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Simple yet effective low-tech means of keeping one's house warm and dry π
four very small storage sheds filled with 3 different wood types and far right has a little over 5k stone
found a pretty view
How this fish went to get here? Vanila mode!
its going for a walk! leave it be XD
Hahaha
fell out of a cave, they are instanced in the sky, so it fell all the way down to that spot, can happen also with the hildr cave boss and the mistlands boss as well that we know of
it was literally sent down to you from heaven.
If it was an RP game I would say that some kind of eagle drop it down
Actually it is a good sign to know there's a cave nearby
Crypt you s blocked by a damn copperπ
happened to me too, just click at the bit of exposed entrance on the top right (i think i see a bit there)
Ok
or you can always mine it π
got some serpents cooking!
looks like your very far from the ocean
I've walked a lot of miles :D
tamed some lox and made them a pasture
cinematic shot of this cute sunken runestone ^-^
just missing someone who you would kill Assassins Creed style XD
are you volunteering? π
jk id never β€οΈ
well.. i would have to toggle the friendly fire on XD
Looking great dude
The dagger jump atack could work well with a enemy or player bellow
If you have a base with many instances, you can build a spiral staircase to the heavens faster than the game can calculate that it's not structurally sound π
Finally I can take decent pictures from above from a different angle than our huge tower, and without devcommands π
Nice!
some wierd deer running in this forest π
Nice pond
Gotta hand it to these greylings. Theyre so brave coming at me while I'm just mining stones at night with my 4 wolves
this copper deposit was insane
worth it 
You hear somethin?

I see that as a win win u get copper and crypt
Solitude
@daring wing this is how much of the basement i can see
you can see a bit of my tombstone
How come the ward is also down?
bad luck ig, we should talk somewhere else the snail mode is annoying
its a clash of titans!
At this moment this troll knew..
He could just chill in bf and contemplate sunsets as usual
I didnt think afire arrow in the ass would take 1/4 of hishealth but well he was slated to lose the momenthe met the abom
Backstab damage is nice
new land finally discovered :3
Name this land N-Island πΊ
found this strange terrain generation where the biomes cut off at a straight line
Watch out for the border patrol.
Maybe build a wall.
not my finest carpentry
temporary outpost after sailing
Looks like all those lifehacks of fixing stuff with sawdust tbh π
i advertise my masonry services at 500 gold per building
spawns in 3000 gold Build me a town.
are you sure
thats only 6 building, thats a village, if even
I mean, no. I was just pointing out how daft charging in-game currency is.
idk how to disable hud
is this big enoguh for boars?
On xbox lb+pause on pc not sure ctrl+f3?
Depends on how many you want. You can always make it bigger if needed.
how many boars would you guess it can house?
How wide is it?
its 7 wide and 15 long so... 14 meters wide and 30 emters long?
though i dont know if the edges which have the 45degree roof pieces count with the width or not
It can fit more than enough boars
If you divide that into sections you could house 10+ boars (max of 5 in 10m)
just found a second elder altar lol
ty
not what im looking for, thanks game
i think i found my base location
somewhere in the village to socialise
nice pic, Valheim is a very pretty game in its own way
true, i love the shading. without dof its amazing too
@alpine pantherTook this one of my village without DoF
pff thats it?
Thats it?
im just better at this point
My Village has 2 houses, a boathouse, a warehouse, a crafting house, a cook house, 2 farms, a pig pen and a wolf pen
im new lmao, so i just trying to understand mechanics rn, exploring etc
I tried to model mine on a viking village, though we've modernised as we've progressed
Blacksmith (left) and Tavern (right) in my Harbor
happy family
he litterally survived a fire arrow in the back of the head from a sneak atack with a blacnk HP bar π¦
..why do you have no food what is u doin
No food playthrough, must never get hit or fall? Lol
onions :3
cause i was at farm and waiting for boars to have kinky time and got boared and saw a brute outside and shot him with a fire arrow thinking hed die but he didnt
What I'm currently lacking in my survival lol gone over 4 mountains pretty thoroughly and not found a single seed, at this rate I'll have better luck fishing them out of the ocean 
oh shit onions are mountain tier? i should probably keep an eye out for that huh
idk what im doing
That's why I searched if before even attending the bonemass and I'm still didn't attend to bonemass cuz I want to explore more land lol, so basically when I finally make a lvl 3 cauldron I will be fully prepared lol
Indeed
weve been to 2 mountains, mined 2 silver veins, killed 6 golems and well havent founda single ruin
The onions are really hard to find, I only got 5 from like 5-6 mountains, where 2 of them had 3 eggs
I am trying to get them now to face yagluth with a higher tier stamina food but may have to just forget them for now... but mostly i wanna do something with all my wolf meat i can't use without onions π©
Look for old rundown looking cabins, that's usually the best bet to find a few onion seeds
I managed to make over 300 onions (they still grow) from 5 onion seed
Bare minimum needed is one and you can make hundreds over a bit of time
I also have around 80 wax and barley already, so that means the only thing left is lox farm
Indeed, got plenty of that as well, I've been running around the plains my yag alter is collecting tar stone and bm for when i start my main base before heading towards the queen. Need to go to the swamp next door and get some more iron before that as well.
Work in progress.
Needs some interior decoration mainly.
Found one of the highest peaks and made Breidablick, Heimdalls hall.
Complete with a fully upgraded forge, kitchen and of course a magic nook in the highest tower.
I like to base houses on Norwegian stave churches, this is the third iΒ΄ve built.
Both on this server is built without freeflying.
Some more screenies of my portal hub. I love chilling here at night.
Night time there must be incredible
The border of that leftmost continent is going to be a great place to walk the length of, collecting drops from all the hares that get killed by plains creatures.
i found a village with 5 snausage makers
i had no idea you could interact with Halstein
Hardcore Immersion+, no map no teleporters... look what we just stumbled across
Sneak in there
My rendition of a βGreat Tavernβ
damn very nice
I dont need fishing rod. I was born a fisherman. Fish just leap on my feet when I demand it
Day 296 finally found the Haldor
Does the posts stop the spawns?
you will definitely need an incinerator
Is down
Oh i misspelled, i am talking about obliterator(https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Obliterator)
When you wake up to early
i had a fish on the roof odf my dock once
more worth than gold π
Sunrise in the mountains π€
i wonder who's there
me when i see three lox outside my front door all about to smash my head in
abomination heads make for good decor
rate my starter cooking station
now you just need enough meat to cook
lol yeah I need a bajillion more leather so ive been prepping to bring enough food home for the next 10 hours of gameplay. the fires are accessable on the underside (I have a basement) and I wanna do the same on the other side of the entryawy
I use setups like that for coal manufacturing with extra meat
@daring wing the ooze bombs didnt work neither did killing the support mage with spinesnap and carapace arrows but i shot the ward turns out they only need 3 arrows to break and now im so close
last thing i did i made noise in the opposite corner to lure the dverger away, then fom the main floor i placed stakewalls with the lower snap point to make the dverger unable to see me. now i have my stuff end of the dvergr story
Ok, so now it's fine?
eh im going to slaughter them one day
Good to know! But i still can't see why ooze bombs didn't work?
the mage just kept healing the dvergers'
i didnt see any kind of cooldown with the healing spell
But did you see my suggestion that you should have removed one of floor tiles in the middle to be able to place bombs directly?
yes and thats what i did
40 bombs were not enough to kill him? π
he healed everybody every 10 bombs
Oh i see, that bastard could count..
You shold've finished the whole story with a happy-end screenshot - you seating in your armor in an empty basement and grilling meat strung on a dvergr extractor
excuse me, WHAT?
If you think you can bribe the Elder there, you're wrong
What do you mean by bribe?
its very common for them to be close to each other
Haldor (a vendor) can often be close to the 2nd boss
I mean, I've just never had this THIS close before usually they're a good distance from each other but this seem ridiculous
I cant. I got home repaired everything, emptied my inventory, removed the death marks and then i remember that i had a million things that i had to do at my base
It's more likely than you think ^^ my Haldor is close to my elder on at least 2 seeds
yeah, same
good first visit to mistlands, i should probably kill yagluth soon lol. 1 dungeon down, decent loot
oh you havent done mistlands yet?
oh, on this world
i've completed it on a couple other worlds, but not my main soloworld
oh, nice π
Modders are wild
coming back to the village at night
They are, but we should share those in #mods-screenshots and not here π
But this is screenshot from the games, so here is no mistake i think
The game WITH MODS. This channel is for the unmodified game so people's expectations aren't changed and it doesn't get confusing for viewers. The #mods-screenshots is for screenshots of the changes mods add.
i got 12 black cores in my first dungeon lol
nice
Do u think people go to the discord before they play the game?
many do...
anyone know why this portion of the black forest looks like this?
Yes, and they always get confused by modded content or expect stuff that isn't even in the game.
you are near the starting height for mountain biome π (basically right at it)
holy smokes you're right, it says mountain and there's like 3 little patches
Enjoy it, looks cool π
i have i think 2 places like this right next to each other on my world π
it looks more like ash than snow π personal preference though haha
enjoy your own little "ashlands" then XD
"The Ground is Shaking"
Oh yes, but notice that all the trees are elevated except for a few, i ran outta stone lmaooo
btw, you donΒ΄t worry about fall dmg with 25 health? π
I worry more about getting surprised raided while I havent eaten yet π , havent died yet to fall dmg! cross my fingers
you didnΒ΄t?! π rare specimen indeed
Wall renowation in the process
I'm sure you know, but you can't lose more than 100 health in a single fall
I guess this is what they call Sunken Crypts? 
Love when weird things happen in biome borderlands
i want to flannten ground to plant carrot, how do i flatten ground
hoe to flatten + cultivator to cultivate and plant
if you have stone youβll be able to raise the ground if needed
does anyone else subject themselves to this torture before building their base? ive gone thru tens of thousands of stones and still far from being done
That's some serious dedication π
know it's even more of a pain to terraform in water
can't even render the edges it's that vast xD
What do you even do with that many days
Build, etc
Can I see your favourite build u have done there but still 1500 days is a lot
You can sail a longship under the btidge on both sides of thst building lol. Itsore impressive i game
Wow how long did it take to build and is the entirior builded
We are approaching 2000 days on our server, its mostly me building unnecessary bridges and bases and boss arenas noone uses
A lot of the time is spent farming materials. Like ive farmed 100 crypts and almost used up all the iron(one swamp had 84 iron). Ive also cleared out a large portion of a large mountain of stone for various builds
What do you do to get iron if you run out?
I got another 2 worlds on the side I'll use with even more crypts closer to spawn 
My base is more of a city. That bridge build is just the center connecting two continents. Last time i gave a tour it took 2 hours lol
Would love to visit it, we also start building city around spawn area, but got burnt out along the way. Our world mostly scattered bases
Well, I'm free about 40 minutes from now and then for 3 hours, or most day tomorrow so if either works for you, feel free to DM me
Whats your timezone?
1 hour behind me
Perfect, how about 18-19 in the evening tomorrow?
Works for me
Thanks!
If anyone else wants to come visit too, lemme know
got some 1 star boars!
now i need to find 2 star boar boars and make a entirely new farm
This is certainly interesting
Quaint Draugyr village
Burn it!
U can abuse their spawner for sausages, just burning them every time they spawn
Imagine being killed right after u spawn, a bit cruel
Its like killing kids what lived 1-3 min after birth
Except these kids are the walking corpses of a people who challenged Odin
and these kids taste great
Only a small part of them, the rest is just wasted.
small victories today, my path just overgrown enough that i like it now xD
well i did kinda do it but the hoe leaves much to be desired because it doesnt flatten a protruding part of the hill to the same level ground
try to mine it with pickaxe π
even the piggies enjoy the fishing dock xD
i did just that, but i still want a way to flatten ground easy instead of a lumpy bumpy uneven ground. Still planted my carrots though, but i want to ask so next time when i move biome i will learn how to
Only way to flatten ground perfectly is with a mod, afaik. It is a painstaking process otherwise, i play on xbox so i don't have access to mods, and have to do it the hard way
its not that hard tho...
ah i see, i will do it the hard way then
No, but if you wanna do a big area, it is time consuming and a lot of work if you wanted to make it completely flat as possible
and it shouldnt take some effort to flatted a large area? XD
Lol that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying the only way to not put the work in is to use a mod
Well no, you said : "Only way to flatten ground perfectly is with a mod..." . Which is not true, it will take some effort but its not at all impossible π
Right, but it still technically won't be perfect that way either
i gota perfectly flat area for my base, what do you mean?
I mean, if it took more than 1 click of your mouse to make it flat, it is not perfect.
if it took more than 1 click to pound the ground and the other part are still uneven, it is not perfect
it took me atleast 2 or 3 days irl
so
yes
it is flat/even
2-3 days IRL? nah i am not gonna
that entailed rasing the tiny island like 8 meters and flattening what was 8 meters to high
Best way is to use both hoe and pickaxe. Some terrain can't be leveled for some reason.
If itβs been lowered or raised 8 meters it canβt be lowered/raised any further
I know, I mean that sometimes it's hard to level it on the same level. Like I did base on meadows and sometimes ground was not flat
The idea is to use as few instances as possible, so there's no need to make it perfectly flat unless you need to. IMO. If there's some little bumps here and there i don't bother with them. There's typically going to be flooring or something covering it anyways.
getting the ground pancake flat does take a bit of work but when yr planning a build and the higher parts might lack stability it's for sure a factor
Rename one to mace?
HAH
that would be good, except ive recently killed off all of the chickens who are fighter pilots and left only the ones with their own names already. i'll have to raise one more
i'm not against having two chickens from the same character, i already have both anakin and vader
this is all wrong π‘ kenobi needs to have the high ground 
If Kenobi dated it would be a short girl, cause they are cute and he'd always have the high ground.
In the morning when she wakes up he'd go "Hello there".
Milestone! \o/
cool
whats the seed?
well, the trench was dug to get the cart out, right next to another silver vein, wellp
oh honey just yeet it down
you can simply dig a hole, put a bed and a fire in it, and cover it with a roof, spending less resources πΌ
Im good
Any idea why these just stopped falling?
You need to break off more of them. Theyre invisibly connected further than youd think
Well, never happened something shitty like this
Just build stepladders up to it and pick at it if you cant reach
Is that 2 stone pillars merged?
I am already 5 ladders up π Do you suggest go from bottom or at random? Bcs when I break everything from bottom, then I can'z build my ladders so high
Nah, just one. The second thing you can see on the bottom left is just random stone in the ground
Reak the ones at the bottom yes
You were right. Just after this screenshot, I mined the most bottom stone and it fell. But damn it was tough one π (with 7 fulings, one**, one lox during night π )
Yeah, you always wanna break the pieces closest to the ground
I mined dozens of these tower this game. But this high connection (it was two times in the row..) surprised me.
if you have some parts that are still uneven after using a hoe, you can use your pick to break down the bigger lumps, then smooth everything down with the hoe after.
my next house untill i find all things for the boss
yea but we already took the boat back to base, only for us to have missed this by a mere meter
Looking great
Make a cauldron for better food and plant carrots (if you havenβt already) to unlock recipes
well, this is a pretty bad silver vein, mostly cause itll probably not explode from breaking a single piece like all the others
one giant hole from 3 silver veins next to eachother
there it goes
CasualLife
Very lovely kitchen in progress
my seventh golem! damnit!
A tip is to dig a hole and drag it with a harpoon into the hole. Then it will stay there forever and new ones wont spawn. I promote golem free living
bruh
It be like that sometimes lol
well, i found a castle
Iron mace AND frostner???? why not just frostner, its the same thing as the mace, but better hahaha
well the mace has more blunt damage and the golems arent exactly weak to frost
Sir, you are supposed to use the pickaxe
hell no
Hahaha okay π€·ββοΈ its the meta but suit yourself π (You can stand on top of them and just keep chopping with the pickaxe, super easy)
hardly, its so inefficient
easier to just stunlock them to death in a few seconds with the iron mace
i didnt know what i was missing out on using the iron mace on them, litterally killed it in seconds lol
if you sneak up on them and use special attack you do half their HP in one attack lol
Okey looked it up and APPARENTLY you guys are right. But i will not admit fault. I am still right, as always π

try it with mistwalker or a bm sword
no, only pickaxe
pick||blackmetal||axe
making progress, all in survival
I've done it just for the prestige of saying I've done it
who attaches prestige to an inferior method?
my friend after wandering to Plains
the raft of shame and humiliation π
Trip on boats in HC mod (off map)
the cooler method
another yag dead
Can you believe just how fun this game is for what we paid for it? The install is tiny, it's just awesome. I've been playing this for (too many hours)... props to the Devs... this game is just "fun" you can play it however the hell you want, no worries.
Bad tree π
Size dont matter, it's the motion of... Wait nvm. Yeah this game is pretty fantastic
Did you create this? Also #fanart
ohh thanks i didnt notice the fanart channel
and yeah lol, that was a good way to waste a nights sleep XD
this is just... sad
you dont like offshore gas fields? π
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Even worse π This is our slowly growing project:
Yes, effort level: questioning my sanity. Actually, I have been letting the lay of the land inform the shape of my build in more recent times. Makes for an interesting challenge.
I like to keep terraforming to a minimum, but do use it where necessary, mainly for defence. Not building a permanent base without making it inaccessible to anything that walks, crawls or jumps.
The challenge is to find good locations where that can be done with as little terraforming as possible..
I just do a lot of heavy terraformingnot for defense, but because I want my base to look good. Caus it doesn't matter how good the build is if the area around it looks garbage, seriously the landscape generation in this game is pretty rough, not very nice to look at lol
What's this
Haha I think the opposite, I love how the landscape looks so I don't want to mess with it too much. I only wish I could plant some bushes around the base, not just trees or veggies π
Two rocks in plains spawned across the river. I am making two huge towers around them with a bridge in between. It takes a loooong time to compute the exact diameter, position of the towers, plus I wanted to have the bridge in the middle of each tower. In the end it fits perfectly, but it was at least dozens of hours in that just to get what you can see in the screenshot π
(As the rock counts as the ground, I can build structure and even stone so high and far from the rock)
Iβm going to steal your idea, I have exact same river/stone pillar at my base
But not sure if integral structure in the middle would hold
Let me know what you come up with! It is not easy to build something that is pretty when it's so huge. I need a design for hexadecimal tower with each side long of 5 (of the larger base wood beam or 2.5 longer corewood beams)
Just seeing those bumps everywhere irritates me π¬
I bring a shovel with me everywhere to smooth them out.
Is your plan to use whose pillars just as support, not to show them?
yeah, thats my research right now. looks good
I don't like it flat haha
yes. exacly!
takes a A LOT of stone,wood AND IRON π
If you guys come up with some good design for that monstrosity (to not have flat walls), let me surely know! π I'm not sure what I'm doing after I build the base shape yet
I have raised walls but also openings to my breeding pits. My buildings are all on a layer above that. I used to have a forest near the base but my Lox army denuded it π€· The maximum height of the raised walls varies with the terrain so that is what influences my build layout
This is pillars in question, base just behind
Yeah, you have very similar place like I have. Maybe you have a little variable height of the rocks
I love you minimap BTW π I have died at my place also alot π
ah yes, all those deaths are by falling from scaffoldings, i didn't have cape at this point π
Well I didn't kill Yagluth yet π Nor have seen Mistlands yet. I try to overlook any thing you have I don't know to avoid spoilers π
I know I know, bad channel for this π
Ok, then ignore all my spellcasting things in hotbarπ
Maybe there should be a screenshot channel per update
I did build tower on pillar, just to see how it looks, and I`m not very happy with it
I mean....... it's 1+ year old content at this point, when does it stop being a spoiler?
Valheim discord is rife with spoilers
long old pilgrimage to get my stuff back
Our first crypt experience when we didn't bring a teleport and an abomination outside smashed us and our boat into pieces
nothing better than the sight of home after a lengthy voyage
I was doing a solo voyage on my family server, boat got attacked by a deathquito so i dipped into the swamps to get it fixed and got piled on by Wraith, Leeches, Draugrs, slime and an oozer
trying to make something
Interesting and unexpected effect from having guck torches on the level above.
Finally found some onion seeds, in a chest in a small run down tower on the backside of a cliff 
The cart full of silver hit another silver vein when I threw it off the mountain 
Lucky bastard.
Make that 2 (two) silver veins, just casually sticking out. Good thing I have a mission portal assigned.
The house is looking so good
leave no trace of your passing...
welp, ig im ready for ashlands, moved all my items from my last world to a new, so i dont get any world changes because of the update. (I have too much things)
me, a noob, seeing 199 health: 
ahahhahahah and i literally took left over food, not the bests
pog
As long as you havenβt explored most of the ashlands it should be fine. Iβm still playing on a world from one month after the game launched
I even found a queen boss location really close to my plains island base.
I`ve made outpost for ashland exploration, but build it to close so some ashland loaded in already, I hope not much though
a new world isnt needed, unless you explored the empty ashlands
I found it! π₯°π₯°π₯°
Lucky boy π
Hardcore mode π
saved by the fence π
Almost had ground pork
My best Pal ^^
@silent grail
this is the world saved files
Yeah you need that vdf file on your pc in the same map and you can then open it locally iin game.
i dont get it
Going thru some old screenies, I remembered this β€οΈ that deer is still around!
i feel like this is too big, is it too big? it will only house carrots turnips and onions
It's never too big is my motto
found a good use for Kromsy
sweating
that deer is paid actor
Mistlands when unmisted is nice, would be awesome with a setting to have the mists clear after the Queen is slain or something.
Just place BAJILLIONS of wisp torches all over. Poor asthetic, but it works. takes tons of time to gather all those wisps too, without spawn commands. The map even shows the mist gone as you clear an area
Defeating Yaglut 5 times might help with that
a nice peacefull day in the meadows killing everything i see moving outside the base π
Needs more ballista π
first time seeing a man who build fence on top of the fence
well, with the terrain raised around me, that was the only way to be 100% nothing would get in
i did old timer water trap base, everything is fenced, boom shaman spawned right into my base
that does remind me, i need to turn a few more dwarves into workbenches
January 27th though??
IKR? I'm waiting for Ashlands, been playing BG3 π Finally got to the ultimate fight in it
n00b. You need to update your splash image to even approach my skillz π
So u challenging me for cinematic photo on my steam cover? Say less.
My splash screen is cute ^-^
Looks like deep thinking going on in this shot
Those are respectful figures
U gotta touch grass, thats my point
Wait for the magic.
Okay?
How do you replace the front photo with a screenshot?
Right click the image and set custom background ^^
Thanks
rlly nice
Caught a nice little shot of the village
It really triggers my OCD when I see bumpy ground π¬
You know you can make the stone path smoother by holding down Shift while clicking
Not everything has to be perfect π
Recent no-map no-portal play-through run main base main room decoration π€
nice!
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This makes me lonely π
This is sick
How
Right click, set custom background
Ty
my naming abbility
so while i was digging the hole to capture a 1 star wolve, a i got atacked bya 1 star wolve in the hole, and now i ahve a 1 star wolve
that's a great idea actually.
9999999
? πΌ
lots of damage ! :D
π
"I am not gonna sugarcoat it"
Said Viking furiously as he hit the rock with the power of Odin's punch
finally
i wonder how much stuff u needed for this lol
some=)
i would add a second layer on the right side to atleast not be seen or be shot at by archers or hit by stones
Man I rly need to up my food game
Sausage is life
ayyy, 3 of my 4 most-used foods
Thing is it's very hard hardcore and I feel like I should be eating better lol
Just need to get some ancient bark for my food setup since I moved away from our main shared base
ooh this is a cool generation first time I've seen this big a gap in frost caves
some ancient jotun didnΒ΄t have a good time here π
So i do wide shots of the village thought i'd do a tour in pics
my wife and mines house
The Cookhouse
the workshop (only got the forge in this shot)
Love it
The boathouse
The farms
The smelters and kilns (outside the storehouse)
The outdoor socialising area. Theres also a boar farm and a wolf farm i havent taken snaps of.
on my sp of 500+ days i have only seen 3 or 4 of these but suddenly is see this. i can tell it is rare but i can't tell how rare
Pleas teach me one day how to build like this
DUDE π
Hardcore and your still eating honey???
uncommon certainly, we've seen 4 together as well here at least, not sure of more
My first day on a multiplayer survival world. We ended up playing for 9 hours.
a full chest of coal! yay! but my wood stockpile went down by 1 iron chest so now i need more wood
now these puppers jsut need to grow up π
Rude
my first time seeing a troll ive also only been playin pc for about a week so i didnt fight him yet still getting use to controls lol didnt wanna miss plays keys
planted 399 onion plants, soon ill be able to make onion soup
pretty nice place to sit and chill for no reason
this should work for capturing wolfs shouldnt it?
Remove the stairs
i need to rebuild my boathouse, the longboat doesnt fit π
oh shit
that errie look
i uh ran ashore cause i wasnt paiyng attention to where i was sailing
Usually not but this was my last cave and I ran out of good stuff π
I need to make a lot of good food
found hildir! right next to a draugr village!
That is a lovely place
Sounds like you need to make a new village there
this photo was taken two years ago, still my main wallpaper on pc
Why would you want a dark picture where you canβt see anything as a wallpaper?
Odin
Ah I c it now
Idk i see the whole photo just fine
Some ppl lower their monitor brightness making it hard to see when it's all dark π
For the love of Odin's shiny beard, WHY ARE THERE FIVE SEEKER SOLDIERS DOWN HERE?!?!?!
iron smelting
Looks like you're giving an inspirational speech in front of them
Very efficient
I started my first no map very hard combat playthrough, so far so good. But after making a sundial compass i realized that the sacrificial stone area is literally a compass
i checked on 3 of my other worlds with maps and that point is always facing north (my original north was off by 2m in my dial)
cuz it is a compass by design
Yeh, i never noticed because I've never played without a map before 
particle effects and weather just amaze me
That's gonna be a great farming spot for you later on, that's actually nice
Getting Seeker Soldier trophies suck
Yeeeeah - that and all the other things I have to clear out to get to the 5 seekers π€£
Died 3 times in this damned pit
STONKS
Smelt Harder, Smelt Faster.
Otherwise i will destroy all of you
That one won't inspire me. I'm no smelter tho
Gonna be my most detailed hand drawn map yet. 1 square is approx 100Γ100m opposed to 200Γ200m as i usually go with
should be enough?
i think it is enough π
nope its not, i would need 586 silver and i have 414 :v
what do you need 586 silver for XD
maxed wolf armor, maxed draugr fang, maxed frostner, maxed silver shield, maxed silver sword, butcher's table
and when ashlands come out, maxed himminafl
oh ok, thats a lot XD
my new boat barely fits in my boatyard =/
HOLY CARGO HAX, BATMAN!!!
@last heath neat trick
Step 1) build cart
Step 2) put cart into boat
Step 3) break said cart
Step 4) ...
Step 5) Profits
Oh that looks way too much fun. This needs to be tried! π
Hahahaha what?!?
Another hax
No map, very hard beginner home ready to go. (2x mats so much wood
) ((ignore the second pic of the fireplace, accidentally hit ss twice))
There's a little campsite down the hill behind my house, gonna spruce it up and make a garden around the terrace i flattened out
GPU: finally, after all that hard work, the user gets to see my newly generated frame
Post processing effects: im about to ruin this man's career
you can build a staircase to jump off of. the faster you fall, the deeper you dip to vacuum stuff up at the bottom
Sadly it's not that close to land I had it very close to land but I couldn't get the last arrow off before It got too far off when it started running away
No map is tons of fun!
It's certainly a different kind of play style than I'm used to, but I finally found a beach earlier to the western side of my start island and gathered some flint, hoe on me at all times making paths to POI i see. Had to start placing torches evreyonce in a while too to see my way in the dark, that was difficult the first time i was out until dark before i put the torches up 
No map is great. I started a chill no map run with portals turned off. Have you noticed where the sun arcs in reference to yggdrasil?
No, I don't think i have, not that i can recall anyways. I have my portals set to normal, no portals sounds tough π

World tree run east to west. East side touches horizon. West side goes skyward and ends. Where the sun arcs south of the world tree. We also know spawn is center n&s.
Sommetimes not perfectly centered but always seems to be rather approximate
Yeh i noticed Spawn has a compass earlier after i made my own right next to spawn lol
For sure. I didnt notice until i went no map. The tree is everything though
That's what i mean lol I finished making a compass and then noticed how it was similar to how the Spawn circle was, so i logged and checked my other worlds with maps on, Spawn circles to confirm
The mini map is another clue. When facing north our player arrow points up.
Edit: Are you using the build piece tech to maintain direction?
No, please enlighten me 
I am using a hoe to make paths everywhere i go though
i use the 26 degree wall piece. Pointing the elevated end north. On the ground its always a shadow reference as well
I see, I'll have to check that out
Its the boss tracking while in dungeons that im not fully dialed in on
Yeh, that seems tricky
oh yea, me and my freind did this in the swamp, we still had the karve but filled a cart with iron by accident and didnt want to leave it so I turned him into a trailer
Optimal cooking method
My recent project Burnfast Town. It is medieval, christian, themed location with over 40 different structures. Town is fully sustainable in rol play meaning, inside town you will find bakery, tavern, church, mayor's villa and much more
welcome to Mistlands dungeons
Crops growing, Iron smelting, village life is nice
When you find a boss vegvisir, even in a dungeon, and interact with it, your character will slowly turn in the direction of said boss (if not touching your mouse actively). But if you're in a dungeon your directions are mixed up, so all you need is to align some building piece (i usually go with adze) to the direction of the boss, thus even after leaving the dungeon the adze will always show you the real direction towards it.
Great tip
Thanks Ales. I'll give that a go
yea that's been working super well for me
I did basically that. But I set my compass outside the dungeon. Then when I come out with my piece, I aligned to the compass for reference. Haven't tried it beyond locating Elder
didn't see him, can i get an oof
Oof
Close!
2 draugr escaped and made a beeline for the neerest neck after i ran away
But why
bro what is this fuling village
Looks pretty average
bring Bonemass buff for maximum beef against the fulings!
this is quite fine π i dont see anyone but normal fulings chasing you
There's at least 1 - 1* maybe a 2* lol
oh now thats just great
oh i meant that no shamans or berserkers are there π
they are at the village im sure
quite possibly π
yeah so lovely
they are squishy after you destroy shield π
Boiling up something that'll go very well with some melted butter.
whats that?
well now im happy i upgraded demolisher
good thing im protected >_>
thats a very good thing
hungry bois, throw them some berries and make friends
how does such a village have that many fulings and no beserkers
Nawh, too far
edit: actually.................. I could
lol i just forgot that there are blue torches. looks sick!
what a fullfilling site to behold!
!
Weapon Display !
Every time i see him far away from the sis, i wish i could say 'hey bro, wth there's smb you know and she kinda needs help'
Actually, Hildir is in such a cool location I had to take an aerial shot ^^ Draug village, next to gobos, and she's in the back! Really cool π
Angry.
looks like an entertaining fight waiting to happen
66-67 days in and first raid - on world settings with raids set to less often or such
thats the blob and ooze raid right?
(they both have the same name only one is pre boney and one post iirc)
Yeah, no idea why.
you are indeed correct
Me and Hugh relaxing
always follow the smily constallation
Wait u died on day 115, aren't you playing hardcore? did you lose all skills and gear?
That's probably Smiffe leaving his mark on the game π
Many hours spent last weekend to build a bridge, worth it.
An armoury, all the weapons, shields, armour
Hardest combat difficulty not hardcore ^^
(I uses nocost too put back grass and add stone foundation and path early. Rest was built without it)
my boat is floating and not on water
Quick tip for all you lovely people putting up those nice screenshots.
If you are on pc and want to get rid of the HUD for a nice screenshot it is: ctrl + F3
thats the button huh
building a large island city hub and pretty soon i wont be able to ss it all even with all my graphics/render distance turned up :/ how do i capture the bird eye view as well as the dark alleys /shrug
More tip to get that perfect angle shot in the game. First turn on devcommands. Then hit F5 and type freefly
Or even better, set it up so you can do it with the pause key by entering these two commands: bind pause timescale 0 and bind pause freefly
Then whenever you hit pause, you can move the camera around freely while the game is paused. To turn it off, just type freefly again, or press Pause followed by Esc twice
You can use a mod called Render Distance, it lets you increase the view limit but also decreases your FPS
Or Render Limit, I don't rly remember the name
a fish washed into my house?
what?
Charge him rent
Turn it into coal
It's a DIY sushi delivery.
fishing in this weather is kinda terrifying
Imagine snagging a serpent and getting dragged into the water.
oof scary indeed
Ominous
No, thatβs a troll
The fog in this game is just as good as the light.
atleast the wall is now slightly stronger that its made out of stone
now for a iron gate i suppose
but i dont think they are gonna look good
@acoustic tide How to build a gap bridge. Delete the doors and the gap remains. Carts can safely pass over it while breaking pathing for mobs.
πΌ π
Do you have moat?
yes
Nice
this is a picture from the valheim web site pres section just wondering if its maid by AI or a real person . P.S. i like to colect more i have all from the main web site
i believe most if not all the art on the website is done by one person
@ember waspty for the info
love how these windows have turned out
Doesn't look ai generated to me
Its by a real person, i just dont remember who its by
If this was realistic then that guy wearing iron would be in a big trouble
probably real.i doubt this was recent lol
average elder fight
Here is base finished I would say. time to just wai t for ashlands now
Very obviously a wip. But just wanted to share my meadow island base.
cool nice place!
I think I have one of the most chill places for an Elder Shrine
Perfectly halved arena - can only use half of it well
Did anyone else turn this in to a chicken hutch
Got a 2* boar this morning and tamed it as well as died about 8 times in my first hardcore burial chambers. Well worth it though, got some tin coming and picked out a nice double copper vein next to a skeletower I've made into a makeshift mining outpost.
this is one big mountain
another frost cave for later
only took like 5 mountains to find the stone to tell me where moder is
and i found two with in a few minutes
When you have trouble fitting the mountain in the screenshot
Even with a widescreen monitor.
Yeah I found that out here, only recently joined because I'm up to date. Three years playing without any external information...
Did anyone else build surprises for other players
its ctrl f3 in case you forgot the combo
it has a roof
a few examples for inspiration @acoustic tide
That will not stop the rain tho π
Doesn't rain on the mountains silly
but yes that won't work
won't they have issues with shelter applying without a roof
Oh right, it doesent rain there π my memory sometimes...
Yeah it still needs a roof, decay is still a thing with snow but just a bit slower
its gota roof!
Very Sims vibes, in the best of ways
584 silva, finally next to my base
i may need to roof that one 4x4 meter cube on the corner
oh nuts
finally dragged his ass into a desecrated copper miine, now i can snipe him in peace
gotcha you pint size mut, i was clearly salty cuz i died once ( that explains the no skill drain), its boulder 1 shot me
the darn troll is so huge and large, it SUCKS stamina like a vaccumm trying to pull it by just 1 centimeters, it took me 20 harpoon attempts to finally drag his ass down
i was trying to haul all this cargo to staging area to finally sail it back home, needless to say it was super heavy so i had to dump it to run for my life
bronze armor slows me down, which i don't like, cuz it isn't that useful fighting clearly overpowered creature like this. i would like more speed so i can have better chance of runniing away instead of dying cuz i am too slow
if you mean the troll armor i would like you to know that each armor piece has difference of only 2 armor compared to bronze π
I prefer troll over bronze, the sneak is nice and no speed penalty is also good.
I prefer to be a bit more tanky, I'm not very good at roll dodging in burial chambers, but my parry game is usually spot on so a bit more armor is helpful to me
Yup they're weak to piercing damage
Their head is also their weak point.
I usually try to shoot them in the face with arrows lol
make that head a pincushion.
20 troll skins and 168 coins , very good troll loot, though a massive pain to fight
I was resting outside a burial chambers last night and a troll came and smashed my campfire and his big hands clipped through the burial chamber entrance (the one that is over the ground not in it) and smashed me too lol π
now for windows and more looking if its working or not
wut is this
the broken boats have lot of times (maybe always, i am not sure) chast in them π
Easy way to get a little fine wood before getting bronze axe
oh i am at Iron age
hehe
Troll tsunami it is then
He did
He was spamming the stones for so long but then got pummeled when the rock in between them broke
wut da hell?
you are on the edge of a swamp it seems π try to mine it
so i can mine iron outside of crypt? and yea i iwas on the edge
yep, you can find these with an item you get from killing bonemass, but crypts are much better source
got a bloody nose mining cuz it attracts 3 dragur, 2 ax and shield draugur with 1 having 1 star, one archer, and then 2 skellies. They prolly heard me mining.
i did emerge victorious but i lost its location :/ it still has some tiny vein of iron scraps left, but at least i found 9 turnip seeds while trying to refind it. I was gonna go home with the haul and realize the scrap iron is not letting me use portal.
They're pretty rare, but you can find them easily with the prize from beating the 3rd boss in the swamps. But by then you won't really need those.
Getting early iron lets you access stone buildings a bit sooner, so that's nice π With those weapons you should be able to handle a few Draugr, though (the starred one is a bit much, though)
Took me a lot of run and arrow to kill the starred draugr, cant parry it
They are tough
3 iron scrap, much profit
owo
Bro got a food cart goin
i just need to make eyescream again and mmore suasages and most likely wolf skewers but i just may replace the eyescream with onion soup
feels lonely π
My dad made a chess board! βοΈ One side is blue and purple, the other is green and brown. π
that is awesome
i can eat all of this if you don't mind
u can take all HAHA π
finally, everything needed from silver age maxed :3
No crystal battleaxe? I am disappointed... π
im not using axes, for me sword is the best weapon XD
That axe belongs in my bedroom, with all the other pink cute things π©·
I don't use it as a weapon either, I just use it as a prettier wood cutter π
i..... dont wanna collect another 120 silver XD
i spent too much on this already
Yeah, I feel that. I typically don't make the Silver sword because it's worse than the Blackmetal sword against everything but Yagluth. I hope spirit damage becomes more relevant in the Ashlands
I immediately thought of Pink Floyd when I read this. Just old guy stuff I guess
On to the Mistlands with my Crew we go!!!
woah what did i just stumble into
Draugur town looks like
Can make a good base if you take over the town hall, but they're swamp level enemies
yea bigger villages usually are draugr spawns from my recent newbiew experiences lol
now taking suggestions on additions to my new watery home
For a planned trap, I put roof pieces around the edge of my Troll pit and a walkway across the middle. Fired arrows at the roof so it would fall in
love when factions collide
Basic frame is done. I have to build its twin on the other side and then decorate.
This is the other side
biggest silver vein i've found
From small green giggly midgets i think
Been working on this world too long! wheres ashland haha!!!
A few short months away
100 onion soup ready to be eaten!
holy jesus, managed to drag abomination out to have my fire arrow do more tick damage
Something ain't right
Don't walk towards the light!
uum. it use to be mod issue or GPU driver issue π€
Console btw
It was an older screenshot maybe a month ago
Only happened this one time
I just think it's kinds funny
you havenβt unlocked that viking yet!
Irongate throws flashbang at your face
impressive
lvl 5 πΌ
Valheim is pretty
You've got a secret admirer
Screenshot from one of the Valheim animated trailers
my own island.... complete with waterpark features
eikthyr fight after we finished mistlands was something else
he's going to sacrifice himself... Noer you cahntt! there must be another way!
Please consider posting in #mods-screenshots , modded gameplay can confuse new players and they expect things that aren't in-game ^^
Please consider posting in β mods-screenshots , modded gameplay can confuse new players and they expect things that aren't in-game ^^
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After 650hrs of solo play, I had the urge to share some screenshots of my latest base. Usually building pretty isn't my biggest focus in the game but this time I tried putting some effort into it π (Parts of it are inspired by creators on here / on YT) Hope you like it!
Those are some gorgeous pics π good terraforming and cute kitchen!
and during a storm the waves donβt flood? π
No, luckily it doesnβt. I am not the biggest planner and just start building so I am lucky that it stays dry :p
I poured soil into the sea to expand the base, and it began to flood in a storm πΎ
ok... i like this π
gonna be a here for a long time
One of these is not like the others...
Yagluth is mad at me... at least, that's all I can infer from the shape of his altar
almost missed this, thats so cheesy
(Epic Loot mod, the cultists won)
Miniboss Stone Golem has a TON of health- they got all the lox and a lot of the fulings but ended up losing anyway
I made a bridge as soon as I joined a server earlier today
Subject's Brewery
Nice, I'd subject myself to some of your brews.
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clearly cause i dont see any core wood lol
New drink in stock
Yoink.
how can i pick up carrot that needs more room to grow and plant it elsewhere
you canΒ΄t
You can't replant, it will either wither and die or grow once you have taken out the ones crowding it.
i just realize that the tree stunts its growth, not because the seeds are close
Yeah get rid of that tree but try not to make it land on your crops it might destroy them.
i accidentally did just that...., where are my seeds ;-;
Poof gone, the whole dead parrot speech from monty python, they are ex-seeds.
So you'll need to find new ones, once you have carrots you can replant those to make seed carrots and get new seeds that way, to keep the planting going.
no, further down to the right of my screen is a row of turnip, about 12 of them
Ah good, not all is lost.
oh how i wish the wolves would attack the troll so i can sweep in and get some wolf stuff
they do fight each other, so it's just a matter of bringing them together and making sure they're closer to each other than they are to you (target priority is based purely on distance)
might not be a good time for the troll though, depending on how many wolves it is π
yea i know they do, but i wish they would spawn NOW, which they are not
cmon, do sth
or maybe cuz the cliff is too tall so the wolf cant spawn
@cold carbon , what was that? #valheim-chat message
Literally just came back to my house after a rowdy stormy sailing trip and found 4 puffers on my front lawn (and a few other fish too)
it is raining fish
FINALLY, almost died in the ocean by random ghost
barley owo
?
How'd you space them so well
farming runs in his blood
exactly
DO NOT DESTROY IT, this give one additional lvl of comfort
farming mods
maypole, as bexi said it gives you +1 comfort level, its a sesonal item that you can build but only in summer
My friend accidentally destroyed our maypole lool
I destroyed mine before realizing I couldn't rebuild it for months lol
@honest sedge My take on Yagluth's opinion π
That right side - back pillar is still under construction though.
Storage is fun. A bit foggy to see well, but it works π
How is it fun? Things literally just lie in place wo moving
Fun to build. Especially with floating labels like that so I can still access them without any issues.
Lol is that with a bunch of spaces before the word?
Nope. You can specify some behaviors with certain html-style tags. Specifically I used the size, color and voffset tags.
Oh i gotcha, I knew you could change size and color, i didn't know you could use offsets, that's cool
"IM BATMAN"
Ya know, I havent seen anything goin' with Dyrnwyn for Ashlands weapons. Just the plans for the enchanted weapons with those gems and the dual axes. But the fact that Dyrnwyn has a crafting recipe but it un craftable as of right now. Makes me wonder if Dyrnwyn is gonna be craftable once Ashlands drops.
Yeah id say its about Iron tier since, even if you can spawn it in. you cant upgrade it so its forever level 1. But its weird that it even has a recipe to be forged but its console command only. I was hoping it would be forgable once ashlands came out, but with the terrain changes i havent seen any Flametal ore deposits in the Walk a& Talks. But that could also be they're actively not showing flametal ore right now since it most likely spawn differently
Flametal has been shown in walk&talks, it just now has stuff covering it
Burnfast update
I spawned it in at level 4
but it's my "cheat" character, so it's ok. I haven't watched any of he walk & talks, but I've read the notes on their blog, and I'm excited for what's to come. Most likely going to still be on my current very hard playthrough i started about a week ago when it drops, so I'll be able to continue on straight from the mists.
Gorgeous, love the stake walls on the outside, and the armor stands as grave markers β€οΈ
Out hunting deer at sunrise
Thats insane man
@zealous patio got chased in his stream
maybe if they change the damage values, as of now these are way low for Ashlands tier
ahh, okay i mustve just jot seen it. thats good. Still hoping Dywnwyn gets craftable once it does drop
yeah, I think as of right now its an iron tier sword maybe low silver tier even if you spawn it in at levl 4
punishment
what kind of map that puts a tiny patch of Plains between black forest and swamp? no wonder i keep getting attacked by fulings
this is black forest....it shouldnt have a draugur
I love spearhunting stuff
@sour cave
I haven't used them much, I prefer the bow personally
You are very close to the swamp. You see mobs from surrounding biomes around the edges all the time. They chase mobs and fight each other. The noise from your mining probably attracted it to you, which is why it is as far in the Black Forest as it is.
Is this only a Xbox problem
Thanks for that
Was on with the clan last night, and all of the sudden I run into this. What the hell
even the trophy of this mf scares me
Odin. Your boss.
Really?
Yep.
that's tough, you're skipping the mountain biome?
pretty sure he needs to go through a plains biome to get to a mountain
I usually search for a different mountain at that point
i and other reccomended he look fora other mountain but i guess he didnt want to
order of progression is meadows, black forest, swamp, mountains, plains, mistlands, ashlands, deep north...
they meant geographically
no, i just happen to come accross plains while having to make my way to the swamp with Bonemass, sadly there is no ocean route between that swamp and my base, so i have to walk
your swamp is landlocked?
at that point i would 100% just look fora other swamp
there is bonemass there
Now this looks familiar
bonemass has 5 locations throughout the world so you could technicaly go for a different one, but its your call if you consider that worth your time π
did you only go to the swamp to fight him?
thats not that bad then idd say
oh wait rlly? ok i will look for those other 4
640 rusty cans of corn
house
He looks like he's getting a spa treatment π€£
Remember when I tamed wolves in scraps? Well..........
Not scary at all 
Best Primitive Wooden Cart Simulator 2024.
There are many towers in Valheim Mistlands.. this one is ours!!
This is the first time i think i ever saw something like this
Construction of the "Road of Pain" 3 years ago. Goes from the shore to base in the middle of island, idea at time was to have everything in one place, smelters, farm, kitchen, storage etc, so I needed some means to deliver ore from swamps and plains to smelters. It took forever to grind for stone and to build, and in the end I found out, that fully loaded cart cant climb those stairs (it honestly can barely move on perfectly smooth road), so I had to rebuild it to be more zig-zaggy
seen it a few times, quite rare tho
watch tower with over 1.2k arrows vs bonemass
How much skill did you gain?
22 to 52
That's one way to level 
How long did it take?
1 and a half hours
I've had double silver veins, but never triple. It'll be so damn satisfying to have it all collapse... π€€
It is going to tank your fps for sure but the explosion and heaps of silver will be so satisfying.
This is what it gave me. Fair enough π
Nice haul!
oh yeah, soo juicy.
Portal placement; 2000+ hrs as a single player on the same map.
Got my pixel-hand-drawn map expanded to 8 km approx
I'm very concerned to whoever wrote this in the dialog for one of the dreams
But this is your dream. I usually get those about my net being empty;))
Ok yeah, that one is just a little odd lol
Iβm sure this dream would be just as impactful if you removed the adjective describing the child.
Tbf a child of the wilderness wouldn't necessarily know it should be clothed like other people
what net
So the fact that the child is naked is concerning, and not the fact that he's been sleeping for centures.. somebody should've come regularly to dress him properly every say 50 years
I got a dream where it said.o remembered the walls ..mead and something about battle and cold blade amd death and waking up againππ
I took this as our inner child. We both wake at the touch. Perhaps we've been stuck in Valheim for a long time
That sounds like 2 of the different dreams lol
But that valkyrie.. i definitely remember some valkyrie bringing me here
Time is funny. How long was it since death and the valkyrie ride.
No idea, the only concept of time we have in game is sun up and sun down. Yes it tells us what day it is in valheim, but not how many days we've necessarily been dead, or how long has passed in normal time. I would just assume valheim doesn't follow the same laws that govern time in midgard.
That's about where my perception is. The dream captions are interesting. Some felt like clues?
We definitely have something more than just sun, animals breeding, veggies growing, torches running out of fuel, lots of stuff actually
It's the same things.
I don't know what concept of time you're talking about then
The concept that valheim isn't governed by the same laws of time as midgard.
Those torches could be burning for seconds or centuries.
What are these laws?
Oh, you're talking 'interstellar' kind of time relativity gotcha
More or less
His clothes decayed what do you want bro to do
I have even more questions then.. but ig we should stop here
I wouldn't have the answers anyways 
Is there anywhere other than in game to read all the dream captions
Excellent ty
The early beginnings of a long journey
quick remodel since some of the bees felt cramped π¬ glad to report they are all happy now
guys say hello to Gerald
hello Gerald π
hello to Gerald
Hi π, hows it going? For now. Minute the light goes out hell swipe at you
this is what happens when you donβt intend to go to any Valhalla from the very beginning
But now you're stuck on the island... also, damn, that's a ton of lights.
it's coming along nicely, lots more to do tho
10000 dverger lights and mmm no lag as you see, but 1 fire....π
farming simulator, started off with 200 carrot seeds
Good crop? Bro we are gonna feast
my pc is at min setting so some turnips at the edge of the screen cant render
a humble village restoration after finding a maypole
my biggest haul yet, going to enjoy this boat ride home π
i'm more impressed by the wraith trophy or the iron π such a rare trophy
oh, I had no idea it was rare haha, glad I haven't dumped it
lol, masterfully designed π
We are running the serpent blockade in this one π£οΈ
You can see one of the forge improvements on the roof since I ran out of space for it π€£
@chilly arch
Day 150, the elder defeated on very hard and my current skills
I` given up manual farming after 400 barley
Farewell!
Left the firmament!
lucky
Taking out the rubbish for the 3rd time today
not sorted π
