valheim-chat

[barren whale]

i mean in general
you'll wanna save up frost arrows for mistlands if you do

[foggy glacier]

Agreed. I'm always leery of making eyescream now. I'm switching to skewer/onion soup & the swamp feast for this playthrough.

while in the mountains, I mean.

[barren whale]

onions are absolutely goated but i prefer to save those too for salad and super salad

[wary nimbus]

how do you move tamed boars? I'm still only through black forest, just realized my 1 star I cordoned off to tame won't be easy to move back to my base once it is tamed

[barren whale]

tbh for that reason i tend to run 2hp since its easier to make

[barren whale]

very painfully

[foggy glacier]

by the time you get to salad, you should have an enormous farm.

[barren whale]

you can use harpoon to drag boars around but it'll suck

nah i try not to farm too much

hence cloudberry

[foggy glacier]

going to be tough. harpoon works, like miker said. You can also use fences for a run back to base, depending on how far it is, or try getting them on a boat.

[wary nimbus]

oof

[foggy glacier]

How far is it? You might be better off finding a new starred boar to tame.

[wary nimbus]

is the karve big enough to hold one while it sails?

[barren whale]

more of a challenge preventing it from wandering off the boat while you're sailing

[wary nimbus]

yeah, I think so. I suspect the base I have is too close to spawn to get starred boars, so they feel rarer than I read they are

[foggy glacier]

definitely big enough. challenge is keeping him on it.

[wary nimbus]

ah well, worst case scenario I just make more boar sacrifice pits and call it even

[foggy glacier]

You have to get more than 800m out to get starred boars. It's actually not that far.

[wary nimbus]

its difficult for me to estimate distances on the map, it looks like most of the accessible meadows is centered around spawn (settled north of spawn but it is basically black forest and island end). I suppose Ican still set up a little boar farm here for kicks and make a portal when I find another burial chamber to raid

[strong sphinx]

what does the parry bonus multiplier do? never really understood it

[nocturne wolf]

It multiplies block armor when parrying

[strong sphinx]

oh so it just makes parrying easier since its more or less a statcheck right

[nocturne wolf]

The damage is reduced more so you can parry more damage than you can block

[strong sphinx]

damn, bucklers are still the "meta" then

the buff that towershields gotten the last update dont matter that much afterall

[nocturne wolf]

And parrying was buffed too

[strong sphinx]

ah yeah true

bit of a bummer cause i like the idea of being an impenetrable wall but running a "kit" like that in this game isnt really rewarded like it should be probably

too slow, too lethargic, aggro is hard to manage so you cant pull it off of your teammates efficiently

i wonder if there are any mods that make stuff like normal shields and towershields more useful

[barren whale]

you can level them well beyond normal using CLLC type stuff but it doesn't fix the aggro and speed

its conceivable to use Bonemass to farm stamina with tower shields 🤷‍♂️
haven't really tried that playstyle though

[shy marlin]

Why react to enemy when you can just stagger it

[glacial seal]

anyone from asian ?

[silk token]

25 health 75 stamina. at least you were on the beat

[silk token]

good point scales, one style you might like is crowd control tank instead of aggro pull tank. use atgier, battleaxe, 2 hand hammer, they have pushback and stagger to peel off your friends

[strong sphinx]

wait thats genius

i completely forgot about the hammers

im already using the atgier though, really good weapon

[ornate basin]

Yeah but im also oneshot with fenris gear lol

Why mace anyways?? Why not just use a sword? And whats wrong with bows? Just oneshot 90% of the enemies at a distance

[ornate basin]

I usually just tame them at my base because they will follow you when wild

[kind lodge]

Would you say turning off the teleport restriction for iron or silver ore is cheating?

[tacit crystal]

It's an option in world modifiers to turn off portal restrictions, so it's valid and I don't see it as cheating.

[wooden tapir]

play however you want to play, but most of the time i prefer not too. it feels more rewarding when i do it the hard old fashioned way

just preference

[tacit crystal]

It's good to have preferences in weapon types/fighting styles too, would be bit boring IMO if everyone liked the same things.

[strong sphinx]

can someone tell me where the block sheet is?

[tacit crystal]

Look out for pinned messages in top corner.

[strong sphinx]

i know someone mentioned that we have a block sheet somewhere that calculates how much block you need with what shield on what difficulty in order to parry and stuff

[strong sphinx]

yeah thats where i was looking but i dont think i found it

nevermind got it

[tacit crystal]

Should be in one of Scarlet's posts IIRC.

[azure yacht]

Does it matter if it is?

[gray sand]

Someone is reading my sheet? 😭💛

[wicked quarry]

It’s customizing your preferred play style. It’s not ‘cheating’ because you are not competing with anyone.

To me, it’s a quality of life thing. I don’t find fun in endlessly sailing my ores back and forth from source to base. For others, they don’t play with portals or maps. To each their own.

[tiny tiger]

I just make new ore refining structures on the major islands

If the island has a Black Forest swamp and mountain it makes sense to base somewhere near all 3 or atleast 2 of them and ideally near the coast

I am playing with 2x resources tho to ease the grind

I’ve only just discovered on my most recent playthrough that it’s totally viable to do in the swamp as long as you have atleast 2 surtling spawners, I usually play where I do a huge haul filling the longship up with iron but I’ve decided to go with a more decentralised playstyle and it’s paying off

[ornate basin]

sure i guess but why use iron mace in plains?!

[gray sand]

Is the question why iron mace or still "why not use sword"?

[fossil delta]

The iron mace works great in the plains. Plus you don't have to deal with the ridiculous knockback of Frostner. A sword is great too, but I still love Porcupine best. Once I can make it.

[heady parcel]

Biggest drawback of Frostner is how much it sucks in the very biome you get it. Every time I go back to the mountains and run into a golem I get reminded. "Oh yeah, should have brought the iron club. Doh!"

[azure yacht]

i'm still confused on why people ask how to play their own game...

like, why does the opinion of complete strangers that have 0 relevance in your playthrough matter at all?

when did people start losing thought/opinion independence?

[fossil delta]

Yeah, you can still beat a golem, of course, but it takes longer,

[heady parcel]

Yeah. It annoys me a bit that Frostner's blunt damage does not grow at all with upgrades

[fossil delta]

Especially with how much freakin silver it takes.

[tacit crystal]

The amount of frost damage helps against seekers tho.

[fossil delta]

Fortunately Frostner and the silver sword become very usable in the Ashalnds.

[smoky quarry]

i only use the pickaxe on golems. You guys use weapons?

[fossil delta]

Iron mace all the way.

On the golems.

[smoky quarry]

hardcore

[fossil delta]

Works great. Beat a golem in 4 or 5 hits.

[tacit crystal]

You can staggerlock golem easily with secondary attacks of iron mace.

[fossil delta]

I don't even use it. Staggerlock it pretty often even without the secondary, Might help my skill is usually in the 50's or 60's by then.

Plus I am not looking to take down a golem fast when I first go into the mountains. I want it to help me get my block skill higher as well. So I'm letting it hit me a lot.

I do much the same with Lox, and now viles, in the plains.

[barren whale]

block skill doesn't level faster with golems than greydwarves
tho you could argue that it should

[fossil delta]

Not saying it does, but if your not using block, it doesn't go up at all. Like my wife doesn't even use shields, so she has no blocking skill.

[barren whale]

imo take an iron mace with you to mountains and just remember to craft the frostner before yag/mistlands

[fossil delta]

Like neither my wife and I dodge roll, so that new dodge skill is useless to both of us.

[barren whale]

on a side note flametal mace is goated if you want to cheese ||Lord reto|| as you can just time middle clicks and dribble his ass
probably applicable to all charred warriors

[fossil delta]

I have yet to even make that, let alone fight him. I keep stopping playing Ashlands. Like this time was to start a new game with a couple of friends. Doesn't help that I hate the Ashlands anyways.

In fact I hope in the future I will like the North lands, and will be able to just skip the Ashlands entirely.

Which would mean I won't even have to fight the Queen either. Even though she is a cool trophy.

[wide kestrel]

Guys, is it just me or this 100% eitr regeneration speed from queen doesnt work? I cant sense any difference to be honest

[echo wind]

They see me dodge-rollin', they hatin'

[ornate basin]

dodge roll is important

[fossil delta]

Considering my wife and I are starting our way into the Mistlands, and neither of us have died a single time yet, its not important.

Newsflash, neither is parry. Neither of us parry, either. I only block.

My wife doesn't even use shields, let alone block or parry with her weapons.

She only uses what she calls "savage aggression".

I have to say, it works.

[smoky quarry]

with more, game is fantastic. Big shield combo with a pole player behind and you can take over the world

[tacit crystal]

2 handed weapons?

[fossil delta]

Neither of us use a pole weapon. She rotates between axes and maces/hammers. I usually use the maces or hammers, and starting in the plains, a sword. Even though lately I have used the axe a lot more. I also use the sledges, and we both love the crystal battle axe. I'd say we do a pretty good job of taking over Valheim. We both have those weapon skills above 50 at this point.

[fossil delta]

She uses the crystal battle axe for a time, but I use them more.

She never uses the sledges, she leaves that to me.

[tacit crystal]

Glad we have now 2 new battleaxes to upgrade from Crystal.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I've been tempted to make the black metal one. Mostly because we have so much black metal. We love wiping out villages. Its why we take so long to move on to the Mistlands. 😄

It doesn't hurt in helping us build up a lot of lox meat supplies.

Speaking of supplies, I need to go fishing while my wife is working. So... later.

[steel mica]

Probably a deathsquito

yes I know old question

[silk token]

Has anyone looked closely at evasion mantle? it's +50% parry bonus so instead of x1.5 it would be x2 for normal shield?

[steel mica]

I havent used it myself but it could be something

Could prove useful in some fights

[tacit crystal]

I think the blackmetal battleaxe looks cool and it hits hard.
-# Honestly I think even though Crystal battleaxe looks cool it is bit "too much", I prefer more simpler looking weapons.

[silk token]

i'm considering it headed into mistlands because it can turn 2 stars from "yeah right" to "probably"

especially with a battleaxe that's only 50 block armor... 100 with parry goes to 150 with parry

[tacit crystal]

#screenshots message @spring estuary You have found a new mob introduced in Call to Arms update, it's called ||Vile (aka undead bear)||. 👍

[spring estuary]

ah. okay. sadly it despawned after like 12 seconds, i was sailing by it and stopped, but it despawned already

[tacit crystal]

Yes, they spawn only during night in plains, which is why it despawned.

[silk token]

i keep seeing them in the daytime far off spawned but not actually there, and as soon as i get close-ish the game registers the change and they blink away, its so sad. but it at least tells me i can find them there the next night

[spring estuary]

oh. i guess i happened to see it right before it despawned becuase it just turned day like 2 sconds earlier if i remember correctly

thanks

[smoky quarry]

not the last you'll see it

[spring estuary]

ive been wandering the plains at night quite a bit but never encountered it so far. only saw it far in the distance like Yacko

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, they might appear outside the active zone area but once they are in the active area they disappear.

[spring estuary]

i thought i was imagining things at first lol

[silk token]

yup.. 🙁 i notice the same thing with old fires and torches i make i try to not get close cuz then they always stay lit XD

[tacit crystal]

They are listed as very rare spawn. I usually encounter 1-3 of them during night when I focus on looking for them.

[steel mica]

Even on default setting, my boi bjorn hits like a truck

so thats a warning to new comers

[silk token]

they definitely have a respawn timer too, because i see zero after and have to wait many in game days suddenly i see 5 at once

[tacit crystal]

Sometimes it's easy to mistake lox for one but one noticeable sign of Vile is visible "stench" aura around them from afar.

[silk token]

the good thing is there's a spawn i can see from my keep so i peek and see if they're back

[spring estuary]

not new, but new to seeing that guy. thanks for the warning. like how much compared to lox is meant with "like a truck"?

[tacit crystal]

They can hit at least as hard or a bit harder than lox.

[silk token]

i think more hp too or at least way more stagger resist

[tacit crystal]

Yes, and also ||resistance to all physical damage types||.

But noticeable weakness due to being undead.

[silk token]

crystal baxe is > blackmetal on them ya

ive killed so many without the head drop.... havin some of that RNG real bad... didnt get in on ptb at least

[steel mica]

Id say its similar to the pierce attack of a seeker on default settings

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, that's 10% chance for ya.

[silk token]

has anyone done the numbers on exactly what the stagger diff is between shield parry and weapon parry? im staring at my stagger bar trying to guestimate, it's like.... 25% more stagger with weapon parry? and i'm def taking zero actual damage cuz parry armor is 100 vs deathsquito

LOL yooooooo literally... so I'm sailing and fog hits, i'm like sigh might as well go wander the plains in the fog and look for a vile spawn. i run a bit insland and just run and run wander whatever. just before dawn i kill the one vile i find. the fog clears. before me stands... the yagluth marker.

and no way in hell ida found it if i didnt get hit with stupid ocean fog. thank you odin

[compact hamlet]

Hello guys, I'm looking for someone to playing Valheim and maybe in future became a friend, if someone interested just text me.I'll tell about myself in my personal messages.

[merry pebble]

You can also look in and/or make a post in #1024264966712340510 if you want 😄

[steel mica]

@tacit crystal just a quickie

which would help me better in very hard combat

block force or parry bonus

[gray sand]

Those are... completely unrelated things.

Also why does Joel get all the blocking questions? 😭

[steel mica]

lmao

[steel mica]

I mean ive just been relying on dodges and I wanna utilize the shields more rather than just dodge

[gray sand]

If you're on very hard, what "helps you more" is just atgeirs + berserker mead and never blocking because dodgeroll.

[steel mica]

💀

[gray sand]

If you feel compelled to block -- bucklers.

[steel mica]

So basically a scales run

just dodges

[last otter]

How about a the biggest shield possible with dagger run?

[gray sand]

On vh you want the smallest shield.

[tacit crystal]

Err, I'll pass, thanks.

[steel mica]

Time to test out myself

[last otter]

What’s wrong with big big shield?

[tacit crystal]

Heh, kidding about the choice of words.

[gray sand]

It blocks less than the small shield.

[tacit crystal]

I haven't played on VH tho, but many things are harder to parry in that difficulty.

[steel mica]

You mean the tower shields?

[tacit crystal]

Tower shields cannot parry.

[last otter]

🤨

Huh?

[gray sand]

I do not know how else to phrase it.

[last otter]

BIG shield block MORE!

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-angry-hulk-smash-pissed-off-mad-gif-16087208

[gray sand]

Numbers in #valheim-help

[steel mica]

A shocks

[neon steppe]

can you lead tamed boars across land?

[tacit crystal]

Slight correction, some attacks become impossible to parry.

[tacit crystal]

You can drag them with the help of harpoon.

[gray sand]

-# If only there was a way to see which attacks can and cannot be parried...

[steel mica]

An indicator would be cool

[gray sand]

OR MAYBE A SPREADSHEET?

[steel mica]

lel

[gray sand]

😭

[steel mica]

Swamp is gonna be fun

I have not returned to swamps in such a long time

even on my original world

[steel mica]

Im doing a "sword run"

where my weapon for most combats are a sword

[gray sand]

Intentionally making the game harder? A true Scales follower. 😛

[steel mica]

Yes, and starting fresh :DD

[tacit crystal]

No food no powers too?

[steel mica]

Nah im not a true masochist unlike scales

[gray sand]

I do have a new challenge run for him the next time he is around 😄

[steel mica]

A no food run for me would be a death sentence when greydwarf raids start coming

[tacit crystal]

Tell me. 👀

[gray sand]

||No spoilers||

[steel mica]

I wonder

what are these trolls eating off the ground

I keep seeing their "picking up" animation from time to time

are they like vegetarian

[hard gale]

probably omnivores

they munch on shrubs when they dont have a fresh kill in the cave maybe

[steel mica]

There are skeletal remains outside their caves

[kind lodge]

I accidentally died on the moder boss and the wolf broke my portal is there any other way to get all the way back?

I would have to sail all the way back which is half of the map

[steel mica]

No other way

sail

unless you have a backup then sure

[fiery furnace]

i played this game when it came out and had the initial hype
didnt like much that i can not take ore with me as traveling was a pain if you needed ore

that was with 2 friends, but nowadays i think about a solo playthrough, i just dont know if its boring and how much hours i can expect if im a cozy builder mostly

[steel mica]

Expect to put into a good chunk of your time playing valheim

[gray sand]

World Sliders allow you options like more resource drops and "portal anything"

[steel mica]

you can get really into this game

[fiery furnace]

how much hours

expect

[steel mica]

Like a couple hundred

[gray sand]

Over a thousand, easy.

[steel mica]

maybe even 700h

Not even close to what others have reached

[fiery furnace]

why is that

[gray sand]

Why is fun, fun?
Solve that and you will be published in multiple journals.

[fiery furnace]

then 2 more questions

1. can a base be defended so i dont have to actively defend it anymore
2. is there any type of automation these days? through npcs or whatever

[gray sand]

1. You can disable raids entirely.
2. This is not a factory game.

[heady parcel]

This is what I love most with Valheim - there is no "right" way to play the game. You can opt for a variety of styles and make them work for you, even more so in groups since you can compensate each other's weaknesses if you have any. Of course you can theorycraft an optimum build and/or strategy for speedrunning or whatever, but it is strictly not necessary to min max and still progress while getting challenged and having a blast.

[steel mica]

1 - disable raids or get automatic defense later on

2 - no

You can modify the game to your hearts content

[fiery furnace]

but what gets you the 1k hours
like the progress or just building around?

or mostly just traveling?

[gray sand]

Why is fun, fun?
Solve that and you will be published in multiple journals.

[fiery furnace]

i try to ask it another way then

what is the 1k hours filled with, what task mostly

[gray sand]

"Playing the game" -- non-specific. Doing multiple, varied things because the game is fun, so we keep playing it.

Counter-question: Why do you care how other people play the game when it has zero influence on how you, personally, will play the game?

[steel mica]

You'll find out

The beauty of a game is experiencing it yourself

[fiery furnace]

i asked this because id like to know if you want to play 1k hours or if its needed to play 1k hours

[gray sand]

Want.

[fiery furnace]

i dont want to find myself being bored after 200 hours because game is finished, contents done

[gray sand]

If your only goal is beat bosses and drop the game then this isn't for you.
It's doing everything else that racks the hours up.

[echo wind]

True vikings use spreadsheets

[steel mica]

There is no need to drop thousands upon thousands of hours

[echo wind]

Craftable kalkylblad when

[steel mica]

The game is decently long if your goal is just to fight the bosses and then drop out

[gray sand]

Huh?

[echo wind]

Swedish for spreadsheet 😇

Literally "calculation leaf"

[fiery furnace]

nah im a cozy builder aswell, so most time will prob be spending building

once i overcome my mental issues as of "why am i playing solo-games as a 27 year old when theres better things to do, like improving my life" XD

[last otter]

What’s your guy’s favorite boss fight?

Why?

[gray sand]

Hi. 33 year old. I play solo games because they calm and relax me, which is a way of improving my life as recovering from how not calm and not relaxing the rest of life can be.

[sly quail]

Eikthyr because it's the most demanding and most difficult

[last otter]

Really? What makes the other bosses easier for you?

[sly quail]

They're all trivial and simple.

[last otter]

Hmm, I guess that’s fair lol.

[last otter]

So you’ve spent the most time dying on Eikthyer?

[sly quail]

No I've never died on any boss fights

[last otter]

🤨

Am I that bad?

[sly quail]

Valheim in general is a fairly simplistic game combat wise, every monster in the game can easily be avoided with the exception of maybe charred warriors before you understand their attack pattern.

People spend too much time swinging and not enough time looking.

[last otter]

Yea, well I haven’t actually played in a bit lol.

[steel mica]

The Queen

[last otter]

The queen!? Why!?

[silk token]

there is tremendous replay value. worlds are generated hugely different. tons of weapons and playstyles to use through the game. you can build gather cook etc til your eyes bleed. even chopping trees is insanely satisfying somehow

[fiery furnace]

yea ill give it a try

[steel mica]

good boss fight, difficult boss, and the music... especially the part near the end that guiter riff

[last otter]

Oh I think I do remember the music being really good, maybe you’re right.

[steel mica]

Shes a difficult boss fight and one I like

[smoky quarry]

queen was good fight. All over those stairs and floating about, mega

[steel mica]

Shes constantly up in your face

[last otter]

Right, hm I think you guys are right on this lolol.

[smoky quarry]

trapped in a room full of bugs

[last otter]

I died multiple times. 😭

[smoky quarry]

Queens got to eat too

[last otter]

[steel mica]

Its an intense fight because of her constant aggression and spawning of adds

[heady parcel]

I've died once or twice vs Yagluth when in a group, I wasn't prepared for his increased damage output and got sloppy

That thing really likes to vomit AoE stuff

Actually didn't die vs queen, mostly because of cowardly guerilla tactics, I fled back to the entrance to kill adds whenever they appeared, then tossed like 80 bombs in her face in total

[last otter]

True Viking way.

[gray sand]

My highest death counter remains trees...

[heady parcel]

For me it is falling to my death when building

[steel mica]

Combination of ooze bombs and bile bombs

[heady parcel]

Keep forgetting to eat and OOPPSIE <splat>

[echo wind]

Be careful when chopping those trees tho. They seem harmless but they can and will fall on your head and kill you if you don't pay attention / don't eat 😄

[last otter]

Never happened to me because I’m so bad at building you can forget trying to build a second or more story.

[steel mica]

People gotten used to the chop tree > no fall tree

the only game that does this similarly to valheim is the forest

[last otter]

Right.

[heady parcel]

Haha right, I like building tall so it is a constant danger. This is my latest project, actually haven't died yet this time - been better at topping up the foods! #building-screenshots message

[steel mica]

I SWEAR THE RESOURCE MODIFIER HAS AN IMPACT ON FISH

BC THAT IS ONE LARGE TROLLFISH

[last otter]

That is straight heat bro! Better than me for sure obviously lol. You might be better than my brother, he loves building and he built a Mead Hall.

[fiery furnace]

i guess its hard to build megabases? xD

[last otter]

For me? Yes. Yes it is.

[steel mica]

No map run is such a nightmare

especially when you're at sea

[last otter]

9 spear run, anyone?

[fiery furnace]

one last thing before i start

Can you build onto water? like having a base on a sea or smth?

[echo wind]

Takes a lot of materials, patience and a powerful computer, but definitely doable otherwise

[echo wind]

Yes but not when it's too deep

[last otter]

Yea, just make sure you got support beams on the sea floor.

As low as you can go, that is the limit.

[steel mica]

You can, just like what stratadox said "takes alot of materials"

and this is talking from experience aswell

[gray lava]

do you have to use fish of the same level while making potions like: vanalir, trolls endurance?

[merry pebble]

Yep

[last otter]

Zep.

[steel mica]

Zep 😭

[merry pebble]

-# I had EN keyboard enabled for some reason xD

[steel mica]

Ah

[fossil delta]

Yeah, for a long time I was not getting why my wife plays the way she does, but up to a point it even works for me. Its surprising how often her "savage aggression" is very effective. So I've been adopting it in more and more situations for myself.

[heady parcel]

Sounds like she would be a menace with berserkir mead and red gemmed weapons from Ashlands...

[fossil delta]

She is building up a large amount of the meads, so she has plans.

[steel mica]

Your wife bout to do a boss marathon to see how fast she can slay the forsakens

[fossil delta]

Pretty sure she is happy with how fast we do it already. Like we took down Yag in under 3 minutes. Maybe she wants to see how she does solo, but she hasn't indicated that to me.

[fiery furnace]

Hm i dont remember valheim eating that much Ressources

[fossil delta]

Its always consumed a lot of resources. In fact, I think they have lowered some of the numbers since 4 years ago

Silver is still pretty crazy, though.

[gray sand]

Wolf spear requiring silver but not doing spirit damage is bs. 😭

[fossil delta]

I've never made that spear, so never noticed. But yeah, considering the silver cost for all the other weapons, especially Frostner and the silver sword, I have some issues.

[azure yacht]

if you manage to play 200 hours or more then you got your money's worth by ten times

[fossil delta]

Heh, 4800+ hours and counting. No mods. I've got my moneys worth, and then a lot more.

[fiery furnace]

tbh i was looking for a game where i can put 1k hours+ with sense, building cozy and progressing slowly

[azure yacht]

then i recommend you play one called "Valheim"

[gray sand]

You just defined Valheim 😄

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I played progressing slowly. Doing a hell of a lot of building, and renovating structures throughout the world, etc... Its actually the way I prefer to play. Just my wife doesn't like building, so the nearly 2,000 hours I've played this with her, I do my building while she works her job. She doesn't even see a lot of the stuff I do. It just doesn't interest her.

😄 She is often so oblivious, I have to even point out the trophies I put up around our base. 😄 😄

[fiery furnace]

Some survival games have automation through npcs, even minecraft added the copper golems now to automate stuff

I just hope it will not turn into work at some point, like a cycle of just doing tasks for survival like gathering meat etc. but ill start the game in a few

[fossil delta]

They let you set up things, via farming and taming several creatures. You get that automation stuff from the mods.

[gray sand]

Yeah... collecting resources and bringing them back is core gameplay so...

[fossil delta]

Yeah, but we can decide on the scale of it. So the larger I scale it, the less often I have to go back and do it to keep myself stocked, because I can plant or slaughter large amounts at a time.

[steel mica]

Rewarding gameplay

[olive adder]

ROBERRT

[fossil delta]

Which is why I plant so much stuff, like onions, barley, whatever. The more I plant, the less often I have to do it again. Same goes for slaughtering my boar or wolves.

[olive adder]

he ROBBERTD the bank !!!

can i jooin

[fossil delta]

I don't tame Lox, I much prefer just hunting them.

[steel mica]

HOLY CRAP YESSSSS

HALDOR NO MAP

[fossil delta]

Something I will never do. You guys just don't get how directionally challenged I am even with a map in Valheim. Which angers me a great deal, because I am exceptional with maps in real life.

[gray sand]

Same. I can do no portal, but no map is never happening.

[steel mica]

I dont mind no map

[fossil delta]

I could do no portal. Since I like slow progression. That just helps things go slower.

[steel mica]

I actually like it because I dont have to constantly look on my map every second

but still

YES HALDOR

[gray sand]

I don't look at my map every second either?

I look at it maybe twice per in-game day.

[steel mica]

You dont wanna see my map on my other world 💀

[fossil delta]

Me neither. IS that why I am so directionally challenged in Valheim? I'm not looking at the map enough?

Whomever made me realize I could use pinging for myself, thanks. Thats been a huge help. Drives my wife nuts at times, but thats just a bonus to me.

[steel mica]

At sea I almost got lost like a few minutes ago, but on land I got no problems navigating

[thorny quiver]

Thats why i personaly like to settle or large ish island

[fossil delta]

You know those direction signs in the pre existing villages? I use those for myself in game.

I make trails, put up signs, just to help myself find my way around without having to look at my map.

Or to ping locations.

[silk token]

have fun! stay spoiler free! the best part of valheim is yelling “what the hell is that?!”

[fossil delta]

I got to do that over the Vile. So refreshing.

[silk token]

i did it with new ghost, it took me a second to figure it out

[fossil delta]

Oh yeah, that too!

[silk token]

but my butt was running the other way til i realized

[gray sand]

I prefer the old ghost 🙁

[fossil delta]

I'm a fan of the ghost trophy.

[silk token]

same. old ghost was “what the hell is that?” HYYYSAYAH! “what the hell IS this??”

[fossil delta]

I'm also a huge fan of that one trophy you get from the Hildir quests. Looks like Ghost Rider.

[silk token]

was super anticlimactic when mounting ghost trophy

was like a green pea with a frowny face

[fossil delta]

Reminds me of the old glow in the dark skeleton masks.

Which was new for me, as a kid.

[silk token]

It just needs to be a little bigger, it’s so small

[fossil delta]

I feel that way about a few of the trophies. The Draugr Elite being my biggest issue.

I mean, we need that thing for a huge Maul, but its that tiny? Come on!

I also expected that sledge to at least look like it was made with that head, you know, as Stagbreaker at least looks like its made with antlers? But no. They missed that boat completely.

[gray sand]

Iron sledge incorporating that head would have been metal af.

[fossil delta]

Yep.

[gray sand]

If Frostner was a two-hander I wouldn't hate it 😁

[fossil delta]

I would not be against that. Its knockback would also make a lot more sense.

[gray sand]

Precisely.

[fossil delta]

Plus that much silver for something that big would be easier to buy into.

Not that realistic metallurgy has ever been anything IG has gone for.

[gray sand]

😁

[heady parcel]

If two-handers had actual attack animations and the ME SMASH thing was its secondary

That would in fact make it awesome

[smoky quarry]

cant. Stop. Buidling.

[heady parcel]

Why would you 😉

[gray sand]

When you run out of resources. 😏

[heady parcel]

I've actually run out of wood, never thought that would happen looking at my giant stack of lumber a few days ago

[smoky quarry]

I got about 30 oak trees planted front yard, every few days i chop thru and replant fast. Huge wood pile carts full

[heady parcel]

Oh, I so rarely get acorns from felling oaks that I pretty much never do it, I plant one near base to use as beehive tower, then I leave them in peace...

[smoky quarry]

i find it pays off with bigger numbers

one tree can give 6 or 8, with many in line of chop, you get way more for sure

[last otter]

Say “murder moder” 10x fast lol.

[heady parcel]

I levelled a birch forest that was blocking the sea view from my mansion, so I have all the finewood I'll ever need, but regular wood ran out. Gotta go plant a patch of beeches

[heady parcel]

I get one every five oaks or so... RNG shenanigans. Or do you have increased resources? That might affect it?

[tacit crystal]

Hmm, current battleaxe animation to sledge primary and battleaxes getting new, faster attack animation?
-# Just some idea, not serious suggestion.

[heady parcel]

I wouldn't mind that to be honest, only time I ever use the sledge is to cheeze mobs in crypts. I have prospected for silver once or twice too, but that feels so stupid that I've stopped doing it 😄

[smoky quarry]

just took down 2 oaks and got 10 corns

maybe i had a few in. Anyhow after deleting whole forest, i got more than chopped usually. Got no room to expand though

you also get a lot of resin and feathers from these bad boys

[heady parcel]

Haha dangit my new house is so big one hearth is not enough to heat it, but I only built one chimney...

[gray sand]

Just the windup on the very first Battleaxe swing needs to be cut by like 0.2s

[heady parcel]

But the next one will be perfect

[gray sand]

I stopped building chimneys when I realized all you need is a tall roof and the particles despawn.

[smoky quarry]

you can make an arched chimney leading to the center, need some iron.

[heady parcel]

I have several floors, so that only works up top

[tacit crystal]

Fair, would be good for people who say it's slow.

[smoky quarry]

as with castle keeps, you can have one chimney connecting several floor fire places

centrally placed and linking each

[gray sand]

It's the only change they need imo. That first attack is just barely too slow for me to use them.

[smoky quarry]

nothing more cozy than chimney smoke

[chrome badge]

I got into the habit of just jumping in with the first battleaxe swing so it's a part of the approach, it feels a bit quicker this way

[smoky quarry]

for my longhouse i use 4 windows different levels, smoke goes out thru them nicely

[heady parcel]

Yeah, vertically it's not that big of a problem though, on top floors I can have some braziers etc since the ceiling is high. And it doesn't really matter below either since I can stack comfort stuff over different floors

[fossil delta]

I only do one main floor, and then a... loft? A partial upper floor for the beds. So while I have several hearths going, my roof is so high the smoke just dissipates.

[heady parcel]

I didn't need this big of a house, but it was fun building it 😄

[smoky quarry]

yea, tell me about it

[fossil delta]

Mine is rather big too. I will be able to fit all the craft tables along with tons of chests, and several hearths, with all the cooking needs, inside of it and still feel nice and roomy.

I only have the 5 ovens outside. Plus the smelters/blast furnaces.

[chrome badge]

I opt into very small homes in my main bases, outside of comfort items, a fire, and a bed, I see no real reason to keep anything around. I typically have a very visible smoke stack and can tell when my fire has gone out on my approach to my home.

[fossil delta]

My other style is a small home then an big out door pavilion, under which I have all my crafting stations.

[chrome badge]

Yeah I do that as well 🤘

[fossil delta]

I actually prefer that style, but the flying events were getting too annoying.

So since I was going to build a wall of some type anyways, I may as well put it all under just one roof.

[heady parcel]

I build differently each time to try stuff out, this time it became a huge stone mansion, last time it was a stupidly high wooden tower built around a pine tree...

Never died so much building as when I built that one

Built at sea level, had snow on the roof 😄

[chrome badge]

I try to go for a realistic village layout as accurately as I can, but with some alterations for ease of access for a solo player.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I've tried out a few good looking ideas I've seen here. Just after about.... 3500 hours of playing, I tried out pretty much all of the ones that looked interesting to me. So now I just build one big home, and put the bedding items on a loft area that doesn't go over any fires. Including the hot tub.

[neon magnet]

Whelp, survived the ocean trip on a raft 😄 Got a bed set up in a little 2x2 prefab so now I should be good to conquer this new continent in (relative) safety

[fossil delta]

The hugest build I ever did, and it was two of us, was building and connecting 7 stone pillars in the plains. Had two Keeps on the ground, and one on top of one of the pillars. The pictures used to be here, before the big... hack.

[heady parcel]

Sounds crazy

[fossil delta]

It was. Took a huge amount of wood and stone, and iron.

The fact that we were even able to connect a couple of those pillars, it was surprising.

[heady parcel]

I've seen some builds using those pillars, started on a few myself but never really liked how they were going to they ended up being pretty simple towers up top with a portal, and my plains crops down below..

[fossil delta]

We did the build just to see what we could do.

We were able to do far more than we thought we would be able to. So it was very cool.

[heady parcel]

Iron supports give some crazy possibilities if you combine them with natural "supports" like those rocks or, erm, pine trees...

[fossil delta]

Yeah, we didn't use any trees, even though we kept that option in mind. We just never needed to use it. To our surprise, honestly.

[chrome badge]

Friendly reminder #building-screenshots message

[fossil delta]

We had our screenshots in screenshots. The building channels weren't created yet.

[chrome badge]

What? I'm just linking an old post of mine, not re-routing you 😛

[fossil delta]

Just saying, in case anyone tries a search. Even though the hack ruined it all.

[heady parcel]

I see some of the stuff people build and feel pretty limited in my creativity, goddam haha

[tacit crystal]

Ohoo, spooky time decorations have arrived.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, people build some really amazing stuff. Far more amazing than anything I have built, for sure.

[chrome badge]

Jack-o-turnips are back?

[tacit crystal]

And pointy hats.

[fossil delta]

October 1st, right?

[chrome badge]

Rejoice 😄

[tacit crystal]

Yes, in my timezone at least.

Almost 1am.

[fossil delta]

SWEET!

I'll sign in and see if I can access it, even though its still Sept for me.

[gray sand]

Jackoturnip is the best buildable.

[fossil delta]

Dang it! Its apparently time zone sensitive. Picked up a turnip and no recipe.

[heady parcel]

Sailing by a small island where there's a log troll and a bear chilling out. Sailed by them at least ten times by now, the bear doesn't move much but the troll stomps around. Stood on top of his cave looking out at me, thought he'd walk into the ocean and swim after...

[tacit crystal]

I threw my cape on floor and got recipes.

[nocturne wolf]

What would happen in multiplayer between different time zones

[merry pebble]

Yep, it checks your devices time 🙂

[tacit crystal]

The timezone of host?

[steel mica]

Im still ingame

no changes

[fossil delta]

Maybe it only checks on start up? So restart?

Guess I'll go fight Yag again, so I can put his head over my front door, along with the rest.

[nocturne wolf]

Seasons are only checked on startup

[tacit crystal]

🧙‍♀️⌛ ?

[merry pebble]

5 more minutes 😄

-# Or 7? Why the heck is discord clock different to my pc clock

[fossil delta]

Besides, Yag's head is very Holloween appropriate.

[steel mica]

I FOUND HILDIR

I did not expect to find hildir right after searching for haldor for like minutes

[heady parcel]

Oh, got Running 100, when did that happen..

[light moat]

Witching season!

[tacit crystal]

1min left.

[neon magnet]

Accidentally cut down my first berry bush for this playthrough. RIP perfect run

[chrome badge]

Not berry good

[fossil delta]

Beat Yag in 2:24, solo. Personal best.

[gray sand]

2 hours and 24 minutes? 👀

[fossil delta]

2 minutes, 24 seconds, smart azz.

Even though my first fight with him lasted about that long.

I had no idea what I was doing, and went about as completely wrong in fighting him as you could.

[wooden moth]

his aoe fire burn attack is so awful

[fossil delta]

My Tower Shield blocks it completely. It just knocks me back. A lot.

I'm sure the fire mead helps with that too.

[gray sand]

Idk, maybe it was from world creation and you speed speedrun'd Yag in under 3 hours 😏

[gray sand]

Fire Resist Wine.
Dodge roll the initial hit (or block) and then you can just facetank the fire half of it.

[chrome badge]

I just realized the icon for fists is 2 open hands.. ah yes, the old open fists.

[wooden moth]

i only used buckler and smaller shield

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I just block. No need for rolling, etc...

Tower shields take care of everything.

Most of the time. There are exceptions.

As I am sure Sev's work sheet covers.

Do we have any light sources that kind of work as spot lights? I want to light up my boss trophies, which are on the front of my house.

But not light up my front yard, since my wisp collectors are there, so need darkness.

[gray sand]

Down-facing dverger circlets.

[fossil delta]

OK, I'll experiment with the one I own. Then go from there.

[pliant hatch]

That's because you slap you opponents to death.....

[chrome badge]

Now I want slap weapons 🙂

[pliant hatch]

And a slapping game?

[chrome badge]

You just said we slap them to death.

[neon magnet]

I wonder... if wolves and boars etc are of different factions and hostile to eachother - could a wild wolf aggro a wild boar, kill it, then when calmed down eat the meat and get tamed? All without any player intervention except just being nearby for a time? 😅🤔

[foggy glacier]

I don't see why not.

that would be funny though? wake up one morning and find him sitting there with his tongue hanging out. WTF? How did I get a dog?

[echo wind]

Probably. Such things can happen with loxes, too 🙂

[steel mica]

Me: casually building

1 Star Draugr: Eat this 138 dmg you filthy casual

[sly oyster]

my kingdom for day serpents

[pliant hatch]

I know.

But a slapping game might be fun for those liking PvP.

[pliant hatch]

Ah yeah, reminds me of hearing the "Bzzzzzzzzt" when building my base at a plains island and thinking since when do we have powertools in this ga........ Oh shit!

[steel mica]

Next thing you see is your character going splat

[light moat]

@shy marlin Any crazy Valheim runs going on?

[shy marlin]

No hit ashlands

That's done tho

I have a no metal no armor no food run going in mountains but i'm prolly dead soon (no way to regain hp ever until mistlands)

[gray sand]

SCALES

I can has a new challenge run for you 😏

[shy marlin]

quit the game and stop doing random bullshit runs?

[light moat]

How often do you sit down and get deep into a nice build?🤔

[shy marlin]

I haven't built anything but warehouse shacks in 1 year now 😔

[gray sand]

Pacifist run.
You're only allowed to kill the bosses.
😏

Which means during Queen, you cannot kill any adds.

😏

[shy marlin]

man i've fought 10 simultaneous queens on vh

that's nothin 😎

[steel mica]

I had an idea but that just straight up masochistic 💀

so no

[wooden tapir]

10 queens sounds crazy

[shy marlin]

It sounds crazy but due to the queen AI bein really passive you're really only ever fighting 5 at a time

[wooden tapir]

does it increase the mob spawns? or no

i think that is what makes it sound crazy to me

[gray sand]

Just bunch 10 queens together and staff of fireball them all

[shy marlin]

There's a limit

[wooden tapir]

imagine 10 queens calling for backup from the swarm

[steel mica]

sneaking challenge

[shy marlin]

I used to know the limit but I think it's ROUGHLY like 8 seekers max or something and 20 broods possible in the citadel

[wooden tapir]

oh i see

thats still annoying to deal with, but managable

i was thinking like 30 seekers just flying at you perma

[shy marlin]

that'd be fun

[visual sparrow]

theres 2 growth tar pits right by my yagluth spawn

wtf do i do

[shy marlin]

Huntsman bow and fire arrows

[steel mica]

can 1 Queen call for backup 4 times or only a set condition if the first backup dies

[shy marlin]

uh if you wait long enough ( there's a cd on the summon attack) i think so? idk if you asked me 2 yrs ago I prolly would know

[light moat]

Man I really wish you’d play Terraria, I’d watch the shit out of that

[steel mica]

defeating the moon lord with a stick

[shy marlin]

Never played

[steel mica]

Its worth the buckos

replayability is nice

Played it many times full vanilla mastermode

only annoying boss is the damn FISH

[steel mica]

Interesting so she can just keep on calling for how many times she wants

[shy marlin]

i think so but like don't quote me, i'd have to mess around and see

[light moat]

Would love to watch Scales attempt Master Legendary ‘For the Worthy’ mode

[steel mica]

The boss between early and mid game 💀

absolute hell.. literally

[mystic quiver]

anyone has a multiplayer game going?

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[steel mica]

I was so slow on typing

you beat me first

[gray sand]

Nothing wrong with doubling up.

[stuck lake]

silver armor finally

[visual sparrow]

aight im about to fight yagluth

[royal flint]

you got this :3

[shy marlin]

gl

[light moat]

I could go on and on about Terraria, but I don’t want to flood the Valheim chat

[steel mica]

Terraria for almost a 1gb game it is packed with content just like valheim

[shy marlin]

Survival games gotta be in the top of entertainment/hr in terms of money spent

[steel mica]

Its rare to see good survival games, or games with a good progression system

[light moat]

Yeah, probably my personal favorite genre to be honest

[visual sparrow]

i beat him

[shy marlin]

huge

[visual sparrow]

i died the second after i killed him my fire resistance ran out i wasnt paying attention

good thing i went in for the kill when i did

i wouldve been so pissed

[sly oyster]

after all these years the abom ai still just runs away constantly

spend 10 minutes finding one just for it to piss off every time

[shy marlin]

ye it's jank lol

[tepid prawn]

it doesn't if it senses it will be able to kill you, imo its just smart, thats my headcanon!

[sly oyster]

im standing here waiting to die

[visual sparrow]

lowkey moder was harder

[sly oyster]

i guess the bog witch bubble is for show as well lmao, theres a war going on in the hut

[visual sparrow]

yagluth you have to be better prepared but moder was harder

[sly oyster]

moder can gib you easier for sure

[foggy glacier]

damn fenring trophies are hard to get. I kinda want to go kill Geirhaffa just to get the raid

[gray sand]

Kill them all.

[foggy glacier]

yeah I will. but now I need the trophy for the trinket as well as the bait.

[neon steppe]

before bait didn't require trophies right?

but instead fish or something

all the info about fishing was very out of date when i tried to google about it without getting too much spoiled

[gray sand]

Yes you needed previous fish. And I preferred that system tbh because it gave you a reason to "fish your way up."

[shy marlin]

[light moat]

Not a fan of the current bait system, would rather just basic materials + bait be used to craft specialty bait 🤔

Though the required trophies aren’t difficult to get thankfully, so eh it’s a non issue really

[neon steppe]

ooh i found it finally!

burial chambers with 3 dead ends 🙂

[tepid prawn]

i found crypts with 0 iron before

[quasi latch]

I've seen Reddit posts of a crypt that's literally just the starting room with 3 alcove dead-ends

And then there's the jackpot crypts with upwards of 120 scrap

[neon steppe]

damn i got 60 scrap from one and thought it was a great one

😭

[gray sand]

I usually get 40-80 per unless empty.

[rotund dust]

YO... Good News, I am CHILD FREE for 4 days, no work, no responsibilities, I am going to start a Hardcore Valheim Run and Binge Game... I'm hyped!

[gray sand]

@shy marlin having beaten it on normal, it is now time for my hard vegetarian run -- or should I just skip to VH?

[rotund dust]

@gray sand Youre a legend for updating the block spreadsheet, love your work as always

[gray sand]

Thank you 💛
It needs one more tiny update for a couple enemies but I haven't felt like it yet 😄

[shy marlin]

ur a heavy armor enjoyer right

[gray sand]

Aye.

[shy marlin]

hard then

if light armor i'd just skip to vh cuz ur prolly just getting one shot anyways on the later biomes

[gray sand]

NO FAITH IN ME?

[shy marlin]

well running 3x stam food right

hard with heavy might mean you can live some stuff

[gray sand]

I mean I could go mage this time 😄

[shy marlin]

what eitr foods can you eat on vegan run

Does royal jelly break the vegan rule

[steel mica]

cant block even draugr on very hard 💀

with 2h food and bronze buckler

[gray sand]

Everything that isn't Seeker Aspic, Ygg Porridge, or Stuffed Shroom.

Ygg Porride allowed if Royal Jelly allowed.
Which I would say... should be? Given it would be in the same classification as Honey, which is allowed.

[shy marlin]

word

i think you can have all of the ashlands eitr foods right

[gray sand]

So just Aspic and Stuffed Shroom are out.

[gray sand]

Yes but can't use Ash or Mist feasts 😭

So it would have to be full glass-cannon mage.

[shy marlin]

glass cannon lmao

(staff of protection)

[gray sand]

I won't use the bubble 😏

BLOOD magic not allowed

[untold sinew]

Rip the skellies

[steel mica]

Vineberries the only one that gives eitr

[shy marlin]

People sleep on the deadraiser man

[untold sinew]

Magecap

[steel mica]

magecap and vineberries

[untold sinew]

There

[steel mica]

only eitr food they could eat

[gray sand]

No?

[untold sinew]

Why

[steel mica]

hold on... let me read it once again

[gray sand]

Seeker Aspic and Stuffed Shroom are out. All other EITR foods allowed.

[untold sinew]

Why?

[steel mica]

yggdrasil proridge?

[gray sand]

Vegetarian run. No meats allowed.

[untold sinew]

understanding

[steel mica]

Royal jelly HMMM

[gray sand]

So you either run SSS the whole game or you run SSS until you switch to magic.

Mead restrictions hurt more than the food ones.

[steel mica]

so basically a scales no hit run but less masochistic

[shy marlin]

3x stamina food is lowkey suboptimal in 2k25

[steel mica]

that 25% lingering sta and tasty meads

[tepid prawn]

its perfect for farming and building though

[steel mica]

ever since I put my resource modifiers to 2x ive been making tasty meads like no tmrw

[shy marlin]

i'd argue feasts for farming and building

but yea ig

[steel mica]

feasts because fall dmg is not fun

but once you get your hands on feather cape

its stamina food all the way

[untold sinew]

Yup

[shy marlin]

salad best food for building

[steel mica]

Dirt uh cheap

[untold sinew]

70 stam

[steel mica]

but nothing beats hildir's clothing

[untold sinew]

I think

[steel mica]

iirc its 70

nope 80

[gray sand]

• The only healing meads allowed are MINOR and lingering.
  And lingering sucks already, but even more when you can't eat any high regen foods.
• Stamina and EITR meads are all allowed.
• Poison Resist and Frost Resist are NOT allowed (entering Mountains is fun)
• Berserkir and Animal Whispers are the only Bog Witch meads allowed. All others contain meat.

[shy marlin]

speed mead cuz of squirrel leg?

[gray sand]

Hamstring, yeah.

[untold sinew]

But isint it meat

[steel mica]

Vegeterian beat valheim any%

[gray sand]

I said fuck it and went with VH 😄

[shy marlin]

[gray sand]

Max death penalty too.

[steel mica]

Are berries fair game or off the table aswell?

[gray sand]

Berries aren't meat, so you're good.

Early game is all berries and honey.

[untold sinew]

Yooooo aaaaa ccwwaayyssyyyyyy

[untold sinew]

Yes

And mushrooms

[gray sand]

Dodging being a proper skill now will make this slightly easier tbh.

[steel mica]

I was gonna say turnip soup but realized it needs boar meat

[shy marlin]

Game just gets easier and easier 📉

[steel mica]

so carrot soup and onion soup later on

[gray sand]

Which is fun because I hate onion soup 😄

[steel mica]

Barley is literally just for bread'

💀

[gray sand]

Barley isn't meat.

[steel mica]

Yes thats what I mean

the other options that uses barley needs some sort of meat

blood pudding

lox meat pie, fish wraps, piquant pie, roasted crust pie

[gray sand]

Yup.

You either go SSS or you go mage.

[untold sinew]

Eggs arent meat

Are they?

[steel mica]

Uhh, according to google no

[untold sinew]

There

[steel mica]

Just not born yet 💀

[gray sand]

I mean, unfertilized chicken embryos...

So it's not muscle fibers, but I would call that meat of sorts.

[untold sinew]

Flour,egg,vineberries

[steel mica]

undeveloped cells

so probably and probably not?

[gray sand]

Eggs are out, yes.

[untold sinew]

Ingredients to roested crust pie

[untold sinew]

But vegeteriens eat eggs

Dont they?

[gray sand]

🤷‍♂️

[shy marlin]

no

[untold sinew]

Oh...ok then

[shy marlin]

sev should just drop the training wheels already and just do no food 😏

[steel mica]

off and pedal you go

[gray sand]

This ruleset is the only way I ever play mage, lol.

[shy marlin]

mage 💤

[gray sand]

Time to kill Eikthyr.

[steel mica]

on level 100 blood magic, whats the eitr usage upon casting the staff of protection?

[gray sand]

@shy marlin holy shit.
With dodging being free now you literally never run out of stamina...

[shy marlin]

game just gets easier

[shy marlin]

i think like 40 idk

[gray sand]

One day there will be a team that doesn't cave to casuals.
But it is not this day.

[shy marlin]

it lowkey has me feelin some type of way because the version of the no food challenge that i enjoyed so much is gone and never will come back

[gray sand]

True. All the free stuff now means the limited stamina pool isn't as much of a factor.

[shy marlin]

oh well 🤙

[gray sand]

GOOD THING YOU DID ALL YOUR CHALLENGE RUNS AND GOT THE ACHIEVEMENTS

Oh wait...

[steel mica]

if only the combat update came only

scales would definitely use the evasion mantle trinket

[shy marlin]

idk

movement speed/stam regen rate one is cool

[steel mica]

Bronze pendant

and nimble anklet

[shy marlin]

i ain't memorizing ts 🥀

[steel mica]

what about resounding shackle?

[shy marlin]

ye that one is my go to once i get it

it stacks really nice with krom

[steel mica]

does melee attacks give off more adrenaline compared to magic attacks?

[shy marlin]

yea

[steel mica]

Ah balanced out

[shy marlin]

melee ur also blocking/dodging stuff more often so u get more from that

The pro of adrenaline on mage though is that you get adrenaline on CAST

so you essentially never lose adrenaline on mage if you play it smart

[steel mica]

because I was gonna say anything that gives instant eitr and most of your options are range

thats pretty busted, but balanced out by lower adrenaline gain

the endgame trinkets are so busted

[shy marlin]

honestly ashlands melee one is garbo

ashlands mage one is goated, mistlands mage one sucks

[steel mica]

the jormundling 😭

100 eitr, and 20+ temporary skill on elemental and blood magic

[shy marlin]

💀

[steel mica]

on a 1 minute timer

[shy marlin]

There's still a pretty much infinite eitr loop build that lurks in the mist with that trinket 🔮

devs thought they patched it out

[steel mica]

and it only costs 75 adrenaline

Ngl before I appreciated the no extra inventory

but the addition of trinkets yeah maybe a little too much

the inventory is getting jam packed with things you regularly use

[shy marlin]

-->

I've said it before a million times, in mistlands it just becomes too much a chore and is unfun 🔮

[steel mica]

my counteract was just use portal, you'll be returning to base quite often, but in the lategame it becomes a problem

you're carrying alot of stuff, portal materials, weapons, tools, potions, utilites (wisp light, the belt etc) and armor aswell

[shy marlin]

yea just drop the armor so you can pick up an extra draugr toenail 😎

#gampley

[steel mica]

The idea of adding backpacks ehhhh its kinda not for me

it kinda ruins the look of the viking like style

[shy marlin]

same

[steel mica]

The cape is what vikings are recognizable for

and it being obstructed by the bag is ugh

[gray sand]

If they solely add worn inventory for armor, trinket, equipment -- +6 slots == good.
If they add backpacks with multiple rows == casual as fuck and plz no.

[steel mica]

maybe pouches?

at the waist

[shy marlin]

watch the deep north boss reward increase inventory 🔮

[steel mica]

I defeated the final forsaken, and my reward is

extra invetory space

😭

[shy marlin]

for 5 min

😏

[steel mica]

NO

that is evil

no extra carrying capacity

[gray sand]

Ok so the one way backpacks would be fine by me.

[steel mica]

They would have to rework the forsaken power ups if that ever happens

[gray sand]

Is if they took up the equipment slot.
So you can backpack OR belt, not both.
Backpark OR wisplight, not both.

[steel mica]

If they're adding backpacks atleast this

aswell

[gray sand]

Do you build Trinkets at the normal workbench?

[shy marlin]

Depends

[gray sand]

Damn. Was hoping they gave the Artisan Table more use.

[shy marlin]

Artisan table is bloat

[gray sand]

When they first added it I was really hoping it was going to enable jewelry crafting because you can find silver necklaces and such.
Something like the trinket system.
But years later, we finally do get a trinket system, but Artisan Table still bloat, as you say.

[steel mica]

Artisan table might be givin more love later in deep north

[gray sand]

You're doing that hope thing.

[steel mica]

I mean you get it in a cold biome so maybe 🙂

[gray sand]

If anything, my expectation for DN is it will make magic even more OP.

[shy marlin]

Can’t wait for the “summon seeker soldier” staff

[gray sand]

@shy marlin Deadraiser that summons Lord Reto. 😛

[steel mica]

Dead riser that summons fader

[upbeat crypt]

Were all tower shields reduced to -10% movement penality?

[steel mica]

The raid just ended and I immedietly got anothe raid

[fluid cove]

lowkey wishing they'd just change it into a workbench upgrade level 6 lmao

[steel mica]

More clutter around the bench 😭

[tacit crystal]

Some vegetarians allow dairies and/or eggs, they're then called lacto-/ovo-vegetarians.

[upbeat crypt]

I thought that is the distinction between vegan and vegetarian and already covered by that

[gray sand]

It's a lot closer to vegan tbh. With honey being allowed because THE BEES ARE HAPPY -- ergo no animal or insect is being taken advantage of.

[tacit crystal]

Vegetarians restrict what they eat, vegans restrict not only what they eat but also items they use daily (nothing made of animal products or tested on animals). They usually don't use honey either.

[north pawn]

Any news when jack-o-lantern arrives?

[gray sand]

Never because that isn't a thing.

[tribal trench]

Doesn't the mighty Turnip have a latern build piece?

[gray sand]

That is a Jack-o-Turnip 😉

[tribal trench]

So true

[steel mica]

I have never feared for my life so badly

when an abomination jumpscared me

[gusty pawn]

hey

when the deep north update come out, will i have too restart a world to be abel to get the new biome ?

[tribal trench]

Very good question! My original save still works and has through many updates....You should still be able to keep your world even after the update, but I am no developer so I can't say 100% with accuracy that this will always be true

[gusty pawn]

oh good thank you

but when the dev add new biome, do you get them in your old save ?

[fluid cove]

from what i know, the part of the world that you haven't explored yet are not generated by the game, so assuming you haven't gotten to the Deep North at all, it'll be fine to continue from that save

[tribal trench]

Yes but Froster is right

[gusty pawn]

i had seen someone said that too

thank you very mutch boys, help a lot

[fluid cove]

[tribal trench]

[fluid cove]

one day i will map out every island in my world

but it is not this day

[long peak]

hahahahahahaha

one day

[near furnace]

@worthy current no. english only chat

[worthy current]

danke

[neon magnet]

I wish there were 90 degree turning and/or T-junction roof ridge pieces

[tiny tiger]

Hmm seems weird that I can’t put corewood in a hearth considering fine wood and corewood have no problem going in the kilns

[foggy glacier]

Oooh, time for pointy hats on my pet rocks!

[fluid cove]

i love burning wood piles for instant 50 coals rather than using the kiln

[foggy glacier]

I don't understand this. How do you get past early game when your fire can burn down your house?

[nocturne shadow]

huh

[merry pebble]

You put the fire further away 😄

[merry pebble]

They play with fire hazards on 🙂

[nocturne shadow]

is that a mod

[foggy glacier]

no, it's a world option.

[merry pebble]

Nope, world modifier

[foggy glacier]

so you have to go outside every time you want to cook?

[nocturne shadow]

ohh shit no way

is it a hard modifier

like how much more difficult it is

[merry pebble]

That or make big enough house that you have space around your fire 🙂

[fluid cove]

simply dont put any fire inside or nearby your house

[foggy glacier]

so high roof and walls/floor further away? I guess you just have dirt around the campfire until you get stone?

[fluid cove]

alternatively, space out some dirt in a dedicated kitchen space, something like 4x4 space with the campfire in the exact middle of it

[foggy glacier]

I thought the radius of sparks was like 8m or something.

[merry pebble]

I would guess so, yeah, i dont play with them 🙂

[fluid cove]

or when you got the stonecutter just use stone floor and walls for the kitchen they're perfectly fireproof

[foggy glacier]

Yeah, that I get.

[foggy glacier]

This is why I don't do it either.

I keep arguing though, that we should be able to build a simple fireplace with a bunch of rocks right from the start.

don't need a stonecutter for that, I've been building them since I was 12.

[fluid cove]

i just like the convenience of burning woodpiles lmao

[foggy glacier]

I've learned to get by without. Honestly I just char all the meat I don't need. Also I'm a klepto in game, so the obliterator gives me lots of coal.

[echo wind]

I mean, you can, right?

[coarse gust]

you can technically use the kiln as your primary fireplace

it just uses a lot of wood

you can also use the stone oven later in the game, which is really nice for aesthetics imo

[foggy glacier]

I mean a fireplace with a chimney that prevents sparks. so you could cook with it but have fire hazards on early game. I threw an image in #screenshots

It'd have to be workbench enabled, but you can cook over it without worrying about fire hazards.

[storm fern]

What's y'all's favorite armor set in valheim?

[smoky quarry]

Padded

[merry pebble]

Tbh i like the harvester tunic and straw hat 😄

[foggy glacier]

LOL

[foggy glacier]

fenris

Fenris set + ratatosk + ask cape and I can outrun Thor.

[tacit crystal]

Ask set 100%.

[shy marlin]

Vile set

[storm fern]

What's the coolest looking set in ur opinion?

[tribal trench]

Skal Gjall!!! I have 5 players, dedicated and dear friends, ready for the North Update we are gearing and loading the ship!!! I just hope there is enough time to get their skills leveled. I am so excited ha!!

[tribal trench]

🔥 Metal Armor is what I use mostly

[storm fern]

fr

[tacit crystal]

Either Ask or Flametal set.

[merry pebble]

For coolest the flametal or carapace for me probably 😄

[neon steppe]

im currently using the bear set and it looks cool imo

can't beat bear headdress or lion, jaguar etc. headdress in games 😛

[shy marlin]

my hot take is root set

[merry pebble]

True true, i was considering that one too

[tiny tiger]

Full silver set

The drake helmet is so good

[light moat]

Silver set is probably my favorite. But the Eitr weave set is crazy good

[tiny tiger]

Finally found haldor, man he’s usually the first dude I find but I found witch and hildir before him this run

The red eitr set is really nice too yeah

[balmy mauve]

Is it possible to kill bosses using the obliterator?

Also is it a decent method?

400 damage seems like a fair bit

[old trout]

There is a guy advertising in other peoples threads in the lfg channel

@silver radish

[tacit crystal]

Please send DM to @dusky pivot to address the issue properly.

[steel mica]

I DO NOT LIKE THESE ABOMINATIONS

This thing is crush me, turn me into a bloody stain if I even try

[silver radish]

Cheers for the mention.

In the future sending a message to Modmail would allow other mods to also see the issue and act if needed.

[old trout]

Aight

[plush citrus]

got to ask i seen alot of invites for Gamer Haven & Community discord in this server is it safe to join?

[humble ether]

I tried that one, wasn't my cup of tea. 🍵 Safe to join.

[plush citrus]

ok cuz i even got them DMing me

[humble ether]

I've had the most luck playing with randoms on the official Valheim server, met some good people here. Play with them almost daily now.

[plush citrus]

yeah im looking for a good server to join

[tiny tiger]

You need about 30 defence 100hp and a axe and shield to take them on without much issue

[nocturne wolf]

Swords are better than 1h axes

[steel mica]

I have no dealing with them

the thing is

[heady parcel]

Eeeek what a sneaky bastard! Just got ambushed by a two-star troll. I was busy with a small swarm of deathsquitos (how can you get four at once even, never seen that before?) when this guy came stomping out of the woods and promptly smashed me on the noggin. Good thing I rock heavy armour and HHS...

[steel mica]

im on very hard combat 💀

pretty much majority of the enemies in game can 1 shot me

[tiny tiger]

Ouch

[steel mica]

trolls, abominations, bosses, etc

even maxed out BF gear I can just barely parry a draugr non starred

[tiny tiger]

True but an axe can also chop wood which means one less slot for a slash damage weapon

[heady parcel]

Imo that's not a challenge, just annoying. But great that the options are there!

[tacit crystal]

Yep, and changing to battleaxe later is easier since you've leveled the axe skill already.

[tiny tiger]

Oo yeah and didn’t they just add 2 more battleaxe variants with call to arms

[silk token]

eh, but battleaxes are awesome because of their stagger, and one does not simply stagger an enemy with a bajillion hp.

[silk token]

i just got jumped by a lone 2 star goblin the second i started fighting yagluth, sometimes the game really seems like its trying to kill you

[silk token]

indeed. bronze axe is better than bronze sword because you’re leveling your axe skill when using it so it’s balanced 😆

[steel mica]

IT IS JUST ME OR ARE THESE ABOMINATIONS LARGER??

I swear they look far larger

[nocturne wolf]

Higher difficulties increase creature size and speed

[steel mica]

That is terrifying

[gray sand]

Bronze Spear 😏

[steel mica]

Night time swamps is actually terrifying, knowing the fact many of the enemies can 1-2 tap you

On very hard

[silk token]

you'll notice i do always have a spear in my hotbar in all of my clips 👍 that's my "bow"

[gray sand]

The first bow I build is Draugr Fang 😂

[silk token]

the first and last i build is finewood just in case of serpents and put it in my boat

tho i do build xbow in mistlands to defend my boat from gjalls

[smoky quarry]

I haul 2 balista with me everywhere by boat. Auto cannon yes

[silk token]

what do you do, jump off your boat and build them on the shore?

[simple sleet]

is there a way to change adrenaline gain?

like increase percentage gained from each action

[smoky quarry]

jump, build bench, build turrets, build gate

adda few missiles in between

[silk token]

hehe, oh so just as standard gear when you make a landing you make portal and 2 turrets XD that's kind of awesome actually

also omfg it FINALLY dropped.... after maxing out my vile chest and legs with 36 ribs worth of viles left over..... FINALLY got the trophy.

[smoky quarry]

great. Now get the wraith one

[foggy glacier]

honestly, the ghost is harder than the wraith.

IMO

[fossil delta]

I have several ghost trophies. Only 1 wraith. I've destroyed far more wraiths. Thats RNG for you.

[foggy glacier]

true.

that reminds me, I don't know what the ghost trophy looks like on an item stand.

[fossil delta]

Small.

Reminds me of glow in the dark ghost masks I wore as a kid.

My wife finally died yesterday. Still her first time going so long without dying, so a great run. Its what happens when you get half a fuling village to chase you. 😄 😄 I try to keep it to about 25% and no more than 2 beserkers.

I think it was the fireballs that did her in, despite having drank the mead.

[heady parcel]

Saw a two-star fuling next to a berzerker and realised just how much bigger than the green guys they are

Nasty, reddish little <bleep>s

[fossil delta]

Its cool that IG differentiates them.

[tiny tiger]

Silver age here we come

not found bonemass yet but just popped a double silver vein for 329 silver (2x resources)

[heady parcel]

I wish starred mobs would drop corresponding trophies

[tiny tiger]

And a wolf trophy acquired during the minin process

[fossil delta]

So you get your cape/cloak too. Always nice to get that ASAP.

[tiny tiger]

Yep it could not be going better rn

[fossil delta]

Of course, with that much silver, you can make your chest piece too.

[tiny tiger]

Possible a pre bonemass frostner too?

or is that only unlockable post bonemass

[foggy glacier]

I prefer the lox cape to the wolf anyway. less silver used .

[gray sand]

NO CAPES

[tiny tiger]

I mean its what 4 silver

[fossil delta]

Whenever you get the flesh from Haldor, which is with iron.

[heady parcel]

I prefer it just because of the looks, never liked the wolf cloak, too bulky

[tiny tiger]

Okay then yeah I can make it

[fossil delta]

I love Fred. I make Fred every play through.

[tiny tiger]

This wasnt meant to be a frostner run but a frostner run is what it is becoming

[fossil delta]

Well, it does make Bonemass that much easier, so...

[tiny tiger]

and the swamps... and the mountains... and the mistlands...

[fossil delta]

Swamps are just so much easier with silver gear, period.

[tiny tiger]

Yeah but especially frost damage

[fossil delta]

Fun to destroy abominations with the silver battle axe. Around 4 hits and BOOM!

[tiny tiger]

I just like how bonemass is essentially an optional boss, even moreso with the forsaken powers rework

[gray sand]

Elder optional too given you can just build a chair to bypass crypt gates..

[tiny tiger]

Oh im surprised that wasnt patched yet

Wonder if theyll let it slide for 1.0

[gray sand]

So the first boss you could say you "need" to kill is Moder to unlock Artisan table 😂

[tiny tiger]

I mean all they have to do is deactivate the teleport command until the swamp key opens the door (although most likely not as simple)

[fossil delta]

Yeah, thats blatant cheat. At least with silver you can make a good guess as to where the nodes are.

[steel mica]

Can confirm now, they're slighty faster

[heady parcel]

Since the game is not competitive, the only one you cheat when you cheat is yourself, so they'll probably let it slide

[gray sand]

And given you can get to Ashlands without the boat rather easily... Moder is the only boss you "need" to kill 😂

[smoky quarry]

You will need all of them at the circle for something for sure

[fossil delta]

Oh? How do you get there without the boat? I hate that boat. Looks fancy and all, but...

[tiny tiger]

maybe itll be a prerequisite to fight final boss to have all the forsaken before them

[smoky quarry]

all boss heads = spawn something. I bet

[tiny tiger]

you just route along the spires that come out the boiling ocean and use wooden platforms

[heady parcel]

And Elder is a pretty fun boss tbh, not overly difficult unless you go for him undergeared and underfed, I can't see why skipping Elder of all things should be a thing.

[gray sand]

Water is lukewarm at best. Longship will make it to the spires. At which point you can hop out and repair whenever you need to.

Sometimes you get lucky and just sail in a straight shot without ever needing repair.

[fossil delta]

You likely will need all of them to get the "Go to Valhalla" scene. Its what Odin ordered.

[tiny tiger]

Ideally you wanna find as close a spot to ashlands as possible, ive been lucky before to be able to see the actual coastline from just before the boiling ocean on a previous playthrough

[gray sand]

They really need to crank water temp by like 500% imo so the boat is needed in most cases.

[tiny tiger]

sure but only for boats

[gray sand]

Some people have seeds where you can just walk to Ashlands 😂

[smoky quarry]

temp could increase as you get closer

[tiny tiger]

is that an artifact from pre ashlands gen?

[tiny tiger]

I always just fight him upclose with atgeir for roots if needed and chop away with the axe

[heady parcel]

I found a tiny little Mistlands islet just on the border of the boiling sea, so I could build a tower with a portal there. Built the boat and promptly entered Ashlands waters, didn't need to sail that thing anywhere else.

[gray sand]

I think it happens more on old seeds but there are a couple modern ones that still allow it iirc.