valheim-chat

[abstract warren]

Get a black metal atgeir as soon as you can

[steel mica]

Just dont rush in 😭

[dusky anvil]

That is the plan, but those are expensive. Very expensive

[abstract warren]

Yes but worth it

Then you can stagger even berserkers and loxes

[dusky anvil]

Does staying at a distance specifically to sneak attack enemies with the bow sound like rushing in to you?

[steel mica]

Even in Post-ashland gear I've had close calls ehen rushing a fully packed fuling camp

[steel mica]

THE HUNTSMAN BOW

[tacit crystal]

Many of the quits are caused of self inflicted issues that lead to deaths, as far as I see it. Such as staying out too late in current dangerous biome thus being cold, no rested bonus, low tier foods, no back up preparations etc.

[dusky anvil]

I still got overrun by 2 shamans, 2 normal, and 2 1 star shielded, all with either fire or torches

[steel mica]

What bow were you using

😭

[dusky anvil]

Poison bow, obsidian arrows

[steel mica]

THERES THE PROBLEM

[dusky anvil]

That's the latest gear

[abstract warren]

Yeah. Survival games require at least a little bit of diligence and understanding the basic mechanics

[dusky anvil]

The issue isn't the bow, it's that I am suddenly overran by enemies that specifically counter me

[storm sinew]

I remember back when i was first start playing, i was like "oh its just cold and wetness, it doesnt harm me" then i learned that when those 2 combined = slow stamina regen

Then by night mobs spawn rate are increased

[steel mica]

Use the huntsman bow and read the description of it

and compare to the draugr fang bow

I promise you it will help

[tacit crystal]

At least black forest grants many opportunities to learn proper crowd control for future biomes.

[steel mica]

You're job when doing fuling camp raids is picking off key targets

[steel mica]

The best introduction biome imo

[dusky anvil]

The description?

[tacit crystal]

Yes, those two slows also hp (and eitr) regen.

[steel mica]

stats

read it carefully

[dusky anvil]

"Finely worked and strung. A huntsman's joy"

[steel mica]

Should I just say it to him

[dusky anvil]

Spit it out already. Hearing you try to give advice is already painful enough without you beating around the bush

[abstract warren]

Nothing more satisfying than spinning with the atgeir while surrounded by a big bunch of greydwarfs

[tacit crystal]

Gotta give it to black forest as one of the most polished biomes in the game, addition of bears was very nice too.

[steel mica]

Huntsman has lower detection radius
meaning each bow shot can only attract enemies in iirc a 4meter radius compared to the other bows

[dusky anvil]

And the poison bow's detection radius being?

[steel mica]

same as the other bows with the exception of the huntsman

[tacit crystal]

Same as the others, 12m radius.

[steel mica]

I dont exactly remember the number but its bigger

It can make a difference

Space out the targets before taking the shot

[dusky anvil]

Hmmm, and how big is a meter here exactly?

[tacit crystal]

Not just can, it will.

[dusky anvil]

Either way, it makes a little sense

But I feel like trying to invest in the battleaxe was a trap

[steel mica]

Take out key targets, shaman, and beserkers

Shaman lure them away, same with beserker

You can fight them once its a 1v1

[dusky anvil]

That may take a while, either way

Died in the plains and more or less getting spawn camped

[steel mica]

Faster than attracting the whole village and getting killed

And going on a death loop

My only grit on plains is lox

[dusky anvil]

I'm saying that i would need to log back in, get to the corpse without getting killed by the skeeters, get all of my armor equipped, get out of there, then try that plan out

[steel mica]

Preparedness and backup is key for every new biome

[abstract warren]

Nah I think the battleaxes are great. Probably the best weapons against abominations and bears as well, until you get black metal atgeir and (one handed) axe, then they're probably no longer needed

[dusky anvil]

A lot easier to do when you have more than one harness

Either way, pretty burnt out for today

[steel mica]

Preparation

[dusky anvil]

I'll probably get to it tomorrow

[steel mica]

Preparation thats it

[dusky anvil]

Or whenever I play it again

[steel mica]

If you're still struggling on trying to get your gear back, you can tag me or others in #valheim-help

Going on a death spiral is no fun

I've been there

Were willing to help

[steel mica]

I honestly wouldn't use it in plains because of the shaman

But others struggle with deathsquito so its a trade off

either struggle with the sting sting or burn burn goblin

[tacit crystal]

[storm sinew]

Battleaxes are good ngl, but for me the only concern on those type of weapons are their swing

[steel mica]

After dn I plan on playing another fully fleshed out experience but with battleaxe as main weapon, I had a good grasp on the other weapon types but battleaxe is the only one im currently missing out on

Knives I've played a decent chunk off during my mistland progressions

[dusky anvil]

Part of why not the biggest fan of the biome

Right from the get go, it's a catch 22

[steel mica]

You'll get a consumable in this biome later on once you start making progression that wil invalidate the shaman

[dusky anvil]

Good to know. But doesn't exactly make this current situation any better

[steel mica]

Just dont wear it honestly

[storm sinew]

Sting sting? Deathsquito?

[steel mica]

Full silver gear can protect you well enough from a deathsquito sting

[steel mica]

Yes

[storm sinew]

Full silver gear or if you are saving the metals and dont want to spend them, root harnesk, with fenris leggings and a wolf helmet

[steel mica]

He is struggling with fuling camp so harnesk is a gg

One shaman can basically one tap you

[storm sinew]

True

[steel mica]

If you wear it

[storm sinew]

Only downside of root harnesk, FIRE

[steel mica]

Full silver or fenris can shrug off deathsquito stings

You'll take probably 3-4 stings before dead

with HHS diet

[storm sinew]

Wearing full fenris you will take more damage from squitos

Oh yeah unless you go hhs

[nocturne wolf]

If it's raining or there's water nearby wet can be used for early fire resistance

[steel mica]

Yeah but alot of experienced players run either vile or full fenris

[nocturne wolf]

but shooting shamans from a distance is always safe

[steel mica]

Fenris has decent fire resistance aswell

[steel mica]

This

[steel mica]

The problem is the guy wasnt spacing out shots and his targets so the entire village jumped him, doesn't help that he was using draugr fang bow

[storm sinew]

Just 1 arrow from the draugr fang will attract the whole peeps in that village

[steel mica]

4meter > 12meter

Extra if you space out the target

Its a guarantee kill on shaman and fulings with maxed out huntsman with poison arrow

[storm sinew]

Good thing im done with the plains biome (for now)

[tacit crystal]

It might take time to get used to the first swing of primary attack, but it's solid weapon against groups and bigger mobs too due to higher stagger multiplier for both attacks and primary attacks having no MTP.

[idle storm]

shamans move at a hobble. So even if you pull the entire village just kite the normal fulings away from the shaman and kill them first

and they always use the shield first so it's pretty much impossible to get surprised by one with a fireball

[steel mica]

My grandma could probably outpace a shaman 😅

But the regulars abd berserker yeah they can close in the distance decently fast

[storm sinew]

Speaking of fuling berserker, can a level 3 or higher black metal atgeir stagger a 2 star berserker?

or you need the next tier biome atgeir?

[steel mica]

Nope

2star is way too beefy

But they're pretty rare

I've only encountered like a few

[storm sinew]

Just found 1 in my first plains

and i ignored it and never attacked it again xD

after dying like 3 times

[steel mica]

Even with ashlands tier weapons even a 1star beserker can put ny stagger bar pretty high

[storm sinew]

Yep, 1 star alone is already annoying, 2 star is a complete nightmare

[nocturne wolf]

They take me longer to kill then I normally take for a whole fuling camp

[storm sinew]

You can pretty much take out like 2-3 camps before you kill a 2 star berserker

[steel mica]

They're very beefy even with ashland gear

Takes a decent amount of hits before dying

Im confident that the current ashland enhanced weapons can compete with future deep north weapons

Unless the deep north weapons can be enhanced aswell

[dusky anvil]

How much does the sting do again?

Vs things like fire DoT

Asking because if/when I play again, it will help me know what to prioritize for upgrades

[nocturne wolf]

Deathsquitos do 90 pierce

a shaman fireball is 20 blunt and 100 fire

[dusky anvil]

So how much does the vulnerability from harness make it?

By the way, if you're not busy, I could use some help retrieving my gear

[nocturne wolf]

with a root harnesk that will be 45 pierce and 150 fire

[dusky anvil]

Yeah, I'll make the armor

Could someone help me get back my gear and kill a village?

[vast wren]

sure, i can jump on

[clear comet]

the only way you can be safe in ashlands

is if you take over a fortress WITHOUT destroying the walls tbh

[idle storm]

not really? lava blobs can theoretically take down a terrain wall but you'd need a whole lot of them to actually make it a threat

or just release an army of asksvin around your base, that works too. Need to feed them occassionally so they regen health but 40-50 2-star asksvin make the immediate area very safe for a decent time

[solar quail]

Btw guys, I found one egg with '[item_newgameplusitem] 100' in its description, it did not stack with other chicken eggs. I do know that one of my friends is using QOL mods that we havent had any issues with. Could it be related to that? Ill add the picture to the screenshots.

[nocturne wolf]

The only ways I know to spawn NG+ items without mods is with the itemset command or by changing the whole world's NG+ level with commands, so it probably is a mod

I don't think there is an itemset with eggs, and I'm pretty sure a world's NG+ level is capped at 10

[open bolt]

Oof... Was doing a sunken crypt, and a draugr Elite 2 stars + a draugr 1 star spawned at the same time 💀💀

[warm depot]

Five years of developening, I am still asking to make an option for the Dragon Bed to have two people sleeping on it

No cuddles????!!

[solar quail]

Me and my friend were goofing around and we somehow managed to place bed down almost on same spot when we were placing beds down at the same time... well... except my face was sniffin his feet. So I guess that could be one way to sleep in same bed XD

[shut matrix]

Good morning peeps

[dusky anvil]

A bit late

[shut matrix]

I think my most requested thing has been the addition of NPCs that you can recruit to build an actual village up

I love the idea of running around the world and finding little camps and doing a little side quest for a villager and then you can add them as a follower and bring them to your village

[idle storm]

and then you get raided by bats and they either all die or destroy your base.

just imagine a wizard NPC in a wooden base... 😂

[steel mica]

Or just breed more

[mental thorn]

Hi Everyone! I was wondering if there is any chance to find Beta Tester Code for the Odin DLC. I'm aware that I could unlock the content in many different way, but still I'm interested if anyone has an available code by any chance. Please contact me! Thank you!

[storm sinew]

Mistlands is amazing 10/10

Saw 1 star seeker and just run and go high ground

[steel mica]

They fly fly so gl

[nocturne wolf]

Seeker flight uses attack triggers instead of a timer like moder so if they can't see you they won't start flying

[steel mica]

Im pretty sure they also only fly if in a certain distance from you

So climbing is still a good option to get away

Just be sure to go behind cover

[nocturne wolf]

they won't start flying if they're closer than 10m but can do it from up to 100m away
they also won't land if they're further than 5m

They can't see 100m so they'll never do it from that distance

but that's the number in their attack data

[steel mica]

Kinda funny seeing them fly around you trying to pathfind somewhere to land

[paper marsh]

I like swimming out in the ocean and having seekers chase me. Once they land they get stuck in the water moving at a snails pace

[steel mica]

Wish we could attack while on the water

[paper marsh]

Cant you punch while in water? Maybe I’m thinking of a different game

I do wish we could use knives and fist weapons in water tho

[nocturne wolf]

water unequips held items so you can still use bare fists

[paper marsh]

But fins of destiny still makes ocean quite useful in a fight

[storm sinew]

Do you have to upgrade your blackmetal pick or level 1 alone is already good?

[nocturne wolf]

you don't need to upgrade it but the durability will be useful

[unique shoal]

Good already, you get damage and durability if upgraded

[steel mica]

pick dmg aswell

[sharp owl]

If I wanted to raise my max Eitr. Is this strictly done by food, since armor seems to only affect regen?

And when you pick up magic, is there anything besides stuffed Mushroom you can go with? Not a Feast or a better dish I'm missing?

[open bolt]

There's a few recipes in the Mistlands. The feast is only after defeating the Mistlands boss. And in the next biome there's a few better foods too.

[tacit crystal]

Only by food you increase max eitr.

[tacit crystal]

Do you have cauldron upgraded to lvl 5?

[paper marsh]

Should be 3 Eitr dishes in mistlands giving a good amount of Eitr

[sharp owl]

lol, now that you said it, i was like "hm, why is it 4? I could have sworn it was 5" turns out the Butchering table was missing...

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, it will unlock new dishes acquired by collecting materials from Mistlands.

There will be 2 other eitr foods.

[idle storm]

seeker aspic and stuffed mushroom is your best bet until you get to ashlands

[sharp owl]

it just did. I'm really questioning myself how I had everything but the first upgrade for the cauldron... or 2nd if the spice rack was the first.

[idle storm]

unless you're swimming in sap and farming lots of barley for the porridge but 5 more eitr isn't really worth the effort

[sharp owl]

I have infinite Barley, but expanding on Sap extractors would be too much of a hustle, yeah.

[tacit crystal]

I would personally use stuffed mushroom and seeker aspic as my eitr foods, porridge is quite expensive and grants only 5 eitr more than mushroom.
-# Porridge is used for future feast tho.

[sharp owl]

porridge gives actually 5 less with the "harder" ingredients

[idle storm]

you tend to pick up more dvergr extractors as you go through mistlands so it's mostly a self-solving problem unless you don't explore much

[tacit crystal]

5 more than mushroom and 5 less than aspic.

[autumn iron]

i want teammates for playing vali

[sharp owl]

Yggrasil Porridge is 80, I'm lookin at it right now 😄

Aspic has 85

[tacit crystal]

Mushroom 75 and aspic 85.

[idle storm]

you generally want at least two eitr foods if you want to use magic as your main weapon

aspic is without question, the second one is between the mushroom and the porridge

[tacit crystal]

Personally I would go with mushroom and aspic.

Due to porridge being more "expensive".

[sharp owl]

atm I actually try to cast bubble, open with a bow shot, throw 2 fireballs and stagger stuff with the Atgeir and repeat.

probably not that efficient as going all in on one "build" but hella fun.

[idle storm]

porridge has the advantage that it doesn't need baking, so once i have the sap production (and most of my eitr refining done) i generally switch over

[idle storm]

actually pretty valid in mistlands to start building your elemental magic skill

and the staff of embers is great for taking out ticks and seeker brood in infested mines even if you melee otherwise

[sharp owl]

but I just read that bloodmagic rather levels when the bubble popps. So I probably won't level at all like this, if I don't use Skeletons?

[tacit crystal]

You gain xp for blood magic skill when bubble breaks and when your summoned skellies hit targets.

[storm sinew]

I just found my new nemesis in mistlands

[sharp owl]

yeah, so using the bubble on myself is effective in terms of "winning the game" lol
but not when it comes to lvling up the school, it seems.

[storm sinew]

Those ticks are so annoying

1st death in mistlands

[paper marsh]

Get used to rolling

Ticks see you rolling, they hatin'

[tacit crystal]

Or Root Harnesk. 🙌

[storm sinew]

Accidentally destroying my cart in a dvergr area and make them mad, so if you construct anything and destroy it by use of weapons they will think its theirs and they will get mad?

[idle storm]

the ward only cares that something was damaged. And the dvergr only care about the ward being triggered, not why.

[paper marsh]

If it's on their property, surely it's their cart. HEY! THAT VIKING BROKE OUR CART

[foggy glacier]

the ward just alerts if anything is attacked within it's area of influence.

[earnest field]

sailed to a swamp but it's so swamp there are no crypts, fortunately I know a second one

[silk token]

if you find bonemass and still struggling for crypts, go directly to that swamp i always find it packed

[earnest field]

alright, thanks

the one I am in has a crypt and a surtling spawner so it's decent, it's pretty big so there for sure will be more

2 star draugr archer, how fantastic

[dark coyote]

How many 2* draugr archers does it take to kill each boss?

[frozen fable]

You can either dodge roll the arrows or block with shield

[gray cairn]

Man, I haven't played in a while and these bears sure do make black forest so much more dangerous.

They're worse than trolls

[chrome badge]

Just one, the chosen one.

[dark coyote]

Ulf 😮

[earnest field]

The surtling spawner generate almost entirely covered by water, they just die, I didn't even have to dig around it

so many cores for free

[abstract warren]

Is it possible to change my character's name without altering the save file?

Like with a mod or something?

[barren breach]

Hi everyone! I know this might be super random, and I apologize for interrupting any other conversations, I am not active on this server. I just wanted to say a massive thank you to the developers for adding decor items like fairy lights to the game. I just got back to my solo world to distract myself from my very recent breakup and being able to decorate like this is really helping.

[granite grail]

It was sooo hard at first haha. But now I feel chill just going through it at like 80 health if it so happens like that, and I can clear a crypt solo, no fear. Swamp is actually harder than the mountains unless you're hunted by wolves. For mountains, just upgrade your silver sword and be aware of your surroundings at all times. I'm in the plains now, and I'm much calmer there, still die plenty tho. I mean I die plenty anyway 😂

But you absolutely need to play the game with others if you want to get all the way through. I would have quit if I had to do it all by myself lol. It makes a huge difference having a friend who's always willing to go with you on your corpse runs because usually the enemies that killed you will still be in the vicinity, so a friend there to kill them is so helpful. Also helps with morale in the game to be able to share the trials. (Yes I acknowledge that many players beat the game entirely solo and hats off to them, but I'm just saying players are less likely to quit when it's a team effort lol)

[earnest field]

I was a little intimidated by the swamp abomination at first. But that damn dumb thing can hardly aim correctly half the time. The crypts are pretty okay since you decide when the paths are gonna open

[frozen fable]

i just killed an abomination while fighting Bonemass

[granite grail]

Bro my friends love killing abominations, and I'm the only one that just wants them to leave me alone, but guess who they tend to spawn in front of the most 😂

but a neat trick is if there's a surtling core spawner nearby, the abominations will walk into the fire pathing to you and you can kill them that way

[earnest field]

If they didn't have that bow resistance they'd be a joke.
Still love my hunstman bow though, first thing I did was craft it and upgraded it. And the shield too

[granite grail]

I rock the Draugr Fang it's amazing

[earnest field]

I just love all the bows and using them.
I also got pretty lucky with 2 abominations almost back to back, so I have the root harnesk before completely clearing a crypt

[frozen fable]

if you ever get an abomination spawn on you while fighting Bonemass, just focus on the abomination first, Bonemass isn't the real problem when that happens

kill the abomination quickly though

[earnest field]

I've been thinking for a few days that milk would be a great addition to the food variety. Imagine how many different foods you could make with that

[granite grail]

but you'd like....need cows or goats XD

which feels really weird for Valheim

[nocturne wolf]

the only biome that needs more food is mountains

[earnest field]

I had lox in mind, they are pretty cow like

[granite grail]

milking a lox would be wild 😂😭 but that makes sense I guess

but I think of them more like bison

[granite grail]

Yeah, all the other midgame biomes have edible food that grows straight off the ground

[lone rampart]

Oxen, to be precise; it’s in the name 😅

[nocturne wolf]

that's not the problem, mountains only has one good health food (wolf skewer)

so anyone using two health foods will likely have sausages too, which is from swamp

or serpent meat/stew which can be unreliable to obtain

[light moat]

Wrong! Deep North needs food

[shy marlin]

didn't we decide on scooby doo snacks

[light moat]

I must’ve missed that memo

[shy marlin]

oh it just happened today

#general message

[light moat]

Ahh nice! Yeah I can get on board with a scooby snack providing the most powerful stats in the game

[dark coyote]

why am I eating and drinking (and dyeing) if I'm dead?

[near furnace]

https://giphy.com/gifs/scoobydoo-cartoon-scooby-doo-26DMVA1ArEk3TOrte

[honest frigate]

The armor is kinda like terraria

With the set bonus and mixing also why is root harnessek so broken

[chrome badge]

It's pierce resist bonus is strong, but ever since Iron Brooch was added, I haven't used the root set.

[earnest field]

any suggestions for finding Haldor? I am out of luck so far

[tepid prawn]

Try finding more Elder vegvisir in directions you haven't explored in yet, he is a bit more likely to hang out near an Elder location in a Black Forest area there, and the other Elder locations will guarantee if you sail there, that there is definitely a Black Forest biome around it.

[cinder dirge]

is early axes good just made it

[merry pebble]

I have pretty much heard only positive things about them 🙂

[dark coyote]

op in the meadows

[cinder dirge]

ok im in iron age so there useless ?

[tacit crystal]

No, I still use them in swamp.

[light moat]

Sounds like they’re pretty powerful 🤔

[sleek sky]

Well they allow you to skip copper and iron axe since they can chop the same trees

So u can get finewood in meadows

[shy marlin]

people made iron axe? 👀

[tacit crystal]

Yes.

[frozen fable]

I made Iron Axe, it is still good until Blackmetal

[near furnace]

I like the iron axe since it has alot of durability which the bronze one doesn't have

[steel mica]

iron axe has a bit more chop dmg 59 at Q4 vs early axes 4Q 44

But early axes is way faster than iron axe

[shy marlin]

I've always done bronze axe --> iron battleaxe --> cba --> blackmetal axe

[near furnace]

cba 😄

[shy marlin]

Since battleaxes are better woodchopper then 1h axes 👀

[glad patrol]

I find it incredible how absolutely terrible crossbows are. Statistically they SUCK

[shy marlin]

I think it's more of a reflection of how strong bows are

[jagged wind]

well.. crossbows are better snipers

they fire more straight with better velocity and more dmg per shot

[glad patrol]

• low level scaling
• no block armor
• slowest, most resource heavy skill leveling (1 xp per bolt LOL)
• only 50% faster reload at lvl 100 compared to bows 80%
• cant even jump while reloading

a few of my main gripes

[shy marlin]

Yea I'd touch up the xp per bolt if it were me

[glad patrol]

Me too, and i really want jump while reloading too

So you can actually do trickshots and have a little mobility while loading

[shy marlin]

it'd certainly be nice qol

i'd also really enjoy being able to store a bolt and have it on my back and not have to constantly have it out 👀

[steel mica]

Theres some issues with crossbow since its always been my go to for range

The dmg is just fat as hell on regular enemies not resistant to pierce

[tacit crystal]

Hmm, noticed since the celebratory update the performance during mountain storm is much better.

[steel mica]

What about ash storms?

[storm sinew]

Hello, how can you guys determine if that spot has an infested mine?

[shy marlin]

same for ash storm in my experience

[steel mica]

sweet

[tacit crystal]

Haven't tested that, but ashlands felt overall smoother experience.

[shy marlin]

There's 2, you look for rocks that have 3 spikes pointing out, or you look for a dvergr settlement has a black marble roof

[steel mica]

Ash storm and blizzards were the thing thats been lagging me every time I go to these biomes

[shy marlin]

Either way, just listen for seekers, if you hear a lot of seekers, odds are there is an infested mine

[tacit crystal]

If you get jumped by more than 2 seekers at once, then chances are high for infested mine.

Similarly how encountering 5 ticks without gjall tells there is skull nearby.

[steel mica]

The infested mine should be noticable any way since theres 2 wisp lights at the stairs

guiding the player

But apart from that look for the rocks

[tacit crystal]

For the spikes entrance there is usually wisplights, but not for dvergr building one.

[steel mica]

The best course of action in the mistlands is GO UP THE ROCKS

[storm sinew]

Ok, thanks for the info
Also i encountered my first gjall last night and it was a nightmare

[steel mica]

seriously it will help you in the long run

as it can give you a general idea on what direction to go

and spot and POIs

[storm sinew]

Yeah a lot of helpful tips in reddit saying go up top high to get better view of the mistlands

[steel mica]

Many refuse to go up the rocks because "too rocky"

or mountainous

[storm sinew]

I mean is kinda rocky and difficult if you are wearing full heavy, also Gjall's spawning ticks is annoying

I was like why this gjall's so beefy and my arrows dont work against it, then i noticed its exposed organs at the bottom and found out thats its weakness

Dealing like 100+ damage per arrow with level 4 huntsman bow

[steel mica]

They are like the trolls of the mistlands

[storm sinew]

Also the horn sound telling you a gjall is near you is terrifying and you cant avoid looking at the misty clounds above you

[solemn crown]

Status Update: the Atgeir is bloody awesome.

[slow flicker]

Huntsman bow in mistlands is absolutely wild. I've never used it past the mountains after getting the duergar bow(or however it's spelled)

[storm sinew]

Well i have plans on swapping it to get the sap bow or something (idk whats the spelling)

[loud frost]

is the vilebone set... bad? I am terrified to enter the mistlands with it when plains enemies still obliterate me as fast as they do

[idle storm]

it's great if you don't get hit a lot

[shy marlin]

it's not bad, it's designed to be a glass cannon type armorset, where your defense is offense

[steel mica]

Oh its great if you dont get hit

[loud frost]

I feel the fenris set was better

[steel mica]

Its a high rish high reward set

[loud frost]

despite being a lower tier

[idle storm]

or you wait until Mistlands and use the bubble staff to negate the weakness

[slow flicker]

You should be using the duergar bow in mistlands until you unlock and make the spinesnap bow. Using a huntsman that has just pierce damage you're only handicapping yourself

[tacit crystal]

Or Crystal heart or Bonemass power.

[solemn crown]

But not awesome enough to fight a bear.

[tacit crystal]

It has very strong bonuses but like pointed out it's more of like glass cannon set.

[idle storm]

either way as long as you can manage the damage weakness 40% more stamina regen and 20% more damage is a huge buff

[storm sinew]

Yeah, when mistlands is the land of you dont know there are enemies that is already following you

[tacit crystal]

Consider heavy helmet paired with the chest and loincloth for good armor and no movement speed penalty.

[loud frost]

I'm considering just dipping back into the fenris set for the speed

[idle storm]

the lower armor is just as bad as vilebone's damage weakness

[loud frost]

I suppose it balances out

[idle storm]

also ratatosk mead is cheap 😋

[loud frost]

ratatosk my goat

[shy marlin]

literally more movement speed than the entire fenris set

[loud frost]

new biomes scary

[idle storm]

i love fenris but 9% movement speed is no contest vs that stam regen

[loud frost]

I'm just going to waste the iron and make padded

[storm sinew]

Rocking fenris set with ratatosk and you are zooming

[shy marlin]

Add moder power

[storm sinew]

I'm gonna use padded when traversing the infested mines cause i dont trust myself in surviving the mines with fenris

[idle storm]

nimble anklet gives a pretty big boost too. 15% i think?

[shy marlin]

sounds about right

[loud frost]

I'll see how vilebone in mistlands plays out but if I get abused by enemies I've never seen before I'm putting on the padded

[solemn crown]

I wouldn't mind the bear, if it wasn't for the little bastard gremlins that show up to join in the fun.

[tacit crystal]

And ||ask cape||.

[storm sinew]

You are now like Bolt the dog, zoom zoom

[idle storm]

as long as you use a shield the damage weakness is negligible

and actually block of course

[loud frost]

and if I put on the padded I'm going back to my good ol reliable sword and board

[shy marlin]

yea if you're learning a biome I wouldn't go into it using a giga offensive armorset

[loud frost]

everything up until mistlands was mentally conquered but the fear factor of an unknown biome is strong

[idle storm]

personally i tend to mostly die when i run out of stam. so vilebone is pretty good for my survival too

[slow flicker]

Or just make the carapace armor. I'm starting to think you might just be a glutton for punishment and intentionally handicap yourself lol

[storm sinew]

You are not alone, when im traversing and hear just an insect sound, i look left and right right away for any bugs xD

[idle storm]

2 of 3 seeker attacks do pierce damage as do ticks so the root harnesk is still a valid choice

[storm sinew]

Well you need to go the mines to get the thingy first before you can craft the ||Black Forge|| right?

[slow flicker]

Ahh yea you do need black cores for the black forge

[tacit crystal]

No ash storm in sight but audio issue is nowhere to be found.

[idle storm]

and if you don't mind abusing ooze bombs clearing your first infested mine isn't too difficult

[slow flicker]

That's what sledges are

[loud frost]

also, do I even need to beat the plains boss to access any of the mistlands resources? it doesn't seem like I do?

[storm sinew]

Yeah you do, you will gain access to the wisp to help you out

[loud frost]

I mean, it helps sure but its not like I need a key for the dungeons the same way the elder works right?

[storm sinew]

Yep

[slow flicker]

Yes cause you need wisplight to navigate the mistlands. If you think a foggy day in the meadows is bad you haven't seen poor visibility yet lol

[loud frost]

very well then I probably shouldn't handicap myself

[slow flicker]

Yes you do need a key for the queen. To be more specific you need fragments of a seal breaker to open her tomb

[storm sinew]

Well you are gonna do that if you want to beat the queen, as for me, no plans on defeating her, because of the raid she will give you

[cosmic summit]

Anyone else really dislike plains?

[slow flicker]

If you don't defeat the queen it makes it a little difficult to move into ashlands

[slow flicker]

Only biome I really dislike is the swamp but that goes for any game with a swamp area. I'm just not a fan of swamps lol

[cosmic summit]

Music is dull and makes me sleepy. Mosquitoes are annoying, lox are so blind its hard to get them to eat, but if they do happen to see you they'll chase you all the way to Russia and back while leveling everything in their path

[idle storm]

The wisplight is very optional. There are enough mist-free areas around that the only time you HAVE to run through the mist is for the citadel and you get a map marker for that.
Mines and dvergr towers are common enough in mist-free areas.

[abstract warren]

Yeah the game definitely feels a lot easier with people and can be more fun. I do enjoy solo very much though, as frustrating as it can be sometimes. I'm currently in mistlands for the first time and just unlocked all the eitr stuff and it's great

[tacit crystal]

My friend loves the plains because of raiding fuling villages and no mining required as she dislikes mining.

[slow flicker]

The no mining aspect of plains is the best part about it. Love wiping out entire fulling villages to get black metal

[storm sinew]

Does frost arrows stock with draugr fang, like does it do double effect or just simply poison?

[tacit crystal]

Gotta say, it's a fresh change really. And addition of Viles and blackmetal battleaxe made it even better.

[slow flicker]

It's stacks

[slow flicker]

Love the black metal axe. Wish there was a black metal sledge though cause sledge is king in every biome

[storm sinew]

Ok cool, thank you 🙂

[slow flicker]

Welcome

[slow flicker]

You could also do silver arrows and get spirit damage+poison damage as an option too

[tacit crystal]

My wish for sledge would be having proper primary attack moveset.

[light moat]

#suggestions message

support for sledge combos!

[slow flicker]

What do you mean by proper primary attack moveset? It's a giant hammer that swings around and hits everything

[tacit crystal]

3 hit combo I mean.

[slow flicker]

There is a 3 hit combo, 2 regular swings then the slam with middle mouse button or whatever the equivalent is for console

[light moat]

Hm? That’s not the case 🤔

[tacit crystal]

2 handed hammer has only ground slam attack.

[slow flicker]

Which one are you referring to? Cause I know the iron sledge has two regular attacks plus ground slam. Same goes for the mistlands version

And staghammer

[tacit crystal]

Are you using mods by chance?

In vanilla there is only the slam attack for all 2 handed hammer weapons, no other attack move sets.

[paper marsh]

Yeah 2 handed hammers only have one attack in vanilla

[slow flicker]

Nope never used mods and been playing since release. Pretty sure they have swinging attack

[paper marsh]

They don't

1h hammers (maces) do tho

[tacit crystal]

No they don't.

[storm sinew]

They dont have swing attack only the big ground attack that is very useful for first time chambers and crypts

[paper marsh]

Funnily enough chambers and crypts (and other dungeons) are the only place I wouldn't use the hammers 😅

But I very rarely use them in the first place anyways

[oblique zinc]

Maybe if you mount a dragon egg and smash it with 2h hammer baby dragon pops out. Baby drake

[shy marlin]

and then moder swoops on by and demolishes ya gg

still think it would be giga cool if every once and a while there was a moder model (purely visual) flying around on a mtn that has a moder veg

[open bolt]

but then before the fight it would make more sense if she appears flying from the sky haha
(instead of just appearing out of nowhere, like the other bosses)

[paper marsh]

Yeah only Queen doesn't

[light moat]

||Fader?|| 👀

[paper marsh]

Hmm, different spawn animation for sure

I'd say that counts. Good find!

[smoky sail]

Is there any way I can join a server?

I’m on pc

[paper marsh]

Look around in #1024264966712340510 for anyone with a server you'd like to join

[steel mica]

noice

[shy marlin]

if you summon her she does appear out of thin air btw, but yea first time that isn't the case

[storm sinew]

I got lucky on the first mistland i found it has the queen spawn cave

[gleaming shuttle]

can i join to anyone's world? whos playing atm?

[flat pivot]

Mace/Hammer is a nice combo since it's the same weapon skill

[wary kettle]

Is there any point to making a black metal axe aside from faster woodcutting and higher durability? Debating if I need to replace my iron axe

[flat pivot]

yes you do

[steel mica]

Not a replace, you are required to

[flat pivot]

there wil be trees that need the blackmetal axe

[wary kettle]

Thank you both

[flat pivot]

I actually skip the iron axe

[steel mica]

Early axe is good enough

Plus faster swing and recovery speed

[flat pivot]

even before, bronze cuts every tree that iron does

[steel mica]

You can invalidate every single axe till plains

Early axe is all you need

Or bronze if you cant find the axe heads

[wary kettle]

Appreciate the help yall. I will make it then. I am currently rocking a fully upgraded silver sword. Is it safe to assume that the black sword is better?

[flat pivot]

depends

silver is usually better vs. undead

against anything else, yeh blackmetal sword

[storm sinew]

Killed a gjall it drops the trophy in the river

[flat pivot]

you can skip it if you're using an atgeir in the plains tho

ofc skipping weapons is only if you don't want to grind materials

[wary kettle]

I have not tried using an atgeir yet. I alternate between silver sword, iron mace, and draugr fang

[flat pivot]

you want at least one of the aoe weapons, so either hammer or atgeir

if you're using maces anyway, Frostner is VERY strong

[wary kettle]

Ok. I will likely swap out my silver sword for black, and my mace for either the black atgeir or the frostner since i already have that buried in a box somewhere lol

[honest frigate]

is 22 stacks of iron enough?

[flat pivot]

Aetgir is nice since its heavy attack stuns and knocks back anything in a pretty wide circle, great for crowd control. takes a bit of practice since it uses a lot of stamina

It also destroys Loxes

[storm sinew]

Is the entrance outside the infested mines safe to build the portal there?

[honest frigate]

yeah i love atgeir

[flat pivot]

depends on the entrance, the big stairs? kinda, but the one with the little bunker are safer

[storm sinew]

The one with the black murble bunker and the entrance to the mines is downstairs

[flat pivot]

yeh. if you have 2 iron, you can build a stonecutter inside to remodel it. if you place a black marble pyramid corner in the entrance, it acts like a dragons tooth. you can easily jump inside, but the seekers cant crawl past it

ofc once you build a workbench, no new seekers will spawn there

[chrome badge]

Acts like a dragons tooth?

🤔

[flat pivot]

yeh, dragon teeth are those spiky concrete anti-tank fortifications

[chrome badge]

What in the heck are you on about? 😅

[flat pivot]

you can use the black marble pyramid corners like that. they block mobs, but you can hop past them

[chrome badge]

So you'll have a pile of mobs to jump into, good idea.

[flat pivot]

?

no, you have a safe building to retreat into and rest, portal away, etc

[chrome badge]

Am I crazy? Just killing the mobs is far better.

Or yknow, a door.

[flat pivot]

doors are a lot weaker than marble

[chrome badge]

But they also lose visual.

[flat pivot]

Yes, you can do a lot of building around a mine entrance, I'm talking about a quick remodeling with existing black marble

build a cattle-trap bridge for all i care

[chrome badge]

Yeah, I'd just sooner kill the couple mobs that might be around than remodel anything.

[flat pivot]

cool, you do you

[chrome badge]

No need for anti-tank fortification.

I am doing me, which is also why I am questioning the things you're suggesting. 🙃

[shy scarab]

when you die, is there a timer on when your loot despawns?

[shy marlin]

your grave is permanently there

[cinder dirge]

we bouta fight the bone mass

[viscid wigeon]

Gl

[cinder dirge]

we found a leviathan and got some chitlin scary asf

[silk token]

so good the first time the island you're on goes RRRRRRrrrrrr...

[cinder dirge]

that was the scariest part then it went under water.....

is chitlin good

[silk token]

isn't that the soul food stuffed in a pig intestine?

[cinder dirge]

a shell looks like

i unlocked like a knife and a dagger from it

[silk token]

hehe yeah, chitin. i was just making a joke cuz "chitLin" is a food

[cinder dirge]

ohh haha

[silk token]

the dagger is strong like iron level strength-ish. the harpoon lets you drag friendly or hostile mobs

[cinder dirge]

we just beat that giant boggey is the wish bone good

[chrome badge]

Good? It's a key item, I'm not sure what you're asking.

It helps with progression. 😛

[cinder dirge]

yeah it says it finds hidden treaures not sure how to find the treasure

[chrome badge]

Other boss drops have been useful in the next biome right?

[slate glacier]

there is no such thing as too much iron. for a solo run, 22 stacks should last you a while.
oops, just realized I didnt check when that was sent. sorry for the random ping 90m later

[sharp owl]

Is there some kind of money sink?

[paper marsh]

I like to sink my money into squirrel hamstrings from bog witch

[shy marlin]

Barrels

they take up huge amounts of my gold bcuz of cosmetic reasons

[sharp owl]

so consumables from traders are still good later on?

[shy marlin]

yea, bog witch has lots of good things to buy in terms of mechanics

[silent sable]

hey guys

im a new player and im gonna ask something, i searched iron can be found in swamp. before i go to swamps what should i do whats important to not to die

[storm sinew]

Bring your hoe tool, its gonna be your bestfriend while traversing in the swamp

[shy marlin]

Poison resistance mead and black forest tier food

[silent sable]

black forest tier food? sorry i dont understand it

[shy marlin]

yea so like, deer stew, carrot soup, queens jam, etc

stuff you make at the cauldron

[honest frigate]

any reply is good yeah im doing solo

[slow flicker]

Umm you put it on and follow the pings in the mountains. Stronger the ping and flashing light the closer you are to a silver vein but you gotta dig for it

[cosmic summit]

Soooo fishing kinda fun

[storm sinew]

Also make sure you hit it and mark it up on your map, because the wish bone wont stop pinging that specific vein until you smack it like once with a pickaxe

[cinder dirge]

i just planted 300 carrot seeds how many carrots we guessing i get

[cosmic summit]

Never tried it before, now im thinking of building a fishing hut in every biome haha

[cosmic summit]

687

[cinder dirge]

how you get fishing rod

[cosmic summit]

And a half

[cinder dirge]

687 ill remeber that

[cosmic summit]

Buy it from haldor

[storm sinew]

You get fishing rod either from buying on haldor or in a frost cave

[cinder dirge]

haldor ? no idea i only just killed bonemass

[cosmic summit]

PW

[cinder dirge]

?

[storm sinew]

There are merchants in the game that spawn ||haldor in black forest|| ||hildir in black florest but nearby is a plains biome || then ||bogwitch that spawns in swamp|| due note that there are multiple spawns of these guys, once u find them, the other spots on which they can spawn will be remove

[silk token]

the raven tells you of a trader who wanders the woods when you enter the black forest

[cinder dirge]

ah i turnt raven off cant lie hahah

[silk token]

ughhh. then im just gonna say SCRaWwWwW! when you ask a question the bird tells you 😂

[uneven horizon]

haven't played in ~6 months. Did one of the recent patches make animations/movement smoother (engine upgrade maybe) or is it just placebo?

[cinder dirge]

why does fermenter take so long

[storm sinew]

Fermenter takes 2 in game days to ferment the mead you want to turn it into a potion

[cinder dirge]

i made potions went to use it without knowing it needs to be fermented waiting ages for it now

[silk token]

there was a graphics performance overhaul that did a bunch of stuff good for lower end machines

[cosmic summit]

I make mead irl and it literally takes months

[cinder dirge]

you make frost resistance mead irl

respect the grind

[cosmic summit]

Build at least 5 fermenters

[uneven horizon]

Nice change. I'll be honest, i've gotten more than my money's worth and have over 1000 hours, but I'd be lying if I said the game wasn't an absolute jankfest

[cinder dirge]

im rich in everything rn sept birch wood takes so long

[cosmic summit]

No I made blueberry orange mead, strawberry mead, and apple cinnamon mead

[storm sinew]

5 fermenters? is that a bit much or unless you are like multi tasking all the meads you need?

[cinder dirge]

my main goal rn is just frost resistance my next biome is the mountains

so feel like ima need that

[cosmic summit]

Idk. I just like cooking the must in 5 stacks

Must is unfermented wine btw

[cosmic summit]

Also it looks cool having a basement full of huge barrels

[cinder dirge]

make me a basement

me and building do not mix

[cosmic summit]

Just dig a pit and line the sides with stone

[cinder dirge]

havnt built out of stone yet im dreading it

[shadow oxide]

Anybody with mods available to help me level a spot next to spawn?

[chrome badge]

So we're outsourcing cheating now. 😅

[shadow oxide]

Lol. Yep.

[shy scarab]

do i use blueberries to summon the elder

[west sentinel]

No 3 ancient seeds

[open bolt]

that would be very funny tho.. using foods to summon bosses. like a summoning "gift". "gift them with their favorite foods and they will come"

[burnt glen]

Dragon eggs?

[cinder dirge]

im crazy in love with queens jam is there a queen jams boss (serious answers only)

[burnt glen]

uhh not really I'd say

[cinder dirge]

🙁

[safe flower]

once you get the frost cape, the wolf one, do you even need frost resist anymore?

[sharp owl]

How do you "scout" Mistlands most efficiently? Is it more worth your time to just check the coast and move on?

[slow flicker]

Climb the rocks and go up high

[sharp owl]

did that with the jump mead, however elevation doesn't really help in that biome with no view distance

ngl introducing "difficulty" but cutting into visibility was a bad concept whenever it was tried.

[slow flicker]

It helps you get a better idea of where you need to go especially if you have a wisplight. If you're in mistlands without a wisplight you're handicapping yourself

[sharp owl]

ofc I have a wisplight 😄

[slow flicker]

Then yea just go up high. You're not going to have perfect visibility like you would in any other biome but you will be able to get a better idea of where to go for mines, dverger camps, etc...

[sharp owl]

While every biome certainly had it's charm. Mistlands is just a tedious process tbh. Fighting the bugs is actually fun, while traversing is not.

I also have 15 fragments for the boss, while i collected 11 cores. Roughly 1,5 cores per mine.

[steel mica]

You need to pay more attention to the surrounding when up on the rocks

Its not just a "oh im up here now where the POIs"

You gotta spot them more carefully

[sharp owl]

I know, and I find every spot per continent. The thing is that the biome is just boring.

which is also reflected by the customer in terms of mod selection.

[vast lily]

Waiting for the news to come out.

[slow flicker]

What news?

[vast lily]

Word from the devs. Usually news for Deep north.

[slow flicker]

You mean the 30 second teaser video that doesn't really show much and gives no real update on an expected release date?

[vast lily]

Yep, with vlog.

[steel mica]

iirc they made a release date for ashlands which pressured them to speed things up, look what that got us

I respect the devs for taking it a bit more slowly this time making sure things are what they want

[slow flicker]

Keyword in that is EXPECTED never said a definitive release date. It has been over a year now since they announced the deep north and we've gotten very little information about it.

I appreciate that they're taking their time with it but releasing tiny tidbits of information every few months is maddening

[atomic jasper]

Anyone knows a Server side only mod that adds inventory slots for weapon armors and ammo?

[steel mica]

Fair point but I rather get something really great out of it than what happened to ashlands

And also knowing the fact that its the last major biome/update

[slow flicker]

Yea I definitely want something better than what we got with ashlands. But a little more information would be nice. These teaser trailers don't really have the hype behind them that ashlands or mistlands had. Which is odd considering this is the last biome update

[steel mica]

Only time will tell 🤔

[lusty dirge]

That's impossible, a server-only mod cannot do that

[slow flicker]

Question is how much more time?

[steel mica]

That is up to the devs

[slow flicker]

Obviously

[flat pivot]

is it?

[open bolt]

I was reminded of how cool the Howling Cavern music is.

[rotund crown]

Hey guys i have been wanting to get into valheim and i have kinda completed half the game witha friend but i havent got anyone to play with it has been boring always alone i want to get into a multiplayer server where someone would guide and take some time to play with a group if possible please i am from india if the ping is an issue

if anyone has a group or server i can join that i can have a clan to survie with would greatly appreciate it

[tacit crystal]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 might have you covered. 👍

[idle eagle]

#1024264966712340510 you should visit there 👍

[rotund crown]

i cant find what i am looking for 🥲

[near furnace]

I do hope it's up to us developers when we will release the updates

[flat pivot]

Well, I just assumed that with the 1.0 release, the publisher has some influence too, that's all

[near furnace]

usually yes. but not for us

[flat pivot]

ooh, nice

[near furnace]

our publisher don't carry the weight to force us to "get it out"

[flat pivot]

I was actually thinking in the other direction, that the update is done way before the release, what with Valheim also coming to new platforms.

[near furnace]

well. nintendo and Ps5 are not done in house.
we make the game, and our friends over at piktiv adapts our code for those consoles

[flat pivot]

Dayum, so many ppl getting to play it for the first. time. lk jealous

[near furnace]

mhm

alot of people either buy the game now when it's cheap. and wait for 1.0

or they wait for 1.0 and buy it (wishlistning)

[open bolt]

Still no cultist trophy T_T

[sharp owl]

I haven't gotten a single raid since around Day 80, while it's day 319. It keep showing me the raid alert messages but nothing ever shows up

Is it possible that all the tamed Lox standing all over the place are blocking the spawns?

[storm sinew]

I don't think tamed creatures block the spawns of the raids, its probably the structure that you put in the place where your lux are like workbenches

[idle storm]

I feel your pain. Just completed my second stack of celestial feathers. Still no valkyrie trophy for me.

[pulsar mortar]

Workbenches likely prevent that, my castle is surrounded by 50 of them.

[storm sinew]

50 workbenches? I mean ngl, i would probadly do the same when to the point when you are in pre-mistlands or pre-ashlands where raids at that point are the worst

Maximum security at your kingdom 🫡

[pulsar mortar]

Well with friend we spend about 4 months doing it. Huge walls with benches inside, with maximum support and height to keep mosquitos away, huge stone manor with flametal support and wizard tower on top of those plains pillars.

So we went a bit autistic with defenses

Heh, typical Imperial Fist's fans

[storm sinew]

What are like the first 5 items you guys gonna craft from the black forge?

[flat pivot]

You mean after crafting the Feather Cape immediately? Depends 🤷‍♂️

Arbalest, full Carapace Armor and a shield

[pulsar mortar]

Cape, mistwalker, armor and shield

[tiny tiger]

Oooo

Big portal

[terse raft]

Words for the players :

[gray sand]

Cape

[storm sinew]

I was about to craft my feather cape and then im missing like 3 eitr

[fair olive]

End of Hervor Bloodtooth but no public ptb 💔

Got kinda excited till I saw the "in the months to come" part

[burnt glen]

aha same

[old flint]

So no release date anywhere?

[frozen fable]

Feather cape, Mistwalker, Carapace Shield and armor

[merry pebble]

Nope, but we are seemingly more than few months away

[fair olive]

We'll know when we get the ptb

It'll be like a month or so after the ptb for full release

Most likely

[gray sand]

They may not do a ptb.

[chrome badge]

Fairly certain there's not going to be a ptb for 1.0, it'd make any marketing difficult to do.

[fair olive]

Surely they do right?

I guess so actually

[gray sand]

Surely they don't because spoilers 🤔

[burnt glen]

We'll just have to wait and see.

[fair olive]

They did the same for the last two biomes tho

I wonder if they're doing any other adjustments alongside deep north

Since it's 1.0

[gray sand]

Last 2 biomes weren't full release of the entire game though.

[merry pebble]

Those were not the full release of the game tho 😄

[azure yacht]

The song playing in the video, that one's not currently in the game, right? I don't recognize it from anywhere

[old flint]

I watched all 10 episodes. Looks like entering the biome triggers winter in the entire world..

[gray sand]

@rotund parrot same odds as everything else: 50/50 😉

[azure yacht]

Seems like a tease of the ost

[mental hawk]

Makes sense, but there will be so much content I doubt they wont do a PTB

For the sake of polishment

[chrome badge]

Well they have more hands than ever on the game at the moment with 2 console ports happening, so they may not need testers.

[fair olive]

That does remind me, I thought that Ashlands and Deep North were supposed to not be sequential to each other yet Deep North already seems more end gamey

[gray sand]

I would genuinely be surprised if they did one.

[fair olive]

I think no ptb is probably the better case, that way when we get any word it'll be a full drop instead of a ptb tease and having to wait another month for full release

[chrome badge]

I agree, they have good protocols for fixing anything that happens after release these days.

[bold hedge]

I wonder if it's the release date behind that gate

[fair olive]

Until we know, all we can hope for is that the ps store leaks a release date by accident or something 💔

[chrome badge]

It's Ganondorf

[chrome badge]

Typical

[bold hedge]

At least they're done drip feeding these 40 second clips so hopefully that means it's close it's almost March I was hoping it'd be here before my birthday

[flat pivot]

Hm, is the deep north key item going to be snow shoes?

[burnt glen]

||Hervor's ancestors were in Valheim too?||

[chrome badge]

This was a nice little gift for me, today is my birthday. 🎂

[burnt glen]

Happy birthday Omni!

[mental hawk]

It has to be sequential, otherwise it would mess a bit with the lore IMO

[bold hedge]

Aww well happy birthday mine is March 8th

[fair olive]

How would that work?

[smoky gate]

hi, good day. When will the update be released?

[chrome badge]

Thanks 😄

[fair olive]

Didn't they say they wanted to make them optional, so that you could choose which one to tackle first?

[tacit crystal]

When it is ready.

[flat pivot]

Dunno but she's kicking up snow as she walks in the new video

[burnt glen]

Basically when you kill Fader, you steal his kicks.

[bold hedge]

She kicked up a lot of snow

[fair olive]

I think the better idea might be an icebreaker attachment of sorts, or maybe the drakkar acts as an icebreaker to allow traversal to the deep north of something

[fair olive]

Fair enough, looks like we've got our running theory!

[flat pivot]

not talking bout ideas, talking about the video

[rugged bridge]

God damn they dropping the Aether portal with the deep north, lit

[worn steeple]

"but whose powers shackles the very world"

🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶

Last voyage part is out ❤️

[mental hawk]

It all leads to Deep North, as all streets lead to Rome

[bold hedge]

I understood that reference

[fiery frigate]

Do you guys think the final boss will be the Fenrir? With all the chains in the new trailer, and the fact that he's one of the enemys of odin

[fair olive]

What theories do we have for the final boss

I doubt it'll be fenrir

[flat pivot]

could be

[full frost]

Winter child...

[gray sand]

If you get too close to the portal there is a very annoying voice on the other side saying "HEY! LISTEN!"

[tired path]

It would make sense for that to happen after slaying Fader. The Emerald Flame extinguishes and removes the source of heat from the world.

[paper marsh]

Where did you hear that? Only place I've ever seen that was a suggestion from a random person in #suggestions

[flat pivot]

mind you, the final boss may not be the deep north boss

[fathom notch]

I've been seeing leaks that the final boss is Thanos

[fair olive]

I could've sworn I'd seen a bunch of stuff

[mental hawk]

An icebreaker would be awesome

[rugged bridge]

An Incarnation of Optimization

[chrome badge]

0:14 has some interesting new imagery... that glowing orange stone is especially intriguing.

[fair olive]

I wonder if we might get something like the king, considering that moder got fader

[flat pivot]

kill deep north boss -> whole word freezes -> find fenrir. that's my guess

[rugged bridge]

I think I'm more likely to step through the portal and hear "Hey you, you're finally awake."

[mental hawk]

Its Tai Lung

[fair olive]

I feel like if they got for a non linear style they could easily have it so that the drakkar acts as both an icebreaker and heat protection to pick one, them depending on which one you go to first the other gets a little harder but you get a boon from that first biome

[fair olive]

Hopefully something like that, a final release needs a true final boss

[flat pivot]

don't think they're gonna do special ship twice in a row

[gray sand]

What possible reason could Fenrir have for wanting the 9 realms destroyed?

[fair olive]

It's the same ship, just with two functions

[fiery frigate]

He fights with the snake man and friends in the ragnarok, and with all this winter stuff in deep north

[flat pivot]

"wanting" is a strong word. it's his winter

[gray sand]

The entire reason we are here is to stop the Forsaken from breaking the world tree and destroying the 9 realms.

So unless Fenrir is a) Forsaken and b) wants everything, everywhere dead -- absolute zero chance he is the boss.

[granite tide]

Where’s Kratos and Atreus when you need them

[paper marsh]

Kratos final boss?

[burnt glen]

None of the monsters or bosses have been directly from norse myth so I doubt it isn't something unique again.

[fair olive]

Maybe the final boss is fought at the offering stones after killing the deep north boss

Or at least a portal is opened to it at the offering stones

[granite tide]

Garm possibly? He was trapped in Helheim

[fair olive]

Exactly what I've been thinking

[fiery frigate]

Jhon Valheim is the last boss

[fair olive]

If they were gonna do a mythological figure it'd be for a proper final boss

[smoky gate]

there is some chat in spanish lenguage?

[rugged bridge]

Time for a crossover, last we saw of Atreus he did disappear behind the camera

[merry pebble]

Nope, english only on the whole server

[granite tide]

I guess he found the giants in Valheim! I knew it

[rugged bridge]

And they did say the biggest enemy yet would be in the deep north

[granite tide]

That's very true!

[red coral]

Old Norse

[gray sand]

Final boss is... Yagluth's missing legs 😏

[latent wave]

How many legs 👀

[lone rampart]

It’s kickin’ time! 🦵

[paper marsh]

obviously yag is half spider half giant person

So 8 legs

[gray sand]

One of his attacks is just giant hip bones twerking.

[rugged bridge]

Yagluth feet reveal?

[gray sand]

Yes.

Deep North is just OnlyHeims.

[lone rampart]

But only if you pay on OnlyFuls

[gray sand]

😂

[west mica]

OnlyFjords

[gilded crane]

I hope this isn't the end, but rather the beginning of something great, especially since we're talking about Norse mythology. Valheim has a lot of potential to expand, especially with many separate event DLCs... especially since Iron Gate gives you that possibility.

[paper marsh]

Think it's more likely they'll make a new game than keep focusing on Valheim for 10 years

I'm excited to see what they cook up whatever the case tho

[subtle pawn]

I think that devs said something about updating valheim after 1.0

[gray sand]

They have confirmed on multiple occasions that the game will have a defined ending.
It is not an MMO. It will not continue forever.

1.0
Bugfixes
Add stuff they didn't have time for
Bugfixes
Done. Over. Completed. Next project.

I do not know why that would be cause for tears 🤷‍♂️

[subtle pawn]

either way the game is fantastic

[inland abyss]

Hey, is there any confirmed date about the release of deep north?

[paper marsh]

Not yet no

[inland abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/fell-down-gif-13305091974866666072

[fiery ledge]

That was my first thought as well but they kinda did much of that in Mountains.

I presume the Jotun are gonna be involved in the north but beyond that it is anybody's guess.

I'm kinda hoping it turns out we were the baddies all along, working for the tyrant Odin who we now have to defeat to rectify the damage we did. I would be cool with it being Loki as well since they're not really in the game at all thus far.

[gray sand]

We are not the bad guys...

[gilded crane]

Well, since we're talking about the Deep North, it wouldn't be bad at all to have Ymir as a boss there!

[fiery frigate]

I would like to have some aditional content after deep north, maybe when you put all trophys in the altar you open a portal to valhalla or smth, and you have to fight the valkiryes or odin

[gray sand]

How Ymir still alive if we are buying his rotten flesh?

[paper marsh]

Part of him got caught off maybe

Slice off an ear have it rot for a few years

[gray sand]

Why does everyone want to get killed by Odin instead of just accepting the rewards of Valhalla?

[north iris]

Are there any news about the ps5 release that i missed? I only see news about nintendo switch 2...

[fiery ledge]

Ymir isn't the only Jotun.

Also, how are we still "alive" when we keep getting poked in the face by 'squitos. 😛

[gilded crane]

The story of the giant of Ymir goes beyond small pieces of his flesh, because it includes many weapons, fragments, and even children born from him.

[foggy glacier]

Nothing new about PS5. AFAIK still expected with 1.0 release some time this year.

[fiery frigate]

I want to ride his horse with 8 legs

Need to kill him first

[north iris]

Thx

[gray sand]

You can't. It's Odin. You just die instantly.

[gilded crane]

me too

[fiery ledge]

Sounds like a fun challenge

[fiery frigate]

Sounds like a skill issue

[paper marsh]

Nothing I've seen has indicated console release and 1.0 being a package deal, nor 1.0 releasing this year

Though I could have missed something

[gray sand]

Too many DoB players in here not understanding what Valheim is about... 😭

[fiery frigate]

Does PlayStation accept early acess?

[delicate laurel]

Playstation requires trophies. So you can atleast rest assured that it will not be on Playstation until 1.0

[gilded crane]

Exactly, connections, especially since Lord Reto's quests would make sense after obtaining the sword and placing it in the Deep North to unlock something.

[fiery frigate]

Maybe we will be able to level up the dwyrn sword

With a quest or smth

[paper marsh]

Yes

[fiery ledge]

I'm curious why you think your understanding is stronger than others. Not saying it's not but I would love to know where your confidence comes from.

[paper marsh]

Interesting.

I suppose they may still not be a package deal, but would make sense if they were

[worn steeple]

Maby last boss is Ymir

[gray sand]

From the opening scrawl of the game that outlines who we are and exactly why we are here?

[foggy glacier]

Clearly Haldor has already slayed Ymir.😉

[chrome badge]

Me with the new teaser: #memes-and-clips message

[fiery ledge]

But that doesn't mean Odin hasn't been manipulating us the whole time

[gray sand]

Jesus Horatio Christ....

[fiery ledge]

Yes my child

[gray sand]

Blocked.

[fiery ledge]

Oof.

[worn steeple]

Just sliced some parts of the flesh, who knows what Haldor can do lol

[fiery ledge]

I wanted genuine discussion 😂

[fiery frigate]

And nintendo as well?

The big N

[foggy glacier]

Maybe Odin has been manipulating us, but since he's a god and we follow him it's moot.

[austere sedge]

Maybe the winter child is the deep north boss?

[paper marsh]

I think they do, though it's rare? Idk, haven't played Nintendo for a long time

[fiery ledge]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that is what is happening. I just am open to many different possibilities 🙂

[fiery frigate]

I don't have a switch, but i think the store there just accept full games, Nintendo never does a early acess of their own games

[worn steeple]

There is so much fascinating material in Norse mythology when it comes to “ice and fire” that the final boss could have quite a few possible identities depending on who they choose

[austere sedge]

I like to think that after we defeat whoever the deep north boss is, a portal will open in the middle of the altar, then we're about to enter valhalla but Odin stopped us to see if we're worthy and he's the final boss

[worn steeple]

I doubt Odin would make the world freeze tbh

[normal night]

is there a channel to ask for someone if they wanna join? me and a friend just started playing this a couple days ago if anyone wanna join us

[paper marsh]

ye, #1024264966712340510

[wheat stirrup]

is the new biome any close to being finished ?

[fiery frigate]

Nobody knows

[lone rampart]

Nobody beyond the dev team knows*

[wheat stirrup]

whats taking them so long

[shy marlin]

Quality takes time

[wheat stirrup]

"quality"

lol

i play with my friend and theres no quality in this game

[shy marlin]

👍

[paper marsh]

Feels like a quality game to me

But I can understand if others think it's a shit game, it's not for everyone

[wheat stirrup]

constant lags and fps drops no matter the settings

[wheat stirrup]

i mean i like the game but the issues this game has sometimes drive me insane

[paper marsh]

So would you rather they rush the update and introduce even more issues?

A big part of the biome update I believe will also be bugfixes and polishing things for 1.0 update

[wheat stirrup]

cuz tell me why im constantly lagging on updates that came out months ago

me and my friend had horrible lags to the point where one of us couldnt help one another bc of the lags which resulted in our death

[paper marsh]

idk, maybe a problem with your setup? I haven't experienced any lag in a long time

But if you're playing a lot of people or long-distance that could be laggy

I haven't done that much

[wheat stirrup]

and the fact that it took devs a year and a half to fix the sound glitches in ashlands is pathetic 🤣

[wheat stirrup]

im not the only one who complains about this issue

theres numerous videos on youtube where people complain about the same issue

[paper marsh]

Ye I know

[wheat stirrup]

yes the gameplay is good and i had fun playing it in early game but mistlands and ashlands is the least pleasurable for me

[paper marsh]

But not everyone does. Which is why I say it depends on the specific circumstances / setup you're playing.

I had no lag playing with one buddy on a non-dedicated server with us 2000 miles apart

But I bet if I tried to play with 10 people halfway across the world I'd run into a lot of trouble

[wheat stirrup]

yeah so the argument to experiment with game settings wont work cuz my friend has 2x better pc than i do and hes the host of the server but regardless of that he still has lags, even bigger than i do considering hes the host :rolf:

[tacit crystal]

Network can affect a lot on those lags/issues, especially if playing on Wifi.

[wheat stirrup]

so it can not be an issue for soemone who lives this far away but someone who lives 1000km away from me has lags ?

[paper marsh]

Game settings doesn't sound like a good argument to me anyways

Lag is usually more of a connection / distance / # of players / netcode issue

[wheat stirrup]

how does it make sense considering that we all play the same game

[wheat stirrup]

2 players he has stable wifi and i have ethernet but we still experience lags

[tacit crystal]

Iron Gate doesn't provide connections.

[lone rampart]

Uh oh! Someone’s wearing their grumpy pants! this morning!

[tacit crystal]

Servers are player hosted.

[wheat stirrup]

thats what i manage do notice cuz they use steam and microsoft servers

[tacit crystal]

There it is, Wifi can affect a lot on those lags.

[paper marsh]

Seems like you're proving my point. Something about some part of our setups are different, which is why you have problems and I don't. Seems distance isn't the issue. Not that I know the exact reason

With that said though I do agree Valheim doesn't seem super optimized for multiplayer play to me, and it would be cool to see it improved

[wheat stirrup]

before he switched he ahd ethernet much weaker but it was still ethernet but we still experienced lags

and also wifis are not like in the 2000s sometimes he has more stable wifi than i do

[delicate laurel]

I use pingperfrct for my hosting and I have a friend's that play from Thailand typically around 250ms of ping and we never really had any issues.

[wheat stirrup]

what setups have to do with this ? everyone should be able this game without bnarley any issues with atleast medium pc

i dont have a perfect setup but it shouldnt be the reason why the game is lagging to the point where the game ius unplayable

[paper marsh]

Would be nice if everyone could yeah, hoping that'll be the case one day

[delicate laurel]

When gaming online ping is what matters so if you have issues check that first.

[paper marsh]

Idk what my specific setup was back when I played more multiplayer

[wheat stirrup]

idk this game makes me confused

but im still not going to change my opinion

everyone with atleast decent setup should be playing this game

considering that the only thing that takes the most amount of resources is the map

[tacit crystal]

All those fixes were not possible to implement for longer period due to game engine issues which Unity got fixed but was delayed.

[wheat stirrup]

well if thats the case

maybe its an good argument for the developers but not for the people who buy the game

normal player is not going to know the reason and the cause of each issue

which will result in players complaining why certain issue hasnt been fixed yet

[sterile kernel]

More updates about the Deep North "in the comings months".

It's going to be Summer by the time we get the snow?

[wheat stirrup]

seems like it

almost 2 years

[paper marsh]

Or fall or winter yea. coming months isn't specifying much

[wheat stirrup]

other biomes took them alteast 1 year to finish

[tacit crystal]

Audio issues in Ashlands are fortunately now fixed which I'm happy with. And overall performance has increased since last game engine update.

[wheat stirrup]

deep north is taking them longer for whatever reason

[wheat stirrup]

it took them 1 year and a few months to fix this

[paper marsh]

Probably because they're also doing 1.0 release so they're touching up bugs and unfinished things, adding achievements, etc.

[wheat stirrup]

i have managed to finish this game twice by the time it got fixed

[tacit crystal]

Hence what I replied earlier.

[wheat stirrup]

yes i know

but i also gave u an argument from an customer pov and not developer pov

[tacit crystal]

At the same time as they develop the new biome from start to finish they also balance around finding solutions and fixes for most critical issues, which is probably not the easiest task honestly.

[wheat stirrup]

also how does it work that my friend found on internet on an random website an code that i write down in the game notepad and it increases the performance by 20 fps

[wheat stirrup]

so how does it work that modders are managing to create downloadable mods that fixes multiplayer lags which developers still havent done yet ?

[tacit crystal]

Because modders can just pick the cherries on top while developers are balancing around the overall ongoing project.

[storm sinew]

What shield do you guys use against a seeker soldier?

[wheat stirrup]

i used the classic sheilds my whole playthrough

[tacit crystal]

Black metal shield should be enough with proper HHS food setup.

[wheat stirrup]

so modders can fix an issue within a day or a week but developers cant fix it in years and they call it "balancing around the overall ongoing project" which also takes litellary years to finish??

as an person who bought the game this doesnt make any sense to mne

[gray sand]

Modders also don't have QA or have to care at all about how their "fix" affects other parts of the game.

[tacit crystal]

That I was implying.

[wheat stirrup]

how big is the iron gate and coffe stain team ?

[tacit crystal]

Hence why most mods break after updates.

Iirc 16 people in Iron Gate.

Coffee Stain is publisher.

[wheat stirrup]

they have to be updated which most of the modders do

most of them is completely for free

[gray sand]

If this is going to be a whole discussion about modders, may I recommend #mods-discussion ?

[wheat stirrup]

is everyone taking their time with each assigned task to them then im not surprised why theyre taking so long

[gray sand]

Oh, so just a generalized hater... got it.

[wheat stirrup]

i have a friend who created scripts for games withing litellar days from scratch without knowing anything about the games within days

[outer geode]

when will the deep north release aaaaaaaaa

[tacit crystal]

When it's ready.

[wheat stirrup]

i litellary have 500 hours in the game how can i be a hater

[outer geode]

I just hope that we will be fighting loki as the last boss :)

[gray sand]

Because people put thousands of hours into games they hate?
Have you never met someone who plays LoL?

[tacit crystal]

Personally I doubt that.

[outer geode]

Same honestly, it is just a small frickle of hope that i have...

the fact that it is someone that is hold up in chains🤨

[wheat stirrup]

so considering that i hjave so many hours in this gasme that means i know this game perfectly and makes my opinion count 100x times more than someone who has only played 10 hours

[outer geode]

it is gotta be a god of sum sort

[gray sand]

This is factually incorrect.

[wheat stirrup]

i know the issues that this game has and things that ive enjoyed in this game

[wheat stirrup]

so lets say someone only complain aobut the graphics and how u start as an naked person without any clear guieds

meanwhile i point out the issues that makes the game difficult to play

which are lags

[gray sand]

So in your bid to explain why your opinion matters more than someone else's, we're going to construct a very specific scenario to make you feel better about yourself?

[wheat stirrup]

who would u listen to, a person who has barley any experinece with the thing that hes going to review or someone who has put hunderds of hours into the product to give an genuine review ?

idk what about you but i would go with that second person most of the time

[gray sand]

Are you asking for my personal opinion?

[wheat stirrup]

yes

[gray sand]

I would listen to whichever one didn't mod my game. 🙃

[wheat stirrup]

oir theres an c anwser?

[wheat stirrup]

well i havent moded the game so u can anwser this question normally

[gray sand]

Second opinion goes to whichever person is just offering feedback without saying their feedback is more important than anyone else's.
Because all viewpoints are valid and worth consideration.

[wheat stirrup]

whatever u say

its ur opinion

i would like to hear an opinion from someone who knows all negative and positive sides from the product but everyone has their own opinion

[autumn tapir]

that's true. like I love overwatch gameplay wise and (old) character design wise. I hate every single new system nowadays and the direction the game now goes for

[maiden kayak]

Is the new update fire fellas?

[tacit crystal]

The game engine update since 2nd of Feb is pretty fire, performance feels overall better. 👍
Or are you talking about the blog update?

[paper finch]

Man, I'm so sad that the development of the game will end with the deep north. I'd love to be able to discover many more biomes

[versed crypt]

The thing is a long term player may not hold the same things as positives or negatives. New players have a very different experience compared to long term players. And I find fresh eye opinions to be a great source of information. After all we got hooked on this game too and it was those first few hours that did it.

[slate glacier]

havent noticed anything, but I also haven't done an EotW% on 221.10 or later to really test it.

[wheat stirrup]

i understand but i dont wnat to debate any furhter

[gray sand]

You're sad that a dedicated team will finally achieve their goals?
🤔
How do you watch sports? 👀

[wheat stirrup]

ive debated for roughly 30 minutes and its enough for me

[versed crypt]

No worries, didn't mean to badger you. All love

[wheat stirrup]

no problem broski im all chilling rn

[lone rampart]

It’s enough for all of us who had to sit through it, too…

[paper marsh]

After the game is finished you can probably still get mods to give you that experience

I'm hoping iron gate will cook up another equally as amazing game down the line though

[wheat stirrup]

uve only sent 1 message

[lone rampart]

I’m always watching, Wazowski. Always. 🐌

[paper marsh]

Man as a small icon Rain and Orliano's icons look really similar. For a second I thought I replied to madam Rain dancer

[slate glacier]

I think they're sad that the plan is to end with 1.0. things like terraria/tml have been going for ages. sure its minor content updates, but its still something.

[wheat stirrup]

i hope u had a great experience i guiess

[gray sand]

I can repeat what I said...
But I don't think I need to because it still applies.

[lone rampart]

I’m sad the game has an end, but overjoyed that it happened

[wheat stirrup]

calamity carries terraria

[slate glacier]

agreed.

[tacit crystal]

Fortunately game has great replay value.

[wheat stirrup]

it carries a huge role for people who have already finished vanilla terraria

[slate glacier]

but even that has been ongoing for a comparably long time. people don't really grieve over development ending, because they both keep getting new stuff.

with this, the plan as I heard was to cut off at 1.0, with maybe a few bug fixes after the fact.

[wheat stirrup]

with each new update for terraria the devs have said that its the last one

prolly it will be the same wirh valheim

[slate glacier]

yk what i wonder what else irongate have released

just valheim. so we don't really know if that'll be true.

[wheat stirrup]

who knows

maybe in the future theyll make another game similar to valheim

or even valheim 2 or something

that was the plan with terraria

to stop developing terraria and start with another project

[slate glacier]

we know relogic has a trend from terraria/tml post release, valheim never left early access. we just don't know.

[wheat stirrup]

we can guess

[tacit crystal]

Valheim will leave Early Access when Deep North update is added.

[wheat stirrup]

but iron gates will have pretty great portfolio with valheim innit which will make making a new game much easier

[slate glacier]

what we dont know is what they will do after. we don't know if they're going to pull a relogic or if they're going to leave it. we know what they plan, but not that they'll stick to it.

[gray sand]

1.0
Bugfixing
Add stuff they didn't have time for
Bugfixing
Done. Completed. Move on to next project.

^ per Smiffe last time he talked about it.

[frank swift]

Valheim has mods?

[tacit crystal]

Yes, can be asked by people in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202934289898151966 👍

[gray sand]

🤢

Ah yes, my meds. Thank you.

💛

[lone rampart]

Don’t say the M word it makes his tummy icky

[gray sand]

The only good M word is meow.

[gray cairn]

Mods are awesome

[tacit crystal]

Moderators in this server are, agreed.

[gray sand]

Indeed. We love moderators.

[gray cairn]

Those, too, for sure

[gray sand]

Those, only.

[gray cairn]

🤷🏻‍♂️

[gilded crane]

i need

[ancient roost]

mm.. mmmm.... months?!?

[gray sand]

Yes.

[paper marsh]

Yes.

[solemn crown]

I learned to make the Queen's Jam. Huzzah!

[earnest field]

I really expected hauling ores by boat would be tedious knowing I could use a portal otherwise. But the devs really did a good job with the sailing, it's very relaxing

[pale nest]

when is that happening, i yearn for the valheim but running around on conquered world is boring 😩

do we have approximate time for the deep north actually?

[tacit crystal]

Last blog post stated this:

And while this marks the end of Hervor’s story, we will of course keep having further teasers in our Words from the Devs in the months to come, rest assured! The Deep North continues to take shape with every passing day, and we really look forward to sharing it with you all once it’s ready.

[pale nest]

its not exactly over but we arent really back either

[final linden]

Is there a summary of the new video they posted, on whats new

[lone rampart]

Hey…hey…did anyone else realize what that portal was in the teaser?
It’s…an Iron Gate

(Ok technically a stone gate draped in iron chains but still!)

[rugged bridge]

Finally it all makes sense, valheim's ending is raiding iron gate HQ and beating up every employee

[light drift]

i really hope they don't push it on switch until its fully released

[lone rampart]

It’s like the end of Blazing Saddles, ||when they spill out of their Wild West town into the Hollywood back lots||

[fathom tendon]

Is there a way to offer my Body to the Valheim devs? ive never been so hyped avout a game release

[paper marsh]

Closest / Most useful thing would probably be to dedicate yourself to the most profitable work you qualify for, do as much overtime as you can, and only purchase bare necessecities so you can donate the majority of your salary to the devs

[nocturne wolf]

by buying hundreds of neck plushies?

[paper marsh]

No then devs have to pay costs for producing the plushies

More effective to set up a straight donation line to them

[oblique zinc]

Devs can sacrifice your body to Odin on something like Eikthyr altar

[lone rampart]

Deep North needs PUFFINS 🐧

[gray sand]

🤔

[shy marlin]

Deep north NEEDS scooby doo snacks

🐕

[dark coyote]

they randomly slide around, like an environmental hazard, you have to jump them

[gray sand]

If you put Penguins in DN... America will try to annex it 😭