valheim-chat

[rotund parrot]

You look shinier!

[keen cliff]

i'm not going to bother with lightfoot potions unless i get super bored

ashlands feast is SUPER reasonable in terms of ingredients, imo

[gray sand]

Yeah, EITR is where the feasts actually change the Config recommendations.
Example:

Mistlands HEE = 165/105/165 H/S/E Total Stat: 435
Mistlands SEE = 110/167/165 H/S/E Total Stat: 442

Mistlands EEF = 145/142/198 H/S/E Total Stat = 485

[odd helm]

Is it really a Mistlands diet if you unlock it after the Queen tho

I'm struggling with that on my own diet recs

[rotund parrot]

Was about to say the same thing, my go to since the update has been HHF

[gray sand]

It's "mistlands acquired" that is how the Config tab works 😦

[keen cliff]

i think the feasts basically just give me a reason to pick up ingredients from earlier biomes when i'm there

[gray sand]

It shows the highest potential of the listed biome.

So if you're in BF, you should have the highest Meadows config, and the BF config is showing you what you're upgrading into.

[keen cliff]

and lets me use my current ingredient stockpile, since i'm a hoarder

[rotund parrot]

In reality you will unlock the ashland tier food right after the mistland feast and you won't be able to use that feast at all for the whole mistlands

[gray sand]

Ashlands EEF is 162/156/223 which is.. not a bad spread at all.

[odd helm]

At the very least it will allow you to enter the Ashlands with Sev's proposed Mistlands EEF if you're a mage, which is not a bad spread at all either

[candid shale]

anyone else having constant crash issues?

[odd helm]

I'm kinda considering feasts as an early-next biome unlock

[keen cliff]

hmm. can you ride an Asksvin over the ocean?

i don't even know if i have a saddle made yet, need to look

[odd helm]

I'll probably stick to whichever foodstuffs give you the most bonus in any given stat for diets in my sheet, balanced will probably need a revision with feasts but otherwise there's not a lot else that needs changing

Maybe add a post-boss section with the feasts?

-# Jeez, this is gonna take some work

[gray sand]

Correct.
And if you're using highest Mistlands to enter Ashlands (as in intended), the same configuration in the Ashlands shows you what foods you are upgrading into.

[odd helm]

That said, a lot of really good Ashlands foods now bypass needing 6* cauldron with food prep table > stone oven, so you'll get those foods a lot faster than usual without needing flametal

[rotund parrot]

To me that tiny window of between boss fight and starting the next biome is too short to differentiate. I'd compare food available during X biome which does not include the feast that you get from defeating that biome's boss

[odd helm]

Still need to reach Ashlands in a normal progression playthrough, that'll be a very interesting shake-up

[rotund parrot]

I really disliked that we could bypass the cauldron's upgrade in my playthrough, I didn't even realize I left the cauldron at level 3 until I had to make mashed meat in the ashlands

[odd helm]

Personally torn about wanting that upgrade path to matter vs taking any possible advantage in Ashlands as early as possible

Will probably wait til we get there to form an opinion~

[keen cliff]

that DOES give people more help in a challenging biome. that ain't bad

[rotund parrot]

It was satisfying to get a new material, craft something at your base and see all the new food available instead of unlocking them very fast as you pick up something while you are too busy to even look

[odd helm]

That's true, yeah

[rotund parrot]

It wasn't just that biome though, it's all the meads and most of the food from the plain onward

[odd helm]

Oh all meads always only needed a 1* cauldron

The mead ketill changes nothing except where you make the starters

Hmm, it would be more upgrade clutter but I kinda want them to add upgrade pieces to the food prep table to fix that

[gray sand]

Config tab updated.
Add a couple more notes for reasoning/readability.

Also changed the side column to the HHS-type abbreviations so people can stop saying they've neve seen that notation before 😄

[odd helm]

You're a trooper Sev~

[gray sand]

Holy crap

[odd helm]

If I wasn't so tied up with uni I'd work on mine as fast as you did here

[gray sand]

Highest total stat possible is 569 and it's.. not even bad.

EFF -> 197 / 206 / 166

[odd helm]

Oohwoah, stamina heavy

Lots of eitr too

[nocturne wolf]

Looks good for someone who wants a combination of physical and magic weapons

[gray sand]

EEF Ashlands is 162/156/223
So swapping Shroomshake for the Mistlands Feast is the difference.

[nocturne wolf]

Although I think it would be better to only use stamina and eitr with a staff of protection

[odd helm]

My xbowmare/sorcerer is gonna enjoy that a lot

-# I just need to actually kill Fader

[gray sand]

Mistlands EEF: 145/142/198
Mistlands SEE: 110/167/165

Feast better for mage builds imo 🤷‍♂️

[odd helm]

-# why don't you always keep the double letters at the start

[gray sand]

Because the order is H-S-E-F

[rotund parrot]

I think so too you just waste some stats with melee, for those who want a bit more stamina HHS will still be better but HHF gives you a good alternative with more health and just a bit less stamina

[gray sand]

It was just H-S and then Mistlands added the E
So it become H-S-E
And now we have F
So it is now H-S-E-F

😦

[odd helm]

That makes sense~

[gray sand]

-# I try to make sense 😭

[odd helm]

I always kept the double letters at the start since it made sense to look for the letter of the stat that you wanna focus on, so the one you'd eat at least two foods of

[gray sand]

569 is a lot of stat though.

[nocturne wolf]

What about B?

[odd helm]

If you wanna focus eitr, having EES and EEH right next to each other makes the most sense for me

[gray sand]

It comes from listing them in order.

HHH
HHS
HSS
^ it felt weird to randomly change the starting letter at that point, so I just commited to always listing them in the given order of H-S-E-F

[keen cliff]

i would put an extral blank line after HHS, and then switch to SSH

[nocturne wolf]

Where does B (mushrooms, jerky etc) go between those? I know they aren’t as useful but they have to go somewhere.

[odd helm]

I do have Bs on the, like, couple biomes that matter

So meadows BF and mountains

Balanced diet after Mistlands includes eitr for obvious reasons

[gray sand]

If any of the B foods actually mattered enough to make it into the Config tab I would consider it.
There is one mention of Red Mushroom, but that isn't enough to change the system.

No other B food is mentioned.
And the sole reason Feasts even make it in is due to the EITR builds I just found.

Jerk suffers the same thing the early feasts do -> direct food is better. You trade stat efficiency for duration.

I do think we are being robbed of Lox jerky though.

[odd helm]

It is very comfy tho, jerky is extremely easy food to make

That competes with feasts now, tho

[gray sand]

Hence the giant note box: "NOTE: Feasts are a trade of longer duration for less stats. They are great for building and resource-gathering. But for direct combat and boss fights, normal food is better. This is why feasts are not listed in the configuration recommendations until you hit Mistlands."

I did also just add the "Max Stat" line to the top of the tab with the other Maximum Stats configs.

HHH = 476
SSS = 456
EEE = 480
Max Total = 569

[rotund parrot]

And that's only because mistlands feast was included, plain feast wouldn't make it otherwise and it would only be once we reach the ashland that feast can give higher overall stats

[gray sand]

325 being max HP makes me wonder if we will break 400 in Deep North. They add about ~50 HP per biome to the max threshold, so probably just shy of 400 if I had to wager.

[rotund parrot]

I just know im not entering the deep north with any less than 325 hp

[gray sand]

I enter new biome with HHS so I'll be at 264.

I switch to HSS when I acquire the biome-specific food.

[gray sand]

Wolfy Jerky obsolete now though 😦
It gives 33/33 and all 3 prior-biome feasts give 35/35 😦

[odd helm]

Not as resource heavy

But true

[nocturne wolf]

It’s very cheap so it can work as base food

[gray sand]

Resources are infinite 😏

Wait, this isn't Satisfactory discord? 😛

[rotund parrot]

Sailor's bounty was very easy to make as soon as I unlocked feast so I was using 35, 35 and 45 from the start when using only feasts

[gray sand]

My preference to sleep through every night means I don't encounter sea serpents until much later in the game than most people.

[rotund parrot]

One thing I enjoyed from that playthrough that is related to feast

Is how often I've had to use pukeberries because of the feast

[gray sand]

High-level sniper builds carry bukeperries with them in-inventory.

[rotund parrot]

If I still had 30-35 minutes left I'd just puke it out since I just didn't care they are all basically free to make and eat my best food to keep exploring

[odd helm]

That can't be good for your stomach

[gray sand]

I still want my Bukeperries + Rotten Meat + Magic Shroom for a puke-based magical AoE attack potion.

[odd helm]

Make it a catapult payload instead~

[gray sand]

No, for that we need the Pufferfish Payload.
Like 100000%

Spiky poisoners everywhere. Flee in terror.

(Unless Charred, who sadly are immune to poison. RIP Ooze bombs..)

[burnt glen]

Wolf jerky does seem obsolete now tbh, 5 wolf meat + 5 honey vs 7 deer meat + 4 dandelions + 1 meadows herb isn't a crazy difference. Plus at that point you could likely use wolf meat for skewers which gives more health while using residual meadows meat for this balanced food for w/e reason.

[vague dagger]

okay Hildir's clothes now named "undyed"?

for example I just bought a "simple undyed tunic" haha

[odd helm]

Gotta bring her those chests back to get dyed clothes

[gray sand]

Need something to do with the extra chests imo.

Like at least be able to sell them to her.

[odd helm]

Decor! They look so pretty in item stands

Very shiny

[fleet fable]

Since we are on the topic of food, is Wolf skewer, serpent stew, eyescream the best HHS? I am gonna likely fight moder tmr

[gray sand]

YOU'RE shiny 😛

[odd helm]

Serpent stew and cooked serpent meat would be

[gray sand]

Food sheet 😉

[fleet fable]

food sheet?

[gray sand]

No one reads your pins Scarlet 😭

[fleet fable]

ah

[odd helm]

Check the pins of this channel~

[fleet fable]

didn't know there were pins

[gray sand]

New to Discord in general?

[odd helm]

My sheet should still be good for pre-bog witch, just gimme a few days to add the feasts

[gray sand]

This is why you're the apprentice 😛

I'M JOKING ❤️

[odd helm]

Huff, I'm not your apprentice Sev~

[gray sand]

🫂

[odd helm]

[burnt glen]

Do the excel scripts do the math for you to figure out the best HHS, SSH etc food?

[gray sand]

No.

[odd helm]

Naw, I do it manually

[gray sand]

Only thing I have excel do for me is the blocking sheet.

Because that would be a manual nightmare.

[odd helm]

Altho I've been meaning to chuck this all into a database and see what fun things I can do with that

[burnt glen]

You should!

[fleet fable]

guess it is time to hunt my first serpents, daresay i am overgeared because i would of thought of serpents as the intermediate threat between BF and swamp

[odd helm]

I always counted serpent stuff as mid swamps just because it's most comfortable to hunt them from a longship

Plus, you need iron to actually eat any of it

[burnt glen]

I eat raw serpent meat for the extra protein

[odd helm]

I'm mildly disappointed that we can't make sashimi with fresh catches

[nocturne wolf]

Don’t forget the trophy!

[burnt glen]

Scarlet, next time you make changes to the food sheet, can you include the the most protein per gram food combination?

[odd helm]

I think that will always be HHH diets, since they're so meat heavy~

Have you seen how red serpent and bonemaw meat is

[burnt glen]

Right, oh and the Omega 3s, how could I forget!!

[fleet fable]

Got my longship ready, time to get some good arrows and set sail

[rotund parrot]

I generally try to time it so that I sail at night as often as I can from the moment I start sailing so that I get a lot of that sweet serpent meat

[fleet fable]

yeah thats what im doing now

need to get swedish pagans up on spotify too XD

[vital umbra]

the population of greydwarves exceeds the demographic of every other living creature in the entirety of valheim 🗿

hi treelash

[plush umbra]

[keen cliff]

oh, that's interesting how windmalls have changed. now you have to click to get the output

[odd helm]

oh finally

[foggy glacier]

what? really?

[plush umbra]

makes sense since flour now stacks to 50

[keen cliff]

yeah, it doesn't just spit it all out. you have to go, mouse over, and it shows how many processed, and you click to get it

cleaner

[foggy glacier]

You've always been able to do that, but now we have to?

I made this nice clean shed for storing my flour and now I have to go in it?

[keen cliff]

i never saw that before. i used to just go to my windmill, and see the output laying on the ground

[odd helm]

I prefer walking up to the output and extracting it personally but (like any change) that probably does break some workflows

[keen cliff]

doesn't bother me either way. but i was confused for a sec, and thought maybe the asksvin had eaten the output or something 🙂

[foggy glacier]

lol yeah

[plush umbra]

i was always a bit confused by those smelter designs that drop the output down some hole.
you gotta walk to the smelters anyway to refill them so how much work does that really skip

[foggy glacier]

I found it much more convenient to just open the door to my hut and walk in to gather the output of the windmills. I never bothered with a hole or chute.

[foggy glacier]

The design is handy if you put your forge/black forge below your smelters or blast furnaces.

same concept if your windmills are on the roof of your kitchen.

[keen cliff]

oh, that's funny. bog witch right near a different bonemass altar. lol

[topaz vortex]

The new cooking skill is so awesome. I got one extra bread dough while crafting and another extra bread from the oven! I went from 8 bread to 10! 10 flour saved. Epic

[keen cliff]

i've been getting extra crops from the farming skill. neat stuff

you here that little "pop" when it happens

[foggy glacier]

It's fun, except when you plant enough for perfect stacks of output.

I've given up on counting how much I plant.

[keen cliff]

that's some super OCD shit going on there 🙂

i thought i was bad for how i plant

[plush umbra]

i do think the crafting skill should be changed to craft level 2 items (for levellable ones) instead of double crafting, but i like that one too

and this was funny #general message

[hidden brook]

im actually gonna destroy my computer why is my campfire putting itself ouuut 😭 😭

[hidden brook]

wait does too much smoke put it out 🤦‍♂️

[plush umbra]

i would say ventilation issue but after the bog witch update it could also be a bu-- oh, yea, ventilation issue

[hidden brook]

god damn it

i thought the outside was putting it out 😭

[keen cliff]

yeah, the smoke itself can put it out

[plush umbra]

smoke can be a bit weird sometimes 😅
each particle is a whole meter tall, wide and thick

[hidden brook]

see the issue is

if i dont have the ventilation issue, the outside puts it out, but if i have a ventilation issue the outside does not put it out

no way did i fix it

[vital umbra]

just make a bonfire outside 🤩

[hidden brook]

im on day two alright

three actually 😎

[vital umbra]

make like, that. stuff.

[plush umbra]

angled ceilings can guide smoke particles along a horizontal path

[hidden brook]

got my hopes up too quick 😭

[hidden brook]

thats what i did 😭 😭

[plush umbra]

to protect a campfire from rain, you only need purely vertical cover. even if the rain looks like it's falling at an angle, mechanically it falls straight down

[hidden brook]

so i made this fancy schmancy exit for no reason

[plush umbra]

(though if the wind gets too strong, you also need sufficient horizontal cover)

[keen cliff]

dang, bog witch swamp doesn't appear to have any crypts at all so far

[hidden brook]

ohhhh okay issue discovered i think, its cause half of the ventilation is covered up by my roof for look purposes

fixed it

thanks guys 😄

[rich ice]

Sorry, I totally missed that reply. Heh, I'm going to have so many duplicate items.

[crude yacht]

I can verify that when it hits 50 bags of flour it spits out the entire stack, no need to interact with it.

[keen cliff]

oh! okay, thanks

[plush umbra]

oh i'm just happy you saw it now

[gray sand]

It spits out stacks in 20s unless you put 50 in, and then it spits out 20-20-10

[vital umbra]

fishing is tiring

sevhran, salutations hello.

[gray sand]

If you put an additional 10 in, it will resume spitting 20-20-20

[plush umbra]

not anymore~

[foggy glacier]

I would say catching fish is tiring.

[gray sand]

Teh fook?

[plush umbra]

flour stacks to 50 now

[gray sand]

Pain...

[plush umbra]

what?

[gray sand]

Spinning wheel goes only to 40
Flour stacked to 20.
It was very easy and simple to just grow both in 40's.

Now the math is fucked 😦

[crude yacht]

The windmill spits out a full stack of flour, which is now 50 flour per stack. Which is the max amount you can put into it at one time.

[odd helm]

But think of the storage savings

[ornate venture]

So... 8-9 greydwarves, 1 greyling, 1 troll, and counting. Not sprinting, but walking real chill-like. Slowly walking as a group into the meadow. This normal?

[gray sand]

Make wheel stack to 50 and I will accept this as good change 😦

[odd helm]

Do you know how much flour we make

[plush umbra]

i guess i think of growing more than i can immediately process anyway

[plush umbra]

oh you've been at work hun

[foggy glacier]

Linen thread does stack to 50. It's just the spinning wheel that only goes to 40. Since it spits them out one at a time, it's kinda moot.

[vital umbra]

I heard some mention awhile back...are public servers much of a thing for this game..

[gray sand]

All of my farms are numbered to "harvest this amount for process and plant exactly this amount to reseed"

[odd helm]

Were gonna need multiple blackmetal chests just for flour~

And that's with this change

[foggy glacier]

Exactly! same.

[crude yacht]

I like it...barley stacks to 100 so shift clicking a stack is the perfect amount to put into the windmill and yields a single stack output. Sounds perfect to me.

[gray sand]

It's just the spinning wheel that only goes to 40.

This is my problem.
It being 40 and Flour being 20 was easy to plant, given the plants themselves reproduce in 2's.

[plush umbra]

a chance i certainly wouldn't be opposed to
...but i forget about that one because linen thread is relevant for so much shorter than flour

[plush umbra]

oh i'm tempted to bring out the reinforced chests if they weren't so damn expensive

[gray sand]

So planting 80 of each yielded 40 for processing and 40 for replant.
Simple.

Windmill not spitting out 40 fucks that up. 😦

[vital umbra]

who care, me no care, work do more be better big number faster storage good yes activity.

[foggy glacier]

I see. You just need to adjust your field to fit 40 flax and 50 barley

[odd helm]

We have so much blackmetal thoooo~

[keen cliff]

you also don't need to spin much flax in the grand scheme of things. you only need a very finite amount

[odd helm]

I know they're ugly but bm chests are so spacious

[gray sand]

<Insert Harry Potter NEVER gif here>

[crude yacht]

Why not just plant 50 of each then?

[foggy glacier]

lol

[plush umbra]

yea but reinforced is more slots per meter in cabinets ´v`"

[keen cliff]

i've switched to black metal chests in new base, but i'm generally embedding all of them into the floor

[gray sand]

BECAUSE THE SPINNING WHEEL DOES NOT TAKE 50

[vital umbra]

i think black metal chests look epic

[odd helm]

That's fairrr~
You're the master architect luv, your word goes~

[nocturne wolf]

So why not plant 40 flax and 50 barley?

[crude yacht]

So...then 50 of the one...40 of the other...since you have to plant them individually anyways?

[vital umbra]

🫠

[keen cliff]

bm chests look great. they are just big and take up a lot of space

[gray sand]

🤦‍♂️ It's like no one has ever interacted with a neuro-atyp farmer before 🤦‍♂️

[crude yacht]

I agree though, increasing the loom to take in 50 would be nice too.

[plush umbra]

made this image a while back and forgot to add to it that you can get around the 1.1 meter height detriment of the reinforced chest by placing them top to bottom, they allow you to clip them into ceilings to fit into spaces less than a meter tall

[gray sand]

For you and Scarlet, this is the best verions of BM chests I have ever seen: #building-screenshots message

[odd helm]

Ooho

[vital umbra]

i don't think i have ever used black metal or reinforced chests in any sort of cabinet style, didn't think it looked right compared to regular chests, i don't mind making chest rooms

[plush umbra]

they'd make for very pretty drawers rotated on their sides...if we could do that in vanilla

[gray sand]

treelash cooked hard with that design.

[plush umbra]

literally

[keen cliff]

i can't take credit for the idea, but i like doing it!

[vital umbra]

do i have no creative bone in my body

[plush umbra]

think they're still cooking now, would be a shame for that kitchen to go unused

[gray sand]

No one else is, so take it 😛

[keen cliff]

lol

i'm doing the same thing in my building area. let me get a pic. less chests though

[gray sand]

What is the width of a BM compared to a Fermenter?

[keen cliff]

meh, it's night time. nevermind

[vital umbra]

so much fine wood required for things

[odd helm]

Good thing the plains are full of the stuff

[vital umbra]

yet to defeat bonemass in this playthrough

[keen cliff]

yeah. next time i want to get fine wood i'm bringing the trollstav to the plains and going crazy

though maybe berserker axes can chop fast enough, we will see

[plush umbra]

i keep doing it late myself and i'm not even sure why, i could beat bonemass in my sleep, and the added invasions make troll invasions less likely to be picked - more safety for the base

[desert tangle]

wats the update today about? is it safe if im doing a modded playthrough

[vital umbra]

Idk i just don't feel like it, i am doing other things before i fight him..

[odd helm]

That's one for #mods-discussion

[odd helm]

But more than likely you'll need to update/disable them

[gray sand]

Will check myself in a bit if no one has this.

[vital umbra]

There's buildts to be build, fish to be 'ed, and teh list goes on.

[plush umbra]

also bonemass has my favourite power

[odd helm]

I once procrastinated for 200 ingame days before killing bonemass just to get my fort built first, and that was then he was uglier than now

[vital umbra]

i am at 110 days ingame

[nocturne wolf]

Bonemass has everyone’s favourite power

[plush umbra]

old bonemass my be...accustomed?...

[vital umbra]

i defeated the elder at day 15

[plush umbra]

many people still waddle around islands with moder equipped

[odd helm]

-# guilty as charged

[plush umbra]

-# i understand why, but i'm way too patient to relate

[keen cliff]

does this help? #screenshots message

[vital umbra]

i'm so patient that i use dev commands when i die 🙂

[plush umbra]

and i will say, moder is way more interesting mechanically.
most of the powers are literally just number tweaks

[vital umbra]

numbers please me

[plush umbra]

it do be my funny emergency immortality button

[nocturne wolf]

I don’t think I’d be able to consistently survive being hunted before I have mountains food and equipment without Bonemass’ help

[vital umbra]

i swear yagluths power sounded way more interesting than it ended up ever being for me??...i just used fire resistance mead for the gjall and the ashlands and stuff..

[plush umbra]

oh absolutely, it's clearly meant to be a counterpart to bonemass, perhaps even equally useful? but falls so flat due to how the game is currently balanced

[nocturne wolf]

His buffs don’t stack with barley wine and frost resistance from capes and armor which is why it’s almost entirely useless

We need lightning enemies in deep north so he can actually do something

[foggy glacier]

Exactly!

[plush umbra]

• there's way more physical damage in the game than elemental
• you already have frost resistance on you 90% of the time so that part just doesn't matter already
• fire has a wine for resistance, none of the physical types have resistance meads (though the root harnesk is a thing now)

[pliant hatch]

The only boss where that power is useful for is Yagluth.

I think that's the biggest irony of this game.

[nocturne wolf]

And Eikthyr!

[vital umbra]

well it almost would have made sense for the mountain to have lightning enemies and stuff cuz, high up, sky, clouds, lightning, storms....ya know....and for the deep north a frozen wasteland to focus on cold enemies....but uh....whats done is done 😵

[odd helm]

Snowy mountains gotta be snowy~

[plush umbra]

i decree~

[vital umbra]

Feels as though if not for some very interesting things to be included in the deep north like frostfire or something then its just mountains+

[plush umbra]

well even if they gave mountains lightning enemies, yagluth comes after that

[vital umbra]

could still happen i thiink, even if progression reaches a cap with the deep north, the currently established progression could be fleshed out for the sake of content later on ☕

liiike uses for boss drops, every single one of them makes me sad.

[nocturne wolf]

The developers don’t plan on adding new content past 1.0

[plush umbra]

it would be also be weird because mountains are meant to introduce frost damage and use it as their progression gate - making frost res meads from the swamps in order to survive both the freezing cold and drake attacks

to add lightning into that mix so suddenly would just be odd, and steal potential from the deep north, which is imo a way more fitting biome for that damage type

[vital umbra]

I'm confused by that statement, Whats that mean, optimise for a couple updates after then walk away from the game.

[nocturne wolf]

#suggestion-discussion message

[plush umbra]

they do plan on finishing the game and moving on to something new at some point yes

[vital umbra]

I have a variety of feelings now

perhaps i will actually one day lay a finger on modded

[plush umbra]

we saw the ""roadmap"" all along with ashlands and deep north already being in game all the way since early access release 😅

[pliant hatch]

🎶 You're not the only one, having mixed emotions.... 🎶

[vital umbra]

never even thought i would consider mods

whaatever i can't say i have the right to determine what a company should do but i will feel the way i do bout it still 💤

[plush umbra]

imo all good things have an end~
overengineering things can make them bad again, could think of a few examples in valheim already...emphasis on "could", i had some in my head just a day ago but now i can't think of em

[vital umbra]

Ahh...its certainly a powerful stance to take on the games development.

[gray sand]

Was moreso meaning the other direction, but yes.
Confirms that placing BM chests under Fermenters to store meads is 👍

[vital umbra]

could be like terraria, 5 "final updates" or whatever..

🤩

[odd helm]

Good game dev is an artistic endeavour over everything else, and good art knows when to wrap things up in a nice bow and call it done~

[plush umbra]

well terraria very proudly embraces bloat in a way that makes it work.
iron gate seems to go specifically the other direction, and i can understand both takes.

[nocturne wolf]

I’d like to see what else Iron Gate can make

[gray sand]

Later tonight I will be embarking on my first foray into a new seed (something I have never done before).

[vital umbra]

suuure, thing is, i'm interested in valheim specifically, i have an almost autistic hyperfocus on genre that i like....sooo...best of luck but not to say imma be interested 🥳

[plush umbra]

-# hun do you happen to remember any of the things i ranted about while we played--

[odd helm]

-# about something that was overengineered? hecc, not particularly rn

[vital umbra]

The favourites section i have in steam is 4 games, i have 200 games overall..

aanyways praise mods then i may have treated them too harshly, thanos style...

i desire the content bloat

[odd helm]

There's still a ways to go before the game is fully finished

[nocturne wolf]

It’s not finished until I can tame a neck and bring it with me to Valhalla

[vital umbra]

there's what 1-2 minor updates in between major ones, then a buuuuunch of optimisation, then what 🧐

[vital umbra]

one major update left to boot

[plush umbra]

and besides, isn't the game as it is what you love it for?
not sure how healthy it would be to love it just for what you imagine it could be one day be

[vital umbra]

yeah, and i would probably never get sick of the feeling of getting new things in the game i already love, like with the mistlands, ashlands, and bog witch.

[keen cliff]

yes! i should probably do that if I need another chest. But i think i'm good there for now...

[vital umbra]

If its going to happen its going to happen i'm not pleading a case, just not terribly won over by the concept

and that is what it is

[odd helm]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-shrug-golden-girls-so-what-trendizisst-gif-3826072171848853172

[vital umbra]

because i like to be apart of something ongoing, always looking forward to the next thing in it...it actually just kinda motivates me in life

when that ends i wander rather lost for some time

i got into modded terraria cuz of that

[plush umbra]

gives you a chance to find the next big thing~
and with that may come unexpected changes. i might not have gotten so deeply into valheim if the most recent monster hunter title by that point didn't thoroughly disappoint me, and getting into valheim like i did sure changed my life

[vital umbra]

Its kinda a big deal for me, cuz i have not played a game like i have played valheim since half of my life ago with team fortress 2.

i don't really like games anymore otherwise

[opal torrent]

basically why I play R6

[thorn shuttle]

Will the Bog Witch be added to worlds that were made prior to the update?

[plush umbra]

yes, just need to find unexplored parts of swamps

[vital umbra]

terrarias calamity mod is the only other equivalent for me at the moment and its........SOOOOOO....SLOOOWWW...

[gray sand]

Another? I'm going to do 1 per Fermenter 😄
Health Pots and Tasty will get there own dedicated chests. The others will be mixed.

[thorn shuttle]

ah right ty!

[plush umbra]

i've been into terraria since the early days, another game that's eaten up thousands of hours, and yet i still have not even touched modding

[gray sand]

So I have at least 4.
Health, Tasty, Resistances, Utility

[vital umbra]

yeah i got dreadfully bored of the base game after 10 playthroughs

[opal torrent]

I played on iPad ages ago until my cousin deleted my world I spent ages on

[gray sand]

<- Has never played it 😄

[plush umbra]

i must be on my 20th or so

[vital umbra]

calamity mod is a cathartic experience, 170+ attempts on the final boss.

anyhow i am interpreting so far that even without any elaboration or certainty there's maybe like 3 more minor updates max, before the deep north 🧐, like ocean stuff, combat, and room for some messing around, and then it'll be over it seems.

[gray sand]

Ocean update may be post-north.

What do you mean by "combat"?

[vital umbra]

various things, i hate spears, and i hate not aiming vertically with melee weapons, and istg that was part of the road-map, thrown to the wind or not...and i thought nothing was post north..

[plush umbra]

most of the community considers it to be inherently flawed on account of not having vertical swing direction.
while i disagree, i do think the stats all over the game are worth a second look, and a third, and a fourth

[gray sand]

Vertical is never coming, Smiffe confirmed.

[nocturne wolf]

Not aiming vertically isn’t a problem, just reposition yourself

[plush umbra]

hell yea~

[gray sand]

Because it's too easy to get on a rock or something where nothing can touch you while you smack everything.

[vital umbra]

reposition yourself vertically into the air with the shitty ass fucking spears in this game 🤣

[nocturne wolf]

Spears really aren’t that bad

[plush umbra]

if you're on a slope, you can almost always either go up or down to be on the same height as your enemy, or move away from the slope entirely to lead them to even ground

[vital umbra]

attempt to move away, or just be in the mistlands and die most of the time.

[vital umbra]

then gives mobs vertical aiming too 👽

[gray sand]

No.

[vital umbra]

also various creatures can just destroy everything like morgen

[gray sand]

Also wouldn't matter because your melee can outrange their melee.

[vital umbra]

make it not so 👽

[nocturne wolf]

Why does it need to change though?

[gray sand]

Go make your own game 🤷‍♂️

[vital umbra]

bruh 😴

yeah you're right fuck this game i'll just go do my own thing 🗿

[glacial sedge]

imagine valheim

[vital umbra]

did the little ding when you get bonus yields get removed???

[ornate venture]

I've been hearing dings, today.

[vital umbra]

is it part of "effects" in the audio

[plush umbra]

raspberries, blueberries and cloudberries for some reason don't play the sound

that bug hasn't been fixed yet (it was in since PTB build 1)

[ornate venture]

Troll is deceptively fast. I need an option to shorten their legs.

[vital umbra]

I will never recover from this tragedy

[ornate venture]

I heard it with mushrooms. That must be why I heard it.

[plush umbra]

mushrooms do play it yea

[nocturne wolf]

Use bronze atgeir secondary to slice their legs

Or a better polearm if you’ve progressed further

[ornate venture]

Does the thick fog rolling in make the Black Forest's mobs wander further out at the same time? I'm wondering if that is why the small army walked out earlier for me.

[plush umbra]

no
i'm gonna make a wild guess and ask if you were chopping wood or mining something, because those two actions make a lot of noise

[nocturne wolf]

Fog doesn’t affect enemy behaviour

[ornate venture]

Makes me curious then. They slow-walked out from BF into the Meadows. Not running or anything. It was the entire forest's edge. Similar to armies emerging in movies.

[vital umbra]

it sure affects my behaviour because i hate when it invades my bedroom 👹

[plush umbra]

that sounds like enemies investigating a sound

[ornate venture]

Hmm. I did do a single chop, but I'd been a ways inside before that with zero enemies there. Maybe they spawned when I walked out. Cuz the tree was on the outer edge.

[ornate venture]

It was my first troll sighting. Then I saw the other 10+ greys. 😱

[plush umbra]

(it makes 100 meters of noise to be exact)

[nocturne wolf]

I often chop a tree once then crouch to check if enemies are nearby.

[ornate venture]

This person has more wrinkles on their brain than I.

[plush umbra]

i also do it if i'm hunting for specific enemies like trolls

[ornate venture]

Oh. Just realized I wasn't in the help channel this entire time. Sorry. Thank y'all for all the help, though!

[plush umbra]

oh no worries, it's valheim-chatty enough

[vital umbra]

random curiosity what sorta build do you go for in the game, combat-wise 🧐

[gray sand]

Her name is Winter, so obviously she is a Frost Mage 😏

[plush umbra]

originally i was all heavy armor...i mean granted that was back when troll armor was the last light set.
then i sloowly transitioned to being all light armor sets.
i still made wolf armor for a long time anyway because it's just so cheap, but this run i'm not making it i think. currently switching between a mix of root and fenris.
don't get to make use of the set bonus because i'm NOT taking my witch hat off

[plush umbra]

funnily enough i've still not touched magic, but i will this playthrough

[rotund dust]

Does the Drakkar have max full speed vs other boats with full wind?

[gray sand]

I found it underwhelming, but I also understand why people who enjoy such builds have much fun with them.

[amber geode]

No, it's slower than a longship.

[vital umbra]

i didn't terribly enjoy magic in the ashlands, partially because my levels were low, it was very novel when the mistlands came out and i was excited but eh....i don't really care though i have some kinda completionist ocd and just, craft every weapon and level every skill and for a little while use every armour depending on what i am using.....at the end i default to heavy armour sword and shield..

[rotund dust]

Thank you 😄 I was going to use it to fill in some of the unexplored oceans to make map prettier, but ill default back to longship

[vital umbra]

it looks cooler tho, u should use it for that

[plush umbra]

i just felt "it's my unga bunga melee viking game, i'm sticking to unga bunga melee:( "

[rotund dust]

Cant scroll out far enough...

[gray sand]

I've always enjoyed melee more.
I tried magic for the first time this last run.

I am returning to melee. 😄

[vital umbra]

It feels meta against the queen, thas bout it.

ahh i haven't tried it against fader at all

[gray sand]

I don't even feel that.
Melee vs. Queen is an absolute breeze.

[rotund dust]

Magic is noob friendly, melee is unforgiving

[vital umbra]

...that seems to have a heavily varied opinion..

[gray sand]

People who suck at rolling think melee Queen is hard.
That's the dividing line of "varied opinion."

[vital umbra]

i recall asmongolds fight taking 2 hours with sword and shield

[gray sand]

Why would you ever take a shield?

[vital umbra]

why not

[gray sand]

I asked first 🙃

[vital umbra]

I don't know why he did, I would because i fucking LOVE shields in any game that i can use them, captain america best avenger fight me.

[gray sand]

Shields great vs. all non-boss enemies.

Since parrying bosses is a waste of stamina, leave shield at home.

[vital umbra]

and i also use it against all bosses

[vocal rivet]

Still never felt the need to use one in Valheim.

[gray sand]

Then you're wasting stamina 🤷‍♂️

[vital umbra]

good

pry the shield from my cold dead hands

[rotund dust]

By the sounds of it, they'd just let you keep it and not need it, and laugh at you being dead for using shield 😄

[vital umbra]

i don't parry bosses either i just block them, its never worked against my favour, i like blocking, i don't like rolling.

[gray sand]

Melee Queen is just a matter of making sure you have your primary weapon, but then also bring Himmin Afl or Demolisher so you can 2-shot the adds.

[vital umbra]

i can roll....and i do whenever i'm using daggers, fists, magic, bows, or crossbows, every single other instance imma block that shit

[rotund dust]

No need to roll with Staff of Protection, just tank that shit 😄

[vital umbra]

Never got my skill in the ashlands nearly high enough with magic and i got sick of the running game

[keen cliff]

mage gets a huge power boost after unlocking staff of the wilds

i've done ashlands mostly mage, and it's a lot of fun for me

[vital umbra]

your name almost implies that you like that weapon

[keen cliff]

i guess it does. granted, this name is older than that

hmm... if i just melee with berserker axes, i could just leave my sword and shield at home. more inventory slots for loot!

[cosmic verge]

Stågbreaker

[shy marlin]

Question about the crafting skill leveling. If I craft 5x, does it give the same amount of xp if I were to craft 1x of something? or does it give 5 times as much xp compared to one craft?

[gray sand]

😄 we just answered that one like 10 minutes ago.

[shy marlin]

Ah no way

[gray sand]

Yes, the devs are smart enough to account for that.

[shy marlin]

Now I feel like an idiot thanks mk ty

[vital umbra]

the battleaxe is actually quite good against abominations, even level 1.

very staggering-ness

[tulip patrol]

Axes in general are super effective against Abominations. They are a tree stump after all.

[plush umbra]

Hello!
Just restarted playing Valheim again. Stopped at the 156hr mark, let’s see if I can keep it going better than my skyrim mark (I’m confident it will go further). I love this game.

[vital umbra]

hi

[plush umbra]

!!

[plush umbra]

(fun fact: it's actually the slash damage at work there, so swords are very slightly better.
like all other enemies, abominations are immune to chop damage. the only reason stone golems have a pickaxe weakness is because pickaxes would be abysmal against them without it (and they STILL aren't the best choice with that x2 weakness), meanwhile abominations don't need a chop weakness for axes to be one of the best options)

[vital umbra]

well i was hesitant to use the battleaxe period, hence my surprise, i was only using it for leveling the skill

[plush umbra]

Will Valheim ever be made into a nintendo switch port? I’m getting one for Christmas. Would make it double the umf.

Planned in getting merch next month.

[shy marlin]

Valheim Does Not Have A Planned PS5 Or Nintendo Switch Release. As of now, Iron Gate Studio has no plans to bring Valheim to the PS5 or Nintendo Switch, according to an interview Valheim developer Jonathan Smårs did on the Xbox Expansion Pass podcast.

Cross your fingers for a potential 1.0 thing? idk but no plains rn

[vital umbra]

What is it available on at the moment

[shy marlin]

Platforms: macOS, Xbox One, Linux, Xbox Series X and Series S, GeForce Now, Microsoft Windows, Mac operating systems

[vital umbra]

noone in this universe can resist how rich microsoft is huh 😔

xbox port but no playstation

[shy marlin]

it is what it is

[plush umbra]

I see. Thank you! I’ll keep fingers crossed. This game is too good, I know it’s gonna break a market at some point.

I’m a patient man.

[vital umbra]

ahh resin candles simply cannot be maintained huh

[timber creek]

Greetings everybody, I have a question, Someone wants to play valheim?, my friend and I are looking for a experience With other people , but sadly the server are empty or with locks

[vital umbra]

#1024264966712340510 prob

[timber creek]

My thanks

[little stream]

is it a mod or does the ground look always wet when you cultivate, etc...

[wise latch]

So is the only reason to enable fire spreading outside of the asslands so you can get easy coal

[livid zenith]

Also for fun

Like with burning houses

Or accidentally burning your own house

[wise latch]

I feel like the fire tries to come after structures

So any starter house just isn't safe anymore unless you make a wide chimney type thing

[vital umbra]

after all i have experienced....i cannot believe how easy bonemass was..

[rain flare]

It does

[vital umbra]

sildarflaaame

[gray sand]

Starting new world on new seed for first time ever. I am scurred.

[vital umbra]

being scared is for people that're scared

[gray sand]

I AM SCURRED

I hate that we don't have pants 😦

[vital umbra]

so this is second playthrough for you

[gray sand]

Uh... 11th.

Just first one on a new seed.

[vital umbra]

....wat....you used the same seed?

[gray sand]

I like my seed ok.

[vital umbra]

i don't even remember what my first seed looked like...

[gray sand]

Also, Farming == Foraging.
Did not see that coming.

[vital umbra]

i started 1 world that got to the mountains, 1 full playthrough, a partway playthrough with friends, a partway playthrough with a certain build, came back for hearth and home, hildirs request, mistlands, ashlands & bog witch each for full playthroughs

so i am on my sixth at the moment

whats the most days you had in a world

[plush flare]

does the broom respawn if you kill it?

[vital umbra]

think so

[languid vessel]

when my candles burn out, can i refuel them or do i have to manually reconstruct them?

[vital umbra]

gotta reconstruct them as far as i know

[nova garnet]

@plush flare it will respawn over and over again no matter how many times you kill it. I killed it for the trophy and it respawned in a few minutes.

[plush flare]

Does it respawn aggroed?

[vital umbra]

no

[vital umbra]

...i just...Found...moders summoning place, cool..

aint need no dang vegvisir

there is actually a vegvisir about like 60 meters away though so thats handy

[vital umbra]

is there a mountains feast?

i've crafted every immediately available mountains food so far..

[nova garnet]

@plush flare. No it's friendly till you hit it. Leave it alone and it is fine. But if you run in not paying attention and too fast I jumped of it and it went into mad mode lol. So just becareful with it.

@vital umbra there should be. Forgot what it is called. Try cooking wolf meat or making the wolf skewers. Might be you need to unlock that.

[vital umbra]

researched, need to defeat moder to buy an ingredient for the mountain feast..

Which like uhh....why didn't i need to defeat bonemass to make the swamp feast if so?...but whatever

[plush flare]

Lol

[nova garnet]

@vital umbra might have been 'assumed' cause she is a swamp trader???

[rain flare]

Same 😂🤭

Still playing the same seed 1000 hours in

[gray sand]

The one Winter gave me has been excellent so far.
I have not looked it up, so I am blind.

But I got x2 one-star boars that I am taming already. There is a BF quite close to spawn that actually put a dungeon in the Meadows 😄
And right next to said dungeon -- CARROT SEEDS.

I can has carrot seeds before I have even fought Eikthyr.

[vital umbra]

Istg i will never enjoy the hunt for the first drake trophy

[gray sand]

Odin enters the chat.

SWEAR TO ME.
(Christian Bale voice)

[rotund dust]

Where do we report bugs?>

If the oven is full, but you have an item that can be cooked in the oven, spam E, and you cooking levels easy

I was just spamming e, so it instantly go my food out, as i burnt the last lot, then wondered why my cooking was leveling.

[vital umbra]

TWO DRAKE TROPHIES SINCE WHEN

i think i remember that but i'm in denial....for fuck-....

[gray sand]

😂

[vital umbra]

and now i'm going to bed cuz that one just took me 30 minutes to find

[rain flare]

Sleep good bud

[tiny tiger]

Honestly one of my biggest gripes about the early game is that early Bronze Age where you need to find surtling cores

It’s either grind resources for big hammer to make it a breeze or struggle with the club and shield

[gray sand]

🤔

1. Club and Shield is a breeze.

2. Having to find Cores to make Smelter is the same as:
   Swamp- having to find a damn Turnip to upgrade the Cauldron.
   Mountain- having to get both Silver and Wolf Pelts before you can stop chugging meads.
   Plains- Finding Yagluth.
   Mistlands- Having to acquire Black Cores and then needing both Sap and Brains before you can do anything.

So...

[tiny tiger]

While not the same it’s certainly similar in the case of acting as a progression barrier I think the reason I’m dying so easily is because I’m neglecting armor now that I’ve put some thought into it

[gray sand]

Food is more important than equipment.

[tiny tiger]

The stagger mechanic isn’t the most intuitive for a new player either

[gray sand]

Take damage.
Orange bar fills.
If orange bar full, you most likely die.

🤔

[tiny tiger]

Food is more important after around swamp

[gray sand]

Food is always more important than equipment.

[tiny tiger]

Fully upgraded deer armor has 28 defence and a lvl 1 skeleton does 25 slash damage

[gray sand]

Has been the most consistent theme across the years that people run into issues at any stage, their food usually sucks, causing the issues.

[tiny tiger]

and will stagger you if you have like 60-70 health

[gray sand]

So block. Or better yet, parry.

Or just roll and avoid all damage.

[tiny tiger]

Brother I know how to play the game what im saying is this would be even more frustrating for a new player who doesn’t understand why sometimes they get staggered and sometimes they don’t

I parry and get staggered with 60-70 health

[gray sand]

We are not related.

[tiny tiger]

It’s been a pleasure discussing this with you.

[gray sand]

Skeleton with 0 blocking skill and rank 1 wood shield can be parried with 40 HP.

Which means you're either playing on harder difficulties, or you're omitting the star level of the skeleton.

[tiny tiger]

I’m guessing I’m getting hit by multiple attacks then

[gray sand]

Blocking sheet that I wrote is pinned in this channel if you need thresholds.

[rain flare]

Well, having brains is kinda essential game long sooo… 🤭

[urban marsh]

I have an old world but I dont see the location for the bog witch on the world generator site (yes I used the files not the seed), is this normal?

[nimble flicker]

lower stone golems spawns lol

[gray sand]

Plz no.

[gleaming musk]

just learnt that health matters for blocking thanks to this

[gray sand]

I need my Crystals.

[nimble flicker]

i see one every 4 minutes

[gray sand]

You are welcome. I wrote it to help people.

[nimble flicker]

its so fucking annoying when building. i killed one and one spawned legit 1 minute after

[glacial sedge]

I thought that they only spawned during snow storms which honestly would’ve been a fine spawning parameter in the first place

[gray sand]

Um.. why do people want LESS Crystal???

[nimble flicker]

i have no fucking idea but it always seems to be snowing as well as raining this playthrough

[glacial sedge]

also what is the weak point on a golem? i randomly seem to hit it when im fighting one

[nimble flicker]

i just use a pickaxe ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gray sand]

They don't have one.
Everything takes more damage when staggered.

Otherwise yeah, they are weak to Pick damage.

[glacial sedge]

forgot they had that weakness

[glacial sedge]

guess I just never knew when i staggered them

[nimble flicker]

also, speaking of mountains and golems, im building on one that goes so high in the sky you cant see the surface anymore.

my friend shot his cast fireball and it just.. vanished going down the mountain

[glacial sedge]

aren’t they used to craft like two items and a wall

[nimble flicker]

Best windows in the game

[gray sand]

☝️

[glacial sedge]

ohh the wall is the window ok

[gray sand]

And you need asstons of them to decorate properly.

[glacial sedge]

i get it then

i feel like fenrings don’t really serve a purpose

I can’t recall a single worthwhile piece of loot from them

[gray sand]

Claws are used for the standing braziers.

I was kind of disappointed that you can't use Mandibles in the Mistlands to make the wolverine claws 2.0

[tiny tiger]

Can anyone think of a more optimal weapon progression than club -> bronze atgeir + finewood bow -> iron mace -> frostner + draugr fang -> endgame weapons

[gray sand]

Club -> Iron Mace -> Blackmetal Weapon of Choice -> Mistlands

[tiny tiger]

Black metal over frostner..?

[nocturne wolf]

Frostner has low stagger and high knockback, not suitable for all playstyles

[gray sand]

I enjoy actually killing things quickly, not having them punted away from me.

Plus you get to skip the massive silver grind.

Club easily gets you all the way to Iron Mace.
Iron Mace is more than adequate for Mountains and Moder.
Then you're in Plains where Blackmetal is literally thrown at you in heaps.

[tiny tiger]

no bow in mountains tho sucks

[gray sand]

You can do Finewood -> Draugr Fang too.

[nocturne wolf]

I don’t think I’ve made a draugr fang before…

[tiny tiger]

Do you usually use the same weapons?

[gray sand]

Club -> Iron Mace is locked as "optimal"
BM of Choice is worded the way it is intentionally.

[tiny tiger]

I’m probably gonna rock the black metal atgeir this playthrough I had sword last time

[gray sand]

Atgeirs are very powerful.

[tiny tiger]

Realistically you could skip club and iron mace with bronze mace if you use trolls but not sure that would be optimal

[nocturne wolf]

Nothing -> cheat sledge seems pretty optimal to me

[old flint]

I found a starred troll from his cave, Guess all his assests were gone into that star because his chests had mostly bones and rags

[tacit crystal]

I learned to like the knockback of 1h maces and the playstyle with Frostner. Hit once, mob gets knockback and frost effect, then finish with secondary attack when mob is slow.

And the crowd control abilities are amazing for 1 handed weapon.

Those same abilities of Frostner help a lot during Ashlands too, until I get Klossen (my beloved).

[tiny tiger]

Honestly my play style with frostner was always heavy attack, them jump heavy attack

It’s just about timing that first heavy attack and making sure the terrain is suitable*

[nocturne wolf]

Mace secondary is my favourite attack as it can be used for so many things because it has a damage, knockback and stagger multiplier

[tacit crystal]

I do that too, it's quite funny 🤭

[tacit crystal]

It's super useful for various situations, like against Warriors and Lord Reto.

[nocturne wolf]

It’s great for pushing greylings and wolves off cliffs

[old flint]

I always forget about secondary attack, expect after I crafted berserker axes..

[gray sand]

Berserkir Axes is basically the pre-balance Feather Cape of the Ashlands in terms of power 😄

[nocturne wolf]

I struggle killing one 2-star charred warrior with them because of the recovery time, I can only land a single primary attack before I have to dodge, so it’s very slow.

[tiny tiger]

Man I can’t wait to get the thundering ones

[gray sand]

Once you get Thundering everything just starts getting staggered because Ling damage.

[tiny tiger]

It’s better than himminafl right?

[gray sand]

Given Charred resist Pierce, it is much better.

[tacit crystal]

In terms of damage, yes. For crowd control and stagger, secondary attack of Himminafl is great.

[tiny tiger]

I wonder what the damage meta for the north biome will be

[still birch]

Haven't tried that yet - and probably won't.
Berz-axes on lightning-blue, Crossbow on Green is my current fave.

[old flint]

its not taking the bait? what does this mean

[tiny tiger]

Are you trying to fish?

[tacit crystal]

The bait is not right for the fish that tries to catch the bait.

[tiny tiger]

I believe there’s biome specific bait for certain fish

[still birch]

Still not sure whether I should slot green or blue gems into the crossbow, the stopper from the green one doesn't seem to do a lot because the proc needs a hi-rate of quick firing.

[gray sand]

Bows are green or red.
Melee is blue or red.

[still birch]

Re. "fish won't bite" - you need the right lure for the right fish in the right biome

[tacit crystal]

My current weapon setup is Klossen (+Flametal Shield), Storming Splitnir, Primal and Thundering Berserkir Axes and Storm Ripper.

[still birch]

Splitnir ? Now there's an idea.
Berz-axes and Crossbow on blue, still running with that cheesy AoE hammer
Still, zero 1-hand/shield idea in my head - I prefer my encounters frontally with both hands on the output 🙂

[old flint]

yeah there was one bf biome fish around meadows fish thats why

I caught it 🙂

[tacit crystal]

I like Storm Splitnir, throwable Lightning weapon and great against Valkyries, Asksvin and Morgen for its fast attacks.

[old flint]

But are bigger fish /higher quality just rarer to get them to try my bait or?

[tacit crystal]

Bigger quality fish drain more stamina when reeling.

[old flint]

They dont seem to even try to get near my baits

[tacit crystal]

They sometimes take some time, no matter the quality.

[old flint]

I guess I dont know how to reel, because my 200 stamina goes down in 3seconds

[still birch]

I don't mean to spoil the overall fishing-fun, however . . "why" (other than getting the fishing hat) ?

Might be a good idea to try one of those Hildir-garbs that apparently are stamina-savers ?

[tacit crystal]

When fish struggles don't reel, it drains the stamina more rapidly. The length of the line stays the same. You can walk behind to pull the fish on shore.

[tacit crystal]

Hildir's clothes won't reduce the stamina usage for fishing.

[old flint]

Line broke?

[tacit crystal]

It breaks if you go too far from the bait

How far you try to fish?

[still birch]

THAT is a very good question - don't throw out too far, rather get close to the fish you want to land for a shorter drill (if possible)

Gewtting a big one out of the river from 200 meters downstream is certainly pissible but takes 2 hours.
Walking there and reduce the drill/reeling-in can cut this to some 120-20 minutes in real-life

[old flint]

6-7m im on a rock trying to catch this huge pike

[still birch]

Doesn't sound right.
You have eaten 3 Staqmina foods in preparation of the job ?

Pike sounds like Meadows, so you won't need full-on battle-food

[old flint]

170 stamina

I got that mf by dragging it into shore now

I got a special place for it for wasting 30minutes of my time

[still birch]

You did pay attention to the line?
If the fish fights and wants to go away, let loose.
Once it stops, reel it in.
Holding such a fish on the escape-move is going to cost you crazy stamina

[tacit crystal]

In H*ll?

Jk

[old flint]

lava seems just right place for cooking it

but no, ill hang it to my fireplace next to my bed

[still birch]

Lava needs to be refurbished for fishing.
Essentially we need a frying-pan to catch pre-cooked fishies 🙂

[old flint]

can I just use atgeir to kill fish

please tell me its possible

[azure yacht]

Yes: Serpents and bonemaws

[odd helm]

Fish aren't really alive, they can only be fished normally or caught on shores that they get trapped in

[still birch]

What about the olde Dyn-O-Mite ?
Toss a bomb into waters with fish, then paddle out and pick'em up ?

[old flint]

I love this idea

[gray sand]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
THEY ARE ZOMBIE UNDEAD FISH? 👀

[vocal rivet]

You know we're undead too, technically?

[still birch]

Dyn-O-Mite - helped me tons in Redneck Rampage 'outer games.
It annihilates hordes of aliens and should work quite the same on fishes in Ashlands.

As my ol' girlfriend Ripley once said . .
"Nuke it from orbit"

(nuked fish might produce side effects like radiation-sickness, please consult your local doctor for more information before you eat one)

[old flint]

Tuna is ocean fish?

[still birch]

Very much so, yes.

Perhaps best to find a Leviathan, don't pick-axe on the thing and start fishing from that semi land-base

[old flint]

I guess I have to waste my only serpent trophy

[still birch]

Oh, instead of hanging it into your hall of trophies, you mushed the thing into bait?

I sewnse a night or fivwe of night-sailing for another trophy coming your way

Serpent Trophy isn't exactly easy, however, you want to be seriously careful with those Golem trophies.

Friend and I hunted thos buggers for 2-3 weeks and got one trophy

[old flint]

I havent got a single golem trophy with my current, I wanna say 370d playthrough

Well I got a serpent, dragged it to shore and killed it. And 3 fulings killed me. In black forest

[rain flare]

I have 2 trophies after over 1k hours of gameplay…

[tacit crystal]

I was sailing in some destination once some weeks ago and I was encountered by total of 3 Serpents. All of them dropped Trophy. Talk about RNG sometimes lol.

[old flint]

I dont think its hard to find serpents, but killing it on shore is harder because all other enemies

[karmic ore]

can i ask what is the strongest bow in all game i want to try something like rp but i need to know which bow is the strongest bow

[old flint]

current final biome always offers strongest weapons

[tacit crystal]

Storm Fang might be the strongest bow due to the Lightning effect.

[azure yacht]

Ash fang

[craggy whale]

I have the best Moder , sadly im on cooldown in screenshots

[merry pebble]

Ash fang and Its enchanted versions, Storm fang, Root fang and Blood fang 🙂

[rain flare]

I love all storm varients of the weapons 🥰

[nimble flicker]

argue over who gets the demolisher first
crafts two with crafting skill

bog witch moment

[rain flare]

I also love the blood nidhog and the jade zerker axes/spear/bow/crossbow 🥰

[toxic night]

Is there anyone who understands computers? I have something to ask.

[tacit crystal]

Now you can call yourselves Super Smash Bros

[rain flare]

Who is Luigi and who is Mario?

[gray sand]

Green and Red linen capes.

[tacit crystal]

Finally some use for those!

[pliant hatch]

I think https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202174832729661470 would be a better place to ask that.

[rain flare]

I always use the blue linen cape if I’m wearing a wolf set

I also have a build where I use Hildir’s red tunic with eitr set for a red riding hood vide 🤭
Red riding hood with staff of angry trolls and blood sword

[tacit crystal]

They look good with Hildir's clothes, matching different colors for the drip.

Otherwise Lox Cape usually stays for me until Mistlands 👌🏻

[nimble flicker]

lox are so easy to kill with an iron atgier

until you get the blackmetal one

but i usually kill lox and make the lox cape instead of wolf after i mine my first silver in my single player worlds

[rain flare]

They really do 🥰

I love to use the caped versions of the tunics and dresses with the linen cape to match that specific colour scene (yellow tunic with blue cape for example) 🥰

Just wish we had some ORANGE colours to go with that expensive hat 😅

[tacit crystal]

Blue tunic, yellow cape, orange hat?

[rain flare]

Yeah.
That is legit my go to 🤣

But I want more ORANGE!!! 😂

[tacit crystal]

Also additional Silver Sword for maximum drip.

[rain flare]

Dual wielding?!? 👀

[tacit crystal]

I meant as additional to the drip, not two swords. 😅

You know how Silver hungry Silver Sword is. 😮‍💨

It's a symbol of wealth.

[granite halo]

yoo fellow Vikings. Where do you seek for building inspiration beside Valheimians?

[rain flare]

Valheimians building channel 🤭

[gaunt moth]

I love you

[fleet temple]

Rate my lox's name; Thorvald

[trail pelican]

10/10

[granite halo]

I would name him as I name mines -> Medium Rare, Delicious Steak, Almost Steak etc xd

[fleet temple]

Evil! xd

[granite halo]

At least they are prepared XD

[light moat]

Mmm lox burger

[granite halo]

You know, open communication and stuff, no hidden cards

[fleet temple]

I guess that's true..

On the subject of tamed animals, have they improved sailing with tamed animals? I haven't sailed with tamed animals since my playthrough when mistlands came out.

[granite halo]

Well, you can use drakkar now, more spaceious but still it's not intended

I hope after they release the game, they will focus on QoL changes, improvement of what they have. More custom ships, Imagine having few options while creating a ship, or having an additional Station (like stonecutter) but for Ships only. Vikings were sailing a lot and I know they had in most cases basic ships but adding a tent, crates for chickens or boars/loxes would be awesome.

[tacit crystal]

18 Surtling Cores from one Burial Chamber... Can't remember if I ever had that many from one.

[old flint]

I got like 12 todays aswell from one. Feels like more away they are from spawn the better the loot

[tacit crystal]

It was actually my 2nd Chamber in my new playthrough... Total of 25 from 2 Chambers.

[old flint]

You, my friend are a rich fella

[tacit crystal]

2 operational Smelters and 2 Kilns

[old flint]

Industrional pioneer

[warm sandal]

some folks have all the luck... i never found more then 11 in all my hours playing ... poor Bridgid has been finding an average of 2 - 3 (thus she is rich now and can afford the witches goods) 😄

[old flint]

My trait is always going for runs of chambers at start of my playthroughs so I can feel rich in my base

alot of coins around

[tacit crystal]

Does your Bridgid happen to build bridges? 🤭

[warm sandal]

nope...she lives on one island and if she wants to reach the mainland she sails...she is a viking not a venetian 😄

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, I just joked a bit since there are those bridge posts on subreddit as your viking's name was quite similar 😁

[warm sandal]

I take a lot of care thinking of a name i like to see for hours on screen 😄

[old flint]

Theres supposed to be fish in swamps.. all I find is leeches

[warm sandal]

go to the ocean side of the swamp they are there in the deeper water of the outskirts

obviously inland swamp no herring

[old flint]

ty

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, like said^ ocean side

[trail pelican]

ya i just got one the other day, doing that (had to go to the oceanside swamp edge), and they hard as HELL to see in the murky waters with their coloring

[old flint]

Im trying to get some fish and the hat for my bait shop, Im buiding my base and want something around the docks

berserker axes better for wood cutting than black metal axe????

[warm sandal]

hmmmm i guess my next youtube series i record when done with the one running now will be : Going bonkers on building! still debating if i want to build a base in each biome ore one big village with everything 😄

[tacit crystal]

Small outposts to every biome with portals to different locations of the same biome 👌

[upbeat cairn]

The bog witch will spawn in an old world, yes? My world is from the ashlands update and i cant find her in new swamps and the seedmap wont generate her (uploaded the world)

[merry pebble]

Yep, just keep exploring new swamps and you will find her eventualy 🙂

[upbeat cairn]

about the seedmap?

[oak rivet]

is this just available for new swamps ? or even those already explored can have a bog witch ?

[odd helm]

Only new swamps

[merry pebble]

I mean... if they werent generated completly then maybe, but new swamps are best bet

[oak rivet]

thank you 😄

[warm sandal]

if you mean the world generator by "seedmap" it should work i did upload the worldfiles today after i found the witch yesterday and it is all t here all the locations where it could have been.

[old flint]

How do I get to the swamp water? is says plains between ocean and swamp water even thought theres no plains nearby¨

its also plains fish only here

NVM

[tacit crystal]

Karve

[fallen topaz]

Can someone help me get back my loot?

[old flint]

what seems to be the problem?

[fallen topaz]

I died to a death mosquitos 3 times and i dont have enough items to get it back

[merry pebble]

Do you have some roots from abominations at home?

[old flint]

make another bow and kill the flies

[fallen topaz]

I can try but i cant do it alone

[old flint]

Bodyguard needed eh? I can try to protect you.. Do you have a portal to near your items?

[fallen topaz]

I have to swin with a boat

[cobalt canyon]

(resource rate modifier applies to these btw, 3x would've been 5 kilns + 5 smelters)

[old flint]

anglerfish is harder boss than a queen

[tacit crystal]

Nah, it's just Hard preset so resources are normal 1x 😁

[worn lake]

is ashlands the last map well get before tha game hits 1.0?

[cobalt canyon]

Deep North is the final biome

Not finished yet, but even when it is it may not be 1.0

[worn lake]

woah

what do you think wil be the theme for that biome

[keen cliff]

beach

[cobalt canyon]

yeah sure, tropics and jungle

[plush umbra]

[worn lake]

same like black forest?

[keen cliff]

like the Bahamas. You'll be going there to vacation

[cobalt canyon]

Tigers & Tarzan enemies

[plush umbra]

-# black forest's the least tropical forest in the game

[keen cliff]

you'll have pina coladas with odin

[cobalt canyon]

Despite looking the least sunny, Mistlands is probably closest to jungle rn

[old flint]

Heading to deep north for a singular fish rn. wish me luck

[warm sandal]

crossing fingers... i need to go on a woodcutting spree... i should go kill yag...but i am right now building so nice things i do not want to stop 😄

[merry pebble]

Dont stop then 😄 Yag will wait for you

[round gyro]

Hey , i am new to valheim , just done my first couple hours today and wanted to ask: what did you enjoy the most on your first play through?

[warm sandal]

the finding out all the things there are... like finding ressources finding recipes, finding new biomes new foe

[merry pebble]

Learning all the new stuff and building iirc 🤔 tho the first playthrough was a considerable time ago

[round gyro]

Same here!! , is it a normal occurrence to get killed by a falling tree?

[merry pebble]

Oh yes 😂

Its the so called "rite of passage" of Valheim XD

[round gyro]

That’s relieving, has happened 3 times so far 😭

[keen cliff]

usually people are more careful after the 1st time

[warm sandal]

has happend in the beginning for me too.. i have learned since to get out of harms way...:D rite of passage as being mentioned

[merry pebble]

Yeah 😄 it took me long time to die to a tree again afte the first death 😄

[warm sandal]

same with death from falling from your roof...anbody did it a few times until they learned to avoid such early demise

[trail pelican]

or smoke inhalation

[warm sandal]

that never happened to me 😄

[old flint]

wait till you die because afk in your own base.. and a greyling slowly punches you out

[round gyro]

Yep😂

[merry pebble]

Lets not spoil all the ways our dear Bilbo will most likely die in guys 😄

[rich ice]

Some of us...less savory characters...try to make trees fall on our friends.

[warm sandal]

but running around forgetting to eat and then bam a greydwarf horde and me with 25 hp 😄

[foggy glacier]

I didn’t die once from falling logs once this playthrough. Died from falling countless times

[old flint]

no way, a wraith killed me. I was sailing to deep north and hadnt eaten for 15mins

my karve is probably still sailing full wind

[foggy glacier]

Feasts. Just sayin

[round gyro]

Also it is every time i feel safe, a boar comes out of nowhere and starts charging me

[merry pebble]

Yep, its always that, once you feel safe something will try and get you xD

[warm sandal]

Valheim is much fun, but also pretty hard if you are new to the game... but you gonna get there... enjoy being new and discovering everything - i would love to do it again ...but alas one can not unknow stuff

[round gyro]

thanks for the talk 😃

[glacial hull]

I need some serious help regarding saves is this the right chat??

[keen cliff]

oof. dverger spiral staircases cost a lot of ygg wood

[warm sandal]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202320491377856512

[warm sandal]

yes they do... but this playthrough i am going on a ygg-woodcutting trip and get me so much i can build all the fancy stuff

[keen cliff]

it's 5 per, and i'm not even sure how many you need for 1 floor... 3 or 4 pieces ? so 15 or 20 wood?

i guess i'll go ravage the mistlands with my thundering berserker axes soon if i'm going to do this

[trail pelican]

if you find any dverger structures with em, the mats for each are 1:1 (i.e. if you find a dverger staircase in one that goes up 3 floors, well, if you break it down, that should give you enough mats to build a dverger staircase that goes 3 floors), so that's a good source too

[keen cliff]

for some reason i thought the ones in the towers don't drop ygg wood

[foggy glacier]

Same

[keen cliff]

copper yes

[foggy glacier]

It’s just regular wood comes out of dvergr structures

[trail pelican]

that would be devastatign

[keen cliff]

it's sad yep

go slow. read and pick up everything

[foggy glacier]

Pick up everything and talk to the raven. Have fun!

[merry pebble]

pick up everything you see, try to craft all the stuff you can at least once and LISTEN TO THE BIRD!!! Thats where most people fail 🙂

[trail pelican]

i assumed they would since as far as i know for the assets we can build i thought all except the ones that ALSO don't drop all matts for us (e.g. stakes) would for the pregen versions, but I suppose it could easily be something like some of the chests (smaller # of slots) in the meadows, where it's NOT actually the same asset even if identically skinned, so we actually can't build it and it actually yields other drops

[warm sandal]

it is a fantastic game 😄 and be careful and enjoy

because there is enemies you would not want to die would you 😄 (spoiler, you will but that is okay too)

that depends on your world settings.. but on play vanilla with no changes you well have a gravestone to pick everything up again 😄

i know that there are mods but i have never used them in all the over 2400h i have been playing...so i will leave that to be answered by the knowledgable

[merry pebble]

It is indeed possible, but would strongly suggest to leave it after you have done at least one vanilla playthrough 🙂

[old flint]

I have done some thinking and want to build a base to ashlands. nothing fancy, but functional. Any tips?

[warm sandal]

spawn proof the heck out of the area!

[old flint]

never done that, you mean campfires?

[warm sandal]

i would go campfire because benches can burn ... yeah loads ... to prevent spawn in close proximity to your base

else you gonna be busy in a tower defence game for a good long while 😄

[merry pebble]

If you think you have enough campfires, add more campfires 😄

[old flint]

without wooden floor, against the ground

[merry pebble]

Yep, dont worry on normal settings the fire will not spread anywhere exept in ashlands 🙂

[old flint]

and be mindful of the smoke

[warm sandal]

have a chimney...beware the smoke

kill you if you inhale to long

you have it already if your game updated .. because it is on LIVE already 😄

more things to explore 😄

[trail pelican]

lotta folks put the fire close outside the building, just gotta build some overhang/roofing over it, if you don't want rain interuppting it

[old flint]

Just arrived to deep north, where tf the fish at?

[merry pebble]

The water 😄

[trail pelican]

send pics

[warm sandal]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

uhhhhh tomorrow will be day 1000 of me learning japanese (i do some every day at least 15 min)... 😄

[old flint]

these salmons in deep north keep running (swimming?) away from me once they show up!!

[warm sandal]

i got a lot of hobbies but my most beloved hobbies are valheim and language learning 😄

[warm sandal]

I never went for the fishing hat... i could do a completionist run and record it... but i doubt it would be very much liked by the audience on youtube as all the grinding for making EVERYTHING would be probably very boring to watch...so i am gonna refrain from recording. I did try for one but after a while i forget und get back to getting it done quick as i can 😄

[merry pebble]

That will be probably better to do after we get achievements 😄

[warm sandal]

I do, but mostly i fall back to valheim for relaxation... got a way to big steam library .. .but we all know: collecting games and playing games are two different hobbies 😄

[tacit crystal]

It's quite cool, completes the end game drip well, like here: #screenshots message

[warm sandal]

yeah... i might go completionist with a new character in a new world just for the achievements on steam 😄 would love to collect them all

[merry pebble]

I plan to do the same 😄

[warm sandal]

well for now i will go on recording Cassandras Journey to valhalla with explanations for tne newbies... and after that we shall see 😄

[quiet cradle]

can y'all kick the guy saying the n word in the general chat

[merry pebble]

The what?

[old flint]

these northen salmon take 200 stamina in 2 secs

[warm sandal]

look at all icons on your workbench you will find it

[merry pebble]

When you look into workbench crafting menu there is a hammer on the side

[quiet cradle]

youre good

[trail pelican]

the final boss of fish

[old flint]

I was almost able to catch one by hand.. just couldt spam e fast enough

[warm sandal]

reminds me ... i need to go on a fishing spree to stock up on fish wraps 😄 the yag fight is still ahead of me...have been dallying with building 😄

[old flint]

HAH! got em

just a magmafish to go for the hat

[warm sandal]

go WilzerZ go! ... you rock

[old flint]

of course.. found magmafish just around my portal and im wearing fenrir armor... 4 birds killed me

[foggy glacier]

BTW, you need seven of each species to max upgrade the hat

[lyric olive]

My biggest issue with Valheim is that without using a generator for seeds you will never find some things. Like the ||fire sword|| or even know about many things altogether unless you get a 1 in 20000 chance of just coming across it.

I know they clearly took some inspiration from ark but it's a bit extreme

[warm sandal]

I did not even know the world generator existed the first 1500h i played 😄

[foggy glacier]

It’s an exploration game. I’ve got nearly 3500 hours and I’ve never used a map generator

[warm sandal]

I only use it to see if the starting island was big or small i prefer a small one as i want to sail.. if everything is on the first island and no sailing needed i do not like much.

so i just generate and see if it is small copy the seed and go for it without looking up everything 😄

later in the game you can make boats ... you have to progress some to be able to

[merry pebble]

You can sail even in meadows if you get all the right stuff 🙂 (granted you will be sailing quite slowly 😄 )

[lyric olive]

Unlucky

[lyric olive]

Fuck that man, I got a life and I don't want to spend 100% of it looking for one thing in Valheim.

[warm sandal]

i count my self lucky... i love the exploring and the finding out by myself

[lyric olive]

Especially if I don't even know I need it

[merry pebble]

Sounds like exploration games might not be for you 😉

[lyric olive]

Valheim is meant to be an exploration game, I just wish there was more hints for where to go next, rather than just saying "well good luck, there's a huge map here, have fun wasting your life"

[old flint]

getting it for decoration only.. for now 👍🏾

[warm sandal]

I got a live too and work full time and have other hobbies ...it is a matter of what you want 😄

[lyric olive]

I wouldn't even know about the mountain caves if the update didn't explitically say it was there. How are you meant to find these? They are hidden.

[warm sandal]

they are not...you just have to walk and look around to find them

[lyric olive]

I like ark survival ascended because at least you don't HAVE to find caves, you don't HAVE to do anything, but Valheim you literally have to find new biomes, bosses and equipment to progress in the game.

[merry pebble]

Where is Bilbo? We have a prime example what not listening to the bird gets you here XD

[lyric olive]

I don't remember the bird telling me to go to the plains, or to go to the ashlands, or to go anywhere else?

[warm sandal]

you do you... if you do not like the way valheim works, go play AKR instead? just saying 😄

[lyric olive]

I already completed Valheim 🙂

I used a generator for the tedious things.

I think you're crazy, how is looking for one thing fun, you must be mad

[warm sandal]

yeah well..as i said ... you do you 😄

[warm sandal]

can we please not go to insults... i never insulted you so please stay polite if you will

[lyric olive]

Where is the insult?

[merry pebble]

Now that is sad...

[vital umbra]

🫨

[warm sandal]

that one?

[lyric olive]

are you kidding me

No.

[merry pebble]

Nope 🙂 feel free to repair everything

[warm sandal]

okay... gonna go back to woodcutting..then you gonna do what you want... not worth quarreling withy you

[lyric olive]

One of the few things this game did right

[merry pebble]

Basically arguing over stuff

[vital umbra]

crossbow quarrels*

[trail pelican]

lol

[vital umbra]

😃

[trail pelican]

crossbows typically end the argument quickly

[merry pebble]

Only if your aim is good 😉

[warm sandal]

babobabaaaababoooo and then walking into lava 😄 he he he

[trail pelican]

the dverger agree

[keen cliff]

takes 5 of the dverger spiral stairs to do one 8m high floor. so 25 ygg-wood for each floor. ouch

[warm sandal]

ouch... so now i know to be collecting dilligently after i killed yag this run...thanks for doing the math

[lyric olive]

Yeah it's a big game

Common criticism, I still like it regardless

[warm sandal]

I doooo love the kaching sound when you get extra 😄

[lyric olive]

I disagree, ark ascended is far superior to ark evolved and valheim.

I mean is it surprising? You're comparing snail games to a Valheim developer no one knows

[keen cliff]

and collecting ygg-wood with ashlands gear is much easier than when you're in the mistlands at first 🙂

[tacit crystal]

Valheim is literally chills. 👍

[warm sandal]

you need to progress to make a boat you need some stuff for that .. .but you can go with a raft it is really slow though

bronze...and if you just started out you do not have the means to get it easy... just progress some and it will come

[trail pelican]

do you even need bronze?

i mean for a REAL boat, sure

[merry pebble]

You can also make a raft, but Its slow 🙂

[warm sandal]

the nails sure ...he asked for the boat 😄

[merry pebble]

He Is new to the game 😉 i bet he didn't know about raft

[trail pelican]

black forests for the tin & copper

[lyric olive]

Ascended hit 100,000 players, and is commonly hitting 18,000 consistently and evolved hits around 30,000, so yes, Valheim is far less than them. But to be honest, Ascended will never outdo evolved in players because not many people can run it.

[vital umbra]

brah, just play the game for awhile and see what happens 🫨

[trail pelican]

but if you don't have black forests then you'll need to build the raft to leave starter island for nearby ones likely will have black forests

[vital umbra]

the raven hints to things you should probably do, in the mean-time just sorta explore and fuck around with what you already got

[lyric olive]

No but it's a good metric to see which game is more popular. Currently, ark is winning very easily.

Why is it surprising? Ark is decades old, valheim is a few years old

[vital umbra]

valheim is better because i said so.

[lyric olive]

Like I said, population of a game is one metric used to determine which is more popular.

Ark is better anyway

Has more replayability and is more engaging, it's harder, it's more survival focused, it has a bigger variety of enemies, it also has way more work put into it with more updates

It's modding community is also significantly more popular

[vital umbra]

its worse because its not valheim

[trail pelican]

yea but no frostner, so...

[tacit crystal]

Reminding this is Valheim chat, there is https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202174832729661470 for generic discussions.

[warm sandal]

wood refill done... what next sail over to yag or go on a fishing spree to fill up stocks for the mists?

[lyric olive]

Meh Ark has many things valheim doesn't have in terms of weapons and things you can make.

[merry pebble]

Then go play it and go to their discord to tell everyone how awesome and great ARK Is, this Is Valheim chat if you didn't notice

[trail pelican]

but are any of those many things frostner though...?

[warm sandal]

thanks Asatru..that needed to be said 😄

[lyric olive]

Ew you play officials?

[trail pelican]

fish like for wraps? you gonna need to get the anglerfish for the fish & bread anyways soon, maybe farm lox for trophies or that, and if haven't killed yag in this run yet, he's obviously begging for re-death--a hard choice

you got your silver for your silver sword?

[daring egret]

Ark is so booty

[lyric olive]

ascended is a better game even unfinished 😂

[daring egret]

Better than valheim?? Am I missing something

[warm sandal]

i am gonna kill yag with frostner and fenris as always... my sword skills are litteraly 0 😄

[lyric olive]

Ascended has like 2 years of work left to go through, but they release updates every 3-4 weeks, enjoy your 1 and a half year wait for the north to come out 😂

[warm sandal]

nah this guy just does not realize he is in the w rong channel ... .:D

[lyric olive]

I don't play official, taming a dinosaur is like 5 minutes XD

[daring egret]

Enjoy your insufferable graphics and gameplay

[orchid estuary]

Laser beams on dinosaurs is shit tier level creativity imo. Conan is basically a more serious clone of it and it's doing terribly lately 😟

[azure yacht]

One update a year is so much better than one every month that I am so very completely sure are a broken mess (like the entirety of ark is)

[lyric olive]

Which are both better than valheim?

[vital umbra]

stfu about how "inferior" valheim is, in THE OFFICIAL SERVER FOR IT

[tacit crystal]

Even thought many people have pointed that out. 🥲

[daring egret]

Valheim is an objectively better game than both combined, in terms of effort, creativity, art, design

[trail pelican]

oh right of course, how silly of me

[warm sandal]

it is always the same for me ... so many things i would love doing and only 21 min in a day 😄 i guess i am gonna go one more day sorting my loxen out - i do have some fish wraps, lox pie and serpent stew that should suffice for the fight

[lyric olive]

Ugh don't tempt me to defend ark in it's map releases, I really don't want to but I will when comparing to Valheim's rushed nonsense, like they need open feedback on the ashlands biome. They cant even develop their own game XD

[daring egret]

This guys baiting he can't be real

[warm sandal]

lol you know... i am the gal with the spear and knife.. no sword skills until mistwalker

[trail pelican]

frostner undefeated as ever

[lyric olive]

No I use mods to add more features and functions that snail games don't want to add which is why they allow a modding community?

[daring egret]

Who TF warned me

[near furnace]

I did