valheim-chat

[nocturne wolf]

Don't leave the iron mace. Frost damage is useless against stone golems and some other enemies so you want both

[elder glen]

Oh is it better if sword and hammer?

[nocturne wolf]

The iron mace is the best weapon you have access to for stone golems

[vital umbra]

no

iron pickaxe

[elder glen]

WHAR?

[elder glen]

is there stone golems outside of montains?

[nocturne wolf]

Even with the pickaxe weakness, the damage is very low. They're also very slow. Stick to the mace.

[nocturne wolf]

No, only mountains

[vital umbra]

nah, parry with shield switch to pickaxe, decimate.

[elder glen]

I already killed moder, should I keep the mace in plains?

[cosmic igloo]

btw how does vines affect ele magic? does every hit give me xp?

[elder glen]

based on plains and whats' after mace or hammer

[nocturne wolf]

You don't need it. The frostner and porcupine (plains mace) are better than the iron mace in plains.

[elder glen]

Ohh good good tyyy

[smoky obsidian]

I don't find any Hildir or Haldor references ?

nevermind

[merry pebble]

Talk in faction base section 4th line 🙂

[smoky obsidian]

yup just found it, thanks haha

[merry pebble]

No problem xD

[tepid prawn]

Ahem have you tried hybrid.... its absolutely powerful, Staff of Protection + Staff of the Wild, together with a Primal Berserkir Axes, use either HSE food or might even work with 2 feasts if you have the Ashlands one unlocked, then when you get in a pickle you also pop Bonemass, Berserkir Mead, and why not also Rata and Lightfoot mead and just turn into the most magical amazing killing machine thats almost unstoppable!

[cosmic igloo]

ya i have

full mage is just stronger than anything

[vital umbra]

ahem have you tried taking less damage 🗣️

[cosmic igloo]

because vines

its insane how stupid it is

[tepid prawn]

I have vines out too while I m slicing through enemies...

[cosmic igloo]

every other build gotta do stuff like pop this pot.. bait this attack then counter.. stagger and then swap weapon... meanwhile mage: press vines 4 times and walk in a circle

[tepid prawn]

but if you have 8 archers up like I had yesterday you may also die as mage

[cosmic igloo]

just fireball them from narnia

[tepid prawn]

there was also asks and a valk and 2 morgens

[cosmic igloo]

or put a vine down and then walk away, they get crushed as they chase u

ya ok but thats difficult for any build lol but doable with mage, with melee forget about it

[tepid prawn]

and the archers don't chase that far, I was happy I was not pure mage then

[cosmic igloo]

also im talking specifically about hard/very hard. you cant tank dmg

[tepid prawn]

it worked with my hybrid setup, I managed to not die a single time

yeah very hard is certainly very different if it would have been on that I would have been dead

[cosmic igloo]

melee works on normal because u can tank hits and its fine

just hold up block also and np

i even tried raising my melee skills to 80s and its still just pathetic in comparison to mage

more staggers tho, whic is cool... in 1v1s.. but ashland never 1v1

[tepid prawn]

I'm also getting a lot of immobilising with primal axes and also having roots out though

may main issue is I die more as mage in ashlands, with blood around 50 and elemental in the 40s

[placid copper]

Ngl, thinking about inviting more people to my server, but we're kinda late into the game already so idk.

[nocturne wolf]

I don’t have enough luck for jade weapons, I’ve killed at least one two-star charred warrior with jade axes without immobilising it.

[cosmic igloo]

my blood is 16 and ele 53

i use EES, literally just throw down vines dude

and fireball some archers or whatever that are far away

[tepid prawn]

It did work for me I got 2 new ones we were about 2 days past Moder, in Plains or further it might be real hard to recruit unless you want them already come equipped etc and it also means they dont have a base, will be much much harder recruitment

[cosmic igloo]

walk in circles to avoid projs

[tepid prawn]

I think you probably are a god at walking around projectiles if that works super well for you in Ashlands 🙂

[cosmic igloo]

im not but also just learn to play from distance also a bit i guess

[tepid prawn]

or I'm too old to get out of their way fast enough reliably to not die xD

[cosmic igloo]

and use line of sight sometimes if theres too many projectiles

[placid copper]

Yeah. I mean we're still not far into the mountains. Most we have is a couple mountain weapons. That's like it.

[cosmic igloo]

and always throw down vines

[placid copper]

So we're still swamp level mostly armor wise.

[tepid prawn]

thats the relatively latest I would try to recruit a few more

lots of people also drop off at Mistlands & Ashlands

[placid copper]

Why is that?

[sharp bluff]

cuz both biomes can be annoying af

[tepid prawn]

I'd love to have an answer to this too 😛

[cosmic igloo]

ya mistlands is by far the most annoying biome

[tepid prawn]

We are now changing things up too, with a build server that will be up for like 2 years or longer and a progression server where we kill the bosses every 3 weeks or so... and can farm and bring over biome appropriate stuff from the build server to progression as well (no bosses killed on build server)

[unreal viper]

About to finally fight fader for the first time tonight

[tepid prawn]

I made a portal on a putrid hole right next to his arena yesterday, only killed him twice so far

[cosmic igloo]

gl it can be a long fight so expect night to come and mobs to come.. and u might have to repair gear etc

try not to die on a rly aids spot

[tepid prawn]

I'm thinking of build a base with some earth walls and a couple gens and grausten building inside there today or tomorrow

[unreal viper]

I'm using a fortress as a base

Did break the walls down

[tepid prawn]

can't do that near that Fader spawn, there isn't any close by

[unreal viper]

I used grausten to make stairs and jump inside. Oh on mine I have one right next to fader

[tepid prawn]

the 2 we found have the closest fortress a long journey away, not feasible to track that far

[unreal viper]

Oh

Could use portal to connect the two

[cosmic igloo]

@shy marlin btw i see u just have boss kills with some quirks. would be informative to see you just simply roaming ashlands on very hard

[shy marlin]

“Some”? 💀I say no rested, armor, food, forsaken power, and no potions qualifies to be more than sum

But sure I can send ya some random roaming footage

[cosmic igloo]

lmao ya i mean its impressive to say the least

[shy marlin]

I’m just teasing ya

[cosmic igloo]

xD

[shy marlin]

Right now I’m working on doing valheim in reverse, which involves undergeared Ashlands shenanigans so that will be interesting

[cosmic igloo]

so you arrive in meadows with ashlands gear? aight based

[tepid prawn]

naked ashlands and fader? good luck lol

[cosmic igloo]

well.. check his yt channel

[shy marlin]

honestly haven't even tested if level 3 wooden club can outpace fader passive regen

💀 oh no it might not

So Fader has 25000 hp on nm, and passive regen is 1.67% right, so fader roughly regens 420 hp/min (nice), but on VH you do -30% so idkkk

[cosmic igloo]

nice

[tepid prawn]

someone post it in self promotion I dont know what its called

[cosmic igloo]

jsut click his profile, its linked

[placid copper]

Ashlands is unironically pretty easy. It's difficult when you INITIALLY get there but it becomes really easy really quick. Unironically it's even easier with the crystal battle axe cause everything is so slow there for the most part

so you can just get distance with the special and then keep swinging

[nocturne wolf]

All biomes feel easy once you’ve practiced in them enough

[elder glen]

is it me or serpents used to give shells

[nocturne wolf]

Serpents drop scales but they sink. You’ll need to kill the serpent near land. The abyssal harpoon can help but isn’t required.

[elder glen]

ohhh time to dive then

[tepid prawn]

this is the most accurate statement I've seen, Ashlands is so hard for majority because we have had the shortest amount of time to practice it, thats why Plains is so easy now, it was the endgame biome for like 8 or more of my playthroughs

[nocturne wolf]

I’ve spent so much time practicing ashlands since it realeased that in some ways I find plains harder now.

[elder glen]

is mistland apprachable?

[vital umbra]

I witnessed a fuling berserker trophy drop, then disintegrate into nothingness.

[vocal rivet]

In what sense?

[elder glen]

i've maxed montain set and a max black metal sheild

basically i'm comfortable in plains but skipped the boss

I'm just scared it'd be an instant death

[nocturne wolf]

Mistlands is doable without yagluth, but why do you want to skip him?

[vocal rivet]

You'd be better off with the drop from the boss but it would be doable.

[elder glen]

some small fear

[elder glen]

nicee

[tepid prawn]

its not, the only boss who massively disadvantages you by not killing them is Moder, unlocks massive amounts of things

[elder glen]

ahhh, I couldn't find plains enchantments except the shield

i don't feel ready

[nocturne wolf]

Are you farming flax yet?

[tepid prawn]

did you make something with the new drop from Moder?

[elder glen]

the wheat things?

[cosmic igloo]

ya

[tepid prawn]

no not wheat the other crop

[nocturne wolf]

There’s two plains crops. Barley for food and flax for equipment.

[elder glen]

ohhh i haven't turn them

welp going back then

[tepid prawn]

need to find flax in the plains

[rotund parrot]

Then you add flax into a spinning wheel

[tepid prawn]

super important

[cosmic igloo]

barley also important for fire pots, you will need them for a mob in mistlands

[nocturne wolf]

You also want fire resistance for yagluth.

[elder glen]

one fenris panties would do

[nocturne wolf]

Isn’t the fire resistance for the set bonus?

[merry pebble]

i believe so, yes

[nocturne wolf]

You could use full fenris armor if you’d prefer

[elder glen]

ohh it just reduces it?

[merry pebble]

speed bonus is per piece, not the fire resist

[elder glen]

I never trust potions

[merry pebble]

You should 🙂

[elder glen]

with the cool down ahhhh

[nocturne wolf]

Only healing and stamina meads have cooldowns

[elder glen]

ohh

[merry pebble]

the potion lasts 10 minutes and you can drink another immidietely

[elder glen]

i trust potions now

[nocturne wolf]

Have you found the bog witch?

[cosmic igloo]

fenris works too but u need to use the full set

[vital umbra]

....okay...i just had my first death in the playthrough so far.....

[elder glen]

noh not even the blue lady

[vocal rivet]

I will never understand how people go through the entire game just missing out entire elements of gameplay. I've just seen another guy say they've never farmed.

[vital umbra]

lol

[vital umbra]

Guess what killed me, I'm in the plains still....never died up to this point.

[elder glen]

I basically don't know what's beyond plains, it's like darkweb it's not even on the internet

[nocturne wolf]

Growths? A starred berserker?

[vocal rivet]

Potions happen from Black Forest onwards.

[vital umbra]

A two starred fucking berserker "They were bros man" i just got back from a fuling village i have no potions and i have no fucking bonemass for 15 minutes.

[elder glen]

I only made health and stamena but like they had cool down so I never used them ever since, for bonemass I just used the mask and some dodging skills

[vital umbra]

One shot.

[nocturne wolf]

Don’t kill a boss or miniboss if you aren’t ready for the raids they unlock

[vital umbra]

i'm always ready

[nocturne wolf]

But you weren’t

[vital umbra]

no, they cheated.

[rotund parrot]

It's fine to kill the minibosses, just don't get the chests to hildir

[nocturne wolf]

Of course. Why can’t we have two stars?

[rotund parrot]

Unless you want to unlock their respective raids

[vital umbra]

2 starred myself.

time to hang out with the bog witch for like 15 minutes

[cosmic igloo]

for other hard/vh melee enjoyers, for morgens u just use himmini and stagger->hit over and over right?

i dont even think slayer staggers it

and axes def dont

[rotund parrot]

I just parry everything and use lightning sword

[cosmic igloo]

ya no parry sry

[rotund parrot]

On hard yes, just not the 1 stars

[elder glen]

was just saved by a wolf hunt

[tepid prawn]

Is it ethical to farm asksvin in the mountains?

[placid copper]

Welp, I just made an LFG.

Let's see if people decide to join. Hopefully I can beat the game soon too.

[rapid portal]

Valheim is the hardest souls like I have ever played fr

[tepid prawn]

it gets much easier after you played for 2400h I think haha

[rapid portal]

I am at 1065 hours rn..

still lots to go

[tacit crystal]

I just reached 2300h

[light moat]

I’m only at 800 😔

[vital umbra]

1300

[nocturne wolf]

I think I’m around 900
It’s hard to tell exactly because a lot of my hours are on Xbox and that won’t give me a specific number, but I have over 300 hours on steam.

[foggy glacier]

Seriously, up close the Dundr is a Redrum machine!

[tacit crystal]

Dundr is Morgen deleter.

[foggy glacier]

totally.

[ocean river]

any servers I can join

[solemn matrix]

#1024264966712340510

[hearty flume]

Oh lordie lou.. disaster has stroke!

I hate ashlands..

[nocturne wolf]

What happened?

[hearty flume]

We were gonna set up a second portal.. we were 4 people dying.. and there is one person who is trying to get down a portal.. and this is not a great scenario

[tepid prawn]

I always start off the shore with first portal and a shield generator, then work from there

[hearty flume]

Yeah, we got to a really bad spot..

[tepid prawn]

and is also good to reverse the Drakkar instead of going head on in

[foggy glacier]

I've lately tried to find a beach spot near a ruin or rock that I can quickly jump up on.

[cosmic summit]

If I make a flat roof using two layers of wooden flooring would the top layer prevent rain damage on the bottom layer?

The idea is it won't see the top so I won't care if it looks bad

[nocturne wolf]

Wood floor doesn’t work as a roof. You need to use roof pieces or stone floor.

[placid copper]

What do people mean when they put “dedicated” in LFG? Like it’s always open?

Like dedicated server?

[gray sand]

Yes.

[vocal rivet]

Pretty much, yeah. I.e. it's not run off an individual's PC that you need to wait for them to boot up to play.

[tepid prawn]

Means its hosted in a way where the server is always up instead of hosted only during someones play time when they are ingame hosting it.

[gray sand]

As in they are paying for a 3rd-party to host the server for them.

[vocal rivet]

Not always.

[tepid prawn]

No can also be locally hosted on another machine in their home

[gray sand]

Odds of that being what is meant are low, but it is possible.

[placid copper]

Ah.

[placid copper]

Anyone know any good sites for dedicated servers?

I don’t have a whole lotta money but enough

[tepid prawn]

#dedicated-server I use gportal works okay for my 2 servers so far

[keen cliff]

I've heard people talk a lot about G-Portal. the pricing looked reasonable

[placid copper]

How fair are the prices?

Like if I were to make a small server of 10 how much is that gonna be?

Since I know minimum is 10

[tepid prawn]

Paid 217 AUD p.a. per server

[hearty flume]

About the ashlands, I think I moved a bit too fast, I just beat yagluth and queen, and got to ashlands, and I feel I'm not ready cause I kept dying over and over, so might be an idea to get a change of pace

[placid copper]

Also how would I keep it open? Do I need my pc running at all times or can I keep it up with my pc shut down?

Like how do those sites work?

[tepid prawn]

its hosted by them, its always available

[placid copper]

Got it.

[tepid prawn]

but #dedicated-server is right channel to discuss that

[placid copper]

Fair

[keen cliff]

many people find they can rush pre-Ashlands, playing a loose, gung-ho style. Then they hit Ashlands and find they have to be a lot more careful and cautious

[shy marlin]

Idk if you haven't learned how to be careful and cautious by plains/mistlands were you even playing the game

[tepid prawn]

yeah true but level of carefulness is quite increased for Ashlands, Mistlands pre nerf is quite easy if you're good at fighting and tactics and prepared, in Ashlands even that sometimes is not enough haha

and the fact that we have had a lot less time to learn Ashlands nuances than for plains or even mistlands

[shy marlin]

I honestly don't think ashlands is that much harder than mistlands/plains

It's just that people have played it less and therefore are less experienced, like there was a time where people were scared of the plains, and now since they've become more familiar with it and experienced it's a non-scary biome for them

[vital umbra]

beautiful biome

[tough ferry]

i got two shot by a deathsquito while trapped in water, i think being scared of the plains is justified

[vital umbra]

i look back at the ancient memes of deathsquitos being considered the anti-christ and cringe.

[tepid prawn]

might be right, I probably have 5 times the hours played I do in plains compared to Ashlands, because I already did play a lot when Mistlands and Ashlands weren't even out yet

[keen cliff]

in the olden days, you only get one shot by a deathquito 🙂

pre-root harnesk, and pre-deathsquito nerf was quite different

[vital umbra]

ohh it got nerfed huh..

[cobalt canyon]

deathsquitos had a nerf?

[shy marlin]

just like almost everything in valheim 🙂

[tepid prawn]

yeah I remember that when Plains was the endgame, didnt even have the dangerous growths yet then but still felt harder because we had less practice

[tough ferry]

i was wearing troll armor because my swamp had like two inches of plains in the corner and it was enough to spawn one lol

[plush umbra]

well that was still assuming you were undergeared for plains, which most people were on their first plains encounter.
they were always meant to be a doorstop, letting you know that you're not ready for that biome yet, and becoming almost harmless once you are

oh the amount of screenshots i'd see of people rolling up on plains shores in a karve wearing bronze armor

[cobalt canyon]

NLWOAP

Never Land Without A Portal

[vital umbra]

i don't know man i way back in the day remember encountering swamp first and then plains and i wasn't that scared of deathsquitos with iron armor, and this was beforeeee....uhhh any content update had come out, i don't know exactly, i don't remember hearing or noticing any deathsquito nerf..

[plush umbra]

that nerf happened at some point before hearth & home (sep 16 2021)
can't remember exactly when, and how substantial it really was. i doubt they'd have oneshot you in iron armor with swamp food though

[vital umbra]

yeahh nah, i played it like weeks after release.

i never got the terror of deathsquitos

[plush umbra]

me neither 😅 but i do play extremely cautious and slow

[tepid prawn]

I very vaguely remember it being nerfed but don't recall details, so long ago and I'm gettin old haha

[vital umbra]

generally the same, i always fully upgrade everything because it feels right.

[keen cliff]

i've watched videos of other people playing, and I generally think all those people are crazy

[cobalt canyon]

I freak out about the bees at my own base because of the sound

-WHERESIT?

[keen cliff]

for a while i thought i heard deathsquito buzzing in my sleep

[plush umbra]

except when i get a random burst of impulsive recklessness and it usually ends up working out for some reason, scarlet can probably remember a few times

[tepid prawn]

my first screenshot is farming turnips 21 Feb 2021

[cobalt canyon]

I started round the time Mistlands first dropped

[plush umbra]

my first screenshot is...looking at my own dead body in front of my not-even-very-tall cabin, died to fall damage while building

[cobalt canyon]

#valheim-help message

-I think this was for you

[tepid prawn]

I just felt terrible looking at the boxy building I did back then

[cobalt canyon]

Did you say box? I like big box. I build big box - I done with building

[tepid prawn]

I don't build like that anymore haha

[plush umbra]

i patched up one of the random meadows ruins and then built 2 similarly styled huts around it, that was my main base for the first 600 hours

[cobalt canyon]

I do and will for awhile yet

[plush umbra]

needless to say it got a thick coating of chests over time as i just could not fit anything inside the buildings anymore

[cobalt canyon]

I move my main base at least twice in a game

Load all the metal up, sail out, bring everything else by portal

[plush umbra]

i tend to spend a looooong time planning ahead for a final base and preparing materials, which was on full display when i got into valheim

[tepid prawn]

These days I set goals and play according to them, like 1 base per biome or if going relatively fast I go: Recycled meadows hut > swamp treehouse > endgame base somewhere often plains sometimes mountains or other

[plush umbra]

i first had the idea for my eventual main base very shortly after beginning to play, and only started building it after mistlands came out (about 2 years later)

[austere belfry]

This is what I've done with a Draugr Village. Just fixed it up and used it as home. But now It's very cramped and need to move elsewhere now

[tepid prawn]

Now I have 5 solo worlds and 2 servers with main bases

I even have a character whose job it is to fish!

[cobalt canyon]

Draugr towns make very nice commandeered mid-game bases

[austere belfry]

or maybe I won't move, cuz its a nice spot on a hill by a shore with an oak tree. Might just demolish and rebuild bigger

[plush umbra]

i just have one main base, but it's a big one
along with getting the idea of that base, i also started religiously collecting and saving up stone like it's gold almost immediately after discovering stone build pieces. i had something around 95+k stone stashed by the time i started building hvassfjallr and i'm glad i was so committed to it because it still wasn't enough to finish it 😅

[tepid prawn]

I normally plant all my base trees myself

[cobalt canyon]

Yeah but you wouldn't have been able to build it with Grausten at that point...

[plush umbra]

i kinda knew that stone would remain my favourite "castle" type material by the end

and so far that guess is still correct

[tepid prawn]

did a combined grausten/ashwood thing when testing it in PTB its fabulous

[plush umbra]

stone pieces below 50% health just look really good imo
-# yes my entire main base is below 50% health because i like the look

[cobalt canyon]

yeah why not

Pieces are plenty strong

[late tinsel]

it left gamepass

[plush umbra]

i can't get over how out of place the pristine, smooth texture and weirdly micro-detailed models of grausten look

same for ashwood, it just sticks out so bad imo

[late tinsel]

id buy it if literally everyone I showed it to didn't hate it

[plush umbra]

you'd think something called "ashwood" would be rough and textured but no it looks basically like plastic

[cobalt canyon]

Valheim is a game that people think they don't want

But absolutely love when they're in

[late tinsel]

it's so good

I'm not gonna part with $20 to play solo though

[vocal rivet]

You won't play a solo game solo? Seems odd, but that's your choice.

[plush umbra]

(the unbuildable ruin pieces you find out in ashlands however all look fantastic. a strong normal map, lower texture resolution, smoother edges and bigger model size to obscure the very tight edges go a long way)

[brave spire]

Hiya Im Kinda New And Wanna Learn To Play.

[vital umbra]

play the game then 🤔

thats not trying to be rude but thats what i think most people do.

[rich ice]

It's the perfect game to just dive in and experiment with. You don't have to worry about breaking quest lines or anything.

[vital umbra]

If you want to ask something specific you'll get an answer, and you'll also get spoiled, so unless you reach a wall in difficulty seriously just discover things and practice.

I guessssss theres a general rule of always be cautious, read all of hugins notes and stuff...

[vocal rivet]

Those would have been better to start with than 'play the game then'. Listen to Hugin, pick up everything you find (it's how you unlock recipes) don't try and progress too quickly and most importantly have fun.

[vital umbra]

that is my gut reaction.

this is like the only game server that i am in and ask about things other than grim dawn, i am very independent so i don't get it sometimes 🐦

[vocal rivet]

Other people, that are different to you, sometimes need a little nudge.

[vital umbra]

really makes you think doesn't it

[vocal rivet]

Not hugely, no.

[vital umbra]

something about the absolute inaccessibility of some older games makes me laugh sometimes 🥴 i feel like the gaming crowd has expanded alot since years ago.

[brave spire]

you can get emulators to play older games o.O

[cobalt canyon]

I still got a working NES, used to be my mother's

Quite like older games, not as wrapped up in industry standards

[vocal rivet]

feels old

[brave spire]

lol

[vocal rivet]

The first video game I played was typed in by hand.

[brave spire]

floppy disc games.

[cobalt canyon]

lemme see

[vocal rivet]

Floppy discs? Try cassettes.

[brave spire]

damn

[cobalt canyon]

Oregon Trail?

[brave spire]

i had the atari but meh doesnt compare.

[vocal rivet]

Lol, a) I'm not American and b) no, far too new.

[vital umbra]

iiiii didn't....quite mean that old 😅

2000s - 2010

[vocal rivet]

Huh?

Yeah, that's new to me.

[vital umbra]

more than a decade ago, constitutes as older to me, beeecause its in the past, 2015 and onward is new to me.

[cobalt canyon]

I wanna play some civ4 now

[vital umbra]

these games being old enough that i wouldn't have even been able to comprehend a computer until years after their release

games that are new are new lol, people are now saying valheim came out a super long time ago

[cobalt canyon]

5 years is old

It's sad

[rich ice]

I still have my Commodore Vic-20 stashed in a tote...

[vital umbra]

you old man

🗣️

[rich ice]

Yep. I have the grey in my beard to prove it, heh.

[vital umbra]

my childhood games were don't starve, starbound, team fortress 2 and battle for wesnoth.

[cobalt canyon]

Civ3, 4, WoW, GW2, the whole host of Wii games

[vocal rivet]

Heh, the Wii. The only console I've ever owned.

[vital umbra]

Those games came out during my childhood but my 'childhood' also had fallout 3-vegas, oblivion and the such, on a ps3, i supposed skyrim and red dead redemption came out at that time too.

[cobalt canyon]

There was something - oh yeah

Fun fact, if the sensor bar on the wii is broken or lost

Wax works just fine as a replacement

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, pretty much anything will do.

[cobalt canyon]

(I've got to try this at some point)

[rich ice]

I still play Mario on the Wii with my nephew. In fact, he spent his entire fifth birthday (a month ago) asking me when I'll play Mario with him.

[cobalt canyon]

Unfortunately mine is down a power cable at the moment so....yeah

(The NES lasted longer than the wii)

[vocal rivet]

The way of all things tech.

The newer it is, the shorter the lifespan.

[vital umbra]

never had a wii, got some random one from a dump and haven't tried it since, i think it has like wii party or something on it, i don't understand these things.

[cobalt canyon]

So there's this thing called a disk...

[cobalt canyon]

actually could you download games for a wii or did it have to be physical?

(physical media is king in any reality btw)

[vocal rivet]

Wii I think was always physical. Unless perhaps there was a physical mod you could do, but that was way outside my expertise.

[cobalt canyon]

I know it had internet connection, there was online play

[vocal rivet]

Oh wait, yeah. I see what you mean now. Then I'm not sure.

I didn't have a reliable internet connection at the time I was using it so I never tried.

[cobalt canyon]

Anyways, it wouldn't have it "on it" it would have it "in it"

as in the disk would be in there

[vital umbra]

why, my ps3 has games on it...i swear the wii had like multiple things in it that could run.

[hearty flume]

ok.. WHY is there so many 2 star enemies in the ashlands?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

[cobalt canyon]

Because there are so many enemies in the ashlands in general

[vocal rivet]

It's the penultimate biome, it's going to be tough.

[hearty flume]

And, the more people, the worse it's gonna be..

[vocal rivet]

Technically, but I don't think the cons outweigh the benefits when it comes to playing in a group.

[odd helm]

If you're seeing many 2 star enemies at once, you might either be exploring at night or around an elite spawner

[hearty flume]

We were 4 people dying at the same time..

[vital umbra]

less resources to go around, constantly running out of things for equipment i find 🐦

i didn't reaaally ever like multiplayer that much, i just liked to see my friends reactions to places and things they haven't seen yet

[tough ferry]

any tips for mass producing good quality food for mountaineering? just beat bonemass and i dont know how to get a lot of mushrooms and blueberries for some of the recipes

[odd helm]

If you take a look at sev's and I's sheets in the community tools pinned here, you should have plenty of options for swamps level food that you can take up to the mountains~

[light moat]

Sausages and onion soup 👍

[pearl drift]

Greetings

[graceful frigate]

how to cheese elder?

[cobalt canyon]

You can cheese a finewood bow easily enough

[gray sand]

Why need cheese?

[cobalt canyon]

speed Sev

[gray sand]

Just roll when he stomps. Take no damage.
Beat the crap out of him.
Very speed.

[cobalt canyon]

Wanna get that swamp stuff asap

Flint axe works for core wood btw

[tepid prawn]

campfires under his feet and or melee him with ideally bronze sword or other slash weapon

[vital umbra]

"spawn swordcheat"

[gray sand]

Wooden Club works just fine.

Killing him with Torches is especially fun.

[vital umbra]

wooden club against the elder sounds like ass

[shy marlin]

It's not that bad

[gray sand]

It does good damage at rank 3.

[shy marlin]

flint spear and club at level 3 are not to be underestimated

[gray sand]

Bronze Spear demolishes him due to attack speed.

[shy marlin]

ngl i've never even made the bronze spear

(atgeir and sword gamer) but i acknowledge spears are good

[gray sand]

Spears are my new fav.
Spears = Axes > Atgeir > Sword for me currently.

[vital umbra]

i find atgeirs to be awkward

[cobalt canyon]

I've killed cultists with a flint spear

[vital umbra]

i'm sure i could kill them with my fists but why would anyone want to do any of that.

[cobalt canyon]

I know of one guy you CANNOT kill with your fists

And that is Fader (I tried for an hour)

[errant knoll]

Honestly given the upgrade cost for clubs is bone fragments, all the way to level 4 is great tbh

[vital umbra]

why bro

[errant knoll]

Bone fragments aren't materials I fall short on

[shy marlin]

ya no way you're outpacing 420hp/min

[cobalt canyon]

Though that's not to say you can't kite enough lava blobs in to do the job for you....

[errant knoll]

Somehow that feels against the spirit of killing him with fists.

"I did it, but not really" 🤣

It's still quite impressive though

[cobalt canyon]

Might try again with Flesh rippers

Or if DN adds a new fist weapon....

[gray sand]

Depressing we didn't get to use Mandibles to make a seeker-based fist weapon in Mistlands 😭

[cobalt canyon]

I mean, if DN adds a new fist weapon it will shred Fader

[errant knoll]

Also, only just now realising you can use doors to edge build pieces and stations half metre distances

[cobalt canyon]

What if you kite a boss off the edge of the map? Will it die?

[nimble moss]

in what way?

[cobalt canyon]

....does its health go down to 0?

[hidden gorge]

trolls are usefule for more than just rocks

[cobalt canyon]

(oh the bow thing)

Finewood is around

Barrels & furniture in the Black Forest, can cut down Birches with other trees

[hidden gorge]

oh yeah, also shipwrecks

[cobalt canyon]

Somehow Lox can't do birch

[errant knoll]

The combination of moves the elder uses plus the arena fights him means you can reasonably use bows, fire arrows and running behind pillars for cover, and you can win. No need to build anything, no need for dodge or parry timing.

[cobalt canyon]

But berserkers can

[errant knoll]

Although it is just faster to get in melee range and smack the elder if you can

[cobalt canyon]

Anybody know?

[errant knoll]

I've never tried it lol

[cobalt canyon]

(No loot but eh)

[hidden gorge]

bosses have a leash range around their altar iirc

[cobalt canyon]

Catch them in between yourself & a cart and drag them out.

(Memes for days)

[errant knoll]

Imaging using an abyssal harpoon on a boss and dragging them to sea.

Is that even possible?

[cobalt canyon]

Knock them over there using windmills.

[hidden gorge]

console commands

[cobalt canyon]

Alright listen guys I have an idea

Alternative fast travel over water

See here's what you do:

greydwarf rocks propel you in the water, at no stamina cost

Need to trap the grey's in the water, at precise distances, while still allowing them to throw rocks at you

You jump in at one side, plink plink plink plink - you're on the other side

[elder glen]

Sad turns out there isn't black metal armor

[cobalt canyon]

is it bad that the only real obstacle to this is that you can't build in the ocean?

Ah- I got it

Birch trees float and can be stood on. Plus they don't break

So for every greydwarf you place, you have to have a birch tree stump raft

How do you keep the raft together? No idea

[vital umbra]

yeahh that has been a disappointment to me for years.

[elder glen]

Sad

[calm scroll]

theres padded armor for linen which is the black metal tier armor

[vital umbra]

thats not black metal armor.

[pearl drift]

tire, not plate

[vital umbra]

what

[calm scroll]

its still the same tier tho

[vital umbra]

idc i want black metal armor.

[errant knoll]

Tbh I kinda don't mind the lack of black metal armor, or how little it's used in general.

Makes me feel guilt free about using it to make storage space

But I can see why people would want it

[vital umbra]

we get this cool ass, wacky new metal exclusive to valheim and its uses are like 5 weapons and a chest, then you go back to using iron again.

[errant knoll]

It's green. The weapons are all kinda... blegh, to me

I'm just not a fan of how they look.

I don't know if I'd like that same shade of green on armor either

[vital umbra]

this still stands

[errant knoll]

My compromise would be this: heavy armor is primarily linen thread, with iron right? If they make a medium armor make it primarily lox pelt, but with some black metal

[vital umbra]

flametal was done wonderfully, a unique new thing.

Plus a shit ton of uses in comparison.

[errant knoll]

Since lox pelt also needs more uses

[vital umbra]

ofc

[errant knoll]

Could combine the 2.

What kind of set bonus would be good for the plains?

[vital umbra]

blunt resistance 👽...starred berserkers are fucking cracked.

[errant knoll]

Hm, could we justify lox pelt and black metal somehow being blunt resistant?

[vital umbra]

its not pierce resistant if lox are weak to pierce

[errant knoll]

I guess loxes are blunt resist right? But is that their fur or their bulk doing that?

[vital umbra]

their fur looks kinda bulky.

[errant knoll]

Blunt resist also helps vs gjall in the mistlands a bit right? Isn't their attack fire + blunt?

So it would retain some limited relevance in the next biome too

Dvergr rogues melee attack is blunt too

[shy marlin]

Please no blunt resistance would trivialize the game

[vital umbra]

organic waste is a surprisingly effective method of obtaining coal.

[shy marlin]

Pierce resistance is already absurd lets not add another

[vital umbra]

(i have way too many carrots but i need to level farming)

yeah well you know what maybe lox pelt is used for a mistlands light armor then, because fenris works in the plains just fine but the gap between that and the ask set is kinda big.

[errant knoll]

What about If its on the same piece that gives pierce resist so you have to choose before going out?
I'm often not wearing the pierce resist even though it's good because I can't stand the mismatched appearance lol

[shy marlin]

nothing would be stopping you from bringing the root harnesk and the new piece in your inventory and swapping them

takes like 2seconds to swap

[errant knoll]

Imagine you're in the deep north, getting swarmed by loads of enemies, both pierce and blunt damage are present

[shy marlin]

You're completely missing the point that being resistant to a damage type is just broken

[errant knoll]

In what universe would that be feasible? (Again, no idea that's how it would look, just a concept)

[vital umbra]

i feel like you're not going to get swarmed by loads of enemies and its more like theres a big bad here and a big bad there.

in the deep north that is..

[errant knoll]

I guess that could be what happens.

Like mistlands level of spawning but the enemies are all biggies

[willow pendant]

Whats with NPC's running/wandering off during combat? Is it like a retreat command that just doesn't work right sometimes? lol

[vital umbra]

if they can't reach you or something, you hit them too many times without them being close enough to attempt an attack.

which for some dumb creatures like loxen happens often with their silly pathfinding.

i don't think ranged or fast creatures ever do that, like archers or drakes or deathsquitos.

[vital umbra]

big beasts with fur

ice age-y

as long as its no more undead though....

[warm sandal]

Hm arent there undead in every biome except Mistlands so far? I feel we will get undead in deep north too just a different kind I guess. The misttlands seems to be the odd one out (though the most beautiful biome in my opinion)

[gray sand]

Given we are undead... there are undead in every biome we go to 😉

[rain flare]

Too much undead.
I’d prefer some variety rather than just getting more dead things

[gray sand]

Is the premise that Greylings are undead?

[rain flare]

Most of the dead things we fights pre-mistlands are your generic skeletons.
Then you get draugr but other than that it’s basically the same for each biome.

[gray sand]

Because otherwise Meadows is clear.
BF has them yeah with Skeletons.
Swamp ofc.
Mountains skeletons.
Plains... the only undead in Plains is Yagluth himself afaik.
Mistlands is clear.

[rain flare]

Grey dwarves are more tree people - technically they could be undead if you follow the lore

But they are a more interesting version of undead

[rain flare]

Meadows can spawn skeletons
Black Forest has skeletons, ghosts and technically grey dwarves if we want to follow that logic
Swamp is obviously lots of draugr, skellies and wraiths
Mountains have draugr and skeletons
Plains have Skellie spawns at night and obviously yags is dead
Mistlands is truly the only biome without generic undead skellies or zombie draugr
Ashland’s is over-run with undead skellies, Valkaries, and morgen mutants

Just so much dead stuff it’s honestly a bit much 😂

[gray sand]

Imagine being awake at night 😏

[rain flare]

2 star fulings give nice drops 🥰

[gray sand]

Those spawn during the day just fine.

[vital umbra]

I at the very least hope the theme isn't undead again, i don't really care if one or two enemies are

[rain flare]

More frequent spawns at night - you only find those in villages

[idle storm]

Once you get permanent frost resist there's no reason not to be awake at night. Might not necessarily want to do it in a new biome, but once you're geared up what's the issue?

[vital umbra]

hard to see

annoys me

[rain flare]

Yeah theme wise Ashland’s and swamp is basically death and decay
Death by fire or by rot

[gray sand]

"No reason no to be awake" uh... ok?

Love sitting there waiting for stuff to smelt when I could have it instantly happen by sleeping.

[idle storm]

you could just... do things while stuff is smelting?

[shy marlin]

“When the soul of a murderer or a great sinner rots under the ground, it makes a hollow cyst which draws rock and wood and moss to it. It gathers up the peat into flesh, braids reeds into bone and takes rags for skin. It should not walk but when the night comes it walks.” Greydwarves are semi undead beings, like you said

[vital umbra]

i don't wanna use a dvergr circlet, i don't want to switch to wisplight outside of the mistlands, i don't care to use torches.

[gray sand]

Love waiting 90 minutes for stuff to grow when I can do it in 60 by sleeping twice 😉

[vital umbra]

Sounds more like just something created rather than resurrected in any form.

[gray sand]

Cool.
I understand there are perfectly valid reasons to stay awake.

But don't come at me with the " there is no reason to sleep you stupid idiot who sleeps " bs.

[vital umbra]

Skyrim, Does using souls in soul gems to enchant weapons make the weapon an undead creature?.

[idle storm]

I think you're reading WAY too much into my comment dude

[gray sand]

"No reason" doesn't leave room for any interpretation.

[idle storm]

sure it does. It sure as hell doesn't even imply an insult, so that one's 100% on you.

[vital umbra]

Is seriously whatever this is happening right now, Its so boring.

[rain flare]

If I have stuff to smelt 😂

[rain flare]

But not true undead apparently, since spirit weapons don’t affect them 🤔

[vital umbra]

fuck i fucking hate growths, during yagluth seriously...

[rain flare]

I am glad I do not have that opinion 🤣
Evidently someone poked you with a stick at some point 🙈

[vital umbra]

@shy marlin 🧐

[rain flare]

Oh right….
Blobs also count as undead 🤣

[idle storm]

Seriously all i meant was "you don't have to sleep if you don't want to, the only reason to do it early game is because being cold sucks".

[vital umbra]

and because you cant see shit

Its is extremely convenient to sleep.

[idle storm]

Valheim nights aren't that dark if the weather is calm

if it's storming though yes, better just sleep through it

[vital umbra]

man do i want to build in 100% brightness or 60% brightness.

yagluth is such a sick boss fight as always.

way cooler than the queen idc what anyone says

[idle storm]

i thought Moder was pretty cool the first time i fought her.
Then she got stuck in one of my silver mining pits and the feeling went away 😂

[shy marlin]

Never played Skyrim

[vital umbra]

well thats just the concept of it anyways.

[shy marlin]

Isn’t the player character immune to spirit damage even though we are undead or am I misremembering (checked the wiki and the player is intact immune to spirit)

[vital umbra]

man, i know yagluth is mid game now but damn that feels cathartic to gave gotten out of the way, score one for the good guys.

this will actually be my third time in the mistlands....that feels weird.

anticipation can feel like ages and then you look back and wonder where the hell all the time went.

plains pie picniiiiiiiic

[tepid prawn]

Not sure if we are the good guys yet hahaha.

[vital umbra]

oh probably not, i want moder to be my friend.

[tepid prawn]

and Elder feels a bit like a LOTR ent, Eik is a majestic stag (hopefully we are good guys and they all have done terrible things sometime)

I don't remember all the lore

[vital umbra]

but i mean, bonemass thanks you, yagluth is just an evil wizard, the queen is a bitch, and fader was corrupted, its just the first two and moder that seem more iffy.

[tepid prawn]

Fader is understandable too (spoilers if I say too much more)

[vital umbra]

shrug, i think most active players have experienced it by now.

[tepid prawn]

there are a lot of players that haven't killed him yet

[rain flare]

We are immune
It’s different though, since our version of being alive is more a rebirth than being properly undead

[tiny tiger]

Eh I’m in no rush to kill fader I think it doesn’t make sense to until he has an actual drop

Then again I also haven’t killed queen yet either but I’m planning to on my current run

almost ready for boneless and then mountains and plains are a breeze

The new anti sting concoction will be so useful

[idle storm]

it's okay but groupers are a pain to farm.

[tiny tiger]

The what now

Oh it’s a fish

Oh god that’s awful I have to fish now 😢

Screw that then root chest piece it is

[idle storm]

pretty much my response as well 😂

[tiny tiger]

I get that they’re trying to push fishing forward but the convenience of root chest piece far outweighs its drawbacks and the inconvenience of fishing

Like it’s not even close

fire resistant wine is a lot easier to get

And the rest of wolf armor provides enough resistance to make the damage negligible

Like I believe you got around 60-70 defence with max root chest and wolf armor?

[idle storm]

i think that's really the main issue. Fishing is an inconvenience (to most players at least). It's not fun.
There are games with fun fishing minigames but Valheim is sadly not one of them.

[tiny tiger]

I’ve tried it before and the stamina is just bs like swimming

[idle storm]

it gets better once you get a few skill levels. Still boring though.

[tiny tiger]

On the plus side ocean fishing gives opportunity to get some serpent meat

[vital umbra]

i do find valheim fishing more fun than those mini-games in like arpgs where you just sit in one place and wait for a bubble to tap.

[vital umbra]

the awesome ass boss fight that is peak and the best of all the other fights in the game so far 🗣️

[rain flare]

And you get good stuff from fishing

[vital umbra]

yeahhh honestly what the fuck is fishing good for in torchlight 2

[rain flare]

I am addicted to farming trollfish for that MEAD! 😂

[gray sand]

They nailed fishing in this game.

It's exactly as boring as it is IRL 😛

[vital umbra]

its the most interesting fishing system in a game i have found so far, i don't hate it like all other game fishing i just dislike it 😊

minecraft fishing was soooo uninteresting to me, terraria fishing was a fucking NIGHTMARE slog.

especially the achievement to do 200 angler quests like seriously...

[gray sand]

Worst fishing is Stardew Valley by miles.

[vital umbra]

starbound did okay, far cry 5 fishing was actually pretty fun, i don't remember stardew valley fishing.

now that i remember it far cry 5 fishing was really fun

[cold elm]

ARK the original is of course the golden standard for fishing 😉

[opal torrent]

@grim flax

[fair cairn]

fishing in farcry 4 was killing the fish any means available and then dive in to get the corpse

[vital umbra]

was that demon fish

[fair cairn]

i think it was demon fish?
im not too sure on their name anymore

[spiral jacinth]

Used stuff my friend gave me and beat yagluth by myself (it was all mistlands gear full set of mage items and warrior armor)

[maiden oak]

Hey, would anyone care for an extra player? Not super experienced, I've only got about 70 hours but i'd be down for some homies to play with.

[opal prairie]

Morgen gjall.

[opal prairie]

#1024264966712340510 Is the place for that, make a post yourself or browse at your leisure.

[maiden oak]

got it, thankyou!

[remote lichen]

oh man, this game is so addicting
When i got destroyed landing on my first swamp, and then barely managing to make progress there (and hearing the plains and after that were worse) i expected to stop playing
But a couple days ago i reached the Mistlands and actually doing well there, very satisfying

[merry pebble]

Well get ready for swamp 2 after mistlands 😄

[remote lichen]

Swamp 2: Flaming Boogaloo
But i think im already used to get slammed in the face by the game at this point, im sure i will manage somehow hahah

[merry pebble]

Well it Is not as difficult as it was, but this mentality will almost certainly get you killed 😂 (but best of luck with mistlands and ashlands 😄)

[remote lichen]

Ahah i will surely die, but tbh im a lot more coward playing the game from what i may sound like. I just wont meltdown anymore as i did back in the swamp days
Thanks! Will do my best 💪

[merry pebble]

You got it!

[placid stone]

hello

[rocky widget]

pattern recognition is everything in this game. luckily its not as insane as say for example the souls games, since most enemies have 1-3 attacks, bosses sometimes have more. valheim is rather chill once you know the enemies. most times i died was to my own dumb self like running head first into ashwood spikes, fall damage in my own base after the food buffs ran out, cooking myself in ashlands water....that kinda stuff 😄

[rare sparrow]

That is way more funny when you don’t know them xD

[placid stone]

any recommended server? especially the one without mod?

[opal prairie]

I bet at one time a tree got you.

[rocky widget]

yes i think they jump everyone at least once

[opal prairie]

#1024264966712340510 Is the place to go for that, either post something yourself or browse at your leisure.

[opal prairie]

I think so as well, my first tree dead was memorable, a tree got stuck in another tree and when I cut down that tree it used me as a golfball.

[rare sparrow]

I once dodged a tree, rolling on my left… then the tree did the same, I was out of stamina

[rocky widget]

Tree: oh no you're not getting away this time

[placid stone]

most of them use mod? idk this game has mod :v

[opal prairie]

I will avenge thee brethren, for all our fallen comrades I will squish this puny human.

[opal prairie]

I wouldn't know, I play with my own buddies and have a vanilla server.
I just know that if you want to find people to play with that is the place to do it, you'll have the most chance there.

[rocky widget]

funniest tree death ive seen was a guy chopping a pine, the tree started to fall the other way, got somehow stuck on its own stump, slowly turned getting faster and faster and just played baseball with the guy that chopped it 😄 but i cant for the life of me find that short

[rare sparrow]

Oh, one of my friends killed a greydwarf with a tree

[rocky widget]

yeah that can even happen on accident

[placid stone]

okay then thanks man i'll give it a try

[rocky widget]

my tree farm outside my base has a decent kill count too and im just trying to get wood

valheim made me paranoid about trees, now everytime i chop trees in a new game i dodge the falling tree just in case 😄

[tacit crystal]

That reminded me on one incident when my group was cutting trees in new location for our base. One of us got whacked dead by a tree and he respawned in old location. He came back through portal, only to almost immediately from the portal getting whacked by another tree.

[rocky widget]

that poor sod 😄

i keep telling yall, trees in valheim are sentient and vengeful

[tacit crystal]

He was the unawarest of us back then.

[tacit crystal]

Yeah and new players are their favorite prey.

[errant knoll]

I'm scrambling to try and find that, i remember seeing it and thinking wtf xD.

[hasty grove]

The tree, the real first boss of Valheim

[hasty grove]

Also veterans, my character should have no intelligence left after all the logs to the head he survived

[nocturne wolf]

Most of my deaths now are to tree chopping and falling while building

[errant knoll]

Oh I don't build anything of any real magnitude without the feather cape nowadays lol

It's such a godsend for saving my mis-steps lol

[rocky widget]

true that

[opal prairie]

I went on a rampage against trees with the trollstav, I made a world specifically for that.
I was chopping trees in the tree farm and I hadn't eaten anything, it was just cutting some trees and wack tree cascade happened and I died.
I felt the need for some revenge.

[hasty grove]

I scaffold any wall building like a bricklayer until I get the cape XD

[errant knoll]

Honestly I used to really dislike building cause of the falling risk and needing to build loads of ladders to make the risk lower.

Feather cape has actually made building go from a tedious affair to one I actually find quite fun

[hasty grove]

I spend more wood on scaffolding than anything else once I'm building stone

[errant knoll]

Now that I'm actually trying it again. I think the falling was the thing that was killing the process for me

Also the "need to get around the outside to place wood iron beams that I missed? Oh well, just jump from the top and build my landing platform as I fall"

[tiny tiger]

Man I would love to rush feather cape is it feasible?

[cosmic igloo]

u need black cores so gotta do infested mines. also need black metal so need to kill moder. u can get soft tissue from those crates in the outside camps

[errant knoll]

Need 10 black cores from infested mines to make it normally, though you can do it with 5 by dismantling and reassembling crafting stations

[cosmic igloo]

ya just get 5

[errant knoll]

Infested mines are incredibly dangerous and I wouldn't go into one under-prepared personally. Or if I did, I'd have to move extremely slowly

[cosmic igloo]

can do it with some ooze bombs + iron atgeir

ticks can be deadly

[errant knoll]

Possibly. That makes it sound like you can just go straight from swamp to mistlands which, I guess you can. But that mist is gonna make it very hard, and unfortunate warhorn encounters on the way... haha, gjall you can never see

Don't want to think about it lol.

[cosmic igloo]

also stop by moder quick to cheese kill her with bonfires

[errant knoll]

Oh right it's actually impossible to get the feather cape without killing moder

[tiny tiger]

I’ll try get it after moder then

[errant knoll]

I completely forgot about that

[cosmic igloo]

tbh it sounds kinda interesting, id love to rush staff of embers

[tiny tiger]

You need need black metal? What for

[cosmic igloo]

galdr table

[tiny tiger]

Ohhh

[errant knoll]

One of the 2 crafting stations needs black metal.

Not the galdr table, the eitr refinery

[tiny tiger]

I see

[cosmic igloo]

galdr table 10x black metal, eitr need 5x

[errant knoll]

Galdr needing 10 is something o completely forgot lol

[cosmic igloo]

ya just get 10x and dismantle

[tiny tiger]

Well if I have time today I’ll hopefully get to mountains and then tomorrow I’ll try rush a lil to get that feather cape coz life is just a breeze at that point

[errant knoll]

Well tbh

Getting 15 black metal is quite trivial, though you'd be dismantling for the cores anyway

[tiny tiger]

Yeah dismantling isn’t an issue I usually do that with Bronze Age if I don’t manage to get 10 cores

[errant knoll]

Honestly feather cape isn't the only thing that makes building easier, there's something you can get in the ashlands which really speeds up the process too

[tiny tiger]

And I have a lot of coastal villages I can raid for BM

Demolisher?

[errant knoll]

Well there's things that gather resources quickly but not talking about those.

Talking about Stone Portals

[tiny tiger]

Ah yeah

[errant knoll]

No longer do you need to sail about with your iron everywhere

[tiny tiger]

Do you only need 1 in a pair of portals as stone portal?

Or is it only one way then

It’s a shame the metal portal is so late into the game, you need it most around iron-silver age imo

[errant knoll]

It's only one way, but one way often works well enough. And you can do things like use it, go back, dismantle and replace with a regular portal

Notably all the resources for a stone portal cam go through a regular portal

[tiny tiger]

that’s good

[opal prairie]

This, you can step into the stone portal with metal and get out of a normal portal with metal but no the other way around.

[tiny tiger]

I see

I’m planning a big iron crusade today, wanna hopefully find bog witch too, from what I’ve heard she’s likely to spawn in the bonemass swamp?

[opal prairie]

I have a stone portal in the base that is a blank, so I can quickly connect a portal to it if needed and even take things trough again if needed.

[opal prairie]

Any swamp that hasn't been explored will do.

[errant knoll]

Only thing wrong with my method of temp stone portal then replace is you need to dismantle the stonecutter and bringhthat back before you get rid of the stone portal which means you gotta break it with tools

[tiny tiger]

I’m gonna try exploring the surrounding islands to my base and hope I find haldor too, my base is right next to hildir so it would be really convenient, and I know there’s an unexplored swamp across the sea

[errant knoll]

Also needs a stone portal setup the other side of course (or some iron on your person to begin with) to make the stonecutter in the first instance

[tiny tiger]

Yeah probably makes sense to carry a stack of each metal on boat still then

At that point you’d have drakkar too with its huge storage

[errant knoll]

And I think stone portals you do kinda need to use sparingly

[tiny tiger]

How come

[errant knoll]

As far as I'm aware one of their resources is non renewable

[tiny tiger]

Oof

The cores?

[errant knoll]

I could be wrong on that, and you do get enough to make loads of portals so it should never be an issue

[tiny tiger]

Welp my breaks over cya guys after work

[errant knoll]

But I think the molten cores are non renewable yes, so it IS a slight consideration

[tiny tiger]

are black cores non renewable?

[errant knoll]

I think so, again I don't know that for sure

[tiny tiger]

I’ll check after work

[errant knoll]

I've never encountered black cores in any capacity that would convince me they're renewable.

Again the world should have plenty enough to make it not a problem

[opal prairie]

Yeah, molten and black cores are non renewable but there are quite a lot to be found all over the place and are only ever used for their specific purposes.
So once you have 10 black cores you don't really need more.
Molten cores can be used up as long as you just keep 2 available for that stone portal you really need somewhere.

[errant knoll]

But they're not things you can just set up a farm for and grind out

[nocturne wolf]

There’s only a limited amount of black cores to use as fireworks

[fallen zephyr]

If you don't have iron, you can get bars from destroying doors in Frost Caves

[errant knoll]

Or you can do temp wooden portal and smelt bars on site in mistlands or swamp

[tacit crystal]

Or demolish a viaduct/bridge looking building in Mistlands for already processed Iron for immediate use.

[errant knoll]

That works too I guess.

I have a weird hangup over destroying existing architecture that you can build around I'll be honest, but then I'm never going to build around most of them lol

[idle storm]

Considering one of those aqueducts gives 2-3 stacks of iron and 4-5 of black marble easy i got over those hangups the moment dismantled the first one

they're insanely profitable to take down

[pseudo yew]

why the game has alotta players? did they release a new biome or smth?

[near furnace]

alot of players?

Bog witch update came out rescently. but nothing major besides that 🤔

Could be other games have either been finished, and players come back to the comfy valheim experience

[errant knoll]

For me it was having not properly played since before mistlands and saw the bog witch update, thought it was s good time to replay and see where the game was

[pseudo yew]

had 20k last time i saw it

[pseudo yew]

oh ok

[tacit crystal]

Nice, so you have had all the new experience on those new biomes, minibosses and Bog witch at the same time! I envy you a bit.

[rocky widget]

for me it was the bog witch update that made me return (and the fact i have been too lazy to kill fader yet) and now that thats done im jsut chillin building. trying to work up the courage to start a grausten castle

[errant knoll]

On the other hand, I never got to experience pre nerf mistlands/ashlands

So I haven't been able to see everything, everything

[rocky widget]

ashlands was kinda sus on release, almost killed me the moment i stepped foot on it

[errant knoll]

I've heard seekers ai was more relentless than they are now

[rocky widget]

cant say, i only started after mistland was released

not sure if pre or post nerf, but i didnt survive my first foray xD

[errant knoll]

Apparently they used to just chase you rather than do thag circle running thing they do between attacks now

[rocky widget]

i step through a portal, instant 1 star soldier

but that wasnt the worst thing that could happen cause dying to that thing twice forced me to "git gud" real quick

[errant knoll]

1 star seeker soldier sounds like a nightmare before you get mistlands gear

It's more of a time waster than anything else after, but am annoying one

[rocky widget]

oh its definitely not how i imagined my first visit 😄

[errant knoll]

My first experience was running through a portal with ticks jumping on me as I stepped in.

I died screaming on the other end of the portal lol

[rocky widget]

luckily no mist cause the guy who set up the portal had tapped roots there so he set up wisp torches

lmao

what a way to go

[errant knoll]

This was before I figured out dodge rolling shook them off

[teal matrix]

Nothing brings more dread than realizing you dont have the stam to shake off those clingy things

[errant knoll]

Or you do, but then you have no stamina to run, creating an endless cycle from which there is no escape

[teal matrix]

Fun fact, you actually don't need to run from ticks

[errant knoll]

Thank God for the staff of embers

Makes killing them so easy

[teal matrix]

Depending on your gear, ofc, you can walk away from them and they'll just keep missing their leap

[errant knoll]

Depends partly on the slope. If you get caught near the bottom of one of those steep slopes that go into a body of water, you're in for a bad time lol

Those are absolute death pits, nothing fills me with more dread than trying to farm yggdrassil wood and the log falls down there

[cosmic igloo]

ya the aoe from that staff is so generous

S tier weapon

[errant knoll]

It's very good.

I love the staff of fracturing too, I like that when I set out a task the biome I'm visiting usually informs what staff I'm taking lol

[opal prairie]

I love the staff of the wild.

[errant knoll]

Have yet to built it, had no luck with the gemstone for it yet

[cosmic igloo]

i think wild staff might just be the best weapon in the game

its tough because weapons serve niches but its just so OP.. idk what would rival the OPness of it, maybe protection staff?

[errant knoll]

Protection staff is a weapon just as much as shields are weapons

Not sure i would count that as a weapon personally, though its also very good

[cosmic igloo]

ya ur right, well offensively wild staff might have the crown then at least

and it hitting harder when u turn up difficulty is just funny

[errant knoll]

That's brilliant lol

[cosmic igloo]

magic overall is just so unbalanced, like when u reach mistlands and get magic gear, the feel of valheim drastically changes

imo

[errant knoll]

I get the feeling that's what they were going for when they made mistlands though. Every new biome so far has been majorly different from whats come before

And while magic is strong, the punishment for messing up is high

[cosmic igloo]

so tough to mess up

[errant knoll]

It is tough to mess up, because of thag bubble

[cosmic igloo]

like compare messing up a parry or messing up a dodge roll

ya bubble OP

but also you just stay at range and knockback enemies with fireballs over and over

all stamina is used for survival, instead of attacking

[errant knoll]

Imagine if instead of 40% current hp bubble cost 40% Max hp, so that you couldn't use it endlessly while on low hp?

And it just wouldn't work if you don't have the health to use it

[cosmic igloo]

ya thats how i assumed it worked at first

[errant knoll]

I think even then it's probably still an op weapon but maybe less

Or maybe when the shield breaks you get a debuff that prevents staff of protection working on you for about 30 seconds to a minute.

Disc priests in wow used to have a similar thing where power word shield couldn't just be used endlessly on the same target

[cosmic igloo]

ya

[errant knoll]

I haven't played it recently but I remember that

[nocturne wolf]

At least it doesn’t repair when recast, so it has to break eventually if you want to heal it

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, only the timer starts again.

[steep fable]

@cerulean badge

[arctic meteor]

Where do i ask for mods? (not mods help or something. Like a discussion about modpack)

[merry pebble]

#mods-discussion 🙂

[arctic meteor]

Thanks. Missed it

[bright crag]

can it rain in the ashlands? like is it possible to get the wet debuff there

[shy marlin]

you can go for a short swim in the ocean around the ashlands, and the rain in the ashlands is more like a dust storm

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, and you want it to be only a short swim.

[cosmic igloo]

just arrived in swamps undergeared to get some quick root chest. 3x draugr archers 2x skeleton archers 3x leeches (1x 2 star) 1x abom

hmmm...

on very hard

oh yea and also 1x slime

[opal prairie]

Its the slime that did it, its always the slime.

[pliant hatch]

Don't tell me you don't like a hot bath to wash all that ash off of you every once in a while......

[pearl wasp]

LETS GOOO

me and @wheat terrace are officially married in valheim

[tacit crystal]

It's too hot for my liking in Ashlands.

[silver oracle]

got any tips before heading to the mountains?

[tacit crystal]

Frost res mead.

[pliant hatch]

Make sure you got enough stamina to run away.
Don't jump down, but slide on the sides to save stamina.
First building you encounter and seems strong enough, use it as a shelter / portal house.
Building campfires along the way may help you to warm up once in a while when your frost mead runs out.

Oh and don't enter the frost caves while wearing the Root Harnesk. 🔥

[idle storm]

run up the sides of cliffs, don't jump unless you have to. Jumping costs much more stamina.

[tacit crystal]

Being sheltered also protects from freezing effect while you remain cold if no mead active.

[tiny linden]

yes! don't do that

and don't go at night

[candid basalt]

Fire hazard on makes starting fresh interesting with first wood house builds

[echo wind]

Don't get hunted

[silver oracle]

huh

wdym "don't get hunted"

[echo wind]

It's an event that can happen randomly

[idle storm]

mostly it's just a way to easily farm coal imo. Sure you have to factor it in when building your fireplace but once you've done that that's it.
Surtling raids can get a little spicy though.

[tiny tiger]

You may get swarmed by wolves so just be careful lol

[rocky widget]

"there's a smell of sulfur in the air"
did you mean *free surtling core delivery"?

[opal prairie]

It's the accent, makes it sound all weird.

[elder glen]

why not double bog witches, double trades double states

[near furnace]

they would fight until only one remained

[elder glen]

Oh...

[fickle urchin]

i just made three feast
||but i don't anyone to share it with ||

[tacit crystal]

Eating them alone let you enjoy them longer. 😅

[elder glen]

any flex farming tips

[tacit crystal]

You mean flax and barley? Same adds as the other crops except you can only grow them in Plains.

[elder glen]

yes flax

[rocky widget]

you can put them really close together so you can farm a lot fo them even with a small field

[elder glen]

ohh needed this one, like 1cm gap?

[tacit crystal]

So, open sky, on cultivated area, not too close to each other or structures and in Plains biome. Protection with walls or moat recommended.

[plush umbra]

50 cm, half a meter

as opposed to the usual full meter

[tacit crystal]

Walking by toggling C enables easier planting for each row.

[rocky widget]

hold on ill dm you a screenshot

[mossy fiber]

So if I were to record a video of my friend's castle build, where would I send it for a build of the month entry? It's amazing, but I know he'll never get around to it

[merry pebble]

I believe it was always done on twitter 🤔 but i may very well be wrong

[elder glen]

Oh tyty

also what's the point of the hot tub

[tacit crystal]

+2 comfort when it's on

[elder glen]

how to on it

[tacit crystal]

Put fire on fireplace

[elder glen]

ohhh

[rocky widget]

yes it holds 10 wood at the back, you can see it runs out of wood when the bubbles stop

[nocturne wolf]

You can also put fish inside but they escape very easily

[elder glen]

it toggles on and off by it's own

[merry pebble]

You need space for smoke to escape 🙂

[rocky widget]

i punched a skeleton in its stupid bony face and im not even sorry

[nocturne wolf]

What did the skeleton do?

[rocky widget]

it broke one of my standing dvergr lanterns while i was busy paving a road

[rocky widget]

theres probably easier ways to cook fish tho

[light moat]

Good reason tbh

[opal prairie]

Grab some tin foil, put the fish on it, put some citron slices in its belly, make a little pocket so you can put things in, pour in some white wine, garlic, onions, paprika powder and chunks, some tomatoes, green beans, basil leaves, salt and pepper.
Put it into an oven for half an hour to an hour depending on the fish you used.
While that is doing its thing make some mashed potatoes.
Plate up and serve.

[rocky widget]

we found the chef

[light moat]

I’ll have to write up and share a recipe of mine for you Judge 😁

[opal prairie]

Just someone that loves cooking and experimenting with food and drinks.
My brother is the chef.

[royal tendon]

Why is my 1* ask hatchling taking constant 5 dmg every tick?

[light moat]

Is it raining?

[royal tendon]

Does it rain in ashlands?

[vast jolt]

yes, ashes

[royal tendon]

And that damages it?

[light moat]

Wasn’t sure if the hatchling was in a different biome or not 🤷🏼‍♂️ I think regular rain damages them. Unsure about ash rain personally

[royal tendon]

Ahh okay

I got no other reason so ill try to make cover and see if it helps

I just realised there was 3 of them and only one took dmg, clearly being wet, like how tf do you get wet in the ashlands lmao

[wintry valve]

is it possible that the lava leviathans of my world are bugged? Its been three I mine away and none decided to dive

[cosmic igloo]

whats a lava leviathan

[light moat]

I’ve had similar experiences, I thinks it’s just RNG 👍

[light moat]

Flametal spires

[warm sandal]

lucky you... i mined three and two sank the third is still there

[rocky widget]

all of mine sank how do you guys get so lucky?

[cosmic igloo]

oh

[wintry valve]

My game did get corrupted once, so I really wonder about me being lucky

[tacit crystal]

They have now only 1% chance to start sinking, it was 10% before.

[wintry valve]

oh... that explains it

[tacit crystal]

Very small chance but never a zero.

[tacit crystal]

Hey, that happened to me too once. 🥲

[cosmic igloo]

just 1%?? damn lame that they changed it, i didnt feel like they dove all the time

[hidden gorge]

its less about luck and more about speed -- if you can clear the spire quickly (even better if you've got a friend working together) you can get the ore before it sinks

[warm sandal]

I never managed to mine one speedy...there is always something respawning that i killed before that wants to kill me ... so two times i had to stop and kill stuff and when I turned back the spire was gone (heard the rumbling noises but had to do something about the valkyrie before it killed me)

[tacit crystal]

I usually take those Flametal spires that are near the walkable ground. Sometimes they are bit under the lava but you can actually be in lava when you are on the Lavaiathan like this screenshot shows: #screenshots message

[wintry valve]

Oh! lava is sticky!

[rocky widget]

huh, guess the lava is floor now

[tacit crystal]

Only if you go too deep it starts to hurt.

[sonic bear]

did they say when they are doing the main valheim release

[rotund parrot]

@sonic bear Nobody knows, not even themselves, we may have an idea based on history for a rough estimate but it will be released when it is ready to be released. They don't want to impose deadlines upon themselves at the detriment of the final product

[merry pebble]

When the deep north comes the 1.0 will be the same update, and no we dont know when that will be 🙂

[pliant hatch]

Yeah. Once 1.0 is released.
Which is after the Deep North is released.
Of which we don't know when that'll happen, though.

So you do the math.

[shy marlin]

Deep north and 1.0 are the same thing, they've stated this 🙂

[sonic bear]

Okay thanks guys

[merry pebble]

Yep, in last devblog iirc 🙂

[nocturne wolf]

We’re hoping to make it a proper 1.0 package with new things to discover in early biomes as well.

[sonic bear]

did they say like if it will be this year or next year?

[nocturne wolf]

It will definitely not be this year, bog witch and ashlands released too recently

[shy marlin]

No timelines but honestly don't expect anything till 2026

[cosmic igloo]

holy fuck ive been sailing for maybe an hour now just looking for swamps with cryupts LOL this seed sucks

[fallen zephyr]

Trust the law of averages. There's a swamp island out there with something like 18 Sunken Crypts on it.

[cosmic igloo]

think ive sailed more looking for swamp now than the entire playthrough on my other world

[cosmic igloo]

ya there better be...

otherwise spawn iron 1000, dont think i wont 🔫

[trail pelican]

2026 seems the most reasonable rough wild guess to me--it seems like the "average" time between large updates that add/finish biomes (and granted not a TON of precedent) is a year or a year, and I think it's reasonable to assume since they've said they want DN to be the 1.0 release, that anything ELSE not exactly related to DN but high enough on their 'would like to do' list they probably will work on and try to get done to release either as a mini-update before DN/1.0 or along with it(while they also have explicitly they haven't ruled out post-1.0 updates, the vibe I get is they would be comparatively smaller updates, fixing bugs, and minor additions/polishing, stat tweaking for balance, and such)

and reasonably that probably means at LEAST 1 year if that's the average for "just" a new completed biome and LIKELY more than a year, for/if (as seems at least very plausible) anything additional beyond that

[fallen zephyr]

My favourite part of recent Valheim updates is the focus on introducing content that allows us to feed multiple players, while ignoring the horrible syncing issues multi-player has in late biomes.

[tiny tiger]

Do leviathans ever resurface?

[merry pebble]

Nope

[tiny tiger]

Rip

Well I got 25 at least should be enough for a harpoon

[fallen zephyr]

Nope. Would you?

[merry pebble]

I think you need 30 iirc 🤔

[tiny tiger]

Well the barnacles are like a infection no

Aw man I hope I find another one the way to bonemass

[fallen zephyr]

Uhoh.

[nocturne wolf]

You can leave before they finish sinking to reset them, if that hasn't been patched

[tiny tiger]

Too late for that I’ll just have to find another eventually

No serpent shield for me for now oh god a serpent is chasing me

[fallen zephyr]

I can give you a work-around to the harpoon if you want.

[tiny tiger]

Holy the bone mass swamp is huge

[nocturne wolf]

If you kill it near land you should be able to reach the scales with a ladder

[tiny tiger]

Let’s hear it

[fallen zephyr]

Even in open ocean, if you can kill a serpent with a bow while you're jumping from your ship (edit: ...onto its head), you'll be close enough to it on death to pick up the scales and trophies before they sink.

Easiest with an arbalest, but it can be done with a bow.

[willow pendant]

Anyone know if the Eikthyr Knit Sweater runs small or large?

[rocky widget]

the what now

[willow pendant]

https://valheim.store/products/valheim-eikthyr-jacquard-knit-sweater?variant=45423385051300

[rocky widget]

lol ok thats funny as a christmas sweater

[fallen zephyr]

I'd hope that a knitted sweater doesn't run at all.

[merry pebble]

You have a chart and sizes on the site tho

[willow pendant]

Yeah but that doesn't always mean accuracy, I'm a medium but I think I'm going to go with the large just in case because its cotton too (which shrinks)

[light moat]

Depends on what region you’re from- when I get clothes I usually expect them to run small (I’m from USA)

[rocky widget]

well they do give you the cm of the various parts

[willow pendant]

Ha ha I mean it has the power of Eikthyr so it may run off

[rocky widget]

also, my security program does NOT like the valheim store

[merry pebble]

I mean, the chart gives you the exact mesurements it seems 😄 but i would also go with size larger, especialy for sweater since i like those kinda baggy

[willow pendant]

Yup you guys are right

[rocky widget]

"this web site is absolutely not trustworthy" bruh its just a merch store

[cosmic igloo]

dude i still havent found a valid swamp

what is this..

[fallen zephyr]

It's only five minutes. Catch it on the cool-down.

[light moat]

I will say, as a guy who’s working clothing before, sometimes those charts can be a little off 😉

[rocky widget]

im sorry WHAT? https://valheim.store/products/valheim-mistwalker-greatsword-replica?pr_prod_strat=e5_desc&pr_rec_id=a5a6bd631&pr_rec_pid=8509305356452&pr_ref_pid=8509318463652&pr_seq=uniform

[fallen zephyr]

JFC.

[merry pebble]

Will take your word for it 😄 i dont have much experience with sizes of clothing beyond the classic S, M, L,...

[merry pebble]

Yeah 😄 there are replicas of some in-game weapons

[willow pendant]

Dude you think thats cool, the battle axe glows

[cosmic igloo]

the wooden tankard looks pretty nice

[rocky widget]

smiffe! is that a joke? are you guys actually selling mistwalker replicas?

[light moat]

Oh yeah, it’s real!

[willow pendant]

https://valheim.store/cdn/shop/files/CrystalBattleaxe3.png?v=1714057948&width=600

[pliant hatch]

I do hope it actually removes the mist for that price. Otherwise it's just a scam. 😄

[rocky widget]

i am so tempted but jesus that price tag

[fallen zephyr]

May I suggest that, if you're seriously considering purchasing a replica Mistwalker for over USD$1,200, just make a donation to something that has meaning for you.

[light moat]

I really want the Frostner necklace lol

[tiny tiger]

I severely overestimated the amount of progress I’d get done today

[fallen zephyr]

Welcome to adulthood.

[tiny tiger]

Got a portal linked up to bonemass altar, still need hella iron tho before I take him on, and the swamp isn’t as big as I thought it was, 2 crypts and a plains cutting through a lot of it

there are at least 2 islands opposite the swamp that are also swamp tho, plan is to tp over resources for a longship then haul all the iron I can back to base about 20 minute boat ride south

Hoping the two adjacent islands have more crypts and bog witch but I’m gonna go have a nap now and maybe play another hour or two later

[fallen zephyr]

Are you running a no-portal game?

[tiny tiger]

Nah I got standard portals so no metals

[fallen zephyr]

Nobody boats for 20 minutes.

[tiny tiger]

the closest bonemass to my base is this one it’s 15-20 in the smaller boat

[fallen zephyr]

That's a lie. I've boated much longer than that. I was deluding myself. Apologies.

[pliant hatch]

I doubt that.

A lot of players create the Drakar and sail south, only to discover that the Ashlands are 3-4 ingame days sailing away.

[tiny tiger]

I did go slow for the last 5 tho circling the island if the wind is in my favour should be able to boat back south in around 10-15

My base is situated around west of spawn halfway to world edge and this bonemass altar is north westish probably fairly close to where mistlands begins to appear

I guess it doesn’t feel like 20 minutes when you boating but I tracked with my food timer and it was around that

plus I had a quick detour to grab some chitin

[fallen zephyr]

I recommend portal hubs. I have a central base, and build mini-bases at the main compass points approx. 2/3 of the way to the edge of the gag flat earth gag that have like 8-12 portals.

[tiny tiger]

yeah in the future my plan is to have a bunch of coastal outposts from Ashland’s to deep north

that’s a good 50 hours away at least though lol I also have yagluths spawner located already got lucky with my base island having a marker nearby

No moder yet but I’ve not been to the mountains

[cobalt canyon]

I mean if you want to keep the biome intact you're going to want to keep a bit of distance from DN

[fallen zephyr]

Don't get too close, though. I tried to prep for Ashlands by building a decent base in southern Mistlands and the game update broke my world to the point of un-useability.

[tiny tiger]

yeah I won’t explore north of north mistlands

[tiny tiger]

That’s an L

Still a long ways away from mistlands anyway lol

I have 300 hours in the game and like 200 of those are on a character that is about halfway through mistlands tier

[fallen zephyr]

The only L is for 'learning'.

[tiny tiger]

I’d love a terraria like feature of being able to have villages with actual inhabitants

[cosmic igloo]

i use 1 portal and then have signs nearby that list my portals so i just change name to where i wanna go

[odd helm]

Doesn't the deep north also have its sea barrier from the rest of the world like the Ashlands now?

[plush umbra]

yepp and i didn't notice when that happened

because i vaguely remember the ashlands update initially not doing that but maybe i'm misremembering

[trim cedar]

oh dear, not looking forward to that lol

[tiny tiger]

by ship barrier you mean like how the Ashland’s waters break any ship that isn’t drakkar?

[cosmic igloo]

no its fine, they are just ice blocks u sail into and they get destroyed

[odd helm]

Halfway through PTB iirc

[cosmic igloo]

barely damages your ship

[odd helm]

Probably not like that in the DN, I just mean a large space of ocean

[tiny tiger]

Ah

[odd helm]

So no more continents that might get destroyed on update

[cosmic igloo]

DN = deez nuts btw

[trim cedar]

so no big jagged rocks that my ship will get wedged between haha

[cosmic igloo]

ya unless they change

i suspect they might change so the ice blocks do a bit more dmg to the ship

[fallen zephyr]

What is that? Seriously?! The game is like, "Hey, you can't use your longship to visit Ashlands, we'll burn it (and you) down!" Then you build the new boat and you have to navigate a forest of stone spires - not to mention the voltures and bonemaws - and then land at a coast swarming with charred enemies and probably at least one spawner. Are we going to need a new 'icebreaker' ship to reach Far North?

[cosmic igloo]

ikr

icebreaker does sound cool tho

[plush umbra]

would feel too repetitive, i doubt they'll repeat the same progression gate back to back

[odd helm]

I dunno if there will be an environmental effect that'll force you to use a better boat to be fair, I was just talking about the physical ocean separation

-# I mean the drakkar can probably double as an icebreaker capable ship

[fallen zephyr]

Yeh, I didn't expect anyone to know. I just find it troubling that the devs seem to be erring on the side of 'increased difficulty' and forgetting that games are supposed to be fun.

[trim cedar]

atleast in the ashlands you can see.... unlike the mistlands

[odd helm]

That is very subjective~

[fallen zephyr]

The 'fun' part, maybe, but navigating stone spires in a slow-arse ship to reach the coast (when compared to an agile ship and minimal obstructions to the coast) is objectively more difficult

[tacit crystal]

It definitely was the Ashlands update.

[plush umbra]

well yea, certainly not bog witch, i just meant which particular ashlands build

[keen cliff]

i fucking hated getting to ashlands beach for the first time. god that sucked. i think it will be RNG though. "Do you end up with a good path to navigate the spires? or do you get fucked and trapped by accident."

[fallen zephyr]

"Big slow boat that endures heat" is ok. "Navigate coastal obstacles" is ok. To do both seems excessive.

[plush umbra]

isn't it the same speed as the longship and just looks slower because it's so much bigger relative to the distance it covers?

[foggy glacier]

Same. I actually sailed the whole edge of Ashlands waters and marked down any paths where I could see trees unobstructed. Then I looped back and just YEETed the Drakkar in there.

[light moat]

At least you only have to do it once theoretically lol but I don’t know, it was a super cool experience for me. I enjoyed it lol

[fallen zephyr]

It might be the same speed, I'm not sure. It must turn slower, though, yes?

[plush umbra]

no idea, something to test later if i remember

[foggy glacier]

I've heard here before that Drakkar top speed is slightly slower than longship.

turn speed is garbage, as you'd expect for a floating tank.

[idle storm]

The trick to easily navigating the drakkar through the spires is to row backwards. Much easier than going forwards since you can actually see what's in front of you.

[plush umbra]

according to the wiki at least, the longship and drakkar are identical in speed

[foggy glacier]

might be acceleration that's slower then.