isle-lore-theories

[bright shoal]

Is this new?

[hexed forge]

New this Hordetest yes

[acoustic osprey]

^
but not patch

i mean
the Roman Empire was mostly illiterate, but still could do work

[hexed forge]

Also Im bummed out how it just leads into an average GUTS entrance made for vehicles lol. You could see the "Stop" marking on the road.
Hopefully Vis fixes that up into something more unique

[bright shoal]

ive seen the beaches and the savanna but came across this at swamp and had to follow it

[acoustic osprey]

we don't really know what work they could do, that is Gen2s

all we see, as a potential, is them switching up TCAMs

if that was a Gen2...

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

[bright shoal]

yeah i saw that too just needs the floor piece swapped out to a blank one i feel and im sure that entrance isnt complete since we cant enter it.

[hexed forge]

Different times harry, different times.
I won't be surprised if their tasks are handed to them via a tablet.. of some sorts..
Unless it's some starwars stuff and they are like a "hivemind"

[acoustic osprey]

Depends
we just don't know... yet

of course, that is once Gen2s properly have gameplay
then maybe we know

[fast forge]

I think it's an interesting landmark that also functions to show the player how to access the cliffs alongside the dome, above the swamp (go up the road next to the pipes)

[hexed forge]

We'll find out soon!!!!- TM...

[acoustic osprey]

we do know that Gen2s that we play as DON'T have quests
so... there is something

(unless Don changes his mind)

[hexed forge]

HOPEFULLY

[tropic saddle]

When yall say gen2's yall are referring to humans right?

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
i am all up for sandbox-type gameplay survival for The Isle

[fast forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[hexed forge]

Like I don't want it to be MANDATORY to do as a Gen2.
But it would be a fun side-thing that players could do so they can interact with their world.

[fast forge]

but technically not humans like us in real life

[acoustic osprey]

but... we need the tools
all sandboxes NEED tools (things to do)

[hexed forge]

We need stuff to do to keep gameplay going imo...

[tropic saddle]

I feel like they will make it so players create their own sorta quests.

[acoustic osprey]

Quests would be one route
but... i just have to hope

[acoustic osprey]

stuff like that can get boring, because it does not promote a gameplay loop
unless done right
which needs tools

[hexed forge]

Everyplayer's mind:

Get a gun. Shoot dinosaur. Yay.

[bright shoal]

i did see the pipes are broken but still sealed off so i wonder if thats temporary to keep us out for now or if it was broken and repaired/sealed shut in world. i love the map getting more filled out.

[tropic saddle]

Well yeah I figured there would be tools and possibly a ultimate goal or something to do.

[acoustic osprey]

from the sounds of what Don said on stream a while back... i have less hope than i have had

[tropic saddle]

Not just run around killing dino's

If it is that,
my dissappointment will be immeasurable

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
Don didn't go on a whole thing about it, so he didn't get to properly talk about it.

[hexed forge]

Find or spawn in with an AE tablet.
You login as your EIP (Just an automatic thing that could work similar to legacy with steamIDs and such.)

And tadah! You can find your logs, potential "Quests" that you could do, maybe even a map-?

[fast forge]

Didn't he say that gen 2 will have some way to "win" the game? or something?

[tropic saddle]

First quest: Find pumpkins.

[hexed forge]

He did say that before yeah

But that was just an idea

[acoustic osprey]

that was an idea he said some time ago iirc
like shutting off the server

[hexed forge]

Not a promised 100% thing

[hexed forge]

Exactly
Would be fun.
Kind of like shutting down the replicator

[tropic saddle]

I dont think the isle needs a win condition tbf

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/frenzied-flame-elden-ring-yellow-fire-gif-26882769

[fast forge]

I remember that, I think this was something else

[tropic saddle]

maybe a "event"

[hexed forge]

Shutting off the replicator thus stopping any creature from spawning. Basically manually shutting down the server and restarting it.

Popular idea that I like imo

[acoustic osprey]

kinda
would just be annoying for most people imo
depending on how it affects people though

[tropic saddle]

Yeahhhhh but they better make it mad hard to do otherwise no ones gonna have a fun time

[acoustic osprey]

making it THE Lore Hunt 🥰

[hexed forge]

I'm hoping for there to be some.. "Lore/Story" servers.
With lore canon rosters on each map.. could be fun.. but I'm not sure how many would play on that..

[acoustic osprey]

several rabbit holes
months of finding out different clues

[tropic saddle]

I was still holding out hope that humans would be introduced and could capture dinos and so on.

[acoustic osprey]

the best way to do something like this is to make the community involved
like the last lore hunt

[hexed forge]

Indeed

[hexed forge]

I really don't like the idea of gen2s being able to capture dinos imo

[acoustic osprey]

i dislike the idea of capturing
doesn't work in a multiplayer scenario in my opinion

being trapped by another person is just not fun
especially since a lot of people don't roleplay

The Isle Singleplayer WOULD and should have something like capturing
it would 100% work

[tropic saddle]

If there's ways for said play to break out then it could be interesting

[hexed forge]

Yeahhh took us 3 days to find something really easy!!! (If you look at the clues properly...which we all overlooked...)

[acoustic osprey]

it is just on that line of being annoying for most people

[hexed forge]

^

I won't be against being able to capture like a compy or ptero for example lol
Since thats AI.

[tropic saddle]

I feel that, but there's definetly way's to balance. Imo it's one of the more interesting routes rather than just having humans run around with 50 cals

[acoustic osprey]

kinda
i feel like it promotes the wrong idea
being that we should be antagonistic towards dinosaurs

[hexed forge]

Would you rather just be done with it and just die.
Or be captured for god knows how long... only to "try" to escape and get shot by the human either way..

[tropic saddle]

would rather be captured but that's me

[bright shoal]

or just make the AI dinos captureable even if temporary, but i think that idea was thrown out now. sad. old tribal concepts were so cool.

[acoustic osprey]

the only 'capturing' we have now is temporary abductions from Gen1s

Gen1s temporarily abducting Gen2s

[hexed forge]

They end up sacrificed..

[tropic saddle]

gen1's being the mutants or whatever

[acoustic osprey]

it depends on how it is done
if you can make it a simple mini-game like a 'lock-pick'-esque system, it could work
what becomes the point of capturing anyways?

[acoustic osprey]

BURN

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[hexed forge]

True

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't mind AI Dinos being capturable
or, if anything, trackable

because having all dinosaurs trackable is... yeah, not going to work very well.

[hexed forge]

Oh I wouldn't mind even players being trackable.
Specifically the ones who manually spawned in.

[bright shoal]

The Isle singleplayer campaign survive, craft, tame, die, replicate, escape.

[acoustic osprey]

'5 dinos in south plains'

for me, it promotes 'here are some real people, go and shoot them now'

[tropic saddle]

I always envisioned in my head that the humans would capture and study said dinosaurs for their mutations (for what reason idk havent thought of one) one reason for mutation is it makes humans target larger dino species rather than babies.

do experiments or tests or whatever.

[acoustic osprey]

if we get the Dibble video tracking
then you can just get one person on call at a base just telling you where "X" dino is

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't mind this, but preferably for AI dinosaurs
if anything

especially seeing that 'capturing' is basically off the table as we know it

[hexed forge]

True but it's just neat,
If it doesn't come officially I would want a MOD immediately

[acoustic osprey]

if anything, we might be getting something similar
but without the capturing bit, Pouchy

[tropic saddle]

It's just what I had in mind for human gameplay.

I just dont like the idea of humans running around killing dino's to me that takes away from what the game is now.

[acoustic osprey]

sometimes you must balance over fun 😔

[tropic saddle]

We hope so.
I just assumed capturing due to the enclosures and cages and possible trucks

[hexed forge]

You could make it challenging to even make the tracker working.

Maybe you gotta fix the radio tower, oh and this only covers x area of the island, oh what if the tracker needs batteries! Oh what if- etc.

[acoustic osprey]

then you get a reward with no downsides
just that it is a bit of a maintance-thingo

[hexed forge]

But then you could have a team of like 5-10 people making it all work and take over the server lol.

But at that point, the effort is respected..

[acoustic osprey]

i just feel like having a system that tells you where everyone is is a bit annoying for dino players

it, being, quite literally, ESP.

a bit of a step in the direction that still promotes needless killing

[hexed forge]

Well IF you get a reward..
We don't know how harsh human gameplay might be. There will be specialized human hunters... maybe even as AI..

[acoustic osprey]

the reward would be that you get to see everyone, everywhere

[hexed forge]

oh

Temporarily tho !!

[acoustic osprey]

how temporarily? Most people spawn in the game

[hexed forge]

Batteries on the tracker

Could make them run out in like 5 minutes

[acoustic osprey]

it sounds finicky
and very situation based

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dream-gif-4575645

It's neat.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/chocolatier-willy-wonka-charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory-christopher-lee-johnny-depp-gif-13224869455340254068

i much prefer it for AI, that is all

[tropic saddle]

Ai does make sense for alot of stuff.

It will be interesting to see how humans are played out

[acoustic osprey]

lettuce make AI Lorecordians

[tropic saddle]

I just seriously hope it's not mindless killing

cause at the end of the day it's supposed to be a horror pvp game

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-movie-emmet-howdy-guys-come-sit-on-me-cowboy-gif-60076264887171343

[tropic saddle]

humans are gonna be at the bottom

[hexed forge]

Then you must also account for the chance and the risk of someone finding, identifying (Noticing what that Dino is), and then shooting it if you can...
Theres so many risk factor that I feel like could make it work..

[hexed forge]

pvp game

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
no matter what dino it is

a gun still shoots
and most dinos will fall very easily

[tropic saddle]

Nah it's meant to be a horror game.

[acoustic osprey]

unless they greatly diminish guns

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-iron-man-is-it-too-much-to-ask-for-both-best-of-both-worlds-why-not-both-gif-3787079

[acoustic osprey]

if anything
PvPvE survival horror

[tropic saddle]

PvP is just a plus

[hexed forge]

And a dino has third person point of view, superior sight/nightvision, superior scent (Devs hinted at dinos being able to smell humans from afar), etc

[hexed forge]

YOU said pvp game, is what I was referring to

[acoustic osprey]

survival promotes PvE
multiplayer promotes PvP (the ecosystem is very PvP, and I would say important for this type of game)

[tropic saddle]

you got my brain confused.

[acoustic osprey]

fried mayhaps

like of the french kind

[hexed forge]

Try spotting the dino in those large bushes as a human. Those bushes are nothing for a player on a dino, but a human?

[tropic saddle]

Im not against the pvp I was just saying it was a horror pvp game and they blurted back with pvp game so I thought they meant it was "Just" a pvp game

[acoustic osprey]

how can we forigve you

[tropic saddle]

and I agree this game survives off of PvP very neccessary.

[hexed forge]

No,
I was intending to make you question the title "PVP game"

[tropic saddle]

but it needs more horror elements

[hexed forge]

Point is,

THERES SO MANY FACTORS

https://tenor.com/view/ian-malcolm-jurassic-park-talking-gif-24637905

[fast forge]

humans stinky

[hexed forge]

oh

[fast forge]

that's chaos theory

[acoustic osprey]

like chaos theory
so many

THANKS TINY

like chaos theory
so many factoids
FRACTALS

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-jurassic-gif-7496067

[fast forge]

I just watched the movie last friday

apparently it's free on youtube?

[hexed forge]

I have both of those GIFs favorited next to eachother lol

[acoustic osprey]

in the US

[fast forge]

ahh

[hexed forge]

Free with ads

[fast forge]

I pay for youtube premium so no ads for me

[hexed forge]

3 too

[acoustic osprey]

youtube has 20 sec long ads now 🥰

[fast forge]

or at least I don't remember ads...

[acoustic osprey]

no, 3 three

[fast forge]

3 fore

[hexed forge]

Can't believe they registered Jurassic Park as an OLD Movie so its FREE now

I take it as an insult

[fast forge]

it's more than 3 decades old

[hexed forge]

It's too good for an old movie

[fast forge]

lots of old movies are great

[hexed forge]

Like they didn't make Star Wars free

[fast forge]

the original Alien was made in 1979, it's older than me

[hexed forge]

The OG series that is

[hexed forge]

Indeed

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

oh the amount of people saying Britain was JAPAN in islereddit
the comedy

[rigid tartan]

Well Japan was heavily influenced by the British but never owned by them. Though the British tried

[acoustic osprey]

this britain, sorry

[strange shell]

Name one country the british didn't try to own

(Actually I think there's 5 such countries in the entire world)

[rigid tartan]

You can probably find that via history books

[strange shell]

mb there's 22

• Andorra
• Belarus
• Bolivia
• Burundi
• Central African Republic
• Chad
• Republic of Congo
• Guatemala
• Ivory Coast
• Kyrgyzstan
• Liechtenstein
• Luxembourg
• Mali
• Marshall Islands
• Monaco
• Mongolia
• Paraguay
• Sao Tome and Principe
• Sweden
• Tajikistan
• Uzbekistan
• Vatican City

[rigid tartan]

Ok

[hallow ruin]

this is not isle lore

[strange shell]

It is
Because it means britain attempted to invade Gateway at least once since it's not on the above list

[rigid tartan]

No. I was just replying to Walter cause I thought he was taking about something else and not the Isle isle.

[hallow ruin]

oh thats crazy LMAO

[rigid tartan]

It really doesn’t involve the isle at all…

[merry zodiac]

It is britain but less cursed

[lethal moat]

I wonder what the replicator was originally, or if it was created specifically for the islands

[ornate comet]

chat gpt prototype

[indigo parcel]

Man we need more lore added with evrima

I yearn for the lore oh I need it

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-computer-typing-fast-gif-5368357

[tropic saddle]

most things are made for money making

[lethal moat]

Well yeah, but I’m thinking plants and food production

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cut-gif-23967474

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/elansnd-gif-25806969

[hexed forge]

Southeast island superiority, sorry.

[bright shoal]

it even has its own Ireland lmao

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[fast forge]

SCP-lookin place

What an awful place to have a seat

"Why I think I'll have a 'Splash' soda, have a sit, and enjoy all the beautiful concrete"

[lethal moat]

Sit in the mop bucket

[fast forge]

GUTS does successfully pull off that liminal space feeling

Why would a player even go down here?

oh it's the same room...

[lethal moat]

There's got to be something down there you want, or you're running/hiding from something

[fast forge]

So like, strain stuff? Make yourself stronger? Food? Rats?

Neuro goo?

[lethal moat]

Guns, mres, keycards

[acoustic osprey]

i just hope they get that greenish lighting in the concept art
I NEED IT

[hallow ruin]

and at the same time, possible encounter of a Gen1, or a horde of troodons
or possibly something worse...

[deep cairn]

@pseudo lantern are you guys at west rail still

Oh my gosh wrong chat mb

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/CMEoazcR4pA

There is an island
That we know they call "Evrima"

a nice video

Apollo Files is still better !!!! muhaha
but, quite interesting

[prisma crown]

I liked it

[acoustic osprey]

yea

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[hexed forge]

Oh I liked it,
What I found funny is that these always have to end with that classic Hyper roar.

[pseudo lantern]

hyper..

is that not just regular rex?

[hexed forge]

Nah that's a Hyper Giga I believe

Maybe not Giga but definitely a Hyper, pretty sure.

[pseudo lantern]

i mean.. it plays at the end of Familiar Faces

https://youtu.be/wMlJa4deKJ8?t=397

and that's just plain old rex

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, sounded familiar
was gonna say

[pseudo lantern]

here's all the hyper 1 calls anyway

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeDjG5y3s5I
but if you need reference

[pseudo lantern]

familiar....... face...........

[hexed forge]

I just checked the old trailer where I thought the classic Hyper Rex call originated from.
It indeed isn't the one in that video.. so I'm guessing it's normal Rex I guess

[hexed forge]

I think that trailer name would've worked better for a rex/trike trailer imo.

But there's many other BETTER names for theirs so...

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
it is similar to the H Rex friendly

similar but definitely not the same

[hexed forge]

Aye

[pseudo lantern]

bangalang

[ionic fog]

Hypo Rex, friendly

[plush widget]

prettiest most welcoming and vibrant hospital in greece

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[plush widget]

man i wish davinci's analog horror was free...

[plush widget]

i would cook up so many lore vids

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/grey-cat-cry-gif-2840808548593801720

[plush widget]

https://tenor.com/view/shane-twd-shane-twd-villain-gif-9736644371273356483

[hallow ruin]

apollo files isnt
because it doesnt exist.

[hallow ruin]

EW HE REALLY CALLED IT THAT
BRO HOW CAN THAT GUY SAY ANYTHING ABT LORE

[tropic saddle]

I remember seeing one concept piece that labeled the island as "pangea"

also wtf is that structure. my brain cant make sense of it.

[hallow ruin]

wait hold on i think i did him unfair

[plush widget]

where did you find that

[tropic saddle]

the wiki, all old concept art.

https://isle.fandom.com/wiki/The_Isle_Concept_art

[plush widget]

it doesnt label the island as pangea, it might just be the name of the restaurant

[hallow ruin]

THE DILO JUMPSCARED ME OML
bro this video is well made, the sounds th effects the visuals are awesome
but evrima island was meh..

[tropic saddle]

Ah yeah closer examniation it says bar

lolol

[hallow ruin]

viewing platform

[tropic saddle]

I guess so, best thing it could be

[acoustic osprey]

restaurant and bar

[hallow ruin]

thats.. something.

[tropic saddle]

AE definetly did some plant experimentation thats for sure.

Corpse flower is massive

[plush widget]

that doesnt even look like a normal human being

its posture is off

atleast it seems to me

[knotty locust]

man I love strain plants and environmental hazards

[hallow ruin]

i really wonder how this guy breaks the algorithm with such successful videos

[hallow ruin]

zombie-ish

[tropic saddle]

Honestly though would be nice to see some more interesting fauna/flora

we do get alot already but most are just diets or food.

[plush widget]

yeah, lets hope it happens in the future

[quasi zenith]

At this point we gotta hope the future happens

[fast forge]

The song they play while plugging you into the EIP machine:

https://youtu.be/HzhyLxkbKdc?si=xrWAvvviAPJNFJqA

Or if you prefer to plug into the Dream Sequencer:

https://youtu.be/ayIWEGcOQWQ?si=c8eXo4-tRhOB8Su_

[low scarab]

the lineage displacement song has those digital beeping sounds very interesting tid bit

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/nightmare-before-christmas-jack-skellington-gif-19329701

[hallow ruin]

if you ever in your life

find this worm in some place laying down

will you get close?

[wispy sundial]

Drink the forbidden juice to get all nutrients maxed...

[tropic saddle]

honestly thought of a unique mechanic for the corpse flower.

since theres the scent radar it would pop up as a meat icon or food for carnivores since it gives off a pungent smell of death.

[zenith frigate]

Munching noises

[tropic saddle]

The isle needs parasites.

idk about yall but thats one of my biggest fears, parasites.

[granite ore]

Parasites are scary

[hallow ruin]

i feel bad for you not knowing what this really is

[tropic saddle]

what is it?

[low scarab]

i recognize that

[tropic saddle]

Ah wtf.

[hallow ruin]

currently working on.. making it do that

[hallow ruin]

this is how u can quickly and effiecently SUCK life out of some organism

[fast forge]

My most hated feedback post:
#general-feedback message

[tropic saddle]

feels bad it really is a neat idea

[fast forge]

ty

idk not everything in this game should be a positive for players, but the biggest argument against this parasite idea is the fact that it's not interactive

Even if it is true to real life - animals don't know if that next bite contains a parasite

Players have no way to avoid it, which feels bad in a video game

[fast forge]

do you work in blender?

[frosty jay]

if someone gets a parasite, like a tick, there should be designated cleaning stations. Like how fish go to cleaner shrimps to get de-parasited. Either have it be ai birds (give those stupid little demon scavengers a purpose) or a player dinosaur like ptera given the ability to clean

[fast forge]

You are thinking of external parasites, my post was about internal parasites (blood flukes and tapeworms)

[frosty jay]

ahhh I see.. in that case, it would be hard to clean those with shrimp

[fast forge]

I do kinda like the idea of ticks

Maybe you have a chance of picking them up in tall grass or the woods

Further incentivize players to stick to roads and game trails where available

[frosty jay]

hard to see at first until, suddenly, there's a red water balloon dangling off your side

[fast forge]

I think it should just give you an icon on the HUD

a newly attached tick would be tiny relative to nearly the entire roster

[frosty jay]

true. What debuff would a tick even give gameplay wise? Slower health regen?

[fast forge]

Reduced max blood level? Less stam?

[frosty jay]

perhaps

since the isle is a wasteland of genetic abominations as is, rather than being objective debuffs, what if parasites offer something useful as part of the foundation's experimentation? Like a super mutation that's gained from an external source. A mutagenic parasite where you have to endure a short trial of some kind before the body adapts to it and gains its buff

Something like a modified toxoplasmosis where once integrated in the body, maybe gained by either killing and eating something infected with it or from contaminated water, gives the dinosaur a mutation to its brain - allowing heightened adrenal output to continue running after stamina is depleted - for a price

[tropic saddle]

Ahh that could be even better

[frosty jay]

I guess at that point it'd be more symbiotic than parasitic but thats aside the point

[plush widget]

That's cool actually

[frosty jay]

And something like this would allow for much more variability in between dinosaurs of even the same species and an added challenge to earn some really sought after buff with an equal downside. Just another thing to seek for when you're hiking the seeming ghost towns servers can be outside hotspots, and maybe encourage more movement along the maps if the parasites are at variable locations

Like venturing to any water sources purported to potentially have the mutagenic toxoplasmosis in it, and drinking it to see if you get whats essentially a quest to start - either embrace the challenge assigned or simply let your body shed the parasite to avoid any risks. Maybe salt licks can flush out the parasite if you dont want them. If accepted, you have to survive x amount of in game days with a substantial stamina debuff as you essentially get a lung infection, before the parasite and your body adapt to eachother and gives you a buff

With how wild The Isle lore goes in the background of the game I feel like this conceptually fits pretty well

[snow jasper]

I am catching a whiff of conscription to lorecord about to happen

my cursor is hovering over the gif

[frosty jay]

you're catching a what to who now

[snow jasper]

wait for it

[lethal moat]

Mine did a lil better #general-feedback message

[lethal moat]

Parasites?

[frosty jay]

What in Don’s name is that

[lethal moat]

Unofficial matriarch concept

[frosty jay]

It’s just a lil baby

[lethal moat]

WAH

[frosty jay]

Oh now it’s a big baby..

A baby that wouldn’t even fit on the island 💀

[lethal moat]

Matriarch is the greatest strain adjacent thing on the island in my opinion

[frosty jay]

What is the matriarch? Like the progenitor of a specific strain or a dinosaur with.. every strain lmao

[lethal moat]

It’s at least related to Tissoplastic research, in tapwing’s unofficial story, it way tisso and hyper, but it’s whole shtick is that it evolves as it grows based on what it eats

[frosty jay]

Oh like a genestealer?

Are the strains like.. aliens or are they just mutagenic strains of modified retroviruses that inject specific gene markers into a host

[lethal moat]

They’re man-made, and related to medicine somehow

[frosty jay]

Interesting.. I’ve overlooked the medicinal benefit of becoming invisible for far too long

Do we have official stuff on the strains like confirmed or is most of it from Tapwing?

[fast forge]

Indeed it would
Technically mutualism

[lethal moat]

We have very little, most of what we have is in the document in the pinned comments

[frosty jay]

I see..

[frosty jay]

Hmm mutualistic brain worms

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-parasites-lost-gif-22392762

Futurama had a whole episode about that lol

[frosty jay]

Of course they did

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-worms-special-sauce-so-special-ever-wonder-gif-22529310

[frosty jay]

Idk if the isle lore includes modification to humans (it certainly does I’m sure) but as humans have evolved alongside parasites for so long, we kinda have gotten to a point where our body does funky things without them. So traveling in space away from those contractual monsters could cause issues. So maybe these mutagenic parasites could serve as a way to help us in space travel in the future? If the foundation is into that business, of course.

[fast forge]

Foundation?

[frosty jay]

Idk what the actual organization is called, whatever eggheads run the isle

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/scp-logo-gif-512x512-gif-2257380729846428484

[frosty jay]

Hm wrong foundation 😆

[fast forge]

there's basically nothing in the lore that mentions space travel

heck we don't even know if humanity has set foot on the moon in this universe

[frosty jay]

Hm, what’s the time period of this game? Guess I just assumed it was modern era

[fast forge]

(mostly we just don't know anything about the outside world)

[frosty jay]

I see

[fast forge]

Documents and tech have dates in the 90's and I think the very early 00's

[acoustic osprey]

what we discussed a few days back (yesterday?) was a really interesting conversation

[fast forge]

?

[acoustic osprey]

in-lore?
Apollo Engineering

[acoustic osprey]

about whether the space race existed or not

so many possibilities Don can go with the actual external worldbuilding with Isle Lore

[frosty jay]

Hm interesting interesting

Oh mighty lord Don above, please hear us and get some external world building for us to nibble on 🙏🏼

[fast forge]

ah yes this stuff
#isle-lore-theories message

[lethal moat]

I actually have this saved in one of my lore folders

[fast forge]

I remember when it was just Safe, Euclid, and Keter...

I still have a whole idea for a sarkic skip that I've only half-translated to paper

Also posting in the wiki seems daunting

[frosty jay]

When did all those classifications get added..

[fast forge]

last 3 years or so I'd wager

maybe more

[frosty jay]

I stop paying attention to SCP for 5 minutes then 3 years pass

[fast forge]

SCP nowadays has a pretty high standard, and some of the modern articles are straight-up amazing pieces of fiction

[frosty jay]

Interesting

[fast forge]

Rounderhouse's remake of all the historical anomalous cultures (the Mechanites, Daevites, and Sarkites) was really really good. Took these fun but somewhat shallow ideas and expanded them into believable human cultures

They are all listed as 001 articles I believe

[frosty jay]

Never heard of that remake, but perhaps I’ll take a look into it

AE are trying to make Adam Warlocks?? I didn't know they were trying to make the perfect super humans these guys are nuts 😭

Were there ever plans for the gen 1 humans to be playable? Or humans with strains to be playable?

[lethal moat]

Gen 1s will be playable, not sure about humanoid strains but hopefully

[frosty jay]

this dinosaur game could go so crazy whenever it gets finished

ideally before the brainrot claims my sanity

[frosty jay]

My final hour has suddenly gotten much closer

With all the references to space (Apollo, Mercury) you'd think space travel would be within AE's purview

[fast forge]

those aren't space references, they're greek mythology references

[frosty jay]

ooh..that makes sense, achieving godhood and all that. I see, Olympus there too

But uh.. why dinosaurs?

[fast forge]

Tartarus, Augustus, Echidna, there's more

[frosty jay]

Hm, the Greek hell, founder of roman empire, and mother of all monsters, good signs

[fast forge]

the short answer is we don't know

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-really-eric-foreman-foreman-gif-15798566522776115933

[frosty jay]

[acoustic osprey]

specifically
the deepest hell within Hades...

[frosty jay]

fun times I'm sure

[fast forge]

Tartarus is also where they locked away the titans

[acoustic osprey]

which makes sense for it being a prison
and also a creation facility

especially since Tartarus, the being (which was also the place), made many monsters

[frosty jay]

Is that where the big bad super dinos are locked away?

[acoustic osprey]

TITANOMACHY

[acoustic osprey]

in Legacy
it was where, specifically, 'strains' were made and kept

such as the Reapers

[frosty jay]

the whats

[acoustic osprey]

this thing (Evrima art)

legacy art

[frosty jay]

Oh.. yeah that looks like something that would come from a place called Tartarus

Is it a heavily modified dinosaur?

[acoustic osprey]

A strained human

[fast forge]

it looks closest to Gen 1, we think

[frosty jay]

Oh lovely

[acoustic osprey]

User Inquiry: Reaper
Tissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject. Initial results proved fatal.
Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004.
There are 12 active specimens
(from legacy)

[frosty jay]

manmade horrors beyond human comprehension, my favorite

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/grey-cat-cry-gif-2840808548593801720

[fast forge]

indeed

[acoustic osprey]

their pre-frontal cortex being flattened lol

[frosty jay]

are the bald versions what they look like pre-tisso implant

[lethal moat]

It’s slightly better on v1

[fast forge]

or it's in the same place but all the other craniofacial features were exaggerated, and the reaper's skull is larger overall

[frosty jay]

hm, tube brain

[acoustic osprey]

all the bald (the first two without the bat-like ears) ones are Generation Ones
which would be seperate from Tissos
we don't know what and how many Gen1s (if it was Gen1s) were made into Tissos, nor why some would be made into such

[frosty jay]

Was it the replicator getting a little too silly and trying to make its own adjustments perhaps? Aren't all the baldies made from the replicator AI

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/meet-the-robinsons-disney-wilbur-robinson-that-is-an-excellent-question-gif-16014909

we have no idea...

well, kinda

[frosty jay]

hm

[lethal moat]

Wether or not they were initially intended, they are purposely made as weapons and protection at some point

[acoustic osprey]

we know AE 'made' Gen1s as a retaliatory product
but how much is the Replicator involved? who knows

[fast forge]

there's a lot of specific things like this of which we really don't know the answer

[acoustic osprey]

Began as a retaliatory product by AE as an overengineered answer to
the question of, “What if something hits AE?"

[frosty jay]

ah yes, I too would like to invest in billions of dollars for a likely uncontrollable super solder

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[frosty jay]

as opposed to a gun, perhaps, for protection

[fast forge]

you don't know about EIP's?

[frosty jay]

the whats?

[fast forge]

[frosty jay]

uh oh

[fast forge]

Embryo Intelligence Profile

[frosty jay]

A smart embryo?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/am-am-ihnmaims-ihnmaims-allied-mastercomputer-hate-gif-3792826578129949285

[fast forge]

I gotta go to the optometrist, I'll let the other folks explain

https://tenor.com/view/the-stanley-parable-game-the-end-is-never-the-end-loop-ultra-deluxe-gif-23996323

[lethal moat]

EIPs are transferred human consciousness, potentially put into dinosaurs and maybe other animals

I'm a big fan of specialist gen 1s with human conciousness inside them

[frosty jay]

hm, the manmade horrors are made of men

[lethal moat]

You heard about the thousand life contract?

[frosty jay]

sounds like something from scientology

I presume, however, you aren't talking about Scientology

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/mrbeanwaiting-gif-18508033

[lethal moat]

From what we think, it's how you sign up to be an EIP

[frosty jay]

that checks out, although living a thousand lives as potentially a silly little troodon doesn't sound like the greatest business deal

[lethal moat]

Here's the line you sign on I think

[frosty jay]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[lethal moat]

There's a lot we don't know

[acoustic osprey]

lol

secretly called the EULA

[frosty jay]

I hope Don doesn't edge the lore like FNAF and drip fed us out of spite

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-mandalorian-laugh-cry-gif-21495683

[frosty jay]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hamster-sadhamster-hammy-hampter-popcat-gif-6561088576429774594

[acoustic osprey]

i think he likes the lore people 'a bit more' than the standard community, probably because we're way more niche
I just hope he doesn't turn Isle Lore INTO FNAF-style lore

it would just kill

[frosty jay]

yeah ideally it doesn't turn into a mess of Game Theory bait while also making it up as they go along so it turns into this confusing mess of nonsense

surely that doesn't happen

[acoustic osprey]

oh Game Theory got it so close!
re-write time

[lethal moat]

Let it be like an interactive ARG that goes as fast as people figure it out 🙏

[acoustic osprey]

i watched some kids do a real scavenger hunt for Easter
gave me PTSD

i wouldn't mind a proper
x -> y -> z -> g -> dead end (?)

[frosty jay]

the ARG is us buying a geneticist kit from amazon and actually making us make a dinosaur from scratch ourselves

[acoustic osprey]

i want ... scavenger hunt !! (more developed than Lore Hunt)

but to be fair
making them would take ages to make

but i can wait

[lethal moat]

A -> B -> C -> Nothing
D -> E -> F

F + C -> G
G + B -> H

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
things taking you to dead ends on purpose
making us, the community, have to back track etc etc

it would take a lot of time to make such because, because it would be more sophisticated
BUT

would be sick
even if we only had one or two of them happen every few years or so

[frosty jay]

If only

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1348916457672544336/image0.gif

[frosty jay]

oops, not the gif I meant to send 💀

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-down-bad-contemplating-gif-26288723

there we go

[snow jasper]

i am losing the scent of recruitment

[snow jasper]

oh

[frosty jay]

..recruitment?

Did I narrowly avoid falling into the clutches of a dark and mysterious cult

[frosty jay]

I see, so I did narrowly avoid the clutches of a dark and mysterious cult

[lethal moat]

Yeah

[patent ginkgo]

We are lorelings

[frosty jay]

was the process painful

does a loreling burst out of people's chest xenomorph style

[bright shoal]

No we get replicated and come out of a Vat of science goo.

[frosty jay]

oh yummy I love science goo

[lethal moat]

Wanna join?

[bright shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/flubber-slime-green-slime-science-my-beloved-gif-14013604140809509144

[frosty jay]

https://tenor.com/view/simpleflips-traitor-offer-surprised-lethal-company-gif-8833283378252117293

[lethal moat]

We have custom roles

[frosty jay]

Custom roles for the lorelings?

[lethal moat]

Yeah

[frosty jay]

Thats exactly 126 more roles than I was expecting

[lethal moat]

Surprising amount of lorelings

[frosty jay]

that is a considerable armada of lorelings, enough for at least one hive

[bright shoal]

in game lore peice on Ben

[pseudo lantern]

oh

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/speak-english-pulp-fiction-do-you-speak-it-gif-16440534

[lethal moat]

A legion of lorelings

[prisma crown]

i could probably come up with like 50 random questions about lore just based on the smallest things around gateway

[lethal moat]

Go for it

[prisma crown]

hm

[frosty jay]

dont do it they'll throw you in the science goo

[hexed forge]

uh
Let's say that something started mashing my keyboard while I was getting food downstairs

No one saw that

[pseudo lantern]

YAY

[lethal moat]

Gato

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/mayaspapayas-cat-pressing-a-keyboard-smash-screaming-gif-27055444

[bright shoal]

its already been done

ok i dont think it has actually...lol

[frosty jay]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[prisma crown]

well off the top of my head from walking through docks,
the docks have cranes with some company logo on it (dont remember which) but in that case does AE outsource construction on gateway and if so does that mean that they disclouse information outside to the public within contracts?
There is also another company name on the dumpsters in docks (dont remember) (they also would require large garbage trucks) is this another outsourced operation? Is AE not the sole operator of gateway?
Since alot of information regarding gateway and AE is redacted would that mean that these possible outsourced companies work without knowing? Would then this lead to possible leak of public knowledge? is the information discloused then public knowledge already (then why do we recieve some info redacted and some not). Could these companies be then subsidies of AE? is AE more of a overarching company with lots of smaller companies (possible a source of funding?)

[frosty jay]

Oh you’re defintely going in the science goo

[prisma crown]

YAY

[frosty jay]

the science goo of endless pain and misery

[pseudo lantern]

we do know they have operations other than.. dinosaurs
pharmacy, nutrition etc.
They might outsource, but I don't see a reason they wouldn't keep it limited to a proxy network if anything, where they have their own operations separate from the outside world so that they can censor what is released.

[prisma crown]

well they definitely have logos of seperate companies throughout gateway

also where are the garbage trucks

[pseudo lantern]

might just be marketplace assets i fear

[prisma crown]

NOOO

[lethal moat]

Company logo on the cranes is throwaway to our current knowledge, no substance to it, potentially not permanent, but there are other companies under Apollo like Mercury Beneficial, etc, AE works under the larger Apollo corporate umbrella, knowledge leaks are possible, which is why there are punishments for such

[prisma crown]

got it, i should go on more tangents this is fun

[pseudo lantern]

the more you do that, the more I can pretend to answer it while actually waiting for one of the Lore Elders to answer it so i can learn..

[prisma crown]

(i went bananas over the camera in the diablo trailcam vid moving a centimeter to the left)

[pseudo lantern]

because unfortunately I don't have any questions that ever come to mind lore-wise

[frosty jay]

you think they sell dinosaur meatballs on the blackmarket?

[pseudo lantern]

we still don't know exactly why dinosaurs are even necessary

maybe we never will

[frosty jay]

perhaps the dinosaurs are merely a distraction

or the CEO's kid just really liked dinosaurs

[pseudo lantern]

we know they are necessary

[frosty jay]

something something ancient genes lost to time with unlimited potential perhaps

[bright shoal]

restarting the evolutionary chain to restart the world after some very bad incidents occured?

[frosty jay]

or maybe because the downfall of dinosaurs was a fluke, and without the event they would've been on a course of evolutionary perfection

[pseudo lantern]

they are and were on the course of evolutionary perfection
observe the products of this perfection:

[frosty jay]

or maybe the pharmaceutical strains come from an extinct, deactivated gene buried in these forgotten fossils and thats where the strains are derived from

[frosty jay]

glorious

https://tenor.com/view/meme-memes-wonder-woman-gif-19782520

return all to borb

[lethal moat]

I miss that lore hunt

It’s been almost a year

[hexed forge]

It was so fun.

[prisma crown]

GUTS will have stuff im hoping

[hexed forge]

Glance Sheets supposedly. New ones.

[prisma crown]

oh sweet

[hexed forge]

Probably won't give anything crazy lore-wise. But worldbuilding lore is still nice, I like it

[prisma crown]

honestly world building lore is my favorite type

[lethal moat]

🙏

[fast forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

[frosty jay]

Well that’s an ominous and also vague statement

As they say, Dondi works in mysterious ways I suppose

the description for tisso in the lore doc doesn't say they can camoflague, is that abilitiy lost in the updated version?

[lethal moat]

Never been reconfirmed for Evrima

[frosty jay]

Interesting

[fast forge]

Was looking at this conversation

We know AE started with and got it's money from food

[frosty jay]

MY DINOSAUR MEATBALL ON THE BLACK MARKET JOKE WASNT A JOKE

I'm a prophet

[fast forge]

No

[frosty jay]

Just kidding

[fast forge]

in that conversation Don explicitly says the dinos aren't food several times

[frosty jay]

As you can tell, my reading skills are immaculate

[tropic saddle]

So dinosaurs were an accident?

[frosty jay]

outside force of compulsion..

[pseudo lantern]

probably not

[fast forge]

Let me finish this thought...

[pseudo lantern]

pretty hard to make them by accident

discovering the process to do so may have been
but..

[frosty jay]

unless you're a god I guess

or maybe god shaped things just trend towards dinosaur shaped things

[tropic saddle]

I just read outside source so I assumed there was something that nudged them into that direction or just happened to happen

[pseudo lantern]

AE certainly do like.. acting like it

[fast forge]

what did I just say y'all...

[pseudo lantern]

aint nobody stopping you gangalang tangathon

[frosty jay]

what words did you just say

[pseudo lantern]

gangnam style

[frosty jay]

hm

[fast forge]

In the event of climate catastrophe, one of the biggest sources of death will be famine
What if AE was the source of food for much of the world through genetically engineered plants

The world is fried, no more ice caps

[frosty jay]

there was mention of those clovers with nitrogen fixing capabilities that were apparently real useful

[fast forge]

In this new hotter world humanity is barely surviving

[pseudo lantern]

YAY ICE AGE FINALLY GONE

[pseudo lantern]

Apollan Ktisis Trifolium..

[frosty jay]

the Ktisis or whatever

[fast forge]

AE manages to make some food crops that grow in this new climate pretty well

[frosty jay]

yeah that

[fast forge]

In fact they grow too well

They start growing everywhere

The global ecology has been destroyed for decades already

There are no large herbivores left on earth to eat all this new vegetation

[frosty jay]

clover-pocalypse

so dinosaurs?

[pseudo lantern]

i think im smelling what you're stepping in

[fast forge]

So with this hotter world, AE wonders about large herbivores that can eat lots of plants

[pseudo lantern]

unfortunate and necessary.. i see it....

[frosty jay]

Not even the large mammals of relatively recent years (mammoth, giant ground sloth, etc.) could pound that much food

[fast forge]

But of course if you just introduce herbivores, you will end up with too many herbivores

So now you are building this whole food web, but it's gotta fit the current world standards

So it's on the fly, experimental

[pseudo lantern]

and the islands are testing sites..

[fast forge]

Throw in a herrerasaur, an allo, a trike, and whatever omni is

[frosty jay]

the road of dinosaurs to fix a screwed up ecosystem to psychic professor x spinosauruses is a much slippery slope than many would suspect I'm sure

somewhere between those two points is probably the cure for cancer

[fast forge]

Recreating the world ecosystems
And what's more marketable to the impoverished nations of earth than dinosaurs!
Everyone would want their own dinosaurs!

[frosty jay]

or to hunt them

[pseudo lantern]

i mean.. zombies linked to neuros..

[frosty jay]

really?

[pseudo lantern]

perhaps the reaper came from experimentation of the cure for cancer thing using the tissoplastic strain

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[frosty jay]

the neuro strain seems disproportionally busted compared to the other strains

[fast forge]

The dinosaurs are necessary because dinosaurs are marketable and sell well
No one is going to go wild for a chalicotherium or a bull moose, but a maiasaura, maybe

[pseudo lantern]

SUPPOSEDLY they are physically stunted

[frosty jay]

ah, truly a professor X situation afterall then

[acoustic osprey]

where did you get this from

[frosty jay]

(until you get to the more recent iterations of Professor X at least, its a mess)

[pseudo lantern]

assuming that walter (i forgort the rex's name.....) is.. somewhat? neurotenic

[acoustic osprey]

Dean

[pseudo lantern]

deam..

[acoustic osprey]

but i do not believe so

[fast forge]

@acoustic osprey thoughts?

[frosty jay]

is that the stunted rex with smarter intellect

[acoustic osprey]

from all we know
they are, Shirley and Dean, still 'normal' dinosaurs (Rexes)

[acoustic osprey]

could most definitely work

[frosty jay]

hmm

[fast forge]

It requires a climate collapse, but also humanity is extant and has money

[pseudo lantern]

it feels a bit intentional.. bigger and stronger rex, goober smart rex
why?

[frosty jay]

so were the hyper strains made literally to be ecological nukes for when the plants were mowed down and the giant herbis needed to go

[acoustic osprey]

i do not believe them to be proper strains yet

[fast forge]

the vibe from Augustus was kinda "oh wow this is random but cool, let's use it"
I figured the same was true for S & D

[pseudo lantern]

YET
i agree that they probably aren't the prime representative of the strains, but an earlier rendition

[pseudo lantern]

it likely is more nuanced than "it's cool let's use it" but
yeah!

[fast forge]

Yes I've wondered if they were somehow "farming" useful mutations or something weird like that

[pseudo lantern]

surprise me, replicator
.
..
...
replicator why tf is there a herrunclesaurus eating our cameras

[frosty jay]

"I got bored"

[acoustic osprey]

to note though, behavioural mutation
not physical

[frosty jay]

also the strains are supposed to relate to medical uses aren't they? The pharmeuctical branch is most certainly gonna use them for.. something

[acoustic osprey]

yes and no

[frosty jay]

yesn't

[acoustic osprey]

we know it is linked but not the direct meaning why

[frosty jay]

hm

[acoustic osprey]

unless Don has changed his mind....

[frosty jay]

👀

[acoustic osprey]

we're yet to get HARD things on them
so...

[fast forge]

I have my theories for the medical research that led to each strain

[pseudo lantern]

they do seem quite conveniently useful

hyper-regeneration
extreme strength
supreme intellect

[frosty jay]

I mean, alzheimers research and neuron connections for neurotenic. Perhaps research into mirror neurons - the phenomenon of people's thoughts effecting random number generators

[fast forge]

Hypo - endocrine/hormone disorders
Tisso - tissue transplantation, like organ donors (potentially cross-species)
Neuro - neurological conditions (alzheimer's etc)

[fast forge]

oh yes indeed

[frosty jay]

well, the reapers were made by transplanting tisso meat into gen 1's yes?

[fast forge]

idk on the old lore stuff

at least in that regard

[frosty jay]

we need an old lore loreling to confirm

[frosty jay]

an old lore loreling has confirmed

I mean is tisso just a weaponized cancer? Cancer constantly grows and regenerates, independent of a body. No wonder that first trial was fatal no doubt

[fast forge]

In this context "tissoplastic" would presume "tissue" + "plastic"
That is
organic + malleable
Kinda like stem cells, but maybe a large mass of cells that can more quickly become the desired tissue

[frosty jay]

and neurotenics a weaponized prion, as prions make other proteins misfold through contact in the brain like with kuru. Although, we have no instance of a neurotenic subject being made through brain tissue implantation I suppose

[fast forge]

I don't remember a prion connection

[frosty jay]

I dont either

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[pseudo lantern]

@knotty locust

[fast forge]

why did you ping owlenstein

[frosty jay]

am I in danger

[pseudo lantern]

i know

[fast forge]

the megalania is hungry...

[frosty jay]

uh oh

[pseudo lantern]

if you thought it, it's been knew

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv4YwmoOhMU

[fast forge]

I figured you knew you did it, I just don't understand why this statement was relevant to him

[pseudo lantern]

i've been knowing

long time

[frosty jay]

https://tenor.com/view/something-happened-malik-tosin-morohunfola-friend-request-what-happened-gif-17786342

[fast forge]

I'm so confusedd

[frosty jay]

[knotty locust]

prion disease

[pseudo lantern]

yes

[fast forge]

because it's neuro?
or do you know something I don't?

[frosty jay]

I know lots of things

[pseudo lantern]

prion disease

[frosty jay]

None of them relevant

[acoustic osprey]

prison disease

[pseudo lantern]

OH

[frosty jay]

I feel like I started somethig beyond my understanding

[fast forge]

Are you saying neuros are spread by prion disease?

[frosty jay]

I'm postulating maybe it is carried through a prion disease of some kind, perhaps, with no real background knowledge to it

or maybe even originated as a prion that misfolded in a way that had some funky results, with a trade off of muscular atrophy

I don't think there's any evrima descriptions of Neurotenics so I'm just free ballin' this

[pseudo lantern]

evrima-wise, i think all we know is that zomberts have something to do with them

[frosty jay]

well

many prion diseases basically cause zombies

ever heard of chronic wasting disease in deer?

that's a prion disease

and by all means, those deer are one step away from zombies

its contagious too, other deer can catch it rather easily. Makes their brains spongy

[fast forge]

I would say the opposite is more likely true
Neuro research was started in response and as an attempt to cure prion disease

Prions break things down, they don't build them up
Prions won't lead to something becoming more neurologically complex

[frosty jay]

perhaps something regarding the brain of a neuro, some sorta protein, is highly unstable. Whereas hyper strains burn like a dying star due to their metabolism maybe neuros are just prone to misfolding proteins in their brain meat

Or a very specific prion disease became prevalent and the neuros are the key to making some kind of antidote in a sense, yeah

Dinosaur Kuru

[fast forge]

I think I'll lean towards alzheimer's research for now

[frosty jay]

I do agree, alzheimers makes a lot of sense. The zombies complicate things. The only connection I can make is prions, as they originate in the brain and neuro seems to be all about that wrinkly head meat

I dont think alzheimers makes zombies

[fast forge]

Oh I figured the zombies were tisso stuff

[frosty jay]

There's, apparently, some connection between the neuros and the zombies like xenon said

[fast forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

[frosty jay]

Not too sure about any connection between the zombalees and the tissos. Althought tisso's super healing bringing back the dead does make sense. Like I said, weaponized cancer

[fast forge]

idk anyways I need to go to bed

[frosty jay]

sleep is for the week, I just need 13 Monsters and a donut

[fast forge]

it was fun

[frosty jay]

good night, tiny dinosaur

[fast forge]

hon I'm a middle aged woman, I can't live that life

[frosty jay]

Nonsense

[fast forge]

I had my glass of wine, I'm almost an hour over my bedtime

gotta be up by 5:15am

[frosty jay]

Oh 💀

[pseudo lantern]

When Issac said this, dawndi interjected with "neurotenic"

[fast forge]

ohhhhhh I did not know this

ty

[frosty jay]

the lord Dondi giveth and the lord Dondi taketh away

[fast forge]

was this relatively recent, or way back then?

[pseudo lantern]

Very recent.

[fast forge]

oh okay cool ty

[knotty locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1301952825567481947/1302649999792017569/Therizinosaurus.png?ex=680afc1a&is=6809aa9a&hm=cbae8e2625090f35a2adeab56736e79a01a1289b7bd90b74d307dbb2a81cc148&

[frosty jay]

ah sick, violence

my favorite

[knotty locust]

imagine how good it would be if juvenile theri could eat the beehives in sanctuaries

oh wait this is lore theories

[frosty jay]

close enough

[lethal moat]

Mods, eviscerate this man

[frosty jay]

Mods, send him to tartarus 🫵

[tropic saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/shadowrealm-get-out-jeansbowl-gif-25245055

[lethal moat]

I’ll take him myself (this is my in, don’t blow it for me guys)

[frosty jay]

into the science goo with him

he gets to be the first type-H human that is, ideally, not just a pile of quivering tumors on the floor released into evrima

[lethal moat]

Colossus time

[hallow ruin]

yes
sorry for late reply

[hallow ruin]

i might actually model this its cool, but thats if someone would help me with 2D

[fast forge]

Why would you need 2D for this? The wing membranes?

[hallow ruin]

angled views for me to model, could help a lot
its awesome tapwing included a top/buttom view of the wing, thats dropping off lotta effort

ik i can.. "assume" stuff and model
but i just have OCD and barely can

[fast forge]

ohhh like profile views of the art, I see

yeah that's a weird pose to try to model without any other angles

[hallow ruin]

exactly

[hallow ruin]

yeah its painful, if i ever try id get it with wrong porpotions

[frosty jay]

I’d offer to help with the 2D if that.. thing didn’t also intimidate me

[lethal moat]

I’m just here to look at all the pretty art

[hallow ruin]

WIP camouflage system
im coming my lovely little tissos

[hallow ruin]

😔

[frosty jay]

[ornate comet]

If neuro dilo exists it better make the player being hunted experience vivid hallucinations irl

[frosty jay]

At that point, just spawn actual duplicates, like mental projections. The venom just causes synaptic shocks so the mental projections actually cause damage

I do hope the strains actually give each dinosaur a unique new ability or at least enhance what’s there rather than making them just bullet sponge raid bosses

You think tissos could get venomous quills to ambush unsuspecting prey with? The reapers looked like they were full of quills, but granted those might just be not weaponised hairs

[ionic fog]

What you’re describing is how current dilo works lol

[frosty jay]

I mean spawn the clones without need for venom, but the venom enhancing the clones and also everyone seeing the clones regardless of venom

[ionic fog]

<@&933486433342222376>

[frosty jay]

Right here, we got a live one

Aw man but we could’ve missed a free $50

[ionic fog]

Oh right like the guy just rolls up and he’s so damn mythical you go crazy and start seeing more of him xD

[frosty jay]

The aura is so potent you start going crazy in its mere presence

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/christ-resurrection-jesus-gif-9134538576179005668

[frosty jay]

Be not afraid dilos

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[frosty jay]

Rolling up with their muscle monster hyper dilo bodyguards

Well, hypers may be too crazy to serve as reasonable bodyguards I guess

what was type-O? Before it got sent to the conceptual void

[acoustic osprey]

'Magna remake'

or at least
the Magna Quetz remake strain/variant

[frosty jay]

What were Magna's gimmick?

[acoustic osprey]

Hyperendocrins but better

[frosty jay]

Oh.. Interesting

[acoustic osprey]

basically taking away the negatives
but are slightly less powerful

yeah, basically not good for balance

almost Hyper level pros with no cons

[frosty jay]

I can imagine

hypers only seem plausible if they're basically giant hummingbirds

[ornate comet]

Essentially it’s just that

[frosty jay]

hummingbirds but with a nuclear reactor for a heart

[acoustic osprey]

and a bit dinosaur shaped

[frosty jay]

if the whole gimmick for hypers is an insane and unsustainable metabolism, wouldn't that not be a factor for herbi hypers since they can just eat grass?

unless grass alone no longer sustains them because of their high demands

[acoustic osprey]

depends
depends on if Herbis can become Hypers or not

#isle-lore-theories message
they may become strains, from what is said here, but hypers? who knows
maybe there may be new strains for Herbis? Or maybe Herbis stop becoming herbivorous slowly as a Hyper?

or they plan to change how grazing works

[acoustic osprey]

or this, yeah

[frosty jay]

in nature, 'herbivores' usually need to supplement their diet with scavenging bones and such, like how deers do, since their plant based diet alone isn't enough to get everything they need

[acoustic osprey]

yea, herbis aren't true 'herbis'

me cow ate me 'and off

[frosty jay]

I've seen a horse slirp a chick up like a dumpling

[acoustic osprey]

as they should! Hope the horsey didn't get salmonella 😔

[frosty jay]

I never bothered to ask the horsey if the chick made his tumby explode, unfortunately

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-stare-sleepy-gif-9558558281283765110

[frosty jay]

Maybe a hyper herbivore has be forced to at least become omnivorous. That could be messy though, since many herbis have way more crowd control options and stunlocks carnis just don't have (aside from anything with a pin)

[acoustic osprey]

if anything, the devs just need to create a 'problem' with starvation
as if the Hyper Herbi was a Hyper Carni
whether it doesn't actually turn into an omni or carnivore

[frosty jay]

hmm..the best fix I can think of is making grass just not nutritious enough to stall hyper herbi hunger I guess

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
something were
as you slowly grow/get older (depends on how Strains work I suppose, over growth and/or time), your hunger drain gets faster and faster
and being able to graze slowly stops (threshold gets lower)

[frosty jay]

thats what I was thinking too

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/you-and-i-are-not-so-different-raimi-meme-green-goblin-spiderman-gif-20908369

[frosty jay]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-movie-dr-evil-were-not-so-different-you-and-i-gif-26966764

[acoustic osprey]

woah

where is mini me!!!

[frosty jay]

https://tenor.com/view/gangsta-reaction-mrw-reactions-mini-me-gif-5042508

[acoustic osprey]

^

[hexed forge]

A new Isaac name change wohoo

[acoustic osprey]

a bit late....

[hexed forge]

When did it happen?

[acoustic osprey]

2 days ago...

[hexed forge]

I've been busy and tired...

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-really-eric-foreman-foreman-gif-15798566522776115933

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[bright shoal]

why is it grammatically incorrect....

[acoustic osprey]

why not

[frosty jay]

The c is silent that’s why

[bright shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-strayla-day-cxxt-gif-24644380

[fast forge]

tbh I'm a little bothered every time I see someone make this point in this discord

Yes megaherbivores are not strictly obligate herbivores

But also they are definitely herbivores, because on a technical level being an herbivore isn't defined by having a strictly herbivorous diet, but rather possessing a gastrointestinal system that allows them to process large amounts of vegetation

They are plant specialists, and the degree of specialization to digest plant matter is much higher than for eating flesh

Meat is kinda easy to digest, that's why herbis can do it rarely

But most hypercarnivores cannot process vegetation at all, you only see animals like cats and dogs eating grass for the fiber

[fast forge]

Sorry, nothing against you, just a pet peeve of mine

[agile rose]

Deino is the pigs dad😐

[acoustic osprey]

interesting augustus video observation

i presume locked, as in, needing a password

but interesting for the lvl 5 olympus personnel to not have immediate open access to such

[lethal moat]

Redundancy and security maybe

[acoustic osprey]

but the person logged in
where the system unlocked for that person

i just find it a bit interesting

i do wonder if AE Research Database will be explored in the future

[lethal moat]

Maybe the person wasn't level 5

[acoustic osprey]

ALSO something that we should note down for the UI update
could be related

[acoustic osprey]

how so? it said they did

[lethal moat]

Did it?

[acoustic osprey]

I don't make these claims lightly.....
https://gyazo.com/e79ca697b8d55464b481e5214720a7ee

i doubt it would be a lvl 5 person coming in and immediately authorising "X" OLYMPUS person in the middle of loading a file

[lethal moat]

🧐

Interesting

[acoustic osprey]

which, in terms of semantics, i think could be the only other meaning for such

or just saying lvl 5 is the max? but that is a weird way of saying such

[lethal moat]

I'm betting it's for redundancy, OR, there's levels above 5 that aren't locked, yeah

[acoustic osprey]

just, if so, that wording is very very weird

and goes against all matters of occam's razor
where it just hurts...

[fast forge]

huh?

I figured it's the system recognizing correct Level 5 authorization, I assume after a correct password login

[acoustic osprey]

do you mean
recognising they are lvl 5?
or?

[fast forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

that is what i assume

[acoustic osprey]

especially
if you go down the semantic route

occams razor.

[fast forge]

This statement seems as if you are talking about an interaction involving two humans

In my mind it is simply a single human and a computer network response

Oh but you say you doubt it...

I'm tired....

[acoustic osprey]

that is what i doubt

[acoustic osprey]

i shall forgive you, for this time

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-sadness-pet-head-caterpie-sad-gif-16792400

[gaunt hazel]

Where do I go to see a whole entire dayum book of isle lore, both evirma and legacy

[acoustic osprey]

well...

best place?
the three documents (preferably two, which i'll send all) are the best 'go to' ones

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
best for Evrima lore

https://docs.google.com/document/d/102ETakYa1vH0VHC9hs_i_kSuum9aVcuH0G4_CobBPr8/edit
best for Legacy lore

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wRF05lnHGo1OQe3ovpZ0PaHolKFNHLxjDaxuGvxhaow/edit?usp=sharing
an ok one for early Evrima lore, i would no longer recommend

these are in the pinned messages as well, btw
for future reference

[acoustic osprey]

ts1 points out in lorecord

same design from the replay filter system

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-futurama-neat-wow-gif-5744318

[acoustic osprey]

putting global ae research database in the lore doc

[acoustic osprey]

yea!!!

[acoustic osprey]

done
put a footnote that it had a lock on it for the USER

probably will be a while till the next lore doc update
wooooo

[hexed forge]

For security purposes anyone that logs in externally isn't automatically connected to the global AE research database so it needs another verification check.

This is my guess

Since the person in the AUGUSTUS video logged in "externally" iirc

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/children-ruin-everything-astrid-to-the-future-future-cheers-to-the-future-gif-9139493281704664146

[plush widget]

i wanna become a lore scientist

i shall study the lore passionately from now on

[mint igloo]

A gen 1 scientist would be funny

[plush widget]

anomalous behaviour

uhm - replicates

[mint igloo]

I'm picturing that pipe smoking raptor that built a crude bridge to venezuela

[acoustic osprey]

could be so

[acoustic osprey]

depends on what the what the external aspect means
i suppose

but still
I can see that being a possibility

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-well-whatever-gif-9050415

[tropic saddle]

now this is a bit offtopic but I had a idea which would be cool for some actual narrative story telling via a video.

More or less directing this at devs or whoever is responsible for the making of lore vids.

Something similiar to the style in this vid below, could really be neat to show off what happened when the facility fell apart and why it's abandoned today. (Still new to the lore so idek if this has been explained yet)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMy-hQX0MoM

[acoustic osprey]

in order, roughly

• Hidden date
• "External login" -> Generally describe, from what we can see, OLYMPUS USER
  - quite likely a (high up) worker from or at OLYMPUS
  - refer to the 'external' aspect; is it externally from OLYMPUS or USER is using some sort of external login system like a hhigh-up'master-key' sort of situation?
• Up to (for what we know) 5 levels of clearance, but OLYMPUS USER being lvl 5 alludes to 5 being 'relatively high'
• Quick and general discussion on "Access to hard drive / files found" section
  - i find it interesting how there is only one file found
  - is it either just a 'video thing' for ease, so therefore just Dev overlooking (not that it matters much lol)
  - or that there is only ONE file at this location. Why? How? Talk about potential theory routes
• Quick LOCKED Access to Global Access Research Database mention
  - What it is/could be and why was it locked
• Describe the actual media shown
  - An AVI video made in a slideshow format, with footage all from the Monitoring/Monitor Camera system (describe what that is versus Trail Cams)
  - Summarise the main slides about Augustus
  - Describe what AUGUSTUS is - SYNTH
  - Analysis on AUGUSTUS' anomalous behaviour (not physical)
• refer to Tartarus, specifically ideas brought by the media warning
  - then refer to the flip side of it potentially being a creation facility as well
• highlight how the segmented 'sections' (Access to local mon... / to local trail ... / hard disk) are part of the interface and are selectable

(2nd half)

• RAMBLE about I12 basically fully matching with H4
• make note of the artistic similarities of the MCAM system and Chiptracking
• Ramble about the 'timeline of events', especially issues like how another Herrera is suddenly at H4. How AE must have no care for safety then. (i cant remember truly what Cerato and I discussed about properly)

anything missing?

[acoustic osprey]

honestly the SOS OST track (reclaimed) have an almost similar feeling, but more musicial
but i would love something more like this

albeit... it really puts into the question on how AE lost control

because, seemingly, it wouldn't have been in a big explosion like Chernobyl
so nothing very immediate

[hexed forge]

I'm in class, can't check
I'll check it out when I'm home.

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205981060194893855/1355318942004150528/this-chart-applies-to-everything-captures-my-feelings-v0-diktmcdysbgb1.gif

[tropic saddle]

Which is why I would love a vid like that,
it would put into depth while not exposing it completely what was going on during the fall

[acoustic osprey]

but make AE all speak in Latin and ancient Greek

specifically classical latin pronouncation

[tropic saddle]

lmfaoo

[pseudo lantern]

those guys from lost

[acoustic osprey]

none of that ecclesiastical latin junk

SAY YOUR Cs like a kg!

[pseudo lantern]

HOW DO YOU SAY KG

[acoustic osprey]

here

let me find my phone...

[pseudo lantern]

find my phone reference

[pseudo lantern]

first thing that comes to mind is like.. the kha in hindustani

[plush widget]

yeah really cool idea

Lets hope they cook up something like that

So we dont have to make a fan made one

[gaunt hazel]

Kilo Grams

[harsh slate]

<@&933486433342222376>

[hexed forge]

Pretty much all of it,

However I would also add in the theory for the dinosaur "designations"
HRS.12-S.174
TYR.12-S.003

That theory being https://discordapp.com/channels/401464048610312193/401480573471948821/1273456655908081807
That also received a Don comment.

Definitely

Talk about the whole H4 situation tho.

[tropic saddle]

HMMMMM

[lethal moat]

Check water access in the hordetest

[tropic saddle]

Yeah I seen it on ht didnt know it was making any sounds but now that you mention it I do remember hearing some sort of loud pitch beep over near there

[acoustic osprey]

i see, i see
I should definitely refer to the meaning of the name tags

thanks

[acoustic osprey]

was it very random or coordinated?

[acoustic osprey]

and thank you!

[hexed forge]

indeed

[acoustic osprey]

i definitely want to have this video done in a month or two

[tropic saddle]

not sure will investigate later.

[acoustic osprey]

i just got some big project assignments coming in a few weeks
so i'll be on and off with script writing at the moment

[acoustic osprey]

yay

also the list i sent you
i want the video to be very 1:1 with the actual augustus video

that is
pointing things out/descrbing them/theorising etc in order of events of the video

because i felt like my theorises and thingos in my last two videos (dibble videos) was very erratic at times

which, i feel like, was the reason it is a two parter lol

and if i miss anything potential big theories i may want to talk about for AUGUSTUS, then you don't have to weave through random jargon for a second video; because this next one should refer to basically everything general that we have discussed about the video

[hexed forge]

Ah I see,
That seems like the best way.

[hexed forge]

Hopefully!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/grey-cat-cry-gif-2840808548593801720

[acoustic osprey]

these are missing

specifically
the 'new' AE logo

same angle as in the photo i sent before

so the AE Grade Water has been tweaked
I don't know when though
just now that i remember what it looked like...

ah
just says Class Water ###

is this potentially another model in general?

oh wait
it must be a seperate model

unless they've been changed this HT?

to note, Ts1 saw them (the 'other model' with AE logo) in Main branch

[lethal moat]

Time to switch things up with the thought experiment because I’m bored, if you were to want to double cross AE and give information to a rival company, how would you try and get away with it?

[acoustic osprey]

i had a listen
with my galli at water access

Wasn't able to hear anything atm

[acoustic osprey]

go to OLYMPUS Transmitter and !
dies via cardiac arrest

no reason why

[lethal moat]

Unless I intended on going down with my action, I’d avoid anything major tbh, pass on information to other people, let them take the more serious risks

[acoustic osprey]

i do say it does certainly depend on the philosophy of your intent

[acoustic osprey]

same at D10

[bright shoal]

Walter, i mean Dracula, where are you getting D10 from?

[acoustic osprey]

walter...

[bright shoal]

ahhhh

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[bright shoal]

I wonder if they are all water containers because they also use those for chemicals

[acoustic osprey]

probably made for water, original purpose

but likely, if they need to, will put select chemicals in there
especially since they have barrels for isopropyl alcohol

[bright shoal]

but what if the labels change

[acoustic osprey]

in lore or in development?

[bright shoal]

both? like if some are water and some end up with a diffeerent label for idk cyanide or something.

[acoustic osprey]

i doubt in development
especially since, seemingly, the model has just been updated
and it still says it has water in it

but in lore i can imagine it having stuff like that in there

just, they'd have to be careful what they put in there
especially since it seems to be plastic

[fast forge]

There are safety regulations within manufacturing and laboratory workspaces that designate how stuff can be re-used. Typically it needs a very clear label showing the new contents

You also don't use the same containers in combinations that are dangerous or reactive

And you clean them thoroughly

[bright shoal]

i know i used to work around these types of containers. and i made things to contain spills if they were to happen in the oil field. lots of rules and regs. but i know they kept some chemicals (idr what kind) in them so i wonder if that can be said for same in game.

[acoustic osprey]

like you try not to use the same cutting board if you have used chicken

[bright shoal]

yeah no cross contamination

im not saying they actually use the same ones but the model itself with a diff label on it

[acoustic osprey]

probably
but i'd imagine, like what Tiny said, they'd have it (inlore) adjust labelling

honestly, for me, i am curious on the material used
seemingly, that is, plastic

i am pretty sure it says what it is

[bright shoal]

its a type of plastic.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
something plastic

[bright shoal]

at least IRL they are

I wonder is the water dirty in the dark one or whys it darker than the other?

[fast forge]

lol I just googled "liquid crate"

I didn't even know they were called that

[acoustic osprey]

seems to be completely darker
so probably different type of plastic?

says here
on the image i sent

EE-A Grade
C____D Plastic (celluoid?)

[bright shoal]

the metal cage is also seperate from the plastic bit. its pretty much a giant pallet cage around a large fuel can.(like the small red ones) but on a large scale.

ive seen someone use just the cage part for recycling cans

[hexed forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[lethal moat]

I will henceforth be viewing AE's behavior as comparable to Arasaka because that's a fun thing to try and picture

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-gif-22121645

i need to finish cyberpunk

[lethal moat]

Never played

I just enjoy the rivalries and corperate wars

[acoustic osprey]

Corporatocratic world, mayhaps

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/sds-gif-20505870

Walk up to a random hypsi, shake it telling it to wake up

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

Nothing is real, keep going, keep going, start again, keep going, live a little, you are strong, just once more
(Encouraging replicator)

[acoustic osprey]

you're doing great, keep on going