexed forge
Apollo Financial
acoustic osprey
outside of the obvious power cost
safe ravine
<@&933486433342222376>
??
safe ravine
lol
acoustic osprey
i thought it was weird that the user was muted
but the link still there
snow jasper
DELUSION
gaunt dawn
<@&933486433342222376>
DONT PING DEVS
acoustic osprey
DONT PING DEVS
gaunt dawn
acoustic osprey
Alas, i want to say there is a chance we'll get some further map changes when Trike update becomes real
but honestly, that chance seems low
Seeing as they want to get performance fixed prior to release
however, higher chance we'll see map changes with Rex? Mayhaps
likely if there is a bit of a gap between Trike release and Rex HT
muted hill
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1355713128570159114/1355768109331644467/i...
Do you think it’s possible the replicators influence reaches the reserve? Keeping it stocked with game and potentially resurrecting any of the visitors
lethal moat
Do you think it’s possible the replicators influence reaches the reserve? Keepin...
I wouldn’t be surprised, the replicator is a system of machines that makes life
muted hill
Oh it’s a system? I thought it was a single god like machine
lethal moat
Oh it’s a system? I thought it was a single god like machine
The replicator isn’t just one thing me thinks
hallow ruin
show 90%... hide 10%...
let the public assume you're very transparent by showing a lot, not knowing "a lot is a relative thing"
hallow ruin
however, higher chance we'll see map changes with Rex? Mayhaps
i beleive the map is so awesome for rex release currently
dude
west access, south plains, the delta, everywhere is well done
only thing i BEGG to be fixed is performance
hallow ruin
Oh it’s a system? I thought it was a single god like machine
although Rumple is completely right, but i still believe ur also right
so, by a system this means the TOMB, the EIPs the things that all connect to making an organism
but what you're referring to, and what is im curious about, is the ACTUAL "god like machine" as you said
muted hill
I’m open to that, isle lore is confusing to me but I still wanna learn it haha
hallow ruin
there must be a sinngle machine/room that makes the physical thing, somehow
idk how to explain it
but what you referring to isnt the whole replicator, its a part of it, and its a mysterious part we never got told about
muted hill
The bio logical godlike 3d printer itself, hail spirit of the machine 📿
hallow ruin
exactly
lethal moat
We know there’s concept art of a physical representation, or something along those lines, of the replicator
muted hill
Doktors doodles of it with the homalo are the cannon art
hallow ruin
We know there’s concept art of a physical representation, or something along tho...
i believe its like those strain plant concepts and it just shows a room with a decaying overgrown by ivy machine with a broken glass roof and the sun light is hitting it from above
idk i just get this feeling 🤣
muted hill
THERE IT IS
hallow ruin
i do personally like the idea of a 3d printer type thing
but realistically? i think its a massive room with hundreds of vats that have the creature grow in them
muted hill
I kinda imagine a giant open facility with it its center just…staring and observing
hallow ruin
WAIT A SECOND I JUST GOT AN OLD MEMORY UNLOCKED
i played horizon zero dawn back in 2017 and i loved it
it feels A LOT like the isle lore IMO
anyone have played it?
muted hill
Hold on a moment does anyone have those super old tribal concept of different cave paintings
hallow ruin
there was literally a machine called the matriarch (afaik?) which is technically the replicator in isle's case
muted hill
Damn I can’t find the art I’m thinking of, but one of the images was a circle with the rays similar to that one rumple posted
hallow ruin
Damn I can’t find the art I’m thinking of, but one of the images was a circle wi...
OH YEAH
that was in spiro, with a bunch of other arts
muted hill
It was like 2018 or something from a dev stream we had a whole page of them but yeah I know the one
hallow ruin
the sun/god/replicator/camera thing
hallow ruin
It was like 2018 or something from a dev stream we had a whole page of them but ...
the whole page? i need to see..
muted hill
I can’t find it it had all sorts of like little doodles and tribal cave paintings
It had a tribal doodle of a theri and many other things
Someone must have it but it was years ago
But it had the sun/replicator on it
lethal moat
I see gen 1s interactions with the replicator as transactional
muted hill
the whole page? i need to see..
I GOT IT
THANK YOU PERSON FROM ISLE DISCUSSION
but there it is, the sun/replicator
echo gazelle
that’s one ancient photo
lethal moat
I hope gen 1 can still paint/mark stuff
muted hill
ITS THE SAME SUN
hallow ruin
i never ever in my life realized it exists
muted hill
It helps to be an ancient isle community member at times lmao
hallow ruin
<@623649226995400715> DOES THIS UNLOCK SOME MEMORY?!
@low scarab spoiler
|| there isnt the same ones.. but the pteras one top left is very similar, also the two under the sun/camera thing||
hallow ruin
THANK YOU PERSON FROM ISLE DISCUSSION
@whos pereon
lethal moat
ITS THE SAME SUN
And a camera in both
acoustic osprey
Oh it’s a system? I thought it was a single god like machine
well... what is an entity without its systems
even humans aren't 'technically' 'one thing'
but a combination of several parts to create the one body
it might be, though, that The Replicator is either more or less sentient then believed to be in Legacy
lethal moat
Yo Isaac, question, do you think the replicator is sentient/concious/self aware?
acoustic osprey
i have this downloaded somewhere....
we almost kinda got that replicator artwork (the camera motif) in Update 2 (only in Don's XMAS stream)
(minus the actual camera)
the actual 'modelled' artwork being more so like that one actual artwork, i think done by Tapwing
quartz sundial
i miss lore streams
lethal moat
I don’t think I’ve ever experienced a lore stream, just streams that have lore in it
quartz sundial
a looong while ago there were streams where chat could interact with AE terminals and try to uncover stuff iirc
acoustic osprey
a looong while ago there were streams where chat could interact with AE terminal...
User Inquiry ....
strange shell
Yo Isaac, question, do you think the replicator is sentient/concious/self aware?
Didn't Don say it wasn't recently (recently= <2 years) ?
lethal moat
Didn't Don say it wasn't recently (recently= <2 years) ?
I do not recall
strange shell
I'd have a hard time finding the quote
But I think it was basically someone saying the replicator had a mind of its own and Dondi answering something like "not really"
Or maybe I'm mixing things up
pine rose
trunk...
muted hill
trunk supplied the image I needed I used to have it saved
acoustic osprey
trunk supplied the image I needed I used to have it saved
it is so, it is so
acoustic osprey
But I think it was basically someone saying the replicator had a mind of its own...
Hm, maybe
i tried looking and seeing if maybe one of us talked about it using keywords in the search tab
nothing really popping up, but i'll keep looking
muted hill
I think it was mentioned to be? I know it was once mentioned to play favourites
but that was years ago
acoustic osprey
REPLICATION IN PROGRESS
GATEWAY STATUS CHECK ERROR
CHECK FIFTEENTH CYCLE
I CANNOT CHOOSE FAVORITES
although, was this The Replicator? Probably not
Don had said, iirc, it does play favourites
although, i don't think i can find a quote
knotty locust
Don had said, iirc, it does play favourites
i like the wordplay though if thats the full quote of dondi
the replicator "cannot choose favourites" and yet it does
implies the replicator has a conscience
it knows its not allowed to choose a favourite species (for example) and yet it subconsciously or intentionally replicates a certain species more than often
acoustic osprey
i think i might be misremembering
and more so assuming because you get 'rewarded' for sacrificing things
but like...
isn't that favouring?
Maybe not explicitly, but still relatively linked
unless it is a very cold way of 'favouring'
in that gen1s sacrificing things get a reward is pretty replicant of how people would teach irl AIs
a lot of Code Bullet (Aussie YTer) showcases this with his AI plays/masters "X" games
but isn't that just consciousness in a nutshell anyways... call and responses to stimuli...
knotty locust
unless it is a very cold way of 'favouring'
in that gen1s sacrificing things get...
that particular example would be interesting considering teaching the AI like that would make the replicator think that method for teaching is the perfect way since itself learnt that way
whole lot of brain and personality and big thinkering type stuff
acoustic osprey
that particular example would be interesting considering teaching the AI like th...
it is a very scientific method ...
would be of no wonder why The Replicator would do the same with Gen1s
I do hope she does though
acoustic osprey
I do hope she does though
as Don talked about it, like, in 2022
give or take
low scarab
<@623649226995400715> DOES THIS UNLOCK SOME MEMORY?!
Oh heck yea I remember the titanoboa one
low scarab
<@623649226995400715> **spoiler**
|| there isnt the same ones.. but the pteras ...
They changed them slightly in evrima I think
hallow ruin
They changed them slightly in evrima I think
love em anyways
hallow ruin
do we think skin patterns would have any lore?
or would affect lore?
cuz yk theres more than 1 pattern replicated of each dino
muted hill
I'd see it more as "hey what can we do with these species to see how it effects survival"
thus different patterns and maybe colours
hallow ruin
it kinda got 2 sides
ther IS an excuse, can be X or Y or Z (smth like what u said)
or.. there really isnt and now we have to think if theres some flaw?
hallow ruin
thus different patterns and maybe colours
hmmmm great one
muted hill
some might have come about from natural births, those inviduals were then taken in and had their DNA applied to genomes like with augustus
The way I see it is that the default colours and pattern, so pattern A, were the in universe colours of the animals in life
im interested about any and all lore for mutations
acoustic osprey
They changed them slightly in evrima I think
Yes
hallow ruin
some might have come about from natural births, those inviduals were then taken ...
that is actually a cool theory
they replicate anomalys, and not behavioural ones only but also color/pattern ones!
low scarab
im interested about any and all lore for mutations
Same
I wonder how ae planned on keeping the dinosaurs from breeding naturally
And why and how it didn’t work
muted hill
I wonder how ae planned on keeping the dinosaurs from breeding naturally
I wonder if they ever meant to avoid it?
hexed forge
I don't think they didn't want them to breed.
low scarab
I wonder if they ever meant to avoid it?
Interesting yea
muted hill
maybe im being naive but they do seem to have male and female dinosaurs
hexed forge
From what we saw so far, they do nothing to stop breeding processes.
For example, the Dibble injection, AUGUSTUS, etc.
They want it to happen IMO.
hexed forge
maybe im being naive but they do seem to have male and female dinosaurs
They do.
muted hill
yeah
I'm still curious if Rugops being a specialist man hunter (outside of giving it something unique gameplay wise) was a grim and intentional behaviour it was given or if it naturally developed a taste for people
hexed forge
That's a neat question.
I think it's more likely to be unintentional, it would be like AE stabbing itself in the foot.
But there could always be another reasoning on why they would make it intentional I guess, but to me, it seems unlikely.
muted hill
My only reason would be "Science"
acoustic osprey
I wonder how ae planned on keeping the dinosaurs from breeding naturally
We do seem dibbles nesting
So likely encouraged for injections
frozen totem
I'm still curious if Rugops being a specialist man hunter (outside of giving it ...
"These animals are not born man-eaters, they must learn at some point that we are prey. "
hallow ruin
im interested about any and all lore for mutations
sameeee
hallow ruin
I'm still curious if Rugops being a specialist man hunter (outside of giving it ...
would be cool if its lore connected to Gen1s, replicator and being a it more less of a dino and more of a replicator minion like how Gen1s are
muted hill
would be cool if its lore connected to Gen1s, replicator and being a it more les...
now THAT would be cool
hallow ruin
We do seem dibbles nesting
So likely encouraged for injections
we do also see how they cared a lot for watching it
sent multiple employees to fix the cameras, they wanted to see
frozen totem
creeps
hallow ruin
now THAT would be cool
i really like to assume its that replicator tried to do the same thing it did on Gen1s with a dinosaur (rugops) and it partially failed, maybe cuz it lacked the IQ
and then it worked better on a more humanoid thing
muted hill
I like that idea, makes it sound like an inside job kinda "How can I turn their other creations against them" type of deal
frozen totem
would be cool if its lore connected to Gen1s, replicator and being a it more les...
I think a population of rugops just got hungy and killed people then found out they were good at it and adapted
frozen totem
I like that idea, makes it sound like an inside job kinda "How can I turn their ...
although, now that you say this, the replicator turning AE's creations against them to overthrow them is a cool idea
muted hill
Technically isnt the replicator in AE creation itself?
muted hill
if it is then it would be creating creatures to fight its cause sort of if we went that route
frozen totem
mhm
hallow ruin
I think a population of rugops just got hungy and killed people then found out t...
this is how augustus did climb
but hey, thats on the surface!!
now hear me out
augustus, from AEs POV and from anyone else watching, randomly realized he could climb and did so
but what if its a thing that triggered
frozen totem
hmmmm
hallow ruin
yk what people say IRL about "all those electronics although they have random purposes, may have a connection of some sort that when they one day break out, they'll all turn on us"
i assume augustus had that
and THEREFORE
the random population of rugops had that too
frozen totem
mayhaps
hallow ruin
"oh we realized we can hunt humans"
but it was all blanned out already
hallow ruin
not untill it releases..
frozen totem
😔
torpid roost
if it is then it would be creating creatures to fight its cause sort of if we we...
Gen 1s
they sacrifice things for it, they are its pawns
muted hill
Yeah, we were theorising on rugops being something similar
muted hill
oh more than likely fun its fun to make wild theories
hallow ruin
My Body Is a cage
is becoming one of my fav songs
the more i listen to it
the more i love it, the more i just think of isle lore
hallow ruin
I really do think there's a lot of overthinking going on here. 😔
moreso having fun theorizing
lethal moat
My Body Is a cage
is becoming one of my fav songs
I’m a big fan of “Rest Employed”
hexed forge
Oh this might be new right?
I haven't seen it before. It's right next to the big ravine.
57,659.364, -166,684.815, 32,182.814
Up one of the cliffs. On the western side.
fast forge
Oh this might be new right?
I haven't seen it before. It's right next to the big...
nah it dropped a couple updates ago
hexed forge
ah never saw it
fast forge
ah never saw it
The blue dot spot right?
hexed forge
yup
torpid roost
did anyone realize cameras are on?
hexed forge
I think so
torpid roost
so this might mean Gateway is still being monitored somehow
dunno if only by gens 2 or normal humans
strange shell
dunno if only by gens 2 or normal humans
Probably Gen1s
frozen totem
/the replicator
hexed forge
Probably Gen1s
Why would it be gen1s
I feel like Gen2s are much more likely.
Being sent to AE to monitor the island as one of their main tasks.
But the replicator could be possible aswell I guess, but why not both.
echo gazelle
did anyone realize cameras are on?
I'd start to worry once they start moving
strange shell
Why would it be gen1s
Because they have nothing better to do
hexed forge
I dont think so,
I dont think they are that intelligent to use cameras.
It is just an opinion tho..
strange shell
I dont think so,
I dont think they are that intelligent to use cameras. <:TI_LUL...
wow rude
Gen 1 are people too
hexed forge
It's just silly to imagine them monitoring cameras.
strange shell
Would it be easier to imagine if they wore lab coats ?
plush widget
No way gen 1s are using cameras
frozen totem
I dont think so,
I dont think they are that intelligent to use cameras. <:TI_LUL...
I'd actually love for dondi to make an obervation sheet on the gen1s what some researcher made
testing their intelligence and the like
hexed forge
Would be amazing
plush widget
Hasn't dondi said that gen 1s are used as weapons
strange shell
If Gen1 not friend, then why is it friend-shaped ?
plush widget
To destroy rival companies?
frozen totem
Hasn't dondi said that gen 1s are used as weapons
not outright
echo gazelle
frozen totem
actually i dont remember
plush widget
Let me look for the comment
frozen totem
I think he said more like a sort of assassination method. Like drop a gen1 in your rival company's base and pick him up later like a kid at a playdate
"Ok Bahrulk, time to go home now."
"Good job tearing those men from limb to limb, you get five goats!"
strange shell
So Gen1 can actually be controlled ?
strange shell
It makes more sense that way to
plush widget
frozen totem
if they are intelligent, why not use said intelligence to your advantage
hexed forge
Hasn't dondi said that gen 1s are used as weapons
Yes
strange shell
If your objective is mass destruction without control, no bioweapon beats a grenade
frozen totem
So a sort of scare factor, yes
plush widget
So a sort of scare factor, yes
I don't think that was the right one lol
frozen totem
guh
plush widget
I need more guns here
hexed forge
I don't think they can be reliably controlled imo
frozen totem
If your objective is mass destruction without control, no bioweapon beats a gren...
But if you just want to scare your rivals off, no gun beats a genetic humanoid monstrosity.
plush widget
What are the rival companies that we know of?
plush widget
Initials even
frozen totem
dont think so
hexed forge
What are the rival companies that we know of?
OTC, F&V, EF
frozen totem
oh nvm
strange shell
But if you just want to scare your rivals off, no gun beats a genetic humanoid m...
Honestly ? I'm more scared of a hitman with a gun than some random monster
Because a monster can be killed
A hitman, if he's doing his job properly, will have me dead even before I can think of fighting back
plush widget
Honestly ? I'm more scared of a hitman with a gun than some random monster
Becau...
I don't think you are being honest here
😭
frozen totem
Honestly ? I'm more scared of a hitman with a gun than some random monster
Becau...
yes yes, but there's an uncanniness that a not-quite-but-almost-human thing gives
strange shell
yes yes, but there's an uncanniness that a not-quite-but-almost-human thing give...
I mean yeah
But it only works on an individual level
Not on a company or any form of greater organization
frozen totem
I mean yeah
But it only works on an individual level
Not on a company or any for...
but if you can get into the heads of a company's staff, company is hurt
strange shell
Monsters are only scary when you're in front of them and don't know what's going on
Companies are scared of actual threats
frozen totem
idk we'll see where don goes with it
plush widget
Has don provided a timeline for the lore release
hexed forge
If they are fast, I don't think anyone has the guts to properly aim at a 7 feet tall, hairless, rapidly moving creature and actually hit a shot.
strange shell
but if you can get into the heads of a company's staff, company is hurt
If that's the goal, putting hidden magnetophones that throw off scary noises is less expensive
plush widget
Like after/with something
frozen totem
If that's the goal, putting hidden magnetophones that throw off scary noises is ...
mayhaps
hexed forge
but if you can get into the heads of a company's staff, company is hurt
Or just damage/kill the assets of the company
frozen totem
If they are fast, I don't think anyone has the guts to properly aim at a 7 feet ...
adrenaline
frozen totem
Or just damage/kill the assets of the company
why not guns then
hexed forge
Those assets being anything from actual staff to their products/etc
frozen totem
and don said they began as a "retaliatory product"
retaliatory to what? And how do they combat that?
strange shell
My point is : bio-weapons are only useful if one of the following applies :
-They're less expensive than regular weapons for the same task
OR
-They can accomplish something a regular weapon cannot do
hexed forge
why not guns then
More reliable
frozen totem
My point is : bio-weapons are only useful if one of the following applies :
-The...
yes, and they're probably more expensive, maybe
hexed forge
My point is : bio-weapons are only useful if one of the following applies :
-The...
Gen1s are fast, stealthy, and mass-produced iirc, at least its likely. Seeing as The Replicator exists. Deimos Project wahoo
strange shell
If your goal is to kill someone, a monster is NOT more reliable than a gun.
frozen totem
then again we don't know how much a "replication" costs, if anything
hexed forge
^
hexed forge
If your goal is to kill someone, a monster is NOT more reliable than a gun.
To cause chaos
strange shell
To cause chaos
a grenade
hexed forge
Just mindlessly drop them near some important facility of the rival company and they can cause some real damage probably
hexed forge
Using actual people, risking lives, and also leaving a clear trail behind you that says "It was me who done this", is risky
strange shell
Unless a gen1 is piloting the plane used to drop the others, you're still risking lives with the airdropping monsters solution
frozen totem
what if your thing 1 escapes tho?
strange shell
what if your thing 1 escapes tho?
Exactly
Hence the reliability argument
frozen totem
a grenade can't escape into a nearby town and become a local horror story
frozen totem
hm
well they might have some sort of hive mentality with the replicator
dude i love isle lore
frozen totem
plush widget
I wonder when we are gonna get another lore video
Hope it's gonna be with the rex release
lethal moat
If your goal is to kill someone, a monster is NOT more reliable than a gun.
Are they monsters?
strange shell
Are they monsters?
They're being treated as such
frozen totem
Look at this. This is a monstrous, horrific, ugly, unlovable, fowl looking, genetic freak of man's will to play God. This is a monster
strange shell
Look at this. This is a monstrous, horrific, ugly, unlovable, fowl looking, gene...
Dude, not cool
frozen totem
sorry that was Ur Friend's grandpa you're right
strange shell
Gen 1s are one big family
lethal moat
They're being treated as such
How so
frozen totem
what bruh
lethal moat
What evidence do you have that gen 1 aren’t intelligent enough to be intelligent in their attacks
lethal moat
They still have large skulls, they’re not massive, so they can’t just brute force everything, and they’re intelligent enough to understand the correlation between killing things for the replicator and the benefits that come with it
frozen totem
Yes, and they can still be monsters despite all of that
lethal moat
monsters can be intelligent
What is a monster
frozen totem
A being(usually a creature) that is seen as either ugly, disconcerting, or frightening in some way
I'd say a gen1 fits that pretty well
google says it has to be imaginary, but, uh, no.
lethal moat
Fair enough
strange shell
What evidence do you have that gen 1 aren’t intelligent enough to be intelligent...
That was the topic of the earlier conversation
The question was "can AE control Gen1"
frozen totem
Don said they have spears and other basic tool use. Yeah they're prob smart
but how smart?
lethal moat
Don said they have spears and other basic tool use. Yeah they're prob smart
That might not be the case anymore
frozen totem
oh?
strange shell
That might not be the case anymore
Aren't there supposed to be different kinds of Gen1 ?
Some more intelligent than others ?
frozen totem
oh yeah "gen1" is a broad term isnt it
strange shell
Also I think he pretty much confirmed some of them will be able to build structures
It'd be weird if they can build houses but not craft tools
frozen totem
well he said they'd have a "spear hyuck" for fishing. At least some of them
but do they have fire?
can they roast their victims on spits?
cus that'd be epic
solemn jewel
Playing as a gen1 normal human is gonna be terrifying
strange shell
I wonder how it'll go gameplay-wise
I hope it could be some kind of evolution mechanic
You can only pick a "basic" Gen1 when you start, but you can progress into more advanced and more specialized forms
Some of which will have better cognitive abilities and crafting potential, while others will just turn into hulking beasts
frozen totem
Playing as a gen1 normal human is gonna be terrifying
wym normal human
gen1 are monstrosities
gen2 are the "normal" humans
solemn jewel
wym normal human
Then what are the normal ones
frozen totem
gen2
solemn jewel
Ok
strange shell
gen2 are the "normal" humans
define "normal"
frozen totem
not visibly going to eat your face
strange shell
not visibly going to eat your face
That's a scandalizingly narrow vision of normalcy
It's also very subjective
frozen totem
I wonder how it'll go gameplay-wise
I hope it could be some kind of evolution m...
GASP
So Don said gen1 can sacrifice things to the replicator in return for a form of reward to them/ Perhaps that reward can be intelligence?
frozen totem
That's a scandalizingly narrow vision of normalcy
fair
but like, john cake LOOKS like a normal dude
He looks like a homo sapien
strange shell
*GASP*
So Don said gen1 can sacrifice things to the replicator in return for a ...
Or the other way around
Different evolution paths lead to different forms
Some of which could be completely incapable of even basic crafting, but in turn able to kill dinos bare-handed
lethal moat
Aren't there supposed to be different kinds of Gen1 ?
Some more intelligent than...
Mhm
strange shell
but like, john cake *LOOKS* like a normal dude
Don't judge people by their appearances
Just because YOUR culture has strict criteria of what's considered a normal appearance doesn't mean anyone not meeting these criteria is a monster
Not having eyes is normal for a Gen1
frozen totem
Don't judge people by their appearances
Just because *YOUR* culture has strict c...
ok yeah. But like you know what i mean
it aint that deep bubble man 😭
strange shell
ok yeah. But like you know what i mean
I know you're trying to alienize a certain kind of people because you're scared they'd "eat your face"
Well eating others faces is part of their culture, have some respect
torpid roost
I wonder how it'll go gameplay-wise
I hope it could be some kind of evolution m...
dinos have to grow to become stronger, gen2 have to loot to become stronger and Gen1s might have to sacrifice and bring bodies to replicator to get upgrades
ionic fog
I wonder how it'll go gameplay-wise
I hope it could be some kind of evolution m...
Have you ever played Ancestor: the humankind odyssey? This kind of feels like what you were looking for in gen 1 lol
Start as true monkey feral gen 1 creature, eventually learn skills and crafting by banging rocks together, finding new foods and hunting techniques
strange shell
I haven't played it
ionic fog
You should give it a look, at least on yt, you described its gameplay in uncanny detail
It would be a cool thing for isle gen 1 ngl
acoustic osprey
I wonder when we are gonna get another lore video
acoustic osprey
did anyone realize cameras are on?
it might change once we get some weathering checks done around all the assets and models, presuming it will occur with all custom assets?
to be fair though
when we see a lot of assets in P2 during and before update 4
basically all of them were weathered
maybe this signifies these cameras are new in terms of 'in lore'?
or potentially, mayhaps, they're to indicate that Gen2s will be using CCTVs and placing them around buildings to monitor easily
(henceforth, no 'weathered' models because all CCTVs will be used in the future by players?)
acoustic osprey
we do also see how they cared a lot for watching it
sent multiple employees to f...
well, only one — to what we know
then, afterwards, they (in-lore) would've had a replicant "Lore Hunt" finding the TCAM
however big the team was
Recovery operations for source material complete
hexed forge
Hm,
Were there multiple operations to recover the camera?
acoustic osprey
We see it with AUGUSTUS aswell iirc
technically, yeah
although, i suppose, we don't really know how natural the environment was
just that they were 'natural off-spring'
but still, none the less
acoustic osprey
Hm,
Were there multiple operations to recover the camera?
best way, for us to know, is just to use the descriptions for the videos
hexed forge
Well yeah that is what I'm referring to
acoustic osprey
. . . . //
isle ███. File retrieved from ARCHIVE (7). Recovery operations for source material is ongoing.
first video
hexed forge
"Operations"
Indicating more than one, I think
acoustic osprey
. . . . //
█ Usgx-9921-c578 (B) isle ███. Recovery operations for source material complete. File archived.
Second
hexed forge
Previous operations(Teams? Gen2s) were all eaten by Shirley sorry
acoustic osprey
it may have been a party or two, in my opinion
acoustic osprey
they had the data they needed prior
so i don't believe they needed a full on team to find the TCAM
hexed forge
Yeah definitely
acoustic osprey
but still, none the less
We still see "live" that Herreras contain the same anomalous behaviour
So, it is quite likely that the natural off spring stayed on the island and likely without needing to be taken into a facility
hexed forge
Mhm
acoustic osprey
but yeah
i suppose we must wait till the next lore drop
whether video, glance sheet or full on lore document
hexed forge
hahah...soon
acoustic osprey
hahah...soon
finite linden
I have a lore theory: the dev team are making real dinosaurs while making the game which is why everything takes so long
hexed forge
thanks
lethal moat
I have a lore theory: the dev team are making real dinosaurs while making the ga...
Jokes on you, they’re not dinosaurs
frank violet
Tomorrow night is the night the devs drop the long awaited poop mechanic
finite linden
Tomorrow night is the night the devs drop the long awaited poop mechanic
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
i can finnally shyt in the isle
some nerd is 66 million years is going to sweat over finding my fossilized dispensery
frozen totem
what
frozen totem
some nerd is 66 million years is going to sweat over finding my fossilized dispe...
blud thinks the isle takes place 66 million years ago 🤣
finite linden
it was a joke for comedic effect meant to invoke a chuckle perhaps a slight giggle
frozen totem
it didn't 😕
finite linden
aw man
finite linden
dam that sucks for you :(
torpid roost
Tomorrow night is the night the devs drop the long awaited poop mechanic
dont think its confirmed
lethal moat
dont think its confirmed
Poop mechanic is confirmed, no etas tho
tardy valley
Tomorrow night is the night the devs drop the long awaited poop mechanic
will i be able to eat rex poop as a troodon?
hallow ruin
> . . . . //
>
> █ Usgx-9921-c578 (B) isle ███. Recovery operations for source...
lore.
storm onyx
https://tenor.com/view/its-been84years-titanic-rose-dawson-gif-5372593
this woman made me so angry omg
shes giving me pstd
acoustic osprey
Yall remember when we got the Augustus video
I still remember the day!
I was at my friends house
Unironically I was at his house the same day the dibble video came out
And I don't visit him a lot
So it was quite a funny moment
rare wadi
717 mean anything significant? Its painted on the northern fence line gate
knotty locust
717 mean anything significant? Its painted on the northern fence line gate
probably just fence/boundary line number
been there a long time
hallow ruin
And I don't visit him *a lot*
So it was quite a funny moment
visit him asap
not for me, but for shirley and dean 🙏
acoustic osprey
717 mean anything significant? Its painted on the northern fence line gate
Ha ha....
fast forge
poop is coming to the isle?
probably some day, yes
it will be random and uncontrollable, like how a horse or deer just kinda drops stuff and keeps walking
it will be used for tracking
torpid roost
probably some day, yes
it will be random and uncontrollable, like how a horse o...
dam, i suggested this months ago and almost everyone disagreed with me, and now its becoming real wow #general-feedback message
fast forge
dam, i suggested this months ago and almost everyone disagreed with me, and now ...
it's been a concept the devs have thrown around for a few years now I think
frozen totem
poop is coming to the isle?
sorta at some point maybe
so anyways what happened to those paved roads we had
granite ore
so anyways what happened to those paved roads we had
They’re currently dirt roads, right?
frozen totem
yes, all of em
kindred bobcat
i suppose we must wait till the next lore drop
whether video, *glance sheet* or ...
will you still be alive then?
acoustic osprey
will you still be alive then?
yes and no
my conscious will have been placed inside The TOMB via TOMB PROTOCOL:~2
acoustic osprey
so anyways what happened to those paved roads we had
they were weirdly placed in-game
I presume we might get 'weathered' roads coming soon though
or just roads, at the very least
frozen totem
Ooh
acoustic osprey
but it depends
I mean, every 'base' has cement foundations
and The Atrium is literally... cement
mystic wedge
Did the dinosaurs build the ranger stations? just thinking because theres dinosaurs around so it would be logical for them to build them
acoustic osprey
so they should have had money to make roads
Especially for ease of transport within the island
acoustic osprey
Did the dinosaurs build the ranger stations? just thinking because theres dinosa...
99.999% likely no
most likely contracted persons
i doubt they used Gen2s as 'slaves' to build whatever AE wanted
mystic wedge
most likely contracted persons
How they not die while building those stations
acoustic osprey
How they not die while building those stations
presumably making it prior to putting tons of dinos on there, i'd say
or sectioning off "X" areas from the dinos to allow AE to build
mystic wedge
presumably making it prior to putting tons of dinos on there, i'd say
or section...
Were the dinos naturally sourced and vegan?
acoustic osprey
Were the dinos naturally sourced and vegan?
acoustic osprey
no idea
i am curious on how Gen2s and normal humans conducted work
Could Gen2s be considered slaves to ae? indentured servitude?
mystic wedge
Whats difference between g2 and normal humans?
is g1 the crazy white mutant monsters
acoustic osprey
Whats difference between g2 and normal humans?
Realistically
one is (at least the body) made by AE
and the other is just normal people, presumably
likely contracted and (for what we do know) act under expatriation
frozen totem
How they not die while building those stations
Did Ingen build their facilites before or after they made dinsoaurs?
acoustic osprey
^
lethal moat
The lore tag is doing wonders for recruitment efforts
acoustic osprey
The lore tag is doing wonders for recruitment efforts
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last birch
What year is The Isle happening in?
acoustic osprey
^ we only have 2 rough guesses
well, not guesses
but 'potential' dates
and one of them is quite likely just red herring/placeholder
that being 2172 and 1994-1999
1994-1999 being a date range from the Living Roadmap
which isn't indicative of when we are playing though
just a date range of some time when AE was active
and that date might just be for when AE first started using AE SOFTWARE, Inc
Which means they could go further back in time as well
lethal moat
just a date range of some time when AE was active
and that date might just be fo...
Mhm, it’s likely significantly later given the islands have been abandoned
acoustic osprey
yeah
Give or take, 20-40 years potentially
maybe a bit earlier...
but we have to see what the final weathering level will be for Gateway
however
there is a potential that, though, each 'map' might be during a different time on 'the timeline of lore'
potentially, that is.
It depends on how hard Dondi wants to go with that or not
Seeing as it is, still, pretty hard to fully commit to 100% lore in-game (in the worldbuilding sense)
just cause there are soo many things you might have to change around, fix and/or remove
etc
last birch
Okay so if it's after the late 90's, let's say it's a gap between 1998 and 2000's.
Looking logically at the fact of in-game human-made structures and equipment, we could add another couple years like 3 or 5. Buildings are very well developed and the security checkpoint and systems seen in-game on Gateway map can tell us it might be something between 2000's to 2010's. But not anything above the 2010.
lethal moat
We really don’t know tbh
last birch
In the youtube videos of human gameplay in The Isle, developers gave humans a MP-412 Rex looking revolver that was designed in 1993 by Russians.
It never did enter the production tho.
So we can guess the Revolver was customly and privately producted for the equipment of security forces of the corporation that worked on the island. For that we could give some additional years I guess so it's around mid 1990's and late 1990's. Maybe 2000's.
last birch
acoustic osprey
completely forgot that VisualTech actually told us what it is based on, for some context
last birch
Yeah the Picantinny railing on the weapons were introduced in the late 1980's and early 1990's but seeing the pistol that I guess is a hybrid of something between P226, H&K UCP45 and MP443 Grach it gives me the vibes of mid and late 2010's.
lethal moat
Could be
last birch
The bandoliers on the other hand
the shotgun ones are fine I think but the leather ones are the French/British rifle bandoliers that were used during the First World War.
Thus the rifle bandoliers do put me in a slight confussion.
Those bandoliers were used in early stages of the first world war.
acoustic osprey
could be via surplus
last birch
Looking at the shotgun, it looks either like a Mossberg 500, Baikal MP133 or Remington 870.
last birch
could be via surplus
I'm pretty sure the surplus would not have alot of those as many would be reproduction I believe.
last birch
Looking at the shotgun, it looks either like a Mossberg 500, Baikal MP133 or Rem...
Baikal MP133
Remington 870
Mossberg 500
it's really hard to tell which one of those is it as shotguns can be heavily modified as any other firearm.
last birch
The bolt action rifle is quite easy to recognize. It's a M24 Bolt Action Sniper Rifle.
It's a military adaptation of the civilian model under the name of Remington 700.
I just realised that I've explained and recognized the firearms on the channel that's supposed to make theories.
acoustic osprey
mayhaps
lethal moat
I just realised that I've explained and recognized the firearms on the channel t...
You’re good lol
acoustic osprey
not as bad as what we typically talk about
last birch
The question is, where's Gateway located over at. African islands? Pacific? Salomon islands? North - South American Islands?
That would be important as to climate changes over the year seasons and what part of the globe they're located at.
And most importantly it would come up to the surplus that the security would use, along the weapons, vehicles and such.
acoustic osprey
The question is, where's Gateway located over at. African islands? Pacific? Salo...
we... honestly don't really know
as there's different factors that point to different places lol
skybox is northern finland/top of norway (definitely not intended though)
botany has a good amount of southern american plants
Environment is likely quite tropical, but also a bit weird. Especially with highlands
last birch
Of course, they could be armed with AK family rifles if they're over at the American Island, African Islands.
The AR family rifles or ACR would be issued to American, African and Pacific since they would be left out behind or just be sold from over stocking of the local militaries.
acoustic osprey
but if anything
South America is a good pick
Maybe somewhere near South Easia Asia and eastward in the pacific potentially
last birch
Since Netherlands have colonies at the South/North American Islands.
ACR and AR rifles are familiar and way different at the same time. We can show that in one simple example.
M16A4, AR family (Assault Rifle).
FN SCAR-L and SCAR-H, ACR family.
the ACR rifle families have different build up system and charging bolt placement.
hallow ruin
yeah
Give or take, 20-40 years potentially
maybe a bit earlier...
but we have t...
what if dinos growth speed is canon, same for plants
and that the isle really feels left behind for yeas when its actually just couple months..
last birch
The new rifle of the Polish Military, GROT C16, is from the ACR family.
The Salomon Islands could be equipped with basically anything tbh.
looking at the stock contaiments
Along with the surplus, the regions of Pacific, South America and North America would have American and Canadian surplus availble, along with the South American countries militaries gear.
Pacific would mainly have American and Japanese equipment tho.
African Islands would have European, Russian, French and British surplus, but mainly the old one.
And maybe some surplus from african countries.
and maybe some south american since the communists were in africa for quite a time
and again at the salomon islands, not much, basically everything but the new zealand, japanese, singapour and other surplus would be availble
to be honest, I know what a vehicle could be good for the isle, not really matter where the gateway is placed on the geographical map
the Maltese jeep. I've driven in one of those while my winter holiday stay on Malta with my family.
they're cheap, easy to fix and construct
and have a good suspension
sadly, it doesn't go very fast.
acoustic osprey
the Maltese jeep. I've driven in one of those while my winter holiday stay on Ma...
ah, these ones
I have only been on these once or twice, back when i was visiting family in Malta many years ago
last birch
but it withstands the Gozo very good
acoustic osprey
but they're the Suzuki SJ Samurai
last birch
ah, these ones
I have only been on these once or twice, back when i was visiting...
Yeah, my trip was with the Polish guide tours of course, and I was driving in the front
acoustic osprey
Yeah, my trip was with the Polish guide tours of course, and I was driving in th...
nice
last birch
these jeeps could be a good vehicle example for the game if humans will be added in the next, i don't know, 25 years lol
Also, the question is.
How can a dinosaur enter easily a building/bunker that is closed and requires pushign down a handle to enter
lethal moat
How can a dinosaur enter easily a building/bunker that is closed and requires pu...
Someone opens it for them
last birch
Someone opens it for them
lol
lethal moat
I’m serious
They either break their way in, they’re supposed to be there, or a saboteur causes shenanigans
lethal moat
Bunker dor go brrrrrrrt
last birch
Yeah now watch The Isle slowly become a MilSim game such as Arma after adding humans
acoustic osprey
lol
lethal moat
Yeah now watch The Isle slowly become a MilSim game such as Arma after adding hu...
It’s been compared to DayZ
acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
Woohoo!
lethal moat
I'm feeling lore today
Manifest the lore
jade whale
and the isle erivma blue
Because they basically made a completely new game? And they thought blue looked better? Idk 😅😂 maybe because evrima is newer and blue probably looks more modern
echo gazelle
and the isle erivma blue
Don’t know if there’s any real significance, more so to fit the aesthetic of the re-development
deep forge
EU2 in horde its 3x growth?
nimble fractal
EU2 in horde its 3x growth?
Wrong chat, and no
fast forge
EU2 in horde its 3x growth?
that was for a few hours, like 5 days ago
it's over
deep forge
Wrong chat, and no
Sry and thx
acoustic osprey
that was for a few hours, like 5 days ago
it's over
apparently people were getting it still yesterday
acoustic osprey
why is the isle legacy loading screen green
pretty much to signify the change of lore going into recode
fast forge
apparently people were getting it still yesterday
oh
acoustic osprey
trustworthy people like Smea and Silence as well
i didn't try it myself though
was NA3
hallow ruin
that was for a few hours, like 5 days ago
it's over
this morning too
tiny zenith
probably some day, yes
it will be random and uncontrollable, like how a horse o...
like in ark survival evolved?
frozen totem
maybe, probably not an animation or anything
How I would do it is it just appears on the ground as a decal or something under your animal
low scarab
What ever happened to trying out non euclidean stuff w guts tunnels
frozen totem
what
acoustic osprey
What ever happened to trying out non euclidean stuff w guts tunnels
Don answered, not happening anymore iirc
I'll try and find the quote
acoustic osprey
Here is the quote exactly
so yeah, wouldn't say it has been fully scrapped
But likely we won't get it anymore
frozen totem
euclidean?
frozen totem
ah
acoustic osprey
"X" tunnel appears to be 10m from the outside
but inside, you only walk 5m (or anything less OR more)
frozen totem
*google.....* 😔
i googled it but it made no sense
it had kind of a circular definition
acoustic osprey
no
frozen totem
so how would that work in the isle
acoustic osprey
non-euclidean
- any geometry that does not adhere to the axioms of Euclidean geometry
therefore what is euclidean
- relating to or denoting the system of geometry based on the work of Euclid
frozen totem
/why would you have it
acoustic osprey
"X" tunnel appears to be 10m from the outside
but inside, you only walk 5m (or a...
@frozen totem
in the context of GUTS
frozen totem
"X" tunnel appears to be 10m from the outside
but inside, you only walk 5m (or a...
yes but for why would you do this
acoustic osprey
to save distance times basically
because, realistically, GUTS would and could be the size of Gateway
i.e. a lot of tunnels... a lot of walking from place to place
frozen totem
right
seems like it would be absolute hell to get working tho, so i can see why don isnt doing it
or what he said non euclidean
im dumb
or tired
or both
acoustic osprey
seems like it would be absolute hell to get working tho, so i can see why don is...
exactly
acoustic osprey
i can imagine it being either taxing on the server
being too much to program for something that isn't necessary
and/or not working as intended
acoustic osprey
like how do you work that in multiplayer
Mmmm
blazing marten
.
lapis ember
I don’t know how much legacy is apart of the lore anymore, however the Isle V3 map gives me Aleutian Islands vibes: mountainous terrain, conifers, somewhat cold weather, isolated condition. Until proven otherwise V3 is an Aleutian Island for my head canon lol.
This image (not taken by me) looks a lot like the jagged coast of V3 west of the radio tower. I know that design was mostly unintentional since it’s unfinished but I can’t help but notice
acoustic osprey
wouldn't be surprised
although maybe a bit too north?
Seeing as the mountains never got to the point of having any snow on them
however, can be easily ignored
but on the topic of Legacy lore correlating to Evrima lore
we don't know much, in terms of hard definitions for what is and isn't canon
but a fair portion of it ain't coming back - that being via and related to Phoenix International / Primal Carnage stuff
but the rest? who knows, truly.
Besides what we have right now that might contradict legacy lore
acoustic osprey
It would honestly be killer if we got a v3 remaster
echo gazelle
Has anyone been marking the locations of each supposed GUTS entry on the Grid Map ?
acoustic osprey
not really
acoustic osprey
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20200618T18&p0=76&msg=EVRIMA+PUBLIC+LAUNCH&font=sanserif&csz=1
Time to celebrate some lore in exactly 9 hours
I'll likely do some loring on stream
In the meantime, i must hit the hay
frozen totem
whats in 9 hours
plush widget
Do the little lights mean there is still power?
plush widget
Also little clock here
frozen totem
yeah none of them are accurate tho
echo gazelle
yeah geothermal also there’s solar panels on top of some outpost buildings
plush widget
yeah geothermal also there’s solar panels on top of some outpost buildings
Are there
never noticed them
frozen totem
yeah geothermal also there’s solar panels on top of some outpost buildings
true
plush widget
theres a lot of lights on in gateway
True, but ive never seen a computer "Alive"
frozen totem
I wonder if AE used nuclear energy
frozen totem
True, but ive never seen a computer "Alive"
there'll be some on eventually
plush widget
All of the desktops in the bases are dead arent they
frozen totem
I think there were a couple running at some point in gateway
also they might not be dead, just off
plush widget
also they might not be dead, just off
Why would they be turned off
plush widget
uhm
frozen totem
goes to sleep after a while
frozen totem
tell
acoustic osprey
Evrima anniversary 😔
frozen totem
im ingorant and uninformed
frozen totem
Evrima anniversary 😔
oohhh
acoustic osprey
5 years
frozen totem
well I know that
acoustic osprey
Unless
frozen totem
Is there supposed to be lore or smth? Or are you just covering all evrima lore
acoustic osprey
Do the little lights mean there is still power?
Yes and no
Could just be 'on' till humans get proper gameplay
acoustic osprey
I'll likely do some loring on stream
In the meantime, i must hit the hay
^
acoustic osprey
Yay
plush widget
Yes and no
Could just be 'on' till humans get proper gameplay
Ah, and then be turned off?
Could humans repair and use the computers?
frozen totem
maybe
I believe it was talked about at one point for gen2 to be able to repair structures
plush widget
I also remember someone telling me that gen 2s will be able to repair bases
Don't know about electronics tho
It looks like we will be able to place cameras down tho???
And monitor trail cams
Would be sick
Capture animals
frozen totem
fr
plush widget
Wonder when we are gonna get an update on gen 2s
The last time dondi showed them, before the start of this hordetest, there were new guns
hallow ruin
once elders are in, humans will become a main focus
is that a real qoute?!
frozen totem
something like it
once dinosaurs have all their main universal mechanics, humans can be focused on
lethal moat
https://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20200618T18&p0=76&msg=EVRIMA+P...
Feel free to make an announcement in lorecord
You already did lol, my bad
fast forge
so we are like 3 hours away from the 5-year anniversary?
plush widget
Doubt it
frozen totem
Singular anti-erosion triangle a little ways into the jungle at south east coast
prisma crown
lore
acoustic osprey
Singular anti-erosion triangle a little ways into the jungle at south east coast
lol
snow jasper
Singular anti-erosion triangle a little ways into the jungle at south east coast
fell out of a truck
acoustic osprey
from: 601609613594460170
frozen totem
thats what i did why does it work now
acoustic osprey
lol
fast forge
thats what i did why does it work now
it does this to me every time, I always gotta mess with it to find the right formatting for discord to accept it
frozen totem
hmm
coarse saddle
When is update dropping anyone ??
frozen totem
firstly, wrong channel. secondly, no ETAs read the rules
coarse saddle
Oh ye lol I clicked wrong one
sonic rampart
This channel is for discussing lore
dire notch
oh ok my bad
snow jasper
lol
gaunt dawn
This game has lore?
acoustic osprey
This game has lore?
Yes
gaunt dawn
Woah
tulip coral
This game has?
acoustic osprey
This game has?
nimble fractal
zinc oak
this game?
snow jasper
this?
tulip coral
?
acoustic osprey
I am quite 50/50 on TheHunter series
i found myself logging in more hours on Primal than Call of The Wild
however, i want to take some notes on why I prefer Primal over CotW
nimble fractal
lore..
acoustic osprey
for THE RESERVE
nimble fractal
LORE!!!
acoustic osprey
because, honestly, I am bit curious on what i/we should aim for for that map
if it comes down to us having to mod it in
nimble fractal
We should make it a hardcore survival for dinosaurs
And give humans all ways/guns to catch and kill the dinos (except the OP ones)
acoustic osprey
We should make it a hardcore survival for dinosaurs
And give humans all ways/gun...
all i want is an all human Dino-Hunting experience !
nimble fractal
Exactly!
acoustic osprey
i don't mind if it is only human-only playable...
unless dinos are playable but knowingly know that they are 'the hunt'