isle-lore-theories

[hexed forge]

Well I hope the new steam trailer has more horror aspects to it, would love that.

[mystic stirrup]

Nesting Troodon

[lethal moat]

Wrong channel?

[mystic stirrup]

Sorry

[lethal moat]

All good

[acoustic osprey]

I forgive you

[hexed forge]

I dont

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[acoustic osprey]

sure

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/servis-pembukaan-serius-fokus-kok-gif-15290411

[acoustic osprey]

average run response

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/scares-me-i-fear-no-man-gif-21507033

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/juggling-fire-gif-21336670

I really really hate those guys
silly little bean bags

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/blep-cat-angry-gif-13872775

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-jumpscare-jump-fall-animal-gif-11415143013926375079

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-bite-nom-attack-slo-mo-gif-12221453

[lethal moat]

I wonder what the first dinosaur they replicated was, and why they chose that one

[acoustic osprey]

Me

[lethal moat]

[lethal moat]

Genuinely might be Ben

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

A French bulldog puppy

[lethal moat]

Play dough creatures

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/french-bulldog-frenchie-cute-eating-gif-13756097

[fast forge]

great, now I want pizza

[hexed forge]

Glad I could help

[ornate comet]

Don’t shove me in a tank PLEASE

[ornate comet]

It was allo’s terrible old model

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/strike-bowling-bowling-ball-bowl-bowling-alley-gif-16627052708044010002

[lethal moat]

I need to say something to spark interesting discussion

https://tenor.com/view/random-bullshit-go-moon-knight-random-random-bullshit-gif-25725102

I can understand what they were going with for tisso and hyper, regeneration, strength, all valuable things, but why would they try and enhance the nervous system of another apex predator that isn’t themselves for neuro, why would they move to close the gap between one of their only advantages?

[lethal moat]

Also, boat

What sort of surveillance do they have on lakes and rivers

[knotty locust]

standard cameras i imagine

[lethal moat]

Alright

But what about under the water

[knotty locust]

for big lakes like in teh highlands area, probably some kind of sonar system to monitor the underwater region since its so massive

[lethal moat]

Active sonar: On
Kill all the sealife

[acoustic osprey]

Likely a mixture

Trailcams
Local monitor cams

Potential sentinel guards of sorts

[lethal moat]

Chip tracking, etc

[acoustic osprey]

basically

but I'd say that's a bit more yeah
on the idea of surveillance

well
no

I imagine chip tracking to be very useful

just harder with natural born offspring

I imagine a combination of MCAMs, TCAMs, regular 'ranger' visits (of the sorts) and chiptrackig
would've been used

gotta be prepared

[median shuttle]

my theory: Hubris

[acoustic osprey]

my theory: NO!!

[median shuttle]

the whole vibe I get from AE is one of Icarus flying to close to the sun and melting his wax wings, then plummeting into the sea

[acoustic osprey]

i can see that
but more so with Daedalus

AE being more akin to Daedalus than Ikarios

[median shuttle]

I mean kinda? The Idea of GUTS does remind me of the minotaurs maze in a way, but daedalos wasnt very hubristic, he urged his son to not fly too high or too low

[acoustic osprey]

more akin
but not exactly like

AE doesn't really fly too high
but they clearly do create

[median shuttle]

And I do think theres this inherent Hubris in Humans thinking theyre above nature while were actually just another link in the chain

[acoustic osprey]

there is definitely a believed ego that AE may contain

there's a lot of ego that would come from being able to create life

but the idea of AE creating matches a lot of ideas with daedalus

[median shuttle]

I mean with the company called Apollo theres certainly some god complex somewhere in the upper echolons of the corporate structure

[acoustic osprey]

aye
Don has commented on that with my talkings some time last year on the topic

however, I don't believe AE to be akin to the pure ego/youth of Ikarios

[median shuttle]

I wouldnt say 100% but theres some similarities

[acoustic osprey]

there's still a lot of similarities with Daedalus though as well

[median shuttle]

would be cool if we get a named quetz for an incident report or sth either named daedalus or ikarios

[acoustic osprey]

we still know they have a chiptracking system

plus tons of TCAMs and MCAMs as well

plus several security teams under different aspects

i doubt AE have the youthful bliss of Ikarios

to simply ignore the rules and systems of the natural world

but to doubt they have (fairly good amount) some sort of ego would be silly

however, the reflect on ikarios' story

the idea of Ascensionism does actually relate to an extent with the aspect of god-complex

if you take in the written study of the story

[median shuttle]

theres definetly precaution, but to quote Ian Malcom "the kind of control you're attempting its not possible. (...) Life will not be contained, Life breaks free it expands to new Territory and it crashes through barriers. Painfully maybe even Dangerously but (....) Life uhh finds a way."

[acoustic osprey]

chaos theory, quite truly

you cannot truly predict the weather

like you cannot truly predict nature

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-jurassic-gif-7496067

[acoustic osprey]

and such nature, the nature of existence, can be quite random

[median shuttle]

gonna brb gotta eat some food and have coffee

[acoustic osprey]

do like the contrast with JP2's novel Complexity Theory
fitting for the 2nd novel too, being as Complexity Theory is more scientifical than mathematical

[acoustic osprey]

👌

[acoustic osprey]

both chaos and complexity go into the same idea, practically, still though

but yeah
you can never be so safe

and as many parameters that you set up

there's always another factor, something you wouldn't even expect, to shove itself right up into your face

this is what I imagine when Don refers to the "Holy War" thing

they protected so much inside, their creatures and assets
and forgot to build proper "walls" on the outside (metaphorically speaking)

[fast forge]

you think it's possible the "dino holy wars" might also tie into AE's god complex?

[acoustic osprey]

i think poetically, potentially

but i believe that was more so on the idea of external parties dealing/coping with what AE does

[chrome acorn]

Dino wars 2

[rose zinc]

Lore

[acoustic osprey]

please go back

[rose zinc]

Can you link me to back?

[acoustic osprey]

oh sure #evrima-sa

[valid geyser]

That or #legacy-servers

[fast forge]

I was just thinking... big biotech company makes immortality

Bunch of techbros fall in love with the idea and make a religion/cult around it

[acoustic osprey]

could be something

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-adeptus-mechanicus-mechanicus-warhammer-tech-priest-gif-14919800332216808310

[acoustic osprey]

yeah basically

[robust ether]

LOOK AT IT, LOOK AT THIS BLACK MAGIC HES STOLEN MY WORDS

[acoustic osprey]

yay

-# theft is lore

[robust ether]

https://tenor.com/view/verne-stare-gif-24447130

[lethal moat]

What did you steal?

[acoustic osprey]

more

there's always never enough

[lethal moat]

I just pictured a scientist looking at an oviraptor “What’s that? What do you have in your mouth?” And then it just sprints off like a dog

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/daridebeliq-dari-darko-frenchbulldog-guilty-gif-7298446155774703034

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-pup-puppy-doggy-baby-gif-5551796

Has there been any new lore?

Have been busy IRL and not really active in here.

Just come in from time to time to post a meme

[lethal moat]

Sadly no

I’m considering asking Lorecord to map out what they think Tartarus is

[hexed forge]

I think its a giant testing facility, the place where they test and contain their most dangerous assets.

[lethal moat]

Alright, I need detailed blueprints with explanations

[acoustic osprey]

haha

no.

[snow jasper]

not on gateway :>

[lethal moat]

Alright, what do you think not gateway looks like?

[valid geyser]

Probably not like gateway

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/peppapig-hangup-gif-19315218

[snow jasper]

:<

[acoustic osprey]

but the quote...

to be fair
"Gateway to Tartarus"

i'm 100% on Tartarus is on Gateway

however, to be fair though
if anything, it'd be "under"

I still believe Tartarus is connected to Gateway some way or anotehr

whether it literally be underground for Gateway

Gateway is the gateway

[lethal moat]

Gateway could be a checkpoint

You must go through this way to get to a different island

Else

[acoustic osprey]

all synonyms!!!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/plananx-ciws-gif-18207820

[acoustic osprey]

if anything
I see Gateway being the checkpoint/bottleneck/gateway for Tartarus specifically

[lethal moat]

Right

But what is tartarus 🎙️

[acoustic osprey]

uh oh

https://tenor.com/view/jurassicpark-jurassic-parc-jurassic-jurassic-park-movie-jurrassic-park-gif-24925951

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-john-hammond-jurassic-park-gif-16041604

[snow jasper]

See, not on, but under :>

[acoustic osprey]

#evrima-sa

[fossil nebula]

"i am completely and mentally stable, oh look a civilian airliner"

[lethal moat]

Good old CWIZ

[quiet wyvern]

Hypo containment facility trust 🐬

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1205981060194893855/1222211761676095538/uPQorVRR.gif

[hexed forge]

All I can see is a concrete pillar

[quiet wyvern]

Yeah I did!

https://tenor.com/view/savages-pocahontas-gif-14873743

[valid geyser]

Are we 100% sure Tartarus is an actual physical location or isn’t some label for a means of transfer or containment that isn’t literally physical (I confused myself writing this so I’m not sure I can explain.)

[lethal moat]

We really haven’t seen a lot of it

But while looking for quotes, i did get the thought that the T in TOMB could have been Tartarus

[ornate comet]

If it’s an actual location you think it will be human only or will some dinos be able to get there.

Assuming it’s gonna be part of the map and not just part of the story

[lethal moat]

Imagine being a human exploring the most dangerous part of the island and you forget to close the door behind you

[ornate comet]

You’re all terrified and you hear some footsteps from the dark and it’s just a beipi

[lethal moat]

Controlled by a neuro theri yes

I never even stopped to consider what theri strains could look like

[ornate comet]

Neuro theri but all feathers are tentacles

[lethal moat]

You know that massive axolotl from the new fallout show that has fingers instead of teeth?

[ornate comet]

Oh god

I really hope herbivores get strains and not just carnivores

[lethal moat]

🤞

[ornate comet]

Imagine a hyper trike

[ornate comet]

What would it even eat tho? Maybe it gets to be an omnivore and eat bodies in addition to plants because I’m sure a hyper trike isn’t gonna wanna go to the migration zone

[zenith frigate]

probably ground

[lethal moat]

Have you seen this yet? It’s not really related but it’s interesting #general-feedback message

[ornate comet]

Cool idea

I just thought of something…hyper rex and hyper Rex sparring each other

Would be like a kaiju battle lol

[lethal moat]

If apexe battles can be heard from across the island, I wonder what that’s like

[hexed forge]

Alright coming back to this message. What did you mean by blueprint? Like what specifically do you need me to detail about what I think tartarus is

[lethal moat]

Eh, just an in depth explanation works, I’m just bored

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/familyguy-stewie-excited-cooking-time-gif-13208372

[fast forge]

Creepy beipi footsteps
slap slap slap slap slap slap...

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-of-madagascar-gif-21075436

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/madagscar-penguins-kaboom-gif-9833865

[lethal moat]

I need a picture of the broken hyper fences so I can go on a rant about how I think it’s people and not animals that did that

[hexed forge]

bet

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664914260648001555/826999865392889887/Destruction.gif

[hexed forge]

Do you need the ones ingame too?

Well the ones above are ingame too, but I guess the ingame ones would be a good reference. (With all the foliage, etc)

[lethal moat]

I’m of the opinion

That explosions are what broke the hyper fences

Or at least some of them

[hexed forge]

I agree that atleast one seems like it couldve been destroyed by an explosion.

Talking about the one NE, the small hole in the fence. Well atleast small compared to the rest of the destroyed fences.

[lethal moat]

Explosive penetrators, similar to HEAT rounds

[hexed forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

I doubt it's not a location in how it has been referred to in both legacy and evrima lore

Whether it be a whole facility or just a place
Colloquial or not

[hexed forge]

What was Tartarus in Legacy lore?

[lethal moat]

The Khorne console stream thingy

Imagine we got something like that today

[hexed forge]

Do I send the link to the google document or should I just copy and paste the entire thing.

(Its not much)

[lethal moat]

Dealers choice

[hexed forge]

hmmmm alr

uhhh, does the link work?

[fast forge]

Access Denied

[hexed forge]

Crap, give me a second.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1kTOtSQOYrEJk5F7v7g37aYT2ZDmEUWAW9UbBqntmmgc/edit?usp=sharing

What about now?

Thats my idea

[lethal moat]

Neato

[hexed forge]

Still didnt fill out the "What is it in legacy lore" since I am not sure what it is.

I heard Isaac say its the place of where Dinosaurs were created? But I am not sure.

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[lethal moat]

I’m really curious how gen 1 interact with the replicator

[acoustic osprey]

Creation facility for strains

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/peppapig-hangup-gif-19315218

[acoustic osprey]

At least, we knew they made strains in there

[hexed forge]

I can fill out all my questions now

Cant wait to add all the terms and make this 50 pages

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dennis-nedry-laughing-hysterically-jurassic-park-gif-14298929

[acoustic osprey]

Don't forget it was also a person, like Gaia, an embodiment of the pit itself

With that
Being the father/parent for many monsters

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-notes-bj-novak-the-office-gif-10700649

[lethal moat]

But Typhon and Echidna

[acoustic osprey]

TARTAROS MADE TYPHON!!

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[acoustic osprey]

And echidna as well

We love greek mythology

[lethal moat]

Grandpappy of monsters maybe

[hexed forge]

Tartaros has a nice business, I see.

Well, 3 stars.

[acoustic osprey]

Father of THE monsters
Grandfather of the lowly monsters

Fits with legacy

Tartarus isn't the creation lab, one of many, but...
It's the creation facility for the most important things though

[lethal moat]

You have that audacity to call drakon and manticore lowly monsters

[acoustic osprey]

In contrast to echidna and typhon, yes

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

It's like contrasting the original top stars of the 50s to today

However
More magical

And more godlike

[hexed forge]

Creation facility for one of the most special, unique, and potentially dangerous assets.

(Augustus fitting the special and unique category)

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

To an extent
That works

Whatever AE find very successful and worthwhile

[hexed forge]

Oh wow, I actually get something right.

[acoustic osprey]

Link to Tartarus

[lethal moat]

50s don’t have anything on Sabaton and dark country

[acoustic osprey]

But that still depends on how much Tartarus is as a whole

[lethal moat]

We know people can get sent there as well

[acoustic osprey]

Is it many things? Or just one?

[hexed forge]

So potentially like GUTS.. a system of some sorts?

[acoustic osprey]

Is it like Shrek though? Being sent there for relocative-work (bit slave like in lore)

[hexed forge]

The TARTARUS system

[acoustic osprey]

You stuffed around? You shall be sent to work in the mines (Tartarus)

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

[hexed forge]

Have fun feeding the hyper rex babies

[acoustic osprey]

Less so a system
More so umbrella, CC to an extent or mega facility

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-it-on-breaking-glass-glass-brick-gif-15912650

[acoustic osprey]

Gotta find out what the punishments are

Well
We either will be fed the info or we'll find it.

Lol

Wouldn't mind more of the "finding it out ourselves" though

[lethal moat]

Lineage displacement is fun wording because I think of it as future replications than as actual family

[hexed forge]

Doesnt it quite literally mean

"Kill your entire lineage"

Well it could be something else than kill, but basically it still references your family. I dont understand how it could be referencing replications

[lethal moat]

Lineage is just descendants

[acoustic osprey]

Displacement doesn't really mean kill though

[lethal moat]

Replications of you could be considered descendants

[hexed forge]

I know, it could be something else than kill

Kidnap your entire lineage and make them work in Tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

@hexed forge

Too late!!!

[hexed forge]

@hexed forge

To confuse your opponent, you must confuse yourself.

[lethal moat]

Which is scarier?
You and 5 people you care about get sent to live in Tartarus for the rest of life
OR
You live out the rest of your contract in Tartarus

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

Also which can actually be feasibly enforced

[acoustic osprey]

1 life vs 1000

Such 1 life might only be 1 life though

And the 1000... who knows what's after it

[hexed forge]

Payed 1 week vacation

[lethal moat]

Like how you can reenlist in the military

[lethal moat]

Maybe it’s a choice?

That sent weird on my screen

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/quinn-dog-quinn-dog-gif-22355715

"vacation"

[acoustic osprey]

i suppose it depends on the contract itself
At least, with 1000 lives and all

[hexed forge]

Soooooooooooo

Lineage and yourself get sent to Tartarus to work, you get 1000 lives, and your lineage gets 1 life

Or

You live in tartarus for 1000 lives?

[acoustic osprey]

Lineage and yourself get sent to Tartarus to work, you get 1000 lives, and your lineage gets 1 life

that's if you get 1000 lives

[lethal moat]

Depends on if that was addressed to someone who signed the contract

[hexed forge]

mmmmm

[acoustic osprey]

do AE employees also have Profiles?

[lethal moat]

They have badges, so even if it’s not an EIP, they’re definitely on records

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[lethal moat]

Which makes sense, people only don’t keep records if they’re doing very shady stuff

[acoustic osprey]

hyper fence is definitely next to it
Looks like a wall

Likely part of the containment facility?

[hexed forge]

Is there anymore context to what Uga said before he sent the image?

[hexed forge]

Anything more?

[acoustic osprey]

nah

[lethal moat]

Door

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[acoustic osprey]

when people saw the first one
they said it looked like a "hallway"

[acoustic osprey]

1st and 2nd images are different
i believe 1st is inside whatever it is

[hexed forge]

Its the habitation facility thingy, the second one is atleast.

[lethal moat]

I can’t even tell what the first one is, I see some wack lines

[hexed forge]

The 1st one is......

Did I make it bigger?

[lethal moat]

Yes

[hexed forge]

Nice, it worked

Oh wow, its working.

[acoustic osprey]

I believe it's one part of it

[hexed forge]

Reached the maximum discord size, oof.

Now how do I make the quality better

[lethal moat]

Yeah I can’t tell what that is at all lol

[hexed forge]

I see a doorframe

Well, not a doorframe.

Im increasing the image quality using.. some random website.

[zenith frigate]

hallway with nothing discernable and no way to figure out the scale

yipee

[lethal moat]

I wouldn’t trust that website

[hexed forge]

hold on

Its not letting me copy the damn image

[zenith frigate]

screenshot it

[hexed forge]

There.. is no difference...

[lethal moat]

Yep

[hexed forge]

The pillars are a bit more clear but everything else is still blurry af

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[fast forge]

this size is kinda ideal, it's like pixel art, increasing size reduces overall clarity

[hexed forge]

I clicked the highest one, was that my mistake-

Oh wait you were replying to smthn diff

[lethal moat]

Nah, image enhancing doesn’t work

[hexed forge]

yeah probably

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[hexed forge]

Well, you could see 2 pillars, and a hallway.

[fast forge]

looks like a nearly collapsed shack to me

[lethal moat]

Or a shaded wall with two openings in it

[acoustic osprey]

"The two pillars" looks like light

The background is too dark to have really bright pillars

[hexed forge]

Light is coming in from above

[acoustic osprey]

No

[hexed forge]

yes

[fast forge]

I see a tin shack

[acoustic osprey]

The top is darker

[zenith frigate]

window or computer screen casting light from the right side

[acoustic osprey]

The light is hitting the top
Likely a reflection of light

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah
The ceiling is light but still darker

The opening from the corner is likely where the light is coming from

[acoustic osprey]

You can see the light dispersing away from the ceiling from the initial light from the wall(s)

[zenith frigate]

its not blue light on the ceiling though

theres light coming from multiple places with different colors

[hexed forge]

Oh wait, arent we both saying the same thing rn?

[acoustic osprey]

How you're saying it
Is that light is coming from the ceiling

[hexed forge]

Through a window

[zenith frigate]

orange light coming from behind the camera

blue from a window on the side

[hexed forge]

I just noticed the blue thing on the side.

[acoustic osprey]

The right light is likely from this window

[hexed forge]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah

[acoustic osprey]

The warmer kelvin light is likely part of an interior light that's hidden

Or just how the lighting reflects off the building

Which creates a darker tone

[hexed forge]

Is this a shadow? Or an object..?

[zenith frigate]

i thought it was a corner

[acoustic osprey]

Looks like a wall

And the light likely an opening of sorts

[acoustic osprey]

You can see through the window to the other side
So it seems unfinished of sorts

Unless it's some sort modular connector to a building

(That likely being the containment facility)

[hexed forge]

mhm

The reason the image is low res is because people missed it twice!

[zenith frigate]

also the image was blurry on top of being low quality so we might be seeing things that arent there

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/they-have-all-failed-fail-failure-cruel-judgmental-gif-11502866

[acoustic osprey]

Not out of the ordinary anyways from vis

[zenith frigate]

it was 3 times i think

[hexed forge]

Rereading the conversation from Uga, it seems like both images are the same facility. (Habitation facility)

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-you-probably-right-jason-sounds-about-right-i-think-youre-right-correct-gif-26490955

[zenith frigate]

theres another structure in the corner that might be it

containment building just looks like 4 walls
no place for a hallway

[hexed forge]

Its

Big.

[zenith frigate]

its a different containment

smaller

[hexed forge]

And wide

I would say there could definitely be a hallway in there.

[zenith frigate]

door goes straight outside

its a different containment

[hexed forge]

Is that a normal sized door down there?

[acoustic osprey]

It might not be finished

And that, like referred to before, might be a modular part for the building

If it "adds" onto a building, it wouldn't need a back wall

[lethal moat]

Or the wiring could be to prevent people opn top from falling off? Like around the helepads?

[hexed forge]

There is no space for a helipad up there

[acoustic osprey]

Unless it's unfinished at the moment

[lethal moat]

Right, it was a comparison, or it might not be finished

[hexed forge]

These things, are taking it up,

Are those satelites?

[acoustic osprey]

Doesn't really look like it

[hexed forge]

Wait no, thats the wrong word, Solar panels I believe is the right word.

[acoustic osprey]

Looks translucent though

[acoustic osprey]

Wouldn't be translucent

[hexed forge]

(Friendly reminder that English isnt my first language )

[acoustic osprey]

Unless you're referring to thing behind it

[hexed forge]

behind

[hexed forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

This could be, yes
However, weird to just have one though

[fast forge]

dang it

[hexed forge]

🤔

[acoustic osprey]

My keyboard is set to three
I hate autocorrect because of l-isfidi

Because it'll correct to a very different word I do not need

[zenith frigate]

are we talking about the building behind or the wires

[fast forge]

just structures

[hexed forge]

What are those languages

[zenith frigate]

ok

[acoustic osprey]

Malti and lingua latina

[hexed forge]

I see

[acoustic osprey]

To be fair
This looks closer

[acoustic osprey]

One high Germanic
One romance
One Semitic
Lol

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

Not helpful at all

[fast forge]

This view makes me think of an open hatch or trapdoor #isle-lore-theories message
This view makes me think of a raised structure on the top #isle-lore-theories message

[zenith frigate]

its a raised thing on top

[zenith frigate]

probably just a design choice

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-iasip-charlie-conspiracy-gif-11562330

[acoustic osprey]

1 looks like a hyper fences
2 looks like one of the large sheds on Gateway

[zenith frigate]

OH those are numbers

[acoustic osprey]

3 could be any large building

Large as in pretty large

[fast forge]

or just this part

[zenith frigate]

they arent the same structure but it might be the same choice in architecture

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
It's all done by AE
So the architecture would be the same anyways

[zenith frigate]

I feel like this is not the part we should be focusing on

[acoustic osprey]

Nuh uh

[zenith frigate]

Herreras am I right

[fast forge]

👀

[acoustic osprey]

Ok but when vat...

[fast forge]

Soon, Tim

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859369469482631168/1174008360723546122/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

Also, the pin message button almost got pushed instead of reply lol

[acoustic osprey]

Yes it should be pinned

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rogue-one-k2so-congratulations-you-are-being-rescued-youre-being-rescued-gif-22411293

[lethal moat]

I would like for us see some more stuff on vats, that teeny tiny image from awhile back makes my eyes hurt when I look at it

[acoustic osprey]

We need 4 more pixels

[hexed forge]

Don said he wouldl set some vats up for us soon... it's been a month since he said that

Well, almost a month

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-gif-2746084063819743383

[hexed forge]

"Best I can do is half a pixel" - Uga probably sometime in his mind

[acoustic osprey]

Soon

[spiral elbow]

You guys are absolutely insane with your conspiracy theories, I love it

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-gregory-house-sad-crying-compassion-gif-14821639

[zenith frigate]

I leave now

[acoustic osprey]

What do you mean with open

[zenith frigate]

its open

not closed

[acoustic osprey]

From what

[acoustic osprey]

It should be getting light like the ceiling is

[zenith frigate]

what should

thats a doorway

[hexed forge]

That's a lot of arrows

[acoustic osprey]

Then why did u put open on the dark area

[zenith frigate]

because its an open doorway

[acoustic osprey]

It's hard to explain

What do you mean

I mean I know what you mean

[zenith frigate]

Ceratos am I right

[hexed forge]

What

[acoustic osprey]

What

[zenith frigate]

What

[hexed forge]

@spiral elbow you were indeed correct about our insanity a few minutes ago

[spiral elbow]

[acoustic osprey]

Soon

[hexed forge]

Soon

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so

[valid geyser]

Nuhuh

[knotty locust]

lore addicts desperate for a fix arguing over the positioning of a doorway

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/quinn-dog-quinn-dog-gif-22355715

[acoustic osprey]

(meant habitation)

[strange shell]

Sometimes I feel like this place is becoming the new meme channel
Thankfully only 11 months left until June's big lore drop

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-jumpscare-jump-fall-animal-gif-11415143013926375079

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-antony-rome-bread-philippi-mark-antony-bread-marc-antony-bread-gif-18090985

it always has been, that's the thing

[zenith frigate]

Cant wait
Gonna time travel real quick

[acoustic osprey]

you must wait

[zenith frigate]

Im back with good news
The void has consumed everything

[lethal moat]

Olympus transmitter my bloved

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

off till further notice

[lethal moat]

I will be the one to reactivate it

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/marc-antony-rome-hbo-rome-antony-rome-hbo-rome-marc-antony-gif-25297315

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/shaggy-are-you-challenging-me-scooby-gif-13519095

[acoustic osprey]

uh oh

[lethal moat]

[zenith frigate]

Banana peppers

[acoustic osprey]

something real cool

nope
was talking about Gen2s, lol

[hexed forge]

On the HT debug, I played with a few friends as human and night was extremely fun. Especially the jungles.

(We got lost several times)

Sadge that the qa debug server was only up for an hour or so

[median shuttle]

yo, I just realised, how are none of the animals on the island subject to the Island effect/Foster's rule?

[zenith frigate]

No

[hexed forge]

I mean, they might be, we just ofcourse cant see that ingame due to "Its just a game reasons" probably.

[fast forge]

because evolution takes a long, long time

[median shuttle]

well yes, but with herrera evolving the ability to climb and the replicator doing it's thing evolution could happen a lot faster on AE's Islands.

Though it could be that AE is actively supressing the Foster's rule by allowing only certain bloodlines to continue

[fast forge]

ehhh herrera's was "an emergent ability to climb", not really the result of evolutionary pressure
This is different from island dwarfism, which takes many generations (and big animals have very slow evolution because they don't breed fast)

[hexed forge]

Herrera was also an EIP(most likely)

And I still am not sure whether what Dondi meant with that one gif reply...

[median shuttle]

We dont really know that

[hexed forge]

Not 100% confirmed yes

[lethal moat]

It’s artificial evolution, they can do just about whatever they want

[median shuttle]

yeah I think thats most likely it

[fast forge]

yes

[lethal moat]

You know what would be really sick?
A rapidly evolving creature that can intake biomass and reproduce certain physical properties

[median shuttle]

do you mean the matriarch?

[hexed forge]

Ben

Ben is actually a failed form of the Matriarch, imagine.

Failed test

[lethal moat]

Pfft

Yeah

[hexed forge]

I hope the next map change includes some human structures

(Attempting to revive chat)

[lethal moat]

Dockyards and piers would be sick https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1085583414704472185/1085586931724857404/image3.png?ex=6693f01d&is=66929e9d&hm=7230895bc597324727052a97dec5cf479f9a310df4c9a58ac6b5d51cbc4ff20e&

[hexed forge]

I wonder.. when docks release, would it only be one location. Or would multiple dock locations be added, since we know there isn't only 1 dock location on gateway.

[hexed forge]

Is that a jetski?

In the water

[fast forge]

I think it will be a bit like this, with a number of small facilities, and then a couple bigger ones, with the biggest on SE island

[hexed forge]

Mhmm

[slim ingot]

Can someone help me, I'm bugged in a stone, can someone help me? there is some way to get out of there

[hexed forge]

Wrong chat

[slim ingot]

where ai support@hexed forge

[hexed forge]

If you are on an NA server #evrima-na
SA server: #evrima-sa
AU Server: #evrima-au
EU Server: #evrima-eu

[median shuttle]

omg, jetskis would be so sick... imagine riding a jetski with beipis breaching besides you like dolphins

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-gif-10227767894414380020

Would indeed be cool

[lethal moat]

I think it’s hustle a low profile fishing boat

Maybe something like this https://assets.basspro.com/image/upload/b_rgb:FFFFFF,c_pad,dpr_2.0,f_auto,h_250,q_auto,w_400/c_pad,h_250,w_400/v1/ProductImages/200/master1_100894706_alt1?pgw=1

But with a larger engine on the back

[hexed forge]

I see

[lethal moat]

Or it’s another motorized dingy like in the cherry concept art

[lethal moat]

Look at Frank go

[hexed forge]

Hes trying his best

[acoustic osprey]

AE likely very moderates these animals to match the environment
Alongside, that takes time before it starts happening

[acoustic osprey]

^ and it was less physical and more so behavioural too. We don't really know how it happened besides it surprised AE

[hexed forge]

EIP insanity!!!

I wish we wouldve gotten a more clear clarification on what Don meant by that gif

[lyric patio]

I hope the Anky will have the abillity to 1 tap smaller dinos and medium in the head nearly like the legacy anky but with Bone break

[hexed forge]

wrong chat

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-homelander-mk1-thumbs-up-antony-starr-gif-16785599914112622767

[lethal moat]

Wonder if any of the strain creatures will end up going for a skullcrawler vibe

[acoustic osprey]

matriarch final phase

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/king-kong-kong-skull-island-skullcrawler-ramarak-looking-around-gif-25544316

Overall similar shape to tapwing’s old art

[acoustic osprey]

just in the water more

[lethal moat]

I wonder how much damage a single paper pusher at AE could do if they really wanted to

[hexed forge]

Rumple has just been spamming matriarch lore in isle discussion.

Summoning ritual for proper matriarch lore?

[lethal moat]

pLEASE

[valid geyser]

MATRIARCH.

[hexed forge]

The lore people summon...

MATRIARCH LORE

[lethal moat]

Tisso lore would also be great

[valid geyser]

Tisso Lore would be great..

[hexed forge]

Tisso Lore would be great..

[median shuttle]

I just wanna go inside the domes

[hexed forge]

Soon....

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 should get bee hive catapults

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-kombat-homelander-mk1-thumbs-up-antony-starr-gif-16785599914112622767

[valid geyser]

I WILL throw bees at you

[lethal moat]

BEE GRENADES

Toss it into bunkers

[meager junco]

Gen 1 casually going into sanctuaries to collect bees and not to kill babies

[lethal moat]

Exactly

https://tenor.com/view/token-titans-tokentitans-titans-gb-lfb-gif-15320720575825184082

[meager junco]

It’s either that, or skunk stink bombs(add skunk AI just for this purpose)

[lethal moat]

Wonder if we’ll ever get an Archimedes reference?

[acoustic osprey]

Depends

He's not really mythology

Potential with him for some sort of engineering code

Classification
Like deimos, etc

[lethal moat]

Socrates

[lethal moat]

One of the coolest guys I ever met

[acoustic osprey]

Literally!!

[acoustic osprey]

quiet time tonight

i'm actually pretty clean in the head right now
usually could think of something to discuss ... even if it's by myself

probably could discuss something in-game (HT or Evrima) but won't be home till Friday

we already did 291 recently
so can't really chat much about such

could relook at AUGUSTUS and Dibble?
But I feel like there's nothing else to gather from atm

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/JWRFECM6Ev8
I want this song to fit in a lore meme

but I honestly can't think of one

let's just title these few weeks
Lore Block

Like artist block
but with lore

[young viper]

get a gen2 standing in the dark pic and put a scary looking gen1 right behind the gen2

[hexed forge]

That could work

[hexed forge]

Was Augustus an EIP or not

[acoustic osprey]

most likely yes

[hexed forge]

mhmm

[acoustic osprey]

i doubt EIPs are solely just one thing
like just Gen2s or Gen1s or Dinos

but I definitely AUGUSTUS is special/different from your normal dino

at least, not being "natural off-spring"

mostly due to the contrast between the tag for AUGUSTUS vs the Dibbles

[patent ginkgo]

hey isaac, have you ever seen native heptapleurum trees in australia?

cause these may be the umbrella tree species on gateway

not that its currently lore but still

[acoustic osprey]

looks familiar

nah, they don't grow in my state

they're more tropical than where i live

[patent ginkgo]

ah ok

also, pretty sure these new water plants are just basil, lol

[acoustic osprey]

lol

they look like it

[novel crypt]

Is that a screenshot of in game?

[patent ginkgo]

yes

those are on the shores of the central river at the area where it splits to go east

[hexed forge]

@patent ginkgo Should you add a background color for the "Not ingame" column?

It would look more neat I think

Also adding more information on the plants itself would be neat

[thin vine]

OH

[hexed forge]

oh

[valid geyser]

Oh

[carmine marsh]

no

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-the-plant-vegans-gif-23768796

[patent ginkgo]

I’ll do that in a bit

[hexed forge]

👍

[fast forge]

I like Bunya Pines

I like all of the Araucariaceae

(say that scientific name 5 times fast )

[hexed forge]

Aricarica

🗿

[patent ginkgo]

Ooh yes those are fun

[patent ginkgo]

I’ll do that if/when they get proper lore importance, as that’s a lot of work with not much gain, and some plants don’t even have a species specified

[hexed forge]

Alright

[lethal moat]

We haven’t had any theories along the lines of climate change in awhile, let’s get that discussion started again

[fast forge]

Oceanic megaflora for carbon sequestration seems probable to me

I also wonder if AE has made research into accelerated growth, which would be very helpful in creating enough photosynthetic biomass to make a dent in climate change

Something that would basically be required if Gateway is to have redwoods the size of real-life ones, as redwoods take hundreds of years to reach a very large size

[fast forge]

This could tie into various things, including strain research, and possibly the quick growth rate of the playable animals (if that's even canon)

[hexed forge]

AE probably does use accelerated growth, just not at the speed of the ingame growth probably

[patent ginkgo]

accelerated growth seems to be the thing that ties strains to climate change in terms of AE's projects

though it seems as though AE has pretty much mastered the more physical properties of the organisms they create

EIPs seem to be the more important "frontier" in current time

[hexed forge]

Does this mean that the camera was retrieved?

https://tenor.com/view/what-did-i-just-read-reading-samuel-johnson-joshua-reynolds-reaction-gif-14997728

But didnt we always think that the camera wasnt retrieved....?

[acoustic osprey]

i believe this means

they sent out a team to recover the equipment used to film

hence "source material"

[hexed forge]

Which is the camera

[acoustic osprey]

and such was successful
which is why we see those final seconds after the hit

[acoustic osprey]

aye
i presume only the 2nd camera and not the first

[hexed forge]

There were two cameras?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[hexed forge]

Huh, never knew that.

[acoustic osprey]

the human cameo is when the camera gets switched

[hexed forge]

Hmm, give me a second.

Oh yep, you are correct. The T-Cam numbers change. Huh, never noticed haha

But then why was it corrupted if they retrieved the first camera?

Atleast the first half of it shouldve been normal

[acoustic osprey]

because it was hit

note though

so

whatever happened
during retrieval
severe artifacting happened

why did we ever think it was "sent" via internet

[hexed forge]

hmmmmmm

[acoustic osprey]

we literally did see a human take the first camera

now I'm intrigued

also note this

Recovery operations for source material is ongoing

we should definitely be on the look out for these descriptions for now on

[hexed forge]

So it was not talking about the first camera.

The camera that was switched up

[acoustic osprey]

"ongoing"

[lethal moat]

I take this to mean “the original still exists in an archive, but this was retrieved remotely from said archive”

Is there currently a Neuro wandering the tunnels of gateway? More at 6

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-news-news-flash-report-gif-8607328

[acoustic osprey]

likely

1st TCAM was set up
-recording-
-gets hit-
1st TCAM get's switched and 1st TCAM file becomes "corrupted" (somehow)
-recording-
-gets hit again-
we found the 2nd TCAM and "in-lore" get's taken back and put into ARCHIVE (7) as well

[hexed forge]

The camera that was knocked over was being retrieved at that time. (Dibble video)
-->
When retrieved they managed to get a few more seconds of the recording before the camera completely lost connection/just broke. (Allo video)

[hexed forge]

Yes, so both cameras got retrieved.

https://tenor.com/view/gavel-case-dismissed-simpsons-gif-11209658

Now I wonder if we should follow the "Its just a game" logic.

[hexed forge]

If we overthink, we will end up with-

The lore video is taking place in the same time period that we play the game in, all AE employees are either underground or they arent working on the island anymore. The human seen in the video was a Gen2 sent to the island from GUTS or by boat.

https://tenor.com/view/cerebro-explosion-mind-blown-gif-8141811

Its safer to assume that the camera that is ingame is just in for "Its just a game" reasons.

[lethal moat]

I think the archive is the important bit that we don’t know enough about in this situation

[hexed forge]

And would likely be removed in the future.. perhaps.

[hexed forge]

Its just an archive of files

How could we overthink that?

[lethal moat]

Yeah, and we got the footage from that archive, but that footage is corrupted, and we don’t have the original materials, meaning this footage is a copy, as well as something causing severe artifacting when the video was retrieved from said archive

[hexed forge]

I see

[acoustic osprey]

either it's one of two things

either the description of the two videos aren't purely linked with their videos
i.e. the timeline of "source material being recovered" and "complete/found" does not match the videos
and therefore the "2nd" video could be presumed as not a 2nd video - if anything, the 2nd video would be the human puts the 2nd TCAM in

or
the descriptions match the video

█ Usgx-9921-c578 (B) isle ███. Recovery operations for source material complete. Moving file to ARCHIVE (7).
^ looking at this.
We can contrast that the first video wasn't "raw" footage. It was a file taken from ARCHIVE (7)
somehow something happened that caused artifacting - likely when the human found the camera
However. We actually know the first camera's original footage didn't exist (forgot lol)
Which makes me curious:
-If the 1st camera was destroyed beyond repair (just able to record but very glitchy) then why was the 2nd camera (in the first video) still glitchy as well?

Sure it was knocked.
But from the description of the 2nd video, it seems like the original footage is "fine" (but still glitchy, likely due to being hit by the allo)

Recovery operations for source material complete. Moving file to ARCHIVE (7).
^noting this

"moving file ..."
in the present moment.
Likely means that on impact from the allo, as I'm presuming that all of the footage from the TCAMs were sent via the signal (as the tcam models have an antenna on them), was destroyed and unable to send such data/footage

I believe the second idea is more likely.
that the desc matches with the video
that there was a difference in time between the first and second
and that the 2nd video's file is likely, unlike the 1st video, the actual footage (makes me question though, why does it contain the same style of artifacting?

[hexed forge]

Could it be that it was being recorded live?

[acoustic osprey]

most definitely

we know it has an antenna on the model

that would be why the original footage from the 1st video no longer exists

also
we need to put the 2nd video somewhere

it was very hard to find it again lol

[lethal moat]

I think so

[hexed forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rVBfUgcCuw

I got all the lore videos up right now, 3 tabs haha.

[acoustic osprey]

honestly
I think i'm gonna make a drive when I get home

Rump
do you have pin perms? Probably want to do this in a few days or so

unless we link them all to your doc or something

especially the videos

[hexed forge]

Im going with the second idea, seems way more likely.

[acoustic osprey]

just depends
how literal do we take "original footage ... no longer exists" ?

Is it that that first video (in lore) was made before they found the actual 2nd TCAM

[hexed forge]

Im pretty sure he does, heard him talk about almost accidently clicking it in #isle-discussion

I think the lore video would be an acceptable pin. I dont know what the higher ups might think tho lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1262603153258582016/Screen_Shot_2024-07-16_at_9.54.05_am.png?ex=66973251&is=6695e0d1&hm=83781ac7f05de5c01580d1d94e42468b80194d85485e513e59131edd93df567d&
hence this

[acoustic osprey]

we could probably pin it
but the more videos and papers we get - i imagine we don't wanna "lore up" the pins with such lol

kinda just want something to store everything we've got in a neat area in the pins

[hexed forge]

The first video was a live recording perhaps, then the live recording ended with the connection being disrupting

Causing the "Recovery operations ongoing"

So yes, before they found the 2nd Tcam

[acoustic osprey]

likely

of course though
we can't hard confirm it
but the evidence points to it

[lethal moat]

We can put the links at the bottom

[hexed forge]

We can never hard confirm anything unless Don steps in and just says "yes"
Or unless we literally get the lore saying "Yes, its this"

[acoustic osprey]

i was thinking at the top

[lethal moat]

Ight

[hexed forge]

Bottom seems better

[acoustic osprey]

just so people can see the lore before they get described the lore

[acoustic osprey]

i hope he doesn't though

i like when Don gives us new lore
but i prefer stuff like this being a thing the community works on to describe

or just to rediscover and realise it in a bigger/better light

[hexed forge]

But wouldnt it be better to put a reference link that if the user clicks on it they get yeeted the video if they want to see it.

[acoustic osprey]

like
whenever we see something like "ONGOING" in the description of a video

we better better keep an eye out in game

[acoustic osprey]

how else would you do it

if anything
if you want

we can make a footnote/bookmark
that sends the user to the bottom of the doc

[lethal moat]

I think the first half of the footage was retrieved manually or remotely, don’t think it makes a difference since they took the camera anyways, and the second half was retrieved remotely, which would explain why it’s still on the island

[hexed forge]

Yeah, like that

[acoustic osprey]

press this "BOOKMARK" to send yourself to the lore media section of the doc, etc

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1262606544026210345/Screen_Shot_2024-07-16_at_10.02.44_am.png?ex=6697357a&is=6695e3fa&hm=9ec5878e9297911aa9e2c482126c2613f210871690e4ed10862613d54be8cf23&
we still have to note this though

some how
the original footage from the 1st TCAM no longer exists

[hexed forge]

Second one too

[lethal moat]

Because archive shenanagins

[acoustic osprey]

however that could be for several reasons
we have no timeline between when the TCAM was made and when the file was made

[acoustic osprey]

this is noting that the video was before they found the 2nd tcam

[hexed forge]

oh yeah, my bad.

[acoustic osprey]

heck
the human might've died (who had the first tcam)

[hexed forge]

Beautiful lore project idea. Noting that down.

[valid geyser]

What’s going on here

[acoustic osprey]

which would make sense for the video (split into two sections, first TCAM and second)
both have the same type of video glitching

[hexed forge]

Bodycam footage of a human running back to X base, ambushed by Y dino.

[acoustic osprey]

LORE

[valid geyser]

LORE??

[hexed forge]

No

[valid geyser]

Oh…

[acoustic osprey]

oh dude
imagine if we had to find another camera

this time
in the middle of a bushy forest

only thing making it easier could be
"near the closest outpost/resupply point"

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-i-like-that-captain-jack-sparrow-little-jack-gif-15559683640369424147

[acoustic osprey]

lore discussion (theorying)...

[acoustic osprey]

kinda like an AE Files video lol

[valid geyser]

This is so very unlikely
But imagine finding a quetz drone, like a downed one

That’d actually be so cool to find..
No idea what footage would be connected to it

[hexed forge]

In the river, the human tripped on air while running from a hypsi like any other horror character in media.

[acoustic osprey]

or even just one metallic piece of it

[lethal moat]

“Retrieve hard drive”

[hexed forge]

yea

[acoustic osprey]

imagine some sort of VO (voice over)
describing it like how Nedry died in the books

[valid geyser]

The head to a quetz drone, maybe a wing piece nearby

[acoustic osprey]

a video split into two

[lethal moat]

Under the assumption that TOMB is an archive, we know AE has had funky things go on in the past, like purging, so I wouldn’t be surprised if something along a similar vein happened in this instance

[acoustic osprey]

one section being some sort of AE worker
who is describing the events
likely saying it while writing it down

cross between the actual footage of the guy

[lethal moat]

Mangled bits and pieces you don’t recognize until you process the video

[acoustic osprey]

the 2nd sections not being "A - B"
more so mangled together

[hexed forge]

TOMB is connected to EIPs tho right.... would it contain actual reports from AE employees?

[acoustic osprey]

like lore!!!

[acoustic osprey]

potentially
Depends

maybe reports on the EIPs

if so
potentially our guy was a Gen2 whom had an EIP? potentially

we don't really know
both on who he is
and EIPs as well

[hexed forge]

Dr. Rumple experienced some insanity and for some reason started trying to climb a dangerous cliff as a rex... for no reason....Ima pass this microphone down to Dr. Rumple now.. @lethal moat

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

Now try imagine it in a comedy perspective, similar to The Office...

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-fool-me-once-fool-strike-strike-three-gif-10036428283547644146

Gimme some more ideas, has to be related to the dibble/allo video!

[valid geyser]

Quetz!

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/prehistoric-planet-season-2-dinosaur-pterosaur-t-rex-gif-14013559383979074699

[valid geyser]

Precisely

[lethal moat]

Augustus was also stored in the TOMB, I’m just saying, there could be a pattern of AE and poorly managed storage/containment of assets/information

[acoustic osprey]

just a video?

[acoustic osprey]

well
he was entombed

potentially being Tomb or something else

Notably
being "OLYMPUS relocaiton and entombment"

but i believe that has to be a reference to tomb

[hexed forge]

It will ofcourse have some extra lore stuff

For example:
Employee x going from point b to d blah blah, ambushed by what seems to be a small carnivorous therapod

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/chomp-bite-arm-gif-7083692912057941766

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
could do this

but like this / ERRANT-291

[hexed forge]

Saying it... like an actual voiceover ?

[acoustic osprey]

some sort of log / summary going over what happened

[acoustic osprey]

to an extent
yes

it'd have to be creative though
having it just be "he did this then this" is a bit boring

i'd only have it for more descriptive areas that you couldn't see from the cam

like referring to eyes watching
or how he died

in terms of the visceral description of guts being taken out etc

[hexed forge]

I see, but I cant do voiceovers. Unless there is some weird AI that can do it and have the 90s feel.

[acoustic osprey]

i could do it

[lethal moat]

Hearing anything from an actual character rather than an asset would be nice

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

[acoustic osprey]

heck
i'd bet a few people from lorecord could as well

[acoustic osprey]

even from an isle official youtube channel pov
I hope we get more unique videos

looking at AUGUSTUS and Dibble inj videos

[hexed forge]

If I get a proper script set up I could ask some people in lorecord to do a voiceover yeah

[acoustic osprey]

which have the same "vibe" (to an extent)
but really go in different and unique ways

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[lethal moat]

I’m sure there’d be no shortage of volunteers of people willing to have their voice in silly dinosaur game

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

It’s a fun idea though

[acoustic osprey]

mmmhm

[lethal moat]

But Dr. Rumple can never be a thing, just to spite lorecord

[acoustic osprey]

or can it

[lethal moat]

[valid geyser]

Dr. Rumple WILL be a thing

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-mortal-kombat-1-mk1-the-boys-omni-man-gif-13290065678128316882

[hexed forge]

It will

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/lizard-jumpscare-jump-fall-animal-gif-11415143013926375079

[acoustic osprey]

what about this for the time

should probably add links to the ERRANT docs as well

[hexed forge]

It works

[lethal moat]

I'm at my pc so I can update it now, just let me finish my fudgecicle

[acoustic osprey]

yay

@lethal moat
check again now

should be all done for the time being

[lethal moat]

Very nice

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-mr-krabs-the-deed-is-done-gif-25910570

I wonder if the camera ingame will be removed in the future

[lethal moat]

I hope not

[acoustic osprey]

hold on
one more time as well
at the top and bottom again, if you can Rump

thanks

also on Page 3 too

thanks!

[lethal moat]

👍

[acoustic osprey]

should be all good now

probably want to create a "pseudo" section for the other TCAM videos

[hexed forge]

The lore needs to connect to the game

[lethal moat]

It does

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-robert-downey-jr-gif-15118751

All the evidence leads to it being retrieved- but we ofcourse can't 100% confirm it.

But if we are right, I wonder if they can just move the camera to a resupply point or just some sort of base to show it being retrieved.

With the video URL being present ofcourse

[lethal moat]

The physical camera doesn't need to be retrieved

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
If anything

I'd like to see it being moved

[acoustic osprey]

In lore it seems like it was

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/incredibles-incredibles2-i-disagree-strongly-schafrillas-gif-14898227

[hexed forge]

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

Potentially not in game just to allow people to find it

[hexed forge]

Why

[lethal moat]

Come into my office (I'll be in vc in lorecord)

[acoustic osprey]

Nuh uh!!

[acoustic osprey]

Im taking my way through Thailand at thy moment

[hexed forge]

I can't join a vc rn

[hexed forge]

Explain it in words and letters

[lethal moat]

I'll have to give my lecture here then

[acoustic osprey]

We got rome lore in Thailand before the isle...

[hexed forge]

Interesting

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks

[hexed forge]

Order some De Mauro pizza

[lethal moat]

Thing #1: The file was retrieved from an archive, implying that it was stored in a database, meaning they have the video already somewhere

[hexed forge]

We are talking about camera being retrieved tho

[lethal moat]

Alright

[hexed forge]

The second*

Idk where the hell the word second went in that sentence

I hate phone typing

[lethal moat]

The camera doesn't need to be retrieved in order to get the video, and there were allosaurs nearby, I'd say that's good enough reason

[hexed forge]

But it was retrieved

[lethal moat]

How do you know?

[hexed forge]

The descriptions in both videos

If you add them both up

[acoustic osprey]

That was for the first video though

[hexed forge]

^

[lethal moat]

Source material doesn't have to mean camera, it can be original video, or the assets featured in the video

[acoustic osprey]

Usgx-9921-c578 (B) isle ███. Recovery operations for source material complete. Moving file to ARCHIVE (7).

[hexed forge]

If you add up both descriptions

We only seen the allo video because it was retrieved

[valid geyser]

Here we see lore people doing lore things

Speaking of lore..

Shall we ever understand it..?
No..
No they don’t either so..

[acoustic osprey]

Still though
They refer to "moving" to Archive 7

[lethal moat]

Moving the file

[acoustic osprey]

As if it was not ready yet

[acoustic osprey]

Aye
Which how else did they get it?

[hexed forge]

In the Dibble video, it says that they are SEARCHING for the source material.

In the allo video, it has been found.

The thing they found, was the continuation of the Dibble video.

[acoustic osprey]

And

Either it came from wireless
Or the physical device

If it came from wireless
Why wouldn't it be in the first video then?

[hexed forge]

The Dibble video was a live recording, and then it disconnected.

Allo video was the camera recording after the live connection got disconnected. Until it ultimately got crushed by the allo and stopped recording

[acoustic osprey]

And we know the second video is deliberate in lore

[lethal moat]

Remotely, which would also be a simpler explanation for why there was artifacting, because it's easier to get disrupted over digital medium, not in a USB

[acoustic osprey]

Refer to this then Rump

[hexed forge]

The Dibble video was the remote part tho, then it disconnected.

No connection

[acoustic osprey]

Knowing it has to be in the first video
As by that time, they said they didn't have the original footage

[hexed forge]

Yippee

[lethal moat]

#isle-discussion message

[acoustic osprey]

The second video being recollected does come under the assumption that the video was found/made after the first

[hexed forge]

That doesn't mean the allo video has no meaning in the lore

[acoustic osprey]

In lore

[acoustic osprey]

That doesn't really unconfirm the lore of it though

[hexed forge]

Thug

[acoustic osprey]

Phone...

[hexed forge]

I feel your pain

[acoustic osprey]

As that discussion was about confirming the shadow
Not lore

If anything
The second video was made more for the lore people

[hexed forge]

Anyways I'm going to go sleep, adios.

[lethal moat]

You're right, I'm just saying, it's in an archive when we found it, rather than us finding it counts as us putting it into said archive

[acoustic osprey]

Despite the contents not really being lore heavy

[lethal moat]

Have a good one

[acoustic osprey]

Still
I don't believe it was in the archive till "X" unknown people(s) from AE found it

Unlike the first video

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

I see your guys' point and you could be right, I just think it's the other thing

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-mortal-kombat-1-mk1-the-boys-omni-man-gif-13290065678128316882

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-ill-drink-to-that-bro-gif-12940340

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

[lethal moat]

Plurple

[fast forge]

perhaps long upload/download times due to technology limitations?

[acoustic osprey]

Usgx-9921-c578 (B) isle ███. Recovery operations for source material complete. Moving file to ARCHIVE (7).

Still this though

Specifically "recovery operations"

[fast forge]

you think it had to get physically retrieved then?

[acoustic osprey]

Recovered some how

More than likely physical

Like how we found it

I doubt it would be just 'took their time'

[fast forge]

then I would think "Moving file to ARCHIVE (7)" is also a physical action - Archive 7 is a location, a room or building

[lethal moat]

It could also be a server

[fast forge]

fair

[acoustic osprey]

Potentially

ARCHIVE could be the server room

7 being the 7th server

[acoustic osprey]

Like in perimeter

Weird to see the server models being removed though

Wonder why

[lethal moat]

I love me some logistics stuff, would love to see similar things back or in a different place

[acoustic osprey]

I'd love to see the camera moved once the HT is over

Get us ready for the next hunt

[lethal moat]

I’d rather it stay tbh, as long as they don’t plan to use the spot for anything else, it’s pretty obscure and out of the way

[acoustic osprey]

as cool as it is staying there
I think moving it would still be a nice homage

not removing, of course
but moving it to Perm or wherever

but that depends on who is right

[acoustic osprey]

@lethal moat
when you can
can you update my stuff on the doc, thanks!

[lethal moat]

I’ll have to do it in like, 9-11 hours, I’ve been forced off the PC

[acoustic osprey]

wah oh

(okey dokey, all good)

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2spy-he-could-be-any-one-of-us-gif-22141763

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-disagree-disagree-loki-tom-hiddleston-no-way-gif-22154549

If you mean that the physical camera got moved to archive 7.. then..eh.....

It's likely just a server where files are kept. No physical items.

[hexed forge]

I wonder if there is a specific color coding IRL that indicates levels.

[acoustic osprey]

I think that's possible

Or the storage card was

[hexed forge]

The physical camera being moved to archive 7?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

well
just the footage itself

archive (7) might be akin to Apollo Core

more so a data-esque server
than physical

[hexed forge]

So not the physical camera

[acoustic osprey]

that depends
we don't know

but files definitely

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[fast forge]

even in the 90's you saw a lot of physical film storage, not a lot of stuff was digital yet

I feel like it could go either way

[hexed forge]

Has archive 7 been mentioned in any other lore material?

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
we have things that should exist in the 00s and 10s

[acoustic osprey]

no

[hexed forge]

I see

[fast forge]

it's true, I'm just saying we can't know for sure one way or the other

[acoustic osprey]

the fact that the original footage from the first video no longer exists
likely suggests they digitised some/a bit of their footage

[hexed forge]

Well the entire Dibble video was through live recording that was moved to archive. Basically the footage instantly went to the archive

From what I understood

Just to show that they have some decent technology, not everything was on film(physical)

[fast forge]

no way it instantly moved to archive, a video clip that long back then would have been at least a 10 minute upload

[acoustic osprey]

that's not really a big worry

[hexed forge]

It was live

[acoustic osprey]

it'd also be a live, both that and from what we see from AUGUSTUS
either that would be stored to some sort of reel system - albeit i doubt
or sent directly to a server, digitised

[fast forge]

so satellite relay? I don't think AE had wifi

at least not in widespread use

[acoustic osprey]

they have a bunch of satellites
we also know the TCAM has antennas on them
plus AUGUSTUS video has a live broadcast section

[hexed forge]

Did they shorten the footage when taking it out of the archive? Kind of makes sense.

[fast forge]

yes, and the resupply points have satellite dishes
the little dibble field cam does not

[hexed forge]

It has an antenna.

And also why would the footage lose connection if it wasn't recording through live

[fast forge]

a small antenna would be used for radio transmissions
it's possible they used radio to transmit data, but I don't know how corrupted it might get

I really know little about data transmission via radio frequencies

[acoustic osprey]

You doubt the power of an antenna over a local range

[fast forge]

I just don't think you are getting high-quallity footage that way

[acoustic osprey]

Especially when we have things like The Replicator

[acoustic osprey]

You wouldn't
And we don't