valheim-chat

[fossil delta]

Fuling villages are where I get most of my wood after I get into the plains. Then the deer hide and pig skins give me a decent amount of coal in the obliterator.

No, but the crystal battle axe is a lot of fun to use here.

[hoary peak]

AHHH i see i see

im trying to test all the stuff out before i move on

[fossil delta]

You can dismantle the tanning racks, and core wood logs, though.

With work bench and hammer.

[sly verge]

I wonder how close you can build to their village without it being a constant headache

[fossil delta]

Same for bonfires

After you kill them all? They don't respawn.

You only get the usual randoms around that area.

[sly verge]

ah

what if I just left them tho

[fossil delta]

They aggro from a good distance over any noise.

[hoary peak]

i suck at building i wanna get better but man im not creative how do i fix

[sly verge]

look at other ppl's builds in screenshot channel, on reddit or youtube and take what u like

[fossil delta]

Practice is the biggest thing to do, watching you tube vidoes can help too.

[sly verge]

yea there's youtube videos that can show u some tricks and thangs

[fossil delta]

I also got invited to peoples worlds, where they showed me how they did things like chimneys and other complicated stuff.

[sly verge]

also go to ur moms house since she has house hunters on 24/7 and see whats in style

i straight up stole like 80% of my new swamp treehouse from a youtube video

[fossil delta]

You can also look in #1024264966712340510 for dedicated building servers. I got a lot of help on a couple of those a couple of years back. So hopefully people still run them.

[sly verge]

if I build something its always good, for me the problem is the front end paralysis for days before building the first piece

[fossil delta]

I still suck at making things look stylish. But I do solid builds now, instead of the barely standing shacks I started with.

[sly verge]

yea once you've seen what other ppl have built, you can't go back to box with a roof

[fossil delta]

I can, but those are my hunting/exploring shacks. Not my bases.

[hoary peak]

oh my goodness my base is so ugly T_T it has me cackling

its the resource gathering too

[sly verge]

is it possible to just turn mist off (temporarily) like I'm just trying to scope out terrain and take screenshots and I cant see shit

[sly verge]

no shame in 3xing it

[fossil delta]

There is probably dev commands that do it. I presume you mean in Mistlands?

[sly verge]

no, plains actually

this fog effect, I dont think it used to be like this

[fossil delta]

Oh, yeah, that fog can be a major pain.

[sly verge]

might as well be mistlands, now that u mention it, tbh

[fossil delta]

Its always been able to get bad. I really hate it when I am sailing.

[sly verge]

@hoary peak one specific thing that might help is looking up creative roof designs on youtube

[fossil delta]

Get in those water zones where there is no land, but says its plains, then get that pea soup fog. Drives me nuts.

[sly verge]

oofta

[fossil delta]

Then there is land, but you don't know it until you run aground.

[hoary peak]

omg how do i do this?

[sly verge]

world modifier settings before u enter the game

[hoary peak]

is that cheating?

[sly verge]

no

the game is grindy enough

u can 3x your resources and you are still going to hate it sometimes

[hoary peak]

ill do that thank you

[sly verge]

I think a lot of ppl who do aesthetic builds turn off resrouce consumption completely anyway

[hoary peak]

i've been on this world for like 24 hours now since the beginning of the week and the progress has been a grind

[sly verge]

yea I justified it to myself that I was playing solo and the game is balanced around a group of ppl all gathering

but in reality, like how many hours do you want to spend running around collecting berries for the 50th time

or how many dungeons do you want to run

do you want to run the same dungeon 15 times or is 5 good enough

[hoary peak]

ive been running so many dungeons

you're right haha

i like the tediousness of it but it gets too grindy at a point

[sly verge]

the game is so huge without the grind

like do u want to play for 1000 hours or is 300 hours good lol

[fossil delta]

Heh.

[chrome badge]

Personally I think the game is very generous with resources and build costs, compared to other survival games anyways.

[fossil delta]

This is the first one I have gotten into seriously. Never took a liking to the others.

[hoary peak]

300 is fantastic

[sly verge]

I dont even know if 300h is reasonable for a first time player to finish the game? In my original play thru I didn't finish mistlands

[fossil delta]

Personally think you should play your first time on default. See how the developer meant for you to play, etc... but you know your schedule, etc...

[sly verge]

you get to choose when u will want to quit the game

play default, be ready to quit in black forest bc u are tired of mining copper

[fossil delta]

I've done the equivalent for other survival games.

[sly verge]

admittedly, my attention span isnt the best

[fossil delta]

No crime committed in doing that. You paid for the game, you get to decide the value you get out of it.

[sly verge]

but there are also so many other games to enjoy that I'll never get to so why waste time unnecessarily

[hoary peak]

im currently in da swamp rn and its a slog cuz i suck

[sly verge]

someone is going to be like "oh you sweet meadows child"

[chrome badge]

I get excited about mining copper, because I will build a straight road/necessary bridges to cart everything back home after surveying for the nearest large black forest.

[fossil delta]

There is a lot to learn to make things as easy as possible, for sure. Big part of why I took so strongly to this game. I enjoyed figuring that all out.

All the way from what weapons to use, when. What armors to use, what shields to use, use various other equipment, or don't, farm, don't farm, hunt, don't hunt, when is enough, enough, tame, don't tame, and so on...

[sly verge]

yea its tricky

if you're a vet and u know what u want to use then u can save a lot of time and materials

if you're playing for the first time it kinda behooves you to try everything which takes a lot more time and materials

I've still never used an atgeir and I started a new game with a buddy who is new to the game

gave him one and he's been tearing ass with it, wont use anything else lol

[fossil delta]

I've tried it a few times. I can't stand how it "moves". I've been getting more used to it with TWIG, though. So I might start using them.

[near widget]

fellas anyone know a good mod to bypass the process of building a base?
Like i want to just be able to prebuild a base in an area and slowly add the materials i need into it instead of building it piece by piece.

[sly verge]

that'd be cool

blueprint style

[fossil delta]

#mods-discussion Probably the best place to ask.

[sly verge]

#building-screenshots message
Fog finally lifted. This is the area I was talking about building my plains base (village in proximity)

[fossil delta]

Looks good. You can make good boat docks there too, if you even want them.

[sly verge]

ya and down from the pic is a throughway that I am constantly sailing back and forth through

also 3 tarpits nearby, in the wooded area behind the stonehenge

I want to build with the terrain, I like hte look of the streams and all, wanna keep as much of that intact as poss

[fossil delta]

Leave them spawning, and 3 more tar every few game days.

People don't seem to realize it, but that adds up if your play long enough, and need tar for more building.

[sly verge]

u mean dont drain the tarpit, just kill the growths?

[fossil delta]

Plus now you need that trophy for that tar bomb.

[fossil delta]

No, even drained it spawns a new single one every few days.

[sly verge]

ah ok

[fossil delta]

So if you have 3 conveniently near by, 3 rather easy ones to go get. If you like that tar bomb, more chances for the trophy for those bombs.

[sly verge]

I havent messed with the bombs yet

[fossil delta]

My wife loves using them. She is still figuring out which to use, when.

Poison, tar, freezing, she's having fun with them.

Yay! I almost have full iron chests full of silver, iron and black metal. Now to work on it for tin, copper and bronze. Bronze taking the longest, since it takes so much of the other two. At least Mistlands helps a lot with copper.

[kind coral]

is it viable to fight bosses with melee weapons or do you only use ranged? haven't done my first boss yet

[fossil delta]

Melee is viable. Just have a good shield and weapon to use for that boss. Especially later. Certain types of weapons may be better than others.

If your not good at parry, use a tower shield and just block.

Also, Hit points are key to using shields. So the higher your foods make your HP, the better you do.

You still probably want one food to be good for stamina, though.

[tribal trench]

Golem Trophy is wild lookin

[lofty frost]

Melee is a bit more challenging but does more damage.
Range with high bow skill is vv satisfying. Takes a while to level up your bow skill tho. Also you trade safety with stamina management and resources for arrows

[kind coral]

Thanks yall

[nocturne wolf]

Many bosses resist pierce damage so bows aren’t always effective against them

[wintry valve]

Just use a different type of arrow

Like an axe

[lofty frost]

There's an axe arrow?

[wet sleet]

how does hosting work do you need to rent a server like minecraft?

[tacit crystal]

When playing multiplayer, the person who opens the world is hosting it and people can access that world only when the host is online. Renting a server is necessary only if you plan to set up a dedicated server, which is free for people to join without needing someone specifically to host. But about that you can ask in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202550119191412736 for more info.

[heady parcel]

You can also run a dedicated server at home if you have a spare PC and a stable connection. Valheim servers are not very demanding, I run mine on an old office PC I bought dirt cheap

[tiny mortar]

whats the highest spirit damage weapon as of ashlands? mistwalker right? or did they add any new spirit weapons?

[hybrid crane]

silver sword and crystal battleaxe both have 30 i think, mistwalker max 15

but frostner is probably even better, because of Blunt damage

[tiny mortar]

cheers

[hybrid crane]

ahh acctually silver sword on lvl 4 does 45 spirit, even better

[tiny mortar]

is it worth using silver sword in the ashlands tho? isnt it a bit outdated

[merry pebble]

Against charred Its better than mistwalker and costs less stamina 🙂

[stoic wasp]

is this game made to get ppl nuts ? U die before u can put a portal n then u have 2 lox, 2 small n 2 large goblins and then all the mosquitos there guarding your loot

[upbeat echo]

Hi guys

When is 1.0 coming

[azure yacht]

2025-2030

[upbeat echo]

Aigt

Thanks

[burnt saffron]

2030?

[pliant hatch]

Might be 2040, but Rianu likes to remain optimistic.

[azure yacht]

2025-2030 is very long year range.

[lapis gazelle]

can the boss marker on the map showing wrong place?
So my elder marker on the map is marking empty spot, no altar to summon elder.

[pliant hatch]

You mean you don't want the devs to break the "7 days to die" development record?

[gray sand]

If you're on an old seed, yes.

[pliant hatch]

No. Unless you loaded a map from a game that was started before the release of the CtA update.

New PoI's have the nasty habit of breaking the location markers on the map of those that have been located, but not being visited yet.

[lapis gazelle]

oh i see, there's two elder marker on my map, so it should be the other one? 🤔

[barren whale]

after Silksong

[tiny tiger]

Was your strategy to place the workbench and portal when you are just about to die?

[near furnace]

it wasn't even funny the first time

[foggy glacier]

I thought those things were restricted to the black forest?

[stoic wasp]

yes i let them kill me sp i can make a new boat n go there again. Was gonna kill the 1 lox so i could put down the wb n portal but damn all these rats xome running out there holes 🙂

[near furnace]

oh rly? 🤔

[shy marlin]

Source?

Or we just makin shit up now

[rugged bridge]

Wait until you step off the boat in ashlands

[short iron]

Hello! Last played Mistlands, had fun but did not like the traversal. Ashlands & Deep North, how is it comparitivly?

[nocturne wolf]

Deep north isn’t finished yet

[short iron]

kk, thx

[gray sand]

Uh... traveling TOO the Ashlands is hell because they randomly added spires.
Traveling afterwards is "better" because they added Cheat Portal once you get there.

I mean Stone Portal....

[rugged bridge]

You will travel just as slowly in the ashlands due to the mob density

[short iron]

Terrain?

[rugged bridge]

Unless you're specifically running to a point in the biome then you can just zoom over

[tiny mortar]

terrain is better in ashlands then in the mistlands, but ashlands is more cluttered with mobs

[short iron]

Okay, thanks. Prefer to fight through that slide down elevation. Who needs to die for me to access Ashlands? (besides myself multiple times) XD

[rugged bridge]

Your boat, and potentially the portal you put down within 3 seconds

[short iron]

Ouch, thanks for letting me know

[rugged bridge]

Lots of people I know have rage quit after getting nuked on the shore and not bothering to boat back again

Thankfully they're changing that horrid aspect in the deep north

[short iron]

Probably playing solo too, so there is that

[ornate basin]

is baking stuff in the oven the same as cooking meat on the cooking station? will the bread turn into coal after a while?

[nocturne wolf]

We’ll be able to use a catapult and feather cape to get to deep north

[tiny mortar]

it will yeah, you need to watch the oven

[orchid locust]

never tried, but I'd expect it to

[tiny mortar]

already doable with the ashlands

[rugged bridge]

I played it in the beta client when it came out with one other friend, even as a duo we struggled to get that portal down. But alas, you do have it easier now with the combat mechanics being changed

[tiny tiger]

What’s a good trinket to land on Ashland’s with

[gray sand]

Best way to play!

[rugged bridge]

Don't have to helplessly parry some random starred warrior until you eventually expire lol

[short iron]

I've forgotten, do enemies scale with MP?

[tiny tiger]

Yes

[gray sand]

Barely.

[tiny tiger]

All enemies including bosses

[short iron]

Thanks for the updated info

[rugged bridge]

You playing magic perhaps?

[short iron]

I was not magic focused, why?

[gray sand]

Magic makes Ashlands a cakewalk.

[tiny mortar]

ashlands magic or mistlands magic

[rugged bridge]

Just curious. Mage in ashlands has one staff in particular which trivializes everything in the game

[short iron]

It's been a while, can I alter stats, respec per say?

[gray sand]

Landing with Fireball staff and scaling into Ashlands stuff.

[gray sand]

We don't have stats to respec as we don't have levels to earn 😉

[tiny mortar]

fireball agaisnt fire enemies? wouldve thought theyd be immune..

[tiny tiger]

It’s not possible to reallocate skill points

[gray sand]

Shrek: WELL YOU THOUGHT WRONG

[short iron]

So gear based, inate stats

[rugged bridge]

Not entirely immune but the fireball does blunt damage as well which is what damages them mostly

[rugged bridge]

There is the elemental and blood magic skills but you can't exactly respec, just grab a staff and become a wizard

[short iron]

got it, thx

[gray sand]

Not as much "can't" respec as "have no need to".

[tiny tiger]

I mean you literally can’t tho

[short iron]

Understood, thx

[gray sand]

Food is the most important stat in the game.

[rugged bridge]

The new twig thing attacks you right

I guess you can farm blood magic using it if it does

[gray sand]

We have training dummies now. 🤷‍♂️

[nocturne wolf]

If skeletons attack it then you can, I don’t know if they do.

[rugged bridge]

My friend was my training dummy last time

[nocturne wolf]

It won’t break a bubble because it deals pure damage

[rugged bridge]

Ahh I see

[short iron]

Ah yes, remember that...thank you

[heady parcel]

Oh, Kvastur has a trophy? I'll be damned - it picked a fight with an abomination and, sadly for old Kvastur, that was biting off a bit more than it could chew...

[rugged bridge]

I killed that broom and got its trophy the first time I entered the hut lol

[heady parcel]

I don't want it to be hostile so I'm going out of my way to not hit it..

[gray sand]

Imagine intentionally continuing to poke someone who has the power to ban you...

[rugged bridge]

Speaking of the update, I'm calling polar bears in advance

[tiny mortar]

just drop the joke already man

[rugged bridge]

No shot they made and animated an entire bear just to use it as two entities

[tiny mortar]

once its ready

[rugged bridge]

21st century

[nocturne wolf]

We don’t need three bears

[gray sand]

Valheim DN boss is just Volibear from LoL

[smoky quarry]

Me too hehe heeee. Same with the bear :p

[azure yacht]

Hope not

[azure yacht]

We don't need reskins in general

[silk token]

i have a vague memory of smiffe saying something like “why would we give you the ability to afk grind blood magic?” during ptb

[tiny tiger]

Isn’t that already the case with greydwarf spawners and the skeleton summoner

[silk token]

it is an exploit of the summoners you can do yeah, not their intended design

[azure yacht]

it's an exploit until they make it an intentional design choice

[barren whale]

if the devs know about it and it's in the game it's an intentional design choice by definition lmao

[heady parcel]

Not really, it's more of an "aright do it that way if you want, we have more important things to do rn"-thing

[barren whale]

yes that's how choices work

[heady parcel]

Not intentional - tolerated 😄

[barren whale]

you could call it an unintended mechanic

[rugged bridge]

I don't know who that is, assuming it's one of the developers but I'd like to ask "Why would I grind that skill in the first place?"

[rugged bridge]

I'm fine with them if they all have something unique to them

At least be grateful it's not a straight up recolor lol

[gray sand]

Your skeletons shooting things levels blood magic right?

[shy marlin]

what is a thing

[gray sand]

Enemies?

They aren't going to target trees...

Because if yes, Bonemass again is the ultimate training dummy 😁

[shy marlin]

yes

[rugged bridge]

Why not? I could use a hand with deforestation

:)

[gray sand]

That's Trollstav.

[rugged bridge]

I was hoping for a few woodcutters that come with me, not a nuke lol

That staff's pretty fun though, I enjoyed casting it in the middle of the fortresses in ashlands

[barren whale]

trolls are very buff woodcutters, always have been
can't chop wood with swords anyway

[shy marlin]

There's actually a glitch you can do with that 🔮

[rugged bridge]

Gotta love it, can't chop trees with swords but you can chop trees with other trees.

[gray sand]

Submit directly to Smiffe to pass on to the person who fixes such things 😏

[shy marlin]

yea right

[gray sand]

All glitches must be squashed!

[barren whale]

along with all the 9x multi animation cancels 🥳

[shy marlin]

Took me 2 years to convince them seeker stagger bug was an actual bug and not just a weird interaction

[barren whale]

the one where it faces you? 💀

[shy marlin]

the one where you'd still get hit despite staggering it

and mind you it only got fixed because I talked to a buddy that looked at the code and fixed it himself, and then sent the code to smiffe

yea i ain't reportin shit anymore

[vapid swallow]

what to do in a rainy day?? 😄

[barren whale]

they did actually patch the sword emote cancel this update
but not the other sword emote cancels

[shy marlin]

the emote cancels have an even deep rabbit hole

Like killing fader in 2 seconds rabbit hole

[barren whale]

is it the really simple stabby spam one or does it go deeper than that lmao

[shy marlin]

Deeper 🔮

[barren whale]

lmao you got any clips?

[shy marlin]

#screenshots message 🔮

Maybe one day

[barren whale]

I tried all the basic ones and realized they did about 2x the dps of a max skill Staff of Wild and got mad lmao

LMAO jeez

[shy marlin]

yea the basic ones are still stupid dumb

pop a bzerker potion and go to town and you do like 1k dps

if not more 💀

[barren whale]

yeah pretty much
hard to execute against small enemies though, the knife one is probably gonna be busted for normal play if we get a deep north knife

[shy marlin]

yea most effective against brutes / bosses

An ashlands knife would've been so cool 😔

Slap some jade on that shit and easy mode

[barren whale]

it would apply faster than axes 😭 and with far less windup

[light moat]

Jade dual knives

[silk token]

i guess because it’s slow to level compared to other skills? idk you mentioned leveling it with twig im just answering your question.

[placid dust]

Wait emote cancel? Is this like the block animation cancel or some other animation cancel I’m unaware of

[placid dust]

Bruh what lmao I need a clip of what that looks like

[barren whale]

I've done damage like that but it was chain lightning procing on the same enemy over and over

I hope this isn't achievable with regular weapons lmao

otherwise we're looking at a challenge run with wooden sword

[rugged bridge]

Oh yeah that was just an assumption, I'm in the process of trying the new CTA update with a friend but we're limited on playtime so I haven't tried making the twig thing yet. I just assumed from the short clips I saw that it since it attacks it could break your blood bubble shield but I guess not

I'm not an avid detailed patch notes reader either but you were able to AFK farm the blood magic skill for a long time if you had another player with you, perhaps that got patched somewhere down the road

[silk token]

i think its more like the sleletons dont aggro on twig, not that they patched whatever the old afk friend farm was, that could still work. i never afk’d skills though so idk.

[rugged bridge]

It was essentially just repeatedly having your friend break your shield as you recast it

I thought you could have the twig do the same for you instead of another person

[smoky quarry]

eew that sounds like a major woft

[neon magnet]

All out of copper in my little forest patch. I feel like I should still mine all the tin before moving on, but also... don't need it?

[fossil delta]

Unless you need copper for lights, you will be able to get plenty of copper in the Mistlands.

Tin you can pick up as you sail around and explore, but you don't need bronze for anything big. So unless you will need more cooking stations...

[plain cape]

what was patch today

[sly quail]

Deep north

[plain cape]

me when I lie

[azure yacht]

that's the thing, they don't

same creature, same animations. Only difference is appearance and stats, nothing else

[full frost]

My friend and I were playing on our server and were boating around and stumbled upon 2 Leviathans next to each other, close enough to walk across. How rare is this?

[silk token]

not super rare, i’ve seen them in a group of 3 too

[fossil delta]

Longest chain of Lev's I have seen is 4. Once. Seen 2 maybe a half dozen times.

Seen 2 at least twice in my current play through.

[silk token]

id mine whatever you can take with you in your boat just to save yourself a trip later, but waiting til you need it and have a boat with more storage is also a good idea

[rugged bridge]

Not many of them though, which is good for now, anything can be improved upon on the way. Plus, some of the others apply unique status effects or have a special ability (thinking of blobs in this case)

[fossil delta]

Close enough to walk across though? Not sure if I have ever seen that. Swim to? Absolutely.

[neon magnet]

Might actually try to live in the black forest next. Deal with whatever happens 😄

[fossil delta]

No more of a challenge than having a home on the plains.

[silk token]

i love core wood as a primary building source, use it for walls and stairs and whatever!

[neon magnet]

I guess the thing that worries me a tiny bit is waking up to a troll club/log cleaving through my house 😄

[fossil delta]

If you have beaten the Elder, use that as the foundation of your home.

The pillars, etc... make for some cool features.

[fossil delta]

You don't put up a defensive wall of some kind?

[azure yacht]

anything can be improved upon on the way

can? yes

will it happen? lol

[smoky quarry]

nah man ya need to prep for walls & moat and everything else

[fading needle]

valheim time

[signal lava]

I havent played this game in like half a year whats happened

Also is rocky still a thing

[smoky quarry]

rocky still elusive

[fossil delta]

You probably should just read the news. A lot has happened, and the list is long.

[signal lava]

Oh boy

Bears...

[fossil delta]

Main thing is the combat fixes and the addition of trinkets.

Yeah, bears and vile is kind of a big thing.

[smoky quarry]

and more building stuff, still no proper Iron Gate

[signal lava]

Deep north is still being worked on?

[fossil delta]

Yeah, thats next year. Maybe.

[signal lava]

Sick

[tacit crystal]

We don't know that for sure tho, they haven't announced it yet.

[fossil delta]

I said maybe...

[smoky quarry]

When it's ready

[signal lava]

I guess Im gonna see what these bears are about

Also whatever call to arms and adrenaline means

[smoky quarry]

ain`t the honey lovin' kind of bear

[fossil delta]

Well, you have to go into the plains to find the vile as well...

At night only...

[signal lava]

The plains instill primal fear

They always will

I only go to the plains when I need to

[gray sand]

The most peaceful of biomes?

[smoky quarry]

one of my fav places to raid

[fossil delta]

Plains is my favorite biome, so I pretty much live there. 😄

[signal lava]

[old flint]

dark forest island

[smoky quarry]

plains meadow forest trio merge near water

[signal lava]

The swamp is my least favorite cuz its just straight up poo land

But the plains

They scare me

[gray sand]

Someone is afraid of peace.

[fossil delta]

Heh, I genuinely hate the Ashlands, so will disagree with you there.

[signal lava]

Oh right

Ive only dipped my toes into the ashlands

[fossil delta]

Ashlands is pure ugly.

[signal lava]

We must go to very different plains

[smoky quarry]

its late game so the game gets testing

[gray sand]

The yellow one with large spans of open nothing?

[fossil delta]

I'm not even taking the monsters into consideration when I say Ashlands is pure ugly.

Its just ugly, and I hate being there even before I get attacked.

[signal lava]

I think the swamp is still uglier but it comes down to whether you prefer fire and ash to rain and poo

[rugged bridge]

Time will tell, valheim's still a pretty young game

[fossil delta]

At least with swamps I can lighten it up by cutting down all the trees. There is no improving the Ashlands.

[signal lava]

Fair enough

[rugged bridge]

Against what I'm comparing it to for the studio that makes it lol

[signal lava]

The ashlands is quite the eyesore

[rugged bridge]

That's enough for several bird, water worm and skeleton attacks

[silk token]

i'm not agreeing with most of the biome takes happening here

[rugged bridge]

I'm probably in the minority that hates the mountain biome more than any other one

[silk token]

i think they all do what they are very well

[gray sand]

It looks better when it is behind you 😉

[silk token]

swamp is a pretty damn good swamp, what else is it supposed to be? it's flat, wet, and dark. idk should they have made a sunshine swamp with glowing dr seuss plants making everything brightly lit? or i dont understand

[fossil delta]

I was not kidding by lightening it up by cutting down all the trees. It gets substantially lighter.

Obviously, you cannot cut down ALL of the trees, but you can cut down most.

[smoky quarry]

more like a nasty bog

[light moat]

Would be interesting to do considerable landscaping and essentially make it dryer 🤔

[smoky quarry]

it rains 24/7

[fossil delta]

You cannot get rid of the wet debuff, but you can raise most of the land with the hoe. Without adding rock.

[silk token]

dryer? it's a swamp

[light moat]

Dryer, not dry 😉

Like aesthetic I mean. Dry ground

[smoky quarry]

its damp and dark. Lights stand out more though. Still wet

[fossil delta]

Only way to get dry is to build covered walk ways.

Up in the trees. Makes a pretty cool location, actually.

[gray sand]

Some of my favorite builds are the people who use Bonemass' altar as their centerpiece.

Looks metal af.

[smoky quarry]

sometimes you can find a little meadow or forest patch middle of the swamp, at times very high elevation

[fossil delta]

Just takes a lot of effort to connect it between the unbreakable ancient trees, but its often doable.

There at least used to be a couple of really cool swamp builds with walk ways throughout on U tube.

I only did it once, as a Holloween build.

[azure yacht]

young game

it's been... four years...

with issues and questionable design decisions that have been there since day 1

[fossil delta]

I have yet to see a game without questionable design decisions since day 1. Are there any?

[silk token]

minecraft

[fossil delta]

Minecraft is cool and all, but...

[silk token]

hehe, is there any game thats been updated better in the history of games being updated?

[rugged bridge]

Not really concerned with the questionable design decisions as every game ever has them. Just the dev team's communication, but seeing as how valheim isn't an MMO I care even less about their design decisions.

[azure yacht]

don't understand why the game not being a MMO is relevant

[fossil delta]

Only reason I even started playing Valheim is because it was such a limited MMO. I avoid open MMO's by default.

[rugged bridge]

Anything to be honest, minecraft fell off for me the moment they decided to objectively make an axe better than a sword for combat

[rugged bridge]

Because game design decisions are far more relevant in an MMO

[silk token]

??? only for breaking shields, you use the axe to break the shield then switch back to sword

[azure yacht]

that's... so extremely untrue...

i won't even take that statement seriously

[fossil delta]

Adding unlimited people is a huge mistake to begin with.

People suck.

[rugged bridge]

Don't assume just because I mention an MMO that I mean a survival game

[silk token]

valheim is an mmo?

[rugged bridge]

Don't they legit have a higher damage output?

[silk token]

they have higher damage slower attack speed

[rugged bridge]

That walking pig in the nether with an axe that everyone's afraid of seems to prove it lol

[fossil delta]

I'm talking all of them. I used to play MMO's. Like Warcraft. People suck. The fewer, the better.

[azure yacht]

regardless...

questionable design decisions are relevant in any game, "they're more in MMOs" doesn't make sense"

[rugged bridge]

To each their own, warcraft's not exactly a good example of a dev team either though

They fell off very fast because of their design decision

[fossil delta]

Not saying they are, I'm just saying people suck. So the fewer I have to deal with the better. When I get to choose who all of them are, best of all.

[azure yacht]

and doesn't change anything of what i've said: That valheim has them since day 1 with 0 indication they will change.

things that are common mechanics as well. Such as stake walls being very much completely useless

if they haven't changed things that have been there for over four years then idk why would anyone hope for drastic changes

[rugged bridge]

You have a workaround using mods for games like valheim, which aren't innately MMOs, just have an option to be played with multiplayer

[azure yacht]

they are allergic to just changing numbers, anything more comlpex than that and they seem to think the company will explode

[rugged bridge]

I am curious about what these "things" are though

Not too in touch with the playerbase/community or what's mostly been asked for

[azure yacht]

you shouldn't need mods for that even if they do manage to fix those mechanics...

[azure yacht]

#valheim-chat message

[rugged bridge]

Is stake walls really something many people have complained about?

[azure yacht]

raids being pathetically disappointing

said raids also being made useless when passive mode is enabled when it should not be the case bc there's literally a different toggle to disable raids

[azure yacht]

irrelevant.

they are worthless, regardless of 15M people having complained about them or not. Not an opinion, that IS how they are

why would a stake wall meant for defense and ALSO being pretty much a consumable NOT return all resources after being destroyed? especially when they are extremely easy to destroy as they are damaged by touching them

[silk token]

the one good thing about stake walls is converting copper to dead rabbits in the mists XD

[azure yacht]

if you can grind the wood back...

or you are not bothered by spam managing repair

[rugged bridge]

Huh? Aren't stake walls the upright ones that don't deal damage?

[orchid locust]

yes

[silk token]

hehe thats why i said converting

[azure yacht]

spike walls.

i forgot the name. It's the diagonal ones

[rugged bridge]

Ahh okay I see now

I was confused because the stake walls are very much just a cosmetic build piece lol

[silk token]

but yeah they need like 10x durability at least

[light moat]

Or just have them return their resources upon destruction 🤔

[rugged bridge]

Now that that's clear, I do agree, alongside the raids problem, and as much as I'd rather see both of the things removed from the game due to not even thinking about using them, they are relevant to eachother, perhaps we get some kind of raids/base defense type update similar to the call to arms one which polished up combat

[fossil delta]

Here I am only bothered by things like, "I can take nails through portals, but not metal bars? WTF??"

[rugged bridge]

They made using the dodge relevant and changed parrying into a reliable combat mechanic instead of helplessly getting beaten out of my health and stamina through a shield so I'd say there's hope

[rugged bridge]

You hide the nails in your pockets so the portal doesn't see them :)

[fossil delta]

That bugs me so much because I love restoring the keeps. So to make getting the stonecutter to such places such a pain...

[silk token]

@neon magnet your base is so cute! am i crazy thinking you're new? that's an impressive non-box shaped little thing for a new player

[silk token]

not everyoone is with you on removing stamina management from combat

[rugged bridge]

Well you do have the option to make it so you can take bars through the portals so, is the option to not be able to take nails through the portal something you want?

[rugged bridge]

Oh I know, I gave my piece on it is all. Last time I talked in this server inventory expanding was the topic and I've since learned it's another topic that tears the playerbase into two sides

[fossil delta]

I'm talking default. I've been playing this game since well before we could even change the default settings.

4 years, is it?

[rugged bridge]

Does it really matter that much though? Toggleable at any time setting is there, for everyone's needs

[versed parcel]

real quick I know there's no official date and no one knows for sure but when might deep north be a thing

considering the call to arms just dropped probably gonna be more than a few months I'd assume

[fossil delta]

Maybe next year, Not this year, pretty much a definitive statement.

Next year is even questionable.

[versed parcel]

ahh yeah december would've been nice thematically but yeah def not this year for sure

[rugged bridge]

Break between mistlands and ashlands was a little over 2 years so, another year or 3/4 of a year if we follow that expectation

[fossil delta]

I'm pretty confident it will be next year, but IG isn't really allowed to say until they KNOW when they can release it, so... we will stick with maybe next year.

[rugged bridge]

They could always aim for the end of 2026 to make it fit "thematically"

[fossil delta]

Going by past time frames, as already mentioned, that is the most likely part of the year. So...

[burnt glen]

Lowk I think we’ll get it end of this year

[fluid cove]

it is with great pleasure that I announce that I have killed the Queen

on my way to the Ashlands now

[gray sand]

Mage or Melee?

[fluid cove]

melee

[gray sand]

Do you have Demolisher?

[fluid cove]

yes

[gray sand]

Enjoy 😈

[fluid cove]

💀

i'm gonna get brutalized am i

[gray sand]

No like, you will be a god among skeletal insects with Demolisher.

The only thing you need to watch for is the gymbro Necks.

[fluid cove]

what are the prep works im gonna need before i set sail

[gray sand]

Food.

[fluid cove]

do i need fire res mead

[gray sand]

Nope.

[fluid cove]

alright

its 1 AM im gonna set sail in the morning

[gray sand]

HHS food for first landing recommended.
Demolisher for when you need space.
Mistwalker for killing things.
Carapace Buckler.

You will want a bow for killing Bonemaws and (if you happen to run into one early) Valks.

Don't waste arrows on Volturs, they fly low enough for melee.

[fluid cove]

im still using the fully upgraded Draugr Fang will that be enough

[gray sand]

Priority 1 is finding and looting enough caves to make a Stone Portal.

[gray sand]

As long as you got Frost Arrows.

[shy marlin]

it's good enough but spinesnap is cheap and really effective in ashlands

[gray sand]

Facts.

[fluid cove]

cool imma make some of those

gotta sleep now, good night Vikings

[gray sand]

Does the Spinesnap glow work the way Mistwalker's does or no?

[shy marlin]

don't think so

[gray sand]

😭

[shy marlin]

wait wdym

like remove mist?

[gray sand]

Like Mistwalker is a miniwisp, yeah.

[shy marlin]

yea nah

[gray sand]

😭

Did you see my point the other day about Jotun Bane?

[shy marlin]

and how trash it is?

[gray sand]

And how if they switch the axe secondary to being a throw it becomes better because the poison will tick while you're closing the distance?

[shy marlin]

poison is still a trash dmg type

[gray sand]

Either that or just rework dots like I put in suggestions 😭

• Fire - unchanged.
• Spirit - DoT is just one layer but repeated hits (5?) stack to a burst of damage (same exact DPS profile, just different interaction to separate from Fire)
• Poison - DoT remains the same, but doing poison damage to an already poisoned target via arrows or weapon deals additional flat poison damage per swing.

[sonic tide]

do raids still work the same as they used to? like if I'm in a server and I kill a higher tier boss and turn in that trophy then the next level of raids will attack our village?

[heady parcel]

Yes

Some server settings might change it a bit, like personal events (only raids unlocked by your character are triggered by you for example) or higher/lower frequency of raids.

[brisk hare]

Hello there!
I recently lost a gaming buddy due to modern day activities (work time and other types of obligations). We played for 2 weeks i would say so I'm looking for someone or even a company of people who would like to play it. I find this game great but i just don't have motivation to play it alone.

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[merry pebble]

Look no further than #1024264966712340510

[brisk hare]

Thanks guys!

[fossil delta]

Considering it takes wisps to make... good?

[gray sand]

Oh I'm 100% in favor of Mistwalker glow doing what it does.

Was just asking if Spinesnap glow works similarly.

[fossil delta]

I don't know. I just make Demolisher first since its such a huge improvement over the iron, unlike the others, only being single point improvements. Like Spinesnap is only a 1 point improvement over Fang, initially.

IE lvl 4 Fang vs lvl 1 Spinesnap.

[heady parcel]

I never make the Fang though, too fond of the sneaky Huntsman bow when handling fuling villages

And being able to single pull lox to not deal with all three is precious too

[fossil delta]

I just walk into villages and start killing now a days. I only snipe shamans.

I enjoy fighting multiple lox's too. Its fun.

[heady parcel]

If it was only lox, but you can bet while in the thick of it their buzzy friends show up in numbers

I prefer to maintain a bit more control haha

[gray sand]

Spinesnap LOOKS cool though.
And as Scales pointed out, it is cheap.

[fossil delta]

True, but that adds to the challenge. Once upon a time, how I fight now would have terrified me, and I would have called me crazy.

[gray sand]

I snipe shamans and people in towers so they aren't throwing at me while I'm fighting on the ground.

[fossil delta]

They miss so often I don't worry about the tower fulings, unless they happen to be 2 starred, and I have not seen a 2 star spear chucker in forever.

[heady parcel]

I keep sniping any fuling I see until I can't hear anymore shamans, then I can go in swinging

Unless I see a two-star of course, I don't want those types up close if I can help it

[fossil delta]

My wifes savage aggression works shockingly well against the 2 stars. One of the situations in which I have adopted it.

Hit them first, keep hitting them, they die, they never hit you.

[heady parcel]

I will never forget my first encounter with fulings. It was on my very first world, and I had just reached my very first swamp and was carefully staking it out, walking along the edges. Then when it got dark I saw fires in the distance, moved closer, heard strange giggling, one little green fellow came at me but I killed him (was in bronze gear), got cocky and shot another. He was bigger, different coloured, and then I had a corpse run... Turned out it was a minimal patch of plains at the edge of that swamp, and it happened to be host to a village. Waay closer to spawn than I thought possible, but that world was created on release so maybe it has some odd things.

[neon magnet]

Not so far, no. Been building in the meadows only tbh and sleeping most nights. Also haven't killed elder yet so not getting any nasty raids

[gray sand]

Flashbacks to Daredevil episode about Fisk as a child "KEEP HITTING THEM"

[fossil delta]

It works, tho.

[gray sand]

True.

[neon magnet]

Depends. I've never gotten far but have spent a fair bit of time in the early game. I wouldn't claim to be new - plenty of similar houses built!

[fossil delta]

Yeah, fulings, and the plains in general, used to scare me. But I have learned a lot since I first started playing.

Now I don't even get scared, not even in the Ashlands. I just figure out what keeps me alive, and stay alive.

[heady parcel]

Imo plains at night has become a lot more scary after last update. It's not just the vile - which is scary but unless low on foods not that dangerous - but it seems those fuling gangs are spawning like greydwarves in the forest now, feels like Ashlands at times.

[rugged bridge]

Try starting off a new save, moving through a tiny speck of black forest during the night thinking it's perfectly safe, then you see a bear's face next to the tree you're running past for the first time

[fossil delta]

I agree they seem to spawn a lot more often. I am happy with that, though, until I get all my BM chests made. 😄

[rugged bridge]

Wiki's "very rare" bear spawn frequency made me distrust that entire site

[heady parcel]

I am swimming in black metal, I can't keep up smelting them haha

[gray sand]

I have seen 9 bears and 1 troll.
So all the "troll armor is cheaper" people can suck it 😛

[fossil delta]

I am in a new play through. I've done many new play throughs in my 5,800+ hours. Just got into Mistlands again this past week.

[heady parcel]

I suppose bears and trolls are sharing spawn "slots" in the forest now, so there will be less trolls than before

[fossil delta]

No, seeing tolls about as often as ever. You see bears a lot too, if you run through the BF's like I do. Still only have maybe 12 trophies, though. Tons of skins, meat and paws, though.

[rugged bridge]

Having many bears spawn early on is better anyways. Problem is they've got 99% camo rate during the night, I'll never spot one unless I see its health bar by accident first

[silk token]

im basically the same except i sprint in and stab the shamans in their stupid face. and if i see the casting the shield i chuck it and stagger them. shamans are buttholes.

[rugged bridge]

Don't feel like going on max brightness either as it just ruins the immersion

[fossil delta]

If they are on my side of the village, same, but they are often on the far side. Not fighting my way to them that fast.

[heady parcel]

Yeah at night they have ambushed me several times. One moment you are jogging along, then suddenly somethig big hits you out of the dark

[fossil delta]

They often surprise me during the day too. I think the game cheats and spawns them after I pass their spot.

It does it with Lox, so why not bears?

[gray sand]

I am never awake at night until Swamp 😄

[heady parcel]

I usually circle around at least once with the bow to snipe every shammy I can see. Also the big ones if I can get them without waking up the entire village.

[silk token]

ive sailed past a troll standing almost against a bear, i dont think they block each other’s spawn

[gray sand]

Also I found bears, while they have a metric assload of hp, are incredibly easy to fight if you just keep equipping and unequipping your torch 😄

[fossil delta]

One of the reasons I like swords in the plains, is I can hit a beserker and several fulings at the same time.

[silk token]

or battleaxe!

[heady parcel]

Nah, I mean mob total in the active area. I believe any active forest bubble can have X greydwarves and Y big mobs. Big mobs previously being just trolls, but now trolls and bears

[rugged bridge]

Equip your torch and suddenly the bear turns into a monkey trying to catch a banana

[fossil delta]

Half dozen or more with that!

[gray sand]

Yes but runs out of hit range, so if you keep toggling it they won't hit you but will stay close enough to be hit 😄

[heady parcel]

Come to think of it, I have still not seen viles and lox at the same time, anyone seen that?

[rugged bridge]

Speaking of battleaxe, has anyone tried using the new black metal battleaxe in the mistlands and/or skull splittur in the ashlands? If so, how do they perform?

[fossil delta]

In sight at the same time? Yeah, just about every time.

[rugged bridge]

Trying to use axes/battleaxes in my current playthrough for a different experience

[heady parcel]

Probably just that small bit of plains where I built my home then. It's either a flock of lox or a vile, never both

[rugged bridge]

Haven't experienced that personally, for me they'll just try to hit me, then turn to the right or left the last second and miss, rotate and repeat the cycle

[gray sand]

Yeah if I keep mine out they straight run off.

[rugged bridge]

You got some cowardly bears

[fossil delta]

They have only been what I would call close together only once. There is usually decent room between them.

I guess even IG doesn't want us fighting 3 lox, a vile and random squittoes and fulings at the same time. Shocking.

Maybe because night fulings are so often starred?

[gray sand]

IG doesn't want us fighting <insert any number or combination of enemies>???
SOURCE?

[fossil delta]

Yeah, like I said, shocking.

Now a days I am like, the more the better. Not so long ago, RUN!

[gray sand]

Atgeir Secondary + Berserkir Mead = EZ Mode

[fossil delta]

I don't like the atgeir. It feels/looks so clunky to me.

Even its spin just looks stupid to me.

[heady parcel]

I use the atgeir as my panic button. If I get into more trouble than I can handle I swap to that and abuse the crap out of the secondary

[fossil delta]

TWIG has been helping me dislike it less.

[gray sand]

The Walking Iron Gate?

[fossil delta]

Whatever TWIG stands for.

[gray sand]

Who needs a panic button when you have a Panic Hammer 😉

[heady parcel]

Me smash?

[fossil delta]

Yeah, the knock back on the hammers usually buys you tons of time and space.

Not against things like beserkers, etc....

[gray sand]

I wish Frostner was two-handed because then the knockback would make sense to me. 😭

[heady parcel]

The frostner knockback just annoys me, always makes me miss with the combo. The two-handed club is just a gimmick, not a weapon to use in fights.

[fossil delta]

I love porcupine, but the Frostnr knock back is a bit ludicrous.

[heady parcel]

I'd love if the sledges were given a regular combo with primary attack, and that ME SMASH could be the secondary

[gray sand]

I'd love if one-handed maces all had the wooden club knockback but keep the massive punt on the secondary.
So you can fight when you want to fight and make space when you want to make space.

[fossil delta]

I use the sledge when I want space.

You can switch so fast its almost like using the same weapon anyways.

[heady parcel]

Atgeir does the same, but with a tad more control since you decide where to move while they stand flailing their arms around

[fossil delta]

Does Porcupine have the knockback? It usually kills them on the first hit, so I don't recall...

Porcy kills Lox so fast, it still is shocking to me.

[heady parcel]

Barely ever used it, I tend to go for swords anyway and keep Frostner for mobs that require its special properties

[fossil delta]

Yeah, like I said, plains is when I start using swords. It hits multiples at the same time, and seems faster.

Skill levelling seems faster now. I have never had sword in the 60's by the time I go into the Mistlands before.

[heady parcel]

In theory axe's first attack is quicker than swords, but I think sword's swing hits mid-animation, while axe doesn't actually hit until at the end of its animation. Axe is awfully awkward to fight with due to that.

[fossil delta]

Nothing feels as awkward to me as the big hammers and battleaxes. So now that I am used to using those...

[heady parcel]

Hence my firm opinion that axes are mainly for chopping wood, and the occasional creature that interrupts you while you are chopping wood

[fossil delta]

They are great for the abomination too.

Which is still chopping wood, so...

[heady parcel]

Swords work just as well 😄

Gods, I remember when abominations were the scariest things I knew in the game

First one I met yeeted me into deep water where the leeches got me. Took me a week to get my stuff back, and skills were below 10 by the time I succeeded

[fossil delta]

I still give golems a lot of respect, but as long as you don't mess up your shield work, nothing is much of a threat.

Like this last time I fought Yag, I just stood there and fought him, That 2 minutes and 24 seconds included his spawning time. Thats just how long my fire mead was in effect when I beat him.

So I have learned a lot, and changed a lot, from 4 years ago.

[gray sand]

I hope DN has golems 2.0

Like how Ashlands has necks 2.0

[heady parcel]

More like 10.0 but I get what you mean...

[gray sand]

Nah, they just swam from starting island to Ashlands and that kind of workout builds you. 😏

Asksvin is neck with 100 swim skill.

[heady parcel]

Are necks fire resistant?

Just out of curiosity...

[nocturne wolf]

Necks being immune to lava would be a fun easter egg but no
They’re actually weak to it

[heady parcel]

Ah, well, too fun to be true eh..

[heady parcel]

Gods, looking for tar pits but only finding small plains without a single one

Ugh, let us craft actual tar pits - a simple dug hole where you burn sap-heavy firewood to harvest tar. Something that unlocks after killing Yag?

[gray sand]

No. 😛

[heady parcel]

Please, dangit!

[gray sand]

F5
devcommands
spawn tarliquid
😉

[slow leaf]

Whatever happened to the wiki channel here? Anyway, it says angled corewood takes rain damage, and they do not.

[silk token]

the other thing axes are good for is leveling your axe skill for when you get a battleaxd

[neon magnet]

Even if not partially covered by a roof?

[heady parcel]

Battleaxes are just overgrown axes - best used for chopping wood... 😉

[neon steppe]

holy moly abyssal knife feels fast when you have only used stagbreaker and bronze axe for 40 days!

[merry pebble]

Indeed it checks out, just tested it 😄
And the wiki channel is still there, but as always only visible if you have the chronicler role 🙂

[slow leaf]

All angled beams are roof

[heady parcel]

Gods, let me mount ballistae on the Drakkar and raid fuling villages from the sea

[merry pebble]

Should be fixed now 🙂

[slow leaf]

It used to be visible to me, then went away

Thanks

[heady parcel]

(Btw, with fire hazards on, raiding villages with fire arrows is a very viking thing!

[neon magnet]

Thought they were only immune when being placed along a roof piece. Do they shield pieces below too if "they are roof"?

[slow leaf]

Yes

[heady parcel]

Oh what the heck is going on here, sailing by a fuling village and there's a vile on the rampage, didn't think they were hostile to anything in the plains?

[merry pebble]

Might be that you picked it when i was availible to anyone? It didnt turn out well so it was removed from people who were not active there.

[slow leaf]

Ah gotcha, yes it went away quite some time ago for me

[heady parcel]

Must have been nightspawned skellies

[slow leaf]

It was nice to have the wiki channel because the people active there were the ones that really knew how the game worked

[silk token]

i’m sorry for you that you don’t love battleaxes 🥲

[heady parcel]

I just don't like axes, period. I like swords though, so the game still has me covered. Now with the last update I hear the two-handers are finally okay!

[merry pebble]

Yeah, but it was used like "ask stuff about game" channel rather than for people communicating about actual wiki stuff 🙂

[heady parcel]

Fecksake what is this, Fuling California? There's villages all along the coastline...

[fossil delta]

That would make me happy. The more villages to plunder, the better.

[silk token]

yeah, the multi target penalty removed is great, they still are finicky like 1 hand sword, not true cleave everything always

[heady parcel]

I don't want anything from them right now, all I need is tar so they just slow me down..

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I don't NEED anything from them either. Its just that they are fulings, and need to die... plus they are fun to fight.

[slow leaf]

Fair, maybe they should put in a game mechanics channel that's a little more technical than 'valheim chat'

[heady parcel]

True, but when I can't bring along the loot it makes me anxious, better leave them for later 😄

[merry pebble]

Thats usually what #valheim-help is for 😄

[fossil delta]

Yeah, leaving chest after chest of black metal behind can be a bit irritating. Then when you finally get it to base, you spend what feels like forever smelting it.

[heady parcel]

Bloody hell does this night never end? "Nights last 9 minutes." PFFFFT!

[fossil delta]

You having the heavy plains fog too?

[heady parcel]

No fog right now, but sailing along a plains coast and there's villages, viles and shit running around all over the place. Waiting for day to make landfall and look for tar...

[fossil delta]

Day or night, I just look for one of those big rocks to land at. Can't see those with that pea soup fog, though.

There is usually, not always, very little to fight around those rocks.

[heady parcel]

Strangely, this world seems to have very few of those rocks. I've only seen a handful so far, most plains don't have them at all.

[fossil delta]

Huh. I wouldn't call them frequent. Definitely not like BF or Meadows, but I usually find one often enough.

[heady parcel]

Oh finally a fudging tar pit

[silk token]

this seed i spend most of my time dodging black sludge balls they're everywhere, they're every 10 feet from my base

ah thanks for reminding me, thats another to-do list thing is fnish my tar roof

[spring estuary]

#screenshots message @compact gate improved it once more

[fossil delta]

I have to admit I don't mind repeats of the event that gives me more Brenna trophies. I like that one better than Surtlings.

I do wish they would stop making us have to hang around for animal reproduction. I can only make so much food, farm so much crop, and smelt only so much ore.

[fathom gulch]

Does anyone know how may possible seeds there are for maps?

[fossil delta]

Its not infinite, but for all intents and purposes? Close enough?

[merry pebble]

Just as many as there are combinations of 10 uppercase letters, lowercase letters and numbers 🙂

[fossil delta]

Into the millions. I'm not doing that math.

[fathom gulch]

So 62^10?

[merry pebble]

No idea 😄 i am in the same boat as Robert, not doing that math.

[nocturne wolf]

There are more possible seeds, this is just what can be randomly generated on the new world menu.
@fathom gulch

[merry pebble]

True, you can go less than 10 characters seed 😄

[real pumice]

If anyone has 2 star asksvins eggs and are willing to part with 1 please DM me!!!

[nocturne wolf]

Are other characters allowed too? I can’t check right now.

[merry pebble]

Dont think so 🤔 will check tho

Nope, only the classic letters and numbers

[fathom gulch]

So I believe that would be 62^10 + 62^9 + 62^8 + 62^7 + 62^6 + 62^5 + 62^4 + 62^3 + 62^2 + 62

There is probably a more elegant way of expressing that though lol

[shy marlin]

Ye it'd just be a summation with n

[merry pebble]

Probably, and quite likely using some letters, things that, if you ask me at least, have no business being part of THE number science

[echo plaza]

'A lot' is good enough

[swift fractal]

I downloaded Valheim for the first time on a non-cool-downloading-game-program, I got In love with It and I bought the game on Steam and I couldn't be happier.

[chrome badge]

Happy to hear it ✊

[gray sand]

Given I just got an entire wood chest of copper from one node... they either changed the % or it was one of those secret node-inside-a-node nodes.

[shy marlin]

prolly node inside a node

[gray sand]

I was 6 slots of copper vs. 14 slots of stone in total.

[sleek pecan]

Is there a place in this discord to find people to play with

[merry pebble]

Yep #1024264966712340510 😄

[shy marlin]

yea sounds like 2 copper nodes

[gray sand]

STILL ONLY SEEN THE ONE TROLL BTW

[shy marlin]

is this the vh vegan run

[gray sand]

Indeed.

Bear armor great for chopping trees 💛

[shy marlin]

Bear armor great

Fixed the sentence for ya

[gray sand]

Bronze armor better 😏

[shy marlin]

Think i'm planning a bronze only playthru

[chrome badge]

Bear armor great

[gray sand]

Everyone talking about low drop rates.

First bear I encounter is a one-star and it drops trophy 😄

[silk token]

that's really funny. do a "worst" playthrough, everything people say is the worst armor, weapon, food, etc

[shy marlin]

10% is 10% 😏

[gray sand]

10% is 100% for me 😏

[shy marlin]

📈

[shy marlin]

oh i meant a bronze tier only playthru

But that would also be funny

[silk token]

i gotta think of more "bad" things. battleaxes probably XD what else...

[shy marlin]

tower shield

[tacit crystal]

Jotun Bane.

[shy marlin]

oh god tower shield jotun bane

[silk token]

i got it. tower shield and 1 hand axe haha

yes hahaha jotun bane my god... that stupid stupid axe

[gray sand]

Tower shield and knife just looks funny tbh.

[silk token]

but it's a little good tho is the problem, 1 hand axe nobody's gonna ever complain again when he's there beating ashlands mobs with tower and 1 hand axe XD

[pliant hatch]

W00t! Pointy hats are craftable again! 🧙‍♂️

[merry pebble]

You can feel like a roman legionare 😄

[shy marlin]

and the jack o turnips or w/e they're called?

[pliant hatch]

The Jack o' Turnips too, btw

[shy marlin]

huge

[visual granite]

theres been another update to the steam version today, but no patch notes, and i didnt get any descriptor from steam saying whether it was a content update or shader precaching. anyone know? or was it just my game validating randomly

[tacit crystal]

Steam doing Steam things mostly, no new patch.

Otherwise it would have been announced in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202170015671914506

[visual granite]

i did check there first, but there have been changes to the games files that werent noted at all

[merry pebble]

Stuff that changed 🙂 https://steamdb.info/patchnotes/20219838/

[stuck lake]

ahahaha i beat moder

building my house rn

[gray sand]

🏠

[stuck lake]

ok so why is my roof cross breaking on impact

[shy marlin]

check stability

[stuck lake]

wdym

how do i check that

[gray sand]

If the thing you're trying to attach the roof to is bright red it means you're out of stability.

[stuck lake]

how do i fix that

[gray sand]

Going out on a limb here and guessing you're trying to make a large structure purely out of wood?

[shy marlin]

Use core wood, iron, or stone to increase stability values

[gray sand]

Core wood is barely better, so that is not my recommendation if my assumption is correct.

[stuck lake]

im follwing a tutorial

and in the tutorial it works

but it isnt on my house

[shy marlin]

might be using mods then

what's the tutorial vid?

[gray sand]

1. Don't do that.
2. Build normal, single-floor things until you hit swamp.

Iron gives you access to stone building and iron wood which expand your building capabilities to their limits.

[stuck lake]

do u want link

[stuck lake]

why the house looks cool

and i have stone buildings already i beat moder

[burnt star]

Any other streamers suddenly having issues with Valheim lagging out stream? and JUST valheim?

If I have even the main menu up the stream gets so choppy it's like a slideshow. Even just sitting in main menu. But no other games is it doing this.

Verfied steam files, restarted the game and my computer

[light moat]

I’ve never had issues building 2 story structures before iron tier 🤔

[winter shale]

Deep north is here how powerful is stuff?

[light moat]

Deep north isn’t released yet 🤔

[winter shale]

Oh I just saw that there’s a bunch of ice

Ima just lie to my friend then so he is still interested in the game after ashlands

[light moat]

Just ice, snow, and salmon currently

[winter shale]

Ok

[quasi latch]

Extrapolate from the other biomes. The damage ramps up linearly

[azure yacht]

what

[stuck lake]

@gray sand do i use corewood instead of normal wood

but i think corewood looks different from normal wood

why does this game need to be so realistic 😭

[winter shale]

Nvm

[real pumice]

Looking for 2 star asksvin eggs anyone have?

[azure yacht]

devcommands

[real pumice]

im on xbox. Can I still use those?

[azure yacht]

yes

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Developer_console#Commands

[sly oyster]

well wolves sure are useless

spent 30 minutes taming it and it was two shot by a troll on the way home

[worldly chasm]

Is there any crafting bench I should bring to the mistlands?

[gray sand]

?

[pliant hatch]

Workbench for your pocket portal.
Stonecutter if you want to demolish the Dvergr buildings.

[ebon oyster]

My boat got stuck in a low hanging area in mist lands and destroyed by a seeker soldier and the materials sank

I logged out, turned on "materials have no cost" and just made myself a new one. Lmao. Nope.

540 hours in this game and I still make the dumbest decisions you could possibly make

[glad night]

I'm trying to figure out what ingredient I'm missing from the iron sledge recipe, it's not showing up in my recipes yet

[gray sand]

Draugr Elite trophy?
Ymir Flesh?

[glad night]

The trophy, thank you

[gray sand]

👍

[spring estuary]

#screenshots message another day, another update on my build : D

[pastel sorrel]

Considering buying the game wheres the best place to find people to play with ? or whats the best way to?

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[fluid cove]

bring a stack of black metal or two, you will need it to craft certain items there

[fossil delta]

It took us 6 mines, but we finally have enough power cores to have both tables and the processor built, plus a couple of extra to start with to work towards having extra forges we can build for repairing dvergr towers. Plus we have the Queen location and 5 of the pieces for opening her prison.

We also now have two operating extractors. With 5 more in our sights.

Poor Dvergr...

[fluid cove]

if he just gotten to the Mistlands then he cannot portal in metals

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I read that as black marble. I'm tired and obviously need to go to bed.

[fluid cove]

lmao all good my g

[hoary peak]

is 3x multiplier in solo cheating?

[gray sand]

No.

[azure yacht]

does it matter?

[hoary peak]

im not sure haha

[azure yacht]

are you asking for permission on how to play your game?

[hoary peak]

im not sure haha i dont know lack of integrity i think idk it feels wrong but it's so tiring gathering resources

[smoky quarry]

Nothing wrong with that mate

[azure yacht]

then do whatever you want

[willow sleet]

I wish I could choose what kind of skeleton I summon with the Dead Raiser, that would be tight

[empty cradle]

On a sad note i finally got a 2 star wolf spawn but had to kill it due to a golem and 3 drakes at same time as a 1 star and 2 reg wolves . 800 hrs in this game and only ever seen 3 2 star spawns

[willow sleet]

I haven't seen a single one, and I've got 1400 hours. That really sucks man, I'm sorry

[empty cradle]

guess i gotta do it the hard way and use the breeder mod and hope for upgrades

[smoky quarry]

thats the easy way :p

[hybrid tundra]

Started a new Valheim world on hardest, because my life is dope, and I do dope shit. Picking up sticks and stones because chains and whips unlock later. So far so good, chopping some trees, hunting some boars, greylings prancing around like cats with a paper bag on their head, I'm a happy little viking. Find an abandoned shack, accidentally but heroically open the door by axing it off the hinges, accidentally but heroically hit a beehive. Bees start flying round me like MiG-28s and I get cooked like Goose. Reach the coast, spot a 2-star neck, only seen one in ~1000 hours, feelsgoodman.jpg. Build a swish little beach house, sun sets, time for an Odin nap. "Computer says no", enemies nearby. Pop my head out the window like a bored Latin mother in-law to have a nosey, it's a 2-star greydwarf and a 2-star shaman Usain Bolting it straight at me. They gettin' rude to fam, try and merc them with a stone axe and torch. They start Morris dancing around me, lobbing stones at my head with the power of a Schwerer Gustav nearly making me do an impression of Team Rocket blasting off again. Nah mate I ain't playing this budget Squid Game version of tag, decide to try and lose them in the trees and jump into bed to despawn them. Good Morning Vietheeeim! Wake up to both of them looming over me like discount Terminators asking if I'm Sarah Connor. I say "nah", they don't care, I die. Respawn in the same bed, they're still there, I'm still not Sarah Connor, die again. Never in 1000 hours been spawn camped by a greydwarf. I really can't wait to start 1.0 fresh with friends on hardest, this is gonna be good.

[shy marlin]

Great read

[neon magnet]

Next time I'm going "hmm, something feels a bit off... I might just restart" - remind me of how using a bow at low skill level feels :>

[upbeat ginkgo]

Any Aussies here? Looking to get a dedicated server going and it wood be great to have other Aussies join

[tacit crystal]

You'd probably want to post or look out posts in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 if you want to interact with your fellow Aussies. 👍

[main mountain]

Are there any Russian-speaking players here who play Valheim?

[tacit crystal]

Probably there are, you can search in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 but remember keeping posting in English. 👍

[fluid cove]

what are the items i should bring to the Ashlands for the first landing? this is my first time ever progressing this far

[tacit crystal]

Materials for portal and shield generator, few of best foods you have, HP/stamina/eitr (if you use)/Ratatosk meads, best gear and weapons (both mage and melee work). Some effective options for weapons:
Mistwalker, Krom, Demolisher, Himminafl, Spinesnap, Ember staff, Silver sword and Frostner.

[pliant hatch]

Please leave your personal opinion of a certain player group out of this Discord.

There is NO place for politics here.

Edit: see #9 in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202183135232802867

9. Do not have political discussions or controversial topics, as this server is not the place. Messages in this category may be deleted, no matter how serious or joking their intent.

[shut nexus]

Question: did material cost get bumped? One of the swords asked for 200 bars of one type and 50 of another to craft lv1.

[royal flint]

What sword is that? o_O

[old flint]

what?

[shut nexus]

Silver

[royal flint]

Wow. I guess I didn't pay attention when I crafted mine before cause that sounds expensive

[shut nexus]

The Black Iron Axe (or whatever it’s called) now requires 50 bars for lv1. Wasn’t it like 80 to get to lv4?

[nocturne wolf]

Are you holding shift?

[steel mica]

black iron axe 🤔

[nocturne wolf]

Black metal probably

[shut nexus]

That’s it!

[shut nexus]

What does shift do?

I don’t believe I was. I’ll log back on and check.

[pliant hatch]

It left you craft five items in one go.

[silk token]

wow that was just poetic man. have you heard of the gamer and youtuber “Rav”? reminded me of his scripts.

[gray sand]

x5

[pliant hatch]

Looks like you got your blue skin on again.

[gray sand]

@pliant hatch already reported. 👍

[coarse gust]

Rule 13 kek

[silk token]

imean posting rules and regulations IS kind of a staff tag speaking to you, so.

[pliant hatch]

I was actually hoping I could avoid that action by placing a normal request.

But thanks for doing so nevertheless, as I was about to do the same right now.

[barren whale]

13. Do not backseat moderate. If you see someone breaking a rule, reach out to <@&816973484756172815> to contact a moderator.
    🤡

seems like this rule is unenforced so you're good to go!

[pliant hatch]

You mean we should wait and watch a political discussion evolve until one of the staff members is able to see the message (or the mod-mail) and react at it?

Resulting in countless posts being removed and a part of the community being upset?

Or would it be better if a "common" user places a request to avoid certain things, show the rule where it's actually mentioned and stop a wildfire when it's still a spark?

Sometimes one is the best, sometimes the other one is.

Just keep in mind that even the staff members need to eat, sleep, pee or have to leave their computer to do other stuff. Meaning they can't moderate here 24/7.

[silk token]

no i mean to their “yOuR sTaFf TaG iS mIsSiNg” comment i’m saying that IS the staff speaking through the rules of theirs you reposted, so your hierarchy status isn’t relevant

[barren whale]

insane mental gymnastics LOL

[silk token]

or did you mean to reply to miker not me?

[barren whale]

yall should talk about valheim more in #valheim-chat

[pliant hatch]

I may have misunderstood what you meant then.

[silk token]

yeah i think so, no worries

[near furnace]

sometimes yes

but xblitznotsz was a troll account

so logic doesn't work on them

[tiny mortar]

can you port an xbox account character to steam?

is that a thing thats doable

[old flint]

Do mushrooms have a place they spawn to over and over or is it random?

[gray sand]

Places.

So if you find a good batch, mark it on the map.

[old flint]

Thanks! Yeah, I found 5x in two places kind of near from each other and marked them

[wintry wave]

What is the best food for the Queen,

[gray sand]

Best is subjecthive.

[nocturne wolf]

Any combination of food made with mistlands ingredients will work well

[wintry wave]

Ok

[gray sand]

Food sheet is pinned in this channel.

[fickle urchin]

heyo

[light gyro]

I like the new update, I can finally perry without losing stamina

[gray sand]

I personally hate that part of the new update.

[light gyro]

y also you pfp always reminds me of the silent hill 3 girl

[gray sand]

Because you've never played FF13?

And balance casualization.

[light gyro]

cuz I use a tv not a monitor so discord pfp are very tiny

[nocturne wolf]

Parrying everything is too viable now

[light gyro]

viable?

[nocturne wolf]

There’s less reason to fight in other ways

[light gyro]

they also added dodging so as long as you roll towards the hit in the right moment no damage is taken

[gray sand]

Parry used to be free.
It was broken as fuck because there was no reason to not parry everything always.

So they made it cost stamina. Great change. Balanced.

Suddenly the revert like they don't know exactly how that is going to play out...

[light gyro]

o yuh I noticed

[light gyro]

the thing is you perry? good job :D now you have 0 stamina to strike back

[gray sand]

Scale issue.

[nocturne wolf]

Only if you already had low stamina

[gray sand]

Manage stamina better.

[light gyro]

a good idea to balance it is, more heavy armor ---> parry cost more stamina

or is it just a bad idea

[gray sand]

I'm physically vomiting at that idea.

[light gyro]

idk brute graydwarf strikes too fast

[light gyro]

be nice I like sharing my first thoughts

[gray sand]

Not if you parry them and they are staggered?

[light gyro]

the thing is while I wait for the stamina to regenerate they're . unstaggered

[gray sand]

Parry - hit - hit - parry - let stamina recover - parry - hit - hit
Repeat until dead

[light gyro]

that reminds me of why I pick knife as a weapon in the early run

[light gyro]

oo strategic

[barren whale]

dodging is also free now 🤷
the biggest loser of fighting styles is backing just out of reach of the enemy attack hitbox, ie. aura farming

[light gyro]

dodging still takes stamina

[gray sand]

Strategic is what is being slowly removed from the game with these stamina updates...

[light gyro]

but I just think if its a successful dodge you will get back your stamina im not sure I thought i was imagining things while I was playing

[barren whale]

yeah, if you would've taken damage then you get your stamina back

[light gyro]

they'll figure it out, valheim is still developing

[gray sand]

It's changed paths. This is the new direction 🤷‍♂️😭

[light gyro]

tbh if they make boats travel faster i'll be happy

[barren whale]

tbh parrying/blocking should cost less stamina if you're in heavy armor simply because you've got more mass

you pay that stamina back when you try to move around haha

[light gyro]

shouldn't it cost more since you're too heavy to move? im not sure about physics

[barren whale]

if you're holding a bowling ball and someone bounces a basketball off it
you are not very shaken

if you're holding a balloon and someone bounces a basketball off that

[tiny tiger]

It’d be great if you could choose when to release the trinkets power once ur adrenaline has built up

Or even save a charge for a future battle but not sure if that would be too op

Like the crystal heart trinket is most useful if activated first thing in the battle not halfway through or towards the end

while trinkets that give instant stamina or hp are more useful for the latter half

[barren whale]

hmm
I think managing the adrenaline bar to pop when you want is a cool skill expression
but maybe not fun if you're already struggling to get any adrenaline at all
my main wish is for trinket powers to be weaker but pop earlier in the fight, so they are relevant in more situations besides huge long fights

[chrome badge]

I agree, and I will also mention it would be nice if the floating damage numbers turned the adrenaline orange when being influenced by it, just to make how much you're utilizing it more clear. The same could be said for regen, though I can't be sure how I would go about that off hand.

[barren whale]

giant orange glow around your screen when trinket is active to show adrenaline rush
-# please do not actually do this

[shy marlin]

right

Make it an even bigger giant glow around your screen got it

[fickle bramble]

yeah defo

[steel mica]

@shy marlin you what now #screenshots message

💀

bro just almost 1 tapped the final boss

[shy marlin]

game has no bugs and no weird interactions

[gray sand]

And no stamina 😉

[shy marlin]

Sometimes you drink a lil red silly potion and bosses just fall over what can i say

[echo wind]

Nonsense, deathsquitoes are bugs

[upbeat echo]

I made a mosque on my server, anyone wanna check it out?

[old flint]

Why does a troll immediately sprint towards my base when it kills me? I was away mining copper when it attacked me

[echo wind]

If you had asked nicely he'd have helped you mining copper, but you didn't so he felt insulted

[fossil delta]

Thats one thing I have to be careful about. I typically build my base pretty close to my initial copper deposits. So if I get killed, things like a troll, and now probably the bears, will "follow" their aggro on me into my base.

[old flint]

My base right now is just big core wood walls in a square 😄

[fossil delta]

They hold up well enough to trolls, most of the time. I use them until I can make raised earth walls.

I usually have enough stone for how large I make my home base by the time I've dug up two copper nodes.

To be clear, I now know just how big my base will end up being, so make the wall accordingly.

[tepid anvil]

How do I join Jotunheim, It's teling me I have the wrong verson.

[old flint]

Yeah. I have core wood walls and stakewalls inserted inside of them

[gray sand]

Trolls? Where?

With today's hours I have seen a total of 3 (and in that time I have crafted fully upgraded bronze armor) -- 1 of which I had to go inside a cave to get 😭

[azure yacht]

all enemies target structures when aggroed

[old flint]

How did it know where my base is though?

[azure yacht]

depending on distance they will go to them

AI has never been reliable in the first place

[wooden tapir]

1300 hours and have not seen a starred gjall. guess i gotta spend more time in mistlands

[shy marlin]

i think they're only night time spawns

[undone forum]

Try the night

[wooden tapir]

yea, gotta go actively hunting for them

[undone forum]

I had one find me a couple months ago

[wooden tapir]

who knows how long that will take (:

i dont have good luck with night hunting

[undone forum]

Mistlands at night is just a bad idea in general

[wooden tapir]

24 nights for 2 star wolf and 30 nights for 2 star askvin last time i went hunting for something

and those are more abundant than gjall

[undone forum]

Yeah, gjalls with starts are hard to find and not to mention, hit like absolute trucks

[wooden tapir]

true, shold be ok tho

2 star askvins do like 300 dmg with their pounce i think and 120 with their normal bite

that was scary

yea 150 bite, 240 headbutt, 300 pounce

[nocturne wolf]

Their bite would be 150 blunt + 150 slash, 300 total damage

[wooden tapir]

oh true

even worse (:

basically just dont get hit

[old flint]

Yo, first time playthrough using light armor. Is troll armor viable in swamps?

[shy marlin]

Ye

I’d move to root armor when you can though

[tacit crystal]

Or bear set until Fenris.
-# At least how I played last playthrough.

[dark coyote]

root armor should make you vulnerable to pierce actually, there would be small gaps in between the weave of wood

[merry pebble]

Well, would still protect you more than just leather or paint 😄

[old flint]

root or bear for mountains?

[barren whale]

I see the vision tbh LOL
the root armor looks kinda like it's got big openings

don't wear root to frost caves unless you have access to barley wine

[dark coyote]

I would probably make each root piece modify resists as such:
pierce -5%, slash --, bludg +5%, fire -10%, frost --, poison +10%, spirit +5%, lightning -5%

[nocturne wolf]

That’s too many numbers on the item description
and why is spirit there?

[tiny tiger]

Ehhhh

[gray sand]

Why are we nerfing Root armor?

[tiny tiger]

seems odd

[tacit crystal]

Full bear set grants you nice set bonuses but also slight weaknesses to physical damage types, so for more armor, no weaknesses and no ms penalty you might want to add heavy helmet (iron) with bear chest and legs pieces.

[dark coyote]

the chest is for sure op

[tiny tiger]

The pierce resistance in my head atleast is coz it’s rooty plant like material so it makes sense that if you stab it it doesn’t do much

[dark coyote]

if you stab a root part though, if its made of woven root/bark there would be gaps, like chain mail for example, and a thrust would likely find a hole

[gray sand]

Chest is currently overpowered because it gives pierce resist and there is a litany of crap to compare it to.
Solution, imo, is found in making other armors useful, not nerfing Root.

[dark coyote]

imo both

[tacit crystal]

Or moving pierce resistance to armor set bonus.

[nocturne wolf]

Root armor should have increased defence against pierce instead of a percentage reduction so it falls off a little more through progression.

[gray sand]

Start with adding set bonuses to heavy armor and see how things shake out.
Then come back to nerf if needed.

[dark coyote]

sset bonuses force you to wear the entire set, if each peice gives a little of the intended bonus, you can mix and match

[merry pebble]

Very much depends on the stabby instrument and the size of holes 😄 and while leather for example might not have gaps, something like broad head arrow will go through it much more easily than through woody material like root, and even if it finds a gap in them it would have to be large enough.

[shy marlin]

So make the game easier?

[tiny tiger]

The pierce resistance is balanced by how ugly the armor looks when you only wear root chest lol

[dark coyote]

defends you against the piercing criticism of fellow vikings lol

[tiny tiger]

should standard heavy sets come with an armor bonus of slight blunt resistance?

[gray sand]

That's going to happen either way /shrug.
Ideally enemies would be challenging and armor would be interesting choices.
They have committed to enemies not being challenging, so I can still suggest armor being an interesting choice.

[nocturne wolf]

Why blunt specifically? The usefulness of that would vary a lot between biomes.

[dark coyote]

I think all heavy armor (and shields) should have physical resists, mainly to allow blocking/parrying of 2 ⭐

[nocturne wolf]

Character resistances don’t affect what you can block, only shield resistances do.

[tiny tiger]

Well I chose blunt specifically and only slight resistance because it makes sense for heavy plated armor to help against blunt

[dark coyote]

oh not the stun bar? I thought that w as filled with post mitigation damage

[tiny tiger]

not from a gameplay perspective

[nocturne wolf]

Yes but that post mitigation damage won’t make the block fail or not

[dark coyote]

well it will i f it kills you, or stuns you and the next hit does, I think its ridiculous that I deck my character out in the heaviest, most defensive armor available, and I can still be 1 shot

[barren whale]

tbh if they just made heavy armors -3% per piece instead of -5% on chest and legs all that mix and match stuff would be a non-issue

root chest is definitely too strong, bit that's mainly because it gives higher pierce resist than Bonemass now
I think it'd be totally fine if it just got slight resistance to bring it in line with Bonemass

[tiny tiger]

It’s a needed clutch for less experienced players imo

[barren whale]

I would be sad if helmets became -3% but I think it would be more balanced

I like the idea of a heavy armor set bonus but I think it's ultimately still a bandaid for the movespeed debuffs being distributed weird

[barren whale]

or a way for experienced players to stroll into mistlands in swamp gear

[tiny tiger]

So it allows for more interesting gameplay for more experienced players and gives less experienced players more hits they can take, why does it need a change again?

[barren whale]

idk I need to spend time fighting in heavy armor + ratatosk to see how much that mitigates the "feels like shit" part of heavy armor

[dark coyote]

snazzy even said its the most op armor in the game

[tiny tiger]

Oh for sure I agree with that but thundering berserker axes are the most op weapons in the game that doesn’t mean they need a nerf

[barren whale]

well it's a little janky
and probably unintended by devs - it's like how animation cancels make the game interesting but are kinda janky too

depends on what devs want the gameplay to be

[dark coyote]

I actually like that, I like moving around slower like a bad-ass and hitting the parries

[tiny tiger]

The 50% pierce resistance and being specifically only for chest of a set with set bonus feels very specific and intended

[barren whale]

snazzy has like 20% the hours of most ppl active in here haha
he's mostly right tho

I actually don't like set bonuses much because at that point why craft separate pieces of armor right?

and it seems like the heavy helmet mix and matching is forcing devs to lean into set bonuses to keep combos from being OP
like the old heavy helm root chest fenris pants combo

[dark coyote]

same here, as I said divide the bonuses amongst each piece and players have the freedom to mix n' match, we learned the ills of set bonuses from Diablo3

the only game I've seen do set bonuses well is DDO: they have augments (gems) which go into special sockets in armor

[tiny tiger]

Why was set bonuses so bad in Diablo?

[barren whale]

I also wonder if making one new piece of armor per biome is like cheaper than intended
so they do set bonuses so you gotta make a new full set every biome

[supple solstice]

I like set bonuses as an incentive to use certain sets in full for a thematically appropriate effect, but the separation of pieces allows you to still mix and match if you think of a good combo

[dark coyote]

because everything revolved around set bonuses, eliminating choice, Its great if you dont like thinking about it, but for a nerd, that likes minutia, theorycrafting, and using their brain, its bad

[supple solstice]

so I've always been a proponent of giving full metal a small set bonus, since full metal has always felt like a bit of a novelty compared to other choices

I don't imagine they will do that though

[dark coyote]

I agree, I would just decouple the set bonus from the items somehow, either split it amongst each peice or handle it like DDO does. I think heavy armor should contribute to blocking/parrying, medium to dodge/run/jump (athletics) and light to casting. As unique as everything is in this game I'm guessing they didnt want to pidgeon hole everything by lessons of previous games in the genre.

[supple solstice]

I more or less agree yea

[barren whale]

it is definitely a little unintuitive to me that armor has almost no effect on stagger bar (the thing that controls how much you can parry)
i get the feeling most people don't know this at all

[nocturne wolf]

It does have a noticeable effect on the staggering, only after blocking is calculated.

[barren whale]

iirc the armor is acting on damage that's gone through the block
a successful block will let through a smallish amount of damage that is basically 0 when armored
but if you parry like 300 dmg naked, the 60 or whatever dmg that slips through will still hit pretty hard
does that sound right?

my buddy said he saw armor value directly used in the blocking code but i couldn't find that bit

[nocturne wolf]

Armor is applied after damage modifiers which are applied after blocking so they're not even close to each other