valheim-chat

[light moat]

Gonna play some Valheim tonight! (It’s been months since I’ve last played)

[tacit crystal]

Same, have been a week (been visiting places). Gotta think if I try to finish my challenge run.

[fervent talon]

Is there a trick to finding the merchant im building up so much valuables?

[tacit crystal]

Sailing around, eventually you will encounter at least one of them.
Their range for possible spawn locations vary and they can be found in first 3 biomes.

[nocturne wolf]

Do you have anything else?

[heady parcel]

Fire

[nocturne wolf]

Mistwalker and Krom are good melee options, but you should also bring bile bombs or demolisher for groups

[heady parcel]

I used lots of bombs and guerrilla hit'n run with the bow

[quasi latch]

It's great for killing ghosts in your first burial chambers

[rocky nebula]

yeah i hated the ghosts when i go t into my first burial chamber

really hard parry timings tanky af and do a ton of damage. i once had 5 in one crypt

[quasi latch]

I parried my first ghost on the first try somehow

[rocky nebula]

daaamn

[shy marlin]

Krom for queen 🤙

[ancient merlin]

Hey guys, someone inspired me to make Lox Meat Pies. Would some be interested in an Food Channel? Where we all can share our love for Valheim inspired cooking??

[quasi latch]

The last person that made them used #fanart

[light moat]

Cooking is an art after all

[blazing cobalt]

Question: Does increasing the drop multiplier also increase the rarity? I am trying to get a drake trophy but I just can't seem to get one.

[shy marlin]

no

[azure yacht]

no

[light moat]

NO

[heady parcel]

Trophy shortage is just RNG - the type of rng that seems to magically know what you need and therefore not provide it. Later, when you do NOT need that trophy, you'll get them all the time. It's magic!

[blazing cobalt]

That happened for me with wolf trophies

[ancient merlin]

That, my friend, is true

[plush umbra]

The office was deserted this morning so I took the afternoon off, back to Valheim. I finally figured out how to sail the raft. Got raided when I reached land of course

[quasi latch]

The eithkyr raid or the forest is moving raid?

[plush umbra]

Oh just a wild pack of Greys of all sizes when I pulled up on shore, of course it was night

[quasi latch]

Sounds wonderful

[agile furnace]

Good afternoon fellow Valheimers

[shy marlin]

yoooooooo

[nocturne wolf]

What weapon types are still missing an emoji? Only fists and staves?

We even have pickaxes

[merry pebble]

Also crossbows are absent 😄

[light moat]

Staff of Embers would be a good one!

[quasi latch]

Atgeir

[shy marlin]

say whaaaattttt

[quasi latch]

That's not an atgeir, that's a dinner fork

[shy marlin]

💢

[quasi latch]

Oh wait, that was only added yesterday, huh?

[shy marlin]

ye

and i'm responsible for making it happen 😎 (my claim to fame)

[quasi latch]

>

[shy marlin]

-20% lmaooooooooo

[quasi latch]

That's what the r key is for

[shy marlin]

r key is objectively bad

swap to hammer, then stow hammer (press button again) and you don't slow down

[quasi latch]

That's what I do, I thought R did the same thing

[shy marlin]

nah they're different

[quasi latch]

My bad

[shy marlin]

r key puts you in an animation that slows u down, swapping to hammer and then pressing the button associated with hammer doesn't slow you down

it's a speedrunning tactic but honestly still very useful in normal play

[quasi latch]

Anyways, you can't cut down a tree with an atgeir, can you?

[shy marlin]

Beech saplings (the little small trees in meadows)

It's funny that battleaxes best use case is being a tree cutter

[quasi latch]

+1 inventory slot, ha

[quasi latch]

Crossbow

[fossil fossil]

are we alllowed to discuss mod here?

[nocturne wolf]

#mods-discussion

[fossil fossil]

ty g

[plush umbra]

Crraaap I forgot my portal tag, now I have to cross the dang lake again😩 😆

[quasi latch]

That's terrible! I wish there was a system to mark your portal tag on the map so you'd never forget it.
||dw I've been guilty of that too||

[plush umbra]

The greys wrecked my raft?? THE GREYS WRECKED MY RAFT!🤯😭

[steel mica]

Curious

to hear, why did many people not like the mistlands?

Its a nice biome and a change of pace

[shy marlin]

Some people don't enjoy impaired vision

And they also struggle with the terrain

[signal wasp]

can i join to play?

[steel mica]

I already gotten used to the mist

[shy marlin]

ye i'm just sayin in general why some people don't like it

[steel mica]

Bring proper gear, food, and stamina mead while you're at it

[shy marlin]

preachin to the choir

[steel mica]

Dont get me wrong its sometimes annoying trying to climb but nothing alittle eithyr ability cant help

Only thing I hate about the mistlands is

I dont have 450 carrying capacity

🥺

[shy marlin]

honestly i don't even bother with the wisp light anymore

[steel mica]

Just sound and map

[shy marlin]

nah you can actually see quite a lot without the wisp

[steel mica]

The idea of the mistlands terrain is to force you to climb up high and scout out POIs

[last meteor]

My friend tells me that I can use console commands if I hit F5, but the window doesn't come up for me (though I can see what it looks like on his stream). Any idea why?

[wintry valve]

you have to enable it in the launch options, in steam

[wintry valve]

You will not like the answer

[vocal rivet]

Why would you?

[quartz prawn]

yo guys, favorite valheim boss?

[shy marlin]

Queen

[untold knoll]

mistland

[quartz prawn]

greyling titan better lowk

[untold knoll]

when i first did the queen, I did it solo on a trio scaling. one of my friends DCed. and they had died and jus tpicked up their stuff so they lost everything. and the others pc simply wouldnt run the queen lair. and I just ended up soloing her for over an hour.

but boy did I have fun

[quartz prawn]

i haven’t fought it yet

[steel mica]

Big indicator if a mountain has silver is the presence of golems or drakes

[vocal rivet]

Or obsidian.

[merry pebble]

You mean Elder?

[vocal rivet]

No, I think they're trolling. It's on Reddit too.

[merry pebble]

Yeah... I see that they are mentioning it in more channels for some reason....

[errant knoll]

Something I think would be funny, speaking of Elder.

His forsaken power just says "better wood cutting" or something like that.

...imagine if while the forsaken power was active you had a slash damage buff specifically against tree-like enemies, such as the grey dwarves or the abomination?

[vocal rivet]

Honestly makes sense.

[tacit crystal]

That would be a buff for battleaxes too.

[near widget]

you cant really tell where the dungeons are from the tops tho

i find that ground level exploring and looking for seekers is a better way to find mines

[tacit crystal]

Certain cliff formation tells about one type of entrance, when you know it you can find it easier.

[near widget]

could you send me a link or an image that shows this?

kinda struggling rn

[tacit crystal]

I could, but later.

[steel mica]

Forgot I cant use hashtags to make text bigger

🥺

I instantly remembered that one time I used it

[tacit crystal]

Oh, #make #text #bigger, right?

[steel mica]

space between the # and text

[tacit crystal]

Reminds me of early Instagram days btw...

[steel mica]

10min mute :D

[tacit crystal]

Hmm, like this?

[nocturne wolf]

No, not like that. If you did it right, you would be muted too.

[merry pebble]

I mean... There Is no need to make text bigger really. 😄

[tacit crystal]

Right, that just thickens.

[steel mica]

that uses ***

[tacit crystal]

No, 2 of those per side.

[steel mica]

I know

[quartz prawn]

you must not be in the know

[brave apex]

is it worth improving sneak

[wary coral]

Anyone else think the map in Valheim could be a little smaller? like lets say 25% - 35% smaller and it would still be fun to explore but at least the distances wouldnt be this crazy big

im only saying this because beside hildirs quests there isnt really anything else to pursue

maybe if the game had like 4 - 5 more biomes, somne of them a bit more rarer there would be an incentive

[keen trench]

not really, i personally like the map size, it could be reasonable to say that "you don't need a good chunk of it" but actually there's some non renewable resources (or renewable in a minimal quantity) that makes feel the unexplored chunks a "safe stock" of anything (just to mention one thing), ofc if one likes to play 100% funcional-only building and "speedrunning" progress that could be seen as useless/annoying, but i like it that way

[steel mica]

Another upside is a larger map = more room for possible future content

I like how it is now

besides you dont really get to explore much of it, maybe in the future

[keen trench]

uhm yeh, but it has been made quite clear (by official sources), that after DN there won't be any further content expansion, sure thing if they'll had some smaller content to old biomes on the way to combat-update/DN/1.0 (wich is way more likely), unexplore areas will make old seeds still viable to be able to enjoy that (<--- small example)

[steel mica]

tiny bits here and there lovely

Already by itself Valheim is huge

[tacit crystal]

Yeah they slightly hinted that after 1.0 smaller updates could be possible, but not major like biome updates.

[brave apex]

so is sneak worth improving

[keen trench]

yup, most likely tech/performance patching, no content

[steel mica]

If you wanna get up close and personal, like really really face close, your choice

[wary coral]

idk why your example of any other plastyle involves a borderline radical approach to palying? i never play in such a manner, to speedrun or to be 100% functional or anything similar. I play at a normal pace i explore i find a new biome i do the resource gathering the smelting the upgrading, everything and then if i happen to find the boss i kill him and move on. And if you could elaborate on the non renewable resources? what exactly do you mean by that? like the bell shard in the ashlands or?

[wary coral]

well, thats kind of my point, more biomes, rarer biomes for instance, would be just one way to tackle this issue

You could also argue that these finite resources can be easily rediscovered and regathered by simply generating a new world and playing on that one

[steel mica]

Maybe an april fools here and there

[tacit crystal]

Yeah that was the case before (bug fixes/performance improvements), but recently there have been some different message about that and also in QA.

[keen trench]

no one said you personally play like that, just if i would choose to do a run like that probably will find the map annoyingly huge (maybe), (so to quote myself) i personally like the map size for any other approach to game, including the one you're describing, wich happens to be quite similar to mine

[steel mica]

FINAL AFTER HOURS AND HOURS OF SEARCHING I FINALLY HAVE EVERYTHING

😭

Finding black cores is like finding tooth picks

[shy marlin]

[steel mica]

Seriously it took me like 4 days to get everything for the eitr refinery and galdr table

[tacit crystal]

Until you need more.

[steel mica]

Dont tell me the himminafl takes black core aswell

[hard fox]

Can anyone provide me a starter guide for valheim
I am very new in this game in fact started playing today 😅

[shy marlin]

Listen to bird

[hard fox]

Yeah done some basics
The thing is I don't quite understand the building part is any guide available related to that

[wary coral]

i know you didnt mean me personally, i simply used myself as an example, after all i can only speak for myself until maybe someone else with the same mentality comments. I mean the devs 100% wotn change this now anyway, so late into development but maybe in the future it would be cool to see modders decrease the size (or even better if people come up with new biome ideas that would be fking siiiick)

[steel mica]

Welcome to valheim, be ready to die alot and most importantly, have fun :D

[hard fox]

Like should i make a home first or just explore and thrive
There seeme to have many opportunities

[hard fox]

Haha thanks

[steel mica]

Priority is just making a shack for safety and for storage

[hard fox]

Kk got it
Thanks man I was thinking should I make a home first like I heard there is decay during harsh weather conditions etc etc not sure though

[brave apex]

do enemies have a headshot thing

[keen trench]

yup just sharing opinions as well, not really into mods, but i heard some about world size already exist (no knowledge of details), ofc https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202934289898151966 for further investigation

[steel mica]

After that go explore freely and go back and dump your goodies at your base and continue on

[hard fox]

And is there any solution to sudden render lags like any file changes or mods
I have a decent hardware and gets almost 100 fps in general max settings but sometimes it just suddenly drop to 10 during fights

[steel mica]

Only specific enemies

That being trolls at the head

[hard fox]

Got it
Haha similar to Outwatds I see

[brave apex]

ah alr

[tacit crystal]

No it doesn't.

[steel mica]

Thank Odin christ

[brave apex]

anything i can do to like delete materials i dont need

[steel mica]

Oblitirator

my spelling

😭

[keen trench]

wether you carry them outside your base structures' range (40ish meters outside your base would be more than sufficient), drop them on the ground and let them despawn, or if you already reached iron age and found the first trader ||you can build the Obliterator, it will destroy materials you put in it and give you some coal||

[steel mica]

The only reason why I went to the mistlands was to get the feather cape

but it took so long

and I just went "screw it" and get everything

[keen trench]

yeh by the time i was able to craft the feather cape i was half way in to "get everything" with materials i got in the meantime

[steel mica]

I wanted the feather cape because in the near future im gonna remake my main base

I am literally doing everything I can to stall for DN

[keen trench]

"ok roof finished, let's jump off this building"
"uh oh, i'm not playing my main charact.. "

[steel mica]

Lucky you have 101 hp

But then you fall off a 4 meter height and die

[keen trench]

eheh, usually 25 when i get lost in extensive building

[steel mica]

Best thing about endgame bases is that everything is well organized and well stocked

You got everything in one area

and that is what I plan to do

@keen trench question mistland related

if I mine out the bottom of petrified bone will it all crumble down if I break a piece

kinda of like what we do to silver in the mountain biome

[tacit crystal]

It will, if you have dug enough around and below.

Soft tissue too.

[keen trench]

yeh, if you sucessfully pop the entirety of Jotun's skull the intact brain will float in mid-air until you hit it >>> hence the speculation-theory: Gjalls are just colonies of ticks that inhabitated a Jotun brain and took off (notice that lone ticks always spawn near the giant skulls)

[steel mica]

For how cheap misthare supreme is

Its the best and cheapest health food you can get in the mistlands, not to mention how easy it is to get all ingredients

Chicken is annoying to farm

[keen trench]

also the best regardless of cost, it's a tiny bit better than honey chicken and meat platter (wich have tied stats iirc)

just had some hard time farming enough hare before staff of embers, but after that zero problems

[steel mica]

misthare is +5 more hp and a tiny bit more stamina

[steel mica]

arbalest is pretty good

[tacit crystal]

Nowadays I save misthare supremes for the Mistlands feast. Same for yggdrasil porridge.

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, but 5min less duration.

[keen trench]

oh right, also one of my fav weapons overall, i just got to the staff before trying out the crossbow in my first Mistlands sessions

[steel mica]

Worth it considering that chickens produce eggs for another good stamina food

[tacit crystal]

Salad is super cheap. I usually skip the omelette.

[steel mica]

I like having both for maximum stamina

I always eat 1 meat and 2 stamina food

[keen trench]

right, omelette is fully house-farmable, still 3 eggs is a lot and salad is way cheaper for the tiny stamina it gives less

[steel mica]

Only time I eat 2 meat is when I die and need to get my stuff back

[tacit crystal]

I'd rather fish anglers than farm eggs tbh.

[steel mica]

My viking is not ill equip to fish them

[tacit crystal]

Although fishing isn't that hard when you sit on Karve. You can throw your bait, then sit and reel to 1-2m for very minimal reeling when it catches.

[steel mica]

or casually wait for the cod to jump onto your boat while your sailing

[keen trench]

since i "discovered" (late!) that you can steer the boat around with the bait cast so the fish will hook without even timing-hitting rmb fishing became my fav activity

[errant knoll]

For hunting the hares?

I agree that it's better than the normal bow for that but my problem is I have a serious case of skill issue with regards to being able to quickly aim at a target that's running away lol.

Staff of embers is just so much easier to use.

[keen trench]

eheh, yep AoE helps bad aiming a lot for me as well

[steel mica]

Not to mention the crosshair is not align to where your crosshair is actually at

I gotten better the more I used the arbalest so its not a big problem for me but for some yeah its a real struggle

[errant knoll]

Yeah, my aim is absolutely terrible. I didn't use a bow for killing the deer early in the game that's for sure! Sneak attacks + very rarely running and chasing (but only if there was nowhere for them to go).

[errant knoll]

I built it anyway of course because Gjall exist and my regular bow skill inevitably sucked due to underuse lol

[steel mica]

The arbalest is basically a sniper

[keen trench]

it would be realistic, but too bad for me, if they add a chance to turn hare drops in to coal if you hunt them with a huge fireball, so fun if it would drop cooked hare meat (but bad for recipes)

jokes apart once i tried the arbalest, and got confident with battle timing / reload mechanic it became my favourite, that and a demolisher as backup and the entire Mistlands are no danger anymore

[tacit crystal]

Crossbow and spear combo is nice against flying mobs.

[keen trench]

uhm interesting never tried that

[errant knoll]

Throwing a spear in the Mistlands?

I'd lose it lol.

[steel mica]

I used fang spear against drakes

saved up a ton of arrows

[keen trench]

I saved tons of drakes and lost lots of spears

[steel mica]

Worked like a charm

[tacit crystal]

If you're below Gjall you can hit its underpart with spear throws which is their weak point.

[errant knoll]

I don't wanna get close to them 🤣 they're nasty.

[tacit crystal]

But close enough they can't target you.

[errant knoll]

This has not been my experience.

I've seen people saying before that if you're underneath they can't target you, but my burning butt after trying said otherwise lol

[tacit crystal]

Underneath and more on the backside.

But yeah, initiative shot with crossbow, possibly more shots if they stay far enough, then switching to spear when they get close.

[steel mica]

I have now disregarded my base's aesthatics and just put the eitr refiner down under my house

I WANT THE FEATHER CAPE NOW

[plush umbra]

Fought the tree elder guy last night. I like how the whole area looks like a war zone now😆

[noble marsh]

What's your favourite biome for main base location and why?

I am interested to hear different perspectives

[shy marlin]

Plains base bordering mistlands is probably the best mechanically

[noble marsh]

For what reason?

[shy marlin]

Farming

And usually plains near mistlands will have swamp/mountains nearby

But this is just looking at game mechanics, aesthetics are different, imo meadows is very cozy

[hallow spoke]

man Ive been traveling for days and I cannot find the Queen, or the tablet that shows her location

[tacit crystal]

They are found inside Infested mines.

[steel mica]

Funny how I found my queen vegvisir on my 2nd IM but couldn't find enough black cores to craft all the new work stations

RNGods at ther finest

[tacit crystal]

It's always RNG.

[steel mica]

I want that sweet sweet eitr weave set

[agile temple]

Found it in my first

In the one that had 2 black cores and literally nothing else

[minor loom]

yo

[quasi latch]

mama

[tiny tiger]

So

[charred gale]

beautiful

[noble marsh]

but

[agile temple]

Her

[quasi latch]

South. Make sure you have the ship

[thorny panther]

Swamp and Mistlands are objectively the best for off-the-ground bases due to having immortal objects to anchor to

Southern most area of the world but if you go there early, you'll almost always die. The Mistlands boss unlocks a sequence of items. One of them is mandatory for getting to Ashlands (without utilizing silly exploits).

The newest ship feels like it was made for 10-20 players but it's also the only one that can make the journey

I will say to bring Portal supplies and a full stack of 50 Wood. Getting a safe place for a Portal is hard and dying there is VERY punishing.

I never leave home without an Atgeir esp if I'm going somewhere alone. The aoe cc is too valuable.

[quasi latch]

Same speed, less maneuverability, doesn't take damage from Ashlands nopesauce ocean

[errant knoll]

Had a really close call, I found my first 2 star asksvin but the area I found it in was so messy and crowded with enemies it actually almost died to friendly fire from enemies as I killed them to defend myself.

It's in a hole inside a charred fortress now, but daytime started before I could begin taming so I gotta just sit here and wait for about 20 minutes now lol

It SHOULD be safe here but the asksvin is uncomfortably low on hp.

[thorny panther]

Dig more holes nearby and use the harpoon to drag enemies into those holes

[quasi latch]

If only we had splash and lingering meads

[thorny panther]

The spawn limit should cap out at some point and then you just have to make sure they don't climb on top of each other

[errant knoll]

I shouldn't NEED to since the Charred fortress is a spawn point dead zone.

But also... I can't leave. I don't have my harpoon lol

If I leave he will despawn

[thorny panther]

Yeah that part sucks

Do you have a hoe?

Could raise up a dirt wall

[errant knoll]

I do, and he is securely unable to leave

[iron berry]

[errant knoll]

Tbh i tamed a 0 star asksvin before in the exact same spot and not a single enemy spawned here

The 2 star is very far away from where he spawned

[thorny panther]

Just keep your health up then

You dying is prob a higher risk than the Asksvin dying

[errant knoll]

The asksvin is on a literal slither of health lol

Anything that is likely to kill me will kill it too if it gets hit

[thorny panther]

Maybe build a roof over the hole it's in?

Reinforce it as much as possible

[errant knoll]

I could build a grausten roof I guess.

[thorny panther]

Until it can eat something

[errant knoll]

Put it this way I got caught between a valkyrie and a morgen while kiting this asksvin back and it was like it had a death wish lol. It got hit by basically everything lol

I've also broke my workbench currently, only 2 base structures - no idea what raids are possible now i beat fader, but I'm not risking anything lol

[fiery jacinth]

hello, fellow vikings!

[valid python]

Curious, did someone else write the Raven hints starting at Mistlands? Hugin seems a lot more tongue and cheek as soon as you hit Mistlands. suddenly less 'wise animal guide' and more 'Friendly but somewhat annoyed babysitter'

[undone forum]

No idea but I kinda like it, I always thought that he got tired with us getting things wrong and wanted to stop helping us but thats litterally his job so he can't stop and is just annoyed

[keen trench]

you mean "read" right? yeh, in one line Hugin actually says he's done "babysitting" you, and Mistlands is the time first Munin's hints start, for some lore reasons Odin's ravens seem to take turns in giving the player advice, don't know exactly way but i like it

looking at the wiki, Munin actually has a lot of unused lines, in some of them he's way less flattering than his brother, i mean Hugin is just "bored", Munin lets you know ||he would eat your eye when you die||

[plush umbra]

-# pretty sure hugin didn't even have any visibly mean lines until the mistlands update, felt like kind of a personality shift to me :c

-# i just realized that's literally how this topic started

[light moat]

Hugin turns into an ass hat for sure

[shy marlin]

Haldor also turned mean for a bit

But then he got reverted to being nice

[keen trench]

Haldor? did he have different dialogue lines in old versions? if so i missed them, damn... the only thing that's mean now is egg prices

Hildir mocks you for your fashion taste, but that's obviously a marketing strategy (well she does it when you show up with her clothes on as well, but whatever )

[errant knoll]

Nice! Just need to secure myself some 2 star eggs now

[tacit crystal]

He had at some point more mean words, but not anymore.

[keen trench]

ah, damn i missed that, unlike Munin, there's no list of unused/cancelled lines on wiki

probably would have preferred if they kept those (like the red beard, but that's ok)

[vocal rivet]

Are there any?

[keen trench]

nope, i mean it's more than due to have Hugin/Munin's, not criticizing the wiki, i just would like to know what i missed from old versions in some way

[vocal rivet]

They'll be in the Wiki if they existed.

[shy marlin]

I don't see haldors old lines 🤔

[keen trench]

uhm, but random dialogue lines of Haldor are there, is there a difference in how they appear in game files?

[vocal rivet]

That's what I'm saying. I don't know of any that aren't there.

[shy marlin]

I wanna say sometime during / after hildirs quest, haldor used to be a lot meaner

I know this to be true, but i'm unsure of the time phrame

[keen trench]

oh, damn, i'm dumb

[vocal rivet]

Unlikely.

[keen trench]

i looked for those in the past, it's just a small text to click and i didn't notice it

[shy marlin]

Ah, haldor turned mean 13/3/2023

and then turned nice sometime in august of that same year

[keen trench]

"Try not to wander too far. I want your things when you get killed." doesn't sound very nice eheh

there are a couple mean ones i never saw (one is the above), but i also missed some Hildir ones so can't tell 100% wich were cancelled, very nice to have them all anyway

[keen trench]

i could only find "Haldor’s lines are now translated correctly" in version history on that date, was it just a translation matter?

[shy marlin]

It wasn't in the patch notes

idk

[static harbor]

Do i have to defeat the elder to achive better boats??

[nocturne wolf]

You don't need to but it's the best way. You are able to make a Karve before defeating the elder.

[static harbor]

how do i unlock the karve?

[nocturne wolf]

What you're most likely missing is fine wood, dropped by birch and oak trees. You can craft a bronze axe to chop them.

It also needs bronze nails

[vocal rivet]

My money is on nails.

[static harbor]

ok i will try getting it as soon as possible

[fossil latch]

hi i need people to stard a server

[vocal rivet]

You can place an ad in #1024264966712340510

[fossil latch]

ok thanks

[obsidian pasture]

@vocal rivet when is deep north dropping? i know you have the inside scoop

[compact basin]

🤨

😂

[vocal rivet]

Why would I have the inside scoop?

[compact basin]

goomba

[obsidian pasture]

@compact basin mentioned to me that you had the date, my mistake

[vocal rivet]

No-one has the date. Not even for the combat update.

[compact basin]

who r u tanny

[steel mica]

[plush umbra]

They just could have used iron gates in the buried crypts but nooooo💀

[vocal rivet]

What's the problem now?

[vocal rivet]

What?

[plush umbra]

Oh nothing really. Using the pickaxe to go from room to room is crazy😂

[wintry valve]

I mean thats hot you get iron scraps

[gray cairn]

Anyone feels like discord is insanely hostile? I'm very casually online and almost no server is welcoming or has any patience.

[near widget]

the world is a hostile place

its like ashlands

unpleasant to be in, filled with people who will make your life harder.

[gray cairn]

Bah, I feel ppl irl are much more welcoming and I've barely felt hostility aside from your usual midnight crackhead.

[gray cairn]

I find the world quite pleasant actually. And I try to focus on the pekple who bring me up, while avoiding those who bring me down 🙂

[scenic sundial]

I just 1 shot 5 Ticks at once with my Demolisher

[steel mica]

It is a mistland tier weapon

[scenic sundial]

Yes

its my favorite weapon in the whole game

[steel mica]

Staff of Embers

goated weapon

[errant knoll]

Cleared out several chests worth of Grausten.

...It really doesn't carry as far as you'd think lol.

I'm not even done with the expansion to my build since it's taking an age and god knows how many stacks of Grausten I burnt through.

[honest burrow]

I lost my goddamn karve 😠

FOund my Karve 🙂

[charred gale]

Isnt grausten really fragile

[steel mica]

Mark it on your map where you parked it

[honest burrow]

yeah should have. Granted, it was 1am and I was tilted sailing back to my corpse

[steel mica]

Pain

[vast lily]

Off all the new things for the next combat change update, what weapons are you the most exited when they get rebalanced/tweaked?

Personally going with tower shields and two handed axes.

[pliant hatch]

I'll be exited the moment I know what is tweaked. Not beforehand. And afaik we don't know if weapons and shields are being tweaked and if so, which ones.

And yes, perhaps I'm a SACOF (Sarcastic and Cynic old fart), but I've seen it happen too often here and with other games,
People are exited and all hyped about an update, then experience the update and are disapointed because the update didn't meet their expectations. Which were basically based upon their assumptions, not by what the devs told them.

I've seen it happen here with the H&H, the Mistlands and the Ashlands updates. So it wouldn't surprise me if it happens with a combat update too.

[vast lily]

I disagree, h&h, mistlands and ashlands are pretty good updates and they count as major updates.

Combat update usually counts as minor update which is like hildirs, bog witch and frost cave update and there pretty small yet welcome addition.

[pliant hatch]

You don't get the point.

People are hyped about an update because of their own speculations, then are disappointed because the update didn't meet the speculations they hyped themselves.

And then blame the devs for delivering a "lame" update, because it didn't meet the expectations the players have hyped themselves.

The only thing I expect from the combat update is a change in combat.

What change it'll be I'll see when it drops and I'll judge things at that point.

Also meaning I'm not going to be hyped about the update, as I have no idea what will happen.

That way I won't be disappointed with the update, as I don't have any expectations.

[merry pebble]

The only 2 things we know will happen in the combat update are tweaks to ||sloped combat|| and new ||armor|| 🙂 nothing more, nothing less.

[vast lily]

Eh most players slowly adopt the changes as while it can be disappointing to expect, theres usually things like environmental hazards, enemy balance and what the devs intended to progress. Plus new things like magic in mistlands or infusions and siege engines that bring new to the table which could get good later.

Right now I'm focusing on what weapons are the most expected to get changes.

Can we agree that one handed swords, clubs, hammers, bows and crossbows are very balanced in this game that don't need changes?

[pliant hatch]

Which means you're hyping yourself on expectations while we don't even know if weapons will be tweaked and if so, which ones.

Whichis exactly what I've been trying to explain twice now.

[merry pebble]

Or in which update they would be hypotheticaly tweaked 🙂

[steel mica]

Another reason why I am stalling, as I am patiently waiting for it to come out and to give it a go, I am not going to the ashlands till I give my main bases a redesign, gives me a reason to comeback knowing I still have an objective to finish the game, whilst doingmy base redesign as a big distraction

If I went straight to ashlands and kill the boss there I would have feel finished and quit the game

[tacit crystal]

I understand the hype but at least the pessimist won't get disappointed.

[steel mica]

The community when no update every 0.1 second:

[vast lily]

I feel like tower shields, fist and two handed axes are the most requested of the bunch to get changes. Two weapons suffer from speed penalty while the other two suffer from availability. The teased fist weapon at least confirms there's gonna be new weapon coming up since flesh rippers are kinda bellow average when it comes to usage.

I'm also not certain if they add more but I've heard before or after deep north update would add all the weapons available so every weapons get to shine.

[nocturne wolf]

Flesh ripper secondary backstab is the highest possible stagger you can deal in one hit, I would love to see what a stronger fist weapon is capable of
Staggering lord reto maybe??

[steel mica]

Lord reto?

[tacit crystal]

That could be one thing to tweak too.

[nocturne wolf]

Why?

[tacit crystal]

Dunno, if devs decide.

Although it's funny how kicking is very valid way to keep some bigger mobs staggered when other options are not as effective.

[vast lily]

What do people's current opinions are about axes, spears, two handed swords and knives? I feel like there mid of the two listed.

[nocturne wolf]

I think one handed axes could have a stronger secondary attack

[tacit crystal]

2 handed swords shouldn't have MTP and 1 handed should.

Spears could have little more range IMO.

[nocturne wolf]

And pickaxes need a combat skill and secondary attack

[tacit crystal]

Isn't the skill "pickaxes" tho?

[steel mica]

Spears I think should have another attack animations instead of one from the top poke where its on your side instead of from top

[nocturne wolf]

I forgot, that does increase their pierce damage

It doesn’t increase when hitting enemies though

[tacit crystal]

I think they're fine, they fast tho.

[vast lily]

All of the mid tiers need minor buffs. Spears need more range or a rework for their attack, one handed axes need slightly more damage, krom more dps and knifes? Eh knifes are kinda good at stealth and fast attack rate but somehow feels niche.

[nocturne wolf]

What’s wrong with the spear attack?

[tacit crystal]

Battleaxes should have less movement speed penalty, -20% is too much, meanwhile atgeirs and 2h swords have -5%.
All of those could have -10% instead.

[steel mica]

yeah I notice the krom is literally just made entirely out of metal but why is the battleaxe so muh heavier

[vast lily]

Secondary is a strong melee attack but the primary one is small. Spears are weapons associated with reach.

[nocturne wolf]

If you want reach use a polearm

[vast lily]

Spears are kinda balanced between melee and ranged one and I've heard some players could master the spear pretty well. It's primary is pretty small range though but the weapon isn't entirely bad.

Spears and axes though do become really good in 2 late game biomes.

[tacit crystal]

One thing with spears is that small range, true. Bit odd that weapon that long has only 0.1 meters more range than knives and 0.5m less than swords/clubs.
And that the latest spear model is noticeably longer than other spears, even longer than any polearms, and it still has that small range.

[steel mica]

question does the ashlands add a new crafting station

[tacit crystal]

No, but upgrades to the latest new ones.

[steel mica]

Gotcha bc im gonna start laying out my main base

[vast lily]

Opinions about the two handed knifes? Is skoll and Hati good even with lower back stab bonus?

[tacit crystal]

Umm it still has the 6x backstab multiplier.

[vast lily]

If ashlands had knives, jade knife would be the most OP broken weapon in the game outside thundering berserker.

[tacit crystal]

Imagine iolite or jade atgeir.

[vocal rivet]

Probably why we don't.

[tacit crystal]

Yep. Would be quite broken to activate many lightning or rooting effects in one swipe at the same time.

Himminafl tho keeps being relevant till the end.

[vast lily]

Atgeirs are the most OP weapons in the game that I feel needs a nerf. Secondary attack has wide AOE with insane 6x stagger. You can beat most biomes with just max bronze/iron atgeir for a reason.

They suffer a bit in ashlands due to knockback but you can still use it on edges or multiplayer. Plus mobs come in numbers

[steel mica]

And easily accessible after eikthyr

[vast lily]

Maybe stagger should get nerfed from 6x to 5x or 4x since that's almost similar level to two handed axes secondary attack.

[rotund bay]

any news when they'll gonna drop the patch update?

[steel mica]

The only biomes that dont introduce atgeirs is mountains and ashlands correct?

[vast lily]

Yes but there still insanely good.

[steel mica]

The himminafl is still very op but

Im still maining the damn krom

its too cool to not use it

[rotund bay]

I wonder if they'll ever work on balancing for these ones
battleaxes really do suffer later on by having that knockback makes their comboe miss making it a waste
plus the previously mentioned movement speed penalty

on my next new world, maybe I should start maining swords.
I've recently tried full bow and dagger mix and it was as fun as spear and mace gaming, but the arrow grind was real, had to pelt bonemass for like an hour to get decent levels

[tacit crystal]

The knockback is not that much the problem IMO. But some of my thoughts of them here when comparing to 2h swords: #suggestion-discussion message

[rotund bay]

I very much agree with the point of giving battleaxes more power since they're slower
but really, would wish they dialed the knockback on the first 2 attacks so I stop missing the last hit

[quasi latch]

I don't have a problem of missing the last hit, interesting

[steel mica]

I rarely hit the 3rd combo of he battle axes on an enemy, mainly I stagger them with the secondary attack and then slash away

Because of how slow the weapon is

maybe make the battleaxes good at chopping trees?

[nocturne wolf]

The primary attack has good stagger so sometimes you can stagger the enemy by just hitting them first

[vast lily]

Though battle axes are pretty good in closed corridors like sealed towers and dungeons. Their combo can clear groups.

Their secondary attack is also underrated as they stun a single foe and it's incredibly quick.

[quasi latch]

I use the secondary attack to stagger enemies and line them up in a group to get all slashed together

[vast lily]

But battle axes have also many things that hinder them for being good. Mainly the movement speed being #1 problem.

[quasi latch]

Eh, you can swap off of it to counteract that

[rotund bay]

I had a thought about giving two handed hammers actual moveset and have their aoe smash as secondary instead of a swap and smash aoe utility, but I got backlash here saying the weapon roles are good as they are.
which kinda makes me sad

[quasi latch]

Maybe if atgeir didn't stagger everything with its secondary attack, sledges could actually have a unique role

[nocturne wolf]

Their primary attack should stay what it is with an even slower and heavier secondary

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, the higher stagger multiplier makes sure one can stagger them regular mobs easier: #memes-and-clips message

[steel mica]

The slow animation swing sometimes gets me hit first before im able to stagger them, ahem ahem my mountain experience with wolves

[nocturne wolf]

Jumping can help to keep you out of the attack trigger during the animation

[rotund bay]

ngl the battleaxes feels like just an experimental gimick rn given we only had 2 versions of them and then none later on

well same goes for fist weapons

[vast lily]

Hammers are good as they are. There not insane but are pretty much cheese weapons in all dungeons. You can hit enemies through walls which is insanely broken.

[steel mica]

Crystal battleaxe
and
Iron battle axe

[quasi latch]

Flesh rippers sorta stay relevant due to the stagger on the secondary attack though

[rotund bay]

they're definitely good, yes especially in those situations
but it could also be improved

[vast lily]

Maybe secondary being similar to battle axe except instead of high stagger, it's huge knockback.

[steel mica]

I shouldn't have read your about me 😭

rickrolled in 2025

[rotund bay]

actually that attack sorta throws me off
sure it works great but I'd prefer a lunge ngl
they're claws, lemme go berserk and slash on things than punch and kick

[tacit crystal]

Nah, I'd like to go berserk with a battleaxe and kill 40 strong natives while holding a bridge against them.

Battle of Stamford bridge reference.

[steel mica]

Fire damage is no joke

4 ticks of fire damage and im dead with my feather cape

[vast lily]

BTW has anyone used tower shields before? I've only know there good for multiplayer but are not as good on single player. The shield balancing isn't very great with the tower shields.

[tacit crystal]

In my early hours and with my group in early hours I used them. Bone shield was good in burial chambers.

But that's almost 4 years ago.

[vast lily]

The tower shield has good passive block and knockback is great against groups of mobs, but isn't very good when you're trying to melee due to knockback and movement also makes you a sitting duck especially if you have heavy armor.

[steel mica]

The only times ive touched the tower shields is when I literally just started playing valheim

the wooden tower shield

when I knew that bucklers existed, I just disregarded the tower shield because from playing ultrakill, parrying is good

[quasi latch]

Tower shields should have more blocking power than bucklers, since they can't stagger enemies

[steel mica]

The tower shields has uses particularly in the plains and mistlands biome since both of those have really strong enemies which one can be a tank for the other vikings

[vast lily]

Round shield and bucklers are very good especially since it doesn't take long to master parrying, and when you've mastered it, there's zero reason to use tower shields.

Plus not only does parry grants extra damage but also extra blocking which has more blocking power than tower shields passive block. It's just bad. Did I also not mention expensive to make.

The ones that going for them is knockback but that's about it. There basically good for multiplayer but still needs buffs.

[steel mica]

Pov the group has now decided that you're the tank:

Honestly the best feeling about being in a valheim multiplayer server is being the base builder and supplier/cook

[vast lily]

Though knockback also makes it not combo well with most weapons. It's only good synergy is with spears and that's mainly the throwing attack. Most weapons don't have good range.

[steel mica]

ability to attack while blocking with spears

straight up busted

[heady parcel]

How odd, I had a chicken escape from the troll cave where I keep them. Normally creatures can't enter or exit a dungeon, so how did this happen?

[steel mica]

first - why do you have chickens in a entrance of a troll cave
second - how

oh wait the chickens are inside the tc

[heady parcel]

Not in the entrance - I have them inside the cave, and it keeps them out of danger from flying nasties or anything else, and it's a good size to keep them breeding.

[steel mica]

wait why are you keeping them inside the troll cave 😭

[heady parcel]

But now one of them snuck outside, and I just can't figure out how it managed to do that

[steel mica]

they're not gonna produce eggs because you're too far away

[echo wind]

Keeps them safe from raids

[heady parcel]

Oh but they do, as long as I'm in the vicinity of the cave, it is active inside

[vast lily]

Yeah, if there was a rework for blocking and parrying. It would be that all shields can parry but separates block level with parry damage. Tower shields should have the highest block power but doesn't grant any damage (or parry just knocks enemies) while bucklers has the least but gives extra damage when parrying. It's mostly a rework of sorts.

[steel mica]

Ohhh so theres no range when it comes to verticality

Because iirc the dungeons are located very high up the sky to where you cant see them render in

[shy marlin]

[steel mica]

[rotund bay]

if they introduced a towershield that damages the ones attacking it then I may actually start using em
else round shield all the way

[nocturne wolf]

I think all tower shields should be -10% speed like flametal, but the serpent scale shield can stay at -15%

[light snow]

would be nice

[charred gale]

Why

[nocturne wolf]

When I use them (which I don’t do much these days) I’m constantly unequipping and re-equipping them just so I can move

[charred gale]

I get that but why can the serpent scale shield stay at -15%

[nocturne wolf]

The iron tower shield needs to do something better or there’s no reason to make it

[charred gale]

Fair enough honestly

[vast lily]

Serpent scale shield is the best tower shields as it not only has less speed penalty but also Pierce resistance and most enemies deal pierce damage. Same block rate as silver tier shields but extra block vs one common damage type and less speed is pretty good.

Though parry is still more powerful, it's pierce resistance rivals it's block power.

[nocturne wolf]

You can use the serpent scale shield together with root harnesk or bonemass power to take 0 damage from Fader’s spin

[shy marlin]

It's time to nerf the root harnesk

🤞 combat update

[vast lily]

Well depends if the devs decided to add the stats to the whole set instead of a single piece of armor. I'd be mixed if it gets changed.

[shy marlin]

Even if pierce res was tied to the entire set, it'd still be OP

Fader literally cannot outpace your passive hp regen with root harnesk on

That's absurd

[steel mica]

Root Harnesk is just straight up busted

all the way to ashlands?

[tacit crystal]

That was heavily hinted some days ago.

[vast lily]

On one hand root harnesk is one of the most powerful chest piece in the entire game and completely outclasses the heavy chest piece. While heavy chests offer more armor points due to har nest having same level as bronze, the pierce resistance alone makes it stack with helmet and leggings and if you combine one harnesk with heavy armor, you gain more protection than a full set heavy armor, with a slightly less movement speed. It has a weakness to fire but if you have fire resistance wine it's offset.

[shy marlin]

link

[tacit crystal]

There are quite many mobs that deal either pure or partial pierce damage.

[tacit crystal]

Smiffe hinted that, wait a sec.

[tacit crystal]

This convo, you were part of it: #valheim-chat message

[vast lily]

On the other hand the nerf to it would make it harder to reach difficult biomes with just this piece resistance so it wouldn't cheese plains, mistlands and ashlands mobs very easely even with lower tier armor.

[shy marlin]

Don't think that's anything really that tangible

It's like "haha we might do this we might not stay tuned xD"

[vast lily]

Though I guess I can use atgeirs for cheesing enemies. Just taking hits would be punishing.

[shy marlin]

Using the atgeir is not a cheese strategy lol

[tacit crystal]

Smiffe said something in that convo about forgetting what Lumah tweeted but I'm not in there anymore so I cannot see anything.

Well, tho. We will see it then.

I have already learned to live without it even in Ashlands during my latest permadeath run.

Imagine the uprising in Reddit if they are going to nerf it.

[shy marlin]

Also on this discord too

[keen trench]

root harnesk, yep, that would be so sad

i like the thing you can mix very old armor for specific survivability, armor level will drop anyway and be more and more low as you progress

but if that's the way to go so be it 😔

[shy marlin]

I agree, but when late game enemies are doing literal 2 damage because of an item, that item should be addressed

They're supposedly addressing bonemass power, so they're well aware how OP resistances are

[vast lily]

Well root and bonemass are 2 broken powerful abilities that needed nerfs so I don't see the changes to be that bad.

[keen trench]

anyway it's strange how it's that "broken", after all it's resistant 50, not even "very resistant"

[tacit crystal]

Resistant + high armor rate.

[keen trench]

14 is high armor rate?

[tacit crystal]

I mean, when you combine it with the current best heavy armor helmet and greaves plus Ashen cape.

[keen trench]

uhm, yeh i get it, but if you nerf root it will become a piece of junk for the game phase it's supposed to support

[tacit crystal]

Even if you use Flametal helmet and Ask leggings you still have over 100 armor with Harnesk.

[keen trench]

well i'm not that deep into mechanics, dunno

maybe the point is more how resinstaces scale up with armor level at this point, but again, not an expert at all

[steel mica]

Is it possible to swim to ashlands

just curious

[keen trench]

eheh, really don't think so

[tacit crystal]

It is, but not for long.

[keen trench]

it's possible to swim in the direction of ashlands, yes

[steel mica]

Wait can you drink a stamina mead while your stamina slowly runs out

[keen trench]

not even a stamina problem, you would boil alive in water

[steel mica]

A particular fellow will be awaiting your arrival 🐍

[steel mica]

Medium rare viking

[keen trench]

oh yes, also that

[vast lily]

Pierce resistance halfs the damage of all enemies while armor rate decreases taken by enemies. You have 114 armor points if combined with ashlands armor plus pierce and you take 116 damage from one of lord reetos powerful pierce attacks.

[tacit crystal]

In this case it would be congratulation viking.

[keen trench]

ahahah, i saw that chart

[vast lily]

Rest of the enemies will do less pierce damage.

[steel mica]

The amount of stone I need for my base is ridiculous

and iron...

oh sweet sweet iron

[keen trench]

ok, just feels strange that to balance combat you have to scrap damage type resistances, hope there will be a way to only adjust that, i just like the viability of different armor combination, makes it less one/way/straightforward.. but yeh, has to be balanced

fenris/root/fenris and a crossbow in mistlands is (was) one of my favourites, and not because it was overpowered at all, very sweaty, pros and cons

[steel mica]

You know how unlucky I am?

Ive killed so many cultists I have yet to get their trophy

[warm sandal]

Feel you there, been there, done that at times I had to clear out 20+ frostcaves to get one of those trophies

[keen trench]

eheh, yup that's classic, first fenris set, 756 caves to get one, next playthru > literally the first cultist i killed (or second, was a group of 2)

[steel mica]

I got a seeker soldier trophy before I could even get a cultist trophy

[vast lily]

Feels strange that the most balanced light armor sets are the troll and asksvin set. They only get their effects if you wear the entire set unlike root or fenris set.

[warm sandal]

root set has a perk you get when wearing all of it "15 + bow skill"

[keen trench]

so does fenris with fist bonus and fire resistance

[errant knoll]

tbh I'm fine for individual pieces getting effects without just slapping them together and getting the "set bonus" since it allows players to run their own creative hybrid builds, it's just that the effects need to actually be balanced

[warm sandal]

and fenris has too... gives 15+ fists (which i love a lot - the fleshrippers are fun)

[vast lily]

Yes but you only need the chest piece (and maybe root mask) to have the greatest benefit.

Meanwhile fenris set isn't that good when it comes to resistances but speed alone is the reason why it's so good.

[steel mica]

Theres like 17 stone pillars here in my plains

[keen trench]

that's exactly what makes so interesting armor combinations for me, i would miss that so bad regardless of general balance

[warm sandal]

that is what is called balanced 😄 givves you some perks and some drawbacks ... the root vest makes you flamable but resistant to pierce

[keen trench]

(wich is very important ofc)

[steel mica]

I am so tempted to turn on resource scale to the max just to see how much stone I get

[warm sandal]

otherwise it would be OP

[vast lily]

Fenris leggings are some of the most underrated leg pieces in valheim. It doesn't have a game changing stat and armor value is low but speed alone makes it good without being expensive. Plus if you got it along with root harnesk and high tier helmet armor then you got a really good all around stats.

Also heavy armor helmet have no speed penalty so they add armor points without the sacrifice of speed which is good.

[errant knoll]

Yeah - there's nothing inherently wrong with the fact that you can mix and match a root harnesk with other items, and it's a POSITIVE aspect of the game.

The fact that doing so is such a dominant strategy just indicates that the resistance number probably needs to be tweaked (or possibly the system of resistances and weaknesses changed so that there's some kind of stacking effect rather than just "the best one wins". Imagine if using fire resist barley and root harnesk together you were only slightly resistant to fire, not the full amount).

The fact that it doesn't have a meaningful downside at all because you can just chug fire resist barley to totally negate it is my problem with it

[rotund bay]

I wish serpent scale shield wasn't a tower shield

[warm sandal]

Well I never mix and match 😄 my OCD does not let me wear mismatched armor 😄 soooo just because a percentage of players does does n ot mean everyone does 😄

[keen trench]

yeh i get that, and ofc have no clue of how they intend to balance it (needed), so basycally just prayng for the best

[steel mica]

The "you get this and then you pretty much nullify 50% of the enemies ingame even lategame biome" armour

[warm sandal]

One has to be very careful not to think that just because we feel a certain way about something it is true for everyone. That is the most difficult thing - every player is different and what feels like terrible to one is gold to the next.

[keen trench]

well it's so good it's a possibility, full / matching set of armor work fine and will always do

[errant knoll]

If even with fire resist Barley you had to care about fire damage a fair bit more with it it suddenly becomes a risk reward aspect in mistlands and ashlands

[keen trench]

yup, this counts for literally everyone

[steel mica]

Im curious now...

[warm sandal]

there have been so many discussions about armor/weapons that completely went out of hand, cause of people feeling their opinion is the only right way 😄 I got very weary of those after a while. that is why i am not writing very often here anymore 😄

[steel mica]

how much fire dmg can I take with fullset of root armour and feather cape

[keen trench]

and actually what would make me miss the old style is the possibility to have less variety of choices at disposal, wich is way consistant with the "everyone is different and prefer different things" concept

[errant knoll]

Yeah I like the concept of gear bonuses not all being tied to completing the set, it just needs a balance pass.

If someone doesn't want to mix and match there's literally nothing forcing them to

[keen trench]

yeh i get that kind of disappointment too, not much here as on steam foruyms for example (there is hell from that point of view), just to be clear, never ever said "i'm right, others are wrong", just discussing preferences

[vast lily]

If pierce and poison resistance would only apply to the entire root set instead of a piece then it wouldn't be broken. It's still good in plains but not so much in mistlands or ashlands. Taking fire damage would be lethal and there's a lot of late game enemies with fire damage than barely wine alone can't make you survive all of it.

[shy marlin]

It'd still be broken

[tacit crystal]

But bit more balanced since it would be tied to the armor set.

[errant knoll]

tbh Pierce resistance with needing the full roosk set in Ashlands probably wouldn't be that broken

the much lower armor values would counterbalance

[vast lily]

Also having same armor rate as bronze means that it also wouldnt survive well against most non-pierce enemies. It's just that you need to keep distance.

[warm sandal]

or you could just leave it as it is and get yourself some ashlands armor and run with that 😄

[errant knoll]

I just think maybe the resistance modifier could be changed so that it's a lower effect than currently and that would also probably work

[steel mica]

I am trying my absolute hardest to stay spoiler free of ashlands

[errant knoll]

There's got to be a happy medium where it's not "too strong" or "too weak"

[shy marlin]

Nerf it down to -25% or -33% and it's good

[shy marlin]

Honestly shouldn't be watchin the valheim discord then

[warm sandal]

I guess the DEVs did think about the balance quite a lot... I am ok with how it is right now 😄

[steel mica]

But my brain make me wan read DDD:

[errant knoll]

I'm less ok with the fact that a piece of gear from the 3rd Biome is so universally useful personally

[warm sandal]

I am absolute ok with that... I am using the frostner in the ashlands to keep them mobs of my chest 😄

and i would not dream to wear the root harnesk there... i do not want to be double flamable 😄

[errant knoll]

If it's only resistant to 1 damage type and it's useful so so often that should tell you everything you need to know about how much (or rather how little) variety of attacks there are you need to deak with.

[warm sandal]

You know what would ensue if they made Skellies with swords deal blunt damage all of the sudden? like what are they supposed to do to make it feel somewhat in keeping with the mobs?

most weapons that are in the game deal slash or pierce (the mobs weapons)

[errant knoll]

I get that, but also if so much of it is pierce then maybe making a gear piece which completely trivialises all of pierce damage isn't a good idea?

[tacit crystal]

I think the root harnesk would deserve a nerf, otherwise good.

[errant knoll]

Yeah like honestly I don't think the game is badly balanced, the root harnesk is just an outlier

[warm sandal]

I never really rely on the resistance of the root harnesk anyway I toss it as soon I can lay my hands on silver... I hate being flamable 😄

[steel mica]

Up until mistland its still a cake walk

[errant knoll]

The issue is that being flammable ceases to be a meaningful weakness the second you get access to fire resist barley because of the way weaknesses and resistances work

[steel mica]

Even with max padded armour normal seeker still pack a punch

[errant knoll]

Well it's only a cake walk for me now because I died and kicked bad habits on my first playthrough.

[warm sandal]

well don't let them hit you? they are mostly not that hard to outmanoeuver ? that is what I do and throwing a spear at them is very safe distance 😄

[errant knoll]

Try telling a lot of new players that their first journey through the swamp is a cakewalk when they don't know all the things they could be doing to make it easier.

[steel mica]

Old me would not survive the mistlands

[keen trench]

yeh the matter seems to explode on ashlands... i'm still waiting to go there and probably will pursue full Ask... strange how root pros/cons are fine until Mistlands and then make this kind of stat extremes as you cross the sea

[errant knoll]

same here, very first version of me also almost gave up at the swamp but he pushed through it lol

[tacit crystal]

Ask set best set.

[errant knoll]

You'd be surprised how many players will give up at the swamp.

[steel mica]

Alot

[keen trench]

yup, scrapped at start the idea of heavy armor (like since bronze age for that particular playtru) and leaning on Ask, very tempting

[steel mica]

Not me, I just took a 2 month break because I could not stand going through all the crypts to get all the iron

[warm sandal]

Not at all the s tep up from forest to swamp is steeeeeep... and from swamp to mountain is brutal

[steel mica]

but now I continued on and gobbled up all that iron

[errant knoll]

My experience was the total opposite

[warm sandal]

Out of all the biomes we have the mountains always give me the most trouble...

[errant knoll]

I found the mountains to be a total cakewalk vs the swamp, like the enemies do more damage but not being wet all the time and having learnt to manage stamina from always being wet the mountains feels like a walk in the park

[warm sandal]

I am fine with ashlands even, I love mistlands... mountains has me on edge

[steel mica]

My first playthrough my farthest was plains biome with full padded armour set and equipment

[keen trench]

forest > swamp yes, one of the baddest jumps, not swamp > mounts tho in my experience (i mean back when i made it the first time)

[errant knoll]

Yeah I disagree that swamp to mountains is "brutal" because for me anytime I replay the swamp is always the place i'm at the highest risk of dying.

before the late game biomes that is, before mist and ashlands

[warm sandal]

even with the root armor - them wolves are such a menace... I have died more times in the mountains than in any other biome (and I have been playing for 3000+ h)

[keen trench]

yeh it depends on too many factors, won't even say the same now that i piled up a couple more playthrus

[warm sandal]

not even dieing as much in the ashlands

[errant knoll]

I find that wild personally, cause you get access to an "I win" button for the next 5 minutes after beating the swamp boss and the moment its about to run out you can avoid death by just leaving the mountains and doing ANYTHING for the next 15 minutes.

Thats the major difference for me

[steel mica]

the difficulty spike of swamp is not because its a new biome, but your introduced to, hard hitting draugrs (not to mention the goddamn spawners) abominations, the enviroment, water enemies that you literally cannot do anything if you're swimming aka leeches, and the rain... the bloody rain

[errant knoll]

The endless rain is the thing that pushes swamp into being the hardest midgame biome for me

[undone forum]

You can make some sick looking bases in the swamp

[errant knoll]

Honestly Black forest and Meadows are basically both tutorial biomes, so I consider beating elder to be the end of early game.

[steel mica]

I would rather gather all the iron from all the cyrpts in the swamp than make a base and get harrased constantly while im building

[warm sandal]

all this talk about the game makes me want to go back playing (am in ashlands right now) 😄

[keen trench]

uhm maybe i don't feel that o.p.ness of bonemass because i mostly forgot i have it, i use it to avoid death in extreme / unlukiest situations, way, way less than once very 20 mins... never incorporated it in my "regular game strategy"

[steel mica]

I rarely used the bonemass ability

[errant knoll]

You can use it once per in game day

[warm sandal]

Forgetfull player that I am i play mostly without forsaken powers (i forget they are there) and mead (i forget i carry them) 😄

[errant knoll]

I pop it basically all the time, if a moment looks even slightly hairy, even if I know I probably wouldn't need it

[steel mica]

Im being genuine here

[errant knoll]

Because having that safety net takes away any nerves I feel which woulod impact my ability to execute the actions I need to do properly

[warm sandal]

Well try to forget there is bonemass power... get's your blood pumping ... sure is 😄

[steel mica]

Any eikthyr forsaken power enjoyers here?

[errant knoll]

Eikthyr is a good power too

[keen trench]

yeh, me too, just recvently (bog witch hype probably) had an hold on massively using meads, powers are still there for yearly celebrations

[tacit crystal]

Once you get used to the speed buff of Ratatosk you never go without it.

[warm sandal]

I would forget to use it anyways 😄

[warm sandal]

I mostly go without it... once in a while i remember when i get swarmed by enemies in the ashlands 😄 lol

[steel mica]

Eikthyr's ability really shines when you're in the mountains, plains, or mistlands

[errant knoll]

I'm mostly rotating between Bonemass, Eikthyr and Queen buffed based on what I'm currently doing in game, Moder only gets a look in if I'm sailing but if i'm sailing into a new biome I just wait for the wind to be right and take bonemass anyway

[warm sandal]

the only mead that i sometimes use when I want to go EEH is lingering stam... 😄

cause a short stambar can be a serious problem

[shy marlin]

don't go EEH

[errant knoll]

Queen buff takes me pickaxe damage from 2 shotting Flametal nodes on a lavaiathans back to one shotting

[shy marlin]

go EEF

[errant knoll]

Which is a big difference

[steel mica]

Imagine a starred deathsquito...

[warm sandal]

@scaless i can not make myself using the feasts 😄

they feel strange

[steel mica]

I got jumpscared by a deathsquito literally rn

[errant knoll]

Would be a shame if there's an item that makes the deathsquito a ticklesquito

[steel mica]

Im wearing full eitr weave and farming for stone pillars

[errant knoll]

I've been running FFH for my "quality" set where I run 2 eitr weave and heavy helm.

or embla I mean

[warm sandal]

i feel on the topic of feasts the minds of players are quite divided it to two camps ... some love them with all their might and others don't use them at all ... I am in the later camp... i want to decide which bar is biggest all by my self 😄

but then agaian... I heed the warning "Don't go out at night!" I next to never do 😄

[tacit crystal]

I usually run HFF during Mistlands and Ashlands, they save me 2 item slots.

[undone forum]

HFF?

[steel mica]

Only reason why I dont eat feast is im too lazy to buy them from the bog witch

[undone forum]

Nevermind I got it

[warm sandal]

(I never carry food - i eat at home go out and k ill stuff and come back home in the evening to sleep) 😄

[errant knoll]

The major thing with Feasts is that the stat drop off over time is exponential after eating, and because the feasts last 50 minutes, 10 minutes after eating them there's basically no drop off at all, vs with regular foods where there is quite a lot

[tacit crystal]

1 Hp 2 feast for food options.

[undone forum]

Yeah I figured that out

[errant knoll]

So even before the late game biomes I still like eating them

[tacit crystal]

Even the 3 first feasts are huge help for exploring early.

[steel mica]

Once I defeat the queen im loading that new boat thingy with all the supplies I need

before I go to the ashlands

because if im correct once I land, hell breaks loose

[errant knoll]

My first landing was... I have no idea how I didn't die and have my gear stranded in the ashlands tbh

[warm sandal]

depends on where you land... I had landings that were less challenging and I had landings that were basically back to home in a few minutes via death transfer

[errant knoll]

So many

So so many enemies

[tacit crystal]

And I also like the decorative aspect of feasts. 👌

[warm sandal]

that is the only reason I make them - they look very pretty on a nice table 😄

[rain flare]

Me:
Lands in ashlands
Me 2 hours later:
Still killing an endless tide of mobs

[warm sandal]

the ashlands is slow progress f or me every time..the respawn rate does make it difficult for me to get further in. It usually takes me quite some in game days to get inland and find flametal... It is very very slow going 😄

[steel mica]

Curious

what happens if your tombstone is on the lava

[errant knoll]

It's just as well the Ashlands includes tools to make the mundane tasks of the rest of the game take so much less time.

[steel mica]

Or its a lets not get to that point situation

[warm sandal]

then you are in trouble deep 😄 gett your selves some bombs

[errant knoll]

It's possible to get it back without dying.

Like there are means of crossing lava and getting it back, but it's a bad place to die to be sure.

[warm sandal]

rather avoid getting flung into the lava by mobs 😄 be strategic about what is at your back 😄

[errant knoll]

In general be strategic with how you position and fight mobs in the ashlands because there's something unique about the way combat works there which doesn't happen anywhere else in the game.

And once you learn to take advantage of it the biome does get easier.

[tacit crystal]

It stays there until you retrieve it.

[steel mica]

So basically your normal corpse run but times 100

[errant knoll]

More of a hop, skip and jump lol

[tacit crystal]

There are some ways to move across lava.

[errant knoll]

But yes when you need to mine metal there for reasons I will not elaborate on, you might want to get and activate queen's power before mining. It might make no difference. It could also matter a lot.

[honest burrow]

I've a question. How is water effect by storms in those bog looking areas in the meadows? If I raise ground above water level and build there, would waves be clipping through my floor?

[steel mica]

Yes

[honest burrow]

damn

[warm sandal]

ah... finally spotted a fortress...that only took me 15 days to get to one... let's hope there i s jade in there

[near widget]

Viking's D-Day

[shy marlin]

Not anymore

Well, it's a complete fraction of what it used to be

[agile temple]

I managed to waste ALL MY BUFFS looking for a single dungeon in an entire mistlands biome

[tacit crystal]

I got all I need from 3 fortresses in my current challenge run, I only needed gems and Flametal for 2 versions of Slayers and Splitnirs.

[agile temple]

The devs could give us a shitty mead that lets us jump 10cm higher why can't they afford to give us a mead to see through all the mist

1 sealbreaker fragment short I am 1 singular fragment short and now I have to spend 2 hours looking for a fucking dungeon

[tacit crystal]

Could give? There is already jumping mead.

[agile temple]

Yes they COULD give X so why COULDN'T they give us Y

It's a type of sentence

[vocal rivet]

You could ask that of literally everything in the game. That's not productive.

[agile temple]

Yeah great idea in the biome where you can't see shit and all the dungeons are in fakeout ruins or hidden behind mountains make us farm for 9 fucking fragments to summon the boss

I managed to burn through both my shitty jumping meads and all my buffs and I still didn't manage to find one

[tacit crystal]

You have had bad RNG seemingly.

[agile temple]

In 2 entire massive biomes??

[warm sandal]

If you do not like the game, don't play ... I am so fed up with folks showing up and bashing everything all the time

[agile temple]

Anyway since I was out of buffs and it started raining so it was permanently giving me the wet debuff I got ganged by 3 seekers out of nowhere and couldn't jump anywhere cause of the terrible generation where 90% of the mistlands is a slope so now I'm off on another rescue mission for my items

[tacit crystal]

The areas of Mistlands are huge nowadays, so it may not be wonder if sometimes it takes few bigger areas to get all items needed. Just RNG things.

[merry pebble]

Its more like: "Why did they not give us X?!" "But already have X..."

[agile temple]

Well did I say "why didn't they give us X?"

[vocal rivet]

Yes?

[merry pebble]

I am sorry, "could give us X.." still the same nonsensical response from you

[agile temple]

I said they COULD give us X so why COULDN'T they give us Y?

Do I actually have to explain basic sentence structure to valheim chat 😭

[vocal rivet]

No, but you could try using it.

[agile temple]

I did and it clearly doesn't work on you guys

[warm sandal]

because they are the Developers and if they tried to accomodate any funny wish of any arbitrary player that would be a very shitty game

[shy marlin]

[agile temple]

Yeah cause seeing through the stupid fucking mist everywhere is a shitty idea

[vocal rivet]

Have you tried making a wisp torch?

[tacit crystal]

Without mist it would be just "lands".

[agile temple]

Which is why you make it a mead

Just like there's a mead to ward off deathsquitoes

[light moat]

Without lands it would just be “mist.”

[vocal rivet]

Why would you want a consumable over a permanent item?

[warm sandal]

I can play mistlands just fine... in fact have been playing just 1 week ago am in ashlands now... maybe you should try play the game as it is intended not like you would want it to be?

[agile temple]

Because being able to see 10cm further doesn't help when the dungeons could be anywhere

[shy marlin]

🤔 I still think an upgrade to the wisplight or a better wisp torch that can be crafted from a level 2 artisan table would be cool ( ♻️ !)

[vocal rivet]

See, now that's a SENSIBLE solution to the issue.

[agile temple]

I use the bound wisp, it doesn't help

[merry pebble]

Then dont use it 😉

[warm sandal]

well maybe use your EARS then

[light moat]

Just gotta take it nice and slow through the Mistlands, you got this

[agile temple]

How are my ears gonna help me find a dungeon 😭

[warm sandal]

if you hear a lot of mobs something is near?

[agile temple]

Yeah well I got jumped by 3 seekers and there was absolutely nothing of interest nearby

Just a ruined bridge which is just standing there aura farming

[warm sandal]

well... no one ever said valheim was an easy game to be playing...

[shy marlin]

Game's easy 😏

[agile temple]

Ok there's difficult then there's just bad design

[shy marlin]

I'll see myself out 🚪

[merry pebble]

Sorry but you dont count Scales xD

[agile temple]

It is not a "skill issue" not being able to find something because you can't see shit and you just wait to get lucky and run into it

[tacit crystal]

Bye, you will be mist.

[warm sandal]

the game is not badly designed... in fact there is folks around that beat the game not eating any food at all... it is just you not getting it your way... suit yourself ... i am back to the ashlands killing more mobs

[agile temple]

ah another empty ruin, great

[merry pebble]

If only there was a specific stone structure or maybe some kind of bright light at the enterence of around half the mines...
And maybe the other type could always have some seekers around the building which houses the enterence...

[agile temple]

Here smart guy. I am right next to an empty fucking ruin that was guarded by 3 seekers

Oh boo hoo! Oh if only I used my FUCKING EARS right?

[valid python]

Other options include the mistwalker and wisp lamps.

ALSO! Pay attention to the mini-map. Darker areas have less fog. In my case I largely navigated by mini map, marking every structure as way points.

[merry pebble]

Oh my, how sad 😄

[agile temple]

Mistwalker clears mist? I'm holding it and not seeing any difference

[merry pebble]

It has smaller radius than wisp light

[agile temple]

Oh it actually does

[tacit crystal]

This is not kind of play to play I'd voluntarily follow.

[agile temple]

yeah ill just wear the bound wisp

[warm sandal]

stop it folks tnat one is just here to whine ... no advice will ever help such a person.

[agile temple]

maybe give helpful advice and then i'll stop whining

[valid python]

Oh so you tried every single possible advice?

[warm sandal]

wait till he makes it to the ashlands 😄 he will be having so much fun... seeing all what he wants to see 😄

[warm sandal]

I do not need to... just read the comments the tone of voice says it all 😄

[agile temple]

also why is it that every enemy can see me through the mist

[valid python]

So you're psychic?

[merry pebble]

They cant 😉 but you make noise

[shy marlin]

I think the queen can?

actually idk ignore me

[merry pebble]

Hmm, not sure about that one, but normal mobs cant 🙂

[warm sandal]

Nope just old enough to have seen it a dozen times 😄

[agile temple]

no they can cause some gjall just spotted me from 50m away in the mist and started projectile vomiting lava balls at me before i could even see it

[valid python]

Fast track to a feather cape, Then you can skyrim-horse climb mountains and glide in desired directions

[merry pebble]

And that was while you were staying completely still i assume...

[warm sandal]

LVL 4 Mistwalker ... sweeeeeet 😄

[agile temple]

no i ran away but that's avoiding my point of why can it see me through the mist?

[valid python]

Barely wine protects from Galls, I'd say pop it as soon as you hear its moan

[merry pebble]

They CANT, but they can HEAR you RUNNING

[agile temple]

oh yay another empty ruin guarded by 3 seekers

[valid python]

The yellow underside is super weak to pierce.

[merry pebble]

They will not notice you through the mist without a sound

[tacit crystal]

Didn't you know? The Queen is responsible of the mist!

(||Obvious jest. ||)

[agile temple]

great i got jumped and died again 🫠

1 from the front, 1 from behind and 1 landed on me from above

god forbid i find a dungeon instead of a bunch of enemies guarding an empty structure

and there's a gjall on my portal, and it's still raining

and i just died to fall damage

[valid python]

Oh yeah, fast track feather cape, and one option is spamming fire places as you explore to supress spawns

[agile temple]

😁👍

[agile temple]

apparently doesn't work on structures cause i did that and still teleported to a 1 star seeker up my ass

[near widget]

Havent reached Ashlands after the nerf so i wouldn't know

[agile temple]

I put my portal inside a fucking mountain and a gjall still somehow found it and is now camping it 😁👍

[shy marlin]

Yea it's just nothing compared to what it used to be, you'll encounter like 3 twitchers, an archer, and a warrior and MAYBE a morgen now

[near widget]

What's up Gjall?

[valid python]

If push come to shove and mistakes + bad RNG makes a situation unwinnable I reset the situation with dev tools. Thick, bold and embossed line between overcoming a challenge and needing to reset back to par.

[warm sandal]

If only there was a video plattform where so many really good valheim players showed how to do certain things 😄

[warm sandal]

That is plenty for a chump like me 😄

[valid python]

If only people could offer help without being pudrid sacks of passivagrssive evil garbage

[shy marlin]

Yea I mean I'm just comparing what it used to be vs what it is now, not speaking to the difficulty of it

[vocal rivet]

Hang on, this isn't Reddit.

[near widget]

Putrid Hole mentionned

[warm sandal]

I never experienced it as I was holding of on playing the PTB... and from what I was told i would have not stood a chance 😄

[merry pebble]

Nah you would pull through 😄 even mediocre player like me managed it 😄

[warm sandal]

The first time i did enter the ashlands a fter it went on the normal branch i died in 5 min and it took me 20 ingame days to get my stuff back 😄 So much fun

I am haveing the time of my life with the ashlands... but it sure is something 😄

[agile temple]

yay i got my items back, the search continues 😊

[valid python]

My game glitched first time. When the Bone maw attacked my ship I was like warped to the backrooms and walking in place on the ocean floor in a glitched invenibility state but couldn't move

[shy marlin]

Ah yea I experienced that on my third playthru of the ashlands on ptb

[near widget]

Dark Magic

[shy marlin]

I think it was a known issue and they fixed it during ptb

[warm sandal]

in fact this is the 4th time i reached ashlands since it came out 😄 it might be my next favorite biome after the mistlands 😄 plains used to be my favorite but now it is mistlands and the ashlands are growing on me 😄

[valid python]

Tried to retrieve the boat on another character and it ripped me out of dev fly and did the same XD

[agile temple]

i gotta look at the code for generating infested mines because there's no way something isn't wrong with it

[valid python]

Ashland's marks the first time I've been compelled to give my walls a sally port.

[shy marlin]

You can use printseeds in game to find any infested mines nearby

dev commands not needed

[agile temple]

well i don't wanna cheat at this point

[shy marlin]

I feel like it's cheaty but ye

[agile temple]

but i thought it would take 20 mins max not 2 hours to find one singular sealbreaker fragment

[near widget]

speedrunners use it in glitchless runs

[shy marlin]

ye

[near widget]

if you see/hear multiple seekers in a group then investigate

mine entrances are guarded by around 3+ seekers

[agile temple]

alright good timing i just found another group of 3 seekers

time to get my hopes up

[near widget]

theres also apparently particular rock formations where you would find a type of mine but i dont really know their particular traits

not that i need them anymore i got all the blackcores id need

[agile temple]

the 3 seekers were guarding... a couple viny stone pillars 😊

[shy marlin]

It's just three spikes pointing out all relatively close together and all facing relatively the same direction

[agile temple]

oh and a gjall noticed me lovely

[near widget]

time to find some dvergers

[merry pebble]

You may have better luck focusing on the actual game instead of switching between it and dc every half minute...

[near widget]

if my wifi wasnt absolute dog i would have offered to join you and help you find and clear some mines

[agile temple]

i have a 2nd monitor i can type and play basically at the same time

[near widget]

and i have a laptop with no secondary monitor and just autorun and then alt tab

surely that wont bite me in the ass

[agile temple]

i would never risk autorunning in this game

especially not the biome of not being able to see anything and random 20m pitfalls

[lyric rune]

mmm
I need to actually get to the mistlands

I tend to always stop at the plains...

[near widget]

plains are easy compared to mistlands

so id prepare myself for another difficulty spike

[agile temple]

oh lovely this side of the biome ends here... imma just post a screenshot of how far i've explored without finding a single dungeon

and that's only this mistlands

[near widget]

where you posting the screenshot

[errant knoll]

Sometimes you can get unlucky. Also sometimes

[agile temple]

#screenshots

[errant knoll]

You can walk past one and miss it. I've found dungeons going back over space I ran through before.

The mist makes it very easy to miss

[near widget]

i feel like theres def some in there and you missed em

@agile temple could you send me the seed and a screenshot of the entire map?

[agile temple]

🤷‍♂️

[agile temple]

i would but again i don't wanna get any hints i'm not supposed to have

[near widget]

well all ill say is that you probably missed some

[agile temple]

oh lovely the 15'th time i've seen a group of 5 viny pillars

just there to get my hopes up and let me down all in an instant

[near widget]

i look for seeker groups, mist lights and dverger structures.

the third one can be a mine entrance in their abandonned form

[agile temple]

yup ik

[errant knoll]

It is very easy to miss them

[agile temple]

i've found maybe 5 functional dverger houses and 3 abandoned ones that only lead upstairs or to an empty basement

[errant knoll]

I did it, I thought the same as you my first time but I missed 2 of them lol

[agile temple]

this is the peak valheim experience

[near widget]

peak valheim experience is actually never having enough iron

[errant knoll]

unironically I actually think it is

Mistlands is my favourite biome in hindsight

[agile temple]

oh lovely another group of 5 viny pillars

[valid python]

I gotta back track to mislands, Sevral key upgrades require I have more sap than I have

[agile temple]

i gotta say the demolisher is definitely my favourite weapon so far

[near widget]

what if the true dungeons were the viny pillars we found along the way

viny ahh pillars

[agile temple]

i feel like an absolute menace just using it

[valid python]

VIP of Mistlands

[near widget]

is that the mistlands version of stagbreaker?

[agile temple]

MVP you mean? haha

[valid python]

I'm actully still rocking Frostnere as my main weapon. I'm definitly in the Frostnere cult.

[agile temple]

mmmmm was just getting jumped by 3 ticks and 2 seekers on 22hp and one swing solved all my problems

[near widget]

Frostner's knockback is waaay too much for me to like especially on such sloppy terrain

[agile temple]

nvm guess it was 5 seekers and 4 ticks and i might be dead

yup i died. time for 30 minutes of running back to my items

[errant knoll]

The knockback is why I love it, its an AoE "get away from me tool".

[agile temple]

the peak valheim experience...

[near widget]

do you not have a portal nearby?

[agile temple]

well on the same biome i guess

see i originally thought i was just gonna go find a nearby dungeon, get my 1 sealbreaker fragment and leave forever

little did i know this was just gonna be my entire session, finding 1 singular fragment

oh the gjall camping the portal is still here. lovely.

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lovely jubbly

[agile temple]

oh yippee i was running past a seeker soldier vs dverger fight and i got caught in its 50m area attack radius

back to the house!

big shame that one attack clipped my toenail and instakilled me!

yay another 5 viny pillars

[last meteor]

On my main menu screen, there is something about my having disabled cloud saves, but I don't see anything about cloud saves in the preferences. What are they talking about?

[agile temple]

yeah idk. im just gonna tp back to the other mistlands i've already fully explored and try that one again ig

[last meteor]

I guess you guys don't know, either.

[merry pebble]

Try to go to properties in steam and in general there is an option for cloud saves

[last meteor]

Is that something extra I have to pay for, from Steam?

[agile temple]

how do i get my friend who doesn't respect my sorted chests at all to actually start

whenever he has an item he doesn't want in his inventory, he tosses it around or throws it into a chest it doesn't belong in

[merry pebble]

Talk to them

[agile temple]

i have. several times. he just does it again

and i enter all my sorted chests and find random junk in them

or just walk around the house and pick up something he tossed away

(our obliterator is 10cm outside the entrance of the house)

[merry pebble]

Get better friends then i guess, if they cant be talked to what else can you do...

[agile temple]

🤷‍♂️

logs on once every 3 days just to jumble everything up and leaves

[merry pebble]

Dont let him back in then?

[agile temple]

i mean the whole point of the world was that we were supposed to play together

i think ill just stop sorting things and toss them around like he does

[merry pebble]

If they are just making mess then they may be not worth playing with

[vocal rivet]

Well you seem to hate playing so I guess that's not motivating for others.

[agile temple]

well he does make progress and help with stuff he's not being an asshole on purpose he's just godawfully lazy

[agile temple]

1 message away from being blocked

[wooden tapir]

could it be that they are not very experienced in survival games in general so they are not really sure what they should/shouldnt be doing so they hop on to try and play but then nobody helps them learn so then they get demotivated and leave for a few days? @agile temple

[vocal rivet]

🤷‍♂️

[wooden tapir]

just spitballing

[agile temple]

nope he really is just that lazy

instead of walking for 2 seconds to the obliterator he will literally just put something in another chest and listen to me complain about it when i find it

[wooden tapir]

if he is truly your friend why does it bother you that much if you have to take a few things out of some chests and move them to the obliterator

[agile temple]

because it wouldn't be that difficult, i don't know, putting the wood in the wood chest instead of filling it with our old armour sets once we've upgraded to the new ones

[vocal rivet]

Old armour sets are useful for death runs.

[agile temple]

which is why i have a chest for those

and if it's full then god forbid he takes 10 wood from the wood chest and makes another one in our very spacious basement

anyhow

[wooden tapir]

thats not the point, organizaition is different for different people, maybe he doesnt quite understand your layout so he just puts it somewhere fo you to sort later, it doest take you more than a few minutes to fix it so why would it be a reason to just blacklist a friend from playing with you

[agile temple]

we have actual stacks of black metal so im just gonna replace every normal chest in our house with black metal chests to take a break from running in circles searching for an elusive dungeon

[wooden tapir]

if it really bothers you that much, you can legit just set up a couple " drop " chests that are specifically for him to drop random things in so its " easier" for you to sort later

[agile temple]

i never said i was gonna blacklist him

[wooden tapir]

you are talking about not wanting to play with them because of some minor sorting issue that are easily fixed

[agile temple]

i didn't say i don't wanna play with him

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kill him

ingame ofc

[agile temple]

ughhhh i really don't wanna run and look for dungeons for another 2 hoursssss 🫠

godlike restraint stopping me from spawning this last sealbreaker fragment in

[vocal rivet]

Honestly there's no shame in doing that. RNG is kicking your ass and you're not enjoying it anymore.

[agile temple]

ill msg my friend and ask if he's ok w it

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that or he's missing dungeons

[agile temple]

i probably am missing dungeons

I feel kinda bad for surtlings. Imagine your only spawn location being in the one biome where it's always raining and where you literally can't walk anywhere

When I first found them I thought I found them in an unlucky spawn but apparently they only spawn in swamps

[vocal rivet]

They used to spawn in Ashlands a long time ago.

[agile temple]

makes a lot more sense

[vocal rivet]

It does.

[nocturne wolf]

They are one of the oldest creatures in the game and have always been in swamps https://youtu.be/PAL4JWaAcsk

[jolly stag]

for me it makes sense there - swamps, gas coming up and burning - i like it

[agile temple]

I guess scientifically it makes sense but from a gameplay standpoint they put the enemies in the place where they are at their absolute weakest

to the point where it is physically impossible for a surtling to be a threat

[merry pebble]

They owuld not a be a threat anywhere really

Except maybe meadows

[agile temple]

at least somewhere where they could burn you

because here they're just a surtling core farm

[vocal rivet]

Sadly that may be the point..

[agile temple]

anyway enough distracting myself with chests it's time to find that damn dungeon

[quasi latch]

WE BELIEVE IN YOU

[rocky nebula]

yeah surtlings are too weak for where they are placed

[agile temple]

decided to take a tiny swim and got jumped by 4 ticks

safe to say, i couldn't swing my demolisher a single time to kill all of them cause they kept pushing me into the water and forcing me to swim

and so i died, fully buffed

valheim is quite literally the embodiment of "what did i do wrong in my past life to end up here"

[agile temple]

Why is it that gjall fire sometimes does 20dmg per tick and sometimes does 5

Same armour set

[nocturne wolf]

If you get hit by multiple projectiles the fire damage will stack

[agile temple]

Ah of course it will

[nocturne wolf]

Is that both with or without fire resistance?

[agile temple]

w/o