valheim-chat

[finite crown]

guess the island is too small to see that zoomed out, nvm

[granite grail]

Do these mountains have the chance to spawn in any seed?

[frozen void]

Your seed uses a small circle of the master map

It doesn't pick and choose islands

[granite grail]

Canon. Like in a book fandom, what the writer says is canon while any fanfics are not included in the canon. What the devs say is canon while community made stuff are not canon

[granite grail]

So.....technically my map could generate inside the circle of one of the peaks I'm gathering

[frozen void]

Yeah

[strange cradle]

My latest map has Hook mountain on it. And it's VERY steep. It's a Moder mountain and has only one egg place. But tons of frost caves.

[granite grail]

Neat. Another reason to explore lol

[dim python]

are the three unlabelled pointers to the 4th 5th and 6th tallest mountains?

[frozen void]

No idea

[finite crown]

make a ramp at the top and place a longship then hold on 🙂 nearly broke my game

[frozen void]

In short, your seed is a circular cookie cutter cutting a circle out of the master seed

[granite grail]

Rallz, that island is almost identical to one I have on my map 😂 its where my first base was

[static ruin]

no wonder my seed has no ashlands, it must have been cut out of the center
(this is sarcasm, very illegal here)

[merry pebble]

The bottom of the map will always be made into ashlands 😄
But ever since ashlands update it will no longer match the land shapes from the master map

[nocturne wolf]

the master map is only for terrain height, nothing else. the world seed puts an offset on the noise instead of changing how it's generated

[finite crown]

it's awesome.. ill tag you with some pictures

when the damn fog goes away

[frozen jewel]

@frozen voidthat map is a mod? And wath is the name of the mod?

[frozen void]

No

[nocturne wolf]

It's not a mod, you can see on the edges it's screenshots of multiple world maps put together

[static ruin]

think of it as a sourcemap for topology of your world

[frozen void]

Someone just patched together screenshots of the map, either from ingame or the map viewer website

[frozen jewel]

ok ty

[dim python]

@nocturne wolf @frozen void how do i tell where my map is in the master map?

[nocturne wolf]

look for similar island shapes

[frozen void]

Yeah

They may look slightly different cause of biomes or rivers, etc

[finite crown]

@granite grail https://medal.tv/games/valheim/clips/mJH3GXiJt7nMsUpSm?invite=cr-MSxSVzgsMzkzNDI3NDQ0&v=243
it's a work in progress. also the reason the recording is slightly lagging is because my game did not enjoy when i tried to change lodbias

[granite grail]

DANG those builds are insanely impressive :OO they look amazing. But yeah the elevation on mine is significantly lower lol it doesn't look anything like your elevations 😂 the canal is crazy work. I don't have patience to do all that work XD

[finite crown]

thx, and yes landscaping in this game pisses me off 😄

[silk token]

thats kind of wild if presumably someone played this game SO MUCH they could recognize chunks of land and just know where they are in master map. what all is randomized after the area is chosen? terrain height? rivers? poi’s? trees? berries? is the answer way more complicated?

[hexed latch]

Yoo any tips to kill a troll? As a begginer

[static ruin]

pretty much as blob said, theres a noise filter added including rivers and shifts in biome coverage

some landscapes, like huge peaks, are just very distinct and after enough time playing you start recognizing some repeat stuff

[static ruin]

theyre weak to being poked really hard

(piercing damage) theyre fairly slow and bows do good damage against them

[hexed latch]

Wdym when a one chase me i cant even run from him 😭

[silk token]

dodge roll and spear

[spark plover]

Try either dodging or parrying if you got the bronze buckler

[static ruin]

you can sprint in small bursts and make a large amount of ground, and they have to path around some trees and rocks at times

[hexed latch]

How about finewood bow with flinthead arrow will it work?

[strange cradle]

Trolls can be killed easily with lvl 1 crude bow and wood arrows.

You need about 20 wood arrows.

Probably less.

[hexed latch]

I killed 3 bears with that but im scared od trolls are they harder or easier than a bear

[strange cradle]

When I kill Eikthyr I usually already have troll armor.

Trolls hit harder.

[silk token]

yes if you like kiting and running around, its not a bad idea learning to dodge roll things now so you dont spend your life running and bow only

there are going to be mobs who resist pierce

[sleek sky]

but there isnt going to be pierce that resists mobs

[granite grail]

Now I feel kinda silly I just logged onto my map and it doesn't look at all simlair apart from the river in the center idk why I thought it was that close 😂 🫣

[static ruin]

personally i believe at lower levels trolls are actually easier, but thats exclusively when both are very deadly to you

[silk token]

if youre using arrows WAY easier than bear, bears resist pierce trolls are vulnerable

[hexed latch]

I killed a bear with a bow 😭

[sleek sky]

i find bears easier to parry, and trolls easier to dodge

[strange cradle]

Don't. Bone shield and flint axe work well on bears.

[silk token]

i was gonna warn you to learn melee because of bears, but i guess youve already felt that pain and how long it took. if youre down to play like that against other things throughout your game go for it

[finite crown]

@granite grail i mean.. it's a river but nowhere close to the shape or size of my island 😄

[hexed latch]

Bte guys is it true going to swamp for the first time is 100% deadly?

[strange cradle]

No.

Every biome is a step up in difficulty. You just need to be prepared.

Lvl 3 troll armor, lvl 2 bone shield, lvl 3 bronze axe is good enough for all mobs in the swamps.

[silk token]

haha, if you havent prepared and know nothing its bad. but dont google and discord too much and spoil it, that goes for the whole game

[hexed latch]

Troll armor is bwtter than bronze?

[static ruin]

the swamp is my least favorite biome in the entire game to deal with (in a positive way mostly)

[strange cradle]

More important: Be always rested, don't go out at night, and ALWAYS have the best food you can make.

Troll armor has slightly less armor then bronze. I skip it, because bronze is a LOT of work to acquire.

[sleek sky]

bear armor my goat

[static ruin]

troll armor is better on movement as well

[silk token]

there’s no gotcha that kills you 100% its just a difficulty spike but there are ways to survive easily, dying is part of your first playthrough just have fun

[strange cradle]

And NEVER EVER land in a swamp with a boat.

[granite grail]

For me the Plains will forever feel much safer than the Mountains 🤣

[strange cradle]

Unless you're hopelessly overgeared.

[frozen void]

How has no one mentioned ||poison resistance?||

[strange cradle]

Mountains is easy peasy.

[static ruin]

for the same reason you spoilered it

[sleek sky]

mountains is a stamina check more than a mob check

[silk token]

not much of a spoiler to say bring the potion

[strange cradle]

Yeah. I mean at least on default difficulty.

[static ruin]

ill choose how i speak thanks

[granite grail]

If I have to run through mountans or plains to get somehwere I'm picking Plains lol

[strange cradle]

Oh you just gonna LOOOOOVE Mistlands. 😄

[finite crown]

it's like telling people the be careful of the THING that happends to everyone when entering plains for the first time 🤣

[silk token]

well id say bring a…. pierce resist mead, not anything about the thing

haha, cuz pierce gives away anything, or other damage types for that matter

[static ruin]

if you wanna say those things, go for it

i choose not to

[granite grail]

I've beaten Fader bro XD

[dim python]

are early axe heads placed randomly on each seed, or are they consistent with eachother and the master map?

[granite grail]

Root harnesk. That thing has never been a threat 😉

[nocturne wolf]

the master map is only for terrain height. I think even multiple worlds with the same seed will have axe heads in different places because they're chest loot

I haven't tested that though

[dim python]

and for that matter

[finite crown]

I sure as shit didn't use that the first time i went there 🦟

[dim python]

#screenshots message is that the same claw shaped land mass?

the thumb of the claw is at about the same position in both screenshots

[hexed latch]

How to gwt poison resostance potion

[dim python]

@merry pebble thank you!!

[static ruin]

gotta be able to brew which takes being in or getting into the bronze age

[paper marsh]

I like to sail up next to a swamp, hop out the boat to gather a few things, then hop back in and sail off

[silk token]

make it in your potion kettle, then ferment in the fermenter

you should have the recipe unlocked

[static ruin]

as long as you dont hang around too close to the boat for too long, enemies wont destroy it while youre gone

[ivory wind]

has anyone tested which sword is better for yagluth, silver or blackmetal, both maxed

[frozen void]

Silver is better

Frostner is tied with blackmetal sword iirc

[tepid prawn]

Silver is BIS for Yagluth, Frostner is worse because of how spirit damage works

Blackmetal sword is a great weapon, but not for Yagluth

ah Frostner and BM sword might be tied that is possible, I don't know the exact numbers for that

[frozen void]

Theyre all 3 good, silver is just best

[tepid prawn]

imho I would not call the Silver Sword good, its god tier in this case, call it powerful or something it deletes him maxxed out haha

Also IMHO Silver Sword is the best looking sword in the game

[frozen void]

Level 4 frostner does 113 dmg per hit
Level 4 blackmetal sword does 113 dmg per hit
Level 4 silver sword does 138 dmg per hit

[tepid prawn]

22% increased damage!

[frozen void]

Yeah, the others are still good, but its definitely better.

Better than porc or atgeir for example

[silk token]

meanwhile battleyacks users

[dim python]

does frostner slow yagluth?

[nocturne wolf]

it does but not enough to be useful. frost damage slows everything but it's more effective when taking a higher percentage of their health

[tacit crystal]

IIRC not notably.

[dim python]

if shooting yagluth, what are the 2 or 3 best arrow types?

[tacit crystal]

Frost arrows.

Silver is okay too.

[nocturne wolf]

frost arrows will be best but melee will be so much better, even with elemental arrows the base damage on the bow means you're mostly dealing pierce

use the time you're standing back to regen stamina instead of spending it on arrows

[dim python]

what if... i sometimes pop stamina potions and shoot him in his head

not every time...

[dim python]

are needle arrows inefficient for this purpose?

[static ruin]

yes

[shrewd pivot]

Hello I’m on Xbox is there any public servers I could join?

[cold bough]

Btw is there any info about realease date of deep north update? Im to lazy to search

[static ruin]

no updates, still nebulous

[steel mica]

The update remains in its "When its ready" state

[cold bough]

okay it is that what I suspected, horse inside of studio is more important than game

[static ruin]

dont say it to me, i dont make it

[cold bough]

ye i know

i dont judge you i just telling truth about state of game

[static ruin]

it was a long time waiting for mistlands, then it wasnt a long time for any updates after that, so im kinda just vibing about it

[cold bough]

it is kinda sad bcs valheim had such a good start and creators just ignored that succes

[cold bough]

If it wont be very big update i would be disappointed

I also hope for ocean update before 2028/2029/my funeral

[static ruin]

the ocean update that used to be listed in the now-defunct faq channel?

[cold bough]

Nah i dont even know what was on this channel, i just have in the back of my head update of ocean. They can put there so much content

[static ruin]

It was in a roadmap they've since made a departure from.

Generally agree, more ocean content would be very nice. I don't have high hopes it's actually happening though.

[dim python]

#screenshots message may i ask?

[viral prairie]

What’s the spawn code for serving trays?

[plucky hinge]

If I leave through a portal while an attack is underway, will the attack keep going?

Apparently the answer is yes.

[frozen void]

Itll pause

[tepid prawn]

raid is 2 mins, ticks down only when someone is in the raid area, even it you see the area on minimap but too far away the timer still pauses (also 46mins later another raid can spawn which will end yours in that location)

[plucky hinge]

Well. My whole new base is rubble.

[regal cave]

feaster

[plucky hinge]

OMG. Ok. So the trolls were bad news, right? But a bear and a swamp raid was no problem.

[silk token]

lol i just got "a smell from the swamp" and im sitting at the entrance of my home holding my battleaxe like "...... hello?....... where IS everyone?" and i hear this faint "rRrrrowwwwr" and this no-star bear was just holding the line against everyone, was about 1/3 dead, i let him live because he's such a boss. first bear i saw i didn't kill. might even name him.

[frozen void]

Feed him

[plucky hinge]

Ok. I managed to get my base set up with some fencing. I doubt it will hold, but it's a start.

[fossil delta]

I think its a solid idea to always focus on defending your home. Especially for your first play through.

[blissful zinc]

Hey all, longtime player but new to the discord. Been working on a fun website I've called Longhouse Listings. I've posted more info in the self-promotion channel if you're interested in more. thanks

[static ruin]

big fan of the idea, i hope youre not put off that im initially a little skeptical though, with scams being so prevalent

[blissful zinc]

definitely not lol what makes you skeptical at first?

no need to create an account if you feel that way also.

as this is just an alpha, proof of concept more or less, the seeded listings are bad atm lol. I have a few more things I want to tighten up then I am going to go through all my previous worlds an build some real listings

[light moat]

That is extremely funny, was way better than what I was expecting
Well done!

[blissful zinc]

thank you! I'm a software dev and have done some personal mods for the game before but wanted to just make something silly

[light moat]

That UI is 🤌
If I could give any input, I’d say add a filter for modded/vanilla. if there isn’t one already.

[blissful zinc]

omg you don't know how that made me feel. the basic apps is so simple took me no time. The ui I have been working on forever! ty ty

[static ruin]

mostly just that a particularly intrepid scammer could do something like this but with a malicious link, tldr me being arguably too cautious

[blissful zinc]

no offense taken and I get the skepticism. I am not collecting any data or anything like that. not sure what I can say to assure you of that but this is just a for fun site for me.

[blissful zinc]

when you say modded/vanilla you mean search listings that were made in modded servers vs vanilla? Love it

[static ruin]

no worries ill just give it a while then if its still up ill poke my head in

[light moat]

Yep, exactly that!

[blissful zinc]

check out the mortgage calculator, you can do that without signing in. thank you for all the feedback!

[blissful zinc]

that has been added and will ready for my next deployment

love the idea

[rancid pebble]

Greydwarves, the eternally damned souls of murderers and outlaws, - or just Troll-magic constructs to guard their lands.

Whoop, did not mean to reply to that. - Discord be like that sometimes

[agile star]

Anyone has a rough idea when the 1.0 release is coming?

[echo plaza]

Nope, when done

[rancid pebble]

... Would be neat if we could make decorative Tin Vikings.

[opal prairie]

Something I like to do is building near some big stones, chop down wood and push it against the stones to make a barrier that will serve for base defense till I can get the pickaxe and dig a moat.

To cross the moat I either jump or build a "cattle bridge", basically build a bridge with a door in between and when you are done with the bridge, remove the door, so there is a small gap, it breaks the monsters pathing and nothing can get to your base.
You can still build a roof over it, so it doesn't get water damage, you'll just have overlapping roof pieces at a certain point.

I then place "core wood candles" around the base so nothing can spawn in and I have some lighting around the base and surroundings.
Corewood candle: Place down a standing torch, add a 2m pole slightly behind it, then grab a 2m corewood pole and with free placing aim at the 2m pole and slide it down till only the top of the standing torch is visible and place the corewood pole, then remove the 2m normal pole.
This way the torch will act as spawn proofing and mobs will not attack the torch.
You can also hide torches in corewood poles and they won't break so you can have spawn proofing around a small building without the need for a workbench or other spawn proofing methods that won't fit the easthetic.
This isn't my idea but it does work.

[solar isle]

I just did my first proper build in Valheim, in the plains last night, and I gotta say, I'm so proud of it built a moat, a two story house, and lots of space for crops, a furnace area, ect ect, Something I always struggled as a solo player playing valheim was the grind, putting materials to 2x literally solved this 😄

[opal prairie]

For certain things I would really like the 2* material drop but for other things I think it would diminish the game too much.
Like for things you really need a lot of and take time like iron, wood and stone, putting those on 2 would be nice.
Though for black cores, boss summoning items, I wouldn't like getting 2 of those items, because you have to do that once and it leads to exploring a biome or multiples of the same biome.
So I'd like it if we could mix and match what we would like two of and what not.

[solar isle]

Yeah I totally agree, I wish there was JUST a resource setting, like 2x Wood, stone, Metal, ect ect, it always feels a bit cheap getting 2 surtling cores out of one, but eh, I live with it, because Solo play, the grind is real.

[high coral]

totally the way that devs intended it to be played

[shadow finch]

I am totally opposite, I have so many resources yet lack the creativity and a bit lazy to build stuff

I been using the same base since the meadows and just expanding it to fit the new stuff (it's just a big square with wood)

[high coral]

longboat is so fast and it finally has some storage in it

a bit harder to maneuver throug the canals

found out that going backwards gives the boat lot more maneuverability

[shadow finch]

I wish the paddling speed was faster, it's the same as Karve's basically

[high coral]

i'm quite amazed that one man can manage to move such a beast but i can take it

[shadow finch]

bro just wait for the drakkar

Abomination of a ship

[high coral]

was definitely intended to be manned with men with oars

[high coral]

i'd consider it only if it had trucload more of storage space but otherwise seems like an overkill

my base is inland and accessible through a canal only

[shadow finch]

You need it for Ashlands so it's a pain to ride it

Especially with manevouring all the damn spires

No intention other than making your sea experience even more miserable than it already way

[high coral]

what do i need it for? hope it's not a major spoiler

[shadow finch]

You know how you get swamp key to unlock crypts?

from defeating the elder

It's something similar to that

That's all I can say without spoiling it for you

[high coral]

don't see how is that related to drakkar

sailing along the shore and spotted 3 deers grazing, hard to pass that opportunity

would like to make some nice proper shore base at some pont

[high coral]

any suggestions on defenses against drakes?

[lunar sapphire]

I can think of Mistlands-level content that could help but not sure if you're at that point

[static ruin]

i believe krom is still pretty freshly in the mountains?

they do go down pretty quick to decent bow skill

[final bloom]

A bow and arrows or a crossbow. You won’t have anything else until late game

[merry pebble]

If you have crossbows then you can have ||balistas|| 🙂

[opal prairie]

I would have thought you would lead with punch em.

[merry pebble]

You have only two fists 😄 sometime thats not enough for base defense

[high coral]

i was thinking of a passive defense

[static ruin]

Then I think Subject's response is pretty much it, to put it succinctly.

[high coral]

ok then

[opal prairie]

Dig a hole big enough to put your base in, floor it over or roof it, make a trench out, it will keep your base safe and anything that is in the hole should be relatively save from drakes.

[static ruin]

If something else comes to mind I'll yap about it, but largely when they're a nuisance I just try to put cover between us and ignore them lol.

[opal prairie]

I build bases in meadows near mountains and go from there, no troubles with drakes that way and a just bit more running.

[dark coyote]

I've never built a mountain base but supposedly it has the least raids

[static ruin]

I like building up there but it does have its hassles. Including the terrain itself, if you like to build wide like I do.

[opal prairie]

Core poles and beam connected to the mountain can make for a pretty wide build, but I don't like to build in the mountains as well.

[high coral]

this was mostly theoretical to know what to do if i increase size of raids

i can handle it with bow on normal but it coudl be an issue with more enemies

[static ruin]

tbh even with increased rates i dont feel like i saw drakes more than once, but that is entirely anecdotal

[high coral]

had 3 raids so far with them

[static ruin]

fair enough

i know they felt more frequent for me before raids got expanded a little

[opal prairie]

Against drakes it is, for all the rest, tame some wolves and have a wolf army or dig some moats.

[opal prairie]

If you progress past the mountains and further on, drake raids will lessen.
Also if you make sure you are not within 40 meters of at least 3 base structures (https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Player_base) no raids except for the wolf raid will happen.

[solar isle]

I think this evenings Project for me will be expanding my Plains base, I made a really nice house to live in, now I need to attempt a dock, I always struggle with Water building, ships are so much better to use with the Passive Powers Mod, literally being able to swap powers at any time, and just have Modor's Passive active, which no spoilers but I'm sure you can guess what it is, It's made the Ocean infinately more fun for me to traverse.

[opal prairie]

In one of my playthroughs, there was a "rule" only sail with the winds and see where it takes you, sometimes it was a pain to follow.
Especially if you were almost home with a load of metal and then the wind decides to turn, so that was either break the rule or make landfall and cary the metal the rest of the way, or go exploring till the wind shifts again.

[paper marsh]

Sounds like it would be easier to sail with the wind until you find a nice spot near metals to make a base

[opal prairie]

Oftentimes that was what I did. Though I had a main plains base and sometimes metal needed to get there.

[solar isle]

My plains base is directly opposite a swamp, next to a black forest, and has mountains kinda near, so Even though I have a mod that lets you teleport metals once certain progression points are met, I don't really need to use it, I have all metals reletively close.

I've been watching Jakk's Hardcore Valheim playthrough, man, Playing with no Portals, AND No map is kinda crazy, like, I would legit get lost with nomap

[regal cave]

Nomap is easier than u think but super fun

[paper marsh]

Nomap was more fun than I thought but for me it was a lot easier to get lost than I had expected. That was also paired with no-portals though

[hexed latch]

Guys is troll armor better than bronze for swamp?

[tacit crystal]

Preference. Although there is no huge difference in armor value and troll armor doesn't slow your movement.

[hexed latch]

And troll one is much easier

[tacit crystal]

There is bear armor too which has armor value in middle of those two and if you don't use full set you won't get the weaknesses from the set bonus.

[hexed latch]

Is there something a bear cape?

[paper marsh]

I wish. Would be warm and cozy

[tacit crystal]

Wear bear paintings, loincloth and troll hood and embrace Skeletor cosplay.

[hexed latch]

I killed 3 trolls but im atruggijg to find more

[tacit crystal]

Bears are more common.

[thin elbow]

They appear when you don’t want them there

[opal prairie]

They also stay away when you do want them there.

[hexed latch]

I just found some tyle of haldor guy

He sales things

[opal prairie]

Congratulations you have found one of the three vendors.
Return after each boss you kill and see what he sells.

[opal prairie]

I'll be the judge of that.

[hexed latch]

Is the thing who gives +150 capacity worthM

[foggy glacier]

Meginjord should be your first purchase.

[opal prairie]

For me it certainly is and I think for a lot of people but that also depends on your play style.

Once you start mining metals that extra 150 carry capacity can come in really handy in hauling 10+ extra ores.

[mint moth]

Ya. Then you buy a back up one.

[analog hearth]

ores are so heavy 😭

[high coral]

did anyone beat the game with just fists without any excessive cheese?

[paper marsh]

Think many people have yea

Though most may have been pre-ashlands. Not sure if people have done it after Ashlands update

[tacit crystal]

Maulclawing through the game.

[dim python]

i'm guessing there isnt enough visual information to answer this question? #screenshots message

also.

i'm having trouble seeing valheim seeds

[silk token]

if im looking at the correct bulges, the little island southwest of the mountain bulge is inconsistent. but explore a little more if you really want to know

[high coral]

#screenshots message how did he get cart on the ship?

[merry pebble]

Sent a reply pic to screenshots 😄

[silk token]

i do it by building a little stairs and platform above the boat, lining it up carefully, and deconstructing as fast as i can lol. it takes me a couple tries sometimes without it falling off the boat. also sometimes when it loads in the cart is off the boat. its not entirely reliable.

[high coral]

thanks, might try it someday

karve is more maneuverable compared to longboat

[merry pebble]

Might not be with the cart on it honestly xD
When full it affects the ships manuverability severly.

[high coral]

oof

[regal cave]

Carts on boats sounds worse than boars on boats

[analog hearth]

does that mean I can't just uh
drag my cart up a stair and then let myself with the cart fall down, onto the boat?
Like what will happen then? The cart just detaches from me and sinks under the boat?

[foggy glacier]

You can do that too. The cart will likely hang up on your platform though.

they often get caught on the gunwale of the boat when you try to haul them aboard.

[analog hearth]

pain

[frozen void]

Lox on boat tho?

[foggy glacier]

exactly. easier to build a platform over the boat, angle it directly in front of the mast then push the cart off or destroy the platform quickly.

[foggy glacier]

Why would anyone put a lox on a boat?

[frozen void]

To bring it home from different continents?

[analog hearth]

I have experienced this first hand in the last run with my friends, there were 3 expeditions to bring 2 loxes home
In the first trip the lox somehow was damaging the boat all the way, and as soon as we reached the shore, the ship was nearly smashed to pieces lol
The second trip was sadly a disaster, but it was the game's fault I would say. It was smooth sailing, the lox was calm and still. However, for some reasons, the lox position started to desync from the boat, even though client side on the rider, the lox stayed perfectly still in the middle of the boat. And then the game decided the lox was no longer on the boat, then suddenly they were floating on the ocean.
Nothing too bad happened in the third trip, thank Odin.

Boat trips aside, riding loxes through enemy territories is not fun at all lol, especially swamp. It was stressful from beginning to end, and I wasn't even the rider.

That being said, it was fun. Messy but fun
Our rider had a memorable gaming experience for life

[dim python]

thank you.

[cyan rock]

whats the best first thing to make out of iron?

[frozen void]

Nails

[dim python]

then stonecutter

[cyan rock]

I am looking forward to create smth that will help me in swamps to farm easier, cuz im having hard time there...

[dim python]

iron sword for abominations, iron mace for everything else

[regal cave]

Lox is boat tho?

[frozen void]

Limited distance boat

[cyan rock]

alr so mace

[dim python]

but nails and stonecutter are very high priority

[regal cave]

Hmmm..

[frozen void]

Sword or axe and mace. If youre good at parrying, make buckler, if yourd not that good make banded shield

[nocturne wolf]

make banded shield either way because it looks better

[frozen void]

So good they made it twice

[solar isle]

I used bucklers up until Black Iron when seemingly bucklers were phased out

Parrying in Valheim is so clean

I'm currently in Plains, looking forward to getting into Mistlands, I hear the weapons really ramp up.

[bright kiln]

Yeah and you get your buckler back :)

[regal cave]

Im at work wondering if its fun and worth it to make camping stops with a lox or just take the boat

[bright kiln]

Both??

[frozen void]

Their stamina regens very slowly iirc

[regal cave]

Google said 16 m i remember eternity

[solar isle]

I dunno If I will go back to Bucklers, I might, but I really like the safety of the shield, and you can still parry with it, though tbh, I am REALLY enjoying the Black Metal Atgeir too, first polearm I've used

[frozen void]

Seems about right

[analog hearth]

what is 16 m about

[bright kiln]

Thats fair I lile the bucklers speed :)

[frozen void]

240 points. 4 seconds per point. 240*4/60=16 minutes

[bright kiln]

I wish they would fill the weapon and shield gaps :(

[analog hearth]

when beautiful viking (should I refer to them as something else?) said to make camping stops for lox, was that about loxes on land or on water?
I am genuinely confused since the topic was concerning boats

[frozen void]

They said camping stops with lox or use a boat

[analog hearth]

they did....
And my question was more like, is this on the same island? The choices of going from point A to point B within the same landmass, not separated by ocean, would either be riding a lox with pit stops, or going around on a boat along the coast?

since you said loxes were limited distance boat, and then the topic of regenerating their stamina came up, I had the assumption that the plan was to swim on a lox while trying to regen its stamina in between??
That sounds absolutely absurd but I know too little of the game to actually tell

[round cypress]

Ok, I want to know if there is any information from the developers about the update

[frozen void]

Same as always, when its ready

[bright kiln]

Valheim dev team pweeeaaassee give us more info and release estimate time fwame... I cant take the suspence!!! DX

BTW my whole year is dependant on if valheim 1.0 is released or delayed to 2027

[lone rampart]

Patience, young Jedi

[frozen void]

https://tenor.com/view/my-first-girlfriend-turned-into-the-moon-thats-rough-that-rough-buddy-avatar-avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-5710468

[lone rampart]

Release it on New Year’s Eve.

[nocturne wolf]

bucklers have the same -5% as shields

[bright kiln]

I knowwww :( I just like to think im faster

[regal cave]

You can call me beautiful, viking, beautiful viking, Eric clapcheeks, or jake, Im not really picky. I was wondering if it would be fun to ride a lox across water, and plan it out so I dont get stranded mid ocean with a stamina less lox. Ud have to feed them on land.

[dim python]

hey jake do you object to being called lefranz

[regal cave]

Quite the opposite

[dim python]

okay cool just checking

i think if i call you LeFranz people will know who i mean easier than if i call you jake

[analog hearth]

what is the plan exactly? I'm still confused on that

[bright kiln]

Clapcheeks it is :)

[regal cave]

Fill your inventory with metal. Hop on a lox. Ride it across the ocean. Uh oh my lox is running out of stamina. Find land. Land. Feed lox. Continue journey

[regal cave]

Depends on the discord but yea

[analog hearth]

When your lox is running out of stamina, how do you know you and your lox would be able to get back to land?

[regal cave]

Theres a stamina bar for the lox just like there is for you when you ride it

[snow aurora]

the black metal sword is worse than the silver one lol

[regal cave]

Also planning

[analog hearth]

so like make sure your routes take into account lox's stamina?

[dim python]

fulings are as i hear immune to spirit damage so it has situational usefulness

[regal cave]

Yeah it was just an idea I have never tried it. But i do like stuff that maybe takes longer but is funner

[frozen void]

Oh i had no idea

[analog hearth]

well I suppose
I just feel like there might not be routes across ocean narrow enough to swim a lox over... Or maybe I am traumatized over the one time I saw my rider friend and her lox stranded in the middle of ocean...

[frozen void]

I just learned something new about you just now

[lone rampart]

I sense sarcasm 😹

[frozen void]

Nooooooooooooo(me falling into the sar-chasm)

[analog hearth]

nice one

[sharp bluff]

a lot of stuff is immune to spirit
like basically all of mistlands
and the bm sword is used for that too

[regal cave]

Killing bonemass with fishing rod =/= funner if anyone was wondering

[dim python]

that's beautiful, viking.

that you tried

[snow aurora]

It just took forever to clear a village with the sword. It's so much quicker with the silver knife/ sword. That extra 2 stamina it takes more than the silver sword is significant when spamming the heavy attack

[silk token]

i guess it depends on can a silver sword 2-shot a goblin or not like a blackmetal sword can. if they’re dying to 2 swings either way lower stamina would be better i guess

[chrome badge]

Not to mention, stamina issues have multiple ways to become a non-issue.

Tasty mead, trinkets, set bonuses, etc.

[silk token]

suppose it only matters on brutes, one less swing or 2 less stamina per swing, probably doesnt make any big game changing difference

[silk token]

PARRYING

[chrome badge]

Parrying, forsaken powers, high skills

The list is long for mitigating stamina problems. 😛

[silk token]

parry parry parry “you guys dance while my stam regens a bit”

i cant think of a weapon that isnt 1 hit stagger 2nd hit dead for goblins

well. 2 handed hammers i guess are like 7 hits.

[chrome badge]

Yeah, wishbone 2.0 needs a buff.

[silk token]

ehhhhhh it does plenty damage for being no brain smash everything around me, but it can have some mediocre primary attacks

[chrome badge]

Yeah, just comparing it to other weapons that also do that, it falls quite short.

[silk token]

it should though, or give it smaller aoe or something idk

[snow aurora]

makes a big difference when youre cancelling attack animation lol

wonder what would happen if I use the berserkir mead along with vile set in battle

[silk token]

wym canceling attack animations? glitch swinging?

[regal cave]

The hidden jutsu of the heim

[regal cave]

You dont want to know the forbidden fruit

[late dirge]

Indeed brother

[plucky rock]

marty

[mild mason]

Lizard

[silk token]

nah i know about it, it's so stupid it doesn't tempt me

[dim python]

is it um.

switching weapons?

[mild mason]

do you guys think 506 Onions is enough for a challenge run where I cannot eat red-health food?

or should I plant more

[regal cave]

Is it gonna take u 506 onions to get 506 bread

[mild mason]

yeah

onion soup great second food idk

[regal cave]

Then u might need to plant a few more

[mild mason]

shoot you're probably right X_X

[dim python]

live on feasts

closest you're gonna get to having enough health

[mild mason]

True!!! I need to utilize feasts in this playthrough 🥲

[tranquil sorrel]

Hi. Haven't played in years and recently started a new world. Need to work on storage. Besides the obvious Wood, Stone, Food signs/storage. What's your go to list for storage and how many chests?

[pastel lynx]

Wait, does anyone know why the grausten buildpieces aren't turning blue when connected to flametal pillar? Seems like a bug/oversight no?

[static ruin]

i dont think i ever have a set idea of how many chests i want, i tend to have a warehouse for overflow and bulk items i dont necessarily have a ton of uses for (i am a notorious hoarder) then chests that turn to barrels for within the crafting areas, segregated in a way such as "this is the raw ore barrel"

i generally dont get rid of anything other than maybe bone fragments

[chrome badge]

I would just leave room for expansion and expand as you go, trying to nail down exactly what you'll need is tricky, especially because everyone plays differently, and the game isn't finished yet.

[tranquil sorrel]

Same. I dont want to lose anything and I've just remembered how overwhelming it can get from the start. Cheers for the heads up. I'll make a few sheds and for now and see how my horde grows

[tranquil sorrel]

Cheers, yea guess I'll try and keep what I think as valuables at my main home and crafting items at different outposts

Don't know why, just assumed there was a generic list for storage items everyone just has and uses. The grind begins

[chrome badge]

I'm sure there's a list out there, or one that someone would write out for you if you really want it!

[static ruin]

nothing concrete, though i guess early on i do prioritize certain things first

like wood, i spend like the first five hours of a new world just living out my lumberjack fantasies

then i do it again when its mountain time to make my PatentedLogCabin

[tranquil sorrel]

Nah bother, cheers for the help. Sure I can find something online

[chrome badge]

Anytime 🫡

[tranquil sorrel]

Yea. I can't wait to finally get to craft stone. Last time I played wasn't long but now I've gotta make up for some lost time. One day I will have my castle 🏰

[sleek sky]

you need a

[steel forge]

Personal preference plays a huge role for storage. What I think makes sense might not make sense for you. At the end of the day what makes it easier for you to access stuff and remember where it is.

[dim python]

sailor's bounty especially. not like you're gonna be able to do anything else with that serpent meat 🐍

[bright kiln]

[static ruin]

why isnt frostner-1 called frostnel

[bright kiln]

XD

[sleek sky]

serpents bounty the goat

[bright kiln]

Drfr

[snow aurora]

It's insane how viable the fenris set is in mistlands despite the low armor it has

[static ruin]

people often underestimate mobility in valheim

[opal prairie]

I love me some Fenris set to just give into the zoomies when they hit.

[dim python]

mistwalker is great because it makes foes less mobile

[snow aurora]

Explored an entire mistlands island, killed all sorts of creatures there with fenris set, a level 1 black metal shield, draugr fang and silver knife lol

[fossil delta]

Run and Jump are the two most important skills in the game for surviving, as far as I am concerned. Then it comes to blocking and weapon skills.

[opal prairie]

Dodge roll!

[dim python]

Farming. 😤

[fossil delta]

Heh, I've been playing since well before there was a farming skill.

[paper marsh]

ikr? It surprises me how popular mace and sword is

[light moat]

Some of my favorite weapon types 👀

[fossil delta]

The types I like best are the mace, axe and sword. Plus bow.

[sleek sky]

Knives my goat

[frozen void]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-gif-5677380953331354485

[paper marsh]

Knives were my goat. Along with spears. Allow for a lot of movement

By now I've shifted to fist weapons. They're basically just all the upsides of knives, but better and add in the benefit of having a stagger weapon instead of mace/battleaxe/atgeir

[sleek sky]

I would use them if there were more tbh

Fists are goated tho

[paper marsh]

I swap weapons every biome so to me weapon gaps don't matter a lot

[wanton vessel]

any news on the playstation announcement?

[merry pebble]

Only info we have is still 2026 🙂

[paper venture]

Guys i did something cool i transported two baby lox from the plains to the meadow it was a lot of work but ok xD

[edgy bridge]

is there a specific channel to try and find servers to join?

[shadow finch]

Lightining is the best damage type in the game by far

No wonder you didn't get anything that deal lightning damage till the Mistlands and Ashlands

[chrome badge]

You'll want to use #1024264966712340510 👍

[edgy bridge]

ty

[wheat spire]

Haven't played in years. Started missing the game. Is it still regularly updated? If so, can it be played solo or do you sorta need a group to do some of the content?

[chrome badge]

It is still being updated, and you can play either way as it is balanced for either!

[plucky hinge]

Glad I scrolled back for this one. Thank you! I saw a video today that discussed the cattle bridge and some other moat etc. techniques., so this fits.

The corewood candle technique sounds interesting.
#screenshots message

[silk token]

there's TONS of new stuff added dont look at any spoilers or videos just play it and love it again!

[dull warren]

Damn, starred seeker soldeirs are no joke

[steel forge]

My first time in the mistlands there was a 2 star at the top of some spiral stairs in an infested mine. I decided it was his mine at that point and didn’t come back till I had an ember staff.

[dull warren]

I figured out how to semi cheese them pretty quick, they suck at climbing more than I do, and they can't fly

[steel forge]

Yep, the stairs were what were keeping me from progressing in that mine though and I didn’t have a shot with a bow lol.

[silk token]

thats happened to me lol, i couldnt even get up the stairs to fight it, the thing just plugged it. i think i threw a spear at it a hundred times til it died

[granite grail]

Frost arrows work well for them too

[odd barn]

The first cave I dove into in the Ashlands to save myself from the swarm of crap outside... spawned a two star Morgen.
It was a whole thing.

[wheat lagoon]

man, there's no dedicated servers to play on lol

[rugged maple]

i put some questions on the help chat if anyone can help me i will be very greatfull

[dawn basin]

i mean join a guy who host ;o and pray u2 have similar play time haha

[static ruin]

you can filter #1024264966712340510 by dedicated servers

[warm depot]

There is a thoery I alwasy come back to. The scale for measurements to real life in the game is broken

It is lile a 2:1

[wheat lagoon]

either modded or super old

[warm depot]

The normal bad for example, sits on 2 wooden floors, those are 2x2m in the game

The bed is for one person

In real life that bad would be almost 2x4 meters

And the viking nicely fits in it

Imagine a 16m square room, pretty big, that would only be 2x2 wooden floors

And the dragon bed, is almost 4x4 meters!!!!!

Thats two Fiat 500's

[dull warren]

A twin bed IRL is 2.1m by 3m, so it's not far off

[warm depot]

What, Canadian king??

Oh wait I see the flag lmao

[dull warren]

A not American king lol but let's not go there

[warm depot]

Usually a twin bed is max 2x2m, and thats a big bed, that is only a single piece of wooden floor

[dull warren]

Actually we measure those things in feet a lot here

[warm depot]

The normal door, small one, would be 2x2m in real life

The viking is gigantic

If somebody wants to build a house from real life in Valheim, 1m from real life is 2m in Valheim

[dull warren]

I think the rule of thumb is to add 40% to indoor videogame spaces or they feel cramped

[warm depot]

Especially in third person yes

[dull warren]

Plus yea in the third person a camera can't follow you indoors from above and behind you with 8 foot ceilings

[warm depot]

The viking is bigger so everything feels small

[dull warren]

This is a nice dverger village and I want it. I shall murder them all 🦹‍♂️

[warm depot]

You know, I havent paid any attention to the staircase proportions

I want to see if they follow the L+2h=62 or 64cm

I alr know it wont lmao

The small staircase is 1m tall

And it has what, 4 stairs?

5???

Its to scale for the viking

Human steps being 64cm and the Viking a bigger human

Checks out lmao

So if you ever want to replicate your house in Valheim or such, use an 1:2 scale

[plucky hinge]

I have to hunch my back to fit into the door.

[ashen seal]

why do the devs hate piercing damage?

ive invested so much into my new splitnir and ash bow with gems and ive just discovered basically everything resists piercing

id also really like for spears to have a chain mechanic where when you throw it you can reel it back in like a fishing rod

instead of running headfirst into the enemy

[analog hearth]

abyssal harpoon upgrades when

[ashen seal]

would be cool

[dull warren]

eh, that would obviate the risk of throwing it off a cliff, which I find a really neat mechanic

[ashen seal]

huh? why would you throw the spear off a cliff?

[dull warren]

Because you miss

[ashen seal]

um, okay

[analog hearth]

I just want to attach a string to a long stick, man

[dull warren]

It would be a nice upgrade I think, I don't use spears much though

[dull warren]

I just want actual ladders, man. Not steeper, bouncier stairs.

[strange cradle]

I would rather ask why the Devs hate Bonemass. It has become a complete joke. Being a tank stopped being viable in certain situations because Bonemass pretty much stopped doing anything.

[static ruin]

me too but in a different arrangement

[ashen seal]

#suggestions message made a spear suggestion, please go check it out and let me know your thoughts 💚

[dull warren]

Upvoted, you convinced me

[analog hearth]

what is wrong with bonemass btw? What was it like before
I only fought it once with my friends, I was just staying afar and firing arrows at the thing, not really knowing any better

[strange cradle]

Bonemass was too strong initially, I can agree with that. But they have nerfed it completely. It barely mitigates any damage now.

In certain situations, where you will need Bonemass, it is now completely useless.

Oh... I am talking about Bonemass's boss power, not Bonemass itself.

Bonemass is really just a tutorial boss. Pretty much a pushover.

On default difficulty, if you're prepared, you can kill it in five minutes.

But I'm talking about the power it grants, which used to be a massive mitigation of any physical damage. It was too strong initially, but now it's practically nonexistent.

[analog hearth]

oh rip

[paper marsh]

Bonemass is pretty useful against a lot of damage (starred enemies, high difficulty, or if you have light armor). But if you get a lot of armor already facing some enemies with wet noodles, bonemass isn't really gonna help

[analog hearth]

speaking of forsaken powers, which one do people use the most

[paper marsh]

Think it's gotta be Eikthyr

First one you get, hella nice in all stages of the games, good for exploration, resource handling, and combat

[tepid prawn]

Eikthyr, Elder, Moder, Yagluth are currently my top 4 I think, using bone less now

[paper marsh]

Moder I'd think might be the 2nd most popular

[tacit crystal]

Splitnir is great there, especially Primal and Thundering versions. And not everything resist pierce just charred and Morgen (which resist also blunt and slash). They are very useful against voltures, asksvin and fallen valkyries.

[paper marsh]

Might be good for Deep North

[analog hearth]

deep north release, real

[ashen seal]

fair but the secondary attack is really just horrifically bad, it really needs a rework or a way to bring the spear back to you without running in head first

[nocturne wolf]

it’s not that bad if you’re in singleplayer, the biggest problem is other players picking it up

[ashen seal]

it is that bad, disabling yourself from using a weapon is the worst possible thing you can do with a weapon mechanic.

[nocturne wolf]

if it’s a melee enemy you’re throwing at they won’t be able to hit you either until you get close enough to pick it up. just don’t throw from too far away

[strange cradle]

Well, when I'm entering my first infested mines with BM gear and come face to face with two one star seekers, "wet noodles" is all I got. It's the best I can get at this stage. Bonemass needs to protect me against attacks from stronger enemies, because I WILL be hit fighting multiple enemies in tight corridors. It currently is no longer capable of doing so. It definitely needs a rethink.

You can't dodge-roll out of every situation. You need to be able to kill your enemies and survive!

[high coral]

when using fire hazard option in world settings, is it normal that hitting a stack of wood with fire arrow turns it into coal? Thus bypassing a need for kiln?

[strange cradle]

Yeah, that can happen.

[nocturne wolf]

any fire damage will do that, not just arrows

[high coral]

intended feature then

[tacit crystal]

I actually love the ability to throw it since I don't need to carry a bow.

[ashen seal]

thats crazy man, you gotta carry a bow

[tacit crystal]

And it is great initiative attack against unalerted enemies.

[ashen seal]

i agree, its great for sneak attacks

[tacit crystal]

I have spear.

[strange cradle]

I will never get how anybody can like the spear as their main weapon and not even use a bow. But I guess different people, different strokes. 😉

[high coral]

i find it hard to predict the trajectory but it's quicker than bow and less stamina too

[granite grail]

I love my bows lol can't live without them

[shadow finch]

I accidently put my ash fang into an obliterator and haven't made one since

[high coral]

i see a lot of people using spear throw against trolls

[shadow finch]

The memory is just too painful

[shadow finch]

Well yeah spear does pierce damage and troll is weak to pierce

Also you can hit his weak spot with the spear throw

[high coral]

if one was able to set different secondary attacks and swap them as needed, that would be cool

[paper marsh]

In vile gear I'd actually think bonemass has huge value

But based on your playstyle, I assume you're more the padded armor type of guy

[shadow finch]

Getting vile gear in the first place is noterious

That damn trophy is such a nuisance

[paper marsh]

More weapon comboes/attacks would be very cool

I feel like devs want to keep it simple though 😔

[granite grail]

Trolls have a weak spot??

[shadow finch]

Their head

[high coral]

it does make sense

[shadow finch]

They take double pierce damage on their head

[granite grail]

Huh I thought only seeker soldiers had actual weak spots

[paper marsh]

Seeker soldiers, Trolls, and Gjall

Off the top of my head

[shadow finch]

Gjalls also have weak spots

[shadow finch]

Those are the only ones

[high coral]

anything else?

[shadow finch]

no justthose three

[granite grail]

Okay yes I forgot the gjalls XD my most despised nemesis

[paper marsh]

Not that it is in anyway explained by the game. I mean gjall and soldier is kinda obvious, but troll really isn't. and if you do discover it, you probably expect ALL headshots to do extra damage, but nope only trolls

[shadow finch]

Gjalls become such a breeze when you can hit them in the weak spot constantly

Can kill them in 30 seconds easily

[high coral]

i do like that game isn't balanced around headshotting enemies, have hard time hitting them as it is

[shadow finch]

It would make the bow even stronger than it is and keep people from using melee

[granite grail]

If you can see them up there in the fog XD I hate them they're always showing up when I'm busy. You can't ignore them or get rid of them you always have to fight them it's annoying. I'm usually not ready

[paper marsh]

Fact

There's nothing as good as sitting with like 1 carapace spear and vile armor right under a Gjall and just rapid firing into its guts

It explodes in seconds

[shadow finch]

Same they always jumpscare my when I am trying to do something

[paper marsh]

I don't think I've ever encountered the legendary 2 star Gjall

[high coral]

was punching a bear from behind under and i can't but think that nut hits must have hurt a lot

[shadow finch]

not as quite as when I was burning him with a campfire

Have him trapped in a box

Slowly burning to death

[analog hearth]

what is seeker soldier's weak spot
Wish I had known that when I was trying to kill it with a bow... I ended up running and out of stam most of the time, then died to ticks :(

[shadow finch]

It's the little shell behind it

[high coral]

painful indeed, you could double it with nut hits

[analog hearth]

if it is chasing me then I guess I can't ever hit that...

[shadow finch]

I would recommend parrying, jumping over him and hitting him there to stagger lock him

[analog hearth]

I see

[granite grail]

The exposed end of the abdomen

[strange cradle]

I play as a tank. Heaviest armor, shields, one-handed weapon (mostly swords).

I rarely dodge-roll, I need to be able to take a hit, or two, or three.

[shadow finch]

Parryig than?

[granite grail]

I haven't encountered a 1 star and I'm not complaining 😂

[strange cradle]

Tower shields can't parry. And parrying becomes useless if you face more than one enemy in tight situations.

If you try to survive in a fort you don't parry, you try to destroy spawners.

[paper marsh]

I actually find parrying better against crowds. Can parry multiple to stun them and buff your damage without depleting your stamina or becoming staggered, then retaliate

[shadow finch]

Parrying is king no matter what

Besides even when you are crowded it ain't hard to parry

Just gotta stay calm and assess the situation

[paper marsh]

But against crowds I prefer not to parry or block, but rather pick enemies off one by one with damage, or stagger the whole crowd with a battleaxe or something

[shadow finch]

Props to you for even carrying a battleaxe with you

[strange cradle]

I'm talking about confined situations, like mines and forts.

[paper marsh]

Used to hate them, but they really shine sometimes. Especially in dungeons

[granite grail]

Battleaxes are goated

[strange cradle]

I'm NOT talking about open areas.

[ashen seal]

i wish we had better bombs for ashlands

[shadow finch]

Forts are in no way a confined situation

You have plently of space to operate with

[strange cradle]

They absolutely are if you've just broken the door and are greeted by the welcoming committee.

[shadow finch]

Than create some space

[high coral]

wouldn't atgeir secondary shine even more?

[ashen seal]

guys do i enchant my ashfang with lightning or blood?

[granite grail]

I made the proustite bombs thinking I could toss them from my hands. Imagine my disappointment and disgust loll

[shadow finch]

never with blood

[paper marsh]

atgeir secondary always shines

That's why I never use it

[shadow finch]

Don't enchant anything with blood

[ashen seal]

i thought the slayer was amazing with blood

[shadow finch]

Nothing is good with blood

It requires you to lower your hp to be usefull

For a meager damage boost

[strange cradle]

I need to destroy spawners to prevent more enemies from coming. "Space" is something I don't have in that situation.

[ashen seal]

doesnt it also improve the base damage of the wep by a big amount?

[high coral]

so your issue is that game is too easy for you with some weapons

[paper marsh]

Slayer can be pretty fun with blood, dunno if I would necessarily say good. Blood is just all around pretty risky for only a slightly ebtter buff than lightning and jade

But blood crossbow is pretty neat. You can go down to low hp while in a safe spot, then do a blood crossbow sneak attack. Can oneshot vlakyries

[shadow finch]

no

it actually add nothing compared to the 10 poison or lighting of the other two

[high coral]

what other weapons do you find too easy ? 🙂

[shadow finch]

Thundering Berserker Axes

[ashen seal]

i remember watching a video and seeing the blood slayer being the highest dmg in the game you can achieve but was unrealistic to do

[shadow finch]

Slaughter anything and everything

[shadow finch]

yeah because if you lose like 50% of your max hp, you get a meager 10% damage buff

[ashen seal]

idk man blood fang looks so fucking cool

[shadow finch]

Yeah but it ain't strong

Jade or Lightning is better

Blood in genearl in valheim is just too weak, they need to rework it or buff it

[paper marsh]

Atgeir, bows, staff of protection, staff of wilds, trollstav, staff of embers

Basically atgeir, infinite health shields, and most ranged weapons are kinda easy

[ashen seal]

i guess ill enchant it with lightning

but the blood calls to me.....

[shadow finch]

Never used magic once in valheim

[shadow finch]

Just go with the blood than

Killing people while looking cool is a good part of valheim as well

[high coral]

ok, ranged are easier in most games

atgeir is somewhat balanced with the primary attack being resisted by many enemies

wish that battleaxe had such a cool secondary

also pity that weapons don't change their damage type based on type of attack, like for example sword primary slash and secondary pierce

[nocturne wolf]

but then you’d often only have one effective attack

[shadow finch]

It's a usefull one for the battleaxe kit, I think it fits it well

[nocturne wolf]

and having multiple weapons would be less useful

[paper marsh]

well the primary attack is fine yea. But the spin even if resisted is just nuts. In mistlands that even gets mitigated by adding in lightning

[high coral]

it would give weapons better versatility

[paper marsh]

Not a fan of anything lowering build diversity

[shadow finch]

Sword mains would outright not use anything else

Not like they already do but still

[kindred linden]

atgeir feels like cheating. i love it

just like

[high coral]

well, there's rarely any reason to use the secondary for me with sword but i guess i'm not as experienced

[nocturne wolf]

sword secondary is so good, no other attack has that high of a damage multiplier

[shadow finch]

parry + sword secondary

[nocturne wolf]

it’s great for dealing damage safely, you can poke the enemy from just outside their reach while dealing huge damage. I use silver sword secondary for starred warriors in ashlands and rarely even trigger their attacks

[paper marsh]

huh never knew it was 3x, always thought it was 2x

[shadow finch]

yeah its 3x, should probably be nerfed to 2.5x tbh

[nocturne wolf]

then it would just be mace secondary without the stagger

or is that 2x damage 2.5x stagger? i always forget it

[high coral]

was it 2.4m primary and 2.7m secondary?

[tacit crystal]

Other way around.

[tawny blaze]

5 forts and no jades :/ really want to craft a klossen and staff of life so I can add them to my thundering axes to what I assume is a very strong combo. Took a break from raiding forts to tame some askvin and dig out a fort for a big ashlands base

[paper marsh]

To me it sounds alright as is. I never felt like swords particularly outperformed other weapons for me, they're just a weapon that is available in (basically) every biome, sometimes in both 1h and 2h version, and slash is super versatile. Which is why I think people stick to them a lot. People seem to have an aversion to changing weapon types

[shadow finch]

I only started using a sword in Plains and just stuck with it till the Ashlands

It trades defense for offense which suits me a lot

Probably the most offensive weapon type

[high coral]

it does save on resources

i'd like on other hand try all weapons and have them all easily available but the limit is resources and hotbar

[paper marsh]

I don't follow that logic

[high coral]

skill being harder to train with multiple weapons is another consideration

[paper marsh]

You make a bronze sword. You progress to swamp. You can make an iron sword or a mace.

Won't sticking to sword cost the same-ish resources as making a mace? And won't a sword and a mace take up the same amount of space?

[high coral]

how is this illogical, you can make several weapons for each biome

[paper marsh]

Yeah this is usually the main concern, but imo skill trains very quick early on so its easy to switch if you haven't dedicated yourself to swords and are at 80 skill in mistlands before deciding to swap

I swap weapons every time I progress to a new biome, on hard difficulty, and I feel like my weapons do plenty of damage. Even when using something like a spear against a blob

[high coral]

hotbar isn't limitless as well

[paper marsh]

I think I get what you mean now. You want multiple weapons AT THE SAME TIME.

Why not just swap to a new one entirely though? Skip the iron sword, go for a mace instead?

[shadow finch]

Iron mace is definitely the best weapon choice in the swamps

[high coral]

because i'm a new player, i don't know which weapon is best for each biome without spoilers

it is if you have limited resources

[shadow finch]

than get more resources, ain't like resources are running out

If you want a mace, make it. Dont like? mine iron and make a sword

[high coral]

naturally, that is common sense

common sense also is that it takes more time

[shadow finch]

if you don't got time enable 2x or 3x resources

to reduce the grind

Always an option to customize your experience and make it better for you

[high coral]

the talk was about why people just make one weapon

[chrome badge]

If you're looking to sort this out for yourself, I would suggest the cheapest variants of all available weapon types be kept somewhere for damage testing against enemies, the super effective damages will display in yellow numbers.

[paper marsh]

Yeah no need to know. If you don't know which weapon is best, you're free to try anything you want

Anyways I wouldn't worry about it. For example for swamp, ||pierce|| is generally the worst weapon type there but I still kill things fine with it.

[shadow finch]

Atgeir used in any biome regardless of resistance

[paper marsh]

I'm very resource concious in that I tend to skip a lot of gear (which I only recommend for experienced players that know what gear is necessary / know how to go without some gear), to minimize my resource gathering. Especially in BF - bleh, copper mining

[high coral]

i was replying to this message #valheim-chat message

and i said that i love switching them

that is, use any weapon that is more suitable for the situation

[paper marsh]

Ye that's fair

I do often run around with 2 weapons to swap between because I find it fun

Sometimes prior biome weapons can be pretty neat too. Like I'll run black forest bear fists and swamp battleaxe

[high coral]

one issue that i have is that getting skill to 100 and having 144% damage bonus is perhaps too powerful and game changing

not that is' realistic to achieve that in normal play ig

somewhat of a fomo perhaps

[shadow finch]

depends but it ain't extremely hard

Just gotta not die

[paper marsh]

It is quite the difference. But I don't think it's problematic

Other than for bows which gets its dps hextupled or something. That's a lot of damage

[shadow finch]

This why i tend to not use bows a lot

Stick to the good old sword and shield

in fact my blocking skill is 51 and bow is 47 which is quite suprising for me

[paper marsh]

Same, haven't used one for a couple years

And honestly, exploring spear, crossbow, and hybrid mage for ranged options has been incredibly fun

[paper marsh]

damn, that's a nice block skill

[shadow finch]

helps with parrying lord reto

[paper marsh]

mhm

I don't think I can possibly parry lord Reto with the rules I play by 😅

I may be wrong, but it would be devastating to be proven right

[shadow finch]

You need evasion mantle + carapce buckler + 3 top tier health food and even than you get staggered on some of his hits

I have a video of me fighting him like that

Dodged at first to raise adrenaline than fought him with the shield

Scariest fight of the entire game

[high coral]

that reminds me that if i'm not dying then difficulty settings aren't high enough, bows have likely also less chance to die

[paper marsh]

I play on Hard though, so I'm wondering if that's enough

If I add in Fader power it would probably work, come to think of it.

Only other option would be magic bubble shield to parry, but I've banned that staff

[high coral]

how does parrying scale with harder difficulties?

[shadow finch]

it doesn't but enemies deal more damage

[shadow finch]

I don't think it would be possible, his damage would just increase too much he already hits for like 500 it would go to like 750

Maybe tho idk it would be very risky, i could try

[high coral]

serpenet nearly wrecked my boat

you can't fight it very well without ranged, right?

i did a lot of exploration in order to find Haldor but to no avail

[paper marsh]

Enemies do 50% more damage on hard, double damage on Very Hard. Parrying works pretty decent on Hard imo, though big enemies or starred enemies you may not be able to parry sometimes.

On very hard you can forget about parrying anything but the basic non-starred enemies of each biome, unless you're really doing some progression skipping and big health builds

[high coral]

so i suppose it's more about dodging there

and if you miss parry you gotta get pummeled pretty hard, even if you could parry the neemy

[paper marsh]

Dodging or doing stagger damage with weapons. Fist weapons kick is a favorite of mine. Battleaxe, mace, or atgeir quite nice too

Very Hard is quite unbalanced. Gonna be 1-2 shot from most mobs

Some people enjoy it tho. I did when I played it, but I found it more fun to downgrade to Hard and then do some little personal challenges to spice things up

[shadow finch]

Very hard takes the fun out of the game for me personally

Just narrows thea mount of strategies and styles you can do

[paper marsh]

Understandable

[shadow finch]

In hard you can still manage with most stuff if you are good at the game

[paper marsh]

Normal felt boring to me because I didn't feel challenged anymore. Very Hard felt limiting which sucked but at least there was some challenge. Hard is pretty perfect middleground

[high coral]

yes, i can see how it limits the options

[shadow finch]

well said

I think after you first playthough, hard becomes the standard option

Normal doesn't feel challenging enough

[paper marsh]

I will say I'm a bit of masochist so I play with a list of like 20 challenges that ban certain items, push me to embrace certain playstyles, remove all sorts of cheese, etc.

[shadow finch]

I just banned magic fully no matter what

Never once touched magic in all my time playing valheim

[paper marsh]

So I guess to an extent I am limiting myself, but sometimes I feel like banning one weapon opens up the possibilities of so many other weapons because now there's not that "one OP weapon I HAVE to use"

[shadow finch]

Any sword, they all too op (I am just a sword fanatic and delusional)

[paper marsh]

I'm actually curious what others would think of my playstyle and limitations. Do you guys find the below challenges fun or insane?

Deep North Update Run
Settings:
Hard Difficulty
Raid Rate more (if two players, max if 1 player)
Fire Hazards on

Challenges:

• Permadeath
• Consider root harnesk a set bonus. Must wear full set if using harnesk.
• No Resistance Meads
• Must kill Hildr boss of biome (if it has one) before killing actual boss of biome
• No upgrading shields (lvl 1 only). Until Ashlands, then can upgrade fully.
• Friendly fire on?

Anti-Cheese Rules:

• No Bow
• No Staff of Protection
• No Atgeir
• No Staff of The Wilds
• No spamming spear throw.
• No Excessive Pet tactics
• No Bonemass power
• No bombs inside dungeons / no cheesing with bombs. New blob spawning bombs are fine, due to trophies being limited.
• No skill training (just level skills naturally)
• No breaking Dvergr crates with carts, eitr, etc.
• No portaling out of dire situations
• No Terrain Walls
• No Excessive spawn proofing
• Treat Ashlands fortress as though they have a shield generator and no-build zone (Can't ladder/terrain manipulate in, can't kill things with range before entering)

General ideas:

• Try to switch weapons often between biomes to be jack of all traits
• Get frisky, use bear armor and take on challenges

[frozen void]

Each to their own i guess.

[static ruin]

at a glance? it seems overdesigned

maybe a bit unfair but that you put this much effort into presenting to others how you play just reads as odd

ill do an actual read rather than a skim if you ask again, but its your game, play how you want it aint my business (not to be dismissive, mind you, you did ask for opinions)

[high coral]

the second half of anti cheese if what i usually do in games as a rule. I try to limit cheese and scummy tactics unless i can't find a normal way to solve the issue without it becoming too tedious/grindy

[paper marsh]

Mostly just to present to myself, so I can have a glance and see what I was going for after taking a years break or something, and to keep it straight because I tend to make different challenges for different worlds

[static ruin]

i suppose thats fair, youre a much more organized person than i am in that case

[high coral]

so basically not grinding, cheesing should be considered normal, unless the game is badly designed

i have similar set of rules in games that i play a lot and that aren't well balanced, like when playing several roguelikes aka adom

[paper marsh]

tbf I did just run around with general ideas of what I wanted to do in my head, but I think I have a very unhealthy tendency to play a game and unless I am being beat to a pulp I feel the game is too easy and then I am not having fun. But then if I start getting the hang of things and max difficulty, I again start getting bored and then feel like I need to find some way of making it harder again, and then I've had a lot of back and forth of what would make the game more hard (and interesting) so ended up having to write it all 😰

I think I need to try a second to just enjoy the game as is sometimes tho

[high coral]

if you could stick so long with this game and have fun so far then that speaks a lot of quality of it

[granite grail]

In regards to the anti cheese rules I don't do most of them anyway, but I don't like the no bows since it's legitimately one of the games main weaponss, and the can't break Dvergr crates with eitr (I keep pretty much all of them neutral), and portaling out to not die. Otherwise, I already follow the rest naturally with a couple exceptions 😂

Totally unrelated but I swear I try to go to bed earlier but conversations converse and it's suddenly 4am again 😭 😂

[granite grail]

Okay now I'm curious about this. What if you can't find Hildir on the map for a long time? Do you wait on the elder, Moder, and Yag until you find her? Or I guess just search everywhere for the secret locations?

[high coral]

i'm going to make a new shore base and looking for inspiration. Do you know of a nice video or pics that you'd recommend?

[wheat peak]

New to the game. Are there any mounts down the line?

[paper marsh]

Yes, two :)

They're maybe a bit different from some in other games tho, people don't tend to use them much

I think they're pretty cool tho

[wheat peak]

Nice

[paper marsh]

idk, never ran into that issue. I usually explore a lot once I get the Karve bc I like to scout out a good spot for a base with iron and silver near, and to get some chitin / serpent drops.

I usually find all the traders or at least 2 of them while exploring around looking for that, then the third one maybe shortly after

That said the Hildr boss rule I actually added recently and haven't really done a full playthrough with yet

[high coral]

do you look for them by going inside the land or just sailing?

[opal prairie]

I wouldn't hold of for any trader but I would tend to look harder for Haldor and the bog witch than I would do for Hildir, she has some nice items but nothing as important as from the two others.

[paper marsh]

I mostly sail around looking because the main purpose of exploring is to scout out some swamps (that I don't want to set foot in this early, unless I see a turnip on the edge) and to find serpents and leviathans.

But if wind goes against me I might make landfall in meadows or BF, pop eikthyr, and go for a run to explore. Then build a new boat and continue

[high coral]

i must either have terrible luck on Haldor or i dunno. Will trader only spawn at a certain location and that's it and and unless player goes to that exact location they might never find it?

i noticed that with Hildir which i found, there's a generous distance at which the trader is visible

originally i thought that i have to get much closer to find them

[echo plaza]

There is more then one on the map when you start, the first one that you are close to will pop up and be selected . That will be the sole one from then on.

[paper marsh]

Yeah there's something like 6-8ish locations that each trader can appear in. And whenever you go to one of the locations, they spawn there and will never spawn anywhere else

Traders also spawn at a certain range from the center of the map. So once you get a feel for how far out you have to search, it gets a lil' easier

[rain flare]

Would be cool if they moved so you could get a feeling that they just hopped around the map when they feel like if 🥰

So after X amount of time they move to a new spot

[echo plaza]

As long as they send you a card with the new address.

[opal prairie]

Haldor has 10 spots and all are at least 1500m from center in a black forest, the first spot you get close to will be the permanent spot. It gets marked on the map with an icon looking like a coin bag.

[stray wolf]

WHat do you guys have for dinner today, I need some ideas

[paper marsh]

idk what I'll have today, but yesterday was my birthday and I went to an interesting restaurant. Had pheasant soup and guinea fowl ravioli with some really good veggies on top

[stray wolf]

Thanks i will look it up to see if i can make one

happy birthday also!

[paper marsh]

Thank you 🥳

[opal prairie]

Pasta with a sauce based on cherry tomatoes, garlic and spicy peppers, with pecorino romana and mozarella incorporated in the sauce.

[high coral]

aglio olio pepperoncino

[storm sinew]

Would you guys recommend skoll and hati against queen?

Oh nvm it has pierce on it

[tacit crystal]

It is pretty nice against her.

Between her melee attacks you have time to do full 3 hit combo or one secondary attack (which has 3x damage multiplier).

[high coral]

wanted to mine just one more tin deposit but had to fight 2 bears and 1 troll for it

life of valheim is hard

[storm sinew]

Melee against queen is a challenged, took 18mins to kill her and 6 major healing, 3 lingering staminas, 2 poison resistance and 2 ratatosk

Switching between level 3 Krom and level 2 Mistwalker with carapace shield

[opal prairie]

Nicely done. Magic makes it way easier yeah.

[storm sinew]

Thanks, also i despised her charge attack and her range attack, so annoying i have to distance myself twice to regen up

[silk token]

yeah, i think the fight is very well designed to use the new magic weapons. melee ive found her attacks pretty hard to time unless familiar with them especially her bite cuz her head goes so far past and doesnt actually hit til the chomp sound, ive dodge too early several times. i wouldnt change her much tho, she feels like an epic fight against a thing the dverger knew better than to mess with

[warped oyster]

Yeah magic makes a lot of content significantly easier for me at least... firelands is so much easier with magic imo

[dim python]

was there once a now removed early axes emote?

i guess i just need nitro...

or is it gone...?

it seems joel has that emote in another server

yeah looks like the emote has only ever been used by joel.
sorry for taking up space

[lone rampart]

If you click the emote in the other server, it should tell you where it’s from

Click or mouse over, I forget

[dim python]

it's hidden

and/or private

i think joel has a personal server of his own with a bunch of emotes just for him

[paper marsh]

Same, it trivializes things a lot

That's why I like to go melee for more engaging gameplay, but just sprinkle in some magic here and there for funsies

[pastel lynx]

I asked the other day how come flametal pillars don't make grausten build pieces blue the same way that iron beams do for stone build pieces. But does anyone know of a way to achieve that goal? Building a tower of grausten becomes difficult without any beams being able to maintain the structural integrity :/

[storm sinew]

Yep

Now im back on ashlands for the 2nd time

[frozen void]

Iron doesnt make stone blue

[dim python]

iron makes wood blue

and reduces the structural support decaying of stone

[silk token]

ashlands i felt the opposite, i hated magic there and the 2nd time went melee and was mad at myself for ever using magic there

so much time casting a running jumping blood shield to get instantly broken again

[pastel lynx]

Oh, my mistake then, thank you!

[pastel lynx]

Yeah my bad, I misremembered. Cheers, I guess I need to get some iron support beams going then!

[frozen void]

Does it even make wood blue? Blue just means it has lost 0 support, like if it is touching the ground, a stone or a tree, et

[storm sinew]

Yeah, running and hitting while using magic is a must, cant really stand your ground and hit unless someone with a strong attack will break your shield

[dim python]

according to a vid i watched wood is at 0 structural disintegrity when placed atop stone or iron beams

[pastel lynx]

Iron beams definitely make wood blue as long as the beam is connected to the ground at the very bottom of the beam pillar. but for some reason I misremembered it as able to do the same for stone, which isn't the case.

[dim python]

stone is like a foundation for any wood

[silk token]

well yeah, but then the whole time is spent running or holding down frost staff pewpewpewpewpewepwwpwepepwepwwpewpew walking a soldier slowly walk toward you. pretty lame when you can parry thrust dead

[pastel lynx]

Also worth noting that iron beams are not blue if connected to a stone floor, the bottom beam/pillar needs to be connected to the ground for it to work optimally

[frozen void]

Ah yeah i remember. But i dont think it remains blue at max height for iron at least

[silk token]

and then theres the green afk staff lol, idk i just was bored with magic even tho it was neat

[dim python]

at max height probably no but just below it and anywhere else yeah

[frozen void]

Yeah stone minimum support is less than max wood so that makes sense

[storm sinew]

I used the nature staff against lord reto for the first time and i was like, "yeah this is kinda cheesy" imagine 15 roots hitting him, the chances of him getting root is so high

[dim python]

elder cosplay

[paper marsh]

Would you ever consider a hybrid build?

even with just like .5 eitr food or something

[dim python]

i've contemplated this

[crude shell]

guys if someone use the epic loot in this game can he answear at my question in #mods-issues ???

[dim python]

patience patrick

it's a slow day today even in the main channels

[crude shell]

do you think with my face i have patience?? xDD

[dim python]

you sure are in no rush for dental work 🤭

[crude shell]

😂

[silk token]

i tried one, it was kind of fun actually and required medium strategy. i did skeletons and blood shield with red greatsword. they kind of tanked and distracted while i flanked things with greatsword thrusts, all eitr went to re-shielding skeletons and my damage was all sword. it was pretty fun

[thorny saffron]

hybrid builds are ass no?

as compared to full magic

[silk token]

they’re more fun at least. i imagine if you’re playing as bow or nimble low hp builds, a blood shield would be pretty good to have.

but then again i think full max hp melee is better than full magic so i might not be the one to ask

if you can use eityr and stam at the same time obviously thats the most dps anyway

[paper marsh]

Theyre a bit worse imo yea

Then again, melee is worse than full magic imo

Full magic just gets boring AF sitting from afar in an unkillable shield holding left click

[silk token]

id rather parry thrust dead something than sit there pew pew pew pew its safer sure but gag me

[frosty turret]

do we have any information on when the next update is coming?

[frozen void]

No

[idle epoch]

I think it is fun to start new worlds, with new characters. Playing alone kind of sucks, when you are ready to pass from black forest. It takes alot of work to get that far, and not cheat at all. I am proud of my simple self. Figuring out the cooking thing, and organizing every thing. I have not been far into swamp. Just a slow play. I dont seem to fit in too well, with experienced balls to the wall players. Finding a real slow, chill person to play with, is on my bucket list. Back to day 90 game.

[paper marsh]

Dunno if it’s the next one, but we know the game will come to switch and PlayStation sometime this year

Deep North update we don’t know when though

[amber gale]

I actually run a hybrid build as well. Full flametal armor, but I run piquant pie, ashlands feast, and marinated greens for foods. I have well over 200hp and I think like 130 eitr or something.

Can definitely mess things up at short and long range

[dull warren]

Nice, a gjall took out a dvergr camp, the dvergrs mostly finished off the gjall, and it dropped a trophy

[dire oracle]

They're cooking something for us on June 7th. We nicely nzz until they wrote a post on Instagram about the stream on the PC Gaming show.

[dark zodiac]

120 days registered in my alone world, 90 minimum have been making farms and honey, i totally understand you

[frosty turret]

oooo i hope theyre cooking something very good

[chrome badge]

Nature is beautiful

[snow aurora]

Knife always better

[abstract warren]

This is my favourite by far #fanart message

The way it captures the Mistlands atmosphere with such realism

@viral prairie 👨🏻‍🎨🏆

[prime moth]

my sadness has gone and i am ready to try again

[abstract warren]

And the new one you just posted

Wow

[plucky rock]

yes

eventually they said

[paper marsh]

They were, but now fists just seem like better knives to me

[ember panther]

Fists have a good special attack but I still prefer the quick swipe of knives

[queen wadi]

bigger sword

[paper marsh]

knives do attack a bit faster, but I feel like the combo of knife and fists is about comparable on time

[dim python]

before you ran fists did you run knives

(my darling mace 💕)

[paper marsh]

I like the damage type, sneak damage, stagger, and overall combat of the fists better (I feel like they're better at swapping from one enemy to another, especially fun during a raid. Prob bc they have longer range)

[snow aurora]

It's Too slow. i hate the krom. It can't parry heavy hitters

[paper marsh]

I used to run a lot of knives and spears. I still do, but I would take fists over them'

[queen wadi]

It absolutely can

[dim python]

do a challenge run instead of permadeath

[snow aurora]

Thundering great sword is a pain to use in the ashlands. The spear is way more fun

[paper marsh]

imo the greatsword is pretty nice for starting engagements in the ashlands. Jumping at an askvin with a secondary attack is a nice way to stagger them while taking out a chunk of health

[prime moth]

i still enjoy the permadeaths i just have a counterbalance of sadness when i have to start over

[dark coyote]

I tried a spear run, I lost it in the mountains 🙄

[snow aurora]

lol

[paper marsh]

Somehow I always ended up failing those in black forest. After a few attempts i got tired out and needed a lil' break before coming back

Though once I made it past BF I was cruisin'

Think spear is the only weapon I've gotten to 100 by Plains

Great weapon of choice

[prime moth]

yeah black forest is really easy to underestimate and go in too quick

[dark coyote]

I think its good early, I'll always be a guy though

[viral prairie]

Thank you 🤝

[frozen void]

How do you make them?

Looks really good

[viral prairie]

Can I let you in on a little secret

[frozen void]

Sure

[abstract warren]

I was gonna ask the same

[frozen void]

?

[paper marsh]

Yeah, I think I just underestimated too how Very Hard switched things up. In later biomes I get a lot of gear I can use to my advantage to survive. But starting black forest I barely have anything, and then mobs doing double damage is just an instakill

Am happy I'm not playing Vhard anymore

[prime moth]

i dont think id do v hard unless i was in a group or something

scliding damage numbers just doesnt add much intrest to me

[viral prairie]

It is the only thing I use chatgpt for. Valheim stuff that is. 99% of it is just screenshots in a “realistic” way. But sometimes I mess around with the fonts and those are a few of the results. Not claiming I hand drew these (I feel like that was obvious). The only effort I make is actually taking screenshots in game for references

Check screenshots

[frozen void]

Yeah thats what i thought lol

[viral prairie]

Baited me

[plucky hinge]

I'm still stuck in Black Forest and trying to survive troll raids.

[chrome badge]

Stuck in the Black Forest? How does one do that?

[viral prairie]

I don’t do it as a form of disrespect. It all started as a question I asked myself, “what would a troll look like if it was standing infront of me” and yea. It’s not pretty.

[plucky hinge]

Go to Black Forest. Die on way to swamps. Die again. And again. And again.

[frozen void]

Well since you admitted to it im gonna leave you with a "verbal" warning and point at thr #fanart channel pins

[viral prairie]

I mean, I could definitely argue that description..

It is something I technically made

[frozen void]

The pins* no ai

[viral prairie]

Welp. I’ll take the warning

@queen wadi wouldn’t be made if I didn’t take the screenshots or type out the description lol

It’s all subjective

But I understand!

[chrome badge]

Instructing an AI to make something does not mean you've made it, to be very clear, especially true for original artwork. The heavy lifting here was done by the trained AI and the artists working on Valheim.

[viral prairie]

Like I said it’s subjective

[frozen void]

I was pretty sure from the first one, it was giving "valheim in unreal engine"

[chrome badge]

I would say that's an objective fact.

[viral prairie]

A personal opinion.

[viral prairie]

Like I said, no disrespect was intended. was just curious and that answered the question I had lol.

[static ruin]

it isnt subjective that this server doesnt allow it, though
#fanart message

[chrome badge]

I won't be sucked into this conversation much further, it's an opinion that you've made it, but I can be of the opinion that 2+2 actually equals 5 as well.

[viral prairie]

I never said it was. reread.

[static ruin]

my point is there isnt anything to argue about here

[viral prairie]

I’m not the one arguing I am simply responding 😁

I said I understand and I’d take the warning lol

[frozen void]

Here's a screenshot someone posted that i really liked

Heres me painting over it

[queen wadi]

Real

[static ruin]

that looks really nice larsi

[frozen void]

Anyway no reason to go after rondo any more. He took the warning on the chin and we can leave it at that

[viral prairie]

I understand, that looks amazing and I genuinely wouldn’t be able to recreate that. but I didn’t want a painted look. I simply wanted to see what it would look like in real life or a more realistic looking fashion. As the game has a retro feel that I simply love and it’s definitely one of the reasons I still play the game. Was just curious haha.

Didn’t know gifs were like that

[paper marsh]

I like it a bit. Vhard is way too much, but hard honestly feels pretty nice to me (also cool that it makes mobs faster, tho i don't think it's a big gameplay impact)

Most the challenge comes from optional challenges like permadeath tho

[tranquil sorrel]

Exactly my thoughts on AI especially with artwork. AI artwork should be called CRAP
Computer
Rendered
Artificial
Picture

[chrome badge]

Best to drop the topic in all fairness.

[frozen void]

I mean yeah i already said so lol

[prime moth]

#screenshots message

this is my favorite screenshot i've entered here i think

[chrome badge]

Yeah, just reiterating as they might've missed your message.

[deft brook]

Hey so…is it wrong for me to use console commands on my first play through?

[cyan rock]

guys, never EVER build a roof for your garden

[prime moth]

depends heavily on the context wanderer but i wouldnt

personally every time i use the console it destroys my feeling of intergrity in the game / world

[dull warren]

lol yeah it would be nice to have some kind of transparent roof so we could make functional greenhouses

[cyan rock]

bro I have spent 1 hour making roof

[deft brook]

I use it give me materials that are tedious to grab like wood usually (and ingots cause I’m lazy and get tired of doing stuff that I need to repeat)

[cyan rock]

and then I realized my crops are dead

[static ruin]

im with joebass that you shouldnt, but its your game and no one should tell you how to play it

valheim shines its best when youre exploring the hard way though, imho

[deft brook]

I do that either way and I heavily enjoy the sailing hope there’s more that gets expanded on that

[prime moth]

the grind makes the end result feel so much better

[opal prairie]

I would do your first playthrough as the developers intended and then for the next ones, do what ever you want.

[dull warren]

I disagree, there's better ways to make things more satifying to complete thatn just... making them take longer

[deft brook]

Okay, I’ll try not to use console commands for the rest of the game (though I REALLY don’t like having to track down my stuff when I die)

[dull warren]

The devs for this game seem to equate time taken with satisfaction, and I'm not a fan of that

[regal cave]

Dev commands. 🗣Dev commands. 🗣 build a fishing village if u want.

[deft brook]

I tend to abuse fly a lot and it makes me feel depressed when I do it cause…I die to the dumbest stuff

[dull warren]

Yeah I do sometimes. Between that and the drop multipliers, it's not that bad

[regal cave]

Time and place kind of thing. I dont always do things. Sometimes i like to

[deft brook]

I’ve died to mainly stuff that catch me off guard

[shadow finch]

90% of death in valheim loll

[dull warren]

And I gotta say, the dungeons are great, especially considering many of them have multiple stories and funky staircases and drops, and yet I've never been softlocked

That's quite impressive for procedurally generated dungeons

[deft brook]

Also give me tame able BEARS!!!

[deft brook]

Ye

[prime moth]

i guess i have not done massive scale builds yet but i cansee how harvesting mats could be less fun there

[cerulean star]

This is why early on I changed my game setting to casual death penalty. You keep your equipped gear. That way I still have to go back to get the rest of my stuff, but I don't have to try and run naked or craft backup gear. And plenty of times I had no weapon equipped when I died, so it was still more challenging than just using fly to get back there.

[deft brook]

Can you change that on the fly?

[dull warren]

At your pleasure before you load the game, yes, I do that with the drop rate, too

[deft brook]

And with saves you already have?

[dull warren]

Because I've spent enough time grinding for bloody iron already

[dull warren]

yep

[prime moth]

i heard a thing i thought was funny in a video the other day

turning the resource rate down instead of up to force you to play the game slow and change your mindset lol

i dont agree but i think the sentiment is interesting

[dull warren]

Yeah there's already enough grinding for a lot of mats

Spending fifteen hours endlessly hacking away at scrap piles is not my idea of a fun time

Now if they made some dungeons more challenging to fight through, with a large reward at the end, rather than nothing but pickaxing for half an hour every time, that would at least be more engaging

[chrome badge]

For you*

[opal prairie]

I get that, now that I'm on my like 6th playthrough or so, I have a few rules for myself about flying.
I can fly only when I do either a corpse run that has failed 3 times or more.
Have to traverse a zone or distance that I'm sure I can handle if I'd be doing it by land.
Can't fly to not explored areas.

[dull warren]

Well yes that is my opinion

[chrome badge]

I'm quite engaged with that system even 1500 hours into it.

[dull warren]

I'm rather certain not everyone shares it lol

[chrome badge]

Part of my enjoyment with building and crafting is utilizing things I've earned through efforts and time spent.

[dull warren]

I do find the combat fun and engaging, and the nice array of fantasy weapons as well

[plucky hinge]

OK, this is weird. I have a smelter and kiln inside a very large lean-to at my OG base. I can't seem to get them to fit in my new base. What do they require to be built?

[dull warren]

They need to be built on stone or earth

Or marble I think

[plucky hinge]

Oh. I must have slid a floor under them at my old base.

[static ruin]

ive put a... lot of hours into valheim, and i wound up turning the console off a long time ago

i just dont like having it even tempt me mid run

[dull warren]

Sometimes the ground will clip through the floor just enough to build on what looks like a wood floor

[chrome badge]

Yeah, you can sneak a stone foundation under a wood floor when you don't use snap points.

[prime moth]

the value of effort is gonna vary person to person for sure

[plucky hinge]

Yup, looks like that was it. I built the smelter in a corner without flooring, then slid wooden floor under it after.

Get creative with the snap points and rotate through until I get the right spot to lock.

[prime moth]

part of it is i think that when people are talking about the game, they tend to assume the effort put in is the same that other people have. and sometimes when you learn people haven’t put in the effort you thought they did it can feel weird

[dull warren]

It's not effort, per se. I just don't conflate "time spent" with "effort".

[prime moth]

i mean having to find and survive through 3 more crypts than you would have, imo, is qualifying

[chrome badge]

I don't think they were conflating that to be fair, time spent isn't exactly in need of mention there.

[prime moth]

walking through swamps and not dying to a higher density of mobs and stuff definitely takes effort

[static ruin]

nah i dont care what other people do in their games, i just know the the few times ive spawned items for myself its all been under flimsy justification and ultimately cheapened my own personal experience

i dont wanna police other people and i dont even mind guiding them through using those tools, i showed krom how to avoid spoilers on the seed gen site the other day but i dont use it terribly often

[dull warren]

Yeah and that part is fun

[prime moth]

yeah i mean ultimately it comes down to the player preference, which is good and what people should follow for themselves

i am just saying sometimes people make assumptions and that causes confusion

[deft brook]

I started using flight to get back to my body after the 7th death and the main time used it was to actually track down a swamp

[dull warren]

hehehe destroying an army of ticks with a sledge is just FUN

[static ruin]

makin strawberry jam

[prime moth]

one time i got to a swamp and realized i left my finewood behind on accident, so i spawned 20 because i was out of food and probably would get lost and die. shortly afterward I deleted the save because i felt bad and started over 😂

[static ruin]

goes great on toast