suggestion-discussion

[opaque ravine]

I mean technically that could be said with any thing that sneaks up on you

[lofty wave]

Multiplayer already makes trolls easier to kill and a weak spot behind them would just make it even easier there while having very little effect in singleplayer

[pure patio]

Sure, but things that big have a much harder time in general in the game. Abominations don't, lox don't... Trolls are kinda unique like that, as big as they are they still seem to be able to materialize out of nowhere. You wearing their hide just makes you a smaller version of that.

[opaque ravine]

Fine, then I petition we have trolls bury themselves in the ground like Abominations do, and when you get close they wiggle themselves out of the ground.

In return, we add cheek multiplier damage to Abominations, once we locate their cheeks

[mellow crater]

When you aren’t used to spot them in the green-blue ambiant you can miss them in front of you, I can speak for all the friends I have who discovered this game with me

-# I am speaking of the troll, just in case

[opaque ravine]

That is true, but we are also talking about an armor bonus you get after already killing 5 trolls 😅 In which case, like... maybe its okay they are kinda easy to kill with an archery boost. But I digress, I just brought it up cuz I thought the bonuses were funny and theoretically could be switched.

Though about my second point... out of curiosity, what about adding +15 levels of crossbows to that armor? You wont get it until much later, but it could be a nice boost and make you go back to an older, squishier armor if you want faster reload earlier. And I mean, technically the Arbalest is a pre-boss item, as is Troll Armor, so they're teeechhnically in the same tier.

Only concerns I would have are 1) Maybe makes crossbows 'too strong' too early if you go back to that set. 2) Ruins the surprise of crossbows!

[velvet valley]

i just think its really counterintuitive and bad game design to have such an obvious weak spot not produce the expected outcome

[opaque ravine]

I second this. Nobody likes to be stabbed in the cheeks.

...well.... actually... *most * people dont like to be stabbed in the cheeks.

[velvet valley]

if i got stabbed in the cheeks i would probably say ouch really loud and be very hurt

[mellow crater]

Game design is also « what do you want your players to learn ? »

Do IG want their players to learn to aim for this spot in case of trouble ? Is your viking honorable doing this ? Do you want to encourage it ?

[opaque ravine]

WWOD - What Would Odin Do

[velvet valley]

i have added an ammendment

[pale drum]

what a shitpost

[mellow crater]

TensorSine your are laughing but it is a serious question I found in many a game-design book

What kind of community do you want ?
What are you doing to the brain of the player ?

[velvet valley]

im sorry for caring about the game clearly you dont take the realistic aspect seriously enough but thats fine i just hope some people can see the value in my recommednation

[lofty wave]

Being realistic isn’t going to make it a good idea

[velvet valley]

you still havent brought up any convincing counterarguments tbh

i would understand if it was something like a golem, but clearly trolls are fleshy (they even take extra piercing damage)

[mellow crater]

@eager plover removing fog inside room has been discussed a while ago and devs said it is impossible to check for closed room, but currently any fire destroys fog around it so you can actually remove fog that way

[opaque ravine]

what if they consider everywhere on their body part of their cheeks, so thats why they take pierce damage everywhere?

[mellow crater]

#suggestions message at least make them on guard when you have obviously spotted this #&!?% deadsquito…

[opaque ravine]

I wish there were a few more things added to mounts to make them more viable, but I dont want to ask for that because 1) Its a lot of work to implement probably 2) They may be reworking them at some point anyways

Like... portal travel... boat travel... some easy non-clunky way to get them on and off boats would be nice. Telling them to just stay or follow or stuff... better regen because once they get backstabbed theyre not at like 10 health.

[mellow crater]

All of that was already suggested also

You can still search these and add your upvote

[abstract iron]

Will Achievements get added to Steam? I feel like they are a good indictor of the average progression of players. If early achievements aren't getting unlocked it could provide incentive to retouch the earlier biomes.

[stark furnace]

Plans for achievements in 1.0

[wanton atlas]

for all platforms that allows achivements

[proper crystal]

I have a suggestion,

🧌 gets added to bad suggestions...

[wanton atlas]

there is a specific role for 🧌 suggestions

[proper crystal]

🤣

[wanton atlas]

<@&1205779526974574592>

it's called

[proper crystal]

Thats too funny

[rose swan]

Only Valheim’s most chosen can bear such a role

[eager plover]

im sittin in my base atm with 4 braziers and a hearth around me and its still foggy, so idk if that is the case or not

[royal marten]

i wish spears had a stab

like, a spear-stab instead of the little jab thing you do

[weak gate]

……….

Wats the difference?!?!?!

U want a slower attack???

[rose swan]

To stab or to jab, that’s the real question

[long glacier]

Could be slower attack but more range

[weak gate]

https://discordapp.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202312684364910612/1362467965228027930 https://discordapp.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202312684364910612/1393444623841497120

i've been wanting pancakes longer than you've been here

[stark furnace]

than who?

[weak gate]

the newest recruit

[stark furnace]

Scales
[VAMP]
— 10/7/2022 7:10 PM it's not me

[weak gate]

what???

[zenith sand]

damn... hopefully your wish come true!

[weak gate]

was asking for them in the deep north

[zenith sand]

fair, they would make an excellent addition too

[stark furnace]

#suggestions message do you mean one for the deep north?

[wanton atlas]

I would assume just "any new summon, anywhere in the game"

[lament zinc]

"Anywhere in the game" also means magic in pre-Mistlands biomes.
I really hope we're not going to get that, as that means either magic needs to be nerfed a lot - which according to some needs to be done anyway - or we're going to end up with that many different kinds of magic, it would actually benefit those playing in co-op again.

[peak bronze]

Deer raiser? ||Jk. ||

[wanton atlas]

oh deer

[lament zinc]

Well IF we would get another summon, my choices would be that they're flying ones (like bats or Drakes) or a stronger version of the undead, with a preference for Draugr over Charred.

[rose swan]

Ooooh draugr would be interesting. I’ve always thought wraiths would be cool. Re-skin them and give them some frost damage, boom frost wraith summon

Uggh, so many cool monsters in Valheim

[wanton atlas]

flying would me mega-op

[lament zinc]

As in "the AI isn't able to hit them"?

[peak bronze]

Summoned bats tho, would be good distraction but not so good for damaging enemies.

[weak gate]

I wouldn’t mind that actually

Half decent idea, it’s balanced

[peak bronze]

Sending the nuisance to the enemies.

[wanton atlas]

not all enemies have a range attack

[lofty wave]

I would be very happy to have a new summon, not a flying one though

[stiff stag]

The flying summon would have to be a melee attacker for it to be reasonable.

[weak gate]

Yea

[stiff stag]

So bats and wraiths would be within reason, but not drakes.

[rose swan]

Only way imo something like a drake staff would be within reason is if it was a post-game summon

[cursive forge]

flying would be way too OP but something that flys and fights for you seems ok

[weak gate]

Bats would be perfect

[long glacier]

It could be interesting if the summon slowly lost health over time to account for the fact that enemies struggle to hit flying targets

[weak gate]

that would be fair

[zenith sand]

or start it with very low health compared to the original creature

[weak gate]

#suggestions message
1: we already have corewood walls
2: why do you want a slightly more tan version of the same thing?

[rose swan]

I imagine they just want to expand the building palette, which I can understand for sure. However, I just don’t think finewood fills that role. I also don’t think just changing the color of an existing build piece is the way to go.

[vale oak]

Is variety that bad tho? Doesn't ruin anything imo

[rose swan]

I definitely wouldn’t say it’s bad. I think what I’m trying to say is that you would actually get more variety of there options beyond a simple color change.

For example, the core wood walls. They’re a lot different than the standard wood walls; different shape, color, orientation and texture.

[vale oak]

Ah I see what you mean, then I fully agree, they could be more than just a color change

But it would still be cool to have em, there's kind of a limit with how creative you can get right now, at least for me lol

[wanton atlas]

No body seems to remember the amount of space left in each tab....

[stark furnace]

Can always make a new tab right

Did that for grausten in ashlands 🤔

[rose swan]

I always think about the amount of space in those tabs 👀

[eager plover]

is there no way to have to tabs scroll? and is that why you keep thumbing down the building suggestions?

[rose swan]

Which building suggestion are you referring to? 🤔

[eager plover]

smiffe does it on most building suggestions ive noticed

[rose swan]

Ah, yeah I can’t speak for him. But for me personally, I just really think that the building options have to be very intentional and very specific.

[eager plover]

in regards to the dvergr and yggdrasil pieces alone, i think they are great looking assets and compliment/add to most builds in the game. The yggdrasil pieces alone make for great looking docks even if just the beams; mistlands is not my fav place to build solely because of the mist clouding the beauty of the biome but i do like the build pieces that come from there a lot

[rose swan]

Agreed, I think the black marble pieces were an absolutely spectacular addition. The Ygg pieces are cool, but some of them are a bit too expensive imo.

[eager plover]

even if its just yggdrasil wood for the horizontal beams thats affordable, copper is over abundant atm so the vertical beams and reinforced black marble pieces can help get rid of some of it. Other things like the secret doors, even for the runes alone are nice adds as well

[rose swan]

Ahhh I see what you’re saying now- you’re talking about the Dvergr pieces that we don’t access to?

[eager plover]

for example yea

the fuling pieces from plains is another thing they are good pieces too and could very well do the same thing as the other dvergr pieces

[rose swan]

Yeah, those are cool pieces as well no doubt. But I don’t know, I think there should be some pieces that are unique to the world and therefore unusable. Maybe that’s a lame take

[eager plover]

in some areas i agree there are some build pieces that shouldnt be added IE the black marble 8x8x2 or the 8x2x2 those are a little too much, although i assume they would reduce the instance count but still

[weak gate]

Deep north materials?

[wanton atlas]

Oh no 🥹

Where should we fit all of those 😭

[weak gate]

oh nooooooo D:

[proper crystal]

Even deeper north

[pale drum]

#suggestions message Automation isn't really in the spirit of Valheim. You can use roof pieces to make chutes to funnel all the coal into 1 area, though.

[proper crystal]

true but wouldn't vikings (when they figured out how) ake gears and stuff like that? (think httyd)

[wanton atlas]

north, deep north, even deeper north, deepends northest ? 🤔

[proper crystal]

Deepest north 😛

cough asguard

[weak gate]

Furthest north

[wanton atlas]

Northest north?

[pale drum]

I suppose something as late as Ashlands could work

I still disagree that it fits Valheim's play style, though

[weak gate]

Normal North?

[proper crystal]

ew wtf is normal

[weak gate]

Not any of us (including myself)

[eager plover]

it doesnt exsist

[pale drum]

The North is Deep? We're finally getting an underwater biome lesgooo

[proper crystal]

ew

[weak gate]

North deep update when?

[proper crystal]

when you stop asking for it

[weak gate]

North deep update when?

North deep update when?

[proper crystal]

Banned for spamming

[weak gate]

North deep update when?

North deep update when?

North deep update when?

North deep update when?

North deep update when?

[heady compass]

Valheim: Below Zero

[proper crystal]

do not tempt them with a subnautica rip off

[weak gate]

Valheim, below 100 degrees
(All i ask for this summer)

[heady compass]

'Outside: Below 30 Degrees' would be cool

[wanton atlas]

the first cut is the deepest 🤔

[somber remnant]

I really liked the concept of summons being able to harm the player. Anyone have thoughts on a staff that summons two enemies/creatures etc. that spawn in battling each other? My thought is that the player/other enemies could be damaged by their fight.

[cursive forge]

Not really no. Automation would ruin the grind.

People have gotten very creative with builds that help speed up and making forging easier but automation just makes it feel like every other game with a smelting mechanic

[proper crystal]

||minecraft||

and having hoppers doesnt ruin anything its just a means of transport for items

[stark furnace]

Wouldn't use minecraft as an example

This discord doesn't like minecraft

[meager wave]

#suggestions message Birch seeds exist and oak trees + acorns exist for a reason, already pretty renewable

[signal anvil]

they don't drop often enough though

[stark furnace]

Oaks are net positive on saplings

[proper crystal]

its like every 5 trees

also go mroe than 100 meters from your house lol

[signal anvil]

is this really true?

[stark furnace]

yes

Someone did lots of stats and huge amounts of drop testing

[signal anvil]

Who with anything else to do would do this

[stark furnace]

Someone that loves the game and knowledge 😅

[signal anvil]

unless you're writing a wiki

[stark furnace]

it's pretty easy to do with dev commands and crystal battleaxe anyways

[signal anvil]

Finewood is such an important resource that it makes no sense to have to walk a thousand miles and gradually watch the trees become rarer

[proper crystal]

so plant the seeds...its not that hard

[signal anvil]

the yield isn't even good

[stark furnace]

I mean if you're in the plains you can just demolish a plains forest and you'll have loads of fine wood

[proper crystal]

cough ^friendly way of saying "git gud"

[eager plover]

i have not found this to be the case most of the time

[stark furnace]

The math suggests otherwise

[signal anvil]

Plus the realism, trees drop their seeds all the time, if you needed to kill a tree for it to reproduce, there would not be trees

[stark furnace]

#valheim-chat message Here you go

[cursive forge]

brotha it also has red stone to justify it, this game takes time. Automation would just be a negative

[signal anvil]

yeah cause I wanna play tree farming simulator instead of valheim

[cursive forge]

its really not that bad

[proper crystal]

plant a fricken seed its not that hard

[cursive forge]

or just make a wagon

[eager plover]

youll find out later on that you will have too much fine wood and nothing much to do with it

[signal anvil]

and again the realism aspect, it's very important to the immersion of a game

[proper crystal]

if you want realism go outside

[signal anvil]

''If you want X go to Y" is how we get slop, you can expect quality of games

[cursive forge]

no, its not. lol most games are X go to Y thats a bacis gameplay thing dude

[meager wave]

Also, fine wood is kinda useless. I eventually use it in charcoal kilns instead of normal wood

[eager plover]

even if the yield on sappling doesnt come out to what you initially planted you still end up getting a lot of fine wood and more often then not (esp late game) you have more then enough

[signal anvil]

Saying that in response to Ember, it was bad wording on my part

like when people are like "this isn't made for you'' anytime you criticize media

[cursive forge]

its still not much of a point, the wood is not the issue or the drop rate. This is with ill do respect a skill issue.

[proper crystal]

lol

[signal anvil]

there is not skill, it's RNG😭

[stark furnace]

There's no skill in rng just farm oak trees man the solution is right there

[proper crystal]

you litteraly get a seed atleast every 5 birch trees...go outside and cut 5 of them down and i promise youll have a seed
then go cut 5 more down

[cursive forge]

the "skill issue" is not being able to walk and do something in a game that takes TIME

[stark furnace]

That's not skill

[eager plover]

in you are in need of fine wood and havent gotten to plains run around the meadows and cut down any oak you see you will get some acorns how much varies but you will get some, at that point you have the fine wood from the trees and more acorns to plant more

oak will always produce more fine wood then birch

[signal anvil]

You don't do this with crops, why do it with trees?

[cursive forge]

we can say that all day if we are going by exact definitions of the word skill

[meager wave]

You can cut down like 3 oak trees and have over 70 fine wood

[proper crystal]

because its a game and its meant to be a grind...so....grind...like the rest of us and stop fucking whinning. or go back to minecraft

[cursive forge]

suggestion: make wood easier to get I don't like it!

[signal anvil]

that's not skill it's just patience, I'm fine with mining copper and tin, or clearing crypts forever, but farming should be replenishable

[meager wave]

Because crops don’t function like that irl

[signal anvil]

Crops are replenishable, trees should be too, it doesn't take me that much effort to go find more birch trees but it would be very nice to just have the trees be replenishable, why the insults over me wanting to have fun in a video game

[eager plover]

it all is its just not as easy as some other games, there have been a number of times ive cut down numerous oaks and havent gotten anything aside feathers and resin other times ive gotten 3-5 acorns each tree

as you get to late game some things arent replenishable but there is more then enough around to get what you need

[signal anvil]

see if the solution is "Chop oak cause it's replenishable'' WHY is it a problem for me to ask for birch to be the same. You guys are talking like making each tree drop a seed would cost you your fertility and sense of hearing or something

[meager wave]

Birch is replenishable, just plant them like oak

[eager plover]

birch is, however oak gives more seeds and more fine wood so you should be focusing those instead

[signal anvil]

Replenishable with a small sample size, maybe I don't want a hectare of oak just to build some decorations

[stark furnace]

Yea i mean there's really no reason why birch shouldn't be net positive on saplings, it doesn't break realism or really break the game in anyway

Was just providing a solution with the oaks

[signal anvil]

EXACTLY, but people see me say that and say "go outside lol'' ''skill issue lol'' How obese do you have to be to talk like that in a video game discussion

[signal anvil]

thank you for that, will try it

[eager plover]

most other trees in the game drops seeds at about the same rate, pine trees can have bad drop rates as well its just how it goes sometimes

[signal anvil]

and there is not reason for it to be that way, it's just annoying for no reason

[meager wave]

I swear, pine tree drop rates are like negative

[stark furnace]

You can also bump up world resource setting to 1.5x or higher

[eager plover]

i wonder this at times as well lol

[proper crystal]

clearly yall have never played warframe

[rose swan]

All this over finewood? 😅

[eager plover]

its soooo fine

[stark furnace]

Passion.

[meager wave]

Ummm, we don’t talk about that

[signal anvil]

exactly, what happened to ''nice suggestion, but here is a solution to your problem already in the game''

This is how you lose new players

[eager plover]

there were suggestions to fix your problem -.-

[cursive forge]

at this point this is gotta be bait

[signal anvil]

Forgot to thank y'all for that, my bad, but soon after came the unhelpful commentors and that distracted me

[eager plover]

go farm oaks i promise youll get more fine wood from it, no worries though

[meager wave]

I gotta apologize if I can off as ignorant or scathing, was just trying to point out that they are technically renewable. But you made some good points

[signal anvil]

No I understand you, valuable input

[pale drum]

#suggestions message me when oak trees

[eager plover]

@heady compass you can find areas in the mistlands that have upwards of 7 roots (that ive found) in one fairly small area, 2x extractors per root is usually what i use when they run out i go do something else and come to them and just keep harvesting them til i get what i need; multiple sap farms also help out, can make a small enclosed base over your extractors with a portal inside and go collect without having to deal with anything. The only time ive ever moved my extractors is either to better position them to be in my base or if i found one with more roots that are better grouped together.

also the roots do "fill" back up if not harvested constantly even if the extractor is still on it, once it caps out the root will start to go back to being full over time

check screenshot to see what i mean its only 6 but still

[rose swan]

#suggestions message @serene wyvern Just a heads up, typically it’s better to split up your suggestions into multiple posts. Makes the voting more accurate

[serene wyvern]

Alright, I was thinking about doing that but didn’t wanna feel like I was spamming, thank you 👍

[heady compass]

Aight, I'll see if I can find a more root-dense area. I haven't seen that many roots in one area so I assumed what we has going was pretty good.

[mellow crater]

There is a 30min cooldown in the #suggestions , don't fear for spamming :D

@pulsar forum Big upvote for the shipyard piece but the immunity against player damages doesn't make sense IMO

[rose swan]

#suggestions message I think this idea is cool on paper, but in practice would lead to frustration. Essentially this would turn into finding RNG based POIs to become stronger/buffed.

[pulsar forum]

I think that (immunity against player damage) as a reprsentation of the character taknig care about not hitting the ship while targeting/fighting creatures while on-board.

[pulsar forum]

Maybe with some tweaks, like:
• disabled if pvp is enabled
• only immune within ship's deck hitboxes

[lofty wave]

The only creature to fight on-board is a volture, and the drakkar is tanky enough that it really doesn’t matter

[mellow crater]

Arrows can take the ship hitboxe when fighting serpents and bonemaw also, and I must concede it is annoying

[cursive forge]

#suggestions message might be something later down the line but working with nintendo is a pain from what I can tell lol

[granite geyser]

@hoary pollen

#valheim-chat message

[rose swan]

To be fair though, he did say the Switch 2 🤔
Which I heard is more powerful? But I still doubt it could run Valheim. But I’m no expert lol

[simple hound]

Valheim on switch 2 > farming BBQ points in Pokemon Scarlet/Violet

[languid ibex]

I would love a switch 2 release, don't see why anyone would down vote additional platforms

[stiff stag]

Multiple reasons. For one whether it can even run on the given platform decently enough to justify it. For another, some situations are simply outside of the developer's control, so it makes no sense suggesting it to them.

[hoary pollen]

https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/handheld-gaming-pcs/switch-2-versus-steam-deck/

Since Valheim works on Steam deck and the Switch 2 is now a close match I think it’s worth investing. After all 2077 Cyberpunk with DSLL is all set to be released on Switch 2.

[lament zinc]

Question is: does the company that releases all games on the Switch want to do that?

That's one of the things that was brought up before, some companies won't release EA games on console, given the somewhat negative sentiment EA games have.

That doesn't mean the game can't / won't be released on the Switch after the 1.0 release, but it's still a decision made by the owner of that console, not by Iron Gate or Coffee Stain.

[heady compass]

#suggestions message

[languid ibex]

Yeah these are not real reasons for the player community to downvote, and anyone downvoting because, 'well it might not run,' or-- 'it's not their decision,' is just assuming the worst.

[stiff stag]

We already know for a fact that it ultimately isn't up to them if the game ends up on a given platform or not, so no assumptions being made there. And that's a very valid reason to downvote, since it's being suggested to the wrong place/people. The developers themselves could even be pushing for it to happen and it still does not matter one bit unless Nintendo allows it.

[languid ibex]

Saying that the developers can push for it but that it's the wrong place is a bit contradictory. If the players want it it'd be far more valuable to voice that, rather than assume they couldn't have any influence on that. Having released a game on all consoles, it's surprisingly easy to pass certain barriers if you're willing to meet requirements and ensure you're within the ESRB ratings.

It's just another example of some people jumping ahead and assuming they know the landscape of development based on what's surfaced, which has been proven to be a silly stance countless times.

[stiff stag]

Again there is no assumption here. Quite literally the ones that ultimately decide if it can be available on the switch 2 is Nintendo, not irongate. Much like with the situation with crossplay and Microsoft and Sony. The developers can do everything they can on their end and it still won't happen unless the group that owns/controls the platform allows it to happen. You also completely misunderstood what I said if you think it was contradicting.

[languid ibex]

Right, my point isn't in where the ultimate decision comes from, it's about supporting idea free of assumption about what's possible. Having been part of a company that surveyed the player base about which consoles to pursue release on, there was no tick box that said 'only the consoles that have the least hurdles, and are sure things.' That's pretty far removed from just voicing what you'd like.

[stiff stag]

Unfortunately downvotes are the closest option we have for exceptional situations (such as joke suggestions, rejected ideas, ideas outside of the developer's control, etc.). If we had a separate reaction for situations like that then voting could be handled separately, but that's not the case.

[languid ibex]

I'm telling you it isn't outside of the developers control, and creating theoretical reasons such as, 'it couldn't run properly,' shouldn't be a deterrent about expressing if you would want it or not. It's a strange thing to err on the side of Valheim reaching less players.

[stiff stag]

It absolutely is and you're just plain wrong on the matter. Nintendo is the one that makes that decision no matter what irongate wants to do (much like how Sony and Microsoft control whether cross platform is greenlit for games between their consoles, not the game developers). It's a pretty common known fact.

[languid ibex]

Crossplay has very little to offer when it comes to insight about platforming a game. Nintendo is very open to platforming games, there are just guidelines that need to be followed strictly, and this isn't always worth the trouble to developers without a significant audience proven to want the game on that platform. Again, just a case of jumping ahead and assuming they know the landscape based on what's surfaced.

Feel free to link any of these common known facts, having gone through the entire process Nintendo requires myself, it was never a pending approval scenario. Only the case of checking off certain requirements for a switch based marketing push and game functionality on the platform through approved engines/development tools, etc. I should also mention Unity is an approved engine, and Unity games on the Switch are abundant.

[weak gate]

#suggestions message
are you sure they’re just resting?

And also, that’s spending less and getting something way too overpowered to the point I’m questioning if it’s a troll suggestion

[wanton atlas]

and we have said no to that before

since it doesn't make sence. and it's an unfair advantage

[weak gate]

Hey, let’s spend more to not get a buff

[signal anvil]

It’s unfair to expect valheim players to have friends

[wanton atlas]

I don't want to force my friends to join my play session and sleep in a bed with me, just so I can get a longer rested buff 🤔

[signal anvil]

if you aren't already sleeping with the homies irl you're doing something wrong

[wanton atlas]

at my age, not sure my homies wanna share bed 🤔

[stone citrus]

No age stops you from that
The laughing fits are eternal

[peak bronze]

They want to kiss a homie a good night kiss.

[pliant sorrel]

You get a higher rested buff if you give your homies a goodnight kiss before going to sleep

[peak bronze]

That's what I thought about.

[lofty wave]

Would rocky count as a homie for singleplayer

[eager plover]

i guess? although it would be like having a friend that was playing afk the whole time sometimes coming back to emote maybe

[stark furnace]

Yes.

❤️

[pale drum]

#suggestions message There's a lot of couples that pass through this server who play the game, this would be cute for a later-game bed but not for the standard one-occupancy beds currently in the game imo

[rose swan]

I’m all for having the bigger beds be able to have two people sleep on it, what I’m against personally is having a feature that gives a buff for doing so 🤔
#suggestions message

[short vector]

Just place your beds next to each other and pretend it's one big bed 🧠

[pure patio]

I haven't experimented with the clipping... how much overlap can you get with two dragon beds?

[short vector]

I've never tried but from my experience, you can pretty much always get stuff to meld into each other if you use the different clipping positions enough

[wanton atlas]

why does so many people hate the icons and demand new ones? 🤔

[lofty wave]

I really like the old pixel art item icons but I also think it would be better for all item icons to be consistent.

[fathom atlas]

#suggestions message

this is good, dragon bed is big enough to fit 2 people

[short vector]

I could fit 5 people in my old honda fit, doesn't mean it was comfortable

[languid ibex]

I think it's fine as is, my wife and I use 2 single beds put together, they function the same and are forgiving when placing rugs on top for tie-in decor

[peak bronze]

Ashwood beds look better when aligned together.

[stark furnace]

Ashwood beds also give worse comfort tho right

[wanton atlas]

correct

dragon bed is best still

[peak bronze]

Put dragon bed under floor to grant 2 comfort and sleep in double ashwood bed with your homie.

[languid ibex]

Yeah we use that, I just used single beds to speak more broadly

[pale drum]

Right next to that was a suggestion for a crafting skill that got mass downvoted. Look where we are now...

[rose swan]

Wait where’s the crafting skill suggestion? 👀

[pale drum]

#suggestions message

[rose swan]

Ah, thanks!

[fathom atlas]

let me rephrase, the dragon bed is big enough to comfortably fit 2 people

[pale drum]

Without Jenga

[lofty wave]

Do people forget that valheim can be played in singleplayer

[wanton atlas]

aperantly they forget it's a balanced singleplayer game with co-op features

[dawn ravine]

To be honest, it's only natural that people want more co-op features. Valheim delves into the feeling of solitude, and it's so well done that some people only enjoy it when playing with friends.

[mortal lichen]

For me there's nothing worse than playing this game with others

so peeps like me don't want features that would make you rely on other players basically

[mortal lichen]

(yes to neck suggestion)

[dawn ravine]

those are just options for the people who enjoy playing with friends

[lofty wave]

Why can’t two players just pull one cart each?

Both being attached to the same cart would make going anywhere very difficult

[peak bronze]

We have the crafting skill now, true, but not in the form it was suggested in that link you sent.

Plus, it was stated at some point that the devs might add ideas they think would fit and what they like, regardless of how the suggestion is upvoted or downvoted.

[mellow crater]

We got the Bear again ! It was a long time I almost missed it :)

[languid ibex]

Always tickled by the "more" suggestion as well

[peak bronze]

And multi suggestions post.

[mortal lichen]

make it a slider

[languid ibex]

Those happen very often tbf 😅

[granite geyser]

options that make the game more enjoyable if playing with others that will make solo players feel neglected

imagine not being able to use a better cart bc it's exclusively for two people at least so you are now limited to worse options as a result

[dawn ravine]

sorry about that 😅

[peak bronze]

In the future it's better to post only one suggestion per post since you cannot tell which people have voted to directly. But some pointers:

• Bears have been suggested multiple times, but afaik not currently happening according to devs.
• Cool, what kind of? Kinda vague to just suggest "add more x" without clarifying what kind of.
• There are currently at least 2 armor sets per biome (except Plains has 1 and Ashlands 3), but we are getting at least one in upcoming Combat update.
• There is crafting skill.
• Kinda interesting. Don't know if devs would add seasonal creatures.

[dawn ravine]

fair enough and thanks for your suggestions and clarifications.

• Do we know why do they dropped the idea? Is it because they want the meadows not get too aggressive?
• Well, I was thinking more opponents. We only have the serpent. Add the Margýgr could be an option, for example. You could hear a song and been attacked latter on. Or they could guide you with their song (the boat could kind of guide you) to a place where the combat could get place and you could find the loot in others stranded ships
• I was thinking on armors that can provide different styles of combat. In ashlands you have two different cloaks, but I could be nice to have more options in other stages of the game.
• Yes, but I was thinking on something more similar to farming but with metals.

[peak bronze]

Not exclusively to meadows but in other biomes too, bears are not quite unique enemies in devs' opinion iirc (yes, there are boars, deers, hens and wolves but they were earliest mobs from beta time).

And current armor sets grant different kind of playstyles: heavy armor for tanking more hits and light/medium armors with less armor rate but with some unique bonuses.

We can only wonder what armor set bonus the new upcoming armor will give.

[mellow crater]

@craggy knot I kind of like the idea of passive power from sacrifice, passive power from equipped and active, but the effects you suggest are just too overpowered

[craggy knot]

they are examples the concept of getting something is the idea

[mellow crater]

Also balancing such an idea is hard, cause just stacking each passive from sacrifice is already powerful

[craggy knot]

i still think the queen should give us base eitr on kill

and temp weight buffs are worthless.

i will always just over burden when i need more weight because when i do need more weight it's not 300 it 3000.

[signal anvil]

I really wish that there were permanent minor buffs to your character, it makes no sense that you have 25 base health the entire game

[lofty field]

The weight buff from fader could be useful earlier, I just think it makes no sense that we get access to this buff after we get stone portals

[craggy knot]

yeah thats why i weaken it and turn it into a passive

[lofty wave]

Base health doesn’t matter if you have any food available

[craggy knot]

i don't think a 10hp passive permant upgrade to hp stam or having permant eitr is game breaking op...

so naked with no buffs you would have 35 hp 50 stam and 50 eitr

[rose swan]

What difference would 25 vs 35 make though? 🤔

[peak bronze]

Other has 10 more.

[rose swan]

Or maybe a better question- why would you settle for staying at the base stats at pretty much any point beyond very early game 😅

[craggy knot]

it's a small reward marking progression. as it stand i can go days without using a forsaken power, i have to save it, right around the corner could be a bigger reason i need it. must save it. so i get zero reward for killing bosses. i am sure im not the only one. we need a sense that our actions make us stronger, "feel" the progression.

[rose swan]

But you do get rewards for killing bosses in the form of their drops, right? And also, the powers they give are also rewards, even if you choose not to use it 😁

[plain oak]

Smiffe said no to my suggestion :(

[stark furnace]

Thankfully it doesn't matter

[plain oak]

How?

[stark furnace]

He's just one dev

And many things he says no to still make it to the game 🤷‍♂️

[plain oak]

But he is the PR guy, when he reacts directly i consider it general consensus on irongate's behalf

[plain oak]

Oh thats a good point

[peak bronze]

Iirc he has stated it's more of his personal opinions, not whole IGs stand. But he voices those things IG stand against, like horses, more item slots or dedicated armor slots etc and those ideas has been suggested and rejected many times.

[plain oak]

ah, neat
so still hope for the idea if the other devs like it (#stewpot)

[peak bronze]

Although his opinions also somewhat lines up with most of the IG stand too, but not all.

Iirc Stone portals he was personally against, for example.

[languid ibex]

Smiffe is burdened with knowledge of just how much the devs still have in front of them, so it takes a sincerely good idea for him to get behind. It would take a sincerely good idea to pile more on to colleagues that are already working very hard.

[peak bronze]

Yeah, getting his approval could probably get the support from others too.

[short vector]

I just eat the outdated food when I'm base building or gathering/foraging outsides of ashlands/mistlands.

[languid ibex]

Is this about a suggestion?

[peak bronze]

Probably regarding to the stewing pot suggestion.

[languid ibex]

I assumed as much, but I wanted to know is that's what they're talking about

[granite geyser]

but it is absolutely unnecessary clearly

[craggy knot]

Playing the game at all is unnecessary then clearly by your logic. All we do it get small upgrades. Hours spent for 2 more armor on this peice and a bit stronger food.

[granite geyser]

Playing the game at all is unnecessary then clearly by your logic

what

[lofty wave]

It’s not unnecessary for being a small upgrade, it’s unnecessary because we already have other methods of increasing health, it doesn’t really matter that they’re temporary since ingredients are plentiful enough.

[craggy knot]

They are looking for sugestions for forsaken power because they are currenty not all useful. So adding small pasives to each forsaken power gives a sense of powering/leveling up. What those passives are I don't know I only suggested 10 hp here or 20 eitr there or 20 stam. I don't know. It's not about what the passive is but getting a passive is the point. something i earned that i always have that isn't temporary.

[lofty wave]

None of the boss drops are temporary

You keep your antler pickaxe, swamp key, wishbone, artisan table, wisp fountain and artisan press forever

[craggy knot]

The subject is forsaken powers. if you want to talk about loot that is somewhere im sure.

The devs are asking for suggestions i did mine. is your suggestion forsaken powers are fine and need no change that is fine. but why argue with me all i didn't is what the devs were asking for and put up a suggestion.

[granite geyser]

but why argue with me

read the name of this channel

[peak bronze]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202312684364910612 to post a suggestion and which people can vote, then this channel for discussing about said suggestions: the good, the bad, what could be improved, etc.

[short vector]

it was for the stew suggestion yes

[fathom atlas]

#suggestions message

this suggestion and the one under it are similar and yet one has mostly downvotes and the other has mostly upvotes lmfao

https://tenor.com/view/venom-gif-27487650

[rose swan]

As a member of the battleaxe clan, I must always give my support to battleaxe suggestions 😂

[stark furnace]

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message It is odd that there's such a huge jump in price for seemingly no reason (the value of the currency doesn't appear to have had a drastic change during that time, and it doesn't look like the cost of the game in general has gone up at that time either), but looking at the currency conversions, 7300 ($13.67) is still less than what the price should actually be. The previous price converted to US dollars was around $4.96, when the game normally costs $19.99. Seems more likely that the previous price was an error that got corrected.

[pale drum]

$4.96 could've been a Steam sale price

[mellow crater]

The fact a different weapon type is specified change everything IMO

[mellow crater]

-# was engaging in economics but I just don't have the required level of knowledge in the field xD

[short vector]

SteamDB shows it was 2650 without sales at some point (lowest price was 1325₸ at -50% on march 7th 2024) But, it's new price is more in line with every other country, it's is still the 9th cheapest country to buy valheim from (kazakhstan).

F, gl

[stiff stag]

Looks like a handful of other regions also had their prices increased/modified on/around the same date to account for economic changes, and looks like that part is managed on steam's end, not irongate/the developers.

So overall that suggestion is going straight into the trashcan and the person is requesting it to go back to costing 4 times less than what it's supposed to cost.

[short vector]

there isn't a price it's ''supposed to cost'' tough. If devs get no sale in kazakhstan, they could/should lower the price. No harm in trying, probably not going to happen

[stiff stag]

By "what it's supposed to cost", I mean a baseline value that's used as a standard/metric to determine if the price is reasonable in other currencies. Having it cost 4 times less than that baseline is far from reasonable and it's why it got corrected in the first place. The current price in their currency is still lower than the baseline but is way more within reason than what it used to be (the less than baseline cost means they likely do factor in whether it will be affordable or not and have made adjustments accordingly, so not much justification to request that it cost even less).

[mortal lichen]

It's even cheaper >_>

[granite geyser]

@mellow heart what makes you think this company has any control on regional pricing?

[mellow heart]

Developers set the price for the game

[lament zinc]

Which is more likely being $20 or 20 Euro's; after which it's probably converted to local currency by Steam, GoG or whatever platform you buy your game.
I seriously doubt that any game studio would set the prices for 198 different countries. Having it done by the platform that sells the game is a lot easier for any studio.

[stiff stag]

And even if the developers do control regional pricing it doesn't matter, since the game is already fairly cheap and it costs a good chunk less for their region than the standard/baseline price already. There's hardly any justification for requesting the price to be dropped even further, especially for a whole region just because a few random people can't afford it.

[sick breach]

Developers have complete control over what they charge in every region on Steam, and frequently charge different prices in different regions to account for the differing buying powers of the populations. This is not new. https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/pricing#:~:text=they're spending.-,Regional Pricing Recommendations,own prices%2C in every currency.

It doesn't matter if 20 dollars is a decent price for a game like Valheim in North America if the same price is beyond most Kazakhs' buying power for a game. It is better to have a lot of people buying the game at a reduced price than next to no one buying at regular price. (All this ignores the fact there isn't a regular price, what you think of as "regular" is just your regional pricing).

So, the suggestion is both in the correct place AND a reasonable one.

[pliant sorrel]

#suggestions message
i personally like the idea of passives from boss powers, but a few, especially eikthyr is op. If it were balanced i’d love the idea.

[languid ibex]

Maybe passive damage type buffs or bonuses, eikthyr could provide lightning damage or instead a small chance for chain lightning to happen. Another obvious choice is giving the player poison damage when carrying bone mass, though probably the lowest damage possible of all buffs. You get the idea.

[lofty wave]

Why a chance

[stark furnace]

🎰 🤙

[languid ibex]

Because eikthyr is a strong buff already, constantly applying chain lightning could be considered ideal

The chance could still be 50% or higher but yeah

Also constantly applying chain lightning should be reserved for weapons meant to do such a thing

[stiff stag]

Considering they already take factors like that into account when determining pricing and clearly already have adjusted the price accordingly (being a good chunk less than the baseline), safe to say it is not reasonable to lower the price for a whole region of around 20 million just because it's too much for one random person and a couple of their friends.

[rose swan]

Passive boss buffs

Eikthyr: +weight capacity (maybe like 30 or 50)
Elder: +health regen
Bonemass: +stam regen
Moder: +movement speed (slightly?)
Yag: +exp rate, -skill loss upon death nerfed

Just some food for thought 🤔
Not huge on the idea of passive buffs to be honest? But I figured I’d take part of the discussion lol

[sick breach]

Average monthly pay for Khazakstan is 850 USD, game price is ~13 USD for them, so perfectly reasonable to think the price is "insanely high" by their standards. Not sure why you're arguing against this really; its not like youve actually looked at the numbers.

[mellow crater]

Not sure for the weight capacity but all the others seem great

[stark furnace]

Ngl not a fan of passive buffs

Let me engage with a system and get active buffs

[mellow crater]

Hum just thinking about the root of the issue : passive buffs were suggested because killing a boss doesn’t create a big reward feeling (other than winning the fight) right ?
So the issue could be rephrased as “bosses just look like harder-to-fight monsters instead of forsaken-you-have-to-kill.”
So a good way of solving the issue is not necessarily something that make their power more rewarding, but something maybe simpler that makes them stand out even more from others mobs ?

[short vector]

Seeing how you need to kill the bosses to progress, I disagree that killing them doesn't feel like progression and going back to the stones is the main reason I always build a spawn base and portal hub. I wouldn't call it tedious when you can build stuff to make it easy to do.

So I vote no to passive powers.

[rose swan]

My biggest issue with passive buffs is that it throws off the balance of pretty much the entire game 😅

[wanton atlas]

passive buffs makes it harder to balance

is player using X or Y passive ability. need to balance for both at the same time 😐

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message @soft rover achievements are already planned with 1.0.

[wanton atlas]

I removed it since it's already comming

[stiff stag]

Which is the best news you can hear when making a suggestion.

[wanton atlas]

yeah

best suggestions is those I delete :3

[stiff stag]

So all of the joke suggestions have been some of the best, understood.

[wanton atlas]

only those I've deleted 🫡

[short vector]

#suggestions message
Yes to diving, but realistically you would still need the harpoon to harvest sea serpent carapace (because stamina would be too low for a deep dive in the ocean)

[wanton atlas]

that is exactly why we don't allow diving 😄

[short vector]

I get it but, when you kill a hare or deer in shallow water and you need to make a tower to jump in and loot the stuff, it's silly

[lofty wave]

You can dive already by jumping off a high place, and if you want to get serpent scales you have to kill them in shallow water

The serpent meat floats and 90% of the time that's all you need anyway

[pale drum]

#suggestions message harpoon + land

[short vector]

Give one of the traders diving gear you can buy when you complete the game 🙂

Bag of rocks, requires 10 rocky pets to make. (Allows you to sink to the bottom, doesn't let you back up)

[lofty wave]

That means the rockies will stay down there and drown nooo

[pale drum]

DEATH TO THE

[wanton atlas]

[wanton atlas]

||https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75n4gxQ0RfE||

[stiff stag]

I will continue to trust the people that actually look into all of the numbers and factor in all of the variables (purchasing power is one of the things they factor in) to determine an appropriate pricing over your limited assessment or even my own, until there's actual proof that the prices are in error. If you can prove that you somehow know better than the people that have all of the data and numbers and know what to do with them, then I will concede your stance, but until then I see no reason to blindly/naively support the suggestion.

[mortal lichen]

I mean the minimal wage in my country is under 400 USD, game is about 20, i got it anyway and for friends too xd

[rose swan]

Sell some lemonade, buy Valheim, profit 🤌

[stiff stag]

Also have to figure in how averages actually work. For example if you have say 4 people that each have $5, and one person has $1000, the average amount would be $204. Just that one person having way more than the others greatly inflated and skewed the actual amounts. That's why I don't put much stock in the average monthly pay here, and why it more than likely doesn't have as much influence on the price as it might seem. The average monthly pay in kazakhstan could in reality just be somewhat lower than the average in the US if you factor out the people greatly inflating the US average, and in that case the roughly $14 in kazakhstan relative to $19.99 in the US would be fairly reasonable and accurate (and I seriously doubt the people that figure out the regional pricing just pulled that value out of thin air and called it a day).

[wanton atlas]

The average monthly salary in Kazakhstan is approximately ₸382,279, which is roughly equivalent to $815 USD, according to Hire Truss, as of the first quarter of 2024. However, this figure can fluctuate based on location, company size, and experience level 🤔

or https://tradingeconomics.com/kazakhstan/wages for more later numbers

[weak gate]

815 usd?!?!?!

[wanton atlas]

yes. 815 USD per months is avreage pay

in siberia the avreage pay is 573 USD

but remember their food, petrol, clothes don't cost the same as in the US 😄

[weak gate]

Oh, I thought you were talking about the price of valheim there for some reason XD

I didn’t read the whole thing

[wanton atlas]

reading the whole thing is key 🤔

[sick breach]

You see no reason to blindly support the suggestion, yet for some reason you're happy to downvote it and claim it's going in the garbage bin.

[lament zinc]

cough #suggestion-discussion message cough

And as a general comment: S'pose the devs do adjust the price for those in Kazakhstan. Then what? The people from Brazil may want an adjustment (read: lowering it) as well. Then those from China, then those form Thailand, then those from Tulavu and before you know it each country will have someone who's going to suggest a price adjustment because they can't afford it.

And where does it actually stop?
Because the moment one country does get that adjustment, while others don't, we're going to get a big shitstorm and negative comments on all available platforms; as well as accusations of the devs showing "favoritism."

[wanton atlas]

I know Kazakhstan overall steam prices has gone up 🤔

alot of key selling sites bought only in that countrys currency and used that to gift accounts with keys. just to make millions of money abusing steams system

in 2025, steam adjusted their recommended pricing and just from googling alone, thousands of games have adopted steams recommended prices for each region

[wanton atlas]

@untold blade how much have you played valheim?

Flying in the game basicly makes you invincible 😅

[weak gate]

You know how Viking had magical jetpacks?

[wintry bobcat]

Yea, they took them anywhere they needed to go. Wish we still had those today

[weak gate]

Times are tough without magic jetpacks

[untold blade]

Over 2,500 hours. How would temporary flying would make you invincible? My suggestion is that it would use Eitr like Running and Jumping uses Stamina.

[stiff stag]

A group of enemies chasing you? No problem, fly away to victory and avoid all danger. It also makes traversing the terrain trivial, something that is not meant to be so.

[pale drum]

Nah, we just need rocket launcher + TF2-style rocket jumping

[stark furnace]

You can already fly with catapults + feather cape 🤙

[untold blade]

Every so often I hear or read someone complaining about how hard it is to get around in the Mistlands. Giving the player a little boost here and there to help characters with low Run and Jump skills would not make getting about trivial, but it could make it easier. You're thinking 'jetpack' and I'm thinking 'super jump' that uses Eitr.

[pale drum]

Eitr-powered double jumps would slap

[stiff stag]

You specifically said a fly skill, not super jump, entirely your own fault if no one knew what you actually meant.

[weak gate]

(press X to doubt)

[untold blade]

I said it would use Eitr. That implies it would only last as long as you still had Eitr. How fast or slowly it used it would be a balancing thing that the dev would need to fool around with.

[pale drum]

"Flying" heavily implies slow drain rate, "assisted jump" heavily implies a more conservative implementation

[untold blade]

Could I have worded it better? Yes. I was off to bed shortly after posting that.

[pale drum]

And that is why you got mass-downvoted.

[untold blade]

Don't care.

[stiff stag]

Great way to take accountability.

[stark furnace]

honestly gigachad

[pale drum]

Now, if you wanted to suggest a more conservative implementation, I might be more on board with that.

[untold blade]

Honestly, I don't even know. But the idea of using Eitr for something non-combat feels like a good idea. So does doing something to make getting around in the Mistlands easier.

My playstyle leans more heavily towards archer and staying alive than most people, so most people I game with tend to have lower Run and Jump skills than I do, so it's harder for them in Mistlands. That's also a big complaint I read on Reddit from time to time. I'm looking for a fix that keeps people from wanting to give up after they hit that biome. 1 through 5, great, but Mist and Ash are just far less fun.

[granite geyser]

without replacing the Running and Jumping Skills

said shortly after mentioning something that would very certainly replace running and jumping skills

[untold blade]

Again, it would not replace it, as it would be limited by how much Eitr you had.

[granite geyser]

doesn't change how op/broken it would be

[untold blade]

That depends on how the skill worked/was implemented.

[peak bronze]

There are other ways to make traversing easier in Mistlands. Feather cape, Ratatosk tonic, Lightfoot mead...

[wanton atlas]

you never experienced that jumping makes all enemies lose target of you ?

what happens is that they cannot make a path from themselves to your character, to they instantly stop trying to get to you and they reset position

that is one of the reasons flying in valheim is so over powered

[untold blade]

I am aware that jumping in combat is useful. Again, this was about a very temporary thing that quickly burned through your Eitr. The idea is that it would be about as useful as having more ability to jump. Someone suggested it could take the form of an Eitr powered "Double Jump" that I really liked.

[lofty wave]

Feather cape + lightfoot mead is close enough to flying/double jumping already

Feather cape + catapult IS flying, too

[untold blade]

I wish lightfoot mead was a thing when Mistlands first came out. As such, I never got in the habit of using it, but I did toss in a batch last time I was online. Planning on getting around to testing it.

[lofty wave]

I miss when the jump boost was on the cape

At least the mead is cheaper than it was in public testing

[peak bobcat]

I got a solution - stop holding SHIFT as much.
In my observation ppl that complain about "getting around is hard" the most are usually the same ppl that just hold shift all the time for no reason -> which results in empty stamina bar whenever they need to jump or actually need to run xd

[blissful berry]

Hello everyone could someone pls help me i describe my problem in the steam-bugs-discussion

[peak bronze]

"Cheaper" is a point of view. More like, easier to craft since they changed one ingredient.

[lofty wave]

1/20 drop rate item -> 1-2 hare kills depending on rng is definitely cheaper unless someone had perfect luck with the trophies

A single 2-star hare can drop the required hide for up to four mead bases

[pliant sorrel]

I personally am 50/50 on the idea if it makes it’s way through I’d be happy, if it doesn’t, I’m personally fine with it, but the feeling of getting some small buffs along the way as you beat some bosses gives me a good feeling of gaining something else out of it.

[peak bronze]

Small buffs would be fine, like 2hp/tick, 10% stamina regen, 5% movement speed, 15% eitr regen etc.

But on the same boat, would be also fine without.

[lofty wave]

+1 stamina for eikthyr

[wanton atlas]

for me personally, that would break the games spirit to mega-jump or such 🤔

[pliant sorrel]

Yeah the tiny buffs would be fine, no game changing powers

[lofty wave]

Elder +1 knockback against greylings

[peak bronze]

Battleaxe secondary on greyling with that boost.

[pliant sorrel]

I love going back to the meadows to send some greylings flying with my endgame maces

Also about the klossen, does it still knockback enemies when they’re rooted?

[peak bronze]

It does.

But as does every else Jade weapon.

[pliant sorrel]

Don’t you think it should keep the enemy still, rooted down technically

[lofty wave]

Yes, all immobilisation does is set movespeed and turnspeed to zero

[pliant sorrel]

Well all the jade weapons

[lofty wave]

Knocking them around while they can't do anything about it is fun though

[peak bronze]

Technically it's immobility, which only prevents the movement and turning for the affeted enemy.

[lofty wave]

The effects show roots surrounding the enemy rather than attaching them down onto the ground

[pliant sorrel]

Right, it just seemed weird to me that they’re technically rooted into the ground I’m guessing

[pliant sorrel]

Oh that makes more sense

Also blobicy, nice pfp 🙂

[rose swan]

New Blob era

💡Replace Blob’s Greydwarf role for a Neck role

[weak gate]

#suggestions message
reedophone (fantasy saxophone) when?

🎷

[rose swan]

#suggestions message we’ll have to see if/how the combat update addresses this 👀

[wintry bobcat]

It said they’d fix slope fighting, so I’d assume so

[granite geyser]

@quick cedar

https://valheim.com/news/word-from-the-devs-mystery-foes/

[wanton atlas]

that's not what he ment

this is what he means

@quick cedar

[wintry bobcat]

Mmmmm he said angle though

[wanton atlas]

well. both will be done once the update drops

doesn't matter if you look up, down, character rotation etc

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message the circlet headgear from haldor already serves this purpose. You can also build campfires in dungeons, or hold a torch. No need for a new potion for it when multiple options already exist.

[weak gate]

#suggestions message
it’s only purpose is to make fun of launching players from high places?!?!?

What are you talking about???

It is already useful enough

[lofty wave]

The main purpose is transport with some extra projectile weapon functionality, where did the idea of it being a siege weapon come from?

[rose swan]

Well, the wiki does refer to them as siege engines 😅

Maybe they’ll get more use come deep north?

[wanton atlas]

don't think so 🤔

the main usage is to blast open walls and doors on fortresses in ashlands

[rose swan]

Interesting 🤔
Fair enough!

[lament zinc]

@mystic fern you are aware that before we had "egg plants" chicken roamed free?
Even chicken coops were something that wasn't used at all farms.

[wanton atlas]

not sure vikings wasted wood on making chicken coops 🤔

and any kind of "automation" in the game will probably not come in that form

[mystic fern]

Wouldn't a chicken without a coop or nesting box still make a nest for itself and lay eggs in it? I don't think you would normally just find them scattered on the ground like in the game.

[wanton atlas]

wow. chicken coop isn't even 150 years old

😮

[lament zinc]

Actually, they would.
A small pothole in the ground with perhaps some hay in it would be enough.

[mystic fern]

That would still be a nesting spot, so you'd check that that for eggs before combing the entire area that the chicken had access to.

[fathom atlas]

would be nice if we could build a nest, then the chickens would sit on the nest and lay eggs there

[wanton atlas]

that's not how free range chickens work tho

they tend to hide their eggs in tall grass

[rose swan]

Dang, missed out on a chicken convo 🐔

[uncut linden]

Neighbor has chickens. Found an egg or two in our backyard, one was still warm!

[weak gate]

I actually have 5 chickens in my backyard

[fathom atlas]

if they dont have a nest then yeah, very rare though. Usually the chickens make a nest or the farmer makes a nest for them

[fathom atlas]

#suggestions message

Why is this getting downvoted lol, theres no way people dont run out of inventory space when going on a journey

[long glacier]

I certainly don't

[mellow crater]

That is the point. Inventory slots is a recurrent topic here and the conclusion has always been the same : managing inventory is part of the game. If you go for exploration or farming, you have to prepare your inventory and take only what is necessary. And if you still run out of space, you have to chose and prioritize. IMO this is part of the game. We aren't here to collect as much stuff as possible, but to get just the stuff we need.

[fathom atlas]

if you go exploring you want to get all the new items tho. for example when going to a new biome for the first time, theres never enough inventory slots even if you take minimal equipment with you

[mellow crater]

I take minimal equipement and I can take all the new stuff I want

also, I usually build an outpost close to the new area and often get back to it to save new discovered stuff

just in case I'd die somewhere on the road while going further in

[long glacier]

I usually take multiple trips to do all the things the biome has individually, instead of grabbing everything at once

[mellow crater]

Minimal equipment looks like what ?

• 2 to 3 slots for weapons/shields
• 4 slots armors
• 1 slot wood
• 1 slot hammer
• 3 slots portal but you usually place it before you enter the new area
• 3 slots food if you plan to stay long from home

Which give max 9 slots used and 6 more if you plane to go very far and for a very long time.
23 free slots, 17 in the worst case.

-# edit, forgot the hammer

[fathom atlas]

yeah same, have to go back there many times cause inventory full tho

[fathom atlas]

yeah i usually put the wood/portal mats in the boat and still run out of space lol idk i just kill everything i see and loot any enemy

[mellow crater]

Well, just drop what is useless

You probably auto-pick stuff from previous biomes while going from your outpost to the new biome (greydwarves and skeletons : 4 slots taken for nothing)

[pale drum]

That's when you need to start throwing out things you don't need, like trophies and wood

Inventory management is one of the key features of a survival game

[mortal lichen]

This game is great at teaching you not to hoard

[mellow crater]

meanwhile my friend building a hoard to stack all the money and dragon eggs (yes, she farmed dragon eggs) she got

[mortal lichen]

My base literally has over 100 dragon eggs wdym >_>

[mellow crater]

oh, I see

But you can imagine the feeling I had while storing my stuff and suddenly I open a chest FULL of eggs !

And she said "oh, nevermind, it's for a build I am planning" xD

[sick breach]

#suggestions message

Is there something im not understanding, this sounds like the hoe tool.

[wanton atlas]

https://nedmakesgames.medium.com/mastering-tessellation-shaders-and-their-many-uses-in-unity-9caeb760150e

or the tessellation setting in the game menu 🤔

[spice kettle]

If I remember correctly the hoe can make slopes smooth but I do not remember which key to press

[languid ibex]

@fickle crystal Are you referring to what the Hoe tool does or something else?

[fickle crystal]

Something else. I understand that you can use the hoe to flatten and level the ground that's fine and dandy. What I'm trying to say is that I wish the hoe had the ability to make the ground look more natural. I don't want all of my world to be flat I would like for it to have hills and mounds. I can only make the ground look so good with a pickaxe you can cover up the tiny little craters that a pickaxe leaves with grass but at the end of the day when you drag a cart across it it still hits all those bumps. My buddy has this mod that will shape the ground to help remove a lot of those pickaxe craters so it looks like it was naturally generated.

[rose swan]

Have you tried shift+clicking with the hoe when leveling? I think that might be the smoothing option you’re looking for 🤔

[languid ibex]

You don't have to live with the little craters or tiny mounds, that is just the result of the terrain generating on a grid, eventually you will find spots that pass into the next 'cube' in the space by a very small amount. In the case of a small hole simply build it up with the hoe, pick it down, flatten again, and it will be filled. In the case of a small mound, pickaxe the spot directly, build it up with the hoe, and flatten again.

[fickle crystal]

@rose swan as I'm on an Xbox I'm unsure what shift clicking with a hoe would actually do.

I understand what you're saying and for the most part you can get close to making the ground look like it was naturally generated. I'm not so much talking on a small scale I'm talking about on a large scale. I had pretty much leveled a cliff so It shaped better to the surrounding ground because I was moving such a large amount of area none of it really looked uniform The flattening tool on the hoe isn't what I need what I need is for the ability to simply smooth the ground. It's really hard to put into words and I might have to Make a video to try to describe what I'm talking about

[languid ibex]

It sounds like you began a project without a lot of insight with how lowering/heightening terrain works and the limitations around it. You can easily achieve what you're describing if you shape terrain that allows for it, simply trying to force a terrain design wherever you please will inevitably result in some frustrations.

[loud sapphire]

💡 It would be nice if the repair button on the workbenches allowed for all carried items to be repaired with one click. Every time I have a lot of items to repair I feel like I am working towards a future with carpal tunnel syndrome.

[signal anvil]

wrong chat lol

[weak gate]

#suggestions message
does your armor not appear?

If so pls put in bug channels not suggestions

[pale drum]

#suggestions message Maybe stackable spears?

[loud sapphire]

I should probably get some sleep. It's about that time for me.

[signal anvil]

It does but it's easy to not pay attention to your character and get killed for it

[signal anvil]

lol

[weak gate]

.. .

[fickle crystal]

I promise it's not as complicated as I might be making it out to be I simply would like a function for the hoe that would let you smooth the ground. Not level it, not flatten it, just smooth it.

[sick breach]

As in remove all the grass and other flora without levelling it? That would be the "pathen" option, no? In the same way you can select raise ground on hoe there's pathen, which clears the ground of grass without changing the height or shape of the ground.

[bitter siren]

idk how but at some point i remember holding E on a workbench and it auto fixing eveything in my inventory, may have been a mod not sure

[stark furnace]

Mod

[bitter siren]

should be in vanilla too then imo it's a pretty simple QoL thing

[stark furnace]

And it's pretty similar to holding e to stack things in a chest

Idk tho I'm pretty 50/50 on that

[languid ibex]

Yeah can't be sure I know what you mean, there's plenty of ways to acheive smoothing, and flattening is as smooth as it gets. 🤷‍♂️

[peak bronze]

Why every aspect should be automatic? Repairing gear is already free.

[bitter siren]

person i replied to said they feel it causes carpal tunnel which ig goes to show the spam clicking can get annoying to some

[sly hull]

But what does single-clicking each item add? It is mostly annoying. Just saying "Repair" once should suffice and not be fully automatic, you still have to remember it.

[languid ibex]

Personally I enjoy the immersive and tactile feeling you get from repairing items, the sound of the hammer hitting with every press is satisfying. I'm unsure how clicking at most 8-10 times is annoying, unless you're repairing far too often.

Though I'm sure it was an exaggeration, if you worry about carpal tunnel, simply press repair a bit slower.

[peak bronze]

I see it as non-issue. It's not like you need to click tens or hundreds of times.

[mortal lichen]

how often do you break your gear and repair it in order to get carpal tunnel from it

[fickle crystal]

No I'm talking about removing bumps or little holes on the ground. I'm trying to describe to the best of my abilities a ways to smooth the ground without using the leveling function on the hoe. Because when you use it it'll try and make everything completely flat and horizontal I'm just looking to have a function on the hoe that just smooths the ground without effecting the level in such a drastic manner that the "leveling ground" does.

[fickle crystal]

But flattening is the part I don't want smoothing the ground is. If I have a hill I'd like it to keep the angle of the hill while smoothing the ground. Maybe some way to just give the terrain you altered a more natural look that blends in with the natural generation over just leveling an area horizontally.

[zenith sand]

are you thinking a bit about some kind of terrain contour/gradient tool rather then a flattening one? because that would be pretty cool

[wintry bobcat]

Valheim could really use a tool like that

[fickle crystal]

Yeah! That's what I'm talking about

[languid ibex]

Yeah, there's a function called Smooth that does exactly that, on Xbox you just hold LT+LB and press RT to smooth the ground you're looking at.

From there you'll need the Cultivator to apply the grass back as it was.

[fickle crystal]

You're kidding right?! You're telling me in all the years I've played I didn't know it's in the game?!

[languid ibex]

I mean, it's not fully released so all functionality additions can slip by! This function will allow you to smooth the terrain you're looking at, rather than adjust for heights you're standing on.

[fickle crystal]

That's great that it's in the game and I never knew but it would probably be good to have it as it's own selection at some point

[rose swan]

#suggestions message @pulsar forum can you elaborate on this a little? 🤔

[peak bronze]

Seemingly watermill, but for what purpose?

[languid ibex]

I've seen this suggested a handful of times, usually leads to the person suggesting it to say, "well they could make river mechanics," etc. 😅

[pulsar forum]

Yes sir

It's primarly thinking on our viking villages fashion. But of course it should have a purpose beyond ornamental:

What could it be? At devs discretion I guess. Maybe grind a new type of grain? Or make the current gran processing faster?
It should require further investigation on irl viking watermill uses

[rose swan]

The biggest obstacle with something like a water mill build piece is that there’s really no water physics/features to support something like that 🤔

It’s a fun idea though! Would be similar to the windmill we already have in-game.

And yeah, water physics are kinda just on of those things that’s really hard to ‘simply add’ to the game unfortunately. So it’s unlikely we’ll see any mechanics that take advantage of something like that.

[pulsar forum]

I aggree with not implementing water physics. It gives me headache just to think on mathematics of fluids.

Perhaps something that works by default, without being too realistic(without the need for force and fluid direction), only requiring to be on water; collapsing when not in water.

It might be possible to do in an easy way. Just requires lots of thinking... and coffee.

I agree it's not priority, just didn't want to leave it unposted.

Cheers

[pale drum]

What would that be on keyboard? Sprint + block + primary attack?

[rose swan]

#suggestions message @brazen cypress When you say multiple crops, are you referring to the bonus yield? Just want to clarify

#suggestions message Similarly to this one?

[weak gate]

The suggestion community is just luck

At least that’s my theory

[rose swan]

Haha what do you mean by that?

[weak gate]

Look at the two examples you gave

One has a bunch of upvotes and the other has a bunch of downvotes

It the same suggestion tho

[stiff stag]

It's also the same person re-posting their own same suggestion, which is not allowed.

[rose swan]

Ah, well one of them is fresh out of the oven, I wager it’ll even out given time 🤔

And yeah, they’re from same guy as well, so there’s that

[weak gate]

Tru

[stark furnace]

🐻 🤙 yooooo it's been a while

[weak gate]

Not again :(

#suggestions message
“i wish there was a faster way to transport my iron, oh, i can just tun it into a bunch of iron battleaxes then deconstruct them when i get through the portal!”

[stark furnace]

Lose half of the materials tho

Just early ashlands and get some molten cores ez 😏

[weak gate]

Again, no

[pale drum]

#suggestions message obliterator

[rose swan]

We need a “number of days since a bear suggestion” counter 😂

[wanton atlas]

todays suggestions...

[rose swan]

Feels like we’re back in 2021 😁

[wanton atlas]

yeah

tell me about it

[pale drum]

At this point, add "bear" to the list of automodded slurs

[weak gate]

And “deep north when”

[weak gate]

I haven’t upvoted a single suggestion today

[peak bronze]

"Days without 'bears' suggestions: 0."

[weak gate]

Wont ever get above 3

[rose swan]

I haven’t made a suggestion in 5 months, wow! 🤔
Don’t think I have any left in me 💡

[pulsar forum]

Are whales as requested as bears?🙂

[rose swan]

Not quite, but they’re up there 🤔
Bears are (the most) common request, probably because they’re often affiliated with viking and viking-ish material.

[granite geyser]

@lament jacinth

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Dedicated_servers

[lament jacinth]

That requires a pc I don’t have one

[rose swan]

Are you not a fan of using 3rd party server hosts?

[lament jacinth]

How does that work?

[rose swan]

Basically you pay through a website (G portal or Nitrado) to host your server.

[pulsar forum]

Should Iron Gate partner with one of those companies to offer a pay-per-server service?🤔 💰

[rose swan]

Ehhh I guess I don’t really have an opinion on it 🤔 I also just don’t know a lot about the nuances of such things.

A ‘realms’ feature (Minecraft in-game server hosting functionality) does make things a little more straightforward and intuitive, but I don’t know the viability of having such a thing, especially for a small company like Irongate.

[languid ibex]

A lot of these services are so straight forward anyways, it could benefit Valheim to just offer to link to service(s) in-game without necessarily a business partnership. It could be considered a win-win.

[wanton atlas]

That would just make it more expensive for the players to rent a server 🥲😅

[raven bramble]

Tbh do you guys ever plan expanded mod support? like is it in your roadmap?

Y'know, mod support through steam where you just have to subscribe a mod to have it in-game

[wanton atlas]

After 1.0 possibly. Depends on what is the best solution.
Steam Workshop is probably out of the question since other platform don't have access to it.

[stiff stag]

#suggestions message Are you sure you aren't just experiencing the same thing that often happens with copper nodes, where a chunk's hitbox is still connected to the ground even if the chunk itself appears completely detached? Haven't been to the ashlands yet so I haven't experienced it first hand, but it does sound like a similar situation could be at play.

[sly hull]

Not really, many structures there just float even when completely disconnected from the ground.
I was very disappointed when I got two Lava Blobs to explode next to a sulfur arch and it didn't fall.

[mellow crater]

Probably still remain some part of the rock in the ground

That you may not be able to see

[fickle crystal]

Do you ever think Xbox will get mod support? I'm not sure of the logistics it even takes for adding something like that to console though I'd say PC would need mod support way before Xbox.

[wanton atlas]

@fickle crystal no promises..but we'll see what's possible and not when we get there

I don't think we rule out mod support yet. But how and when

[stiff stag]

Again, things can appear completely disconnected even if they aren't, even with a decent sized gap of air (because the invisible hitbox can extend past that gap). This tends to happen with larger or awkwardly shaped chunks, and it can be very easy to mistake that situation as meaning the structure won't automatically break.

[granite geyser]

Mod.io

[fickle crystal]

What?

[ancient bough]

@signal anvil i like the idea, but this sounds fitting to include the spears throw attack, since its definitely harder to hit over longer distances than bows and it just fits in alongside the idea (imo)

[signal anvil]

true

[granite geyser]

a mod platform that's compatible with consoles

[fickle crystal]

Yeah but I don't see velheim on it

[granite geyser]

why?

[fickle crystal]

Idk I just looked for the game on there and didn't see it 🤷‍♂️

[granite geyser]

because valheim doesn't have it

[fickle crystal]

🤷‍♂️

[delicate musk]

🤦‍♂️

[lofty wave]

#suggestions message
Abyssal razor has the same stats as what an iron knife would have if it existed

[mortal lichen]

Is it me or ymir's suggestion kinda...merged

[rose swan]

I stopped reading after the first line because I thought it would be way over my head

[mellow crater]

All that follow has nothing to do with the first line

It is mostly about « special weapon for each biome ». I don’t understand why he copied the previous suggestion of Edna at the beginning

[rose swan]

Oh LOL I didn’t even notice!!

[peak bronze]

And special weapon that is poison weapon for swamp.

Remembering the poison mace spam suggestion. 👀

[sick breach]

He might have copied to get the lightbulb emoji and forgot to delete the copied text.

[ancient bough]

Mb lmao I dont know how I managed to copy paste someone else's suggestion even to I only copied what the bot said my message was(because I forgot to use the bulb), I didnt notice until now

I fixed it now tho

I just like the idea on dyrnwyn and how it's like doing a side quest for a legendary weapon type of thing, I would love to see that same idea but for more biomes and armor being included (without having to use mods) and make it hard still so it's not like something easy to do all the time, and you'd have to go out of your way to do it

[rose swan]

Totally understandable- The Dyrnwyn questline is a lot of fun and is a very fitting side quest that fits the style of Valheim (setting aside the performance of Dyrnwyn).

I’m not opposed to more content like this, but I don’t think it should be every biome.

And it can’t be overdone, as this would detract from the legendary status of such gear imo

[peak bronze]

Getting materials from Hildir minibosses would be one idea... Would give another reason to defeat them than just the chest and trophy.

[rose swan]

You know how much I hate talking about Hildir 😭

That’s not a bad idea! Definitely potential there.

[peak bronze]

It has been my initial thought since the patch came out. Definitely could give some bit more unique weapon for those biomes.

There wouldn't be need for add too much bloat when there are those locations already.

[pale drum]

Hildir's clothes are busted af for farming

[rose swan]

Yeah the harvest set was a cool add. Not sure id call it busted, but it’s handy 🤔 and fashionable!

[mellow crater]

What are you talking about ? The dungeons are great ! (ok... the merchant is not the most important of the game)

[rose swan]

Agreed! Love the dungeons! It’s just the merchant I don’t love 🙂

[wintry bobcat]

Much rather have things that are busted for menial labor than busted weapons that negate the challenge of combat

[coarse granite]

@umbral ore

The best alternative solution to this (in case you are not already aware) is using console commands to force delete pickable items like dandilions, branches, and stones.

I dont remember the exact commands but you should be able to find them in valhiems fandom under "item ID's"

Just make sure you dont miss a letter and delete everything within a 5M radius around you.

[stiff stag]

It's just forcedelete [distance] [id].

[gilded merlin]

@glass mason the dev team is actually like 16 people now

it is still a very small team, that hasn't changed

[glass mason]

Really?! Even more huge!! I've got more fingers and toes than they do people on their team, crazy thought considering how well-made this game is already especially with its current size and scope

[peak bronze]

It was 5 when the game launched on Steam, iirc.

[gilded merlin]

@glass rune it's not quite a neck, but there's a pretty similar tameable already. Though it requires you to get pretty far into the game

[glass rune]

👀 , the farthest I have gotten is Mountains- but my friends and I just picked the game back up so now I am excited to see what it is as we play through. Hitting the swamp up soon so yippie!! TYSM for this information

[gilded merlin]

||I'm, of course, talking about askvin in the Ashlands||

[rich cosmos]

Maybe no…like just no…no explanation… just no

[bitter siren]

like someone else said iron knife kind of exists but i love the double bed idea personally^

[weak gate]

#suggestions message
downvoted because we all know blobicycake is the number one neck enjoyer

[signal anvil]

I think necks as a companion pet like a chihuahua would be awesome, maybe make them play in hot tubs too

[white compass]

Could we get more realistic spear animations? Who would fight like this with a spear? It just bugs me so much haha.

[weak gate]

Put it here

#suggestions

[gilded merlin]

There are proper spears in the game already. They're just called atgeirs. The ingame "spear" is a fishing spear.

[white compass]

Can you fish with it? 😮

Spear and shield fighting is something Vikings definitely did tho. ^^

[gilded merlin]

No, you don't fish with it, but you do use the fishing animations when fighting with it

[white compass]

And thats what feels weird to me 😅

[gilded merlin]

Besides, in combat, if you were in a line of shields pressing against another line of shields, you'd use a spear in exactly the way the ingame animation is already

There are spears like the phalanx type spears you typically think of when you see the word spear in the game already. They're just called atgeirs. And they have the animation you'd expect, though they're two handed and can't be used with a shield

[white compass]

Im not sure about that, perhaps. Its not what iv seen in reenactments. But if we were in the situation that is not a shield wall, you would hold the spear differently.

Correcting my self, one would ofcourse adapt, but still.

[gilded merlin]

It's a highly specific situation. You have to be in two shield walls that are physically touching, shield pushing on shield. Up until you get to that point, you'd naturally adopt a more phalanx like stance with the spear under the shield. But once you're physically shield against shield, you'd want to stab from above, to hopefully poke them in the head to death

[white compass]

I feel like i will sound rude, I really dont want to be but, we are not in that situation in this game like ever. 😅

99.9 % we are solo fighting like a draugr or somethings

Anyway, its my opinion, I will suggest it. Devs will do what they want. 🙂

And Ill play the game ether way 🙂

[peak bronze]

It has been suggested before tho. So you might get lots of ♻️s.

[mellow crater]

What was suggested I really liked was the animation changing if the player hold a shield in the other hand, but staying the same if holding just the spear

[weak gate]

#suggestions message
isnt that the entire point of the spear?

[mellow crater]

Mostly about the animation and range

[weak gate]

But that’s a way to stab with the spear over a sheild, quickly, and with one hand

Something that would work in real life

[mellow crater]

Well, read those few messages up, the point was made

[mellow crater]

here

[weak gate]

Then you should take that as a sign it’s common knowledge, or at least I’m able to see how realistic something is

[white compass]

I fail to see what line fighting has to do with Valheim.

[mellow crater]

I mean, I am pretty convinced the current animation is logical in certain situations but not in the one of holding a shield and a spear

[weak gate]

It’s something i wish would be used, or at least had a perk

[weak gate]

Think on it for 5 minutes please

Only 5 minutes

[white compass]

Well, if you were first in line you would not hold your sper like we do in Valheim.

[weak gate]

Elaborate

How would you

[mellow crater]

You are safer if you use the spear like an atgeir because it gives you more control on the opponent.
but it is also true gameplay-wise that giving two sets of animation for the same weapon depending on whether you have a shield or not

[weak gate]

You’re safer attacking slower and without a shield is what you’re saying?

[mellow crater]

The opposite
when you hold a shield
You can attack slower with more range

The current animation without a shield completely make sense

[weak gate]

And should the swords animation change with or without a shield?

I’m guessing the answer would be no

[mellow crater]

I don't see why

[white compass]

Well im not allowed to post a picture, but if you google "spear shield line"im pretty sure you will see them not holding spears like that. If they do, it is becasue they are holding some kind of javelin or pillum and are about to throw it and draw a sword.

[weak gate]

Exactly how I feel

[mellow crater]

well, I tried to explain why I can see the spear changing animation. If you see the sword changing animation, explain it to me.

[weak gate]

Now add the key word Viking in front of it

It’s like reading a tutorial trying to find a story

[white compass]

I see no viking holding it in a overhand stabbing/throwing position.

[weak gate]

You’re looking in the wrong place

[weak gate]

Did you add the magic word?

[white compass]

youtube " Spear and Shield Sparring: Viking Martial Arts | HEMA "

by Spearenjoyer

[mellow crater]

You seem to know a lot about spears Schrimmbly, would you explain us from where you got your knowledge ? Maybe it will be easier for us to agree

I mean, there is no point arguing about the correct usage of a spear with a spearmaster

[weak gate]

That’s one on one, not the spear line example you mentioned

When did we switch topics?

[mellow crater]

OHHH I got it
you are messing two things

[white compass]

I never mentioned line fighting, other did. I said line fighting does NOT apply in Valheim, It is NOT what I even care about haha

[weak gate]

I like doing research on medieval warfare and have some replica spears myself

[white compass]

I wanted to point out that in valheim we duel, we dont hold spears like that in a duel, and people keep drawing the conversation to line fighting and i get fooled in to discussing it

[weak gate]

I can dm you some pictures

[mellow crater]

We said this

• on close line fighting, current animation is the most logical, but this situation never takes place in Valheim
• in duel or small sized fights, current animation with a shield is less logical

[white compass]

Do we fight in long lines in Valheim? yes or no?

[weak gate]

And that’s why we have atgeirs

[mellow crater]

but atgeir are two-handed weapons

the gameplay is a bit different without a shield

[weak gate]

With your definition a spear is interchangeable with an atgeir

Do you just want the title of spear slapped on an atgeir?

[mellow crater]

nah, spears have a long range but it is not that long than the one of an atgeir, and of course you can't do the special attack of the atgeir with a spear

[weak gate]

But apparently you want it to be an atgeir when you don’t have a sheild

I’ll let you give your full thoughts, then I’ll reply

I think I’m rushing you

[mellow crater]

still the opposite
I want the base attack atgeir animation with a spear when I hold a shield in the other hand (only the base attack, not the special which make no sense for a spear). This gives you a bit more range (still far less than what the atgeir gives) trading with attack speed, and allow a security gameply where you keep your opponent far from you and deflect its hits with your shield.
When you don't hold a shield, the current animation make sense and there is no reason to change it.

[weak gate]

Then get an atgeir if you don’t like the spear

[mellow crater]

I told you the gameplay is different with a spear and with an atgeir
I played both if you doubt it

[weak gate]

And so you want atgeir gameplay with a spear

That’s all I’m hearing…

[mellow crater]

Oh well you know what I think I don't understand you and you don't understand me, so I will stop arguing on that

[weak gate]

…

Okay?

[gilded merlin]

Honestly, current spear animation makes sense to me only if you hold a shield in front of you and practically pushing on the enemy with it. Without a shield, it would make more sense to hold the spear two handed and thrust from the bottom up. Like the basic attack of atgeir.

[weak gate]

/unrelated
i think that it would be nice to have a drive attack with the spear if you hold down the attack button

In the end, long stick go poke, i don’t know why I’m arguing

[peak bronze]

I don't mind the current attack animation but I don't oppose changing it either, but bit more added range would be the most welcome change.

It's still effective very effective weapon.

[lament zinc]

IMHO instead of the same suggestion about the spear being posted over and over again by multiple people, they should await the combat update and see how things are going then.

Because I think the devs should be aware right now that people don't like the current mechanics.

Would also save going through the same (pointless) discussion over and over again.

[gilded merlin]

Lol, perhaps people enjoy going through the same discussion over and over while they wait (patiently) for more content

[lament zinc]

It's more likely that people don't think the idea they have hasn't come up in the past 4 years. Not on Steam, not on Reddit, not here.
So they post it, without even thinking to do a discord search to see if they might be mistaken.

[peak bronze]

What is this "search"? 👀

[lament zinc]

I suggest you do a search for it.

[gilded merlin]

I mean, probably... But the rest of us choose to engage them because it's something to do until the next update

[sick breach]

What are you getting that from?? He described an under hand thrust for the basic attack of a spear when holding a shield, and otherwise normal spear animations. Neither of those are similar to atgeir gameplay.

[pulsar forum]

Agree with you, and I think your suggestion is well explained with examples.

As a spear lover who came to this game from the Dark Souls series I have to admit the first time I used a Valheim spear was kind of ... disappointing.

Let's see what the next combat update brings us. 🙂

[white compass]

Thank you. Yes lets see. 🙂

[coral cliff]

why do suggestions immediately get devoured?

[peak bronze]

Elaborate?

[wanton atlas]

most get downvoted because other people don't like them

[languid ibex]

Arguing the realism behind spear and shield usage is fair, but it should be considered that it just might not be ideal from a gameplay point of view.

[rose swan]

Maybe he means when they get deleted due to the lightbulb?

[mellow crater]

the question stand this way for me : does having two sets of attacks that are technically equivalent (one more defensive than the other) increase the power of a weapon ?
If yes, no change to the spear.
If no, changes would make sense.
But what a difficult question to answer

[coral cliff]

i typed in a suggestion and the suggestion bot just yeets it out

[peak bronze]

Did you put light bulb emoji?

This one: 💡

[coral cliff]

oh i didn't realize you were suppposed to do that. i thought people were doing it just cause of trendy stuff

[peak bronze]

It literally reads in the channel description.

[coral cliff]

guess it would help if i actually click the thing at the top of discord lol

[coral cliff]

9/10 i never read that in any discord

[peak bronze]

Reading helps a lot in most cases.

[coral cliff]

ik right.

[peak bronze]

Yeah, some servers might have less strict rules and some others have bit stricter.

[coral cliff]

I found most things like that are extremely dated and have irrelevant information

[rose swan]

If it makes you feel any better, I’ve been here for a little while now and I forget the lightbulb like half the time lol

[stone citrus]

(ward) Suggestion from stellarcyan is actually incredible 👏 well done on that one - gives RuneScape vibes

Seasoned builders build things very similar to that 👌

Similarly, enshrouded has a ward/shrine build that simply gives a bonus upon interaction - but setting up a place as mentioned in the suggestion would be great design

[ocean mason]

Thanks. I respect that people aren't into it, I just thought I'd share. Maybe I play too much Northgard, but I thought it could be cool to incorporate the cosmology in ways that potentially also support clan/faction identities along with specialized skillsets.

I'm not surprised my nalbinding/distaff/seidr suggestion bombed, but ngl I thought arm rings would be more popular. 😂

[wanton atlas]

Sadly its needed or else people will think of it as a discussion post people write 🥲

[stiff stag]

For starters the arm bands/etc. sound like they are purely cosmetic, which wouldn't be worth giving up inventory slots for. And for another, things like dedicated armor slots have been denied/rejected, so there wouldn't be any way around that issue. Even if they provided benefits, there are plenty of other existing systems that already do that and it would feel unnecessary. Then there's the matter of how it was suggested to be unlocked. As far as I know specific upgrade stations don't control what can be crafted (it's the crafting level and materials you've obtained that do), unless the gem cutter was designed to be the one exception to that rule. The only way I could see it working is if they decided to add dedicated cosmetic slots, where only purely cosmetic equipment could be placed, but as noted extra inventory slots in general seem to be off the table.

[ocean mason]

Thanks for this

[magic crest]

Why do people dislike the suggestion for adding horses to the game ?

[ocean mason]

Seems to come up about once a month? Not sure why there aren't horses or goats or bears in the game...

[lofty wave]

Why do we need horses when we have lox already?

[magic crest]

Lox are gigantic. Horses would be better to traverse with.

[magic crest]

And also, because horses play a crucial part in viking/norse mythology.

[meager wave]

Don't dis the lox

[lofty wave]

Asksvin are smaller if that's your problem with them

[magic crest]

There’s nothing wrong with them. I’m just suggesting horses as a rideable mount would be helpful.

[lofty wave]

Also the suggestion is only one word long. Where would horses fit into progression? What would their drops be used for? Would they attack the player, and if so, how strong would they be?

[magic crest]

Those are all questions that could be figured out if the devs would even consider putting them in the game to begin with 😄.

[magic crest]

Also, there are over 30 other suggestions in there for horses that are detailed. I’m not the first person, nor will I be the last, to suggest implementing horses into the game.

[stark furnace]

#suggestions message

[gilded merlin]

That's not a good reason to not have a decent idea for why horses should be added. Really, if you're going to suggest something that has been suggested two score times already, at least try be unique with your take on it, suggest something specific that is different from all the others. But don't just suggest the thing with nothing else. That's asking for your suggestion to get 100% downvotes.

[stark furnace]

I'd hope they'd improve upon the current mounting system before adding any more tbh

[rose swan]

Wonder if we’ll get a Deep North mount 🤔

[gilded merlin]

Honestly, only thing I'd want out of mounts is the ability to hitch a mount to a cart of some kind. I really don't care which mount that is, or what cart they can be hitched to.

[peak bronze]

Mounted seal. 👀 🦭

[gilded merlin]

We already have 2 rideable mounts, which is great. Only other thing I'd want is a beast of burden type of mount, to carry lots of mined material over land to a waiting ship or portal

[stark furnace]

idk with stone portal I just don't see the usecase

[gilded merlin]

Stone portal is pretty late game. Beast of burden doesn't have to be so late game

[stark furnace]

🤔 oh I thought this related to deep north

[gilded merlin]

I don't really care at which point they add it

Just that they do

[rose swan]

To be clear, I don’t want any additional mounts just curious if we’ll get one come DN

[gilded merlin]

It can be reusing one of the current mounts or a new one

I just want a beast of burden somewhere in the game

[stark furnace]

Lox would fit the description i think

Not a fan of the idea myself but yea

[gilded merlin]

Except you can't yet hitch it to a cart

[stark furnace]

Well that's what you would change

[peak bronze]

I suppose it doesn't count that you can be encumbered and not lose stamina while riding?

[gilded merlin]

It technically works, yes. But it's not quite what is wanted

[peak bronze]

Fair. 👍

[gilded merlin]

It's djinn fulfilling of the wish

[peak bronze]

It's not that I would have engaged that much with the riding mechanics (except riding on Asksvin through lava is fun).

So that fit to my category of "I don't mind that much how it's currently but won't oppose if it was changed".

[granite geyser]

And they have been rejected each time.

And will continue to be rejected each time

[gilded merlin]

Unless you come up with something truly compelling. Gl with that

[stiff stag]

I suggest unicorns

[rose swan]

The only acceptable mount

[wanton atlas]

No. Personally I would have a nightmare trying to balance the game if players could Mount up on a horse

Then we would need enemies as fast as a horse

And be able to attack you on a horse

But how to balance the horse riding players against foot running players?

[stark furnace]

tbh you're already a horse with fenris armor + speed pot

[rose swan]

Yeah, I don’t really know what advantages a horse would have over a player that uses ratatoskr 🤔
I can give Asksvin a pass, since they have the unique ability to traverse over lava.

[granite geyser]

asksvins

[rose swan]

Voltures are pretty quick too 🤔

I can see it now…
“Horses die too quick in the Ashlands!”
“Getting horses to the Ashlands is too ridiculous, remove the bone serpents ranged attack!”

[stark furnace]

Yea, tbh I feel like mounts are just out of the scope of Valheim

[pulsar forum]

Greygwafrs on horses too
😂

[pulsar forum]

Horses are cool, would be a cool mechanic.
Also historically accurate(irl), I think.

But I see two possible ways on implementing that:

#1) a copy/paste of an already existing mounts (like a non-combat asksvin with a horse asset and less hit points)

#2) a completely new mechanic (and most likely a balance nightmare)

Perhaps it can work if presented as an early game "tutorial" on taming and mounting. I don't see it as late-game or even mid‐game mechanic🤔

[rose swan]

I think an early game (meadows/balck forest) mount would be overly complex, especially since mounts aren’t a central focus point of the game 🤔

[wanton atlas]

Totally agree.

if the game was ment to be on mount. the entire game would focus on mounted combat, mounts etc etc

like wolves would be as fast as the horse or "normal horse speed" so you will have to fight, or be good at out navigating them

but..

as a foot walking viking. you would never be able to outrun them

[granite geyser]

there's no point in arguing

[wanton atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/this-deathmonkeyxl-deathmonkey-this-post-this-message-gif-24125642

[pulsar forum]

Indeed.

Just thinking in how it could fit, but as toomuchdogg said, even bein an early game thing would be messy.

Scales is right pointing it as out-of-scope

Maybe in Valheim 2😜 😜

[gilded merlin]

autocucumber strikes again! lol

though, now that you've put the idea out there, we need the ability to ride houses! make it happen!

lol

[pale drum]

My only mount is the F key, and I unlock that after the first boss

[stiff stag]

Mobile homes would be the most fitting for mounts, they should start there.

[wanton atlas]

just ask an AI to make it

[pulsar forum]

Hello ChatGPT, add Deep North to Valheim

[wanton slate]

I apologize if the ☆ trophy thing isnt a new suggestion, but I really think its a slam dunk idea regardless!

My first time going to the plains, I got immediate slapped with a fuling beserker ☆☆. I really wish I was able to display it proudly because my goodness I spent forever trying to beat it with one other person

[wanton atlas]

you don't have to apologise for posting what someone else have posted before

that's why the ♻️ exists

[pulsar forum]

Upvoted for that one would be nice to have the starred variants.
But could be tricky since starred mobs have more chance to drop a trophy 🤔

[stark furnace]

Starred mobs don’t tho

[wanton atlas]

it's a loot table

1-1 will still produce 1

instead of 0-20 gives diffrent number of drops

[pulsar forum]

Oh, I see👍🏻

[wanton atlas]

the thing is tho. we haven't made any cut-of-heads or something for enemies so 🤷

[granite geyser]

are you sure you want essentially three times as many objects occupying inventory space?

[wanton atlas]

3 times? 🤔

[granite geyser]

currently one starred mob = ONE trophy

if suggestion: ONE starred mob = THREE trophies

[wanton atlas]

so..?

you don't get that many trophies from mobs besides deer which have a really high drop chance 😄

[wanton slate]

I guess what Im suggesting is that ☆ variants would drop their version of the trophy and not the standard trophy. Im not concerned about inventory space because I have to make trips to drop off supplies at my base regardless

[wanton atlas]

personally, I don't care about inventory size

[pulsar forum]

My perception on that topic is like late-game collectibles

but indifferent for recipes and other mechanics

(Such as fish levels)

[wanton atlas]

it's all about pocket portals anyways

"oh my inventory is full. drop a chest or 3. fill them, build portal. pull all stuff back"

if we had kept the OG idea about rare teleporter build spots. sure. then inventory management would be abit more anoying

[wanton slate]

I dont think my trips are long enough to fill my inventory with trophies anyway unless Im deer hunting, and if they are, I'd happily sacrifice one slot (or all my regular boring trophies Ive collected during this trip) for a ☆/☆☆ trophy

[meager wave]

Smiffe...... can we get a trophy for ||Lord Reto|| please. All the other minibosses have trophies.

[wanton slate]

As an artist, Im a huge fan of anything I can use to decorate, but I know people really like more useful features;-;

[eager plover]

suggest it see how the community feels about it

[pulsar forum]

Yes. There are priorities

[wanton slate]

Thats also why I haven't really suggested anything in the past, but this one in particular is a feature Im surprised doesnt already exist so I have to say something😄

[granite geyser]

#suggestions message

[eager plover]

ok then its already been done, then just be patient and see what the devs do

[granite geyser]

i know

[pulsar forum]

Devs already have their priorities set, and are unlikely to change. So don't worry about that.

Suggestions are our ideas with the intention of contributing.

[rose swan]

Starred surtling trophies would offer interesting lighting options 🤔

[peak bronze]

Yeah, idea sounds nice but it's just more item bloat that fills your inventory.

[wanton slate]

Id say that about all trophies, but I enjoy the option to have them, plus these special variants are not like extremely easy to come by anyway

[rose swan]

I think on paper that’s the case. However, in practice, I imagine it wouldn’t be all that bad 🤔
Like how often are you running into 2 star mobs that are dropping trophies? And if you were lucky enough to 1) find a 2 star troll for example, and 2) get a trophy drop from it, would it really be an annoyance/bloat?

fish were expanded into 5 different qualities, and that hasn’t been problematic. Would this not be the case for trophies? 🤔

(Ah yes, the double thinker! 🤔🤔)

[peak bronze]

I understand, idea sounds cool on paper but still would be bloating bit (and yeah, you can just drop them off but still).

[rose swan]

Totally get it, I can see both sides of the discussion. Taking a skeleton for example, common mob- we all have like 20+ trophies laying around 😂
10% a skeleton is 1-star, right? So that would be like a couple/handful of 1-star trophies.
If we look at the 2-star… 1% of spawning, 10% of trophy, so most would likely never even see a 2-star trophy 🤔

Gosh, that would be like a 1/1000 chance, is my math right? Would be a pretty neat trophy literally

[wanton slate]

Thats what Im trying to say 🥲 out of all my friends, Im the only one whos fought a 2 star troll and I've only ever seen one

[meager wave]

If you don’t want them just leave them

[rose swan]

I don’t think that’s a very strong stance to be honest 🤔

I do get it, extra trophies is indeed adding some fluff (or bloat, but I don’t like that word )

The case needs to be made on why something like this would add to the game. As mentioned above, collectors would probably love them. Would be good for decoration as well. Another thing discussed a good while ago was the idea of adding more lore and flavor text to these trophies. I think that would be really interesting, and a good opportunity to build upon the setting.

I’ll say this as well- something that definitely shouldn’t happen is locking any sort of craftables behind starred trophies. That would not go well lol

[meager wave]

Totally agree with that

[gilded merlin]

What is this "inventory size" you speak of?

[zenith sand]

i really like this idea, but i don't know what would be sold

[granite geyser]

#suggestions message

[zenith sand]

that idea is sick af

thank you so much

[mellow crater]

#suggestions message Don't really want Turtles in Valheim but I 👍 the idea of passive mob in oceans

I can see a very big mob that is passive, all the fear he would create for sailors until they realize it actually doesn't try to eat them.

[lament zinc]

You mean we all need to (re)name our characters to Jonah?

[peak bronze]

Getting eaten by whale to skip 3 ingame days.

[wanton atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/anthonytonyboy-bugdictus-whale-orange-rich-gif-18339069

[granite geyser]

nice people. People who even put their lives on the line to help me kill stuff.

#suggestions message

i will interpret this as a joke bc it's way too funny to not consider it as such

[lament zinc]

It isn't.

Just read up from #valheim-chat message

[granite geyser]

already did

doesn't mean it's less funny

dvergr are 1) neither your allies nor your friends and 2) not the kind to "put their lives on the line to help you".

the player just have the same common enemies as them, and they kill those enemies bc once they're done with you they will attack the dvergr. they do it bc it's in their interest, not due to altruistic reasons

they could not care less about the viking or what they do or what they want to do

[quasi eagle]

FWIW the earliest suggestion for a friendlier trade I found (and linked) was yours

[languid ibex]

The suggestion acts like they can't just break the box and run away to leave them be.

You don't have to kill Dvergr or lead enemies to them. There are even cases where you'll come across camps that have already been toppled by enemies around it, making it more noble to use their technology to take down the Queen.

[rose swan]

Wish we had a Dvergr emoji 🤔
(No not you! —> )

[fathom atlas]

#suggestions message

very good suggestion, gives us another incentive to look for starred enemies

[pulsar forum]

Dvergr are nice. I avoid killing them as much as my greed allows me.

As mentioned above, the pacifist way is possible tho. You'll eventually find already destroyed/abandoned Dvergr places. Just takes more time.

[mellow crater]

Yes

I usually steal a crate without killing dvergr

[granite geyser]

@earnest grove

#general message

[wanton atlas]

tho I keep telling people to post in suggestions about it so we get some kind of levreage how many people are interested or not

[languid ibex]

Not sure why some people are adamant about 'x decides if they platform the game' it really isn't the case with the nature of valheim, it comes down to how many hurdles are the devs willing to jump over to appease each console's requirements. It only gives the developers more incentive to do such a thing if some demand exists.

[wanton atlas]

not sure myself why people are so adamant on either

it's like normal world

either you reach out, or someone reaches out to you

why would it have to be exclusive either way?

[rose swan]

#suggestions message How would they know if they were hit accidentally? 🤔

And further, why wouldn’t they attack you even if you hit them on accident 👀

[quick cedar]

Good point 😅

[pulsar forum]

Implementing a "apolgize" emoji. When used, all dvergr in a range becomes friendly again

||Just joking||

[feral meadow]

I was under the impression that Valheim isn't on PlayStation yet because they don't allow early access games?

We would only expect Valheim on PS4/5 after it leaves early access (1.0 comes out)

[rose swan]

#suggestions message I don’t know, I don’t think it can be much more straightforward
And also, can always just crank up the resource rate.

[stark furnace]

There already is a way to automate wood production with greydwarf spawner too

[rose swan]

I’ve never gotten into automation in Valheim, but I’ve never personally felt like my wood collection rate was too low lol

[languid ibex]

My wood bins are full, and I have countless x50 piles at outposts I could never get through... in solo play. I don't think I could ever understand wanting to automate wood gathering.

[stiff stag]

The game isn't designed around automating things in general anyway, pretty much everything requires the player's input in one way or another.

[peak bronze]

"Add QoL of automatic farms where I don't need to lift a finger!" Sounds like that.

[wanton atlas]

@versed fog adding state-changes like that is kinda hard to do.
Some enemies have to be awaken when they can be. like Wolves and Abominations, but changing back to that "idle" state is alot harder since it's bound to break every now and then.

[versed fog]

i see

[versed fog]

would it work before they’ve been aggroed?

[wanton atlas]

no

I mean they can do "things" before, but switching states like that is afaik, prone to breaking

and broken mobs are just poor sight to see 😦

[versed fog]

hmm

i mean it could be like an abomination where some trolls (or a similar creature) spawn in sleeping instead of having to switch

something to think about thank you for your detailed response

[mellow crater]

I think anything simple just like the current « smelling » animation of trolls would do for your suggestion Adam, no ?
Was it that hard to implement Smiffe ?

[wanton atlas]

that wouldn't be to hard to do no

but that's not "sitting down" or something like that

[languid ibex]

Yeah I wouldn't call the sniffing an idle animation personally

[wanton atlas]

tho it is