valheim-chat

[vital umbra]

so as soon as you defeat eikthyr and have just a raft you can get the razor

[errant knoll]

You'll nab less chitin from the leviathan before it yeets

[vital umbra]

they're not that rare..

I kinda get an excess of chitin in most playthroughs....just looking for haldor and hildir and all the bullshit sailing that sometimes entails....

[errant knoll]

Not really, it's just as likely you'll find first leviathan before first swamp.

Heck I had a nightmare finding my first swamp on my current seed.

[fading dew]

i never really sail long enough to find a leviathan before bonemass, and id rather just use a mace in the swamp regardless

[errant knoll]

Plains absolutely everywhere, but no swamp

[acoustic panther]

I think my GD farm with wolfs is working to well XD

[vital umbra]

...well yes...pretty much...but if you're doing a knife playthrough...

[fading dew]

the razor goes crazy

[merry pebble]

Not really, you can get lucky and see one or if you purposefully change your sailing routes slightly to explore more of ocean than you normally would at early game 🙂

[errant knoll]

Knives are equal in damage vs the draugr and if you've been fighting mostly with knives up to that point it's probably a high combat skill. Knives levels really fast

Fast strikes with low stamina use and all that

[fading dew]

yeah i can see that

i never use anything but the flint spear early game tho

[errant knoll]

Flint knife works very nicely vs trolls too

[fading dew]

i imagine.

[rotund parrot]

Knife combo takes 1.5 seconds, minimal knockback, not much stamina at all, you will go through anything with them very efficiently

[fading dew]

its just the secondary on the spear is too good to pass up in the meadows and BF

[merry pebble]

Club goes hard 😄 and bow is also great (if you get lucky and find a shipwreck at BF beach you can get even finewood bow really early)

[errant knoll]

In a "normal" playthrough where I'm not going for a specific build and just want an efficient early game flint knife, club and finewood bow tend to be the 3 weapons I build early on, with ideally abyssal razor to replace flint knife, but copper knife if I've not found a leviathan while sailing.

After swamp is cleared i usually start building different things and pivot based on what I feel like doing

Yes this does mean I'm running after deer to start but it's fine lol

I've tried many different things at the start but that trio of weapons just seems to get things done way faster for me

[gray sand]

I don't think I've ever picked up a knife that wasn't the Butcher Knife.

[rotund parrot]

Would never skip the crude bow early it just makes hunting deers so much easier

[gray sand]

Can be skipped if you make the Spear instead.

[errant knoll]

Deers ai is stupid and you can use that to catch them easier

[gleaming musk]

Just make the fenris set and run after them 👍

[merry pebble]

You can hunt them naked with a knife if you want 😄 (so you can skip the spear AND the bow 😛 )

[errant knoll]

My usual method though is to kite a troll into the meadows and use them as birch cutting slave labour lol

Cheese my way to a finewood bow lol

Only need to melee kill at most 2 deer that way

[sage quiver]

BF shipwrecks and forts also provide finewood. I definately go flint knife with my light characters. Flint axe is also good tho. I usually skip stone axe.

[errant knoll]

Axeless till bronze.

Who needs to build excessively? Just take over a friendly neighbourhood abandoned hut

(Tbf skipping flint axe probably is a bad idea lol)

[nocturne wolf]

I use flint axe for burial chambers

[keen cliff]

i haven't done early game in a while, but i'd probably stick with flint spear/club until iron weapons. workbench + deconstructing buildings may or may not be enough wood for early game

[vital umbra]

more people that skip bronze weapons for silly strange reasons?

[acoustic panther]

I mean it feels like a waste. Cause you can beat the elder without them then your on iron

[vital umbra]

and you have copper every single where you turn in the black forests of the world 👽

...mannn i dunno if i wanna build a base....thats kinda a waste of wood guys....you need it to craft like arrows to kill drakes 🫨

[keen cliff]

it's because flint spear and club upgrades are OP. you don't need bronze weapons. I'll make bronze buckler. Not to mention that for bronze you need to mine more than one ore, so it's just more work.

[gray sand]

Bronze spear ftw.

[vital umbra]

Mfs be speedrunning in their casual playthroughs

[keen cliff]

you play the game your way, and not be an asshole about how people want to play their own? how about that?

[gray sand]

NO.

This is Discord.
We must fight.

[keen cliff]

Seriously.

[vital umbra]

Breh i don't give a fuck what you do in your playthroughs but if you're going to try and argue why its the way to go and i disagree with it then i'm going to say why

[keen cliff]

A bunch of prepubescent jerks who like to shit on anyone else if their opinion is different on how they want to play a single player game.

[gray sand]

Whoooaaaa now.

Being a jerk is not age-restricted.
That was uncalled for.

[keen cliff]

True on that.

[vital umbra]

Like seriously, You don't wanna talk about it then don't engage in the first place dude.

[keen cliff]

There's a difference between discussion and ridicule. And you don't understand the difference apparently.

[vital umbra]

👍

Very productive conversation

[marble delta]

Does Black Marble have better ‘integrity’ than stone?

[gray sand]

Very yes.

[keen cliff]

yes. higher max suppoert. and less horizontal loss

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Building_stability

basically black marble build pieces are 50% better structurally, compared to stone

[vital umbra]

☝️ what the heck do you need bronze for, fermenters, crom, a karve, and a couple of building materials, maybe sconces if you're not just using iron or wooden ones, i don't see why people are so worried about it, iron is the thing you don't wanna waste as far as i can see..

[keen cliff]

if you want to have a civil conversation about it, from my perspective it's simple: bronze requires copper+tin. more work than other ores. I'd prefer to minimize grinding those specific ores. Plus, late game, there are way more sources of copper and bronze that are easy to find. So from my perspective: build a fermenter, karve, yes. Bronze bucker, definitely. But the earlier weapons can carry me into the swamp easily. Late game, when I want to build with copper/bronze, or do other stuff, I can get those metals easier.

[vital umbra]

Mmm i was really just thinking out loud / to the general demographic that i have seen deciding to do this.

[patent wren]

I think that makes sense. I wouldn't recommend it for a new player, but if you've been around the block and can get by with less repetitive harvesting, why not?

[keen cliff]

Yes. I didn't do this on my first playthrough. First time playing, no idea what I was doing, I maxed all bronze armor, some weapons. Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't do that.

[gray sand]

Why not?

Because this is Discord.
We must FIGHT.

[vital umbra]

That has more often than is pleasant been the case

I get everything bronze, i just don't level it up, i level my skills with them typically..

[vital umbra]

Isn't that fun, People like to escalate things.

[keen cliff]

That's great. It's certainly viable and I bet you have fun. You'll notice I'm not calling your approach silly and strange.

[sonic eagle]

I have a couple spare hours if anyone wants a hand making a first building that has excellent storage and can grow as you get more matts, corewood, stone

[vital umbra]

It is what it is, You have the right to call me any word in the world, thats free speech, And i have the right to react however i feel about it in turn.

[keen cliff]

You actually don't have any rights like that here. It's Discord. There are plenty of rules against "American free speech".

[patent wren]

8/10 wordplay, though I am docking a point for repeating it verbatim

[keen cliff]

Both the discord company rules, as well as the Valheim server official rules.

[vital umbra]

I didn't quite say i was talking about that explicitly.

[keen cliff]

Okay, how about this: I think you're a silly person who doesn't even try to have a civil argument in good faith. You'll latch on to key words to try to "win" an argument. And then cry foul if you're called out on what you actually say.

[vital umbra]

Civility is the first option typically.

If one or both parties turns to name calling the path really only devolves.

[teal matrix]

I typically enjoy putting random words that sound like name calling is more fun personally.

[vital umbra]

Atleast that would be more subtle

🤔

If someone doesn't care to discuss their personal playstyle then why do it, Its certainly uninteresting to me at that point, And whats the point of discussing such things without having my own take, Thats just small talk.

what?

[rotund parrot]

Probably the later

Definitely the later

[vital umbra]

I don't know what you're talking about anymore

now what just happened

[rotund parrot]

At least I am not completely gone!

Was worried repeating what you said would get me banned, definitely would have if I didn't use the same abbreviations

[hidden gorge]

this is a videogame discord server. it's all small talk

[vital umbra]

splitting the hairs of split twice over hairs are we.

[gray sand]

Why Odin make hairs splittable if they not meant to be split? 😛

[vital umbra]

what are you talking about

[rotund parrot]

My messages just got censored

[vital umbra]

Well i rather trust the staff of the server so...

I would assume thats not the worst thing, In regards to whatever is going on right now..

[vocal rivet]

Well, that'll be auto-mod.

[vital umbra]

That's fine too, They're set up a certain way, I know about them.

[rotund parrot]

Those type of censored messages would be censored instantaneously, no?

[vocal rivet]

Within a second, yes.

[rotund parrot]

Then it's not auto-mod

[vital umbra]

✨

[near furnace]

Trust the staff to do...?

[vital umbra]

whatever happens to be right 😆, in a fairly open-ended manner.

[near furnace]

well.. this is valheim-chat. so stick to topic 🤔

[gray sand]

Cats.

[near furnace]

idk. I just looked in here before going to bed

[vital umbra]

hi

[keen jacinth]

Yo, does someone have a game I can join rq just to make sure I can connect to online games over my internet?

[nocturne wolf]

#1024264966712340510

[random kayak]

I just leveled up my Bronze axe to 3 just so I can chop wood faster

[light moat]

Very nice!

[random kayak]

It still does less damage than my flint spear 😭

[keen cliff]

Flint spear is amazing, that’s why.

[gray sand]

Bronze spear ftw.

[random kayak]

Okay nvm my axe does more damage but it's really slow

[digital nexus]

guys, does the water from the sea damage stone structures? (i'm making a harbot for my boat and i was wondering if i can place a stone ladder to make things easy)

[random kayak]

No

From my knowledge the stone should be unharmed

[gray sand]

Stone is immune to water.

[random kayak]

God the axe is so slow but it deals a good amount of damage, I find it hard to attack when I'm slower than my enemies and they manage to get a hit off. It's like I'm playing RuneScape 😭

[gray sand]

One-handed axe is faster than most every enemy attack.

[kindred sun]

hi

im debating whether to craft the porcupine or pass on it 🤔

[gray sand]

Your world. Do what you, personally, feel like doing.

[azure yacht]

Pass on it

Just go for frostner which will be more useful in plains, mistlands and even ashlands

[kindred sun]

bet

[gray sand]

Allowing others to dictate how you play the game is always a viable option too 🤷‍♂️

[steel mica]

i know that wolves do pierce dmg but in general is it even worth to craft the iron chest piece just for a little bit more boost of 4 defense (quality 4 iron armor gives 20) when i can get the root harnesk with both 14+ and get a bonus for it with pierce resistance

[kindred sun]

just getting opinions because ive always used 2 handed weapons, like the bow and crystal axe

[steel mica]

generally just play what you like or are comfortable the most

if you like 1 handed then go with 1 handed, if you like 2 handed then go 2 handed choose your favorite

personally i like the krom even tho i havent even gotten to mistlands just the thought of holding a giant sword is not only badass but deadly aswell

my last save was already maxed out plains equipment ready to fight yagluth

[random kayak]

My bronze age experience so far

80% mining
10% making smithing outposts
5% wood chopping
5% misc

[steel mica]

you might need a bit of help from a certain blue lad

if you cant get a blue unarmed lad have fun mining

[random kayak]

I died 3 times to a troll. Mostly because it's my fault because I didn't dodge correctly

[steel mica]

just eat 2 health food and 1 stamina

[random kayak]

Actually no 2 times to a troll and 1 catacomb incident where a single room had 20 skeletons

[steel mica]

you should survive one hit from a troll

[random kayak]

I do 2 stam and 1 health because I can do no hits

[steel mica]

but not the second

[steel mica]

same stamina too good

[random kayak]

I died a few minutes ago because I just woke up and effed up my dodge 😭

[steel mica]

only time i switch to 2 health and 1 stam is a dangerous area like the swamp and mountains

[gray sand]

HHS when entering new biome.
HSS when I have biome-level food.

[steel mica]

just practice you'll get the hang of the trolls attack

or make a tiny base just far from the dig site

so u can make a bed and respawn

[random kayak]

I've killed 5 without any problems it's just when I'm washed I tend to mess up

3 no hits and 2 getting hit once

The 2 were annoying tree type trolls that use giant logs that have a faster attackspeed

[wide zenith]

Sooo.. max lvl for ashland armor is 2?
Or i will discover new upgrade for black forge later

[vital umbra]

is the inclusion of multiple characters in the animated trailers and key art just for dynamics and funsies or is there semi-canonically multiple vikings in a group that go through the story of valheim, even if the focus is solo play

[vital umbra]

...The question is do you want the porcupine?...because every weapon can be made to work lol...

People have very weird ideas about progression and meta, I think it is completely fine to just follow the roughly intended progression of the game biome by biome.

if you haven't used a weapon before i say do use it to try it out for yourself....i never used to like atgeirs until i did that.

[nimble aurora]

anyone noticed a decrease in serpent spawns? idk they seem harder to find now

[nimble aurora]

believe its lvl 3 max currently, although elemental weapons can only go up to 2

[random kayak]

I don't know if my game is bugged but the physics are not physicings

[vital umbra]

aye

otherwise flametal armour wouldn't really be worth it....except thats a lie, because it looks so fuckiing cool.

[nimble aurora]

id say stick to the frostner, as the slow effect is generally more useful especially into later biomes. ive always been a swords guy personally but the porcupine is less useful as seekers will resist the blunt and the pierce from it.

[vital umbra]

Bahh i know people are obsessed with the thing but i always use equipment food weapons and armour based on the biome i just came from no matter wut..

[nimble aurora]

i love how the flametal chest looks but like...root harnesk is actually broken, i use it from swamp and for the rest of the game

[vital umbra]

....yeahhh i cannot bring myself to do that...

[nimble aurora]

also love how you dont need either bit of siege equipment to loot a fortress, thats really funny lmao

[vital umbra]

As soon as i get to mountains its wolf armour or fenris, plains padded, mistlands carapace then eitr-weave later....so on and so on and so on..

I don't like using things from way earlier unless i'm doing some specific challenge or speedrun, and the root harnesk i do not like the looks of with my other things.

[nimble aurora]

true, it doesnt look anywhere near as good. i miss the wolf chest piece because it looks so awesome but the pierce resistance is useful throughout the entire game

[wide zenith]

Berserkir axes good for chopping trees? Or regular axe better

[random kayak]

Real, in my playthrough I'm going to be using weapons that I haven't used so I will actually skip a frostner and go with the silver sword

[vital umbra]

i totally and utterly cope with whatever effects the current tier of armour happens to have.

It just feels right.

[random kayak]

I tried spears for the first time and wow they're FUN

[vital umbra]

they're alright depending on the situation.

[nimble aurora]

if you have the flametal then yeah. im actually not sure if they have the same tool tier as blackmetal

but they definitely do more dmg to trees

[nimble aurora]

i love the silver sword but 40 silver for the initial craft is actually insane

and 20 for first upgrade

u need like an entire silver vein just to get that thing to lvl3

[random kayak]

I can chuck em and then pick em and it's so funny

[nimble aurora]

moreso pierce resistance for me, but flint spear and knife combo is goated for black forest

[random kayak]

I like to use the technique "eff you newton" and dig around a silver vein and watch it pop

[vital umbra]

i am just using black metal for chests rn and all i've gotten from them is the shield so far lol...

I reaally wish there was like...black metal armour, it would be so metal, pun intended..

[wide zenith]

They should be higher than blackmetal, since even Jotunn Bane above

[vital umbra]

spikey ass, orc looking black metal armour..

[wide zenith]

I will have flametal later tho

[nimble aurora]

ah ok didnt know that, i assumed they would be higher but im not sure

[wide zenith]

Yea, still waiting for light armor for Plains
They should add freaky blackmetal goblin set

[random kayak]

MMORPG fantasy female armor

[wide zenith]

No

[nimble aurora]

lowkey, i reckon make it with lox fur and linen thread, and maybe the full set bonus makes fulings neutral and you can barter with them for items like you can with piglins in minecraft

[random kayak]

You said freaky

[wide zenith]

Not that freaky

[nimble aurora]

thats really the only way to do it xD i just hate when theres another rock in the way

[random kayak]

Nothing freakier than a game designer for an MMO thinking it's a good idea to make bikini armor

[nimble aurora]

WOW reference goes crazy

[wide zenith]

I think it would be good if armor have some blackmetal parts, 'cause we using it only for weapons, and using metal from 2 biomes back like wtf

[wide zenith]

Yea, i hate those

[random kayak]

I genuinely have no idea why it's a thing

[wide zenith]

Goons

[azure yacht]

Why would they trade with the one that's literally going to kill their god-king?

[lunar sapphire]

They don't know what we're about to do...

Until He is slain

[nimble aurora]

its just a thought, piglins instantly de-aggro if you huck some gold their way

[azure yacht]

I'm sure that getting into their villages to steal their resources and more particularly the totems whose purpose IS to summon their king should be a subtle clue

[nimble aurora]

maybe each fuling camp has like a separate reputation similar to dvergr

[lunar sapphire]

potato totempole 🤷

[wide zenith]

They kinda watching from neighbour island how you obliterating they're king and then like "yea we'll trade some stuff with u"

[nimble aurora]

well all light armors have set effects

idk what else it could be

[random kayak]

They should add light armor for the plains except it's the hide from those big cows and then some string from the flax

[wide zenith]

Big cows 😭

[lunar sapphire]

Lox is a salmon and cream chesse bagel

so cow is appropriate

[wide zenith]

I didn't said otherwise, it was just funny

[lunar sapphire]

Village witch sniped and perishes into the void.
"What was that? let's go check it out"
"Oh it was just a bush, back to business as usual"

<-- Me in my trollhide armor/clothing

[nimble aurora]

yeah thats what i said lmao

[random kayak]

Died of natural causes

[lunar sapphire]

for sure

[nimble aurora]

troll armor in plains is mad ballsy

[lunar sapphire]

It's my go to

[random kayak]

He must have tripped on an arrow

[wide zenith]

Blue bush in the middle of yellow biome

[random kayak]

And then fell head first on another arrow

[wide zenith]

Usual stuff

[nimble aurora]

all my homies hate fuling shamans

(im a root harnesk enjoyer)

[wide zenith]

Root set buff adds bow skill?

[random kayak]

Small amounts of black metal to act as plating

[lunar sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/930781747568840724/931850860047265852/ezgif.com-gif-maker_50.gif

[nimble aurora]

yeah? it does

[wide zenith]

I used it long time ago, that's why i asked

[nimble aurora]

yeah it does, i think its like +15 or something

[wide zenith]

Skill bonus on sets always +15 iirc

[nimble aurora]

yeah coz fenris is +15 to fists

[random kayak]

We should have a terraria crossover except they just add the terraria hurt sounds and nothing else

[nimble aurora]

sidenote, ive been sitting in the entrance to an infested mine for 20min, a 2 star gjall is holding me here and i have like no supplies

[wide zenith]

We don't have cooking set tho, right?

[nimble aurora]

noooo we dont

[wide zenith]

That's sad
Farmer one was good

[nimble aurora]

id also like a fishing set because the hat is a joke and by the time you actually get it you dont need it

farmer set is crazy good yeah

[random kayak]

There's a farmer set?

[wide zenith]

Hildir sells it

[random kayak]

No way

[wide zenith]

It came with bog witch update, i guess

[random kayak]

What's it called?

[wide zenith]

Harvest*

[nimble aurora]

pretty sure you need to return all 3 chests first tho

[random kayak]

Harvest?

[nimble aurora]

am yet to test that but i gave her just one and it didnt show up in the shop

[nimble aurora]

havest dress, tunic and hat, u only need 2/3 to get the bonus tho

[wide zenith]

Harvest Tunic/Harvest Dress + straw hat

[nimble aurora]

also can i just say how much i love troll endurance mead

[wide zenith]

Or it's just 3rd one?

[nimble aurora]

im not sure, i dont think the wiki says anything about the specifics

[random kayak]

Damn, I didn't know the Bog witch was chill like that

[nimble aurora]

we fw bog witch so hard

[wide zenith]

Few new potions are good

[random kayak]

My racism for greydwarves is now over

Bog witch is my best friend

[nimble aurora]

never

i hate those things, nothing worse than tryna fish and getting pelted by rocks

[wide zenith]

Have you reached Ashland?

[random kayak]

I haven't even reached mistlands and ashlands

On my first playthrough I only ever reached the plains and I was basically making a cozy encampment

[nimble aurora]

twitcher rocks are less annoying imo

[nimble aurora]

troll, beserkir and ratatosk are so good

[nimble aurora]

just tested it, you do need all 3 chests to unlock it

[random kayak]

Maybe it's just me but I find making small bases REALLY cozy. Not super big that it's encumbering but just something really nice and snug. Big bases really... Put me off? Especially the effort to make one

[nimble aurora]

im currently on my 4th post-ashlands playthrough lmao

[nimble aurora]

i like making villages of small houses instead of one massive base

[wide zenith]

Dunno, their spawnrate is insane and those fucks irritate me more that greydwarfs

[plush umbra]

i make loads of both~

[nimble aurora]

their rocks do pierce dmg...root harnesk laughs

[wide zenith]

Yup, meant those exactly

[wide zenith]

What? why

[nimble aurora]

yeah true, beserkir + bonemass is actually op

[nimble aurora]

no idea, ask irongate coz it doesnt make sense to me either xD

[lunar sapphire]

I love this

[random kayak]

Yeah my smithing outpost is sandwiched between two black forests though unfortunately they're not super near each other. It's a small and cozy settlement. Though unfortunately because it's just an outpost I don't have a house LMAO 😭

[nimble aurora]

hugin is such a dick to munin bro what

[random kayak]

Just a very small encampment with a side roof on the side to keep away the rain

[plush umbra]

hugin spontaneously became kind of a dick in general since mistlands

[wide zenith]

What about hugin?

[nimble aurora]

true but like "my lesser brother" is crazy like show my dude munin some respect

[random kayak]

Maybe his brother might be in another form

[plush umbra]

no pre-mistlands tips were that mean :c

[random kayak]

I dunno this is a Norse game with a talking raven so I dunno

[wide zenith]

Lmao

[random kayak]

Maybe lower rank?

[nimble aurora]

i mean thats not rlly pre-mistlands, thats the tip that shows when you make a wisp fountain but i get your point

[nimble aurora]

munin skill issue fr

[plush umbra]

yea, no pre-mistlands tips.
this is a mistlands tip.

[nimble aurora]

ah okay my b

[random kayak]

He might be a lower rank hence he says that because if hugin's job is to guide the souls then munin probably does something menial

[nimble aurora]

i always have forge, kitchen, living quarters/comfort room and storage as 4 separate buildings

[plush umbra]

just feels like their idea of hugin's personality changed a little between mistlands and whenever a tip last gave him that much room to speak before then

[random kayak]

Either way... PLEASE GIVE ME A HUGIN PLUSHIE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS

wait is there a HUGIN PLUSHIE?

[plush umbra]

idk but i'm dying for a good crow or raven plushie anyway

[nimble aurora]

i have a raven ring that looks rlly cool

like raven skull made of some metal (im not sure)

[wide zenith]

Btw i found jade in fortress
In there like different stones in diff fortresses?

[random kayak]

Wait a third-party company named "Grimfrost" who makes Viking Jewelry and merch made a Huginn plushie

[nimble aurora]

no its completely random, ive found fortresses with all 3 stones and fortresses without any

[nimble aurora]

instant purchase incoming

[wide zenith]

Yea, i meant random spawn for stones
Sry

[random kayak]

Oh I'm stupid... They're based off Huginn and Muninn the ravens of Odin and information finders

But in Valheim they're missing an N 😭

[harsh steppe]

This game is great at teaching concepts; I was taking apart a Bridge structure generated in the Mistlands, saw that in between the stones was reinforced with Iron Bars, tried using that mechanic on my base build with stone, could make stone roofs that span my basement

[plush umbra]

yea the spelling was changed because there is no objectively correct spelling i'm pretty sure 😅

[gray sand]

Huginn annd Muninn the ravenns of Odinn? 👀

[plush umbra]

not in modern english at least

[nimble aurora]

yessir

[random kayak]

Modern English is silly

Bomb and Tomb are pronounced differently

[nimble aurora]

lowkey it would be cool if the light was dependent on the stone u find, but alas

[wide zenith]

Light?

[nimble aurora]

shame thats not shown til late game but yes

[nimble aurora]

like the massive green beacon that comes out of fortresses

[wide zenith]

Oh, that one
yea, it would be nice

[nimble aurora]

it would be cool if the green light meant there was ONLY jade

and a blue light for iolite etc.

[random kayak]

We need an update where I can pet huginn

[onyx pier]

Thay would be cool

[wide zenith]

We need update where they add 3 missing creatures in meadows
duh

[onyx pier]

Maybe a craftable treat to attract him

[nimble aurora]

yeah i want more livestock

coz rn we got boars and chickens, i need something like midgame

[plush umbra]

i support this, all corvids deserve pets

[nimble aurora]

mountain goats maybe?

[onyx pier]

Yessss

[nimble aurora]

vikings had cows, pigs and coats

goats*, fml

[onyx pier]

Or a squirrel. Like that mythical one that I cant remember the name of rn

[nimble aurora]

ratatosk?

[gray sand]

Ratatoskr

[onyx pier]

Ye

[nimble aurora]

maybe squirrels in deep north forests?

[random kayak]

Nah they just need to add Kharn from Warhammer 40k as a boss

[nimble aurora]

nah surely we could use goat horns and milk

[onyx pier]

Omg yes

Kharn all the way

[wide zenith]

This mythical fuck runnin on Yggdrasil roots

[random kayak]

Mortar and pestle
Grind them
Start smoking them

He's high

[onyx pier]

Or just a random encounter post dark woods

[nimble aurora]

i rlly hope they stick to the lore for deep north

coz theres multiple dreams and runestons that say its a frozen forest

[random kayak]

They should just add Zeus as a cameo

and a very small soundbite of Kratos saying ZEEEEUUUUUUUUUUSSSS

[onyx pier]

Hes the dark figure that shows up I thought?

[nimble aurora]

zeus us unfortunately greek my boy

[wide zenith]

Odin

[onyx pier]

O wait that's doin nvm

Odin*

[nimble aurora]

and the thor easter egg when its storming is cool too

[onyx pier]

I still havent seen that

[nimble aurora]

ive got 1100hrs and have seen it maybe 5 times...

so yeah its just a little bit rare

[onyx pier]

I think I'm only like 400

[wide zenith]

Harvest set gives you +25 btw
I was wrong lol

[nimble aurora]

oh dang

bonus yields

also i found out that the crafting skill give you bonus yields too

[wide zenith]

Man i love bonus yields

[random kayak]

They should add the freaky update where it's just one patch of being able to hold hands with other players 👉👈

[wide zenith]

Yup. Cooking too

[nimble aurora]

i didnt know until i went to craft one padded helmet and it gave me 2 lmao

[nimble aurora]

its lowkey best for cooking tbh, especially mead bases

[onyx pier]

Hows the cooking give bonus? Extra buff or amount?

[wide zenith]

Cooking speed and % for bonus yield, afaik

[onyx pier]

Ah

[wide zenith]

Yess

Farming is good, but cooking
I love it so much

[nimble aurora]

i dont think it gets super high, i think it maxes out at like 15% for bonus yield at lvl100

[wide zenith]

And i still wanna cook set 😭

[nimble aurora]

yeah fr

give us an apron or something

[onyx pier]

An apron would be lit

[random kayak]

We need more hats

[onyx pier]

A chef hat

[nimble aurora]

also i wish bonus yields were proportionate. like for crafting, if i get bonus yield on making iron nails, id like to get an extra 10, not just 1 lmao

[random kayak]

The Bog Witch Update 2: Odin's Boogalo

[nimble aurora]

chef hat and apron, fishing set from hildir

[wide zenith]

Isn't fishing hat gives you fishing bonus?

[nimble aurora]

coz i like the novelty of having to change outfits depending on the situation, otherwise im just using my armor

[onyx pier]

I'd like some sort of option to grab a fish when reeled in close to shore instead of dragging em

[nimble aurora]

yes, but thats massively late game coz u need one of every fish in the game to craft it, including ashlands and deep north which are literally opposite ends of the map

[wide zenith]

I'd like to shoot fish with harpoon

[nimble aurora]

you can grab them but the range is actually miniscule

[onyx pier]

Or being able to wear clothes under armor

[onyx pier]

Or arrows

[wide zenith]

Or catapult

[onyx pier]

Lol, screw you fish... BOOM

[random kayak]

Dynamite fishing

[onyx pier]

You hear this devs... hire us cuz were geniuses

[random kayak]

It's okay devs, Odin will just make us more fish

[nimble aurora]

also i NEED a deposit option into like kilns and smelters and shit

like let me hold E and put 20 coal in at once pls

[onyx pier]

Fr

[nimble aurora]

or like shift+E

[onyx pier]

Or a hopper to auto load

[nimble aurora]

thats all this game needs imo, just like minor QoL shit like that

[wide zenith]

18 comfort is max for now?

[onyx pier]

Sounds right

[nimble aurora]

believe so

[wide zenith]

Sad, i want 30mins rested buff

[nimble aurora]

true yeah

i think u can get comfort 20 with yule tree and maypole

but thats still only 27 min

[wide zenith]

Already have those, maybe i'm missing smth

[onyx pier]

I always forget rugs

[nimble aurora]

maybe its 19 max

have u got lava lamp from ashlands yet?

[onyx pier]

Do banners give comfort?

[wide zenith]

Yea, i removed that, didn't knew it gives comfort

[nimble aurora]

yes

[wide zenith]

1 and they don't stack

[nimble aurora]

yeah its +1

it might be 2 but i think its 1

[wide zenith]

1. I just checked wiki

Okay, now i maxed
26mins not enough tho

[random kayak]

Bro is so comforted that he'll never leave the house

[onyx pier]

Ye, weird number. But maybe they're planning more stuff in the future till we hit 30

[wide zenith]

I guess. There should be comfort stuff from DN and maybe some little update in between

[wide zenith]

Me irl

[random kayak]

I just imagine your Viking lying in bed rotting because "just a few more minutes..." And then sleeps for another 3 hours

[onyx pier]

I've thought it would be cool to have a placeable board game of some type. Something you can actually play with another player when bored

[wide zenith]

We have dragon bad, but i want some sick af big jotunn bad

[wide zenith]

Yes!

[onyx pier]

Imma drop that in suggestions rn lol

[nimble aurora]

absolutely they are

[onyx pier]

Didnt vikings have something like chess irl?

Had to check. They had a few bit the common one was called hnefatafl

[random kayak]

I think people just played "Farkle"

[nimble aurora]

also i need a hare trap because hunting them is fucking annoying

[onyx pier]

O fuck yes

[nimble aurora]

ive stopped using my bow and have resorted to ooze bombs coz its so much easier

[onyx pier]

Like a baited snare trap

[rain flare]

I remember their being something like that where you have a king and several pawns, while you enemy only has pawns surrounding you

Your job is to work your king off of the board through 4 safe squares on the corners or something like that

[onyx pier]

Yeah

[rain flare]

Has anyone here tried the troll tap 😂

It works surprisingly well if you chase the hare into it

[onyx pier]

I havent played since the portal bug. Annoying as shit

[nimble aurora]

yeah fr just throw a carrot in that thing and wait a bit

[nimble aurora]

??? is this an xbox thing?

[onyx pier]

Would be cool to use different bait to attract other animals too

[onyx pier]

Yeah, we also got stick drift and some inventory issues

Bog witch really screwed us up

Which sucks cuz I really wanna play rn

[nimble aurora]

ohhh yeah the stick drift

i did hear bout that

[onyx pier]

I'm kinda lucky cuz I only got the portal naming bug but the way I explore is portal dependent so I'm still screwed

We did figure out a work around but you cant use it quickly in a pinch

[harsh steppe]

Getting random bonus harvests from foragables is more cathartic than I should probably be enjoying

I guess I'm a simple bitch; put a little ping noise and give me an extra mushroom and I'm happy

[nimble aurora]

also why doesnt the asksvin skeleton build piece give comfort

[nimble aurora]

nah im with you on that, monkey brain happy

[nimble aurora]

do u have the portal setting that lets u teleport metals etc.

update: back to the swamp to get iron for the 457th time despite being well into mistlands

[harsh steppe]

oh, I found a fairly good source of Iron, I had to make several trips to cart it off myself

In the mistlands, in some world generated structures like the broken bridge ruins, there are iron bars sadwnitched int between to the stones to reinforce it to make it stand up

In the case of the bridge, if you smash its two main supports and it's not touching other geometry, the whole thing will come crashing down and you can get a lot of iron without even smelting

[wide zenith]

You can farm iron in Mistlands

[harsh steppe]

They mentioned that, for one reason or another it sounsd like they arn't inclined too

maybe their gear isn't up to snuff

[wide zenith]

Sry then

[nimble aurora]

i know, but i dont like setting up a smelting area in mistlands when im already refining eitr

i find it more enjoyable to sail with a ship full of ore back to my meadows base near spawn

[harsh steppe]

Don't we all

[nimble aurora]

true

[merry pebble]

If you dismantle bridges in there then you don't have to smelt anything 😉

[nimble aurora]

i know that, but then id still have to ship it back to my base to actually craft with it since i cant take it through portals...

[merry pebble]

That Is true 😄

[odd marsh]

<_< hmmm dismantle bridges you say

[rotund dust]

I learnt a valuable lesson today. A Flametal Ore pillar, is like a kraken/levithan thing... except, it sinks into lava, and you lose your body completely. RIP everything.

Devs are funny trolls

[high lynx]

will backstabbing damage still apply if other player alerted the enemy?

[lapis fox]

I think so

[nimble aurora]

im not sure, do you mean if the creature is currently alerted? because if so, you cant backstab an alerted enemy regardless of who alerted them. there is actually a backstab cooldown too. enemies will deaggro after 1min, but you cant backstab the same enemy within 5min of each attack.

[rain flare]

No - backstab is not truly “backstabbing”

It is a multiplier that affects enemies that don’t know you or any other players are there

[nimble moss]

Backstab would be far better if renamed “surprise attack” or similar. That way players understand the mechanic and what it means.

Literally nothing about hitting enemies from “behind” applies to it.

[vital umbra]

its literally just sneak attack lol

[crisp lake]

So I've got this world I'm playing with a few friends on but I kinda want to try some mods on a solo playthrough, is it possible to download mods and still play vanilla with my friends?

[rare ibex]

yeah

use thunderstore

and when you want to play with your friends load through steam

[crisp lake]

does it have the same mods as nexusmods has?

[rare ibex]

it should have all of them

[gray sand]

#mods-discussion

[harsh steppe]

I'd like to place a restraining order; I was fine with ||Odin|| watching me when I was exploring the plains, but now he's peeping on me while I'm in my base

[lunar sapphire]

Classic

[vital umbra]

subject, hi red named person

[nimble moss]

The only reason I don’t think it should be renamed “sneak attack”, is that sounds like you need to be sneaking for it.

So “surprise attack” has no links to other existing mechanics.

Either way - not “backstab attack”.

[opal prairie]

Morgen gjall.

[vital umbra]

hiya

[fallen steeple]

15 nights already still no 2 Star Wolves only 1 Star

[kindred bronze]

If your viking looks like your profile pic here you don't need any wolves 😄

[gleaming musk]

Man the wolf raids keep killing me 💀

[nocturne wolf]

Use Bonemass power and bring healing mead and stamina/tasty mead

[wicked snow]

Conspiracy theory: What if the flat earth that is Valheim has an opposite side and on that side we have another 7 biomes?

[kindred bronze]

you mean 9? 😄

[wicked snow]

hold on counts on fingers Meadows, Black forest, Swamp, Plains, mistlands, ash lands, deep north, ooh I missed mountains

[kindred bronze]

and ocean

[wicked snow]

I treat ocean as sort of the filling between all of them

but yeah

maybe another 8 biomes submerged in ocean?

that'd be a lot of work for the devs

[nocturne wolf]

The developers have said they don't plan on adding content after 1.0, so no more biomes past deep north

[kindred bronze]

just make it all dark and call it "shadowworld" or something... Glad that valheim isn't made by EA otherwise we would need to buy the mist- and ashlands DLC or a shadowworld Addon 😄

[wicked snow]

yikes! It'd be the sims 4 all over again

[near furnace]

that's completly false 😄

removing the comment so no youtubers think you got some "massive leak" 😄

[kindred bronze]

sad 😄 but I'm happy as well... would be pain to fight on a boat 😄

[near furnace]

indeed 😄

or your boat just casually breaking apart, 10 players all dying in the same place if you're maximum numbers..
so GL HF trying to corpse run that 😄

[opal prairie]

Making 10 boats to go fight that would also be a pain.

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/fleet-wow-look-mass-boats-gif-12248570

Yeah. boats required to take on a measly ocean biome boss 🤔

[nocturne wolf]

Another problem with an ocean boss is that it would be a lot easier for players with high bow skill than it would be for players with more melee skill.

[kindred bronze]

Ashlands-Spoiler: ||I heard some people put catapults on ther ships so the bow skill wouldn't be a thing. Rather the overall progress.||

[gray sand]

Boats? You mean Rafts?

[nocturne wolf]

The only enemy in oceans is balanced to be killed with black forest equipment so an ocean boss probably wouldn't be that late in the game

[kindred bronze]

yeah, which makes sense since you have to travel the ocean usually after black forest or swamp if you got a lucky seed

[random kayak]

Is making a bronze pick good?

[gray sand]

Good is a point of view, Anakin.

(I say 100% yes, others will tell you 100% no.)

[wicked snow]

Better than antler thats for sure, every next pick is better than the last

[nocturne wolf]

You could make an iron pickaxe as soon as possible and skip the bronze pickaxe

[random kayak]

I can't get an iron pick because I'll be stuck for a while mining

[wicked snow]

Yes, and in case someone wants to save metal and go for antler, remember it cant break silver

[random kayak]

And also expanding the base to house crops

[random kayak]

I have... An ungodly amount of bronze

[wicked snow]

You playing alone?

[plush umbra]

neither can bronze, you gotta make iron either way

[random kayak]

Yup, no friends

Well I have friends just no Valheim players among them

[gray sand]

I vote you make the Bronze Pick.

[plush umbra]

oh sev

[wicked snow]

That explains it, with people youd mine the heck out of the world. 3 of us deforested the black forest to make a base. It's the black plains now

[opal prairie]

I'm with the make bronze pick camp.

[gray sand]

Sorry...

i vote you make the bronze pick

Is that better? 😋

[wicked snow]

We powered trough to iron fast so we didn't need it

[plush umbra]

oh shush

[gray sand]

😁

[random kayak]

This is better than the US election

Bronze pick time 🗣️ 🔥

I might also max it to 3 LMAO

[opal prairie]

Poll: make bronze pick axe.

[gray sand]

Max is 4.

[random kayak]

Can't I don't have the equipment

[nocturne wolf]

What would recycle mean here?

[wicked snow]

For a time iron was the top pickaxe so we always rushed to it

[opal prairie]

If the poll has happened before?

[gray sand]

Bronze pick gets you more bronze faster and also gets you through iron faster (in case you want to spend your first 30+ iron on forge upgrades)

[plush umbra]

personally, i'm done with copper in one deposit, and the time i save making a bronze pick goes into getting an iron pick after the first iron trip

[gleaming musk]

Do you guys do the exploding thing when mining 🤔

[plush umbra]

yepp!

[nocturne wolf]

I do it in multiplayer

[kindred bronze]

exploding thing?

[gleaming musk]

I did it a few times cause it looks so cool but usually I'm not patient enough to keep doing it lol

[plush umbra]

if something that breaks into fragments is not supported by anything, breaking another fragment shatters the entire thing in one go

problem is that the fragments' hitboxes for this are cubes and thus don't reflect the shape and size of the fragments, so it's often hard to tell whether or not something is supported

[kindred bronze]

so you dig up the whole thing and shatter it?

[plush umbra]

it's really bad on copper deposits, but better on almost everything after

[plush umbra]

yes

[wicked snow]

Dig under the deposit and break it in one

[gleaming musk]

I would do it on the silver veins but there's usually lot of big rocks that make it more difficult for me

[kindred bronze]

I thought they had fixed that... since it's rather an exploit for copper, silver or stones in the plains

[gray sand]

Silver is the easiest to do it to.
Copper is usually too big to get all the way under.

[nocturne wolf]

It's not a bug though. It would've been added intentionally.

[plush umbra]

you still need the right pickaxe to trigger it - a fragment has to be broken for it to shatter

[random kayak]

#building-screenshots message This is my current outpost and might make it a permanent base or something

[plush umbra]

if you know exactly what to look for, it can be more efficient than mining a copper deposit manually, but otherwise it may waste more time than just mining it the traditional way

[gleaming musk]

I did it only on copper for now 😬

[plush umbra]

as for silver: saves so much time

[gleaming musk]

And the plains big stones

[random kayak]

I just got an extra bronze when I was Crafting... HUH???

[opal prairie]

If you excavate something completely (meaning around 2 meters from all sides) and then break one piece it should explode if nothing is connected to one of the hitboxes.
Works with bronze, silver, stone, soft tissue and skull (though you have to excavate the skull, break one piece of the skull, break the soft tissue, break skull), spires in the plains and the mistlands.

[opal prairie]

Crafting skill.

[nocturne wolf]

The new crafting skill gives players a chance for more stuff

[kindred bronze]

hm..... 😄 sounds interesting...

[gleaming musk]

I crafted 100 arrows with the shift click thing and got one extra arrow thanks to the crafting skill lol

[opal prairie]

Oh and buildings kind of work the same, take away the support and it starts collapsing so just destroying the lower parts of a dvergr structure makes it rain black marble and other materials they used.

[kindred bronze]

yeah... already saw this since my brother tought it would be funny to remove some stones from my cathedral...

[random kayak]

That's huge

I wanna make a bronze sword but the spear has me by the throat

[wicked snow]

Copper often reaches where you cant dig deeper, like others said. Super easy for silver tho

[opal prairie]

For some things it can be nice for others it's just meh, like the 1 extra arrow or getting multiple pants for an armor or so.
Certainly if you play solo, 2 pants means just more coal or spending more resources to craft a full 2nd set and you might end op with 3 helmets.

[wicked snow]

Oh yeah loved the new +1 feature we saved on armor or food

[opal prairie]

True but if you go as low as you can and then mine horizontally you can get the top layer to explode and will often result in less time spent mining.

[plush umbra]

that's basically always. thankfully you don't have to get the entire thing exposed for part of it to shatter, but having remaining fragments in the ground does make it harder because their invisible boxes sometimes reach up to the floating part of the deposit

[random kayak]

The spear is so good. But I want the sword RAAAAAGH

[nocturne wolf]

You can make both if you need to

[kindred bronze]

In my opinion the sword is best. In the early days maces were the strongest weapon but I think swords are now.

But... in the end it depends on your playstyle so go with the flow and choose what suits the most

[nimble aurora]

sword supremacy (spears suck late game, most mistlands and ashlands mobs resist pierce)

[plush umbra]

the only thing that changed is that they (probably accidentally) lost multi-target penalty and got a bigger hitbox
so if you're hitting multiple things (or terrain) at once, they are better than they used to be yea

[opal prairie]

I prefer knives and I will use a mace in the swamps but all the rest of the biomes is done with knives.
Then in mistlands I go mage and in the ashlands I like to make an askvin set and the berserker axes just to have some melee shenanigans when I feel like it.

[plush umbra]

all mistlands mobs that resist pierce (except the queen) also resist blunt and slash, it's the one biome where every weapon type shares the same type disadvantage that pierce weapons usually have.
f.e. blobs, growths, bonemass, skeletons, stone golems, yagluth all just dislike pierce (and sometimes slash along with it) in particular

[nimble aurora]

swords are lowkey better for that reason, you do less dmg per single target but more total damage

[nimble aurora]

i know, but charred and morgen’s all resist pierce and charred are neutral to blunt and slash

[random kayak]

I like decently fast attack that's why I like the knife and spear alot

[plush umbra]

it's the same base damage, because they were intended to also have multi-target penalty

[kindred bronze]

really? Knives?
Is it really sneaky like assassin-gameplay or do you just run and stick your knives into everything? Never used them tho

[nimble aurora]

yes, but because they dont, its better

[kindred bronze]

sword is fast as well, not comparing to a knive but to an axe or a mace

[nocturne wolf]

They have high backstab damage but are still good weapons when used normally

[plush umbra]

i'm just saying they don't do less damage per single target unless there's a type disadvantage

[nocturne wolf]

I thought swords and maces have the same primary attack

[nimble aurora]

i think the main thing is that knives don’t decrease movement speed, and they also have rlly high dps that stacks up dmg and stagger really quickly

[plush umbra]

they do yea, same exact speed

[nocturne wolf]

And the mace secondary is faster

[kindred bronze]

really? but the mace has a much higher knockback... felt a bit slower 😄

[nimble aurora]

yes i know, i said that, which is why i prefer swords because they overall just do more dmg

because they dont lose dmg when hitting multiple

[plush umbra]

you did say "less damage per single target"

which implies lower base damage

[nimble aurora]

thats not what i meant

[random kayak]

Can I back stab a troll

[plush umbra]

well good to know 😅

[kindred bronze]

Hm... could try that... but I'm a bit of a movement noob and played almost all of my 700 hours with a shield.... so knives and berserkir axes feel a bit strange 😄

[nimble aurora]

yes you can, lvl 2 flint knife backstab does like 150 dmg if your skills are good enough

[nocturne wolf]

Backstabs are attacks towards enemies that haven't seen you yet, so yes.

[nimble aurora]

ive done a knife only playthrough, its a lot of fun, especially if you get to the point of fenris set + skoll and hati

[nocturne wolf]

Actually hitting behind the enemy is no different to hitting the front, except for Seeker Soldiers because they have a weak point

[kindred bronze]

so no "!" 😄

[nimble aurora]

its more the enemy being unaware as opposed to being behind them

you can be to the left or right and still get ‘backstab’ dmg

[kindred bronze]

or in front if the mob is kind of dumb 😄

[nocturne wolf]

It's not like dark souls where you can just spin around an enemy for free critical hits

[nimble aurora]

sometimes their AI fucks up and you can be right in front of them too, ive mainly noticed it with greydwarfs and fulings

[nimble aurora]

yeah nah

[nocturne wolf]

That would be broken in multiplayer

[nimble aurora]

even getting behind a parried seeker soldier can be difficult sometimes

[nocturne wolf]

I jump over them

[nimble aurora]

yeah i do too

[nocturne wolf]

I jump over everything

[kindred bronze]

i just parry them and put them into their place 😄

[nimble aurora]

but because the sword secondary has such a long windup u gotta attack before u hit the ground

[nimble aurora]

if you parry them and jump behind them you can take like 50% health in one hit

[nocturne wolf]

It's best to try to hit any jump attack as early as possible so you aren't stuck on the ground for too long.

[nimble aurora]

true yeah

[kindred bronze]

yeah but if I parry them and them jump around to hit hard, the parry buff could be gone

[nimble aurora]

thats why youve gotta jump quickly and attack before u hit the ground

[kindred bronze]

I'm slow... 😄

[nimble aurora]

the timing is really precise

it takes practice trust

[nocturne wolf]

'Parry buff'?
Parrying applies the exact same stagger as staggering through damage.

[nimble aurora]

it’s just more likely to be applied through parrying

not to mention seeker soldiers have a huge stagger limit

[opal prairie]

The leap attack is very nice and if you have a buckler and parry, a lot of mobs can get stun locked with knives.

[kindred bronze]

they suck... and do not drop enough trophys...

[nimble aurora]

true

although the only use outside of decor is resummoning the queen

[nimble aurora]

yeah still being able to use shields is fantastic

[nocturne wolf]

One porcupine or polearm secondary in the weak point should be enough.

[nimble aurora]

i just wish ashlands gave us a new knife

because you spend all the game levelling up knives only for the next dual wield to be axes

[kindred bronze]

yeah but resummoning the queen is the goal... since my mate didn't kill her yet :-d

[kindred bronze]

but they look sick as fuck 😄

[nimble aurora]

oh fair enough yeah

[nimble aurora]

true that, lightning beserkirs are like top 3

[kindred bronze]

yes... and the effect of the green ones is sick as well... massive attack speed and chance to root... they don't even attack while rooted 😄

[nimble aurora]

but i can’t suggest knives enough, they’re so amazing. only think you gotta be careful of is boss fights, specially bonemass since he resists both dmg types it deals. abyssal razor lvl 3 and like lvl 30 knife skill is how i did it

[nocturne wolf]

Just make a level 1 iron mace for bonemass, it's cheap and works very well even with low skill

[nimble aurora]

kinda defeats knives only but true yeah

[kindred bronze]

I'm tempted to at least try it 😄

[nimble aurora]

you aint lived til youve used skoll and hati against the queen

[nocturne wolf]

I haven't made a skoll and hati before, but they've been very fun to use with a commands character.

[nimble aurora]

even at lvl 1 you can reck regular seekers, and the block armour and parry bonus are actually still really high

lvl it up to like 3 and you can just maul anything

[willow hound]

is the fennring trophy bugged, or is my rng just terrible, being trying for a week irl to get one, killed at least 100 of them

[kindred bronze]

Hm... i'll try 😄

[nimble aurora]

its a VERY low drop rate

coupled with fenrings low spawn rates, itll take a long time

[nimble moss]

Or trolls to the head (arrow or spear)

[willow hound]

i wish starred enemies had a higher tropy drop chance

[nimble aurora]

wiki says 10% but i believe its 5%

[kindred bronze]

got more fenring then seeker soldier... I thought 1 star mobs always drop a trophy 😄

[willow hound]

feels like minus 1000% chance

[nocturne wolf]

Stars have no effect on trophies

[nocturne wolf]

So you kill a fenring and lose ten trohpies?

[nimble aurora]

it does make sense tbh, you put in way more effort

[willow hound]

yeah, 10 wolf trophies

[nimble aurora]

are you trying to get trophies to make fishing bait or just for the novelty

[random kayak]

Terra forming is EXPENSIVE 😭

[opal prairie]

I second that.

[nimble aurora]

building in general is very expensive in this game

especially stone floors

you only get 6 stone floors out of a full stack of 50

[random kayak]

I'm trying to expand my outpost

[kindred bronze]

stone, marble... yes.. but it feels like grausten is quit easy 😄

[gleaming musk]

First time in the mistlands. ||Just learnt what a tick is the hard way.||

[nimble aurora]

grausten also looks amazing

[opal prairie]

Grausten just comes in abundance.

[nocturne wolf]

You can roll to get them off

[nimble aurora]

root harnesk and atgier

[gleaming musk]

Damn I wish I knew that

[kindred bronze]

i think the walls could need a bit texture

[opal prairie]

Did the ||gjall|| ||tick|| you off?

[gleaming musk]

a bit

[nimble aurora]

root harnesk in general is op in mistlands

90% of the dmg is pierce so its just a flat 50% dmg reduction for the biome

[nocturne wolf]

It's op against fader too.
#screenshots message

[willow hound]

complete my trophy room

[nimble aurora]

its op in general 😂 i use it from swamp onwards

[opal prairie]

It really is.

[nimble aurora]

only thing is u gotta be rlly careful in frost caves coz cultists will absolutely melt you

[kindred bronze]

and gjall..

[nocturne wolf]

And against fuling shamans, but you can get fire resistance from water
after that you can use barley wine

[nimble aurora]

true, but by that point you have barley wine

[random kayak]

At this point this isn't an outpost 😭 this Is an entirely new main base LMAO

[opal prairie]

Yeah but if you are quick with the hammer you can easily block them in a doorway with just building a cooking station.

[nimble aurora]

true yeah

[kindred bronze]

yep, thats right

[opal prairie]

Them balls be easy to doge, they try to teabag you but they are just so slow.

[nimble aurora]

wish id thought of that the first time 😭

[kindred bronze]

yep... I surfed gjall yesterday a bit for the first time but he shook and threw me over 😄

[opal prairie]

Took me a while to figure that out as well.

[rotund parrot]

At least those frost cave, unlike the burial chamber, crypts and infested mines, are completely optionnal

[opal prairie]

That must have ticked the gjall off.

[nimble aurora]

true, but i like braziers so i want the fenris claws

[opal prairie]

Full Fenris set is also very good for hit and run tactics and pairs well with knives and bow play.
Also the fire res helps tremendously against Yagluth.

[rotund parrot]

Yeah they look pretty good but I often go with the iron pits instead, I just think they fit better with anything but marble

[random kayak]

I just burned through 10 stacks of stone just to make a bigger platform

[nimble aurora]

true, but they cant be teleported which sucks

[nimble aurora]

realheim

[opal prairie]

Grindheim but we love it.

[gray sand]

10 stacks of stone?
So like... 2 copper nodes? 😉

[rotund parrot]

or 1 plain pillar

[nimble aurora]

i’ve actually been no-lifing again, i played for 13hrs straight yesterday, had the day off work

[random kayak]

Pretty much

[nimble aurora]

what biome are you up to Quantum

[gray sand]

Copper mining is so good at being dual purpose.

[rotund parrot]

Just need to teleport the stones when you mine it, same with silver, futur self will thank you

[gray sand]

No portal runs be like...

[rotund parrot]

Doesn't change much as you most likely want to bring the copper with a cart, it's just harder to pull with the stones in it too

[gray sand]

If you have the belt, usually you can just run the stone back without needing the cart every time you need to refresh your Rested buff.

[rotund parrot]

Although now that I think about it, I didn't do that at all since I was never going to sail stones. I got stones with a cart when I reached the plains and started building there

No portal was fun it really added a lot of challenges

[nimble aurora]

im not brave enough

no map could be fun but no portals is torture

[rotund parrot]

Both!

[kindred bronze]

Both is like stepping on lego... wouldn't do it on purpose

[nimble aurora]

yup

i do like the novelty of remembering natural landmarks with no map

[kindred bronze]

I'm glad that i know where I live... wouldnt be able to find anything in valheim without a map 😄

[rotund parrot]

It makes you work on your sense of orientation, on problem solving, planning ahead, adaptation ...

[nimble aurora]

that part is fun yeah

but i also hate getting lost

[rotund parrot]

Much, much more immersive

You want to avoid that

[kindred bronze]

do you guys always start a new char when starting a new world or do you keep the old one and just keep leveling the stats using the equipment of the new world?

[gray sand]

Always fresh.

[rotund parrot]

Mistlands was fun on no map no portal, I would just make a line of mist torches that goes to the middle of the mistlands, then I would diverge from that line in a direction to find an infested mine, placing torches along the way, if I didn't find one, I'd just take the torches out while coming back and try another way

[nimble aurora]

either or

ive done both and both are fun

[opal prairie]

Maybe even lego bricks that are on fire.

[nimble aurora]

i despise farming yggdrasil tho coz it always gets stuck in a crack

[kindred bronze]

...... sometimes is good to be kind of stuck in a crack 😄 😄 😄 😄 😄 sorry but it had to be said

[rotund parrot]

I just got most of the yggdrasil wood from the little saplings

[opal prairie]

It's mostly the rocking back and forth to get comfortable in that crack that is the good part.

[kindred bronze]

boi.. 😄 😄

[nimble aurora]

brother you aint slick what is thisssss 😭

[nimble aurora]

has anyone noticed a decrease in serpent spawns???

[vocal rivet]

There hasn't been one, so probably not.

[kindred bronze]

serpents or ashland-noodles?

[nimble aurora]

regular serpents

bonemaw’s are more than abundant lmao

[errant knoll]

Regular serpents seem to be about the same to me as normal

[kindred bronze]

I haven't seen a regular one in days... but most time I'm hanging around in my new castle in the ashlands so.... I think they were rare since the beginning

[errant knoll]

Considering they only spawn at night or during a storm, they're quite rare to begin with

[opal prairie]

If I rock that crack hard enough I might get slick.

[tacit crystal]

It's RNG.

[opal prairie]

Pray to Aaargh An Geezus for more serpents.

[nimble aurora]

like i spent 4 nights looking and didnt find a single one

[errant knoll]

Meanwhile my first voyage on a karve I find 3 and I'm praying for my life that the ship doesn't break

[nimble aurora]

yeah i always seem to find them when i have a ship full of ore thats on about 25% health…

[plush umbra]

scar and i have had plenty lately.
you're not sailing in a circle or something right?
each zone you touch attempts a spawn somewhere around you and then goes on cooldown for 16 minutes, nights are only 9 minutes long

[errant knoll]

I try and make it a habit to find a place to stop after every serpent fight to repair the ship now.

But when you're in black forest gear and the only nearby place is plains... not ideal lol

[nimble aurora]

no im sailing in a continuous line, and moving whenever the biome changes apart from ocean

[nimble aurora]

yeah true lmao

[errant knoll]

Satan's bugs will ruin your life haha

[plush umbra]

could still be too thin oceans at least in some cases, they need a 100% ocean chunk to spawn, though that is pretty common
but yea it's 5% per chunk, always has been

[nimble aurora]

alr i might just be crazy unlucky

i wish we could make a new bonemaw dish

although with how common they are it wouldnt be overly balanced

[nocturne wolf]

We'll probably be able to with deep north materials. Plain bonemaw meat is already so strong that anything cooked with it would need to be better than what's available in ashlands.

[nimble aurora]

i just hope they stick to the lore for deep north terrain

[nocturne wolf]

What do you mean? What lore?

[kindred bronze]

jotunheimen?

[errant knoll]

More skulls to dig out?

I'll be honest I know basically nothing about norse mythology. Everything I read in game makes odin sound like a giant douchebag though.

An insecure douchebag, even

[plush umbra]

i mean, you don't need to be, iron gate's trying to be original.
most of the biomes are references to other realms, but i'm pretty sure it's not meant to be anything deeper than that, they're still all their own thing and don't have to closely follow the realm they're a nod to.
valheim is valheim, not a compilation of the other 9 realms.

[errant knoll]

Like I know a few things like there's a realm of fire, presumably the ashlands is referencing that

[vocal rivet]

There isn't any yet.

[candid basalt]

lol I saw him last night in the swamps after I complained about no crypts on the island I was exploring. I fired my staff of embers at him and suddenly got swarmed by swamp creatures and some seekers. And then found the three crypts in that huge swamp. I feel Odin sent the mobs and because I was victorious, rewarded me with the crypts

[plush umbra]

and in the end, ashlands got a bit of helheim as well as muspelheim
i think swamps might be the original helheim reference?

[nimble aurora]

there’s a dream, as well as an ashlands runestone, that describe the north as a frozen forest

i just think that would be cool

[nimble aurora]

yes there is, very little but theres some

[plush umbra]

if it's an ashlands runestone, it's very fresh lore and likely to be followed, yea

[errant knoll]

Like imagine you're a fuling. This is the world as you see it.

Your species is on the verge of a great advancement, then some insecure God strikes your king down. Then when you're trying to just live your life out in the plains, some of that gods mortal minions come along and basically colonise your space and steal your stuff.

Yeah, odin ain't very nice.

[nocturne wolf]

He sent us to Valheim, without him there would be no game. That seems nice to me

[nimble aurora]

fr he blessed us with the game

[plush umbra]

secret solo dev

[candid basalt]

I do like the swamps tho #screenshots message

[plush umbra]

progression-wise, i think swamps might be my favourite biome

[candid basalt]

I like the mood there

[plush umbra]

shame they have so much competition in the looks department
atmosphere is great though

[nimble aurora]

despite bronze being super grindy, i think black forest is my fav

[tacit crystal]

The ambient OST is very cool indeed in Swamps.

[candid basalt]

Looking for a nice spot to make a “ruined cathedral” build currently

[nimble aurora]

lowkey tho there aint a single bad song in this game tho

[errant knoll]

Visually and how it feels to play, swamps is my least favourite and makes me feel miserable.

Objectively speaking though progression there is great and it's one of the best biomes they made

[opal prairie]

Plains first, mistland close second.

[tacit crystal]

There isn't, true that.

[errant knoll]

I prefer mistlands music to plains. Plains just kinda feels generic to me

[nimble aurora]

ashlands looks fucking phenomenal, the first time i sailed there and heard that song 😮‍💨

[candid basalt]

Black Forest is my favorite chill biome

[nocturne wolf]

Mistlands' progression is nice, you unlock a good amount of things both before and after entering the dungeons there

[plush umbra]

swamps teach you a lot of lessons...without spelling any of them out, so it's easy to miss them (or dismiss them as bad game design or plain unbalanced difficulty)
if you get used to stamina management for example, being wet becomes barely different from being dry, it's just about knowing when to stop spending stamina and start recovering it before your next move, and when that move is

[tacit crystal]

Which reminded me: now Spotify has the whole OST!

[errant knoll]

Nah, disagree. I feel like mistlands progression is too binary in it's state. The biome is a huge pain to navigate, until, suddenly it isn't, and it hinges on those black cores.

[plush umbra]

and then there's damage types, both ways
enemies that deal tons of poison that's often gonna kill you if you're not using a mead, and more enemies that resist common damage types

[candid basalt]

I just wish swamps would have the occasional “sunshine storm” because it looks amazing when you find a spot of meadows or black forest in the middle of it

[plush umbra]

i couldn't say no to some weather variety in swamps as long as they remain primarily rainy as they are

[nimble aurora]

YESS

[candid basalt]

Yes, just a bit of sun and then back to the undeath mode

[tacit crystal]

Small sliver of hope... Then, depression again.

[candid basalt]

I love my skele pets and undead/necromancer is my preferred class in games. The swamps is a vibe

[nimble aurora]

well the constant rain debuff is something to get used to

[candid basalt]

And guck torches are so pretty

[errant knoll]

Honestly anything to break up the monotonous depression of the swamps, and make it feel slightly better to be inside lol

[tacit crystal]

Wet is manageable, but cold and wet debuffs together has claimed many in Swamps.

[candid basalt]

I find mountains more depressing

Blizzards suck

[plush umbra]

granted, my biggest problem with swamps' monotony remains the lack of visual variety in sunken crypts, but that's a builder problem no normal playthrough is gonna need so much iron that it starts to drive you as insane as it has me

[errant knoll]

I love the mountains. My favourite chill biome in the game (pun intended)

[candid basalt]

Tbh I love all the biomes. But there are some I prefer to build on than others

[plush umbra]

i would say my bias is obvious, but for the first time in years, my title is not móðir of the mountain anymore

[errant knoll]

Preferred place to build a base is in the mountains, not for practicality but I love the aesthetic

[candid basalt]

A nice cold fortress is neat

[plush umbra]

despite that, i think black forest might be my favourite biome visually, partially because while mountains have decent scale compared to some other games, the rocks and the terrain they make up do not look good or "mountainy"

[wide zenith]

Flametal islands sink permanently?

[candid basalt]

Black Forest is so pretty

[errant knoll]

Another place to build a base i love is high up on those giant stones in the plains

[tacit crystal]

Yes, 1% chance they start to sink per hit.

[plush umbra]

yes, unless you log out or portal away before they finish sinking, but that's kind of a bug/exploit

[plush umbra]

kinda same, my all-time main base is on a mountain, and i spawnproofed it enough to never be bothered by drakes~

[tacit crystal]

I once tried that after Ashlands came on regular Leviathan and it was disappeared after logging in. Since that I have not tried that with Lavaiathans.

[errant knoll]

True enough the drakes can be slightly annoying, so spawn proofing helps.

[nimble aurora]

yeah the combination is crazy bad

[errant knoll]

Cold and wet, and before you know it there's like 7 or 8 draugr closing in on you, an abomination has just risen out of the ground, an oozer is slowly jumping and now there's a wraith harassing you from the sky

[nimble aurora]

wraiths are actually super dangerous, they do so much more dmg than you’d expect them to

[nocturne wolf]

They only have one attack and no random movement so they're entirely predictable though

[errant knoll]

A wraith by itself isn't dangerous at all, the problem is the combination of everything and not having enough stamina, that's when the wraith is actually dangerous

[plush umbra]

it's a quick attack though, and they're relentless as a result of that

[errant knoll]

That aside once the swamps are outgeared I'll just camp there at night looking for wraiths to farm chains

[plush umbra]

but yea that's another lesson; awareness, keeping your head on a swivel and being especially wary once something (like an abomination) has hit a tree or rock

with all the logs and trees around, things blend into the darkness pretty easily

[nocturne wolf]

I hit trees so the enemies don't hide from me

[plush umbra]

bold but relatable once i'm confident enough in a place or grinding enemies

[errant knoll]

The thing that annoys me about the swamp is how slowly all the enemies move. I'd rather just get charged, like when the wolves run up to you in the mountains.

The slow movement would be less annoying if there wasn't water everywhere complicating combat

[nocturne wolf]

Draugr are pretty fast once they see you

[errant knoll]

They are, but it's still a slow creep towards you before then

[plush umbra]

but their aggro distance is very short

[errant knoll]

I wouldn't mind the slow movement so much again if not for the water, the water is what makes it annoying because you just have to spend excess stamina on things like jumping to close the gap while making sure you can still actually fight

[tacit crystal]

Hitting Abominations with Battleaxe feels great when it stays staggered

[candid basalt]

I use the hoe to flatten paths as I go, keeping an eye on stamina of course. Level to half stamina, look around, keep going

[errant knoll]

I've seen this can be done, flattening the paths everywhere I go feels like a lot of work if I'm not planning to build there later anyway.

[candid basalt]

Fair

A swamp with stone paths and torches lining said paths is neat tho

[plush umbra]

yea i just walk calmly across land and hop over the water, works for me

cattails make it easy enough to tell where you can stand and where you'll swim

[candid basalt]

True

[errant knoll]

I do use the hoe to flatten an arena around bonemasses summoning altar though.

That's like one of the few times I will actively manipulate the map for a fight

[candid basalt]

I make paths in swamps to wherever I’m gonna have a boat so it’s easier to cart the iron

[final bloom]

I love the Plains, getting Tar and raiding villages

When u get used to it with Magic, it's so fun

[candid basalt]

Magic makes everything better 😁

[upbeat crypt]

you guys botherin with chimneys at all now? I am just buidling the houses so high it doesn't matter

[opal prairie]

Yeah I bother with chimneys because I don't build high.

[plush umbra]

i always make a chimney, and then 95% of the time i only realize after finishing the build that it's tall enough for the smoke to just despawn before building up anyway

[upbeat crypt]

if the highest wall isn't at least orange, I'm not satisfied

[plush umbra]

it's kinda shocking how small an interior has to be for ventilation to stop mattering

[trail pelican]

i tend to build chimneys because I like how they look, but admittedly I don't really worry about if they ACTUALLY vent the smoke out properly (versus just being tall enough to have the particles decay), as long as the fire stays consistently look

[upbeat crypt]

it's probably too hard on performance to have smoke take up a 5 by 5 by 5 cube

[plush umbra]

well then it'd be damn near impossible to vent

[fervent quiver]

I am really just not liking the Ashlands. Anyone else? It has no beauty at all and is a nonstop fight. I know with the name ashlands its hard to have beauty I could get over that but the nonstop enemies that all know where you are all the time is not fun to me. Even when fully geared in it; it doesn't get easier at the same level the other biomes get. Just saying. And on top of that they make you spend WAY more time there than in any other biome. Sad. It used to be my favorite game. Now.... not so much. Hoping to open dialogue about it.

[trail pelican]

you have to earn every inch of Ashlands

by which I mean, you will by design be constantly fighting in it, until and unless, you secure the area through the usual techniques--earthen walls/trenches, and campfire spam

[opal prairie]

Once you conquered a fort you have a solid base to start from and can go to other forts and make them all your own.
It doesn't get calmer but it does get easier when geared up in the ashlands gear.

[trail pelican]

also that, definitely--forts make excellent ready to go 'safe points' once captured to return to and expand/venture out from

it's fundamentally no different than the Black Forest, it's just easy to forget what that once felt like once you're in Ashlands gear and basically nothing in the forest is a threat whatsoever, maybe not even a 2 star troll

[rotund parrot]

On my last playthrough I spent about 8 in games day to beat the ashlands, it was a lot less than both the plains and the mistlands. Ended up defeating fader on day 69 so I'd say it took less time than the other biomes which took about 5 hours each

I may not be a good reference for this though but it seems pretty even overall

Except the mountain, that biome took less than 2 hours

[teal matrix]

Me and the boys chillin on day 400+ in the mistlands:

[light moat]

I really like Ashlands, probably my favorite biome as far as gameplay goes. It does go really quickly though.

[teal matrix]

We're excited to hit the Ashland but have had 0 luck finding the queen, even though we've cleared quite a few mines

[trail pelican]

Queen can be tricky, spawns possibly real far out in the world, hit or miss as usual on vesvegirs, and those damn mines--IME so easy to miss some/hard to find in the first place

[rotund parrot]

Yeah the vegvisir are not really common, make sure you look down in the pits under the bridges, they can spawn in there

[trail pelican]

and unlike Yag, you not as likely I think to be able to spot her dungeon from just sailing by, whereas the yag finger rocks are VERY unique and clear from far away feature

[teal matrix]

Yeah, we've been scouring each one pretty thoroughly, hit one last night with 3 hidden rooms but still no luck

[rotund parrot]

With average luck by the time you got the 20-30 cores you need you should find a vegvisir

[teal matrix]

Hrm... not sure how many we've found. We have the galdr table plus it's upgrades and another 4 or 5 in a chest iirc

Ah, we got 2/3 at least

[rotund parrot]

Both table and a couple refineries will cost 20 but you may need more for something else in the ashland

[teal matrix]

Oh well, just means more exploration to be done.

[trail pelican]

I have not REALLY found a need (spare black cores DEFINITELY a 'real nice to have') for more than one refinery but IIRC that is STILL like 15 minimum for one of each (2 tables and 1 refinery) unless you want the constant inconvenience of breaking down one of the three when you need one of the other of the three

[teal matrix]

Nah, we got the refinery already luckily.

[errant knoll]

I'm on day 230 in mistlands. I think if I was actually trying to play this efficiently I'd have been done a lot sooner but I've made and upgraded both the heavy and light set, which I wouldn't usually do, and fighting/experimenting with new gameplay

Also I've learned lessons which would make a second run through much quicker, like prioritise a crossbow as soon as I possibly can.

[wide zenith]

Blood infused weapons increase dmg per missing hp
My hp? or enemies

[opal prairie]

Skipping most bronze stuff, getting an abyssal razor and fine bow asap, that really speeds up the beginning for me.

[opal prairie]

Yours, each hp you miss gives a 0.2% damage boost, the "hard" part is keeping that hp low and not dying.

[wide zenith]

Mkay, thx

[opal prairie]

Not many people find those weapons to be good, though they have their uses and there are ways to work with it but the lightning / root has more benefits in most peoples eyes.

[wide zenith]

Oh, i thought third stone will be frost infuse

[random kayak]

Guys did I make my outpost ugly by adding a moat?

Pre-moat
#building-screenshots message

Post-moat
#building-screenshots message

[opal prairie]

One adds lightning damage and a chance to call forth a chain lightning that can jump to others and the other does poison damage and can root mobs to the spot.

[wide zenith]

Thx. Already knew about jade stone, it was first one i discovered
This infuse system fun thing, i like it

Only wish there was new dagger

[opal prairie]

I like it as well, gives more playstyles and a lightning dagger one or even two handed would be nice, but then again there are the berserker axes.

[wide zenith]

Lightning dagger with flametal buckler would be chef kiss

[high lynx]

Can battle-axe be use to cut tree?

[old flint]

yo, i just arried to a fortress and it has no spawns? Just skellies and skuggs

[trail pelican]

@high lynx not only yes, but weirdly it's supposedly one of the more efficient ways to do so (comparing to equivalent tier 1 hand axe at least), using the secondary faster attack funnily enough

[old flint]

Nvm, I had appparently tried to clear it earlier, found a tombstone

[subtle perch]

hellooooo

Hi guys, eheh

I've a question: how can one like me play with friends in our private match? what do i have to do? how to host?

[old flint]

Holy shit, does crafting also have the 2x drop thing like farming?

I just heard a "pop" sounds and got 2 dyrwyns??

[trail pelican]

LOL someone finally rolled it 😂

[old flint]

im flabbergasted honestly

[trail pelican]

it's pretty hilarious IMO to roll it on the unique sword

[old flint]

It is

Well, if someone is in need of a dyrwyrn...

[wide zenith]

Damn, i didn't expect berserkir axes to be that good

[old flint]

they are

[wide zenith]

Still thinking about elemental version

[old flint]

I got the lightning one and im pretty happy

[wide zenith]

Fuck, i just found 2* spawner
Ashlands scary 😭

[old flint]

is it golden/purple?

[wide zenith]

Purple

[old flint]

it might also be the mystery location

[wide zenith]

Nah, it was small poi with 4 cores
I have mystery location on map and it's far af

[nocturne wolf]

There's three mystery locations
Are you sure there wan't something more valuable?

[wide zenith]

Vegvisir and 4 cores + spawner

[keen cliff]

that's definitely a mystery location. you should search it better.

[wide zenith]

Huh, okay

[old flint]

yes. look for something sharp

[keen cliff]

essentially you skipped ahead on that quest line. probably your first mystery location would have led you there

[wide zenith]

Kinda scary, when you have pack of 2* mobs

[wide zenith]

My first mystery location marked on map far away from me

[keen cliff]

i understand. what i'm saying is that your FIRST one would lead you to this one

[wide zenith]

Yea, i get it
Why would it lead me here tho? For what

[keen cliff]

just search the place after you dealt with the mobs

[wide zenith]

Aight

Oh, now i see, it was on table with those cores, lol

[high lynx]

How do i make new line on a sign

[old flint]

just look at it and press e

[vocal rivet]

How does that answer their question?

[rotund parrot]

With enough words it will do it automatically but you can also do this: Stones Flint

[vocal rivet]

/r works I believe.

[nimble aurora]

just finished a fortress, aint it funny how you dont need either piece of siege equipment

[rotund parrot]

If you are patient enough but I am much too lazy to do it any other way than just using the ram, just seems like way too much work

[nimble aurora]

the less time spent farming flametal and aggroing half the biome the better

[rotund parrot]

Flametal is the easiest metal to get by far though

[nimble aurora]

it doesnt make a whole lot of sense that you can just mine through the center tower but oh well

[nimble aurora]

i actually resort to raiding fortresses, it’s usually a guaranteed 60-80

[wheat stirrup]

how rare is troll with any number of stars

[rotund parrot]

9% for 1 star, 1% for 2 star and it's only if you are a good distance from the middle of the map

[nimble aurora]

its at least 2000m from spawn in any direction

i have seen starred trolls in caves lower than that distance though so it’s possible the caves have a different distance

[nocturne wolf]

Love potions make starred trolls significantly easier to find

[vocal rivet]

One time spawns can be starred at any distance.

[nimble aurora]

2 star morgen in the first putrid hole i ever encountered be like

[leaden elbow]

how the fuck do i kill the elder. When does he despawn so i can re-do, why does a troll spawn every time i summon him, and why can he one shot me, low health kills me and low stamina i cant shoot him. Any other way to kill him?

[nimble aurora]

if you’re absolutely stuck and want a cheese method, you can dig underneath the altar and stay near the middle, the elder will eventually walk on top of the fire bowl and eventually burn to death

[old flint]

bosses dont despawn. Use axe and a bow with fire arrows. Use altar pillars as cover

[wide zenith]

Mine was 1* lol
still rough

[nimble aurora]

i mean i had mistwalker, i just kept hitting it and the frost effect meant it couldnt turn around fast enough, but still

[onyx pier]

I dig a hole right up against his altar that goes straight down but allows me to run up the edge to get out. Summon, run to hole, then use fire arrows to shoot his nuts