valheim-chat

[uncut pecan]

But, to be fair, Giratina and Arceus's designs are pretty good.

[candid basalt]

Just realized this is not the general channel

[sharp owl]

what's the difference genuinely?

was und the exact same assumption tbh 🙂

[flat stag]

I have so much Grausten in Ashlands, but also a lot of regular stone. Is it worth building with Grausten in Ashlands to make a solid base? Is it actually stronger than regular stone and can take more hits?

[fossil delta]

It is tougher, and while we get a lot of it, the pieces do have a rather high piece cost. It does clearly hold up better versus the Morgyn and the fire blob explosions. You'd have to ask the people who test the numbers for specifically how much better it is. I just go by my observations.

[flat stag]

Thanks. I will just spend a lot of it for outer walls and stuff. So I have several layers of walls to preserve the core base

[fossil delta]

Yeah, it even holds up better than raised earth against the fire blobs.

[flat stag]

I like the idea that you are being constantly invaded in AL - makes building worth it

[light moat]

Yeah we got a bit off topic, whoops!

[strange cradle]

I just use the forts as a base. They're pretty much indestructible.

You only have to defend yourself against Valkyries.

[fossil delta]

Eventually the flow of the mobs does slow down. I can even spend several minutes in my Ashlands base without anything attacking, and even then, my ballista easily take care of most of that. It did take a long time for it to become that quiet. Comparatively speaking.

[strange cradle]

Actually, once I cleared the initial onslaught on D-Day, it became relatively quiet already.

[cosmic parrot]

I have a question : I just sarted to get less afraid of swamps because I'm so scared to die, but I improved killing abomination with my level 1 iron sword. But for bone mass, do I really need to spend 20 more iron to craft the iron masse? or with the sword, it is more difficult but it works?

[strange cradle]

Trust me, you will NEED the mace.

[nocturne wolf]

Bonemass takes 3x blunt damage compared to slash and the mace is also good for an enemy in mountains

[strange cradle]

Lvl 2 minimum. Lvl 3 recommended.

[sharp owl]

Stone (All pieces): 1500 HP

Grausten: 2000 HP

Ashstone: 2000 HP (Highest stability)

[cosmic parrot]

Ok noted, thank you guys!

[strange cradle]

I use the mace solely for Bonemass, but it IS needed there. And there's a mob in the mountains... don't want to spoilz0r it too much.

Bonemass can be defeated in five minutes on default setting with lvl 2-3 iron armor, iron round shield and the iron mace.

At least lvl 2, preferably lvl 3.

Good food always a must.

And poison protection potion.

[nocturne wolf]

with iron armor and poison resistance you won't need to move at all through the whole fight

[strange cradle]

I still kite it around its skull. But technically... yeah, not necessary.

[fossil delta]

I usually beat him in around 2 minutes. I use a stamina mead to do it, in order to just keep hitting him.

[strange cradle]

Yeah, that probably makes it faster. But I'm old and slow, so gimme five minutes, please. 😉

[cosmic parrot]

I have already a level 3 root mask, so I have poison resistance, so should i just get my armor level 2/3, or the full armor with the iron helmet with potions?

[fossil delta]

I'm 60 this year.

[strange cradle]

Full armor, and even if you would use the root mask, you still want poison protection.

Trust me.

[cosmic parrot]

Oh ok

[strange cradle]

Bonemass is more or less all about poison. And whacking you.

[nocturne wolf]

Root mask is 50% resistance, mead is 75%. You'll take less than half damage with that mead than the mask if you're wearing any armor.

[fossil delta]

Those poison resistances do not stack.

[strange cradle]

64, but I am taking my time. I'm no longer in a rush. 😉

[fossil delta]

The only resistance that does stack is pierce resistance, with the serpent shield.

[sharp owl]

for BM you can either roll into for a lot of uptime or even parry for the most and ideally deal with the angry mob during his biological warfare phase.

[strange cradle]

With a lvl 3 mace even at zero skill level, the mobs are pretty much almost one hits.

My mace skill is usually zero, when I try to kill Bonemass.

That's why it's taking me longer. 😉

[fossil delta]

It is. My skill is usually in the 50's when I get to Bonemass.

[strange cradle]

Exactly.

I don't use maces, I rather have sword and board.

[fossil delta]

I don't switch to swords until the plains. That skill gets into the 60's by the time I get into Ashlands.

[flat stag]

i've never built ballistas - i heard, that it also shoots you - is it true?

[strange cradle]

It does, when you don't have it set to a specific target.

[nocturne wolf]

They shoot everything or one creature if you put in a trophy

[fossil delta]

They do unless you have trophies to have them target specific mobs.

[flat stag]

is one enough? Or should I build a few?

[candid basalt]

wtf is ashstone?

[strange cradle]

I usually go axe for Meadows and Black Forest, then sword from Swamps on.

[cosmic parrot]

ok, so i will craft the mace right away to get skills before the boss while taking iron for my armor

[strange cradle]

That's fine.

Root armor is usually sufficient for ALMOST everything the swamp throws at you.

[fossil delta]

You can use TWIG. You can pretty quickly get any combat skill into the 20's within a few minutes, and into the 30's in under 20 minutes.

[sharp owl]

idk tbh. I let grok crawl over the wiki and the 20 most relevant mentions.

[strange cradle]

Never heard of Ashstone. Probably a mod.

[candid basalt]

AI is useless

[sharp owl]

it's under Grausten apparently and specifically mentioned as support https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Grausten_structures

[haughty geode]

is there any info on when it will release on consoles and crossplatform multiplayer?

[sharp owl]

no specifics

[candid basalt]

Oh its the category, grausten is ashtone prefix. So the same damn thing

Just like black marble is marble

[nocturne wolf]

Ashstone is the material type which is used for footstep sounds and building stability. It does not determine health of a build piece.

AI is still useless

[abstract warren]

What's the original purpose of the harpoon?

Preventing the serpent from escaping?

[fossil delta]

Enabling us to drag it on to land to get the trophy and scales.

[abstract warren]

Right. Thought so

[candid basalt]

Original was to fling vikings into space. Then they nerfed it

[fossil delta]

That is true. 😄

[candid basalt]

Before we had feather capes even

[fossil delta]

Believe they got rid of that in 2021. So within the first year of release.

[candid basalt]

I think you are right, but it was fun

[fossil delta]

You should be able to still find videos of people utilizing that. In case anyone wants to see what they missed out on.

[paper marsh]

2026

Will be able to crossplay but no cross-saves

[sharp owl]

is it worth building jewelry with like rubys, pearls and coins etc?

[paper marsh]

Sounds like a modded question

Only stuff you can make with ruby's and such to my knowledge is decorative treasure chests and coin piles, and one trinket

[abstract warren]

Coin piles only require coins

[paper marsh]

coins fall under "and such"

[loud frost]

does anyone else just wear troll armor all the way into the mountains because heavy armor feels too slow and root armor sucks against cultists?

is this intended?

[shy marlin]

🤔 yea

but i'd go with bear armor over troll set

[abstract warren]

Yeah that'd probably be a good idea. I had no idea about the cultists' fire attacks so I went in with root armour and got obliterated on sight

[green reef]

not an uncommon first experience

and then again when you are like, why does this cavern look different, go away crow, I got this.

[tribal leaf]

Welp there goes my server lost all my shit in the mountains no way to get it back. Love this game but at times fucking hate the bullshit it puts you in

I can never get past mountains without cheats

I always die to bullshit. My least favorite biome.

[green reef]

on my last playthrough, no-portals and no-map. I died in the mountains in a silver pit I was digging where the wolf was down in it with me. I hadn't recovered any silver yet and was still using frost pots.

that was a real pain to get stuff back. especially cuz my bow was in the pit too, how do you kill a wolf in a pit without gear? how do you survive cold without pots or frost resistance armor?

it wasn't easy for sure.

[flat stag]

Does destroying Drakkar with an axe work like with every other ship? It gives me my mats back if I stay at the mast?

[tribal leaf]

I had to back up save this shit cause i aint fucking spendinf hours doing all the collecting again fuck that

One of the worst qualities of the game is time consumption in ore

[green reef]

I'm sure it does. I'd be careful though doing it in Ashlands. easy to lose mats in the black water.

[flat stag]

how should i be careful? Not much choice here

[green reef]

I accidently deconstructed a stone cutter pretty close to shore and the iron fell down and I couldn't find it.

[flat stag]

the ship it as close to the Ashlands coast as it can be

[green reef]

throw something down in the water about where the mast would be and see if you can pick it up?

[fossil delta]

Where I have my Drakkar a serpent keeps spawning. So I leave it there. Gotten a lot of meat, teeth, and a few trophies because of it. Easiest serpent hunting ever.

[flat stag]

i'll try and flatten it with a hoe around the ship

[loud frost]

same experience a couple years back, immediately swapped back to troll

[flat stag]

that sucks

i succeeded btw

[loud frost]

I thought about it but that 25% damage increase turns a lot of two-tap enemies into one-tap enemies

[flat stag]

I still find it extremely silly that you need to hack your ship to pieces to get the mats 😄 it just hurts to do it

Hoe is seriously awesome

[green reef]

best utility tool for Ashlands, could survive withhout axe, only reason you need the pickaxe is for flametal and you could get that from fortreses instead

[flat stag]

I'm still wondering what to do about spots of lava. Stonecutter nearby and cover with stone, perhaps?

[green reef]

you can't do anything about lava. except get better gear or an asksvin saddle.

watching a mod video for QOL mods, it was just made today. Looks like the Author doesn't know you can hold SHIFT down when you go to craft something and make 5x. vanilla.

[flat stag]

damn, you can do that? Like craft 5x foods with Shift?

[feral grove]

Indeed.

[green reef]

bonus too, it multiples the bonus you get from the crafting skill for free extras.

[flat stag]

awesome, I hope i will remember this tip

[steel mica]

Its sometimes kind of hilarious to see my asksvin army swarm a damn target lmao

[feral grove]

First thing that comes to mind is said army of askvin swarming a Target store. As a disgruntled former employee of theirs for 11 years, I would love to see that.

[flat stag]

lol so awesome, there is 1 star dverg that just "moved in" at my beach fortress - dunno where the heck he came from but it's so nice to have a guardian now

[hard sluice]

as long as it doesnt start throwing fireballs at your base, trying to kill a deathsquito 😛

[green reef]

oddly the Ashlands dvrgrs don't have magic

[fading blaze]

is there any news or an estimated timeframe deep north will be released?

[green reef]

this year

[hard sluice]

oh, a ashlands base ! thats awesome

[fading blaze]

feel like ive been waiting for forever 😮

[green reef]

presumably release dates will be announced in advance for PlayStation and the other console that they are releasing on, those would be the best bets for 1.0 for everyone.

[flat stag]

glad i found willpower to wait with Ashlands until now - this will keep me busy for a while

[chrome badge]

Any news will be in the #news channel, there's no estimated timeframe as of now.

[sinful fulcrum]

valheim never had a valentine update right?

[ashen geyser]

what would you like to be added for a valentine update? im curious

[green reef]

Love Potions?

[unkempt vigil]

I have something to tell you pal...

[near furnace]

all speculations, rumors and such "I know someone, trust me friend" about when deep north will release. are false.
I still haven't even heard any "leaks" being even remotly close

when we have a date to announce, we will announce it 🙂

[lunar sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-patience-cat-cute-pets-gif-5544229

[cosmic summit]

is a crystal battle axe better at chopping wood than a bronze axe?

[shy marlin]

if you can hit multipe things yes

[sharp owl]

from what I gathered Haldor is supposed to sell Ymir Flesh after defeating the 2nd Boss already. However after being in the mountains for quite a bit and obviously having defeated Bonemass he doesn't have it in his repertoire. Can anyone enlighten me there?

alright it was me being stupid again...
I didn't see the actual store to the far left 🤦‍♂️

[green reef]

did you buy the belt yet?

[sharp owl]

the one with light or the one with the "super human strength"?

I bought the fishing stuff initially while not having fished once.

[green reef]

the one that gives you strength is the one I wear almost the whole game except for a small period in one specific biome.

[sharp owl]

hmmm, well if I'd ask what it does that would be quite a spoiler and I still remember from Frostner that it was at least once one of the game's best weapons.

[green reef]

Frostner is great now that you got the ymir flesh, need 5 of them.

[cosmic summit]

is the crystal heart trinket any good? i just got a golem trophy

nvm. this thing looks cool af. im keeping it

#screenshots message

[sharp owl]

If you would shoot poison arrows with the Draugr, does this stack or apply only one effect?

[green reef]

pretty sure you only get one, now that you have the bow, you don't need poison arrows anymore.

[sharp owl]

I know that with fire arrows you have both effects ticking

so I would have assumed it would stack

[green reef]

now that you are in mountains, obsidean arrows are a really good choice.

[sharp owl]

yeah, since you don't really need a lot of that and it's up there in abudance unlike with shooting your main ressource with like Iron/Copper.

[green reef]

I think you'll find the damage done with the higher level arrows generally eclipses the ticks you get from fire arrows.

eventually frost arrows are pretty nice, but I don't think they are valuable in the mountains.

[abstract warren]

From the wiki page about the rested bonus:
"Although not mentioned in its description, the effect also provides a 50% boost to all skill experience earned. The comfort level does not affect this experience multiplier."

Bro what

Why tf is it not mentioned in its description??

[green reef]

you shouldn't do anything without the rested bonus.

[abstract warren]

Yeah I know

[hoary scarab]

@chrome badge @haughty geode I think mine reset somehow also. I died to troll raid like a scrub, woke up on bed, got my rested buff, and went back to grab my stuff the the portal (no problem, raid done trolls walking away). I went back to building my outpost and a few minutes went by and my 13 min rested buff was expiring, but I still have a 6 min no skill drain counter

[abstract warren]

Also why is it we don't keep the rested bonus after relog? What's the deal with that?

[green reef]

you lose poisons, potions, even wet when you log. the game doesn't store statuses on your save.

[abstract warren]

Yeah

But why

[green reef]

good with the bad. it is a bit frustrating sometimes. I always try to log at my bed

[abstract warren]

Yeah

I guess it's just another "feature" I'mma mod out.

[chrome badge]

Game isn't finished yet, no need to opt into mods immediately.

[abstract warren]

Game isn't being finished is exactly why we need mods...

[chrome badge]

That's not true. Early access is about providing feedback during development.

[shy marlin]

you can do both 🤔

[chrome badge]

Certainly, but assuming something is a permanent function and modding before the game is finished isn't necessarily good for anyone.

[abstract warren]

Exactly......

[chrome badge]

If everyone chose to play that way, there would be far less feedback.

[abstract warren]

If there's a flaw in the game I personally make sure to report. And fix it with a mod if I can

[shy marlin]

yea lol

[abstract warren]

I don't any reason to keep the flaws and wait till they fix them

Especially since some of these flaws are actually intentional

[shy marlin]

and like, it's a single player game, it's your game, have fun with it your own way

[abstract warren]

Exactly

[chrome badge]

Yeah I don't think you understand my point, I never said not to play the way you want.

I was commenting on your phrasing that it's a "feature" you will have to mod out.

That's a bit of a stretch when and assumes a lot when the game isn't finished.

[abstract warren]

Well I don't know much about making games but I just it's something very basic and not too complicated to code into the game. So I thought they probably had their own logic as to why not add this. Like they did with armour slots 🤷‍♂️

[chrome badge]

It makes sense to me, new status effects would fall into account when programming them into your save, and the list of effects may not be known to the developers until they're totally finished.

[sharp owl]

99% of mods don't even touch the code itself, they are just adjusting parameters/variables the code works with.

[abstract warren]

Ok... So it wouldn't be so hard to just implement those things into vanilla...?

[sharp owl]

not at all

thing is that a lot of mods cause weird interactions and might mess with other things, they aren't even intended to do.

I expanded my base at least 5-6 times so far always thinkin "now this should be enough space". Now it's that time again 😄

[dusky anvil]

Why do people hate fishing so much in this game and should I fish anyways?

[green reef]

I always wonder, what's the footprint I should start with so that doesn't happen, but it always happens.

[chrome badge]

I love it, nice and relaxing in the morning before work.

[green reef]

fish for feasts and other foods, fish for troll str potions.

[sharp owl]

I mean you seem to have the experience to roughly know what you are gonna end up with?

[dusky anvil]

So, advice on fishing? How to, good baits, what to prepare for, etc

[green reef]

you'd think. hah

[sharp owl]

last time I played was before Mistlands and I can't remember anything. Which is also a good thing, since a lot of stuff either feels fresh or just new for me.

[green reef]

baits are biome specific. make them at the food prep table, I think you get all the recipes right away when you buy bait? stamina is key. keep casts short. easier usually to fish from a pier or a boat.

[chrome badge]

I usually mark where large schools of fish are on the map and use a raft to trawl the waters around me. Try to use all stamina foods, and cast only 3-4m max distance so you can reel anything in.

[dusky anvil]

Should I upgrade bait using trophies? If so, which trophies have the best blend for accessibility and effectiveness?

[chrome badge]

Effectiveness comes from skill levels, fish level, and stamina. Baits are just to catch biome specific fish.

[dusky anvil]

Good to know

[chrome badge]

Using a troll trophy with bait on the prep table for example, will allow you to catch Trollfosh in the Black Forest waters.

[sharp owl]

I killed Bonemass a 2nd time, since I play with Epic Loot and you can disenchant the trophies. He dropped at least 2 trophies, think it even was 3.

[dusky anvil]

Turnip Stew, Eyescream, Onion Soup?

[sharp owl]

are there feasts with fish?

[dusky anvil]

Not giving examples, wanted a rating for something effective, but cheap

[chrome badge]

Should work out quite well, just be sure you eat right before you fish a large school of fish, so it doesn't deteriorate on your travels.

[chrome badge]

Yes there is 😄

[sharp owl]

hmmm, I'm a continuous fishing "disliker" across all games 🙂

[abstract warren]

Why is the silly gjall flying away from me

[sharp owl]

If you would fight the fish like a mini boss maybe 😄

[hoary scarab]

Old gregg DN boss confirmed

[abstract warren]

I think fishing can be fun if they fish AI wasn't so teasing and annoying

God damn swarm is after me including soldier

Mistlands at night is diabolical

[paper marsh]

Diabolical but beautiful

[abstract warren]

Yeah

I got the flying basterds but they got my lil Dvergr bro 😔

[sharp owl]

wolves aren't that bad if they don't come in 4+ packs. However 3 Star wolves almost one shot me with 2 feasts and a sausage. They even attack through the parry.

[abstract warren]

I was sure I finally found an infested mine because it's like a Dvergr base but with seekers instead...

But there doesn't seem to be any entrance to anything

Gjall attacked the Dvergr and destroyed their component crate haha

I guess that's one way of getting the extractor

[dusky anvil]

Why do fish feel so hard to find?

[abstract warren]

Which ones

[hoary scarab]

Being fishy, obv

[rain flare]

3 star…? 😂

[neat python]

question found a coolspot to build a house what raids do i have to worry about when on a mistlane pillar soundered by water?

[abstract warren]

I thought waterlogged items are supoosed to despawn even if around base structures?

[dusky anvil]

The one time I wanted to kill a serpent, nowhere to be found for 30 minutes

[fossil delta]

They won't despawn if within the radius of a bench, etc...

Unless the water is a certain depth. I forget what that depth is, but I think they may despawn then.

[fossil delta]

RNG is fickle. To the point of being very irritating much of the time.

[dusky anvil]

Just sucks because after all those times of being chased by a serpent while doing something more important, wanted to lure one close to land to kill and get the trophy

[strange cradle]

I don't mind mods that add visual flavor to the game, or add some specific function (like Seasons, Plant Everything or Recycle'n'Reclaim) but I don't like mods that mess with the core game play. Why do you need extra "loot", if the world already provides everything you could ask for? Or extra monsters. Usually they don't look nearly as refined as the original ones and might behave in strange ways, messing - again - with the core game play loop.

[wet bluff]

Having a terrible time rn, I hope they update the amount of meters you cam dig down at some point 🥲 just got to the last corner of a rather large build but I cant do it because the snapping point isnt there due to the dirt

[inner minnow]

Guys i am not convinced to purcharse valheim if someone can tell me why i should buy it i will apreciate it

[strange cradle]

Only you can decide if the game is for you. It's fairly cheap, and sometimes it is on sale for half the price. You really can't make a mistake.

It really depends on what you expect a game to be.

Can you tell us what you like about a game?

[strange cradle]

Do you mean "Mistlands" or "Plains"? Mistlands is a bad idea, because Gjalls might destroy your base and any lifestock you might have. Plains is a bit better, but you can still get raided by Ashlands mobs. They do spawn in portals, but if you have spawn-proofed your pillar, then you might be good.

[neat python]

they only raid if u havent killed the queen and are on mistland shes already deawd

[strange cradle]

Yes, you didn't specify that. 😉

Well, depending on how you spawn proofed your pillar, you might also be good for Ashlands raids.

[neat python]

ill have to go back to it be via boat to show u it and bussy atm

[strange cradle]

No problem, I probably wouldn't be able to spot any deficiencies unless they're glaringly obvious. Sometimes a teenytiny speck of land that is not in the radius of the spawn protection is enough for a raid to be able to spawn in.

Only one way to try it out, I guess. 😄

[neat python]

@strange cradle heres the area 😄

https://i.imgur.com/ngpu0hr.jpeg

[strange cradle]

Again, it all depends on your spawn suppression (lots of worktables, camp fires, etc). The Mistlands are particularily hard to spawn-proof due to the rugged terrain. One little sliver of land that isn't covered is enough to allow raids to spawn in.

[neat python]

shouldnt be too hard 😄

[strange cradle]

Again, give it a try. Only one way to find out. 😄

I usually build bases in the Meadows, due to their fairly low number of raids. BF is actually one of the worst areas to live in, as all raids are allowed there.

Mountains has fairly low number of raids as well. But they have other disadvantages. But the best view. 😄

[simple anchor]

Man what would be great is a means to enchant gear with all the unsused loot we get

That or armor slots so we can wear it without taking up inventory space

[neat python]

only issue with meadons is the annoying graydrawfsmessing with your animals

[strange cradle]

Well, the only enemies that I fear at my base are flying ones. They can mess up your livestock seriously. Other than that a high enough wall, so enemies can't see you is sufficient.

[strange cradle]

I actually never had a problem with armor taking up inventory space. But then I'm not a compulsive "pick-upper". 😉

And I usually venture out to do specific tasks, so I only carry the tools for those.

[simple anchor]

It's mainly key items that start taking up more and more space as you go from one biome to the next

[chrome badge]

Are you not building walls? 😅

[strange cradle]

Not really. What do you need all the times?

[neat python]

i did the fences.... it didnt work XD

[chrome badge]

The.. small twig fences?

[neat python]

yea XD

[strange cradle]

What worked well for me is a two to three blocks height stone wall with a palisade on top.

No enemies but flying ones can see you and are usually not aggroed. Some spikes keep them away from your walls.

[chrome badge]

Try the large fence walls.

[neat python]

im already past boars i dug a hole at base for aashlands dog eggs at home

[chrome badge]

After those, upgrade to stone walls, etc.

[strange cradle]

Even the regular wooden spikes are good for most mobs, including trolls and fulings.

[simple anchor]

@strange cradle This is kind of an example, eventually I get an extra set of armor dedicated for speed (3 slots used in addition to my defensive gear which is also 3 slots), then the swamp key and wishbone (2 extra slots used), and then you get to mistlands with that one orb (1 slot used), it keeps making it more and more limited in what you can carry

[chrome badge]

What you mean passed boars? 😛

[neat python]

like i dont need them anymore

[chrome badge]

They never stop being useful, and progression isn't centered around things you tame. 😛

[strange cradle]

I only have the stuff on me that I need for a certain task. Why would I carry two sets of armor, a swamp key and a wishbone when I don't need them?

[simple anchor]

It's for in case you find a dungeon or silver on the way, and the speed gear is to go faster, what can I say

[chrome badge]

Yeah you're carrying way too much, portals make switching gear so much easier than carrying everything.

[strange cradle]

Exactly.

When I'm in MIstlands, I don't need a swamp key, faster armor, wishbone, etc.

I just need my heavy armor, my weaponry, and the wisplight.

Maybe the pick.

Again, portals make it so easy to switch out, if needed.

[simple anchor]

It's just more inventory management at that point when compared at the beginning of the game. Having the wishbone on you at all times is nice then you can find say silver or iron without actively looking for it

[strange cradle]

If I don't need it, I don't need to find it all the time. 😉

In Mistlands I don't need to find silver, because there's none. If I want iron, it is in plain sight.

I don't need the wishbone, nor the swamp key.

[simple anchor]

Iron in mistlands?

Oh yeah

[strange cradle]

Yes.

[simple anchor]

I'm guessing you need iron pick to mine that one right?

[strange cradle]

You get a new pick beginning of Mistlands.

[chrome badge]

It's more about time management, you can deliberately go out on locating trips with a wishbone, rather than it eating up an inventory slot forever.

[strange cradle]

You will find certain structures in Mistlands, where it is useful to set up a stone cutter.

[chrome badge]

Once you mark a large mountain on the map with every silver node you can find, it will take a long time to mine it all.

[strange cradle]

So you can dismantle them easily.

Exactly, @chrome badge

Valheim is a management game. Not in the sense of strategy titles, but in the sense of managing how you tackle tasks.

[simple anchor]

In that case what about armour? Wouldn't it make more sense to have what you currently wear not be part of the inventory?

[strange cradle]

I usually have my top row filled with hammer, sword, shield, wisp light (if accessible) bow, health potion.

[simple anchor]

Since it's on you

[strange cradle]

Then max four slots for armor. One or two slots for arrows. That's usually it.

Food maybe.

Still more than enough room for everything I pick up.

I usually run into the carry limit first.

I keep my inventory as empty as possible.

[chrome badge]

Make sense? Hard to say, you do have it on your person.

Would it free up space? Yeah.

[strange cradle]

When I sail out, I always have a portal on me and 10 wood. Still enough space left.

When I go exploring, I'm not looking to mine. I just mark what I find and come back later to do that specifically.

When I explore a swamp, I usually do not have the key on me. I just mark the crypts.

Think about it... Restrictions are usually put in a game for a reason. They are there to force you to think about them, in this case on how to manage your tasks efficiently. If you mod out these restrictions, you're pretty much cutting out parts of the game loop.

When I come back to mine a crypt, I set up a portal, a workbench and a chest right next to the crypt. I then pick up the swamp key, open the crypt and immediately return the key back to its safe place at home.

THEN I enter the crypt only with what I actually need.

The iron scrap gets stored in the chest.

[sacred bolt]

man the iron grind never stops, I am late mountains rn approaching plains just have to kill ||Moder||

[strange cradle]

Oh, yes. The iron grind never stops. 😄

But you will find new sources of iron in the Mistlands.

[sacred bolt]

Thank god my Barley farm is right next to my ||Bonemass|| swamp so I have easy access to the crypts

I got very lucky in that regard, I just have to improve it now cus my Mountains base is in the opposite end of the world

How much do skills matter? I rly wanna use the sword class but have been using maces so far

[strange cradle]

Yeah, that sucks. I usually try to keep my mines close to the base, well, at least until Ashlands. Once you get access to a certain thing there, the whole mining process becomes MUCH easier.

Skills do matter.

But don't think too much about them.

[sacred bolt]

oh I am aware of the better teleports

[strange cradle]

Just use, whatever you want to use.

[sacred bolt]

I got that spoiled

[strange cradle]

😄

[sacred bolt]

I have 3 bases atm for every major biome

It helped the first iron grind a ton as my smelting base was right next to a massive swamp

[strange cradle]

That's a good way of going about things.

[sacred bolt]

I am very nerdy in that I hunt serpents for my food cus Serpent Stew is a super good food I noticed

[strange cradle]

The first three bosses are easy once you've figured them out and prepare yourself accordingly. Skills start to matter really beginning with the fourth boss.

Oh, yes. Serpent food rocks.

[sacred bolt]

I have a maxed ||frostner, fang spear and full wolf armor though I am considering upgrading my harnesk to tier 4 cus it feels much better than the wolf chest||

I am just missing the ||maxed Drake Bow for moder||

[strange cradle]

I would go full wolf armor, lvl 3 is enough. You don't need pierce protection for Moder.

And I usually just smack her with the sword. Bow only when she flies, and then I usually just let her do that and don't bother.

[sacred bolt]

I have about 300 silver bars left rn (I grinded a lot) so I can do pretty much whatever I want atm

[strange cradle]

Lvl 3 silver sword is HIGHLY recommended.

You will need it later.

[sacred bolt]

Gotcha, in that case Ill make one. Does that one make the fancy Mistlands sword?

[strange cradle]

You will need the "fancy" Mistlands sword as well. It is really the best weapon also later in the game until you get something (slightly) better.

[sacred bolt]

I am a dark souls player so I rly enjoy parrying as my playstyle

it's so satisfying

[strange cradle]

That is good. It works really well in Valheim.

[sacred bolt]

Oh yeah and I also have a maxed silver shield

forgot to mention

[strange cradle]

You're good to go. 😄

[sacred bolt]

so I am pretty set for moder I think

[strange cradle]

Absolutely.

Of course, best food as always.

[sacred bolt]

I think Ill setup a barley farm first tho as it saves me some time later

[strange cradle]

Ok, gotta go, walking the dog time. She's jumping at me right now. 😉

[paper marsh]

Not a big diff tbh

On hard/vhard I actually prefer harnesk

[abstract warren]

Going into my first infested mine

Should I use Bonemass power or Yagluth?

Damn I keep dying lol

[pliant hatch]

You should use the power of cautiousness

[jolly trench]

just wondering how do people get so much stone?

[abstract warren]

Keep accumulating from mining

[rotund parrot]

Yeah just be cautious and make sure you fully clear the first area before opening any other areas

[tacit crystal]

By-product from mining metals, then purely from big boulders around many biomes and pillars in plains.

[idle storm]

Once you get to ashlands you can just blow up an entire stone deposit (even the underground parts) with the trollstav or a lava blob bomb in one shot so farming a couple chests full doesn't take too long

[abstract warren]

Damn still not enough cores for a refiner

[paper marsh]

Bonemass

[rotund parrot]

Getting 5 cores in a single mine is pretty lucky

[terse wagon]

Stone is the easiest, can accumulate early with copper veins.

But the best is plains destroying the large rock obelisks

[shell fjord]

Hey boys - If I manually installed a few mods back in 2025 and want to come back to the game - Do I need to manually update each and single one too?

[strange cradle]

Most likely.

And girls play Valheim too. 😉

Update BepInEx FIRST.

Then Jotunn, then the rest.

And you definitely should upgrade BepInEx.

[red coral]

get in the habit of clearing out the space around ore veins. You'll pick up a bunch of extra rock, plus you'll make sure you don't miss any of the ore

[paper marsh]

Mountains are pretty nice too for getting stone

[red coral]

Yeah stone golems will just smash up the rocks for you if you dodge a couple of times. I just did a silver expedition, only one vein, and I have maybe three/four chests of stone sitting there too

Just because there's a golem spawn nearby

[hard sluice]

undermining stone spires in plains and breaking them is a popular method to collect stones, i think.

[glossy heath]

it's probably the quickest way to get stone, just also the quickest to run out of since they're not quite as plentiful as most other sources

[hard sluice]

i guess you could make a stone factory using a lot of 'rockys' : P

[red coral]

I kinda timed it one night, I'd say it's quick for doing one spire. But if you want to do multiple spires the time taken to pack up your portal and trudge over the plains to the next nearest spire adds a bunch of time. Especially because Lox herds take time to manage and the amount of spires per plains is usually only 1-2

[hard sluice]

in my current world, i dig mistland 'mountains' for stone.
theres plenty of stones there, and its next to my base(which is very convenient in a no-portal world..!)

i make it fun and dig tunnels/paths in the mountains at the same time.
making paths is fun to me, somehow.

[red coral]

I haven't tried those, do they break down like plains spires?

[hard sluice]

i don't think so. i just mine them normally.

[red coral]

Fair

I need those spires for flying over the mist anyways

[hard sluice]

theres a lot of stone in a single 'mistland spire', from my experience. i never made it 'flat' yet.

[red coral]

For the record, I had exhausted all my discovered spires and I only got about half the stone I needed for my base

But tonight, mining for silver, I got enough stone to last me a while now

It's very easy to overlook stone as a resource when you have limited inventory space. For a long time it was the first thing I threw out

Then I discovered black marble which is almost easier to get if you do it right

[hard sluice]

i often pick them up, and when i have 50, i craft a pile of stone and move on. sometimes i grab them back if i'm in the area. else it just stays there.
i do the same with wood*

[red coral]

Yeah same. I honestly forget about them more often than not

[hard sluice]

same, but in my current playthrough, i have no map, so they serve as waypoints also.

[red coral]

I was using bone piles and then I unlocked the arbalest and suddenly I needed all my bone back haha

Tonight I saw a bear take a swipe at Odin

Yeah it was like the wilderness was breaking his rules

[steel mica]

At that point I might aswell just summon moder or mine it myself

You see stone golem's attacks looks like it should do aoe damage to the stone node

But rather its just destroying one part of the stone node each attack

[hard sluice]

i guess the most efficient way to get stone is using the siege weapons, but thats for end-game only.

[shy marlin]

Trollstav is great too

[steel mica]

If trollstav could destroy other resources like petrified bones and soft tissue... and for some reason it cant destroy birch and oak, it would easily be S tier rank for me

[shy marlin]

🤔 can the actual troll destroy birch/oak?

[light moat]

I’m pretty sure 🤔

[dapper jay]

Hello everyone

I'd like to know if theres a lore for this game or something.

[shy marlin]

yea there's lore but it's pretty surface level

[dapper jay]

Do you mind telling me a little about it or link to anything that explains it briefly?

please ping if you do. Thank you for your time. <3

[shy marlin]

Basically odin banished a bunch of big bads to the 10th world valheim and you've been sent to valheim to kill them and in return you're promised to go to valhalla

[dapper jay]

Thank you very much for Explain this

*explaining

[tacit crystal]

Wasn't it one go to way to acquire early finewood before 5th anniversary update?

[dapper jay]

i think so.

but i just fall trees and roll them around

[shy marlin]

normal troll yea, not summoned troll

[tacit crystal]

Right, summoned troll had lower tool tier iirc.

[shy marlin]

Also lmao, lemme quick get some flametal so i can get early finewood

[dapper jay]

ummoned? Is it a new mechanic or function?

[tacit crystal]

Staff in Ashlands summons undead troll to fight everything, even the caster.

[nocturne wolf]

Both enemies have tool tier 2 on all attacks except the throw

[limpid sigil]

Is the brutal grind going to change with 1.0? Currently it feels like it's only there to add more "playtime"

[tacit crystal]

It's adjustable from world modifiers.

[limpid sigil]

Even with 3x, it's unreasonable, for metals you are essentially an assembly line worker.

There is no reason why you should babysit each metal 10 pieces at a time

Currently valheim is more grinding and less exploring and combat, and i'm wondering if that will change

It can be helped with QoL mods and such, but some aspects are fundamentally flawed in EA

[tacit crystal]

I see no problem: build multiple smelters, put all metals to process, go explore/combat/gathering/else meanwhile.

Rinse and repeat.

[limpid sigil]

So build at least 8-10 smelters

Why not change smelters so they can be user edited to how many metal it can hold? It would be a "minor" change

[tacit crystal]

I usually have 3-5, which is enough for me.

[limpid sigil]

Wouldn't change much at all, would be customizable but it would also be a huge step in the right direction

[limpid sigil]

3 is brutally low for me, i felt like an operator personally, 4-5 gets decent above that is ok

My point is that it could be solved with additional game modifiers

So it feels less like manual labor for those who don't like that aspect

By vanilla settings, it could be the same as it is, you get what i'm saying?

It was just an idea

[tacit crystal]

Luckily we have https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202312684364910612 for such ideas. 👍

[limpid sigil]

I mean, i'm sure it was suggested before? I would be amazed if i was the first one to come up with something like that

[weary breach]

You can also fully load your furnaces, go to sleep, then your metals will be fully smelted if you had enough coal in them

[limpid sigil]

That is true if you are near the evening

Otherwise, it's just the regular waiting

[tacit crystal]

At least I don't remember additional smelter/furnace changes for how much they can hold being suggested.

[tacit crystal]

You can sleep after mid day.

[limpid sigil]

Yeah, but that's not really a solution, it would work well as a tip, if you could sleep any time you want

[tacit crystal]

Iirc you could skip the whole day before H&H update but it was changed then. Some people did lots of sleeping for processes being ready faster.

[limpid sigil]

And what was the problem with that?

I mean if people were sleeping to speed up processing, it just showcased the core issue with that part of the gameplay loop.

The devs made a bad change in that regard i believe

[nocturne wolf]

if you want faster processing make more processing stations

otherwise there's no incentive to get more than 5 surtling cores for all the smelting you ever do

[limpid sigil]

My whole topic was less about the speed and more about the "tedious grind" part of it, where its just busywork to pad out gametime

[shy marlin]

Surely there's a mod for this

[limpid sigil]

Well half the reasonable stuff in valheim are mods, so maybe.

I mean, armor not being in your inventory once equiped has been requested for an eternity now

It might have been one of the first qol mods and that wasn't "yesterday"

[limpid sigil]

https://thunderstore.io/c/valheim/p/Ruijven/BetterSmelting/

You were right though, a quick google gave me this, thanks

[shy marlin]

me personally, I enjoy making 3 smelters and what not and goin thru the grind myself, but I can see how not everyone enjoys that

[pliant hatch]

If you want faster processing, make sure you got everything loaded up in the morning, do whatever you want to do during day time, pick up the items in the afternoon / evening. Load up the processing station again, go to sleep.
Pick things up in the morning and repeat the above.

I'm working with a single processing station in my gameplay and with this method I'm still able to harvest double batches a day.

[tacit crystal]

Survival games tend to lean to some level of material grinding. 👀

[idle storm]

i tend to just load up my smelters and then go do something else instead of sitting around. I've handled stuff with my current gear before, i can do it for one ingame day longer instead of hiding in my base

[chrome badge]

What some people call padding out gameplay, I call approaching systems with detail and realism.

🤷

[upper crow]

mayonase

[chrome badge]

And mayonnaise yes Noah thank you.

[upper crow]

[shy marlin]

🤔 there's also something to be said that feels like you actually crafted and produced the new weapon you made by going thru the chore of it all

[light moat]

This might come as a bit of a surprise… but some players actually enjoy the grind

Something that kinda bums me out these days is that the term grind has turned into this derogatory term. Sometimes you just gotta put in work to get the goods

[pliant hatch]

Yeah, but nowadays we also have to deal with a generation that considers a 40 hour work week as a grind.
While it was pretty common when I started working my job 40 years ago.

So with that in mind, everything that lasts "too long" is considered a grind nowadays.

[idle storm]

not just deragatory but also inflationary. I've played grindy games. Valheim isn't one of them.

[candid basalt]

MMOs are grind. You get a chance at a drop once a week to eventually make the item that is instantly useless next patch

[supple cipher]

does anyone have a seed with the new starting early axes?

[tacit crystal]

Path of Exile is what I'd consider grind.

[candid basalt]

All seeds do

The parts are in meadows

[tacit crystal]

Try this secret seed: ||earlyaxes||.

[idle storm]

Even diablo 2 was already way more grindy than Valheim

and pre-WoW MMO's had you take days or weeks to grind out a single level at the higher end

[candid basalt]

I was about to mention EverQuest. Not even a wiki to help 😂

[idle storm]

oh god everquest

[shy marlin]

I'd consider grinding literal thousands upon thousands of core wood for a build grind but that's entirely self imposed

[idle storm]

i think i still have PTSD 😂

[candid basalt]

And 10% xp loss on death including level loss

[idle storm]

pretty common pre-WoW too

[tacit crystal]

I have one self imposed grind challenge: collect all ashwood possible.

[candid basalt]

Yeah if you want a big build it’s a grind. But to actually play and beat the bosses not really a grind so much

[steel mica]

Late response but yes the troll itself can cut down the trees, but a gigantic fiery meteor explosion cant even make a dent on a wood

[candid basalt]

I got an iron chest full so far

Also managed to tame another asksvin. I got 1 star egg production now

And some asksvin parts as I had to cull the normals

[steel mica]

Good now make an asksvin breeder for even more eggs

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, but the thing with ashwood is that they cannot be replanted so they're finite resource.

[candid basalt]

My egg production is in the meadows. I have 8 adults and half a stack of eggs so far

[candid basalt]

And they fall down themselves which is stupid

[shy marlin]

I challenge you to get all core wood in your world, it's technically finite.

[idle storm]

they fall down from being damaged by cinder rain

[steel mica]

Im so curious I am farming a ton of 2** asksvin to see how fast they can kill fader

[idle storm]

if you want to protect an ashwood groove put a shield gen in it

[tacit crystal]

But they drop cones tho.

[shy marlin]

not at a self sufficient rate

[candid basalt]

lol all of Ashlands full of bubbles and tamed asksvin. Sounds like paradise

[tacit crystal]

Ah, so lots of 🎰 with the drops.

[idle storm]

That IS the plan, yes 😋

[steel mica]

Trees I swear are sentient, they give you no seeds when you want them but when YOU dont want them they just keep on dropping

[idle storm]

currently stocking up on 2-star eggs for my next breeding outpost

[shy marlin]

my working theory is that there's always a dev watching you and controlling drop rates like that.

[candid basalt]

Ashwood I will import from another server when it gets scarce

[hard sluice]

how many flamemetal leviathans are supposed to spawn..? anyone knows?

[idle storm]

i went on an acorn spree when i was farming for the early axes. They were dropping like crazy for some reason. I have 60+acorns now which should last a while.

[shy marlin]

should last forever, acorns are self sufficient and then some

and it's a large enough sample size

[steel mica]

I have 150+ just decaying in my barrels

[idle storm]

well yeah, if you have just 5-10 you can easily run out if you get a bad crop

[candid basalt]

I should plant an oak forest. Haven’t done that yet

[steel mica]

I prefer cutting birch due to being easier to cut and mass plant

[idle storm]

which was my problem before since i like to leave most oaks standing around areas i frequent

[shy marlin]

I use oaks and me and a friendly neighborhood troll tag team the oaks

• elder power and I can get a cart of finewood in like 20 min

[idle storm]

troll to knock down the trees, then run over them with a sprinting lox to chop up the fallen logs. Goes super fast.

[shy marlin]

oooh that's creative

[steel mica]

I suddenly remember my first time capturing a troll for this one purpose lmao

[idle storm]

sprinting lox does chop damage in a big area so it's basically made for this

[steel mica]

If you can find a troll with a log you're golden for your tree farm

[strange cradle]

I just planted three oaks in the nearer area and cut/replant them down when I need them.

[shy marlin]

technically no log troll is better

but truthfully doesn't really matter

for wood at least

[steel mica]

In the end both makes chopping trees faster than by yourself

[strange cradle]

I still chop oaks with a bronze axe to this day. 😉

Why the hurry? I'm in no hurry.

[idle storm]

i don't think i've even crafted a bronze axe since my first or second run through 😅

[steel mica]

ATLEAST USE THE ELDER POWER 😭

[strange cradle]

Nope. 😄

Again, I'm in no hurry. 😄

Valheim is my relax game.

I take it... one oak... at a time.

[steel mica]

I don't like wasting daytime so I like to do things fast and efficient

[strange cradle]

I like to enjoy the scenery.

[steel mica]

And multitask

[strange cradle]

I don't do any of that.

[idle storm]

i actually wish i could skip to evening sometimes. I can make it daytime whenever it isn't by simply sleeping after all.

[strange cradle]

Never understood speed runners.

This game is so beautiful and serene.

[steel mica]

They go zoom

thats all

[idle storm]

not my cup of tea either. I like to take my time.

[strange cradle]

I've got thousands of hours in this game. And most of it is in the same world.

[steel mica]

Don't get me wrong I sometimes find myself looking at the horizon from time to time

[strange cradle]

This is the way.

[steel mica]

And this will be happening alot more once I get working on my mistlands multi purpose base

[idle storm]

Well yeah, you'll be looking at the horizon to check for gjall 😁

[fossil delta]

Asksvin breeding does not work the same way as the rest. Left the eggs alone for 8 game days and instead of coming back to full adults, they are just hatchlings.

[steel mica]

True

[strange cradle]

Never grew Asksvins... 😛

[steel mica]

The eggs and hatchlings have different timers

[strange cradle]

I need to try it.

[idle storm]

you need to come back once for them to pop from egg to hatchling and another time (50 minutes later iirc) for them to grow up. Same for chickens i believe?

[fossil delta]

So do chickens. So I expected it to work much the same way, but apparently not.

[strange cradle]

Yeah, chickens take about three to four ingame days.

[steel mica]

Any fire by chance?

My asksvin breeder has fire in every corner

[fossil delta]

Yep. They would not have hatched otherwise.

[idle storm]

you only need fire for eggs to hatch, not for hatchlings to grow up

[steel mica]

I know just the eggs

same mechanics with chicken eggs

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I have the hatchlings wandering my second base freely.

[steel mica]

BE SURE TO COVER ALL HOLES

[fossil delta]

All 46 of them.

[idle storm]

my asksvin breeder has a door to the outside of my farm wall. If a raid happens i just open it

[steel mica]

The thing is what I've noticed about asksvin pathfinding is that there eyes is like on their feet

[fossil delta]

The buggers manage to get over my walls.

[steel mica]

I have mine caged in a room

[fossil delta]

Like I said, there are 46 of them.

[steel mica]

Heres my base: #building-screenshots message

[steel mica]

They do like to piggyback one another

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I expected that, but thats not how it got over my wall. They can apparently just crawl up walls.

[steel mica]

Lol

[idle storm]

terrain walls yes, build walls no

most build walls at least

[candid basalt]

My walls are 12m high with wood beams acting as fencing pointing inwards

[fossil delta]

It was a terrain wall, but its sides are flat. I make my walls look nice.

[idle storm]

i just dug a pit and put a roof on top

[steel mica]

Asksvins AI pathfinding is weird

[idle storm]

terrain walls are never really flat, that's the issue.

[steel mica]

If they see any amount of hole, whether it is small or big

[fossil delta]

I don't mind their getting out. Its meadows with plains a little ways off. So far nothing has killed them.

[steel mica]

THEY WILL TRY TO GO THROUGH IT

[atomic glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

Went to the ashlands for the first time last night, me and my roommate went straight after beating the queen… we weren’t ready at all, I heard about all the enemies I just didn’t believe it was as bad as everyone says, boy were we wrong

[idle storm]

It's actually been nerfed

heavily

[steel mica]

Welcome to the Ashlands my friend

[candid basalt]

It used to be so much worse

[fossil delta]

Yeah, but it can still get bad. Really bad.

[idle storm]

PTB day 1 was... an experience for sure

[steel mica]

Back then it wasn't just hell, ITS THE EMBODIMENT OF HELL

[idle storm]

lol yeah, i must've died a couple dozen times just getting a foothold base down

[steel mica]

Early testing Ashlands was not fun at all

[idle storm]

but it was also the most fun i've had in Valheim for a long time

[atomic glacier]

Was there always all the rocks to navigate through to get to land?

[idle storm]

there were more

[atomic glacier]

Dear god…

[idle storm]

they already thinned them out once

[steel mica]

Previously alot

[fossil delta]

This last time we had a Morgyn, several asksvin and I don't know how many warriors and twitchers. We fought for a long time. We had a fair number of trophies too.

[idle storm]

also reduced the spawn rates twice iirc and fixed a bug that would alert all enemies in range whenever a tree took fire damage

which happens a lot in Ashlands

[steel mica]

I mean to be FAIR a war broke out at the ashlands

So expect to fight alot

[fossil delta]

Oh, and vultures and eventually a Valkyrie showed up.

[atomic glacier]

This is our first play through and we try as hard as we can to avoid spoilers so it’s all a natural experience, so we didn’t even really know what to expect

[candid basalt]

I need valkyrie feathers... sigh

[fossil delta]

So even now an Ashlands landing can get pretty ugly.

[steel mica]

Your only hope really was making a terrain wall base

[atomic glacier]

The Morgyn took no damage, it was terrifying

[steel mica]

You're lucky to get a safe area to land like on my second playthrough

[candid basalt]

best way to play

[steel mica]

But otherwise 90% you're fighting tooth and nail to get a foothold

[fossil delta]

I did, eventually. Where we landed was a big pile of 4 of those large rocks. Right outside a Fader altar. So I put a terrain wall around that.

[steel mica]

And then a lava blob comes in and pops the rocks

[fossil delta]

Building a terrain wall while dodging all of that was... an experience.

[steel mica]

that would suck 😭

[candid basalt]

Our current world, I was first to ashlands. I set up a small outpost just offshore. It's still my focal point, and a buddy has since claimed a fortress, but hasn't built it up yet

[fossil delta]

Twice. Nearly completely destroyed one section. So had to rebuild it.

[steel mica]

Possibly the most annoying thing in ptb ashlands was the... trio...

If you know you know

[idle storm]

well it did brick my save twice

but that's what backups are for

[steel mica]

yesimadebackups

[atomic glacier]

I think we’re gonna take a lot of prep time post queen to re attempt the ashlands

[idle storm]

good idea

[steel mica]

You're not just prepping up your viking, your boat aswell

You need supplies on the landing

[fossil delta]

I think the plan is the most important thing. You don't really need much in the way of mats, other than to support your plan.

[steel mica]

You're BOUND to die once during or after the landing

[atomic glacier]

We just need to get a shield and portal down and we can fight from there

[fossil delta]

No, we didin't die during our landing. Came close, several times, but we managed not to die. Meads are good for helping to not die with so many enemies.

[idle storm]

Current ashlands is easily doable without dying if you're well prepared

[sudden sluice]

Code 329872

[fossil delta]

Having our mead and getting up a earth wall were probably the two key things to help us not die.

[steel mica]

Alot more doable, back then you're practically invading a kingdom trying to get a foothold

[idle storm]

lol yeah

[steel mica]

As all the mobs swarm you

[idle storm]

these days as long as you bring some aoe damage and get a terrain wall up asap you should be fine

[steel mica]

If you find a ruined grausten tower structure close-ish to shore thats a pretty good base to setup

[fossil delta]

I don't think I even used Demolisher during our landing. If I did, it wasn't much. Once or twice.

[atomic glacier]

We found one, but the morgyn came out to it and started smoke checking us

[steel mica]

I barely used demolisher on my second playthrough on ashlands

Only used it against queen adds

[fossil delta]

Yeah, the Morgyn are the biggest pain. Aside from Valkyries.

[idle storm]

Demolisher basically carried me through my first ashlands run

once you get used to the timing it's an incredibly powerful weapon

[fossil delta]

I definitely love Demolisher.

[steel mica]

To be fair this was back when we all had zero experience on what the ashlands was like so pretty much everyone was running around like chickens trying not to die

[fossil delta]

Not my primary, but it can make a huge difference with a large number of mobs.

[idle storm]

and i was running around like a looney toons character smashing things with my giant hammer

and trying not to die

[steel mica]

Now some of us have experienced the traumatizing experience that is ptb ashlands which is practically stuck in our core memory

[idle storm]

on the upside current ashlands is pretty relaxing

[steel mica]

Allowing us to be more Ill equipped for future playthrough

[steel mica]

Pretty much yeah, occasionally some horrors here and there but not as much as before

[idle storm]

well obviously. I expect DN PTB to be worse than Ashlands

[steel mica]

I hope... NOT

[idle storm]

it'll be nerfed anyway, let me have this

[steel mica]

I don't wanna go through that again

[fossil delta]

The Mistlands ptb convinced me not to do the Ashlands ptb, so I missed out on all that craziness. Which is why I didn't do it. Sounds like it was even far crazier than Mistlands. Which, again, is why I skipped it.

[steel mica]

The closest thing to getting absolutely maximum ptsd was my first time encountering... a goddamn 2 star asksvin

You would not believe what I was feeling back then encountering that purple boi

[fossil delta]

I still don't like encountering 2 star anything when I first land in Ashlands. Except twitchers. They are pretty easy to deal with.

Once I get the Ashlands HP foods, then sure. At least then I can block effectively.

[steel mica]

You're not blocking a 2star giant angry purple neck

I was fighting for my LIFE trying to get that purple boi home

[fossil delta]

I might be able to now. I have the flametal shield and all the foods. I have to find one, to find out. The 1 stars are easy.

[steel mica]

I was low on food, low on meads, no rested buff, and practically relying on lingering stamina mead for stamina regen

And yet survived to tell the tale

[fossil delta]

Well, that was the real problems. 😄

[strange cradle]

With level 3 flametal armor, flametal tower shield and good health food, you can actually block a two star charred warrior.

[fossil delta]

Yep.

[steel mica]

I forgot to bring a portal, I was already deep in uncharted ashland areas

[strange cradle]

I was surprised that it was working the first time around. I was going.. imagonnadieimagonnadieimagonna... woah... it worked!

[steel mica]

iirc with carapace buckler and 3 highest health food you could parry lord reto?

Someone talked about it but cant exactly remember who

[fossil delta]

Don't know. Everyone has bad mouthed that sword so much I have yet to bother with Reto,

[strange cradle]

The sword isn't really worth it, IMHO. I just did it, so I can have it.

It now hangs on my wall. 😄

I may need it in Northrend... eh... Deep North... 😄

[fossil delta]

If so I can always go back and get it.

[steel mica]

If enemies in DN are weak to fire then possibly worth it to get, but even the current gem enchantment should do well in DN

[fossil delta]

Thats what I am assuming.

[steel mica]

Especially... jade

Love that enchantment

[fossil delta]

Jade is the only thing we have found so far. Only one Citadel too.

[strange cradle]

I love both the root and lightning enchantments. Blood... not so much.

[steel mica]

I did suggest some ideas here on what could be a buff idea for bloodstone

[fossil delta]

Definitely not a fan of blood.

[steel mica]

Here: #valheim-chat message

[strange cradle]

Both jade and iolite have a utility that work for me. I try not to get hit as much as possible, so bloodstone is just not working for me.

[steel mica]

Damage increase is not enough really

[strange cradle]

I agree.

[steel mica]

You go from 3 shot to 2 shot

[steel mica]

These two gems are currently doing fine, both have pretty good utility

[fossil delta]

Thats my problem with it. Sure, I often get into it with too many mobs, so get close to dying, but that increase doesn't make the risk of getting that close to dying worth it.

[tacit crystal]

Bloodstone weapons look badass tho.

[strange cradle]

True.

[steel mica]

Jade gives you breathing room or more time to dish out dmg

[fossil delta]

If only cosmetics kept you alive.

I do like Jade on the bow.

[tacit crystal]

Jade is probably my favorite. Klossen and Primal axes ftw.

[steel mica]

I will give it that, I do like the red+black coloration

I've been using jade alot

Especially on my 2 favourite heavy hitting weapons

[tacit crystal]

Bleeding Slayer is fine looking one.

[steel mica]

2h swords and crossbows

[steel mica]

I did use bleeding slayer a good chunk of my first time in ashlands

But on my second playthrough I played around a bit more with the two other enhancements

[strange cradle]

I have both thundering and primal niddhög and I'm loving them.

I also have that massive two hand blood sword. Is that the slayer?

[steel mica]

Bleeding slayer yes

Best looking slayer imo

[strange cradle]

Looks massively cool. Better than Dyrnwyn.

But for utility, I rather stay with Niddhög.

Or the most underrated weapon for Ashlands: a lvl 4 Mistwalker! It's so good.

[fossil delta]

Niddhög is the sword? The one handed?

[strange cradle]

Yes.

I always use a shield. Need it, because I'm old and slow.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I'll be trying that out this time. My sword skill is my highest melee skill this time. Last time was clubs. So I did the mace.

[steel mica]

Nidhogg = 1h sword
Splitnir = Spear
Slayer = 2h sword
and lastly
flametal mace lol

[strange cradle]

Sword is really fast. That's what I like about it.

Spears are fast, but they dish out pierce, which is not really useful in Ashlands.

[fossil delta]

Swords seem to have more reach too.

[idle storm]

personally i'm a big fan of the iolite splitnier

[strange cradle]

Or most areas.

[steel mica]

Funny how all other melee types have unique name except the mace

[idle storm]

with spear attack speed you get a lot of lightning procs

well yeah the mace has unique names for every gem version

[steel mica]

No like the non enhanced mace

Its just flametal mace

[silk token]

lightning zerker axes are hilarious when they proc multiple times in a short period, you just delete nearby mobs

[frigid anvil]

√2 wooden beam when

And 2√2 wooden beam

[fossil delta]

They are missing some pieces of Gausten. Guess they expect us to always want to do rounded roof tops.

[steel mica]

What style should I build my mistlands base as? 🤔

[frigid anvil]

mage’s tower

[fossil delta]

Goth. Its black marble, so embrace it.

[idle storm]

well i've always wanted to build a castle wrapped around one of those large rock spires

never found a spot i was really satisfied with though

black marble with grausten accents looks pretty nice imo

[fossil delta]

I found some gorgeous build areas this play through. Just don't want to invest the extra time to gathering mats.

[idle storm]

or you could try to carefully dig under one and build the entire thing in a network of tunnels

i did that for a sapfarm once. It's pretty cool but i suggest making a backup before starting the terraforming

[fossil delta]

That was my second build I did in Mistlands.

I didn't have any performance issues with it, but I don't own a potato PC either.

[steel mica]

This black marble supply wont survive

I have like 4 iron chest of bm

[fossil delta]

I'm using BM chests, but I might have 1 thats 3/4 full.

[steel mica]

If trollstav could destroy petrified bone, I'd be swimming in a pool of bm

[fossil delta]

Is that the fracturing stave?

[steel mica]

The fracturing staff is different to the trollstav

[idle storm]

the fracturing one sets things on fire. The trollstav summons trolls

though FYI, the roots from a staff of the wild have pickaxe tier 4

[steel mica]

The fracturing fires a cluster fure ball

[steel mica]

REALLY?

[fossil delta]

Just wondering. My wife made that stave this play through to see what it does, since we have so many spare mats. Obviously she has not tried it yet.

[steel mica]

please zock confirm 🥺

[idle storm]

yep. Damage is a little low but that's why you can spam them

[steel mica]

HELLLL YEAH

Im invading every single mistlands on sight

[fossil delta]

That would be a use for magic that I could get behind.

[idle storm]

trollstav actually blows up entire iron and copper deposits in one shot

[steel mica]

I use heavy + magic so this us a win for me

[idle storm]

even the underground parts

it's incredibly convenient for late game mining build resources

[steel mica]

Give trollstav pickaxe tier of 4-5 and it'll sky rocket to SSS tier ranking for my weapon tier list

[fossil delta]

Now thats good to know. They can have a good bit under ground. IE the swords in Mistlands, for example.

[idle storm]

it also makes farming stone in the black forest very easy

[steel mica]

For magic users its a damn win for sure

I like a mix if magic and melee

But I always go melee

during combat

[fossil delta]

Well, its a way in which I'd be willing to use magic.

[idle storm]

i mean you don't exactly need magic skill to use it? Craft a lvl 1 trollstav, eat some eitr food, done

though lava blob bombs also work but they only have a tool tier of 0

[steel mica]

No just eat some eitr and go to town on resources

Like I said I'm a heavy + magic user

My endgame diet is FFE

so trollstav is instantly A tier for me

[burnt glen]

FFE?

[steel mica]

feast feast eitr

[idle storm]

I did run Embla robes with FEE or triple-eitr for a long time but recently i've switched to vile armor with FSE instead

[burnt glen]

ah I forgot abt feasts, thanks

[fossil delta]

Finally made that Mistlands feast. 65/65 is pretty sweet. Is Ashlands the same, or better?

[idle storm]

that stam regen is just too good to pass up

[steel mica]

Slighty better in stats

[burnt glen]

I believe ashlands is 75/75

[idle storm]

and 5 more eitr

[steel mica]

But still 2 feast that also gives eitr is really damn good

Probably the most worth it feast to mass produce

[fossil delta]

True. Didn't pay attention to that, but now I will.

[idle storm]

especially because the ashlands and mistlands feasts together let you use the bubble staff without using eitr food

so you're running nearly as much hp & stam as a pure melee but with bubble shield on top of that

[steel mica]

Combine it with marinated greens you got one very powerful viking

It could go either way
FFE
FFH
FFS

Allows you to lob 1 fire or 1 wild staff or 1 proc shield

Very versatile

[fossil delta]

Well, time for me to go do some Asksvin breeding. I finally captured a starred Askvin. So I am converting my breeding over to them. I even had to murder a Dvergr to keep it alive.

[steel mica]

Embr: Im gonna have to kill you I'm gonna have to kill you... you left me no choice you left me no choice.

Remembered watching her stream lol

[fossil delta]

Yeah, figures Valheim would have a dvergr spawn where I made my capture pen, when I finally bring home a starred one. Damn near killed it too. I thought the dvergr would lose.

[steel mica]

Dvergrs rogues are quite strong especially their ashlands counter part

I think they have increase dmg and hp, not sure

[fossil delta]

IT sure looks like they do. I mean, he would have won if I hadn't stepped in and murdered him.

[steel mica]

Lol

Dont attack a 2star dvergr rogue Ashland variant

You'll regret it

[idle storm]

ashlands dvergr are brutal

you just don't notice because they constantly get swarmed

[nocturne wolf]

the ashlands dvergr are balanced only for fighting enemies rather than players too

[fossil delta]

I don't ever intentionally attack them. Until now. I worked hard getting that Asksvin home.

[idle storm]

but i've seen 2 non-starred rogues take down a valkyrie

[steel mica]

I'VE SEEN A 2STAR DVERGR SOLO A SWARM OF WARRIORS, A VALKYRIE, AND A MORGEN ALL AT THE SAME TIME

[idle storm]

little guys don't mess around

[fossil delta]

I wish we had some Dvergr back up for the Valkyrie that was hanging out over the Citadel.

[steel mica]

And was still left with half its hp

[fossil delta]

Citadels are tough enough. First time we also had to deal with a Valkyrie.

[idle storm]

that brings up an idea... has anyone ever tried transporting dvergr mages by boat?

[steel mica]

If you encounter a 2star dvergr IT IS VERY MUCH WORTH IT YO KEEP EM ALIVE

[steel mica]

I've had this idea for so long

But I believe it wont work

[idle storm]

like load up your drakkar with a dozen of them and ship them to the ashlands

[fossil delta]

They won't stay on the boat.

[steel mica]

Because dvergrs are programmed to return to their settlement or area

[idle storm]

shame

[steel mica]

So they'll walk off the boat

[fossil delta]

Thats why they will stay in a tower, even if you tear down the original and build a new one.

[steel mica]

Yep

[idle storm]

i usually just push them onto the battlements and build a wall behind them to make them stay there

[steel mica]

If you have time and patience you could honestly do it

[fossil delta]

I've done similar. 😄

[steel mica]

But fiddling with the dvergrs AI will probably make me lose it lol

[idle storm]

it wasn't too terrible

[steel mica]

Plus they are as heavy as the player

[idle storm]

they usually switch between walking and standing around every 15-20 seconds or so so if you push them when they're standing it's no trouble

[steel mica]

So pushing them can sometimes be annoying as it'll cancel out the force

[fossil delta]

It helps if they walk in the direction you want them to go, even if not exactly the direction you want.

[steel mica]

Now the real prize is getting a healer mage back at base

Its practically a free healer for your rogues

[idle storm]

i had a mistland outpost with 3 healers, a frost mage and a 2-star fire mage

then the Gjall came and i had neither an outpost nor any dvergr

[steel mica]

LOL

Yeah rogues are needed

Since they have consistent dmg

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I hate those fire mages. For destroying my beautiful future towers before I could even take possession.

[steel mica]

Mages are a bit chaotic

[idle storm]

Yeah, the fire mage just blew up the outpost and then the gjall murdered them with ticks

[steel mica]

Fire mages are the most destructive

If not more destructive than the gjall itself

[fossil delta]

More. Far more.

[idle storm]

You can have a gjall bombarding a black marble or grausten base for a bit

[steel mica]

90% of my witness is the fire mage destroying their home before a gjall could even open fire

[idle storm]

their fireball damage isn't that high

[fossil delta]

Doesn't help that their towers are in horrible repair when we find them.

[light moat]

Not unusual for the mage to blow up their containers so you can simply grab the extractor without consequence

[steel mica]

Alrighty boys seeya thanks for the extractor, have fun with the gjall

[nocturne wolf]

it would be fun if that made the dvergr fight each other

[steel mica]

The healer variant and rogues are probably the best

2nd being the frost/ice mage

[paper marsh]

Terrible take

Rogues are very weak

And for combat the healer does mediocre damage

[steel mica]

Atleast they dont destroy their homes

[nocturne wolf]

dverger arbalest only does 30 knockback, players has 200

[steel mica]

I mean to be fair our crossbows are far larger than our viking

Vs the dvergrs, they are probably wielding smaller hand held crossbows

[haughty geode]

wait, there are news about 1.0 ?

[steel mica]

No fully fledge update or information as of rn but we are given sneak peaks

[cosmic sail]

Is it just me or do serpents give up the chase sooner?

Dragging them to shore feels like much more of a hassle with them turning around constantly after just a short distance from their spawn.

[tacit crystal]

Usually mobs tend to deaggro if they cannot hit you or anything else for a while.

[cosmic sail]

Yeah, that's always been the case but now I feel like the serpents de-aggro immediately after a set distance from their spawn.

If I can get their attention again then they might bite once before turning around to swim away immediately again.

Could be an unlucky couple in a row, or I'm misremembering the last time I went serpent hunting.

[fossil delta]

You do have to let them "bite" your boat fairly often. Which is why I only try to take them to shore if I am close to shore in the first place. Especially if I am in the Karve.

[cosmic sail]

Ah, maybe that's what's going on. The last few were found during stormy weather with high winds. They weren't able to reach my boat at all really.

I guess I wasn't paying attention to all their whiffing.

[fossil delta]

They also cannot keep up with you if your using your sail. You have to row.

If your hunting for serpents, you should only row.

[cosmic sail]

I've had good luck with a half-mast sail, but yes, it's a little more surefire to row.

[fossil delta]

If you use your sail while hunting, your probably getting too far ahead to even see a serpent that spawns to your rear.

Even just rowing, its often a near thing for my wife or I to even see them.

[honest frigate]

is there an easy way to farm stats

[cosmic sail]

As in skills?

[cosmic sail]

I've been under the impression that they won't just spawn in range and you need to be moving around to find them. Is that not the case?

[bright kiln]

WHEN UPDATE!!!

[idle storm]

Kinda. The map is divided into zones and every zone has its own respawn timer. Since the respawn timer for serpents is several minutes long and each individual spawn chance isn't particularly high moving in one of the four cardinal directions (to move through as many zones as fast as possible) is your best bet to maximize serpent encounters

[cosmic sail]

Interesting. So maybe trolling around in a broad circle or pacing the ocean near the coast will work to find serpents near enough to drag ashore.

[idle storm]

You can still spawn serpents sitting still but you basically get 1-2 chances per night instead of dozens

the respawn timer is 6 minutes or so iirc? So basically 1-2 spawn chances per zone per night

so ideally you're sailing between two different outposts from sunset to sunrise

[cosmic sail]

I see.

[idle storm]

start in the evening at one, arrive in the morning at the other, sail back the next time you go serpent hunting

that usually gets me 2-4 serpents per night on average

[cosmic sail]

I have a large swath of ocean around my fishing hut. It may not be quite as optimal, but I might just do a wide arc that starts and ends there.

At a rowing pace I would be moving all night without backtracking.

[idle storm]

should be fine then

just make sure it's actually ocean biome

[cosmic sail]

Of course. There's a strip of "black forest" but it's narrow.

[red coral]

Speaking of respawn tiners, I need a vile trophy, how soon can I come back to the same spot to get one

[idle storm]

vile respawn timers is 1 hour+ iirc

[red coral]

Thanks

[cosmic sail]

Well I did get me a serpent, but rowing without the sail certainly didn't work out for the karve.

[idle storm]

yeah no go full sail

better to possibly miss something spawning behind you if it gets you double or more the spawn chances

[cosmic sail]

I did no sail just to bait it into my little kill box. It wouldn't run off if it could attempt a few bites.

Problem is: It landed every bite, as I expected, destroying my boat in a very short distance. I was barely outside of draw distance and I didn't actually make it all the way back.

[paper marsh]

Longship is definitely better yeah

And if you really wanna keep it interested to bring it all the way to sure don't let it get every bite. Let it get one nibble every once in a while

But it can be tough

[broken kraken]

its not

[haughty geode]

why is it called "game preview" in XBox store?
is it full early access?

[nocturne wolf]

That's microsoft's name for early access

[frigid anvil]

The whole game as it is released right now is available on xbox

[haughty geode]

and there's also like 'preview' aka demo?..

[nocturne wolf]

that lets you try the game for a short time

[haughty geode]

follow up - how to play together from pc and xbox?

any thoughts on what world modifiers I should consider on new multiplayer save?

[nocturne wolf]

If a pc player on steam is hosting they need to enable the crossplay option when hosting the world. On any other platform or store, this is forced on and doesn't show as an option. Then there will be a join code in the pause menu which can be put in the IP box to add a server by anyone joining.

[near furnace]

it's Early Access

diffrent platforms have diffrent names

[haughty geode]

does world save sync between all players? or only host?

[nocturne wolf]

only the host has the world

[near furnace]

world is saved on the host, characters is saved locally on each players hardware (or cloud)

[twin dust]

does this server have a section where we can report griefers and their steam profile? (with proof of course) - that would be helpful so people know what players to avoid. thanks.

[light moat]

I don’t think so, there’s @dusky pivot but that’s more for issues concerning the discord server.

[fossil delta]

They will spawn in range, but its only one check per area. I forget the size of the area, but I think its every 64 meters. So each 64 meter square area, with one check every however many minutes.

I'm glad they numbered the Asksvin eggs, so we know which ones are how many stars.

[fossil delta]

Found a second mysterious rock for the first time in one play through. They do spawn normal rocks.

When placed next to each other.

[shy marlin]

are the rocks one time spawn? or do they respawn after 4/5 hours

[fossil delta]

I got two the first time I noticed.

[merry pebble]

The mysterious rocks or the ones they produce Scales?

[fossil delta]

So they spawn rocks continuously, it seems.

[shy marlin]

like the actual rock

[merry pebble]

I believe they are just one time

[shy marlin]

do you know if they mysterious rock location in the black forest that was added, if those rocks are 1 time?

[fossil delta]

I got two the first time I noticed.

[merry pebble]

That i have no idea sadly

[shy marlin]

word, still have yet to find that poi

[tacit crystal]

It's quite cool POI.

[merry pebble]

I could go test it with commands, but could still take some time

[fossil delta]

And I just picked up a third.

[merry pebble]

On the same location? 👀

[tacit crystal]

I'd also recall pickable mysterious rocks are one time only, like regular stones.

[fossil delta]

Yep. I only have one pair.

Wow! They just popped out two more!

[merry pebble]

Same, since they also take place of a regular stone spawnpoint upon generation

[fossil delta]

So kind of like rock chickens, laying eggs.

[merry pebble]

Wait, are you talking about the regular stones the rockys spawn?

[fossil delta]

Yeah, they apparently spawn continuously when next to each other. Just normal rocks.

[tacit crystal]

2 Rockys near to each other pop out pickable stones, I believe Robert meant that.

[merry pebble]

Ah. We were talking about the mysterious rocks you find in the wild 😄 if those are one time or not

[fossil delta]

Thats where I got them from, in the Black Forest.

Just not a POI.

Are there two kinds of mysterious rocks?

[tacit crystal]

I don't think so.

[fossil delta]

So yes, they do spawn more than one normal rock. 5, so far.

They spawned 2 of them at the same time.

[merry pebble]

Yeah, but you are talking about the regular "stone" that 2 Rockys spawn when next to each other, and the question scales asked was if the "Mysterious rock/rocky" you can find in the wild (at the new POI or randomly) is only one time spawn or if you can find them at the same place again 🙂

[fossil delta]

Oh, thats supposed to be a one time spawn according to what I read. I have yet to find that POI myself.

[tacit crystal]

Also what I've figured that the new POI (currently) spawns only in new worlds created after the update.

[merry pebble]

Previously non-generated area is not enough?

[tacit crystal]

Although genloc might solve that in older worlds.

[fossil delta]

I haven't even tried searching in a current world.

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, I tried find command to locate them in my oldest world, none was found.

Otherwise I think each old world would have been generated again to add that POI in unexplored areas.

[fossil delta]

You had unexplored meadows?

[tacit crystal]

Black forest, and yes, lots of them.

[fossil delta]

Oh, its in a BF. Yeah, I likely have unexplored BF in my oldest worlds too.

Meadows would probably be a no.

[tacit crystal]

Meadows only gets the new axe heads in unexplored areas.

[fossil delta]

FYI, these rocks spawn rocks fairly often. 5 minutes? 10, at most.

[tacit crystal]

I keep my Rockys separated to avoid that stone popping.

[fossil delta]

I'll accept any source of free stone that is that easy. 😄

I wonder if they will pile up while I am not around?

Doubt it, there were only 2 the first time I noticed, and I had been away for several game days.

I was breeding my starred Asksvin at another base.

[tacit crystal]

Probably they pop stones when in the same area.

[light gyro]

i like the new emote wheel

[frigid anvil]

Right as I was finishing working on a big build I got The Ground Is Shaking 😆

They just wanted to see what I was up to!

[regal spoke]

Curious what people do to make "forever worlds"? With a variety of resources being finite. Must be especially hard in a server setting.

[fossil delta]

Yep. They didn't spawn any while I was at my other base. So only when we are near them.

[wanton eagle]

any germans are here ?